The Confessionals - RELOADED | 282: Insane Paranormal Tales From the U.K.
Episode Date: October 2, 2023In Episode 282: Insane Paranormal Tales From the U.K., we have the pleasure of being joined by Marcus, hailing from the United Kingdom. Marcus takes us on a captivating journey through the numerous pa...ranormal encounters he has experienced in his local area. Among these remarkable tales is an eerie incident that includes an unsettling audio recording capturing a spine-chilling scream.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinCome Meet Tony:LIVE SHOW in Gatlinburg, TN!Tickets: https://bit.ly/3IC4IkxWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals60" for 60% off plus free shipping!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel
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I guess it's time
To go back in time
Are you telling me
You built a time machine
Out of a Dolion
Time is but a stubborn
illusion
I have a lot of memories
Of the past
People are time
traveling within themselves
Time travel
Is possible
This was all circulating
Around the base
that a giant had been killed
but no one was supposed to talk about it.
Boney fingers, reach up
underneath the door, curl up to grab it
and then disappear.
When he came over to me,
dude, he slithered over to me.
A giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing
at this giant. With a giant move,
he's got a spear in one hand
and he's running really fast.
And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.
somebody else shoot them in the face shoot them in the face they basically decapitated something pulling at my
leg and I look over and there are two small and they're literally pushed and because I know I'm seeing
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coming on the show. And Marcus has a lot of insane paranormal tales to share from the U.S.
Okay, today we got Marcus on the show from the UK.
Marcus from the UK, how are you doing, man?
Hey, pretty good, thanks.
How are you?
I'm doing great, man.
So, you know, I don't get a ton of people coming on the show from the UK.
I know we got a lot of listeners in the UK, but not a whole lot of them reach out and stuff.
So this is a call to all my UK listeners.
If you have a story you want to share and stuff, go ahead and contact me like Marcus did,
because we'll definitely bring you on the show to share your experiences as well.
Marcus, you have a ton of experiences throughout your life.
And it starts in your childhood, right?
That's right, yeah.
It starts in my childhood, and it goes all through my teenage years.
And for some strange reason, it ends in my mid-20s.
But yeah, some mind-bending things, some things that I can't explain to this day.
So, yeah.
Yeah, so let's just get.
it going right now then with your childhood and start walking us into these first experiences
you had and how that progresses throughout your life because I do find it interesting that
these experiences seem to have stopped at some point and I'm curious as to maybe hearing
about how these things unfold and maybe that will show some detail as to why they stopped.
I'm not sure, but let's hear it out.
Yeah, so basically I grew up on a farm in the north of England, you know,
a place called Lancashire, which is a county, not too far away from Manchester.
A lot of people might know Manchester, Manchester United, the football team.
So this farm that we lived on was in the middle of nowhere.
It was a huge old 16th century stone farmhouse with a lot of land around it, no streetlights
for miles, and a nearest neighbor was probably about four miles away.
and so, you know, it could be a pretty creepy place, as it is on its own.
But I first started, odd things first started happening when, I think when it was a toddler,
for some reason I was always afraid to sleep in my bedroom.
My mother and father would have sleepless nights because I just refused to sleep in my room.
and it was very odd.
I had lots of different incidents.
Names being called out when no one was in the house.
I could hear my name being shouted from downstairs.
Ran downstairs.
No one was around.
No was in the kitchen.
I could see out of the window
and my mother and father were across in the field opposite.
So that was the first experience I had
where I was questioning the nature of reality, if you will, at a very young age.
And then the next experience I could remember, it all revolved around the bedroom that I was
sleeping in when I think back about the incident.
And I think I was probably about five years old.
All of a sudden, I was woken up in the middle of the night with a huge bank.
and I had three shelves on the wall, on the head,
the wall where my head was,
there was three shelves above me
and it had all my board games on toys from when I was a kid.
And every single board game
literally flew off the shelf and buried me in the bed.
And my mother came racing in,
screaming to my dad, like,
what's going on, what's going on?
And I remember like pulling myself,
from under all these board games,
thinking, wow, what just happened?
And it's very odd because
I remember being moved out of that bedroom
into a spare room.
And I just didn't think anything of it at that age
because, you know, you don't have to question things like that.
You don't know.
It was strange.
I wouldn't go back into my own bedroom,
even to play with my toys.
And at the time, it just seemed so normal.
But looking back, with hindsight,
it seems really strange.
And my bedroom would always feel ice cold compared to the other room that I'd stop in often.
And I was, oh, whenever I did go back into that bedroom, I'd find myself in the middle of the night
in the same bed as my mother and father, much to my father's annoyance.
He would end up sleeping in my room and eventually I'd give him sleepless nights.
but there was something that just made me petrified about this bedroom.
And eventually, you know, I grew a bit older.
I was like 10 years old.
And on an unrelated topic to the haunting style of things that was going on,
my mother called to me that there was strange light outside the window.
So our living room at the back of the front,
farm overlooked miles of meadowland and there was a valley looking down.
And so we had what's called a telegraph pole, which is like the telegraph pole fed the farm line to the house.
And using that as a visual marker, you could see a huge circular light in the sky.
And it was almost like a Simon Seitz with the different colors in each corner.
So you have the red, yellow.
green, blue.
And my mother shouted to me.
My dad was actually out that evening.
My mum shouted,
hey, come and have a look at this.
This is really strange.
It doesn't look like a star.
So I had a look.
And this weird light with different colors all twinkling
was moving in a square formation.
And you could see where this telegraph pole was.
it would move down, across to the right, up to the left, down in a square formation over and over and over.
And it just kept going for about half an hour.
And my father eventually returned.
And my mother called him over and said, you know, this is really strange.
It doesn't look like anything, like a star.
You know, it's not the pole star.
It's not Venus.
It looks too close.
and yeah that that was like my first UFO encounter
and then after that I'd have really strange recurring dreams
in that bedroom especially
I have recurring dreams like at the front of the house
we had a huge yard that led up to a big stone barn
and I'd have these dreams that there were
a gathering of children all holding hands
and there were these kind of guardians
overlooking us and teaching us
and teachers to sing things and to learn things
and this dream happened over and over
and the strange thing was
whenever I awoke from one of these dreams
I was so restless
that I'd be out of my bed
on the floor with the covers absolutely tangled around me
which really freaked me out
and these dreams.
these dreams carried on for quite a few years.
