The Confessionals - RELOADED | 198: The Evil Nicky

Episode Date: July 11, 2022

In Episode 198: The Evil Nicky, we have a two-guest show with both Perry and Dan joining us! First, we talk to Perry who details a very scary experience he had as a kid playing hide-and-go-seek with friends. He thought he was in the closet with a buddy... but it turned out it was something otherworldly. Then we bring on Dan who is a truck driver and happened to cross paths with a bigfoot one night while out in his rig!Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/join SPONSORSGET Surfshark: surfshark.deals/confessionals GET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tony GET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionals GET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!! Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Get Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5 CONNECT WITH US Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: [e-mail] Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI TikTok: @theconfessionals Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficial Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcas Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

Merkel. Media. I guess it's time to go back in time. Are you telling me that you built a time machine? Kind of a Dolorian? Time is but a stubborn illusion. I have a lot of memories of the past. People are time traveling within themselves.

Time travel is possible. Welcome to Reloaded Monday, everybody. We have episode 198. Evil Nikki, and we have a double banger here today. We have Perry and Dan, and Perry comes on and talks about his experience as a kid going through hide and seek and coming across something while he was seeking that he wasn't seeking. And then we bring on Dan, who's a truck driver, has a run-in with a Bigfoot in his rig. It's a great time with these two guys. And let me just tell you, friends, I have a lot of shorter interviews, kind of like these two today that have

piled up over time. I'm thinking about making just one giant mega, mini, interview episode. So let me know if you guys are interested in that. Just shoot us an email and say yes or no to that. That'd be great. All right. Let's get to this reloaded Monday right now. Okay. I'll reload it. This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, Dude, he slithered over to make. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.

And he starts running and firing up this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. And I look over and there are two small gray entities. And they're literally, I'm getting... pulled off the bed.

It was pushed, and I touched air. Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Welcome to the show. Everybody, you're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email.

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So if that interests you, go ahead and check that out at the confessionalspodcast.com. Now, before we get to today's show, I want to make a special announcement. Me and my dad are going to be launching our brand new podcast called Hammer Lane. legends. It's about truckers sharing their wild and crazy experiences from the road. Anything from crazy snowstorms they drove through to pile-ups to being stranded in the middle of nowhere, hitchhikers, anything wild and crazy that truckers go through on a daily basis, we're going to be having them come on the show and share those experiences with you. And it's not exclusively just truckers. We're actually going to have police officers on the show,

firemen, EMTs, people who have had crazy, wild experiences while out in the road. They're going to be coming on Hammer Lane Legends to share their experiences with you. I'm very excited about it. I hope you guys are as well. It's going to be a fantastic show. And if you want to share your experience on the show, Hammer Lane Legends, all you have to do is shoot us an email at Hammer Lane Legends at Gmail.com. That's Hammer Lane Legends at Gmail.com.

Or you can hit us up on social. Facebook is Hammer Lane Legends. Twitter is H-L-L podcast. And then on Instagram, it's as well, Hammer Lane Legends. So go ahead and hit us up on social media and email us if you have an experience you want to share with us on Hammer Lane Legends. Now this week we have Perry coming on the show and Dan. Perry comes on first and he shares his wild experience of running into like a demon-like entity with his friends when they were kids playing hide and go seek. They all saw it and have seemed very physical to the point that Perry didn't even realize that this was like a demon entity until something happened that tipped him off.

And then we're going to bring on Dan a fellow truck driver who actually. actually saw a big foot while he was out in the road driving. He's going to come on and share that experience after Perry. So let's get to the show right now. All right. Today we have Perry on the line. Perry, how you doing, man? I'm doing excellent. How are you? I'm doing well. Doing well. So you have a very interesting story. When I read through the email and stuff, I was just like, wow, you know, and me and my wife, Lindsay, we're talking about it. And it's not every day you get somebody on the line that experience something paranormal. But, you know, but yet it seems like it was physical at the same time.

So if you could, just kind of walk us into the details of the story. Where were you? What was going on? And how did this all unfold? All right. Yeah. So I can't recall my age. I was really young.

It was back when my parents were divorced. My dad was living in Oregon. So I had to be around seven, eight, or nine to recall. And so we're out there spending some vacation with my dad. And so it was just being my sister who's three years younger than me. So we were over at my dad's house and we're going to go over to a barbecue. at one of his co-worker's house at something that night. And he had two little girls around my age.

One was like two years older, and the other one was like my age. And the older one was named Nicole. We called her Nikki. And then her younger sister was Samantha. We called her Sammy. So we went over there for a barbecue one night over there and stuff like that. And we were playing in the backyard and whatnot.

As a night came to a close, you know, we went into the house to go hide and go see and stuff like that. And somehow Sammy got chosen to go play. to go play to be the seeker first. So, you know, and then we kind of all

like branched off and I think there's a couple of kids there with us so it had been me, Nikki, my sister and then like two younger boys too that were just

family friends and stuff there too. So we all branched off and I remember Sammy began to count and I remember running around the house or for a place to hide

and then I just see you know, Nicole go into her parents' room and kind of get to the closet and got to take it was dark that time so you know, it's in a dark room.

It's night outside. So there's on a whole light in the room. I just see something kind of go into Nicole's parents' room. I mean, I see Nicole kind of go into her parents' room and into the closet. So I follow her. She's got to know with a good hiding spot. All right. Her house, right?

So I follow her. And I'm like, hey, Nikki, can I hide with you? Like, yeah, come on, hurry. Sit down. So I jump in the closet and, you know, get in there. I kind of close the closet door, so Sam can't find us. and the parents' doors kind of closed at that point, too, to make sure that she's got to, like,

finding it's a little bit harder at the door. So, yeah, so Sammy begins to count and saying, you're not here I come, and so I'm just sitting there. I got my knees to my chest. I'm sitting back at the closet. I got some shoes to my left, and then Nikki is perfectly to my right, like right next to me, right next to me, like, an inch or so.

