The Confessionals - RELOADED | 232: Traversing Parallel Universes

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

In Episode 232: Traversing Parallel Universes, guest Josh talks with us about his personal experiences and thoughts on a variety of topics. When we first connected with Josh, he sent us an email in which he said that he believed he traversed parallel universes, and we knew we had to speak with him about his experience! From the Mandela effect to the flat earth and the hollow earth, to what is a sasquatch, we cover many unusual things on this show.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinSPONSORSGET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tonyGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5GET ExpressVPN: www.expressvpn.com/confessCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaITikTok: @theconfessionalsDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelAre you a military veteran struggling with thoughts of suicide?Contact Watchman Readiness Corps for REAL help. A veteran-run organization that is designed to help through hands-on survival training.Website: wrc.vetEmail: [e-mail]: [phone]Instagram: wrc_survivalFacebook: colbywrcvet

Merkel Media I guess it's time to go back in time Are you telling me you built a time machine out of a Dolorean Time is but a stubborn

illusion I have a lot of memories of the past People are time traveling within themselves Time travel Is possible This was all circulating

Around the base that a giant had been killed but no one was supposed to talk about it. Reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave

and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. somebody else shoot him in the face shoot him in the face they basically decapitated person got closer got spursing when he got about 15 yards away feel something

pulling at my leg and I look over and there are two small gray entities cooling it and they're literally I'm getting pulled off the bed I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster okay I'll reload it. Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals.

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the Confessionals on a weekly basis, go to the Confessionalspodcast.com and hit the join button today. Now, today we got a great show coming up for you. We actually have Josh coming on the show, and we cover the whole thing this week. We talk about flat earth. We talk about hollow earth. We talk about traversing parallel universes and what is Sasquatch. We talk about it all on this episode. So let's get to it right now. All right, today we have a great guest coming on. We have Josh. Josh, how you doing, man? I'm doing good. How are you? Doing fine. So you have some interesting topics to talk about. So we're going to be covering a lot of different things today. And, you know, I think we're going to start off with the initial email you had sent me with the information in there. But we're going to jump around today on different topics of the deep state theories that you have, the Mandela effect, just to hit on some of the things, hollow earth, hollow moon. So we're going to kind of go around a little bit around the universe today with you.

But I want to start off with the email you sent me because it kind of perked my ears up just because it's different. And you had said, I believe I've pinpointed the moment I traversed a parallel universe stemming from a game of Mario Kart. And that, my friend, makes me say, what? So go ahead and take it away. All right. Awesome.

First of all, thank you very much for having me on the show. This is awesome to reach so many ears out in the world all over the world, like you said, at the beginning of the call. First of all, if you don't mind, I'd like to send a couple shout-outs over the airwaves. First of all, to my wife, Alicia, you are amazing. And, you know, the greatest thing that's ever happened to me in my life. I wouldn't be here today without her and I love you, baby.

Secondly, just a quick shout out to my boys at work, Gerbert, Chadwick Pete Chatterson, Scotty Too Hottie, Barry and Wanti. This shows for you guys.

But yeah, let's get into it. So this happened about 1997 96, somewhere around there. I was home alone at the time, or sorry, I was home with my mom

at the time. I was in the living room playing Mario Kart. And it was just the weirdest thing. It was maybe, I don't know, August or September, somewhere around there. I know I wasn't really doing school at the time, but anyway, I was at home and just playing a game of Mario cards. That was just really the only system.

We had a time. I think it was like a Super Nintendo. But as I'm playing, I'm just doing like the time trials. And it was a neat feature that I remember where you could view the replay of your race. So as I'm playing, you know, I'm just. just farting around and my mom had called me for something. So I went I went there and helped her out. And then as I come back, I sit down and I start just replaying the last race that I just had.

At the time, I was feeling all right. I had just eaten, and all of a sudden I get, like, I get really lightheaded. And I get, oh, just a wave of nausea, wave of Disney. And, like, I remember vaguely blacking out or, you know, just kind of losing consciousness for a quick second. I wake back up, and the replay is, like, it's not the, it's not the, it's not. not what I remember doing in the game. And it's actually really almost disturbing to me because I felt real off. And yeah, as I'm playing the, or sorry, as I'm watching the replay, it just really struck me as weird.

Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I did not do this. You know what I mean? I specifically remember playing the two. track as normal with no problem whatsoever and when I come back to it it's something completely different. It was like

playing for like 10 minutes or so or whatever the time the time trial was and it was just really odd and I remember thinking well this is this is really

messed up and I you know called my when my brothers were all my, I asked them, I was like, yo, guys, look at this. This is, you know, I don't remember doing this whatsoever. This is super trippy. And everything seemed normal. It was perfectly normal.

And then a couple years down the road, I remember, I specifically remember Nelson Mandela passing away in prison, like hearing about it in school. And it just really struck me as odd hearing that he was, you know, he was in South Africa doing a speech. And it just, it blew my mind. I was like, well, this is really weird.

And this also goes into the, like, Berenstein Bears and all that where it doesn't make sense. I remember being spelled a specific way. I remember seeing BHS is where it was Berenstein, not Berenstain. I'm thinking whatever happened I somehow crossed over

or came back or something of the matter and all the sudden I'm remembering something totally different and this game Mario Kart is

you know people could say you know whatever about it but it blew my mind back then and I had no idea

about you know, the alternate realities or, you know, alternate dimensions. It's just something that, you know, really, really caught my attention. And I remember to this day very specifically that I played the level a certain way. I remember beating the entire roster of players because it was just, it was just a computer. But then I come back to this exact same, this exact same replay. and as the character is going, all of a sudden he does a complete 180

and just starts pounding into the wall how the old Mario Kart games used to go where it just hit it and just keeps bouncing back and forth. But to this day, I have no idea what was going on with that and it just really caught my attention and really, really tripped me out. So that's that story. Yeah.

So speaking of the game Mario Kart, I remember that game. And when I was a kid growing up, I actually had it on Nintendo 64. And so it was a very interesting game. I enjoyed it a lot. But what you're talking about kind of reminds me of the game Pilebius that is rumored to be something that was out of Portland, Oregon. Do you ever recall hearing about that game Pallibius? Polybius? It sounds familiar, but I can't ever recall playing it or even seeing it on a shelf, really.

Yeah, so Polybius was an arcade game that was supposedly, now, there's a lot of debate about it, and a lot of people say that it didn't even exist, it never existed, which is convenient to say. But Polybius was an arcade game back, and I think it was like the early 80s. I want to say 1982 or 81 was supposedly put in certain arcades in the Portland area. And it had some kind of psychoactive effect on the players. And supposedly every once in a while these men in suits, you know, a.k.a. men in black would come in and retrieve the data off these machines. And the machines had a very paranormal type effect on these.

kids that were playing it. And there are some people that say to this day that they remember playing this game, Polybius, even though the world is saying never existed, that they remember playing the game. And there's actually a guy in Portland, I think he has an arcade in Portland right now, who says that he remembers working in the arcade and there being a game called Polybius. And every once in a while, people would come in, retrieve data off of it and leave. And it was like, you know, a very mysterious thing. And what you just described just kind of reminded me of Polybius. Oh, yeah.

I can't say that I really remember anything like that, but that's really interesting. Have you ever watched the show Sliders? It was around in like mid-90s or so. I think it had like

the guy from War of the Rings. He played like Gimley or something. It was, it's really interesting. It was like an interdimensional remote that they press in it, like create a wormhole where they could go through different realities. That's a side point, but it sounds, it's almost where the veil's just a little too, a little too thin and weird stuff just pours out or, you know, weird thoughts pour out. That's going to come in to play a little later in my story here. But I definitely think that, you know, the universe is just too big, too massive, you know, our reality to be the only one.

If that makes sense. No, it does make sense. And I think, you know, I guess in the mid-90s, when that shows out, it's science fiction. It's considered science fiction. But now today, science is showing that there are alternate dimensions and that they are peering through them through quantum physics. And, you know, science is on the cusp of proving and showing how quantum physics can prove that there are alternate dimensions. And maybe through the alternate dimensions, there are alternate realities. And there's different, everything that you do in life, you know, where I have the water bottle sitting in front of me. So I'm going to pick up this water bottle. and me picking up this water bottle, there's an alternate dimension where I didn't pick up that water bottle.

