The Confessionals - RELOADED | 309: The Predator
Episode Date: May 23, 2022In Episode 309: The Predator, we talk JR, a former member of a "1%" motorcycle club. After doing something to get himself kicked out of the club, JR started his own burglary gang. Between the club and... the gang, he was in deep trouble with the law and found himself on the run, hiding out on a very remote property in southeast Indiana. Although he was given permission to stay on the property, JR was also warned that something was roaming the land... Not paying much mind to that warning, he spent nine months at the location, spending his time looking for old artifacts he could sell for cash. As time went on, JR not only found artifacts but discovered huge finger bones and oddly placed mounds. And that's where he wishes his discoveries had ended: while out searching, JR also came across a translucent creature he can only describe as "The Predator." During his final encounter with it, he was left so terrified that he decided to head back home, where he was facing prison time, then stay one more day in the forest with The Predator!Also, you can join The Confessionals on "The Spirits Are Inn" tour when we visit the Shanley Hotel in New York on JULY 1-2, 2022 as we have a two-day and one-night haunted adventure! Contact Creed and Jen at Educated Wanderer to reserve your spot today!Email: travelgrouptours@aol.comPhone: 973-513-9001Website: educatedwanderer.comBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/join SPONSORSGET Surfshark: surfshark.deals/confessionals GET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tony GET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionals GET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!! Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.com Get Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5 CONNECT WITH US Website: www.theconfessionalspodcast.com Email: theconfessionals@theconfessionalspodcast.com Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Subscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaI TikTok: @theconfessionals Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7h Show Instagram: theconfessionalspodcast Tony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficial Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcas Twitter: @TConfessionals Tony's Twitter: @tony_merkel
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Welcome to Reloaded Monday
Everybody
we have episode 309, The Predator. We have JR coming back on, and this was a legendary show.
J.R. talked about being a one-percenter when it comes to motorcycle gangs and what he went through on an exclusive private property.
But to be honest with you, the most fascinating part of his life story. And this, what you're about to hear was fascinating.
But what was most fascinating was the conversation we had in overtime, which is a member's exclusive.
but J.R. talked about some really bizarre things in the overtime that led to some really good conversation,
but I have no doubt in my mind that you're going to enjoy this Reloaded Monday right now.
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I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear.
When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing at this giant.
Well, the giant moves.
He's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast and spears Dan holds him up like this.
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They basically decapitated.
He got him out.
Feel something pulling at my left.
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All right, let's get to this week's show.
We have JR coming on the show.
I'm telling you guys, this is an awesome interview.
You see, JR is a former member of a 1% biker gang.
That means that he was an outlaw, a straight up outlaw.
He got kicked out of that gang, and he was running from the law,
and he wound up on a property for nine months that had some really strange experiences
that he kind of called the predator.
But as we were talking, it sounded like maybe he came across what people call a bigfoot
that is cloaking.
Very interesting conversation.
And after this episode is done, if you're a member, head on over to the membership website
right there in the overtime segment because me and J.R. did a whole second hour talking about his
experiences, basically being recruited by what we can only assume was Satan himself. He had some very
interesting experiences, including a time where a guy popped up in his life that seemed random
at the time. But as time went forward, this guy was clearly up to mystical no good with J.R.
Very interesting conversations I had with this guy, and I'm really excited to share it with you guys.
I'm going to play a trailer for the overtime segment right now. And after that,
that trailer's done. We're going to get into the first hour with JR right now.
It's almost like I was in a cave. I'm described as it's like a cave. It stinks, you know,
and I'm trying to find my way through where I'm at. And I come into this room, and it's almost like
an inside of a donut. If we walk up a rat into the inside of a donut, this room, as far as I
could see left, it went down and it kind of curled around. And there, to the road,
right, it went down, and it kind of curled around. You're getting ready to enter it for all over.
It was like, the daddy I felt left me. I was, for a minute I was okay. You know, I was like,
okay, cool. So I didn't know where I was. This doorway kind of slides in there, and I can hear,
like, my footsteps echoing. I come in, and there's, like, a fireplace burning over in the right side
of this, whatever I mean.
I walk over and there's a man
and he's got on a nice three-piece suit
and he's sitting there.
His hair slicked back
and I'm not funny like that.
This man had the most pretty blue eyes
I've ever seen in my life.
His eyes were like
the marble blue bowling balls
that go from like dark to light blue,
baby blue and there's some dark in there.
That's what his eyes were like, man,
when he turned around to look at me.
And he kind of motioned for me to sit down.
And when I sit down, the lights kind of opened up more, man.
It was like an arcade floor.
He's sitting there.
I'm sitting there.
And he starts talking to me.
Now, when he's talking, he's not, I can't understand what he's saying.
He's speaking a different language.
But in my mind, I can hear it.
So it would almost be like he's saying,
Do you have a rumbo that I got?
But it's coming out.
English in my head. You understand what I'm saying? Like, his actual words I'm hearing with my
natural ears was gibberish to me. But then after he would speak it, I knew what he was saying
in my mind. And we're sitting there, and this man starts asking me questions. And he's asking me
questions that inside of me, I know without a shadow of the doubt that he already knows the answers
to you. He's just asking to see how I'm going to answer. It's weird kind of
conversation we were having
and it was simple stuff, you know,
like at first, my age,
where are you from?
It was almost like he's kind of
filling me out, you know,
to see what I'm going to say.
And I know, without a shadow of the doubt,
he knows the answers to these questions.
As the conversation goes on, man,
he says,
why don't you follow me?
Now, that's not what he said.
Like I said, it was a different language,
but in my mind that's what it says.
And I said, what are you talking about?
And he said, follow me.
He said, you can have anything you want.
And I'm like, no, I'm good, dude.
I don't even know what this is about.
And he points over his left shoulder and I look.
And when I look, Tony, this is all those soundups, bro.
When I look, there I am on this bed with these three chicks, okay?
These chicks, one is a blonde head.
One was a redhead.
One was for that.
And in the midst of once he said that, it was like I was there all of a sudden.
When he pointed, I wasn't in the chair anymore.
I was there with these girls.
These chicks started doing stuff to me and with me for a moment.
To the point, I can feel their hands running the back of my head.
I can feel their lips on me.
And then I was, before I knew it, I was back in the chair with him.
He said, all that could be yours.
and I said, dude, I don't even know who you are.
I just let me out of here right now.
And he kind of, his demeanor changed.
He got, I could tell angry.
His voice that I'm hearing in my head didn't change.
The tone of his voice that he was speaking as gibberish didn't change,
but his confidence changed.
His eyes weren't so pretty anymore.
It was like they were looking through into me.
All right.
Today we got J.R. on the show. J.R., how are you doing, man? I'm doing good, man. How are you doing?
