The Confessionals - RELOADED | 220: We're Here For Your Soul

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

In episode 220 we talk with Wendy who has had some of the most dramatic experiences we've ever had shared on The Confessionals! She has been tormented by pure evil throughout her life and she shares a...ll with us today including a time that entities came into her room, told her that they were taking her soul as they shoved their arms into her chest. If the paranormal isn't enough, Wendy shares a story of when she first got married and her new husband went off the deep end and almost killed her and those around them.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Merkel Media I guess it's time to go back in time Are you telling me you built a time machine Kind of a Dolion Time is but a stubborn illusion I have a lot of memories
Starting point is 00:00:19 Of the past People are time traveling within themselves Time travel Is possible This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed but no one was supposed to talk about it. Reach up underneath the door,
Starting point is 00:00:44 curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. The giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand,
Starting point is 00:01:09 and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. somebody else shoot them in the face shoot him in the face they basically decapitated something pulling at my leg and I look over and there are two small and they're literally I'm getting pulled off the best bush and because I know I'm seeing a monster okay I reload it welcome to the show everybody you're listening to the confessionals I am your host Tony Merkel thank you for being here if you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show go ahead and shoot me an email or go to the website the confessionals Podcast.com, hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either way it works for me, just get a hold of me. And if you want more shows every week, every Thursday we release a bonus show just like you hear on Tuesdays, only it's on Thursdays for the members to the website. So if you're interested in having extra shows every week, go to the Confessionalspodcast.com, hit the join button and
Starting point is 00:02:50 become a member today. Now, this week, we have a great show playing for you. We have Wendy coming on the show, and Wendy's going to share her paranormal experiences that she's had throughout her life, but her life is a little different in the sense that she's seen a lot of different things when it comes to the paranormal. She saw these things come in her room. What they did to her, you're just going to have to listen because it's something that I can't even describe. But then she's also going to be talking about how she was married to a man and shortly after they got married, he threatened her life in a very, very serious way. And quite frankly, I'm very surprised that she's still alive today. And she comes on the show to share these experiences with us today. But before we get into that,
Starting point is 00:03:29 I want to let you guys know on Friday at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. We are going live for the members on the members website. I've been doing a lot of extra live content for the members. And this Friday, I'm very excited to announce that we have a special guest coming on the show, Dr. Paul Cottrell. And Dr. Paul Cottrell is going to be coming on the show to talk about the coronavirus and his findings with this disease. He is actually. actually based out of New York City, which is the hot zone for the coronavirus in the United States. And he's been looking at this for just about as long as I have. And he's found some very incredible things that leads him to believe that this is more than likely a bio weapon.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He's going to come on to professionals to talk all about it. But before we get into Wendy, I want you to hear a little sample of what Dr. Paul Cottrell talks about and what he'll be talking about this Friday night at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the confessionals members website. Let's go. This is what I'm saying. I'm saying that there was a bioengineered virus, okay? And there was another virus that bifurcated in the lab that was a black operation. And it happened in 2015.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So there was two line, bioengineered lines, one for weapons and one for science. And I think that the Wuhan virus is the bioweapon. And the RATG-13 was the scientific line. And the Chinese are trying to cover it up. Because what happened in the NIH database for the sequencing is the RATG-13 did not exist in the NIH database. When I ran it on January 25th, the 27th, and early February. When I was looking at the genomes to understand the HIV homology and how this thing was being built. Then on February 24th, the genome pops up for RATG-13.
Starting point is 00:05:50 The 13 means that it was discovered in 2013. Where was it in the genome database the last seven years? That's why I say that it was a hidden program. And then, to make even things worse, they've updated the database where it's now saying March 24th. So they did something to the record. What they changed, I don't know. It may not be anything with the actual genome sequence.
Starting point is 00:06:23 It could have been annotations of the record, you know, dealing with professors that were involved or different proteins that were added that were sequenced because they also sequenced proteins, not just the genome, but there's something fishy because that genome just popped up this year. There's a cover-up. And Pienzau, in these new publications that are popping up in 2020, saying that this is zoonotic,
Starting point is 00:06:54 his name keeps him popping up on these articles. But he's the one that's on the article that was published in 2008. That's on my website that proves that he's the one that put the HIV in the coronavirus. All right. Today we got a great guest coming on. We have Wendy. Wendy, how you doing? I'm doing pretty good.
Starting point is 00:07:35 How about yourself, Tony? I'm doing fine. So we were just sitting here talking a little bit. And it turns out you found the show through Sam's show, Tinfoil Hat podcast. A shout out to that podcast for helping you find us. That's really cool. So you have a life of experiences. And some of them are kind of like a little bit all over, but they might have linkage.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And we want to just start off from when you were a kid. Now, I know when you were a kid, you had saw a shadow figure. I think it was downstairs. and then it had pushed you or something had pushed you down the steps. So why don't you start us off there? Because I think that's where it kind of all started for you. And just share with us some of these experiences that you've had throughout your life. Okay. So that experience happened, I think, when I was about four or five, my mom and grandma were on a business trip to Kansas City. And we were staying with my grandpa in their old farmhouse. And I was sleeping upstairs with my
Starting point is 00:08:36 two sisters. And I remember going to bed that night, and I was excited because I knew my mom was going to be home later that afternoon. And I remember waking up, and it was pitch black in the house. And I hear my grandma's voice calling my name. And so I get up and I try to wake my sisters up because, you know, hey, if grandma's home, then mom's home. And I remember trying really hard to wake them up, and for some reason they wouldn't wake up. So I'm like, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I'm going to go see Mom by myself then. And so I go out of the bedroom, and I go to the landing of the stairs. And the way the staircase was you go down the flight, there's a landing, and it turns 90 degrees, and you go, you know, down to the ground floor. And I remember standing at the top of the stairs and I could see at the bottom of the stairs, there's this dark shadow.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And I hear it, you know, calling my name. And it sounds just like my grandma. And, you know, in my little child's mind, things aren't adding up, but I don't know exactly what's going on. So I decide, okay, well, I'm just going to go down the stairs and, you know, see my mom and grandma. as I go to take a step down the stairs I see this shadow out of the left off my left hand side
Starting point is 00:10:12 of the core of my eye and the next thing I know I feel this hand on my back and I remember going down the stairs and the next thing I know I don't know how long it was but I wake up on the landing of the stairs and it's still dark
Starting point is 00:10:30 and you know I don't hear anything and I get up and I look around and, you know, trying to find my mom and trying to find my grandma. I don't know what's going on. So I'm like, okay, well, I guess I'll just go back upstairs and go to bed. So I go back up the stairs and my sisters are still asleep. And I go to lay down and I remember feeling this hand on my back. And I turn around on a look and nobody's there, but I just get this really bad feeling. And, you know, as a kid, you don't really understand, you know, the whole spiritual aspect of stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So I just kind of brushed it off and I went back to sleep. And, you know, the next day, my mom comes home and that was really the first experience that I ever had. And so growing up for the next couple of years, I was terrified to go to sleep at night. I didn't know what it was. I couldn't really explain it to my mom. But I just, I guess had the sense of impending doom every night when I would go to sleep. I guess I was afraid to wake up at night. So this goes on for most of my life until I'm about 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And then when we were 10 years old, when I was 10 years old, we moved down to the town we live in now, which was about 70 miles away from where I grew up. And this property was out in the middle of nowhere, out in the woods. Our closest neighbor was about a mile. away. Wow. And yeah. And it's just straight up deep woods, big huge trees. Yeah. And my dad, he was a hound, a hound hunter. He had very well-trained dogs that we go hunt bear and cougar with. And so that's one reason why he wanted to be out, you know, in the works. And I was really excited because I was hoping that, you know, things would change for me. Not that I'd had any experiences really since that first one.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But just the overall feeling, I was just kind of hoping for a fresh start, I guess. And things were okay for a little bit. And I remember one night just waking up, not really knowing why. and I'm laying there and I could just feel like something's wrong. I think I was about maybe 13 at the time. And I'm just laying there trying to figure out what is going on. And like in my mind's eye, I guess you could say, I see this dark figure in the corner of my room. and, you know, I knew about angels and demons and, you know, stuff like that, but I guess I'd never connected, you know, what I experienced when I was younger to any of that at that time.