And also, somewhere in the universe being so vast and so huge that there are theories that somewhere out in the universe, there is an identical me doing the exact same thing of talking to you and identical you. Like, everything is exactly the same. And so it's very interesting. It's very trippy. And it's way over my head. I'm just a toothless truck driver turn a wheel and pushing past. with a podcast, you know? So I, there's a lot of things that I find fascinating that just really go over my head. And if I ever have time one day, I plan on, you know, researching a lot more and really

understanding some of these topics I don't quite understand. But I get the premise of, which is just very fascinating to me. But I do think that science is starting to come around to proving some things that were considered science fiction. And in doing that is going to, lead to a lot of credibility of people's claims that they say they experience such as time slips and things like that. And I mean, you've experienced such things as like time slips. You mentioned about the inconsistencies in a timeline. Are you talking about the Mario Kart or was there another situation where you have? Oh, there's actually something different from that that happened, oh, maybe a month ago or so.

Me and the wife had a friend over and we're just chatting about his time down in southern Ontario. And he had gone to a doctor down there and it's a little bit different where they'll have like they'll have all their records in like a giant database, right?

So he goes there for like a checkup or something. And the nurse is like, oh, you're returning. I see that you were here like many years before around the time he was a toddler. While he's like, whoa, you know, I've never been, you know, this is my first time being in this doctor's office. So he calls his parents. And they're like, no, you. You've never, you know, you've never had to go down to the doctors there. And, you know, to the state, he doesn't have an explanation for it.

And at the time, we were getting into a real deep conversation. I was like, there's something wrong here. You're not our DJ. She's not our DJ. So it's almost to the point where I don't think reality is a flat plane, but it's more a piece of people crumpled up and each one of those lines or each one of those

sections of paper are different reality that we're all loading around almost like I guess Stephen Hawking string theory and whatnot I'm probably wrong but it's something like that where the universe

isn't as we know it but it's all around us at the same time. Yeah. Everything's happening. All these parallel universes are happening at the same time around us and stuff, but we are in this particular one. And normally, naturally, we don't have the ability to peer through into other dimensions. Now, but like, you know, like I said and stuff,

and a lot of people claim that CERN is doing just this. They're opening up portals into other dimensions and things are coming through. And that is, you know, a whole other topic of conversation. But the concerning thing is if we do gain the ability to appear into other dimensions and universes, what happens? Like, are we all, are we messing up our timeline and their timeline? And is it possible then to bring in something from an alternate universe? The God particle, things like that is, is mind blowing. but if you can peer into other alternate universes,

then it would it would lead you to believe that other universes, people, things can peer back and come through. And that is something that is trippy to think about, but also very scary. Oh, absolutely. It's, yeah, it's something that I fear with the way that we're, you know, the scientific world is, trying to, like you said, peer into other realities where, uh-oh, what if something attaches itself to you? And then now what? You know what? It turns out to World War Z.

No, thank you. That's one of my least favorite realities, bar none. But it's okay with you. I'd like to get into, from the beginning, from all I've heard from my parents and, you know, everything that I've experienced. So back in 1986, this is, I was maybe six months old at the time. And my mother always told me about this experience. We had just been home for, you know, a couple months now. And she always had us babies in a bath net next to their bed. Well, one night she's laying a mess.

They're just looking at me. My dad's next to her sleeping. And all of a sudden, she can't move. She's wide awake. She can't move. And she sees clear as day, a black shape, hover over my bassinet, getting closer. She can't move. Her heart is pounding.

She's wide awake, she tells me. and she's just terrified she's uh you know she praised jesus christ uh you know to lift this oppression off her and as she does that she's able to move she shoots up that thing disappears she wakes my dad up and instantly picks me up and it you know it's something that's just it's really trip me out and, you know, really kind of open my eyes later on in life where, you know, there's, there's something more to this world than, you know, what you can see, touch, and feel. Keep that in mind. Moving forward in life, I was maybe five or six.

