The Confessionals - RELOADED | 164: The Bensalem Abduction

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

In Episode 164: The Bensalem Abduction,  Amy joins The Confessionals to tell us about her experience seeing a huge UFO over Bensalem, PA. The problem is, Amy only has parts of her memory from this event, and they seem to come back to her in pieces over the years. Since witnessing the UFO, Amy has had strange things happen to her - like the time someone came into her room and took a video of her while she was sleeping, and also how something in her body began setting off store security alarms! Listen as Amy tries to piece together her story with us on this week's episode! Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSPONSORSGET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tonyGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5GET ExpressVPN: www.expressvpn.com/confessCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaITikTok: @theconfessionalsDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

Merkel Media I guess it's time To go back in time Are you telling me You built a time machine Kind of a Dolorian Time is but a stubborn

Illusion I have a lot of memories Of the past People are time Traveling within them's house Time travel Is possible Welcome to Reloaded Monday

Everybody We have a good one here we have Amy coming back on the show. Amy is the Ben Salem abduction case, and I really found this case really interesting when I did the recording because at the time I was still driving tractor trailer and I was actually running Ben Salem a lot

when she told me this. So it was hitting close to home for me because I was like, she's telling me about an area that this happened that I'm in almost every day for work. So I hope you guys enjoy this reloaded Monday, the Ben Salem Abduction. Okay, I reloaded.

This was all. circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear. one hand, and he's running really fast. It spears, Dan,

holds them up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. First him when he got about... Feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two... And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. It's Bush, and I touch air.

Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move. Because I know I'm seeing a monster. Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email.

My email address is The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. That's The Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either way works for me, just get a hold of me. And if you're interested in having more shows per week, go to the Confessionalspodcast.com and hit the join button and become a member. we put out an extra show every Thursdays for members only. So if you're interested in that, go ahead and check it out. So we got a cool show coming up here for you guys this week. We have

Amy coming on the show. And she's a local woman to me. She's from the Ben Salem area. And I've talked about Ben Salem before on this show. We're talking about it today where I saw a UFO in Ben Salem. And actually, no, I didn't see the UFO in Ben Salem. I read about the UFO in Ben Salem. And I saw the UFO outside of Ben Salem. Anyways, we're bringing Amy on the show. And I'm really, excited about having her talk about her experiences because it's going to be talking about different abduction scenarios she's been through and even things taking video of her with her phone while she's sleeping. Very trippy stuff. I'm really excited about it. But before we get to Amy, we're going to bring on Scott here because Scott and I are working on a collaboration

where we're going to be bringing to you starting today the Confessionals Beard Oil series. So Scott, how are you? I'm doing good, Tony. How are you? Man, I'm doing good. I'm really excited. about these beard oils. When I first started the podcast, I had a huge beard and I did, I was a judge in different competitions. I entered my beard in competitions. I reviewed beard oil and balms and things like that. I was always, in fact, when I started the podcast, I had a huge pile of boxes stacked against my wall in this room right now of products that I was supposed to review. And I never did because I never got around to it. But either way, I was really heavy in the beard game. And I always wanted to have my own beard oils.

And so you contacted me and you're like, hey, man, I got a, I just found out about your, you know, love for beards. And I have a company. And, you know, I'd love to work with you on something. I could send you some product to check out. And I said, yeah, go ahead. Send it over. And, you know, to be honest with you, Scott, after reviewing so many products, you get used

to the fact that most products suck, you know, like most products they do. They suck either it's either they have awful sense, bad marketing. or the quality of the product is bad, you know? So it's like if you have good quality, sometimes the sense suck and the marketing sucks. Maybe the marketing is great, but the quality sucks and the sense sucks. To hit all three is very rare. And so you send me the stuff and like, okay, you know, I didn't think anything of it. I got the package and I think I let it sit for a couple of days because I was like, I'm busy. When I opened that up and I saw the different sense that you had, I was like, holy crap. Like the marketing is.

itself just stood out to me. I mean, it was unbelievable the marketing aspect of these things. So what you sent me were four different scents. One was called Morning Joe. And you designed it to look like a Starbucks logo. And I was like, that's cool. And then there was one that was called the fade, which was like a, you know, barbershop look to it. And then there was the bubble, there was the, what, double trouble bubble gum. I'll tell you what, man. I was really impressed with the marketing aspect of things. I was like, well, he hits the marketing, but we'll see about the scent. When I opened the bubble gum, it's, I was like, I wanted to, I wanted to taste it. Like, that's how good it smelled.

And I was like, holy crap. And I went through these scents and they all smell amazing. Like the morning Joe literally smells like coffee. I was like, holy crap. And so I wanted to ask you, Scott, before we get into the sense that we're going to be launching for the confessionals, how did you get involved in making beard oil? Well, it was kind of a, it's been kind of a long journey, to be honest. I got interested.

I think I found some products on Amazon or something like that. And I've always grown kind of Apache beard, so I was looking for products that would, you know, help fill in some areas and maybe take care of some work that genetics weren't doing. But everything I tried, I don't know, it just didn't work or the scents were all generic and everything smells at a pine tree type thing. And so, I don't know, I just did some research and found out the good carrier oils, the good ingredients and stuff to use and wanted to kind of create something that was a little stepping outside the norm as far as, you know, scent profiles and stuff of that nature does. So it's been about a year and a half now and I don't know, doing well. Absolutely, man. So what the audience is getting through the show is beard oil, three cents, and the cents are Dogman, Sasquatch, and Specter. And I'm telling you, dude, like, I didn't have any doubt in my mind that you'd make a good product with my face on it with the logo.

But when you sent it to me to try, I was blown away. And so my two favorite is Sasquatch and Dogman. Those are my two favorite sense. And when I first smelled them, Sasquatch was my favorite. And then I didn't try Sasquatch on, though. I just smelled it. And then I tried. I actually put the dog man on.

And I was like, oh, this is great. This is my favorite. And then I put the Sasquatch on later. And my wife smiled the Sasquatch on me. And she's like, oh, I really like that. And that became my favorite then. And so, you know, like if the wife likes it, then I love it. So yeah. And so that's the thing. I mean, with these scents, I mean, people that are listening, you're, you're not going to put these on and feel like you just walked out of a dumpster. You know, if you get the Sasquatch, like, it's not like you're just rubbaging through, you know, trash and you're going to smell like a big foot or, you know, dog man. You're not going to. smell like a wet dog walking around the house, you know? So it's more of the names attributed to the

show the most and stuff. But these things smell great. And I'm really excited about it. So if people that are listening that are interested, if you got a beard, you're definitely going to want to try these products. Okay. And there's guys that I know have, you know, big long beards and they're like, oh, I don't put anything in my beard. Well, you're silly then because your wife would really appreciate if you took care of your facial hair because do you wash your hair? Yeah. Do you take care of your hair? Yeah. Well, you should take care of your beard hair as well. And so that's that's my pitch to people whenever I came across people because they're like, oh, why do you review products? I'm like, well, because I have a beard and I use products and they're like, you actually put stuff in your beard. I'm like, yes. It's like asking me,

do I wash my hair? You know, guys, if you got a beard, you're definitely going to want to try these beard oil scents. And ladies, if your man has a beard, definitely buy these for his birthday. Christmas is coming up right around the corner. And if you don't know anybody that has a beard and you don't have a beard, buy it for yourself because I'm telling you, these scents smell so good. Scott, would you say that you could actually take these oils and put them in like an oil burner and have them as a fragrance in the house? So that's what I've been telling people.