And I thought she was cute at the time, so I wanted to hide with her, you know, trying to work my game at the time. So who's hiding in the closet And I'm just sitting there And I finally hear him say, I hear you're right here not here I come And so I'm just sitting there I got my knees to my chest

And I'm just waiting, waiting And all of a sudden I just remember getting this Super cold feeling That just rust over my body just Just my entire spine And everything has got cold And I just like, well that's weird I'm just sitting there and I tap Nikki with my right arm

You know like when you nudge somebody say like WhatsApp or something So I just remember tapping her with my right arm I'm like hey Mickey hey Nikki and I just I get no response with whoever and then I just sit there and I'm like well that's kind of weird and so I whispered one time like hey Nicky and all of a sudden I just get this was a deep satanic voice you could ever imagine like it just was the deepest darkest voice and I just practically shut my pants right there and I ripped open that door like the closet door to get out and then as soon as I did Samantha comes in and he like gets right now to open the door and as she goes, found you. She sees something across the bed because her parents are bed. Her parents' beds are like right in the middle and all the other side of the bed. She sees a figure like jump up and she just screams at the top of her lungs.

And by then I'm already like pushing Sammy on my way to get down the hallways. I'm freaking out. And so she's screaming like, oh, there's something in there. There's something here. She comes to the home like, what did you just see? And she's like, there's somebody in there with a mask on or something like that. and then all of a sudden, like, down the hallway, so it's like Nikki's parents' room on the left, and then her in Sammy's room on the right, like perfectly across, I see Nikki come out of her own bedroom.

And that's when I just, just, I had no idea what was going on anymore. And that's when I was just like, I was just hiding with you in your parents' room. She's like, no, you weren't. I was like, I was hiding underneath my own bed. And I was just like, I swear I was just hiding with you in your parents' closet. She's like, I was under my bed the whole time. And Sammy's, like, crying at this point. The dad comes in.

He's like, what's wrong? What's wrong? She's like, there's somebody in your room with the mask. There's somebody in the room with the mask. And he's like, what are you talking about? So he goes and searches the room and doesn't find anybody in there. And Sammy said the thing that appeared from across the bed was like had a long white face with a black droopy mouth and black eyes. And she said it reminded her of the mask from the movie screen.

And it just appeared from the other side of the band. It was just staring at her. And that's right when I opened the door to get out of that room because. it's when after it said, I'm not looking in that super deep voice. I was just gone and I was just like, yeah.

So that's kind of what happened and then the parents searched to the room and stuff like that. They couldn't find anybody in the room and they didn't know. So they're just like, you know what, let's not play anymore.

Let's just go watch the movies and stuff to clear their mind. But I was so traumatized at that point. I remember going home, just like, sitting with my dad. I had to slip right in the middle between my stepmom and my dad that night. I was just terrified.

I could not sleep the whole night because I had no idea what, because I physically touched it with my arm, which is the most bizarre point. And then by the time I had opened the closet, it had moved somehow through the closet and appeared on the other side of the door. And what bothered being is that it looked exactly like Nikki at the first point, because I saw it get into the closet, go into the room, go into the closet, and it looked exactly like Nikki. And then when I saw Nikki come out of her own bedroom, I just was

like dumbfounded. I had no idea what. what to do at that point. So yeah, that's kind of what happened. And from there, it's just been, that's my scary story that I tell all my camping trips and stuff like that. And people like, have you had any paranormal stuff or anything like that? That's always my go-to. Yeah. Well, I think that's a great go-to to go-to. So, I mean, yeah, so you have this experience in the closet where you tap Nikki, well, who you thought was Nikki. Do you remember ever feeling like when you tap the person next to you that it didn't feel right or anything, like whether it's an intuition as far as after you touch the person or maybe even like the physical touch of it,

it felt off. It just, well, there was something there. There had to be something there because it was physical because I could have to do with my arm twice. Like, boom, boom. Hey, Nikki. Hey, Nikki. And then she didn't respond.

And then so finding me, I'm like, well, that's weird because I'm freezing cold right now. And it's like 70 degrees on this house and it shouldn't be the. cold so I tapped her one more time and then all sounds like Mickey and also it's just like like in that super deep voice and I was just like that's not Mickey get the hell out you know so yeah I'd have any intuition feelings or think that but I it was something physical because I physically touched it and she was perfectly to my right side I was in the middle and I had like her shoes right to my left of her parents or whatever that was right there so yeah super weird So whatever you saw in the closet, you're drawing the line that whatever you saw was the same thing on the other side of the bed just somehow it got there.

Did you ever think that maybe it was two different entities? No, I never thought. No, I don't know. No, I haven't thought that at all. I mean, it definitely could have been. But I think if it's a shifter, it can probably move through whatever it wants to. It can just appear here, look like something, and then, you know, continue. but I don't know what its intention was to scare us that bad because I was terrifying and I didn't

know if that house ever being haunted in the first place I never heard of anything like that my kids never told us anything like that so I don't know I don't know if they ever had any more encounters I'm not in touch with those people anymore or anything like that but yeah that was just a super super bizarre yeah well I mean when you you know scream or when Sam screams and the parents come in they search the room and everything like that did you ever get a sense that I mean, obviously you thought about this a lot. Have you ever thought maybe they were just playing a prank on you? Or was the environment of the room when they were searching more frantic, like the kids saw somebody in here,

we need to make sure that they're safe? Yeah, no, I definitely thought that maybe might have been playing a trick on us. But nothing ever came out of that room. So there's no other parents that came out of that room. And how do you get someone to look like a little girl, you know, that 10 to 11 years old and to go into a closet? The thing is I never saw Nikki's face that whole time. I just remember going in the closet. I see the back of her kind of go, like, go into the room real quick,

and then go straight into the closet. And so I'm like, oh, Nikki's going to go hide and I'm going to go follow her. And so she just sit in the closet, and as I kind of opened the closet, I can I hide with you? And she says, yeah, come on, come on. But I never see her face or anything like that. She's tucked away in, like, the corner of the closet. So it was just pitch black back there.