Oh, by the way, I come from a pretty large family myself. I have five brothers and a sister. I'm the third youngest, but anyway, I'm about seven or so. I'm running around on my trike in the front yard, or sorry, in the driveway. We have like one of those old camper vans. It's almost like a,

it has the one side door and the two doors at the back that open up. It's a pretty large vehicle. and as I'm playing around in the trike, I start to notice that the band starts to roll backwards down the hill. I'm like, oh, my God, I see my little brother at the very end of the driveway playing with cars. I jump off the trike, run around to the front of the vehicle, grab onto the bumper,

and it's like one of those thin bumper. it's like a thin steel and I'm grabbing that and I'm holding that thing back mind you I'm like six, seven years old and this is like a 2,000 pound vehicle and I'm all mom, dad help the car's moving the car's moving and my dad hops out of the front window runs around to you know to put the vehicle in park and I'm just all I'm just salt tank like oh my god it almost you know almost smushed my brother this is this is crazy and it just goes to show that you know if you if there's something that you believe in if there's something that you're passionate though you can do anything that you want to right uh you know my

brothers were always important in my life and you know just the thought of you know seeing one of them hurt what you know gave me that gave me that super human strength to stop that vehicle from rolling back. It's, you know, one of my fondest, or not fondest, one of my clearest memories from when I was younger. And, well, yeah, moving forward, fast forward a couple more years to 96, 97, the Mario Kart happens.

and shortly thereafter, in 2001, my father passed away. I was in grade 8, and I was just feeling really depressed. It was near the end of the school year, so I was going into high school without my dad's guidance. So it was pretty upsetting for me. You know, everybody was really depressed. And one day after school, I was, walking back

and I kind of had my head down I was slouched you know I was feeling depressed and this woman in her garden I've never met her

never talked to her before my life she looks at me and says hey don't slouch keep her back straight and that like it just

clicked in my mind that's something my father always used to tell me and ever since then I've always you know always stood up, always, you know, helped myself proper and, you know, tried to be the, you know, the best human being that I could possibly be.

Moving forward from there, this is maybe 2006, 2007. I was just out of high school. I had to work at, or a job at our local paper. just in the mail room, you know, manual labor. And the weirdest thing happened one night, I was, I was woken up at about 3 or 4 a.m. No reason why. I just, I woke up and I felt really weird. Like, you know, something off. And I, you know, went and grabbed a drink of water and, you know, went back to bed.

Well, the next morning, I get up to go to work. like three or four coffers down the road. What had happened is a, tragically, a woman and her daughter, I believe, or no, sorry, her son, were tragically murdered by her ex-boyfriend. And that's, you know, that's another thing where it's like, what's going on? Why am I, you know, getting these weird feelings right before tragedy? strikes or, you know, something that's so unexplainable that I'm like, whoa, you know, what kind of, you know, different force is talking to me, telling me something is off

in my proximity. It's something that just really, really stuck with me, you know, just like the Mario Card incident. And it propelled me further into learning about. the paranormal and, you know, the extra real, you could call it. You know, nothing really interesting happened until about 2000, I don't know, 2013 or 14. I'm laying in bed and, oh, maybe I looked at my clock and it was maybe 12, 31. 1 a.m. And I specifically remember hearing a knock on my window. I was like, the heck, that's that's super weird. What's going on? And so I get up and I open the curtain and I remember

a clear as day and arm grabbing me. So I like pull back and I open my eyes. I'm wide awake. I'm like, oh, what was that? It was really weird. So I blinked. And right in front of me, there's this, it's almost like a clear image of like a gaunt, eyeless, featureless face looking right at me. And I'm laying there wide-eyed, like, what is, what is this? This is insane. And I like, I blink again.

and it like open its mouth like super wide and lunges for me I kick like I'm like I'm trying to ward off a bear and that finally snaps me out I open my eyes again it's not there

and I lay there for a good 45 seconds not blinking because I was terrified of blinking again and seeing this you know this figure it's that's one thing that you know I know I know ever want to experience again. And something that, you know, really, really bothers me to be perfectly honest with you.

I believe that I saw that. Each and every Christmas, I'll, you know, that's the time of a year when, you know, the spirit of the seasons in me. And that's the time when I, you know, when I pray to myself. And no word of a lie. I'll be sitting on my deck and I'll talk to my late mother and late father. And I'll just ask, you know, tell me that you're here, show me that you're here, that you're, you know, that we were with me.

