The Confessionals - RELOADED | 28: Haunted Hotel

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Episode 28 features Riley sharing some of his strange encounters: a blue orb that appeared during Hurricane Sandy, and the apparition of a little girl that he encountered while investigating a haunted hotel with Joe Chin from “Ghost Hunters International” and Brian J. Cano from “Scared”!Exclusive 'The Sasqualogist' Screening Tickets: Get Tickets Here!Sasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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up. Riley comes on to share a UFO encounter and also a paranormal encounter. It's going to be a good show tonight, so sit back, relax, and enjoy the interview with Riley. Okay, tonight I have a great guest coming on, Riley. Riley, you contacted me a little bit back and you shared with me that you were, you know, just graduate. I think you said you were just graduating high school and you were joining the Navy. Riley, how are you doing tonight? I'm, Tony. How are you? I'm doing good, man. I wanted to, first I'll say thank you for your courage to join the military and serve the country. We were talking about that a little bit before the show. And I just wanted to let you know, man. Thank you very much for the sacrifice that you're entering into for the country. And

And, you know, you got a bright future doing what you're about to start doing. So congratulations on that, man. So you just graduated high school, right, this year, if I believe? I'm going into my senior year, actually. Okay, got you. You're going into your senior year. I misheard you. Now, you shared with me that you have two different stories you'd like to hit on tonight.

The first one is a UFO story. The second one is a ghost story. How old were you when the UFO story kicks off? I was in sixth grade, so probably 12 or so. Gotcha. All right, well, walk us into what happened with that. All right, so as you said earlier, the military is a big part of my life, and it has been since I was a very young kid.

My father's a former Navy pilot, so I was kind of brought up in the military aspect. So when I turned 11 or so, I started really getting into airsoft, which was like, they're just little guns that chew plastic BBs and I don't know how it's just fun to mess around and your friends, I guess. But I live on an island off the coast of Massachusetts. And there's a lot of farms on the island are not populated after the summer. So in the fall, when all the tourists start to leave, people who rent houses on that farm, If you have any connection to the farm, you can just run around and play with your friends. So me and maybe five of us were running around playing Airsoft on a farm on the southern end of the island right during Superstorm Sandy, if you remember that. And then we were running around in this big field probably at like 9.30 at night.

the storm was like starting to get kind of bad and I was coming out of the woods with my team you know me and two other guys and we see over this field like a blue orb um and we're not nobody's really sure it is we all saw it and I just talked to the people the other day and said yeah we we all saw this thing it wasn't just you so everybody still remembers it was like a almost like a blue Christmas light ball but much brighter. And it was probably 50 yards away from us and maybe

seven feet off the ground. So it was all things considered pretty close and it was probably baseball sized about at that distance, so it was pretty big. And we looked at it for a while and it kind of seemed like it might be looking back at us, but I can't

like confirm that. because it was just a big glowing ball, so I couldn't really say what it was doing. And then in our cocky, super young teenage boy ideas, we were just, well, let's shoot at it and see if we can make it react. So we shot it with the airsoft guns, and it, like, just disappeared real quick. Like, as soon as the noise from the BB guns went off,

just, poof, gone. I don't know if it, I don't remember if it, like, zipped away or if it just disappeared, I think it just disappeared into pretty much thin air. And we ran over there and we couldn't find anything. No remnants. There was nobody on the property but us and the person who owned it, who was one of our moms. And so there was nobody with a flashlight. There was nobody anywhere.

There were enough footprints and it had been rainy. We would have seen footprints in the mud. So no idea what happened. What it was, where it came from, where it went. And to this day, it still freaks me out a little bit because I still have no idea what it was. I think it was some form, I guess I would classify it as a UFO because it was flying and it was unknown and it was an object. So it fits all the requirements, but I can't tell you what it was exactly. I wish I knew.

We all wish we knew. but we haven't seen it since. I haven't been back there really too much since. I haven't wanted to go back to that field. But I don't know. That's about it for that. Okay. For one, you haven't been back to the area because of this incident?

A lot of it's because of that incident. But also, you know, when we got to high school, that friend group kind of split up because we started going to different schools and stuff like that. so we just haven't really been back there too much, but there's been times where I've been invited to come back, and I've just avoided it because I didn't want to go back to that place. Yeah, gotcha. With this orb, was there, was there light that was, like, illuminating, like, projecting itself out? Was it, or was it just, like, this blue orb? Do you know what I mean?

Like, was it, like, a light bulb, or was it, like, shining out light? It was, I guess it was kind of like a light bulb. because it didn't really illuminate anything in the area. Actually, you know what? The best way I can describe it is, like, I don't know if you have any Star Wars fans, but if you've seen like a blue lightsaber, it looked like a big circle of like a lightsaber blade.

So it was kind of like, I don't know, it didn't make any noise, but it just looked like it was a circular, blowing kind of ball, I guess, sphere. do you remember what time of day this was was it you know I know you said I think it was like in the evening or something but what as far as like daylight goes was it dark out or was it still daylight I know the storm was going on but can you describe like what the environment was when it comes to that yeah we were

it was I think 930 at night so in in Massachusetts in late September it's that's pretty dark. So it was well into the night. Like it wasn't light out at all really except for, you know, a few lights from the house off in the distance. But we didn't see anything except for what we pointed our flashlights at and the water because it was right on a river. But we, there was no light from anywhere.

It was pitch black and we just, we didn't see it from the tree line, which is another thing. because we were in the middle of the woods, and we didn't see it until we had completely, you know, gotten into the field. And it wasn't giving off any light. We didn't, nothing that it could have reflected. It wasn't a reflective surface because there was no other light that it could have reflected, so we don't really know what it was. Okay.

Now, you described it earlier as something that you thought it was aware of you guys. So, I mean, I guess to you it seemed fairly intelligent or how would you describe that feeling? Because it gives you a feeling of, you know, it knows that you're there. What made you feel it like that? I don't know. I think it's like, I don't know how I think you go in the woods often because of the Pennsylvania South Dakota research, I'm sure. But if you've ever, you know, come across like a deer or something or any sort of. of wildlife and you can see that it's looking at you, but it doesn't move, and you're looking

at it, and you know that you're, that you're both aware of each other's presence, and it doesn't react, neither one of you react until the other one does. It was kind of that, like, that kind of feeling. So, like, I felt like it was aware of me, and I felt like it knew that I was aware of it. So we were just kind of at a stalemate. In my opinion, I could be completely wrong, because it was just, you know, a light. But in my opinion, I think that we were just at, you know, kind of a Mexican standoff. We both didn't know what to do with the other person or other entity. And we both knew that the other one knew we were there. So it didn't do anything in particular to make me feel like it was watching me. It didn't move really until we shot at it. And then,