And I'm like, all right, I hear her voice. So I assume it's Nikki. So I just hopped down right next to her And then as soon as she said I'm not Nikki I ripped open that closet door And try to get out room And Samantha was coming right in at the same time

And she just says I found you As soon as she says that He just screams because Something had appeared across the bed And something would have There's no way Because I had already open that closet door

So I don't know how they would have gotten On the other side of the bed It had to be in like some type of Non-physical entity That could I have no idea actually at this point because it went physical and then, you know, appeared on the other side of the bed with a different look to it, you know? Right. And, you know, the thing is with what you're telling us and the situation you found yourself in is that you were hiding with some kind of entity and you touch it, you tap it. It's very physical. You at the same time, this is some kind of, you know, interdimensional, whatever entity. So looking back on, I mean, obviously as a kid,

when something like that happens and it's like, I'm not Nikki. Like, you're freaked out, you're fearing for your life. But looking back as an adult, do you think that there was good cause to fear for your life in that moment? Because if it's something physical where you could touch it, then maybe it's physical enough that could hurt you as well. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Oh, I definitely think so. Yeah, I don't know. I just felt bad that they had to stay the night in the house the rest of the night, you know, because that was just completely bizarre. And then when I asked Matt to what she saw and she said, it looked like I had a long, white face with a long, droopy black mouth and just black, giant black whole eyes. I'm like, well, that's just great.

Like, that scared the hell out of me even more, you know, because I was like, like, if you would have heard this thing's voice, like, it was, it just shent shivers through my entire body. And I was already, I got, got a random cold feeling all of a sudden. And then that's when I tapped Nikki. I'm like, that's kind of weird. And then as soon as it said, I just can't even, you know, reiterate how dark this voice was. It was the deepest voice and just vibrated by the whole body. And I'm like, that's definitely not Nikki and just freaking ripped open that closet door and tried to get other students as possible.

So, yeah, so I have no idea what it was at that time. I don't know how to, yeah, I don't know if it's a ghost or if it's just a, like, some type of demon or, I have no idea what it could have been So it didn't try to physically hurt me It did like grab me anything I was sitting right next to it It could have you know Done whatever it wanted to me at that point

You know So Well it didn't try to hurt you because you're too fast This young boy was just too fast Yeah yeah that's what I'm saying You just jet out there light lightning Dude I was man As soon as I heard that voice

It just scared the hell of me And I just ripped open the door But I mean it had It was sitting there with it for at least a minute or so So it had to have, it could have done whatever it wanted to me. But the whole time we never had a conversation or anything like that was in the closet. So the only thing I said to me was, yeah, come on, hurry, sit down, or whatever. So, and that was it.

And then I'm not Nikki part, so. So when you heard that, you know, voice come out of that, whatever it was, have you ever heard something similar, like on a movie or something that you could say, that's what I heard? That's what I said. That's what it sounded like. No, I haven't. No, I can't.

put it to anything that I've seen, you know, and all the movies that I've watched, the horror movies that I've watched, nothing relates to it. I mean, it was the deepest, darkest, it was such a deep voice, and it was just, like, so gargly and terrifying, just absolutely terrifying, like, I can hardly imitate it, but it was just like, um, I'm not Nicky. Just, and that was it, and then I'm like, all right, so. Man, well, I'll tell you what, man, I do not envy you in your situation at all there because it would have scarred me big time. In fact, if I would experience something like that, I don't even know if I'd have the guts to do this show. So, yeah, that was terrifying. Even to his dad, I mean, I think about that all the time. And so I don't know why. And that happened like 15, 16,

17 years ago. So I still don't know what it is. And, you know, my mom, he used to have a boyfriend back in high school. And apparently he had lived in a house where a guy had committed suicide. And they would like see his ghost in the house like the chair would just be rocking back and forth just randomly or they would go to the bedroom and you could see like an outline of a person laying in their bed or something like that so she said that she's had some ghost figures that she's seen in her life and stuff like that but i'm just like but she never saw the physical being she would just see like random stuff move or a figure of a person laying in a bed and stuff like that but so i try to put that to what i've seen in what's happened to me and i just think physical at one point and then it just disappeared if there was two figures like you said and then that's what Samantha saw it but having Samantha see it too just verifies that there was definitely

something in that room going on and then having Nikki come out of her own bedroom that's when I was just like what the hell I just don't it couldn't put it together in my mind like what was just going on because I was like I remember going into the closet because I saw you go into the closet

and I was like I was just hiding with me and she's like no I was hiding underneath my own bed and I was just so bizarre. Yeah, absolutely, man. Before we roll on out of here, in the pre-interview here, you had told me that you're a park ranger, and you've only been a park ranger for two years, but you spent two years before that building trails.

Have you ever experiencing anything weird in the woods? I mean, you know, obviously we talk about Bigfoot on this show. What are your thoughts on Bigfoot? Yeah. Oh, I'm a huge believer. I want to believe. Yeah, I, you know, I've only had, I think we've only had one weird call, and that was when I was on the trails team, my first year,

and that was when someone was hiking out with their two daughters. And I can't remember the trail, but somewhere in Boulder headed up towards, like, Allen's Park, and they were hiking down the trail, and they had some rocks thrown at them. And so the mom had thrown one back, and they heard just this gnarly growl. And that's when the mom just kind of, the two daughters just started crying and stuff like that, and they kept getting rocks thrown at them. And so they just thought it was people messing with them in the forest. And I remember getting that call from the Rangers and they were talking about it

because it had to spread to the trails team and to the forestry team and stuff like that. So I remember hearing about that. But I've personally never had anything happen to me when a bit on trail. And I'm out in some really remote area sometimes. I had that feeling, you know, like when people say they go hiking and it sounds like there's something else of like stepping next to you or whatever. And so you stop to see if you can hear anything else moving. And then you walk.

but it just sounds like you're making more noise than you really are. I get that feeling a little bit and I'll stop and look around, but I've never had to see any big foot things, but that'd be awesome, but scary at the same time, I'm not sure. Well, you've had enough scary experiences to last your lifetime with that first one,

brother, so. Yeah, that first one was terrifying. I mean, I've seen a good amount of UFOs out here since I moved to Colorado and stuff like that, but he's not seen any big foot, but he's got to be out there.

