The Confessionals - Portals Opening in Joshua Tree | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

A bizarre statue in Joshua Tree has gone viral, with many claiming it’s opening a real spiritual portal in the desert. In this episode, we dig into where this story came from and why Joshua Tree has repeatedly appeared in portal and gateway encounters shared on The Confessionals over the years. We examine the symbolism surrounding the statue, the idea of spiritual gateways, and the patterns that suggest certain locations act as access points to the unseen realm. The conversation expands into music, Hollywood, and live performances, exploring whether lyrics, imagery, and mass participation events are being used to open spiritual doors—intentionally or not. As the lines between art, ritual, and belief continue to blur, this episode asks a pressing question: are these portals real, and if so, who is opening them?Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

Satanic musicians opening portals to hell. The French apparently like demonic parades. And Joshua Tree portals are apparently back. Let's talk about it. Oh, boy. Is that sling? Slink. Right.

Right. Let's get this show going. Thank you. tuning into another live show. We are here live in studio. We got Derek. Derek say hi. And we got Jack. Jack say hi. Hello. We're working out some logistical kinks here, friends, but we are trying to create a good live product for you. And so we heard your your critiques. And we instead of doing a pre-show where we just chit-chat a little bit. We're just jumping right into the show today, and hopefully that appeals to

everybody. Guys, we got some things to talk about today. And it's been a wild week for us. And the portals that we're going to be talking about today actually started for us, I would say this week on Monday. Because so this week, just so people understand the layout of our schedule this week, we've been working like a ton on just a lot of recordings. We had Dr. Laura Sanger in studio. We had Vicki Joy Anderson in studio, and we recorded with them several recordings. Monday, we didn't do any recording, though. On Tuesday, we did a round-tail discussion with Vicki Joy Anderson and Dr. Laura Sanger on

spiritual warfare. Then I did a solo interview with Dr. Laura Sanger right after that. And then yesterday we did two recordings with Vicki Joy Anderson, one the one we planned on doing. And then we did another one where we actually had questions from the members for them. And we went through those questions. And so we did a members episode where Vicki Joy got to answer some questions. But this week was just like a wild week on the schedule side of things, but also Monday. You know what?

while we talk about all this stuff on the show today, let's try something different. Jack, at the end of the show, I would like to, if they're super chats, if you guys got a question, a comment that you would like to have discussed or answered on the show, drop it in a super chat,

and Jack will collect those comments and we'll go right at the end of the show. And also, Jack, let's give away five free memberships on YouTube today. Okay. So I don't know how you do that, but just schedule that. So people are watching and watching live right now. If you're watching live, Jack, how does this work?

How does the live? Like, does it randomly give people memberships? How does it work? Yeah. So it's going to be a random selection of people who have commented in the live chat. So anybody who's commented in the live chat, if you are wanting a free membership or even if you don't, it's good. It might happen to you. So sweet.

So we're giving out free, we're going to give, did I say five? Yeah. Yeah, let's make five. Let's give five free memberships away to anybody commenting in the live stream today. So may the luck be with you, you know? We have no control over who gets the free membership. Apparently, it's random, but it's the giving season, right, Derek? It's awesome, man, yeah. It's funny is that Derek is such a giving person.

And sometimes I'm like, Derek, you're giving way too much of our stuff. No, it's good. It's good. So on Monday, we had Laura come in a day early, and we wanted to learn about spiritual mapping. She does spiritual mapping, and that was the solo interview I did with her, was all about spiritual mapping. And we got a chance to put that into practice on Monday. So we went to three, well, we went to two different locations. They went to a third one.

we went to two locations in East Tennessee, and we learned part of the process, which was called prayer reconnaissance. And what did you think about that? Yeah, I mean, defining terms for people, so they don't freak out about what we're talking about. But, yeah, we were just trying to assess what the spiritual darkness, like realm is laying over in certain areas. And so we actually walked downtown Marival, and we were just being sensitive to what the Holy Spirit, was guiding on our hearts. Yeah. And yeah, we had some really interesting things come up.

And that's the thing. Like you're talking about like spiritual overlaying. So veils are, the veil between this world and the next can get thin at different geographical locations. And when they're real thin, portals can tend to open up. And it's interesting because there were, I don't want to get into great detail, but there were geographical markers. Not geographical.

Like there were physical markers at a very specific spot that she said she sees pop up everywhere. Like it's just, what should you call it? It was it something punk. Circle punk? Circle punk or circumpunk. Circum punk. That's what it was. Circum punk.

And it sounds really metal. You know? Like every time I hear the word, I'm just like in my head and I hear the electric guitar going, but she says they pop up everywhere where she's going and doing prayer reconnaissance and just taking the fight to the enemy. And so we've established on the show there is definitely a thing happening in East Tennessee. I would say not a portal, but many portals. And we can go down that road some other time of how I personally view portals.

think that some are fixed geographically, and I do believe that East Tennessee has fixed geographical portals, but I also believe that some of them are not fixed, and they can move. And I think they probably move a lot according to the people that are accessing them and opening them at willingly or unwillingly, not knowing what they're doing. It's a complex topic, I would say. Also, I'm still trying to figure it out. So, but here in East Tennessee, we hit some spots in Knoxville, hit some spots in Marville. Well, the locals say Merville, but it's pronounced to the rest of the world, Maryville. But one of the places, like, there was a lot of weird things that happened. And I would say during, I didn't experience this, but I know you did.

And I think Jack did too. and several of the other people on her team did, where you were walking, there were people that seemingly were being, they were being used, I would say, by demonic influence. And I think one guy was barking at you or something?

Or was that somebody else? I think it was Zachariah was getting barked at. But, yeah, so we were just coming around praying. And then I think they were trying to deal drugs, you know, so. I don't think so. You don't think so? No, not at all, because where we were at is heavily trafficked with police.

I don't think it was a drug deal. Well, it was strange because I'm coming around and I'm just praying over and there's some like rock that kind of pop up like bigger stones. And I just saw them interesting. So I was just looking at them praying over them, walking slowly as I pray. And they start just yelling, 5-0-5-0! And they start like, they were barking at some of the other ones and like kind of taunting us.

Weren't they yelling at you too, Jack? I think they were yelling at you, weren't they? No, they weren't yelling at me. He was just walking close to me, and so then it ended up... Gotcha. Like, it sounded like they were yelling over towards us. It was really interesting how the amount of seemingly pushback came to the team members in different ways while you're out there.

To the world, theoretically, to the world, what they saw should have seen was just people. Because we weren't all together. We weren't marching around. anything like the walls of Jericho, you know? Like, we weren't blowing trumpets. Not this time. But, like, it was just random people seemingly walking, and the amount of interaction that people got

really kind of stirred something up in me. They're like, okay, something's happening in the spiritual right now. There's a thin veil here, and there's activity happening. And we had some pretty wild stuff. I mean, I think I uncovered some witchcraft that was happening in the area. and several of the team members came to very similar conclusions, not just with the witchcraft, with other things.

Now, I think that artists, musicians, movie stars, even directors more than the movie stars, but these people in these industries, whether they know it or not, whether they're doing it on purpose or not, can open up portals through their work, especially musicians. We talked about Skrilla a couple weeks ago and the whole 6-7 thing.

And the fact that what I was trying, and I think I did a decent job conveying to people, it's not the numbers. That's the problem. It's the person who's doing the witchcraft behind the scenes to push his product. That's the problem. Okay? And 6-7 is just the byproduct of the root of the problem. In a similar manner, when it comes to other things like art, I think it could be a

similar issue, whether they do it on purpose or not. You haven't seen the clip. It's 100% the same thing. Okay. You wait for the clip. We're going to be talking about demonic French parades, and I haven't seen the clip on purpose. Oh, we just had somebody say hello from France.

Oh. Stay in here. We got some demonic stuff for you. Well, like information, I should say. Not to mind. We don't have demonic stuff. We have the demonic information. Take that back.

It's live. You can't. Okay. Keep it going. But no, welcome to, welcome to the confessions. Thank you for joining us from France. So my wife's French. Anyways.

Part of allé, Franca. So we came across several murals around town. And there was symbolic things in at least two of them. The third one, we actually didn't take pictures from it because I know it's on the other side of town, but I know that where those murals are at are deeply, deeply satanic. And so I had a sense that there was a connection, right? So, Jack, I want you to show people just a picture of the mural next to the comic book store. If you can pull that up.

Because this mural next to the comic book store has tons of comic book heroes, and there's only one thing about this mural that is different than the rest, which, by the way, the backdrop is the Smoking Mountains. So it's anchoring to our geographical location. And then you have this one seemingly normal guy in a tuxedo riding on the back of a demon. So you have a mural with all superheroes depicted, the Smoky Mountains backdrop, So it's anchoring you to a very real thing. And just my own personal, intuitive thoughts behind the meaning of everything, even if the artist didn't mean it this way, there are influences that people are influenced by.

We cover that on the show. That's why people need deliverance. I think that what this is depicting is old, dare I say, nephalum type energy here within the superhero depiction. here, as in the Smoky Mountains, East Tennessee. And then you have this one seemingly normal guy riding the back of a demon. I don't know comic books that well. Do you guys recognize that character at all? Is that from a comic book series or anything or a show?

Not to my knowledge. No, I don't know that either. Yeah. I don't. And of course, I don't, right? But to me, it looks like we will elevate you to the level of Godhood, Nephilim, hybrid. existence on our backs. We will carry you there. And it shows this guy riding on the back of a demon. Yeah. So when we were going around and praying, that's the one spot. I felt like something was

watching me. Like I felt like, so I looked. And then that specific drawing that drew your attention as well is what really like stood out to me a lot. Yeah. When we were just praying around. So yeah, I don't think it's coincidental at all. Dr. Sanger said that it's what, like watcher spirits that they'll embody those like paintings or statues and things like that and use them to like put eyes on us. Yeah, I'll tell you what. I've spent time with Dr. Laura Sanger at Blurriecon, several years in a row now, three years, I think.

I've spent time with her on interviews. But outside of the official nature of, hey, we're vendors and we're busy here at a conference. or, hey, we're connecting remotely for an interview. Once it's done, it's done, see you later kind of thing. I haven't had that interaction with her until this week. And spending a few days with her, I got exposed to the depths of her intuition and knowledge. And I've walked away from my interactions this week with her, even more impressed by what she brings to the table when it comes to spiritual warfare

and understanding the battle at hand. It's just, it's wild. So, Jack, if you could, I want to pull that picture back up because I want people to see, now talk about demonic portals, right? I would say YouTube is a demonic portal. Well, just in general, like,

you're talking about these phones, there are portals to something, right? They're gateways into another world. and the more AI gets involved with the literal makeup of these things where these things are actually at some point these phones will not operate without AI functioning it. It won't be an option as, oh, it's a toggle switch. Turn off the AI. You can't have a phone function without AI because AI will be like the operating system.

It will be function. It will be the foundation of what you hold. And so, speaking of AI portals, show people the video of that mural coming to life that we use with, what was it, Gemini, right? Was it Gemini V-O-3? Show them what that looks like. It looks like a lilith dragon, Satan himself coming out of the mural there.

It's kind of, it's kind of creepy. It's kind of creepy. What do you, Jack, Derek shared his thoughts about that whole thing, but you were involved as well. What do you feel like you gained from that? Because, I mean, we're talking about portals today. And I think to a certain level on Monday, we, on an inner circle, discovered, I don't want to say exposed because exposed would be like I'm exposing into the world. I'm not doing that, at least yet. But we discovered there is a spiritual gateway here.

in East Tennessee. Yeah. What did I feel for? Yeah. How'd you feel about the whole experience? Well, I mean, I don't know. That specific conversation wasn't something that I really encountered, like, from the mural standpoint and everything like that.

