The Confessionals - RELOADED | 146: A Touch of Mystery
Episode Date: September 9, 2024On Episode 146: A Touch of Mystery, we have Kevin joining The Confessionals to share the miraculous things that have happened to both himself and the people in his family. He also discusses his run-in...s with shadow people and what seems to be an entity that is frequently encountered by many other guests on our show! Sasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer
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I guess it's time
to go back in time
Are you telling me
you built a time machine
Kind of a Dolion
Time is but a stubborn illusion
I have a lot of memories
Of the past
People are time traveling within themselves
Time travel
Is possible
This was all circulating around the base
that a giant had been killed
but no one was supposed to talk about it.
Reach up underneath the door,
curl up to grab it, and then disappear.
When he came over to me,
dude, he slithered over to me.
And this giant comes out of the cave
and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing at this giant.
With a giant moves,
he's got a spear in one hand
and he's running really fast.
And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.
somebody else shoot them in the face shoot them in the face they basically decapitated feel something and i look
over and there are two small gray entities and they're literally i'm getting pulled off the bed i reach my hand
into this bush and i touch air because i know i'm seeing a monster okay i reloaded yep welcome to the show
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Now, this week we have Kevin coming on the show, and Kevin is going to share some of the miraculous things that he's experienced, but also more paranormal type of things.
We are all over to place with Kevin, so let's get to it right after the trailer for this coming week's member episode.
You know, dreams started happening.
I started having really vivid dreams.
And all of that, it was starting to, and I think this thing or demon or I don't know what it was.
It just totally, like, latched on to me.
I lost a lot of sleep, this girl over there.
She was over the house, and I said,
hey, I'm going to go sitting on my bed.
And the door was open to my room, and she was on her phone.
And she said in her peripherals, she saw a little girl.
She saw the whole make of the short,
she said she had to have been, like, four foot something, you know.
She can see the long black hair.
And she thought it was one of my little sisters.
So she said, you know, hi, I'm so on some of her friends, you know, how are you?
And she said she looked up and there was nobody there.
She didn't think of anything strange.
She just figured she scared her and she ran back upstairs.
So I come downstairs and she said, hey, I met one of your little sisters, I think, and I was like, you did.
She was like, yeah.
She was like, she was just down here.
She was like, well, one of them was.
And I was like, no, they're at my grandparents' house.
and she kind of just looked at me and she got really scared and she's like no I saw a little girl
in the basement down here she was standing in your doorway um no so I started telling everything
that's been happening to me and she never came over it okay today we have Kevin coming on the show
and Kevin has some paranormal experiences uh miracle experiences uh and it's just going to be a fun time
talking with Kevin about some of the things that he's experienced and what his mom has experienced
but Kevin, how you doing, man?
Not too bad, Jim. Not too bad.
I'm good, man. I'm good.
So we just got chatting here a little bit and stuff and you share with me some of the things
that you wanted to talk about tonight, including what you experienced that you said was a miracle.
And I listened to you share that story to me.
And it does sound like a miracle to me.
So I'm excited to get you going on that.
But before we get into that stuff, I want to get you going on some of these shadow figures that you
had seen.
I believe it was when you were a kid growing up.
I think you said the first time was when you were sitting in the kitchen.
So what happened there?
So basically what happened was from where, basically my dad wasn't there that day at home.
And he usually sits at the top, like basically at the head of the table in the kitchen, right?
And then from where the kitchen is in my old apartment was that there was two openings to walk into it.
There was no doors or anything.
I was just like walk right in from the hallway, you know, usual apartment type of kitchen.
where it's just covered by like a small wall and had two openings to go in and out.
And then from where my dad would usually sit where I was sitting that day,
it was just literally me, my mom, and my little brother.
So she's sitting beside me and my little brother sitting across from me.
And I was probably maybe, I'd say probably six, a bit more than that.
So around maybe like probably 10.
I wasn't too, too young, but still old enough to remember what I saw.
So this was probably like in the afternoon, you know, during summertime.
So there was no school.
So just literally eating, you know, lunch.
And then all of a sudden I just look up and then from where the kitchen is to the second opening of the kitchen,
you can literally see the opening of my parents' room.
And what they had stuck on that side of the wall near the door was a treadmill.
So what I literally saw was the black shadow figure, whatever you want to call it.
Like, I mean, fully black.
Like, there was no, it wasn't like a cromy car looker and, like, full on black.
Like, there was, like, light could not pass through it.
Just, like, no eyes, no nothing.
It was if someone was wearing a full black jumpsuit.
But, like I said, there was nobody in the house, right?
So it literally looked like something that was shadowy.
But it wasn't see if it was fully black.
So basically it appeared out of nowhere, and I'm just looking at it.
I wasn't scared of anything.
You know, you'd expect kids to be scared of this.
But I just kept looking at it.
And then as it turned around from the door, it looked at me and then looked back into my parents' room.
And then it just literally strolled from my parents' room into my room that you can't see until you pop your head through the hallway.
And it just disappeared.
I got up, I looked.
There's nothing there.
I didn't mention anything to my mom because, you know, she'd probably call me crazy for something like that.
So I just kept it to myself.
And then that was the first time that happened.
Like I said, there was nothing too scary.
Like I said, there was no face, there was no nose, there was no eyes.
It's just like a completely black, black figure.
And then the second time that happened was I was sitting and watching TV.
Nobody, I'm pretty sure nobody was home that night.
This was probably like a year or two later.
Just babysitting mother about it, I was asleep.
I'm not sure if I explained to you in the email how I was living on the second,
our apartment was on the second floor.
So we had like this alleyway behind us that had like one light, like one amber light that would light it up like an normal street light.
So I'm just literally watching TV and I'm sitting on that beloved chair if you want to call that one single chair you can sit on watching TV.
And next thing you know, just something told me to turn right and just look down the hallway where at the end of the hallway was my room, but the door was open and then I had a window in my room facing towards the alley.
Basically what happened was I just turned around and next thing you know I see the side profile of a face just walk from one end.
of the window to the other end of the window.
Because you can see basically like 90% of the window
just sitting from the hallway if the door was open.
But like I said, I never really thought anything about it
until I started listening to your show
and, you know, got into more
into the supernational paranormal stuff
in the shadow figures.
And then we ended up moving from that apartment a few years ago.
And then my little brother's friend still lived in that neighborhood.
So I was dropping him off there one time.
I'm like, let me pass by and check that old alley
to see how high was it.
Maybe, you know, maybe I thought like it was a person passing by at night, you know, maybe I just saw his reflection.
