The Confessionals - RELOADED | 30: The Confessions of a Federal Officer

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Merkel. Medias. I guess it's time to go back in time. Are you telling me that you built a time machine? Out of the Dolion? Time is but a stubborn illusion. I have a lot of memories of the past. People are time traveling within themselves.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Time travel is possible. Okay, I reload it. I am sound until it's bright and to sacrifice your life. Careful on to the rest of the friends. You guys hear that? Welcome to the show, everybody. I am your host, Tony Merkel, and I'm really glad that you're here. And I'm really glad to be here.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I got a great show plan for you tonight. I got Don coming on, who was a federal officer. And he comes on to kind of just share a lot of his life experiences with paranormal type activity. Before we get into that, though, I want to let you guys know that next week's show episode 31 is going to be a big show and I want everybody to make sure they tune in because I'm interviewing a guy who claims to have killed a Bigfoot. In South Ohio where he lives, he comes on to share his story of when he killed a Bigfoot. So make sure you tune in for that. The show is titled I Killed Bigfoot. There's a promo video for it on the Facebook page. So go ahead and check that out at the Confessionals on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:02:23 But make sure you tune in next week because next week's show is going to be a very intriguing show. I want to remind you guys that if you've had an encounter of any kind, it does not matter to me what it is. It could be government conspiracy. But if you've had an encounter and you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and email me at the confessionals podcast at gmail.com. That's confessional's podcast at gmail.com. Or you can go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the connection section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either way it works for me. Just get a hold of me.
Starting point is 00:02:56 And without any further delay, let's get to tonight. show with Don. Okay, today I have a great guest coming on, Don. And Don contacts me and lets me know that he's a former federal officer with secret security clearance. And he comes on today to share a lot of experiences that he's had throughout his entire life stemming from his childhood up to more current times. Don, how are you today?
Starting point is 00:03:25 I'm doing well, Tony. How about yourself? I'm doing fantastic. man. Thanks for reaching out to me. I know when you first reached out to me, he told me your profession. And I told you this in the pre-interview, my first reaction was, I'm not sure if I'm going to answer this right away. I mean, you know, to have a, you know, a federal officer contacting me. I was a little, I just wanted to feel it out. So I actually looked at your, you know, looked you up a little bit and did some recon myself. But I'm glad to be talking with you today. And
Starting point is 00:03:58 you know, for you to share some of these experiences that you've had. You have, now we talked a lot about this before, but you've had a lot of experiences with, you know, the more, for lack of better words, just generalize alien type of entities. Would you like to start us there? Yes, yes, absolutely. First, I'd like to start off by saying,
Starting point is 00:04:25 thank you for having this venue for folks to, come forward. I do appreciate your professionalism and then, you know, this is something I think is well needed. A lot of folks carry this with them and just don't typically have an opportunity or venue to feel safe that they could discuss these important issues. So basically we can go back, I grew up in a major metropolitan area up in the Northeast. And ever since I was very young, I've had a lot of very strange starts out where a lot of times, I'll just give you a little background. My father was not the nicest guy. So he, for some reason, targeted me and kind of I was always punished or in trouble for things I did do, didn't do.
Starting point is 00:05:30 So a lot of times I was home alone because I was punished while everybody else was out doing things. So a lot of times, these are the times that these things happened to me. Not always, but in the beginning, that's how it happened. So the first incident that I remember I was probably four. It was early 1970s. I was home in an apartment building, broad daylight. I started kind of hearing some just weird sounds, like a clicky type of vibration. It's hard to explain the type of sound.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And I felt like this weird energy wasn't quite static, but kind of had that thing where like pins and needles and hair started standing up. And then I was actually looking at my window. at my siblings playing down stairs in the courtyard. And my dog started getting very nervous, so I turned and looked in the direction. He was looking in, and there was this black figure walking down the hallway towards me.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And it was so terrifying that I just started climbing out the window onto the fire escape screaming for my brothers to come up. to help. And they came flying up. So it turned and went down towards our bedrooms. And then my brothers and all their friends, it took them probably three, four minutes to get up there. And they searched the house and couldn't find it,
Starting point is 00:07:17 but the dog was still a nervous wreck. So, excuse me, I'm just having a little flashback of that. Then my brothers and everybody, they searched everything. They actually called the police. They went through the whole house because first, I didn't know if it was a thief or robber. I didn't see the door physically open, but it came from front door area, which was actually locked. And they could not find this, whatever it was. At first, I didn't know what to make of a lot of these things until later on in life after learning more about what's out there,
Starting point is 00:07:59 how these entities can present themselves. Second time, same exact place, probably six months later. Same scenario, home alone, punished once again for imaginary things. And now the same scenario, similar noises, dog kind of going nuts. And I look up and there's four,
Starting point is 00:08:29 of these things. And they're kind of walking in my direction, but they presented themselves this time as something non-threatening. Like kind of almost cartoonish. I mean, I'm trying to remember the name of the show. We used to be on in the 70s,
Starting point is 00:08:49 and they kind of presented themselves of these characters and were like waving at me and trying to put me at ease. Once again, you know, seeing something like this, you know, he kind of freaked out, although not as freaked out as the first time. And it took me a little longer to kind of snap out of it
Starting point is 00:09:12 and shout down once again to my family members. Then they came flying up and once again clear the house. Nothing was there. And they thought it was... My older siblings kind of thought it was something that was in my imagination. Later on, I discussed with... one of my other siblings, and they said they had similar things happening during that timeline.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Let me see. Then later on, during the 70s also, we moved to a new location. And this was still inside of city limits, but a little more, instead of houses, more, or instead of apartment buildings, more houses, garden apartments, condo type, you know, two-level condo type things. and in this place I was getting a lot of, a lot of activity. One, I was having, once again, my same dog was with me, and I started hearing these weird sounds.
Starting point is 00:10:24 This way it kind of sounded like, you know, when you're really hungry, and you're something kind of makes that weird sound, but it was similar to that, but it just kept getting louder and louder and louder and louder. And I started seeing like these weird, flashes of light inside the bedroom that I was in. And my dog was like growling looking at.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I started and then whatever it was said my name three times. And it said it first in a very deep menacing voice. And then the second time it said it in a normal voice. It was like dawn. And then the third time it was almost like a kid's voice. Needless to say, I didn't want to stick around to see what was going to enter in. So I just grabbed my dog under my arm and I hauled out of the house. And there was my mom just pulling up from work.
Starting point is 00:11:30 She could tell that we were visibly shaken. And she didn't even want to go in the house because she said she had some, you know, weird experiences as well, never really went into it. Then like a couple weeks later in another bedroom, we had this big little set up with the old Lionel trains, the little tiny ones. and we had this, I was just in there, and there was another weird thing, kind of like a staticy, weird sounds and clicking.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And I started seeing this light manifesting, and it kept shooting up, and it was like shooting straight up, and then out to the side, then up and out the side. And the frequency of it just kept changing, it was going faster and faster and faster. And once again, you know, scared the life out of me for the most part.