I don't know how. Do you get a lot of people that call them and say they've seen Bigfoot in Colorado? Colorado, you know, I'm not sure. I'm sure I have plenty. I get a lot of people emailing me about Bigfoot, but I'm not sure exactly of all the locations sometimes. But I definitely, I definitely think that you're in an area that they could definitely be. I mean, Oh, yeah, absolutely. You're talking about a lot of mountains and things like that where they could definitely be chilling at. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Because most of them, I hear about it. like Washington, Pennsylvania, you know, Ohio, which is like the big main places. So, but I don't ever hear about Bigfoot encounters out here in Colorado, but there would definitely be some great places for them to go hide and when they have all their natural

resources that they need. Well, you know, that might be something, there might be something to that, you know, Pennsylvania, I'm not sure about Ohio, but those are states where weed is illegal. And so maybe, you know, people are just really relaxed and chilling they're not worried about what they're seeing in the woods. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's so heavily recreated out here, too, that maybe that's probably another reason why, too. So, because we have, there's just so many people out of the trails, you know, mountain biking, fishing, hunting.

I mean, it's just huge out here. Yeah. So you had some UFO experiences as well. Would you care about sharing that with us? Yeah. So my first one, and so I had this whole, like, thing where I moved to Colorado and so I was getting ready for school and stuff like that. And I just wanted to learn more about, you know, I got really into aliens and stuff like. that and I found like David Wilcock and then with Corey Good and got the secret space program

and stuff like that so I just kept diving further and further into all this research and I remember going on my back deck one day and I was just hanging out there we lived in an apartment at the time and I was like on the third floor and had to be in the evening on like five o'clock or so and I remember looking like northwest right over the mountains and I just see this huge flash just like a massive flash just go and it dimmed away and then then I stood there and I kept looking in that direction as it just went away. And then I see this another flash at the same spot. Just a massive flash, like a huge bright star just going off.

And it just goes, and it shines pretty quick and then kind of dims away again. And then all of a sudden it does it two more times where I get another big flash. And then it slowly dims away. And then it had like five seconds between each flash. And on the last flash, it just does this ginormous flash. And it goes, and then it just super quick. just is gone. And that was the first time I saw anything.

I was just like, oh, that's super weird. And I remember bringing it up to a bunch of my friends. They were like, Perry, that's a satellite. And Perry, this is this. This is this. And I was like, I don't think so. I'm like, that was something that I've never seen in my life. I know jets don't do that. And it was in the same spot, but how big these flashes were and how fast it was just

gone like that. I've never seen anything like that in my life. And then I'll know if you remember when we had the blood moon, that was like two years ago. Yeah. And I remember being out my back deck that night, and I got like this telescope and everything. And I saw probably three or four that night. And I saw two big black triangle-shaped ones. And they were both flying south for some reason.

And they were cruising. So I saw those ones. And they had like just a little dim lights on them. Like if you wouldn't, if you would have just looked up the sky and not really been paying attention, you would have just seen right through them. I mean, not even realized that what they were. So I saw two of those that night. And then about a year, about a year. about a year ago right outside my house.

I was over at the park with my dog and stuff like that. And I remember just like looking up because I just love looking up, try to find these stuff. There's massive one. It had to be like two football field long. It covered my entire park, which is like two blocks long. It was just massive. And it had like, it was in a giant V.

You know like how birds fly like in a triangle like geese and stuff like that? They have that V formation. It was just like that. It had one, two, three, four, five, five. five super, super dim lights on the bottom of it. So one super dim light at the very point, and then two across the left side, and then two across the right side in this giant B. And it was just slowly kind of cruising over this whole area that had like some type of like

holographic thing to it. Like you could just see right through it look like you're just like looking at stars, but you could see these big, you could kind of see like a reflection of the holograph, like holographic part of it. and then just the super dim lights. Like honestly, if you would have just walked under and not really paid much attention to it, you would have just thought it was the night sky. But it was just massive, massive whatever it was to chip,

just cruising over the park and headed like towards down to Denver area. Wow. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Pretty cool. That's insane. I mean, first of all, the first one that you were mentioning, and not the light, but the actual craft that you had saw,

the triangle-shaped one. Yeah, yeah. Would you say it was a triangle, or was it a pyramid shape? I would think more of a pyramid shape. Yeah, it was like a... Yeah. From my point, it kind of looked like a triangle, but I think it had to have another side to it.

Okay. Just from the point where I was standing from it, but it could have definitely been a pyramid. But then after I saw that physically, I remember listening to Corey Good, talk about, I don't know if you know who Corey Good is. Sure. And he said that the secret space program has had those, and a lot of times humans are the ones driving those, and those are just something that the public doesn't have any idea of what's really good.

That we have re-engineered and reverse technology that craft. And so we are practically just, that's us up there, and it's not really any extraterrestrial or alien flying those planes or spacecraft that's most likely humans and stuff like that. But that first one I saw, I don't know if that was human technology or what, because that was just the mass of like a giant star just going off and then going away. And then going off going away. So yeah, I find all those accounts interesting, but when you said about the triangle one, it popped out in my mind because I didn't know, I don't know if you heard about the pyramid shaped UFO over the Pentagon in D.C. last December, December 2018, but it's something that I've been looking into personally because there was at least three different people that filmed the same event on the same night. And then I just came across another video of this pyramid shaped UFO over the, uh, the capital in Moscow or in Russia, Moscow. And both times, these things were hovering over very close to building stuff. It wasn't like high, high up in the sky. It was pretty close. And it was huge. And it was rotating on its axis. It wasn't just sitting still. It was rotating. And you could see the three-dimensional pyramid shape that was rotating. And I just find it very interesting.

Obviously, it's obviously interesting seeing something like that. But the fact that it's been seen all over the place and on top of it. you have the idea of the pyramids in Egypt and all over the world where we don't know how they were built, right? But now we see a pyramid-shaped thing flying and hovering in the sky. And it reminds me of the movie from back in, I don't know, the early 2000, late 90s Stargate, because it's all about the pyramid and it comes down. And it's just like this whole idea of a pyramid floating in the sky, I just find so fascinating.