So, J.R., you are somebody that has a really interesting pass, and I think it's just absolutely
fascinating, to be honest with you. I was sitting here listening to tell some of the stories and stuff,
and it's just like, wow. So we're going to start off with the reason why you contacted me,
which is you saw what you described as a predator-like creature on a property that you were staying on.
And if you want, though, start from kind of like the beginning as to, you know, who you are
and why you were kind of on that property to begin with to find yourself in that situation.
Okay.
First, man, thank you for at least talking to me, contacting me back.
You made an opportunity to share with you today.
I'd like to say that up front.
But like I said, man, my name is J.R.
And I have always had a criminal background.
I belong to a 1% motorcycle club at one time in my life.
And from the time I was a kid all the way up and through that, being a criminal was just part of everyday life.
You know, half of my family was, I was.
So I got into some trouble.
What it happened was, I was sitting in a, let me back up.
Let me back up a little bit.
All right.
So I was running a B&E thing, which is a breaking and entering crew.
This is after I was out of that club.
I had got put out of that club, man, for doing some stuff that you're not allowed to do.
Of course, if you tell me, I can't do it, I'll do it.
And I got put out.
They took my patches.
But the criminal part of my life was still there.
So me and a buddy of mine started running a B&E.
We were doing home invasions.
We were taking people's property out of your garage, your house.
cars, whatever it was. And the way we were doing it is, is I would wait until I knew when
trash pickup was in your neighborhood. We would come in. I would take your stuff all the way to
the edge of your property and leave it. That way, if something happened in there, they might give us
a trespassing charge, but we wasn't going to get no serious, you know, charges from it.
Then we would pay another guy to go pick up the stuff that we left out by the current.
at Trash Day, which it wasn't trash.
It was your property.
So in doing all of this, man, the police was, they was on us, kind of hot and heavy,
chasing us around.
But when I had first got out of the club, there was a situation that had happened.
I'm not going to go too far into what that was.
But anyway, we started being watched.
And I was having people follow me.
The reason I know is I had a lady follow me to force,
five different stores that I went to in one setting.
She would walk in and walk around the store while I was in there, but never buy anything.
And then at my next stop, there she was.
At my next stop, there she was.
So that's kind of what threw me on to it.
And I was paraloyed, and I'm telling people, man, I got these trucks following me.
I know it's the cops.
You know, I don't know what all this is and blah, blah.
So I went to my mother.
My mother has never, I've never heard of cusses.
smoked cigarette, drink, nothing. She is. Nothing like me and my siblings, nothing like my
aunt's uncles, my dad, none of that. I went to my mom, and then my mom's always had an
understanding. She told me at a young age, she said, you don't lie to me and I won't lie to
you. And I said, okay. And even, no matter what I did, my mom always knew about it. If she asked,
I told her, it wasn't something that I wanted to throw in her face, but if she asked me,
I was always honest with it. So I told her what was going on. I said, mom, these people are
following me. And she's like, no, you're just paranoid because, you know,
know of the life you're living and I said no mom I'm not I said look let me buy your gas I will buy
your gas feel your car up you get in the car with me and let me prove it to you I said you just drive
I'll tell you where to turn or where to go and you go with me she said fine so we get in the car
man and they were using they were using like the big Dodge trucks SUVs uh the smaller SUVs
and uh four-door sedan and it would be between
four and five cars and I could almost tell you what car was coming on next. We'd pull up,
she'd turn her right, turn and signal on to go left, and the car would follow us. You know,
we'd drive around in circles, and the car would follow us. Nobody has time for 30 minutes
to drive around in a complete circle. These cars were, and they were following us. She said,
I think you're right. I said, I told you. So I had, like I said, man, I was a criminal,
and it's nothing I'm proud of. I needed a ride to another state.
across the bridge and I went and I picked up some drugs and was coming back and I saw these
cars kind of stacking up on us before we got back out of that state.
But when we got over the river, I throwed everything out the window and went over
the side of the bridge.
They pulled us over.
They pulled us over and immediately started asking where the dope was.
Now either they were watching me or they were watching that house.
told them I don't know what you're talking about.
They tore the car apart.
I mean, stripped me down to my bare feet, tennis shoes.
You know, we're off.
I'm standing outside in the cold.
After all that was done, they couldn't find anything.
This detective looks at me and says, you know, you're in a stolen car.
I said, no, I'm not.
How am I supposed to know that?
He said, because it was reported stolen, I said, dude, she's got the keys to it.
You know what I'm saying?
I got a ride from this girl.
I'm sitting in the passenger seat of a car.
Well, they charge them.
I got locked up and went to jail and I bonded out.
That was late of 2016.
I went on a run.
I went on a run because it was a bogus charge.
They were pretty well onto us and what we were doing.
They just couldn't prove it.
I'm not going to say the department's name,
but I had the chief of police of that department stop me at like 3 o'clock in the morning
one morning and told me they're going to kill you and my buddy.
and said his name.
And I said, who is?
He said, the boys at the station.
I said, what are you talking about, man?
He said, look, don't play games with me.
He said, you've always been respectful to me.
And, you know, you ain't ever gave me a hard time.
I'm paying you a courtesy.
Him and my stepdad were friends.
He said, I'm paying you a courtesy.
I'm letting you know right now they're talking about catching y'all
on one of these back roads and leaving a gun on you.
You're making a lot of people look back.
And I said, well, I appreciate the explanation.
So they were on to us.
So I'm thinking it's all police.
You know what I'm saying?
That's, we'll get to that.
So I leave.
I go on the run.
And I go to this girl's dad's property.
Now, this property, within a 10-mile radius, man, it runs up to where the Ohio River is.
There's an area out there called Saluda.
Now, everybody knows it as the bottoms.
There's like a national wetland park.
It's not a state park that you can come through.
It's like protected ground, a reservoir.
thing that that lines up to this and then her dad's property was on the other side.
Now, there's no sale service out here. This is about as far as you can get out into the middle
of nothing where I'm at, you know, and that area insoluda is not an area that you just up and get
to go to. Like, if you don't know somebody down there, you don't need to be down there, man.
It's a weird bunch of people down that way. I mean, I actually had a friend.
when we were in high school that
reeled in a bag, like a Kroger bag
with a finger in it and it had a ring on it.
Like, I mean, this place here's a bunch of hollers
and heels in the middle of nothing.
Now, the roads go from pavement to gravel to dirt
to just disappearing, depending on how far you go.
There's an actual road back there, man,
it just kind of falls off the side of a hill.
So this is where I'm hiding at.
Now, her dad's property, it's from up off of the gravel road that you come in, you got to go down about a mile down this hill.
It's a bunch of twists and turns and bumps.
This property set empty for, I think it was 12, 11 years maybe before he got it.
