The Confessionals - RELOADED | 180: A Life of Abductions

Episode Date: June 3, 2024

In Episode 180: A Life of Abductions, we speak with guest Ryan who seems to have been involved in a lifelong abduction scenario. Ryan goes into detail about what he’s been experiencing - and with whom he has been experiencing it. We cover all the abduction “bases” on this episode, and even ask Ryan if he believes that time travel was involved in these abductions. Ryan has only just started to speak out about the strange things he’s been through, and we welcome him to The Confessionals to unload this story that has been weighing him down for far too long.The Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: merkelfilms.comWatch Expedition Dogman: merkelfilms.comAFFILIATESPrepare with Valley Food Storage: https://alnk.to/2uG55AOGet your Nephilim Blaster 2000: https://alnk.to/9mnHak1Bluecosmo Satellite phones: https://alnk.to/e769EipSee Bigfoot with Sionyx night vision: https://alnk.to/bEhxr3FEmergency medical with My Medic: https://alnk.to/dpr6QM4Black Beard Fire Starters: https://alnk.to/4BFcIbeEcoFlow Power Generators: https://alnk.to/flvpAQwGoDark Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/5jke3rkEMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

Merkel Media I guess it's time to go back in time Are you telling me you built a time machine Kind of a Dolorean Time is but a stubborn illusion I have a lot of memories

Of the past People are time traveling within themselves Time travel Is possible This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed but no one was supposed to talk about it. Wingers reach up underneath the door,

curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand,

and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. somebody else shoot them in the face shoot them in the face they basically decapitating feel something and i look over and there are two small gray entities and they're literally i'm getting pulled off the bush and i touch air because i know i'm seeing hey i'll reload it yep welcome to the show everybody you're listening to the confessionals i am your host tony merkle thank you for being here if you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show go ahead and shoot me an email or go to the website professionalspodcast.com, hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well.

Either way it works for me, just get a hold of me. And if you're interested in having an extra show every week, every Thursday, we release an extra bonus show for members only on the website. So if that interests you, go to the confessionalspodcast.com and become a member today. Now, I want to let everybody know I had some fun this past weekend, and I created a Christmas ugly sweater, or should I say an ugly Christmas sweater. Yeah, an ugly Christmas sweater. And it has to do with an up and coming episode that we're going to be broadcasting in December, December 17th, actually. We're going to be doing an interview talking about the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy. Did he kill himself? Is he dead? Who killed him? What's going on behind the

scenes of this whole thing when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein? And I created an ugly Christmas sweater kind of supporting that episode. So if you want to check it out, go to the confessionalspodcast.com. the store section and you'll see it in there. I want to let you know that this ugly Christmas sweater is only going to be for sale until December 31st. So if it interests you on purchasing it, I would hop on it fast because we are going to take it down for sale at the end of next month. Now, on today's show, we're going to be talking to Ryan. And it's a little bit of a different interview wherein the fact that I did not know much about Ryan before I sat down to talk to him. He sent me a very vague email. My wife saw it first. She talked to me about it. She said, this guy has a lifelong of abduction scenario, but that's pretty much all he said. Should I ask for more information? And I said, nope, I actually want to talk to this guy already because when somebody tells me they're being abducted their entire lives, I got to hear the story at least and make a decision afterwards whether I think it's showworthy or not. Well, obviously, I think it's show worthy because we're airing it today.

Ryan comes on to talk about his experiences when it comes to feeling like he's been abducted his entire life. And we're going to get into that right after the trailer for this coming Thursdays member episode. And I'm actually really excited about playing it because it means the return of my producer, Dalton. Dalton took a few weeks off from producing these member episode trailers because he actually lost a very close friend of his. In fact, it's his best friend. and I wanted to give him his space, and I'm really excited that Dalton has made a return to the show. And as his return to the show comes, he is bringing a great members episode trailer. So let's go get to it right now.

What I really want to do is I want to talk to you about this entity that seems to have been following you. And to me, it sounded like you were being taunted by this. And it seems like as soon as you started stepping into it, it lost its own. motivation to taunt you. Like it was getting off on the fact that it was scaring you. Is that how you feel? Kind of not really. He is actually in the room with me right now. I can feel him. It's something that like, it's like a thing that just follows me throughout my life. Like we've moved houses and it's been following me and following me. You know, I feel like it's something that is waiting for the moment still to just destroy me. Like whether I, whether it, you know,

know, taunts me so much where I commit suicide or just physically destroys me. And I know right now, you know, it's like that, you know, you watch some of these shows and it's like the person with a six sense, you know, they have the telepheus or whatever. They have that like spiritual superpower or whatever. Well, I honestly think this thing knows that I have this ability to just like crush, like I could just crush like evil in a sense. Like that's kind of how I feel like my job is. Like it's a good versus evil, like God gives some of these people like this power for whatever reason. You know, I don't really know the reason. I don't understand the reason.

