The Confessionals - RELOADED | 282: Insane Paranormal Tales From the U.K.

Episode Date: October 2, 2023

In Episode 282: Insane Paranormal Tales From the U.K., we have the pleasure of being joined by Marcus, hailing from the United Kingdom. Marcus takes us on a captivating journey through the numerous pa...ranormal encounters he has experienced in his local area. Among these remarkable tales is an eerie incident that includes an unsettling audio recording capturing a spine-chilling scream.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinCome Meet Tony:LIVE SHOW in Gatlinburg, TN!Tickets: https://bit.ly/3IC4IkxWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals60" for 60% off plus free shipping!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Merkel Media I guess it's time To go back in time Are you telling me You built a time machine Out of a Dolion Time is but a stubborn
Starting point is 00:00:15 illusion I have a lot of memories Of the past People are time traveling within themselves Time travel Is possible This was all circulating
Starting point is 00:00:29 Around the base that a giant had been killed but no one was supposed to talk about it. Boney fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
Starting point is 00:00:51 A giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. somebody else shoot them in the face shoot them in the face they basically decapitated something pulling at my leg and I look over and there are two small and they're literally pushed and because I know I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:01:44 okay I reload welcome to the show everybody you're listening to the confessionals I am your host tony merkel thank you for being here if you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show go ahead and shoot me that email my email address is the confessionals at the confessionals Podcast.com. That's The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Either it works for me, just get a hold of me. And if you want to hear more shows every week, go to the Confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the join button and become a member to the website today because we release an extra show every Thursday right there on the website for your listening
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Starting point is 00:03:32 Marcus from the UK, how are you doing, man? Hey, pretty good, thanks. How are you? I'm doing great, man. So, you know, I don't get a ton of people coming on the show from the UK. I know we got a lot of listeners in the UK, but not a whole lot of them reach out and stuff. So this is a call to all my UK listeners. If you have a story you want to share and stuff, go ahead and contact me like Marcus did,
Starting point is 00:03:53 because we'll definitely bring you on the show to share your experiences as well. Marcus, you have a ton of experiences throughout your life. And it starts in your childhood, right? That's right, yeah. It starts in my childhood, and it goes all through my teenage years. And for some strange reason, it ends in my mid-20s. But yeah, some mind-bending things, some things that I can't explain to this day. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah, so let's just get. it going right now then with your childhood and start walking us into these first experiences you had and how that progresses throughout your life because I do find it interesting that these experiences seem to have stopped at some point and I'm curious as to maybe hearing about how these things unfold and maybe that will show some detail as to why they stopped. I'm not sure, but let's hear it out. Yeah, so basically I grew up on a farm in the north of England, you know, a place called Lancashire, which is a county, not too far away from Manchester.
Starting point is 00:05:02 A lot of people might know Manchester, Manchester United, the football team. So this farm that we lived on was in the middle of nowhere. It was a huge old 16th century stone farmhouse with a lot of land around it, no streetlights for miles, and a nearest neighbor was probably about four miles away. and so, you know, it could be a pretty creepy place, as it is on its own. But I first started, odd things first started happening when, I think when it was a toddler, for some reason I was always afraid to sleep in my bedroom. My mother and father would have sleepless nights because I just refused to sleep in my room.
Starting point is 00:05:51 and it was very odd. I had lots of different incidents. Names being called out when no one was in the house. I could hear my name being shouted from downstairs. Ran downstairs. No one was around. No was in the kitchen. I could see out of the window
Starting point is 00:06:12 and my mother and father were across in the field opposite. So that was the first experience I had where I was questioning the nature of reality, if you will, at a very young age. And then the next experience I could remember, it all revolved around the bedroom that I was sleeping in when I think back about the incident. And I think I was probably about five years old. All of a sudden, I was woken up in the middle of the night with a huge bank. and I had three shelves on the wall, on the head,
Starting point is 00:06:53 the wall where my head was, there was three shelves above me and it had all my board games on toys from when I was a kid. And every single board game literally flew off the shelf and buried me in the bed. And my mother came racing in, screaming to my dad, like, what's going on, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:07:15 And I remember like pulling myself, from under all these board games, thinking, wow, what just happened? And it's very odd because I remember being moved out of that bedroom into a spare room. And I just didn't think anything of it at that age because, you know, you don't have to question things like that.
Starting point is 00:07:37 You don't know. It was strange. I wouldn't go back into my own bedroom, even to play with my toys. And at the time, it just seemed so normal. But looking back, with hindsight, it seems really strange. And my bedroom would always feel ice cold compared to the other room that I'd stop in often.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And I was, oh, whenever I did go back into that bedroom, I'd find myself in the middle of the night in the same bed as my mother and father, much to my father's annoyance. He would end up sleeping in my room and eventually I'd give him sleepless nights. but there was something that just made me petrified about this bedroom. And eventually, you know, I grew a bit older. I was like 10 years old. And on an unrelated topic to the haunting style of things that was going on, my mother called to me that there was strange light outside the window.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So our living room at the back of the front, farm overlooked miles of meadowland and there was a valley looking down. And so we had what's called a telegraph pole, which is like the telegraph pole fed the farm line to the house. And using that as a visual marker, you could see a huge circular light in the sky. And it was almost like a Simon Seitz with the different colors in each corner. So you have the red, yellow. green, blue. And my mother shouted to me.
Starting point is 00:09:19 My dad was actually out that evening. My mum shouted, hey, come and have a look at this. This is really strange. It doesn't look like a star. So I had a look. And this weird light with different colors all twinkling was moving in a square formation.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And you could see where this telegraph pole was. it would move down, across to the right, up to the left, down in a square formation over and over and over. And it just kept going for about half an hour. And my father eventually returned. And my mother called him over and said, you know, this is really strange. It doesn't look like anything, like a star. You know, it's not the pole star. It's not Venus.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It looks too close. and yeah that that was like my first UFO encounter and then after that I'd have really strange recurring dreams in that bedroom especially I have recurring dreams like at the front of the house we had a huge yard that led up to a big stone barn and I'd have these dreams that there were a gathering of children all holding hands
Starting point is 00:10:43 and there were these kind of guardians overlooking us and teaching us and teachers to sing things and to learn things and this dream happened over and over and the strange thing was whenever I awoke from one of these dreams I was so restless that I'd be out of my bed
Starting point is 00:11:04 on the floor with the covers absolutely tangled around me which really freaked me out and these dreams. these dreams carried on for quite a few years. And then after that, my mum got ill, unfortunately, she got cancer. So we had to move to my grandparents' house, which was in a neighbouring city. But it was a very old house, fun enough. It was a stable that had been converted into a house.