Starting point is 00:14:04 So, sorry, this is really hard for me. That's right. Take your time. I go and I open my eyes, really, really hoping that they're really hoping that. this thing is not there. And it was. And, you know, I was terrified. And so, you know, I started screaming, which at the time I was sleeping with my, my younger sister, we shared a room.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And, of course, you know, me waking up in the night screaming, scared her. So she started screaming. And my parents came in and, you know, what's wrong? And I told them, you know, oh, I saw, you know, I saw a shadow figure. my dad kind of brushed it off and my mom she said you know it's okay we'll just pray and everything it'll be fine um well i saw that thing every night in my room for a very long time um each night it would be in a different place i would wake up and i would just be paralyzed with fear um and i knew it was there, you know, that just cold fear in the pit of your stomach. And every night it would be in a
Starting point is 00:15:26 different spot. Like one night it would be, you know, right in front of the closet or I could feel it was in the closet or in front of the window. I remember one night it really scared me. It was on the ceiling up in the corner of my room. And it was up there facing towards. to me. And, but its hands and its feet were turned backwards, you know, kind of like Spider-Man on the ceiling. Wow. Yeah, it was, it was real trippy.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And it never said anything, but I could just, in my mind, hear it taunting me, just laughing, not even really saying anything, but just that sense of enjoyment. out of my fear. And that went on for a really, really long time every single night. And then it's really kind of tapered off. And it wouldn't be every night. It'd be every other night. Can I ask you question?
Starting point is 00:16:37 And then it turned into a couple times a week. Yeah, go ahead. Let me ask you a question real quick, because I know I'm going to forget to ask this later. A little bit of details about this thing that you saw in the ceiling corner of the room. obviously the hands and feet being turned backwards is it's a frightening image to even think about, let alone experience. Did this thing looking at you, did it smile at you at all? Like, you said that it seemed like it had taken joy in your fear. Did it smile at you? Because we hear
Starting point is 00:17:10 on this show a lot, and I know you're a relatively new listeners. We may not have heard such shows, but we hear these entities appearing. And quite a few times now, I remember hearing people say it was like in the ceiling corner of the room and it looked at them and it smiled at them. And the smile went from like ear to ear. It was just like a huge smile. Sometimes they describe it as a jagged teeth. Did you see anything like that? Not with this situation.
Starting point is 00:17:39 This thing was just pure solid black. It was darker than the darkness is the only way I can explain that. But there was no facial features. They was in the shape of a man, but I never saw any facial features or, you know, anything like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But one of my experiences I do have that type of thing. We'll make sure we hit on it then. Oh, yes. So these things slowly tapered off. And then I think it was at least a month or two where I had this reprieve. I could feel it, but I didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And at that point, I had been so tormented. It was, even though I could sense it being there, it was better than me seeing it. because there was a different level of fear of, you know, okay, I can feel something in the room with me versus seeing something in the room with me, you know. So one night I go to bed and, you know, through this whole time, I just pray every single night before I go to bed, you know, God, please, you know, keep me safe, keep this thing away from me. And even though I prayed, you know, every single night, this thing still appeared. And it was like, okay, what's going on here? What did I do?
Starting point is 00:19:21 Did I do something wrong? You know, why isn't God protecting me from this thing, you know? And so it tapered off. And I remember going to bed And I wake up and I just I am paralyzed. I can't move. And I feel like I can't breathe.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It's like this suffocating feeling. And I opened my eyes. And at this point in time, my sister and I had gotten a bunk bed. And, you know, my parents gave me a choice being the older sister. do you want the top or the bottom? And they expected me to pick the top bunk bed because, you know, a kid doesn't want to be on the top bunk bed.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And I picked the bottom bunk bed because I felt more safe from this thing. You know, maybe having the top bunk bed there, I wouldn't be able to see the ceiling. I wouldn't be able to see it on the ceiling, you know, a type of thing. And so I'm laying there and I open my eyes and this thing is directly above me, is back against the top of the bunk bed, which there's not a whole lot of room between, you know, the top bed and the bottom bed.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Yeah. And I just remember feeling like this hot, peached breath. And I just started screaming like I'd never screamed before. It was some of the worst fear I've ever experienced in my life. and it was actually so bad. And by this point, my parents had gotten used to me waking up in the middle of the night screaming.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And, you know, at this point, half the time, you know, they wouldn't even come down and see what was wrong anymore. But this time it was so bad that my dad actually came running down the hallway naked with his gun in his hand because he thought someone crawled in the window or something. Jeez. And,
Starting point is 00:21:27 yeah, it was pretty bad. And after I'd calm down and I could tell him what was going on, I could tell he was frustrated. You know, he's like, you know, I don't know what's going on with my daughter. You know, this thing keeps happening to her. And it seems like it's getting worse. And it seems like after that experience, things kind of tapered off again. And I could always feel it there, honestly, even to the same.