I'm not a perfect person. So I think this thing is trying to destroy something that knows it can destroy it. So it's like defending itself, kind of, if that makes sense. So it's in the room with you right now? Yeah, no, it's in the room with me right now. I actually saw it in the back. I'm by a computer screen. The computer screen's off, and I saw it.

fade in and out of a wall behind me, like, for about 10 seconds while I was on the phone with you. I'm waiting for it to, like, turn off my phone because it's done that before. I actually had pictures of it on one of my phones, and it deleted them off my phone. Like, completely deleted it. Do you ever feel like it is trying to possess you at some way? It's obviously interacting with you internally through your dreams. do you ever feel like this is actually going to a place where it's actually trying to house itself inside of you?

No, I don't think so. You know, because it does seem to house itself within my house somewhere. Like, it won't be, like, if I leave the house, like, it's not there, you know, it's not, like, with me, like, in the car. But when I come back to the house, like, it's back in the house. It's gone from both houses in Ohio to like the one in South Carolina that I live in now. All right. Today we got Ryan on the show.

Ryan, how you doing, man? Pretty good, man. How about yourself? Doing good, doing good. So you're an interesting guy, man. So I hear you've been dealing with a lifelong abductee scenario. And, you know, when you shot us an email with your experience, you really didn't go into a whole lot of details. and my wife usually goes through the emails before I get to them.

And she mentioned your email to me. And she said, do you want more information? Actually, she said to me that she was about to send you an email asking for more information. And I told her, I said, now, don't even bother. I said, I want to talk to this guy. Because just the way you described it in the email, you said that it was a lifelong abduction scenario. I was like, you know what, let me just talk to this guy and see what he has to say.

So we're going into this one, not knowing. a whole lot about your story, but I'm very excited about talking to you because of the fact that, you know, this is something you've been dealing with your whole life and you just recently started coming out and talking to people about it. So without any further delay in your story stuff, man, could you please share with us what you started experiencing, when you started experiencing it, and just kind of walk us into some of these scenarios you've been going through? Yeah, okay. So at first, at first, like, I guess, conscious, like recollection, of anything was around

2003. Now, I later on started like with most subducties and anything in the paranormal. There was a lot of signs early on in life, but they really didn't I really didn't think much about until later on. So I'll just get to kind of the first

thing that was pretty crazy that I got like over the top thing that ever happened. That was around 2003. I was going to Blockbuster video if anybody remembers those with a friend of mine and one of his friends. So we saw three lights in the sky and kind of like balls of light.

And they were, they would join together and then they would shoot back out, out all different ways. They would come back and form and they would disband again and then come back. And we watched this for about an eight-mile drive until we got to the Blotbuster. When we got there, a lot of the people inside came out, and they were watching it, too. And that was the first thing that kind of curiosity. But what was weird about that event when I looked back is when we were watching that going down the road, nobody really spoke about it. We weren't like in awe like we kind of came to be later.

It was just a real quiet moment and I always thought that was kind of strange But never Not much about it after that And I also want to point out that Anything UFO-related Paranormal, I never had an interest in I didn't

I was just indifferent I didn't look it up I didn't have no curiosity about it I didn't read books watch movies yada yada yada So I went on You know pretty much about my day in life and around two,

two, three years later, I was living with my, um, my, um, current wife at the time. And,

um, this was in a little town called, uh, China Grove. It's also in North Carolina. And we were staying with her mom and, uh, right beside our bedroom in the back was probably a few trees and about

10 foot past that was an open, um, open field. So one night It was probably around 3 in the morning I woke up and I was in this weird Kind of like fog

Sound was different It's like I couldn't hear anything If that makes sense I just remember being really thirsty And I'm getting up out of bed I'm seeing my wife at the time She's sitting there, she's asleep And then I'm in really drowsy

filling, then all of a sudden three balls of light come in. And I remember being right around the size of like a softball. I was really close to the window where they came in at probably just 10 feet away on the other side of the bedroom. And they come in, they come in really slowly. They just come straight through the glass. they were transparent

when they went in front of the TV I still see the TV behind them and then that was just like one scene the next thing I remember it was just like a cut scene and that's

that's me feeling like I'm choking and suffocating and then I look to my left and I see a being probably three and a half foot tall

standing by my wife straight ahead, where the TV would be, I see one standing there. Again, they're like sort of transparent. I can see through them, the same height. Then there's one completely on top of me. And he is, it is six inches from my face. Just stare, and this is what would be your typical, what they call gray, black eyes, you know slanted big black eyes just the typical the typical what we know now to be as grace and um what was weird is it wasn't sitting on me like straddling me it was as if it was

standing up on the floor and it was coming through the bed so i'm laying home the bed and it's almost like it's coming out of my stomach standing up that makes sense and uh it's it's this I can feel it uh paralyzing me just by its uh book and I've never I've never experienced no kind of fear like that and uh ever not before or anything anything comes close to just that just that looking at me um uh I can't move uh I'm I'm I feel like I'm barely able to move move my finger and just I can move my eyes a little bit I can see that um My wife at the time as she is being subdued, I guess there's a being standing by her, and obviously it's got some kind of control with her.