And then after that, my mum got ill, unfortunately, she got cancer.
So we had to move to my grandparents' house, which was in a neighbouring city.
But it was a very old house, fun enough.
It was a stable that had been converted into a house.
was actually all the old stables had been totally converted into a,
the front of the house was a cottage and the back of the house was old stables,
but they'd converted it all into a property and joined it all.
There was some tales originally when the workers there
that there was some strange happenings and some banging and people could hear voices,
but nobody really thought of anything of it.
When I was stopping there,
and I was stopping in the same room as my grandfather,
There was two single beds.
So I was in a single bed.
My grandfather was in a single bed.
My grandmother was sleeping in a double bed with my mother in another room.
And I was fast asleep.
It must have been about two in the morning.
And I got violently awoken with what felt like somebody literally pulling my face out of the bed.
And it was so shocking and viscered.
I opened my eyes
and I thought it must have been somebody
trying to warm me or something
could it have been a fire or an emergency or something
but when I opened my eyes
all I could see was a hazy blur in front of me
and this panicked me even more so
and so I started pulling away
and it was almost like suction pulling me out to the side of the bad
and I had to pull with all my might
to get free of it
and when I did my adrenaline
kicked in so hard.
I just ran out of the room, down the stairs,
breathing heavily and just sat there.
I didn't know what to do or just took me about half an hour to process what happened.
So I ran back up the stairs in this small little cottage,
peaked tentatively around the door to see nothing there.
My grandfather's fast asleep.
For some reason I didn't wake him up.
I don't know why.
A lot of people would have just freaked out
and woken up anybody near them
and said what happened.
For some reason I kept it to myself
and I just stopped up all night downstairs
in an armchair
and just thought about it
and tried to come to terms with what on earth it was.
That was the experience of that.
And then
after that,
unfortunately my mum didn't make the battle with the cancer so she died when I was really younger
like 13 14 and my dad was a truck driver just like yourself and he was away quite a few nights
he was delivering pet food around the country I had a girlfriend at that time I think this was
was I must have been about what 18 and my dad had moved to
just to this small town in the middle of nowhere.
I lost touch with all my friends.
I was quite unhappy for obvious reasons
because the depression of kind of losing your mother
at such an early age.
I built myself a whole group of friends.
I used to skateboard.
I had this big circle of friends
and then to be moved away from all that
into this town that was quite in hospice.
a really small what they call terrorist house which just seemed very odd from the outset as soon
as we moved in there I was very unhappy but I didn't know why I just I never felt such unease
and I'd met my my wife who I've been married to for a long time I met her at college
we both met at art college and I'd started
dating her at the time.
So my dad would be away
maybe
Tuesdays, Wednesdays, every week.
So my
girlfriend would come around
at that time and we'd just hang
out and watch Telly, her friends had come around
as well.
We'd watch, you know, a few shows
back then.
And they're just hanging out
really like usual.
And then what the
strange thing was, was every time that she would go and get and call a cab to go home,
there was a strange surface smell started to appear throughout the whole house. And I said to her,
she was just waiting for a cab and I said, do you smell that? And she said, yeah, it's like
somebody's just struck a match, but it's everywhere. And that carried on for maybe a few weeks.
always the same night
never when my father was in
like clockwork
and then things started to get worse
so for instance
again my girlfriend would come round
and by the time like say
11 o'clock she was getting a cab home
the sofa smell
but then a mist or haze
would start to fill
the room
we had two rooms on the ground floor
there was like what we call the front room which led out to the street and then we had a back
room which was more like lounge and a kitchen and you could see this mist almost a hazy mist gathering
from the back room and almost coming forward into the front room and I just thought it was my
imagination and she was going out of the door into the cab at that time and this thing was like
clockwork it was almost as if it was waiting for people to be out of the house and then
gradually over the weeks
all hell would break loose.
It went from
just the sofa smell
to the haze
through to
noises that I could hear
so I would literally be
in bed
watching a small portable TV
back then
and I could hear
banging downstairs
like what seemed like
in the kitchen
cutlery in the drawer
would
almost seem like it was being rattled
so I would run downstairs to have to check things out to see no nothing couldn't see anything no on there
draw was exactly how it should be so this started to really unnerve me and I ran back in the bedroom
and it made me want to barricade myself in my room it got that bad so I had this huge board
that I used to use as a like a drawing board like a huge piece of wood and I lodged that up against my
door handle because things had started
freed me out that much
and I would sit bolt up right in my bed
afraid to go to sleep
then strange things started happening
like the TV
the signal would go off
intermittently static would be
on screen for two minutes
and then the picture would come back on
and again you could hear the rattling
and the banging downstairs
and this was
like on a
regular schedule like clockwork every time my father would be away in his long distance
lorry driving this would happen as soon as i was in the house on my own and eventually um
there was an episode where it's almost like this whatever it was whether it would call it an entity or a
a poltergeist or whatever who knows but it's almost like it was getting more daring and it wasn't
waiting until I was on my own. My girlfriend was there one Wednesday and we were both sat downstairs
at about 10 in the evening and we both heard this huge bang. It was like the house shook and we both
interpreted it in totally different ways. I ran into the kitchen. She ran upstairs to the bathroom and then
she didn't notice anything but I kind of went upstairs and then she ran upstairs and then she ran
downstairs having a look around because we thought maybe somebody broke in the house.
And then I went into the bathroom and I noticed something really strange.
We had the usual small bathroom.
It was a configuration of a toilet, a small bathtub with a window.
And the toilet, on the top of the toilet where the flushing mechanism was, there was a small
bowl of porpoeree, you know, the stuff that's like makes the house smell nice.
it's all the dried kind of petals or whatever.
Now, this bowl had been flipped almost
and it was in the bathtub, which was about two foot away.
And the whole room was filled for this debris of all this poultry.
But this popery had actually gone on the shelf above the toilet as well,
which really freaked me out because, you know,
it was kind of defining the laws of physics.
it was like if somebody had knocked that over
then surely it would have just dropped onto the floor
how on earth the actual dish
had gone from the top of the toilet
into the bathtub and then the petals
dried whatever flowers or whatever they were
how that ended up on a shelf
like a foot higher just baffled me
and these things just kept carrying on
all these weird kind of incidents all the time.