Starting point is 00:11:42 was actually all the old stables had been totally converted into a, the front of the house was a cottage and the back of the house was old stables, but they'd converted it all into a property and joined it all. There was some tales originally when the workers there that there was some strange happenings and some banging and people could hear voices, but nobody really thought of anything of it. When I was stopping there, and I was stopping in the same room as my grandfather,
Starting point is 00:12:12 There was two single beds. So I was in a single bed. My grandfather was in a single bed. My grandmother was sleeping in a double bed with my mother in another room. And I was fast asleep. It must have been about two in the morning. And I got violently awoken with what felt like somebody literally pulling my face out of the bed. And it was so shocking and viscered.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I opened my eyes and I thought it must have been somebody trying to warm me or something could it have been a fire or an emergency or something but when I opened my eyes all I could see was a hazy blur in front of me and this panicked me even more so and so I started pulling away
Starting point is 00:13:02 and it was almost like suction pulling me out to the side of the bad and I had to pull with all my might to get free of it and when I did my adrenaline kicked in so hard. I just ran out of the room, down the stairs, breathing heavily and just sat there. I didn't know what to do or just took me about half an hour to process what happened.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So I ran back up the stairs in this small little cottage, peaked tentatively around the door to see nothing there. My grandfather's fast asleep. For some reason I didn't wake him up. I don't know why. A lot of people would have just freaked out and woken up anybody near them and said what happened.
Starting point is 00:13:50 For some reason I kept it to myself and I just stopped up all night downstairs in an armchair and just thought about it and tried to come to terms with what on earth it was. That was the experience of that. And then after that,
Starting point is 00:14:14 unfortunately my mum didn't make the battle with the cancer so she died when I was really younger like 13 14 and my dad was a truck driver just like yourself and he was away quite a few nights he was delivering pet food around the country I had a girlfriend at that time I think this was was I must have been about what 18 and my dad had moved to just to this small town in the middle of nowhere. I lost touch with all my friends. I was quite unhappy for obvious reasons because the depression of kind of losing your mother
Starting point is 00:14:58 at such an early age. I built myself a whole group of friends. I used to skateboard. I had this big circle of friends and then to be moved away from all that into this town that was quite in hospice. a really small what they call terrorist house which just seemed very odd from the outset as soon as we moved in there I was very unhappy but I didn't know why I just I never felt such unease
Starting point is 00:15:30 and I'd met my my wife who I've been married to for a long time I met her at college we both met at art college and I'd started dating her at the time. So my dad would be away maybe Tuesdays, Wednesdays, every week. So my girlfriend would come around
Starting point is 00:15:58 at that time and we'd just hang out and watch Telly, her friends had come around as well. We'd watch, you know, a few shows back then. And they're just hanging out really like usual. And then what the
Starting point is 00:16:14 strange thing was, was every time that she would go and get and call a cab to go home, there was a strange surface smell started to appear throughout the whole house. And I said to her, she was just waiting for a cab and I said, do you smell that? And she said, yeah, it's like somebody's just struck a match, but it's everywhere. And that carried on for maybe a few weeks. always the same night never when my father was in like clockwork and then things started to get worse
Starting point is 00:16:52 so for instance again my girlfriend would come round and by the time like say 11 o'clock she was getting a cab home the sofa smell but then a mist or haze would start to fill the room
Starting point is 00:17:09 we had two rooms on the ground floor there was like what we call the front room which led out to the street and then we had a back room which was more like lounge and a kitchen and you could see this mist almost a hazy mist gathering from the back room and almost coming forward into the front room and I just thought it was my imagination and she was going out of the door into the cab at that time and this thing was like clockwork it was almost as if it was waiting for people to be out of the house and then gradually over the weeks all hell would break loose.
Starting point is 00:17:46 It went from just the sofa smell to the haze through to noises that I could hear so I would literally be in bed watching a small portable TV
Starting point is 00:18:00 back then and I could hear banging downstairs like what seemed like in the kitchen cutlery in the drawer would almost seem like it was being rattled
Starting point is 00:18:11 so I would run downstairs to have to check things out to see no nothing couldn't see anything no on there draw was exactly how it should be so this started to really unnerve me and I ran back in the bedroom and it made me want to barricade myself in my room it got that bad so I had this huge board that I used to use as a like a drawing board like a huge piece of wood and I lodged that up against my door handle because things had started freed me out that much and I would sit bolt up right in my bed afraid to go to sleep
Starting point is 00:18:49 then strange things started happening like the TV the signal would go off intermittently static would be on screen for two minutes and then the picture would come back on and again you could hear the rattling and the banging downstairs
Starting point is 00:19:07 and this was like on a regular schedule like clockwork every time my father would be away in his long distance lorry driving this would happen as soon as i was in the house on my own and eventually um there was an episode where it's almost like this whatever it was whether it would call it an entity or a a poltergeist or whatever who knows but it's almost like it was getting more daring and it wasn't waiting until I was on my own. My girlfriend was there one Wednesday and we were both sat downstairs at about 10 in the evening and we both heard this huge bang. It was like the house shook and we both
Starting point is 00:19:56 interpreted it in totally different ways. I ran into the kitchen. She ran upstairs to the bathroom and then she didn't notice anything but I kind of went upstairs and then she ran upstairs and then she ran downstairs having a look around because we thought maybe somebody broke in the house. And then I went into the bathroom and I noticed something really strange. We had the usual small bathroom. It was a configuration of a toilet, a small bathtub with a window. And the toilet, on the top of the toilet where the flushing mechanism was, there was a small bowl of porpoeree, you know, the stuff that's like makes the house smell nice.
Starting point is 00:20:42 it's all the dried kind of petals or whatever. Now, this bowl had been flipped almost and it was in the bathtub, which was about two foot away. And the whole room was filled for this debris of all this poultry. But this popery had actually gone on the shelf above the toilet as well, which really freaked me out because, you know, it was kind of defining the laws of physics. it was like if somebody had knocked that over
Starting point is 00:21:14 then surely it would have just dropped onto the floor how on earth the actual dish had gone from the top of the toilet into the bathtub and then the petals dried whatever flowers or whatever they were how that ended up on a shelf like a foot higher just baffled me and these things just kept carrying on
Starting point is 00:21:38 all these weird kind of incidents all the time. And it's almost like this thing was following me around because then I started to have strange occurrences at friends' houses, whether it be local friends that I had or friends, even in total different counties or towns. It's like something had attached to me or was following me around. And it wasn't until years later that I pieced all these things together and tried to make sense of it. Because at the time, a lot of these incidents were so far apart that you didn't put them together in any kind of catalog and try and make sense of it.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I always kind of sense that I must have been very sensitive to paranormal things and I must have been, something must have attached me almost or made me able to be able to. able to see things or experience things that others couldn't. And the next kind of event that happened that was incredibly strange. It just gets stranger as it goes along. I had a friend, a best friend at that time. We met through skateboarding and we both went to art college.
