The Confessionals - RELOADED | 303: The Bigfoot Lights

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

In episode 303: The Bigfoot Lights, we talk to Dustin who is a Native American with some amazing experiences. It all started out when he and his ex-girlfriend were driving back home from college to show off their new baby girl to their families. On their drive that night they saw a strange streaking light that was soon accompanied by more. As this experience continues these lights seemed to be very aware of them and triangulated on them as they drove. What follows is more lights coming from the lights in the sky, dropping down and following them as they drove. Dustin consulted with a medicine man that told him these lights were bigfoot and they call them the star people.The Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0AFFILIATESGet your Nephilim Blaster 2000: https://alnk.to/9mnHak1Bluecosmo Satellite phones: https://alnk.to/e769EipSee Bigfoot with Sionyx night vision: https://alnk.to/bEhxr3FEmergency medical with My Medic: https://alnk.to/dpr6QM4Black Beard Fire Starters: https://alnk.to/4BFcIbePrepare with Valley Food Storage: https://alnk.to/2uG55AOEcoFlow Power Generators: https://alnk.to/flvpAQwGoDark Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/5jke3rkEMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSFACTOR MEALS: factormeals.com/confessionals50SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsHello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionalsfree Promo Code: "confessionalsfree" for FREE BREAKFAST FOR LIFE!!!CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

Merkel Media I guess it's time to go back in time Are you telling me you built a time machine Kind of a Dolion Time is but a stubborn illusion I have a lot of memories

Of the past People are time traveling within themselves Time travel Is possible This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long,

boning fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant.

With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really, fast and spears, Dan, it holds them up like this. Somebody else, shoot them in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. I feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two small gray entities pulling it. It's pushed and I touch air because I know I'm seeing a monster.

Okay, I reload it. Welcome to the Sharper, you're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Either way works for me, just get a hold of me. If you want more shows every week on Thursdays, we release a bonus show to members only on the website.

So if you want to hear more of the confessionals on a weekly basis, go ahead and check it out at the confessionalspodcast.com. Just hit the join button and you can become a member today. Now, this week we have Dustin coming on the show. And Dustin actually did a two-part show with me. is an overtime show again. It was not supposed to air this soon, but because of what happened this week, I feel like I just needed to get it out so that I can move on from conspiracy kind of things on this platform. Now, what you're about to hear on this episode is not conspiracy. Dustin has a lot of paranormal experiences, Bigfoot lights, all that stuff. We're going to get into it on this show.

And then in the overtime segment, we actually recorded some things that were happening about a month ago. This was recorded on December 11th. And when you hear it. hear what I have to say and what he has to say almost a month ago, it's a little prophetic. It's almost like, wow, you hear what we have to say, and then you look at what's happening today, and you're thinking, spot on, and actually kind of worse than what they were projecting. So that's going to be on the overtime segment, and I hope you guys go ahead and listen to that if you're members. If you're not a member, all you got to do is be a member on the website, and then you can click the overtime segment. It'll open up for you, and you can listen to the second hour of this

conversation I have with Dustin. I'm going to play a trailer for that conversation right after this introduction. So let's get to Dustin and the Bigfoot Lights right after this trailer. Let's go. That's stuff that they will snatch people up for and never hear from them again. But I mean, what do you do? This is freaking Orwellian to the max, man. Orwellian to the max.

The fact that we are speaking in private because the conversation can't go public, that's more well again. They had people in that book who were reporting other people saying things that they weren't supposed to say and thinking how they weren't supposed to be thinking. There were things in that book called Thought Police for a reason.

And we are now living amongst thought police. So I have to take my segment that is extremely important, put it behind a membership wall so that only people who have access to the privacy of that can access it. Because if I have it published and that gets in the wrong hands, I might disappear.

That's how, that's what's going on right now. This is what's coming. This is what's coming. It's, man. I know. And I try to, I try to, I pay attention closely because I want to try to like pinpoint exactly when things are going to get really bad. and I go back and forth between, oh, it's next month. And then I'm like my optimistic side where that wants to believe that, okay, we got some time and maybe I can start business, get rich, and break free from the system.

But like, I don't know. I mean, what do you think? Do you think we got until, you know, maybe a year from now, things will be drastically different if nothing changes or is it going to play out for a number of years? It's going to get worse and worse as time goes on until they reach their dystopia. That's what's going to, that's what's happening. So that's what I was trying to portray earlier. I had a hard time saying it. But like, like, we're here in time.

And it's this rough. This is freaking rough. We ain't used to this. But the road to dystopia gets progressively worse. All right. Today we got Dustin on the show. Dustin, what is going on, man? Not a whole lot.

Just, uh, just ready for this interview. Yes, sir, yes, sir. So we got done talking here and ranting a little bit about current events. So as the time that it is right now where we're speaking, it is December of 2020. And, you know, if people are hearing this months later, maybe the world's changed a lot between now and then. But as a right now, you and I just got done ranting for about 45 minutes to an hour about what's going on in the world. And you brought some things to my attention off the CDC website. The title of this article, and I hope it's the article you're referring to, but it says, in-term operational considerations for implementing the shield approach to prevent COVID-19 infections in humanitarian settings. And this is up the CDC website, and you told me that it talks about basically taking people who have COVID-19 and putting them in some kind of quote-unquote health camps, right?

Yep, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I got to say when I read it, it just really made the hair stand up on the back of my neck because I know what they are. And what they want to do is in the name of COVID, they want to take people, put them into camps. And we got the space for these camps now because, I mean, let's face it, schools are closed. stadiums are closed. There's all these large spaces that are no longer being occupied because of

everything being shut down. Now they got the space to put these camps into place and everybody is going to be crying for reopening the economy. Well, this could be one of their ways that they'll say that we can is by shielding the immunocompromised and the old. And I've already heard people talk about it. said, why didn't we just shield people away from, you know, the at-risk people and just carry on with the economy? Why did we have to shut everything down? So that tells me that there could be support for it right away. And I mean, people won't really know what they truly are until it's already implemented. Two things that made me scared about it, though, was that one was it said it may have the appearance of looking forced.