Now, he's out there in the middle of nothing.
You know, when I say nothing, I mean nothing.
You don't hear anything.
You don't see anything.
It's just, it's nothing.
When I first come out there with this girl that I was dating, actually, she's my wife today.
But when I first come out there, they had told me, you know, he took me in, he let me come.
He knew I was on the run. He knew what I was about, you know.
He said, yeah, man, you can crash out here because he's not real friendly with the law either.
I said, I appreciate that. He said, but man, I'm going to tell you up front, you got to be careful out here.
I said, what do you mean? He said, you've got to be careful.
careful out here. There's a lot of weird stuff that happens. And I thought the dude was messing
with me. And I said, what kind of weird stuff? He said, well, I had this thing come across
that lake out there on me screaming like a banshee when we first moved out here scared my kids
to death. I'm like, yeah, right. You know, I just kind of blow it off. So he goes into the
story and telling me how they're fishing. He's got his pickup out there. It's him and the smaller
of the kids.
And he said this thing
come across the lake screaming
and it looked like a dark Indian.
Like it was some sort of an Indian being
screaming, scared him to death.
He peeled out of there,
it goes back to his house.
So when we're out there, man,
I'm already on the run.
I know the cops are looking for me.
So I'm on like a high alert.
I figure I need to get around
in these woods and around this property
to kind of figure out what it is
it's going on. So, you know, I walked the property. I listened to what he said. I thought he was
full of crap. I walked the property. I'm going out, looking in things, man. And after about,
I'd say it was maybe the first month I was there, we had a waterline break that was run down
from up the road toward, he lived in a little trailer down there. He was like, man, will you help me?
And I said, yeah. So we hand-dowed with a shovel of trench this water line out.
toward where we were trying to find a break from the house.
In doing so, man, we found three or four really pristine arrowheads.
You know what I'm saying?
Out of these trenches out there.
And I was like, man, this is cool.
You know, I've always been into history kind of thing.
That was my subject.
If I ever had one, would have been history.
I just, I love old stuff.
I'm like, man, this is pretty cool.
And he said, yeah, man, you didn't know that there was, you know,
and I got to looking up.
There used to be some kind of Indian settling around there.
It wasn't right on his property.
But it was within a few mile radius of where he was at.
I was like, no, I knew nothing about it.
So after we started finding these arrowheads, man, I noticed these mounds out there.
And there's another thing, dude.
Like walking through these woods with her and looking around, I was seeing these bones, Tony.
and the bones were big bones, bro.
It looked like it would be somebody's femur bone.
I mean, they were long bones.
You know what I mean?
And I told her, that ain't no deer.
Because I asked her, I said, what in the world that this come from?
She said, oh, it had to be a deer or something.
That ain't no deer.
That's a real tall deer.
You know what I mean?
Like, I've seen two or three of these out there in the woods.
I said, that ain't no deer.
And she's like, yeah.
I said, whatever, man.
So in walking the property, I had noticed these mounds.
And I asked the day, and I say, bro, what's up with these mounds out here?
He's why I think they're, you know, it's where a house used to be back here that burnt down,
they just kind of bulldozed it over.
And I'm thinking, well, how many mounds did they need to bulldox over?
Because there's like four of them.
And he was right about one.
One of them was full of trash and, like, scrap metal, and it looked like an old house had been there, you know?
but these other ones, these other ones were different, dude.
They were perfect like mounds out in this area.
And I get to digging around messing with them, dude, and I'm finding arrowheads.
This is what even had me out here this day when this happened.
I'm finding these arrowheads.
Now, these arrowheads are pristine arrowheads, bro.
And it's, you know, I'm into it now.
I'm like, this is what I'm going to do.
I can't leave.
I'm hiding out.
I can't be out running around and being seen.
I got to have something to do.
This is what I'm going to do.
So I'm always in these woods, man.
I'm digging around.
I'm finding these arrowheads.
Well, I had a buddy of mine that knows a guy out this way that he buys antiques.
And when I say antiques, if there's anything weird that you think you might want to find,
I guarantee this dude hasn't.
You know what I mean?
He's just this old guy.
He's got all kinds of old gas pumps, old gas signs, jewelry, you name it.
If it's antique, it's at his place.
His wife is mad at a maddened a dutch about it.
She don't like nobody coming out there because he just keeps collecting it.
But he said, man, I think pal, take those.
And I said, really?
And I said, you can get cash from him?
He said, yeah.
I said, well, come out here, dude, and pick him up and pick him down there.
So that's what he did.
He'd come up and he got a bunch that I'd found and took him down there,
and this guy paid me for.
You know, I can't work.
I'm on the run.
I've got to have some kind of income coming.
So this is what I'm doing.
So in the process of doing all this, man, we're out there.
And it was weird, dude.
On this property, it always felt like, have you ever had that feeling, man,
where you just feel like you're being watched?
Oh, yeah.
And you don't know why.
You know what I mean?
Like, on this property, bro, that feeling was always there.
That feeling was always with you.
Like, something is there with you or watching you.
And I just kept telling myself, man, you're paranoid.
You know, you're just paranoid.
over these police. It ain't, it ain't nothing. Chill out. Well, as you walk back down this property,
man, there's a lake there. And as you go past the lake, it turns into woods. There's a big
creek. I call it a creek, man. Some people might say it's a river. I've seen places that you go
out of state where they say this is such and such river and it looks like a creek. That's kind of
how this was. It was pretty wide, you know, probably three foot wide. And some of the embankments
were two and a half foot, three foot up.
But it run all the way around the backside of his property that divided his property
from the woods that led into the other area I was talking about earlier.
So as you cross that creek and get out there, dude, it was eerie, man.
It was almost like even the trees were different.
And I know that sounds weird, but it was like even the trees were eerie.
You know, they just looked weird.
They wasn't like everything else.
And it was dead quiet out there.
like you you could hear birds and little rabbits and squirrels and stuff like that up there
closer within a mile of his house that after you got so far out it was just big there was nothing
um i didn't stay out that way too much you know what i mean i kind of stayed within about a mile of
the house because that place out there it was immediately you just get this gut-wrenching feeling
like something's there that you know you ain't supposed to be there you know what i mean and
and there's nothing around uh so what happened man
The very first thing that I had seen, like I said, we were down a hill.
And I seen something up the hill leading out of his place that was moving tree to tree.
And not up in the tree, but on the ground.
And it was like dusk.
It was looking at dusk.
The moon was out, but it wasn't out.
The sun was going down, man.
It was starting to get dark, but it was backlit that way.
so I could see a silhouette, and this was a pretty big dude.
You know, for the life of me, I thought,
why did they send this big old cop out here?
They could have got somebody better to be down here.