Starting point is 00:22:01 day, I could feel it, but it hasn't done anything like that for a really long time. So, I don't know if you wanted to go into my Bigfoot experience or not, but. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Well, I think it was Bigfoot anyways. So I'm about 15 years old, maybe 16, and my great grandma comes to live with us. and she had gotten dementia and couldn't live alone anymore. And she used to go on really long walks, you know, when she lived alone.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So we tried to keep that up with her. And we had this old logging road on our property. And it was, it wasn't too steep. So it was a fairly easy walk. And every day that the weather was good, we would go out and, you know, take grandma for a walk. and we would take one of my dad's dogs. You know, they're trained in, you know, hunting bear and Cougar, and they were fierce protectors.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So my dad wanted us to take the dogs. So I remember we took one of my dad's dogs, your name was Hawkeye. And we'd been to walk in 15, maybe 20 minutes. Same route we took every single day. And all of a sudden, all the hair on my arms stand up and I get this really weird feeling. I'm like, huh, that's strange.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And at the same time, the dog started acting really weird. He, all of his hackles went up. And he made this growling, whimpering sound, which I've never heard this dog do before. I mean, this dog is faced off bear and cougar. He's not afraid of anything, you know. And he starts sniff in the air. And about that time, the smell hits me. And I've never smelled this smell ever in my life.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It was this mixture of wet dog and skunk and garbage and rotten meat and body odor just all wrapped into one. And it was thick in the air, if that makes any sense. It was just heavy. And the dog starts looking up the hill towards our right at the time because we're going up the hill. And the brush is pretty thick up there. And you could see for a little ways, but once you get further into the trees, there's a lot of undergrowth with the big trees. And I can kind of see something back there. but I can't identify what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I can just see movement in the brush, if that makes sense. And I'm getting really concerned because if it was a bear, he would be barking and acting like it was bear. And the figure that I could see looked bigger than what a man should be. And the smell, you know, I was concerned I'd never smelled that smell ever. So I told Grandma, I said, okay, Grandma, let's, you know, let's go home because she's kind of oblivious to what's going on at this point. And we always had this stump that we would walk to. That would be our little marker.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And, you know, she'd see the stump and, okay, well, we made it. Let's turn back and go home. And she said, well, we haven't made it to the stump yet. And I'm like, okay, Grandma, well, I have to go to the bathroom. You know, because I didn't want to scare her. And so she's like, oh, okay, I guess we'll go. And I said, we'll take an extra long walk tomorrow. You know, let's just go.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And so we turned around, and I was wanting to run out of there because I was so scared. But Grandma couldn't walk very fast. So I'm worried about what's up in the brush that I know shouldn't be there. and us getting home and gravel can't walk very fast. So we start walking back and the whole time the dog, his hackles are up and he's just on point. Like you can tell he's ready. If anything happens, you know, he's going to protect us, but he's not going to go in those woods if he doesn't have to. and he's watching the hill all the way up as we go and this smell follows us and I can hear in the brush
Starting point is 00:26:54 something paralleling us as we're going down the road. You know, and I've lived here most of my life, you know, we've never had an experience like this before. You know, we've seen bare on the property and, you know, but nothing, nothing like this. and it follows us all the way back to the house. And I get ground on the house and I go and I put the dog away. And we had five dogs at the time. And all of the other dogs are just kind of whining and they're anxious,
Starting point is 00:27:28 kind of, you know, trotting around in their pins, missing the air. Like you can definitely tell they know something's up too. And I go back in the house and I was like, oh, you guys are back early. I'm like, oh, yeah, I had to pee. And I never told my parents what happened that afternoon because I didn't think they would believe me, for one. You know, I'd never actually saw anything. You know, I saw something moving in the brush. And I knew my parents would just say, oh, you have an overactive imagination.
Starting point is 00:28:05 and whatever. So later that night, and we lived in an old double white up there, later that night, I had my bedroom open for fresh air, and I remember waking up, and I don't know what time it was, and I wake up to this smell that I had smelled earlier that day,
Starting point is 00:28:33 and I'm laying in bed, and I can hear something walking up our driveway. And our driveway came up and it went along the side of the trailer back to where my dad's shop was and the dogs were. And I hear something and it's walking on two feet. It wasn't four feet. It was two feet. And it sounded heavy. I don't know if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And it walks up the driveway and it stopped at my window. and I can hear a kind of huffing and like smelling, if that, I don't know how to describe it, but, and I know it's right outside my window, and I was just too scared to look. And I'm kind of kicking myself now. I wish I would have looked, but maybe it's glad. I think it's a good thing I didn't, but, and it stands outside my window for, a few seconds and then the dogs start going off and you know they're barking and whining and do the same thing that they had done earlier that day which you know if a bear's there they are
Starting point is 00:29:49 ferocious and just you know barking their heads off and this was just different and I remember as soon as the dog started going off this thing made like kind of like a snort of annoyance I guess. This is the only way I can describe it. And I can hear it turn and walk back down the driveway. And as soon as the footsteps, I can't hear the footsteps anymore. I see my parents light turn on and, you know, my dad goes out to check out what's going on. And then the dogs calm down and that was it. You know, nothing like it had ever happened before and it hasn't happened since. So I guess I never saw Bigfoot, but I don't know what else it would be. Yeah. And okay, so, I mean, what you described is things that people, a lot of people who have actually
Starting point is 00:30:49 seen the creature describe as the environment around them before they have a sighting. And so chances are, especially being in the, I don't think you said it on the recording here, but I know where you live. There's a good chance that there's something going on there, especially something. since it seems like it followed you back to the house. And I mean, I'm assuming that's what you think, too. It seems like it kind of followed you. Yes. I do believe that it followed me. Yeah. Why do you think that is now? I mean, if these things are so elusive and resistant to being seen by people, and this is a common question that I often think about and ask people, you know, when it's relevant. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:28 these things are like, you know, the mean that goes around, hide and go seek world champion. and you can't find them. But there are times that they allow themselves to be seen. You know, sometimes you do stumble across these things and you catch them off guard, but there are times that they literally allow you to see them. And then in your case, if this was a Bigfoot, follow you home, never to do anything, never to come back. But it certainly let its presence be known to you, at least, that it was there. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I truly don't know. I have wondered that myself, especially, you know, my parents still live there to this day. And I asked my dad and my mom the other day, have you ever had any weird experiences and, you know, anything like that? And, you know, my dad believes in Bigfoot, but he said, I've never seen one. And, you know, honestly, Tony, I don't, I don't know. I really don't know. it's you know uh you said that your dad believes in bigfoot do you know why your dad believes in bigfoot is like a cultural thing out there on the west coast where it's like you know it's