Would you back me up on that or no? Yeah, absolutely. I actually, I do it myself from time to time. That's what I'm saying, man. Like, I wouldn't recommend that for all beard oils. But for this, I was like, holy crap, you literally could just have an oil burner and it would make the house smell amazing. And so, you know, even ladies, if you want, grow the hair out on your legs and your armpits and, hey, there you go. I mean, I'm telling you, you're not going to be disappointed.

But I just wanted to, Scott, thank you so much for coming to me and, you know, asking me to be part of this because I'm just, this literally was a dream come true for me. Like, I can't tell you how much I've always wanted. to have my own scent line. And I finally have it. Thanks to you. And I really appreciate it. And I'm really excited about dropping these. So they are on sale right now, October 1st, 2019. So if you want to get a look at the beard oils that we're coming out with, go to the Confessionalspodcast.com, hit the store button and scroll down to the bottom. You'll see the scents right there. And when you click the images to go ahead and purchase your beard oil, it'll redirect you to Scott's website. And Scott, what is your website?

anointed a k.com. AnointedaK.com. And there you'll be able to purchase any of the scents and go ahead and check out the other sense that Scott makes and stuff. But if you're going to buy something off of Scott that's not the confessionals scent, I will hunt you down. So definitely purchase some of these scents that we're coming out with. But Scott, thanks a lot, man.

I really appreciate it. And I'm looking forward to people getting these oils and sending us reviews. Absolutely, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. It's been a fun time putting together, and I really hope everyone enjoy them. Absolutely. So definitely check it out, everybody. And let's get to this week's interview. We have Amy coming up right after this coming Thursday's members' audio trailer. Let's go. I was 10. My mom got pregnant with my sister. And so we got a house in a really, really small apartment. And so we bought a house. when we moved in I wanted to get upstairs but it was a loss at that point

and so spent so much time preparing the bedroom so excited for it that room was always cold and I love the cold so that was another reason

why I love this room well one night I was up I was like 11 we had been there for a year or so it was like 11 or 12 and I was watching TV and I heard this noise.

And it almost sounded like somebody calling a dog like that. And it came from across the room over by my desk. And I had a ton of junk. So I was like, you know, maybe it's just like a timer or a ticker or something, you know, making noise. And so I'm watching TV. I'm not really paying attention. And so finally I'm, you know, ready to go to bed. I turn off the TV and I'm laying there and I can hear the noise.

and it keeps going. And so I'm trying to time it, trying to figure out what it is. You know, if it's a timer, it's on like 10-second intervals or 30-second, whatever. And, you know, I'm trying to go through my mind. What do I have over there that would be making this noise? I can't think of anything. And so anyways, it's just, you know, at that point I had already been, like, experiencing, like, weird things.

I had been having this feeling like something's watching me, you know, I was seeing, like, shadows out of the corner of my eye. My mom just told me, well, if you think that it's something, tell it to go away and be very stern, and it'll listen. So I was like, okay. So I get fed up with it, and I just go, leave me alone, and I turn over on my side. And as soon as I do that, I hear it's in my ear,

and it goes out of that bed, down the stairs, so fast. I don't think I've moved that quickly ever in my life. I was like, I'm just going to sleep on the couch tonight. And so I jump on the couch and I'm like, my curiosity got the better judgment of me. And I looked and I just seen two red dots. It wasn't like, you know, a person's eye was just red, two red blowing dots on the staircase, about halfway looking directly down at me. And I got up and I think I slept on my parents tomorrow.

that night. And I told my mom, I was like, I'm not doing that again. I'm not sleeping up there anymore. I can't. I can't do that again. Like, that scared me so bad that I moved out of the loft that I had been so excited for and I moved downstairs. All right. Today we have Amy on the show. Amy, how you doing? Hi, Tony. I'm well. How are you? Doing well. So you're actually from the area that I'm from and stuff. And you were talking about towns and stuff that I'm very familiar with. And it's just, it's interesting. It's fun to talk to somebody that is from my area because I do this show and I put it out on the internet. I don't know where it's going. I don't know who's listening to it. And, you know, it turns out that there's people in my area that actually listen to my show. I think it's pretty cool. So thank you for

listening to the show. So you emailed us about some things that you've experienced. And I want to tell you, I find it very interesting that the first thing we're going to talk about is this UFO you saw on Ben Sailing because it wasn't too long ago. In fact, this happened last year and I talked about it on the show where I saw a UFO going down the turnpike. You know the turnpike of 276. Yeah. I remember you mentioning that. Yeah. You talked about that on the show. Yeah. Right. I was passing Willow Grove and I see this boomerang shaped UFO. And I've seen it like two or three other times after that initial account. And I remember seeing online, I was reading an article. of UFO settings that happened in Pennsylvania last year. And somebody had talked about seeing a UFO hovering over trees in Ben Salem. And if I remember correctly, he described the same shape that I saw. So I know it wasn't crazy. So go ahead and tell us about what you saw.

Okay. Well, I, this was 2008, 2009, somewhere around there. I was still living down in Ben Salem. And you know at the Parks Casino? You know where that is? Yeah, right off the street road. Okay. Well, my neighborhood was, there's parks and there's some woods, you know, behind it.

And through those woods, then there's my development. It's like, you know, so it was kind of, couldn't see it, but it's through those woods. And I used to, you know, I have a front porch. And that's where I go. Sometimes I have a cigarette, this or that. I loved nighttime. Kids are in bed. That was always my time.

I loved being alone at night. That was mommy's time. I could get things done. And, you know, I, since then, I'll, let me just, since then, for some reason, I don't like nighttime anymore. I don't like to be alone in my house without another adult at nighttime. And I never really thought much about where it came from until somebody started really asking questions. And I said, I'm afraid to have a UFO or an alien counter. and I realized I have a memory and I know it was around that time because I was living down there

and it was right after my husband and I's head split up. I have a memory and I don't, the thing is I don't know whether I never knew if it was real or if it was a dream, but regardless, it affected me emotionally so much that it, you know, it changed everything about me. I'm afraid to, you know, be alone at night. I don't like nighttime. So that kind of makes me feel like. it was real.

And so I have, you know, this memory, it's very quick of I walk out my front door and I look through my neighborhood. You know, my neighborhood's at development, all these little townhouses. There's a lot of kids, a lot of people. But when I open the door, all I see coming over the tree line from where the casino was, and it's low. It's right where the trees end. You know, I mean, this is low, like not much higher than my house. a craft that is so large. You can't eat anything, but it takes up the entire sky.

And it's going slowly. It's like all the sound of the, everything stops. It was just hushed. And I'm standing there and I'm watching this thing. And it's going so, you know, it's going slow, but it's huge. That's all I see. Real slow comes up over, over, my house and all I hear is like a low hum, you know, like a, you know, kind of, but it was like

everything, my whole environment stopped. I felt like I was the only person, and I was the only person I could see, but somehow in my mind, I knew nobody else would be able to see that but me. And although I didn't feel like it was coming there for me, I had just had a sense that I knew that it knew I saw it. Do you know what I mean? Like it was aware that I could see this, even though it wasn't necessarily there for me. I remember seeing when it first came over from the tree line, it was shaped. And it was almost like not maybe like a crescent more like kind like a brownish shape to the front of it. It has some lights on it. I can't really recall. I know there were colors to them, but I can't really recall. It almost. It almost.

felt like when the lights were blinking, you know, like on real foggy nights, you could see lights of where airplanes, it's kind of like hazy, but you know they're there. I knew that, but I can't recall exactly the colors, but then when it comes up, it's all black underneath, like a matte black. And you see, I see little, like, panels and things like that underneath it, like me, you know, little mechanical structures and things like that. Things you see, like, you know, like on a, you know, a battle shit, you know what I mean. bolts and that, and it just goes real slow, and then it just keeps going.