That right away red flagged to me. And the other part that didn't sit right with me was that it said that if an outbreak were to happen in one of these facilities, it could be disastrous for the people inside. And I mean, I... It's laying the groundwork for a very similar situation we saw in Nazi Germany. essentially is what you're saying. It's setting to take them. And I'll tell you that

they have camps like you said. I know, let me put it this way. I've been told by somebody that possibly in January this year from a lot of travel outside my house, I will be probably visiting this guy here in Pennsylvania

who knows of a location. And he told me this, I want to say last year, before all this happened. So 2019, he said that he knows of a location that's not far from Raven Rock, which is an underground military base in Pennsylvania that looks like an empty internment camp just sitting there waiting to go. And he said the only way you can see it, he said the only way you can see this place is a certain time of the year, which is right now in wintertime, when the leaves are off the trees and you're on a certain ridge and you look out, you can see it

through binoculars. And so it's pretty well hidden, apparently. And I'm going to, going to see if I can go find this place. Maybe they're going to, you know, they'll see me and they say, hey, that's our first member. Come on down. You're not going home. I don't know. It's a very serious situation we're living in right now. And recently, the people who are listening to this, whenever this airs and stuff, you probably have noticed already by then that I've become very vocal about this kind of stuff because I just don't care anymore. I think it's time to stand up and fight against the dystopian regime that's trying to come in here. but I say all that, Dustin, to say that you and I are going to actually go in a different

direction right now with your UFO alien Bigfoot experience, kind of that story. And then we're going to kind of hang around stuff for an overtime section talking about all this stuff. And so people, if they want, they can go ahead and check out the overtime section if they're members on the website. But Dustin, let's get into this experience that you had where it started out seemingly, if I remember correctly, it started out seemingly pretty innocent where it was just like you saw a light in the sky, did something funny, and then things kind of snowballed from there. So why don't you just kind of take it away, brother? All right. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, it did kind of just progressively build throughout the night. So this happened, let's see, 2011 in the

middle of the winter. And my daughter, my first daughter had just been born. And my ex and I, we're not together anymore. She, she and I brought her back to the reservation where we're both members from. And this is in north central, North Dakota called Turtle Mountains. And so we visited family and then we're going both going to school in Grand Rapids, Minnesota, which is northern Minnesota, deep in the woods. I mean, it's pretty far into northern Minnesota. And so, I mean, it's like overall like five or six hour drive between the two places. And I don't know, for some reason we left at like 10 p.m. I don't know, something like that.

We find ourselves, you know, driving late at night. And so as we are getting to Grand Forks and heading east, I'm looking down to the south, and I'm a passenger in the car, our baby's in the back, and she's driving. And I see a white streak of light just shoot across the sky. And when I noticed it, it kind of right after that hooked down, downward, like it changed directions towards the ground. And a little bit after this arcing motion, not like a 90 degree or anything, kind of more of an arc. It, the streak of light light stopped. And in its place where it stopped was this twinkling red, blue light light.

And I, you know, I was like, what was that? You know, and I just kept staring at it. I didn't say anything immediately to my ex. And so I'm just like checking this thing out and staring at it. And I was like, well, that was really odd. And so, you know, we continue on our drive and we eventually get into Minnesota. Well, after gassing up and I think Park Rapids, Minnesota, we were heading off and we still got, I don't know, hour or so left to go. And at this time, it's about 3 a.m. It's really late. And we're both

wide awake. I don't know, must have, I think we were drinking an energy drink or something and just trying to get home. And the next thing that happened was another streak of white light hooks down towards the ground in its place of red, blue, white, twinkling light. And this time she saw it too. It was right in front of us. We both could see it out the windshield of the car. And we're both like, did you see that? Did you see that?

And we're both confirming to each other. We saw it. And then that's when I tell her about the other one that I saw that by Grand Four. and that one was still visible too. And so now we got two of them, you know, one to like kind of the right of the card, one to the very front of us. And I mean, they appear to be just looking at us. Like, if I can describe it, it's more like they're in the atmosphere,

but it's relative size. I think these, whatever they are, the intelligent, you know, design of this appearance is made to look like a star. So when you're looking at it with the eye, it just looks like kind of another star in the sky, but it's twinkling rapidly different colors. And so, I mean, you'd have to be looking for it to notice it. But, I mean, we saw the streak with the change in direction. And so, I mean, I guess that's about the size of what we're seeing, something about the size of a star, but I mean, coupled with hooking towards the ground and, you know, seeing two of them do the same thing. We knew something was going on. And then the next

thing that happened was a third one. I mean, after the second one, I was kind of like eyes all over, like behind us, above us and just like wherever I could look outside while we were driving, I was doing. And then a third one hooked down towards the ground. and stopped at about the same elevation or, you know, angle from where we could look up at it. And another light. So now there's three of them, twinkling lights, and they just kind of have us triangulated. And the next thing that kind of happened was was really, really strange. we started to have to slow down for deer and we're swerving around deer and then the next thing you know they're so thick we had to slow down to like 10 miles an hour we're like putzing along sweaving between deer like I've never seen anything like it in my life we had about like 30 deer in our headlight in front of us and I mean, it just felt like being in the twilight zone.