Starting point is 00:12:31 and exited once again. Following up a couple weeks later, I got home one evening, and most of my family was this, it was actually like probably a couple years later, most of my family was asleep, and I hear, you know, just kind of weird stuff again. I'm getting the feeling once again,
Starting point is 00:12:58 my hair standing up, and then I hear something to say my name, and I thought it was my sister. and she actually was not asleep at the time. And I was like, hey, was that you? She goes, no. I was, did you hear that? She goes, yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I thought it was one of your friends. And it was not. So since then, she's forgotten that. She's not remembered that, but we did talk about it quite a few times over the years, but since then, I don't know what happened to her memory. same neighborhood now we're in like the early 80s probably
Starting point is 00:13:42 early evening sun setting I'm walking down to walking through our neighborhood heading down to going to a store to go by something and I see this very strange
Starting point is 00:14:00 kind of maybe 10 15 feet off the ground I couldn't have been more than 75 feet away from it. And it was just these just super bright multiple different color lights. It was red, blues, white. It was just moving up over the road, fairly quick pace. And then it was just it took off so fast. I couldn't even see which direction it went in. And then I was trying to convince myself that, you know, maybe it was a fire truck, maybe it was a police car. And then I'm
Starting point is 00:14:44 like, well, they don't hover. They don't hover off the ground. It's something I, don't recall telling any family members shortly after that. I don't know memory came into place, but I remember seeing this. By the way, all of these incidents I'm telling you about all followed major nosebleeds. I had my nose would just start pouring blood out of it and just wouldn't stop bleeding for quite a long time. and doctors couldn't figure out why if my nose would bleed. It was just really weird. And so with other incident, see myself standing,
Starting point is 00:15:39 I don't know if I was in some place or looking up at something, but everywhere that I looked as far as I could see, there was just bright lights of many different colors. You could tell it there was something intelligent there. I felt as though I was being observed contact with me necessarily. I do remember when I got home that I got in trouble again because I was, you know, an hour or so late. I don't remember gone that long.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It seemed like I was only gone for 10, 15 minutes. Stuff like that would happen quite often where I would always get in trouble. My father always thought I was lying to him when I, in fact, wasn't. But I had thought that I was only going for short periods of time and end up being late to dinner, late to get home and, you know, coming home with a nosebleed. He's like, what's going on with you? You got your nose bleeding. You're late. What do you, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:16:54 And it was just a really scary time. And this was all during the 80s. Now, in around, I think it was 85, I was dating. gal that went to Syracuse University and while visiting one night were just nighttime everybody's
Starting point is 00:17:28 sleeping so we're just laying in bed sleeping and startled away there was some kind of weird light in the room seemed like moving like something like a fan was on him something like that and as I look up
Starting point is 00:17:52 there's these three at the time I thought they were demon. Now I come to realize that they were actually reptilian. And I had, one was on my chest, and his face was almost nose to nose touching this thing. And it was just looking into my soul. I could tell that it was just leading me. I don't know what its purpose was. The other one was down closer to my legs just kind of, I don't know if it was holding me there, but I felt like I couldn't move. The only thing I could move was my eyes and I couldn't even move my head. And when I looked over to my left, I saw my girlfriend and there was one that was crawling up her,
Starting point is 00:18:48 going like from her waist up to her. Then I felt this like energy come through my body. And it almost seemed like I snapped out of whatever. It was freezing my body and that position and I found a lot of I don't know if it was anger or whatever but I thought that she was being harmed and I just I felt like this energy and I also I could move and they just vanished pretty much and they were gone. When I did tell her that story she didn't remember it but we were talking with some friends of hers and they said that's a very odd thing similar type things happened to them that very same time period so that kind of
Starting point is 00:19:39 confirm for me, okay, you're not nuts. I wasn't consuming any alcohol or anything at the time, so I know I was stone sober. And after that, you just to say I couldn't sleep for quite some time. Now, do you want to just talk about this first, then we could go into some of the other topics during the same timelines, or do you want to just jump around to different? No, we can definitely talk about this. Actually, I was about to cut you off anyways and ask you some questions. Okay. So basically, let's start with this 1985 incident at your girlfriend. I believe you said it was your girlfriend's college. What strikes me is you said it looked like a reptilian. It was nose to nose with you. I'm not sure if you had a chance to do this yet. Have you had a chance to listen to the episode that I just came out with yesterday? I did.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You did. Okay. In that episode, Steve talks about having something attacking. him on, I believe he said it was his couch. And it was, to me, in my mind, I'm picturing similar similarities. Because I think Steve described it as almost like a dragon looking thing. And I was just curious, this reptilian that you saw, like, could you describe its characteristics a little bit? Because I'm wondering if people are seeing things that are very similar, but they're just describing it differently. Yeah. The description that he gave was, very similar. It's,
Starting point is 00:21:12 it was large, it was very big. I mean, it was like way bigger than he is. I'm just shy of six foot. I just remember it being very massive, like maybe seven, seven and a half foot tall.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Just real super heavy. And I felt the weight on me of, of him when he was, and I'm saying him, and I'm not 100% sure, or its complexion was kind of bumpy, scaly point, like kind of most lizardish, like a bearded dragon type skin.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It had pretty large eyes. I don't remember seeing anything other than blackness. It could have been different from that. I don't recall seeing any hair, any clothing to speak of. I would love to go through. through regression, be able to gain, because I'm sure more than that happened.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I just don't know. I think this is what I'm either allowed to remember or what, I think that's what I've been allowed to remember from what happened. That's why I thought it was a demon at first. I thought it was like this to see. But then later on, because I didn't really fuck UFOs and sci-fi and all this,
Starting point is 00:23:01 and then later on after, saying, okay, well, all this weird stuff's happening to me. You know, maybe I need to do a little research and figure it out. And it took me quite a long time before I realized that it was presenting himself as reptilian to me. Okay, I got you. Yeah, I mean, the human mind is, you know, so complex. And, you know, it's funny because there's things that I am still just remembering for my childhood. I'll be driving down the road listening to something.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And all of a sudden, this memory hits me in my head that I didn't remember for years. and all of a sudden it makes sense for current situations I'm going through now. It's like, wow, you know, why does the human mind block out certain memories? It's just, it's a very complex thing. With all these lights that you've been seeing, it seems like, if I'm remembering correctly, with everything you've shared, almost every situation involves some kind of lights in that encounter. Do you think that there's possibly a relation between it all? Like, almost as if there's one specific thing that's almost maybe following you around and presenting itself to you in different ways, but the light is the common characteristic.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You know, I definitely think that it's related. Somehow, I feel that, you know, if they are not the same beings that they all know of each other, they're all somehow either associated or loosely associated, you know, whether their mission is the same or not. I mean, maybe they're just studying us and, you know, the different factions are doing similar research. I don't know for sure, but I feel that once you have an extraordinary experience happen, you're kind of an open door for other things to happen. to you or present themselves to you, whether it be paranormal, crypted, interdimensional,
Starting point is 00:25:16 just all kinds of different things. I think that you basically are an open door. Maybe portal yourself to allow these things to come in and out. I don't know the answer to that. But I can say that I do feel that they are related somehow. Okay. Yeah, I mean, these lights that you were seeing, it wasn't all at night, right? There was daytime light sightings, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, plenty of them. There was quite a few daytime sightings. You know, and I've heard a lot of people talk about, you know, cloaking. And you know what if these beings do come from another planet or another dimension,
Starting point is 00:26:07 it's very likely that their science is so much more advanced than ours, and their abilities are so much greater. Like, I'll just give you a quick example of, in high school, I went to a very large high school in the inner city, and at lunchtime, just me and a whole bunch of my friends are sitting outside of this pizza place, and I used to be like the class clown, so I'm like telling jokes, and I'm standing,
Starting point is 00:26:41 facing everybody, and then my back is to a road, and all of a sudden, some inner voice just says, step forward very quickly. And as I stepped forward, this car actually came up on the sidewalk and spun out and literally missed me by an inch.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You know, was that, whatever it is, follow me around is that the door that's open was that god i don't know but i think that you know once you're open i think that uh i think that you're open to many many things and listening to the show i see a lot of people have had multiple experiences you know in several different unseemingly related fields that inner voice that you heard is that something that you've ever experienced before or after
Starting point is 00:27:38 I have. I have. I've heard it several times. I had another incident where it was the same thing. I almost got blasted by a car, and it was another thing for some reason I just started running, and a car just came flying up on the sidewalk and hit this cement barrier where I was literally a couple seconds earlier, another time. and they always seemed to come when there was potential for great bodily harm or death. And another time was in the 80s, I'm sorry, the 90s, and Washington Square Park in New York City. I was there with a female friend of mine, and we were going to sit down on these park benches, and we were just getting ready to sit down, and that little...
Starting point is 00:28:41 voice inside said, you know, just get up and go somewhere else right now. And we got up and we walked. And as we were walking, I just hear this like, boom, boom, boom. And I turn around and I see people flying through the air. And what happened was some lady, an older lady, hit the gas pedal instead of the break. And she drove through the park and she was actually crashing through these park benches, which were fastened to cement. and they were snapping.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And I think she killed six people, and it was right where we were sitting. Wow. You know, yeah, that was, so I've, when I was younger, I used to ignore it. Now I do not, because I definitely feel that whatever it is, is trying to.
Starting point is 00:29:37 What's the batting average with this voice that you hear? I mean, is it something that when you hear it and whatever you're hearing, it comes true, like, you know, if it says move to your right for generic, you know, terminology, move to your right. If you don't do it, does like a, you know, a baseball hitching the head, you know, like, what's the average here? I mean, are we talking like this voice is very consistent, very accurate all the time, or is it, you know, a hit and miss kind of thing? It's pretty much every time it happens, something major happens.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Um, uh, another one was, I was, um, it was in 2001. And, uh, at the time I was actually injured. I had a, uh, I, uh, blew my knee out. And, uh, I had to schedule a, uh, a doctor's appointment, but I only had like a couple days to do it. So, uh, originally they wanted me to come in on the 11th of September. So we used to take the train, which was the E-training, Queens, and it would take a week to the World Trade Center. So my fiancé at the time, which we were not married, obviously, yes, because she was my fiancé, but I was trying to get up there to be with her.