And like I said, it's so big that it takes up the entire sky. I mean, the thing could have been the size of Pennsylvania for all I know. Because I couldn't see, like, from the sides where it began, where it in. I saw the front as it approached from over the trees, from, you know, parks. And that's it. I don't even remember seeing it go away and then seeing sky. but all I remember was it was like my entire, like the time stopped for a second and I was the only one. And I knew that regardless of somebody was even looking outside, somebody else, they wouldn't have seen it.

And for whatever reason, it just terrified me. But I really have, I'm not 100% certain if it was just a clip of a dream that I happened to remember or if it was real. But I really do feel like, because it affected me and it told us. day it affects me emotionally i i think may i'm pretty sure it was real so then i'm listening to your podcast i started listening to your podcast um so somehow i stumbled upon it because i was looking something about black-eyed children in it you know google searches and a center but i started listening to your podcast and i really liked it and you had an episode i think it was um 78 since i think the guys name may have been ryan i'm not really sure but he had a abducted with lost time yeah yeah i'm

listening to that. I'm up in my husband I have turned back door for, and he talks about an event where he was working in Hershey. And it was like, I'm like, oh, that's about, that's what I saw. That's, that sounds like what I saw. And then I realized, wait, I actually, like, replayed it to see when he said it was. I'm like, that's about the same time. And he even said, like, the direction that it headed. It was almost like it, that would be the direction from Hershey to Ben Thaler. And I'm thinking, oh, my God, I think I saw that too. You know, it was just really, weird. So that's what kind of sparked me to like, oh, I should, you know, shoot him an email and let them know. So, yeah, I mean, and until this day, I, when I'm home alone with my six-year-old son and it's nighttime, I can't go downstairs or anything. I have to be upstairs in the bedroom, but him when his bedtime, it's my bedtime, because I'm scared unless there's another adult in the house. And it just scares me. I'm scared to have some type of encounter, I think. Yeah, well, I mean, everything that you're saying, it lines up,

with, because when you were talking about that, I was thinking about Ryan's experience and stuff. And it's a very common thing. A lot of the things that you were describing with the humming, the Matt Black, and the idea that you keep saying that you feel like you don't think you dreamt it, but like you have this memory. What are your thoughts on the idea of being abducted? Because it seems like you don't ever remember seeing it leave. It seems like there is a gap of time. Oh my gosh. Now you give me. To be honest, I never considered that. Never. And I think that it's that, and I do, now that you say it, of course, I think it is a possibility. And maybe that's why it has me traumatized to that level. I mean, I've had scary dreams before, Tony. I mean, all kinds. I used to have such crazy dreams. People wouldn't believe me when I'd tell them about them because they were so, you know, wild. Nothing has trauma, like, nothing has shook me like that. I mean, this is years ago. And it is. That's a possibility. But I honestly. never really thought of it.

And, yeah, and if it was something that happened, I don't want to know anything about it. I wanted to stay in my subconscious. I don't ever want to have to relive it. Yeah, I can understand that. I mean, some people want to go through regression therapy to, you know, draw those memories out. And some people are like, ah, they can just stay where they're at because I don't want to know. In fact, I think Ryan said the same thing on his show where, like, he, I don't think

he wanted to remember some of the things that he went through because the memories he had were crazy enough. I'm not telling you you were abducted. That's what I want to make sure that I'm not telling you that. I'm just saying some of the things that you're describing are a lot of symptoms that people say they have when they were abducted. And, you know, the idea that you don't remember anything is a common thing. And there's the idea that taking whatever happens, happens, and then you're put back in the same place of time and you don't really remember anything and you don't remember seeing the craft leave. But there are a lot of sightings of UFOs in that area, Ben Salem, Willow Grove, Croydon. And there's the old Horsham Air Force Base.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that, and I have this, I have no, no, nothing to back this up other than just this suspicion. I've been on the Air Force Base twice and for two different companies that I drove for. And the very first time I went on the Air Force Base, I was doing a delivery, and this is before I did the show, before I was in the community of paranormal and all that stuff. And I remember having, I was moving equipment off the, off the base because the base was closed for a long time. And yet they were saying they were closing the base. And I was like, okay. And so we're pulling out like, copying machines and stuff out of these buildings. And I remember asking, because there's officers on the base still. And there, there's areas of the

base that it looked like they were still working. Yeah, yeah. And it did. It had for a long time, almost the whole time that I lived down there because my ex-husband works for Comcast and the office he worked out of was literally like right near there. They have that little capsule thing, right, where the early astronauts would learn anti-gravity that's like still on that property. Isn't it?

Yes. Okay. So, so yeah, continue. It's one of those things where I was in my early 20s and I just, I remember thinking there, this seems like they're not. done here, but it just, and I didn't even think of it in my head, like in a cohesive thought. It was just, I had this feeling like they were doing things here still that, you know, maybe they're not letting, letting you know about. I just had this weird feeling. And if,

if there were crafts, like say that, say they have this, you know, grand conspiracy of, you know, these secret crafts that they, they have on the, on the base, it'd have to be underground because I've seen the buildings on that on that property. It's not a big base at all. No, it's not. And the property itself is surrounded by tons of industry, tons of homes. And so if there is something going on there, it'd have to be underground. And the exit would have to be not on that property itself. It'd have to be somewhere else. And, yeah. Yeah. You know, I used to, I was always a skywatcher and always being interested in.

And I used to constantly, my kids would always make fun of me. I'd be driving at night and I'd be a little son to start chasing something. That's it. It's a UFO guy. It would be a helicopter. It sounds like this joke at my family. But I would constantly call my ex-husband telling him, I swear I see it because McGuire Air Force Base, although it's in New Jersey,

you know, it's very close. And that's heavy traffic, at least it was back then. And I would see interesting things in the sky all the time. And my ex-husband is a Navy veteran. So I would constantly But this thing, it took off straight in the air That it sprung winged And he was like, oh, you saw a blah blah blah

Whatever would be And he would always laugh at me But when I had this experience I don't think I ever told anybody You know, I don't think In fact, I don't think I really remembered it right away I didn't really remember it So people were digging into

Why are you so scared of the dark now? Yeah, and that goes against your character Because over to your life you've always been jumping to tell people what you've seen. And, you know, if you would have saw something like that, you would have been telling the world. You've been on Fox 29 news, you know? Exactly. And I did not, I don't know why. I did. I don't even say it wasn't like I woke up the next day and said, wow, was that a drink? I don't even remember how long it took me to remember it. And they only remember the time period because I have a really good memory like that about time and

and this and that. But I just felt like because I had moved not long after. I knew what was going on. I knew who my neighbors were, you know what I mean? I remember those kind of details. I know, you know what I mean? It was right when I split up with my husband, but I didn't remember it right away. Yeah, but I just know it took me some thinking into thinking about why I am because I loved that time. I mean, I was that one, I was like, why are you always up at 4.30 in the morning to take it? I was like, only time to clean with all I have five kids.