Like, just that eerie feeling, middle of the night, winter, like 30 deer in our headlight, we got these twinkling lights like surrounding us. And we're just like kind of just like freaking out, not saying much at this point. We're like, I don't know what's going on. And we get through this kind of wall of deer and we're able to kind of speed back up. and I am monitoring the situation between all these lights, you know, as closely as I can as she dries. And the next thing I see is the one behind us, two white balls of light dropped from the sky, dropped from it. This twinkling light, two orbs just fall to the ground.

Sorry, no, not the one behind us, the one in front of us. Yeah, sorry. So the one in front of us, two balls of light, drop. And this just really brought it up another level because we both saw it. And it was directly in front of us. And I mean, we've seen it. And it just kind of disappeared into the tree line. And mind you, this is Minnesota that we're driving through now.

There is trees everywhere, you know, and rolling hills and roads that. that wind left, right, up, down. That's just kind of how the roads are in Minnesota. And so we keep driving along, and next thing you know, we started to see a white light kind of pulsing on and off, on and off. And it was off in the distance through the trees. So all you can see is just like flickering of this light

at when it's on in the distance through the trees so you can only see parts of it and then we get closer and closer and you can just see it you know more more clear as we get closer to it and it's it's just kind of very rhythmically and kind of like if you turned a dial for a light you know how it's not like it just was instant on instant off it was more of a fade on fade off and very rhythmic and we're getting closer and then we notice there's a second one and we get closer and closer. Finally, we're right up on it and we stop, she stops the car and we're staring directly at the two orbs that fell from this thing. Except I don't know how these things must have moved or the thing in the sky moved because it was still off in the distance, you know, looking like the same distance away.

But we're staring at the two orbs, white orbs that we've witnessed fall from beneath it. And we're probably only like 30 feet away. And one is about six feet off of this kind of marshy swamp to our left. And the other one was like six feet above it. And about the size of a basketball, there are just this pure, brilliant white light. And it just kind of fades on and fades off,

fades on, fades off, and this pulsing rhythmic, and they're doing it together in perfect unison. And we're staring at it, car completely stopped, windowed down, and we're just in awe. Like, there's nothing holding it up. We were thinking maybe radio tower,

but I mean when the lights illuminated everything around it you saw nothing they were just hovering there just I mean it blew our minds like we didn't know what we were staring at I felt more excitement than fear I was ready to get out of the car and go walk right up to it and like see what's going on because I I knew I was witnessing something incredible that I might not ever see again. And I'm like, this is my opportunity to get some sort of answers of like, you know, aliens or what have you. And I wanted to explore, but she got scared and kicked down the gas pedal and we took off. And so we're probably cruising pretty fast now.

She wanted to get the heck out of there. And the next thing that happened after that was, that's why I got it kind of mixed up, is because the next thing was one orb, white orb, fell from the one behind us. And so that one fell to the ground. And we're driving along, just trying to get home. You know, it's like that three o'clock hour.

There's no cars, by the way. we didn't pass a single car this whole time. And a few minutes after we saw the one fall behind us, from the one behind us, we're starting to notice what looked like maybe some headlights or something coming up rolling around the hills and the trees behind us. And as it got closer, we noticed it's just one light.

So we're like, okay, maybe this is a car with a headlight out or a motorcycle in the middle of the winter. or like, oh, you know, maybe. And but in the back of our minds, we're both, we're both thinking, you know, or we just saw fall from the sky, you know, but we didn't say it. And we're driving and it's getting closer and it's gaining on us. And it's getting so close that I thought it was going to come directly through the car. And before I let that happen, so me being Native American, we pray with tobacco.

And tobacco brings our, takes our prayers to the Creator. And at the time I smoked, so I grabbed a cigarette. I broke it in half. And I prayed with it. I said, okay, creator, that's enough. she's scared and I threw the tobacco out the window as we were going over a hill and this thing was very close behind us and we went over the hill I threw the tobacco and it didn't it didn't follow us anymore it stayed on the other side of the hill right after I threw the tobacco

out the window and said my prayer. And so we just kept driving and like we just had a near miss and we're both shaking up pretty good and she said

the next thing she saw was a green light beamed down on the other side of the hill we just passed and take up that thing that was chasing. us. And then this is her again. She said she

had this mental image of like an old Indian man in her head, like, kind of laughing. You know, just like, I don't know, just that's what she told me is like she had this picture of an old Indian man kind of just laughing in her head. And oh yeah, and then we We reached some more deer. We had to slow down again and get through some more deer.

And then this whole time, all three twinkling lights were still visible, still triangulated, one in front of us, one behind us, and one to our right. And they stayed in those exact positions until we got all the way back to Grand Rapids. and we got home. And I mean, luckily we made it home. And, uh, and, uh, and, uh, yeah, those lights kind of just stayed in that, in that exact formation. And, um, but later on, I realized at first when I had this experience, I thought that the deer were attracted to whatever activity was going on.

But through listening to your podcast and the Sasquatch Chronicles, I realized that the animals are terrified of whatever is going on. So it makes sense to me now that we went through two waves of deer. They were moving radially out of the region that we went into. We hit the first wave. because they were all moving radially away from the hot spot where we were witnessing the two orbs. And we were just witnessing terrified deer, what we were witnessing.

They were all running away from whatever that was. And then we hit the other wave because they were running in the opposite direction away from the, the orbs. And so, I mean, I just, yeah, kind of years later, I put that part together. but that's that's pretty much that that whole experience there so how does bigfoot enter into this equation so uh yeah actually um the next day i went to the college that i was going to um at taska community college and uh i had started my engineering degree at this college at this college. And it's a great college, by the way. I mean, they have a really good two-year,

you know, junior college for engineering program there. And I was taking Ojibwe language, which is what I am. I'm Ojibwe Native American. And so I was taking, you know, that language class and was taught by a medicine man named Larry Aiken. And, you know, God rest his soul, he's passed on since. You know, I wish I could call him up sometimes and just talk more with him about this. But, you know, I got to talk to him at length about it the next day. I just, I went right to him because I knew who to go to. I was like, I need to tell Larry about this.

and when I did, he told me, well, I told, I told him the whole story that I just told you. And he had this knowingly smirk on his face as I told him everything. And, you know, he just shook his head and, you know, had that kind of smirk on his face. And when I was finished, he told me what those balls of light were. He said, you know, bold face, no, you know, wavering that those balls of light were Bigfoot. And I was like, Bigfoot, what? And he said that you were seeing them in spirit form. And had they presented themselves in physical form, you would have been terrified.