Then I realized that you'd have to be at least, at least 12 feet tall for your reflection to show up on that window.
Because the amber light was above you.
And like I said, it was a second floor apartment.
So there was really no way of anybody that was crossing, you know, walking down that alley of basically showing up, you know, showing up as a reflection on the window.
So that's what made me think, you know,
what if it was that same, whatever you want to call it,
shadow figure, you know, whatever name,
you know, everybody has different names for them, right?
So I'm really not too sure what it was,
but like, it creeps me out more today than I did when I was a kid
when I think about it now, you know what I mean?
So that was the first one and two encounters
that I had in regards to a shadow figure.
Luckily, never had anything since,
nothing at the new house,
nothing weird like that.
But that was the main two.
I mean, too, you know, shadow figure encounters that it has a child.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting that you weren't scared of it then,
but now it kind of makes you a little uneasy.
And do you think that's because you're a little bit more educated in these topics
than you were when you were a kid?
I think so, to be honest, you know, I was my whole,
ever since I was a kid, I was always into, like, I'd say the paranormal,
but, because of the TV shows that we had here and, you know, in Canada,
we had this TV show.
I'm not sure if ever aired in this.
It was called Mystery Hunters.
Like two teenagers going in different parts of the world
and places in Canada and the States,
you know, looking for ghosts,
looking for the skunk game down in Florida,
whatever it was, you know what I mean?
So I was always kind of interested in these topics.
But the older you get, you know,
the more you get educated into it and stuff like that.
So I was surprised that it never really creeped me out as a child.
You know what I mean?
But now that I think about it,
it's making me a bit iffy to think that I actually saw
something because I've literally never had anything scary
happened to me since then, literally.
So that's why.
Yeah, that's interesting, man.
I've never heard of that show, though.
It must have just aired in Canada.
But, you know, I'm probably the wrong person to talk about TV shows and movies and stuff.
It's well documented that I don't know half of the movies and TV shows out there.
I don't watch TV a whole lot unless it's an NBA basketball game.
So, which, by the way, your Toronto Raptors are looking pretty darn good this year.
So I don't know if you follow basketball, but if you don't, it's a good time to start.
Yeah, I'm not too crazy about basketball.
My friends are, but I've been keeping up with Toronto up.
It seems like they're doing pretty good this year.
You know, I'll tell that they got new players and some players left.
So I wish I was still into sports when I was a kid, you know,
but I guess the older you grow, the more responsibilities you have.
So you don't have time too much time to watch TV, you know what I mean?
I literally work.
I listen to your podcast.
I listen to, you know, Western Southwold.
Chronicles podcast, really that's about it.
You know what I mean?
When I'm at work, so definitely, yeah.
Right.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting, though, man.
Like, I do this podcast, but I really do think about some time starting an NBA basketball
podcast because that's, you know, I could talk basketball forever.
So I've kicked it around and stuff, but maybe one of these days I'll actually drop one of
those episodes.
I actually recorded an episode already.
Maybe I'll release it one of these days.
Yeah. But anyways, let's get back on to you, man, because what you saw was these shadow figures. Now,
I don't expect your memory to be 100% accurate here, but do you ever remember thinking you might
have seen like a hat on these figures, like the people talking about these hatmen that everybody sees?
So for the hatman, I've actually heard about it. I'm not sure if you've heard of this, this
documentary called Nightmare on Netflix. It's really creepy. Like the way they get it, it's about
like sleep paralysis and the hatman
and how like there's always
specific things
that people see when they have sleep paralysis
you know what I mean? Either the old
the night hag or the hat man or
or something else that's creepy
you know what I mean so it didn't look like
it was it was like a
like the hat man or anything it's like I said
it literally looked like a normal size
adult just you know fully black
like it was no light through it wasn't shadowy
it wasn't smoky but like I said
there was no eyes it was no nose there's no mouth
that's what I found weird.
You'd expect to see eyes or something creepy out of something like that.
You know what I mean?
But it's like a completely black figure.
And like I said,
nobody was home that day.
My parents are not as pet-tical pranks on me
or do pranks on their kids or anything like that.
So that's why I've always,
it's always been in the back of my head
and it just recently popped up when I was listening to your show
in regards to, you know,
I don't remember which podcast episode it was,
but someone was talking about like shadow figures.
And that's when, you know, it kicked into my head.
I'm like, oh my God, you know, this actually happened to me and I never, and I had completely
pushed into the back of my mind since, um, since I don't remember much about it. You know what I mean?
So, yeah. Well, I can understand that, man. I absolutely understand that. It's been a long time and
stuff. Do you know the history of the place you were living in now? I know you said it was an
apartment building, but was there, you know, was it a building that was renovated to be an apartment
and might have had some kind of history to it or what? Um, I've always, actually, I was thinking about actually,
maybe doing some research about.
But the way, it wasn't like an apartment complex where there was like an elevator and you had like 20 floors or something like that.
It was literally like you had the bottom first part of, you know, the apartment, which was like the first floor.
And they need to walk up the steps.
And then you had two doors.
You had the door to my apartment.
And then you had the door to the third floor apartment, which was more steps because my neighbors stepped up there.
I visited them.
And then up there, they had their own apartment.
It was literally just three-floor apartment and like a neighborhood full of houses.
You know what I mean?
So I know that it was probably built somewhere in the late 60s, 70s.
That's really about it.
We bought it off my mom's cousin when we came from Lebanon when we first moved back here.
So that's really all I know, you know what I mean.
But I don't think it was built on any sacred land or anything like that or anything.
But I remember hearing because where it was located, there was like a park, like a kid's park, literally like a block down the street.
And then behind there was like the woods where there was like
A Trout and stuff like that and always my friends used to always talk about
Supposedly the switch I don't know what it was I never looked into it but supposedly a
Wurps that lived deep down in the woods and we're always born not to go down there
So I'm not too sure if that was true or it was not and everybody looked into it that kind of creeped us all out
So we never wandered too far down into the woods you know
We used to have like a like a trail where we used to take our BMXs and mountain bikes on and that was like that was about it
We never took too deep because we always heard about it
always, which leaning this old house down in the middle of the woods.
So we never bothered it.
So maybe it was something that had to do with that if it was true.
You know, so I'm not sure to be honest with you,
but it seemed like your typical neighborhood.
It wasn't too old.
It didn't seem like there was never any deaths there.
There was never any fighting or anything.
It was a very calm neighborhood with like either old people living there
or just like new couples with no kids.
So that's really what it was.