Starting point is 00:23:05 He lived about a couple of miles away up the road. and I was visiting him and he lived with his father and his stepmother and it was an incredibly old cottage it was like a Tudor cottage from like 1600s or something like that
Starting point is 00:23:20 and his father was renovating a property at the time and so half of the rooms were in disrepair a lot of scaffolding around the outside of the house some rooms were just woodboards others were good to live in
Starting point is 00:23:39 and the walls were kind of a stone not cement or wallpaper but the original stone from La Vera and we were in his bedroom and there was a stone alcove dug into the wall if you will and he was showing me
Starting point is 00:24:02 he was at the end of his year in college and he had a almost like an exam to do, if you will, where he had to submit some pieces of artwork. And he was getting my opinion on them. And so he put this painting up on the wall, like this canvas, and he rested it on the wall. And at that time, I used to smoke.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And I had a pack of mulberry, so I took a mulberry out, passed him one and at that time he said oh will you just check this piece of artwork I've done up and tell me what do you think it's worthy of submitting to this final review
Starting point is 00:24:47 for the end of the year so I hadn't even lit a cigarette at that point I walked over to this stone shelf place the cigarette down on the shelf and it was kind of hanging half off half on the shelf
Starting point is 00:25:03 but sturdy enough on that so I walked over to to where my friend was stood and we started critiquing this painting and all of a sudden we both heard this huge sound that just sounded like this and it was
Starting point is 00:25:25 but at the same time it was so striking so startling the window kind of came open there was a latch on the window opened and the window came open at the same time, which really made us jump out of the skin. And then this noise followed by a sulphur smell instantly made us turn her heads straight away. And as soon as we turned her heads to the shelf, the cigarette looked like somebody had flicked it with the index finger and the thumb like you traditionally do a flick. and it spun about three foot above the shelf spinning into the air and this was the freaky thing
Starting point is 00:26:05 in the air it lit and then landed on the floor so when it when it when it it wasn't lit before it went in the air but as it was in the air it lit exactly and there wasn't any flame or anything nearby nothing very interesting oh it was so freaky that me it was so freaky that me Me and my friend, we are just primal instincts kinked in, and we ran out of the room, down the stairs, through the living room, through the kitchen, out the back door, around the front of the property, across the other side of the street,
Starting point is 00:26:44 and we're just staring up at his bedroom window in shock, and we were looking each other, and we were saying to each other, did that just happen? And he was like, yeah, the cigarette just flicked and lit itself up. And I said, yeah, that's what I saw. And we spent 10 minutes trying to rationalise it to each other before tentatively going back up into that room to try and analyze it like a crime scene.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And we couldn't accept the reality of that because it just seemed too far out. How could ever that happen? It just is impossible. So we were trying to rationalise it with events, it might have caused it you know like oh could it have been a gas leak a spark
Starting point is 00:27:32 could there have been a lightning strike and that blown the window open just any kind of rational thing could a lighter nearby have exploded and we didn't notice and all these kind of things but there was no light in nearby
Starting point is 00:27:50 so this you know it was one of these incidents where it was really freaky but like your brain just ended up rationalising it and storing it away. And then other things started to happen in that property, which put perspective to the cigarette incident almost. And the first thing that happened was it was confirmation from his stepmother, that not herself.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So it made us think that something was going on that house. she was an artist too and she would do a lot of painting a lot of oil painting and in one of these rooms that was still being renovated she had a lot of canvases on easels
Starting point is 00:28:36 and she had a lot of blank canvases on the floor and she just nipped out to go and make a cup of coffee downstairs and all her canvases were neatly stacked up you know on the floor
Starting point is 00:28:51 against a wall but she came back in the room and a lot of these canvases were lodged in a drawer of this cabinet like if you imagine a long horizontal draw and you imagine that the drawer had been opened and canvases have been vertically lodged by the corners and jammed in the drawer so that they were stuck upright and this really freaks her out
Starting point is 00:29:16 and she hadn't told us this until my friend had started talking about some of the experiences that he had and I had and also some of her other friends had well visiting the proxy one of her other friends visited and he was in the bathroom brushing his teeth and something startled him and came past the window
Starting point is 00:29:41 it looked like a figure hurtling down like almost falling vertically past the window and the only thing that he could possibly describe it as was like a shadowy figure looked like it was hanging itself. He just double takes and it really freaked
Starting point is 00:30:00 him out. He came running out and told my friend at that time and all these stories started to come out about this prophecy. And then other nights, I was stopping there overnight. I used to stop
Starting point is 00:30:16 there. We used to watch like anime's or play video games and almost a bit about 20, 22 or something at that point. And then in the middle of the night, my phone was always really restless. He was an insomniac, and often I'd find myself awakening in the night
Starting point is 00:30:36 to find that he wasn't around. He was out of his bed, he was downstairs, watching TV because he couldn't sleep. So that was normal. But this night, I was awakened by breath on my ear and a voice whispering and it said
Starting point is 00:30:52 what are you doing what are you doing and I quickly turn around thinking it was my friend and I said what what you know what do you want and I turn around
Starting point is 00:31:02 and there was nobody there and this really startled me and so the first thought was as he quickly just walked out of the room is he playing a prank on me so I ran downstairs
Starting point is 00:31:14 and the stairs were big enough for him not to have got enough lead to go, I would have heard him running down the stairs if that was the case, went downstairs, he was absolutely fast asleep on the chair, and went back upstairs, and was afraid to go back to sleep that night because it's just so weird, and the physical sensation of breath in your ear and just this foreboding, you know, what are you doing kind of voice? It just really freaked me out. and it was then I started to think is am I attracting all this or you know is it just that
Starting point is 00:31:54 are all these houses that were in just so old and just so rich full of history I started to question at that point and then we had some more conversation uh confirmation from his old cottage that we were renovating uh I think it was his father had gone out of the main bedroom where they slept. I mean, my friend's stepmother, they'd come back into the bedroom and all the books and CDs were stacked up in the middle of the room
Starting point is 00:32:28 in a huge vertical pile and so it's very evident at that point that, you know, it was like poltergeist activity and so there must have been some event or incident and maybe in the past that caused this place to be very haunted indeed. You know, maybe with my friend seeing this person at all, he hung himself. Maybe there was a troubled spirit there and who knows.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And yeah, so that was the kind of, that brings to a close. My friends haunted historic cottage, if you are. I have like another story that about that same time I was working at a local newspaper as a designer, like designing newspaper and this was before the web, it was like 1996 and a few of us decided to organise a social event and one guy suggested out, let's,
Starting point is 00:33:36 I hear this is this place nearby called Chingle Hall It's a really old property that's meant to be one of the most haunted places in England and so they're allowing visitors he said to do sleepovers in like groups of 12 and there's a guide there the people that live there
Starting point is 00:33:56 they kind of keep out of the way they lock themselves in their living room and they let you kind of roam around this old property and just experience all the strange goings on so we said yeah, let's organize that. And so we all arrived.