And I was like, wow. And he went on to tell me that Bigfoot can become invisible. And that's why, you know, people can't find him. He doesn't want to be found. He's got, he can become spirit form or invisible. And that's essentially why they haven't been discovered widely anyways. I mean, I know and like you probably know. and like West German know that they there's tons of people out there that know they exist

but yeah I mean it's just not widely known or accepted because you know those reasons there and he then said that it was the star people that that chased us that night and they said that the star people watch over my daughter. And I went to him for an Indian name, you know, a Native American name for my daughter. And it turned out, you know, he can't, he, uh, informed us that, uh, the spirit world, they want her name to be, uh, evening star.

And so that's her, that's her, uh, Native American name. and and yeah mine's actually a white cloud and so yeah i mean if i could ask him today i'd definitely want to know more like why are they watching her and you know does that mean that they're going to be like abducting her occasionally or you know like are they friendly or you know i mean i guess I got that impression because he said it like, you know, it wasn't something to be worried about, but he didn't say those words either, though. So, I mean, I have so many questions. He's, he's no longer with us, but all I got is, you know, just what I was able to talk to him at the time.

And it was just a mind-blowing experience. I mean, it changed my life. Like, since then, you know, I've been obsessed about the subject. And it, you know, completely, I mean, I've had paranormal experiences before from Native American ceremonies. And I kind of want to touch on, you know, talk about some of those experiences too. But like I knew there were the spirit world and stuff. But that just confirmed to me, you know, that the alien, you know, phenomenon is real. I experienced it.

And after listening to, you know, many podcasts, like, it's confirmed to me. Like, it's very consistent with the red, blue, white, and then green is also in there, too. But we weren't close enough to see some of those colors. But it's very consistent with a lot of descriptions that have been told by many other eyewitness accounts. And just, you know, the, the, lights, man. There's always the talk about the lights with Bigfoot. And so, I mean, for me, that right there just kind of confirms it for me what I saw. And, uh, yeah. So what was your, uh, thoughts about, you know, this kind of stuff, like everything you just relayed to me. What was

your thought about this kind of stuff before your experience? You said it was life changing. So I'm assuming you didn't really pay attention to it much. Yeah. You know, I, like, I actually struggled with drinking and, like, I had a really bad drinking problem before. So I didn't pay attention to much other than just like me wanting to party and stuff. But ever since that experience, I sobered up shortly after that. And it, because, you know, actually, this is weird. too because after my daughter was born, that was the first time my mom came to me and told me, you need to start getting prepared because things are going to get really, really ugly in the future.

She told me this 10 years ago. And, yeah, that's weird. I just kind of came to me now. And this always, like, kind of makes me wonder, too, you know, is what's going on today? like are the are the E.T. is going to make an appearance? Are they going to, you know, are they going to tie into it somehow? Like, I just, I don't know. But yeah, I mean, my mom came to me and told me that. And ever since then, you know, I sobered up and I've, I've had that preppers mindset. But I have been unable to, until recently, have the financial means to

do anything to prepare. But today, you know, I started a painting business and, you know, money, money in my areas is really good for that. And then, yeah, I actually graduated with my engineering degree from NDSU. So I work as a civil engineer for Indian Health Service now. And so now I have a bit more. money and I have invested heavily in in preparations. And I can tell you, yes, I can tell you right now, we can go off the grid and live

perfectly fine for the next year. I mean, I wish I had more, but the next year with with no power, water, et cetera, like we're good to go. And, you know, anybody's long term plan has to have renewable food. source in there. So obviously, I mean, there's hunting and fishing in there that and in Minnesota, there's plenty of natural resources to get that. So, I mean, yeah, I'm, I'm ready for whatever's coming. And, yeah, I mean, it just, it kind of tied into there a little bit now. Do you, do you, does your mom give context to that, though? I mean, does she like say anything specific?

Or was it just more in general, like, the world's going to be getting. really bad in the future as, you know, as somebody who's lived a life and has seen things unfold, some people have the wherewithal to project things going into the future. In fact, that's kind of what I do. I mean, I recently started really referring to myself more as a futurist that I am a conspiracy theorist because I really, I'm not as much of a guy who looks back at like, you know, JFK and things like that as much as I look at the world around me and project where it's going. Is that kind of how your mom was too? She is, she is now. So my mom is divorced from my dad and, you know, they're both happy in

their lives now. So she remarried to somebody that I, you know, I have respect for too. And he served in Vietnam and he's a prepper. And he's a prepper. And the other thing is like, so like, you know, I just started reading Rich Dad, Poor Dad, and Robert Teosaki, the author, he was in Vietnam too, I think it was. And he said when he got back from the war, he said, boys, America has changed. And he was talking about, you know, all the hippies and whatnot, trying to protest the war for, you know, I get it for good reasons. but it was the very first time in history that the population was very not supportive of troops, you know, and they had to change out of their fatigues. And, like, you know, they said, they told them to do that and just like kind of disperse after they leave the airport.

Well, he's, you know, so my mom's husband served in Vietnam, Robert Kaiasaki served in Vietnam. they got military economics background education. So they understand true history, not the history that's taught in classrooms in America, but true history of economics and world governance, systems of governing. And for the past hundred years, it's been the battle between communism and capitalism.