And it's almost like this thing was following me around
because then I started to have strange occurrences at friends' houses,
whether it be local friends that I had or friends,
even in total different counties or towns.
It's like something had attached to me or was following me around.
And it wasn't until years later that I pieced all these things together and tried to make sense of it.
Because at the time, a lot of these incidents were so far apart that you didn't put them together in any kind of catalog and try and make sense of it.
I always kind of sense that I must have been very sensitive to paranormal things and I must have been,
something must have attached me almost or made me able to be able to.
able to see things or experience things that others couldn't.
And the next kind of event that happened
that was incredibly strange.
It just gets stranger as it goes along.
I had a friend, a best friend at that time.
We met through skateboarding and we both went to art college.
He lived about a couple of miles away up the road.
and I was visiting him
and he lived with his father
and his stepmother
and it was an incredibly old cottage
it was like a Tudor
cottage from like 1600s
or something like that
and his father was
renovating a property at the time
and so half of the rooms were in
disrepair
a lot of scaffolding around the outside of the house
some rooms
were just woodboards
others were good to live in
and the walls were kind of a stone
not cement or
wallpaper but the original stone
from La Vera
and we were in his bedroom
and there was a stone
alcove dug into the wall if you will
and he was showing me
he was at the end of his
year in college and he had a
almost like an exam to do, if you will,
where he had to submit some pieces of artwork.
And he was getting my opinion on them.
And so he put this painting up on the wall,
like this canvas, and he rested it on the wall.
And at that time, I used to smoke.
And I had a pack of mulberry, so I took a mulberry out,
passed him one
and at that time
he said oh will you just check this
piece of artwork I've done up
and tell me what do you think it's worthy
of
submitting to this final review
for the end of the year
so I hadn't even lit a cigarette
at that point
I walked over to this stone shelf
place the cigarette down
on the shelf
and it was kind of hanging half off
half on the shelf
but sturdy enough on that
so I walked over to
to where my friend was stood
and we started critiquing this painting
and all of a sudden
we both heard this huge sound
that just sounded like this
and it was
but at the same time it was so striking
so startling
the window
kind of came open
there was a latch on the window opened and the window came open at the same time, which really made us jump out of the skin.
And then this noise followed by a sulphur smell instantly made us turn her heads straight away.
And as soon as we turned her heads to the shelf, the cigarette looked like somebody had flicked it with the index finger and the thumb like you traditionally do a flick.
and it spun about three foot above the shelf spinning into the air and this was the freaky thing
in the air it lit and then landed on the floor so when it when it when it it wasn't lit before
it went in the air but as it was in the air it lit exactly and there wasn't any flame or anything
nearby nothing very interesting oh it was so freaky that me it was so freaky that me
Me and my friend, we are just primal instincts kinked in,
and we ran out of the room, down the stairs,
through the living room, through the kitchen,
out the back door, around the front of the property,
across the other side of the street,
and we're just staring up at his bedroom window in shock,
and we were looking each other,
and we were saying to each other,
did that just happen?
And he was like, yeah, the cigarette just flicked and lit itself up.
And I said, yeah, that's what I saw.
And we spent 10 minutes trying to rationalise it to each other
before tentatively going back up into that room to try and analyze it like a crime scene.
And we couldn't accept the reality of that because it just seemed too far out.
How could ever that happen?
It just is impossible.
So we were trying to rationalise it with events,
it might have caused it
you know like oh could it have been
a gas leak
a spark
could there have been a lightning strike
and that blown the window open
just any kind of rational thing
could a lighter nearby
have exploded
and we didn't notice
and all these kind of things
but there was no light in nearby
so
this you know it was one of these
incidents where it was really freaky
but like your brain just ended up rationalising it and storing it away.
And then other things started to happen in that property,
which put perspective to the cigarette incident almost.
And the first thing that happened was it was confirmation from his stepmother,
that not herself.
So it made us think that something was going on that house.
she was an artist too
and she would do a lot of painting
a lot of oil painting
and in one of these rooms
that was still being renovated
she had a lot of canvases
on easels
and she had a lot of blank
canvases on the floor
and she just nipped out
to go and make a cup of coffee
downstairs
and all her canvases
were neatly stacked up
you know on the floor
against a wall
but she came back in the room
and a lot of these canvases were lodged in a drawer of this cabinet
like if you imagine a long horizontal draw
and you imagine that the drawer had been opened
and canvases have been vertically lodged by the corners
and jammed in the drawer so that they were stuck upright
and this really freaks her out
and she hadn't told us this until my friend had started talking about
some of the experiences that he had and I had
and also some of her other friends had
well visiting the proxy
one of her other friends
visited and he was in the bathroom
brushing his teeth
and something startled him and came past the window
it looked like a figure
hurtling down
like almost falling vertically past the window
and the only thing that he could
possibly describe
it as was like a shadowy figure
looked like it was hanging itself.
He just double takes and it really freaked
him out. He came
running out and told my friend at that time
and
all these stories started
to come out about this prophecy.
And then
other nights, I was
stopping there overnight. I used to stop
there. We used to watch
like anime's or play
video games and
almost a bit about 20, 22 or something at that point.
And then in the middle of the night,
my phone was always really restless.
He was an insomniac,
and often I'd find myself awakening in the night
to find that he wasn't around.
He was out of his bed, he was downstairs, watching TV
because he couldn't sleep.
So that was normal.
But this night,
I was awakened by breath on my ear
and a voice whispering
and it said
what are you doing
what are you doing
and I quickly turn around
thinking it was my friend
and I said what
what you know
what do you want
and I turn around
and there was nobody there
and this really
startled me
and so the first thought
was as he quickly
just walked out of the room
is he playing a prank on me
so I ran downstairs
and the stairs
were big enough
for him not to have got enough
lead to go, I would have heard him running down the stairs if that was the case, went downstairs,
he was absolutely fast asleep on the chair, and went back upstairs, and was afraid to go back
to sleep that night because it's just so weird, and the physical sensation of breath in your ear
and just this foreboding, you know, what are you doing kind of voice? It just really freaked me out.
and it was then I started to think is am I attracting all this or you know is it just that
are all these houses that were in just so old and just so rich full of history
I started to question at that point and then we had some more conversation uh confirmation
from his old cottage that we were renovating uh I think it was his father had
gone out of the main bedroom where they slept.
