The Confessionals - RELOADED | 383: A Trucker's Bigfoot Property
Episode Date: November 27, 2023In Episode 383: A Trucker’s Bigfoot Property, we are joined by Dylin who has had creatures on his property since he was a child. The land he lived on was passed down through his family for generatio...ns, and what lived in the woods was not spoken about until there was a reason to speak of them. Dylin recalls three separate occasions in his childhood where a bigfoot made itself known, but despite three encounters, Dylin still didn’t realize that there was something unique about this property. He even says that he thought he just had a gorilla living on the land in Louisiana! It wasn’t until Dylin was an adult that he locked eyes with something, and understood what was really happening there – and then all the memories from his childhood flashed before his eyes and started making sense.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0SPONSORSGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals60" for 60% off plus free shipping!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel
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Merkel?
Media.
I guess it's time to go back in time.
Are you telling me that you built a time machine?
Out of a Dolion?
Time is but a stubborn illusion.
I have a lot of memories of the past.
People are time traveling within themselves.
Time travel is possible.
Hey everybody. This is a podcast swap between the Confessionals and Himmerling.
Legends, which is a podcast that my dad and I host together for the last, I don't know, year and a half,
two years. We had a guy contact us to talk about his Bigfoot encounters that he had while he was
in his tractor trailer. We thought it would be a great show for both shows. So what you're about to
hear is a show produced as if we were doing it for Hammer Lane. But the content is right up the
confessionals alley. Let's get to it.
The driver's door ran out the side of the car, crossed the front of it, and jumped right up the
side of the bridge in front of you. The only people are really pulled over.
were truckers.
He said, we're going hot, and he didn't slow down.
He went across the median onto the oncoming traffic,
but where they could see him come and they just got out of the way.
I noticed his plane was really low.
He went right in front of us, hit the fence, and it sput around.
You know, 30 seconds more, he could have hit us.
I went around that truck and a guy,
stepped out from behind the truck and threw a piece of wood,
and it shot through my window.
just like a spear and stuck in the back of the cab of my truck.
That's probably one of the stranger things I've seen.
Welcome to the show.
Everybody, you're listening to Hammer Lane Legends.
I'm your host, Tony Merkle.
And I am Tony U-turned Singleton.
Okay.
That's a new one.
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You know, I mean, that's a good name for the voicemail line, a quick hitter line.
The quick hitter line.
That's it, right there.
We have a quick hitter line.
Sounds like I'm trying to put down a drug dealer or something.
It does.
Maybe we shouldn't call it that.
Hey, man, you got any of those quick hitters?
Oh, the voicemail line it is.
Yes.
So we're back to voicemail.
We're back to the voicemail line, the unnamed voicemail line.
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Show us that love. Now, today we got Dylan coming on the show. And this is a different kind of
show. Obviously, if you're listening to this right now, you're hearing me on the confessionals
and Hammer Lane Legends. So it's definitely different. It is different. Because I'm here.
Yeah, this is a pod swap. This is a pod swap or a swap cast or whatever you want to call it.
We're doing a crossover show. A crossover show.
So we got Dylan coming on the show today, and I thought it would be good to have Dylan as a pod swap or a crossover show because he's a truck driver and he's had Bigfoot experiences throughout his life, really, three in his childhood.
And the two sightings that he had were as adult and while he was doing stuff with his tractor trailer.
Yeah.
And so I thought, hey, that's like a confessional show and a Hammer Lane show.
So let's do a pot swap or a crossover.
So that's what we're doing today.
we got Dylan coming on to share the Bigfoot experiences he had as a kid on the property he grew up on,
and then what he saw as an adult as a truck driver. This is an overtime episode. We do a whole other hour
conversation with the house that Dylan grew up in, which was extremely haunted, and we get into that in the overtime.
So let's get to Dylan right now. All right. Today we got Dylan on the show. Dillon, what's going on,
brother? I'm sitting in a sleeper in Laredo, Texas, trying not to sweat. That good.
huh?
That good.
It's a good luck.
101 degrees outside right now.
Wow.
Geez.
Yeah.
That's hot.
I think I was in Pennsylvania last week where it was like 60.
Yes, sir.
I made one wrong turn and ended up in hell.
Oh, man.
So what part of Pennsylvania were you in?
I'd come through,
oh, the Harrisburg area, I went down from Indiana.
I had to go down from Indiana to shoot.
I can't remember where I went to now.
That's all right.
I can't remember half the crap I do either.