Starting point is 00:31:10 So I called and rescheduled the appointment for the 10th. So I took the train in and got off the World Trade Center. And I think that was that inner voice telling me, hey, change this. Well, we all know what happened the next day. No, the buildings were hit by airplanes and they came to the ground. So it was right around the same time that I would have been in the building that the appointment was originally scheduled for. So it was only a few blocks away. needless to say that was
Starting point is 00:31:44 something that you know really shook me quite a bit which actually the reason why I chose to become a federal officer wow so that event actually spawned your career as a federal officer
Starting point is 00:32:02 correct okay I have a family member that was supposed to be in the World Trade Center that day and he didn't hear voice or anything like that, but from what he said, he told me this story years ago, but he just decided to skip that day. He was supposed to be there for, I don't know, something with work. And he doesn't work in New York City, but he was supposed to be there, but he decided
Starting point is 00:32:28 just to skip it. And that's the day that the towers were hit. So, you know, I wouldn't say it was a voice like you heard, but it's very interesting how, you know, circumstances lead to either traumatic experiences or saving you from such traumatic experiences. Right. I think even if you're not hearing an actual voice, because I've heard multiple people tell some very similar stories that day. They were supposed to be there and, you know, either the cab got a flat tire or the train was running late or, you know, they went in to grab a bale and a coffee and they spilled coffee, you know, just so many different things. I think that's all the same thing just presenting itself in a different way to what they can
Starting point is 00:33:20 comprehend, understand, and deal with. And, you know, I think folks that are supposed to be someplace are, and those that are not, are not. And they are guided away from those scenarios. I can give you one more example and I got to be kind of careful on super details. Okay. Because it could very easily be looked up and names can be given some trying to as well. I was at that time I was working as a contractor.
Starting point is 00:34:07 So I'm just going to kind of be vague about that. and I was helping a friend out who had a very beautiful mansion, and they had all kinds of contractor defects. So I was helping them out for a few months, and it was just item after item after item. They had to repair and fix and rebuild items. And one of our mutual friends, you know, basically out of the blue, hey, I need your help today.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I was like, okay, no problem. So I didn't in South Jersey, so I drove up to North Jersey, Pups individual. I was supposed to be back in South Jersey, kind of around 6, 37 o'clock. All these weird little events kept happening. Weird delay after the other, and none of it made sense. At the time I'm going, this is really bizarre, because every time I'm trying to get out of here,
Starting point is 00:35:18 something else happens that requires my attention immediately. and the whole time I was back and forth with the other friend in South Jersey and I was talking to him and then at like eight something his phone I couldn't get through and then all of a sudden and I had a freshly charged by my battery just completely drained and had nothing left in it which I thought was really bizarre so now I have to recharge my phone before I can call back And I kept calling and calling and calling and nothing. So I'm like, all right, maybe he went out somewhere. And so I ended up getting back out there at like probably two in the morning.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And all the lights around in the house and, you know, wide open. So I used to just walk in. So I, you know, knock first, nobody had. So I walked in and I turned to my left. And he and another person were actually murdered. in the house. So I grabbed his dogs and basically got out of there because I didn't know if the person was still there. I didn't know what was going on. And when the police came, they said that there was blood droplets at each doorway of the house. And they said that the people that did that were looking to see if there
Starting point is 00:36:47 anybody else was there. And I was supposed to be there the whole time. It was not scheduled, but I was supposed to not be there. So I think that's one of those. divine interventions or that inner voice or circumstance, whatever I think it's associated, just kept me out of harm's way because it wasn't my time, I guess. Wow. That's pretty a heavy thing to deal with. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, to just sit there and think that you were supposed to be there and you dodged
Starting point is 00:37:19 such a traumatic event, I mean, that will shake anybody. it does and I got to say I probably had post-traumatic stress disorder for quite some time I was probably in denial about it you know I do so for not being there thinking that there was something I could have done but obviously the people that have that did this were very good at what they do and I probably would have been laying right next to them you know logically you could say that but psychologically you could say well you know it's a kind of harder to deal with, you know. Geez.
Starting point is 00:38:03 All right. Well, you mentioned taking the dogs out of there, and it made me remember something you said earlier back to your childhood. You said that your dog could see or at least sense what you were experiencing. Right. Is that something that gave you comfort that you weren't, you know, crazy? It did. It did.
Starting point is 00:38:29 And another thing that did help is my mother is just amazing people in the world where I didn't get a lot of that positive reinforcement and energy for my father. My mother made up for a tenfold. And she never once thought I was lying. She always believed me. She always said she believed me. Even as an adult, I'd discuss some these things with her. And she has said, yeah, I believe you 100%. I've experienced some bizarre things.
Starting point is 00:39:05 My life, she never really went into detail about them, but she always supported and understood that what I was saying was accurate. Okay. Yeah, because, I mean, that's one thing where when I was a kid growing up, I was always told that dogs can see and sense ghosts. And so we always had two dogs. And so whenever I would feel weird or something, I was always looking for my dogs.
Starting point is 00:39:30 How are they reacting? I'd call them to me because somehow they're, going to protect me or something like that. Right. Now, you mentioned back... Cats, cats, too, will do that. Cats too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:42 At the time we had, at the first couple incidents, we had both cat and dog, and they both were acting a little, you know, the cat, not as much as the dog, but they were both looking in the same place. The cat kind of just was more, you know, focused on it where the dog was actually very nervous. right but I mean come on let's be real cats can't protect you without a doubt yeah they run before you run
Starting point is 00:40:12 so back in the 70s you were telling me about the first experiences that you've had and um it was like an early morning experience and did the police actually come out to that first experience I remember them coming out and they were looking for
Starting point is 00:40:36 you know a burglary in process. They were looking for a criminal in my house. They went and cleared the closets under the beds, all the bedrooms. They looked everywhere, and there was nothing. I mean, there was nothing there. At that point, I didn't feel the energy anymore.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I didn't feel the, so whatever it was had left. Now, there was no way for it to leave because I had the only exit in my field of vision the whole time. So there was no way because the way it did was it came down the hallway and made a little, it would have made a left, but it would have been to my right because I was facing it, went down towards the bedrooms. And so I literally climbed out and started screaming, but I kept looking inside to see if the thing was coming even further. I have to go down the fire escape to get out of there.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And fortunately I didn't have to continue down and I was on the upper floors. I think it was a six-story building. I was on the fifth floor. Okay. Now, I just was wondering if they came out and how they treated the situation. But so one of the entities, I'm not sure if it's the same one, you may not even be sure, but during this time, you experienced an entity that you said presented itself like a cartoon. It was cartoonish. It resembled a cartoon of that time in the 70s. Yeah. Have you ever listened to episode, I think it's 17, touch. a big foot with Jason, he tells a story when he was a kid before he gets into his big foot encounter. He tells a story of having something climb in through his window and transforming in front of him into different images. And I remember distinctly him talking about one of the images was, I think he said it was Fred Flintstone from the Flintstone's
Starting point is 00:42:39 cartoon. And he said it scarred him. Like he, like it scared him so bad seeing one of his childhood cartoons being there, scaring him. Is that like a similar experience that you had? I would say yes. And actually, I just remembered the name of the show. It was called The Banana Split. And it was more, and actually YouTube, because it's quite humorous.
Starting point is 00:43:04 It's kind of like these hippie animals that are kind of like, I think it was like a take on the monkeys or the Beatles, but it was like an animal version. And so they had these oversized animal suits and goofy get-ups. And I remember kind of presenting itself from that way to me and the way they were looking at me. They did almost the same pattern as the original darker mass.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And they kind of came and, you know, were waving at me and kind of trying to probably put me at ease. But, you know, knowing what reality is and what reality isn't, you're sitting there going, wow, this is, you know, this is crazy and it's insane. You know, I mean, if I wasn't so secure in believing what I actually saw and heard, I would have probably thought I was losing my mind. But, you know, being grounded in reality, you just kind of sit there and say, okay, well, this is definitely something I cannot explain.