but, you know, if you ever come across like a round. it and it just doesn't move, but you know that it's looking at you. It was that kind of feeling. Okay. That makes sense. You know, so it's 9.30 at night. It's dark out. I mean, I'm on the East Coast, too. I mean, I know what you're talking about. It's dark out. So seeing this blue orb in the field, it's not like you're in the middle of a storm and there could be debris flying around that you see and you thought, oh, that looks like an orb or something like that, but it really was and it was trash or something. That's not an option here because it was dark out and you see this light in the middle of field. Now, you said it was, I believe you said it was about seven feet off the ground,

if I remember correctly. Was it like moving at all or was just like hovering in one spot? It was hovering in one spot. But funny you mentioned that because now I'm thinking back, it's a little fuzzy because I don't have a great memory, but I think that I remember it, you know, kind of pulsing, like the light was getting just faintly brighter and then duller repeatedly, like very slowly, enough that like thinking back on it, I think it was noticeable, but no real just movement. It looked like it was perfectly still, perfectly still. It's funny to say that. I don't know if I've shared this on the show before, but if I have have. Sorry, you'll hear it again. I was in the woods once with three other guys. We were at

the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, and I saw a light in the woods, and this light was just inside the canopy of the trees, and like you said, it was pulsating. It would pulsate in, then go out, go in, go out. But when it would go in, it would never talk. It would, totally go out, like where you couldn't see. You could always see it was there. It's just like getting brighter and dimmer, brighter and dimmer, and all of a sudden just kind of pulsated dimmer again, but it then just was gone. It just, like, the light just wholly dimmed out and it was gone. Is that kind of like what you would describe it as for you, like kind of like dimming up and down with the light? Yeah, yeah, I would say it was, you know, kind of dimming and then getting a little

bit brighter and then dimming again. When it went away, though, it was like light switch, just off. It was gone. that's really interesting. I find this orb phenomenon really fascinating. I mean, one, because I don't know if it was an orb or not. I mean, it was pretty far from us, even though we saw the light and stuff, it was pretty far from us. So I don't know, like, I can't say it was a ball or the size of softball or anything like that. It was just, for me, it was a light inside the forest that was pulsating. So I find this very interesting. And especially since you said that you saw this during the storm. Now, have you ever heard of anybody else saying they saw something like this during a storm in your area? I've heard of people experiencing similar things in storms before. In my area, there is one other person who claimed that they saw this, I think, the same night in their garden out their kitchen window. I have no, she, I found out that she did this at the, that the ghost encounter at the hotel, because we were there together. And she told me that she had seen it that night, which was,

you know, a funny coincidence. But other than that, I haven't heard of anybody in my area, aside from the three people who are, two people who are with me, who've seen it at all now. I'm not sure if that's a coincidence. So now, let me ask you, this lady that told you that, Do you know how far she lives from where you saw it? Not far. Like I said, I live on an island. So the island is a grand total of, you know, 20 miles north and about five miles, you know, top to bottom. And she was maybe two or three miles from the farm.

So, I mean, not far at all, really. Okay. And she described it as a blue orb as well? Yeah, she's like, because I had, I mentioned it while I was there, I had mentioned, you know, this is pretty much the only paranormal experience I've had in the past. And she's like, exactly what you're describing happened to me of that exact same night. And I'm like, wow. Okay. But, yeah, she didn't go into too detail about what she saw. She just said that she agreed and had seen exactly what I was describing. Gotcha. Yeah, it makes me wonder. I mean, there's so many different theories you can draw up from this. I mean, you could say that, you know, somebody could say this, these orbs had something to do with the storm. You could say that the orb that you saw is the same one as she saw or they were different. And if they were different, why were they out at the same time during a storm seen by two different people? Even if it was the same, you could say that. There's just so many different things that I find peculiar with this storm. Yeah, it was a, it was a weird storm. There were reports along the whole East Coast of weird stuff happening during it.

Yeah, you know, and I remember that. I remember the storm. Clearly, I remember the storm. And I don't remember hearing about weird paranormal stuff happening, but I should look into that. Hey, man, looking in New York. New York had some fun stuff happen then. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, because I don't know. It just makes me, it just makes me wonder, where can I draw this line? I mean, I feel like there's, I'm getting dots here and I need to connect the dots somehow. But when you told me that you saw this orb during Hurricane Sandy, that kind of made my ears perk up. I'm thinking, okay, is there something that relates one to the other? Because I say that because there's different things, different things that I've heard or seen.

For instance, there's a guy that I'm trying to get on the show, and I'll give you a little teaser with this. He has captured on video a UFO coming out of the water in a bay where he lives. And I've seen the video and I've seen the photos. It happens incredibly fast, but it's definitely something coming out of the water. And there was a storm coming into the bay. and that's how he caught it because he was taking video of the storm with the lightning. And when he reviewed it, he saw, you know, this UFO coming out of the water. So it just makes me wonder if there's something with storms and UFOs or orbs or something like that.

I just find it curious, you know? Yeah, I agree. I've always wanted to, it's funny, you mentioned the flying out of the water thing. Because I live on an island, like I keep saying. I'm very interested in the USO theory, the unidentified submerged objects, those things mess with my head. But, I mean, I have an abundance of water around me. So it'd be fun to go looking for it. Well, what do you think about that?

I mean, you said it yourself, unidentified, submerged objects. What do you think? I mean, have you ever heard of any stories like that around where you live? obviously you've heard of it. So what are your thoughts on that kind of idea? On the idea itself, I don't know. I really don't know. I think that in order for there to be an underwater submerged object,

then there must be, you know, or unidentified, I apologize. There must also be unidentified flying objects because they have to either be made on the planet to get into the ocean or come from, you know, another dimension or another galaxy or planet or anything like that. So somehow they have to get to where they are. So whatever it is, I don't think that it's human. I don't think that it's human at all. But what exactly it is and where it comes from, I really couldn't tell you. Yeah. I have my own theories, obviously. That's all I do is think about this stuff. But, you know, here's one thing. There are a ton of UFO sightings.

Just to say UFO, you know, and let's just group everything into that. The ones that we see coming out of water, one's going into the ground, ones in the sky, whatever, just everything that we see. There's tons of them, absolutely tons of them. And I have a hard time thinking that they all came from another galaxy and are here operating. It makes me wonder, like these are physical objects as far as we can tell. I mean, we know that, you know, area 51 happened. We know that there's been crashes.