And then next thing I know, I wake up and I wake up and I don't, at the moment, I don't have no memory of that. I just get up. It's like 5 o'clock, 5 a.m. I get up and I go get something to drink and I come back and I go to bed. and I don't think nothing of it. I started, you know, researching, went on with me, you know, with that event, and I started to send a lot of people, you know, I've never met, had similar stories with, like, light coming through the room and not being able to move.

Now, this was all new to me now. It's all, like, common, you know, abduction, a baseline on all, like, abduction. But at the time, you know, this was completely new to me, and I was just finding it all. And it really made me, it was really scary because I knew this was real, because people I've never met right and drawn the same descriptions, because I had drawn drawings. And from that particular event, I could send them over if you like.

And so I was just, I was scared, but I was more curious of what was going on more than anything. that next night I asked my wife if she remembered anything Anything funny about the night? She said no And I kind of didn't even speak to her about it I know some people would be like

Well how would you not tell nobody I can't explain it But as much as it's a shock When it's happening It's like you're almost It's like they put some like hold on you to not really talk much about it immediately or in the moment or afterward. I can't explain that, but I kind of just stayed to myself trying to learn about it.

So that was around 2006. Around 2007, we moved to Florida, Sarasota, Florida. And on the way down there, and this was in a U-Haul truck, and on the way down, we stopped at a rest stop. Georgia. And again, I woke up and out of it on top of me again. And this was in a U-Haul van. And I was like, you know, I knew that this was like a phenomenon. It didn't matter where you were. This just wasn't like just for one location I was at. Like, this could be anywhere. And I also can't explain that I could tell it was the same exact being that was on top.

top of me before. Nothing telepathic was sad, but I just I knew it was the same one. And that was also just like just a real quick scene. And then it was over. Didn't speak about it

to knowing again. And I also want to point out when I started researching this stuff And when I would go back in that first event, when I would see the lights coming in, and then the next thing I know I would see them, I later found out any of your audience who's had stuff from adoption or whatever they want to call and contact me. And if you're ever wondering, if you've been abducted, I'm not trying to be pessimistic here, but if typically if you see them, that means you're being brought back. that's never, that's never like before you leave.

So me seeing the balls of light is, is them coming. And me seeing them is them leaving and pretty much flash in my brain or whatever. And that's exactly what it felt like. That's what research is pretty much shown that I've read up on it. So, and these kind of, those kind of encounters, scenarios happened a few more times. And it was inconsistent. It was pretty much pampered throughout my life.

That first one being the most traumatic, the other ones were always this, them leaving. And I've never done regression therapy, but I actually found a woman in my area that I'm pretty much made up my mind And I'm actually going to go see here because I am curious about what has happened in those moments that I can't remember. Let's see. What else? Okay.

So in between all this, I started having a lot of strange synchronities. At the time, me and my wife, we weren't together no more, and I was dating. this kind of a bad marriage kind of ended really bad and state different girls and this that and just being single because we were married for a while

and every girl that I would talk to or go on dates with would always have an owl tattoo and it got to the point that I would be able to guess if a girl had one

before I even asked it would just be like it would just be fun. I'd be like, do you have an owl tattoo? And they would always be taken back. And I have proof of all this. This was like five or six,

five or six different women who had al tattoos. And I didn't, I didn't think that out. It was just, okay, that's crazy. Well, as,

you know, your knowledge of the paranormal evolves. You know, I'm looking more into, into the phenomenon. I come across the author, Mike Clell and his book, um,

Al's, UFOs, and the deduction phenomenon, I believe it's called. It could be wrong. And I remember the hair stood up on my arm because I was seeing all these connections to people I was just randomly

meeting who had these owl tattoos and also they also shared abduction stories too. And that was me not searching these people out for that. There's just random occurrence that they would have a UFO story and they would have an al tattoo and i don't know what that means but after reading uh you know

his book i just thought you know there's something there i don't know what it is but it's it's it's something uh something very strange and uh as far as anything that happened in my life before before that first encounter like i said looking back i see a lot of weird things i don't think what normal about my childhood. I used to always dream. I don't know if it's dream or astro projection, but when I, you know,

later on research this, a lot of people lead to that. And I would always come up out of my body. This was like eight, nine years old, for years after, I would come up out of my body and just float through the ceiling and I would fly around my neighborhood.