Starting point is 00:34:15 It was a winter's evening. It was dark. And I imagined some big kind of stately mansion, but it wasn't anything like that. It was a small, tiny white building, but it was very, very old. It was built in the year 2060, and it had such rich history.
Starting point is 00:34:35 through the time when the Catholic Church was being persecuted by Queen Elizabeth I think the first if I've got that right because the Catholics were trying to plot against the crown and so they were trying to hunt down Catholics this property had priest holes as they called them to hide priests away so that he didn't get arrested and persecuted and much worse you know and this house had been untouched in a lot of ways and left in its original glory, if you will. There was like a little small altar in a room,
Starting point is 00:35:17 all stung, slagged floors everywhere. You could see all these priest holes in the fireplaces. It was quite a small place. It was, I'd say, like three or four rooms downstairs on the ground level. and upstairs there was another maybe three, four rooms all wooden floors
Starting point is 00:35:39 with beams, very old and there was almost like a moat around this property with an old bridge that crossed this mount so we arrived and they sat us down and they started telling us
Starting point is 00:35:53 stories about other people that had visited there and they started showing as all these strange photographs on the wall that had been developed that property had an unusually a big amount of orb sightings around
Starting point is 00:36:09 pretty much every guest who ever took a photo of any one of the outside or any of the scenery or landscape could see orbs all different shapes, sizes, colours so there was this whole wall that was dedicated to these orb photographs
Starting point is 00:36:25 which was strange in itself because you know you expect to go to a place like that and for it to be, oh, it's a bit spooky, people tell stories, but it turned out that, you know, things were a lot more physical and just getting some kind of skies from stories, you know, things, visual evidence. And then our guide at that time, he sat us all down. And he said, there was an incident here a few weeks ago that to this day, nobody can figure out. It just freaked everybody out. There was a group of young girls visiting on a similar kind of overnight event.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And the girls, it got to like 5.30 in the morning. There was a few strange activities. People could hear things and people had heard strange sounds, but nothing to prepare people for what was going to happen. 5.28am in the morning, people were getting sleepy. People are up around the kitchen table and they're all kind of getting sleeping, falling forwards, and some of them were fast asleep, some of them were trying to stay awake. All of a sudden, they were rudely awakened by a horrific blood-curdling screen that seemed to come from everywhere around the house. Luckily, they had cassette recorder at that time recording this. And this screen just sounded like, he played us back on the screen, and you could hear it. So it was. It was a little bit of a screen.
Starting point is 00:37:57 and you could hear it. So it was just silence, and then this screen reverberated around the house, echoing everywhere, and it sounded like multiple layers over the top of each other. Do you still have that? Do you still have the recording? Fully enough, it's available on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:38:13 If you search Chingle Hall, so that's C-H-I-N-G-L-E-H-A-D-B-L-L-L-H-A-D-L-L-L-L, and you search screen with that search phrase, it actually comes up somebody's posted her. And he sent this. Can I play it real quick? Sure, yeah, that would be awesome. All right, give me one second here.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Was that the scream? Yeah. That is chilling. Yep, it's blood coddling. That is chilling. Let's hear that again. What you're hearing there is in fact, are you hearing a few of the guests speaking,
Starting point is 00:39:17 and then the screen kind of kicks in, and then it makes other people scream because of the sheer shock of it towards the end. And they sent it away to be analyzed by audio analysts. And they couldn't make any sense out of it, apparently. I just didn't. Yeah, well, I'll tell you, I mean, I heard the scream in the beginning, and then I could tell that there was other people screaming in the background then, too, and I would have as well.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But you could definitely hear that scream come in, and that is chilling. Absolutely chilling. Yeah, and that was just one of the things that sets up to be terrified for the night while staying there. We had one of the guide was saying, we had another guide that just walked out, never came back, and never said a word to anybody. They had a lot of UFO sightings, apparently. And one night, this guide used to sleep in one of the rooms after one of these tours, if you were. he was awakened in the middle of the night
Starting point is 00:40:22 and he swears that he looked over to the doorway and there was a cat-like humanoid entity in the room with its arms in front of its face and if you can imagine its arms kind of moving up and down almost like windscreen life was like in a cartoon-like fashion he said like just looking so unreal like really fast like faster than a human could and he just
Starting point is 00:40:53 bolted out of this room and never came back, never showed up for work ever again and I just thought that was such a strange story, not the traditional kind of story that a guide would tell you to scare people but just, you know, a very odd story so, you know, flash forward to our night
Starting point is 00:41:11 and then we got to something like five in the morning and nothing happened with regards to sounds or experiences but 5 in the morning again everybody was asleep apart from me and I could hear what sounded like stone slabs moving around on their own like stone being dragged upon stone
Starting point is 00:41:32 in what they called the priest room where there was this little altar and this fireplace and so I ran into this little room couldn't see anything I would run back to the this dining table where we were all sat I'd sit there again
Starting point is 00:41:49 and then I could hear as soon as I came back to that place the stone slab kind of movement grinding would start again and then I could hear banging again in what was the kitchen area and cuttlery and smashing around and so I was waking people up saying
Starting point is 00:42:04 did you hear that and then it just stopped and after that nothing really else happened after that but just such a strange event nevertheless but my girlfriend at that time who's now my life She had a best friend that also visited the property.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And she appeared on an English TV show recounting her experience. I can't remember the name of the TV shows by a guy called Michael Asper. And it was something like unsolved mysteries or something to that effect. And she recounted when her and her friends were there for some kind of charity, then, Sleepover thing. and they were all holding hands trying to communicate with something or
Starting point is 00:42:51 sounds like fashion and she had a hand push her in the shoulder like really hard and knock her and she turned around and nothing was there and so she appeared on this TV show with that and so it's very interesting
Starting point is 00:43:07 property I urge anyone to go and look it up online I don't know whether they're still accepting public visits, probably not because it was such a long time ago. But it just shows how all these really ancient properties... The other story, by the way, going back to that, is they told us that it was on multiple laylines, which anyone doesn't know what lay lines are. They're big magnetic lines that run around the world.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And the story goes that if these magnetic lines cross, then you can have paranormal experiences or UFO. old sightings are quite common or crop circles. So this was on a spot that actually crossed quite a few laylines. So yeah, fast forwarding onto other experiences that I have. I moved out of my dad's house because, to be quite honest, those experiences were getting so much in that bedroom where I couldn't sleep. I was having sleepless night week after week
Starting point is 00:44:13 only when he was away and I just wanted to move out and so my girlfriend her parents had moved out of their property they'd bought a new property and they rented out their property to us and so it was great
Starting point is 00:44:30 I had my freedom and we were setting up home together and then strange things started happening there it's like it followed me and the first strange thing that happened was we were sat in the lounge area watching TV and my wife said to me I just saw somebody in the reflection in our room
Starting point is 00:44:55 they weren't outside I could see somebody reflected behind me in the room maybe I'm just seeing things and so I just didn't I brushed it off as just yeah you know nothing a week later we were both climbing up the stairs to go to bed and the smell of rotten
Starting point is 00:45:15 meat and permeated through the whole stair and the whole ways leading up to the stairs all the way up the stairs into the bedroom and it started as rotten meat and then it turned into salt foam and then it just disappeared
Starting point is 00:45:30 which was really odd and a couple of months went by nothing nothing going on and at that point I started getting into music production. And we'd moved our bedroom into a small bedroom so that I could convert the main front bedroom into a music studio of sorts.