But from the prayer reconnaissance and things that we were doing on Monday, like, it definitely opened my eyes to understanding a little bit more about where you're from or where you're living. You know, most of the time in my life, actually all the time, I've never really done much research on like history of where I came from. And doing what we did on Monday was more of like understanding, you know, how this area was created, work, you know, what was going on here. What's the history of the land? And it helped me to kind of like realize that they're, I'm not. So I am stretching. I'm being stretched.

He's being stretched. You know, like I, this is definitely not something that I would be very familiar with, but understanding that there are strongholds of things that we can't see and that we still have to combat, you know, and we do it through prayer. We do it through spiritual warfare in keeping ourselves, you know, up on scripture, being willing to examine yourself, all of those things. So I felt like it was more encouraging for me personally on, Monday to be stretched and, you know, lifted like that.

He was encouraged. How dare he? How dare he? No, I think we were all encouraged by just a deeper understanding. Now, we covered the mural. Jack, actually, I want you to queue up before we move off the mural, the last piece of art for this. There's other stuff. But show them the bull mural, because that, I haven't even spent a lot of time analyzing, but it's definitely something that is interesting. Just because I think if we looked at it closely, it would probably reveal a lot of stuff,

but which God is commonly depicted with the bull? Bail. And which God is the one that we feel like has been harassing us for the last year since episode 692, you know? And so it's like I've driven by this mural at times, never considered this idea that I got an ancient entity that's being implanted into my community and staring at me every time I drive by. And then again, V-O-3 made it come to life. Show them that video. I'm just out here playing games with AI really asking for trouble.

Like, look at that. Pretty much. But, I mean, it's crazy. Like, if you think about where AI's gone since, you know, three years ago when it first started popping up and you had Will Smith looking like, more like a painting of Da Vinci, Leonardo da Vinci. And was it? No, not Leonardo da Vinci.

Picasso? Not Picasso. Vincent. Van Gogh. Thank you. I'm just getting all messed up. Van Gogh. Like, that's what.

like Will Smith looked like eating his spaghetti in those videos. It's like a Van Gogh painting, you know? And now to see where it's gone, it's kind of crazy. But so you have portals being established, maybe even anchor points being established through hand art, you know, drawings, paintings, crafts. You know, that's why people talk about, Pastor Troy Brewer talks about he received a gift from a witch doctor

that I don't think he realized was a witch doctor at a time, but he received the gift. And by taking ownership of that, he became an anchor point for that person that later than Asher projected to his home into his room. So like there's a lot of this anchor points connected to portals. So let's now talk about the music industry and then we'll tap off with the movie industry

when we start talking Joshua Tree. but the music industry, we talked about Skrilla a few weeks ago. Now, Scrilla is, do either one of you remember the religion that he's in? I can't remember. Santeria. Santeria, that's what it was.

And he is just wide open with it, which is interesting because I'm pretty sure there's a lot of Christians in the world who aren't open about their faith as much as he is about there, right? They have a hard time admitting that they're Christian. But I

think we established the deep, dark roots of that artist particularly. And again, by his practices and what he does, he opens up portals into his life, but also the people who are listening to the music.

And it's evident according to my thought process on this, that not only have people been open to a portal into his music, but his music talked back to the people and got them chanting a ritual globally that was nonsense, means nothing to the people chanting it,

yet they're all chanting it. So there's that aspect of the music. Now, we saw this play out where. What band was it? This week? Zach Brown band. Zach Brown band. Caught you off guard.

He did. He was falling. Derek was falling asleep. I was trying to give you, I'm trying to give you opportunity to speak. And I'm like, what band was? And he's like, I don't know. Okay, I'll tell you, Zach Brown band, Derek. I was sure if you're talking about the rapper or not.

I wasn't sure if you're going to actual world. I'm trying to transition to show into the next stage. I got you. I got you. We're working out the Kings, friends. That's bringing toolback. Yeah, me. So I haven't even seen this video yet.

So I'm going to watch it with the audience. I've heard about the Zach Brown band. So before we watch it, Derek, if you could give people an idea of what they're about to see. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty wild. He has a crown, like a satanic crown while he's playing live. And then in the background, it's like a giant red door, right? The symbolism of red, a door, all that.

And they go through the keyhole to see like a boy on the bed. And all of a sudden, like, it goes into the dream realm and then becomes like hell. Wow. And then they start singing heavy as the crown. Wow. Okay. Okay. We're in for a ride, Jack. Are you ready to play this for the people? I want to see this. I am. They're crazy. Wow. Wow. Am I muted? Nope.

That's wild. Yeah. So crown of thorns there on his head. That's wild. I was just started thinking, no, we're going to get things. Yeah, that's exactly what it's not it. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hopefully he would get the hand. Whoa, whoa, stop. Stop. Stop the video. Well, I wanted to make sure we got through the context. That's wild. Yeah. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Geez, dude.

All right. So, Jack, can you go back to the video and just mute that tab or whatever to mute the video? I want to just have this playing again while we react to it. And Derek, I'm open to your very intuitive way it comes to this stuff and reading it accurately. So, I mean, as accurate as we can. But if you could just restart that video over again, Jack, so we can see it from the beginning just by refreshing the page. It should be good then. But, all right, so the red door, I mean, literally the door is a portal.

So it's a gateway from one thing to another. The door doesn't get open, but you sneak through with the keyhole. So it's going into this bedroom. You have this kid. They're playing games with the kids. To me, almost it says we're coming for your children. okay and then that kid sitting up in the bed and his eye the pupil becoming a portal itself into it's like a gateway into his own mind yeah like when i this is crazy because every night wow

this is this is wow so i was just talking to uh dr laura sang her today about my son's dreams and i was telling her how um he had a really bad dream last night and I every night I pray with the kids and I pray that the Holy Spirit protects their minds during their sleep, their dreams, protect their their spirit, their brains and guide them in their dreams. And then I also pray for the Holy Angels to surround our property to protect us physically while our guards are down. But last night I scolded my kids for just being messy. And we got to bed late, so I rushed bedtime prayer. And I skipped that part. Wow.

And I didn't skip it intentionally. It was just like a, just like, all right, let's pray. Let's go to bed. You know, I'm irritated. Yeah. And he had a bad dream last night that had a lot of significance because he has like prophetic dreams at times. And so anyways, I say all that because what this is showing, that video was showing, is the gateway into the child's brain. And it was like, if you want to take what the ending frame of the skeleton with the crown on, to me, that skeleton with the crown is what approached the red door, went through the keyhole, went to the child.

went in through his eyes, the gateway to the soul, and influenced whatever dream realm that child was then in. I know that was not a real video, but it's all implanted. See, what the enemy will do is the enemy operates behind the scenes. So whether these artists know it or not, whether the musicians know it or not, which, you know, let's be honest, in today's world, even the sports industry is selling out to Satanism. Right.

But whether the artist realizes it or literally the, artist who created the video realizes or not, it is being influenced, this whole, what you think is creativity is being influenced and being hand-gifted and wrapped to you on a platter for you then to put in front of thousands of people knowing this was going to happen and we were going to play it on the show. You know what I'm saying? It's a giant ritual. So that's my initial thought. I have never seen that video before. Yeah, later on in the video, I mean, like the screen wraps all the way around everyone, and it's literally like hell. Was this in the sphere in Vegas?

Yes. Yeah, it's the sphere in Vegas. So, I mean, like, they're totally surrounded by... In hell? In hell. Like, the whole audience. And then he's the one with the crown on the stage singing, heavy is the crown.

So he's depicting himself as Satan. Sort of. I'm the king of this realm. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I just took you to hell. And I'm the king of this realm. Welcome to my playground.

Yeah, it's 100% ritualistic. Wow. Do we, do either one of you know anything, any history of Zach Brown band? Because back in the day, like in the like 2010, 2011 area, you know, I was like, yeah, I like my chicken fries. Yeah, I mean like my chicken fried, you know, something on a Saturday night, you know, like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I, I like, I, I like, I, I, I like, I, I, I always thought that Zach Brown. band was like, you know, just a good old, good old band. Do you think they were always like this? Or do they sell out or do they even realize they're selling out? Bro, I have no clue because I don't, this makes no sense to me from the perspective of knowing them for chicken fried. That's all I know is like chicken fried. Yeah, I like my chicken fried. Some of the other songs. They're so, they're like nice country. Yeah. And that is so like wildly different. Wow. I didn't even like I didn't hear the song. But

I wonder what the lyrics are for that song. Yeah, they're pretty dark. And it's actually written with Chris Cornell. He's the one that died with Chad Bennington, like the ones that were so-called suicided back when they were going to expose a lot of human trafficking. Human trafficking. Yep, yep, with Hollywood stuff. Go ahead.

No, go ahead. It's just really interesting. It's like Chris Cornell helped write this song that he's singing. So I almost wonder if he's trying to expose things through being so dramatic. that the attention's there. So hopefully people could, like, follow breadcrumbs. Yeah, but if I'm trying to expose something, you're not still going to catch me going and putting on a Satan suit.

It's very true. You know what I mean? It's very true. I think I'm not, I ain't doing that. And he's dressed like the guy that you would imagine, like they visit people at the crossroads. You know, the guy in the nice suit with the crown on, like. Wow. Wow.

Yeah, I don't know. there this is I in my mind this is pretty pretty concerning and I don't I feel like if that if that song was written was that so was a song written a long time ago and they're just singing it now yeah it's like 10 years old so the song is 10 years old as in like they've already published a song a long time ago gotcha gotcha and did they always have this kind of darkness about it I have no idea I'm not a big like fan of Zach Brown band so I was just doing some research on it but yeah it's because like Cornell died about 10 years ago. So I'll tell you what, I, I've been saying this a lot in the past week or so, but I just feel like I'm noticing a trend in my conversations and on the show. I've done more human trafficking shows on this, this calendar year than I ever have before. And it's becoming something that like there's a stirring in my gut. I don't feel like I have this defined call.

direction to pursue something, but there's like this stirring in my belly when it comes to human trafficking and fighting human trafficking, and you bringing this up. And the fact that that being a possibility, I don't necessarily balk at it. I don't necessarily agree with it. But just the idea of human trafficking being brought up again on the show is something I'm just mentally making a note of because that wasn't in our show notes. Yeah, I mean, maybe that's just the deal he made. and that's the difference between being suicided and then 10 years later being in a concert celebrating Satan. Interesting.

Interesting. You know, passing random thought that I shared with you guys yesterday and today, I'm thinking about starting a nonprofit organization that the proceeds go to literally going out and feeding homeless people and taking care of those in need, like emergency situations where, say somebody in Knoxville, they had a propane leak in their house, and the house blew up, and they need help. Like, we can have a nonprofit, like a local nonprofit that comes and helps people like that.

And I mean, there's plenty of homeless people to be helping. And so I am kicking around the idea of starting a nonprofit where we just, we have the funding to just go and just help people. And I know a couple weeks ago we were talking about how, you know, my thoughts on Christmas, I'm the Grinch and everything. I'm the Grinch because of a lot of reasons. But I want to just give back to people. And outside of the emotionally grabbing Instagram reels that I see other people doing, because that stuff gets me, I'm like, I want to do that so bad.

I want to do that so bad. Like, outside of that, all I see with Christmas is the materialism, you know? And I'm like, I want to give because I was given. You know, like, that's the whole reason for this season is because, I didn't mean to say that. I didn't mean to say that. But like, it's like, you know,

Christ came to give his life for us. And we're just about consuming and not giving. I can't give my life over to a homeless person, but I can give them warm. I can give them something. And it could be something as simple as a homeless person who is literally sleeping on the street because their tent was stolen from them.

Maybe I can't give them a house. But can I go to Walmart and buy them a tent or a heater to stay warm? You know? Or maybe even a 70, I don't know how much a hotel cost, but 70, 80 bucks for a night of just a warm night in a hotel room where they can take a shower.

