The Confessionals - RELOADED | 166: The Demonic Intrusion

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

In Episode 166: The Demonic Intrusion, Chris joins The Confessionals to recount two profoundly unsettling experiences from his past. Firstly, Chris narrates an unsettling incident from his youth at the age of 19, when he made the decision to move into his own place. Little did he know that this choice would have eerie consequences - his apartment became a hotbed of demonic activity, and he bravely shares the bone-chilling details with us. Later, he takes us on a harrowing journey as he describes an encounter involving an exorcism he had to undertake on his first wife, an experience he found to be even more terrifying than the demons that once plagued his apartment.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals60" for 60% off plus free shipping!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, boning fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. The giant comes out of the cave, and they're all frozen, and he starts running and firing at this giant. Well, the giant moves.

He's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. and spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else. Shoot them in the face. Shoot them in the face. They basically decapitated. And I look over and there are two. And I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster.

Okay. I reload it. Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email.

My email address is The Confessionals Podcast. Gmail.com. That's the Confessionalspodcast at gmail.com. Or go to the website toconfessionalspodcast. com. Hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Either it works for me. Just get a hold of me. And if you want some extra episodes every week, go to the confessionalspodcast.com and become a member because every Thursday we drop a new episode for members only. So if that interests you, go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the join button and become a member today. Now this week we have a really cool show coming up for you, but before we get into that, I want to welcome all the new listeners that are tuning in to this show this month. You see, The Confessionals has taken out a billboard on 422 just outside of Philadelphia off the Oaks exit.

And I know we had a lot of people tuning in from seeing that billboard. We got messages already. So thank you very much for tuning in. I really hope you enjoy this show and come back every week, every Tuesday for a new episode. And anybody who has not seen the billboard yet, you can go to any social media platform, but I recommend going to Instagram, follow us at the Confessionals podcast, and you can see the billboard that we have up on 422. But thank you everybody for tuning in that has seen the billboard.

I really do appreciate it, and hopefully you enjoy what you're about to hear. Now, this week we have Chris coming on, and Chris is going to share some very paranormal type experiences that he's had. Now, he's from Pennsylvania, Uniontown, to be exact. Now, he, when he was 19 years old, decided that he wanted to man up and be his own guy and move out of the house. So he gets an apartment, and when he moves into this apartment, some things went down. I'm talking about knives flying through the air. A lot of crap happened, and he talks about it all on this week's show.

It's very chilling, so definitely stay tuned for that. And before we get to his encounter story, though, we're going to play a trailer for this coming week's member episode on Thursday. Let's go. Like you've been through it, I guess. Really strange, like terrifying feeling. Yeah, I can imagine it's terrifying. You did have your own pretty crazy experience with sleep paralysis and from what it sounded like. It sounded like an out-of-body experience.

You want to talk about that? Yeah, sure. So, I mean, I've heard of sleep paralysis before. Never had it my whole life. up until, I don't know, maybe a year ago, a year and a half ago. And I was laying in bed to sleep. It was asleep. Everything's going to be all right.

It's like, I don't know if I was myself sleeping. Like I was at the foot of the bed watching myself sleep. I see these two arms, I see these two arms come out of the fall and touch me on the shoulders. And as soon as they touch me on the shoulders, I'm back into my body and I'm awake and I can move and really, really freaked out about it. All right. Today we got Chris coming on. Chris, how you doing, man?

I'm doing really well. How are you doing? Good, man, good. So I'm glad you're here and you're from Pennsylvania. I'm from Pennsylvania. Two Pennsylvania is talking about ghosts. What's better than that? I am excited about having you come on the show today, man,

because you talk about different experiences you've had, even with your ex-wife, which we'll get into a little bit later on. But let's start off with this experience you had where you were 19 years old, decided that you wanted to move out of your parents, You get an apartment, and there's a lot of baggage that came with this place. So walk us into what happened, man. Well, right before I turned 19, I got an apartment in Uniontown, Pennsylvania. Decided there's time to spread my wings and fly.

So I went out of my own, got a job. And the place was actually kind of creepy even before I fully moved in. Like, I had a couple small instances before even moving in. me and my parents I was working at the Walmart and Union Town working like swing shifts so my parents were cleaning the apartment

for me when I was working and I had one day off I went to go help my mom clean some stuff up so I could start getting my furniture put in and it's really weird

I was in the kitchen just making sure like the drawers were wiped out all that stuff and my mom was in for the only bedroom

cleaning up the closet stuff like, yeah, well, she came, like, running out into the kitchen. And I was like, what is going on? Like, what's wrong? And she said, Chris, I opened your closet and, like, something came out of the closet at me. And I was like, okay, you're delusional. Like, there's nothing in the closet. And it was really weird because when I looked over towards my bedroom, which is a

basically out of the apartment, I actually had, the apartment was between a beauty salon that was downstairs. And there was an upstairs apartment, but my apartment had two entrances. So when you come in through the back entrance, you came into the kitchen. Right through the kitchen immediately to your left was the bathroom. And then the bedroom was right next to the bathroom. And then there was a hallway that took you down into a decent-sized living room and then like a foyer. And then the front door was off the foyer.

Well, I looked down towards the bedroom and I saw like, I didn't see anything in the bedroom, but when I looked down the hallway, like the hallway, like the hall. hallway was really dark. There was like a black veil over the like halfway down the hallway going into the living room. It is dark veil on black. And so I kind of checking it out and I decided to go look in the living room because it started moving towards the living room, which it was probably like one o'clock in the afternoon. So no curtains hanging, light pouring in through windows and it was still really dark like in that part of the apartment. I went down into the living room, didn't really see anything.

Nothing really stuck out to me. So I went back and talked to my mom and told her everything was fine. Just she could sit down and relax. I'd finish cleaning stuff up and, you know. Well, then the end of that week, we moved all my stuff in, and everything was fine for a while. And this kid that was real good friends with my younger brother in high school, he was kind of a dorky kid in high school and I kind of felt bad for him. So I stuck up for him a little bit.

Well, he wanted to come hang out with me at the apartment. So I'd have him come out and he'd spend a night here or there like on a Friday or Saturday and we'd like walk around Union Town during the day or go out to catch movies or whatnot. And this one night we were up like really late. It was like just before the sun came up. And he was sitting in my recliner in a living room. And I had like a white. couch and then a brown leather lazy boy.

And I think it was a white love seat. But I was getting ready to go to bed and I told him, do whatever he had to do, I was going to bed. And he looked at me and he said, Chris, there's a demon sitting on your couch. And I was just like, dude, you're delirious. It's like 4 a.m. You're delirious.

So I look over at the couch and like the one seat was kind of darker. I didn't see of actual physical apparition or anything but it was like the one cushion was like dark gray as opposed to white so I looked at him and I was like dude I can't handle this right now

I'm going to bed I don't know what that is but I'm going to bed so I went back into my room and I lay down in bed pull the blankets up and I probably wasn't even in my room for more than 10, 15 minutes hadn't even got to fall asleep yet and I heard this really

crazy sound and scream like something unearthly coming from my living room and I was like what the hell was that so I jump up throw my jeans back on run out of the bedroom

down towards the living room and it's the sun hadn't come up yet so it was dark in the living room but when I left there was a light on and uh this kid Mark was sitting in the recliner and I look over just sitting there in the darkness.