Starting point is 00:32:37 so ingrained to the culture that some people just grow grow up believing that they these things exist or you know did somebody tell him their personal story did he ever tell you why he believes um i think it's a little bit of both um he said he's had friends that have told them their stories um he he's never divulged this to me um But my dad loves the woods. And anytime he can go out in it, I mean, they live in it. But, you know, and he said there's just so, such a vast area of woodland that, you know, it's kind of arrogant for us to think that we've found everything.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So I can remember when I was younger going through a box of my dad's stuff from when he was younger and he had these old big foot books, pictures and stories. I think it was from maybe the 70s or 80s. I mean, they were fairly older books. So I think it's something he's always been interested in. And he actually told me, he said, I've always wanted to. just seen one. And I've been disappointed that I haven't seen one yet, but I do believe that they're there. Yeah, fair enough. I mean, I know there's just, there's a lot of different reasons why people believe. I mean, certainly even me, I've never seen anything. For me, it's just I've heard
Starting point is 00:34:04 so many stories that I believe in Bigfoot, you know, and I believe the Bigfoot before I started this show. It was just, I listened to a lot of people's personal encounters. I was fascinated by a topic, and at some point I crossed over that threshold into believing they exist. And then, you know, once I started the show and talked to people out there experiences, I was like, now I really believe they exist. And so, you know, it's just, and everybody has their own threshold of belief to begin with. Some people are much easier to believe in things and others. That's why there are people out there that, you know, don't believe in any of this kind of stuff that we talk about in the show because they, they are a different type of person that, you know, needs certain things to happen for them to cross over that threshold. belief. And then there's some people that, you know, you can just say, hey, yesterday, the sun came down out of the sky, landed in my backyard. I walked up to a pet it, gave it a kiss and went back into the sky, and somebody's going to believe the story, you know? So, I mean, it's just, it is what it is. But I find it very interesting. I'm glad you shared that and stuff. I know that maybe was a little bit of
Starting point is 00:35:12 a segue from some of the other things that we were talking about, but timeline wise, it fit. because as you were a kid, you experienced these paranormal things in your house, which are terrifying, especially for a kid to go through, not to mention anybody else. And then you have this Bigfoot experience. And I know you had other experiences as an adult that we can get into right now. But before we get into that, I just want to ask you your own personal opinion and thought, do you think this possible Bigfoot experience that you had is any way related to a paranormal type stuff that was going on at your house? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I've thought about that too. I tend to believe that the Bigfoot might be related to the Nephilim in some ways. You're my kind of people. And I know that they're, you know, the Nephilim, obviously, I don't know if they're technically a spiritual being, but, you know. know, they come from the spiritual beings, the, you know, the fallen ones, all that. But I don't know. I've thought about that.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And I've heard some people's theories that Bigfoot is more paranormal than physical. But, you know, I just, I don't know yet, Tony. That's fine. That's fine. There are a lot of things that when I first started the show, I think I said, I don't know a whole lot. And as I started hearing more people's stories, it allowed me to venture into what, you know, started drawing some personal conclusions, not that it's factual. Anything that I say on this show doesn't mean it's true. If I say I believe it doesn't mean it's true. It just means that that's
Starting point is 00:37:06 kind of way I lean. I don't think I would ever say 100 percent, I believe that Bigfoot are remnant of some kind of nephalum type origins. But that's where I lean. But that's where I lean. But to say that that's what it is 100% no way. Just like I would never say that it's just an animal walking around the woods that we haven't caught. Just like I wouldn't say that it's an alien from outer space. I don't know. But what we're here to do is theorize and think together. And that's what we do. And people seem to enjoy going through that process with us. So why don't we move into your adult life? And I don't want to skip anything. So why don't you start us off now that you're an adult, you've had other experiences. I do want to get into a side thing. I don't know if it's a
Starting point is 00:37:54 side thing or not, but I know you had an incident with your ex-husband. And in the email you said, but that's a different story. I'm like, nope, we're going to get into it if you want to get to it. So I just a fair warning. We can get into that. Yeah. Fair warning. I'd like to get into that if it's possible. But I'll let you kind of take it away now that's your adult, what happens? Okay, so I moved out of my parents' house and I moved it with a friend of her parents and I was really excited to get out of there not realizing that things can follow people. And I remember it was the first night I was sharing a room with my friend and I go to sleep and I wake up again paralyzed in fear. and I look at the foot of the bed and I see that shadow figure again.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And in my mind, I hear it tell me you can't get rid of me that easy. And at that point, it turns into this big black wolf with red eyes and it leaps at me. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:11 I get up and I start screaming and my poor friend scared the crap out of her too. And then I realized, okay, this is going to be, you know, I can't just move and this is going to be over. So shortly after that, I went and I got my own place and I met my ex-husband. I want, I'm going to interject again because I'm going to forget and we need. needed to make sure we hit on this. You're saying that this thing, if I heard you right, turned into a black wolf with red eyes and leaped at you. Yes. And where was it again?
Starting point is 00:39:54 It was on the wall? At the foot of the bed. At the foot of the bed. Now... Yeah, and it was a large king-sized bed. Okay. So it leaps at you, and you're married at this time, right? Or you weren't? No, not at this time. Okay. So it leaps at you and what happens? And right before it gets to me, it like disappears. Okay. So you never felt anything physical. Right. Not with this experience.
Starting point is 00:40:23 No. Okay. So I just want to tell you this. And I know I've said it maybe once or twice in the show, but, you know, we have a lot of new listeners. So I'll retell the story. I was listening to another program. And a caller called in to share a story that he had where he was in his bedroom with his wife. They had a bad night.
Starting point is 00:40:43 they were arguing a lot. They're laying in bed and they're mad at each other. I don't think either one was sleeping. And he starts seeing these shapes appearing at the bottom of bed, these different color shapes. I think he did say they were red shapes. But they started, he started seeing these. And he nudged her and he asked, do you see this? And she said, yes, I see this. And something inside of him told him that he should look to his left. And when he looked to his left, he saw a four-legged dog standing in the middle of his room, absolutely huge, bigger than a wolf with red eyes. Oh, wow. And I've heard this type of thing several times where people say a dog appears in their house with red eyes. And it reminds me a lot of the inubis. It reminds me a lot of the dog man.