Starting point is 00:44:12 you know and pretty terrifying when you're a child. Yeah, I can't only imagine. I mean, yeah. How do you even put something like that into words when you're a kid trying to describe or even comprehend what you're witnessing? It's just out of this world, literally. Oh, absolutely. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You know, and the older I got, the more, I kind of, you know, with that inner voice, or whatever it was that had protected me all these times from certain deaths several times. And she was bodily injury several other times. I was thinking that, you know, I'm not as worried about it as I once was. You know, when I was younger and I didn't understand some of this, I was so terrified that, you know, I was going to be, you know, dissected or harmed in a really, really important. horrible way, but then realizing that something's keeping me safe, even if I'm going through
Starting point is 00:45:34 experiences, it's not going to allow me to be majorly harmed. Oh, and one quick thing, going back to the voice, this was also in the 90s. It was around Christmas time. I was at a friend's house, and we were going to go Christmas shopping for their children. Getting ready to head out, it was my friend's wife and I were going to go because she wanted to buy him some presents. I wanted my opinion on what to get him. And everything kept stalling us, stopping us. Everything. And we just kept pushing through, and I wasn't listening to what was being told to me.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Like, stop. You're not supposed to do this. Get in the car and pull down maybe a quarter mile from the house and we're at a red light. The light turns green and she's busy jibber jabbering and talking. talking, you're talking, and I just look at her and I said, are you waiting for a certain shade of green? And she gives me a slap on the arm, like, oh, you're such a, you know, a wise guy. She's a different term than that. She gives me a slap on the arm, and then she drives through.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And then just as she does, this cable company truck comes barreling through the intersection that probably over 50 miles an hour and crushes the car that I'm in and pushed us into another car. and then pushed that car up onto a sidewalk into a store. So while I was in the car, I actually broke my neck, not horribly, but I had broken bones in my neck. So let's put it that way. I was still able to move somewhat. I had blood in my face, blood in my eyes, my eyes were cut, had said cuts from the glass exploding to my face, crushed the side of the car. I was in, so I was basically sitting in her lap, and she thought I was dead.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I figured, you know, let me just crack a little humor. So I just said, I suppose we're not going Christmas shopping today, which was immediately followed by a slap on the arm. And then she's like, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry. And I was like, don't worry about it. That didn't hurt. And then upon, you know, emergency services showing up, I could see through the blood and all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I could see they were doing the old, you know, hand across the throat, like this guy's dead without even looking in because they didn't think that I, could have survived that much damage. And each different group that came up, first the police, they did that, then the ambulance, and then they were doing that. And the cop was like, no, he's alive. He's talking.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And they had to cut me out with the jaws, get me out of it. Jaws life got out of it. And considering crash, I didn't receive any major head injuries. I had some broken bones in my neck, still able to move it, sore for a couple of months. no internal damage and uh you know i think that was some divine intervention or whatever energy is keeping me safe i pushed past it they said okay well now you got to learn a little lesson and since then i've not ignored it ever yeah sometimes it takes uh a dramatic experience to open you up to you know what's really going on and uh you know i i've had similar experiences along not dramatically
Starting point is 00:49:14 that, but just eye-opening situations where you're like, okay, from now on, I'm going to listen to that inner voice that I hear. Yes. So all that stuff has happened to you in your life, and we have a lot more to cover here. It's quite a bit. Yeah. Let's move into the more paranormal UFO flying objects, things that you talked to me about earlier. And also, you know, we did talk about the story.
Starting point is 00:49:44 earlier and I don't want to drop a bombshell, but I just want to remind you, have you talked about the Nordics? I don't remember you talking about the Nordic entities, and I just don't want to forget to talk about that. Right, no, I haven't discussed that. Right, okay. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing it, because I had it written down here. I just want to make sure I didn't miss it. Right, right, yeah. That, I didn't, you know, a lot of this stuff was happening during the same timeline in the 90s, you know, the crash, and things were just very chaotic in my life at the time. And, you know, I think a lot of times with things that have been chaotic in my life, pretty much my
Starting point is 00:50:31 entire life, and I think that's maybe one of the things that opens up the door for things to study or come in or have them more open to things. I'm not 100% short, but a lot of that stuff happens when it gets real crazy around the same. from late 80s to the early 2000s. Okay. All right. Well, let's move on to,
Starting point is 00:50:56 you know, the next situations here. Okay. Okay, so let's see. In the 90s, one of my relative zones, beautiful house, I'm probably about 17 and 18 acres of land,
Starting point is 00:51:16 backed up to state land and forest, and we used to hang out. there a lot and we had seen lights in the force moving and at first logically you want to tell yourself okay I think this is you know there's someone out there with a flashlight but with a flashlight you get the bouncing of the body of the body moves the arm swinging you know lights kind to do it things these things were very consistent they were just kind of moving in a very defined straight pattern we tried walking towards the light could never get close to it.
Starting point is 00:51:59 It always seemed to be less. And we were probably less than 75 yards from it. And it just kept moving. It wasn't huge. I would say probably, you know, maybe size of a basketball.
Starting point is 00:52:15 You know, do I, I can't explain with that hovering. So technically I consider that probably flying. We've had several other experiences in there, but they're different things. We'll discuss that. I guess we'll come back to that later.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Another incident was I was driving back from one of the Great Lakes coming down the road going towards the town. It's probably around 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock at night during the fall. So not a lot of people driving around, not tourist season, towards the town where I had family. I'm probably about 10 miles away from the town, and it's all the country. And look up and I see these four lights, and they were pretty substantial. And I'm thinking in my head, I'm going, oh, they got lights on the towers on the edges of the towers for some reason. Maybe they were looking on it. And then I realized there are no towers.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I've never seen a tower there. They certainly didn't build the tower with the two hours that I was up at the lake. Sitting there and as I got closer to it, probably 100 feet or so, they actually started moving towards me. Just imagine two sets of light, one set of lights, one on the right, one on the left, and then behind it maybe another 50 foot, the right and left side, no more than 50 foot off the ground. I opened up my window so I could hear. I heard no sound like whoever. Slowly passed over.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I'm looking at my window. I lean over the passenger side, and I'm looking up, and I see them. And the light was pretty bright, and it lit up the inside of the car somewhat. and then I just see them take off behind me. And then I'm looking in the rearview mirror and they just cut across. It seemed like a second they were miles away. And then they cut across.
Starting point is 00:54:43 If I was looking at my rear view, it would have been to the left. So it would have been the passenger or the driver's side. And then the next thing I know, like not even two seconds later, they're in front of me again coming across the road. remember a lot after that, so I don't know if I'm missing anything at the time. You know, I didn't have anybody waiting on me, so I didn't know if there's time that wasn't
Starting point is 00:55:13 there, wasn't there. I don't know if I'm missing anything. I don't have any recollection of taken or anything else, but you could definitely have that feeling that whatever it was was highly intelligent. And that was pretty nerve-wracking. Yeah. Before you go any further, I just wanted to ask you, because I know I'll forget to ask this question, when it started moving towards you, and even when it loops back around or something, it's back in front of you again, all that happened after you saw it and acknowledged it was there, do you think there's a correlation? Now, what I'm saying is when you acknowledge that there's something there, how soon after you've seen it and you acknowledge it's there did it seem like it started moving towards? word to. And because, I mean, I hear people describe these things as it almost looked like it knew, I knew it was there. Is that the sense that you got? Absolutely. When it first looked, the logical mind wants to come up with an answer or a reason. What's going on here? So in my mind, I'm sitting there, okay, it's a tower and at each end of the tower, which was maybe 20, 30 foot
Starting point is 00:56:31 apart. I'm thinking there's a light on each end. And there's a light on each end. And there's a tower. And doing some work or whatever, and there's two towers back to back. But then I'm like, oh, there's no towers there. I know there's no tower. I knew that area very well. So in your mind, you're trying to come up with a reason. And then once I realize, okay, there's no towers there as I'm getting closer to this thing, now all of a sudden, I think it realized that I realized it wasn't a tower, and that's when it started moving.
Starting point is 00:57:01 So I definitely feel that it was fully aware of me. and what I was aware of. I think it also was aware that I was aware of them. You know, I think it was more than just them being aware of me. I think they just were like, okay, he knows we're not a tower. Let's move. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I didn't mean to cut you off there. No, no, that's okay. That's fine. That's fine. This time of chaos in my life, I also had those times where, one of your previous listeners was saying, you know, they were on the couch and they had these things where I felt that whether it be a couch or bad, I've had that full body paralysis, flights and energy, probably the last time that I can remember was probably four years ago.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Since I just don't recall a lot of times, followed by blood once again, which has always seem to be a running theme. And I don't know if they were doing some... I have no idea. When this was going on, I don't know why I started seeing grays. It wasn't how it actually happened for some reason later on. I was having these flashes of these looking guys, probably half, five-foot little guys, you know, not gold-gray things. I was just seeing their cases.
Starting point is 00:59:02 When I came out of my sleep paralysis type things or still, you know, my sleep paralysis type things, or still even after all the stuff happens, you're still sitting there, okay, was it a dream? Was it this, wasn't that? And to me, it would just be too much in coincidence to sit there and say, okay, yeah, no, that's just a, you know, that's just a dream, you know. I mean, these things definitely happen.
Starting point is 00:59:33 One particular time I was really distraught about those things happening and a lot of other things that were happening in my life at the time. And one night I was out with some friends, and we were in a bar and we were drinking and my friends left I didn't even realize and I was kind of like
Starting point is 00:59:51 just in a, kind of in a dark place all of a sudden person appears before me and I'm not saying like they just puffed up I didn't see them coming but all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:00:08 I was stopped by this female and she was this is who I believe to be Nordic and Angelica the way. It's hard to explain, but just on the perfect. And I wasn't, I wasn't looking at her like, oh, wow, look at this, you know, hot babe. It wasn't anything like that. I just was like, just some kind of weird connection. And I just was like, I didn't even know what to say.