Yeah. You know? Anyways, I don't want to derail on that. But like, you portaled into my, my emotional side, Derek. But it's just, man, I'm really starting to have a stirring for that. So, you know, maybe we'll talk about it off air and stuff, but maybe we can look to do something like that.

It would be awesome. Yeah, I think starting something that would be really good. So Zach Brown band's hellish. Check that box. No good. Stay away from that. How did, how did, we should like, at some point, Jack, we should get just like pre-custom, not custom, but like pre-thought-out

sound drops because one of the sound drops I would love to have is Bill Gates go, no, no, don't do that, that bad. Like, you remember when he did that during that interview? And so, like, I would love to have that for things like this, you know? Like, Zach Brown's hellish. No, no, don't do that, that bad. But, so let's talk about the Travis Scott concert. because everything that I was hearing from you guys

about this concert with Zach Brown, I brought up the Travis Scott concert. When did that happen? Like in 2020, 2020, 2021? It was around COVID, right? Yeah. 21? Like, who wants to take the story behind that?

Jack or Derek? I could take... I could shoot a shot. I could shoot it. Go for a Jack. Shoot it. Tell the people about it. So Astro World was an album

that Travis Scott came out with. I think it was 2020, early 2021, something like that. And so he, started to do his astral world tour, which was him going, obviously, like a tour would be, but he took imagery from his album cover, which was his face with his mouth open, and it's this like sculpture that was kind of like a portal, right? And he made that the entrance to his astral world tour. So when people were actually entering into the, you know, stadium or the venue outside,

they were walking through the portal, which looked like this, like that. Oh, you have the portal. Yeah, so that's what it looked like when they would walk in, because you can see behind the people there on screen. Yeah, I remember this.

Now, during the, I forget which one it was, I don't remember where the place was. I think it was in Houston, that this was the Astro World concert that is dubbed, I think, the crowd crush. Because, wow, they were, while he was doing his concert, which he never stopped, mind you, like, while people were, you know, yelling for help and everything like that, he never stopped it. He was doing

kind of like ritual things on stage. See you on the other side. See you on the other side. That's from the concert? Yes. Yes. So the background is like a mountain and then the center is a portal, which says see on the other side. There was a lot of other imagery that was going on in that portal that was in the center of the the stage there. But even for him, he on his shirt, he has a portal as well. Wow. He has, you know, in the blue there, it's a person. And then going through the portal is a demon, comes out blue, or starts blue, goes red, and comes out as a demon. But throughout the whole entire concert, the crowd just kept pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing forward. and there were people, I think there were eight people that died from that concert,

which a lot of people have claimed to be a ritual, and it would make sense based on the imagery and the situation that was going on, and the fact that he didn't stop at all throughout the entire concert to have people get help. So it was very interesting. It's something that, I mean, it's probably the worst case that we've seen of something like that, but we've seen other musicians do what felt like rituals. People said on Taylor Swift's Ares tour,

that they felt like she was having rituals in concert. Like she was invoking a spirit and having other people with crowd chants invoke a spirit. Same thing with the weekend and Beyonce. The weekend had Satan pop up on screen every place he went to. Yeah. Wow. It would flash on screen multiple times.

They're just telling you. And they're banking on the fact that people are going to be like, they're just going to be too stupid to believe it. they're too much in love with the music. It's kind of like this thought that I had this morning. People want to love what they believe more than they love truth. And I check myself on that, too. That's just, in general, I think it's a human nature thing. Like, we have a pre-bent on something. And we just, we want to believe that's true. Yeah. I mean, we're like stuck in a materialistic mindset. that, like, we're taught through school to only believe in, like, a physical world.

And then we have all these incredible spiritual, heavy things that are going on. And it's like, we have to draw the conclusion that this is extremely spiritual, right? Like, these are intentional rituals, like, the harvest festival in Las Vegas. Like, all these aspects that we had, it's like, it's continuing to, like, pile up or, like, what's your excuse? Yeah. I just start looking at it. I just remember, speaking of these concerts. and portals and stuff.

I bet you if we went and looked a video from most of these major artists, there would be symbolism of portals. I mean, I bet Isaac Wysop probably breaks these down all the time, you know? Shout out to Isaac Wysop and his... I'm blanking on his podcasting. What's it called?

Occult symbolism and pop culture. Occult symbolism and pop culture. He is probably the most well-researched individual when it comes to literally the title of his podcast, occult symbolism and pop culture. I mean, it is wild. I mean, I can't keep up with him. I can't keep up with him.

When him and I are talking, I don't know what you're talking about, bro. Like, is he scheduled to come out here next year? Yeah, late spring. Late spring? So next year, late spring, he's coming to the studio, and I'm just going to be like, go. Expect nothing from me. Right, straight through one side the other.

But, you know, speaking of these things, though, Beyonce's concert, I remember probably like last year or something, she had a concert where literally on the screen, I think it might have been the sphere again because it seems to be a really popular landing spot for, which, by the way, the sphere itself should be a huge symbolic thing

when it comes to what's going on inside. But it was a woman's legs that were spread open. And the video just zooms in between her legs. And so the portal was her female lady area. and the entire concert was being taken in there. And from there, you meet Beyonce on the other side and she's birthing into this goddess figure, which I believe it's Oshun that she worships,

the goddess that is completely, usually depicted it wearing yellowjack. Look this up, Oshun, O-S-H-U-N, I think is what it is, but often depicted in wearing yellow and surrounded by water. And if I remember correctly, I don't remember what song it was, but she had a music video where the door, this door,

you're going up these stairs and this door opens and water just comes gushing out and she comes walking out in a yellow gown. Wow. And so, like, they're telling you what this is. Am I right, Jack? Oshun? Yes, so you got that right.

Very right. I got it right. I got it right. I got it right. All right. Nailed something. Awesome. But it's just like,

they put this stuff in your face, for sure, 100%. And it's like, we just have to have the eyes to see it and the willingness to discern it. So, like, often we see things and we just gloss over there, I want to go there. That's going to make me uncomfortable. But if we have the willingness to discern the situation that we're seeing and be honest about it, it may not shift the culture as much as it shifts the culture in your heart, shifts a culture in your home.

Because I'm noticing it in my own home. Like, we're in – guys, guys, you know, everybody watching this, most people know my wife is fighting sickness, cancer. I'm actually in the middle of a transformation where I need to start changing how I even talk about it. And Dr. Laura Sanger was talking me about that. But we're going through this season outside of that at home. It's tied to that, but we're in this journey of discovery that things that I can't even talk about it on air. Like maybe one day Lindsay will give me the green light for when we get through this season and some of it is a storm.

I would love for her to come in studio and her and I rap about some stuff. But she's very introverted and she doesn't like, like, she's like, well, what are we going to talk about? I'm like, we don't do that around here. Your personal history. Let's pull it all out. Like she always wants the syllabus. And I'm like, you guys, you have access to my notes for today's show. It's literally words listed.

It's just like things that are going to trigger my mind and we go. And she's like, I need to know every word that's going to be said. I'm like, that's not how this works. That's not how this works at all. Welcome to the show. But so we talk about the Travis Scott concert and just these artists in general. Was it eight or ten people that died at Travis Scott? It was, I've seen both.

I've seen eight and I've seen ten. It seems like ten is the more consistent number. and there were like over 100 people injured at the concert. Okay, so, and I think it was you, Jack, or maybe it was a comment that I saw, but somebody was saying how he was like groaning and grunting on stage during this. Like, I'm just, I haven't looked at that video in so many years, but it just, if I take my, try to take my memory away from it, just take the information that was just told to me,

and the fact that there was this portal and the deaths, and there was, I remember seeing videos of people suggesting that there's demonic entities on the camera, like popping in and out from person to person, Like there was, this was like a demonic rave happening. And the person who's orchestrating it on stage or maybe being the vessel for it is up there grunting and groaning. And we know EJuce World said that, was it EJews World, right? Not EJews. It's Juice World.

I don't know these kids' rapper names. It's so stupid, like, Juice World. You would never catch me call myself Juice World. Coalid Man. Yeah, like, hey, you know. But anyways, he's no longer with us, so. But he died. And a lot of people attribute that to him selling a soul to saint,

which I think he openly declared he did for fame, right? I know, I know X, X, X, X, X, X, 10 Cassion did. I know X, X, X, X, X, 10 Cassion did that he said that for sure. I'm not, I mean, you might be right 100% about Juice World. I don't know, though. Okay. but we have these artists that that will say these things. And all this, all of this, what you're experiencing,

I want people to understand that we don't get excited about portals because we don't get excited about doors. That's all it is. But what's happening with the music industry, the arts that we already covered is these artists are through their rituals through what they're putting into their lyrics, what they're intentionally embedding with intent, maybe not in the lyrics itself,

but the intent embedded into the lyrics is opening portals into your home, into your children's minds, and if it goes unguarded, you will see the transformation. I'm just thinking children because I'm a dad. You will see the transformation in your children because of the lyrics.

Just like you wouldn't let your child hang out with a kid next door that tends to just somehow always have weed on him and introducing every other kid to, I don't know if we're allowed to say that word, the hornography, okay? I don't know if we're allowed to say that, hornography. But like, just like you wouldn't want your kid to be hanging out with that kid, I don't care if you like him.

I don't care if he's nice to you. He's a bad influence. It's the same thing with the music. And these artists are far more dangerous than Johnny next door, because they're literally embedding themselves through ritual portals. into your child's mind. Well, and think of it too. They're traveling across the whole nation

doing these same rituals like across the land. And it really takes me back to what we did Monday when we're actually trying to like close up the damage of like vows and things like in that fort we were at. We're trying to close off

what the enemy's trying to do and here they are just trying to open it up all over all the time. So musicians, artists, Hollywood, but also government. governments. Governments will put on mass rituals and open up portals into their own communities.

We saw the Goddard Tunnel, that whole ceremony. You know, and you guys were telling me about some parade or was it a ceremony or a parade in France? So to set the stage, it is a, like, it's called an outdoor opera. So again, it's hiding under the arts, under the, like, umbrella of arts. and so they create these like giant sculptures. They're animatronic and they're paraded around the town as like an actual opera. So, Jack, do you have that queued up? Yes.

That was a quick warm up there. You got to give them more time. You get more seconds. There's things you say like, I know we have a clip somewhere about it. I think Jack has it, but. And then you start talking. No, that's just cute. It's like, Jack, get the, you have the thing ready, right, Jack?

I'm not awards now, Jack. Go. It's all good. It's all good. Yeah. So I have it up here. Now, I paused right here at the beginning because it's everything that you'll see and that you would hear is in French. So I translated the words on the screen here at the beginning because this is basically like the introduction. Let me actually switch to me. This is basically like the introduction to this parade. This is what they would probably announce or that they're trying to announce. And this is the video from the company that put on the parade. So you actually have the translation?

On screen. Well, I have the French on screen, but I have the translation here. All right. So before you hit play, I want to know what the translation is because... Yeah, that's what I was going to do. Okay, good, because I'm seeing Lilith in here. I'm going to say, what the heck. Yeah, I figured people would see that and they get a little excited.

Really quick, though. Like, see if anyone notices the connection from the entities that we saw in Marvel to what we're going to see here, too. Really? Mm-hmm. Okay. So... So the translation says,

Astyrian, the Minotaur, having emerged from his labyrinth, has become the protector of the city of Toulouse. Ariane, Ariane, the giant spider, is the guardian of the labyrinth. Lilith, the scorpion woman, freed from the underworld, wanders from city to city in search of damned souls. Read me the Lilith part again. Okay. Lilith, the scorpion woman, freed from the underworld,

wanders from city to city in search of damned souls. Jeez. Jeez. Okay, so this parade was sponsored by which government, the French government, or was it like a local village, or do we know?