And more often or not, sure enough, I'll see a shooting star. That's, it really made me believe that there's, you know, there's something else beyond this life. another thing that happened, I was out in the back of our apartment building. And this is like December of last year. So about six or seven months ago. And I'm standing there with my dog, you know, just letting you do your business. And right next to our back door, there's like a, like a, like a, like a, laundry exhaust where it shoots out steam

and I just I just closed my eyes and I was like if there's something out there if there's something more than this world you know show me a sign show me a sign and that steam it all of a sudden shot out super fast

went about three or four feet high and then dissipated I was like, whoa, that's definitely, that's definitely a sign. There's something way more, way more to do with life than the physical world. And then just really, I'm pretty sure that, you know, we have not a ghost. Well, yeah, I guess you call it a ghost where we've heard things. me and my wife, and it's terrified us where we're like, well, we, you know, what's, what is going on? You know, we lived for, you know, 12 years together and all of a sudden this is happening,

where I'll be laying in bed, and it sounds like laughing in our hallway. We don't have children. All we have is a puppy, and that's where it stops and gives us pause, like, whoa, what's, what's going on. My wife's seeing shadows. She was in the kitchen one day, and the way our apartment is laid out, our kitchen has a window into our dining area. While she was at the stove, she turns around, sees a shape, does a double take, and it's

gone. She can't explain it. Another time, she was just in our bedroom. and I think she was playing like a, I don't know, like one of those idle games. And she, again, sees out of the corner of her eye a dark shape. It almost set the height of a child where it like peered around and disappeared. And after that happened, she's like, yeah, no, I'm just going to keep playing my video game here. And just leave that alone until I get home.

back to back to my reference where I said have you seen the show Sliders or I'm sorry Sliders it's it's almost like

is part of a multiverse or the universe is part of the multiverse and when it comes to you know cryptid sightings it's very possible that we're seeing shadows of those creatures in our own reality. That's something that I truly believe is going on in the world.

It's a little unsettling, especially when you consider that we're trying to, scientists are trying to figure out if there's multiple universes. around us, it's just definitely something that gives me pause and makes you wonder what are, what are we doing with our reality? With these experiences that you've had in your life and stuff, do you think that they tie back to when you're a child? Because, I mean, not everybody has these kind of experiences. I mean, for instance, I haven't had a ton of experiences in my life that I could say are

paranormal. but there are some people that seem to have these kind of experiences a lot. And do you think that you were, I don't know, marked paranormal-wise when you were a kid in the bassinet next to your mom's bed? You know what? It's possible. The way, you know, growing up through life, I, you know, never really thought about like that.

Like things, you know, just weird things happen, you know, all like the, like the, like the Mario occurred into that, like that happened and it just, you know, it didn't really strike me as odd, but a couple years down the road, now it's like, whoa, you know, I remember this, something's not right here. This is, you know, this isn't how, you know, this isn't how I remember playing that game. I don't think that I'm haunted like that, but it's, it's interesting to, to know that many people around the world, you know, experience odd things, almost on a, you know, daily or weekly basis. I just think that my experiences, although, you know, few and far between, you know, it's, it tells me that, you know, the universe or, you know, or God or whatever's out there is, you know,

it's showing that the world isn't 100% as it seems and you know, I really hope there's not dark forces at work but at the same time there's you know, there's too much evil in the world to really discount that. There's

you know, stupid people all the way who take their rage out on the public and you know, people who, you know, take their rage out on, or their, you know, the sickness out on children. And it's like, who would, you know, who would do that with, you know, being in the, you know, a modern world? It, it, it boggles my mind. Yeah. I mean, the world is definitely stranger than, than one would like to believe. And there are a lot of things that are going on that if you were to be shown it and said, this is for real. Uh, I think.

that you'd have a lot of people going nuts because it's just so far off the path of fathomability. And so, yeah, I think that there's going to come a time where many people are going to be exposed to the truth of the situation at hand. And I'm talking on many, many, many, many different levels and topics. And when that happens, I hope that most people are able to handle it, but I don't think that everybody is going to be able to handle it properly. So, you know, who knows? But why don't you talk to us a little bit about your theory on the deep state of misinformation

revolving around certain current events? Okay, so this actually happened perfectly this morning at I vote nine or so. I got a Google notification. Jeffrey Epstein, today, August 10th, committed suicide in his cell. and literally an hour ago, I checked Yahoo News and it's like, you know, he committed suicide in itself and how many billionaires have, you know, just let out a huge side of relief. Like, you know, how is this even possible? This is something from a, you know, it's almost something from the movie, really.