It's the only time I could get at me off because they're asleep. I couldn't wait for them to go to bed. And yeah, and I mean, until this day, and when it's nighttime, if there's not another grown-up here, I am like, okay, Andrew, time for bed, flicked the lights off, I'm running upstairs, and I will not go back downstairs. I'm always begging my friends to come over and hang out with me, because I'm scared.

Yeah. So, yeah, it's really affected me, and I never really considered the whole abduction thing. Thanks, Tony. Well, I mean, just kidding. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. I wouldn't sweat it, but, you know, if you feel like diving into things and stuff,

I mean, I would direct you into looking at other people's experiences that were abducted and see if anything lines up with you. And just the fair warning, by doing that, it really, really, really could jog memory if it did happen. So you may not want to do that. I don't want to have that memory either. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to remember it because all the other things I've experienced in my life, they never really frightened me or rattled me, traumatized me, but this did.

And I remember even as a little girl, like, you know, my mom and stuff would say, stop watching these things or talking about these things because that day you invite you invite it to yourself then and you know what I mean if that were they it's like wow I really did you know just by my interest in it I mean I'm kind of terrified of space and the thought of space overwhelms me I like I like astronomy and I always have love telescopes but the whole certain you know the traveling in space I mean I'm terrified of heights that movie contact yeah it's that That made me very, it was weird. It really shook me up inside a little bit. I would never want to go to say. I'm not, but I'm not interested in that way. I just am interested in other, you know,

paranormal, paranormal things because I think all things are possible. But, you know, certain things like aliens, other life, other, like go to other planets. Oh, hell no, no, no. Yeah, I would just say, stay away from it then. It's kind of like the movie Independence Day with Will Smith,

the drunk dad. He's like, we got to get as far away from these things as we can. And that's exactly what you need to do. Just get away from it. Yeah, I want nothing to do with that. And it's about my boyfriend. His friends are such jerks because they'll call me real late at night.

And because they're like, oh, or late shift people. And they'll be like, hey, Amy, aliens and hang up. I'm like, you jerk. Like, you know what he mean. Leave me alone. Wow. Block them. Block them now.

Yeah. So, yeah, that was that story. Yeah. And let's get into this other thing. Before we jump into the Hatman experience, I want you to share with people this really weird, bizarre video that happened with your phone. Okay. So, you know, I'm binge watching or binge listening to, you know, the confessional, like a lot of people do. And about the time that I had emailed you.

And I'm talking, you know, I'm telling friends about it. I was talking about my boyfriend about it. You know, because I was like, what are you listening to? And it was just so strange. I had a friend over, and I'm telling her about it, and it was weird. I got a phone call from a number I didn't know, so I didn't answer it. I put it in a caller ID, and it was somebody with the last name Merkel, which I just thought was weird. Odd coincidence, but even weirder that later on that night, I went to bed, and it was just me and my son that night, my boyfriend's at work.

and so I fall asleep listening to, you know, I put it, you know, the confessionals, I'll put it on play. And I know with iTunes, when you play and an episode ends, then it just continues on to the next one. But I usually, I fall asleep quickly. I don't, you know, I usually fall asleep within like maybe 15 minutes into an episode. So like the next hour you should go back and, you know, listen to. I like to hear sound when I go to bed. And so that night I go to sleep with my son and I didn't refresh my memory of all the details about time and all this, but you had it in the email. I wake up the next, oh, when I go to sleep, I have a nightstand.

It's got two tiers on it. And what I always do is I prop my phone. I have an iPhone. I kind of prop it up on something on the second tier because then the phone is right near my ear kind of. So I don't have to put it too loud. It won't wake up my son. And so I have it all propped up. but I kind of have to strategically place it so it doesn't, because it'll tip and fall easily.

So I wake up the next morning, my phone's right where it usually is. And the first thing I do, you know, you check your messages, this, that, and the third. And I saw that I had a text that I sent to my daughter. I have a 21-year-old daughter who lives down, you know, in Philly. She's in college at Temple. And I go, I look at the time, and the time, and the time, the text is, I don't know,

do you remember Tony, if you have the email, I don't, like I said, I said, I didn't refresh my memory real quickly before you call,

but, uh, it was the middle of the night. Yeah, I think it was at 1.19 a.m. Yeah, yeah. I was,

I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, so I looked at this text and it's a video,

a text that I apparently sent my daughter at one, I play it, it's dark, But all it is is me, you can hear me sleeping. Breathing, I breathe real heavy when I sleep. And I forget how long it was, maybe 30 seconds, something like that. And I was so freaked out because, first of all, my phone, you know, the way it is, you know, how, you know, I don't everybody, a lot of us have iPhones.

You know, when I play my, it's locked, this and that. So, and this wasn't a video that was sent like when you're composing a text, and then you just hit the camera thing, and you send a quick video, and you include it in this text. This was a video that was sent from my camera. So in order for this video, my phone would have had to be unlocked, you know, go to the camera app, record, and switch to the text app, added into a text and hit send, put it back to my iTunes lock, and put my phone back

exactly where it is propped up real strategic. Furthermore, how could I have even done that in my sleep? Because I'm sleeping in the video. And I did send the video, right, Tony? Like, you can hear me clearly. Like, I almost sound like I'm on the verge of snoring. Or maybe I am sorry. I can't quite remember.

I think, I mean, you hear it in the video, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So it's like, because it couldn't even be something where, oh, well, you know, you maybe did it in your sleep. How could I do it in my sleep? You hear that I'm sleeping. There's no noise in the background at all.

I don't hear anything. I don't hear any movement. Nothing. And, yeah, I cannot tell you how that could have happened. Nope, but my husband, my boyfriend, he works nice, he's not home until the morning. It's just me and my six-year-old son who's in bed with me, and he wouldn't know how to do that, nor would that phone end up back where it was, exactly where it was when I went to sleep. But even weirder is when I was emailing you about it and I wanted to send, like I sent you the video and then I was sending you, like, time stamps just that I realized that I knew what I knew what I was listening to when I fell asleep. And when you do the hours, you know, when I fell asleep,

as to this, you know, this episode of the Confessionals is this long and this. The episode that was playing at 119 in the morning was called bedroom visitors. Or bedroom visitation, something like that, right? Yeah. Really. I mean, do you know that I think that's the one episode that I haven't been able to listen to? I haven't listened to that one. Yeah.

Because I'm so freaked out by that. I'm so... Yeah, when I showed that to my boyfriend, he... I mean, he was like, you know, you better be putting that gun into the matches before you go to bed. I was like, at Phil, nobody's got... Nobody got in here. Like, yeah, it's really pretty freaky.

Nothing like that's happened since, thank God, but that was really strange. Yeah, there's... I mean, it's obviously at least, at the very least, it's a weird synchronicity, right? that that video or not video that episode is about alien entities coming into a bedroom and pulling a guy off his bed yeah I'm literally have chills right now yeah oh my god and now I know I did I couldn't bring myself so much into it after that happened now I was like I don't want to hear this episode because it was just really strange oh my god let me tell you you've heard the and where the guy says there was two gray entities and they were pulling me off my bed.

That's that episode. Oh, my God. Now, David, I don't think David believes that they were necessarily aliens. I think he falls in line with, it was more demonic than anything. But what he saw was what you would describe as a gray. So, yeah, maybe, maybe you don't want to listen to that episode. No, no. did you ever see that or hear those clips that where people do that people who suspect they've been

abducted and they put recorders on when they're sleeping yeah i can't listen to those those are so freaky and i always think to myself that and i've thought this before that happened that would be the scariest thing to ever happen to me is for me to ever somehow sit and listen to what goes on when you sleep i don't want to know who knows and i'm not even talking about paranormal i mean There's other things. Who knows? What if you get like critters in your room or something? I don't want to know when you're sleeping you're sleeping.