So I went over to turn the lamp on by the chair and like it wouldn't turn on. So I look at the other side and it was unplugged. So I plugged the lamp in. And I was like, dude, what the hell what are you doing? Like I'm trying to sleep. I have neighbors. Like, what are you doing?

And he's like, nothing. I just killed a demon. I was like, what do you mean? You just killed a demon. You can't kill a demon. Demons, I don't think we're living things anyway. Like, how do you kill a spirit? he's like oh I knew this Wiccan spell where I could reach up into heaven and use some of its light to kill evil spirits and that's what I did and I just looked at this dude because I had never been around any time and I've heard of like Wiccan and all that's never been around it I thought the kid was messing with me and he was just doing some weird stuff in my living room so I was like whatever you mean you go on ghost busting or whatever you're doing I'm going back to bed so I went in and light down, he comes by and he's like, hey, I'm going to make an omelette in your kitchen if you're okay with that.

He said, yeah, eat up, whatever. So, like, in the bedroom door was, like, straight across from the actual kitchen. So when I got to my doorway, I could look straight into my kitchen. When I'm laying in my bed, and I just closed my eyes, I hear him frying up eggs, and all of a sudden I hear something smack on my dresser, which was, like, to, like, It was at the foot of my bed on the left side of the room.

And I sit up and I looked and there's a steak knife laying on the floor in front of my dresser. And I was like, ha-ha, Mark, you're hilarious. I quit messing up my furniture and make your damn food. And so I laid back down and I heard it again. And I looked and there's a second steak knife laying on the floor. And so I got up and I walked out to the kitchen and I was like, dude, what are these? like why are you throwing stuff in my room? And he's like, I'm not, I'm frying this omel.

I'm trying to make an omelette. So I put the knives back at the little chopping block. And I split it further back on the counter. So like, you couldn't just real quickly grab it and I moved the position. So in case he was messing with me, it would take him more time to get between the knives and the stove and I'd hear him taking the steps across the kitchen. So I lay back down in bed.

And this time I'm listening. I'm not even trying to go back to stuff. sleep. I'm listening to hear this kid so I can catch him, you know, messing with me. And I hear him flipping the omelet and then I hear something smack my dressers. He's flipping the omelette. I look down and there's another knife on the floor in front of my dresser. So I was like, okay, I'm done. I'm wide awake. Obviously sleep isn't in the cards for me right now. I don't know what's going on. I get up, put the knife back in the chopping block and he looks at me and he's like, he's like, you're not sleeping.

I'm like, dude, but I don't know if it's you. I don't know what's going on, but something doesn't want me to go to sleep, so I'm not sleeping. So he offered to make me and let me have the omelet he just made, and he was going to make one for himself. So he puts it on the plate, puts the plate on the table. And it wasn't, it was like on the corner, but not hanging over the edge of the table.

I sat down, and before I could grab the plate to slide it to me, nobody was touching it. The plate slid off the table and shattered on the floor. He looked at me and I looked at him and he's like What just happened? And I'm like you know what dude? We're not eating breakfast here either I'm getting fully dressed and we're leaving We'll get food somewhere

I'm not I don't know what just happened So I We leave the Which I had a couple little spirits that were in my apartment That never bothered me It was like the spirit of like a little girl that was there And like her stepdad which I knew that because I talked to a medium

after everything went happen with my mom. But so I'm like, they've never messed with anything. Like I've never had anybody like to throw a plate off my table or anything like that. And so we leave. We go out and, you know, he comes back. He had somebody to pick him up in town and I went home. And the place was pretty quiet that evening.

I mean, nothing real quick. crazy going on. But when I went to bed that night, I started hearing like, you know, it's like you, like, you, like, tapping your fingers on furniture,

like going off like your pinky to your index finger, like running them over furniture. Well, I was laying there in bed and I heard that like going down my bookcase, up my dresser. And then there was the gap, like my closet door was next to my dresser.

and then there was like nothing there until you got to the corner and then there was a nightstand there and then right behind my bed my apartment had like the radiators in them with the big tin boxes surrounding them so then the strumming went to like

the nightstand and then on to that metal box behind my bed and I like freaked out and sat up and I was like what is going on here so looking around there's nobody in my apartment it's pitch black. And so I turned my lamp on

and I'm like looking around there's nothing going on. So I go to check the doors. Doors are locked. Went back and passed out. So for like the week I'd hear like little stuff here there. Well then this kid Mark comes back over

the next weekend. And, you know, I'm talking to him about like what happened the previous week. And we're trying to figure out what's going on. And we started walking down my hall and I had a, I was brought up in a Christian home.

My parents both went to church. I went to church. Well, then I didn't go to church as much as I used to, but I was still going, working around holidays and here and there on Sundays when I wasn't working. So I had like a cross hanging on my hallway wall that was man, a pewter. And he was walking in front of me,

heading towards the living room. And Tony, it was the craziest thing I've ever seen. the cross literally spun in a circle on the wall and flew off and almost hit him in the back of the head. It flew over his shoulder, hit my living room floor, and broke into three pieces. I'm officially freaking out.

I mean, I physically watched it happen. There was probably, oh, I don't know, five, six feet in between us as he was walking down the hallway. So I physically watched it spin on the wall and it just missed his head.

I yelled his name, and when he went to turn to see what I wanted, it flew right past him and hit the floor. So I was freaking out, and I was like, dude, we can't stay here right now. I don't know what's going on. I don't know if you're bringing it with you. I don't know if you did something at night last week. I don't know, but something's wrong. So I went to go, about changing my shirts, we could take off. We were just trying to catch a move.

We get something to eat in town and just stay away from the apartment. and I go back in my bedroom and he's sitting on my couch and then all of a sudden I hear all this ruckus while I'm trying to change my shirt like stuff slamming off the floor I heard a door slam shut and then I hear like knocking and banging

and I'm like what the hell is going on so I take off out of my bedroom like shirt half over my torso I run down the hallway and Mark's not on the couch anymore. But there were two big cardboard boxes that were in that closet that had like comforters and them in blankets and towels and stuff. They were like extra ones that I wasn't using at the time. Had been thrown like all the way across my living room.

So it was about 12 feet across my living room into the foyer. And they were thrown into the doorway of the foyer, both of them. and then I hear knocking on the inside of the closet door so I opened the closet door and there's Mark standing there looking at me like freaking out I'm like dude what are you doing the closet like what's going on he said I was sitting on the edge of the couch where you told me to like where you saw me I was sitting right there and all of a sudden I heard like the doorknong turned

and the door opened and I felt like the boxes flew out I felt something grabbed me and it like ripped me into the closet. He said, I tried to turn the doorknob to get out. The door, it was like it was locked. When I say, kid, there's no lock on this door. Like, it's just a basic interior doorknob. There's

no lock. He's like, Chris, I'm telling you, it was like it was locked. I couldn't get out. I started knocking on the door, trying to get your attention to come get me out out of the closet. So I was like, all right, we're out of here. We're done. Mike.