I've been in this truck for 13 weeks.
It all starts blending together after a while.
Wow.
So you said, when we were texting, you said that you took the dog for a walk,
and now I know why you got a partner on the road like that.
13 weeks is a long time, man.
That is a long time.
I'm actually about to slow down a little bit more, though.
Me and my wife paid our house off two weeks ago,
and that was the biggest reason for the pushes like this,
because 13 weeks for the past two years have been normal.
But now we have absolutely no revolving debt,
so I can actually be at the house a lot more.
That's awesome.
Yeah, that's good, man. That's good.
I mean, that's my goal in life, pay off all my debt, pay off the house,
be debt free.
I mean, it's just huge relief.
I'm actually thinking about buying my own truck in the next two years.
And so because I got I got three kids.
My oldest is six.
And my youngest is two.
Wow.
So I've missed a bit, but they have a house to live in that can't get taken away now.
Yep.
That's, yeah.
That's exactly what I think, too.
Like the idea of having the house paid off, I mean,
it's yours. All you got to do is keep up on the property taxes, which I don't like the fact that you have property taxes.
But we're not going to go down that road. But all you got to do is come up with the property tax money every year and you're good to go.
I never really thought about it before, but I wonder like if you pay off your house and you just had the property taxes, are you paying it all at one time every year or do you pay it monthly?
No, you would do it just like you do with the escrow account. Okay.
You know, it pays it every year.
You build up until the end of the year and then you pay your as bro.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Well, I think the only people have to complain about taxes is Indiana and Michigan with them road taxes because I don't know where the road tax money's going, but it's for sure ain't the roads.
Yeah.
You know, it's kind of like out Pennsylvania.
Yeah, I was just going to say.
I mean, so hold on a second.
I just drove to Kentucky and back this past week.
And for the first time and a long time, I drove across the state of Pennsylvania.
And, you know, I don't hit the turnpike a whole lot in my personal truck anymore.
And when I got on the turnpike, it just hit me.
I was like, oh, that's right.
They, you know, ever since the COVID stuff, they got rid of the toll booth workers.
Right.
And at the same time, they got rid of those toll booth workers.
They're not bringing them back ever again.
They raised the toll, the prices.
I'm like, how does that make sense?
So I'm like, okay.
You cut the cost.
You cut the cost with having to pay employees.
You raise the price of driving on the turnpike.
And I'm like, okay, these roads are going to be amazing.
amazing.
Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
I'm like, where's this money going?
Welcome to Pennsylvania.
It sounds like a pinball game.
Yes, it does.
It's like, as soon as I came back into Pennsylvania, it's like,
da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
And I'm like, you don't need the sign to tell me.
I'm in Pennsylvania.
You know, it seems to cross that line.
Oh, man.
My favorite one's like Indiana.
It's kind of like, you've been on the same 30-mile stretch of bad road.
And then there's that one side and it says rough roads there.
Wow, thanks for the one.
the morning.
It's pretty well,
flavor, right?
Oh, man.
I tell you, like,
it just,
it baffles me sometimes
how things are kind of
worked with the system and stuff.
But listen,
Dylan,
man,
you have a different show for us today.
People who are listening to this
are going to be listening to you talk
on Hammer Lane Legends
and the Confessionals
because you're a truck driver
with Bigfoot encounters.
And so,
I mean,
listen,
I think that you're probably
somebody we bring on
just for Hammer Lane
Legends down the road
because we're probably
not even going to get into
any of the bizarre things you've seen on the road or, you know, accidents or crazy, whip them out Wednesday stories or something like that.
I think, you know, it would be fun to bring you back on anyways.
But today we're going to get into this bigfoot stuff.
And so it's kind of like a blend between the two shows because this is definitely a
bigfoot show.
And two of the five stories you have for us happen while you were driving truck.
And so what we're going to do is we're just going to have you start off, though, in your
childhood, your earliest memories as to, you know, what you experience, what your family
experience, and we'll progress through there.
And just to let the audience know,
We're also going to do another hour with you today talking about the house that these things happened in was also haunted, like, severely.
And so we're going to do that for the overtime.
But today we're going to talk about the Bigfoot brothers.
So go ahead and start us off with how did Bigfoot end in your life?
I think the best way to start off is kind of give a background to where I lived at when I was a kid.
We lived out in a very, very rural part of Louisiana to where our nearest neighbor was, I want to say, probably about two and a half miles away from us.
I don't know.