Starting point is 00:41:36 it reminds me a lot of this idea that a demonic dog appears. And so I just wanted to kind of branch off into that and just let you know that I've heard that before, you know? It's hard when you have these experiences, you know. It's hard to talk to people about it, you know. A lot of people think that you're crazy or, you know, you're just making it up. And that's why I've never really told my story to people, you know, outside of my close circle. because, you know, it's hard people don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:42:13 You know, these are things that truly happen to you. And it's sad, but it's kind of nice to know other people have experienced that. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I mean, if I experienced that, I would have a really hard time telling people unless I knew other people had experienced that. And that's why I kind of interjected and stuff because, you know, like I said in the beginning before we even start recording, you know, I want you to talk as much as possible,
Starting point is 00:42:44 but sometimes I just, I had to interject there because I could tell the way you were telling the story. I was like, I don't want her thinking she's alone in this. And I didn't want to forget. So anyways, you told that story. I interjected you. The audience is having enough of me talking. So go ahead and take it away. So I move out and I get my own apartment. And I'm working two jobs. So I really don't have much time to be at home and sleep. So the experiences really died off. And I meet my ex-husband and I move in with him. And, you know, I tell him about these experiences because at this time, they're gone,
Starting point is 00:43:27 but they're not 100% gone. I could always feel this thing in the background, if that makes sense. And I could tell he didn't believe me. He is just very patronizing. Oh, okay, yeah, you see ghosts. okay. But I just wanted to give him a fair warning. So I think we'd been, we hadn't quite gotten married yet.
Starting point is 00:43:56 We'd been together a little over a year at this time. And we lived in this apartment complex. And I kept having these really bad nightmares that we just vivid dreams. that I knew were demonically influenced. I don't remember any of them at this point, but he would wake me up because I'd be thrashing and yelling out in my dreams or whatever. And my ex-husband was very much into home defense,
Starting point is 00:44:35 I guess is a good way to put it. He had a gun collection and a knife collection. And every night before we'd go to bed, he'd lock all the doors and make sure all the windows were locked. And he always slept with the bedroom door shut and locked, period. And I remember we're in bed and I go to sleep and I slept against the wall and he slept against on the side of the bed that was close to the door. And I remember waking up and I just felt like I was suffocating.
Starting point is 00:45:09 and I couldn't really move. And I can't remember if I could only move my head or if I could just move my eyes. But I remember looking down towards the bedroom door because I could just feel this evil presence getting closer and closer like it was coming down the hall. And the next thing I know, I see the bedroom door open. and there's these two figures standing there. And one enters the room and then the other one does. And the second one that enters the room, as soon as it walks through the door, it drops down onto all fours.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And this is a very, they look like humans. But the second one was very tall and lengthy with very skinny arms and legs, but very defined and thick joints, if that makes any sense. And I remember that one being like a tan color, not quite skin color, a little more yellow than skin color. And it drops down on all floors, and it crawls like a spider across the room. And it comes along the foot of the bed, and I can't move and I can't scream. just absolutely terrified. And I feel it, and I can see it, start crawling up the foot of the bed on top of me.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And it gets on top of me, and I can feel its weight pushing me down into the bed. And it had a round head, a little more rounds than a normal person. I don't remember seeing any hair, but it had large. yellow eyes and it looked down at me and it smiled this huge smile from ear to ear and I just remember seeing hundreds of pointy little jagged teeth and I remember feeling its hot breath on my face and this other figure is just standing by the side of the bed watching. Like he's got his arms crossed and it's just standing there leisurely watching. It's like he's giving this thing permission to do this to me is kind of how I,
Starting point is 00:48:00 the feeling that I got. And I remember the creature that's on top of me brings up his left hand. And he has very long spindly. fingers, again, with the very large, defined joints. And he kind of wiggled his fingers in my face, and he says, we're here to take your soul. And I remember he took his hand, starting with his first finger, and he started pushing it into the center of my chest.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And it was a very cold, painful feeling that I'd never ever experienced before. And slowly he pushed his whole hand down into my chest. And he's got this huge smile on his face the whole time it's doing this. And I can feel his fingers wickling inside of my chest, Tony. And I just remember feeling this cold pulling feeling like it was really taking my soul. And at this point, I'm so scared. I can't even stink. And finally, and I can't speak.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And I remember just praying, Jesus helped me, Jesus helped me in my mind. And after, I don't know how long it went on for, but after saying Jesus helped me a couple of times, it just stopped. They both just disappeared. and I got up just screaming and crying and, you know, I was so terrified I couldn't even breathe. And, of course, my ex-husband wakes up and, you know, oh, what's going on? What's going on? And he thought, oh, you're just having another one of your nightmares and, you know, you're just being overdramatic about a bad dream.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And then there's a knock on the door and the guy that lives in the apartment next to, to us with a cop. And I remember my ex-husband answered the door when he came to get me. He said, the neighbor's here. He wants to make sure you're still alive. And
Starting point is 00:50:47 the poor guy, he was out there in his boxers with his police issue gun. He's like, okay, I just wanted to make sure you're okay because you were screaming pretty bad. And so I just, I remember sitting on the couch and I'm still crying, because I'd never, it was scary.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I had never experienced such fear in my life before. And I, I wanted it to be a dream. I wanted, you know, I wanted it to not have happened. And I'm trying to explain what's going on to my husband. And, and he, I could tell he didn't believe me. And I said, well, you know what? If this didn't really happen, why was the bedroom door? open.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And I remember he just kind of looked at me and he got a little pale and he's like, okay, okay, fine. And so shortly after that, we got married. And this is via the other long story. So before we got married, he told me that he had, um, bipolar. And being young and naive, I didn't understand that there was severe forms of bipolar. I thought it was just, oh, you have mood swings. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And he didn't divulge any different to me either. So we get married, and the day we get back from our honeymoon, I had gone to have lunch with a girlfriend. and he was just acting a little funny, a little on edge, little paranoid. And I didn't think anything of it. I thought, well, it's just the stress of the wedding and everything. And, you know, so I get home and my mom is there, which, you know, she had stopped by because we, you know, we'd gone for a week and she wanted to see me. and I remember walking in the apartment
Starting point is 00:53:07 and he's just very on edge, ranting and raving of, I don't even remember about what now, but he'd shaved his head. And he said he'd join the military. And I'm like, well, that would have been nice to know to have this conversation with your new wife. Yeah. So he told my mom to leave.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And my mom just thought, the whole situation was very strange. So as soon as my mom left, he took my cell phone, and he told me that he was going to keep my cell phone for the rest of the day, and he was going to let me call anybody. And I'm like, what's going on here? And then he proceeds to bring out his whole guns and knife collection. And, you know, he had AK-47, an S-K-S with a bayonet, you know, 9-millimeter.