Okay, gotcha.
Yeah, that's, I mean, I like asking those kind of
questions because, you know, sometimes you hear, you know, some history of the place and
all of a sudden you start drawing the connection. You're like, okay, that makes sense. Like you
mentioned about like burial grounds or something like that. Like sometimes, you know, here
are buildings and stuff, houses that were built on, you know, ancient Indian burial grounds and or,
you know, it was owned by an axed murderer, you know? So it's like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Yeah,
now I know why you were seeing what you're seeing. But, um, exactly. So, I mean, has anybody,
else ever, you know, said anything to you about seeing something? Or was this something that
you really only feel like you saw? I think, to be honest with you, it was only peace.
My mother-brother-brother's not too into the paranormal, doesn't really care about it as much
as I do. I don't think, I've never asked him, to be honest with you, if he's ever seen anything.
But I should, I should definitely ask him, because he was, he was always scared to sleep on his
home until he was, like, 12 or 13, you know what I mean, because of something. And then whenever, whenever we were
forced to put him to sleep in his own bed up until he got used to with, you know what I mean?
He was always curled up up to his face.
Like, I mean, like he put the blanket right up into his face and he'd look like old none,
you know what I mean?
Because he was scared of something.
I don't know what it was, maybe because I used to creep him out with stories.
I'm not too sure if he saw something or anything like I'd have to double check and ask
him to see if he's noticed anything.
But my mom's never noticed anything other than that story I told you about, you know,
supposedly visiting her in that old apartment.
My dad finds it crazy that I talk about these kinds of stuff,
even though my mom actually mentioned something for me
that he always sees this really ugly face up very close to him at night,
and he never said anything about it.
I'm like, speak about it, and he just won't speak about it.
And then my mom pulled me aside.
He's like, yeah, he always sees like this really ugly sort of face
that nobody's ever explained to me because they don't want to bring it up.
I'm not too sure why.
in his sleep.
So I'm not too sure if he's having sleep paralysis.
I'm not sure if he's actually seeing something
that's coming or anything like that.
But there's never,
nothing goes on in my house.
We bought our brand new,
our house was literally built and we moved into it.
So it wasn't built on any,
it was built on an old horse race track
that used to be in the area.
But that's about it.
I'm not sure if a horse died there
and a horse can come back and haunchy
or like a jockey maybe died on that.
I'm not too sure.
but, you know, me personally, I think I was the only one that's ever experienced anything.
I had to do with the shadow figures in the old apartment.
You know, never had the chance to ask my parents, because, like I said,
they think I'm a bit crazy when I talk about this kind of stuff, you know,
or Bigfoot or anything like that, but, you know, so I'm not too sure.
Yeah, that's fine.
I mean, I was just, I was curious, but, you know, you said that you were into the paranormal
now.
Is that something that was spawned from your experiences, or were you into the paranormal
one beforehand.
I think maybe that started it.
I'm not too sure if maybe that sparked it and maybe why that I continued on there.
But like I said, what really sparked it was that TV show.
There was literally that TV show called Mystery Hunters, like I said.
And then there's other show that airing on some American network.
I'm not too sure what it's called.
Sorry, not airing right now, but they're re-airing it.
It's called Creepy Canada or something like that.
I remember watching something and seeing something that happened actually not too far away.
some location here in Ottawa,
like at an old fort that's like maybe an hour away from here.
So I literally, I would say that it was a TV show
that kind of sparked my interest, you know what I mean?
In regards to that.
And just, it grew on from there.
You know, the older I got, the more I got into it
and, you know, started learning about whatever you want,
like demonology and, you know, ghosts and aliens.
And, you know, the usual stuff that people,
I'm not saying I'm a full believer,
but like it's always,
nice to have a typical point of view about things, you know what I mean? But there's a lot of
things that can be explained that I don't let, you know, not everything is a hoax in this world,
you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely, man. I get it. Not everything can be a hoax. I mean,
when you have so many people sharing these experiences that they've had, certainly not everybody
can be either lying or just totally mentally insane. So, I mean, somebody's got to be telling the
truth. You did mention it just a few minutes ago about your mom. So why don't you kind of go
into that, man, because you said that your mom had supposedly encountered a saint. So talk to us
about it. So yeah, so basically what happened was when my dad was working the late night shift
overnight because he used to be a taxi driver. And this was when my little baby, well, sorry,
when my little brother was still a baby sleeping in the crib, so he was in another room. So I would just
go and sleep beside my mom in the bed, right? You know what I mean? So, and I never knew about this
until she told me maybe like a few months later.
And she didn't even tell me.
She mentioned it to one of my aunts.
And then when I heard the story, I kid you not.
Like, it's like you drain the blood out of me.
I freaked out.
I'm like, how could you not tell me that this happened while I was sleeping right beside you?
So basically how she explained it was that she was asleep.
And then in through the door of her bedroom, she saw this figure that was dressed as a monk.
Like, you know how monks dressed up like the full black girl?
and like the hood.
So she basically saw that, but he was not walking.
She said he was literally floating from the main door
and floated all across the front bedroom
and then pulled up beside her.
And then she, like he basically put her hand,
his hand, sorry, to her face.
Not like as if he was going to slap her
or like choke her or anything like that,
but like it was like,
she's like, she's like,
I felt I was like in a meditative state,
like a trans state almost, you know what I mean?
Because like I said,
my mom was really,
religious and stuff like that.
So literally, as soon as he got close to her,
she told me, I literally smelled the smell that you smell when you go up to the
monasteries.
And I'm like, there's a certain smell that you smell when you go up there.
Like, it's very fresh, clean air.
You know, there's no pollution.
They don't let too many cars up there when people visit and whatnot.
So it's like as if I just got teleported back, you know,
back to the homeland and had to smell to smell and came back.
And that's basically that was the first.
encounter she had with something
that legitimate. So I'm not too sure if he did something
or anything like that, but I have to definitely double
check and ask her because I never really wanted to
bring it up to her again. Because it's not that she was creeped out,
but it was like something very emotional to her, you know what I mean?
But like that, you know, even though it's a sane and it's supposed to be something
good, I freaked out as a child. You know, I was like,
imagine you're sleeping beside your mom and something comes floating
into the room, pulls up to your mom beside you and just disappears.
know what I mean? I was like, wow, that's pretty insane, you know, so.
That's something that, you know, I'm sure your mom found it as a deeply spiritual experience for her.
And I think this is a good time to just kind of bleed it right in.
Why don't you talk about what you experienced that you called a miracle?