These are physical objects. These physical objects have to be constructed. They have to be built. And there has to be beings, entities, whatever you want to call them, that build these things. Where? Where are they being built? Where are these beings gathering to do these things? I mean, what if, just to say, just straight out of Hollywood.

would. What if a UFO, you know, has mechanical problems and it crashes like Area 51? Well, what if it didn't crash? What if they were able to, you know, preserve their, the UFO, landed, knowing there's mechanical issues. How do they fix it? You know, like, I don't know. Like, it just makes me wonder, like, is there any kind of like alien base where they're, they're actually actively repairing and building these things? Whether they're here from here or not, I still feel like there's got to be something here on earth that they're able to gather at and maybe, I don't know, like, are they here for some kind of fuel source? I don't know. Does that make sense at all? Oh, 100%. I agree completely. There's probably maybe even more than one kind of

like outposts where they could be organizing to repair stuff or build things, anything, as to, you know, why they're here. I like to think they're not here. to take any sort of fuel or create any sort of, you know, friction with the inhabitants that we know of, at least. I won't say that they're extra-driven just yet. But we're looking right now, at least if we haven't found them already, but we're looking out in space, looking for life and other solar systems, other planets, everything like that. I mean, I hope that, you know, if we ever do make contact, it's with the, you know, scientists who are looking for the exact same thing just from another place instead of, you know, a threat. Because if they have the technology to get here, they probably have the technology to cause some problems. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I think us as a human race have, quote unquote, found them. I mean, I'm sorry. There's no way that you and I are sitting here talking about. about these things because of what you've seen or what other people have experienced, yet the government's ignorant to it. I'm sorry. I mean, we know, we've heard of, you know, MJ12 and all these different operations within the government for these particular things. We know that we know that they know, you know, and it, the evidence is there. I mean, we, thousands upon thousands of pictures and videos of UFOs. I mean, we know that they're here.

you know, it's just where are they from? I mean, you know, the answer, the really, for me, I think we'll get the answer one way or another one day. I don't know where that answer is going to come from yet, but I think one day we're going to get an answer to that question. Probably, I think within our lifetime, I really do believe that. Because, I mean, people, I hope I don't offend people by saying this, but people, people, People are stupid, but they're not that stupid, you know? Like, really. I mean, come on.

You could keep us in the dark before we had internet. But now you gave us internet. Like, I mean, it's so easy for people to compare notes and exchange information. You can't keep the lid on this forever. Eventually, it's got to pop off. So that's my thoughts. But you said earlier that you also had a paranormal, ghostly experience. And I'm interested to hear about this because of some of the people you were with

that night. You want to go into that? Yeah, absolutely. So maybe I know that it was about, it was the same year for sure. And I'd say it was probably a month later, because I think it was around Halloween. um i my mother and i have always been you know very very big believers for the most part my mother more than me around this time but um we're all very into you know the paranormal and stuff like that we'd watch horror movies together and you know like if we were ever hanging out like that or for mother's day we'd like watch a scary movie or something so when you know it was coming up on Halloween Two people from, you know, some of the big ghost hunting TV shows said that they were coming to the island. They weren't filming or anything like that. They were just coming to the islands. And anybody who wanted to come investigate with them was welcome to.

You had to, you know, put your name in and pay a fee. But it just for the, because to pay for the hotel rooms that they were investigating in. So in total, I think there's me, my mother, and maybe. 20 other people from the whole island who showed up. And so for those who want to know, the two people were Joe Chin from Ghost Thunder's International and Brian J. Kano from the Scared Show. And they brought a medium with them. Her name was Tiffany.

She was very nice. And so we split up into two groups. One group of about 11 people went with Joe and the other group of 11 people went with Brian. I was with Brian. So we went to this hotel. I'll leave it unnamed in case anybody from the island is listening and don't want to, you know, take commerce away. But we went to, there's two buildings.

One was, you know, like extra rooms in case the hotel was overbooked or something. And then there was the main building, which had, we had rented two rooms that were conjoined on, I think a third floor in the main building, and then the entire, you know, extra room building was just completely empty, so we had access to all of it. So I went with Brian into the extra building first, and Joe and his people went into the main building,

and we spent an hour in each building, and then we switched. But while we were in extra room building, we set up this piece of equipment. I don't exactly know what it's called, but basically it creates a like electromagnetic field, like a big bubble force field around it. So if anything that could affect the electromagnetic frequency

or field, like came through it, it would start beeping really loudly. If anything went through it, it would start beeping really loudly. So I set it up in the corner. And after a few little bugs where I accidentally turned on the shadow detector and then moved around and set an awful bunch, we got it set up. And we spent about an hour in there doing an EVP electrical voice phenomena. So we just had a voice recorder and you're asking questions because the electronics will pick up something that the human ear might not.

So we would record, ask questions, listen back for any sort of answers. answer. And in the end, we didn't really end up with anything on the EVP. The electromagnetic field beeped maybe twice, but, you know, nothing earth-shattering. I mean, creepy enough, but nothing really groundbreaking. We checked out the rest of the building with little handheld EMF readers, got maybe one tiny little blip. So nothing was really happening there. And then we switched for the other group. And we weren't allowed to talk to the other group, so we couldn't, like, mix up our stories or anything like that. So we could, when we, you know, debriefed at the end, we wouldn't, you know, have

tainted information. So we swapped on other sides of the building and we go up to the, the, uh, two conjoined rooms. I don't remember the numbers. They're somewhere out there. I can get them. But, um, we go into one and then two people, some professional investigators who were not from TV shows, but some professional investigators go.

into the next room. And there are some guys. They're team, you know, former army guys, six, four, 270 pounds of the muscle. Not people that you'd like expect to be scared. And that'll come into play later. But Brian says, you know, we're going lights out. So whenever you're doing something, you have to turn the lights out.

I'm not entirely sure why, but we do it. And we sit on this kind, there's two coaches and they make like an L. and in front of the couches are, is a coffee table. So on the coffee table, we put a K2 EMF meter, which basically has a row of lights up at the top, like six lights, tiny little bulbs. And depending on the reading, you know, progressively more lights will light up from the left.

So we start asking questions and say, like, come closer to the EMF meter, this device for yes and stay back for no. And immediately we started getting responses. And, you know, some of the questions we asked were, like, are you male or are you a male? Are you a female, et cetera? You know, are you a child? Are you under 10? Are you over 10?

Are you over 20? You know, things of that nature to kind of, you know, get a sense of what we were dealing with. And eventually, after probably 15 minutes of playing with this thing, we had determined that it was a little girl, like maybe seven, eight. And she was coming from one of the bathrooms. We didn't really know which bathroom because there was two, because it was a conjoined room. So we had two bathrooms. One was big, one was small, and we couldn't figure out which of the two bathrooms it was tied to.

so I went into the next room because I was you know not to sound you know bad but I was getting kind of bored which is not the best thing to do in a you know ghost hunt but I was getting bored with the EMF meter so I went into the next room with the two army guys I don't remember their names but they were just sitting in like the you know the traditional hotel comfy chairs and looking at the best of bathroom and they had not been present in the other room. They might have overheard us, but they really weren't paying attention. They had been, you know, smoking cigarettes and, you know, swapping war stories or something, I guess. But they were looking at the bathroom when I walked in and I said, you know, hey guys, like, what's going on? He's like, uh, nothing. We're just like, we're getting like a bad vibe from that bathroom. And I'm like, oh, well, damn, dang. That's like, that's a bathroom and we had determined in the other room that, you know, there's something. tied to one of these bathrooms.