And it would always be this, what would feel like, this invisible, force or some books like a cord that I could never get away from my body completely. So I wouldn't float away if that makes any sense. And I would always come back to my body. This was like the most reoccurring dream that I ever experienced. Well, I've definitely heard of that before when it comes to like astral projection out of body experiences. People talking about like, I don't know if it's a visible chord or if it's, you know, just this feeling, but just this feeling of being still connected

it to your body and it's like you can, you'll always find your way back. And as far as you being a kid and having out of body experiences, that's something that, you know, happens to, I wouldn't say a lot of kids, but there are plenty of children who have had out of body experiences and they didn't ask for it. They weren't in control of it. It just was happening. And that happens to, you know, anybody, really kids, adults. And it's something that kind of freaks me out because it tells me that you're not in control of some of these experiences on that level. And it could be, for me, scary.

Were you ever scared during these out-of-body experiences? Or was it something where you were? Yes, 100%. And how I knew I always felt like this connection where I wouldn't get lost from my body is what I would always come back. I would always be like a sucking, a sucking power that would come slamming back into my bed in my body. And every time that I would hit my body, I would wake up screaming and just bloody murder. I mean, my mom would tell the story better than me.

But yeah, it was, it was, it was terrifying. And, you know, I also would always always see owls outside my window too. and these were things like I said they weren't funny until later on that they make me kind of kind of wonder like always in areas that that shouldn't even been populated with with them yeah there's something with the owl too i mean i've definitely heard of you know obviously there's an occultic connection to you know owls but there's also this UFO abductee connection too and you're the first person that i've actually talked to uh in person that has made that connection and has had that experience. But I've definitely heard of,

you know, owls showing up synchronicity with the synchronicity of people who are being abducted by UFOs, extraterrestrials, whatever you want to say the abduction is happening with. What do you think the significance of the owl is? Do you have any ideas? I thought about that a lot. There's the whole screen memory thing where people see them right before they're about to get abducted. I think that's a possibility. But in my case, it's always been if whether I see a real owl or owls on a on a billboard, a bumper sticker, a girl that I'm talking to has a tattoo, there's always this like,

this connection to the paranormal with it, whether I see the tattoo that I immediately just a random occurrence engage in a conversation about something that has to do with the phenomenon.

You know, all in warringed stuff, I don't know. I don't know the definite answer, but there is some some strong connection. I think Mike Clelland and his research on it is is kind of showing that.

And even he doesn't know, but there is some correlation. But I'm not sure. I also have this, and I ask my mom about this, I have this memory. It's just a memory as a child and a kid, I always as an adult of a very big owl, like a three-foot-tall owl coming down and picking up our dog as a child. I remember this, and dropping it. And nobody in my family or anybody recalls this memory with me. So I don't know if it was subconscious or what,

but I've always just had this memory of a very, very big owl that was, you know, later on, you know, I'm thinking, no owls are this big. This was an all white owl. It's just, you know, weird stuff like that. You know, this is, again, this was all before. I have any curiosity about. about this stuff. Right.

And then, you know, through, after the first initial, which I believe was an abduction, I know definitely a contact, but I truly believe that I was taken. Just by on the research I've seen with other people, but ever since then, also just, not just the synchronicities, but, like, psychic moments. like anytime somebody's on my mind or I'm thinking about somebody or anything like that, I'm going to get a call, I'm going to get a text, I'm going to run into them. Just weird, strange stuff like that. And here's some of the off-the-wall synchronicities that, if you could calm that, I don't know.

After living in Florida, I came back to North Carolina, and I had some neighbors that I became friends with, and there's some other people in the city. well, when I moved back to North Carolina, you know, 700 miles away, I'm at a gas station by my house, and I see this paramedic come in. And the girl looked familiar. She was in front of me at the cash register, and she turned around. I recognize her. She was my neighbor in Florida.

I mean, you could go anywhere. The odds of meeting somebody that far away, I mean, R1 and whatever the, you know, population is, you know? to them to them be working right in my city. And then another friend that I had down there ended up being my neighbor like two months later without us being in communication with ourselves or anything. And this was all like around the same time. I mean, that's just, those are just crazy odds.

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of synchronicities. And it's one of those things where the person going through it, you have to be left with a decision to do I make something of this or is this just a coincidence and I'm just I'm losing my mind. You know, it's and that's where I understand where you're talking about earlier where it's like, you know, the idea of talking to people and not talking to people, it's got to be hard to, you know, come out and just, you know, be like, this is what happened. This is what's going on. I know it sounds crazy and maybe it is a little crazy. I don't know, but this is what's going on. It's got to be hard to talk about it. You know,

publicly. Oh yeah, and, you know, the relationship I had, you know, I, you know, somebody that's a really good, you know, she just wasn't ever really, you know, open to the idea. So, you know, wasn't just like, chastised me for it or anything like that, but I knew just after a couple conversation, this ain't something I can talk about with this person. And, you know, kind of kept it to, you know, to myself. I told some of, close friends and and that's when I found out you know so I was good by talking to people

typically they may share a similar story and that's that's kind of what I started noticing people don't just you know people you interact on a daily basis aren't just walking around with shirts on saying hey you know talk to me about this but what you do a lot of the times you'll find out that a lot of people