That I don't know. It's only been going on for three years, so I think a lot of... So this is a recurring thing? Yeah, it's been three years. So the actual, the footage of this has just been viral, like, recently on Instagram and stuff,

but it's actually from 2024. Correct. Lilith wasn't actually a part of the 2025 parade that they did, but it's a whole thing. And when you watch the video, they'll explain the narrative of what it's all about.

Wow. All right. Let's check it out. Let's check it out. Okay. So what I'll do is I'll do my best to read the auto-generated English translations as we go.

Okay. Wait, I want you to see the imagery. Oh, my gosh. Wow. So that's the scorpion. That's, so that would be Lilith, right? Can you go back real quick? Yes.

Just flip back a little bit. So the scorpion right there on top of the, this is, I mean, extravagant. I thought it would be like, mummerous parade. This is like sculptures on top of buildings, like an invasion of the demonic realm into this reality. Like the upside down has now portled through to France and is invading this realm. Yeah. They made the city streets like the labyrinth because the way that it, you know, will, you'll

but you can see here in the image is that they put the spider webs there and the spider was the guardian, the giant spiders, the guardian of the labyrinth. So they made the city streets like it's the labyrinth that is being guarded. Jeez, okay. Let's keep it going. Is there any music or we get dinged so you just want to? Yeah, I just want to keep it off. So we can comment throughout and I'll read the... Please comment those, so it's not dead air. So... Wow, what is that? Pause that, pause that, pause that, go back, go back. I'm sorry, I'm getting all hyper ready. We're not even getting into it. Okay. I knew you'd love it. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. So... I don't know what that specific symbol means.

It's not quite a pentagram, but I've seen it before, and it kind of reminds me of there's this band, Bring Me the Horizon. It's very similar in how their symbol is. Are you looking it up right now? Yeah. Yeah. So for those that are listening and out watching, it's just two spikes at the top or two points at the top. And it open ended at the bottom here with two what look like bones. and then a W and a V underneath.

Jeez, man. Yeah, I think that that symbol would be worth diving into, not right now, though, because we don't have the ability to do so. But keep it going. This is... The symbols get increasingly more insane, too. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Just keep it going unless I tell you to stop.

Jeez, 666 right there. Holy cow. There's a little probably, yep. geez scorpion woman lilith wow yeah so this is them setting this up right now and like you can see them you know getting rid of the spider webs in the street and trying to i mean look how many people are there it's just it's wild i mean when you have a spectacle like that geez uh it's it's so yeah pause this for second because what you're seeing here is an entire community i don't know what town village or i mean it's definitely a city i mean it's a lot of people but like this is something that it takes mass

participation in a giant ritual for demonic entities. They're literally naming Lilith. Yeah. Wow. Yep. So I rewound it a little bit just so that way people can read this on screen. I am Lilith, something I will seduce your lovers. I will reduce them to powder that I will throw to the wind.

I am the ITE first, first woman of Adam. I fear no one. neither donkey nor Satan I am Lilith the last I will remain until the end of time you will never forget me Whoa did you see that

Go back Hit play and pause it when it goes on her hand real close Look at that Yeah Pierce hand Brutal Brutal Wow

Straight up mocking Christ Yeah well here's what's crazy This is in Toulouse, France And then the upside down cross on whatever that is on top left corner. Go ahead. Yeah. So Toulouse, France is actually the origins of the ancestral lineage of Jesus in the Gnostic

beliefs. So this is where Mary Magdalene escaped Jerusalem and Israel and then went into lower France and began to birth children from Jesus, or a child from Jesus, which is where all the kings and lineage has come through. Jeez. So this is like the centerpiece of like the female deity. Wow. Wow.

that's some information we need to go over on a personal note later. That's wild. Hit play. Keep reading. Yeah. Lilith's the last hour remain and forget it. Hold on. Sorry.

Catch up, Jack. Catch up. You can do it. You can do it. Okay. I will remain until the end of time. You will never forget me. Neither in your nights nor in your dreams.

I am Lilith, the warrior. I break the wings of the wind. I believe in nothing. I devour the sun. I swallow the light. I shatter the wall of time. I am. See how they say that? I mean, recognize that.

100%. She's claiming Godhood. She's claiming to be God, the Elohim. Wow. Wow. Wow. This is, this is, wow. Yep. And then they're all focused in the town square. There's ball. There's ball. Ball and Lilith.

Wow. Just like the creatures here that we saw. Yep. Wow. Wow. Right here in town. The bull. And Lilith.

You even... Wow. Wow. And now they're going to have like this romantic intercourse almost like kind of thing going on. And you know the crazy thing is here in town, the murals aren't done by the same artist. You can tell it's different style of art. Which means it's the underlying spiritual force here that's pushing its agenda through individuals who are probably not doing it for those kind of intense. Yeah.

It's like our reality is being manipulated by dark entities, and we do it because we walk into a room and we allow them to have authority on ground that they aren't supposed to have authority. We are handing it over to them because we don't cleanse our minds. We don't cleanse our minds. We don't cleanse our families. Because we buy concert tickets and show up to these events. Shame on everybody. Come into my camp because I'm. I don't even listen to music when I'm on a long road trip. Yes.

Oh my gosh. Tell people what it's like riding with me in the truck. God save me. We're sending prayers. Oh, man. Wow. But yeah, I mean, you have Lilith and you have bail. I mean, like, it's just very obvious what we have.

Okay. Let's keep this going. Yep. So Lilith, the dark maiden, has no name, no origin. Her eyes are transparent. The color of water. Her eyes are a mirror of cold, silver moon. where I am myself where I am.

Wow. Yep. Wow. It's interesting, right? Like you say, claiming godhood, it has no origin. They're clearly trying to push that narrative. Yeah. So like, so pause for a second, just because I, so God told Moses, tell them I am sent you.

That is God. Mm-hmm. Jesus was killed because he identified himself as I am. They knew what that meant. And he knew what that meant. He knew he was claiming to be God and that that very thing was going to hang him on the cross. Yet he had the love for those who he was doing it for to continue to do it and move forward with that process. He didn't have to do this.

And so now we have another entity manifesting in front of the crowds that are accepting the definition of I am. So we went from God saying I am to the mediator, Jesus Christ saying, I am and being killed for it, to now we're in the timeline where something else is saying I am and it's being celebrated. It's just art, Tony. Wow. That's good. That's really good, Tony. That's really good, though.

Hit play. Let me see this again. Let me watch some more of this. Yeah. It's almost over. We got about a minute left, but I'm not sure how much leaves left. Remember, this is the official video from the website of the people who made these creatures. The dancers lose themselves. They fall. The palace fills with white skeletons. The circles invade the walls of the capital. Nothingness precedes it in the void. Jeez. So this is an all-day ritual. It's what it looks like. It was like, I think, like a few weeks.

They filmed in... And you said that this was actually last year's parade. Right. So, 2024. 2024. So pause this for a second. I don't have the answers for this, but... Pull me back up on screen.

We can end this video at this point. But I'd be interested to... I'm not the one to do it. I'll just be honest with you. Like, I'm not the guy for this. But somebody who's good at researching and has a mind wired for that, should research that town

and the events that followed that parade through the following year. That's smart. And then from there, you then research patterns of not just that town, but France. And if there's any correlation between the events that followed that parade in that town

versus the nation, and then you take it to all of Europe, then you take it to the entire continent, then you take it globally, and you just build it out from there to see what's the extent that this ritual, what's the amount of unleashing this ritual did? Because the ritual itself is enough, let alone the thousands of people

who participated in this ritual live in person. They were giving it faith. feeding it the energy that it needed to manifest whatever was supposed to be manifested. Somebody knows what was supposed to be manifested. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. And I mean, like, you know, the question too is like, what also came from that specific, like all those events were there, was this specifically for kids, like to, you know,

how many kids went missing and all that stuff? Was there more intent on even just a more physical level? you know, it's really, I mean, it's dark, it's clearly dark, and it's kind of wild to see that there was that much fanfare for something like that, you know? Wow. Wow. That's wild. That's absolutely wild. And, you know, like, you say you shouldn't be surprised, but it's still, it's still just, it's, it's surprising. It's shocking, you know, and, and, uh, I, I know logically it shouldn't be, but it still catches you off guard. And it still makes you just like, really? We're, we're now here in us as a society. We've, we've gone backwards that far now. Like what I just saw there, it literally felt like

we're one or two steps away from thinking it's a logical conclusion to unalive for sacrificial reasons our own offspring. Yeah. Like that's what it felt like. Like they're literally offering themselves up to Lilith and Ball. Yeah. Yep. Like, you know, that's one statistic that should be looked into. How many of deaths of an infant nature came after? And then compare it to the previous year and see if there's a spike in that. I mean, this is just, it's just amazing how they've escalated everything too, because I think for a long time, we had what the ancient, like, gateway to, like, old temples were put up in, like, New York City and all throughout the world.

you know, even at like the Rome Coliseum, they put up the archways that were like to the old temples of the gods. I mean, that was like very like hidden in comparison to what we see now. Like then it was statues, right? We had like the, the Baphimit statue that was placed, you know, at state capitals and things like that. And now we have animatronic, fire breathing, a live entities in your streets. It's wild. And I mean, and not even just, this isn't even just happening overseas. Like this is happening in our backyard. Like, you mentioned, you know, like the state capitals that we have open satanic statues being placed, you know, and it's, I don't even know how to view it from a political side. Because I, like,

I'm not that political. Like, you guys are with me, how often do we actually talk about politics here, you know? Like, it's deeper than that. It's a spiritual thing. Like, politics is downwind from what's happening in the spiritual. It's not the other way around. Politics don't dictate what happens in the spiritual. Like, what you see happening in politics, is literally the repercussions of what we're allowing to happen in the spiritual. That's right. What are we pursuing in the spiritual? So we have that happening in this country.

We have this, I'm assuming it was just this past week. We had a statue or I forget who said it, but I think you said Google was saying it's called a demon monolith. But this demon monolith, some are calling it a portal in Joshua tree. that I'm assuming popped up sometime this week. It just started hitting the airways. I saw it on another YouTuber was talking about it. It was news to me at that point.

I just saw it yesterday. But it's in Joshua Tree. And people that don't listen to this show or shows like this may not understand the significance of that. I barely understand the significance. The only reason why I even can fathom there's any significance to it being Joshua Tree is because of the things we discussed and covered on the show

through people's experiences. But Joshua Tree is a portal anchor spot. There is witchcraft, sorcery, vampires, werewolves, all happening in Joshua Tree because it is that thin of a veil. Yeah, so there's actually, they call it like the giant stone,

and it's this like seven-story giant granite boulder, and they say that that, For the ancients and Native Americans, it was so thin of the veil, that whole valley, and it's right outside of Joshua tree. So this whole area is all full of granite, and it's just like little monoliths, like natural monoliths, just draw in demonic entities. Wow. Does granite have something to do with that? Like, is there, like, courts? Like, I know people say that there's specific activity that happens when you have a lot of courts in the area.