So after we went out around town, I had his ride come get him. And I started assuming that I didn't know if whenever he did his little spell or whatever he thought he was doing, I don't know if he accidentally woke something up that may have been there. If he opened a doorway to something, I don't know.

So I had him stay home for a while. I was like, dude, until I figure out what's going on here, you know, obviously it's mad at you. I can't have you coming here just in case. and so I started making phone calls and there was I don't know if you've heard of Nemicole and Castle

within Brownsville, PA No, I don't think I have Okay, it's this little castle The day, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was part of like the Underground Road All those years ago But it's a little haunted castle And they'll do like Halloween tours

They tell you the haunted stuff They do Christmas tours too I guess where you can go through and it's all lit up with Christmas lights and all these things and there was an older gentleman that was like he was a medium

to work there and somebody had gotten me in touch with him and he's the person I contacted when I first moved in and my mom got scared to see if there was anything at the house and I don't know he never came over I don't know what he did

he did whatever he was doing and he told me about people that were in my house and so on and so I called him up again. It was explaining to him what was going on, and he put me in touch with his daughter, who had more knowledge in, like, the occult. I don't know if she had been Wiccan at one time,

or if she was at that time or whatever. So I call her, and I'm explaining what this boy told me he did in my living room. And she was like, there is no spell in Wiccan that allows you to kill a demon. she's like, you can't kill a demon. And I was like, so what did he do? And she was, I don't know.

She's like, whatever he did, if he's not actually practicing under somebody that's teaching him things and he's just doing things on his own, whatever he did, he did it wrong. And he opened up something in your apartment and you need to, like, bless your apartment, you know, do what you got to do

to get all of it out. After talking to her, I called my parents up because like I said, I was in church with them all my life. and I called them, told them what was going on, and was like, listen, I need help. Like, what happened? And I was explaining the whole situation to him. I was like, I don't know if, you know,

I don't know if I can do this by myself. I don't know how it's going to react when I start, like, anointing the apartment. I just don't know. So my parents came over, my brother came over, and we took anointing oil and went through and, like, blessed all the doorways, the white walls, windowsills, everything.

While we were trying to bless things, me, my mom were in the kitchen, and my brother and my dad were in my living room. While while we were in the kitchen, I heard something call for her, like my dad's voice called for me. And my mom heard it too. And I looked at her, and she was like, well, go see what he wants. I'll be fine. So I walk into the living room, and I'm like, hey, dad, what did you need?

He's like, I didn't call for you. I was like, yes, you did. Me and mom both heard you call for me. So he looks at my brother and my brother was like, Tris, he didn't call for you. And then I heard my mom yell out in the kitchen. So I take off out to the kitchen and she's like frozen, like, so scared that she was almost like petrified standing by the sink.

And I look where she's looking and there is this black, like midnight black, silhouette of a person standing in the doorway of my bedroom. And when we all came to the kitchen, because my parents, my dad and brother followed me, when we got to the kitchen, I don't know if it was coming out to the kitchen towards her or if it just stopped there,

but that's where it stopped. And it was like, it didn't progress any further. And so I took my mom outside on my porch and my back porch to get her out of the house because apparently whatever it was, it isolated her to do something to her. So I took my mother out of the house, had her sit on the back portion wait. I went back in the apartment and I'm like, all right, I'm done.

Like, you know, you want to throw stuff at me, that's fine. Just you're not messing with my mom, my dad, like, I'm, no. So I grabbed my Bible and I grabbed some annoying oil and I went to go to my bedroom. And it wasn't in the doorway anymore. So I go into my bedroom and, um, it sounded like something was in my closet. Like, if you close the door all the way and you're pushing against it, you know how you hear like the door pressed against the door frames, the door jams?

That's what it sounded like was happening in my closet. Like somebody was in there just pushing on the door. So I opened my closet and I go to bless the inside of my closet and I don't know, I just felt something like, I felt like something like grabbed my arm. And when it did, it was like my arm went like, it was, it was hard to explain. It's almost like it went kind of numb, like my forearm where it touched me. So I hurried up, I put the oil on the door, closed the bedroom door, and I had my mom stay outside, and we finished anointing the rest of the apartment, and then I went out and checked on her,

and she was doing a lot better as long as she was outside. They went home. I thanked him for helping me out. But the blessing didn't get rid of anything. Like we said prayers. We were going through it the Bible, the annoying oil, but it didn't. It just made it angry. And different things would start happening.

Like there was a mirror on the back of my dresser that was just as long as my dresser was. And when you go into the, like, so it was facing my bedroom door, like I said before, so as soon as you walked in the bedroom, you'd see this mirror. well when you walked in and looked in the mirror the reflection of you was like a distorted reflection of you it was definitely you looking back but like

maybe the reflection would be smiling when you weren't smiling like not like a big Cheshire cat grin but like a little smirk almost or like something was always different it wasn't quite right I would hear

like things calling my name at night when I was trying to go to sleep. The drumming of the fingers continued every night. I thought, so I, a couple of my friends from high school actually ended up becoming pastors, but they weren't quite there yet, but they were going to church, and these are like my best friends in high school. And so I reached out to the one. And I was like, listen, you know, one day this week, I need you to come.

come over. And I explained everything to him. So on Sunday, he had me go to church with him. So I went to church with him, and then we went to the apartment right afterwards. And nothing happened. The man was there for 45 minutes with me. Like sitting there hanging out, we're talking, waiting for things to happen, and nothing happened. Nothing. No noises, no shadows, no nothing and moving. So he was like, well, here's maybe you come to church, you praying,

maybe that got rid of it. And I was like, well, maybe, you know, I don't know. So he left. Within 20 minutes of him leaving, I could hear things again. Things calling my name.

Like I would go into the kitchen. I hear something calling me from a living room or if I was in the bathroom, something was calling me from like the kitchen. And it was almost it was almost like it was trying to make me, isolate me. You know what I mean?

Like, it wanted me to feel like I was alone in it. So nobody outside of my parents coming over experienced anything. I had a pastor come over. He didn't experience anything. Don't know anybody outside of my parents and that kid that did whatever he did. But when I talked to that medium, because I called him back and was like, listen, I don't know what to do. I tried anointing the house. I brought a preacher in.

you know, my friend came in. I said, it's not showing itself to anybody. And he goes, Chris, it's not going to. He said, it's trying to isolate you so you feel like you're crazy. He goes, that's the whole point. He goes, I can see them. He goes, when I focus on your house, I feel this really dark, this darkness that's just there. He says, you need to get rid of it.

I was kind of freaking out because I didn't know what to do. I tried anointing oils. I tried everything I knew growing up in church to do to get rid of, like, bad spirits, dark entities. So I was freaking out one day. It was getting on my nerves. It was finally reaching this breaking point with me. And all I heard in the back of my mind was read your Bible. He said, okay.