So I ended up in the woods that night.
But I watched it moving around tree to tree and thought, okay, they're here.
They figured out where I'm at.
So I'm in the woods, laid out in the woods, man,
and camouflage for like an hour that night before I'd come back to the house.
That kind of tripped me out.
Now, he swears that there's weird.
stuff going on in this property.
You know, like I said, he had that thing come across the lake on and he had said,
and the only weird thing I've seen of yet, I've been out there probably five months at
this point was this dude that I thought was a cop up there moving around in the woods.
So I'm still doing this arrowhead thing, man.
What it happened was is I woke up.
It was about 10 o'clock, maybe 10.30.
I get up, I get dressed, I put on my bids and everything, boots, grab a shovel.
I had a little shovel there.
And I'm going back to my spot and I'm going to dig some more arrowheads because I need some money.
I get going back there, man.
I come around where that lake's at that that thing supposedly come across on him.
And I'm standing in grass.
Now this grass is dry grass after where his yard ended.
It turned into grass and it just got higher as you got.
And once you got past that lake, it was up.
I'm six foot forward, man.
So it's up to, it's up to my belly butt, you know, and a little higher.
I'm above waist deep grass that you have to walk through.
Now, that one mound, the first one that you come to where I've been digging is probably 100 yards, 200 yards, maybe 150 yards away from this lake.
I get out there and I'm digging and I've got me a little Krober bag and I found a few here and there.
It wasn't like, you know, it wasn't, when I say I'm finding them.
It wasn't, you know, I was, the guy was paying $25 a piece for him.
You might find three in a whole day.
But I'm out there and I had found a couple.
And where it's at is when I start up that mound, the mound kind of goes over into the woods and then there's trees to the left of that.
Now, I'm standing on the right of this man if you would be facing it where the grass side is.
But it's still uphill a little bit.
I had stopped after about an hour out there, man, I lit a cigarette.
And I'm kind of leaning up against this little pine tree.
And I'm smoking a cigarette.
And all of a sudden, out of my right side of my peripheral vision, I've seen something moving.
So I stopped and I turn and look.
And there's nothing there.
I'm looking at nothing.
Now, I just seen what I thought in my pericchio was a man beside me.
I look and there's nothing there.
I think, you know what?
It's got to be the smoke off your cigarette.
That's what you're seeing.
I go on back to doing what I'm doing, which is just standing there having a cigarette, man.
So, standing there and relaxing.
I got the shovel on the bag laying there and kind of leaning up against this tree,
and I see it again.
And when I turn and look this time,
the movie The Predator Man with Arnold Schwarzenegger,
when that thing goes camouflage and it looks,
it looks like it's there, but it's not there.
That's what I saw standing there.
This thing, now, like I said, I'm up a heel a little bit on the side of this mound.
This thing was about, I don't know, six inches, eight inches taller than I was,
and it was on the flat ground.
Like I said, I'm six foot four.
But this thing, it looked like, it's like,
the predator thing, man, but it's almost like it was a liquid metal type effect, almost like
if you take what you're looking at, if you stand outside and you're looking at the woods,
and this thing, it just, you know, in front of you step out of another dimension, wearing everything
you're looking at, that's exactly how it was. It was, it was, it messed me up, bro.
And when I seen this thing and I looked at it, it kind of, I believe that it realized that I saw it.
because when it was standing there, his head kind of looked down like he looked at his feet,
back up at me.
And when he realized I saw it, that grass, dude, I watched it split when it ran.
Now, when I tell you this thing, ran, this wasn't like me and you breaking out running.
This thing was moving, dude.
You know, in a two-foot path all the way through that grass, over up through,
over another little ridge toward that creek, and gone.
And then it was nothing there.
You didn't hear anything when it hit the woods, but I watched the grass flip, and I have no idea to this day what it was.
It scared me to death, dude, because everything that you think you know that is supposed to be around in the woods or everything you think you know that is even capable of your wildest kind of thing, that wasn't anything I would imagine to see.
But then I saw it.
I left everything where it was laying at, Tony.
I left everything where it was laying at, and I was going the other way.
You know, when it took off and it went to the right, I broke out behind me and B-line for that house.
I get to that house, and I've been on the run.
You know, I'm hiding out.
Police have been coming to my parents' home.
They've been looking for me for almost a year, right around nine months, you know.
I get to that house, and you had to go a mile to get cell service.
I said, give me a phone right now.
They said, what?
I said, I'm not staying here.
I'm leaving.
They said, what?
I said, dude, there is something out here in these woods.
I don't know if it was an alien.
I don't know if it was, you know, the predator.
I don't know what it was.
I'm not staying here.
Give me a phone.
I took my girl's phone and I walked that mile up and I called my mother.
I said, Mom, you got to come give me a ride right now.
She said, what?
I said, come and get me now.
She knew where I was in.
She said, you can't be out running around.
come here, Gerald. Police been here three times already this week. I said, I don't care.
Come and get, you don't understand. There is something out here that is not natural, man.
There is something on this property that it should not be here. She says, I'm on my way.
I took their phone back down there, dude. I packed the bag and I left. And I got locked back up
and was happy to get locked back up. I did 18 months over that, dude, because I wasn't
going to stay out there. They give me three years. I did 18 months off of it, off of that stupid
sitting in a passenger seat of a car and was happy to go.
But there was no way in hell I was going to stay another day out here on this property.
It just wasn't going to happen.
It wasn't going to happen, man.
So, yeah, I told my mom about it, and she just kind of looked at me like I was crazy.
And the reason I even found you, man, when I got out, I got a job.
My last little bit I had to do on a bracelet.
but they had me on a home incarceration thing,
but I was allowed to work.
I got a job, man, driving a fork list.
And I'd get there like 45 minutes an hour early every morning
because I'm not the dude that wants to get up, jump right into something.
You know, I smoked my cigarettes, I drank my coffee.
I'm sitting out back.
There's a fellow listening to this podcast, and the dude was telling a story.
And I'm just kind of listening, you know, and my buddy, his name was Rob.
he said, hey man, you ever listen to this guy?
And I said, no, what is it?
And it was actually, it was Wes's, it was Wes's podcast.
Wes Garmer was Sasquatch Crows.
He's his podcast.
And he told me about an experience he had had.
And I think he used to be from Louisiana somewhere down that way.
He said he had him, his own experience.
And I was like, yeah, well, I kind of shared it with him.
And that's the first person, man, that didn't treat me like I was nuts.
You know, my mom, my mom never.
said anything, but I could tell she thought I was crazy. I shared it in the pod with two guys
that was in my hut when I was locked up, and they laughed me quiet. You know what I'm saying?