That's why I asked you about it. Yeah, when I saw the two of them, they were, cruising, man. Like, they were going so fast. Like, they went from north to south, just in the blink of an eye. And I just remember seeing them, just, because I watched him the whole time and just try to keep my eye on it and both of them. And so the first one passed, and then here comes the second one, and they're kind of just cruising along. But it had, like, just like I said, like, just that triangle kind of look to it, just cruising along. So what about the V-shaped one? Was it clearly defined as a V-shaped? Because I personally saw a V-shaped UFO last year myself.

three times in about a month period while I was driving my truck. And so I've seen the V-shaped UFO. And when I saw it, the very first time I saw it, it was actually more of the shape of a checkmark. Like one side was shorter than the other. At least that's what I saw. Oh, interesting. Yeah, this one looked like to be like almost like perfectly like in a perfect B. It looked just like a giant V and it had some type of cover across it.

but it was just so, so massive. It had covered my entire park, which, yeah, like I said, two blocks easily. It had to be like two football fields long because, but it was going so slow that it was kind of weird. And yeah, I just remember just straight just looking at it. And all I could see was those really those five dim lights on the bottom of it. And that's when I was just like, well, that's some type of craft that easily just cruising through here and just has, you know, people will never know that there's something directly above them because it just looks like the night sky, but it's obviously being covered by whatever type of technology they have on it, and it was just massive, but it just looked

like a huge ship just kind of just cruising along the night sky, and I couldn't tell how high it was up in the sky. It didn't look like it was that high, you know, maybe a few thousand feet above us, you know, if that. So. Yeah, so I mean, in other words, it was kind of like the shape of a boomerang, right? Maybe not exactly. Exactly. You got it. That's exactly. It's just like a boomerang. Okay. So how'd that whole experience end? I mean, you just watch just sail off into the night sky or what?

Yeah, I just like, well, I was just hanging out. Yeah, just right out of the park. And so I just watched it kind of just cruise along. I mean, I probably watched it for a good minute as it crossed me and finally went completely south to where I just couldn't see it anymore. And it was just kind of gone. It didn't look like it was taken off on anything. It was just, you know, low cruise control, you know?

That's what I'm saying. And it was just hanging out. So what about the sense? was it completely silent? Completely silent. I definitely try to listen to the sound and stuff like that. Dead silent. Just nothing but, you know, just that evening.

And it was, you know, more towards wintertime, so there's not like birds or anything that late. So, yeah, it was just, just cruising, no sound. The lights are what gave it off. Those five dim lights, that's really what I noticed because you could easily kind of point, if you were to focus, you could easily pick out the five boomerang-looking lights that were underneath it in that perfect shape.

just super dim and just cruising. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, Perry, man. I really do appreciate coming on and sharing this experience and stuff. It's definitely one that's very frightening, very frightening, and I do appreciate you sharing it. Yeah, well, thank you so many things for giving this outlet to not only me, but to everyone else. And it's an awesome show. Can't thank you enough for having it.

So thank you. Well, Perry, thank you very much for being on the show. I really do appreciate it. It was a very interesting story that shared with us. Next up, we have Dan. and before we get to Dan, we're going to play a special promo for Hammer Lane Legends. This is an interview that I did a while back for this show that we've been preparing for. So check it out right now. Hammer Lane Legends promo. Let's go. Obviously, I'm sure you've had lots of different experiences out on

the road over the years and stuff. You've probably seen crazy things. And this show is about people coming on and sharing some of their stories and experiences from the road. And you and I connected on Facebook. And it turns out, you know, a while ago, I think you said it was back in the 70s or something, you actually saw a guy commit suicide while you were driving. What happened there? Well, I was working for a company called Concord Leasing, and anybody from Canada will recognize a name. Then they went to Concord Transport, and they're gone now. And I was driving a Ford Louisville daycap, and I would load glass for cars out of Scarborough, Ontario, run it down to Finley, Ohio, five days a week, which in a daycap gave me about 3,200 miles a week,

which is pretty big week for, you know, I think I was about 20 years old somewhere around there. So occasionally, they would give me a back call out of the Detroit area. So one day up near the, I'm not sure of the name of the, where they used to play baseball up there on the east side of Detroit there, around 75 and 94, there was a baseball dime there. And I went into an old warehouse. there and I loaded a load of a

cowhithe and I was taking that back to Toronto and it took me most of the day to load a load of cow hikes like July August you know like a nice summer day, nice clear sunny day so I finally get my load on I get my customs papers done and I started heading towards the bridge and

a little bit, I was lucky there was a little bit of a lineup at the cash box but not much a matter of a couple minutes so I'd start climbing the hill for the Ambassador Bridge which is a pretty big pull right like I was grossed out I was overloaded for the States. I was probably up around 90,000 pounds.

And I'm pulling up the bridge. And you know in that scene for the 70s show where Eric's sitting on the hood of his car, you know, that vista cruiser and that big station wagon with the second wind shield on the top? One of those goes roaring past me as I'm climbing the hill. I'm up near the top. And, I mean, the reason I noticed when he had us, when he went past me, he had his foot right to the floor with those two barrel carburetors and the exhaust. and it would just hiss as it went past you.

I thought, boy, look at him go. So I picked up another gear and I'm climbing the bridge, which is a pretty good pull. And he pulled over in front of me, just hammered the brakes on and pulled over in front of me. And I went, son of a gun, what's he doing? He put it in park, threw open the driver's door, ran out the side of the car,

crossed the front of it, and jumped right off the side of the bridge in front of me, maybe 50 feet in front of me. And the one thing I remember was kind of like the Wiley, coyote cartoons, you know, where he falls off a cliff and he kind of pauses there for a second, then he drops out of sight. Yeah. It was exactly like that.

Just exactly like that. He just kind of hung there in the air for like a split second. You know, his arms and legs all spread out in this look on his face that I'll never really forget. And just dropped out of sight. And the car door was open. The car was running. What am I going to do? You know, like, what do you do?

It's not like I can catch him at this point. So I got in the left lane and I passed them and I, I went up over top of the bridge and I came down to customs and there was a woman, Canadian customs officer there. She goes, citizenship. And I said, somebody just jumped off the bridge. She goes, what do you mean? I said, a guy right in front of me just jumped off the bridge.

