The Confessionals - RELOADED | 365: The Haunted Hallway

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

In Episode 365: The Haunted Hallway, we have a lineup of multiple intriguing guests! Our first guest is Tony's father, Brian, who engages in a conversation with Tony about their recent weekend escapad...e to an old World War II POW camp, once a site for interrogating Nazis and Japanese soldiers. The brothers, Tony and Jack, experienced some unexpected twists during this adventure, and you can look forward to witnessing their journey in an upcoming installment of Tony's 'Legion of Legends' series on YouTube in the coming weeks!Following this gripping discussion, our next guest, Chris, shares spine-tingling stories from his childhood home, a place inhabited by restless spirits connected to his father's family history.Lastly, Cora joins the conversation to recount eerie occurrences from her own childhood residence, featuring a spectral presence known as "Mr. Burns" who tormented her until her father took a stand. Her parents eventually sought outside assistance to rid their home of this otherworldly visitor.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals60" for 60% off plus free shipping!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Merkel Media I guess it's time To go back in time Are you telling me You built a time machine Out of a Dolion Time
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Starting point is 00:00:56 and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. somebody else shoot them in the face shoot them in the face they basically decapitated and i look over and there are two small gray and they're literally i'm getting pulled off the best bush and i touch it
Starting point is 00:01:43 because i know i'm seeing a monster i reload it welcome to the show everybody listening to the confessionals i am your host tony merkle thank you for being here if you've a crazy and wild experience you want to share with me on the show go ahead and shoot me an email my email address is the Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. That's The Confessionals at the Confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either it works for me, just get a hold of me.
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Starting point is 00:03:33 Dad's trucker. I spent many years in driving truck and CDL living. And we have this podcast called the Hammer Lane Legends. And what do we talk about in that show, Dad? If it's not a parent already. We talk about trucks and truck driving and the experiences truck drivers have. Yeah, I mean, we have people come on the show just like this show and they share their experiences or wild crazy experiences. And we just got done doing two interviews today. We're recording this at 1130. I just look at the clock now. I thought it was 10.30. 1130 at night on Sunday. We're recording this for you guys. And I thought it would be cool since he's in the studio to have him on to just hang out a little bit because I want to tell you guys. about what I just did this past weekend with Jack, and that's my dad's son.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. And you guys are very familiar with Jack. If you listen to the show for a long time, he's my younger brother. And we're doing Legion of Legends on YouTube. I've been talking about it for several weeks, maybe a couple months now. So if you want, go ahead to the YouTube channel for the Confessionals. Just look it up, the Confessionals on YouTube. Hit subscribe because we're putting Legion of Legends on the Confessionals YouTube channel
Starting point is 00:04:34 because it is sponsored and brought to you by the Confessionals. and me and Jack went to an old World War II prisoner of war camp this past weekend, and things got weird. How crazy is that? Things got weird, man. I'm not going to go into great details right now. All I can say is the video that I'm going to come out with, I think could have come out a lot better, but things that we hear about on this show happened to us that night that prevented certain
Starting point is 00:05:04 things that I wanted to happen happening. Does that confuse anybody? Yes. Well, it's going to, I'm telling you, like, it just, it was a wild night. We had K2 meter hits on my, for the EMFs. It's a haunted forest, lots of Bigfoot activity, lots of dog man sightings. I mean, this place was rich with activity, and it did not disappoint. And I talked to people after that night, I got home.
Starting point is 00:05:30 We were there all night long. We left in the morning. And when I got home, I did some calls to people that. I know to talk about this area. And they told me about things that kind of confirmed my suspicions about why you went there. And it was just a wild night. We're going back. Me and Jack decided we're going to go back.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And other people that are very familiar with that area said they'll show us some areas to check out and stuff. Cool. Yeah. I mean, this area is just like I had these suspicions. We went to the old World War II camp because not many people know this, but in this country during World War II, every state had prisoner of war camps. And so many people just don't know that. I mean, I saw some people commenting when I was talking about going on this that they're like, oh, yeah, there was one on the West Coast. I'm like, no, it's not just one on the West Coast. There was
Starting point is 00:06:19 every state had these prisoner of war camps, but not every state had prisoner of war camps that were interrogation camps. That means you capture Nazis and Japanese soldiers. When they come off the boat, the first stop they go to is an interrogation camp where they're interrogated before they get shipped out to these other camps. The camp we went to was an interrogation camp. And now everything that I've tried reading about this stuff online, and granted, I have access to the American side of the history. Right. But we know that the Nazis, and especially Japanese, were terrible to their POWs. Yes. They tortured them, killed them. We, from what I read, weren't exactly like that. I mean, I'm sure you probably smacked the guy around a little bit or something like that. But, I mean,
Starting point is 00:07:00 they had shelter, they had food, they weren't tortured. And at these interrogation camps, Nazis were being interrogated. And if other Nazi soldiers thought that this person who just got interrogated was too friendly, too kind, gave too much information to the Americans, the Nazis killed them. Wow. So it was like Nazis killing Nazis in these interrogation camps if it got a little too friendly between the Nazis and the Americans. And so there's a very high likelihood that the camp that we went to had death in that situation,
Starting point is 00:07:30 not to mention that it was 45 minutes away from Gettysburg, which is the deadliest battle of the Civil War. So it was a very tense environment. And then we had all the big foot activity in that area that we've heard about for years, dog man sightings all throughout Pennsylvania. I mean, Pennsylvania is really becoming well known for these dog man sightings. Wow, that's crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah, I was talking to a guy when I came home and I was talking about this area, I was telling him where I live.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And he's like, actually, there's. You don't need to go that far. Yeah, he's like, I've gotten several reports from your area that there's been dog man sightings. I'm like, well, that doesn't make me feel good. Yeah, how about it? Hey, Dad, why don't you take a walk in the backyard? Yeah, I think not. But, yeah, so, I mean, I was really excited about going to this area.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And then when we were walking around doing our thing, I mean, it just didn't disappoint. And I just want to let people know that I'm working on producing that video. And it should be available, hopefully within the next week or so. Cool. But I'm telling you, like, if you want a little taste of what it is, go to the Instagram account for the Confessionals podcast and check out just look for the post where it's me with night vision on me uh jack was filming me and uh just watch my reaction now listen there's no audio on that video okay i overlaid a soundtrack just like a creepy soundtrack so i'm just saying that up from because
Starting point is 00:08:53 some people were commenting saying i've never heard that sound in the woods before anything it's like well it's because it's a soundtrack yeah it's like a cinematic soundtrack you know but uh it's like a 15 second video, but just watch it, watch my body language. And yeah, it was interesting. It was real interesting. But you and I and Jack are going to be maybe going out in the woods together here in a few weeks. We've been talking about it. And I'm not going to disclose where we're going and what we're going to be doing and stuff. But if we do do it, it's going to be pretty interesting. I think it's going to be really interesting. Yeah, yeah, real interesting. But Dad, thanks for hanging out with me on the intro here. This week we have Cora and Chris coming on the show.