have had experiences they just you know they're just kind of waiting for somebody else to maybe ask them if that makes sense. Yeah, it does make sense. You know, this is kind of circling back around to what we were just talking about a few minutes ago, but the idea of the owls, it just hit me. I'm sitting here thinking, I just talked to somebody yesterday, and it just hit me now. I was talking to a guy who had, you know, some different experiences. And, you know, it was, there were just various incidences. But

his brother recalled seeing a UFO land on the foothill of their property, like a quarter mile away from their property. And he also recalled his grandfather finding three to four foot tall owls in their barn. Isn't that weird? It's a synchronicism. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, not just the story is crazy enough, but just you coming across the story like, what, Yesterday. Yeah, I talked to them yesterday.

Exactly. And that's, and after, you know, I read Mike Cohn's book, that stuff kept snowballing into my life. Again, it's important to know that it happened before, but because we all, you just like, you know, suggesting stuff because, you know, whatever, like the better word is, just because you read it. But a lot of the stuff happened before. It only started like multiplying afterwards. And it's like the more that you don't ignore it, you just, kind of, I don't know, maybe not embrace it, but you just kind of like, all right, say, the universe, whatever, is kind of winking and you just kind of, you just kind of go about your business. Like, those things happen more and more and more often.

Where does that leave you now with all this stuff? I mean, are you, are you in the middle of still being abducted in your mind, or do you think that this is stuff that's kind of passed by in life? Again, so the last, the last time that I can come I just remember seeing anything like that, like in my room has been years ago. But I do want to add that my ex-wife that I was going to have my first experience. She later on after we went together, she told me that she used to have experiences too when she lived in California's where me and her ever met. And it's just funny she never told me then.

I don't know. Maybe she wanted to keep it to herself with me. Who knows, but she had experiences all the time where, you know, the same exact, you know, the same exact, you know, the same adjunction scenario. One time she said that, this one she had her daughter, she woke up, her daughter, she woke up in just like cloudy kind of twilight zone state early morning, and there's a being right there, and she could look down the hallway and, she can look down the hallway and see one standing by her doorway where her child was.

And she kept saying, you're not real, you're not real, real. And telepathically, she said it said, then watch this, and then the baby started crying. And this was like a story that when she told me, it was like terrified the hell out of me. And I guess maybe that's why she didn't tell me originally. I was kind of really confused about what was going on with me. But sometimes I wonder if by meeting her, if she was being abducted and studied on and researched, then I kind of got picked up by default. That always makes me wonder because like the extreme paranormal stuff, like UFOs,

none of that stuff happened until after me and her were together. And it was nothing we ever talked about either, which is just strange. I mean, I have a little scenario like the stuff I mentioned when I was a child, but any of the UFO stuff, it was after. It was after me and her. And honestly, most of it was, most of it subsided after me and her broke up too. I don't know what the heck that means. Is there any communication between the two of you anymore? No.

A couple of years ago when I was looking at, on Mufon to find, because you could put in like the day and find if anybody seen UFOs around this particular time. And I was trying to find the exact dates and time because she might remember. And I asked her about that event. I called her and we talked for a little bit. And she remembers, you know, these episodes and around the time. And, you know, she was able to help me with a lack of memory around that time.

But that was it. she is from Native American descent. And I've been told like that that's a popular trait for abductees too. I don't know if that's why she was abducted. And then I was just because I was with her. But I mean, I don't know. But yeah, a lot of it just subsided after me and her broke up. Yeah, it's interesting.

I'd be interested to hear if she has experiences to this day or what's going on with her. When you guys were moving to Florida, and that whole thing happened, I mean, was that involving her? Yes, yes. Okay, so do you think you were abducted, like, at that moment with the U-Haul?

Yeah, I do. Just based on stuff I've read afterward, they don't, it's just, they don't just typically show up. it's usually just what I've read and people's regression that you're usually

being brought back at that time and I just feel it I can't it's just annoying that I know that I was taken

and she was with you in that situation right like she was in the U-Haul yes so do you think she was taken with you

most likely yeah okay now and hopefully you know I'm thinking about like I said

doing regression or if you were against it, but I want to know more. I have a lot of conscious memories, so that's one reason why I want to delve into this because it's not like I don't have no memory at first, you know? I just want to know more. Do you think that there's, I guess, a time travel situation going on here then,

where they abduct you and then they put you back in your truck while you're, because you were driving, right? No, this was actually at a truck stop. We were all sleeping. I got you. Okay. That's where I was. Yeah, yeah.

But I mean, even that, did you have any lost time experience? Not that I can learn because I never really paid attention to what time it was when I kind of, you know, it didn't like, kind of like when you wake up in these scenarios, you don't really have, can't really get your bearings. And that first scenario that happened when I seen the light orbs coming through the window, I did straight ahead with the TV and an alarm clock. And I seen that it was like 3 or 4 a.m. And then I remember, like, the next scene when I see them, and then I'm waking up, I remember it saying 5 a.m.