Starting point is 00:45:51 And at that time, I was collecting all the old Star Wars figures that I used to have when I was a kid again. I was like going around, you know, flea markets and going buying them all and trying to build out the collection. And I built these shelves onto the wall. and I'd got quite a collection of these Star Wars figures again
Starting point is 00:46:10 and some of the vehicles so they were all stood up on these shelves all lined up as you can imagine and I was sat down in the middle of the room playing on a keyboard looking at this computer and then I felt this presence somebody was watching me
Starting point is 00:46:30 just had this feeling like really eerily odd feeling it made me turn around really quickly and as soon as I turn around one by one Star Wars figure looked like it had been flicked off the shelf one at a time
Starting point is 00:46:45 one figure pop spun around into the middle of the room quite far pop flick another figure spinning around into the middle of the room one by one up to the total of like ten different Star Wars figures that had been flicked
Starting point is 00:47:01 into the middle of the room again my rational kind of brain kicked in I'm starting to think, okay, okay, I have a small fan heater. Did that come on by accident or something blow them off? No, that didn't come on. You know, I'm trying to rationalise it in any kind of way possible. And this feeling carried on for quite a few weeks of this being watched
Starting point is 00:47:24 around the house when it was on my own. And then years later, we got talking to my mother-in-law, my wife's mother who I started telling her how these experiences happen when we're living in that same house and she teared up and she said oh I had lots of experiences there and I think it was my deceased mother and because I smelt similar things to you over the years like the odd smells but once I was at the bottom of the staircase where I'd smelled the rotten meat smell and sulfur she could smell the exact same perfume that her mother had always worn her. And bringing these stories to her
Starting point is 00:48:09 made her really tear up and think, oh, something actually was weird going on, and she swore that it was her mother. And there was talk of smelling flowers that she used to have and all sorts of things like that. So that was the, that house got, demolished. We had to move out of that house because the local government, the council bought it and he raised the ground, you know, they bulldozed the house and we had to move away. I moved into
Starting point is 00:48:44 another property and I never had any issues in this property apart from like sleep paralysis issues, which was really strange. But I started visiting a friend. The same friend, who had the cottage, who's dad owned in the old cottage with all the cigarette incident, he was stopping in this house in a place called Bradford, which is in Yorkshire, another northern county, historical mill town, lots of old properties. And these properties were huge. There were like four-story properties with so many different rooms in them that students would rent them out while they were going to Bradford University. So I had a lot of friends that were stopping in this same property at that time
Starting point is 00:49:33 and I would visit them every weekend. I would go and stop with them. One weekend, they had a huge party. People were in the basement, people were in all different levels of this house, all mingling around. But then the party emptied out. It got to like one in the morning.
Starting point is 00:49:53 No one around. Everybody had gone who didn't live there. all the people had locked themselves away in the different bedrooms you can imagine all these different rooms have been converted into individual bedrooms so like what used to be the lounge or living room would be a student's bedroom
Starting point is 00:50:09 and then you'd have a flight of stairs that'd go up and then the stairs would turn and go up another level and then you'd have another couple of rooms two or three rooms that had been converted into student rooms a third level similar and then finally on the top floor where my friend's room was it was the very top which was probably used to be the attic which was converted or something and my friend was sleeping in a room with a few others there wasn't enough room and i drew the short
Starting point is 00:50:41 straw and they said to me look we're going to give you a sleeping bag you're going to have to sleep at the top of the um the stairs on this what they call the landing um the area where there was a bit of space before there was a bathroom and there was two doors so the two doors were two bedrooms, it was bathroom and I had this square little area to just crash in. So I'd gone to sleep, I was quite happy there. And then three o'clock in the morning, I was awakened with the weirdest sound I ever heard in my life. It was like somebody had done a montage and overlaid things. It was so weird.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Imagine a crowd of people, all chat. to each other all at once male, female, all different
Starting point is 00:51:32 age groups all at the same time like a cacophony of different people coming nearer
Starting point is 00:51:41 up the stairs like they were all ascending the stairs but on top of that there was a mechanical sound which was like
Starting point is 00:51:46 a whirring like and mixed with all the sound of chattering and conversation all this kind of strange sound
Starting point is 00:51:57 sound. And this just didn't sound right. I actually thought I was dreaming or just I didn't know what's thing. So my gut instinct was I jumped out of the sleeping bag, ran down one flight of stars, tried some people's doors, they were all locked, ran down another flight of stars, looked around, nobody there. I thought, oh, maybe some people had come back in from the party that had left earlier. So I checked out every level of the property. No one there. Everybody fast asleep. The house was, you know, you could hear a pin drop. Went back upstairs. So, oh, maybe I was asleep. Maybe it was a dream. I'm going to put myself back in my sleeping bag and I'm going to go back to sleep. The moment I let down again, this whirring, humming, mechanical sound started happening again.