Goes, we'll take care of it. Citizenship. And away I went. So I don't know what it. I would imagine, of course, that they went right up there and, you know, look for the body and recovered the car. But that's probably one of the stranger things I've seen. All right.

Today we got Dan on the show. Dan, how are you doing, man? I'm doing very well. How are you doing? Doing well, Dan, the man. All right. So you have some Bigfoot experience that you, I guess you're a truck driver like I am,

and you saw one of these things one morning. So why don't you just kind of walk us into what you were doing and have this all unfolded for you? Okay. Yeah, so like you said, I was a truck driver and four days a week, usually in the middle of the night. It started. area tends to be kind of weird. Like I've always had just weird feelings going up there, you know,

if you have to stop and like put chains on into winter or something. But didn't really think much about it. Like I'd be driving and you'd hear howls or growls, you know, it's kind of stuff of that nature. And I just always put it off to random animals in the woods. And several times it sounded like stuff was getting thrown at my truck, which I was, I couldn't find an explanation for. And I just, I couldn't an explanation for, but I didn't jump straight to Bigfoot and within about a month period and just seemed to get more and more the ways ahead on them to see deer or bear longed away, so that's kind of what I just figured it was going to be, you know, it was flowing down just in case it ran out in the road. But yeah, I don't even know how to say it, man.

It just caught me so off guard because it wasn't a man. It was just a tall figure, probably seven to eight feet, I would say. And very hairy. You rat it up. Just hanging off the body and what really stuck to me or stuck with me was the arm length. It just was not a natural arm length. They hung down almost to the knees. This whole thing lost it maybe about 10 seconds.

I was so, I guess, by what I was seeing that I didn't. even continue to slow down. Like, I was just staring and driving. And as I got closer, probably within about 25 to 30 feet, it did one jump, and it was gone. I couldn't see it anymore. Off the side of the road is an old lava rocks that any place anybody would want to walk through, but that's where it jumped to, and it was just gone. I think I probably drove on for another five minutes before I really started processing what it was.

I just kept thinking the whole time to myself, you know, what the heck was that that I really just see that. It took me some time. Yeah, I can imagine. So I'm assuming you weren't a Bigfoot enthusiast or anything like that going into this. It really was just out of the blue for you. Yeah. You know, it's kind of part of the culture in this area.

You see it a lot in business names and people have stickers and stuff. but I always just took it as a story, not in an actual real life. So that was another challenge of this whole thing. Was it kind of, in some sense, it changed my whole perception of the world, you know, because you start wondering what else is real. Yeah, you know, and that's the thing. I mean, I know this kind of interaction with these creatures, especially if you weren't expecting it can kind of throw your whole world upside down.

did it kind of push you into looking into this topic more or do you just say I saw a big foot and I don't want to see it again or how do you how is your life affected by this at all a few weeks I did struggle with it a little and I didn't tell anybody um just because I was worried that I'm losing my mind and going crazy I spend a lot of time Googling and looking just trying to find stuff in in this area you know to help explain what I saw. My first initial thought was I just misidentified, umpinalize what I saw. So when I came, I headed back through that way later that day and I was just trying to, in my mind, I was trying to find like a low-hanging tree branch or something,

you know, that would just like, where I could say, hey, maybe, maybe I just was, you know, I misidentified this, but I didn't. There was nothing there. It was absolutely clear. This was at 4 a.m. in the morning. It's in, It's literally in the middle and no good reason for anybody to really be out there outside of the vehicle. So I just started, you know, like I said, I looked up on the BFRO. They have their website and I was trying to find sightings. And a whole lot, the ones that I did find were all several years old, like 2006, 2008. And this just happened for me last year in 2018.

So it was, you know, there's some time in between. Between that, so I just, what's the show? So I got into that Facebook group and what I had seen and I was wondering if anybody else had ever, or seen anything like it because the encounters that I was able to find here in Oregon always described the typical. Like mine was more of an orangutan, just proportions weren't quite right, but that's what it came closest to. Eventually, somebody pointed me in direction of Cliff. Yeah. At the time, I wasn't familiar with his TV show or anything. He actually told me that there's a lot of sightings in that specific area. They actually even did an episode just a little ways down the road from where it seems like it's fairly popular. It just doesn't get reported as much, or I didn't have time to write resources to read up on it. But it definitely sparked interest in me. I get torn between, wanting to pack up my tent, you know, my hiking gear and go out there and find one just the kind

of proved to myself. I took it as, you know, looking back at the crows and the howls and stuff like that before I actually thought I'm under the impression that it didn't want me around there. Like that's kind of the feeling I got was this was the last warning type of deal. I'm going to stand here and intimidate you. And so, you know, I'm not, that's the other side of it, where I'm not really sure if it's a smart idea to go wandering out there by myself. Yeah, I mean, when I was, I, I don't go looking for these things a whole lot anymore. It's just time scheduling kind of thing. But when I was, I was doing it, I typically would go about, or not go by myself because,

I mean, Bigfoot aside, if something were to happen to me, because I was always going off trail kind of thing. And, you know, if something were to happen to me, I need to know that there's somebody there to help me kind of thing. but when you saw this thing and you said that it was in the middle of the road and then with like a jump it was gone did it like jump off a two feet or just kind of like leap across the road like just like a big I don't know galloping leap leap uh I would say it was more like a galloping leap yeah it did it out of a stand still but yeah it was gone you know I don't think I've ever seen anything I could compare that movement to especially for

that size, you know, like I'm a fairly big guy. I'm 6'3, and like, I know I definitely couldn't pull off a jump like that, let alone, you know, something that's a good two feet taller than me and out of a stand, you know, it had to be a good eight-foot leap or so, I would say. So you said it was kind of like facing you and, like, I guess the upper body was facing you. Did you get any detailed the face at all? It wasn't quite facing me. It was more of a profile view. Its legs were sideways to me,

but it had its upper body turned my way, which that in itself looks like a pretty unnatural way for a person. But I didn't get too many face details, none that I remember. I can tell you the shape

of it didn't have much of a neck. just had a rounded shape on top of the shoulders. It didn't seem especially wide. A lot of descriptions I hear always talk about wide shoulders, and I didn't really notice that. It actually looked relatively skinny, I'd say, for the size. But the arm length is what really stuck with me. I don't know why that burned in my mind that much,