So that was like the only time I was able to actually see. And it was just a split second difference and then two hours that went by. There was another pretty, like I said, most of them have been just that where I see them right in front of my face, usually one for each person who may be with me. and, you know, just kind of like put so much fear in me and then boom, it's over with. But there was another time when living in Florida

where I woke up and went to go to the bathroom and to go to the bathroom, I had to walk past the living room, walk past the kitchen, and through the kitchen, it was the bathroom. So I go in there, and I do remember this was like, around the same time it's like 3 a.m.

I go in the bathroom, use the bathroom. I go to open the door and it won't open and I'm kind of fidgeting with it. I'm thinking I was like that. I locked myself in here somehow. It finally opens. And when I open the door, I should be seeing the refrigerator

and part of the kitchen straight ahead. But I don't see this anymore. I see everything is in like a reddish, oranges haze. The floor is dirt, and there is a couple tables coming out of the ground, the floor, sorry. Metallic tables, there's at least two, one straight ahead of me. And when I'm walking out of this bathroom, again, I'm in this twilight zone moment again. I'm not freaking out.

Sound is gone. There's no sound again. Straight ahead to its back towards me is a being in a rope. And I can't remember if I'm like, I don't remember walking up on it. I just remember, again, it's like the scenes change. And then it's turned around. And this would be what a duck used to call like mantids, The preyed mantis, that's exactly what, that's exactly what it looks like.

It wasn't as tall as other people described. This was like, probably six foot. And it was the most horrifying thing I've ever seen in my life. And it turned around. Again, it had this, it had this robe on that was really old. Old in the sense that not the time period, but it was really weathered too. and it was telepathically it said it's time

and it took its long spindly finger and touched the middle of my head and next thing I know I remember falling kind of out of the door in my closet onto my bedroom floor like falling through the door of the closet

back in my bedroom and then I like don't really remember anything else after that. That was another crazy story. You weren't originally in the bedroom, though, right? Yeah. Yeah, I got up.

I got up. I had to go pee. Went up, went to the bathroom. When I walked out of the bathroom, my house was not there. And then after it touched me on the head, I was back in my bedroom, but in my closet falling out of, like, the door.

kind of like just kind of falling out of the door like uh i get opening like me just kind of falling out okay just remember like and it's been kind of waking up as a as a as a uh as a as a fail pretty much like kind of like to my knees and then uh i do remember a little bit after that i was kind of startled i went into the living room and um i had a cigarette it's kind of nerves were shook up and then i went to bed i wasn't telling talking to nobody about about this stuff either. That was dumb. That was pretty,

and it's weird because I never had issues, like real traumatic issues about being able to go to sleep, you know, thinking about when it was going to happen. I always thought that was, but every now and again, if I got it into my head, I would have issues like, you know, but pretty much my life would always just return to normal. I wouldn't really think much about it. but here in the last few years

researching more and meeting more people who shared these experiences and stuff it's really got me intrigued again but yeah like most of the stuff has subsided with me I have two kids now

being a dad but I'm still about this whole phenomenon and you know what that all meant I wonder if does it happen to my kids I mean, that's kind of the stuff I think of now. Yeah, I can understand that. I mean, if I was going through these things, I'd be worried about, you know, my kids as well. I mean, even with what I do and stuff, I'm always very careful as to, you know, what's going on in my own home because, you know, I got a kid now and I don't want him being affected by anything negative.

So far, so good. So far, we've been pretty well protected spiritually at the house. But, you know, that's a big, that's a big concern. That's a big concern. and it's something that isn't too far-fetched to be concerned about because a lot of times people who are dealing with abduction scenarios, their parents have experienced similar things, and their children tend to have some kind of experiences. I talked to a lady a couple weeks ago who she was dealing with a lot of paranormal type stuff,

and it turns out her son started drawing pictures of what she saw in her bedroom that it was attacking her. So clearly these things were presenting themselves to her child as well. And so, I mean, it's definitely something to be concerned about and to look into and be alert about. What do you think this whole thing is, though? I mean, the whole push behind the idea of abductions and, you know, extraterrestrials abducting human beings and stuff. I mean, you've had time to think about it. Why do you think this is going on? Do you ever get a sense to what's going on and why? Question.

I guess the why. But I've started, just looking back and I'm like connecting dots, this is my only opinion. And I shared this to look at all the other stuff with these and not so much contact these. But that's that and anybody who's had this happen will tell you there's this there's this knowing when you're in their presence that they come across. not totally biological. They just, robotic almost,

like almost, some kind of mix. And I don't know, I can't even put into words how, you know, I kind of feel that way. It's just that, you know,

um, anytime I would have a thought in my mind and they would kind of answer it, it was always, it just seemed like out of a, a computer database of like common responses or something. It was never nothing that seemed genuine. It just seemed like like an automatic email response kind of thing. I mean, it just didn't seem something that was like biological.