Is there something with granite that you know of, Derek? No, not specifically, but I know that, like, a lot of people are correlated to, like magnetism and the way like energy moves through certain stones that it transfers energy differently. Well, you know what? That might be a good question for the chat. Chat. If you guys know anything about granite, if there's anything significant about granite, please drop it in the chat. Jack is live producing. So if he sees anything that he feels should be put up, he can feel free to interrupt and bring it up, Jack, if you see that. But like this, this statue that is erected, people have said that they've heard groanings from it coming as they pass by. At nighttime, they say

they see like a smoke or a mist coming off of it. It glows. And so there's a thought that I saw this article here, Daily Mail. So a mysterious, you know what I hate about these websites is how many pop-ups there are of videos and advertisements. subscribe now. Yeah. Only subscribe to the confessions. That's right. Mysterious demon monolith adorned with screaming faces and twisted bodies appears in California

desert. A mysterious, I already read that part. Standing more than nine feet tall, the black statue was spotted by several visitors in Joshua Tree National Park. Jack, can you pull the picture up of this while I talk about it? I can, yes. Do we have a picture of it? Yeah. Okay, cool. Standing more than nine feet tall, the black statue was spotted by several visitors in Joshua Tree National Park over the past few days. Witnesses claim it groans every few

minutes, glows at night, and is covered in hundreds of sculpted human corpses. Do you have, yes, thank you. That actually, I forgot I have the live feed on my phone playing. Like, I get metal. I get, like, I mean, I don't get it. I don't like, I'm not a metalhead guy. But I get the, like, Jack loves metal music. And I get, you know, oh, it's metal. But given what we know about Joshua Tree, the things that we've discussed before,

the fact that it is an anchor point for a very, very thin veil that is here, anchored to earth, and that this is being placed there, it's more than artistic metal. And as I was reading through here, drivers passing along Highway 62 also reported seeing smoke drifting off the monolith as they drove by. The eerie discovered has sparked a wave of fears and conspiracies with some speculating. It could be part of a ritual site or warning of an ominous event yet to come. So, like, we have that. But then there's, later in the article, which I'm not going to read because it just gets into, like, video game talk that I don't understand. But there's this thought that a video game company is going to be premiering a new video game.

Maybe it's a really popular one, I don't know. Like, the last popular video game that I know of was Halo. And apparently nobody plays that anymore. So, you dated yourself pretty good. I mean, it is what it is. I'm embracing it, you know? But so maybe this is, right? So maybe this is.

And I'm not even saying the video game company who made the structure and placed it in Joshua Tree even understood the significance of it, but the underlying spiritual forces that are operating around us that we make a habit of not cleansing our minds and our actions from. That is motivating

and moving the hearts of man to do things that they don't even understand why they're doing it. They just thought maybe off a highway 62. It's a good idea. The desert background would be a good landscape to put... But that's giving them as much leeway as possible. That's as much leeway as possible.

What are the odds that a multimillion, possibly billion, I don't know what company or whatever, operation just chooses a random desert that just so happens to, be Joshua Tree to put this statue of a demonic monolith portal at. So even historically, like, that location of Joshua Tree has hieroglyphics of swirls and things and people like translate that as portal realm shifting. So that's going back native.

You have the giant stone. And then you also have four other monolithics. Remember the old like black monolithic pillars that were found around the world? four of them have been found in Joshua Tree. Oh, you're talking about the metal ones. Yeah, the metal ones. Like the silver. They weren't black.

They were silver. Silver. The first one I know was found, I think, in Utah desert, wasn't it? That peered up. And what's crazy about that is, I think it was that one that there was somebody out there taking pictures with the monolith. And there was other people coming. So they actually, I think they hid or something. But they see these, I think it was four men.

walk up to the monolith and push hard on it and rock it and knock it over. And then one of the guys looked back at the guy who was maybe theoretically high. I can't remember if he's actually hiding or not, but said, I hope you got your pictures. And then they picked it up and left. And there's thoughts, was that, was that the person who put it there? Or was it, like what this guy was suggesting that observed it, he said, if I remember correctly, he suggested that he thought that it was a group of people who was like, leave no trace kind of people, because he's like, I'm like that I don't believe that we should be littering and we shouldn't be just dumping stuff like that.

And so was it somebody who was just cleaning up the desert from this trash that's attracting so much attention and was going to leave a lot of trash. Think about all the people visiting that location. And the trash that was going to be left behind just because of people visiting. So was a group of guys who said, we're going to take this out of here

so the visitors stop coming, so the trash stops coming? Or were the ones who put it there? I tend to lead towards they were just cleaning up the desert and we still don't know who actually put it there. There were copycats worldwide. There was metal shops in, I think, Germany, who made one and put it up and stuff. So there's definitely copycats. But there is, even if there

was copycats, what is the reason behind it all? That's what I'm trying to really get to the root of, is that the fact that a lot of the stuff that we experience in life that we just think is random or entertaining or, huh, wouldn't you know, there's an actual spiritual underbelly to that that's surfacing, and you're seeing the physical manifestation of whatever, but the motives behind it is deeply spiritual. And I don't even know, just give me a second here, I don't even know what the, I'm not claiming to know what the meaning of those metal modelists were.

It could have been just a video game thing. I don't know. But what I'm saying is, our actions often come from a spiritual route. You guys can attest to this office and the environment here. When I am pursuing fervently my relationship with Christ, it reflects in my attitude and it reflects on the environment that you guys work in. It's because it's the manifestation of what's happening in the spiritual. And I'm not saying I'm the best leader in the world, but here at the office,

I am the leader. And so where I go spiritually, everybody else follows, at least while they're here. And so we have to understand the deep root nature of the spiritual world, the second heaven, the operations that are happening on the other side of the veil, and how they manifest here. What were you going to say? I'm sorry. No, you're good. The monoliths are actually there to like magnify so that breach between the realms can be amplified. So like it's like almost like scientific in a way where they're going to increase the spiritual powers to thin, the veil so that I think there can be transference between the realms. So I think that's,

they're intentionally placed. I mean, there's so much history behind this area. I think it's completely intentional. And I don't think that's irrational to think. You know, as the guy leading the conversation on this right now, I'm trying to paint the best case scenario to be able to then say, even on the best case scenario, there's still a dark underbelly operating underneath man's actions. Men who are not submitted to Christ, who are not submitted to the creator, will automatically default to human nature, which is sinful, fallen, and dark. That's just the way it works. Paul himself talks about the sinful nature that he wrestles with. Because even though he met Christ on the road to Damascus, goes blind from it, still struggled and wrestled with

this sinful nature inside. How much more the man who does not submit their life there? Paul was part of the killing of the saints. He was there when Stephen was stone, the first martyr. He was there. He held the coats. He was part of the whole process. He encounters Christ and his whole life is changed, yet he struggles with the sinful nature. So how much more an unsubmitted heart in 2025? Right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, like as magnified as all the spiritual world is, too, it's like if we're not going to be under the submission of Christ, like, we can't serve two masters. Like, you're going to serve a master if you want to or not. So, yes, 100%, man. So let us talk about some things. We're talking about Joshua Tree. And just if you're watching, if you're watching,

this right now and you're like, well, I don't know what this show's history of Joshua Tree is because I'm new here. We are just going to focus in on the episode, but one episode. I've done several recordings with people who've had experiences with Joshua Tree one way or another. Also, just below Joshua Tree is, what's that military base? Just below Joshua Tree. Oh, man. I'm just drawn a blank on it now. I've talked to several soldiers who have been on, who have been on, who,

who'd been stationed there. And the one guy, he was, I'll tell this story real quick before we get into the next one, so you guys can look it up. The one guy, he was basically a Marine that was in charge of other Marines who were getting kicked out of the military. And until they were actually officially kicked out, they were like in this holding unit where it's just like they just had to exist. And there's this one guy who was off base and he asked him to take him to a house that he was

living in off base. And he shows up and he was, I forget all the details, but it's like a real cult-like environment. And then, these guys are taken to all, 29 palms. There we go.

I just saw it in the chat. I just saw in the chat. Thank you, Chad. I'm not even looking at it. I should have just asked the chat. They got it. But, and then he asked him to take him

to a party in the desert. And he described to me what the landscape of this party was. And I was able to track where he went, this guy who I'm talking to, in the desert, right? And he's like,

and I think we're doing a screen share or something. I've shown him, I was like, this sounds like where you're taking me. And he's like, yeah, that's exactly where I was.

And I'm like, that's exactly where Joshua Tree initial portal episode was from. Wow. Because I have the coordinates. I know exactly. And he didn't know how to get back there,

but he took pictures there. He says it on the recording. And so he sent me the pictures and I was able to pull from the metadata, the actual coordinates of where that picture was taken. I know exactly where this happened. And it's the same place that this other guy was telling me, he was taken to a guy, a party in a desert.

And he said it was really, really weird. And the guy said, you want to stay? And he's like, no. If he would have said yes, he could have been another James. Wow. So, Jack, if you could queue up. Let's go into the James clips. I just talked to James yesterday, by the way.

Somebody brought him up. Oh, is Vicki Joy. When she was here, she said she was listening to the portal episode, fell asleep. And she's like, that gave me some funky dreams. I was like, yeah, that makes sense. But she, so I contacted James because earlier this year, we were talking about doing an event. And we're still going to, we're still planning on doing an event. But we had a pivot because of just timeline.

And, you know, it's just, it's hard to pull off, especially when it's your first time doing it. And so I realized, though, that yesterday, I never told James we weren't doing the event. event. And James, so what you're about to see on this video, and so Jack has the audio, hopefully it's the same timestamp. I was using YouTube for your time stamp. So you might want to pull that on. Give me one second then. So what you'll see, though, on this video is just an image that we overlaid audio because James didn't want to be on video. He still will not appear on video. I will bring him into the studio to tell his story again to my face, have this long, drawn out conversation about what he experienced in Joshua Tree, but he will not come on camera.

He's in the entertainment industry, and he is worried that it will affect his career. I will tell you, though, and I'll tell the world, that when we were done recording this, this recording happened years ago. When we were done recording this, I talked to James extensively about the industry he's working in in L.A. And he was, I can't. can't tell you many times. He was like, really? Really? I'm like, yeah, bro. He just, he didn't know. Wow. And so after our conversation, it was probably about two, three months later, he left L.A., went back to the other city he was at and pursued his, the same career in that city because he didn't want to be in L.A. after this experience and what I talked to him about. So James definitely has a wild story.

We're not going to get into it. I think this is like a three-hour episode. But I want to play the parts where he's talking about portals appearing in Joshua Tree. He randomly goes to this party. He meets a guy at a bar who then brings him to this party in the desert. And the following night while he's there, craziness just breaks out. I mean, we're talking about people's faces transforming inside this tent that you'll hear about here in a second. I believe you'll hear about in this clip. But people's faces transforming. I even think he said eyes were glowing. The, the, the, the color yellow pops into my mind, which has a lot of significant ties to vampirism,

which Joshua Tree is really well known for extensively. And werewolves. There was a guy who never made his way on the show. He said he was willing to talk to me. It was through another person, and we were trying to arrange it, but he kept on getting cold feet. And as far as I know, he's scared to talk.

But he lost his family over this and I think his business because of werewolves harassing him at his own shop. Holy come. Wow. in this area. And so, like, and yes, of course, black fans were a part of this. Like, why not? He was talking about these black vans popping up when these werewolves were popping up,

which goes right into Joe Barger's story, which we'll have on here. Tuesday. Tuesday? Tuesday? Yep. Perfect. Perfect. Joe Barger, here in studio, this coming Tuesday, you're going to hear one of the most

wild dogman killings I've ever heard. But it goes right in with that because Joe talks about the, the, the people in the government coming and visiting him. And that's what this guy was mirroring. Yeah. So Josh O'Tree has a lot of deep roots here. Jack, can you hit this thing and let's hear it. Knew I was sober.

Mine is drinking a bit, but I wasn't wasted. And I walked over to where that guy, Ali had his van set up. And at this point, he was fidgeting with these lights. and I went up to him. I was like, hey, Ali, can I talk with you real quick? And then he's like, I can't talk right now. I'm really busy.