But getting back to my mom, so she's married to him. I think he probably influenced some of her feelings about it, but she straight up had a dream of my grandfather that, so her dad, my grandfather, that I never got to meet, unfortunately. And he was a great man. He fought in World War II. and my other grandfather fought in World War II and liberated the Nazi death camps. And so she had a dream of the grandfather that I didn't get to meet, came to him,

her and said, you need to prepare. Things are going to get very ugly in the future. and you just need to be ready. And that was kind of all I remember from what she told me. And she told me that, you know, like about 10 years ago. And I've been meaning to bring it up to her again. But, you know, for sure, she got a warning from her late father warning her, warning her that things were going to happen.

And in the, you know, 10 years since then, we've, we've had a lot of confirmation of this through our ceremonies and sweat lodges that things are going to happen. I've even heard of like the Christian church. There's been prophecy in the Christian church that in our area, at least, the Christian church is going to lean heavily on the Native American. and there's going to, you know, Native American population, and there's going to be a partnership there. And I think it's because, you know, our native reservations are ready. They have prepared.

And we have a lot of people that live in poverty, and they already essentially live off the grid. And there's, you know, the general population don't have any survival skills. They don't know how to live off the land. They don't know which foods to pick and berries to pick or where they can get food out of nature. And that knowledge is still retained on the reservations. And it's a combination through culture and tradition and just plain old resourcefulness and need.

and so I think when I put my analytical mind to it, I think that's what they mean, is that the Christian churches are going to need some help from native communities. And I can totally see that happening. And yeah, I forgot what was the other question? No, I don't think there was. So, no, but no, but I do want to backtrack here a little bit because I don't want to get away from this original experience before we go into the,

because I know you did, well, now I'm drawing a blank as to, what was it? You did some kind of ceremony. I remember reading it in the email. Oh, yeah. Yep, Sundance. Sun dance. Thank you. Thank you.

I got Star Child on my mind. And for star people, and I had the S's. But, yeah, so before we get into that, though, I want to backtrack to the initial experience. and you said that your wife, she saw at one point an old Indian man laughing. Was that like a vision or was it a dream? It was in the moment though, right?

It was in the moment. It actually like my ex, like my ex, we weren't actually married, but my current wife, a different person, and we got some babies now too. But yeah, my ex said that she in the moment saw like an old man, Indian man,

kind of laughing. She had that picture in her head. Yeah, I mean, I found that interesting and just the connection with Larry Aiken telling us, you know, was able to tell us what happened. And he said that they come from a star, not too far from us.

Pledes, I think that is, something that I remember hearing. And, but yeah, I don't know. There's like a sister planet, apparently. And they come from there is what I was told. Speaking of the stars and star people, you said that, and I don't remember the man's name. I'm not going to be able to pronounce it anyways.

But he told you about the star people. And those were the lights in the sky. but the lights in the sky, if I heard you correctly, two white orbs fell from them onto the ground. He said those were Bigfoot. How does that kind of tie together, do you think? Well, I mean, if I accept what he says and I do, there is a connection between Bigfoot and ETs.

What the connection is exactly, I don't know. Are they ETs themselves? I mean, I think that's a definite possibility. Or do the eight ETs, maybe the ETs brought them here from a different planet and they just, you know, it's like Star Wars where they got, you know, wukies and these other different alien races, they just kind of commingle and whatnot. And to be honest, I think that there's multiple alien races out there. And, you know, they talk about the grays. So those are probably the most famous.

And then there's the reptilian. And some people jokingly refer to them as the lizard people. And then there's the Nordics. And they're like a tall. slender type alien. And I really think that all of all those different types exist. And so what Bigfoot is exactly? Maybe it's another type of alien.

And, you know, but they have this spiritual aspect, too, that that is really curious. When they, when they can become pure spirit form, I think that, you know, they just have, they're much more in touch with their. spiritual side than humans are. And I personally think that they could be, they could be all from God, you know, like how the different races on this planet are children of God. And I mean, to clarify, I believe in Kichumanidu,

which is the Great Spirit, but I also believe in Jesus Christ and God. I believe that Gitchamandu and God are the same person, but God, which I'll use interchangeably with the Great Spirit, gave his people on the planet different ways of reaching him. And I don't believe that one way is more superior than the other, just as long as you use one of those ways that he put on this planet to reach him and you do it. You pray, you put down your tobacco,

if that's the way you pray, or you go to church and you pray. And so I think there was different ways given to his people. And so all these, I struggle a little bit with like, you know, what's going on really with the alien thing, you know, could it be a demonic deception from the devil, you know? could it be is that just what it is just a demonic manifestation or are they just another race of intelligent life that comes from the universe more of a conventional uh you know thought of what aliens are i i kind of go back and forth between those two because i i can definitely see that either one could be could be real and you know when we talk about different dimensions

of existence. I mean, string theory necessitates higher levels of dimensions for it to be a valid theory of physics. And so, you know,

maybe these beings have a better understanding and how to come and go out of these dimensions. Who's to say that these dimensions that they speak of are the realm of existence that we go to after we pass on. I mean, all I know for sure is that I know that people go to a different plane of existence with the creator after life on this earth is over.

And, you know, I also believe that hell is real and that people will go there too if they didn't lead a life and try to help people. and but I did ask him you know are these aliens like of God I mean that's what I was trying to get at like

are they just are they his children too and he said yes so I mean I guess I kind of lean towards that and but I don't I don't know I think that there very well could be a federation

of aliens that have decided that humans are not sophisticated enough in our technology and our in our evolution as a civilization to reveal the existence of extraterrestrials. I think it's like Star Trek, the movie, when they went to that planet and they visited these, weren't they covered in like white powder or something? Or they're like white people? I don't know.

but they're like obviously like in the stone age um and you know they talked about oh we we were not supposed to reveal our existence to these people and like you could have damaged the outcome of that civilization and i think it i think it's it's logical to uh think that they are curious in us and they they don't want to interfere though because they they want to I mean, that's what we would do ourselves. We try not to interfere with natural life. We just want to observe and learn, but try not to disturb the, what they got going on. But I think there's also bad ETs.