Starting point is 00:09:34 a two-interview show, and it's a good one. So let's get to it. All right, today we got Chris on the show. Chris, how you doing, man? Excellent, Tony. So, Chris, you sent us this email. The title of it was the haunted hallway. I was like, ooh. Sounds juicy. So it's a very interesting story you have here, stuff. I wanted to make sure we brought you on to talk about it. You're up there in Canada, and you grew up in a house that was haunted, and I'll let you kind of give the details as to what happened, man. All right. I'll start off a little bit, kind of talk about myself as a kid, and then I'll describe the house a little bit to you. But as a kid, I used to have a lot of issues of sleep paralysis. I didn't know at the time what it was. I mean, that was like pre-internet, pre-Dr. Phil kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But I used to wake up a lot. And like I felt like I was being pulled from my bed. I used to have a lot of, I guess, like, hallucinations. because I know like there's a medical description for sleep paralysis, but I'd often see a lot of strange things in my room. So there was a lot of times I spent a lot of nights sharing a room with my brother because I was just terrified to go to sleep at night. I don't think that had really anything to do with what was going on in the house, but it kind of made me, I don't know, maybe open to just being scared and looking for those kinds of things that would terrify a child.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Because I couldn't understand what was happening to me at night. And I never really talked to my parents about it until it was an adult. So they never really knew how much I struggled. But, yeah, basically, the house was a 1950s rancher. My dad always told me it was like a post-second world war house. He bought it off a gentleman who was actually terminally ill with cancer. and basically the previous owner as far as I know passed away but part of the house was left unfinished an area of the house that we called the back room it was kind of a no-go zone especially when we
Starting point is 00:11:50 were kids it later did become my bedroom but the house was this basic rancher on one side it had a garage on the opposite side of the house it had a living room in a kitchen and it was just connected the two sides were connected with the long hallway had three bedrooms and a bathroom. The two bedrooms that me and my brother had were across from each other closest to the garage and then the bathroom was across from my parents closer to the living room in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Sorry, I'm a little nervous. It's hard for me to kind of figure all this stuff out. Yeah, it's all good, man. Yeah, my, basically, the hallway was just this, kind of unspoken no-go zone for me and my brother. And I actually spoke to him yesterday. He's not as open to the subject as I am, but there was just an area of the house you didn't go, especially as a kid. We never walked in the hallway. So if you had to leave your bedroom and go to
Starting point is 00:12:52 the kitchen, it was leave your bedroom, go and run in a full sprint. It was never just nonchalantly walking minding your business. We didn't play in the hallway as kids until we got older. it would just be a full sprint from the living room to the bathroom from the bathroom to the garage it didn't matter where you were going you never walked in the hallway and you definitely never stopped
Starting point is 00:13:14 in the hallway it was I know I explained it in my email the only way that I can describe the feeling and I figured it out as an adult was that have you ever watched the original movie with Bruce Campbell
Starting point is 00:13:30 Evil Dead? I haven't no in the movie itself it's um there's a lot of scenes where basically these people are in a cabin and they're being chased by this unseen entity and it as it they're running away and they keep looking back like typical horror movie thing but as it gets closer to them the music gets louder and it's like this big buildup right if if you walked in the hallway you felt like something was coming for you it didn't it's not like it was in the house but it was coming like it was activated somehow this is this is my take
Starting point is 00:14:02 take on it anyways. You just, if you stood or you walk slow, it just continued to get worse and like the anxiety started to build up and build up and build up. And so you just basically took off in a full sprint. You never waited or walked. We only had one bathroom. You stand in the door of your bedroom and wait for the door to open because at one time there was four kids and two adults living in the house. That gets busy. Yeah. My dad later built another bathroom, but, you know, It was still, it was something that kind of, I don't want to use harsh words like scarred or traumatic, but it was something that stuck with me my whole life. Like it was never a comfortable place to be, the hallway or the house. Nobody was ever hurt or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:14:46 But it was never a good place. Like you always felt on edge. Never felt good when you were in the bathroom, taking a shower. Like I said, trying to go to bed at night. It was terrifying. I'd mentioned earlier that I would, that I had so much. many issues with sleep paralysis. I had a lot of sleep issues. I still do to this day. But I used to play this game as a kid where I would go to bed early because I didn't want to be the last person
Starting point is 00:15:12 awake. My mom worked really early in the morning. So by 8 o'clock, she's in bed, 7.30 sometimes my brother passes out just standing up. Like he just, there was no issues with him. My dad, you could set a timer to him. It was like 9.30. As soon as the TV shut off, he was in bed and snoring within five minutes. If you're not asleep, you're all alone. And then, you know, that's when the house kind of came alive. And it could have been hyper-sensitivity as a child, but it was terrifying. When you're a kid and stuff, I mean, I imagine a lot of kids get like that when it comes to like being in the house at night by yourself, nobody else is awake. You can kind of get scared and stuff. But then when you add the added factor of a reason to be scared,
Starting point is 00:15:56 it kind of elevates everything. we didn't know as kids there's certain topics that were never discussed I didn't know as a kid that my dad was previously married those things I mean I would have never thought different of them but it was just something that was never discussed so it was
Starting point is 00:16:17 like we had I had this issue with the hallway I know my brother did and I've since spoken to my sister and they've all had issues in the house my but the one person that really comes to mind is my mom so so many years later i mean fast forward years later we grew up and you just kind of i don't want to like say grow out but you know things just kind of calm down my sister still won't go into the house alone and she's 40 but um we would always get together for family dinners and like christmas easter kind of thing and it just got brought up somehow that the the subject
Starting point is 00:16:58 of the house got brought up. My dad always kind of played he just wasn't open to the subject. I mean, this man religiously watched the X-Files every Friday night. You know, like, that's probably where maybe some of my sleep troubles came from because it was always exciting to me to be able to watch the X-Files. I mean, he had a big library in a room of the house, not a gigantic library, but he always had a lot of books on the paranormal, on Sasquatch, on alien abduction.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So I can see maybe that there was a seed planted along time ago. But the subject of the hallway just got brought up. And it was just this mic drop moment where, you know, I was, I'm going to say it's probably 25, 26. I mean, my son was just little. And I couldn't believe at the time, I had never talked to my brother or my sister about this or my mom. But we all, all three siblings just had this moment. We're like, yeah, the hallway. Are you kidding me? We didn't, we didn't know about this. My mom turns to my dad. and says, well, isn't that where your late wife passed away? And like, I literally wanted to, I was so shocked that my entire young life,
Starting point is 00:18:11 I was having issues in the house and especially to do with the hallway outside the bathroom door. And it turns out that that's, you know, an area of the house that my dad's late wife had passed away in. So everything just kind of piled up. me. I couldn't believe that this has happened. And I guess I kind of tied all the pieces together. But yeah, it was, we ended up finding out that my dad's late wife had suffered a very traumatic event, I guess. From what I understand, and I don't want to butcher this for my dad's sake, she had suffered a brain aneurism.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Literally leaving the washroom, walks directly across to her bedroom. which is my parents' bedroom and needed help to get into the bed and my dad couldn't wake her up after that. Like it just happened so fast. My dad lost his wife. It was in the matter of a minute. I mean, and it was over.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So these experiences that you had in the house and that other people have had, I'm assuming your time that altogether circling around her death. Yeah. And I've never met her, obviously. I was told at a certain point in my life that she was a very jealous woman. And I don't want to down-talk her at all because, like I said, but I mean, the events that come after, like, there was a lot of things that got told after this that I was never aware of.