Because maybe these two things are a little bit related. Who knows?
To be honest with you, I think they might be.
I do too
The specific saint
that I'm talking about
actually did a miracle
on some lady in Arizona
not too long ago
she was completely blind
and the next thing
she woke up
and she had vision again
and then she remember
seeing him specifically
performing surgery
not necessarily
performing surgery
but like doing something
I'm not too sure
what the story was
I'd have to look into it
or maybe even send you a link
about it literally a woman in Arizona
you know
he's revered in Mexico
and stuff like that
and mostly all
over the world with Catholic specifically.
So basically what happened with me is that as a child, I had epilepsy.
So, you know, you have constant seizures and not necessarily constant seizures on a daily basis,
but some people have daily seizures.
Some people just happen out of nowhere.
Like it was to the point where I had a seizure in church one time
and almost gave my great uncle a heart attack because he didn't know what was happening
to me.
You know, I just dropped and started foaming at the mouth in church.
They think I was possessed or something.
So basically, we ended up visiting one of the monasteries of these saints in Lebanon,
and then there was this little church that was built underneath the monastery.
And like I said, it was very, very small church.
It wasn't huge, like the main church that's upstairs or anything like that.
So nobody was there, nobody was sitting there other than me.
Not like not my mom, not my dad, because they had lost me that.
Not necessarily they had locked me, but like, you know, they were looking for me around.
So I just went by myself and supposedly wandered there for me.
some strange reason. I don't remember why
or anything like that. So what ended up happening was
I'm just sitting there. And then
you know, like I said,
out of nowhere, there was no priest, there was
no monks, nobody visiting in that church. And then
I'm just sitting there and next thing, you know,
this piece of candy, like wrapped candy, just
hits me in the head. I'm like, what is this? It just drops. I'm like,
oh, candy, right? You know, every kid
likes candy, so why wouldn't I take it?
And then next thing, you know, I just look up and I see
this bright, white light, like you've seen
movies, like, you know, the
gates of heaven are opening or something like that.
Like literally a very bright white light coming from the ceiling.
And it wasn't like the light that they had because there was no lighter than the candles
lighting up this church because it's a very old church underneath the actual main church.
So basically, like I said, I saw this white light and then like three, four candies dropped and just like, oh, candy.
So I just started eating them.
And then, you know, I ran to my mom and I told my mom like, oh, look, there was candy.
She's like, who gave it to you?
I'm like, nobody gave it to me.
It just fell out of discussion.
Like, what do you mean?
It fell from the roof.
and like it fell from the roof.
And she was like,
and she just brushed it off,
like nothing happening.
You know,
she thinks that maybe a monkey
candy or like one of the priests
or something that'd given me candy
or something like that.
So basically when I went back
to do my test for the epilepsy
where they put like these
these sticky things
so you had to measure
the electricity in your brain
like they do to,
you know,
to measure specific muscle movement
or something like that on your body.
Same kind of concept.
All the electricity had disappeared
after I had eaten that candy.
So the appointment was maybe two weeks
to a month later. I'm not sure. I can definitely
double-check with my mom to see what it was.
I think I still even have the papers
proving that there's nothing left
that there was nothing left
of some sort of electricity in my brain.
Ever since then, I never needed the medication
that I used to take
for it. Never had a seizure, never
had any complications from it.
And nothing, nothing at all.
And I'm very thankful for that
if that was the saint, or who
ever, you know, will cause this miracle that if you want to call it back for that, you know what I mean?
So it's a pretty, pretty crazy story.
I guess that people call me crazy about it.
People laugh at me when I mentioned it to my friends.
I'm like, I'm not, I'm not BSing you, you know what I mean?
Like this is legit, like when the candy fell from the sky of the church and I just ate it.
And then two to three weeks later, you know, I go for my appointment and nothing's there left.
And like I said, same thing with my cousin.
She has epilepsy.
She's 25.
She's a bit older than me.
and she still takes this medication until this day,
and her epilepsy's not gone.
She still has a bit of complications from it and whatnot.
So I'm very grateful that ended up happening to me, you know what I mean?
Yeah, so, I mean, you get to eat some candy, some fruit snacks,
and you get healed.
That's pretty cool.
Exactly, yeah.
Like God works in mysterious ways, you know what I mean?
So maybe he saw that as a way of killing me by just dropping me candy instead of doing them
in some other way.
I'm not too sure.
like I said, it's a very high possibility,
but like why basically make me feel like I should just walk to this,
to this little church, you know what I mean,
and just sit there by myself.
And like I recently went back to the homeland,
which is Lebanon, this past summer,
and I went and visited that church.
And I looked around and I'm like, wow, like, I mean,
it looks smaller now because I've gotten older,
but, you know, I double checked, I looked up,
I looked everywhere.
I even asked the monks around.
I told them about my story like that,
that's pretty insane, you know what I mean?
That, you know, nobody was there
and nobody could have actually gotten candy
and thrown it at you because there was no second level
steps where like the choir would sit and say, you know what I mean?
So there was none of that, like I said,
so there's no way for someone to just chuck candy from behind
and, you know, pull me into thinking that, you know,
here's some candy, eat it, you know what I mean?
And not confront me about giving me candy.
It just literally came out of nowhere.
I consumed it.
And then, you know, ever since then,
I've never had any complications or any seizures or anything like that.
thankfully. You know, I find it interesting that, you know, because miracles happen, right? And so, I mean,
at least I believe miracles happen. And clearly you believe miracles happen. But, I mean,
when we're talking about a supernatural power, whatever you believe, you know, whoever that supernatural
power is, candies seems so far like, unnecessary, right?
just if there was somebody that needs to be healed,
it just,
it's like if you have the power to do that,
there is no need for the consumption of the candies.
I just wonder what the candy's purpose was.
Like sometimes when there's things that happen when it comes to miracles and things like that,
it's like there's symbolism.
You know what I mean?
Like there's,
like you doing something is the act of faith.
that allowed the open door for the healing to take place.
But you're a kid and you're just, you know,
eating some candy that you thought was, that was, you know,
hey, cool, candy, you know?
But you drew the connection where, you know,
from that point on, the epilepsy was gone.
The next time you went to the doctor, it was completely gone, right?
Completely gone.
Yeah, like I said, I've never had a seizure, never experienced anything nowhere near it.
like I said, the electricity was whatever happens.
I'm not sure how epilepsy works or anything like that.
Like I said, every single thing that has to do with epilepsy or seizures was just completely gone out of me.