And then the voice told me to read Psalms. Psalms one. Start reading Psalms one. So I did. because the like you know Tony the Psalms are all basically like songs to God

it's all praises to God so I started reading the first Psalms and it it was the closest I've never experienced like a really close to God moment like this before

but I was sitting at my table in the kitchen and like what happened because I'm just so overwhelmed I was so I was on Honestly, I was scared. I was upset because I didn't understand why what I was doing didn't work.

I was getting sleep deprived because every time I try to go to sleep, there was always something waking me up in the middle of the night, you know, keeping me going. So if what's happened, I'm clenching my knee with my left hand and I'm reading the Bible. And then all of a sudden it just felt like somebody with the gentlest touch just touched my hand. It was the most soothing, gentle touch I've ever felt in my life. life. And as soon as I felt that, like, this calm came over my body. So I sat there and I kept reading.

And all of a sudden, and this is going to sound really weird. And, you know, I know you've heard a lot of things, but this is going to sound really weird to people that may not believe exactly the same way. But it was like my kitchen got really bright. Like the white on the pages of the Bible was really bright white. the lettering was a really bold black. And I heard like a little bit of rumbling, and then all of a sudden my house felt very peaceful. For the first time in, I don't know,

the few months that I had been living there, when I was really stressed and I didn't know what else to do, it was like, God was like, okay, this is what I want you to do for me. This is what you're going to do. This is what's going to get rid of it for you. And it did. Like the house went back to, well, I guess you could say normal.

I didn't have anything calling my name anymore. I didn't hear the fingers drumming on anything. Whatever that was, like everything was gone, minus the couple little things that were there when I moved in that didn't cause any harm. So you're saying that everything was gone at that moment, mostly not everything but yes yeah just the the really dark stuff the things that were were caught that were tormenting me were gone like the little girl that was there her stepdad that

was there like a couple days after that happened i uh i saw the little girl again you know but nothing ever came after that like there was no doors slamming things flying at me not nothing trying to torment me. All the actual dark entities were gone. It's interesting. Why do you think that not everything was gone, but just the very negative stuff that you were experienced? I honestly don't know. I don't know if the other ones weren't gone because they weren't evil. I don't believe that every ghost is evil. I mean, I believe you have residual hauntings. There are some people that just for some reason linger they don't want anything, they don't do anything, they just linger.

And I don't know. I don't know if it's because they weren't malevolent, because they were just caring about their lives, like maybe they did when they were alive. I don't know. I think I was just so happy if the other stuff was gone that I never thought much about that part. I wanted to ask you way back when you first started sharing the story

about the knives in your room, how do you think they were getting them? I mean, like, your friend was in the kitchen where they were at and they're just ending up in your room. Do you think they were some kind of like put there through a different dimension or do you think they were actually physically floating through the air? I think they were physically flying. I think something was grabbing them and throwing them. After watching the cross spin on the wall and fly, I actually had a...

a piece of that cross thrown at me. I didn't mention that in the story. When that day, I, the box, the other boxes were around like the radiators in my house. Well, something was like pushing from the inside of one of the boxes.

And I went to go see what was going on. And one of the pieces of the cross, I put them up to my coffee table. One of the pieces had flown off the coffee table and just missed my knee and hit the box right next to me, right in front of me. So I believe that it was a very physical action, that it wasn't like a,

but like it was just disappearing in the kitchen and like interdimensional travel. I think it was very, whatever was there was strong and was strong enough to physically move things because I watched it happen a couple times myself. Whatever happened to the kid that you think started this whole thing? I mean,

are you still talking to him today or what? before you even answer that, you know, what made him feel like this was something that he wanted to do in your place? I'm assuming you guys had that activity going on, and he's like, well, I can fix this. Was it just being naive? I think it was, and it was actually even before there was really any activity. He was the only one that saw anything. Because, like I said, the girl and her stepfather,

like I would the only thing with the stepfather like I couldn't sit in my recliner like after a certain point of night I would just kind of feel like somebody was bugging me to get out of the chair almost like he wanted to sit in the recliner like an old man just relaxing

after a long day sitting in a little lazy boy you know what I mean nothing ever bothered me but I just I think he saw whatever he saw and was like oh I can fix this for him, which obviously he did not.

Yeah, obviously. So I'm assuming you've come to the conclusion, and what it sounds like is whatever he did made things exponentially worse. Oh, most definitely. He let something walk into my apartment that I don't think was there before. I don't know if, like, I believe, like using Ouija boards. If you use a Ouija board, it opens a doorway. You're allowing something to walk into where you are.

You're welcoming something there. And I think he, regardless of whether it was intentional or not, I think he may have inadvertently welcomed something into my house. Yeah, I would definitely say that's a high probability, considering what you just shared with us. And him, I quit talking to him. there was an instance where he called me one night

and it was after everything died down to the apartment he came by and hung out a couple times after that and nothing ever stayed but this whole experience with my apartment I don't know

like I became really sensitive to things after this I don't know if being I don't know if I was sensitive to them before and they just like dormant I don't know if it, I don't know, but I became really sensitive to spirits and things after this entire ordeal at my apartment. And this one time he came over and we were hanging out and when he went to leave, it was later.

It's like 10, 11 o'clock. It was dark outside. And I walked outside with him walking him down to his mom's boyfriend's car. And he turned around to say something to me, like his face looked different in the darkness. like his eyes were kind of blackened out a little bit like it was weird like whatever I think the boy carried something with him almost like a possession type deal there was something that was with him and after that night when he left I never let him I every time he wanted to come hang out I was busy I was like I you know I don't want a recap of what

happened and then he called me one night and he was scared he said there were things in his house that were scaring him. And he wanted to talk. So I told him I talked to him over the phone. And he sounded genuinely terrified of whatever it was. He was by himself, his mom and her boyfriend went out. And he was genuinely terrified. At some point, I gave this kid one of my Bibles

because I used to have a little stash of them. and we were talking about religion one time, and I gave him one of my Bibles. So I asked him if he had that Bible handy that I gave him, and he said yes. So I decided, because Psalms worked and taking care of the things in my apartment, I decided that would be a good place to maybe start with easing him. It might comfort him the way I was comforted. I started reading verses over the phone to him. I told him just to follow along or read out loud with.

me either one. But we were going through as I'm reading these verses I think it was the last episode your last new episode where you had the recordings

of the demonic possessed people on with the radio shows. Well kind of like that first recording that weird voice that chick had

in that first recording I heard something come through the phone and it was as I was reading verses, it was twisting them and making them very sadistic. And I asked him, I was like, what was that? And apparently he didn't hear it. He said, I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm like, somebody just said something. Like, is there another phone? Like, is somebody sitting next to you? Is there another? Because I think he called me on his house. I said, oh, my phone is somebody messing with me? And he was like, no. He said, there's nobody here.

I'm by myself. So I kept reading. And as I started going through verses, the voice came through the phone again. And again, it was twisting Bible verses in ways that I don't care to reiterate to anyone. But with the voice came that feeling of fear like there was in my apartment. And so finally, you know, I told him, I said, you need to make the stop, whatever it is. you need to make it stop. You need to make it go away.