I don't want to think that vast majority of the world is controlled by a handful people but unfortunately that's the

reality I think that she was doing something super dark super sick and she was doing it with a lot of powerful people and instead of

you know letting this happen everybody's like look you have to you have to off yourself or we're going to do it for you. And that's just something that I believe is the truth. He was sick and he was doing it with a lot of very wealthy equally six, you know, billionaires. And that's just the state of it.

This whole, another thing, this whole storm area 51, I believe we had the originator on a couple weeks ago or so. I believe he started it, you know, like he said, where it was just a joke, but the world's looking at this, or maybe even the government's looking at this, like, oh, this is perfect. you know, we can, you know, we can use this. We can, we can manipulate the people with this and create this huge, you know, this huge media storm about it. And who knows, maybe they're even like, oh, this ain't good, you know, we need to do something about it. We need to want the news with something else. So shootings happen and they're tragic. I'm from Canada so we don't have the same, you know, freedom for buying firearms.

I don't think it will ever change with the way that, you know, the U.S. was founded. You know, it's something of a, you know, it's a point of pride and it's a point of, you know, self-defense. But really when someone who's, you know, has those radical ideologies, you know, just take out his frustration and try and, you know, unfortunately, leave a mark on society that just keeps going and keeps going. That's something that could very well be tied into the disclosure movement and Tom DeLam, I believe, is, I think it's like to the Stars Academy. Well, that's probably not, but that's something that's something that's.

could also be tied into it, where they're trying to minimize the effect of these other things that are happening, you know, minimizing the storm area 51 or minimizing shootings, you know, happen almost on a monthly basis. It's, who knows, right? They could even be hiding the fact that the Earth is flat. I don't believe it, but it's possible. It's definitely possible with how not constant reality field sometimes, where it's like the Earth is on a shirt on a, you know, like it is a globe.

I could see how people would think that and, you know, create this thread on the internet and all of a sudden, you know, millions of people believe it. The world is a weird place, and human beings are, you know, they're the weirdest among us, right? Yeah. Definitely weird. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not a flat-earther, and my problem with these flat-earthers are is that they're so radical about their thoughts on it. They believe it's fact, and they speak on it as it's factual.

and when asked about it, questioned, they get all up in arms and frustrated about it. And it's like, you're making radical claims. You have to expect to be questioned on it. And don't just be like, well, do the research and you'll find the truth. No, why don't you present the research

that you supposedly did and show me, convince me why the earth is flat? I've talked to pilots who will tell me that they do have to adjust for the curvature of the Earth. I've talked to people who are in the Navy who say that the exact opposite of what Flat Earthers say. But yeah, so you covered a lot of stuff there. And I would just say that the Jeffrey Epstein thing, did you not expect this to happen? I mean, we... Honestly, I was waiting for it.

Yeah, we knew this was going to happen. And here's the thing that I would say is either Epstein was killed or Epstein might be alive still. And I do think that that could be a possibility. I'm not the guy that says Tupac's still alive and Elv is still breathing and Hitler's still alive in the hollow or somewhere. I'm not that guy. But I would say that in a very real situation like this, you have somebody who was doing horrific things, more than likely doing it with a lot of, elite people in this world who have a lot of power. And more than likely, there definitely could have been a situation where Epstein was contacted, talked to, and basically it was told either we kill you or we pretend to kill you and we send you off to your little island and you live happily ever after

there or somewhere. But you speaking cannot happen. And so their options were limited. I don't think Epstein was suicidal. And here's my thing for that. Epstein's been through this process before. Epstein was called on the carpet for these things before and he escaped it because of the powerful people that he's associated with. He was able to get out basically not, I wouldn't say clean on it, but he managed through it. He didn't kill himself when it first happened. And so if something like this is happening in your life and you're going to have the highest risk of suicide, it would be the very first time you're going through it and you have no idea what's going to happen and you're scared of death and you're going to kill yourself before, you know, anything happens further.