Starting point is 00:54:01 He had a 40-millimeter. I mean, just pretty much every single gun you could imagine he had. And hunting knife, machetes, you know, he had a very large collection. And he starts cleaning all of his guns and loading them. And he's ranting and raving about the government's coming to get us and just all these crazy things. And he keeps saying, if the cops come, I'm going to kill him. You know, if the cops come, I'm going to kill him. And I have no idea where any of this is coming from.
Starting point is 00:54:39 And I know I told him at one point, I said, okay, give me my phone because I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I'm going to call my mom like, you know, I'm going to call somebody, his mom, something. And he, again, refused. He actually hid my cell phone from me. And he actually at one point had stripped down completely naked. It was ranting through the house. Just total, just total craziness. And his father had passed away about five years prior to us getting married.
Starting point is 00:55:17 He was older than I was. And I remember he brought out his dad's ashes. And they were in a little box. And he pours two shot glasses of whiskey. And then he takes his dad's ashes. and he put the ashes in both of the shot glasses. And he told me to take a shot. And I said, I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I'm not going to drink your father's ashes. Like, that's, that's cannibalism. That's like, I don't even know. It's wrong. Right. Yeah. And he took his 9mm, and he took his 9mm, and he put it to my forehead.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And he said, you're going to drink. it. And so I did. And at that point, he said, we're going to go on a little drive. So we go in the car, or in his truck, and he's got his AK-47. He's got a little 22 pistol. He's got his 9-millimeter. I mean, he's got everything, and he's got a bunch of knives. And, you know, through this whole, and this is the condensed version. And through this whole thing. He keeps saying, you know, if the cops show up, I'm going to kill the cops. Or if your mom and dad show up, I'm going to kill your mom and dad or your sisters or whatever. You know, it's just, it was very intense.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And he has me drive out to this area where out in the woods where we used to go target shooting. And I knew that's where he was having me go. And this is a very isolated area. very, very isolated area. And we start going up the hill. We get off the freeway. We start going up the hill. And I asked him, I said, you know, where, even though I knew where we were going,
Starting point is 00:57:21 because he was giving me direction, you know, turn here, turn there. Even though I knew where we were going, I asked him, I said, you know, where are you taking me? Where are we going? And he said, I'm going. to take you back to the place where it all began. And I wasn't sure what that meant, but it terrified me. It absolutely terrified me. And so I just, you know, I just started praying. I'm like, okay, God, I don't know what to do. And, you know, my brand new husband has gone crazy. And he's got
Starting point is 00:58:01 these guns and he's threatened you to kill all these people. And I'm out in the middle of the woods. And I don't know what to do, but, you know, give me some guidance here. And I just heard this little voice in the back of my head to, you know, run. You need to run. And I was driving the truck at that time. So I waited for an opportune moment where he was looking out the window. And I threw the truck in the park and I bail out of the truck. And I start running down the head. And I started running down the hill. And I knew we were very far from the freeway. So I was just thinking, if I can get to the, or the highway, if I can just get to the highway, maybe I can flag somebody down and I can get some help. But then I was afraid because he's got all these guns and he's always been saying,
Starting point is 00:58:54 this whole time, you know, if the cops show up or if someone shows up, I'm going to kill you or I'm going to kill them. And so I start running. And at the time I had very long hair. I had long hair all the way down to my butt. And I had it in a ponytail that day. And I'm running through the woods and I can hear him behind me. And I can see the highway and I can see the cars going by on the highway through the trees. And I'm like, okay, I'm almost there. And it's kind of like just in a movie in slow motion.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'm just about to break through the trees to reach the highway. And he grabs me hair. And he wraps it around his fist, and he drags me back up the hill to the truck. And he throws me into the truck, and he takes his 45, and he puts it, he cocks it, and he puts it to my forehead. And he said, if you ever try to do something like that again, I'm going to effing kill you. And at that point, I think he got in the driver's seat, and he turned the truck. truck around.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And I think by me doing that, he realized that he couldn't control the situation. Like, I could get away and hide from him potentially. And maybe, you know, he was very, he was a very controlling person. So he did not like to lose control. So I think that situation, you know, made us, made him want to head back into town. And as we're going back into town, he stopped by one of his friend's house. And his wife was eight months pregnant at the time. And on the way to his friend's house, he keeps telling me, you better keep her mouth shut.
Starting point is 01:00:51 You better not say anything or I'm going to kill her. I'm going to cut the baby out of her belly. And I'm going to make him watch before I kill her or before I kill him. And so we go to his friend's house and I'm visibly upset. Like, I don't know what is going on. I just had a gun put in my face twice in one day. And I don't know if my husband is going to kill me or if he's going to kill somebody else. And so we're there.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And, you know, my ex-husband, he's pacing and he's just ranting and raving. And his friend is like, dude, what's going on? What's wrong with you? And every time my ex-husband had his back turned, you know, I would mouth to his friend, like, help me. I need help. Call talk. Call 911. And we were there for maybe, maybe 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And finally he said, dude, you got to go. I don't know what's going on with you, but, you know, my wife's in the house, you got to go. And I was really hoping that he would call the cops or something, you know. But this guy grew weed on his property. And at the time, it was illegal in this state. So I think he didn't call the cops because he didn't want to be involved because, you know, he had his need and that was more important I guess.
Starting point is 01:02:14 So this this was a whole like eight hour ordeal so we go home and we were home for maybe 10 minutes and there was a knock on the door and
Starting point is 01:02:30 I just remember thinking oh no oh no because if this is the cops and through the day he's just getting more and more wound up, more and more crazy, I guess you could say, and more aggressive, you know, grabbing me and shoving me around. And I go, I look at him like, what do you want me to do?
Starting point is 01:02:58 And he said, answer the door. So he grabs his AK-47 that I know is loaded. And he goes to stand behind the door and he has me open the door. And it's a cop standing there. and the cop asked, so are you, Wendy? And I said, yes. And he said, well, we're looking for, you know, is Micah there? I said, yeah, he's here too.
Starting point is 01:03:31 He says, oh, well, we would like to talk to him. I said, well, I don't think he wants to talk to you right now. And he said, well, no, we really need to talk to him because we need to make sure you guys are both okay. And the cops said, why don't you step out on the front porch and we can talk. And at that point, my ex-husband had tried to shut the door. And the cop had his foot in the door. So I back away. And there's my ex-sustin.