I mean, my friend's stepmother,
they'd come back into the bedroom
and all the books and CDs were stacked up
in the middle of the room
in a huge vertical pile
and so it's very evident at that point
that, you know, it was like poltergeist activity
and so there must have been
some event or incident
and maybe in the past that caused this place to be very haunted indeed.
You know, maybe with my friend seeing this person at all, he hung himself.
Maybe there was a troubled spirit there and who knows.
And yeah, so that was the kind of, that brings to a close.
My friends haunted historic cottage, if you are.
I have like another story that about that same time
I was working at a local newspaper
as a designer, like designing newspaper
and this was before the web, it was like 1996
and a few of us decided to organise a social event
and one guy suggested out, let's,
I hear this is this place nearby called Chingle Hall
It's a really old property
that's meant to be one of the most haunted places in England
and so they're allowing visitors
he said to do sleepovers
in like groups of 12
and there's a guide there
the people that live there
they kind of keep out of the way
they lock themselves in their living room
and they let you kind of roam around this old property
and just experience
all the strange goings on
so we said
yeah, let's organize that.
And so we all arrived.
It was a winter's evening.
It was dark.
And I imagined some big kind of stately mansion,
but it wasn't anything like that.
It was a small, tiny white building,
but it was very, very old.
It was built in the year 2060,
and it had such rich history.
through the time when the Catholic Church was being persecuted by Queen Elizabeth I think the first
if I've got that right because the Catholics were trying to plot against the crown
and so they were trying to hunt down Catholics
this property had priest holes as they called them to hide priests away
so that he didn't get arrested and persecuted and much worse you know
and this house had been untouched in a lot of ways
and left in its original glory, if you will.
There was like a little small altar in a room,
all stung, slagged floors everywhere.
You could see all these priest holes in the fireplaces.
It was quite a small place.
It was, I'd say, like three or four rooms downstairs on the ground level.
and upstairs
there was another
maybe three, four rooms
all wooden floors
with beams, very old
and there was almost like
a moat around this property
with an old bridge
that crossed this mount
so we arrived
and they sat us down
and they started telling us
stories
about other people
that had visited there
and they started showing
as all these strange photographs
on the wall that had been developed
that property had an unusually
a big amount of orb sightings around
pretty much every guest
who ever took a photo
of any one of the outside
or any of the scenery or landscape
could see orbs
all different shapes, sizes, colours
so there was this whole wall
that was dedicated to these orb photographs
which was strange in itself
because you know
you expect to go
to a place like that and for it to be, oh, it's a bit spooky, people tell stories, but it turned
out that, you know, things were a lot more physical and just getting some kind of skies from stories,
you know, things, visual evidence. And then our guide at that time, he sat us all down. And he said,
there was an incident here a few weeks ago that to this day, nobody can figure out. It just freaked
everybody out. There was a group of young girls visiting on a similar kind of overnight event.
And the girls, it got to like 5.30 in the morning. There was a few strange activities. People could
hear things and people had heard strange sounds, but nothing to prepare people for what was going
to happen. 5.28am in the morning, people were getting sleepy. People are up around the kitchen
table and they're all kind of getting sleeping, falling forwards, and some of them were
fast asleep, some of them were trying to stay awake. All of a sudden, they were rudely awakened
by a horrific blood-curdling screen that seemed to come from everywhere around the house.
Luckily, they had cassette recorder at that time recording this. And this screen just sounded
like, he played us back on the screen, and you could hear it. So it was. It was a little bit of a screen.
and you could hear it.
So it was just silence,
and then this screen reverberated around the house,
echoing everywhere,
and it sounded like multiple layers over the top of each other.
Do you still have that?
Do you still have the recording?
Fully enough, it's available on YouTube.
If you search Chingle Hall,
so that's C-H-I-N-G-L-E-H-A-D-B-L-L-L-H-A-D-L-L-L-L,
and you search screen with that search phrase,
it actually comes up somebody's posted her.
And he sent this.
Can I play it real quick?
Sure, yeah, that would be awesome.
All right, give me one second here.
Was that the scream?
Yeah.
That is chilling.
Yep, it's blood coddling.
That is chilling.
Let's hear that again.
What you're hearing there is in fact,
are you hearing a few of the guests speaking,
and then the screen kind of kicks in,
and then it makes other people scream because of the sheer shock of it towards the end.
And they sent it away to be analyzed by audio analysts.
And they couldn't make any sense out of it, apparently.
I just didn't.
Yeah, well, I'll tell you, I mean, I heard the scream in the beginning,
and then I could tell that there was other people screaming in the background then, too,
and I would have as well.
But you could definitely hear that scream come in, and that is chilling.
Absolutely chilling.
Yeah, and that was just one of the things that sets up to be terrified for the night while staying there.
We had one of the guide was saying, we had another guide that just walked out, never came back,
and never said a word to anybody.
They had a lot of UFO sightings, apparently.
And one night, this guide used to sleep in one of the rooms after one of these tours, if you were.
he was awakened in the middle of the night
and he swears that he looked over to the doorway
and there was a cat-like humanoid entity in the room
with its arms in front of its face
and if you can imagine its arms kind of moving up and down
almost like windscreen life was like in a cartoon-like fashion
he said like just looking so unreal like really fast
like faster than a human could
and he just
bolted out of this room
and never came back, never showed up for work
ever again
and I just thought that was such
a strange story, not the traditional kind of story
that a guide would tell you to scare people
but just, you know, a very odd story
so, you know, flash forward to our night
and then we got to something like five in the morning
and nothing happened
with regards to sounds or experiences
but 5 in the morning again
everybody was asleep apart from me
and I could hear what sounded like
stone slabs moving around on their own
like stone being dragged upon stone
in what they called the priest room
where there was this little altar
and this fireplace
and so I ran into this little room
couldn't see anything
I would run back to the
this dining table where we were all sat
I'd sit there again
and then I could hear
as soon as I came back to that place
the stone slab
kind of movement grinding would start again
and then I could hear
banging again in what was the kitchen area
and cuttlery and smashing around
and so I was waking people up saying
did you hear that
and then it just stopped
and after that
nothing really else happened after that
but just such a strange event nevertheless
but my
girlfriend at that time who's now my life
She had a best friend that also visited the property.
And she appeared on an English TV show recounting her experience.
I can't remember the name of the TV shows by a guy called Michael Asper.
And it was something like unsolved mysteries or something to that effect.