And he said, Chris, I can't. I said, go see a priest, preacher, you know, do what you need to get rid of whatever this is. And I think that was probably one of the last times I spoke to him. He never called me after that. We just kind of lost touch with each other. So yeah,

I wasn't in a position at that age. I barely got rid of whatever was in my apartment and I was terrified. I wasn't in a position. at that age with my faith. I mean, I had faith, but it's grown a lot since then. And I just wasn't at a place where I think I could have helped him. Wow.

So the voices that you were hearing coming through the phone that you were talking to him on, was it during him talking that you heard this other voice, or was it while you were talking? He really didn't read along the whole lot. Um, he was just, like, every, when we first started reading, like, he was, like, reading along with me. And then after that, I noticed he had grown quiet. And I was just reading the verses. I would hear, I could hear him breathing into the phone.

So I knew he was still there. Because it was back, this was 14 years ago. So this is before, like, Android and stuff when you had those big, heavy Nokia. So it didn't even tell you if anybody hung up. You were starting to yourself usually after somebody, like, lost service. I hear him breathing into his phone, and so I'm reading these verses to him, and then I would hear this voice that was very similar to the first recording in your show from Tuesday, which honestly, when I heard it, it actually raised every hair on my body and sent chills down my spine.

Yeah, you know, when it comes to that stuff, there's a lot of different things that people think about that. But I do know that a lot of times people that have demonic possession within them, other people sometimes hear voices like you did, right, or even on that recording. But the person in the moment doesn't hear the voices, because the voices are coming out of them, but they're not in the right mental state to even hear what's going on. It's almost like they're being blocked while the other one is using them. So they have no idea what's going on. Exactly. And I don't know how true this is, but I heard a theory that, because if you remember on that recording, the woman, she actually, she's talking, and then it sounded like something else was talking and it was totally,

it sounded like a different voice. Yes. I heard that human beings have two vocal cords, and they either they only use one of the two or they can only use one at a time of the two? I heard a similar theory. It was a while ago that people have like a, like you said, a dual set. And that only certain people end up using both sets or whatever at the same time. So, or like, or something like, most people only use one set. And then then I guess during these situations or whatever, it can, those sets can be used or whatever.

I don't know. I heard it a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I had heard too. And it's interesting because maybe possibly people that have demonic possession within them and that happens, maybe that the demonic entity is using that other vocal cord to communicate. You know, I don't know.

I mean, what do you think about that? Do you think that's a possibility? I would say it is it could be possible considering the voice that I heard and even the ones in your recording sounded absolutely nothing

like the other person like the person that was being spoken to the voice was when and it was honestly it was really close to the one in that recording

the one that I heard and uh but it's it is possible I mean I went through a similar situation with my

wife when we were together. And at one point when she would talk, it wasn't her talking. Like, it wasn't her voice. So I believe that could be very possible. Yeah, I mean, I think it could be possible. But, I mean, what do I know? I just drive a truck for living and talk to people about their ghost stories. So, you know, I lift heavy stuff and crank on a pipe branch all day. I mean, you know, I don't know nothing either. I'm a grandma. Yeah, man. I do find that interesting, though. And those voices coming out and stuff. It's just, you know, I don't know. I think it's possible.

I think it's possible. I just don't know the right, I don't know, terminology to use maybe as far as all that goes. But to me, I think it's definitely possible. I think when I heard the theory, it was somebody trying to argue against demonic possession. And they were trying to say that if a person was talented enough, they might be able to figure out how to either use the other set or both at the same time to make those noises. And I think that's how I heard it. It was somebody arguing against the idea of demonic presences and demonic possession.

Yeah. And I honestly, is it possible for somebody to gain enough control over their body to use both? Yes, through training. through years of practice, but for somebody to, you know, all out of the blue, start speaking differently in like a growly, like, raspy-ish-type voice because I don't think you can accidentally figure out how to do it and then do it perfectly. Right. You know, I think I'll play the audio real quick for people to listen in case they don't know what audio interview we're talking about. This was episode 103,

and we played probably about, I think it was about 20 minutes worth of audio of callers. This one girl calls into a show. Let me paint the picture for people because I didn't do a good job on that episode of telling people what I knew about the call. What happened is this girl calls into a radio show that's hosted by a guy named Bob Larson, and she's demonically possessed. And she's actually, she doesn't say this during the phone call. But Bob actually met up with her after the first phone call. And he talked with her. And she was actually part of a satanic cult where she was being raised to be a satanic sacrifice on Halloween.

This is what she had told Bob when they met up. And you hear during the first phone call, she actually was concerned about being hurt when he prays for her. He asked her if she could pray for him and she said, is it going to hurt? Do I have to cut myself? And so it was a very emotional thing. He meets up with her and then a few nights later, the mother calls into the station to tell him to leave the family alone. And the mother pretty much admitted to planning on killing herself as well as her daughter during this sacrifice. So check this out. 1-800-8-2-1 talk is the on-the-air number and I tell you we've got some very tense situations here right now now Rebecca I want you just listen to me for a minute okay yes okay now we want to help you

and the people who gave you this number knew that we would be able to help you now we can help you in a number of ways the first thing we can do is pray for you okay pardon It doesn't hurt. You do not have to cut yourself. You don't do anything. You just listen right now. Okay? Okay?

Uh-huh. In the name, our Father in heaven, and His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, we just pray right now for the peace and comfort of God to come upon Rebecca. I pray that her mind may be opened, and I pray that the power of the Holy Spirit may come upon her. We bind all the powers of darkness We bind all the work of the enemy And we make every evil spirit subject to the Lord Jesus Christ

And all the work of the sateness in her life We command That it come to an end in the name of the Lord Jesus We pray right now for the love of Christ To come to where she is right now And to overshadow her life And I place the blood of Christ on Sally right now.

I put me on on Rebecca. I place the blood of Christ on Rebecca right now. I place the blood of Christ on Rebecca. You are bound by the authority in Jesus. You are bound. In Jesus' name, you are bound. I rebuke you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. You are bound.

Becca, Rebecca is being loosed by the power of Jesus Christ. What's happening? Don't worry, Rebecca. God is in control. Don't you worry. Who are you? Who are you? The keeper?

You are not the keeper. A guardian. You are not the guardian. No, I am. You are subject to Jesus Christ. You are subject to Jesus Christ. Keeper and guardian, I bind you in Jesus' name. Keeper and guardian, I bind you in the name of Jesus.

Keeper and guardian, you are bound in the name of Jesus. Christ. Keeper. You who call yourself keeper is Jesus Christ Lord. You cannot have this girl. Do you hear me? You cannot have her. She is not yours. To whom does she belong? Not continue to belong to him. Rebecca? Now you just, you just relax for a minute, okay? Now you stations down the line. I'm going to, I'm going to suspend my closing. I'm going to suspend the last couple of commercial breaks. I'm going to stay right with her. Rebecca? You just relax for a minute. You who call yourself the Keepers speak to me.

In the name of Christ, you speak to me. What? You let her go. Let her go. Not forever. Jesus Christ came here to die for her. She will make that choice, and you know very well it's a miracle that she called. It's a miracle she called today, isn't it?