Starting point is 01:04:05 They're fighting with the cop, you know, trying to shut the door. And finally, the cop was able to get in. And then they start wrestling over the gun. And I'm just absolutely terrified because I know that gun is loaded. And thankfully, the cop was able to overpower him. And they ended up taking him to the hospital. And he was in the mental health unit for almost, two months after that.
Starting point is 01:04:46 And I don't know, you know, I don't know to this day if I hadn't have run. If I would, you know, if he would have killed me or not, I would like to think he wouldn't have. But I don't know another reason why we would go out there at that time. But needless to say shortly after that. Um, you know, I essentially nursed him back to health. Um, and I tried to make our marriage work. We went to marriage counseling and, um, it just wasn't something that I wanted to live with for the rest of my life because I, I, I took all of the knives out of the house.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I literally had one parry knife that I would use to cut, you know, to cook with. Um, because I was afraid of waking up one day and. having a big kitchen knife to my throat or, you know, so that was, that was that experience. Wow. Wow. I, holy crap. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Like, that's crazy. Yeah. And, you know, I was young and I, you know, we just got back from our honeymoon. Like, what in the world is going on here. You would never think. It's supposed to be happy.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Yeah, exactly. You're supposed to be happy, loving each other, dreaming about your lives together for the next however many years. Like, that's not a time to be going bananas like that. I mean, wow. I can't. Yeah. I'm speechless. I'm truly, I don't.
Starting point is 01:06:40 What do you say to that? My God. just glad you're alive. Thank you. I am too. I mean, you really, I mean, one wrong move and who knows what could have happened. And that's just, holy cow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Wow. See, life is a journey. And it has its ups and downs. And people just, everybody's life story is different. And everybody has certain points in their lives that it's just, a dramatic point in their life personally. And I'm convinced that we can learn so much from people's stories in life. And even when it's not paranormal necessarily, but just such a dramatic experience, maybe that would give what you just shared. Maybe it would give some other ladies, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:33 confidence to try to get out of a situation that they're in right now. Unfortunately, there's a lot of cowards in this world that, you know, bad are women. And, you know, I don't understand because I'm not in your shoes as a woman. I don't understand what it's like to be in a position where you truly feel helpless. You don't know what to do. And you just feel like one wrong step in the person that's supposed to love you could take your life. I mean, that feeling, I try to sit here like while you're telling your story, I'm trying to put myself in your shoes and understand how you're feeling.
Starting point is 01:08:13 but I don't think I could ever truly understand it because I'm never in that situation, you know? And it's just, wow. Yeah, it was definitely life-changing. I feel for a while, and even to this day, sometimes, you know, have PTSD episodes from it. Um, but I, when after it first happened, I really withdrew into myself. Like, I didn't want to go anywhere. I didn't want to do anything. Um, and finally I, you know, because I was scared.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I was afraid. Well, if my husband can do this, what about the stranger walking down the street? You know? Yeah. Um, and I, I just, I just decided that I wasn't going to live my own. life in fear. And, you know, that took a little bit to start applying into my life. Like you, my friends would call, hey, let's go out and do something.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And my initial response is, oh, no, no, no, I think I'll just stay in and watch a movie or whatever. And it's like I had to start making that conscious effort to go out and do more, you know. And it wasn't easy, but, you know, I do. You feel that when life gives you situations, you know, they're not pleasant all of the time, but you learn from them and you grow from them. Well, I do want to thank you before we go any further for sharing that. I, well, going into it had no idea it was going to be that dramatic.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And if I put you on the spot, I apologize for that. And I know, that's okay. I just, man, I just can't say thank you enough for sharing that. And I, and mostly because, like, I think what you just did is empower women who are in a situation like that to try to get out of it and know that they don't have to live with it like that and they don't have to stay in that situation. And so, I think you sharing that story really did good for people. I hope so. I truly do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:37 If you're in a situation like that, try to find a way out. I know. And even with what your ex-husband did, he was manipulating you through other people. So he wasn't just threatening you, but he was threatening the people that you love. And he was also threatening people that maybe you didn't know too well, but he threatened people and played on your empathy for other people because he clearly lacked that. And so the idea of killing a pregnant woman and cutting a baby out of the womb, like that's just, psychotic and
Starting point is 01:11:09 he put you in a situation where you probably would have chose death before allowing somebody to cut a baby out of a woman's womb. I would have, yes. And he knew that and that's why he did that. And so there are people out there that are
Starting point is 01:11:27 abused right now and they're in a similar situation where they're being manipulated to be controlled. And you don't need to sit that and you can try to find a way out. I don't know everybody's situation, but I just feel like I needed to say that. So, wow, took a serious turn. Woo. Hey, it's, it's, this is real life stuff. I mean, we're, yeah, we're a paranormal show. We dive into conspiracies and stuff, but this is a
Starting point is 01:11:57 real life show. These are real people with real life experiences and you just can't predict everything. So again, Wendy, I thank you for sharing that. I'm going to, we're going to backtrack a little bit to before you guys were married. You had these black masses or whatever they were. Opened the door, came in. One crawled over to you like a spider crawled up on you. Told you it was going to take your soul, puts its hands down your throat. You feel it.
Starting point is 01:12:28 That's terrifying. And again, we talked about it earlier and you said it was going to come up. The smile with the jagged teeth. it's a very common thing. You're not alone in that. And I just feel like I need to let you know that, that you're not the only person who has seen that. We even had a guy come on the show episode 29.
Starting point is 01:12:51 It's called Bedroom Visitations. David comes on the show, and he talks about several different things, but one of the experiences he had was he was in bed with his wife one night, and he wakes up because there was these, and he's in the end. intro to the show. There's two great entities pulling him off the bed. But what isn't said in the intro is that not only did he feel like he's being pulled off the bed, but he also felt like
Starting point is 01:13:16 there was something being pulled out of him. And when you talk about the idea of what they were saying, they're going to take your soul and they reached in like they were going to pull it out of you, people say that there are three parts of the human body. There's the actual body, there's a spirit, and the soul. There are three separate things that are contained in this house. that we have as a human body. And so the idea of, I personally don't think that they had the authority to do that anyways. I think they were more or less torturing you in it. I personally believe you can't even sell your soul to the devil, even though you think you did. If you're out there and you think you sold your soul to devil, I don't believe that you actually truly did because I don't
Starting point is 01:13:55 think your soul is owned by you to sell. I think it's owned by God. And so you can't sell something that you don't have ownership over. If God truly is the decided, factor for all our fates, you know, for eternity, then he holds that in his hands and he controls that. So I don't believe that your soul was truly going to be taken, but I think the threat was there and the manipulation. Yeah. And so it's a very, it's a very interesting thing. Gosh, that's scary. Like, you have a scary life. Yes. If you don't find me asking you, roughly you don't have to give it an exact age, but how old are you? I'm 32.