Starting point is 00:19:52 my mom and I later talked about this all the things that kind of happened. She was a little upset because I had never come to her as a kid telling her that I had these issues. I mean, they're not, I was never hurt. I never actually physically seen what I would consider a ghost in the house or, you know, a manifestation or anything like that. But it was always just this lingering feeling everywhere you go. So you're always on edge. You can never turn it down.
Starting point is 00:20:19 You can never relax. but she told me this is kind of how it came around full circle she told me that right after she moved in with my father I was just a baby they had gotten married and it is
Starting point is 00:20:38 from what I understand there wasn't a huge gap in time between my dad's late wife's passing and my parents' marriage maybe a year and a half or so but my mom moved in with my dad in the house and I was a baby and my mom told me like this I never asked her about this. He just came forward with this information that she was seeing an entity in the bedroom
Starting point is 00:21:05 every single night. And basically she said a lot of times we would start off on my dad's side of the bed and walk around the bottom of the bed and then it would come up the side of the bed towards her and she'd wake up almost the same time every night. usually, from what I understand, it was always around the three o'clockish mark. She would wake up and I asked her about this, like, is it, was it kind of a misty figure? Was it, did it look like a person? What did it look like?
Starting point is 00:21:34 And she just got, the way she described it was that she had this feeling that it was a woman. But it was, it wasn't like a full outline of a human. It was just something more dense than everything around it. Like you could just see something was there. It was moving around the room all the time. And this happened for months. She said she'd wake my dad up, turn the light on. You know, my pops would say, there's nobody in the house.
Starting point is 00:21:59 There's nobody in the bedroom. You must be dreaming. But this happened consecutively over and over and over again. And I guess she finally kind of figured out that it might have been something to do with my dad's late wife. Because, I mean, it was the same bedroom that she had basically passed away in. and she spoke to this manifestation and told it that she loved my dad and that she was going to take care of him. And she said she never had another issue again with whatever was bothering her in the house. But I mean, we still had problems as kids.
Starting point is 00:22:38 My sister told me on many occasions she seen a woman in the house. As a teenager, I used to have my friends would sleep over all the time. one friend that would always wake me up and he said, dude, there was a woman standing beside your bed. Like, he was sensitive that way. Like, there was always this woman around in the house, even though I never seen her. But it's what really kind of got me going. At this point, after this was all figured out, I'm listening to your podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And I'm like, you know what the hell? I'll send them an email and see what happens. And then you contacted me back. back, but ironically, something else happened after that moment. Like, there had been no activity in the house for 30 years. Everything was just fine. But I had since moved to an area of my province called the Okinawagon. My brother had him and his wife had packed up and left as well and come out to the same area that we live in.
Starting point is 00:23:45 and my parents started thinking, well, maybe they might decide to come out this way. Like to sell the family home, my dad's owned it for 40 years. And this is when it started getting kind of weird. My parents would start emptying out the attic. I mean, there's 40 years worth of stuff in this attic. And at first it was no big deal. Like I said, it's an old rancho-style house. My dad would crawl up there and handboxes down to my mom, and they would leave the attic open.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It's just like a little hatch in the roof. And there was no issues at first. But my mom kind of nonchalantly had talked to my wife on the phone and said, something's really bothering me in the house. I think it's haunted. and I remember calling my mom after my wife had told me this and having this conversation. She was kind of reluctant to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And I was like, come on, Mom. This is me you're talking about like all these. I listened to all these kind of podcasts. This is right up my alley. But basically, she started saying that she was being followed in the house. And she hadn't had any issues for over 30 years. since she had previously told that whatever she was seeing in the bedroom that, you know, she loved my dad and everything was going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And all of a sudden now what was happening was a little bit more aggressive. From what I understand is she was being poked. Her clothes and her hair were being pulled on. She said she was being followed in the house. Like she never felt like she was alone. She was terrified to take a shower. And at one point she even told me. my dad, she was going to get a hotel room because she couldn't stay in the house. It was just like
Starting point is 00:25:49 this cloud was falling around everywhere. Like, she just, she was never alone. And I just remember, like, I'm not a ghost expert or a haunting expert. I'm just a guy with interests. But I kind of just asked her a couple questions. But, you know, is, is a dog acting weird? And she said, no. I'm like, are you putting things down and they're not there when you go to get them again? And just no. I'm like, you know, they're flickering lights. Is there any kind of thing in the house that's really standing out to you besides the fact that you're just being harassed? And she said, no, everything in the house is fine except for the fact that once again, she's being woken up, three o'clock-ish in the morning.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And there's something in the bedroom. She's being poked. She's being pulled. and she's just being generally harassed to the point where it's like something is trying to drive her out of the house. And I asked my dad, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:00 what side of the bed does mom sleep on? And, you know, ironically, it turns out it's the same side of the bed that his late wife had used to sleep on. And so basically, it came down to, my mom was threatening to move out. Like, not leave my dad, but she couldn't stay in the house anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:20 We've got to get out of here. this is getting too much. And I had asked my mom, I said, you know, but I'm personally not a religious guy. So I felt like it was hypocritical of me to suggest this. But just from what I've listened to on your podcast and other things, I asked her if she would consider praying in the house. My mom is a religious person.