And I was like, okay. And I stood there. And as I stood there, I heard this, and this is the, like, one of the crazy, well, I don't know if it's the craziest, but this is, like, probably the craziest thing. One of the craziest things I saw. I hear this ear piercing scream

like in unison, a bunch of people like screaming at this high frequency. I turn around. I see the tent from the dance floor fly up into the air. I see people flying into the sky and I see this green portal. And I'm like looking at, this like, oh my God, like my stomach dropped. And then I looked back at Ali and I was like,

hey, man, what is going on right now? I was like, what's happening? I was like, something's not right here. And he just comes and saying, I can't talk. I can't talk. I can't talk. And then basically, I was like, okay, well, I'm seeing some very unexplainable things with my two eyes right now. So I pull out my phone and I go to try to like record this and my phone won't even unlock and it's just

glitching on me. It's it won't unlock. It's just glitching and I'm like and I can't even get it out of the home screen. Like I'm trying to get my iPhone to unlock. It's just doing something I've never seen it do. It's just like glitching. And then at that point I was like,

okay man, even if I was like drug, this doesn't make sense. I would still be able to like unlock my phone, this doesn't, this doesn't add up. So then I kind of, obviously I get freaked out. So I start, I start walking away from what I'm seeing because it's not registering in my mind is logical. I'm like, I'm a logical person. This is not logical. This can't happen. People don't fly in the sky and portals don't open up because that's just not, well, at the time, that's the, not how things work in this realm that I live in.

Like I've never seen that before. Why would that make sense? That I'm open to, you know, revisiting this episode and the fact that James firsthand, and I've had people say, oh, he was on drugs, he was slip something. I don't believe so. I don't believe so. And to be honest with you, James has. ventured down that thought.

Even on the show, he mentioned that. He's like, I forget what he says. I don't want to try to quote him. But he acknowledged the fact that, like, that's a possibility, and he didn't believe so. And the amount of activity that happened that night for him, that led him from this party in the desert to next thing, if he was on drugs,

next thing he knows he's waking up not at this location in the desert at all. How did he get there kind of thing? if he was on drugs, right? But it doesn't explain the voicemail. We don't even have that queued up here, so we don't even worry about that, Jack. But he got a voicemail talking about, or the guy who brought him out the desert,

left him a voicemail saying something like, hey, man, you just disappeared on us, just wondering where you're at and stuff. And then not actually hanging up the phone and hearing him say something to somebody else saying, like, do you think he knows? Or do you think he remembers? something like that.

That was the voicemail? That was the voicemail. Whoa. And, of course, he can't find it. So, like, that was one thing. I was like, oh, man. You know, like, because if you had the voicemail, you know, and, like, he sent me pictures and stuff.

I just can't post the pictures because it has him in it, you know? But, like, he was there. He was there. And so, um... Yeah, that's crazy. Like, to think, like, I mean, obviously, it's a wild story. and like when you hear these it can be, you know, for some people, it's especially for me when I first was listening to these things. Like it's difficult to believe, especially everything that somebody's saying.

And for him to say that he was not on drugs, like how that's possible. And then to have the, well, for him, the evidence of somebody leaving him a voicemail and you even having the metadata to be able to pull the geographic location. He was there. To specifically say he absolutely was there. Like, you're now tying in all, it's just like dark shift. It's like you've being able to pull at these threads and make these things see that they're actually real. Yeah. What he was saying, what he's, you know, experiencing and did experience was real.

Yeah. And, you know, there's another story. Never been on my show before. He reached out after we aired this. And I invited him on the show, but he never got back to us. I don't remember the guy's name, but he had, I think, another show. or something like that. But he had an experience in Joshua Tree,

and he had the receipts because of it. It was broadcast over the local news. Wow. He went missing. His mom had died, I think it was, and he just went for a hike in Joshua Tree just to kind of blow steam, and he was gone for several days.

It made the news, and they're like, local man, whatever his name was. I don't remember his name. Gone missing, and last known location, Joshua Tree, they're searching for him all over Joshua Tree, can't find him. Then all of a sudden he reappears in Joshua Tree,

dehydrated, worn out after several days, and they find him in a location that he had already been searched for. They already searched at this location. And they're like, where were you? And he's like, I was here, but not here. And what he recalls is hooded shadow figures walking up to him and talking to him in like an unknown language. This is from my recollection.

This is years ago that I heard this. But like he had this story of disappearing in Joshua Tree through, let's call it a portal. There was a realm shift that sucked him out of this reality into another one. I would call it a layered reality of maybe the second heaven, where demonic entities, but also astral projecting huge. operate, and when he said he had hooded figures walking over to him, speaking to him in unknown language he didn't understand, to me, I get a sense, and it's just because of the things that I've conned down myself, I get a sense that it was humans. I think he was actually astrally trafficked. I think he was taken into the astral against his will by other humans doing

doing astral projection and manipulation, and I don't know what they did to him or what they were planning on due to him? I don't know. But I think what he experienced, the hooded figures were humans. I think they were druids. And at some point in this episode, I'd like to get to my personal experience with it. But to bounce off that, James, later in this episode, starts talking about what I'll call his great escape. And Jack, if you have that queued up along the way, or at least start the process. I'll give you the cue. But like, he is talking about how, okay, the tents in the air, the portal opens up.

The dude, he's like, help me. He's like, I'm busy. He winds up running along RVs. And there was this ritual circle happening with people in hoods. And they looked like they had ill intent towards me. I don't remember what the interaction was, but they singled him out. And he was like, I got to get out of here. And that starts this process of a,

a great escape. Now, the guy who disappeared in Joshua Tree, he was taken. As far as I can understand the situation, he was taken into the astral. He was shifted. Okay? What you're going to hear is James leaving the shift by his own willpower. But listen to what actually got him out of the shift. he actually says words that I believe contributed to him actually being able to exit the shift and evacuate. The shift happened. I almost called this episode the Port-a-Pottie portal. I remember.

Because he said that he went to use the port-a-potty. And when he exit the porta-pottie after just peeing, he said it was noticeably different. There was a shift that happened. He said there was way more people there than when he found. first entered, which for me, Tony just projecting and reading the story, I think there was a shift that happened. And all those people didn't appear in Joshua Tree. He appeared in another part of Joshua Tree that doesn't exist on this level. And that's where all this happened. And then when he exited, he did it on his own willpower using certain words. And I'll say this and then we'll get into it.

I didn't connect the dots on this when I was talking to him. Often people get an opportunity to listen to an interview a hundred times if they want. I only get one shot. And so when somebody's talking to me, I'm taking as much as I can. And I missed this one detail, which I don't even know if I would have noticed the detail in the moment, if I would have made the connection. But he earlier in the episode says that there was a man in a mad hatter hat that gave him a B-IP bracelet.

Almost as if he was expecting him. Him and somebody else. It was a listener of the show who said, that mad hat or hat sounds a lot like what Zach King describes when he would dress up as a satanic wizard casting spells. And so I took the image of the music video from Pink, who Zach King says in the pink music video like a pill, there is a high wizard casting spells over pink in the music video.

He says that is a high wizard. So that's what Zach King said. So I took a screenshot of that, gave it to James and said, did the guy in the mad hat or hat look like this? You know what he said? He said, during the day, he didn't have the face pain on, but at night he looked just like that. Wow.

So now we have a high wizard orchestrating a supernatural event in another astral realm that James was sucked. to, taken to, similar to what the guy who disappeared in Joshua Tree experienced. Yeah, that's, I put up on screen what it looks like. That's a screenshot from the, from the music video. So that's what Zach King was talking about. That way people can see what it looks like. Yeah, that's what Zach King used to dress like. Wow. And he would, and just so people understand, Zach King was one, I think of four to six, I think it was, high wizards worldwide, who, their full-time job was to travel the world casting spells for very powerful people,

heads of government, kings, queens, rock stars, movie stars. That was the job. And so what you're seeing here with the music video with Pink is a high wizard casting spells for Pink through a ritual that's portaling to an entire world. That song was a hit. It was one of the songs that put her on the map. Before that song, if I remember correctly, she actually had pink hair. There was a shift with pink. She was from Philly, pink hair, kind of

like tomboyish, I think she even rapped. And then she shifted into this darker music. Just saying, wow. Jack, share with people what they don't know. Okay, here we go. Then I kind of get going, and one of them grabbed me, and then I like

pushed it off of me, but it was weird when I push it, it wasn't like a solid thing. It's hard to describe. I know this sounds crazy. It's just, it wasn't like, it felt physical, but it would, so weird. And they start like kind of hissing at me, like making these hissing sounds. And I'm standing there thinking to myself, like, this can't be real, this can't be real. And then I grew up with a, you know, religious background and pride.

and I was just, okay, I know what they hate in horror movies. I'm just going to do it. And I was just like, all right, because I just felt like they were just blocking me. It was like three of them and they were kind of like coming around my perimeter. And I was just like, in the name of the father, the son, the Holy Spirit. And right when I did that, they like kissed and they kind of like shot back. And then I start like running. And I probably run about 50 yards.

And then all of a sudden, it's just like I hit this force. field. And I've never felt anything like this. And then I'm just trying to, I'm trying to run and I'm running. But it's like I'm on a treadmill. I'm running, but I'm going nowhere. And then all of a sudden, I just see the ground like expand in front of me. And then I'm like, oh my God. I was like, This is, like, I, it, it, it, it, it just felt like I was in a nightmare that I couldn't get out. So I'm just, I'm just, uh, standing there. And then, uh, I'm like calling out to my dad who had, who had passed on. And I was like, dad, please help me. Like, please. Like I, because I, at that moment, like, I, I was pretty certain, like, something bad was going to happen.

Like, I, I had a feeling I was going to be saccharacter. It was crazy because in these moments, I felt that I don't even know if I was per se afraid to die. I felt like there was something worse than death, like in this moment. Like I, and then I had this weird recollection of like my whole life, like kind of flashing before my eyes. And just thinking about how I'm like I just really felt like I was a good person. and I'd never felt this before. Like, I felt like this overwhelming good in me. And not saying I'm a bad person, but, like, I just felt like this, like,

presence just come over me. And I'm just stuck and I'm trying to run and I keep on trying. And then I kind of just give up. And then I look behind me and I just see those, like, folk entities and they're coming in the distance. And I'm just like, I'm doomed. I was like, I'm doomed. I was like, there's no way out.

And then I don't know what came over me to say this, but I just started saying, I walk with Jesus. I walk with Jesus. Jesus guides me. And right when I started saying that, I start breaking through it. And it feels like I have these weights on my foot.

As I'm saying it, I'm starting to like break through. And I'm like breaking through. And then finally like I keep on saying it, Jesus guides me. I walk with Jesus. And then I like break through. and now I'm like running and like the ground seemed to like retract back into like a normal thing.

And I was like, oh my God. Like I was like they had some kind of force field or some portal going on here. I mean, at this point, I'm not even trying to rationalize what's happening. This is more so like me rationalizing it after the fact. But I'm kind of just in flight or fight mode at this point. And I know that like I can't fight these things because it's beyond. what I can do as a human being. And I get to, I get to, probably I say another about football field length away.

And I'm just like kind of out of breath and I'm just standing there and I'm starting to hear like whispers. Like something like like the best I could describe it as is like a demonic spirit. like something like like it's like swooshing by my head and I'm just hearing like talking and it's like happening on like both sides of like my ear and it would stop and I just kind of froze still you know so um that's a little taste of that episode and um you know it's like I don't know what to tell you I mean James isn't even a professing Christian as far as I know So in his dire moment of, I need to survive this, trying everything, when he starts just declaring, I forget the phrase that he used, but just declaring the name of Jesus stops the attack. Larry Raglan is a friend of mine. He was on the show not too long ago.

He's in the chat too. Well, shout out to Larry then. like he had a sleep paralysis experience. He could tell it better than I could, but I'm going to tell it for you, Larry. I'm going to tell it for you, Larry. He couldn't move. He couldn't move his mouth.

But the inner man inside, declaring the name of Jesus, inside, I can't even verbalize it with my mouth. But the intent was there of Christ, help me. Come on. Stopped the sleep paralysis experience. This episode came out. Listen, guys, I've been like this, okay?