And she recounted when her and her friends were there for some kind of charity,
then, Sleepover thing.
and they were all holding hands
trying to communicate with
something or
sounds like fashion
and she had a hand
push her in the shoulder like really hard
and knock her and she turned around
and nothing was there
and so she appeared on this TV show
with that and so it's
very interesting
property I urge anyone to go and look it up online
I don't know whether they're still accepting
public visits, probably not because it was such a long time ago.
But it just shows how all these really ancient properties...
The other story, by the way, going back to that,
is they told us that it was on multiple laylines,
which anyone doesn't know what lay lines are.
They're big magnetic lines that run around the world.
And the story goes that if these magnetic lines cross,
then you can have paranormal experiences or UFO.
old sightings are quite common or crop circles.
So this was on a spot that actually crossed quite a few laylines.
So yeah, fast forwarding onto other experiences that I have.
I moved out of my dad's house because, to be quite honest,
those experiences were getting so much in that bedroom where I couldn't sleep.
I was having sleepless night week after week
only when he was away
and I just wanted to move out
and so my girlfriend
her parents
had moved out of their property
they'd bought a new property
and they rented out their property to us
and so it was great
I had my freedom and we were setting up
home together
and then strange things started happening there
it's like it followed me
and the first strange thing that happened was
we were sat in the lounge area watching TV
and my wife said to me
I just saw somebody in the reflection in our room
they weren't outside I could see somebody
reflected behind me in the room
maybe I'm just seeing things
and so I just didn't
I brushed it off as just yeah you know nothing
a week later we were both
climbing up the stairs
to go to bed and the smell of rotten
meat
and permeated through the whole
stair and the whole ways
leading up to the stairs all the way up the stairs
into the bedroom and
it started as rotten meat
and then it turned into salt foam
and then it just disappeared
which was really odd
and a couple of months went by
nothing
nothing going on and at that point
I started getting into music production.
And we'd moved our bedroom into a small bedroom
so that I could convert the main front bedroom
into a music studio of sorts.
And at that time,
I was collecting all the old Star Wars figures
that I used to have when I was a kid again.
I was like going around, you know,
flea markets and going buying them all
and trying to build out the collection.
And I built these shelves onto the wall.
and I'd got quite a collection of these Star Wars figures again
and some of the vehicles
so they were all stood up on these shelves
all lined up as you can imagine
and I was sat down in the middle of the room
playing on a keyboard
looking at this computer
and then I felt this presence
somebody was watching me
just had this feeling like really
eerily odd feeling
it made me turn around really quickly
and as soon as I turn around
one by one
Star Wars figure looked like it had been
flicked off the shelf
one at a time
one figure
pop spun around into the middle of the room
quite far
pop flick another figure
spinning around into the middle of the room
one by one up to the total of like
ten different
Star Wars figures that had been flicked
into the middle of the room
again my rational
kind of brain kicked in
I'm starting to think, okay, okay, I have a small fan heater.
Did that come on by accident or something blow them off?
No, that didn't come on.
You know, I'm trying to rationalise it in any kind of way possible.
And this feeling carried on for quite a few weeks of this being watched
around the house when it was on my own.
And then years later, we got talking to my mother-in-law,
my wife's mother who I started telling her how these experiences happen when we're living in that
same house and she teared up and she said oh I had lots of experiences there and I think it was my
deceased mother and because I smelt similar things to you over the years like the odd smells but
once I was at the bottom of the staircase where I'd smelled the rotten meat smell and sulfur
she could smell the exact same perfume that her mother had always worn her.
And bringing these stories to her
made her really tear up and think,
oh, something actually was weird going on,
and she swore that it was her mother.
And there was talk of smelling flowers
that she used to have and all sorts of things like that.
So that was the, that house got,
demolished. We had to move out of that house because the local government, the council bought it and he
raised the ground, you know, they bulldozed the house and we had to move away. I moved into
another property and I never had any issues in this property apart from like sleep paralysis
issues, which was really strange. But I started visiting a friend. The same friend,
who had the cottage, who's dad owned in the old cottage with all the cigarette incident,
he was stopping in this house in a place called Bradford, which is in Yorkshire, another northern county,
historical mill town, lots of old properties.
And these properties were huge.
There were like four-story properties with so many different rooms in them that students would rent them out while they were going to Bradford University.
So I had a lot of friends that were stopping in this same property at that time
and I would visit them every weekend.
I would go and stop with them.
One weekend, they had a huge party.
People were in the basement,
people were in all different levels of this house,
all mingling around.
But then the party emptied out.
It got to like one in the morning.
No one around.
Everybody had gone who didn't live there.
all the people had locked themselves away
in the different bedrooms
you can imagine all these different rooms
have been converted into individual bedrooms
so like what used to be the lounge or living room
would be a student's bedroom
and then you'd have a flight of stairs that'd go up
and then the stairs would turn and go up another level
and then you'd have another couple of rooms
two or three rooms that had been converted
into student rooms a third level similar
and then finally on the top floor where my friend's room was
it was the very top which was probably used to be the attic which was converted or something
and my friend was sleeping in a room with a few others there wasn't enough room and i drew the short
straw and they said to me look we're going to give you a sleeping bag you're going to have to
sleep at the top of the um the stairs on this what they call the landing um the area where
there was a bit of space before there was a bathroom and there was two doors so the two doors were
two bedrooms, it was bathroom and I had this square little area to just crash in.
So I'd gone to sleep, I was quite happy there.
And then three o'clock in the morning, I was awakened with the weirdest sound I ever heard in my life.
It was like somebody had done a montage and overlaid things.
It was so weird.
Imagine a crowd of people, all chat.
to
each other
all at
once
male,
female,
all different
age groups
all at the
same time
like a
cacophony
of different
people
coming nearer
up the stairs
like they were
all ascending
the stairs
but on top of that
there was a
mechanical sound
which was like
a whirring
like
and mixed
with all the sound
of chattering
and conversation
all this kind
of strange sound
sound. And this just didn't sound right. I actually thought I was dreaming or just I didn't know
what's thing. So my gut instinct was I jumped out of the sleeping bag, ran down one flight of
stars, tried some people's doors, they were all locked, ran down another flight of stars,
looked around, nobody there. I thought, oh, maybe some people had come back in from the party
that had left earlier. So I checked out every level of the property. No one there. Everybody fast asleep.