Starting point is 00:27:51 but I have a brother-in-law who at the time, I don't know about now, was a very devout Christian. And I suggested that my mom invite him over to pray in the attic. But before that happened, I had kind of asked him, like, what did you guys do to that started all this? And she said, well, we've just been emptying out the attic. Well, what did you find in the attic? What are you emptying out?
Starting point is 00:28:21 And it turns out that they were, they found a bunch of my dad's late wife's stuff that had been up there for 30 years, more than 30 years. And a lot of it, my mom felt like it had to do with these figurines that my dad's late wife used to collect. People, I don't know, but now a lot of people collect knickknacks and I personally don't, but she had all these porcelain cats. And they were all wrapped up in newspaper and put into boxes and just put it. it away. But near the very back of the attic, the very kind of last area of the attic that my parents had emptied out, they brought
Starting point is 00:28:59 these cats down. And it was kind of, from what I understand, my dad's late wife's kind of very prized possession, something she cared a lot about. And this box was sitting open in the dining room and the attic was still open.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And my mother had my brother-in-law come over. He went into the attic and he prayed in the attic. I don't know what he said or wasn't there because I'm about four and a half hours away from my parents. And then they packed these items up and put them into the garage as far as I know. And I suggested that my parents speak to whatever is in the house that is bothering them.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And my dad is quite old now. He's 82 years old. So it was kind of hard to convince him. You know, hey, pops, would you mind talking to the spirit of your past wife? You know, it was an awkward subject to have with your dad, especially since it was, you know, 30, 35 years ago, maybe a little bit more. But they both, from what I understand, took their time to walk through the house individually and just explain the situation. Like, I didn't know what else to do for them. I'm so far away, but.
Starting point is 00:30:22 and my mom said that they haven't had an issue since. It was just like the heaviness had been lifted. And after they were able to explain kind of what was going on, it was really interesting for me because there had been nothing for so long until they interrupted these old boxes that were full of my dad's late wife stuff. Yeah, it sounds like it. I mean, it sounds like, I mean, I don't even know how to remember. refer to it, but it almost sounds like her spirit was dormant because it was like there was an
Starting point is 00:30:57 agreement almost where your mom said, I love him, I'm going to take care of them. And it was at that point, okay. And then there's a whole other story when you're saying, you're going to take my stuff and you're moving him away and you're leaving. It's the word dormant is actually perfect. I never even thought about it that way. It was, it's exactly how it was. Like like I said earlier, even till this day, my sister's 40, she will not go in the house alone. My parents go, they have a vacation trailer, they'll go for a week or two weeks at a time. They just ask her to come over and check the mail. She won't go in the house, not alone.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Sometimes she'll send her kids in just to check, but she won't go in there by herself. Yeah. Well, has your sister ever seen anything in the house and makes you that scared or was just the feeling that you had too? I actually spoke to her yesterday because I wanted to just get permission to kind of tell the story. on behalf of other people. And she said she had seen a woman in the house many times. And we at one point had a foster sister who my sister said seen similar things. I mean, I haven't spoken to her in over 20 years.
Starting point is 00:32:11 But she said she was, I assume that she was quite happy to have left. You know, my sister and I seem to have been more afflicted. My brother was able to kind of deal with it differently. I don't want to speak on his behalf. But yeah, it was, it's just interesting that to use the word dormant because it just, nothing happened, nothing significant happened for so many years. We're talking decades. And then they interrupt or they disturb this.
Starting point is 00:32:46 stuff and they're talking about moving. They're actually just bought a house, so they will be moving. My mom said that when she talked to the house, whoever she spoke to, she explained that they were not going to throw those items away, that they would be given to members of my dad's late wife's family. So I hope that's what happens. I don't know, till this day, I don't know where those. boxes are, but I'm sure they're not anywhere near the house.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Do you think that it's going to be uncomfortable for your dad to do that to go see her family after all these years? He is in contact with, he has a granddaughter and a daughter. They don't speak very often. I mean, it's a sensitive topic, but he wanted to give those items to his granddaughter. He actually has two great granddaughters as well. So as far as I know, that's where he
Starting point is 00:33:53 wants those items to go. So at least they're with somebody that I don't, you know, maybe can look after them. But yeah, I think it will be a tough subject to bring up. It's not going to be comfortable for him, especially at his
Starting point is 00:34:09 age. Man. Yeah. Well, man. Paranormal. making you do uncomfortable things. Yeah, I never really, I was, I guess, fortunate because some of the episodes, that's why I was kind of apprehensive about writing, because some of the episodes I listened
Starting point is 00:34:30 to are quite terrifying. And this isn't as terrifying of an experience, you know, everybody's, I want to assume that most people see things as kids, but, but it was, this for me was always just an ever-present feeling that was always in the house. that just, you know, always had a, there was always a part of my life that had that, you know, at the moment, at those years of my life before I moved out, it was always there. And as kids, I mean, I was talking to my brother yesterday, I was asking, do you ever see anything in the house? You ever, he, he talked about the hallway. He couldn't explain the hallway to me. He, he kind of chopped it up as being, we were just kids. You don't want to look in, in a dark, empty room as you pass by it.
Starting point is 00:35:17 you know, an open door. But, but he says, it was interesting, he told me that we, we had two separate bedrooms across the hall from each other, but he said he would wake up all the time
Starting point is 00:35:29 and I'd be sitting in the chair next to him. And he'd get pissed off. You know, like, what are you doing? Get out of here, throw his pillow at me and it would go right through me. And I just found this out yesterday.
Starting point is 00:35:42 That's weird. It was, it was really weird. Like, he'd never told me this before. but um and then he said he'd get up because he was scared and he'd come into my room and i'd be sleeping that's that's freaky and and now it's like okay well why are you appearing to your brother like that you know i mean up to this point it's just been a female entity and now we have this
Starting point is 00:36:06 yeah i i just found this out yesterday i had no idea but um apparently that he's like that's why i I used to crawl into bed with you all the time too. I was scared. But, I mean, we used to have bunk beds in our room when we shared a room when my sister was still living in the house. And I'm the older siblings, so naturally I got the top bunk. But there were a lot of nights that I would hear things on the floor, like something in the room, but I was too scared to look down over the edge.