Starting point is 00:52:53 all this chattering started up and it got louder and louder and it actually got to the point where it sounded like it was going to come up to my level and it sounded like there was literally going to be 30 people there are all chattering. I got so afraid that I locked myself in the bathroom and slept in the bathtub all night
Starting point is 00:53:14 and I just didn't know what to think so in the morning I kind of gathered myself, got up and I started almost interviewing people from the different rooms has anything strange happened? I didn't want to tell them
Starting point is 00:53:27 what had happened with me I just wanted to be totally not influence anyone so I said has anything strange ever happened
Starting point is 00:53:34 while you've been living here two girls who shared a room said yeah we get strange things going on like a posters have been ripped
Starting point is 00:53:44 off the wall one night posters being moved from one wall to another master very odd moved. Different people were telling me different
Starting point is 00:53:56 stories like this from different rooms. One guy said he'd seen shadow people in the basement one night while they were having a hangout down there. And the strange thing was, another one of my friends went and slept in the exact same room a year
Starting point is 00:54:14 later, which was just plain weird. I thought, what are the odds of that? So I asked him if anything strange you've gone on this old property and he said
Starting point is 00:54:25 yeah similar stories I never got to the bottom of what it was that experienced I hadn't got a clue it sounded beyond a normal haunting to me
Starting point is 00:54:36 something just just got my hackles up and I just thought it was the first time I started thinking about like UFOs or alien encounters and at that time
Starting point is 00:54:48 I was reading Whitley Streber and the book communion which everybody can nose and the the front cover of the book just freaked me out obviously I've seen the grey and cover you know the same imagery over the years because I've been into paranormal it got me interested in the paranormal all my experiences but something about that that book
Starting point is 00:55:09 just freaked me out so badly and I just went through a stage of utter paranoia even in this new house that we were living in I wanted to check all the closets all the time before I go to bed. I would have to sleep with lights on and things like that. And it wasn't until I left that house and went travelling. I finally got settled and didn't have this anxiety. But going back to this house that we'd moved into, it was the, we finally got married and my wife and I and we bought this house that was, what they call a semi-detached house, It was a three-bedroom. And I had my first proper, like, UFO encounter, if you will.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And something told me, something told me I knew it was going to happen. I was led on the couch looking out the window. And I just had this urge to look into the distance. We were afforded a really beautiful view out of the big bay window. I could see over what was called the Ribble Valley and we have these really huge hills in the distance that span the whole landscape and you could see in the horizon
Starting point is 00:56:36 all you can see these big hills and we have this famous hill called Pendle Hill where they used to have the famous witches of Pendle Hill and all these like folklore so we could see this view is kind of uninterrupted if you will all the way to the distance. And something told me to look and look carefully into the distance over to these hills.
Starting point is 00:57:01 We just had this sick sense. And I kept watching and watching and all of a sudden in the distance what looked like, when you look into this sense and you see a balloon or something like that or a hot air balloon, this thing was coming closer and closer.
Starting point is 00:57:16 And my gut feeling was getting stronger, if you will. It's almost like my spide sensor to kick in. And I kept watching and watching and something urged me to go out around the side of the house. And as this thing came over, it started to become evident that it wasn't a balloon. It looked physical. It looked like it had mechanical, almost markings all right. It was metallic, it was barrel shaped, it was rotating on its axis, very, very slowly. I ran to the side of the house, into the back garden, up some steps where I could get a better view.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And it came so close that it must have been a hundred foot above the house. And this thing was barrel-like. And then I noticed it had three or four, three or four, obs. I'm not sure three or four. Orbs that were metallic-looking, circling, orbiting. There was the main object, which was this barrel-like thing that you could. would see markings on and it looked metallic and it was spinning on its axis, but these orbs around the outside were orbiting it, almost like they were magnetically attached
Starting point is 00:58:34 and they were in a formation all orbiting all at the same distance apart from each other. I screamed to my wife to come out and look because I wanted to check this out because I'd been talking about paranormal stuff for a few years and I'd had a big fascination in the iPhones. So she came out around the side of the house, absolutely in disbelief and she was saying, wow, what is that? That is
Starting point is 00:59:01 crazy. It's some kind of technology. It's physically and the moment she said that all the orbs separated all at once, super fast, shot off into the distance. And then this object
Starting point is 00:59:19 slowly, very slowly, in fact, just carried. on spain and then just drifted off into the distance. At that point I was kicking myself not to go and go. I had a really good camera, a XLR camera, and I just wished I'd have gone and took some snaps. I didn't have any video equipment at that time. Mobile phones were still in the old Nokia stage.
Starting point is 00:59:47 She didn't have decent video on or anything like that. but I had the corroboration of another witness and it just blew my mind and at that point I realized that you know it wasn't just things I've read about that something strange is out there and something that
Starting point is 01:00:08 could it have been military technology yes I suppose so we had a local aerospace company at a place called Sarmesbury and it was called BAE Systems British Air aerospace, something else systems.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And they're known for doing like projects. Maybe they do like secret projects and stealth craft. Who knows? But this kind of, that's one of the go-to things that I thought of could have been some experimental craft. Who knows? But like with these orbs, you know, I'd heard all the stories of years.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I've been a UFO researcher for years. I'd heard the stories of orbiting, like, orbs and things like that around. I've seen the videos ever since. The strange thing is, many years later on YouTube, I saw a person posted a sighting of what looked like there was a kid playing in the backyard and this object had come down. It almost like came down and it was almost like interested in this kid like looking at playing in his backyard and this,
Starting point is 01:01:16 it looked very similar this object to what I'd seen. And then I'd seen some other. clips over the years, like some things filmed in Nevada and some strange things, and they all look very similar to me. And then I started researching things like this Black Knight satellite. I don't know if you've ever heard of that. Yeah, I've heard of it. I don't know a ton about it, but I've heard a lot about it. It's just, it's one of those things where there's so much speculation about it. I'm not sure what details to go with. And yeah, so I started researching the Black Knight. And the the vague kind of imagery that I could see of it looked very similar to what I'd seen in other words.
Starting point is 01:02:00 It was the technology didn't look like it was manmade. It just looked too abstract and too strange and all the markings on it. And it just looked like nothing. You know, a person couldn't be on board this thing, the way it was operating. It was just too abstract. and my gut feeling was it was some kind of probe or, you know, this was years before drones existed. But it just looked like something like that, very, very strange. And this reminded me of another incident that I'd forgotten about, that the same cottage that with the cigarette incidents, with it lighting upon its own, when his father was renovating that property, he had scaffolding on the outside of the house, which was,
Starting point is 01:02:46 leading to the rooftop. So me and my friend and another friend would spend all summer just sat on top of this rooftop just staring at this same valley that I was talking about before that this other property looked out onto.