So I asked them, like, have you gotten any, like, readings on your technology? And they're like, well, we've been sitting here with a spirit box, which is a really interesting piece of equipment that cycles through FM and AM radio signals, radio frequencies, at, like, a really high rate of speed. So, like, somehow a spirit's supposed to be able to manipulate the sounds from those frequencies. to form words and I've seen it work I've seen it work a lot of times I fully believe that it is an effective tool but we they had been using that trying to get readings from the bathroom and apparently they've gotten both of their names and go they got like the word go from

the bathroom so they were you know understandably freaked out and I I kept talking with them about it, and I decided to go into the bathroom. So I don't know why I chose to do this, but they had said they were, you know, kind of creeped out from the bathroom. And I guess trying to show off, be like, yeah, I'm brave. I tried to, like, walk into the bathroom. So I did, hesitantly. And initially, I was very creeped out. It was much darker than the rest of the rooms.

I just attributed that to the fact that there wasn't any lights on. But I went in there and looked in the mirror and like almost instantly all my fear went away. I was like, I know, this isn't so bad. It's just a dark bathroom. And then, you know, I'm like looking closer in the mirror because I thought I might have seen something, but I kept, you know, brushing it off. Like, no way this is actually happening. This is just, you know, my mind playing tricks. I'm in the dark.

and then I looked at the shower, which was behind me, the curtain was closed, and I could swear that something tugged at it. And I was like, no, I noped out of there real quick and went back into the other room and told Brian, I was like, after that one right there. And he went over there with his DMF meter, and, you know, we started getting readings from that too. So we were like, okay, so now we know which bathroom. We know it's a seven to eight year old little girl. And that's about it. But so then we took out, we had a lot of equipment.

We had a lot of equipment. So we had these things called dousing rods, which are, I don't really know their origin. I believe that's Native American. And basically, they're rods that can, they're, they're, you hold two handles. and somehow there's two horizontal rods coming out of those handles that can turn with like zero friction. So like if you tilt it all, it'll turn. So we took two of those, put them in a stand on the coffee table so like, you know, people couldn't move their hands and make it respond. So it could have been a stand on the coffee table so it would move on its own.

So the idea behind it is that you put like if a spirit puts like a minimum amount of pressure, on the dowsing rods, they'll turn. So, like, it should be, you know, easier than trying to manipulate an entire table or Ouija board thing, which I will not, I don't play with Ouija boards. But we put the dowsing rods up and we started saying, you know, cross the two rods for yes, open them really wide for no. And we determined using this method, you know, a yes or no method because you couldn't like spell anything out.

We had to go really slow with yes or no. we determined that she had drowned in the bathtub of the bathroom I had gone into, and somehow it was like an older man's fault. We didn't know who, but it's like, my assumption was, and still is to the day that it was her father, who, you know, it's sad, but drowned her in the tub, which is very dark. And we, that was pretty much it. We, with our equipment, we didn't, like after, oh, no, there's one more thing with the dousing

rods. After we had asked a bunch of questions and, you know, determined that somebody had, like, an older man had drowned her in the tub, the two rods pointed at me. And my mother was sitting on the couch next to me, and she got, like, you know, really angsty. Like, why is this thing pointing at my son? So she physically moved the dowsing rods to point the other way, and they came back and pointed at me again. And we did this like three more times. And my mother got really annoyed to say the least and took the thousand rounds out of the stand and put them on the table and, you know, said that we were done with that. Um, and the theory was that because, you know, I was at the time, 12 years old that since this was a young girl that, you know, it was trying to

talk to me because I was the closest to her and age. Everybody else was a parent or, you know, even older. So I was the person closest to her age. So maybe I was the person that she could most closely relate to. But, um, yeah, having those dowsing rods pointed me for like seven consecutive minutes was just terrifying. And that was pretty much it because, uh, Brian, the leader of our group didn't, he, he didn't really tell me why, but, uh, like he didn't, he didn't really like him. either. And so we went and we talked to the Army guys real quick in the other room who said, yeah, like we've been getting some some weird stuff going on with that bathroom. We heard our

names. We heard it tell us to go. And we think that we saw it like something sit down on one of the beds. Like we saw like the imprint of somebody putting their weight on one of the beds because there's two beds in there. So we all decided like, all right, we definitely have way more than enough evidence. So we're going to call in the psychic and then we're going to leave. So a rundown of when you use your medium is like you don't tell them anything. Like you blindfold them, you don't tell them the name of the hotel. You don't tell them or wherever you're going. You don't tell them anything about the place so that they can't have a biased opinion of what

happens because, you know, as much as many, you know, true psychics as there is probably triple fake ones. So we were very careful with our medium. When we brought her in, we didn't tell her anything. She didn't even know the name of the hotel. She was in a completely separate room on a completely separate floor and didn't talk to anybody. She didn't have her cell phone.

So we brought her into the room that we had been investigating and gotten all of the reports and all the reading of the equipment. And right off the bat, she says, oh, there's a little girl in here. And, you know, that was like terrifying. And also, you know, at the same time, I'm sitting there like, okay, you know, she's real. She, she's not in any way she's trying to fake us out because she just confirmed what we're getting with actual equipment and, you know, all the information that we've gotten by ourselves. And she hasn't been in communication of any of us. So immediately all doubts about this person left my mind.

and she, you know, kind of sat and cocked. She sat down on one of the beds, like the king-sized bed in the room with the coffee table and kind of like cocked her head to the right, you know, like a cat would when it's trying to listen. And, you know, I have to assume that's what she was doing was like listening to something or sensing whatever it was. And then she said, oh, the little girl likes to play. in the water. And we thought that she was talking about the ocean because the hotel was like a beach side hotel. So we're like, no, she can't leave the bathroom. Or no, she can't play in

the water. She has to stay in the room. And she's like, oh, no, I'm not talking about the ocean. I'm talking about the water and the bath. And I just got up and left the room because I really didn't want to mess with that anymore. And nobody really did. So we all left at the same time. and by now we've spent maybe two two and a half hours investigating and so Brian pulls out his radio that's been off well not off but hasn't gone off he hasn't used their anything like that just so we can get in touch with the other team we've been with him the whole time so they haven't been you know swapping information or anything like that so he pulls out his radio he was like okay joe bring your team back we're going to debrief in the conference room

and you know they had similar results as us in the first building that we went to the extra room building nothing nothing happened in there for them either so that was a really uneventful place but when we got to the room that we had gotten all of our readings and they said yeah we had we we had some crazy readings but we didn't ask the same kind of questions you did we just you know if you're here kind of deal so like if you're here come closer and they got like every single light on the equipment would light up. The EMF field thing didn't turn off for like the entire time they were in there. And then the worst part that I have goosebumps talking about it.