And I always said I don't want to, that would be like I would never put a sleep recorder on. And it was just so weird that that happened. And it's interesting. Why did it get sent to my daughter, which I think is really weird? I mean, we know, she's a costume. We don't text all too much. I mean, you know, she's very busy with work and school and she's getting ready to finish. And, you know, it's just weird.

And you know, was the other thing. She's never mentioned it. I never asked her. Did you get, I never asked her about it because I really didn't want to. But yeah, I don't know why it went to my daughter. So you never talked to your daughter about it? No, no. She's not the open-minded person like that.

She's not, she's very much like her father. She's very, very literal, very, you know, she's not, she's an Aries. That's what I have to say. She's not the one who would, she would be get annoyed if I, I would talk anything paranormal with her. And I was really so shook up by it. I really did. For some of it,

I just didn't want to ask her. Like, she never responded. She doesn't have her red receipts on, so I really, you know, I wouldn't know. But like,

she, it's not unusual for her not to respond. Like I said, she's extremely busy. If anything, she would get annoyed. Why are you texting me at 1 o'clock in the morning?

So I never really asked her, and maybe there's more too subconscious reason why I didn't want to ask her about it. I don't know. I just never brought it up to her. and I just, but it was odd that it went to my daughter. Absolutely. And it's just weird considering the experience you had with the, the UFO that you saw in Ben Salem and then,

uh, that happening. And the, the follow up episode obviously is weird. And what, what I find very weird though is the fact that it was, it was like somebody grabbed your phone and filmed you and then sent it your daughter.

Like, and that's why I feel like, now that you're talking about it, And you're bringing up the whole tie-in with the UFO and what that episode was about. I'm thinking that maybe that weird phone call, that wrong number phone call, wasn't that much of a coincidence either. Yeah, I mean. Because this was all when I started, this all happened within 24 hours of me hearing that episode, that episode 78. So it's like, you know, I'm thinking about it.

Like, oh, I got it. You know, and so it's on my mind. I'm bringing it into my everyday, you know, consciousness, you know. And I get this, you know, it's a phone number from, like, I had told you, it's a newer area code to the Strasbourg area. So it's not many people have that, but not that big of a deal, but I don't answer numbers. I don't know. So I put it in the caller ID and it says, Jay Merkel. And I'm like, that's weird because Merkel's not that, at least, you know, you know, but I just start listening to your thing.

And I'm talking about you to everybody. Then I go to sleep that night. Yeah, that's. Yeah. And the reason why earlier I asked you. Oh, my God. Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. I'm sorry, Darry Rupert, but I just thought about something that happened two summers ago, and I'm not kidding you.

I was just talking to a friend about this. I had a problem where all summer long, I was setting off security alarms in and out of every place I went. And we spent, like, every variable. No, not new braves, not new. I was doing everything I could. I couldn't go anywhere because I was setting alarms off. I went to the Michael Cores outlet and I said, is there something, you know,

they looked at me like I had two heads. I said, no, you don't understand. Like, well, let me look at your wallet. Sometimes if there's security bags, no, no, no, no. Finally, when I went to leave, the lady said, hold on a second. She took my bag. She threw them through the little thing when you walk out. Nothing went off.

She said, I walked through. I walked through, boom, blah, blah. I'm like, see? I had a friend, at this time, I have a friend who had an RF scanner, like a detector. And we're up at his house one night. I was asleep in my boyfriend's truck with the seat reclined. He didn't know I was in his truck because they were just, they meant, they were talking outside.

They're both like avid hunters and this and that. They're both outside. My boyfriend had had this issue with the police. We won't get into that. But he took his scanner because you're like, maybe they put something on your truck. It kept going off. I'm asleep at this time. I don't know it.

And they couldn't figure out why. I didn't know I was asleep in the truck with the feedback. So that, you know, that being that, but then we're talking. talking about it a couple days later, sitting in his garage, he takes off the RF scanner, goes around the garage, there's three of us in there, goes to me, right at my stomach is where it kept going off. I even thought that I have an IUD. I call my doctor. That is entirely plastic amy and it couldn't possibly be your IUD. And it kept going off right up my stomach. And then all of a sudden, you know, I spent a whole summer going crazy trying to figure out

why I'm just, I'm shedding things off. And then all of a sudden, boom, it went away. It doesn't do it anymore. You're freaking me out. I feel like I had an alien because I started joking when I was at the outlet talking to people like, you know, workers, because I want to figure out why I can't even go in and out of Turkey Hill without these things going off. Like, and the one girl, I said, I was thinking of an alien implant. I said it as a joke, but the one girl goes, I was actually going to say that. Yeah. And then it went away. Like that, it was gone. It stopped doing it. How long a period did this last? It was like, it probably, it was pretty much like,

late spring all through the summer, probably, like I would say maybe from May through August, something like that, yeah. And then all of a sudden I just like, stop doing it. But when we told him when we were in my friend's garage, we started talking about it because he then, I was in my car then one time earlier that night. We were in my Audi, and he started scanning my car, and I'm sitting in a driver's seat, and we just kept going off near the driver's seat. And he goes, oh, you must have your antenna here.

In the side of my, I have an aftermarket system. I said, no, my head unit, I have no antenna hooked up in my car. And that's weird. And that's when I said, I think it's me. And then we went in and we started talking. I said, I was in his truck sleeping the other night when it was going off in his truck. He's like, are you kidding me? You know?

And then he took it out and it kept going off right at my stomach. And there were like three, four other people in that garage to witness it. And I'm like, I'm not joking here, guys. Something's inside. Like, I don't know if I swallowed something accidentally, you know, I couldn't figure it out. I didn't put too much. I just thought it was weird and kind of funny. And then it just, one day I realized, oh, I'm not setting off alarms anymore.

You know, I, do you want me to talk to you openly or do you want me to protect what I say to you? Because I don't want to freak you out. No, no, you can talk to me openly. It's fine. All right. So I don't know how to describe this other than implant. is something that I'm concerned about here because, you know, back in, I think it was like the early 50s, mid-50s, maybe the 60s. I can't remember what the movie was called, but it's like one of the

first movies that was about like alien invasions and implants and things like that. And I think this is where the idea came from, but I don't know if it's held up through, you know, people's real life stories. But in the movie, I think, the implants that were being put into people were like these little needles. And they were often put in people's necks and stomachs. And I know that I've heard people having implants in their arms, their legs, but also the stomach. And it just makes me wonder if, this is a big if I'm not saying you have an implant, I'm not saying you were abducted, but if there was an abduction scenario and you were implanted, obviously there's technology involved that, you know, is beyond our comprehension

at times. Right. And is it possible that there's an implant that is activated at times? And that's a sign of the activation where you're actually setting off these alarms. I see what you mean. I see what you. Yeah. And maybe they just, that they activate it when they need to follow you or for whatever

its purposes. And then maybe, you know, there's times where they're not interested in you or whatever. and it's put on hibernate, so to speak. Was there anything different or that stands out in your memory during that time when you were setting off these security systems and stuff? Was there anything that you noticed different about life? Was there anything that was kind of standing out as peculiar? No, I don't think so. I really don't.