He didn't kill himself the first time around. He survived. He went through the process and survived it. So the second time around, I don't think he was suicidal. He's been through the process before. And I think that he was talked to and either he was killed or he is still breathing. And I'm not saying that he is or isn't. I'm just saying, I do think out of all these. ideas of people saying, oh, so and so still alive, I do think that this is something that is very possible in this situation because it wasn't like he was just nobody that was caught, was caught doing something, or it wasn't like he was a musician that, you know, was a very popular celebrity, but didn't have a ton of people in high places to help him. He was somebody who was

very wealthy, unlimited access to wealthy, very powerful people who can make things happen. And so I think it is possible that he could be still breathing somewhere on this earth. But nevertheless, he was a scumbag. And the people who were doing the things with him were scumbags. And that's that. Talk to me. Talk to me a little bit here about hollow earth and hollow moon. It's not something new to me.

Heard of both. What's your take on it? Okay. So I just like to go through a time machine here all the way back to. 1908. This is what I think. Have you heard of the Tunguska event? Yeah. Okay. So there's a theory from these two, I believe they're Jackson and Ryan.

It's called the Jackson and Ryan hypothesis. I believe they're just researchers. But they say that the Tunguco event could possibly have happened by a macro microscopic black hole where it's, you know, billions of tons less massive than the supermass of black holes at the center of galaxies.

I don't know if that's for real, but it's possible that thing did enter our planet. That's responsible for

these times or these alternate reality is happening. So if that happened, now all of a sudden there are theories of, not necessarily that the Black Hole caused it,

but now all of a sudden there are people like, you know, the originators of that back in, I believe it's like the 19th century or the 18th century where they say, oh yeah, we've, you know, we've seen this.

or in World War II when the when the U.S. Oh, yes, yes, Adamal Bird. I should have done my research. But yeah, where he you know, where he has this

encounter with this other, you know, this other past the ice shawl. And it also goes back to like where, you know, the flat earth where, oh yeah, it's flat. But then the whole world, has almost the similar properties where

you know how much of what they tell us is actually true like sure scientists say that you know there you know the earth isn't you know there's magma and the crust and

you know a million other things where it's just possible I have just enough doubt to think that oh yeah there's an entire different ecosystem under that you know under what we think is just solid mass who knows maybe maybe it is maybe i'm wrong well i'm right i think that hollow earth is something that you know is hasn't been proved and you know with the different conspiracy theories going on about it and stuff uh definitely hasn't been proved but i think it is

something to think about and it wouldn't shock me if it was something that was real. We haven't drilled very far into the earth's crust. I think the furthest we've gotten,

I think it was Russia that got eight miles into the earth's crust. The earth, I can't remember the actual dimensions of its diameter, but the circumference

of the earth, I think it's like 43,000 miles, the circumference. And so, I mean, I'm not the greatest of math, but if you were to do the math,

the diameter of the earth, it's much, much, much more than eight miles. And so to say that we know what's going on inside the earth is there's scientific reasoning behind it. But until we actually get there and we are able to get further into the earth, we really don't know exactly what's going on there. And it breathes life into these ideas of the earth being hollow, subterranean societies, nephilum hiding in the earth, extraterrestrials having bases inside the earth coming up out through the oceans. It leads to all these people and all these ideas of possibilities. And I'm not here to say that it's not possible because one, I don't know, but two, I do lean more towards the earth being hollow than flat. So that's a

We're on that with it. Yeah, to be honest with you, I'm in the same boat. I think that it's definitely possible to the Earth is flat. Or, sorry, hollow. It's definitely possible. The moon is hollow. You know, there's really only, you know, a small amount of human beings who, you know, really, you know, put forth the, you know, the effort to study these things scientifically.

And, you know, who knows? Maybe, maybe it is hollow. Maybe they're both hollow. Maybe the moon is actually a giant spaceship from the beginning of existence. No one really knows it's scientific, but it's also hearsay, for lack of a better term. Well, I mean, the earth being, the earth being hollow would be a very trippy thing in itself. And to think that it was placed there is, that's a head scratcher. I've heard that before and stuff.

And, you know, I'm open to hearing all thoughts and opinions on things. I think that, you know, as much as I rattle in the cages of flat earthers, you know, at one time I did, you know, look into it seriously just to consider. what they were saying. Just like I said, the biggest turnoff for me was the idea of talking to somebody who believes this. And when questioned the attitude that you get by these people, and I've gotten it over and over again off. I have never done a flat earth show, but I've talked to people and I've talked to them through email. And it's just a common theme. They're very hyper aggressive if you don't believe them. And it's just like, that's a big turnoff for me. And so,

But anyways, listen, before we get rolling here, I want you to kind of go into this idea of Bigfoot that you mentioned to me. It being an interdimensional race. I want to hear where you go with this before I comment on it. Yes. Okay. So, have you ever seen the movie Jumper? I have a little bit, but I don't remember much of it. Okay.