And sometimes they don't play by those rules. And, you know, maybe the good ones are actually providing. protection from the bad ones, but, you know, maybe the bad ones, they still get away with their abductions and stuff because that's, that is a real phenomenon too. Yeah, it's all very complex and intriguing. And there's so many different ways to think about these kind of experiences that people have and just the ideas that float around out there from these experiences. And everybody has their own thoughts and ideas and stuff. And that's why I don't discredit people and I don't try telling people, well, you're wrong because of this

and you're wrong because of that because here's a thing like, yeah, sure, I have my thoughts and ideas on things, but I don't know if I'm right, you know, like I have very strong feelings about things, certain things, very strong feelings that leads, that come from my, my spiritual background. Those are, I mean, I think that's very common for many people where that, some of their strongest feelings in life stem from their strongest feelings of their religious spiritual backgrounds. And, uh, but at the end of the day, like, there's so many things that we just don't know whether it's possible or not, if it's, if it's real or not, or if our line of thought lines up with what actually is happening around us. Uh, and that's something that it has

bubbled up to the surface in just culture in general, when you have an entire, world that's been manipulated and propagated by media across the globe that's controlled by world elites. People don't know where to go with their thoughts because what they're being told is manipulated and deep down inside, they know that. They know that. And so to think outside the box that's been given to them is extremely hard because we don't teach critical thinking to our children. And they've essentially snatched away the ability to critically think. think from adults through entertainment and lulling you to sleep with the phones that are in your pockets. And so I totally hear what you're coming from. Bigfoot's an alien, all that stuff. But

no, it's true, though, right? I mean, it's true. Like, we hear people talk about Bigfoot being translucent and what do we, where does that idea come from in Hollywood? Well, the movie's a predator, you know? And Predator is translucent in an alien. And people say that Bigfoot, they've seen Bigfoot be translucent and we see people like you having UFO experiences line up with Bigfoot. Not necessarily you didn't see Bigfoot, but the idea of it, we have had people say that we had Bigfoot activity on our property and at the same time we had UFO sightings. And sometimes people talk about Bigfoot interacting with the UFO.

I've heard people say that they saw Bigfoot come out of the UFO. So there's so many different things to think about, right? there's definitely a connection. There's definitely a connection. And I mean, I don't know, bottom line is, I guess we don't really know what they are until we can talk to one or,

you know, hopefully maybe somebody has had some sort of mind speak. And I can't think of an interview that I've listened to where are they told outright, we are this or we are that. Maybe maybe one day somebody will have that experience. But even that. So like for me,

the way I hear things, I approach things, I just, this is how I naturally am. When I hear that, I'm like, okay, that's your experience, right? But then when it comes to the translation of the experience from the experiencer, that's where there's room for people to draw their own conclusions. And so when somebody says that they experienced mind speak from Bigfoot or mind speak from whatever, that person who had that experience at that point defines their experience through however they decided to define it. So they could say, you know, I had mind speak and Bigfoot told me this. And so I believe it. And there's going to be other people out there that are going to say, well, you had Mindspeak and you had the Bigfoot experience and it told you this. But what if whatever

you experienced wasn't being truthful with you? What if it was? being deceptive. And so there's just so many different ways to think about this stuff. And that's why I just really put emphasis with this show to be open-minded. And we just talk to people, have good, fun, conversation and just let the cards fall where they may. And let the audience, you, me, everybody decide and draw your own conclusions as to what you're going to believe. Because that's the most important thing right now. In a world where you're being told what to believe, everywhere you turn, It's very important that you have at least an hour show where we approach topics. And at the end of the day, you as the guest in the show and I are telling all the people

who listen, these are the experiences. Now, draw the conclusions where you want to draw them and think for yourself and see where that thought process goes. I think that's huge because it's something that we have, that is a talent and a gift that has been taken away from us in our society. Yes, yes. Everybody needs to critically think for themselves and never take anything you hear for face value, even if it's from authorities. The media is perceived to be an authority. They're supposed to tell the truth and they're just reporting the news. But no, actually the Smith Modernization Act of 2012. I forget the 2012 legalized propaganda. So, you know, Me, the media, the big media corporations, it's propagandized. And your next thought is, well, I didn't hear about that on the news.

Exactly because they're not going to tell you they're allowed to lie to you. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, before we switch gears into that, I was wondering maybe if there's time. I don't know, you, you tell me like, uh, the, the Sundance experience. Oh, yeah. That's where I'm going with it, man. I want you to go right into it.

Okay. Uh, Yeah, I mean, it was a pretty cool experience. So what a Sundance is is for, it's the most sacred ceremony that we have as a native culture, and it's practiced all throughout North America. And, you know, so tribes down south, all the way to way up here in Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota. We practice Sundance. And they take slightly different various forms, depending on where you are geographically.

But essentially what they are is a way to show your commitment to the creator and you're sending prayers the most powerful way that you can. And you're there praying for the people, praying for what. what they need. If you have sick relatives or friends and family, you're praying for them. Or if, you know, the tribe is going through something awful.

Or that's what it was, you know, then. But like today, we pray for the country. We pray for the world. We pray for everyone. We don't pray for just our people only.