One of the people said that they had seen a little girl's head pop out of the same bathroom that we had, you know, gotten, we determined that there was a little girl who had died in. and like that that's just like a oh wow kind of moment like that's the second that all you know skepticism really left my head and I was I was still like 12 years old but I walked in there you know like a pretty diehard skeptic like I enjoyed scary stuff but I didn't really believe in any of it and right then just all of my skepticism went out the window and I have yet to go back back to that hotel, mainly because I, you know, I don't really need to use a hotel where I live. But, man, I'm trying to, you know, find a way to, I know what rooms those were. I haven't written down somewhere. I plan on going back. And we'll see if the same stuff happens. But that was really the biggest, like, spiritual encounter I've ever had. And I haven't really experienced anything before or since then.

Let me ask you, what made you look into a mirror? I mean, you're in there and you look into the mirror. A lot of people don't, I mean, they could be at home in their bathroom with the lights off and don't want to look at their reflection in the mirror.

It's just a creepy thing. What made you look in the mirror? Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I guess, like, it was a really small bathroom, so, I mean, I could say that there was really no other place to look unless I wanted to look at a toilet. But I don't know.

Like the mirror, it just, like, it seemed, to put it in, you know, the best words that I can, it just seemed like the most attractive place to look, which, you know, kind of sounds, you know, like I want to look at myself. But it just, like, I don't know, I walked the end in the mirror that was on my right, and it just, like, kind of, I don't want to say, like, called to me. because that sounds cheesy. Like when I saw, like, you know, the kind of glint of the mirror, I'm like, okay, you know what, I'll look in there.

And I really, I couldn't give you a good reason on why I chose to do that. Like, if I was doing it in a way that I would usually, you know, clear a room, like, if you're, if you're going in the room and you're looking for a bad guy in training or something like that, you open the shower curtain, you check the cabinet, you look at a sink, you look behind the toilet, everything like that. But for some reason I didn't do that here. maybe it's because I was 12 but you know I saw the mirror and the mirror seemed like the best option for some unknown reason and now thinking back on it I mean something could have conceivably manipulated me to some extent to look there but um really I couldn't tell you I couldn't give you a good idea so do you remember roughly how long you were looking in the mirror before you saw the shower curtain tug? I'd say, oh, because it felt like a lot longer than I know it really was.

So I'd say maybe 15, 20 seconds at most. Well, that's a pretty long time to be staring into the mirror and stuff. I mean, I, because my first reaction was, I thought maybe you just kind of glimpsed into the mirror and saw the curtain behind you. But now that I'm thinking back to how you described it, you were, you were looking into. in a mirror because you had to look back behind you to the curtain to see that. Did you hear anything? I mean, when you saw that curtain tug, did you hear the curtain kind of move at all behind you? No, that was part of the scary thing because it didn't like, the rings didn't move.

It was just like, like, like, I looked like something kind of like not brushed against it. Like, it looked like someone took their fingers and kind of like raked against it. almost like made like cup their hand and you know pushed against the back like it like it was if they were trying to move the shower curtain without grabbing it um and i don't know i guess that's the best way i can describe it i didn't hear anything it didn't the whole shower curtain didn't move it just looked like somebody had like tried and missed to fully pull back the shower curtain i got you yeah because i mean i find it i just find this whole thing interesting because the other group said they saw little girl's head pop out of that bathroom.

And that was before you went in there, correct? Yes, that was before we went in there. And we had not spoken to them. Nobody from ours had talked except for to say, you know, switch. Okay. So her head pops out. The two military guys hear their names, and they know there's something going on in the bathroom.

then you see the curtain tug. So clearly that whole, it seems to me, at least on a more broad level, that it wasn't necessarily focusing in on any one particular person throughout the whole 20 people there, but it was more focused on the group, but within that group, it was kind of leaning towards individuals

because it did seem like it was leaning towards, you where you see the curtain tug, but then also the rods point in your direction. Did you at all feel like you were being singled out? I felt like I was definitely being singled out when the rods were pointing at me. However, I didn't necessarily feel like it was malicious. I didn't feel threatened. I did feel like I was being singled out. But I also thought like, hey, like this is just, you know, as a kid, I'm a kid. I would, if I was looking for somebody, in a group like this, I'd probably look for the youngest person too. But I was really the only person that it made contact with more than once.

So, like, I definitely felt like there was, you know, it was trying to somehow make a connection with me specifically. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it definitely sounds like there was communication on different levels. Have you ever heard of the story, I think it was, or not the story, the game, I think it's called Bloody Mary. Have you ever heard of that? Yes, I have played it in fact.

Okay. Before I ask you what happened when you played it, well, let me ask you. What happened when you played it? Did anything happen? I don't think anything happened. I think now I will not say that nothing happened because when I played it,

I played it a few times and sometimes I've just been like, okay, this is fine. And then there have been other times where I could have sworn that I saw something like move in the mirror behind me. And those times are really freaked me out. I just bolted out of the bathroom, but I never saw anything that I can like a hundred percent confirm was, you know, not supposed to be in the bathroom in me. Because I think that, you know, it's dark. You have a little bit of light from under the door maybe. And you're looking in, you know, a mirror in almost pitch black.

You're probably going to see something. and, you know, it's just, I think that's just human nature. So I couldn't really confirm or deny if anything happened, because if I thought anything happened, I didn't stand long enough to find out what it was. Yeah. How old are you when you played that game? I played it a lot of times.

I think the most recent time was on base over on the mainland. Me and some of my shipmates were, you were messing around because you get really bored when you're on shift. And it was just after TAPS, which is like that, it's bedtime basically for all military personnel, which is 2,300, 11 o'clock. And my best friend at the time was Chief of Security.

He was like the lead, not a military police officer per se, but he would set what's called Firewatch, which is the people who, you know, are the security people for the building at night. And he was like, okay, you, me, Simmons, was our other friend. You're like a trio. We're going to go ahead of the bathroom and turn out all lights, and we're just going to mess around. That sounds bad. But we're going to go and we're going to play like Bloody Mary or something like that.

I'm like, all right, you don't really seem like the Bloody Mary kind of dude, but I'll hear you on you. So we go in, and it's, you know, it's like a school bathroom. It's pretty much tile floor, bunch of sinks, bunch of stalls, some urinals and stuff like that. And we turn out all the lights. There's a little bit of light coming through the window, even with the shades down. So enough that we can, like, make out each other. And we, you know, one of us goes up to, like, the middle mirror and goes like, Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary. this was Simmons and

Simmit he's a very rock solid dude he doesn't really believe in any of that stuff so he's just like yeah no this is nothing Keenan the Chief Security guy goes up and he does the same thing nothing I go up

none of us really got any reactions but um I mean it was enough to creep us all out but then I found out later that uh one of a not us

not in my group, because we were allowed to be out after tabs. Other people are not, but a few people had snuck out, and they had thought that they had heard someone, not necessarily from the bathroom, but on the same floor as us. They thought that they had heard someone. And granted, it's like a hotel room, except smaller. Take hotel rooms, except smaller.