Like it's just one day it was there, you know, next thing you know, it's completely fun.
Literally.
And it was after that, what I noticed was after that encounter that I suppose, you know, that I had with the candy.
But like I said, I've always tried to draw a connection as to why candy, you know what I mean?
why can you just healed me overnight of some sort of way or, you know, I'm not too sure.
I'm not too sure why it was possibly candy.
It drives me crazy until the day to think about it and make a connection.
But I literally realized, like, it was after that fact that I found that candy and I ate it
that literally fell from, you know, the roof of this, this rock, this church that's built into
rock, not even wood, you know, and it was like I said, there wasn't a full-sized church where there
It was like a choir where they can sit and they had the organ upstairs or anything like that.
Like I said, it's a little tiny church where you have to bend down to the door and get into it and stuff like that.
Really old church.
And that's literally where it happened.
It was all by myself that day.
Like I said, there was nobody there coming off for me candy.
No monks, no priests, no family friend, not my mom, not my dad, nobody, you know what I mean?
So that's why, that's what I find that pretty crazy that, you know, that happened to me.
I got really lucky with that, fortunately.
Yeah, absolutely, man.
You know, and to kind of relate with you a little bit,
I believe that I was personally healed physically.
I had at one time in my life in my early 20s,
actually wasn't even 20s, I was probably like 19 years old.
I had a condition called paracuriditis,
which the tissue on the bottom of my heart swelled a quarter of an inch off my heart.
And it was extremely painful,
and it's lethal.
And the pain felt lethal.
I mean, I felt like I was going to die.
And they said, if I, you know, if I didn't take care of this, I was going to die.
And, you know, I had a lot of people praying for me.
I was praying.
And the day that I was set to go to the heart doctor, I felt a lot better.
And when I go there, the doctor gets irritated with me because I'm in his office and there's nothing wrong with him.
Like, or nothing wrong with me.
And so, like, I'm sitting there.
and this doctor's like visibly irritated that I'm wasting his time. And I'm like, sorry, dude.
You know, but I feel, I really believe that I was healed. Now, that was through prayer. But I've also
heard of other people's experiences where it's more of a interaction like you had, not like with candies,
but like physically, there's some kind of interaction. But a lot of times, like I said, it, it kind of
leans towards you acting in faith to do something and then the response is a healing.
But for you, I just don't see how, you know, candies is an act of faith.
But I would say that...
I know, right?
It makes no sense.
It doesn't need to.
Yeah, it doesn't need to.
I mean, you're a kid.
Exactly.
And your experience is what you experienced.
There's a lot of things that I believe spiritually.
that I don't understand and don't make sense to me, but I do believe them.
But you had this experience and your mom had this experience with the saint.
What are the connections there?
I mean, you said that you think that they're kind of related.
And I think that there's probably a possibility that there is a relation there.
Have you ever been able to connect any dots as to the two events, maybe connecting in some way?
Well, to be honest with you, not specifically because the candy story happened.
before we moved to Canada,
the one where the saint visited my mom was,
was here in Canada,
and this was like maybe 10 years ago, I'd say,
like I said,
when my dad was working the night shift,
so my mom had nobody to sleep.
She didn't want to sleep alone, right?
So I was like, okay, fine.
I enjoy sleeping in a big bed,
and I have all this room,
so it might as well, you know what I mean?
So, and I really think it's all because of my mom
because she's really, really, really religious.
And she's even had, like, you know,
I'm not too sure. I don't like to get too much into her about it, but, you know, I think it's because of all the prayer that she puts out, if you want to call it that, you know, to the saint, you know, to Jesus, to God, just, you know, the general way of doing things, if, you know, for people that believe in Christianity, for example, you know what I mean?
So I really think it's because of my mom.
I don't think if it wasn't for all the praying,
and my mom did when I was a kid and I was going through that,
that would have happened, to be honest with you.
Because everyone was worried, you know what I mean?
I'm like, oh, like, this basically ruins your life.
You can't necessarily work.
You can't drive.
You can't do nothing.
You can't go out because they're worried about you.
They just might have a seizure and drop in the middle of the road
and get hit by a car.
You know what I mean?
So, like, I think it was all through the prayer of,
of my family. But like I said, the whole candy story, it drives me crazy until this day to think
why candy? You know what I mean? Why was it, why was it through candy that it seemed that I was
healed from my, from the issues of epilepsy? And, you know, it's completely gone now. Like I said,
I've never had to take a single drop of medication ever since then for that. You know what I mean?
Thankfully. And my cousin still has to when she's taking the exact same medication that I have
since she was six years old, and she's 25 now,
and she still has to take it.
And they still have to go and get it from a specific place
and have to go through all this nonsense
to make sure she has it.
You know what I mean?
So that's one of the things I think, you know,
possibly are interconnected.
But I think it's mostly through prayer because of my mom, you know?
Yeah, so let me ask you a question here.
And you don't have to answer me if you don't want to and stuff.
But I'm curious, what faith?
is your mom or you, depending on, you know, if you follow your mom's faith or not, but what faith is your mom at least?
So basically my family and us, basically. So yeah, well, it's all the same, you know, we're technically Eastern Catholics. So we don't follow necessarily, like basically at my church. They don't do Latin, like your typical Roman Catholic church. It's an Eastern Catholic. So it's mainly in Arabic and Aramaic. So the language that Jesus used to speak,
in that area of Israel back in the day.
So it's very similar.
There's a lot of words that sound Arabic
because that's where the Arabic language came from.
So it's technically, you know, technically Catholic,
but it's called, we're called Marinette,
so M-A-R-O-N-I-T-E.
You know, we've been in Lebanon for like 1,600 years,
and we have, you know, a few saints that have done lots of miracles.
And the most famous one is that the one that I told you about,
which his name is St. Charbel.
like I said, that lady in Arizona,
and the most famous, you know, supposedly miracle that he's made
was on this lady. I forgot what her name was. I'll have to look it up for you.
Basically what happened, she had this disease,
this disease that was basically killing her.
And the doctors couldn't find a cure. Nobody could find a cure for her.
And then one night on the 22nd one of these months,
I'm not too sure. Maybe I can double check with my mom because she knows all of this.
and what happened was
she randomly woke up in the night
and there was two saints
like two,
I'm not going to say saints,
but out of nowhere,
two monks appeared out of nowhere
and were told her that,
you know,
we're doing the surgery on you.
And she just let herself go,
you know what I mean?
She thought that, you know,
she had just woken up
and doctors were there
doing the surgery that had something to do
with her throat.