If it rained too much, we didn't get to go to school because the roads flooded.
So that's how great my childhood was.
We prayed for rain a lot.
And it was, we owned about 80 acres of.
of Louisiana forest and we lived in the middle of the 80 acres.
So we had a plethora of all sorts of wildlife rounds.
We had deer, squirrel, rabbit, sconts, raccoons.
We had two ponds in the backyard to go fishing.
So looking back on it, we were probably asking for it.
But when we didn't have television, or we had a television,
but we had one of them old school pictures.
fork-looking antennas attached to the side of the house where you get you got this big
antenna but you're only getting four channels.
And so, and mom was a guide and light and as the world turns fan.
So when that came on, we had to be outside.
And you mean you chose to be outside?
We chose to be outside.
I got to be out of it.
I can't watch it.
And a lot of the time as kids, me and me and my brother and my sister, we would just go play in the woods.
We'd play hide and seek.
We'd build forts, ride ATVs, or just play the typical normal kid games, you know.
And the first instance, it wasn't, I wouldn't say an encounter for me because I didn't see anything.
I just kind of heard things.
Was a day that mom was about 30 minutes in to God and the light.
And my brother and I were playing hide and seek.
And we had this little patch that we really liked to play hide and seek him
because if he walked across our front yard,
our whole yard all together was about two acres.
So he walked an acre across the front yard in about 100 feet.
And that wood line on the other side,
there was this little patch that opened up.
And it had one long pines.
that's still the middle of that patch.
And that was always home base.
We got two or three rounds into it,
and my brother was cheating as usual.
And I finally got him on that last round.
It was his turn to count,
and I'd already been picking out hiding spots
as I was trying to find him.
So I went in hidden my little spot,
which was a little washout that had bushes over it,
and I fit kind of perfectly up in the bushes.
And he made it.
We always counted a 30, and he made it,
to 12, right around 12 or 13, and he stopped counting.
And I'm thinking, all right, well, he's been cheating this whole time.
He's probably going to stop counting and then sneak up on me or something like that.
And I'd say about two or three seconds went by, and you could hear these three rapid,
well, I wouldn't say rapid, but kind of consistent knocks like that up against the trees.
And I'm thinking, all right, well, now he's got a stick and he's trying to raise halls as
away through the woods to find me or something.
And after a few minutes, I heard the bushes behind me,
rustling, well, okay, he's going to snuck up behind me.
I'm going to run the home base.
So I took off running back to base, and about that point,
my dad comes walking through the woods with purpose,
and, like, every kid knows that you're in deep trouble walk at their dad has.
And as soon as I touched the tree, he grabbed my arm and, like,
prisoner of war
rubbed me back to the house
and when we got in the kitchen
my brother was sitting at the table crying
and I didn't know what was going on.
I thought dad had already got to him too.
So I was sitting there waiting for my turn
and I'd ask what had happened
and my dad said, don't worry about it, just go play.
Well, later that evening, my brother
finally calmed down and we were
sitting in the living room playing
Super Mario 64 on the
Nintendo 64. That's how long ago this one.
We were playing that and I was like, dude, why don't you leave me?
He was like, man, I was counting and I heard something move and I looked up and there was just
big gorilla sitting there staring at me in the woods and I just ran and I was like,
okay, so your little brother's out in the woods by his self with a gorilla and your first
concern was, I got you.
I love you too, dude.
So after that, we're cautious about playing in the woods after that because
we were still kids.
We didn't understand that Louisiana
don't have low-line gorillas.
We just thought
we were like in Africa or something
and there was a gorilla population on the land.
We were wrong.
Boy, was we wrong?
I think one of these things could take a gorilla any day.
But that was the first encounter
that my brother had had where,
I guess it's kind of an encounter for me.
I heard the bushes and the docks,
but I didn't see anything.
So I don't really consider an encounter
unless I make the visual eye contact or something.
So I want to say
probably about two months after that,
my dad had built a big fire pit
close to that patch,
probably about 100 feet before the tree line
to the patch of woods
that we like to hide and seek.
And it was a really nice firefitting.
It had bricks around it and had a little hill with a bench on top of it and a table and stuff.
And we would go up there and cook all the time in the summertime.
And one night, mom and dad are sitting on the bench talking to me and my brother and sister are running around,
throwing pine cones and acorns in the fire to watch them explode, this, that, and the other.
And then out of nowhere, there's just super guttural mixture between a howl and a roar just comes out of the trees,
the tree line.