They said, you're nuts, and I know I'm not nuts. I know what I've seen. But then that dude
turned me onto his, and I found you through him, man, and that's how I even came about to contact
you. Well, I'm glad you did contact me because that's an amazing experience from beginning to end
Man, it's like the odds of you even finding yourself on that property, there was so many,
there was such a series of events that had to happen in order for you to even have that experience.
And, you know, I don't, I don't even, listen, we're going to start with the property and we're
going to go down that road first because I was going to ask you, you know, about the other stuff as far as like,
well, let me ask you this. You mentioned earlier about how the one,
officer came out of like a courtesy to tell you that, you know, they're coming for you and
they want to kill you. And he's talking about other law enforcement officers. Is that something
that in your area is more common where like the cops, like, especially with guys like you,
they're like, they rowl you guys up and kind of like rough you up and stuff? They, they,
I mean, I don't know, man, if it's the police or just us because we were stupid. You know,
I have, they told me one time when they arrested me that I was D&B. They come across
the radio if they needed help. And the guy said, no, he turned around and put his hands behind
his back. The guy on the other end of the radio said, well, he's D&B. I didn't know. And that was
that conversation. I asked the arresting officer that I'm in the car with. I said, man,
what in the hell is D&B? He said, you know, if you take a lowercase B and a lowercase B,
and you put them side by side, they face different directions. And I said, yeah. He said, well,
that's you. Some days you want to fight and we got a tase you and put you in cuffs and some days you'll
go quietly. I said, well, man, that just usually depends on if I'm messed up drinking and,
you know, partying or not. He said, yeah, I know. So I don't think it's that it's the police,
but dude, I walked out of it three times. And what I mean is, is they tried to set me up three
different times. I had a dude, all right, now his son was 23 years old. I had a guy tell me that
his son got kidnapped, a 23-year-old kid. Now, he's a grown man. You know what I mean? Your son
didn't get kidnapped. What it was? He went off with some girl.
Okay. Well, the dude wants me to go talk to this guy. Now, I had met this guy probably a night, two nights before. And he wanted some dope. And we were selling drugs. Dude come over and asked for a sample bag. And I gave him more. And he stuck in his pocket. And I said, hey, bro, you going to do that? And he said, well, I got a drive, man. You know, I don't want to do it. I said, then that's all the more reason to do it. Here, let me see it. He handed it back to me. And I poured it in my hand. I said, there you go. Snort it.
And he said, no.
I said, well, here, man, eat it or something.
He was like, no, you know, man.
I said, dude, you're the damn police.
You the police, get out of here, bro.
And I walk away from the car, you know.
And that same dude is supposedly the guy that kidnapped this dude's kid.
So he sends me, he hands me an ounce of dope.
He said, hey, can you go drop this off to this dude for me?
I got something I got to take care of.
I didn't feel right about that whole situation.
You're sending me first off.
You want me to go somewhere with somebody I don't know to have some business.
and they got nothing to do with me and it's all about you.
I said, yeah, man, all right.
So he walked in the other room and I stuck it up on top of his entertainment center.
And as an entertainment center is one of them ones that kind of got like trim around the top of it.
And it sits almost to the ceiling, you know?
So I stuck it up in there.
I jump in the car with this chick, man.
We go down there.
I've seen his son.
I said, hey, bud, what's going on?
He said, nothing.
I said, you all right?
He said, yeah, I'm good.
I said, well, your dad told me you got kidnapped.
He said, I wouldn't kid Matt.
I said, well, what's the deal with this guy you're with?
he said, oh, man, he's just giving me a place to stay.
I said, all right, man, cool.
You sure you're good?
He said, yeah.
I said, that's all I needed.
Come on, girl, let's go.
And we turned around to leave this McDonald's
and this dude that I had seen me other night, I was telling you.
He's like, hey, man, ain't you got something for me?
I said, I ain't got a damn thing for you, dude.
What are you talking about?
He said, old boy told me he was sending me with something up here for me.
I said, well, you need to talk to old boy then, man,
because I don't know what you're talking about.
He starts cussing, he's mad.
We exchange words.
We're getting our cars and leave.
So he comes down the road, man, and cuts around me.
Like, I'm in front of him.
He comes flying around the end of the traffic around my car and goes on ahead of me
and turns at the road before the road I've got to turn on.
And when I turned on the road to go back to this man's house, dude, there were police everywhere,
police everywhere on this road.
So I walk in and he's like, you got the money for that?
I said, no, you're going to have to handle that with him, dude.
I said, I left that up there on top of the entertainment center.
He's like, what?
I said, I ain't taking it.
I ain't in none of your business, bro.
I'm not in none of that.
I left that on top of the entertainment center.
So dudes like, yeah, man, you know,
we've been running a gun kind of hard.
We need to calm down,
but I got this job we need to do right away.
I said, hold on, bro.
You sit here in the same sentence and tell me we need to calm down,
but you've got a job we need to do right away.
I said, man, y'all are the police.
Y'all are the police.
I'm leaving.
And I started walking out of there.
And when I got down to there,
there's like a little cross.
street that comes out and there's an alley that separates the two roads. I come down to cut down
through this alley, man. And when I cut down through this alley, there's a narcotics officer
for this department that everybody knows. He's a black cop. He's the only black cop on his department.
And he's sitting there in that alley, rose his window down, pulls his sunglasses, you know,
down on his nose and points at me and just kind of shakes his head. So I flipped him off and kept
walking. You know, that was one time I walked out of it. They, they,
They were trying to get me nonstop, bro.
And that's why they gave me that bogus charge.
That charge they got me on should have been criminal conversion or George Rudd.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a slap on the hand kind of charge.
They maxed me out on it, dude.
I got the maximum amount of time for that charge.
The girl that was driving that truck never even seen the inside of a corporate, bro.
Wow.
So, yeah, they were just after you then.
Well, me and that other guy, yeah.
Wow.
man you have lived an interesting life absolutely and uh you know let's get to this property that you
were staying on her dad knew there was weird things going on with the property he talked about
the screaming banshee and he said that there was a dark indian that he saw that i think you said
it was running at him screaming or something uh when you say dark i'm assuming like a shadow figure
almost yes sir okay so did he ever mention anything else other than that i mean did he have any
idea that there's something like a predator out there? No, no, that's the only thing he hits it.
Now, you got to understand, man, my wife, and I believe her. And the reason, you know,
she's never, she's never told, she never left me down when I told her what I, what had happened to me.
You know, when I got locked up, she was like, why did you leave? You could have stayed. Everything was
good. I explained the situation. And her answer was, oh, okay. Like, she, she already knew some stuff,
some that stuff out here. You know.
know what I'm saying? She had an ordeal, man, probably five miles up the road from where he's at.