The house was, you know, you could hear a pin drop. Went back upstairs. So, oh, maybe I was asleep.
Maybe it was a dream. I'm going to put myself back in my sleeping bag and I'm going to go back to sleep.
The moment I let down again, this whirring, humming, mechanical sound started happening again.
all this chattering started up
and it got louder and louder
and it actually got to the point where it sounded like
it was going to come up to my level
and it sounded like there was literally going to be 30 people
there are all chattering.
I got so afraid that I locked myself in the bathroom
and slept in the bathtub all night
and I just didn't know what to think
so in the morning
I kind of gathered myself, got up
and I started almost interviewing people
from the different rooms
has anything strange
happened?
I didn't want to tell them
what had happened
with me
I just wanted to be
totally not
influence anyone
so I said
has anything strange
ever happened
while you've been living here
two girls
who shared a room
said yeah
we get strange things
going on
like a posters
have been ripped
off the wall
one night
posters being moved
from one wall
to another
master
very odd moved.
Different people were telling me different
stories like this from different rooms.
One guy said he'd seen shadow people in the
basement one night while they were
having a hangout down there.
And the strange thing was,
another one of my friends
went and
slept in the exact same room a year
later,
which was just plain
weird. I thought, what are the odds
of that? So I asked him if
anything strange
you've gone on
this old property
and he said
yeah similar stories
I never got to the bottom
of what it was
that experienced
I hadn't got a clue
it sounded
beyond a normal
haunting to me
something just
just got my hackles up
and I just thought
it was the first time
I started thinking
about like UFOs
or alien encounters
and at that time
I was reading
Whitley Streber
and the book
communion
which everybody can
nose and the the front cover of the book just freaked me out obviously I've seen the
grey and cover you know the same imagery over the years because I've been into paranormal
it got me interested in the paranormal all my experiences but something about that that book
just freaked me out so badly and I just went through a stage of utter paranoia even in this
new house that we were living in I wanted to check all
the closets all the time before I go to bed. I would have to sleep with lights on and things like that.
And it wasn't until I left that house and went travelling. I finally got settled and didn't have
this anxiety. But going back to this house that we'd moved into, it was the, we finally got
married and my wife and I and we bought this house that was, what they call a semi-detached house,
It was a three-bedroom.
And I had my first proper, like, UFO encounter, if you will.
And something told me, something told me I knew it was going to happen.
I was led on the couch looking out the window.
And I just had this urge to look into the distance.
We were afforded a really beautiful view out of the big bay window.
I could see over what was called the Ribble Valley
and we have these really huge hills in the distance
that span the whole landscape
and you could see in the horizon
all you can see these big hills
and we have this famous hill called Pendle Hill
where they used to have the famous witches
of Pendle Hill and all these like folklore
so we could see this view is kind of uninterrupted if you will
all the way to the distance.
And something told me to look and look carefully
into the distance over to these hills.
We just had this sick sense.
And I kept watching and watching
and all of a sudden in the distance
what looked like,
when you look into this sense
and you see a balloon
or something like that or a hot air balloon,
this thing was coming closer and closer.
And my gut feeling was getting stronger, if you will.
It's almost like my spide sensor to kick in.
And I kept watching and watching and something urged me to go out around the side of the house.
And as this thing came over, it started to become evident that it wasn't a balloon.
It looked physical.
It looked like it had mechanical, almost markings all right.
It was metallic, it was barrel shaped, it was rotating on its axis, very, very slowly.
I ran to the side of the house, into the back garden, up some steps where I could get a better view.
And it came so close that it must have been a hundred foot above the house.
And this thing was barrel-like.
And then I noticed it had three or four, three or four, obs.
I'm not sure three or four.
Orbs that were metallic-looking, circling, orbiting.
There was the main object, which was this barrel-like thing that you could.
would see markings on and it looked metallic and it was spinning on its axis,
but these orbs around the outside were orbiting it, almost like they were magnetically attached
and they were in a formation all orbiting all at the same distance apart from each other.
I screamed to my wife to come out and look because I wanted to check this out
because I'd been talking about paranormal stuff for a few years and I'd had a big fascination
in the iPhones. So she came out
around the side of the house, absolutely
in disbelief and she
was saying, wow,
what is that? That is
crazy.
It's some kind of technology.
It's physically
and the moment she said that
all the orbs separated
all at once, super fast,
shot off into the distance.
And then this object
slowly, very slowly, in fact,
just carried.
on spain and then just drifted off into the distance.
At that point I was kicking myself not to go and go.
I had a really good camera, a XLR camera,
and I just wished I'd have gone and took some snaps.
I didn't have any video equipment at that time.
Mobile phones were still in the old Nokia stage.
She didn't have decent video on or anything like that.
but I had the corroboration of another witness
and it just blew my mind
and at that point
I realized that
you know it wasn't just things I've read about
that something strange
is out there and something that
could it have been military technology
yes I suppose so we had
a local aerospace
company at a place called
Sarmesbury and it was called
BAE Systems
British Air
aerospace, something else systems.
And they're known for doing like projects.
Maybe they do like secret projects and stealth craft.
Who knows?
But this kind of,
that's one of the go-to things that I thought of could have been some experimental craft.
Who knows?
But like with these orbs, you know,
I'd heard all the stories of years.
I've been a UFO researcher for years.
I'd heard the stories of orbiting, like, orbs and things like that
around. I've seen the videos ever since.
The strange thing is, many years later on YouTube,
I saw a person posted a sighting of what looked like
there was a kid playing in the backyard and this object had come down.
It almost like came down and it was almost like interested in this kid
like looking at playing in his backyard and this,
it looked very similar this object to what I'd seen.
And then I'd seen some other.
clips over the years, like some things filmed in Nevada and some strange things, and they all look very
similar to me. And then I started researching things like this Black Knight satellite. I don't
know if you've ever heard of that. Yeah, I've heard of it. I don't know a ton about it, but I've
heard a lot about it. It's just, it's one of those things where there's so much speculation about it.
I'm not sure what details to go with. And yeah, so I started researching the Black Knight. And the
the vague kind of imagery that I could see of it looked very similar to what I'd seen in other words.
It was the technology didn't look like it was manmade.
It just looked too abstract and too strange and all the markings on it.
And it just looked like nothing.
You know, a person couldn't be on board this thing, the way it was operating.