And it's like time stood still because we were playing
freeze tag and as soon as that thing roared off,
we were all frozen.
We were just kind of looking at trees and then we'd look back at dad
like what the world was that?
We'd look back at trees and mom was like,
all right, well, I think it's time to go in the house.
So we're all following her and I'm trying to walk next to dad
because I'm like, you know, if anybody can defend me,
it's going to be dad.
And I don't want to talk bad about my dad,
but after my seeing the one in the later story,
I don't think Dad would have helped me too much.
But for the rest of that night,
even after we made it to the house,
you could still hear the howl and the roar.
But it was probably like every, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes.
And like every time you'd hear it,
it sounded like you got a little bit further and further and further and further away.
And even then, I just thought that gorilla was pissed off.
We got a fire going.
He can't make man's red fire like in the jungle book and he wants to know the story,
this, that, and the other.
My dad's just holding out on him.
But my first, my next instance, I was 16.
I was probably about 15 or 16, and this is about the point that I finally worked up to
the courage to ask some girl in high school.
school to date me.
And I think we'd been dating for probably got three or four months at the time.
And she liked to come out to the house and ride our side-by-side because she lived out in the
middle of the city and she didn't have the freedom like we had kids.
So she'd come out.
We'd ride side-by-sides.
Me, being young and stupid, I'd try my best to show off, or this, that, and the other.
And she'd come out one day and we were.
riding and we had a pipeline that run through our land and that was the main trail to all the
other trails we just get on the pipeline and find what our trail we wanted to be on well we didn't
get on the pipeline i had to use i had to take pee i was i'd been holding it since i left her house
so i stopped pee and um i turned around to see what she's doing and uh she's looking at me all wide-eyed
And I'm like, what?
Did I forget to zip up, you know?
I'm like, oh, my God, you don't see it.
So she's like, no, no, no, there's something in the woods.
There's something in the woods.
I turned around and look.
I was like, yeah, it's trees.
They're everywhere down here.
We're losing.
And she's like, no, no, there's somebody in the woods.
And I'm sitting there and going there.
There's nobody in the woods.
I have not heard any footsteps.
The side besides turned off.
I've hunted all my life.
I know what to listen for when there's something around me.
you hear a footstep.
And then I turn back to her and I'm walking towards the side by side.
And she just screams, there it is.
There it is.
There it is. Look, look, look, look.
So I turn around.
I'm still not seeing anything.
I'm like, man, you're crazy.
You know, like I should listen to my friends.
You're crazy, but I like it.
Crazy.
And she's freaking out.
She's like, come on, you got to get me out here.
You got to get me out of here.
So I get on side of the side.
I bring her back to the house.
And she's like, take me home.
I don't want to be here anymore.
And I'm like, that's because we're normally.
You like being out here.
But I took her home.
And that evening, she broke up with me.
And I was like, okay, well, I'm sorry that I had to pee, but, you know, that's your calls sometimes.
Like, I act like you ain't ever had to pee before.
It's a deal breaker there, right there.
You got to pee.
That's it.
I'm out.
I'm out here right at the side beside and you got a freaking pee.
Like, you couldn't handle this to our guy.
here. Like, but when she was texting, like, can you at least explain what you sing?
And she explained it just like my brother said, it was a gorilla, but it was standing up on two feet.
I'm like, you know what, that's not unusual. I've watched National Geographic.
I've seen them run on two feet and pound their chest, this that and the other.
But the 16-year-old in me is still trying to believe that I live in an area of a guerrillas,
and I should have known better by now. I've been in school for at least 10 years.
So before we go any further, did you at any time mention her to be like, yeah, we have a gorilla living on the property?
It's not a big deal.
No, because after the fire pit instance, we never really had any more instances.
And I just put it in the back of my mind because the fire, the hide-and-seek instance, I was like five or six.
and then I had been six because I was seven with the fire pit thing and I just turned seven.
And then the hard being there, that was about eight or nine years later.
And I hadn't experienced or heard anything since then.
So by the time I started having an interest in girls, my first pickup line was like, hey, it wasn't, you know,
you want to come back and see the gorilla we got at the house?
because I just wasn't thinking about the guerrilla.
I was like, oh, they didn't hibernated or migrated or whatever to Mississippi or something.
Mississippi's problem now.
To traveling trooper gorillas.
Yeah.
Yeah, for real.
For real.
And then after that, I was like, I didn't date anymore after that because after that,
she was like, they've got some kind of monster on their land.