Like I said, it goes from pavement to gravel to dirt these roads do. She is out running these
back roads with a friend of hers, and I know, man, people can say what they want. You know,
they were smoking a joint. I ain't never smoked a joint in my life that made me hallucinator.
Okay. She said they were smoking a joint, and she's seen a, a,
Sasquatch. This thing come across, and I've been to the spot. She's taking me out there,
and I got out to check out this area. She, as you come down this road, man, it comes down a little
embankment to the left. So the right of it, there is a field, but there is a fence right there,
and it's got a cattle gate. Now, a cattle gate's what, four foot tall, roughly, and you've got to
think they hang them from about a foot to two foot off the ground. She said this thing
stepped over this cattle gate like it just kept walking.
Where she's pointing at on the tree was nine,
10 foot of this thing that was, you know,
coming over the deal.
So I don't know that that thing I seen that night up there in the woods
wasn't something weird.
Because like I said, man, always out here in the woods,
you feel like something's watching you.
There's another family.
I'm not going to put their name out here because it's not my story to tell.
They're a well-known family in the area I live in.
there's quite a few of them.
Their property starts at one end of a road and ends at the other,
and every member of the family has a house down that road.
You know what I mean?
Some on either other side, but it's from one end to the other.
They've seen these things for years and have actually taken pop shots at them out that way.
And everybody around town laughs at them and says they're nuts.
I used to think they were nuts, dude, until I've seen what I've seen.
You know, I've never seen a big foot myself, but how am I to say that
there ain't such a thing when I just seen the predator, you know, or whatever it was.
But when I was locked up, we were staying in a camper down there on this property.
Now, it wasn't a small camper.
It was a decent-sized camper enough to where you could take and we built a porch to the front
and down one side of it, you know, around the edge of this side and up front of this camper.
And that's where my wife today was my girlfriend at the time was still staying when I was
locked up was down here on this property.
she said and i believe her man that something had picked this camper up off the ground the end that
the deck was tied to deck and all picks this thing up three or four foot and like rocks it
two times and dropped it she come running out of the camper and running around this building and
there's nothing there now for the life of me i don't know any man that could have picked me because
it's not like it's rocking on the tires the tires is off of you know what i'm saying it's axle
there's no wheel there.
And then the deck wasn't, but just a few inches off the ground, like there's a step up
around the front of this tamper deal, picks it up, man, and rocks it twice and drops it.
And, you know, she ended up leaving out there after that.
But it's just, I don't know, man.
There's something messed up about this property, bro.
Well, let me ask you, so the way you describe the property, it's, and you were talking about
Kentucky a little bit and and judging by your accent. I'm assuming this property is in like Southern
Ohio, right? Southern Indiana. Oh, Southern Indiana. Yep. Gotcha. Okay. We're about, we're about a mile or
we're about an hour and 15, an hour and 20 minutes north of Louisville, Kentucky. Okay, gotcha. All right.
So now I've, I've heard a lot of stories about Southern Ohio, which obviously if it's Southern Indiana, it kind of
is in that parallel line of, you know, weird occurrences.
You say you never saw a Sasquatch.
Have you ever thought about the idea that what you saw was a Sasquatch,
just acting in a way that some people say is impossible?
Maybe it could have been, man.
You know, I don't know.
Like I said, I watched that thing up there in the woods,
and this would have been a big cop.
I mean, professional wrestler-style cop, you know,
pro football player and I thought to myself, why in the world, if they sending somebody in the woods to find me, are they going to send the biggest dude on the dagoned park?
Why wouldn't you send somebody smaller?
You know, a smaller silhouette, smaller target, unless you're going to see, but this thing was huge.
And it would like come out from behind a tree, get down, kind of army crawl, real quick, come up or buy another tree, look out, get down, and we watched it go across the daggone hillside.
up there, man, to the point where I ran out and I laid in the woods and was not coming out,
I figured that's it ain't where I'm at. It could be a saskatch. You know, there's, I don't know,
I'm not going to say it was because I didn't see it with hair on it. What I've seen, it was,
it was, it was like camoed to everything around me. You know what I'm saying? So I can't say
100% it was or wasn't. But I know what I've seen. And it, when this thing saw, I saw it, it took off.
So it knows I've seen it.
You know what I mean?
It broke and ran, and I broke and ran the other direction.
But it was almost like it was shocked.
Because like I said, when I seen it the second time moving, it stopped.
And you could make out, you know, the full shoulders, arms.
You could see like the break through it, but there was nothing there.
It's hard to explain, man.
It was like it was wearing the air around us.
You know, that's the best way I can describe it.
It looked like the predator, like it was.
wearing the environment around like me and you if we were standing there it would be wearing the
environment around us you know and it stopped moving and when i looked at it and dude i felt everything
from the top of my head drain out of my body bro it scared me to death dude i don't like to say i was
scared that scared me to death man scared me to death i felt everything run out of my body all the
way down it was it was one of those feelings of so much weight it was it was
It felt like was on me in that moment, like it was almost pressing me to the ground.
And when it realized I saw it, it kind of looked down toward its feet and broke out and took off.
And I left.
I left.
As far as I know, everything's still laying down there in them woods, man.
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing.
So there is people who say they see Bigfoot cloaking.
And when I first started hearing that years ago, I just didn't think the way I think now.
and I was like, that's impossible.
I don't think it's impossible anymore.
And there's a video online.
I've talked about it before on the show where it's a YouTube channel where this lady Barbara
goes out and she does big footing.
She takes a newbie out with her and they're out there and they see something.
And the lady that spotted it.
She said that she saw something that was black in the tree coming down the tree.
And it sounded like it was like a juvenile almost.
it wasn't like a giant.
But she saw something that had black hair coming down out of the tree and they actually
filmed it.
But what they filmed wasn't black.
It was actually translucent.
And you actually see something on video translucent like the predator moving on video.
But in person, the lady who saw it said it didn't look like that.
It actually looked black.
And the way it lays out is she sees it.
They're filming. Nobody else sees it. So they're walking away then at a little bit later,
and they're talking about it. She's describing what she saw. It was black, this, that, and the other.
They get back to camp and they review footage. And right where she said she saw it, that's where this
translucent figure was. And so it sounds a lot like what you just described. And when you think about,
like, the activity that you, that you experienced, well, obviously, the hulking size of it is one thing that
be obviously equivalent to Bigfoot, but also the way it moved. You said it wasn't like us
running. It was just like, it was gone. It was just moved. It was gone. Almost, the way you described
to me, it almost sounds like it was zero to 60, bro, in seconds, you know, is what it was like.
Almost like a cartoon character, like on a cartoon way they moved so fast. Exactly. The roadrunner.