It was just too abstract.
and my gut feeling was it was some kind of probe or, you know, this was years before drones existed.
But it just looked like something like that, very, very strange.
And this reminded me of another incident that I'd forgotten about, that the same cottage that with the cigarette incidents, with it lighting upon its own, when his father was renovating that property, he had scaffolding on the outside of the house, which was,
leading to the rooftop.
So me and my friend
and another friend
would spend all summer
just sat on top of this rooftop
just staring at this same valley
that I was talking about before
that this other property looked out onto.
For some reason,
we all have this fascination with this valley
and this hills in the distance.
We just watched and watched.
When it was night,
we'd just stare up at the stars
and look for satellites coming past.
One summer's day,
we were all staring
just for some
reason.
I don't.
We're just talking to each other,
having,
you know,
telling some jokes.
And we're all looking
in the same place.
And there's this
grassy hill
in the distance,
this huge hill.
And we all
noticed at the same
time,
a metal disc
slowly ascend
just above
hill level,
just enough so that
you could see
the top of the
disc to realize
that it was a dome
shape disc,
traditional,
classic metal
UFO-looking thing.
and this hill was so far in the distance
this thing must have been huge
and as soon as we'd noticed it
it very slowly descended below the
the line of the hill
so it was not visible anymore
and we looked at each other and said
did you see that? Yeah yeah
I saw that my friend said it just
slowly came up
and as soon as it had come up it went back down again
and yeah
there were only two major UFO incidents where, you know,
both had corroboration and eyewitnesses.
And after that,
I didn't have any other paranormal experiences per se,
but I had a lot of weird sleep paralysis,
waking up in the middle of the night,
jumping up, bolts up, right, talking in my sleep.
things like that
my wife would be really freaked out
she'd be waking up saying
what's going on
what the hell are you doing
you know you just
sat up upright in bed
for no reason
and you were just talking to somebody
and you're really scaring me
like what's going on
and I'd have these strange
nights where I'd wake up
and the peripheral vision
I'd see shapes coming down from the ceiling
it looked like almost
mechanical
spider contraptions of you
coming down from the ceiling above.
And I'd just put it down to, oh, you know,
I was having some kind of weird nightmares
and stuff like that.
But this carried on.
We went travelling around the world.
We went to Australia.
And I had a very strange event in Australia.
We were touring up and down the coast of Australia.
We stopped at a place called Surfers Paradise.
and we rented an apartment for the night
and it was just like a traditional block of apartments
you know nothing special just running the mill
and it had a really nice big living room
it had a kitchen and a bedroom
but it had this bathroom that I just got a really weird feeling about
as soon as I walked into the property
something drew me to the bathroom
and I went to go for the door
and the door was locked from the inside
and I couldn't figure this out
this was like freak you
so I tried a few times
and my wife was saying
oh just leave it you know
we've got another bathroom
attached to the bedroom it's fine
something
was setting all the heckles
on my arms off and making me really freaked out
something about this bathroom
I was so uneasy
I couldn't sleep
I was up in the middle of the night
it was like something
odded happening in that bathroom
I just had this six sense
the next day in the morning
I went to the same bathroom and the door opened
absolutely no problem
went in and I just felt cold like something's
happened in this room like something really odd
and I couldn't put my finger on it couldn't figure out what was
the deal with that just another weird
incident in the catalogue of strange occurrences
of my life you know and then
I think the final incident I had, I've been good for like years like,
I'd say 10 years I've had no experiences, thank goodness, you know.
But we moved to Spain after travelling around the world for a while and toured in Australia.
We moved to Spain for a few years where I worked as a designer.
We set up from small design business in Spain.
and we lived in this one apartment
and I started seeing out the corner of my
we sat watching TV
and I looked to my right
and I could see
what looked like movement in the hallway
where there was a doorway
and it led to a big hallway
and the bedroom
was on one side of the hallway
and then the kitchen door was on the other
and it looked like somebody was walking
from bedroom through the hallway
through into the kitchen
and I started
noticing more and more. I just put it down through, oh, nothing I was imagining things.
And then again, I could see shadows in the corner of my eye. And then I started to look more in more
detail and I could see actual physical black shadowy figures walking from one side to the other
into the kitchen. And I said to my wife, did you see that? Did you see that? And she said,
no, no, I didn't see anything. And this kept happening all the time, like every the night there. And
then we were renting this place and they had to move us.
We were tenants in this place.
The landlord kicked us out and we went into another property and subsequently after that
I felt really comfortable in this of the property and no more experiences and that was the last
time I had any of these strange experiences really.
But when I do look back, it's such a catalogue of weird things and whether there's a
connection between them all, whether, I don't know, I have no idea. I just know that there's some
mind-bending stuff and some things that I can't explain to this day. And some of the things of
the cigarette thing story, when I tell people, they look at me like I've got two heads. Like,
what are you talking about? That's just insane. I don't even believe it to this day. It was so
bizarre. But yeah, very, very odd.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, you've had tons of experiences throughout your life. And, you know, when we first
started this interview, I was thinking, you know, maybe we could lend a hand as to, you know,
somebody who is listening to the stories and, you know, outside perspective as to maybe how this
kind of all unfolded for you throughout your life. But the more I heard it, I was like,
this is just a jam-packed life filled with experiences. And some of, excuse me, and some of it maybe, you know,
was brought on in the sense of the investigations and the scream kind of thing.
But some of it is just very sheer happenstance.
Do you have any inkling as to why you had so many experiences at one point in your life,
but now it seems like it died off?
Yeah, a couple of things.
I think going through the trauma of losing a mother at an early age at 13, 14,
and then I surrounded myself with a lot of friends to deal with it.
and I didn't come to terms with it for quite a few years.
I just dealt with it by doing the things I loved,
like music and skateboarding and things like that,
and I had a huge wide circle of friends.
And when my father moved to this little small mill town
in this awful property with no sunlight,
and I was so depressed.
I'd lost contact with all my friends.
I didn't have transport at that time.
So I used to see my friends every night.
I was isolated.
He was away,
obviously truck driving for a couple of nights
of the week.
I'd started working in a job that I was very
unhappy with in this kind of small
print place.
My only escaping life
was seeing my girlfriend at that time.