Starting point is 01:00:39 And she just put her hands on my shoulders and looked at me and either verbally said or telepathically said, don't worry, everything's going to work out and everything's going to be okay. and I just looked at her and smiled and she smiled at me and then just as quickly as she was there she went off to my left seemed to take a step past me by the time I turned around I didn't see her anymore
Starting point is 01:01:10 didn't seem like anybody else was paying attention to it maybe they were preoccupied maybe they didn't see it happen I don't know but that that's That was probably the time where I just was like, you know what, combined with the other voice or however, you can explain it with that kind of put me at ease where I was just like, you know what, life is life. Whatever comes at me, I'm going to take it. When it's my time to go, it's my time to go.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I'm not going to worry myself about things that may or may not happen. I'm just going to accept life for what it is and when it is. And since then, life's been pretty good. Wow. So that was a real turning point in your life, that experience. It was. It was. And not to say things still don't happen.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I mean, with some of my medical issues now, you know, they're still having a hard time diagnosing. But they're putting me in the autoimmune category, multiple autoimmune potential diseases. So, you know, that's going on, but I don't feel distraught about it. I'm not, like, lost and feel desperate and alone. I just have this feeling of, you know, it's going to be all right. Everything's going to be all right.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You know, whatever happens is meant to happen. And based on everything that had happened in the past, I fully believe that everything is going to be right. right. Yeah, that's really cool, man. I mean, just, you know, having an experience that kind of turns you around and stuff is just, that you can actually look back at and say that was a point in my life where things changed for the better. Right. That's really cool. Yeah, it was pretty neat for sure. All right, so we experienced the UFO flying over. I can't remember,
Starting point is 01:03:19 do you have another experience with something along those lines? Well, from the earlier, from the 70s that we've gone back to that? No, I mean, well, you experienced the objects flying over when you were in your car. Was that the rectangular or a triangular shaped object that you were talking about earlier? No, no, no, no. Oh, okay, yeah, that, okay, so the triangular thing, was actually I started
Starting point is 01:03:57 getting very interested in the cryptid field and well out in the forest various places you know I got similar
Starting point is 01:04:11 energies that I would feel that I had with those other incidents and you know I would take pictures in those areas that I was feeling the energy's coming from. And in one of the pictures, one of the ones that I sent you, there's a gray triangular, kind of almost semi-trained, lucent,
Starting point is 01:04:38 whatever it is. Craft, I don't know. Was it, it's kind of bizarre looking. You know, and you could feel free to post that on your page, if you'd like. You know, people could look at it, pick it, part whatever they want. The one I'm saying is that I felt an energy. That's what came out in it. The secondary picture that I sent you, you know, you could see some faces around
Starting point is 01:05:13 that area. That was definitely quite interesting as well. I didn't feel scared or worried or nervous. Even when I felt the energies, I would always verbally say wherever I took direction, I took the pictures in, I'd say out of respect for whatever it was, because I know there's things that we can't see. I'd say, I am going to take a picture in this direction of where I think you may be. You can either show yourself or not show yourself, but I want to just basically, I'm kind of asking the permission. and if you want to show yourself, just show yourself in the picture. And that's basically every time I take a picture, I say the same thing. And I just do it in different areas where I feel the energy. And quite a few times I've had items pop up,
Starting point is 01:06:15 whether it be asquatch looking, kinds of weird things that are kind of hard to explain. Even though that little guy that I sent you a picture of that's up on the crook of that tree, holding that stick in his hand. That's kind of an interesting one. And there's a second picture actually in that same woods. I got to show you that later on, and you could actually see two sets of legs
Starting point is 01:06:50 sticking out in the lower left-hand corner. Definitely solid. I mean, whatever it was, it was pretty solid. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't people. Right. Now, since we're moving into the pictures and stuff that you sent me, there are a few pictures that I really want to hone in on and discuss with you.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Because you sent me a ton. But you just mentioned one of the ones that was on my list to talk to you about, which was the being that was in a tree that you sent me. Definitely, you can see something. Obviously, it's not the clearest picture, so it's not like HD quality or anything like that. but it's definitely, there's definitely, it looks like something sitting in the tree holding his stick, like looking at you.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Now, when you took that picture, did you, did you see it while you took the picture? Did you know it was there, or did you sense it? I was actually outside of my, my son's, he goes to an after-school program, and I was sitting outside waiting for him. And just for some of,
Starting point is 01:08:06 reason I kind of felt you know once again I felt that little weird you know energy hey look over there and take a picture and I did and sure enough when I
Starting point is 01:08:24 because I immediately reviewed the picture that I take and I looked and there he was and I was like wow and it almost looks like he's wearing a little hat you know to me that's what it looked like anyway Yeah, to me, when I'm looking at it, it looks like he has something on his head. And it almost looks like it's longer in the back.
Starting point is 01:08:43 I don't know if that's like an arm or part of the hat. But yeah, I mean, that's incredible. Now, when you took the picture and you saw it in the picture, obviously you look back. It's not there. You don't see it, I'm assuming, right? Correct. Correct. What did you do right after that?
Starting point is 01:09:01 Did you pursue, walk over and start looking around? or did you kind of like just kind of give it space or what was your reaction? Well, I said, I said, and, you know, and I decided not to, and I know people say just take secondary pictures, just to back up to see the next shot or whatever, but the way I look at it is I want to respect whatever it is. and if it showed itself to me kind of because I asked it to or said, hey, I'm going to take a picture if you choose to show yourself,
Starting point is 01:09:46 show yourself if not, don't. I don't want to be disrespectful and just keep, you know, pounding on it and just keep, come on, give me more, give me more, give me more. And I think that's kind of when people start having negative experiences when they ask too much
Starting point is 01:10:02 or they're too demanding. And nothing is going to, good enough for them. They just got to always have the next step, the next thing. It's just, you know, I'm just grateful for, you know, whatever it chooses the show itself to me. Then I say, okay, well, thank you. And that's pretty much that. And I just kind of move on to the next thing and next area. And actually the second set of pictures that I, there's one group I said to you. I think it was 12 pictures. And this is the same spot, just a different, and it's the same day.
Starting point is 01:10:41 And it's the lower right-hand picture and there's a little black circle around the corner of that picture. If you can go to that, you can actually see the two sets of legs that I was referring to. Okay, yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, so if you can kind of zoom in on it a little bit,
Starting point is 01:11:01 you could see two legs and then one big leg and they look like the little set of legs. You can kind of see there's some kind of something standing there It's kind of being obscured by the branch. And then the other larger one, just to the left of it, you see one leg, the V of the crotch area, and the other leg's kind of out of frame. Almost looks like there's something with its head sticking above that branch
Starting point is 01:11:25 that's out of the way. Right. And then back behind that further on, maybe another 20 yards. If you look up towards the top of that little black circle, that's actually a house. So someone lives back there, but that's like probably 20 yards past where those legs are standing. Okay, gotcha. So it's just once again, I mean, this was like taken probably, you know, a minute after the other one.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah, that's interesting. In the same cluster of photos you sent me, I wanted to talk to you about the very first one where it's a footprint with, I'm assuming your foot, next to it for gauging. I find it interesting because now you probably told me before but I can't remember so you'll have to remind me but I'm assuming you were doing some kind of
Starting point is 01:12:28 Bigfoot research when you took this picture is that right? Yeah, I typically wherever I go, whether I'm with my kids or family, if we're going to be anywhere near where there's woods or forest or anything I always keep that in mind I'm always looking for something.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So this particular day, I was with my children, and we were down the back end of this path in the park, and there was this open area. Now, the dirt that we're looking at is down in the south. We have this very hard dirt. It's like they call it gumbo. When it gets dry, it's hard like cement almost. and as you can see, the thing made a decent impression.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I don't know what it is. If that is a human foot, that is an incredibly large human foot, because my foot's a 10 and a half. And the width of that thing and the length of that thing are pretty substantial. Yeah, I mean, looking at it, the print, I mean, if you're 10 and a half, that thing, I mean, it easily is 17, 18, 18, inches at least. I would agree.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Absolutely huge. And what I found interesting about it was that you see these tire tracks that it actually steps on. And you can tell just by looking at the picture, this is hard dirt. It's not like mud. But you can see these tire tracks roll through there. And whatever it was, stepped on top of these tire tracks and actually pushed down the tracks. And you can actually gauge it because on the left side of it,
Starting point is 01:14:13 and right side of it, the tire tracks are more raised, but where this print is, it's pushed down. So something literally had to push it down. And it's a very interesting photo you have there. Yeah, and, you know, I should have taken a couple more follow-up photos of, like, my own footprints, but I could tell you that I didn't leave even the slightest footprint. I probably knocked down some of those raised trademarks a little bit, you, other than seeing that, you wouldn't even be able to tell that I walked there. And that kind of, at first I was more drawn to the animal prints, which there was a bunch of those.