Yeah. When he, me, me, and that June gone, that's what it was, man, but you watched the grass
split as it went. And when it hit.
them woods over there. There wasn't no Sam. You know, this is in the later, this was around,
I got locked up in March after being out there for so long. So yeah, it was still fall. I mean,
there was still leaves. It was just now starting to sprout leaves around. So it wasn't like
you wouldn't have seen it cutting through them trees. You know what I mean? You should have
seen something or heard something. But when you hit the edge of those woods, dude, it was dead.
There was no sound. That's something that we hear about people.
saying that these things move, talking about Bigfoot, these things move almost ungodly fast.
Like it's just, you know, like you said, zero to 60. It's just super fast. So I don't know.
When you're telling me the story, the more details you told, the more I felt like what you
experienced was probably Bigfoot, but doing something that people would say is impossible.
And we have people who, we have people who say that, you know, Bigfoot is just a giant,
hairy creature out in the woods and that's that. It's all natural. And then we have, and they've seen
it kind of thing. And then we have other people who have experienced Bigfoot and it did supernatural things,
whether it's the cloaking like you had or, you know, things like almost like mindspeak, like it spoke to you
like telepathically. And so there's things about these creatures that are just absolutely
fascinating and mysterious. And I think from your end, receiving what I just said,
I can't imagine you think that's crazy because of what you saw, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean, I believe her 100%, you know, that she saw what she saw.
I believe her that the camper had got lifted because it was, I say it's a camper, man.
It might have been just a really small trailer because it had like the double axle behind it, you know what I mean?
But there was no tires.
I called it a camper.
It didn't look like anything you'd want to a family could live in.
of one person deal, but she said it lifted this thing up and rocked it up twice.
Like before it hit the ground the second time, it'd come up again.
And she said it would have been like me.
And like I said, I'm six four lifting at chest level and dropping it.
Like I would be outside somebody curling that, you know, and that's that's infeasible, dude.
You can't, no, there's no person that can do that.
I don't care.
I mean, you know, with the front end of the other end of that camper trailer, being on the
ground the way it was, there's no way. There's no way they had the strength to destroy the dirt
with the front of the, you know, the tone of that thing would have done on the other side of it.
There's no way, man. There's no way. Well, it, to me, man, there's a lot of mystery out there
and this just adds to the piece of the pie. You were talking about when you were out there
and there's these mounds. And you're finding arrowheads that were pristine. Were you actually
digging up the mounds?
Um, one side of it.
Yeah.
We, we were digging, um, not maybe a foot up it, man, but right around there.
Like I said, you could find them in that creek back there.
And dude, there's, there's so much flint around this area.
It's nuts.
You know, I mean, you, there's not a rock.
You couldn't take a handful of gravel and throwing that creek and not hit Flint.
I mean, it is just scattered out there all over the ground, all through the creek, all around
everywhere in these woods.
Um, and actually, man, a few miles of.
way there's a place that is you know they got a road out there named flint rich um where it's it's just
like and there's no mountains in indiana you know these these are just big hills that come up out of hollers
and stuff but there it's just all flint dude everywhere so yeah i mean i when i was digging when we
were digging the pipes i was digging toward the road so that would be the opposite direction probably
you know from where his house was like i said there's i don't know how far that lake was away from
and then I was probably 200 yards from that lake at the edge of the woods on that mound.
Now there's no trees growing on that mound.
That mound sets right at the edge of the woods.
The trees were to the left side of it, and I was to the right.
But it's just a grass field to the right of it probably, I don't know,
maybe a half length of a football field wide and then it turns into woods again.
There's just that big opening right there.
Once you come down, down that valley, probably a mile in, then it opens up to that area.
And his house sets at the far end, which would be, let's say, we'll call it north,
the north end toward the road and the lake sets toward the south end of the property.
And then I was 200 yards back past that.
So, yeah, man, I mean, right there on the edge of that mantle is where I was digging.
So you said that earlier you had any subject, it would be history.
Have you ever looked into the history of these mounds?
Not those, man.
Now, you've heard of the battle of Tippecanoe, right?
Yeah.
That happened.
Now, probably, I want to say within a 20-minute drive from where I was at, maybe 25 minutes,
there was what's called the Pigeon Roos Massacre.
What had happened was after Tipi Canoo, some Indians had wanted to retaliate.
There was a settlement called Pigeon Rouge.
and they went in and they killed, I think it was four adults and like 22 kids,
completely slaughtered them.
Everybody that was at the settlement, it was 22 children and like four adults, I think,
just one man, the other three were women, I believe, and then those kids,
they completely wiped them out as a, you know, like a retaliation for Tippy Canoe.
Now there's a little town further up the road if you would drive 20 minutes,
it's the opposite direction where there was supposed to have been a settlement.
And, you know, I don't, I don't know if it has anything to do with those Indians that did that,
but that's the closest that I can pinpoint that I know that happened because I've been out there
and check the place out, you know, and I've got like, you know, the, it's like it looks almost like a
smooth rock.
My buddy found one dude, when him and his dad, and they were logging, they ended up pulling a stump
up and this thing was perfect dude it was kind of tapered at the end almost like a perfect axe
and he actually took it to the falls of the Ohio Museum man and they've got it down there
and i forget the name of what this thing's called that his property that he found this on
is closer toward a town but it's still out in the same direction you know i mean there's
it's there's i've never really looked into anything being in that exact area but i know
within a 20 minute drive there were settlements and and you know actual uh battles that took
place.
We found musket balls, perfectly round, made out, and I'd say that's what they are.
It's perfectly round stone.
It looks like a marble, but they're, they look like they're stone in those creeks out there.
Wow, that's amazing.
Like, I love hearing that stuff.
Like, I've never found an arrowhead, and there's tons of arrowheads where I grew up,
and I never found one.
And the idea of finding that kind of stuff is just, it's thrilling to me.
These mounds, people sometimes say that are their Indian burial grounds kind of thing,
where they buried they're dead.
And then other people believe that these mounds are remnant of maybe where Nephilim giants were
buried.
Have you ever heard of Nephilim giants?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, man.
You know, it's, and that's why I said, man, you know, I was kind of talking.
And that's about the paranormal.
You know, earlier when you and I were talking about some of the things that happened to me then,
Like the paranormal has always been around, and for a long time I thought they were ghosts.
I believe today is a Christian that they're demons.
You know what I mean?
And yeah, man, the whole Nethelm thing, that's my stuff, dude.
Like I said, between you and West and Dark Waters, y'all are my podcast.
Every day, every night that's, you know, I'm listening to you guys, man.
Because it freaked me out, dude.
And that dude that I was talking to, I said at my work, turned me on to it.
And, man, I just kind of went down the rabbit hole after that, trying to figure out what this thing is, you know.
So you mentioned about these bones, the long bones that I think you described it almost like they were finger bones.
When you found those, were they near the mounds?