There's that. And then there's this other Netflix show that has a simple. of properties where it's basically instant transport, right? I'm thinking these Sasquatch, they're dimension jumpers, man. They have that ability to instantly teleport back to their own dimension or two or, you know, many different planes of existence and instantaneous. I honestly think that you know

they exist and that's what that's what they do that's how they have a discovery that's why you know you never see a body

there's a there's this whole whole picture of forget exactly you know who the you know who posted initially but like in the 1920s or so

it's It's real old and it shows a group of hunters with what looks like a Sasquatch or Yeti killed, obviously, on display with them. It's, that looks really real. Like, it's got to be real with the, with the immense size of the universe, there's more planes of existence, more. things that we will, you know, never know or never understand that are out there. And that's, it's really just a, honestly, a fact of the, of the time that we live. Yeah. Well, I think that Sasquatch can definitely be something more than just a physical creature. There are videos out there of, you know, and I've seen different videos of people saying that Sasquatch is cloaking right there in front of them,

kind of like the alien versus predator kind of thing. And the one that really sticks out to me is, oh, shoot, I forget the lady's name, but Claudia Ackley was there. And she, they basically what they saw was this video or this Sasquatch was in front of them. They got it on film. And when they got back to camp,

the film that, what they filmed wasn't, wasn't on video. And so what they saw was, this black figure. And the, I think it was the one lady, only one lady saw it. But what she saw was this black figure. But right where she said this figure was, it was like nothing was there. But you saw something moving, but it was like something was cloaked in the video. And so, I mean, when you see things like that, it's definitely, it makes you a question what these things are. But, you know,

again, there's a lot of examples of these things, you know, purge displaying very realistic characteristics of a wild animal in the woods, hunting deer, living in the woods, you know, the idea of a sentinel where they're sleeping, you know, there's a family group sleeping and there's one kind of standing guard and there's people talking about those things. I mean, that's all stuff that would say that these things live here. They don't travel interdimensionally and they're very physical just animals out there in the woods. But then like I said, there are a lot of things that people claim they have experience where it doesn't make sense if these are just creatures in the woods like following the tracks of

these things out in the woods and all of a sudden the tracks just disappear. Like, you know, one of the best examples is there was this set of snow tracks going out into a field. And, out in the middle of the field, in the snow tracks, these tracks just disappear. So whether it was a misidentification of it wasn't a bigfoot track or anything like that is irrelevant because where did whatever made these tracks go? It just gone. And so, I mean, the only possible explanation I could have with something like that is sometimes people say that a rabbit jumping through snow looks like bigfoot tracks. And maybe it was a rabbit. going through the snow out in the middle of a field and a hawk came down and picked it up.

You know what I mean? That's a possibility. But I definitely think it's a possibility that these things could be interdimensional as well. Oh, absolutely. And it's really a trippy thought, if you think about it. You know, like when, you know, when it comes to that, how much do we really know about nature? you know what I mean and how many

vastness of of the universe at large how much do we really know we don't like we live on on a single planet civilization is still in the infant stage

in the vast timeline of the universe I think it was into the wormhole by like, I think there's like Neil deGrasse Tyson, something like that, where if you place the history of, from the beginning of to now, human civilization has only started on like the last minute of December 31st. And, you know, for science to say, oh, well, you know, the

sciences and this is what's going on. You know, this is how the world works. A lot of wiggle room, I believe. And there's going to be a lot more that we're going to find out where it's like, oh, really, that's real. Okay, well, you know, kind of rewrite the history books. You know, just a variety of other things. Obviously, too numerous dimension at this time.

Yeah. Well, Josh, I'll tell you what, man. I appreciate you coming on and sharing some of these stories and different ideas and thoughts that you have on these different topics and stuff. It's always fun to just kind of sit around and talk about these things and just theorize about stuff. And if you can have a good time doing it, it's worth doing. So I appreciate you doing that, man. Oh, and I, you know, I appreciate you giving me the time to talk about. This is a huge pleasure.

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