No, we pray for the world. We care about everyone. And it's, so there is, flesh offering and actual like

what could be viewed as self-mutilization but it's it's very traditional it's very sacred and it's very real and it's done in a sterile with like sterile scalples and everything in a safe way

so to Sundance you you you you you have to be ready for it. It's, uh,

you're supposed to, um, fast in the spring and go up on the hill to, for a vision quest and you fast for, uh, no water and food for four days and you sit up on the hill. And you battle the elements. You,

you, you, you, you, you, you go without, you go without food. You go without water.

And it simulates, uh, you know, getting closer to death. You are bringing your body close, closer to the point of death. And so what it does is it thins the veil between this world and the next. And you're meeting the creator halfway. You're showing that you're willing to meet him halfway from this world to that one. and he will meet you the other half.

And he does. So I haven't done a vision quest yet, but I did get to do the sun dance. And so after, yeah, you do that, then you get to go to the Sundance. And it's four days and four nights as well. And you go without food and water that whole time. And every day you are dancing.

And it's it's it's you form a ring a circle and you use like, uh, tree branches like bowels from, uh, trees to form kind of like roof structures around the circle. And then in the middle, you put up a spirit tree. And I forget the exact name of the tree, uh, which one it is. Uh, but like it's a specific tree. And it's blessed before it's cut down. And it's treated as a sacred object from the time it's cut down. And all the way until we're done with the Sundance.

But it is the most sacred item when we're at the Sundance. So when it's brought into the circle, every sun dancer ties a rope to the top of the tree. And then they also tie tobacco bundles to the top. And these tobacco bundles are your prayers. What you're there for. You usually sun dance for a handful of things that you're there specifically for. And, you know, I was there for my family and for a few other things. And one second.

And so after everybody ties their rope to the tree, they raise it and it's, you know, sunk into the dirt. and then, you know, buried around. And so now you got a standing tree in the middle. You dance around it, four days and no food, new water. And like I explained with Vision Quest, you're thinning the veil between this world and that one, showing you're meeting him halfway. And in the mornings and evenings, we have a sweat lodge. So, you know, if you don't know what a sweat lodge is, it's like a sond.

but these rocks are in a fire that is by the way there's a fire burning for the entire time of the Sundance and in the fire we bring in rocks we call them grandfathers and we heat up the grandfathers and they sit in there for like a good half a day and so they're in there and they're they're glowing red hot by the time we take them out and put them into the sweat lodge. And so there's this pit in the middle. And it's a dome structure with canvases and blankets and whatnot covering the dome structure. So it's pitch black.

You can't even see the hand in front of your face. And we get in and, you know, I just get in with like some basketball trunks on or something. And actually when you're sun dancing, though, we have. traditional, like men wear a traditional skirt and women wear a traditional skirt, but with also a top on too, like a blouse type thing, but traditional as well. And then you pour water on the rocks and it gets very hot in there. And, and, but like, we're also kind of like letting the moisture hit our body and we're like kind of, that's how we clean up a little bit in the morning. And, well one

one night that we had a sweat lodge we had a spirit an entity visit us and his name was Sota and Sota was a warrior that died in battle at the age of about 13 or 14 and he

came to warn us that the next day was going to be very hot, so tell them to put the red ochre on. And the red ochre is like traditional sunblock sunscreen. It's red and it shielded the skin from, you know, damaging light. And so we don't burn. And he was audible, though. That was the crazy thing. You could hear him.

Granted, you can't see anything inside the sweat lodge. but the weird part was it sounded like I was listening to a cartoon character. It was this high-pitched, cartoonish sounding thing. And it sounded like gibberish. I couldn't understand it. And it was just like the... It was just very bizarre sounding like that. But you could tell something was communicating,

and the medicine men understood... perfectly could hear him. And when you reach that level of spirituality and have lived that life and shown for a very long time and have practiced this culture, you reach different levels of being able to see and hear things. So they can see more than I can see. They can hear more than I can hear. And so they were able to tell, you know, I could hear something, but I just couldn't understand what he was saying.

And but they could understand it. And so they told us what he said. And he also said that he likes Snickers and Coke. That's kind of cool. Yeah, right. And that's a thing in our culture, too, is leaving out spirit plates. and that so when we have a big feast, we'll take a little bit of everything

and put it on a plate, and that's offering it to the spirits in a show of respect and acknowledgement of their existence of still being there. Because when we do this, the ancestors, they follow us, and they watch,

they watch everything. And while we did this, a great big wall of a thunderstorm just billow up in front of us and started moving in on us. And as it was moving in, we were seeing faces of like, Heyokas, they call them, which is medicine men, but they're also jokesters. And it would take a little bit too long to understand what, tell why they're jokesters and stuff like that. But that's what they're called, Heyokas. And we saw, we saw their faces in this,

this thunderstorm. And then as it was moving in, it stopped. It stopped like a couple miles out. And this huge mushroom cloud just billowed up in front of us. And then it started putting on a lightning show for us. Lightning just streaking across the great big cloud. It looked like a mountain in front of us and filled with just dazzling lightning show for us. And he said that they do this every.

year. They show us that they're watching. And there's been lots of UFO experiences there. I didn't get to see a UFO experience there that time, but they said that, you know, there's F-18s that

scramble and they try to chase them down. And they know that our ceremonies call these things in. We don't tell the ETs to come, but they just, they react. And that's the other very strange thing about the alien realm is that they respond to prayer.

When I threw that tobacco out, it stopped following us. When we have our ceremonies, they come. They check it out. And I mean, the government outlawed our sundances because they were freaked out by it. And they still are to this day. They're scrambling their F-18s. They can't keep up with the UFOs. But that was one of the reasons that they banned it because they were freaked out by it because they saw some stuff.