Starting point is 00:36:36 That could be just chopped up as to being a kid. And it's a dark room. But my brother was down there on the bottom. I was too damn afraid to peek my head over to see what the hell was in the room, you know, right beside him, I guess it would be. I always kind of referred to it as the
Starting point is 00:36:51 boogeyman in our room. But yeah, even till this day, all that kind of stuff, like I mentioned, I was never hurt. Nothing traumatic really ever happened. It's an interesting story, but till this day, I mean, it's left me really open to
Starting point is 00:37:09 these topics. Like, I really pay attention to how my, I have three kids. I pay attention to how they act in the house. Like if they're scared, you know, I asked them why they came and crawled into my bed or things like that. If something bothers you, it makes me I'm super hyper-sensitive and hyper-aware at what is going on in whatever else we live in because of that, until this day. Well, man, I appreciate you sharing on the show.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I sounds like a haunted house that I wouldn't want to live in, that's for sure. You know what? My parents did the best they could. It was, we had a good life. We had a good upbringing. I honestly can't complain. It's just, I thought it was a story that was worth sharing because there were so many unanswered questions until, until it was an adult.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And then so many pieces of puzzles started to kind of fall into place. I don't want to blame anybody. But I just thought it was too much of a coincidence at the end to find out that my siblings were having the same issue, that my mom, was having issues. Basically everybody but my dad, as far as they know, that ever lived in the house, was being tormented at one point or another.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah, that kind of throws a clue right there, doesn't it? I mean, the fact that your dad is the only one to never really had an experience and it was his wife. Yeah. Yeah, he's always reluctant to talk about it. I mean, he's a hell of a good guy. He was a, he's a, yeah, he's just a hell of a good guy.
Starting point is 00:38:41 guy. He had a hard life, you know, especially as a kid. He grew up in Berlin during the Second World War. And he's seen some shit. Excuse my language. He's seen some stuff. So when it comes to something maybe as simple as somebody seeing a ghost in the house, he just brushes it aside. Yeah, well, I guess I would too. I mean, if I grew up where your dad grew up, man, yeah, a ghost is the least my worries. Yeah, exactly. But he's made the best of it. He's raised a family and like I said, he's a hell of a good guy. All right. This episode is brought to you by Hello Fresh America's number one meal kit. I've been talking about Hello Fresh for quite some time now. I absolutely love them. The food that Hello Fresh comes to my door with is absolutely amazing. Listen, how I judge whether
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Starting point is 00:41:13 and you have freaking snow. How does that work? I thought California was supposed to be nice and sunny all the time. I know it's frustrating. We've just had really awesome, amazing weather. It was like spring weather, and then now it's just snowing again. It's crazy. I mean, not too long ago, Texas got the snowstorm.
Starting point is 00:41:32 You guys, I'm thinking to myself, something's happening. Something's happening. The world's about to end. Must be. As soon as it's going to be snowing in Hawaii. So. That wasn't. surprise me. I know, right? So you have these paranormal experiences that happen throughout your life. And it starts
Starting point is 00:41:50 when you're a young kid and it goes into, you know, more of adulthood and stuff. But it's kind of like a progression of different things that happen. So we're just going to start off from when you were the youngest here. I mean, you were young, young. I think you said it first started when you were a baby. And this character that somebody named, I'd like to know who named him this, but the name Mr. Burns and he comes into the scene. So take it away and share with us what happened there. So Mr. Burns is actually no one, that was his name. He actually had died in the house that I kind of grew up in when I was a kid when this all started happening. He wasn't like, it was just an old guy died in the house. He was kind of just a jerk, like a really big jerk
Starting point is 00:42:38 and would always just terrorize me when I was a baby to the point where my father would actually just get so angry and stand in my room and just scream, scream at him to stop. Most of everything that I know about Mr. Burns actually comes from my father and my mom, my dad would be making coffee and then he would be like, over his shoulder and he wore this terrible cologne, I guess that was extremely smelling that would always just go around the house. And this is, I don't know, it went on for about four, four years. And I actually saw him jumping up a few years. It was the creepiest thing. I saw him, he walked by me, kind of floated, I guess, and he was wearing like a cat. cowboy hat or a top hat and like had a nice shirt on and stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:38 It was just like super creepy smiling, like really big creepy smile and just floated by just staring at me. And it was, oh man, it was so creepy. It was terrible. And coming back from that, though, eventually my mom's brother, my uncle had a friend that had a spirit friend or whatever you want to call it. And this person brought his spirit friend into our house and supposedly had taken Mr. Burns out of the house.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Like his spirit friend sat for a little bit, grabbed Mr. Burns and somehow Mr. Burns was just gone. It was weird. And so you were four years old when he was pretty much done? four or five, yeah. Okay. And we actually had moved out of the house after that. Did you move out because you guys were done with the whole situation or was it just, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:41 happenstance that happened around the same time? Happenance, you know, my little sister, my little brother came in the picture and my parents decided to buy a house and a little farm in town and that's where we left. Okay. So I find it interesting that Mr. Burns isn't somebody that pops on the scene and, only the kids sees it, but your dad saw it too. Was it something that, like, everybody would see Mr. Burns around? Um, actually, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 There was, like, my dad would be sitting on the porch with his friend, and he'd be like, who's the man in your house? It's like, oh, no, Mr. Burns, just ignore it. Wow. Yeah. And so was your dad, did he feel like Mr. Burns was threatening to you? And that's why he was getting angry? It was more of just like, I'm sick and tired of this guy hanging around here and is, you know, bothering my kid.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, I think that's what it was. I'm just sick of it. I'm sick of him scaring her. Like, I'm over it. Got mad, yelled at him. And, yeah, that was a thing. Yeah, that's interesting. And you probably said this, but I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Was he a former owner of the house? Like, he had died there? Yeah, yep. Okay. Yeah, I wasn't sure how that whole situation worked out and stuff, but I was very curious as to how the name Mr. Burns came to play, but I never really considered that it was actually the person's name. Like, I was thinking, oh, there must be some kind of story where this entity tried lighting the house on fire or something.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Nope, nope. His last name was just burned. I got to know his first name. So we just, I was called him Mr. Burns. Okay. So you guys move away. You move into a new area and your parents started what I guess you guys called card night where, you know, friends would come over and they would play cards.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And some activities started happening there too, huh? Yes, no, it was absolutely weird. One of the creepiest moments of my life. And I was about nine years old when this happened. All of us, I mean, my dad's friends would come over. They play cars, 31 with quarters and kind of like a little fun gambling night between friends. And all of us kids would kind of just be hanging out in the living or whatever. Well, I was really tired, so I decided to go in bed.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And I kind of just, I looked over and I thought my little. sister was putting her shoes on because there was just like this little girl, hanging out, putting her shoes on. And so I said my sister's name was, hey, Danielle, what are you doing? Well, it wasn't Danielle. She looked at me and was like, looking at me like, I'm crazy because I just called her the wrong name or something. And I realized it wasn't Danielle, and I realized that it wasn't an actual person.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So, you know, typical scared throw the blankets over your head. That's going to protect me situation. and then when I came back out, she was gone. Did anybody else see her ever? No, known that it was just me. And there's actually a story behind it. This little girl actually had, her parents had lived in the house before us, apparently.