So there's like a room, a room, a room, a room, a staircase, a room, a room, a room on each side. So it easily could have just been, you know, a sailor or a lot of Marines or somebody. But I said that it sounded like a woman, and male and female bunking is on separate decks, you know, a lot of males are not allowed on the female deck. Females are not allowed on the male deck. So, and that's heavily enforced. Like, we go into the rooms with the flashlights in the door of the night.

So to make sure that, you know, there's no intermingling in the middle of the night. So it was, you know, it's strange to have heard a female voice on the male deck. But they didn't, they couldn't make it out. They just said that it was coming down the staircase. I didn't believe them because you could not hear anything coming down the staircase at any point in time. There were three reinforced steel doors between our deck, the staircase, and then the next level of the staircase, and then the female deck. There were three reinforced steel doors and a big fan blowing on. on the staircase. So you couldn't hear anything from the staircase. So, but these people just

attributed it to that because they didn't want to deal with the alternative. And, but that's, like, the creepiest thing that happened that night, which was funny because we had played Bloody Mary earlier in the night. So we didn't really know what was going on. But, um, that's the only time that I've had anything, you know, really happened. Um, that was probably probably not, like, early, early April on a Saturday of this year. Okay. You know, I just heard today an interview with a, I guess he was an ex-Satanic priest, and he described, he was talking about how he got into what he was doing.

And he said that, I think he was, he was a kid. He was probably like 12 or 13 years old, I think he said. and it all started with that game Bloody Mary for him. They played that game and they actually saw a face in the mirror, an entity on demand. Like, he could do it any time and he would get this entity looking back at him in the mirror. And he said that he started playing the game Dungeons and Dragons. And this was back in the 70s.

And he said they actually put real spells in the game back then. and so he was playing with the whole idea of magic and things like that. And he was just curious. He wanted to know if this magic thing was real. And so he started playing with it and casting his own spells. And he hit what really kind of topped him over, put him over the top with, okay, this magic thing is, it's real. Like, this is real stuff.

He combined a spell with doing Bloody Mary. and the results that he got from doing that were huge. And so, no, I just found that interesting. You mentioned about the mirror, and then I started thinking about what I heard today and all that. It's interesting, though, that you have heard of that game and you've played it several times. I remember when I was a kid, kids would play it and stuff,

and I can't remember if I played it or not. I know I was around kids that were trying it, so chances are I was at least in the room with them. but I don't remember anything ever happening. You mentioned earlier about the Ouija board thing that you don't touch Ouija boards. What's your thought process behind that? So since this hotel investigation

went to the professionals from the TV series, I've been trying to do it on my own. It's very little success because I can't afford anywhere near the amount or quality of equipment they have, But I think I just picked up the last piece, so everything's falling in the place. But I've been trying to, you know, be a paranormal investigator where I live, because there aren't any. We live on a very small island.

So there's really, there's no one here besides me that would really put forth the effort, time or money to do this. And the first rule of paranormal investigating is do not play with Wiki boards. because I don't know Did you ever see the movie The Conjuring? No, no, I haven't. I try to stay away from those movies. They freak me out too much. Yeah, fair.

But in The Conjuring, it's a true story for the most part. But there's the two lead paranormal investigators that this country has ever seen. Ed and Lorraine Warren. and Ed is they're like basically they're like Catholic Church commandos when it comes to you know like dealing with demons and spiritual activity and stuff like that so if somebody thinks

that they have a problem in their house the Catholic church maybe I don't remember if it's like a local church or like the actual because they get approval from the Vatican for most of their their you know expeditions so the church would send them even though they weren't like ordained priests. They were the church's special team of investigators back in like the 70s through all the way up to I think today. Ed died a few years

ago, but Lorraine still out there. And they tell you, like I believe they have a book out, but in an interview with both of them, they say like Ouija boards. It's like playing Russia, but I believe that's how

it was described. was playing Russian roulette. So basically, you know, Russian roulette, you have one bullet in a gun, you spin the cylinder, and you have a one out of six chance of pulling the trigger and dying. And that's, like, not the exact proportion, obviously, but, like, if you're playing with a Ouija board, you have, you know, there's a chance that you'll end up with, you know, a friendly spirit, but there's also, you know, a chance that you'll ruin your life and end up with something demonic. to the Ouija board.

So it's a game of, you know, spiritual, demonic rush, marlette. So you just, you stay away from them. I tell all my friends, like, you pull one out. You even, like, show me the box. I'm leaving your house and I'm not coming back. So nobody messes with it around me. No one, I'm sure they've done it and just not told me. But I don't, I do not, under any circumstances, this mess with Ouija boards.

Yeah, I mean, with the whole Ouija board thing, I mean, you just can't, you don't control what comes in from the other side in that situation at all. And I've heard stories of that too. I mean, I know when I was in, I think I was in college. I'm pretty sure I heard this from a professor in college. He was actually asked to come over to somebody's house to help deal with a problem from playing with the Ouija board where knives were actually sliding in underneath the door while they were playing the game. and ever since ever since that point,

they were experiencing a lot of crap in the house and stuff. And he went over to help them deal with it. But yeah, so I mean, the whole Ouija board, I mean, when I was a kid, my mom told me, don't touch the Ouija board, blah, blah. So I just never did. But there was two girls in my neighborhood who messed with that stuff

because their mom taught them how to play with all that stuff. I mean, let's put this. way. The two sisters, they invited me in the house the one time to watch them levitate a table with their hands on top. Oh, my. I didn't go in, though. The other guys did. I didn't. I was like, no, I think I'm going to stay out here. Good job, Tony. Yeah, no. Good call. I'll tell you, man, it's just so funny that I do this show and talk to people that experience this stuff, because when I was a kid growing up, kind of stuff scared me so much. I stayed away from everything. Like, I just, I can't even describe to you how much this kind of stuff scares me. And I don't, it's not like I'm not scared of it. Like,

if something were to happen right now, like, I would be scared probably, yeah. But it's like, I don't, I don't fear it like I used to, you know? I don't know if that makes sense. Like, like, like, yeah, I get that 100%. I, I, uh, I'm more confident in who I am as a human being now, uh, compared to when I was a kid. And, I just, I know who I am, so I don't fear it, even though I wouldn't want it to happen, you know? Yeah, yeah, I got you 100% now. So, before we get out of here, I want to ask you, what are your thoughts on the whole paranormal realm of things? That's very broad. I'm sorry.