Starting point is 01:15:00 So I was looking at those large canine, and I was like, okay, that's really large. I know we have coyote and things in that area, so I was like, well, it's pretty huge. I mean, they were probably about the size maybe a little bit smaller than my hand, but not much. And I was like, well, those are pretty big. So that's what drew my attention. Then looking, then I see that. And I was like, wow, that thing is like really huge.
Starting point is 01:15:26 So I was like, okay, just put your foot next to it, take a quick reference shot. And I tried going heel to heel. My heel may even come a little short of the heel end of that. So I don't know. And you don't see any toes. So is it possible that it's some guy with a size 16, 18 shoe? You never know.
Starting point is 01:15:49 You never know. I don't know. All I know is that it's a freakishly large footprint and whatever it was, had a substantial weight to make that impression. Yeah. No, I absolutely agree. And, you know, I often talk about how many people can actually be walking around in the woods with those size feet.
Starting point is 01:16:11 You know, all right, so first of all, you have a footprint, a bare footprint that is huge out in the woods. So how many people are actually just walking around in the woods barefooted? And then on top of it, that big of a footprint. And, okay, so, yeah, sure. There's this really tall person walking around bare feet. Okay, cool. But over and over again throughout the entire world.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I mean, how many times do we find? How many times do we find, you know, little tiny footprints and stuff? I mean, we do. But it's like these giant footprints showing up all over the place. It's just, for me, it's, it tells me there's something else going on there. That's just, you know, my simple logic behind it and stuff. So, but it's, it's very fascinating. I agree wholeheartedly.
Starting point is 01:17:03 I think that, you know, it's, you know, to think that, that we're the only hominids of this planet when, you know, there's still so much that has yet to be discovered, whether it be in the ocean or deep dark forest, or just living on the perimeter, the perimeter of cities and towns. You know, you hear so many stories about, you know, people think you have to go 100 miles into deep forest to have these activities. But yet 90% of your sightings are minutes outside of a town, you know, and you sit there and say, okay, well, my personal beliefs, I think that they're incredibly curious about us. They probably know way more, but I certainly believe they know way more about us than we know about them. And they obviously
Starting point is 01:17:59 have quite a bit of interest, and they're constantly watching, constantly looking. I think they have a purpose. I'm not 100% sure what it is. I think they're kind of both pleased and disgusted with human. I think they're pleased on the people that are trying to actually save the planet and care about others and not the group of what I like to call them the people that all they care about is themselves and don't care about cutting habitat. Everything here on this earth was put here for our total use in the destruction, which I personally don't believe. I think, you know, everything here is a gift.
Starting point is 01:18:44 I have a gift you got to treat it tenderly. So I think they're, I think when people have, some folks have bad experiences, I think those energies or Sasquatch or cryptid to whoever you want to view it, kind of giving them the old, hey, we know what you're up to and we're going to scare the life out of you right now. and that's something you need to remember, stay out of the forest, stay away from our home and quit destroying things. And then other people who don't have such horrific experiences still may be scared, still may be worried. But I think, you know, they're kind of more gentle with those folks.
Starting point is 01:19:32 And if that makes any sense or not. No, yeah, absolutely makes sense. I mean, there's just so many different ideas out there as far as what these things are, how they react. nobody has an answer. So, I mean, all we can do is theorize about what we think they could be. And I've heard people talk about that before. Absolutely makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Now, with that triangle grayish picture, and then there was another one that I had sent you with that. That was in that same area where that big face is dead center. Now, I believe that is a Sasquatch. I think it presented itself this way to me. You know, I've, going back years and years and years, I've spent a lot of time out in the forest. Every time I could get out of the city,
Starting point is 01:20:25 go up into the mountains, all over the head, Roundbacks, Catskills, Pennsylvania, New England, pretty much anywhere where I could get into the forest, you know, with friends or by myself, 18 years old, I went into the Appalachian Trail by myself, and I went there for a little over a week just to kind of get away, hike, be one with nature. And I remember hearing, you know, he was banging, and, oh, it's probably someone building a house, you know, and like, well, you know, you're 10 miles into the forest, you know, you really think sounds again. But back then, you know, I didn't really realize a lot of these noises I was hearing was probably tree knocking, rock clacking. I've heard the mumbling voices when you hear
Starting point is 01:21:12 talking but you can't make out what they're saying you know what was it I don't know at that time cryptid didn't even pop into my mind but now looking back at it like oh they probably were you know making themselves known to me back then and I just wasn't open to it and now more open I'm more open to it
Starting point is 01:21:36 I see that you know when I take a photo themselves or something else will. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely an interesting picture with the big face that you sent me. It's a very first picture you sent me. It looks like a face. And if you, you know, there's so much debate going on about the whole woo stuff and
Starting point is 01:22:06 cloaking and stuff. But if this was a big foot, it would have to be cloaking. because it's transparent. And that's, you know, my conclusion is, you know, if it is what, you know, it looks like, it would have to be cloaking. There's really no other explanation other than maybe has some kind of way, like, you know, a reptile does
Starting point is 01:22:31 where it can kind of change the way it looks to blend in. But either way, you're talking about the woo topic, which is just a highly debated topic. and everybody gets all up in arms about. They do, and I can understand logically does it make sense. But, you know, there's actually a video on YouTube, and I believe it's either Afghanistan or Iraq. And I don't know who was taking the video,
Starting point is 01:22:59 whether it was our guys or their guys. But there's this battle going on. And in the battle, you kind of see this, you know, in Predator, when he cloaks, you kind of see that type of thing quickly running. There's some kind of explosion or something. You see this cloaked whatever it was running across towards soldiers and then running back the other way.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Now if it was still, you wouldn't have been able to see it. So I believe we possess technology that can physically make that happen. make the appearance of cloaking happen. Did we copy that from nature or something else? You know, we're supposed to be working with entities, you know, our scientists, a government. Who's to say that Sasquatch? And I've heard some people refer to one group called the ancient ones, and then some are considered more Sasquatch, even though they've very similar in appearance.
Starting point is 01:24:20 you know, who knows if they're from the same place and they're working with our government as well. I've heard stories from guys on military bases that were doing security that were briefed on. Hey, when you see these things crossing the fence and crossing over, leave them alone. They belong here and just go on their way. And they've been told, you know, leave them alone. don't bother them. And I've talked to guys who were briefed on those things. They didn't report them because they knew.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Stay away from it. That's not a topic you want to talk about. So you actually talked to people who were told to leave these things alone. Did they tell you where this took place? There was one guy who was somewhere in Florida who wouldn't specify where. But they said that when they were on duty, basically keeping in eye
Starting point is 01:25:31 and they said even with their camera systems at the time could see the heat signatures and they said okay let's go check it out
Starting point is 01:25:40 and they got within a certain distance that you know okay back off and they you know stood down basically
Starting point is 01:25:49 because they knew that okay these are supposed to be here and this is not something you're supposed to mess with they didn't go
Starting point is 01:25:55 to a lot of detail military hey listen to what I say, do what I say, and don't ask a lot of questions, and you'll be all right. And, you know, I'm sure if you progress with this show, you'll possibly have some folks that were directly given that order. And, you know, they could probably give you a little more information than I could on that. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Florida, and I think,
Starting point is 01:26:34 Have you ever heard the show Sasquatch Chronicles? I mean, with Wes Ghermer. I've probably listened to an episode or two, but I, I, I've not listened to a lot of podcasts. You know, being born the year that I was born and, you know, kind of a little weird old school. I'm still listening to A-Tracks. I'm joking about that. But, you know, I'm still not as technical. technically savvy as a lot of people. So I just kind of, you know, but, but, you know, I started
Starting point is 01:27:09 listening to some shows and that's definitely piquing my interest. And it's, it's a good place to get information for sure. Yeah, just, I bring it up because you mentioned about Florida. And I, I, I can't remember, I think it was recently, he had a guest on, uh, and it might been a repeat guest or a, second guest that with a similar story. But I think they were talking about a military base in Florida that had these Sasquatch creatures frequenting on and off the property. It sounds very familiar, similar to what you just described to me. I wonder if it's the same facility. It could very well be.
Starting point is 01:27:51 I know they have a few facilities there that are just absolutely enormous. There was one, if you remember, the crocodile hunter, Steve Irwin. He went to one of the bases that was just so massive I mean it was I don't know the actual size but they said it was like just an absurd amount of acreage
Starting point is 01:28:15 and you know a lot of it was forest lakes, ponds retention ponds and stuff like that and probably canals and you know so you know they could easily
Starting point is 01:28:32 be a huge population there and being told, hey, leave these things alone, don't mess with them, you know. So it very well could be the same place. Yeah, I mean, I'll have to look into that and see if I can dig that up and just for my own references. And I'll post these pictures that we're discussing on the website for other people to kind of check out and see. The last set of pictures that I'd like to talk to you about is the last ones you sent me. It's these prints that you found and looks like they're on cement
Starting point is 01:29:09 that you see the heel, but they're all three-toed prints. Where did you find that? Right. This is actually at my brother's house. He lives closer to New York City, and he and his wife had been looking for, some property that they could kind of get away and, you know, get away from the city.