No, they were just scattered around this property in the woods.
See, dude, look, there's something else here.
All right.
Now, this may not, it doesn't really have anything to do with what I saw, but this for the life of me, I could not figure out.
out why somebody would do this. There is a tree
out there that I guarantee
I'm six foot four. I guarantee
that me and another man could not hold hands around it.
I mean, it's how big it is. This thing was
humongous around. Okay?
It has been perfectly cut
with a solid, dude. The stump still sets
and the tree's laying there. You can walk it. I used to take
her little brother and sister out there and let them play on it
like a jungle. Dude, I could get on this thing
and walk around on it. You know,
and it's just laying on the ground. Somebody
like they had cut this thing down,
but they never took the wood.
For the life of me,
I couldn't figure out why,
because this tree had to be the tree of its day
when it was up.
You would have been able to see this thing
from, you know, a few miles away.
This thing was huge.
Why in the world would they cut this thing down?
Drop it where it's at,
and there's been nothing cut off of it.
You can walk it all the way down to the very tip.
And it's all there.
And it's humongous.
Humongous, man.
I don't understand why they did that.
I've asked her dad, you know, hey, why in the world did y'all cut this tree down and not use the wood?
He said, it's been like that before I moved in.
And it sets like toward the mid of those mounds, man.
You know, like they, it not the first one I was at, then there's another one back in the woods.
It kind of splits the two.
You know what I mean?
Like it's not directly between them, but the tip runs, you would have to, if you took both,
down side by side, the tree was laying in the middle and you turn them right to where the one
on your left hand side would be out further than the tip of the tree is kind of how they're run.
It's kind of run diagonal to the left of the one I was at, but that tree's, that fall is right
there where they're at. I can't put a life in me to figure out why somebody would cut this tree
down and not use the wood. Huge, bro. Huge tree. I understand. There's, and I'm assuming this tree
is like kind of, it has to be way out there. If it's on this property, it's out in the middle of no way.
Oh, yeah. It's out in the middle of nothing, dude. Like, there's, you're in the woods. You got to, you got to hike in to get to it. You know what I mean? Where these, these, this other mound part is, but it sits in the woods. And it's just completely cut and dropped. And there's trees all around it. Like, it's not like they went out and they were cutting firewood. Somebody dropped this thing and left it.
Interesting. And it's just out in the middle of the woods, completely, perfectly, perfectly cut across with the saw. It's not like they hacked it. They, they used,
the chainsaw, it looks like, and cut this thing.
So this property is your wife's dad's property, right?
Mm-hmm.
Now, does he still own that property?
No.
He actually sold it to his niece, his sister's daughter.
No, but it's still in the family.
Have you ever been back out there since you saw that thing?
No, I have.
No, I haven't.
Man, honestly, I ain't had the balls to do that yet.
Yeah, I understand.
I understand.
Let me ask you a question.
If I were to come out, would you take me out there?
Absolutely.
I really think it's a possibility.
We're recording this for the audience that's listening.
We're recording this in December.
And usually January and February of every year works so slow.
I usually have layoff.
And I've been thinking about taking a trip out to Kentucky because there's some business I need to handle out there as well.
and since I'm close enough, I might as well see if I can go north a little bit and meet up with you.
I think it'll be really interesting. I don't really make a whole lot of road trips,
but when there's something like what you got going on and you still have access to the property,
I would be very interested in checking it out. I'll probably bring my brother or something
too just so that my wife doesn't think I'm going to get axed by some stranger in the woods.
Not that my brother could stop anything.
He's only 5 foot 5 and you're 6'4.
So he could probably take both of us.
Yeah, man, definitely.
Let me know.
Definitely will keep in touch with you.
So let me ask you, RJ, can we get into some of the paranormal talk
on an overtime segment for the members on the website?
Yeah.
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And until next week, stay safe, take care, and remember, the truth will set you free.
But first, it'll piss you off.
Bye.
Bye.
This day forward, you'll lonely be known as prey.
I'll stomp you out like a stove.
You'd better hope and play.
I'll make it quick.
Get to the chopper.
We'll be written on your grave.
What you call destruction is just a road I pay.
I'll steam roll your whole team like I own the place.
When I tell you what the hell I am, you're going to be blown away.
Welcome to the jungle.
Anyone want to play?
I can assure you blood support.
It's just my sort of game.
So when you enter the hunting grounds, remember you're the game.
Beware my territory.
It's where you'll be shortly slain.
I'm scorch you maim your body not much left of your remains
After I skin you alive you'll find no closer chains
I rip your little spine about your shoulder blades
When it comes to combat I'm a god upon this mortal plane
I can sit here forks of the ward and I let my trophies hang
In this forest only one predator can rain
And I'm looking down upon you from the throne of bones I made
With pure disdain of all honour you'll be fully trained
What you covered up in mud for to exfoliate
I see you trying to hide your heat signature in vain
From my imperfect vision, there will be no escape
You're even more of a dinosaur than Jesse Ventura and Schwarzenegger except
You're gonna go exchange
Oh, yeah, your right step so tiny
I think it's got you right beside me
I got a double tricks from my street
You're a hard mess with a step up come try me
Oh, till you're wiggle whip with the rich
Moved till the natural of a fish
Where I'm gonna let you're just like this year
If you want to come get a trick,
I see a little silhouette,
Triple red dot,
Laser Sykes are a line,
Got my target locked.
What's my income?
Check it when my net drops.
You'll end up in one of them unless you get lost.
Try to catch a predator, you'll only get caught.
Casting plasma like a magic blaster, I'm a dead shot.
Sex appeal is not my specialty.
Nonetheless, I'm dressed up in my fish nets,
just in case it gets high.
I'll pop a disc in you as if you were a desktop.
Then object if you.
From your neck could bob you like a chef
Tots you up a tree
Tire you by your feet
Let your head try
Then I watch you swing around
Like you was my dreadlocks
You may have made a track
But I'm a climbing kind of peace
Call me abominable
You have no eyes on me
Camoufl's all might be right behind
You keep in mind if it can bleed
It can die but I got no time to bleed
I embrace danger
Conqueron what up
And some would call it bad habit
Because I'm such a self-destructor
Guerrilla blood spillers such a thrilling
Hot Stopper got you on the chopping block
Now you've gotten to the chopper.
I've never become hunted, because I'm always the hunter.
Hope your cardio condition, about to run a tough mutter.
Now things are getting heated so you best get undercover.
You don't want to face me.
I'm one ugly, mother.
Why?
Why are your mindset so tiny?
I think it's just you're right my sad, baby.
I got a double tricks on my street.
Oh, I'm so stiff up.
Come try me.
Oh, do you with your flip, but that's running up a fish?
I don't know just like this shit
if you want to touch you come