but just that arm lengths seemed so unnatural to me that I kind of, I think that's what I focused on. the most for whatever reason. Yeah, you know, it's one of those things where when you're seeing something that isn't supposed to be there, it's not supposed to exist, I think our minds start trying to rationalize and identify what we're looking at. And I mean, when you see the long arms, I hear that a lot. I mean, people say the arms are so long, it just stuck out to me. And I think it's because it's unnaturally long. There was a really well-known basketball player, you know, back in the mid-2000s, Ben Wallace. And he played for the Detroit Pistons. He was a center and he was

only six-nine and that's really short for a center. But what made him so effective was that his arms were incredibly long. And he was very good at blocking and rebounding. And it was because of the arms. Like when you would see him walking, his hands would be down in his knees. And it's just not natural. And so you notice those things when you look at that guy. And I imagine it's the same thing when it comes to seeing something like that with Bigfoot. It's just, it sticks out because it's not natural. Yeah, and that's, I would completely agree with that. I think that's why it did stick out that way, because that's what just really put it over for me of that not being a person, you know, and it just was not a natural. The way it stood, the way it jumped off of that road, none of that

looked like anything that I've ever seen in an actual human being. Yeah, so and then later on, so after starting to look into this a little more, like I said, I couldn't find too much, but about 25 miles up the road, I would often meet with another driver from my company and we would swap over some product, you know, and usually have a quick chat and just hang out for 15 or something. And then we'd each go our ways again. And we'd meet on this travel parking lot just off the highway. And it's still pretty much in the middle of nowhere. You know, it's smacked it in the woods. And I never told him what I had seen before. But he was always nervous on that parking lot.

It creeped him out. And, you know, me after having seen this, I kind of try to be a little more aware of what's going on around. me now too. You know, I never know, I guess. But we started, so we'd meet there about three times a week, and

we just started noticing stuff happening there too. Usually just noises around us. And then one morning, very obviously something was knocking in the woods just a little ways away from us.

And the way we were positioned where our two trucks were parked next to each other, and we were standing in between them talking, and we'd hear these knockings going on, and, you know, maybe 100 feet away from us. And I'd walk around the truck, and I'd take a peek around, you know, trying to see if I can see what's going on, if there's somebody there or what, and I never saw anybody. And then we'd go back around the truck, you know, continue talking, and I would start up again. and at the time I didn't notice it right away, but I was, my curiosity got the better of me and I started walking straight to the woods because I was just, you know, intrigued.

I'm kind of like, you know, what the heck is this? And I got to about within 50 feet of it. And that's when I started realizing like, hey, this is actually trying to lure us away from our vehicles because it would only, we'd only hear the knocking when we come out in between our, vehicles. I decided it's probably best to, you know, not go wandering in there and I walked back and this continued for a good 10 minutes or so and we finally said, okay, it's probably time to leave. And once I started looking into that, there's a native reservation about 30 miles away from that spot. And it's the Plateau Indians, as is what they're called here. and they talk about stick Indians.

And in their version of it, it's a bad spirit in the woods that essentially lures people away. And then oftentimes they're never seen again. Try to kind of get some information on this, just but they're not, they're not too friendly to outsiders. Good luck. Yeah, they don't respond. I heard later on stories, too, that sometimes people that go on to the rhythm. reservation disappear. And I mean, this is all hearsay.

I don't know how much is factual, you know, but it does make you wonder if it could be related. I've heard of them. And they seem to basically, I guess, the general description of these things is they're they're benevolent and extremely dangerous. You hit it right on the head with the forest spirits because, you know, it's one of those things where I think it's about culture. and so the culture of the tribes, they, you know, they're very spiritual.

And I think that's how, you know, I say it on the show a lot. You know, people experience things, but it depends on what their worldview is as to how they describe that experience. And you have two different people experiences some of the exact thing, but they describe it differently because their worldviews are different. And I think you have a lot of that when it comes to the Native American stories and lore. Do you still work for that company? A few weeks back, it was unrelated, but I got a new job now.

So I'm not heading out there as much anymore. Yeah, I bet you're glad about that. What the guy say when he was there with you and you guys were hearing the noises and stuff, was he like scared? Did he have any ideas or suggestions as what could be? No, he didn't. He was just, he was very creeped out about it. Like he got, you know, he was very uncomfortable, wanted to get out of it.

me something like I say curiosity gets the better of me sometimes I always joke if I was in a horror movie I'd probably be the first to die because I'd be the idiot that goes looking in the basement he was making a noise you know

but yeah he just wasn't comfortable and later on when we'd meet in that lot he just he always complained about it you know he always said we should find a better spot but it was just the company dictated that that's where we should do our product swaps and stuff because it wouldn't be disturbing anybody early in the

morning, you know, you're out there by yourself. One thing that happened probably within two weeks of those knocking in the wood and that whole episode, I got there early and I was waiting for the other guy to arrive and I saw a sheriff car pull up in an SUV just on the other side of the road. and the deputy got out, had his flashlight on, and was looking around, shining on the ground, going off the path a little and looking around. It seemed like he was looking for tracks to me. And I might be biased just because of that experience. He could have, to me, it's pretty weird. He was out there by himself. He didn't have his lights on, you know, his sirens or anything.

He just stopped, got out and had to look around for about 10 minutes, and then got to back in his SUV and drove off and kind of made me wonder, you know, what that was all about if maybe he knew something or has heard stuff. Yeah. I would have liked to gone up to him and asked him, but just didn't seem like a smart idea to approach him in the middle of the dark, you know, in the middle of nowhere. Well, I'm a nosy kind of guy, I guess, because whenever I see a cop, like, I always, like, say hi and stuff, and I've been known to walk up the cops and just strike up.

conversation like they're not even on duty working. It's like they have time to talk to me. But I definitely, knowing me, I would have gone over like, hey, what are you looking for? That's just how I am. I really wanted to, like I said. It just didn't seem like the best time to do it. Yeah, especially that early in the morning. I'm sure he knew you were there. I thought you were to say he pulled in to say, you know, what are you doing here kind of thing? Because you're out in the middle of nowhere. I was thinking, when you were describing it, I was like, man, That sounds like a good spot where, you know, drug exchanges could happen.