Isn't it? Isn't it? Someone out there. It's your problem. Now you listen to me. You must be subject to the authority of Jesus Christ. How many more there are you? How many more of you are there? How many people? How many more of your kind? How many? Tell me in the name of Jesus Christ. How many? I'm here for generation. The hold is being broken. No. Yes. No. Yes, and you know very well it is being broken.

God did not have her calm. by an accident and God would not have thousands of people praying right now. You know very well that your hold is being broken now. Well, you will not have her on your Hello's Eve. You will not have... No, she will not be yours forever. She will belong to Jesus. Who's David?

The David we were talking to a moment ago. Is Satan defeated? Did Jesus Christ rise from the dead? Then you are defeated too. And your hour has come to an end. I have a right to be here. What is the right? The authority in Jesus' name, I bind you to hold your tongue silent right now.

Yeah. I bind you to submerge and hold your tongue silent. Rebecca? Rebecca. What? Do you want love in your life? I'm scared of it. Do you want it?

Do you want God? I don't know who he is. Do you want him? Do you want him if he is love? Then say, say, I, Rebecca. Keep her, stay out of the way in Jesus' name. Rebecca? Rebecca, keep her, get out of the way.

I command you to stay out of the way. Rebecca? Yes. Say, I, Rebecca. I, Rebecca. Want love. I want love. I want God. Stay out of the way, keeper.

Stay out of the way. I want love. I want out. I want out. Say, I put my trust in God. In God. In God. Stay out of the way, keeper.

God. And Jesus Christ. Say, and. And. Jesus. Say Jesus. Keeper, stay out of it. away. Stay out of the way, keeper.

Jesus. Christ. Keeper, keeper, you are bound. You stay right there and I'm going to come back to you in a minute. I have to go away. I just ask all of you to be very, very much in prayer. Support this ministry, stand by us, and support us in prayer now. Helping the hurting is what talk back with Bob Larson is all about. Thank you for praying. Now, let me tell you what's going on right now. At this moment, moment. Rebecca's mother is sitting in the car in a trance. It just may be that that's something

that God did to get her mother out of the way so I could talk with Rebecca. I don't know what's going on. I'm speculating. Rebecca is not at the phone right now. Rebecca is going to come back to the phone at any minute. In the meantime, I want every, and I may have to interrupt this, but I want every demon in hell to listen. I don't want to hear any more that you have to say. Do you hear me? Catherine? Please leave us alone. No, I will not leave you alone. Catherine, under no circumstances while I leave you alone, not when you are going to murder your daughter. And I will not leave you alone because I want you to have God's love in your life.

I want you to know the promise and the hope which... You listen to me. It's too late for me. It is not too late. That's a lie. That's a lie of Baphimit. That's a lie of Lucifer. If it's too late, why am I talking to you now? I have no idea. I can't get rid of you. You can't get rid of me. You aren't going to get rid of me because I won't let you go, because God won't let you go. How would I know about Araboras and Marduk

Floretta No right How would I know To speak those names Listen Those are the names of demons Which Jesus Christ has trod under his feet Which Jesus Christ is defeated at the cross

I will speak them Out of your little fairy tale Land will not have any part of it You understand me Who's living in the fairy tale You've got a black book with names Of ancient spirits and relatives That's reality

It's killing your daughter On October 31st of reality It is reality. It's murder. We must get rid of this evil. What evil? You are evil. You're the one that's going to commit murder. You're the one that's going to kill your daughter.

I will join her. Are you going to kill yourself? Are you? In Jesus' name, who's interfering? Who is it? Who is it? Come to attention. Who are you?

Revensky. Well, Revensky. I thought you couldn't speak English. Ravinsky. I thought you couldn't speak English. Ravinsky. Are you Ravinsky? God.

Can you speak English? Listen, I don't want any part of this. You are nothing. Catherine, who's going to kill you at Halloween? No one. Are you going to take your own life? That's none of your business. Are you planning to sacrifice yourself?

This is none of your business. It is God's business. Why would I be talking to you? This is a miracle, Catherine. You are a fool. How would I know all of this? Why would I be talking? to you if I were a fool. If I were full, how would I know all of this? I have no idea, but you

leave us alone. I know about Ravinsky. You know what... Leave us alone. I'm begging you. In Christ's name... In Christ's name, we break the curse of Ravinsky. What? Revinsky? Can you speak English? Are you there, Ravinsky? Ravinsky, the blood of Christ be on your curse. The blood of Christ be on your curse. The blood of Christ be on your curse. The blood of Christ be on your curse. You cannot have Catherine's life on Halloween.

You cannot have it. You cannot have it. And you cannot have the life of Rebecca. Rebecca confessed Christ yesterday. You heard her. Did you not? Confess it. Did you hear her?

Answer me, Ravinsky. Answer me. Catherine. Catherine. Leave us alone. Catherine, for God so loved the world. He sent his son, Jesus Christ, to die for you, Catherine. You need to hear what you have to say.

You need to hear. If it were... You leave my daughter and... I will not leave your daughter alone. I will not let you kill your daughter and I will not let you kill yourself in the name of these spirits. Jesus Christ has, I know how many spirits Rebecca has. Listen, she has 342 of them.

We have a long trip ahead of us, and I don't intend to spend it on this television. No, you cannot go anywhere. I cannot go anywhere. In the name of Christ, we command you be restrained. It sounded almost exactly like that first voice. Like, it was, I listened to your show as I'm driving to and from work. Because I drive, like, I live in Morgan Town, but I drive up. near Pittsburgh to go to work every day.

So the guy that actually got me into listening to your show, he rides with me. He was like halfway in between, so he meet up in the middle, and then I drive the rest of the way up because my vehicle was much smaller than his. And that's how I passed the time, like, as I'm driving, so I'm almost an hour and a half ride.

And I was actually driving home Tuesday night when I saw the episode, and I started playing it. And it was, it was an eerie feeling. It was definitely, it took me back to that moment. And it, it kind of, it scared me a little bit. I'm not going to lie about it. It was different.

But it sounded almost exactly like it. Yeah, I mean, I've heard other, that those are just, what I played on that show was just a couple samples. I've heard other different recordings of such things. and a lot of times they sound similar, which is interesting. But, yeah. So before we kind of wrap things up here on this interview, I wanted you to have the opportunity to share another story with me because when you told me about it, my ears

perked up big time. So you were previously married and you actually had to perform an exorcism on your ex-wife. How did that happen? What are you talking about? Like, I mean, how'd you find out that she was demonically possessed? How'd you go about this whole thing? That's something interesting as well. So, me and my ex-wife had gotten together right before I turned 21.

We lived in Tennessee, as I went down there to be with her after I met her online. We came back up here and moved into a little town called Mason Town. It's in PA. And we had his little too-beder. house that was above a two-car garage and weird things were happening in the house

my oldest son which was four at the time her is my stepson I hear him in his bedroom his full end of a conversation like he was talking to somebody but I couldn't hear the other half the conversation so I'd go in the room sometimes

you know because it was late at night he should have been asleep by now and I was like hey who you talking to bud. And he was like, oh, nobody. But then he'd look over and there was this little pop-up cloth playhouse

that I bought him. There was like a Spider-Man one. And he would look over at that and then look back at May. And I was like, you sure you're not talking to anybody? He's like, yeah, I'm just talking. I said, well, it's past your bedtime. You need to go to sleep.