I know how people say, you know, they're, you know, I guess this horrible bedside manner they have. And that's where a lot of people think, you know, that they are malicious. And that's a whole other thing, whether it's good or bad. But that I don't know. I think that's above us to even understand. But I just feel that it's the responses that they've, and the simple words they gave me and other abductees is that they just seem sort of Andrew like, I don't know if you know who, what's his name?

Darrell Sam's, the big UFOologist for like 40 years now, but he seems to think the same that they're clones manufactured. But I do want to point out that usually, because there's three or four always presented, and one that's a little taller that you're typically dealing with one-on-one, or my case, that one usually seems more real, if that makes sense,

and everything else seemed like 100% cloned. I don't really answer you a question, but that's just one part I wanted to add is that I don't know if they really have to come across space and time as advanced as they are. I don't know if they send, it just seems like a surrogate thing

or it's some sort of been in space and time and they're actually where they are at and here at the same time or I don't know but I don't as far as maybe the agenda

and I'm not a pessimistic person but I've never felt good about it and that's because I felt like if you're highly intelligent and you that's just this is like us as humans if we're more intelligent

than animals beneath us and we we have a responsibility by being gifted that intelligence. And that's by being kind. And I know all humans don't do this, but we don't have dominion over everything. Like, well, we shouldn't anyway. And if they're that as extras or that intelligent,

then they could do things to not come across as being, be it feeling kidnaps violated everything that it's not in the category of good and I feel like

if they're so intelligent they have these capabilities most part you just don't hear about it and I and I think that people

who have honestly that have sometimes good experiences I think that's all BS I think they tell you tell you what they

what you want to hear and it's usually a basic, you'll be fine, you're okay. This is what they always say. It doesn't seem genuine. It doesn't seem real. Yeah, I think people who have good experiences and stuff. I mean, maybe if it is BS, maybe that's just the memories that they have, though. You know, maybe that they, because, I mean, if these things are abducting people,

maybe they have, not even maybe, they probably do have the ability to adjust your memory and adjust what you think and all that stuff. So, I mean, it might be just a reflection as to what was implanted into their memories. Yes, exactly. But just the basic act of being taken is not cool. It's not cool. So whether, you know, and I get it, you know, sometimes if a traumatic thing happens, you do need to walk away with all right, well, what was the benefits in this? Because you have to live with it.

So you do need to define that, but you can't disregard that being taken against your will. I know there's some people who said that this theory that we made in an agreement before we came here, okay? My only problem to do some, to do some mission or something, my only problem with that is, if you can't consciously recall it, it doesn't count in my books. If I don't remember making some deal, then it doesn't, it doesn't count. I mean, it doesn't give you a right to take people, take people's children, and I don't know. if you're so highly involved and there's better ways of doing this. But, you know, those kind of questions are just kind of like never ending.

That's kind of the pursuit of all this. Yeah, I mean, there's tons of questions. And the problem is there's a lot of people with opinions and opinions differ and people get so set in the nature of their opinions and that, you know, I'm right, you're wrong. That doesn't line up with what I think and what I believe. It's like, just because you think something, just because you believe something doesn't, mean what you think and believe is right or all right. It might be just partly right. And there might be somebody out there in the world that has another piece of the puzzle that you can use to really get a full picture as to what's going on. But when dealing with this stuff, the more time that goes on,

the more I see that this affects people on a very deep level, people who are abducted, but even people who aren't abducted, but just looking into the topics. And we all formulate our own thoughts and opinions. And sometimes we get so caught up in what we believe that we now have turned off other people's stories, other people's experiences, their opinions because it doesn't line up with what they already come into the situation, quote unquote, knowing. Yeah, that's a good point. And that's what anything that it's an opinion of mine now, that's not kind of set in stone because I'm by very well years from now, look at this different. And, you know, because there is no answers. I mean, that we all

have like a little piece of the puzzle. That's why it's always important to listen to others. I'm not totally saying you know, for example, that that they're bad or good. I just want to know more. And in one benefit that I can take away from all this,

the biggest thing was that it really, even after a lot of the contacts decided, it opened me up to the realm of all things possible in this world. My curiosity for so much other stuff,

you know, quote unquote, going down the rabbit hole and finding out so much other stuff that, you know, maybe we're never taught in school, you know, good things, bad things, everything. And, you know, it's some, it's some amazing stuff out there that

we couldn't have sense of, and it's some terrifying stuff, but I truly believe that knowledge is power, and you know, for people who have experienced anything like this, it's, it's kind of a blessing, somewhat because kind of the veil is kind of lifted a little bit and you start seeing the world and how it is that it's not this, this, you know, rat race that you think, you know, the grind every day, going to work family, like, it's bigger than that.