It was actually a pretty nice summer, to be honest. I don't really recall anything. I don't recall any serious mood changes or... wounds, unexplained wounds or things like that. You know, that, you know,

it's just, it was just, it was just strange. It wasn't long after we moved up here to Monroe County. We moved up here in November. And so like I said, this happened right

the following spring. And, yeah, I noticed it at Turkey Hill because I was like, because you don't really hear the alarms there very often. And I think they only have them

for like the different, like, cell phone chargers and things like that that they sell. Not many people buy them. They're so expensive. there. And I just, you know, I'm like, why? I keep setting this thing off in Turkey Hill, you know? And like I said, we eliminated every variable over like a month's time as to what it could possibly be.

Was it every time that you went into a store? Pretty much, pretty much. In or out. And it was really bad up at the Tandersville outlets. I mean, every store. And I mean, and there, it's an outlet. There's a lot of theft. So they'll hold you. I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't know what it is. it's, and like I told you that at the Michael core store they threw my bags first through and I walked through and the thing starts going crazy. I said, see? I told you because I was trying to figure it out. I was asking them like, you know, there's some stores that wouldn't go off on,

but like a lot of stores it did and it's odd that going in and out it would go off. And just like that, it just stopped. It went away. But it was when he, my friend got that RF scanner out or detector out and it was going off in that garage right at my gut, like right below my belly button, and everybody's looking like, oh, my God, like, what's going on? I thought maybe I swallowing, you know, sometimes you swallow things somehow, and it'd take a while if I digest.

Maybe I got some kind of weird metal in me, or who knows, I didn't really, it wasn't that, to me, it was just odd, and I didn't really get that stressed out or anything over it. I just thought it was odd. Well, yeah, it's definitely odd. Then just when you look at putting things together in a timeline sake, the first thing that you remember is the UFO, but you don't remember seeing it leave. And the way you described it, it does sound like there's time loss. And then...

Yeah. Like Ryan, like that Ryan had like those time slips. And, you know, I hope that he hears this. I hope that he hears just as something he knows that there's confirmation. Yeah, that's to his story. Because as soon as I heard that, I was like, wow, that's what I saw. Because I never heard too many UFO stories about something. being that large where it took up the entire sky. And it was so low, low, like right up, not far above

my roof. Right. And so you have that happen. And then the next thing is this weird video where I'm just going to say somebody, other than you, took that video and sent it to your daughter. And earlier that night you had Jay Merkel call you. And the reason why I asked you when we were first talking what the area code was is because my brother is Jack. And I wanted to just see if there was a synchronicity there because he runs around the entire side of the state with his company. He has a pest control company. And I just wanted to see if there was any connection there. But then you have that video happen after the phone call. And then you have the next up episode is bedroom visitations, which the subject of that show is weird because you had you had something

happened in your room. And I didn't even know what it was. I didn't tell you just told me. And with the background of the UFO sighting and the possible deduction. And now you're setting off alarms. And if I just... Well, that was back in 2017, but like I'm saying, yeah, it does all fit into the whole idea. Right.

But when I'm describing this, I'm setting it in the right timeline, right? Like, everything happened in this order, right? Well, oh, no, but just the setting off the alarm thing, that was in 2017. That was like May, like I said, like May to August 2017 is when that was happening. But the, seeing the UFO memory from from Salem, that was like 2008, 2009. Okay. I just did a quick Google search. I just typed in Alien Inplant sets off security alarms. And there are a couple forums that read, I set off storage systems off. I keep setting off shop anti-f theft alarms,

setting off security alarms. So I didn't read any of these, but it looks like there's other people with possible same situations. And I don't know if it's, you know, abduction related or what? I haven't read these yet. But it might be something for, no, never mind.

You don't want to look into it. So I'll look into it. Well, you know, my boyfriend used to tell me, when we first, we started dating in 2014 Gene. And he used to tell me how, like, at night, it used to scare him when we'd sleep. Because apparently, when I would sleep, I would twitch so bad, like jump, like twitch, that he started thinking something was really wrong with me, like medically. And he said, you know, you see people twitch when they sleep. That's normal. But he said, Amy, you don't understand what you do when you sleep. And I could, he's like, it's almost like it's an electrical thing. Like, they said, I've never seen. anything like it.

Sometimes you do it all night. And it actually made him worried. He didn't know what was going on with me. He thought, you know, do you take any medication of what is going? I was like, I don't know. I'm not aware of it at all. And it was like for the first year that we were dating that he said, I used to do that. And it used to, he would be scared to go to sleep because me twitching would, like,

startle him and then it would scare him and it would stay up all night worrying. Like, oh, my God, look at her. What's wrong with her? And he said, I don't do that anymore. But that's not kind of odd, too. All right. So let me ask you a question. I just saw this. The night that the video was shot of you, you said you went to bed around 10 o'clock, right? 10, 10, 30, something like that. Yeah, I know. I was, I know I was saw and wood by 1030. I know that.

And earlier you said that you tend to be up late at night because the kids are in bed and you can do things and it's relaxing. Well, that's when that's before the 2008, 2009, when I had that memory of the thing. But this was back in the day, like, you know, before I moved up here, when I lived down and been to sail, before I had that. experience with that craft, that vision, that memory, I used to love the nighttime. It shouldn't then that I don't, I'm really, if it's nighttime, I want another adult in the house. Like, when I was telling my friend that night, I had a friend here, doing that she left is when I went to bed. When you went to bed that night, did you, was that like a normal time frame for you to go to bed at or were you, like, feeling extra tired? Yeah, it was pretty, it was pretty normal. I know,

I think it was weekend. And so my son didn't have school because I remember, you know, not being too concerned that he was up a little bit later. And we were only up a little bit later because my, you know, my girlfriend was here. She was getting ready to live in Florida. So she was just kind of here saying goodbye. And we were just chatting for a while. But I remember my eyes getting heavy because I'm used to going to bed really early when my son goes to bed because I just go to bed because I don't like being here at night by myself. So I just go to sleep. But it was a normal bed routine too. You know what I mean? She left, got into bed, you know, set up the podcast. And I know I I don't know I fell asleep right away.

I think it was the Border Patrol agent episode is what I had turned on. And I even sent you the proof, like, and the iTunes things, it'll tell you when you played, when you listened to them, what the hours were. Just to show, like, that's what I was listening to. And then if you follow along, you'll see that at 11 bedroom visitations was the one that was playing. Yeah. I wasn't aware of it because I was sound asleep. I remember getting up at like 4.30 in the morning to go to the bathroom.

And that's normal. I always get up at some point in the middle of the night, go to the bathroom. and I'll get back in bed. The podcast will always still be running, but I turned them off then, and I just go right back to sleep, but I always fall asleep listening to them. Yeah, the title was The Confessions of a Federal officer.

Yeah, and that's the one I probably, I probably saw 10 minutes with to it, and then that was that. So I got up to go to the bathroom, turned it off, didn't take anything of it, you know, and woke up and, you know, right where my phone always is right there because I always, I want to keep it there

because I don't like to keep it too loud, and I always like my alarm to go off in the morning, if it's a weekend or not. And I mean, when I woke up, it was right there where always that's where I always keep it. But like, it's going to be pretty hard in your sleep to take it to all those, you know, unlock. Go to this app. Go to this app. Go to this app. Compose a text. Insert this. Send it like, now that's not something's going on in my sleep. Right. And, you know, it's funny because it, that's a lot of process to go through. Yeah. Yeah. To send in your sleep. I would, I will tell you this. Maybe it'll give you a little

bit of sense of security, even though I don't think this is probably not, this probably isn't what happened with you. I don't think you did this. When I was in college, I would text my wife in my sleep and I would text her these long, bizarre text messages that just kind of ramble on about nothing. And I would send it to her in the middle of night and it was frequent for a while where I was just texting her in my sleep. And it didn't make any sense. It would be like, I miss my dad and, you know, the car flipped over and. But you don't really remember. doing it. No.