So he'd lay down, I'd leave. And then it went, because Mason Town's a very, it's a very weird town. It's, there's a lot of darkness in that town. And so one night, and I'm trying to think,

I always told my, uh, ex-wife's movie together, you know, because, you know, people argue. You're, you're together,

you know, you argue with your girlfriend. I'm sure you and your wife have your disagreements. Sure. And I told her, I said, you know, I said, if you ever get mad at me, you need to go blow off steam, go for a walk, do whatever. I said, just don't walk around here at night. Some of the people aren't the best people.

And there are things outside that I'd rather not, you not be outside at night. So we get into an argument one night. And she decides she's going to go for a walk. So she's been gone for like, I don't know, she's only been going for like five minutes. I'm like, I can't let her walk around by herself. If something happens to her, I'm just done. So I take off after her And I start walking

I thought I saw her further up the sidewalk I saw something and I thought it was her So I started heading up a sidewalk And it came like My house at the bottom of like a hill As you climb and I crested the hill All of a sudden she's like almost a block away At the other end of the sidewalk

And I'm like holy crap she's like hauling it So I started heading down the sidewalk toward her to what I thought it was her. And I see this thing cross the street. And I get to the corner where she crossed and look down and she's all the way down at the

edge of this other, like almost a block. And I'm like, holy crap, where is she going? Like, what is she doing? So I started jogging to try to catch up to her. And I go down, it's a dollar general there. And as I go down to the corner of the dollar general where I saw her

turn, I round the corner and I know it was like later at night and it was dark outside, but this was darkness. Like, pitch black, something's not right darkness. And that's when I realized that that wasn't my ex-wife. Like, I don't know what I followed. I don't know what was leading me around that town to that spot, but it wasn't her. I started walking. And I was like, well, maybe she went down to the park.

So I went down, start heading down to the park. And finally she calls me and she says, hey, I'm done walking around I'm going to head back to the house and I was like, where were you? And she told me she was by the cemetery sitting on this wall by my church and she was going to head home.

I said, well, I'm on my way. You know, Johnston was at my brothers, so it wasn't like he was left home by himself before anybody thinks that. My brother used to come and take him like over the weekends or whatever sometimes. And so I start heading back,

you know, up towards the back up towards the house. house. I mean, I don't know. Roughly, it's less than a quarter of a mile, but I was still 10, 15 minutes in the house, like walking time. So I'm walking back up through, and it was really weird. It was like, I told you, I became sensitive after that apartment. Yeah. Well, I became sensitive in many different ways. Sometimes I see things like flashes in my head, not so much as, like I'm physically seeing it that's almost like I'm being shown something

but when I see it like what I'm looking at disappears and like I see it playing out like in front of my eyes you know what I mean? Sure. I know that's a horrible description. That's the best I can describe it. That's a horrible description. But that's how I hear things when it talks to me too.

Like you had somebody on one of your episodes and I forget what it was. They say it's almost like a mind speak. that these things talk to me, but it's not audible. It's like I hear it in my head. I hear these things talking to me. Right.

And I see this little vision, and it's of her crossing the cemetery to head back to the house. But when she turned around, her eyes were black, and her teeth were all jagged. And then she turned back around and started walking across the cemetery,

and then it, like, disappeared. And I was like, what in the hell just happened? that was the first time anything like that ever really happened to me and it freaked me out. So I'm kind of thinking I'm hallucinating. There's something like something different. I don't know what's going on. But I hurry up and I get home and we're talking. And we decided to go to bed, so we're laid in bed.

And all of a sudden she tells me that she sees something because the closet door in my room. And I think the one in Jonathan's room, for some reason, there was no doors on the closet. They were just open closets. And she said she saw something peering out from the closet. And I was like, okay. I had already had other interesting things between my apartment in this moment. I had become pretty accustomed to kicking things out of places where they weren't supposed to day. So I went and grabbed my Bible, the same one I used in my apartment, and I grabbed a thing of, I didn't have any annoying oil, so I grabbed the little thing of like an olive oil. I prayed over the olive oil to bless it to make it like anointing oil.

And I went into my bedroom, and as soon as I walked in, the air became different. It was like something was pissed because I just walked in with a Bible. So I walked over and I anointed the top and the two sides of the closet door frame. And I prayed that whatever was there, that, you know, if anything was in this closet, anything was, you know,

whatever she saw, if it was wishing either of us harm, they would be removed from the house in Jesus' name. And the airs came to lighten up a little bit. I put the Bible down on my nightstand, and I laid back down next to my wife, And as I'm laying there, I'm closing my eyes, I'm getting ready to go to sleep. And she tapped my arm and she goes, Chris, something is telling me to hurt you.

And I say, excuse me? She's like, I hear something. It's telling me to hurt you. It's telling me it wants me to hurt you right now. All I knew to do was start praying. You know, I was like, well, whatever this is, it must have. just be, you know, I don't know how it's reaching her. I don't feel anything in the room. So I started praying, and she told me that I started saying the Lord's prayer, and she said that

the Lord's prayer was giving her a migraine. When I started praying, it was giving her a headache. I had a little bit of that oil left that I prayed over and an anointed, or I asked God to bless so I could anoint. And I put some on her arm, and she said that it felt hot. no way this oil was hot. It was like fresh out of an olive oil bottle that was like room temperature that I had put into a little actually I just put someone

on like a little end of a paper towel so that I could like anoint the door frame. Like there was no way that it was hot. She said it felt like really hot like to the point of all was burning her. And then she started like pulling away from me while she was like laying in bed.

And I went to touch her again. And then she jumped up out of the bed and she took off out to the living room. And I was like, you know, I was going to a Pentecostal church at the time. And I honestly, I was waiting for this preacher to tell me that I was crazy. But I didn't know what else to do. I mean, I've, you know, dealt with dark spirits and houses. If something followed me in my car, I've anointed a car. I've never dealt physically dealt with something being in someone.

I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know what to do. So I called my pastor, and it's, I don't know, 11 o'clock at night, 11.30, 12, something like that's late. And I apologize for calling him. And I'd explain the situation. And I'm waiting for him to tell me that I'm insane. And he's like, Chris, I'm over an hour away from you. I need you to remove that demon from your wife.

I will be there. I'll drive. He goes, but it needs to happen now before it sinks his claws in too deep. He goes, so you need to get whatever you can use for anointing oil, get your Bible. Because me and my wife are going to be up praying for you until you call me back and tell me that it's done. Because we're going to be in constant prayer until the phone rings and it's you. He said that I need you to go out there and rebuke it. Tell it that it's, you know, just don't talk to it.

If it tries to speak to you, don't listen. Command it to shut up because anything that it says is going to be a lie. do not listen to it. He goes, at some point, it may try to hurt her. It may act like it's going to hurt her, but it can't. It's not, he is, if you rebuke it and tell it that it has no power, it can't. He goes, it's going to try to act like it wants to hurt her so that you stop. If it gets you to stop, you've missed that opportunity.