Starting point is 00:47:44 My grandma actually ended up doing all this research on it. And she was walking across the road, but ended up getting hit by a log truck, this little girl. And her name was Delaney. And her shoes, ended up kind of where my room was. So, and I guess that would make a lot of sense of why I saw her putting her shoes on. So I went actually to one of the older, there's two cemeteries in that town.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I went to one of them and sure is rain. There's her little gravestone. That's creepy. That's creepy. How old were you when this happened? Like nine, nine years old, 10 years old? I mean, shoot, man. I would imagine chills would just shoot up my spine when I see the actual grave plot.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I'm like, she's really actually dead. Holy crap. Yeah, it was definitely, it was definitely something. Yeah, it kind of puts everything into a different perspective for reality. I mean, I imagine going over to the graveyard, you're thinking, okay, we're going to find this, that, and the other. But once you actually lay eyes on it, I'm thinking, man, it just kind of puts it all in reality for you. that's really interesting. It definitely showed me that there's more than our reality.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Well, definitely that's, I mean, you know, Mr. Burns and such, you know, growing up in that house, when it was kind of already, you know, I already knew, but seeing that was definitely a game changer for me. Oh, yeah. Like, why I don't understand why she decided to just show herself to me, but I thought she finally found her shoes. Yeah, it makes you wonder how that all works and stuff. I mean, people talk about, you know, the idea of like, now I'm dropping, you know, my brain here,
Starting point is 00:49:33 and I can't remember the term for it, but like time loops, you know, residual energy, you know. And when you think about that stuff, it makes you wonder if what you experience there only happens at a certain time during the year or something like that where you're able to see it. But, yeah, it's definitely interesting. And, man, yeah, I'd just rather not see a little ghost girl in my room at night. I don't want to either. It just happened. Yeah. So as you're getting older and stuff, your mom kind of shifts.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I mean, it sounded like she shifted courses. You said that she started playing with witchcraft. Is that something that she kind of always dabbled in and just got more serious about it? or was there something that happened that spawned her to get involved in it? I think that at that point when she did start, you know, playing with it, getting all these books on it and all kinds of stuff, I think it was just kind of a phase that she had went through.
Starting point is 00:50:35 But, you know, that stuff is, you know, you can't play with that stuff, like, at all. You just, you can't unless you know what you're doing. And even then it's still, uh-uh, I wouldn't. Yeah, I can understand that. I mean, how old was she when she started that? Oh, shoot, she was in her 20s, I suppose, maybe almost 30. Okay, so she was relatively young still. I mean, she wasn't, you know, 45, 50 and trying to find a new path in life.
Starting point is 00:51:05 No, no, it wasn't a big life crisis. I got you. I got you. So when that started happening, though, when she started messing around that stuff, you had some things happened in the house again, right? Mm-hmm. Yep. A lot of weird stuff. Like I mentioned the X, the X. I just kind of nickname it, the X.
Starting point is 00:51:27 It was like this weird little, it was like a dog, but without like ears. It was the weirdest looking little thing, but there was a giant red X on its back. And this thing would terrorizing all the time. It would jump up on my bed. It would like stare at me, like, with human eyeballs had. and just weird things, this thing was always bothering me all the time. Hold on a second. You said it was like a blob with a face?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Kind of, yeah, but it had like a, it was like a little terrier, like I guess that's just for size comparison, but it had a red X on its back. It looked like a red X, so that's why I kind of just called it the X. Interesting, interesting. So it has like a red X on its back, but there's, was there no real kind of definitive form to its body? I always just compare it in my head, especially just to a dog. Like, it was this small dog, but it had no hair and no tail and just had creepy human eyes.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Interesting. I wonder what that could be. I mean, it sounds like the way you're describing it, it sounds like it probably wasn't exactly a dog, but kind of similar. So you really just to have no idea what that was about? Yes, I really, I really don't. And it happened for like three, four years. Like I still, sometimes I still even just dream about it because it was such a prominent thing in my life.
Starting point is 00:52:53 It was insane. How old were you when that was happening? 10, 11. Yep. Were you still, were you still rooming with your sister? Yeah. Yep. Did she ever have an experience or see it or anything?
Starting point is 00:53:08 You know, we've talked about it and she definitely remembers it. I don't know if she ever actually saw it. I can't, you know, I mean, it's been a while. since we've talked about yet, actually, because we know, we're all growing up now, but I'm actually, you know, I'm not to ask her about that and see, see, because I'd actually be pretty interested to hear her opinion. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, you guys bunking together and stuff, she missed out on the, on the ghost girl. I mean, it'd be a shame for four years. She missed out on the blob with an excellent track. She had, she knew it was there, and I always,
Starting point is 00:53:46 freaked out about it. So, I mean, she's, she's had some interesting situations with me, with dreams and stuff that she woke up to. And yeah. So, I mean, she didn't miss out on a whole lot to crazy sleeper sisters that was tormented by the ex. So, I mean, one, do you think that there's something maybe, I don't know, about you that you were having these experiences and she really wasn't? And she was more of a byproduct of, you know, seeing you go through the experiences. Well, go ahead and answer that first. Yeah, you know, that's a really good question.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I don't know. I mean, you know, I've seen, growing up, I always, like, had weird things happen to me. And she has, too, but she was more on the side of ignoring it rather than, like, you know, acknowledging it, whereas, you know, I would, I would just, it would freak me out or it would, like, trip me out. So I would always pay attention to it. of, you know, ignoring it. What do you think the chances are of the blob experiences being more along lines of, like,
Starting point is 00:54:56 dreams? Do you think that you were fully awake during these experiences? Yeah. Yeah, I definitely was. And it didn't just happen at night either. It was this thing was just constantly there. It was tormenting. It just freaked me out and, like, would jump on my bed and stuff at night.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I got you. So it was very real to you. It wasn't like you were all of a sudden. jolted by this thing and you know it was like the quick transition of from sleeping realm to awake it was more of
Starting point is 00:55:28 very consistently while you're awake yeah yeah I got you I don't know what to make of that never heard of a blob dog with an X in the back but it was the weirdest thing I don't I don't know why I don't
Starting point is 00:55:45 that's his name and that's what it looks like So later in life, you wind up dating a guy that, I guess, I guess, I don't know if he told you he was a Satanist or by just his actions and what you experienced, you kind of figured it out. But before you get into those experiences that you had with him, do you think that your mom being into witchcraft had anything to do with you being attracted to this guy being a Satanist? I don't think so, no. I actually, I wasn't really, I didn't know, like, at the time that we started seeing each other, that he was. Like, he kind of withheld that information for a while. Shame on him. Shame, shame, shame.