And, I mean, Bigfoot, they are always like in the vicinity. They watch too. And, you know, a lot of people talk about seeing their glowing eyes off in the distance surrounding the ceremony. and and then while you're in sweat too there's a shaker that you know like it's kind of like a

Maraca but it's a traditional shaker and it gets picked up by spirit and it starts getting rattled all over the the sweat lodge and as it gets rattled it sparks off light it gives off

a light it's supposed to be pitch black in there I mean we're talking no electronics whatsoever, no lighters, nothing like that. And somehow there's light coming from within this shaker. And it's the spirit energy, you know, from the spirit world, picking up this shaker. And when we sing and we get to an intense part of the song, that's when all that energy, it must give them enough energy to enter into the physical space that we're in, pick up that shaker, make it spark light, and shake it.

I mean, it just shakes it in front of you and, like, it hits the ground. I mean, you could hear it just like, like, like, somebody really, like, energized, picked it up and just hitting the ground around people and, like, hitting the rocks. It's, it's a very intense experience. And, yeah, if you're not ready for it, which I've seen stuff like that before, because when I was like six years old, My mom needed hip replacement surgery or something. I think that's what it was. But she had a healing ceremony. And we're in the basement of a medicine man's home.

And we block out all the light, pitch black in there too. We circle up. And there's shakers in the middle. I saw those shakers light up to. But at that age, I still had my innocence. And this is universal across all. cultures and religions that when you have your innocence, you're more susceptible to seeing and hearing. Well, that time I got to see two spirits walk into the circle.

So granted, it's pitch black. I can't see a thing. I can't see the hand in front of my face. But off in the distance, I look and I see like in the shape of smoke two figures walking into the circle. And I still remember to this day. I mean, it's one of the experiences that just let me know that there is a spirit world. There is an afterlife. Our actions have consequences. And we were most definitely interacting with that world. And yeah, I mean, just looked like smoke, like white smoke,

but it was in the form. Like I could see legs, a body, arms, and a head, but nothing distinct beyond that. But I could just see them

walking into the circle, uh, coming to, to help us, you know, with our, with our prayers. And,

uh, yeah, it's, it's wild, wild stuff. Yeah, it definitely is wild stuff. And,

you know, one of the things you're talking about is all these experiences, and then you mentioned about how the government and you guys stopped doing it because they had, you know, scrambled jets or whatever. But then right after that, you mentioned about how it attracts, you know, Bigfoot and, you know, you're having these UFO, you know, ET experiences or whatever. It kind of, at least from your perspective of telling the stories and experiences that you've had, it really kind of ties a, in my mind, a very direct connection to some of these people's experiences being

very spiritual in nature as well as maybe physical. So, you know, I know some people don't think Bigfoot's anything other than a hairy creature walking around the woods. But if what you're doing is attracting these creatures along with ET, along with UFOs, to the point that the government's having to scramble jets and tell you to stop, like, it tells me there's very much of a spiritual aspect of these kind of things that maybe people aren't, they, maybe people don't want to accept or maybe just can't mentally fathom or go there, you know? Yeah.

I don't know why there's suppression of, you know, the belief in, like, you know, spirits or just the, I think it's just the push of, you know, science versus religion and or just spirituality in general. why they have to be competing ideologies, I don't know because I personally believe that the creator willed things into existence and willed

evolution to happen and he had many you know creations before us before he arrived with man and he's sticking with man right now And so, you know, as we explore science further, I mean, I think that we could get closer to, you know, blending the two.

And I think we're getting closer to that point. But, you know, and I think these ETs, they, I think they understand that, you know, existence isn't just what you can see. see, hear touch and whatever with your senses, they understand that there's a spiritual aspect to existence as well. You know, because if Bigfoot can choose to be physical or in a spirit form, they obviously know more than we do. But like, you know, our culture,

we always knew all these things. And yeah, I mean, sadly, It just, it looked like paganism when the spread of the Western world came in. But, you know, we're still here today. We're still practice our ways and our culture to this day. And for that, I'm proud. And I just, you know, I hope that we're able to retain our language to, because that's dying with our elders as they pass on.

And not enough young people are learning it. No, I absolutely agree with you. man. Listen, Dustin, these stories have been a pleasure to listen to me. I appreciate you sharing them. Absolutely. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did, Joy, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where you share the show on any platform. It doesn't bother me. If you share the show on Facebook or Twitter, I don't care. Just share the show if you enjoyed it. And once again, if you want to, go ahead and follow me on Miwi. Because that is a free speech

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That's stuff that they will snatch people up for and never hear from them again. But I mean, what do you do? This is freaking Orwellian to the max, man. Orwellian to the max. The fact that we are speaking in private because the conversation can't go public, that's Orwellian. they had people in that book who were reporting other people saying things that they weren't supposed to be saying and thinking how they weren't supposed to be thinking. There was things in that book called Thought Police for a reason. And we are now living amongst Thought Police.

So I have to take my segment that is extremely important, put it behind a membership wall so that only people who have access to the privacy of that can access it. because if I have it published and that gets in the wrong hands, I might disappear. That's how, that's what's going on right now. This is what's coming. This is what's coming. It's, man. I know. And I try to, I try to, I pay attention closely because I want to try to like pinpoint exactly when things are going to get really bad.

and I go back and forth between, oh, it's next month, and then I'm like my optimistic side where that wants to believe that, okay, we got some time and maybe I can start business, get rich, and break free from the system. But like, I don't know. I mean, what do you think? Do you think we got until, you know, maybe a year from now, things will be drastically different if nothing changes,

or is it going to play out for a number of years? It's going to get worse and worse as time goes on until they reach their dystopia. That's what's going to, that's what's happening. So that's what I was trying to portray earlier. I had a hard time saying it. But like, like, we're here in time and it's this rough. This is freaking rough. We ain't used to this.

But the road to dystopia gets progressively worse.