Starting point is 01:29:37 So he bought some property with a cabin directly backed up to the Appalachian Trail. And when he, the first six months he was, you know, phased in the house, now these photos are actually a week older than the original ones. He can't find the original ones. And he said they lost probably 2% of their original size. So slowly with time, whether there's sun
Starting point is 01:30:15 bleaching or whatever, rain, they just diminished in size so much. So this is about a week later. And this is just parked his cars right outside of his garage. So it's probably less than 10 feet from the house.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Wow. And with three toes, I don't know any animal has such a wide stance or any mammal with three toes. I may be wrong, but I don't think so. And some of them you can see the stride.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Yeah. Right, exactly. And that's what I was thinking just now is you see the trackway, the stride. Did you get a chance to measure that stride length? You know, I didn't, but I'm sure someone had some kind of a computer program because my brother
Starting point is 01:31:13 foot sizes and size of 11. So if you could use that dimension, you could probably get a very accurate measurement between the stride. But I did not measure that. Okay, and that's very helpful because you see the shoe sitting next to the footprint,
Starting point is 01:31:31 and the shoe's slightly larger than the footprint, so I would say that this track is probably 10, 10.5 inches, but it's very peculiar. Now, when you were looking at the trackway, could you tell if it was like a bipedal or quadrupeda? It was definitely bipedal for sure. And actually just a few months later, I want to say this was in spring of last year. And then we went up the 4th of July weekend.
Starting point is 01:32:08 and on the actual 4th of July evening, we were hanging out and I was out on his deck of the house. And I was just kind of hanging out there by myself. And I heard a little like a snap, like a tree branch or something snapping. So I have this pretty high-powered flashlight. So I zing the light over and I see these two massive eyes looking at me. I mean, they probably were, you know, I want to say maybe 10, 11 inches apart. And they were just big and it was like way tall, whatever it was. And as it was walking the whole time it had its eyes rayed on me.
Starting point is 01:33:03 So as it was walking up through the woods, it was looking down directly at me. And I didn't see a lot of bobbing or moving it. It seemed pretty uniform. It seemed almost like it was gliding. And then it stopped, and it just sat there and stared at me. So I was like, whoa. So I knocked on the door, and I told my brother to come out. He came out.
Starting point is 01:33:29 He looked at it. He was like, wow, this is crazy. And this went out for half an hour. and then my brother-in-law came out, my sister came out, my kids were too scared to leave, my wife, she didn't want to see it, and my brother's wife, I don't remember if she saw there or not, but I don't think she was either interested or did not want to see it. I'm not 100% sure. We looked at it for a little bit, and then people were like shooting off fireworks,
Starting point is 01:34:01 and someone fairly close, because there's only a few houses on the mountain, and someone blew up something really large. I don't know if it was like a blockbuster or something, maybe a homemade device, really loud. And I remember I was startled. And whatever the thing was, you could tell the start of it kind of crouched down a little. And all of a sudden you heard like just breaking.
Starting point is 01:34:32 And then it got quiet again. And then I kept looking and then boom, there they were again. The eyes are back looking at us again. and this went out at least a half an hour, maybe even a little longer. And I was talking to it, and I was like, hey, I see you out there. I said, and we mean you no harm. I don't know what you are, who you are, or what's going on. I said, but, you know, we're not going to cause you any harm,
Starting point is 01:35:01 and we just ask you to be respectful of us as well. You know, don't scare anybody. We're not going to cause you any problems. and then just after a little bit it just kind of walked off and that was the end of it and it was I mean looking right at
Starting point is 01:35:17 the whole last fourth of July it was pretty much let me ask you this whole situation that you experienced so the lights or not the lights
Starting point is 01:35:30 the eyes are you know 10 11 inches apart and that's the first thing obviously you notice because you hit it with the flashlight could you see the body or the outline of the body at all?
Starting point is 01:35:43 You know, the second I thought I saw when there was movement, it was big. I mean, the next day I went up to where it was in that area, because there's another house just up past there. So there's probably 150 foot of woods between the two driveways and maybe 300 foot between the houses. So this thing was in the woodline. I could see where it was. I went up there and looked and
Starting point is 01:36:15 based on where I was standing and I saw the eyes this guy had to bend seven and a half, eight and a half tall and there's no doubt in my mind that's how tall this thing was and based on the eyes being
Starting point is 01:36:31 far apart they were both forward facing eyes it was like a yellowish green and collective almost growing very interesting in us. Now, typically a deer I've seen bear out in the
Starting point is 01:36:52 wild, I've seen bobcat and, you know, gear and every other kind of animal you can imagine, and they'll show interest for a short while. But over half an hour, never have I ever had an
Starting point is 01:37:08 experience of an animal. Even the bear that I saw was, you know, 100 yards away. I was by myself backpacking. You just kind of looked up at me and just back down and just kept going down the hill and going to whatever kind of abundant food source that was looking for and left me alone the whole time. Whatever this was was definitely intelligent. Hearing this story that you just shared and looking at these pictures of these tracks,
Starting point is 01:37:39 I know it's all conjecture and you really can't say for sure, but what's your gut feeling? Do you think that the tracks where this came from, this thing that you saw walking at your brother's house? I think it's related. I think it's either that particular thing that we were looking at or family of. Because what else could be bipedal that big, have that big of a stride, that wide of a footprint. And just remember, those footprints had been sun bleached for a week. so they had lost some of their mass which is
Starting point is 01:38:22 you know when my brother first saw them he was kind of shocked how big they were and he called him up he was like dude you're not going to believe this because he had known I've discussed a lot of the Sasquatch topic with him I've seen some
Starting point is 01:38:40 pretty cool videos that one video that you made reference to the white Sasquatch in Pennsylvania oh yeah you know I kind of became a little bit of a, not a fanatic, but just kind of highly interested in it. And I just you know, believe that there's definitely way more to it than most people are willing to believe. So we were talking about it. So he knew, okay, I'm there's a person to call and talk to. Absolutely. And with that, you referenced that White Bigfoot video. You know, I's been out for a while
Starting point is 01:39:13 and it's my favorite video and it's probably has a lot to do because it's from PA and so am I. There's a guy on YouTube. His name's Bigfoot Tony. He's over in England, and he does a lot of video analyzation, and he enhanced that video. I encourage everybody to go check it out. Go check out that video enhancement that he made. He just posted it maybe a week or two ago, but it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:39:37 So definitely check that out. Yeah, I'm definitely going to do that. Yeah, so, I mean, clearly there's something bipedal walking around. you saw something walking around. You got these incredible footprints. And I've never seen anything quite like it. I mean, and I'm looking at the picture itself, and that's stride length. I mean, it's pretty big.
Starting point is 01:40:03 And it looks like it's different, though. Like, the stride lengths differ where there's one long stride length. And then after that, there's a shorter stride length. And then, so I don't know if it was like walking funny or what. I don't know. But it's very interesting. but yeah Don, I think
Starting point is 01:40:20 It is and what entered my mind I'm sorry Tony I went entered my mind when I saw that that difference in stride length I was like I was thinking okay maybe something peaked its interest and it shortened its stride for a second to look
Starting point is 01:40:34 because at the time they were not in their house so no one was there on the property at all and so they had run of the property so maybe he saw a rabbit maybe saw something else whatever it was, piqued its interest,
Starting point is 01:40:48 and took a shorter stride, and then the next couple steps got longer and longer. Also, I'll let you know that he has this driveway alarm, that if anything crosses the driveway, it will alarm. During this same night, Fourth of July, what is going off all night is, are there gear crossing? Yeah, there are some gear crossing gear in there. but the one night that was pretty substantial.
Starting point is 01:41:20 There was a lot of movement across that electric beam. So, you know, that's just something else. Is it definitive? This is what it was? No, it's not. But if you put everything together between the footprints, the eyes, and this, you know, the snapping of the twigs, the Fourth of July explosion,
Starting point is 01:41:42 and the thing kind of was startled. you know, it just kind of, to me, adds up. For sure, absolutely. I mean, it's just something funny is going on, you know, and, you know, you're left drawing your own conclusions. But when you see the pictures and you have the story of those eyes that you saw, it's definitely, to me, there's, sounds like something's going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:08 To wrap things up, now, I know you've had a lot of experiences, and we could probably talk for hours about a lot of different things. But one thing I definitely. wanted to kind of come back to is, and maybe this will help tie things up. I have no idea, so I could be wrong by saying that, but you mentioned earlier to me before we came on about how your son has either seen something or is seeing things. Would you like to talk about that at all? Yeah, I could do that. My youngest is we, before the house we live in now, we lived in a house just down the road and it had an upstairs and a downstairs.