I've just been wearing self-imposed handcuffs for years. I was in my own head. I can tell you when he was saying this, this was the habit of mine for years. I would let the person on the show connect the dots for the audience. I'm just like, I'll go ahead and say that. Yeah, go ahead and say that. and then it'll sink in for them. Those handcuffs have been taken off from me

for what, a year or two down. Like, James had this experience. And anybody who thinks that I'm just coming into my Christian faith, like, I'm here to tell you, Christ saved James. Okay, I didn't say it on the show. Him and I had a deep conversation.

This was my habit. This was my habit back in the day. I'd have a conversation with somebody, And then after the recording was over, I'd have a longer conversation with them because I didn't feel like they're, I don't want to say reprimending people, but I was always afraid that me telling somebody, hey, you know, maybe you should think about it this way, this, that, and the other, what come across is me reprimending them.

I didn't think that was for the people's entertainment. But I will just say this. I didn't say it on the show, but I'll say it now. It was literally Jesus Christ. that pulled James from being... James was plucked into this other state of existence where all this stuff happened as far as I can understand it. Sure.

And he couldn't leave on his own will because he didn't even know how he got there. But just crying out to Christ, all he did was boop. Yeah. You know? Yeah, amen, man. That's right.

So in that clip, he is talking about being chased by the cloaked figures. So he sees the cloak figures. He's being chased by the cloak figures. They hiss, all that stuff, right? Well, we have our own experience. Well, you weren't here yet, but with the cloaked figures. And this was on a member's episode. We're going to play a clip from it. Jack, what episode number was it? Six-32. What was it called? Echos of Nephilim Bloodlines. So episode 632 echoes of Nephilim Bloodlines. We had an in-studio guest here. What was happening is I think I was doing some filming with the guys for a documentary. Ward was sitting across

table over there. Joel was sitting here and our guest, Hunter, was sitting here. Now, people would recognize Hunter because the episode before this one, Hunter was on and it was like, I don't know, interdimensional dog man or something like that. He talked about having this experience where he dreamt about a dog man chasing after his family. He gets in the middle. It tears in the pieces. He wakes up with cuts on his back. Only for like a month later, he's literally in this realm walking through the woods with his son. And that very thing that he dreamt about, the left Mark on his back was standing before him and his son. Wow, man.

And so he comes out because he had more things he wanted to share. I said, dude, just come out of the studio. So he comes out to the studio. Now, he owns his own contracting company. He's a worship pastor at his church. And I would say this, as a preface, he often, in my communications with him, on a phone call, it's late at night

and he's shopping groceries or something like that because that's the time he has. He's a busy guy. So we were planning on having him come out to the studio. He comes out, he tells the stories, and quite frankly, I have zero recollection of anything he said that entire episode. Because the last thing he said

hit me, it knocked me off my feet, man. It's one of the big reasons why I view things the way I view it, and I'm so like, it was one of the turning points of my psyche. are like, you know what, gloves are coming off. I'm not protecting people from this information. I'm not going to pretend I don't know what I know. I'm just going to start talking openly. And if people don't like it, I guess I'm just, I'm out of the job.

Yeah. So I guess at this point we can play the clip. Or should I give more context? No, no, no, no. So Hunter asks me. It's in the clip. Yeah, yeah. And then we can definitely discuss it because it's absolutely wild.

So anybody, am I muted? No, you're still good. Okay, anybody, I saw somebody say, when will that episode air? All these episodes had already been aired. They're already out. 632 was a member's episode. And I don't even know, is that on YouTube, Jack? Yes.

Okay, so 632 is a member's episode. It's part of the, because we didn't always have YouTube memberships. So there's a whole archive of memberships that aren't on YouTube yet. But all these episodes are out. Episode 512 with James already out. 632 already out. These are all episodes that are already out. Okay, here we go.

Packed. Yeah. That's wild. Wow. Okay. So this is going to lead me into my last, I mean, there's a few more things, but it's not really anything big this happened. But do you remember I text you and asked you, or I text you,

I think it was back in the summer, maybe like June, July or August, And I told you how to dream about you. You remember that? I do not. So I had this, it was one of those like vision, dream, whatever you can call it. It's super real. I'm trying to think of how to ask this without. Just ask it, dude.

Well, I don't, I don't want to lead you on into an answer or something. Oh, got you, got you. Curity's sake. Okay, so the number, does that mean anything to you? We can't talk about this on the show. Oh, okay. The answer is yes. Oh, okay. Okay.

Well, long story short, I am at this place and you're there. And this one I text you about the cloak figures. You don't remember that? Just keep talking. So there's these like, it's just a house and it's kind of sitting way back from like these other houses. And there's these like cloaked looking things

that are following you. And that's like, that's all I really remember about it. It was like another time where I just woke up and I was like, God, dude, that was super real, you know? You're going, yeah, just the number, the number. Flirts that out. That's my house, bro. Breaking down crying.

That's my house. That's my house number. And my house sits back off the road. This is the first time that anybody's ever said anything to me, that they have a message for me that has actually followed. through on confirmation. And I'm not scared. I'm driven to tears right now because

this is the first time I've ever had anybody on my show who says things like God told me and I didn't have that confirmation and I live by that. If God didn't tell me first that is not a real confirmation, the number you said is my house.

That's my house number. So I want you to start this story over so I can focus in because I got real distracted there. Yeah. I'm really glad you're here right now. So, yeah, so he goes on to retell the story and talk about it in more detail. But he literally accurately describes my house details.

There's minor details off. Like he said my house number was on the house. My house number is not on the house. It was, it's on my mailbox. and, but, I mean, he even described the fact that he seen me get out of my truck. My truck was backed into the driveway. That's all I ever do. I back into the driveway. And, and later, he sent me sketches of my house and its accurate details. Mine is on the side of the house. I think he had, he had a window and not.

a door when there's actually a window in a door, something like that. And he also drew my neighbor's yard of what he could see in this dream, right? You showed them to me. I remember, yeah. What's crazy about it is when this all went down, my neighbor's house was not on Google images. It had not been updated yet. It was a new built house, and it was not on Google images. Yet he had my neighbor's house there. the way the yard was shaped, and also the fence that my neighbor put up after he built the house and moved in.

Wow. So either Hunter drove to my house to stock me and play a game in hopes that sometime he was going to be able to play a prank on me because, remember, he said it was like six or seven months before we did the interview. He had text me saying, I had a dream. So either he, this was a lot. long-drawn-out game plan, or this actually happened to him, the way he says it happened. And in the dream, he has these cloaked figures following me into my house.

So I was, like, obviously taken back by it. And I had just got done doing an interview with Pastor Dave Brian from Blatt's in California. He adopted Anton LeVay's daughter, and he came on to tell a story. Actually, he's coming out. Is he coming out too? Dave Brian? Yeah.

Next year, right? In January? February. February. Early February. So we're going to be recording with him again next year in February. But I call him because at that time, I didn't really have a roll of decks of pastors that were like cool with me. You know, like, this is actually a relatively new thing.

Yeah. You know, like most of the time doing this show, people, the pastors were like, I don't know. He says he's a Christian, but I think he's probably like. like Anton LeVay reincarnated. You know? I'm just like, I think of a Christian. But,

Dave Bryant talked with me. And so he took the phone call, and I'm telling him this story, and he stops me from finishing, and he says, those were druids. Wow. He said, those were druids.

You have druids coming after you. He identified it. And so it gave me another piece of my tool belt of understanding things and the way I've used stuff. but we too have had astral issues with druids on this end of things. Like I've always known that I'm not, like, I don't have the biggest crowd of rah-rah

cheerleading witches in my corner, right? Like, I'm not stupid. I know that there's witches that listen because we get their spells in the email. I'm not stupid because I know we have Satanist listening because they try to email saying, how about you do an episode where I get to share the counter to why Christ is actually God and Satan is, you know, the good guy? Like, no, bro. But I know we have these types of people listening.

But the amount of time I've spent on these topics, it's just, I don't know, I'm just being, I'm kind of taken back right now, just reliving that whole scenario. because, you know, it's like you remember stories and I've retold that story at times. I don't go back and watch it. And just seeing how much it affected me, like I made it kind of like a tongue in jingle, oh, I forgot I was crying and stuff.

But like seeing how much it affected me, I'm glad I saw it because it reignites the fire inside of like, dude, this is a war. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, I say it, and sometimes I say it, and I don't feel the impact of it when I'm saying it. That took me back to the moment. And I realized here, today, dude, it's a freaking war.

Don't get lax with it. I think that's what's just so crazy is, you know, listening to you for so long. In the last six months I've been here, just, like, communicating with you about things. realizing that so much of this, I think, is really like human Satanism. I say that loosely, obviously, like, they're not Satanist. You know, they like to differentiate themselves. But like that negative spiritual energy that they come at you with, and I think a lot of people's experiences, I think, are rooted demonically.

But I think so much of it is in this realm of witchcraft that is, like, fully coming into our realms personally, not just here at the office, but all the people that call in with their experiences. I think so much of it has bled over into this witchcraft realm. It's pretty wild, man. And it's hard to, like the hat man, I think we like start to see these like correlations between things where I think they're purposely differentiated in the spiritual realm because I don't think they are truly what they say, you know, or what we think they are. I think that's how they're intentionally put to be separated so we know. And then we can identify them for being druids or people in witchcraft.

So, well, I mean, honestly, dude, I'm glad both you guys are here. I don't think it's a mistake. Like, first of all, Jack is the first person I personally have ever employed. And it needed to be that way because he's blood. He can't escape me. Because I had to learn how to be a leader and a boss and things like that. And we've had some really rough go rounds at times because I'm not, often, I don't communicate what is inside here properly. And so there's confusion and I get mad when things

aren't done right. But also you, you know, like you're, you've come along and you being here is not an accident. You, you, you have a pastoral degree. You were a pastor, what, for 15 years under your dad? Yep. And so like, you're like the in-house chaplain. That's what I'm calling you. Yeah. And because here's the thing. So like, at times, there's this spiritual warfare that's happening here. You've experienced in the last six months. Oh, yeah. Several times.

There's baggage. There's, there's, you can feel it. It's heavyness. You can taste it. You can, like put your fingers through it.

It's just, it's like a slime that just floats in the air everywhere. And in those moments, a lot of times it's a weight that I'm carrying on my shoulders. And again, like before, it just kind of falls off on everybody else around me. And in those moments,

so many times you've been like, we need to pray. We need to pray. And honestly, at those times, I'm like, I don't feel like it. Go ahead. I'm not going to say no. You know? But it's like, I don't feel like it, you know?

And you lead us in prayer, and it's not an immediate release. But like, it just happened early this week, I think it was. I was miserable on Monday. Yeah. You know, like, I barely slept the night before. I was just not in a good mood. And you're like, we need to pray. We prayed.

I didn't feel great. But by the time I walked out these doors to go meet with Laura and her team, I was feeling a lot better. Yeah. You know? But if we didn't pray and wage war into spiritual in that moment, I could have walked into that hotel and started the meeting with Laura and her team to go out and do this

in a miserable mood. Sure. And just having this like this spiritual blockade between me and the Holy Spirit's voice speaking to me that day. Oh, but that's for everyone. I mean, that's so intentional of the enemy to come in and try to slow your progress. Like, that would have been devastating to your progress

that you made this week. Yeah. You know, if you had a bad attitude, you said the wrong thing, then you would eat in yourself up about it. It's like, that's how the enemy's tactics are.