What do you think these entities are? Do you think it's like a singular thing, like one thing that people are experiencing? Or do you think there's certain, there's different levels going on here when it comes to these spiritual entities people are seeing and experiencing? Oh, man. So I believe that I'm going to attack this both, you know, very scientifically. And I'm going to attack it, attack it like with the woo factor. So we know science, this is basic biology, you know that there is energy inside your person, okay? You have electrical signals in your brain, controlling everything you do, and you are both consuming and producing energy.

So if you die, energy cannot be created and destroyed, the law of conservation of energy. It can't be destroyed. So where does it go? you can say that some of the physical energy goes to the place that you're buried worms, grass, you turn it to compost based on you're buried or burned or something

but what happens to the electrical energy that is going on in your brain because that doesn't just get the grass, it doesn't get burned, it goes somewhere so that's why we use like electromagnetic frequency readers is because you know, these spirits can, you know, affect the electrical fields around them.

That's why lights flicker. That's why our equipment goes off. That's by flashlights. They know their battery drains, camera battery drain. Or at least we think so. We can't confirm that, of course. But I feel like that's, you know, the closest we can come to a scientific answer for it. To attack it from the woo factor, as they say, I am.

I know you're a very Christian man. I'm not a Christian person. That's not to say I'm not necessarily, you know, religious. It's just I'm not, I'm very open. So I feel like, you know, to some extent, maybe every religion has, has, you know, something true behind it, if not a lot. There's a, there's a saying, not a saying.

quote from an actor who was in one of the James Bond movies that I hope nobody, you know, gets offended byter and like that. But it says, um, people, uh, think you're, you're crazy when you talk about, you know, Thor and Odin with their, their spears and their hammers, but it's, is perfectly acceptable for a guy to turn Potter into wine. So when it comes to religion, I don't think that there's really, there's, I don't know if there's one way or if there's multiple ways depending on what you you choose or I really couldn't tell you the truth about religion at all, at least from my eyes. I know that everybody has their

own idea and I'm perfectly okay with that. But when it comes to that, I do think that, you know, we probably go somewhere in the military community. Um, we have every religion, of course, but, um, you see a lot of, you know, predominantly Christian people and then something that's actually making a new reappearance is, um, like Scandinavian paganism, which is really obscure, but, um, something that I, you know, you hear Till Valhalla a lot and sometimes people mean it, sometimes people don't mean it, But, you know, a lot of people in the military like to believe that there's a special heaven for warriors. Bahá'u'llah.

And in every religion, there's some form of afterlife that random Scandinavian one is kind of just, you know, making my point. But I feel like there's definitely a place that you're supposed to go at least. And I don't know if you either get denied from it. Like if you are trying to get into heaven and you just, you just, you just, you just, you just, you just didn't qualify for some reason. Maybe you were just a bad person. Maybe you didn't, you know, we're never forgiven. Maybe you did something wrong.

And you get denied. But you're not necessarily, you know, bad enough to go to hell. Maybe you end up, you know, a spirit wandering here. Something that we usually deal with internal investigation, though, is just like emotional ties. So when somebody does die, they get attached to, you know, either their remains, where they died, something of importance to them. that's why you have things like, you know, cursed objects. And like the Annabelle doll, which is a big movie, there's a doll that, you know, was seemingly possessed.

Things can attach themselves to certain places that are either, you know, they can be, you know, someone's soul, someone's spirit, or that can be something demonic, which demonic doesn't necessarily mean, I mean, there's a lot of ways you can interpret a demon. A lot of people think that they were created by Lucifer or are human souls that have just been tormented to the point that they're just no longer human souls. There's a lot of just ways that you can do it, but they're evil. No one can really deny that part. So you have, you know, conceivably good spirits and then you have, you know, hell raisers over here if you want to ruin your life that can get tied to anywhere. and, you know, I fully believe that both of them are real. And I also believe that, in my personal opinion, that both were at least once human. Because I don't think that there's a, I do like, you know, cryptid and cryptozoology and stuff like that.

So I definitely think there's certain things that we, that do exist in this world that we just don't know about. but I think that I don't think the demons are just another, you know, race of spirit. I think that they're, you know, just what happens to evil people. Because I've seen evil people before and, you know, the things that you hear demons do are not all that much different than some of the stuff that I've seen regular people do. So, like, when I come to it, I think that they were human beings and somehow they're on a different plane.

now that their, you know, their vessel, their body is gone. That's my sense on what that, you know, the spiritual realm really is. Okay. Yeah, I got you, man. I've heard so many different ideas and different things. I mean, even within the, for lack of better terms, religious community, I hate that word religious, period. Like, I just, we'll get on that some other time. But just say within the religious community stuff, you ask somebody who, you know, they're serious about their faith or whatever. You ask them, where do demons come from?

And if you ask a room of 100 people and they all write down their answer, you're going to get like at least five or six different responses on where demons come from. And so, I mean, there's a lot of different ideas and thoughts behind, you know, where this whole other realm. It's an unseen realm, you know, and we know it's there. We know it's real, but we're left trying to figure out how, where, and why, you know? Yeah. So, I mean, one thing is for sure is it's there, you know? I just did the, um, the, uh, the, uh, the Blav Fest, uh, festival last weekend or two weekends ago. And we had a vendors table there. And this one guy comes over and you know I start talking to him and I can tell him about the show and what we're

about and he's an older gentleman and he kind of like chuckled and he's like well do you believe in that stuff and I was like well I'd have a show down I you know like of course I believe that this stuff is going on and he's like there are no such things as ghosts and I looked at him I said how could you possibly say that of all things weird and unusual ghosts are like the most thing people experience. You know, like, it's like ghosts and probably UFOs. I mean, I'm just so surprised that there's still people out there that want to deny the existence of this, this unseen realm. I mean, I guess if you're, I mean, if you're talking about atheistic, um, uh, mentalities and stuff, I'm sure, yeah, it makes sense. And I guess because you,

you wouldn't believe that there's anything after you die. But, um, I mean, even that I don't understand because, I mean, some people would say, well, okay, well, it's energy. So it doesn't have to be anything spiritual, but it's energy like you were describing earlier. But that's what I'm saying. Like, what I just laid out here was like three different thoughts, you know? So, I mean, it's just, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a puzzle that may never get completely solved. And, and I'm okay with that, you know, gives us something to talk about, gives us something to talk about. So, yeah. Well, Riley, I really appreciate coming on tonight and talk. And talk. with me and sharing your experiences. If you ever have anything else you'd like to share, just let me know. Absolutely. All right, man. I'll talk to you later. Well, that's the show, everybody. I hope you enjoyed it. I had a good time talking with Riley, and I really do wish him a lot of luck in the military. If you guys have any questions, like I said, shoot me an email, or if you've had an encounter, you'd like to share with me, whether it's UFO, Bigfoot, alien, government conspiracy. It doesn't matter what it is to me. Go ahead and email me at the Confessionalspodcast

at gmail.com or go to the website the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the connection section, and you can reach me that way as well. I really hope you guys enjoyed the show. Have a good week. Take care, guys. It's a problem. It really is. And it's never going to get better because you're never going to take social media away from people. But it's a problem because I feel like we've been conditioned now over the last, what, 15, 16, 17 years since the year 2000, turn of the century, Y2K, all that crap that went down. Like, we really saw a technology boom once the century turned. People are being conditioned to not think just do. And so whenever there's something going on, everybody has to have a reaction to it. And they all think they have.