Starting point is 01:42:52 So the kids' bedrooms were upstairs and our bedroom was downstairs. They never wanted to sleep in that room. When I, later on, we moved into the new house, I asked my son Christopher, he said, yeah, Daddy, there was this black guy with red eyes. always at the top of the stairs trying to get me to come up. I was so scared. That's why I always slept with you. My older son never verbalized that to me,
Starting point is 01:43:42 but when he was really young, he used to look at something that we couldn't see, and he would laugh and laugh and laugh and look at it and point at it, but he still, to his day, is not verbalized what that was. but moving into our new house, he has seen that same, and I don't know what it was, but it was terrifying to him, where he was coming over to our room from his room, and he saw it over by our living room, over by our dog's kennel, and it was just standing there and looking at him. So I listen, I don't sleep very well, and I hear a lot of the noise so I can hear him just running,
Starting point is 01:44:32 and he just dives into bed with my wife and myself. And it got the point what was happening so often. I started, you know, like looking for answers, what am I dealing with here. You know, the red eyes, when I hear that, you know, glowing red eyes, I typically think of evil, demonic. I may be wrong, I don't know, but that's kind of, and I felt kind of weird energies. It just would never show it itself to me. So I looked around and I tried to find some answers.
Starting point is 01:45:17 So one of the solutions that came to me was smudging. The native folks, First Nation folks, and other folks I've used it for many years. I figured if it was good enough for them, I'm going to try it as well. And as I waited for my whole family to be out of the house, smudged the whole house, and I actually felt that energy was not happy with my whole house. whole, like all the hair of my body stood up as I cleared each room. But I just did it in God's name, and I just kept repeating the same things. You're not welcome here. This house is a house of light. It's a house of God. You need to leave now. And I just cleared each room, each closet,
Starting point is 01:46:11 the water, and I cleared the inside, outside, around each window, each door. And we've not had physical entity come in. He says that sometimes it comes to me as dreams to do there. That was a pretty scary thing to deal with for him. Yeah, I'm sure. Now, you said that, so basically this entity happened or showed itself in both different houses, right? Okay. And how old is your son? Right now he's seven, so it's been happening since he's about one of the things. I know a lot of the stuff that happens sometimes is generation to generation to generation. I know I had a lot bizarre experiences, not necessarily blowing red eyes, but just that, you know, the things,
Starting point is 01:47:27 so I think a lot of those things can happen generation to generation really follow families around. That energy come here because of me, possibly, I don't know. I just every night before I put into bed, I say a prayer, I, you know, try to put his mind at ease, let him happy things, know that God's with him, and, you know, always say, hey, when you're in your dreams, if it comes to you in your dream, just think of, you know, surround yourself with light and with the love of God and just tell him he cannot be here.
Starting point is 01:48:05 He's got to go now. And he's starting to do that and he says that. Okay. Yeah, that's very interesting. And it's always one of those things where with kids, it's very sensitive. I mean, it's one thing for you to sit here and tell me things that you're experiencing as an adult or even have experienced
Starting point is 01:48:26 as a child, but then it's a whole other thing when you're sitting here telling me this is happening to my child who is not even 10 years old. You know, that's... Right. It's messed up. I mean, like, it's just one of those things we just would be like, let the kid alone, you know? And it makes me, and I just had the hair just stood up on my body right now. It's really, it's, wow, I'm getting some crazy feelings right now, but, uh, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:48:59 When he expressed that to me and I saw the terror and his little eyes, you know, as a father, I'm very, well, I didn't get that from my father. My father could have cared less whether I lived or died. And I don't carry any negativity about that. But I knew it was wrong then, and I know that was wrong now. And I'm highly protective and loving of my family and would lay my life down. they're not even thinking about it to protect them and save them. So when something
Starting point is 01:49:36 like this happens, you know, it just could be devastating. But I'm typically a person of action and I was like, okay, so what do I got to do? So checking around and doing this and doing that and falling back on things I've heard and things I've seen
Starting point is 01:49:57 and things I've been taught pointed me in that direction. Continued after that, I was going to go and have some professionals come and handle it. I'm not talking like paranormal researchers. I'm talking more along the religious line,
Starting point is 01:50:18 having a priest or a pastor or somebody come out and, you know, bless the house and all that. But it seems physically it has not been back into the house since I've, at least not that we're aware of since I've cleansed the house. Okay. Wow. Yeah, man. That's some heavy.
Starting point is 01:50:44 stuff, especially when it's happening in your blood. Yeah. Well, it is. It is. You know, before we get out of here, do you have any parting words you'd like to share with people that maybe are experiencing similar things that, you know, either currently experiencing things that you are or even have in the past? I mean, just to summarize things, would you have anything that you'd like to share with people? Yeah, I'd like to, you know, let folks know that if you are having any experiences that you're unsure of let that affect your psyche, you've got to realize that you have to, that you have.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Use it. Don't be scared of it. Research, find out, educate yourself. You know, like I said, when I was younger, I was talking. terrified. I mean, the first time I saw a ghost, I was horrified. I mean, I remember it like it was yesterday. I was at my uncle's house and someone broke out of the jail
Starting point is 01:51:59 close by so that they were all out and they called the house and said, okay, someone broke out locked doors. So I went over to lock the door and there was these little paintings of glass and I looked out. There was this icy blueish eye. I kind of looked like he was wearing Civil War garb and he was looking
Starting point is 01:52:17 up the road. And then it turned around and locked eyes with me. And I just remember my hair stood up and I just was terrified. And I just ran some behind the couch, put blankets up on myself. I was hiding. And, you know, now that I see and hear stuff, it doesn't affect me that way. I'm not scared anymore. I'm not scared.
Starting point is 01:52:38 And I think that, you know, that gives allow yourself to feel those emotions. I think it gives anything negative. It gives it energy. And that's certainly something you don't. want to do. And education is a way to go because you can learn how to handle those things. And I'd also like to say, thank you to you and your show. Appreciate what you're doing. And I recommend other folks step forward and tell their stories. Right on, man. I recommend the same thing, definitely, because we just, we want to share people's stories and give them a platform to be heard on.
Starting point is 01:53:19 It's something that I, I'm a big fan of the Sasquatch Chronicle show. It's kind of the first podcast I ever listened to personally. And that's the common theme that I heard on that show where people were saying that, excuse me, people were saying that it's therapeutic for them to actually share their story and get it off their chest. And that's exactly why I named the show the way I named it, the confessionals. It's literally people coming forward, confessing what they saw, what they've experienced, getting it off their chest by telling somebody, telling people, moving on or diving more into the topic, you know, because sometimes people, by able to expressing it to somebody, they're able to then dive more into it and try to figure out what they experienced
Starting point is 01:54:04 because now they got past the initial, oh my gosh, I experienced that, who do I talk to? And now they're able to move forward with it. And some people do the exact opposite. They share their experiences and it's like, okay, I actually feel better now and I can move on in life. So, yeah, I really appreciate that, man, because, you know, there's a lot of people out there experiencing things that they just, they have no idea, they have no clue what they experienced and they have no idea how to even go about talking to somebody about it. And they're just kind of like left living with, you know, post-traumatic stress into really. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Absolutely. Yeah. Well, Don, I really appreciate you coming on. Thanks for sharing what you shared. And, you know, maybe we'll have you on again some time to share more of your stories that you've had. I have a whole bunch more for you time. It would be a pleasure to come back on. Absolutely, man.
Starting point is 01:54:56 All right, brother. Well, I'll talk to you later, okay? All right. Sounds good. Thank you so much. All right. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, I would really appreciate it if you would rate and review the show on whatever podcatcher you listen to the show on. It could be iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, tune in, pod bean. It doesn't matter to me. But if you listen to the show on a podcatcher, I would really appreciate it if you rated and reviewed the show there. If you want to go to the website, I have posted the pictures that me and Don were talking about tonight,
Starting point is 01:55:32 so feel free to do so at the Confessionalspodcast.com. And tonight's exiting song was written and performed by David from last week's show. I thought it was a great song, and I definitely wanted to play for you guys to hear. So I hope you guys have a great week. I hope you guys stay safe. And I'll see you next Saturday night right here on The Confessionals. filled with laughter But that's a sad song
Starting point is 01:56:49 As a side song filled my heart Could it be that sadness plays the part Of making one fee The spark that sets the blaze I will be the wind that finds All to begin with my arm Drove all night so you could hold me in your Words to end all others
Starting point is 01:58:00 But it's a sad song Could it be the sadness plays the part that sets the blaze? I will be the wind of the fan all to begin again. Fingers in my walking in a sad song. Went to my front door because you hadn't been there, but it's a sad song. It's a song filled. Be the sadness play. The park that sets the blaze.
Starting point is 01:59:40 I will be the winded fans all to begin. I would dedicate the song to you.

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