So ever since then,
she's literally been healed.
But the crazy part about it
is that every single 20 seconds,
of every month, she bleeds from those incisions where that the supposed saints, you know,
did to her. Literally every single 22nd, you can go and see her, they visit her in Lebanon.
Every single 20 seconds, they walk up to the monastery of St. Sharbo, where he used to live as a monk,
as a hermit, basically. And then literally every 20 seconds, this is what drives me crazy,
is that every 20 second, she literally bleeds from those cuts. And it just oozes out blood.
you know what I mean. I'm not too sure if
she was making this up, but like I've seen
it physically with my own eyes.
My family has, you know, a lot of
Lebanese people have. She's very
known in Lebanon about
what happened with her in this specific miracle.
You know what I mean?
So that's
basically it. So you
you've seen her in person?
Yeah, I have seen her
person. I've visited her house.
Like we've, you know,
my mom has met her
before and stuff like that.
And that's like, that's what, that's what I don't understand.
Like, why is it still oozing, you know, all these years later, every single, specifically,
not the 21st and not the 23rd, but every 22nd of the month, blood comes out out of the
incisions with a supposed thing, the miracle on her.
And she's completely free of her disease that she had and all of that, you know,
same kind of concept as me, you know what I mean?
But her was different.
It wasn't candy or anything like that.
But it was literally those incisions.
Every single 22nd of the month, they bleed.
So that's what's pretty crazy about that story, you know what I mean?
Like I said, I can definitely send you a story and you can read into yourself.
I'm not saying you have to believe it or anybody has to believe it,
but literally, like, it's an own story in my country about, you know,
about this specific lady that had this miracle with these saints.
And that's not the only miracle he's done.
He's done so much miracles that, you know, there's some miracles that he's done that
the monastery and people won't talk about because they're so big.
And there's lots of canes that are left at the monastery from people that were just, you know,
randomly healed from their walking problems.
I mean, the last time I saw it,
because I know they removed them this past visit that I went to visit,
probably a good over 100 canes just lying there
on the side of the monastery that people just, you know,
randomly got healed from just going there or visiting there,
or praying or, for example,
or doing something that had to do with prayer or something like that.
And like I said, just miraculously healed.
That's crazy because it sounds.
you know what I mean.
It's hard to believe sometimes stories like this,
but like no BS.
Like I witnessed it with my own eyes, you know what I mean?
So he's very, like I said, very famous saint in the Catholic Church technically now
since they canaanized him back in 19, in the early 70s from what I can remember, you know.
Like I said, he was just a hermit that lived as a monk, as a Maronite monk in Lebanon
and one of these monasteries, you know.
And like imagine the life that they had to go through, right?
because Lebanon is in the Mediterranean,
and you know, you can literally
drive up to the mountains,
a snowboard and ski, and then the 30-minute drive
down to the beach, and you're on the beach, you know what I mean?
All in one day.
So they had a really rough time living up
in the mountains during the winter
because where he slept,
they so have the little piece of, like,
it wasn't even a bed, it wasn't even a mattress.
Like it was just literally like this thing
that he rolled out and he slept on,
and his pillow was made out of wood.
And that's literally what he slept.
He slept on a pill that was literally a log of wood, and it's still there.
You can still go and visit it and see it.
And I find that pretty crazy that, you know, someone could actually live out that life of, you know, no speaking, just living off the land, not letting their parents visit him, sleeping on a log of wood in the middle of winter.
And it's like freezing cold outside, you know.
It's like, it's pretty crazy.
Pretty crazy the story.
The story he has to go through.
You know what I mean?
And like I said, it's pretty insane.
I can definitely send you some links if you want to look more into it.
Even about that Arizona woman that literally happened like two years ago,
which wasn't even too long ago, you know?
Yeah.
Was his name Daphne Gutrez?
Yeah, that's very exactly.
So Daphne Guterres, yeah.
Gutierrez, okay.
So she's completely different blindness, yeah, an Arizona woman, yeah.
That's right.
Okay, gotcha, gotcha.
Well, listen, before we get out of here,
I want you to take it just a moment.
hear and share your friend's experience with shadow people. I know she told you an experience
and she knew that you were going to be on the show. So I want you to share her shadow person
experience that she shared with you. Yeah, sure. So she basically, basically, like, she works with me.
And we were never really close up until I had to, you know, I work at a call center. So I had to
end up sitting beside her one time because there's no other seat. And you just start talking and
she's into the paranormal. Like not necessarily into the paranormal. She's a bit of a skeptic, but
like she's had stuff happen to her, like I said.
So one of the things that happened was that she had opened the door to go down to her basement.
And, you know, if you're familiar with like old basement doors, you know, you can just open the door and the stairs lead right away down to the basement, like the old unfinished basement.
So as she was so, she opened the door and as she was turning her head to turn the light on, she turned back.
And as she looked down the hallway, she saw the shadow figure and it just immediately, as soon as she saw it, it booked it down.
to the right and just disappears
at the base. She's like, oh, crap, what now.
So she calmly walked
down, she turned the lights on, calmly walked down,
looked around, couldn't find anything.
And that was, like, her first encounter
with that. And the other creepy encounter that
she had was, she actually took a picture of this,
and I'm trying to find it, so maybe I can send it to you
and have her email it to you
possibly. If you've
ever seen a window in the
washroom, you know, like, there's
a main glass, and then in between the glass,
there's, like, the net
for like bugs and stuff
and then there's the other piece of glass
where you can just open up the window
and then it opens and stretches out.
So basically what she saw
was a handprint on the inside
of the first class window
but not on the outside
like where she put her palm on
but like as someone had reached in
through the net perfectly
and like you know
somehow magically got his full hand past the net
and didn't rip it, didn't do anything
and imprinted his
whatever imprint of his right hand.
on the window.
So she freaked out about that because she doesn't know who it is.
It's only her and her sister that live in the house.
The window's on the second floor so nobody can actually reach up and break to the net.
Like I said, the net was not broken.
She really has a picture of this.
And you can see, it's like, you know when something's fogged up and you just put your hand on it?
And then you can see the imprints of your hands.
Like when you used to do hand paintings of a kid, like you can just see the, like, a good chunk of like, you know, your fingers and like just a bit of your hand that was missing.
and you can see the rest of your of like your palm.
Same kind of concept, just literally on the inside of the first window,
but that's what drove me crazy, is that the net wasn't broken.
Like I said, it's on the second floor,
so nobody can actually reach up and just, you know,
break the net and get his hand in there.
So like, how did that get there?