She'd be like, why did you text me that weird message last night? I'm like, what message? And I'd look at my phone. I'm like, I don't remember texting you at all. My friend used to do that. She used this drunk text people and they were bad. And I mean, it was like, I'd be like, oh, my God, listen to these things. They're saying, you know, you're a grown adult now.

But then she, I remember her saying to me, Amy, now my drunk self is getting smart enough to delete the text before I fall asleep that I don't even know they're there in morning. But yeah, yeah, no people do you do that. I mean, was my daughter the last person in my text log? No, she wasn't. I mean, she was pretty far down, too. So it's like it was intense. Yeah.

I don't like thinking about it much because it's just so weird. It's so freaky. And to look on my boyfriend's face because he really doesn't get into that kind of thinking about things. He's real cut and dry, you know, black or white, and he doesn't really think into things. And he looks scared because he's like, Like, what? Because he knew. I couldn't have done that myself. He knows nobody was here, but me, I'm a six-year-old. You know, if I were you, I would talk to your daughter at some point. I really would. And bring it up because I'm just saying, like, there might be some clues there. Maybe she's had experiences. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe there's something telling you that she's next or maybe she had some experiences that night that kind of that video all of a sudden made sense to her. And if she's, you know,

told you what she experienced me like, oh my gosh, that all fits together now. And you know, of all the paranormal things, the alien UFO ones, the one that terrifies me, why did that have to be the one to introduce itself to my life and not Bigfoot or something like that? Well, I'll tell you what, you're up there in the Poconos. Bigfoot is up there. Oh, you know, I wish I would have thought and didn't lose track of time because I have a picture that my sister's friend pose, and she lives in a Kunkle town where I live one, one winner.

she's not into, she doesn't, she works for school districts, so she's very careful about what she's put on social media. But she just said, I'm just going to leave this picture here for y'all, Dorgas now. And I was like, oh, my God, that's a fast watch. And often I thought, this was right after I moved here. And a lot of people said, oh, yeah, they're up here. Oh, better believe it. They're up here. But I've never seen one.

She took the picture? Yeah, uh-huh. I can send it to you after when we're not on the phone because I can't do it as we're on the film, but I'll send it to you. And the footprint, she found the next that night on her porch and I guess it was like the back portion. realize she goes, look, they were up on my porch. Big giant footprints in the snow on her porch. It was right after we had a first huge, bad snowstorm after I had moved to Conkletown. And I was like, whoa. Wow. If you could please send me those pictures. I would be, it's not a real clear picture, but when you look at it, you know, it can't be anything else. Like, it's pretty obvious. Then you see

the footprints. But I don't think it's be something that you could put on TV and people are like, that's great evidence. But you'll see. You'll be like, yeah, that's a, I forget. I forget what comedian said this, but he's like, maybe Bigfoot's just blurry, and that's why we always have blurry pictures of Bigfoot. He could be. Hey, could be. Could be. But, uh...

Yeah, it's interesting. But I'm, I would love to spot. We're not up close, but I would love to, but no, the aliens have to come to me. Jesus, just my luck. Yeah, of course. Well, listen, we could ramble on and on about this experience because there's so many different levels to it. And, right.

And I would love to just kind of talk. back and forth about this because I feel like the more I talk to you, the more details I'm uncovering. But I just don't, I don't know where we're going to go with it. But I think that this is something that you and I could definitely keep in touch about because I, if you have any new information, I would love to hear about it. But let's move into this Hatman experience. Okay. So this is, you know, another week or so path, you know, me, this initial contact with you, blah, blah, blah. I'm still binge listening. And I was listening. to an episode where you were talking about how you were listening to something in the car with

your wife and that, whatever you were listening to, sparked her memory that she had experienced a hatman when she was little. And it wasn't even until mostly through this episode, I realized, oh, my God. Me too. So here's what it is. Okay. So growing up, my dad is from the South. and his whole family lives in Florida or Georgia. And as a child, we often would go down, you know, my great-grandmother had a very, I don't want to say too much because I don't want to respect my dad's privacy, his family's privacy. But they're very wealthy to have an estate in the middle of an arch grove.

And it's an old Spanish-style architecture. It's very open, breezeways, this, that, and they're huge. And even when you're a little child, it's a little child, it's a little, He was even much more grand than it is. My dad's family, of course, you know, we didn't know them as well as my mom, did know them well at all because we didn't see them very often. And they're a little more stuffy, not very warm. And so one, it was Christmas, I think I was three years old. Three, I was almost four.

So it was Christmas, and we spent Christmas in Florida instead of at home because we went on a cruise, some Caribbean cruise for Christmas. but we spent almost like the whole Christmas break in Florida at the family estate, my great-grandmothers. And I remember it was an evening where it was just myself, my sister, who's a little older than me, and my mother, my dad, my great-grandmother, his brother, the rest of the family had gone out to some dinner or something. Everybody was out of the house. And it was just the three of us in the house, and, like, they're made. and like I said there's a lot of hallways a breezeway is all through the outside and this house is like a maze

to a little three-year-old girl. I remember that we were in the guest room and my mom was wrapping Christmas president. She was actually teaching myself, my sister and I had to wrap presents properly and I got bored. So I kind of started wandering right out into the hallway. I feel like I was on some type of like little scooter

or something they must have had like a little toy thing that I was playing on. And I remember going out of the door and looking to my left down, you know, it's a pretty long hallway. And at the end of the hallway, I see a very, very tall man. Now, all of my, all the Putnam's are extremely tall. So that wasn't even odd to me because my dad was 6'4. I'm 5'9, his brother's 6'4, you know, very tall people.

But it was so, it was dark because it was evening. In fact, I think my mom was watching the Carol Burnett show, if I recall correctly. So it's dark, but there's a lot, still light, like in the hallway a little bit loom. from, you know, different lights, like in rooms that, you know. But I see a very, very tall man, but the thing was I noticed that he was dressed very formally. And knowing that my family was going out to a dinner, that didn't even seem that odd to me. I thought it was my grandfather. He would, I saw very, very tall, top hat, formal top hat, like an Abraham Lincoln hat.

No details, no facial facial, because it's just black, like a shadow. but even a person kind of would have been a shadow at this point because it's end of a dark hallway. I remember a long, you know, like a cape kind of, you know, slacks, like pants, like, you know, it was almost as if the person was wearing, like, had been dressed in a tuxedo for like something, you know, with top hat and all that. But you can't see the details, just the outline of it. And I remember I turned to the left. I saw this present. It was walking, you know, I saw it to the side.

but it stopped when I stopped, turned to my direction. So now it's looking forward. And I, you know, you only know this by the silhouette. And I turned back to the room. And I said, Mommy, why is grandfather George here? Because I thought he was supposed to be out of dinner. They left hours ago. And she's like, he's not here.

I said, well, who is that? Now, my great-grandmother, apparently had, she had a couple husbands throughout her time. And she had a husband that way before we were born. And I don't know who he was. I forget his name now, but he was a fisherman or some love the sea. He was always on the sea and they called him the captain. I don't want to say what his first name was, but captain insert first name. And there was a room in the house that was always locked.