Starting point is 00:56:32 So tell me about these experiences then. Okay. Well, just to, you know, just to start off, he worships or, you know, I mean, he's Satanist, of course, but like, one of his, main people that he like, I don't know, praise to Santa Morti. I guess she's like the state death. I guess that's what it translates into. So he does just a lot of weird, creepy things, and like, he would do blood sacrifices and, like, burn his blood and do weird things.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And he would always, like, pentagram, like, he would put salt, like, on our doors and, like, around the windows and stuff. and he was always very angry and he's always like freak out about everything, like everything because every time that he would do some creepy little ritual, like burning his blood or doing blood sacrifices or, you know, whatever he had going on, like he would bring sticks and all kinds of weird stuff and do weird like chants and pray down and just horrible kind of stuff. Actually, it was quite disturbing. I was try, I tried not to be around for a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:57:47 but I had, you know, every time he would do it, there would always be something like he would invite something into the house. And then like instead of, like, people put salt around doors and windows and stuff to keep things out. It would, he would do it to like, after it came in to keep it in. Like, he liked that its presence being there. And it was always so terrible. I've literally just witnessed like mirrors breaking out of nowhere. Can't even tell you how many times are I put it. I thought he was punching him until I saw it for myself. And he would always just like every time after he would always just kind of stare off in his face, especially if he was in front of a mirror.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It was like you looking at something and they were like communicating in some weird way. I've had things thrown at me. I've seen some really terrible like dark, really tall figures, like seven feet tall things. A lot of the time they were walking around the outside of the house. weird, weird things like that. It was never, it was never quiet while he was around. And he had ended up actually being pretty abusive. So after he left, there was still weird things in the house.
Starting point is 00:59:03 But I ended up leaving that house too. So don't have to deal with that stuff anymore. Do you think that the tall, you know, figures that you saw walking around outside the house weren't coming in because he had the salt on the doors? I mean, I guess if, you know, in that kind of stuff, I suppose that's how it kind of works. But like I said, he would always do it to keep things in. But the outside things was just weird. Like he, I don't know, it was like he could just like tell them what he wanted them to do and they would just do it.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Like, and they weren't, they weren't human. Like, I did not feel that at all. It was always the weirdest, coldest, like, foggy feeling when they were around. and it never eased up. Was he, if you know, I don't know if you know this, but was he practicing, you know, solo, or was he part of a coven? Oh, he was, it was solo.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I mean, his family, he was actually from Guatemala. So, you know, a lot of his family is still in Guatemala, and they do a lot of that stuff. Still, like, that's pretty, that's a pretty big religion or practice that they tend to lean on to. Yeah, and that makes sense because I was reading about it,
Starting point is 01:00:24 as you mentioned it here. And how do you pronounce it Santa Merta? Is that how you pronounce it? Santa Morte. Morte. I'm Spanish, and I don't even know how to speak Spanish, so thank you. But it says here, just on the Wikipedia and stuff,
Starting point is 01:00:39 often short, let's see here, it's a cult image, female deity and folk saint in Mexican neo-paganism and folk Catholicism. So yeah, I guess it, where did I see here? I saw it somewhere in here. She's associated with healing, protection, and safe delivery to the afterlife by her devotees.
Starting point is 01:01:03 So, yeah, I guess when he's doing his things, maybe what you're seeing on the outside of the house are things in that trip, things or spirits or souls or something transitioning. but you said that they interacted with him too where they actually listened to him so that's that's very interesting yeah it was the creepiest thing like he i mean this it was it was just not like you know everything that you just said about her i mean that's the thing but he was also he was which is kind of contradicting what you think about it because he was you know satanist right and like you know their rules or whatever to live by like destroying anybody who has your home without permission or kind of crazy stuff like that. That's why he said he liked it.
Starting point is 01:01:49 But I think that he was more into the evil part about it. Like, he wasn't, he wasn't bringing like souls. Like these were not human souls. These were something else. Yeah, it's interesting. And I mean, if he was practicing solo, to me, it would make sense when that somebody who's kind of doing it on their own might pull from different assets. aspects of different religions to kind of make it a, you know, like a casserole of, of, of, uh,
Starting point is 01:02:21 religions or, or whatever. Um, now, you said that you saw the mirrors breaking. Uh, what was that experience like? I mean, what was going on that, that, that you actually saw the mirror, mirror, uh, crack or shatter or whatever? I mean, did you actually see an entity in the mirror as that he was talking to or what was going on? Um, I didn't see, when he was just kind of staring into the mirror and staring off after he did his weird spell stuff. It was kind of just like he was definitely looking at something
Starting point is 01:02:54 I couldn't see it, but it was like he would just like stare at it and the mirror would just break. Like he kind of like it was almost like like a movie like he was telepathically breaking the mirror but he was it was something that he was communicating with and it was broke. It was the weirdest
Starting point is 01:03:10 scared me. I left. I was like shaking. I was all freaked out. My heart was racing. I got old like cold. My whole face went cold. It was, it was terrifying. He was just like it was like a normal thing. Like, I don't understand why, but he, it was normal to him. Well, I mean, imagine if you do something enough, it becomes very secondary to you. Whenever I, whenever I hear stuff like that, just I always try to think of a time of my life where, you know, a scary situation became normalized. And when I, I used to, in my early 20s, I used to be one of those guys that wrote parking tickets and booted cars and towed cars away in the city and all that stuff. And the city I was doing it in is really known for a lot of violence.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And very early on, it became very apparent to me that doing this job was definitely a dangerous job and I needed to be alert. And so every day driving to work into the city, I would pray for protection because I was very nervous to do my job. And then as time went on, I became numb to the environment I work in, and it no longer scared me. And actually, at some point, it almost became like a mental game, like understanding how the psychological aspect of the people who are coming at me every day,
Starting point is 01:04:37 it became different, very different. very different. And it was no longer scared, but more intrigued as I was going to work. And so when I think about people like him, I imagine if you do it enough, it doesn't necessarily become a scary thing, like it maybe once was, but more of an intrigue factor because it's like when you push yourself to the limit of something and you realize you were able to come back from that unscathed, the next time you do it, you want to go a little bit further. And you just keep going and go, going and going until you realize that the starting point you were at, you know, two, three years ago, the terrifying point you were at, you're so far beyond that, that that doesn't