Starting point is 01:03:01 For some reason, we all have this fascination with this valley and this hills in the distance. We just watched and watched. When it was night, we'd just stare up at the stars and look for satellites coming past. One summer's day,
Starting point is 01:03:13 we were all staring just for some reason. I don't. We're just talking to each other, having, you know, telling some jokes.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And we're all looking in the same place. And there's this grassy hill in the distance, this huge hill. And we all noticed at the same
Starting point is 01:03:30 time, a metal disc slowly ascend just above hill level, just enough so that you could see the top of the
Starting point is 01:03:41 disc to realize that it was a dome shape disc, traditional, classic metal UFO-looking thing. and this hill was so far in the distance this thing must have been huge
Starting point is 01:03:51 and as soon as we'd noticed it it very slowly descended below the the line of the hill so it was not visible anymore and we looked at each other and said did you see that? Yeah yeah I saw that my friend said it just slowly came up
Starting point is 01:04:10 and as soon as it had come up it went back down again and yeah there were only two major UFO incidents where, you know, both had corroboration and eyewitnesses. And after that, I didn't have any other paranormal experiences per se, but I had a lot of weird sleep paralysis, waking up in the middle of the night,
Starting point is 01:04:42 jumping up, bolts up, right, talking in my sleep. things like that my wife would be really freaked out she'd be waking up saying what's going on what the hell are you doing you know you just sat up upright in bed
Starting point is 01:04:57 for no reason and you were just talking to somebody and you're really scaring me like what's going on and I'd have these strange nights where I'd wake up and the peripheral vision I'd see shapes coming down from the ceiling
Starting point is 01:05:12 it looked like almost mechanical spider contraptions of you coming down from the ceiling above. And I'd just put it down to, oh, you know, I was having some kind of weird nightmares and stuff like that. But this carried on.
Starting point is 01:05:28 We went travelling around the world. We went to Australia. And I had a very strange event in Australia. We were touring up and down the coast of Australia. We stopped at a place called Surfers Paradise. and we rented an apartment for the night and it was just like a traditional block of apartments you know nothing special just running the mill
Starting point is 01:05:53 and it had a really nice big living room it had a kitchen and a bedroom but it had this bathroom that I just got a really weird feeling about as soon as I walked into the property something drew me to the bathroom and I went to go for the door and the door was locked from the inside and I couldn't figure this out
Starting point is 01:06:14 this was like freak you so I tried a few times and my wife was saying oh just leave it you know we've got another bathroom attached to the bedroom it's fine something was setting all the heckles
Starting point is 01:06:27 on my arms off and making me really freaked out something about this bathroom I was so uneasy I couldn't sleep I was up in the middle of the night it was like something odded happening in that bathroom I just had this six sense
Starting point is 01:06:41 the next day in the morning I went to the same bathroom and the door opened absolutely no problem went in and I just felt cold like something's happened in this room like something really odd and I couldn't put my finger on it couldn't figure out what was the deal with that just another weird incident in the catalogue of strange occurrences
Starting point is 01:07:08 of my life you know and then I think the final incident I had, I've been good for like years like, I'd say 10 years I've had no experiences, thank goodness, you know. But we moved to Spain after travelling around the world for a while and toured in Australia. We moved to Spain for a few years where I worked as a designer. We set up from small design business in Spain. and we lived in this one apartment and I started seeing out the corner of my
Starting point is 01:07:43 we sat watching TV and I looked to my right and I could see what looked like movement in the hallway where there was a doorway and it led to a big hallway and the bedroom was on one side of the hallway
Starting point is 01:07:58 and then the kitchen door was on the other and it looked like somebody was walking from bedroom through the hallway through into the kitchen and I started noticing more and more. I just put it down through, oh, nothing I was imagining things. And then again, I could see shadows in the corner of my eye. And then I started to look more in more detail and I could see actual physical black shadowy figures walking from one side to the other
Starting point is 01:08:25 into the kitchen. And I said to my wife, did you see that? Did you see that? And she said, no, no, I didn't see anything. And this kept happening all the time, like every the night there. And then we were renting this place and they had to move us. We were tenants in this place. The landlord kicked us out and we went into another property and subsequently after that I felt really comfortable in this of the property and no more experiences and that was the last time I had any of these strange experiences really. But when I do look back, it's such a catalogue of weird things and whether there's a
Starting point is 01:09:05 connection between them all, whether, I don't know, I have no idea. I just know that there's some mind-bending stuff and some things that I can't explain to this day. And some of the things of the cigarette thing story, when I tell people, they look at me like I've got two heads. Like, what are you talking about? That's just insane. I don't even believe it to this day. It was so bizarre. But yeah, very, very odd. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you've had tons of experiences throughout your life. And, you know, when we first started this interview, I was thinking, you know, maybe we could lend a hand as to, you know, somebody who is listening to the stories and, you know, outside perspective as to maybe how this
Starting point is 01:09:53 kind of all unfolded for you throughout your life. But the more I heard it, I was like, this is just a jam-packed life filled with experiences. And some of, excuse me, and some of it maybe, you know, was brought on in the sense of the investigations and the scream kind of thing. But some of it is just very sheer happenstance. Do you have any inkling as to why you had so many experiences at one point in your life, but now it seems like it died off? Yeah, a couple of things. I think going through the trauma of losing a mother at an early age at 13, 14,
Starting point is 01:10:30 and then I surrounded myself with a lot of friends to deal with it. and I didn't come to terms with it for quite a few years. I just dealt with it by doing the things I loved, like music and skateboarding and things like that, and I had a huge wide circle of friends. And when my father moved to this little small mill town in this awful property with no sunlight, and I was so depressed.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I'd lost contact with all my friends. I didn't have transport at that time. So I used to see my friends every night. I was isolated. He was away, obviously truck driving for a couple of nights of the week. I'd started working in a job that I was very
Starting point is 01:11:19 unhappy with in this kind of small print place. My only escaping life was seeing my girlfriend at that time. I've known my girlfriend since college and we've been married years and she was the only kind of anchor had. And so when she came around, it was like a breath of fresh air. I got to escape this
Starting point is 01:11:42 miserable life, if you will. And you know, when you hear stories, don't you, of like people going through trauma or especially like polter guys, you hear of young girls going through puberty or difficult times in the life and then these events happen, what always springs to my mind is going through such emotion, such turmoil, that it might have triggered or made me more sensitive to things, perhaps, or, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:11 perhaps there was some kind of haunting there that was related to that. I don't claim to know. And then going forward later in life, like why it hasn't happened now, it's because, possibly, because, well, a couple of things, I'm content,
Starting point is 01:12:28 I'm happy. I don't ever think about, things like that I've got my routines in life. I'm not so, you know, in a bad place as I was, if you will. And the other thing is I found my religion again. Like I got brought up at a school, which was a Catholic school.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I wasn't Catholic myself, but I was very close to the church. And I was very close to, I used to go to the Sunday services, and I used to love all, everything about. I used to be envious of the kids that had the rosary beads even and wanted to do communion, and always wish that I could be involved in that.