Once you get it going, you have to keep going. He goes, you know, so I tell him, I'll do my best. Because if you need me, I will drive out tonight. Just call me if you can't do it. And I'll drive out tonight and I'll help you deal with this. So I'd go out to the living room and she was sitting on the couch and I walked up to her. And it's, there was a bunch of mixed emotions. I mean, it's not, I'm terrified because what if I can't do this?

I'm terrified. What if it does hurt her? You know, and it's my wife. Like, I don't want to be the cause of anything that hurts her. I don't want to, you know, and she looked like she was scared sitting on the couch, and I came up and I had my Bible in my oil, and I did it as the pre you told me to. I drew a cross on her forehead in the oil, because I actually had to go out to the kitchen and get more. I ended up just grabbing, like, the bottle of olive oil and asking God to bless the bottle of olive oil.

And I went in, and I put some on my finger, and I made a cross on her forehead. and I started praying. And I started off with the Lord's Prayer. And, oh, one other thing the pastor told me before I got off the phone with it, he told me that once it was complete and I felt that it was done, I had to have her say like the sinner's prayer because if she couldn't say the name of Jesus Christ, then it was still there. If she couldn't ask for Jesus to come into her heart, the demon was still there.

And if the demon left and she didn't fill that void that it left behind with something, it would come back worse. So I had to have her say the sinner's prayer once it was done and make sure that that was said and done. That way I knew for sure that the exorcism worked. So I went out, I anointed her head, and I started off with the Lord's Prayer. And she started like arching over the arm of the couch. And as I completed the prayer, I commanded the demon to release her. in the name of Jesus Christ you have no dominion over one of God's children

regardless of where she is in her faith were all God's children that's all I kept saying I didn't ask for a name because he told me not to speak to it not to converse with it at all so I just kept praying and then just kept commanding it that it released

because it had no power over her had no power over anything on this earth that belonged to God and everything belongs to God. And my ex-wife had some really long natural fingernails. And that hand reached up and she

dug those claws into my chest. And I grabbed her arm, made her let go, kept praying. It started like, did you have ever seen like in the movies like when they start twisting their wrists or their arms twist a little bit?

Yeah. Well, her hands started twisting. And I really, rebuke that in the name of Jesus. And then my ex-wife had asthma. And it was acting like it was putting her into an asthma attack. And I kept rebuking it. I said, you can't put her in an asthma attack.

You can't hurt her. You can't kill her. And this went on for, I felt like an eternity. I know it wasn't quite that long, but it felt like forever. And then finally I got her to say the Lord's Prayer. Once I, or not the Lord of the sinner's Prayer, once I realized, because I kept asking, well, once I could say, see it was her, I would tell her she had to say

the name Jesus Christ. At first she would get out, maybe Jesus, but she couldn't get out Christ. So finally, once she could say his name, I had her repeat the sinner's prayer after me. And she had no recollection of any of it

once it was done. None. Asked me why we were in the living room, like why we were on the couch, why I had her say a prayer. She doesn't remember any of it. She saw like bleeding claw marks on my chest and was like, what happened to you? No recollection of it whatsoever. That's really interesting. Do you think she was possessed for a long time?

No, I really don't. I think that when she went out that night, I don't know what was on her mind. I don't know what happened. I just think whatever it was, I think got her that night. It may have been something that may have been working at her for a little while. but whatever she was thinking, whatever's going through her head, I just think it was like right place, right time, or wrong place, wrong time. And it just, it decided that it was going to use that

as this moment of opportunity. And my faith grew after the place in Uniontown. I started, when I had issues when I was in Tennessee, I would, you know, clear them out. If I felt like something was routing it, long in my car, I would get rid of it. I started putting like a little pocket Bible in the glove box.

But I had never done anything like that before. And I haven't done anything since. I've done blessings on homes and stuff since then. But that was just something that, I mean, I hope I never have to do it again. Because it's, every time I have one of these encounters with something that it's almost like it leaves a little something behind you know what i mean yeah i can understand that but the things that i feel because it's but when these dark beings show up

i can feel their aggression i feel i feel whatever they're feeling at the moment and it's like it you can't unfeel that um it like the the thing with her i can't i'm never going to be able to forget doing an exorcism on my ex-life. I'm never going to forget the things

that happened in that apartment of the things that I went through it leaves an impression that you just don't ever

get away from. No matter how harsh you try to forget, they're just there. But yeah, that was me

doing an exorcism on my ex-life. It was scary. I was terrified of any possible

outcome outside of what actually happened. Because I've seen it in the movies. You know, you're watching horror movies and Hollywood way over dramatizes it most of the time unless that kind of stuff actually does happen. I don't know. I've only had experience with one. But that's what I was afraid of.

It was like the Hollywood version of an exorcism. And it definitely left to, you know, for a lack of better terms, it left a scar. Yeah, now with exorcisms, not all of them obviously are the same. They go through different, I don't know, extremes. I've seen exorcisms where the person is needing to be held down by many people. They're growling, they're yelling, they're yelling, they're speaking in another language, like a weird language. It's like, oh, but I'm about da, da, da, you know, things like that. It's like really, like crazy, you know? than I've seen exorcisms that are much more calm and not as extreme. So I don't...

I wonder if it has to do with, like, how long that spirit has the person of their body. Yeah, you know, because I do believe that demonic entities can possess a person, not only the person, but like the family. It could be a demonic entity that has been with that family for a very long time, generations. Almost like a curse. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, when that happens, I think that, you know, you're dealing with something

that has a very strong grip on that person and the family. And that's, you know, an uphill battle. But listen, Chris, man, I really appreciate it coming on the show and sharing the stuff, man. It's a very interesting encounters and stories that you had to share with us. And, dude, I wouldn't want to wish that on anybody. Nobody. I know.

It's been, it's been interesting. And I still see things every now and then now. At first it was like something open to floodgates. I've learned to kind of dial it back to kind of, if I don't pay attention to whatever's around, it's like, you know, it's not that it goes away, but it's almost like they want the attention.

So if you don't give it to them, they just stop acting up a little bit, almost like a child. Um, but it's been, it was interesting. Like, it, uh, and I'm sorry if you heard any background noise, you know, talking about this stuff. I get a little, my nerves get rattled, but I don't smoke in my house. So I come out to smoke a cigarettes. If you heard doors or whatever, I was just trying to walk on my porch to have a cigarette.

Okay. Yeah, that's no problem. Um, so yeah, every time I, when I talked about, I said I've only talked about stuff like this with, like, a couple close friends, like my family knows some of it. but yeah it's just like the nerves kind of start flaring up from everything so i just go smoke a cigarette i feel better yeah man no problem well chris listen i really do appreciate you coming on the show and sharing with us and uh you know we're friends on facebook so feel free to keep in touch with you man oh definitely and thank you for let me uh come on the show and talk about this i do appreciate it well that's the show everybody i really hope you enjoyed it and if you did enjoy it please go ahead and share the show with your friends, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, TikTok, email,

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