You know what I mean?
It's not like it's been there for a while.
She's never noticed it or anything like that.
So that's, you know, she came back to work one day and showed us this picture,
and we're all freaking out at work.
I'm like, how did this happen?
How did someone's hand get?
passed in it and printed onto the inside of the first piece of window, you know what I mean?
So, like, that was one of her two in-cadjad.
I know she has many more, like, a few more that has happened to her with, you know,
something that was like a basket that was sitting somewhere for like six months,
that was never moved from there.
And next thing she hears the screeching.
And then next thing, you know, it just drops out of nowhere off the shelf, you know?
And she literally hadn't touched that whole basket.
So a good six months and nobody moved it.
And it wasn't the cat and it wasn't her sister.
She was just literally sitting there.
She's like, what's that scratching noise?
And she turned around and the thing just dropped over as if it was like some
like, sorry, polter guy's activity or something like that.
So pretty crazy stories that she's had that happened at her house.
And we tried to figure out if there was something in her house, if it was built on something.
And now it was just like an old house that was built in the 70s.
Nobody was killed there.
Same kind of stories in my old apartment building.
It was nothing iffy about it or anything like that.
You know what I mean?
So that's what she finds weird.
Is that where this shadow figure that she saw in the basement appear out of?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely, Kevin.
Well, I think that, you know, she probably has something going on there
if things are kind of falling off edges and all that crap.
And you know it's not the cat.
It's just, I don't know, that kind of stuff is a little freaky.
But I'll tell you what, man, I appreciate you coming on and sharing these experiences and stuff.
And, you know, you know how to get it.
to hold me if you ever have anything else you want to share.
Perfect.
Well, thank you very much for the opportunity, Tony.
It was good to get this off my chest and have someone kind of believe me or, you know,
but not call me crazy about the whole candy story and, you know, the shadow encounters
that have had a house, you know what I mean?
So, like, it's good that you do this, let people talk on here and, you know, things get off
their chest.
Well, that's the goal, man.
That's the goal.
The goal is that people have experiences and they need to get it off their chest.
and so we have this platform for people to do that.
Man, it was a pleasure talking to you, and thank you for being on. Take care.
Okay, and you thought we were done, but we're not done. Why? Because we were just talking to Kevin
off air, and he started sharing some experiences that he should have shared on the actual interview.
So, Kevin, you're back. How you doing, man?
Not too bad. Thank you for putting me back. I'm sorry. I gave you share the story at first.
I literally just click back. That's why.
Yeah, man. So let's just get right into it.
dude, you're talking about sleep paralysis.
Just start from the beginning what you experienced because this is something that, dude,
you should have shared during the main interview.
Go for it, man.
Yeah, yeah.
That's perfect.
So yeah, so just one night, maybe like, you know, a good two years ago, I was just, you know,
after a long day of work, you know, used to work as a car detail.
So I was, you know, we had a long day at work that day.
It was pretty destroyed.
Came back home, you know, just got into bed.
I had, you know, I have a TV in my room.
on Netflix, you know, some random alien
documentary, and then
just basically knocked out to it
and turned it off. I didn't, you know, sleep.
You know, I'm not too creeped out by these documents.
It doesn't mean anything to me, you know what I mean?
So literally, as I passed out, you know,
maybe probably like a good 20, 30 minutes
into my sleep, I abruptly get
awoken into the sleep paralysis state.
Like, like, what people happen. And this has never
happened to me before or anything like that.
So I'm looking around and I see
this really bright light like you see in your
typical alien movie shining.
through the blinds in my room.
And I'm still not freaking out at this moment,
but I'm like, what's happening?
Why can't I move my arms?
Why can't I talk?
And the next thing you know, out of nowhere,
three beings that looked like aliens,
if you want to call them, whatever, you know, grayish,
some sort of some fuzzy-looking faces.
It couldn't really tell.
It didn't look like your typical gray aliens
or like the aliens, you know,
like in movies or anything like that.
And then when I saw them, I started freaking out,
you know, because it literally physically felt like
two of them were pulling out.
at my leg to try to drag me with them somewhere.
And the other third one was just sitting there watching me.
And I'm freaking out and freaking out and freaking out and freaking.
I'm trying to break free from this paralysis state that I'm in.
And luckily broke out of it somehow, some way, and they just disappeared.
And the light disappeared instantly.
And then literally for the two nights that came along, the whole night I did not sleep.
And the next night, I was too terrified to sleep.
So I ended up pulling it all night at the night after just so I wasn't, just go out.
I didn't want to experience that or anything like that again.
So I'm not sure if it was an abduction gone wrong, if it was just literally my sleep paralysis.
At first I thought it was just, oh, maybe because I was watching the documentary.
And, you know, this just happened because I, you know, my subconscious was maybe thinking about it or something like that.
But, you know, like I was explaining to you, why is it that with every sleep paralysis, people see specific things?
Like the nighthag, the hatman, aliens, you know, some weird legged creature that just comes and sits on your chest or something like that.
Who knows?
You know what I mean?
But like I said, I used to have different theories about aliens.
Just assuming they were extraterrestrials,
but from the looks of it, you know,
the more I listen to people's podcasts and get into it,
it seems like they're more interdimensional than they are extraterrestrial beings
than anything, you know what I mean?
So, like I said, sorry I can put this on the main interview
because it just literally clicked back into my mind.
That was like one of the scariest, scariest moments.
Like I said, I've never been scared,
the scared when I got into a fight with someone,
not seeing the shadow figures when I was a kid,
you know, running away from getting a beating from your parents.
None of it, none of it, none of it, none of that, literally.
That was like one of the most terrifying experiences I've ever had in my entire life.
And even though, you know, it's supposedly just sleep paralysis
and it's just your imagination taking over,
is really your imagination taking over or is it something else?
You know what I mean?
That just came to be, you know, so like, Kevin, I'll tell you what?
I don't know if this is comforting to you because I would assume it's not, but I do not think
that that was your imagination. I don't think that that was a dream that you were projecting.
I've talked about it on the show before, that I actually have done that in the past where I
actually projected dreams into where I actually thought when I opened my eyes, I was seeing
something that really wasn't there. But what you experienced and what you're sharing is something
that other people have shared on this show.
Just not too long ago, I think it was episode 78.
We had Ryan coming on and sharing his alien abduction experience that he had throughout his
life long with missing time.
And one of the stories that he shared in there was when he was making like a sandwich
and he got extremely tired.
He just went to his mom's office and collapsed on the couch and just passed out.