Starting point is 01:13:12 And I think throughout the time when I needed that the most, I've become most detached from faith, if you will, with a lot of dark things happening in my life. And then I think as I've grown older, I found my faith again and learned to sort of almost talk to God as a child would again and just have that unwavering belief that there's something there. And that's given me great comfort. And I think, you know, could that be a connection, possibly, the fact that I surround myself with that now?
Starting point is 01:14:00 I don't know. I mean, that's for everybody else to decide really, but it certainly could be a factor. I'd like to think so. I'd like to think that, you know, we have divine protection from scary and crazy things in life. Yeah, I kind of understand what you're saying, man. You know, I think a lot of times perspectives come from life experiences. and though it's a perspective, I think that with your situation and many other people's situations with the paranormal, the life experiences that we see around us also contribute to the paranormal
Starting point is 01:14:41 type experiences that we have. And it's all through, I'm having a hard time saying what I'm trying to think of here, but it's all through your perspective. So you have these experiences happening to you, but your perspective as to what happened in your life attributing to that is the only definition we can run with. Does that make sense at all? I mean, it's just, I put a lot of weight and value in people's perspectives when it comes to how they view their experiences and also why they went through those experiences. Because you know who you are. You know why you think a certain way. And I do think that you as who you are, why you are,
Starting point is 01:15:23 why you think a certain way and what you believe do contribute to how you define your paranormal experiences, but also contribute to why they even happened. And I think that you might be on to something there. Yeah, totally. One other strange, totally unrelated story springs to mine. It's actually from my wife. This is totally on a tangent. But do you remember at the time when Princess Diana died? Yeah. Was it 97? Yeah, so we went out for a meal. It was a week before that happened and we were just eating
Starting point is 01:15:59 and my wife looks at me and she says Princess Diana is going to be killed and I looked at her and I said, what? And she said, it was almost like automatic thing coming out of the mouth she just said it for no reason. I said, what on earth do you mean?
Starting point is 01:16:16 She said it just seems so obvious. She's going to die very soon. just the way things are going and then she didn't even know why she said it and then a week later in the house where we had the incident with all the star figures popping off the shelf that we just moved into
Starting point is 01:16:33 when we were quite young she came running into the bedroom early in the morning and said white as a sheet and she said I can't believe it she's died she's died just like I said and that's just another kind of strange story that I've just remembered now
Starting point is 01:16:49 which adds another aspect to it, you know, not UFO, not paranormal haunting, but how people could do such a thing and come out with such a weird thing. And I've had incidents like that myself. I used to visit my grandmother in what she had this like shed over 55's accommodation, and I was walking around the outside of the property past a garden, past her neighbour's house, and I had a voice in my head saying Mrs. whatever she was called, Mrs. Robinson's died.
Starting point is 01:17:25 And she opened the door and said Mrs. Robinson's died. And it was like, I literally just thought of it two minutes before she just told me. And I really believe that we have an ability to tap into things that maybe the human race has lost
Starting point is 01:17:45 perhaps over the years and maybe people get lucky enough to just tap into these things, who knows, but these things have happened. I can't explain them. But very, very strange. Yeah, well, definitely strange. And I think I said this to you before we even started interviewing.
Starting point is 01:18:04 You know, I haven't experienced half the things you guys have experienced on the show. I mean, I've had certain things here and there happen to me, but nothing on a level of what, you, like what you just described where, uh, you went through many different experiences, not just paranormal, not just with, uh, one particular quote unquote type of entity, but just really peppered throughout your life. And I, I've never experienced stuff like that. And I'm always fascinated by it. And now you're telling me about your wife and basically predicting Princess Diana's death. Uh, I find that very fascinating. It's like sometimes I wonder if there's something, I don't,
Starting point is 01:18:45 I feel goofy saying it like this, but it makes me wonder sometimes if there's some type of engineered life around us, a matrix. Yeah. It's like, did your wife just experience a glitch in the matrix where she felt, at least felt, because she probably would have said if she saw something, but she at least felt what she was going to feel in a week, a week early. It's weird. Yeah, it lends to the thought that everything's happening all at once.
Starting point is 01:19:15 all that kind of idea. And whether every now and again we slip out of the perception of how we perceive time and just maybe get a glimpse of things accidentally. Who knows? But there's certainly, there's enough evidence to suggest that a lot of people have been through these kind of similar experiences
Starting point is 01:19:42 and things are not quite as we've seen. as they seem and yeah who knows yeah oh i mean i don't i don't pretend to know uh i'm just the guy that hosts conversations and enjoys hearing stories uh but i'll tell you what man i do appreciate coming on the show and sharing these experiences i i find them interesting man uh it sometimes people just have stories that are sprinkled throughout their life and and you're one of those guys and uh the fact that they're they're not or that the fact that they are that they are seemingly done now and the way you view why they're done, I find comfort in that. Personally, for me, I look at your life and I find comfort of that and I hope you do too. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:20:26 And to be honest, I'd never even thought of half of these experiences until I thought about coming on the show. And then I started making notes and then that gave way to other experiences coming up from the subconscious that I totally forgot about. And that was cathartic and itself just being able to offload all these experiences and just recount them to somebody because instead of carrying them around, you know, it's good to be able to tell them to an audience that into this kind of stuff and that, you know, it doesn't just look at you and think, oh, you must be crazy, you know, and what are you talking about? And subsequently, it's got me absolutely fascinated in anything paranormal, hauntings, or you know, you.
Starting point is 01:21:15 name it, conspiracies. I research everything these days. I'm probably just as fascinated as most of the audiences. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where you shared or how you share it. Just share the show with your friends if you enjoyed it because that's the best thing you can do to help the show grow. And if you can, go ahead to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the store page and check out all the cool stuff we offer merchandise-wise. We have beard oils, custom woodmaking stuff with the Confessionals logo, and of course, t-shirts, hoodies, mugs, stickers, all that fun stuff on the Confessionalspodcast.com. And until next week, friends, stay safe, take care. And I really do
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