They move in such subtle ways to get us to not be active, to be angry, to be frustrated, to take it out on other people. And we have to be mindful that when that's occurring, man,

that we got to pray. We just got to pray. Yeah. And I even do that on the way to school with the kids after I yell at him, I'm going to pray. No, I've been trying to get,

um, in the habit of on the way of school, just pray with them and stuff, you know, for protection. They're outside of my physical protection. And so protection spiritually, just their minds, all that stuff. But let's get into some of these super chats. And then we've got to cut this out

because my wife's texting me, I think I have to pick up my kids at some point today. So, Jack, do you have a super chat? Yeah, yeah. We'll start from the beginning here. It's up on screen there. Did you notice the major differences in the shift of,

Dark Magic and Uptick and Child Disappearance after Helene. No, I haven't. Have you guys heard anything about that? Interesting. I haven't, actually. But, I mean, that would be a, that would be a, an interesting thing to look into as well. Because, I mean, around here, I mean, we live in East Tennessee where just 30, 45 minutes from here, Newport was devastated from it. Yeah. Like, I went out there, I think, a day or two after and stuff, and the flooding was just horrific.

But around here, a lot of people think that this was. engineered and manufactured. And if it was, not that they need a storm to take kids away, but it's like a lot of evil groups and entities coming together. It's like, oh, you're going to do that. Cool, while you're doing that, I'll do this. And let's just take some kids like we did in Haiti. Because how many kids in Haiti are missing right now?

How many kids in Haiti go into human trafficking never to be seen again? Yep. It's true. Yeah, man. What's the next one? That's wild. Less heavy. Hey, Tony, how do I get a hold of your music playlist? I found the song you remixed for the intro, but can't find the one at the end of your episodes.

I like all kinds of music, but only Christian. Any recommendations? That's a loaded one. I would say, first of all, the song for the beginning of the audio shows is an instrumental that I purchased a rights to, but apparently didn't matter if I purchased a rights to it because they kept it up on YouTube, and I've heard it. for years now and other things. But

the, so that I purchased the rights to. And I mean, you found it on YouTube, so you know where to find it. As a playlist goes, we were actually just talking about that, you know, maybe making a playlist of some of the outro music. But I would say,

I would just start with this, point everybody to Joel Thomas. I mean, for years, he's made outro music for the show and super talented musician. And when he is the outro song. Just look in the description at the very bottom, it'll name the song and hyperlink where you can get it. But yeah, I mean, I would say check out Joel Thomas and all his music.

He's uber talented. Next up. So have you heard of Katie Susa? She has shown Christians how to be healed from cancer. It's deliverance from a serpent spirit. Check her out. Please see what you think. Prayers and blessings up. Well, Lady Light, I can tell you this. Have I heard of Katie Sousa? Katie Sousa was sitting where Derek was sitting last Thursday, and she prayed for Lindsay. So, yes, I have heard of Katie Sousa, and she, her episode will air is sometime next year. Yeah, pretty much. We're booked out this year. We're booked out pretty good, yeah. But, yeah, I mean, I know she was just over on deep end.

with Taylor Welch and her episode just aired yesterday, I believe. Because she came from Taylor's studio to ours. Because he's in Nashville, so he's only a three hour drive. They came out here. She recorded me. I'm telling you, it's a banger. A banger, bang, or bang. Like, it's wild. It's wild. It is so good. And

I'm going down to her studio to record with her for her show. And I told her, I was like, you're coming back up. We'll do it. We'll do an exchange. I don't care. But you got to come back. She brings the energy, man. She's awesome. Like, like, it's just, wow, what an awesome human being. And then to see the, um, the prayer, she praying, her praying for Lindsay. And, um, I can't go into great detail, but things were accomplished during the prayer. Amen. Yep. And so, uh, and I think the prayer spawned other things that are happening now this week. Think about that.

Got it's good. Anything about that. That's awesome. Yeah. Great point. Yeah. Wow. Is that it?

Yeah. No, there's one more. Then we have some members questions. Okay. So the phone is a sort of portal. Simple of the bitten apple on the back of it is, as it pertains to this, Google retail price of first Apple computer. Is there a question, though? I think it's, I think they want you to, a symbol of a bit of an apple on the back.

I mean, they're saying that the phone is a sort of portal. So, I mean, it's just, you know. I mean, I remember, I don't remember, but I remember, I remember, I remember hearing the official narrative of the bit and Apple and what it symbolizes it means. But like, come on. Like, come on, really? But I think that's what it is with all these tech companies.

I mean, people can, like, say, oh, I'm not going to get Apple because of the bit and Apple on the back and stuff. It's like, yeah, but you got Google with like 666 in their logo for how many years. You know? Yeah. You know, the Google Chrome logo itself is a 666 logo. And, I mean, that's the thing. It's not public yet, but I was talking with Vicky Joy yesterday about this stuff and how, like, you have to, you have to know your exit.

We're all on this technological highway. And it's four lanes. In the right slow lane, you got the Toyota Corolla, okay? just local mom-and-pop shops using social media because they think it's good for their business. And in the far left lane, you got the Ferraris of Google, Apple companies like that, tech companies just flying down this AI highway to destruction, baby. And you're on this highway. You have no say.

If you're going to operate in society, you're on this highway. You don't have an opportunity. Anybody tuning in right now knows this because they're on the highway watching and listening to me right now. But you have to establish an exit point. You have to establish an off-ramp. And your off-ramp might be different than my off-ramp. Maybe you find yourself in life where your job, your lifestyle, everything does not require anything with technology. And you pretty much live off-grid already.

You're probably not even listening to me right now. You found your off-ramp 10 years ago. But everybody needs to establish what their red line is, what their exit ramp is for this technological highway. and then once they establish that, actually have the gut and the willpower to when the off-ramp approaches and is here to actually take it. Because if you operate under conviction

and establish the off-ramp that you and feel God is telling you, this is the off-ramp for you. And you don't take that off-ramp. Now you're living in rebellion. And you've got to be careful with that. I don't know how I got on that, No, great. That's great. So then we have some members questions.

Says, hey guys, are you planning on uploading more of the older member episodes to YouTube? I'm hoping to hear the old demon boy story specifically. I don't want to rush you if you're busy, though. See, the grace in that question feels so, oh, it feels good. Because so many times people are just so demanding. It's like, well, now I'm not going to do it because I'm not a dog. The dog that just barks when you say bark. Yeah. But no, there is a plan to do this. It's just, it really is limited hands. I mean, like, I, how, you guys can attest it?

How many times do I just say, oh, I'll do it. And it's like, that's not the point, Tony. Like, we need to, like, you can't just keep, like, what's the point of everybody else being here? But, like, I can just say, Jack's, I mean, how many nights have you been here till, like, midnight this week? Three. Three? Yeah. So, like, just this week alone, Jack has come in.

at 8.30. Today he came in at 8 and is leaving at midnight because of the workload. And honestly, it's not too hard to take these older episodes that aren't even video and turn them into video just with the audio relayed. It's just the

amount of time, whatever that is to take, to do that, is taking away from something that has to get done now. We're severely understaffed. We need more help. We need more help. That's funny. And then one more here.

Just wants to know, when does Laura's episode drop? That's a good question. We haven't worked that schedule out. We're actually working on changing how we even operate. We're planning on hopefully in the future here having weekly episodes, maybe on a Monday morning or whatever we decide, to start game planning for the following week's episodes. So everybody's on the same page.

We know what the title's going to be. We know how we're going to roll it out, all of it. What's going? Is there a commercial? Is there a promo that we need to do for merch? and all that stuff, which by the way, Merkmerch.com,

go check it out. But, like, we haven't gotten that part of the schedule. I can tell you, I think we're scheduled through, yeah, we're scheduled through January next year, but we have an archive

of people who need to get put out. So we don't know yet, but I would imagine, Laura, probably in February. Let's just put it out there. I would say probably, probably in February. So. And Katie, too, right?

Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Like February's going to be a heater month. Yeah, I agree. Like, if everything goes as planned, according to our schedule, we're going to start off the month with the episode that we couldn't air on YouTube because we needed more time to censor parts of it that were just not YouTube front. Like, I get caught up in talking to the person across the table from me because it's no longer my problem about editing. That's Jack's problem. So when they're talking about things and they're saying things that are not YouTube front, I'm not even.

thinking about YouTube in that moment. But she said some things that we could lose our channel. Well, it definitely would be, yeah. Yeah. It'd be pretty pretty. So we need more time to dissect it. And the full unedited version will be put in two places, one for free on Rumble. So you'll be able to watch it if you're not a member, but also my members on my app,

not on YouTube. YouTube members, you've got to go to Rumble because I'm not taking a chance of of YouTube. You either have to go to Rumble or members on my app, they'll be able to access to full and edit it on the app. Is that right, Jack?

Yes. Yeah, that's a good way to do it. Cool. So is there anything else? I don't believe so. Okay. All right. Guys, listen,

this was a fun one. I feel like we accomplished everything we set out to. And, man, like, once it got rolling, it got rolling. It was rolling.

Maybe it's just me. Man, it's a good guy. I started feeling. I'm spitting right now. Tony's preaching. You know, stomping around. Well, it is where it is.

I'm Tony. I do things. For the audience, thanks for tuning in live. I saw we peaked over 1,200 people watching live. Right now, I see that we're over 1,100 watching live. Thank you so much for tuning into this live. It means the world to us.

We do plan on doing more of these lives like this. I mean, if there's a week where I have something I want to wrap about and I don't need anybody's help. I'm just going to go on where Jack's sitting, power it up, and just look at the teleprompter and rip for an hour to you guys. But sometimes I don't have that.

And sometimes it's like this, where I have things we could talk about, but I need to riff with some guys. And that's what these guys are coming in for. And I think they did a good job. I mean, let us know in the chat. Give them a thumbs up. If they did a good job,

if they didn't do a good job, don't say anything because they're very sensitive and they don't want their feelings hurt. But, guys, I appreciate you joining me here in studio and to the audience. so much for being here. And we'll be back next week, I think. What's next week? Week before Christmas. We can do next week, right? Derek? Sure. Manager Derek. Yeah. Okay. You're going to be gone the week of Christmas,

right, Jack? Maybe Friday. Okay. And Jack, you're going to be in Pennsylvania? Yeah, the week of Christmas. Week of Christmas. So I'll be solo. Oh, Christmas is on a Thursday. So maybe the day after Christmas, I'll come in and do a live by myself. A Grinch special. A Grinch special. But we're trying to do these every week, you know. I enjoy them. And now that we kind of got our feet underneath us with this year's events, we're trying to start off 2026 with the right foot and what we actually won out of our lives and the company and things like that.

So look forward to more of these. I hope you guys enjoyed this one. And until the next one, I love you. Peace. Oh, boy. Is that a sling-slings? Grace hit me like, boom. Can't miss

God with me Whole squad Gone devil try to throw shit Eye grin Cause the light too bright Walking the spotlight Who that Standing in the slang

And the truth slap Never in the way We moved dad On my name for the hit Like a du wreck I was stuck in the valley That view bad Now I'm up in the hills

With a food bag Got took all my elves ran through that Now the wind stack High like a new stack Every step with the light That's a blueprint Hope pack getting bright Cause he doing it

He the king so the crown Got a new fit And the cross hit Harder than a new clip We ain't here just the body It's a movement Every giant in the way move it. If the world when I hate, we cool with it because the love is strong.

So the tree life. Boom. Can't mess. No. I've been down in the dirt now I'm cleaned up. Blood bought brand new, never dreamed up. Every thorn out of stone trying to team up. Got 50,000 standing here feeling beamed up. I remember them nice in the struggle. Feeling way down deep by the trouble.

But he showed up strong, bro, the muzzle. Now the faith built bit like a double. We ain't here for the fame of the flesh. We just point to the king, let him flash. Living water in the cup, no cap. And the well, don't run dry. That's that facts. Now we run another pat with a show step.

Every loss is a set up for the best yet. Every giant in my face is a test bit Got swing once We're like boom boom Came in snow