And I look at, you know, my experience is leading me to, like, open those doors and just seeing how, you know, crazy, you know, the world is. Yeah, and let me clarify with you. I agree with you. I don't think abductions are positive scenarios. I personally do not believe that. From the outside looking in, as far as I know, I don't think I've been abducted. But looking at the scenario and looking at people's stories, I don't think it's a good thing. And anytime somebody is taken against their will, I don't look at it as a good thing. When something's coming into somebody's house in the middle of the night and taking them without their permission, it's not a good thing. Kidnapping isn't a good thing. And so I don't view abductions as a positive

thing or anything like that. I just, when it comes to these things, I try to keep an open mind and hear everybody out. And that gets me in hot water with a lot of different communities. Even, you know, my faith is, I'm a Christian. And so I get in hot water with other Christians obtaining thoughts about certain things that Christians don't typically believe. And it's like, I don't think God would be upset with me exploring knowledge and exploring thought and all that. Because if God is who he says he is, then all knowledge and truth should lead back to him in some way or another. And so I don't fear exploring things and opening myself up to other people's opinions and other thought concepts and stuff because, for me, the curiosity of life leads

there. And if I don't go where I'm curious, I'm just going to be a bored human being hating life. So I try to, but as far as you go, man, I mean, I hats off to you because, you know, going through what you went through and then diving into it and looking into it more and more, I don't think some people would have the guts to do that. I think they would feel like they're going to attract more attention if they did that. Yeah, I have these moments where, you know, every, I'll be on this kind of, this kind of moment where I'm always, you know, research and stuff, look stuff up, you know, just evolving my knowledge and curiosity of it. And then there'll be times where I'll think that I'll get my moments where I think, you know, like a lot of people say, anytime you look at the paranormal and starts looking back kind of thing. And I truly believe that. So I have my moments where I'm not, I don't get stuck on, you know, this all the time. But then, you know, for like an entire year, it'll be all, it'll be all consuming because I'll think back at the stuff that's happened to me. And that's kind of where I'm at now. with wanting to do this regression thing again.

I'm at this moment where I want to know more again. Because, I mean, it is. This doesn't fit, you know, our realm of possibility what we're taught. So, you know, I get used to what happened to me, but then there'll be days I'll just be sitting in traffic. And I'll think, like, holy hell, like, this is crazy as hell. Like, I want to know more. I'd be happy to update you once I go through with this.

regression thing because I've already talked to the woman she's been doing it for like 20 years and I've looked around for for years trying to find the right person so be happy to let you know how that goes. Yeah, absolutely. I was going to ask you where you're at with the whole regression thing. I mean, because it's got to be hard to find somebody who can do regression therapy and then also be willing to do regression therapy for somebody who was supposedly abducted. You know what I mean?

It's got to be hard to find somebody that fits the bill. Yeah, that's, that was, and I've looked years before, and that's what I would always run into. And I asked, I talked back and forth for like a week or so with Daryl Simpson. I was pretty much asking him how to go about that. And he gave me some pointers and point me in the right direction. And it was pretty much, you know, anybody is looking for that. It's just somebody who has a lot of, not necessarily just in uifology, just years of experience doing regression and a typical therapist who is into, you know, are open to, you know, spirituality.

Anything that's anything like that, just not your typical, you know, just I got, I got certified to be a therapist type person. Like, they need to be somebody who's open for these possibilities. And because, I mean, that's what you're going to want. And then them have an experience. And that's what I found. Typically, the therapists who do, you know, past life regression, just by default, they're already open to a lot of things. They're doing regression for you to remember a past life, you know.

I mean, they're already open to possibilities of a lot of stuff. So, I mean, the therapists who just do, you know, regression for, like, you know, post-traumatic stress, for just, you know, like, I don't think simple, but small things like that. You know, they're probably not best-futed, but, you know, the ones to do the past life regression and have years' experience doing that, that's where you're going to, that's where you're going to want to go from what I've been told. Yeah. I mean, I've never done regression therapy. had a need to, but I've actually talked to some actual regression therapists and actually a friend of

mine, he actually does hypnosis, or at least he used to do hypnosis, which is not exactly the same thing, but it's similar. And, you know, interesting stuff, though, nonetheless. Ryan, man, I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences, man. And, you know, if anybody reaches out to me, you know, that wants to be in touch with you and let you know, you know, information that they have or whatever, I'll be happy to pass on their information to you. Yeah, definitely. And if you want, I don't know what best email, but you just let me know with the one you have for me. I'll send you some photos, the original, like, drawings I took about the, like the first encounters that I experienced. Yeah, absolutely. If you, if you send me

an email with that, I would be happy to post those on the show notes. Yeah. It's okay with you. Yeah, that's fun. Awesome, man. Well, uh, dude, I look forward to that email and thanks for coming on and talking. All right, but I appreciate it. Thanks, man. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends.

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