And when he woke up, he was essentially paralyzed.
He couldn't move.
and there's these entities
walking up and down the hallway
towards his bedroom and it looked
like they were looking for him
they were these entities
extraterrestrial you want to call
it grays you want to call it demons
whatever you want to call it it seemed like they were looking
for him but he wasn't where
they thought he'd be
where he was yeah I do remember that episode now
right so I do remember it yeah he shares
that experience but then way
back I want to say it was probably episode
30 31 something like
that, I think I called the show, bedroom visitations. David comes on the show and David talks about
him in his bed at night with his wife. He wakes up to having two, it's in the show intro, two great
entities pulling him off his bed. Like he had that happen to him. And so what you just, what you just
described was, is what two other people on this show have described pieces of. I don't know if you
actually were dreaming this. I know that it's not comforting, but I don't know what else to tell you
other than I've heard this before and people who shared this with me before shared it as in
they weren't dreaming. This was a very real experience that they had where they were paralyzed
and something was trying to abduct them. Yeah, that's what I find. That's what I found crazy.
You know what I mean? Like, why was it that specific night that happened? Like I've watched millions of
you know, alien documentaries and slept to them and passed out and never experienced anything
like that or of any sort.
But why was it that, you know, that specific night that it had to happen where I just, you know,
and what are the odds that, you know, how could your imagination cause a bright light right
out of your window to pop out of nowhere?
You know what I mean?
And then boom, three entities popped into the room and try to pull out your leg to take you
somewhere and drag you off the bed.
And like I said, I'm lucky I somehow, you know, broke out of it.
And then, like I said, I woke up and just everything went back to normal.
They disappeared.
The light instantly disappeared.
It sounded like it's faded away or anything like that.
It was just, it was freaky.
I'm telling you, it was genuinely freaky.
And like I said, I've never been that terrified in my entire life of anything that's ever
happened to me.
You know, imagine you experience something like that.
It just freaks you why.
I try to forget about it, but sometimes it just pops out of nowhere when people mention
sleep paralysis and stuff like that.
It just brings back bad memories from that night.
And, you know, I think I've been.
might have experienced one more sleep paralysis after that, but it was nothing like that.
It was a sleep paralysis, but it was a genuine sleep paralysis.
You just woke up and you just couldn't move, but I didn't see anything.
I didn't experience anything scary, and that was really the last time that happened.
So what are the odds that, you know, just that one time my supposed imagination took over and wanted to play a trick on me and, you know,
pop aliens into the room and a light outside the window.
You know what I mean?
So that's pretty creepy, to be honest with you.
you know, I mean, I don't know, but I'm venturing a guess that if this really did happen to you,
that you, what you were watching before you fell asleep, maybe it attracted something.
You know, like people say that when they're messing around with, you know, watching a lot of like horror films or, you know,
they were doing something along the lines of experimenting with some kind of paranormal idea,
than they have an experience.
I wonder if people can attract these experiences to themselves by dabbling in just, you know,
innocent watching of TV shows and things like that.
I don't know, but I've heard people say that.
And it's like, is it a coincidence that you were watching those things and then this happens?
Or is it something that was more sinister, more planned and more intentional?
I don't know.
Exactly, exactly. You know what I mean? That's a good way of putting it because like, like I said, I've watched many documentaries about, you know, whatever you want to call it, aliens and abductions and people's stuff. And I passed out to it. And like perfectly fine. I'll, you know, like, I'll watch a scary movie. It doesn't affect me in any way. I can sleep like a baby. Even when you watch something like scary, like, had nightmares. Like it's very, very, very like, I can probably count the times on my hand that I've had nightmares in my entire life. You know what I mean? It's always good dreams. It's always weird dreams.
but it's nothing sinister where, you know, it's something like demonic, for example,
or alienish or anything like that.
I was genuinely the only time that I've experienced something that had to do with something
sinister like that where, you know, entities popped into your room and tries to drag you
off the bed and take you somewhere, which God knows where that would have been, you know what I mean?
But when I think about it, I'm like, what is the correlation now between the entities and the
saints and God and whatever you want to call it?
Where does that all come into play?
You know what I mean?
That's what drives me crazy the most.
It's like, how's it all related?
You know what I mean?
Is there a correlation there?
Is it good versus evil?
Is that actually true?
You know what I mean?
So like I genuinely don't know.
I really don't know.
A question that probably will never be answered, you know?
Well, it will be answered.
It's just, is it going to be answered on this side of life?
That's the question.
On the side of life. That's true.
That's true.
You know, people, you know, I just got a tweet today and telling me that
that I have too much Christian philosophy or something like that on my show.
I'm like, well, I'm a Christian, so, you know, you get what you put in.
And so, you know, and I told the person I said, if you don't like it, just go listen to
another show.
Exactly.
That's what I was going to tell.
Yeah.
But my point in saying that is, I believe that, you know, there is life after death and that, you know,
our answers are going to be found. And so when it comes to this stuff, on this side of life,
we all have different thoughts and opinions and beliefs. But, you know, one way or another,
we're going to find out, even if there is no God, even if there is no God and this whole thing
is made up, we'll find out because when we die and nothing happens and we wind up turning into
worm food, I guess we got our answer. You know what I mean? So I'm not really concerned about
trying to prove to anybody
one thing or another, we'll all get
our answer sooner or later.
Eventually, exactly. And what
you experienced, man, I think
you might have been
under attack, man. I really
think you might have been under attack, but, you know,
who knows, who knows?
It's true. It's true.
It's true. You know, like,
why that house, you know what I mean? So, like,
it's crazy. It's crazy. Who knows?
Yeah, it is crazy.
But, you know, maybe
one of these days you and I will reconnect on this topic of stuff, but I just wanted to get this
in the episodes so you could share with people that, because I couldn't believe it.
When you started sharing this with me, I was like, dude, what are we doing here?
Like, you should have said this earlier.
Yeah, I thought maybe the shadowing candle was a bit more, you know, creepy, but then I realized
I'm like, oh, crap, I should have talked about my sleep paralysis because who knows what sleep paralysis
actually is, you know, because they still don't have a proper explanation for it until the day,
so, you know?
Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you what, man, I do appreciate you coming on.
And we'll finally end the recording here and end this episode.
But I do really appreciate you coming on and sharing that experience with us.
No worries.
Thank you very much again for the opportunity, Tony.
And if anything ever happens, I'll get back in contact with you if I get any more.
So from many family numbers, anything like that.
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And until next week, friends, stay safe, take care, and remember, the truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off. Bye.
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