Starting point is 01:05:18 even phase you. So, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I think that's definitely where he was at because these evil things being around, seeing these crazy things, like terrified me. And he was just like, it was like a normal day. Just, you know, don't worry about it. Don't pay, don't pay any attention to it. He'll be fine. Like, okay. Sure. I'll try. Yeah. So you mentioned about seeing things fly off shelves and stuff. During these experiences with the mirrors breaking, things flying off shelves, did you ever feel like these experiences that you were personally having were directed towards you and maybe to scare you or to harm you? Or do you think that you were just a byproduct witnessing things because of what he was doing? There was definitely a few times where I felt as though it was like a blatant attack on me. Like something didn't want me there. Something didn't want me there. Something didn't want me around. Like, and it would be pretty, pretty easily, like, things were coming at me.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Like, I got hit with remotes and candles, like the little tea light candles, little white ones. I have, like, a cute little wall hanger, and I had, like, the tea light candles in it, and those would just come out of nowhere, just heading out. I got to be in the kitchen, and they're coming from the living room. there was a few times where I definitely thought or felt, like, especially when me and him argued or, you know, we, we were mad at each other. There was definitely times where it seemed as though it was a blatant attack on me. Most definitely. So kind of like, how dare you yell at my boy? Kind of, yeah, I guess, you know, that makes sense, putting it that way. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Starting point is 01:07:01 if you think about it, like, if there are entities hanging around because of him, whether he summoned them or whatever, there's an attachment, maybe there's a possessive, not maybe not necessarily possession, which certainly probably could have been in the equation, but more of a possessive attitude when it comes to these things where they want him for for themselves and you kind of get in the way of his emotions for them, you know? Yeah, that's probably extremely accurate, actually. So I didn't ask you this earlier about your mom. You just kind of briefly touched on her activity.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Did she pursue that for a long time? Is she still pursuing it? Or is it something that was just a phase that was in and out pretty quickly? She maybe did it for about, I want to say maybe a year. But I also tried not to pay attention to do much. And she didn't really want us to know that she did. I just kind of hard to hide that stuff. And I was old enough to kind of catch on to weird things happening.
Starting point is 01:08:02 you know, different hobbies and such. But she doesn't anymore, it doesn't seem as though, like she's not even like a little bit of this person at all. So she's, um, yeah, she's just kind of, you know, she hasn't, as far as I know, she doesn't still pursue it. Okay. And, uh, the experience you had with the blobby, doggy Mr. X thing, whatever it is, Do you think that was spawned on from your mom's activity? Or do you think that was too set? Okay, so you do. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Do you think that that was a, how do you define that? I mean, do you define that as that there was a spiritual entity, a dog spiritual entity, a demonic entity? What do you think that was? Well, it definitely wasn't, it wasn't a dog. I think that it was, it was a dark little evil thing, is what it was. I don't know why it shows that shape or form or creepy. self, but it was definitely not, it was definitely evil. Like, it wasn't, there's nothing about it that
Starting point is 01:09:06 wasn't dark. Yeah, it makes me wonder about the whole X thing, because I'm pretty sure there's some kind of, um, symbolism there that I'm not thinking of when it comes to, uh, an X and what you experience. I mean, I imagine some people probably are listening and they're thinking, I know exactly what that X means, you know? Yeah, yeah. I, I, honestly, thing just scared me all the time and it was always there. It got to the point where I guess, yeah, at that point, too, I was used to seeing it.
Starting point is 01:09:36 There was a terrifying part whatsoever like we just talked about, but it just, I never actually really looked into it too much. There was one time where I did. And I think that what, if I remember, right, what came up was mostly, it was like, took the form of one of my biggest fears. And it definitely wasn't like a, it was a dark, evil. situation.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And I don't know why it would have the red eggs on it, but I think that did have some of the I don't remember. It was a while back where I even thought about this thing, honestly. Yeah, I can understand. Well, I'll tell you what, Cor, I appreciate you coming on and sharing these experiences. It's been interesting. And the boyfriend you had and stuff, how long were you in a relationship with him? A little over a year.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Did it end because of this stuff? Or was it just like, you know, you've really? realized that he was a douche. He actually, he got, I had a son with him. And while I was pregnant, he got violent with me and abusive. So I kicked him out. He was a douche. I got you.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I know, I know you mentioned he was getting violent with you and stuff. But do you think that was because of what he was dabbling in? Or do you think he was just a violent person in general? I think it was because of what he was dabbling in. He didn't, I don't think he was, it would only be like that or get like really angry or any kind of weird blue that he'd be in would be after he'd done some weird things. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show. Just share the show
Starting point is 01:11:14 if you enjoyed it because that's the best thing you can do to help the show grow. My dad is still here. Dad, how you doing? Still doing okay. Still doing okay after like, what, 10 minutes ago, and I ask you that question when we record the intro? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. So listen, I just want to remind people to go ahead and check out Hammer Lane Legends. It's a podcast. You and I've been doing for, what, a year and a half now? Yep, just about. Like, tomorrow is going to be episode 75. We've done it 75 weeks straight, 75 episodes.
Starting point is 01:11:41 It's you and I hanging out talking to other drivers. We've talked to people from the military, you know, truck drivers, people driving Uber, city buses, even landscapers. We talked to a lot of people, but we try to focus on the transportation industry and having people coming on that drive for a living to share their crazy experiences and just talk about life. It's just a fun conversational show. It is. It is a fun conversational show.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah. So it's Hammer Lane Legends. You can check us out on the website, hammerlainlegs.com, or any podcast playing app. And we even have a YouTube channel. And what Jack's going to be doing is I gave him my old GoPro. And he's going to mount that to his truck during the day. Jack owns a pest control. Right. Greenway pest control, right? Or is it greenway natural pest control? That's just greenway pest control. All your pest control needs. And trying to give him a plus. you know at least in the greater allentown area yeah help the young blood out you know but what he's going to do is he's going to mount the go pro to his pickup truck and he's going to film the road while he's driving and then he's going to take that footage and put it on youtube and overlay there's our show audio to that video so that it's kind of cool content where it's just like he's he's posting video of him driving around and you'll be able to listen to the hammer lane legends that way on youtube so we're trying some things are the YouTube channel, but listen, if all else fails, check out the website, hammerlay legends.com, or on any podcast playing app. We are there, Spotify, IHeartRadio, Apple,
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