Yeah. And, you know, I actually saw, I don't know if it was the same deputy, but the sheriff's cars would pass by there on a fairly regular basis. I always assumed, you know, maybe one of them just lives down the road there or something, because there are some spread out houses and, you know, five miles down the road or so. So I've seen them drive by several times. It was just the first time that I actually witnessed them getting out. and he was looking for something clearly. You know, I can't speak to what it was. But, I mean, obviously, you know, just get out and walk around just to, you know, get your exercise in, I'd say, in that area.

Yeah. Now, is this something that you talk about with friends and family and tell them what you saw, or do you kind of keep it quiet to yourself? I told my wife before anybody else, and I did share it with a former coworker. he himself is part of a native tribe he's native and so he's got some insight from his tribe you know but but he's from south dakota so but it was interesting because he's had an encounter or at least something happened in when he was a kid he'd tell a story about riding his dirt bike into woods with his friend and when they were stopped something was throwing rocks at them and being being the young kids they were, they thought it was a game and somebody was messing with them, you know, so they would pick them up and throw them back. And then he says that

he started hearing movement, and the rocks kept coming closer and closer, and the movement came closer and closer, they eventually just got spooked and took off out of there. But he's a little more open-minded, you know. So I would talk to him a little, and then

outside of that, I don't really share too much. I do, you know, I'm in some Facebook groups I'll talk about it. Again, I'm in your fan page and lessens. Sometimes we'll share our experiences or thought. You know, not to be mistaken, I'm nothing of a researcher or anything like that. For me, it's mostly I just want to find out some stuff

and learn some stuff for myself, you know, because it is very interesting after coming to terms that I have seen something. I do want to know as much as I can about it. Yeah, and that's natural. I think. I mean, when you have something that shifts your paradigm and shifts how you view the world and makes you start questioning what else is out there, what is going on, you do look into things and you start because you're looking for answers and stuff. I think that's a natural thing. But I'll tell you what, Dan, I appreciate you coming on and sharing that story because it's very

interesting. It makes me wonder, you know, it's one of those things where why did it stand the road and wait for you to get to it? Because it's the middle of the night, not a lot of traffic. could have waited to cross the road until you passed or passed sooner, but the fact that it stood in the middle of the road, saw you come in and was, you know, turning its upper body towards you, it makes you wonder why it does that, because you hear people talk about how, you know, these things are elusive and they don't want to be seen. They're very smart. Well, if they don't want to be seen, it seems like that's a very dumb thing to do. So it just makes you wonder why. Yeah, that's exactly where I was too. And, you know, this is all uphill.

So I drove a refrigerated truck, you know. So you got the truck working hard to get up the hill making a lot of noise. You got the reefer unit on top of it making a lot of noise. And there was no traffic at all. Like I said, it's uphill. You know, it's a wooded area. So that thing would have literally heard me coming from a mile away. And it wasn't crossing the road when I saw it, you know, it was standing there.

And I felt like there was an intent behind it. That's why I kind of took it as, I think it was an intimidation thing, is my impression of the whole thing. I think it just got annoyed with me coming through there so often, you know, and making noise. Possibly, I don't know, maybe I was disturbing a hunt or just asleep or whatever. I don't know. Maybe it was part of that local Bigfoot gang and it was getting initiation. Yeah, maybe. It's like, maybe playing a game of chicken.

Yeah. You want to be part of the gang? You got to show yourself to the humans. Go stand the right. All right. who knows. Yeah, man. Maybe they're just as silly as we get. Oh, you never know. I mean, you hear all these different stories and stuff, and, you know, it's just like, it does seem like they're elusive.

It does seem like they don't want to be seen. But then there's stories like yours that just, it goes against everything that you think about these things and it just makes you wonder why. And that's a question that you'll probably have forever because we're never going to really know the answers, I don't think. Yeah. No, I agree. That's kind of a little bit of different.

frustrating part too, you know, it's for me, because I don't know, I'm the type of person I want to know why things happen. You know, several years ago, my wife and brother-in-law were sitting outside and we saw some random lights in the sky, too. And that just, that followed me forever, too. And, you know, I'm constantly trying to figure out what it was and doing Google searches gets frustrating because it doesn't seem like anybody else saw it. And you're like, come on, man, you know, like how is, how am I the only person or how, how, are we 3D only people that saw us? And what was it? You know, why is nobody else talking about this kind of?

Yeah, it's those things, man. They shift your paradigm. They shift the way you view things. And, you know, the UFO phenomena is something that is growing, actually. There's more UFO sightings reported every year. It seems like this is something that's becoming more of an issue than less. To the point that our government's military is now looking into UFOs, and at least to the point where they're allowing their soldiers to come forward and share what they saw,

because I think the government's trying to figure out what's going on as well, which is kind of a scary thing because we often assume that they already know and they're just not telling us, but the fact that they're telling the soldiers to come forward and share what they saw, it kind of leads you to believe that they're not quite sure what's going on, and they're trying to figure it out themselves. And that's kind of concerning. Yeah, I agree. You know, and if you look at each time and money they spent back in the, the, the,

50s and 60s to look into stuff like that. You know, like you said, it kind of makes you wonder a little and worried that they're not all knowing either and all powerful as we tend to just put our trust in them. Yeah, I think that we have a situation where, you know, not one person in the government controls everything. I mean, people glorify the position of the president, oh, this person is going to be able to change the world or this person is going to tear everything apart. the government's very compartmentalized, and it takes a lot for things to get done, but also at the same time, it takes a lot for information to spread and for everybody to know about it.

And so, though I think that there are people within the shadows, at least, of the government that are more in clue and check of what's going on. I think the generalization of the government or the general military, I don't think they quite are aware of what's actually going on out there. And so it's one of those things where... Yeah, it's just compartmentalized, I think. But Dan, I appreciate you coming on and share, man. I really do appreciate the talk. Yeah, and it wasn't my pleasure. I've been listening to your show for a while.

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