Starting point is 01:14:38 All right, you're 32, okay. You're younger than me, young lady, so there you go. I know it's not polite to ask people these things, but I'm Tony and I say things. No, that's okay. So you're 32 years old, and you had these experiences in your life. Do you feel like this is going to be a lifelong thing for you? When I talk to my mom about it, because there were some other experiences.
Starting point is 01:15:06 You know, I would smell things like men's colone, super overpowering, to where I give you a headache, and then it would just disappear. Or a really pretty floral scent, and it would just smell really great, and then it would just turn into the sickly sweet smell, and then it would disappear. And finally, I called my mom because that had happened and I was alone in the house. This was before I got married. And I called my mom.
Starting point is 01:15:42 I'm like, Mom, these things are going on. I'm alone and I'm scared and I don't have anyone to talk to. And she actually started crying. And she said, she just kept saying, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm like, Mom, why are you sorry? like what do you have to be sorry for? And she said that my, when she was young, I have,
Starting point is 01:16:09 my mom and I have two other aunts and my grandma that all of the women on my mom's side of the family experienced paranormal stuff. And my mom never talked about it. acknowledged that, you know, I mean, we grew up in a Christian home and she acknowledged that there's angels and there's demons, there's good, there's evil. But she never really expounded past that. Like, oh, yes, I've had experiences, but I'm not going to talk about it because that brings them, you know, that brings them to you, which is another reason why I've never really, you know, talked about it. But she said when she was younger, that she would have
Starting point is 01:16:57 have similar experiences, not to the extent that I explained to her, you know, which is basically what I told you. But the same smells, the same like heavy men's cologne or the sweet smell that goes to really bitter, sickly sweet. And she said that whatever it is, there's something in our family that affects all the women in it. And with my mom and my aunts, their paranormal experiences stopped when they were in their late teens, early 20s.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Excuse me. And with my grandma, I know my grandma, she experienced paranormal stuff almost up to the day she died. And I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's passed down in our family line or if there's a generational curse. But me being 32 and I'm still having experiences up to this day, I don't know. I tend to lean towards it might be something I'll deal with for my whole life. And now that I have a daughter, you know, actually I almost canceled this.
Starting point is 01:18:26 interview because a couple of days after I sent my email to you, my daughter, who's five, she started waking up in the middle of the night screaming. And she said that she was seeing werewolves come out of her closet. And we're very protective over our children. You know, we make sure that what they watch on TV is appropriate. You know, she, I don't even know necessarily if she would know exactly what a werewolf is. I'm sure she has friends, you know, cousins, older cousins. But, and she started experiencing things.
Starting point is 01:19:11 And I could tell it wasn't just a five-year-old's imagination. she was waking up legitimately terrified. And when I would ask her, you know, what's going on? Mommy, there's werewolves that come out of my closet. And I know one night I've been going up and laying down with her so she could go to sleep at night. And she's been refusing to let us turn the bedroom light out. And we go up there and we read her little children's Bible. and pray with her.
Starting point is 01:19:49 And I went to go close the bedroom, the closet door, thinking that might help. And she started, she started freaking out. She said, no, don't close it. I said, why, baby? Well, I want, if something's in there, I want to be able to see it. Like, when I was young, I wanted my closet door shut. Because if something was in there, I didn't want to see it, you know, but I think, her, for her, the idea of the closet door opening or not being able to see, you know, what's in the closet was more scary for her, um, is how I took that. Um, but I guess I made the correlation in my mind between emailing you and, you know, these things popping up all of a sudden. Um, but I decided, you know, I, I just felt like I needed to tell my story. Um, and if this is something that, um, um, and if this is something that, um, um, um, um, if this is something that, um, um, um, um, um, if this is something that, um, um, um, um, um, if this is something that is something that.
Starting point is 01:20:47 my daughter is going to have to deal with. And, you know, I, you know, I guess I'll just be right there for her. And it's, and it's kind of hard because I was always upset with my mom and my parents when I would go to them, you know, hey, I'm seeing these things. And I felt like they were brushing it off. Like, oh, well, maybe it was just a shadow or the moonlight or, you know, whatever. And now being a parent, like, yeah, what do you say? Yep, baby, that was a demon in your room.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yep, you saw a demon. You know, how do you handle that? Because you want to be honest with them, but you don't want to scare them more either, you know? So, yeah. I think knowing your child, I think all kids are different. And so you got to pay attention to who your child is and know how much your child can handle as far as information goes. But I think as your child matures and gets older and is more intelligent, you know, just through maturity, I think being open and honest with your child is extremely important. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:10 You can't fight a battle that you don't even know you're in. If you're in a middle of a war and you have no clue, then that's dangerous. And it's not healthy for anybody to be in a middle of a battlefield and not even know you're in a middle of a war. And so I think it's very important. I know a lot of times people tend to try sheltering their kids from these experiences that they went through and hope that it doesn't happen to their kids. But if you start seeing things that are happening through your children that you experienced,
Starting point is 01:22:41 instead of running away from it, instead of ignoring it, hoping it goes, away, well, it didn't go away for you. So take it on head on because as the parent, you're the authority in that house. And just like anybody else, you would never let somebody come in your house and smack your kid around. You murder the guy, you know? And so you don't, you don't let things on a spiritual level do that either. And so I think it's very important to change the course of action in your family's history. with you being maybe more open and honest with your your children so that they don't go into situations blindly. And it does sound like a generational curse. It absolutely does to me.
Starting point is 01:23:27 It sounds like there's somebody in your history of your family that either maybe did something really crazy or was involved in some crazy stuff or something happens to them that kind of pushed the family into a certain line. I don't believe it can't be undone. done, but I think the first step is to figure out what that is. And so you might need to do some digging and see if you can turn up any information. Well, I've been told in the past that, you know, in my mother's lineage, there was a very famous voodoo witch in New Orleans. And that is where my mother's side of the family comes from.
Starting point is 01:24:12 So I haven't had a chance to look that up to see if that's true because you know how sometimes families are, oh yeah, we've got blah, blah, blah. And it's not really, you know, it's true. It's just family lore. But I think especially now with my daughter experiencing things, that's definitely something I'm going to look into. Because if that's the case, I don't know how to fix that. but I'll find a way. I'll find a way. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, share the show with your friends because that is the best thing you can do to help the show grow.
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