It was called the captain's room. You couldn't go in it. And everybody would tell stories that the captain would, his spirit was in this, you know, estate. But the captain was like more of a beach bum kind of guy, you know, dressed in jeans, never had, you know, bare feet all the time. He was like a Key Largo kind of, you know what I mean? When you think of like Key West, that kind of person. He wouldn't have been dressed like that.

But like, I think my mom hearing that I'm seeing something down there, she didn't get up to look. She's like, oh, it's probably captain. And it was just, you know what I mean? Something we brushed off. And then the memory is so vivid. I mean, I remember, I even remember that my mom was, you know, in Florida, they have those big, all south of those big calmedo bugs. and we don't like bugs.

You know, we're from Pennsylvania, but this is a very open construction architecture out in the nature, so it's going to have bugs. And I remember my mom had this prey in there. She was going nuts. Every time she saw one, she'd be freaking out, wrapping presents. I mean, I remember everything.

And I can still see this. It was not captain, and it was not my grandfather, and why would my grandfather be in a big top hat and, like, this long coat and, like, it just very formally just. I don't think they went out dressed like that. And I didn't really think anything of it at all until I heard that episode. I'm like, oh, my God, that sounds like what I saw in Florida.

And that, you know, yeah, that was that. But, like, it was just so odd that I'm listening to Lindsay's story of a story sparking her memory and it sparked my memory. Yeah, that's how this kind of works, isn't it? I mean, people tend to forget about things or they just stop thinking about it. So their memory of it just kind of fades until somebody else brings. brings up the topic and it's like, whoa. Well, I always remembered it, but I never associated it with like,

because I had never heard of hatman. I've never heard. I heard a slender man not too long ago because I started calling my, my boy, one of his friends is weird. He's real skinny. And when he walks, he looks horizontal. I used to call him slender man, but I knew it was like sort of, you know, some type of urban legend, but I never heard a hat man.

Never heard a hat man until maybe like a year or two ago when I would start to read that, what's called the creepy catalog on Facebook. And then I would hear, hear and then little stories about it, but not too much. And I never really heard of it. I never associated, but with the hat man. It to me was just that weird memory of something, a ghost in my grandparents' house. Yeah. I think the Slender Man is basically a Topa.

It's the manifestation of something that's been giving a lot of attention to. And I don't think, I think Slender Man was probably something that didn't really necessarily exist before it. became this phenomena of people paying attention to it and now it's appearing. And you have, you have the real life cases where like those two little girls that killed, I think it was their friend because they said Slender Man told them to. These are young little girls who did something horrific because this entity called Slender Man told them to do it. So it's something that's very real, but I think at one time... So the idea is like it's a, it's an entity that only really came about because of the pre-existing legend.

So it like sort of took on that persona based on like the inner, but you know, is it my making sense? Yeah. I don't really. Okay. So like, well,

it's like, it's kind of like, um, it all depends on how you view things, right? I mean, I say it all the time on the show. And if you, the way your worldview is is going to shape your experiences.

And I think that for me personally, the way I look at at Topa is like, it's something that it's, there's some kind of entity that takes the form of something. of something that's popular in being talked about it a lot amongst people. So it's familiar. That'll get it seen. That'll get it seen and that'll get it out there.

But yeah, okay, that makes, I understand that concept. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I never really heard of anything slutter me before, but then all of a sudden now it's all the rage. Right. And so. What about this rake thing? I don't want to know anything about it. It gives me the create, it makes my skin crawl.

You know, you did recently because I was going to suggest you. It's like, what are you going to talk about the rake? And then you did come out with an episode, right? the rake. Yeah. But I don't think I paid attention very well with that one. Something else must have been going on in my house at the time that I could really focus on it.

But was it a listener story, though, that talked about it? Like, a listener experience? It was the live show that I did in Houston. I put it up as a podcast. And the guy, he's in Dallas, and he saw two of these things and brought daily with a friend as they were walking up a hill. And the rake is something that, you know, again, I have, I've had people just recently commenting. Yeah, well, me neither. I've had people commenting recently on that picture or the video,

I should say, that I put up on YouTube of the rake and stuff. And the one person said, come on, people, this isn't real. It was made in Hollywood. And I'm thinking, yes, but there's different layers and levels to life. And like I said, I mean, maybe the rake is a topa of some kind where it's manifested itself because of the attention that this topic of rake has gotten. And so, but what it is, I, don't know. It could be some kind of monster extraterrestrial type entity, but whatever it is, the videos that are online, there are real. I've seen some, and some of them, I'm like, there's no way that this is real. Like, this is not fake. And that's why that's, that's the thing

because it scares me that much because it really, to me, looks legitimate some of this footage. And it doesn't look, you know what I mean? And like, isn't it all like the hatman tends to be something that comes to mostly like younger children. Am I understanding? Yeah. Most of the time it's younger children and it's either an experience where it's whatever or it's a terrifying experience. Really.

Yeah, for me or whatever. Because I thought it was my grandfather because it was just really tall and you know what I mean? I wouldn't have been able to see him anyway if he was at the end of the hallway. So it really was a whatever at the time. Thank God. Yeah. Where Lindsay's was terrifying, right? She was hit. She was scared. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's fine. It was funny telling her mom that story, just maybe like a year or two or two ago. We told her mom that story.

She's like, really? Why didn't you tell me, honey? Like, she felt so bad. Yeah, and my mom is kind of blew it up. My mom, I think, was a little, my mom kind of believed in that kind of stuff. She did. She was real, I think a lot like my mom. And I think she probably really did think it was the captain.

But she's not having gotten up and seen it. And, you know, she's listening to the testimony of a three-year-old girl. So, you know, and I was very, and I still am very, you know, I was very bold and, you know, the actress and the singing CCR all the time when I was five. So she just probably thought it was, you know, I'm just being Amy and didn't think too much of it. But no, I know what I saw. I remember it like it was yesterday. Right. It just didn't scare me.

It just was like, to me it was odd because I couldn't, I didn't understand when my grandfather was still home and why he was like creeping out in the hallways. Yeah, I can understand that. But I'll tell you what, Amy. I really appreciate coming on and sharing these experiences. It's been a pleasure. And I have a feeling... Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. And I got to tell you, that episode with Charlie, the soldier...

Yeah. Wow. It still has me shaken. And I really... That was a great episode, and I'm so glad that he had called in and shared that with you. I just wanted to say that. And if he's listening, like, you know, good job. And I hope he's...

I hope it's helped him. I really do. Yeah, I do too. And I keep in touch with him. Actually, him and I have been texting back and forth this past week and stuff. And I just... try to keep in touch with him because, you know, what he talked about on that show and stuff, I, I, he was concerned about, you know, what could happen after he talks about something

like that. Yeah, security issues and things like that. Right. And so we, uh, we, we've been keeping in touch with it. It took, I thought about that afterwards. I was like, that's a lot of guts for him to even do that. But like, and that to me said, like, it really was weighing on him and he really had to get it off his chest. Yeah. And thank God he had a venue to do that now. Well, that's, that's the, that's the, that's the goal with our shows. I mean, the way I created the show, is I just want it to feel like the audience listening. I want them to feel like they're sitting at a table with me talking with somebody that had a crazy experience, you know, it's just...

Which is exactly how it is. And it's doing a really good job and, you know, keep it up. Well, I'll do my best. And on that note, thanks for coming on. Okay, no problem. Tony, thank you for having me. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it.

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I'm so pretty. I'm gonna get it. This is a lot.