I've known my girlfriend since college and
we've been married years and
she was the only kind of anchor
had. And so when she came around, it was like a breath of fresh air. I got to escape this
miserable life, if you will. And you know, when you hear stories, don't you, of like people
going through trauma or especially like polter guys, you hear of young girls going through puberty
or difficult times in the life and then these events happen, what always springs to my mind
is going through such emotion,
such turmoil,
that it might have triggered
or made me more sensitive to things,
perhaps, or, you know,
perhaps there was some kind of haunting there
that was related to that.
I don't claim to know.
And then going forward later in life,
like why it hasn't happened now,
it's because, possibly,
because, well, a couple of things,
I'm content,
I'm happy.
I don't ever think about,
things like that I've got my routines in life.
I'm not so, you know,
in a bad place as I was, if you will.
And the other thing is I found my religion again.
Like I got brought up at a school,
which was a Catholic school.
I wasn't Catholic myself,
but I was very close to the church.
And I was very close to,
I used to go to the Sunday services,
and I used to love all, everything about.
I used to be envious of the kids that had the rosary beads even
and wanted to do communion,
and always wish that I could be involved in that.
And I think throughout the time when I needed that the most,
I've become most detached from faith, if you will,
with a lot of dark things happening in my life.
And then I think as I've grown older,
I found my faith again and learned to sort of almost talk to God as a child would again
and just have that unwavering belief that there's something there.
And that's given me great comfort.
And I think, you know, could that be a connection, possibly, the fact that I surround myself with that now?
I don't know.
I mean, that's for everybody else to decide really, but it certainly could be a factor.
I'd like to think so.
I'd like to think that, you know, we have divine protection from scary and crazy things in life.
Yeah, I kind of understand what you're saying, man.
You know, I think a lot of times perspectives come from life experiences.
and though it's a perspective, I think that with your situation and many other people's situations
with the paranormal, the life experiences that we see around us also contribute to the paranormal
type experiences that we have.
And it's all through, I'm having a hard time saying what I'm trying to think of here,
but it's all through your perspective.
So you have these experiences happening to you, but your perspective as to what happened in
your life attributing to that is the only definition we can run with. Does that make sense at all?
I mean, it's just, I put a lot of weight and value in people's perspectives when it comes to
how they view their experiences and also why they went through those experiences. Because you know
who you are. You know why you think a certain way. And I do think that you as who you are, why you are,
why you think a certain way and what you believe do contribute to how you define your paranormal
experiences, but also contribute to why they even happened. And I think that you might be on
to something there. Yeah, totally. One other strange, totally unrelated story springs to mine. It's
actually from my wife. This is totally on a tangent. But do you remember at the time when Princess
Diana died? Yeah. Was it 97?
Yeah, so we went out for a meal.
It was a week before that happened
and we were just eating
and my wife looks at me and she says
Princess Diana is going to be killed
and I looked at her and I said,
what?
And she said, it was almost like
automatic thing coming out of the mouth
she just said it for no reason.
I said, what on earth do you mean?
She said it just seems so obvious.
She's going to die very soon.
just the way things are going
and then she didn't even know why she said it
and then a week later
in the house where we had the incident
with all the star figures popping off the shelf
that we just moved into
when we were quite young
she came running into the bedroom
early in the morning and said
white as a sheet and she said
I can't believe it
she's died she's died just like I said
and that's just another kind of strange story
that I've just remembered now
which adds another aspect to it, you know, not UFO, not paranormal haunting, but how
people could do such a thing and come out with such a weird thing.
And I've had incidents like that myself.
I used to visit my grandmother in what she had this like shed over 55's accommodation,
and I was walking around the outside of the property past a garden, past her neighbour's house,
and I had a voice in my head saying
Mrs. whatever she was called,
Mrs. Robinson's died.
And she opened the door and said
Mrs. Robinson's died.
And it was like,
I literally just thought of it two minutes before
she just told me.
And I really believe that
we have an ability to tap into things
that maybe the human race has lost
perhaps over the years
and maybe people get lucky enough to just
tap into these things, who knows,
but these things have happened.
I can't explain them.
But very, very strange.
Yeah, well, definitely strange.
And I think I said this to you before we even started interviewing.
You know, I haven't experienced half the things you guys have experienced on the show.
I mean, I've had certain things here and there happen to me,
but nothing on a level of what,
you, like what you just described where, uh, you went through many different experiences, not just
paranormal, not just with, uh, one particular quote unquote type of entity, but just really peppered
throughout your life. And I, I've never experienced stuff like that. And I'm always fascinated by
it. And now you're telling me about your wife and basically predicting Princess Diana's death.
Uh, I find that very fascinating. It's like sometimes I wonder if there's something, I don't,
I feel goofy saying it like this, but it makes me wonder sometimes if there's some type of
engineered life around us, a matrix.
Yeah.
It's like, did your wife just experience a glitch in the matrix where she felt, at least felt,
because she probably would have said if she saw something, but she at least felt what she
was going to feel in a week, a week early.
It's weird.
Yeah, it lends to the thought that everything's happening all at once.
all that kind of idea.
And whether every now and again we slip out of the perception
of how we perceive time
and just maybe get a glimpse of things accidentally.
Who knows?
But there's certainly, there's enough evidence
to suggest that a lot of people have been through
these kind of similar experiences
and things are not quite as we've seen.
as they seem and yeah who knows yeah oh i mean i don't i don't pretend to know uh i'm just the guy that
hosts conversations and enjoys hearing stories uh but i'll tell you what man i do appreciate
coming on the show and sharing these experiences i i find them interesting man uh it
sometimes people just have stories that are sprinkled throughout their life and and you're
one of those guys and uh the fact that they're they're not or that the fact that they are that they are
seemingly done now and the way you view why they're done, I find comfort in that. Personally,
for me, I look at your life and I find comfort of that and I hope you do too. Yeah, definitely.
And to be honest, I'd never even thought of half of these experiences until I thought about
coming on the show. And then I started making notes and then that gave way to other experiences
coming up from the subconscious that I totally forgot about. And that was cathartic and
itself just being able to offload all these experiences and just recount them to somebody
because instead of carrying them around, you know, it's good to be able to tell them to an
audience that into this kind of stuff and that, you know, it doesn't just look at you and think,
oh, you must be crazy, you know, and what are you talking about? And subsequently, it's got me
absolutely fascinated in anything paranormal, hauntings, or you know, you.
name it, conspiracies. I research everything these days. I'm probably just as fascinated as most of the
audiences. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please
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