to have their voice heard. And the first thing they read that they get emotional about, either they agree or disagree with, they go right to Facebook and they write out of the status saying, oh, Trump's this awful person or Trump's awesome because he did this. And it's like, nobody wants to think about anything anymore. They just want to react. Yeah. And it's scary. It's scary because we're literally becoming a country of buffoons. And like I said, it's only going to get worse because I have the, like, I don't, I don't want to say it's a theory because I really believe it's going to happen. So this is what I believe is going to happen over the next 10 to 15 years, probably sooner though. There's two things that are becoming pretty prevalent

in our technology society. And, and I know you've heard of it, AI, artificial intelligence, and virtual reality. Those two things are going to be huge in the next few years. Absolutely huge. Like right now, there's companies developing. programming software and things like that, that it's not the best, but it does the job. It's going to get better. Like, if you think,

what's that thing? That, what's, I think it's like Amazon sells it. You talk to it and it just, it tells you stuff. Oh, yeah, the Amazon Echo. Echo, yes. If you think, like, things like that, Echo are amazing, which they are. It's nothing.

It pales in comparison. Like, AI is going to get to the point, where it literally can think for you and know what you want before you even tell it. It's going to, it's going to have an algorithm that it learns you. Like, AI is already doing that. There is a program that operates off artificial intelligence, and it's just just like computer program. And it has like these gaps where, like it was like this computer buildings and stuff.

And they put a, like a fake person in there, like a skeleton almost. And the computer, without anybody telling it, figured out, learned how to take that skeleton and make it walk and jump across the gaps between the buildings. Like that's, like that's what we're doing. That's what we're dealing with here. We're talking about computer artificial intelligence that is learning on its own. And that in itself could be a movie and dangerous. In fact, they've made movies about that. I robot with Will Smith is all about that. But also the virtual reality thing where people are literally going to have to struggle with the decision with what reality they want to live in. Artificial intelligence and virtual reality

are going to be married together. And I think like things like Facebook, I think you're going to see one day Facebook go virtual reality, where you actually go into this virtual reality to socialize with the people on your friends list, things like that. And it's going to get to the point where virtual reality is going to be so good that people aren't going to want to leave it. They're not going to want to leave their houses. They're not going to want to go do things because the virtual reality is better than the real reality. And for me personally, that's scary. That's scary. I don't, I don't want to get there, but I think that's where we're going. And I think that, go ahead. It's just, it's funny that you mentioned that. Actually, I just saw a trailer for a movie where that

exact situation happens where it's like maybe 20 years in the future and everybody, the only solace they have and the only real place that they spend any other time is in like this virtual reality world where they can pretty much do anything. Yeah. And scary because it's possible. And that's the thing like

I don't, I hate that I hate this term conspiracy theorist and I guess it's what you can label me I guess in a sense. But I think personally what I what I say, what I think is logical. Like when it comes to that, stuff like I think that's disclosure. I think that's soft disclosure where like they're allowing you to

see what they're going to do so that's not not such a shock to you. For instance, I believe that the alien phenomenon is going to become a very real thing in our society globally in the future. And I think that all these quote unquote alien movies that, I mean, you have. some alien movies where the aliens are straight up bad guys and they want to eat your brains. But there's a lot of movies out there that try to make these aliens turn out to be these good, peaceful beings. And I think what we're dealing with is some kind of disclosure where they're psychologically setting your brain up so that when this happens, you're not freaked out because I really believe that they're going to come forward and say, yes, we've made contact

with aliens. They are here, but they're here to help our, they're here to help our race and us to the next step of our evolutionary process. And I think that's going to make a lot of sense to a lot of people when their government is saying it's okay. Because if the government came out and said, aliens are here, we're being attacked. People are going to be going crazy. But I think if they come out and say, yeah, aliens are here, but they're here to help us, I think a lot of people are going to be starting to connect the dots to all the theatrics that they've been exposed to through TV, movies where aliens are coming to help. And it's going to help keep people calm in the middle of a transition.

I think you're going to start seeing, like the whole transhumanism. Do you know what transhumanism is? I've heard of it. I don't know too much about it. Okay. So I'm really digging in my bag here. I didn't plan on doing this, but I'm sorry. So transhumanism is basically human beings changing their bodies to,

have robotic, organically or robotic features. So like, say you lose your arm and now you have a robot arm that literally is another arm, but it's not your, your biological arm. Yeah. And so there's that whole transhumanism thing going on where you're actually seeing that happen. Like there's a lot of, all you do is Google it. And there's a, there's a lot of scientific things happening right now where they're they're starting to try to transform the human body basically to not age, to not die. Like they believe that DNA can be manipulated, and if it can be manipulated, we should manipulate it so that we no longer age and we're, we don't die, basically becoming gods. And it's just this whole, I believe it's all working together towards one thing.

And I say that because I really believe that the whole alien idea of things, I think that the part of that process is going to be, they're here to help us to evolve into this next phase of our existence, which would be transhumanism, where you yourself can be a God and live forever by taking on these features. you know um and for me as a christian i i just it doesn't it doesn't mix good with me you know so like if that day ever comes one if that day ever comes just know that i told you about it and two uh and two if that day comes know that i'm going to be on the front lines of bucking the system i ain't taking no chip i'm not taking any pills to make me uh to help transport to help cue because what they're going to say is take this pill and it will begin it'll begin to help cure your DNA as if your DNA is flawed and it needs fixed that kind of stuff Tony ain't playing with I ain't playing with it you you can you can tell me that you're I'm going to live an extra three to 500 years by doing these things

I ain't touching I'm going to be one of those crazy Christians that are are holding humanity back from evolving into the next stage I'm going to be that guy like nope not me what it's going to be like is this. You know how like people look at Amish people now. They're like, why, how could you live like that? Like I live in Pennsylvania and there's Amish in southern, southern Pennsylvania. Dude, these people horse and buggy 24-7, they don't do cars. When they're farming their fields, they do it the old school way. Like, that's the way people are going to look at me as a Christian in the future. I really believe they're going to be like, they're going to be like, you're, this person's living with 2017 technology when they could be living with 2050 technology,

you know? Yeah. It is what it is. though. But enough about me. We're here to talk about you. So you want to talk about your paranormal experiences, right? We've assaulted back toads of all the world to bring here his best products. Proubal us all before that we get them.