And ain't nobody wanted to come out.
I had one friend that wanted to come to my house just because he wanted to see what it was.
And I think he's probably, he's the only friend.
I got left from high school.
That's just because he was, I think he's stupid back then.
So she ruined your reputation in school, huh?
Yeah.
And it wasn't in the normal way.
She said I had a gorilla.
She's like, they have a safari on their property and they have weird animals.
It's not, no, he's weird.
He plays dungeon and dragons or nothing like that.
No, he's got a freaking gorilla on it.
in.
Nobody wanted to play with me anymore.
I was offended.
In the email, you mentioned that when you were taking a leak, you had a particular feeling
like you were being watched.
You assumed it was her.
Yeah, I had the feeling I was being watched.
And I don't care who you are.
You could be in the middle of a field by yourself.
And then once you get that feel like you're being watched, it's really hard to shake that
feeling.
Like even if you're sitting in a room with somebody,
like you and your dad are sitting there right beside each other.
Your dad could look at you with you looking off and you'd feel like you're being watched.
And then he could look away,
but you still feel like you're being watched because he looked at you that one time.
And so when I got off,
she had been watching me walk to the woods to use the bathroom.
So I assumed that it was just her looking at me or me feeling like she was looking at me.
Come to find out, Bigfoot's a little bit.
bit curious fella and likes watching people pee he's almost like a truck driver to be
honest with his just don't got a camera and take pictures we all know what i'm talking about
oh man bigfoot's a perv he's got them weird fetishes yes you got
his apartment.
The walls are covered with weird pictures.
Just people in the woods being.
Got this one last week.
This is why they don't let
you all park here anymore.
But, you know, I think it's funny.
What we do, what our mind do
in order for us to cope with something or deal with something
or deal with something that's out of the ordinary,
out of our normal, you know,
In your mind as a kid, you're like, yeah, we've got a gorilla living here.
You know, even though you know you live in the United States, you live in Louisiana,
you know that, you know, there's no guerrillas living here.
I mean, I've never heard the guerrillas living in the United, you know, but our minds take us there.
And we live there.
We live in that spot until it gets destroyed, you know, until something happens.
But that's what we do.
That's how our minds work.
It protects us, you know.
It's a gorilla.
I'm okay, it's normal.
Well, that reminds me of a guy that I was talking to in the break room at Pitt a few years back.
He, we were all talking about what I do with the show and everything.
And he's like, I don't, he's from West Virginia, a real strong accent.
And he's like, I don't believe in Bigfoot.
And what was his name?
I forget.
You know who I'm talking about.
The guy with the strong West Virginia accent from my terminal, not Randy.
It doesn't matter.
The audience doesn't know anyways.
Right. They won't know.
So, and he's like, I don't believe in Bigfoot, this, that, and the other, it's like, okay, you know, whatever.
I don't care.
And then he proceeds to say, when I was in high school, me and my friends were driving around State College area out in the middle of nowhere.
And we saw this baby monkey run across the street.
Right.
And I was like, a baby monkey.
In Pennsylvania at State College.
And he's like, yeah, it was the strangest thing.
And I said, are you sure it's a baby monkey?
And he goes, what else could have been?
I'm like, get.
Okay.
That's what we do.
Yeah.
And I don't mean any disrespect to anybody, but it's just how our minds work.
It protects us from the abnormal.
And when I was a kid, I didn't even know.
I knew what Bigfoot was.
Bigfoot was that thing that they made in, what was it, Missouri, and it run over the cars.
That's what I knew what the Bigfoot was.
We went to Monster Truck rallies all the time.
I see Bigfoot every freaking day.
But he didn't look like the Bigfoot that we had.
had the gorilla we had on the land. I just thought we had Bobo living out there in the woods.
Knocking on trees and making hollers. I'm going to tell him you said that. That's funny.
So I also wanted to kind of hint back to the, I think it was the second encounter that your family
had together to bonfire because you said this in the email. I just kind of want to say to maybe hint
towards what we're going to be talking about in the second hour.
with the overtime. But you went into the house. You were scared because of what happened outside.
And something happened in your bedroom that didn't scare you nearly as bad as what happened outside,
which kind of gives it a little bit of perspective.
Yeah. As I mentioned in my emails, the house we grew up in was haunted.
Indian burial ground was on. But between that point in our house, there was a plantation house.
that house, I think, something like, somewhere between 30 and 50 slaves at the time.
And then there was a one-room schoolhouse that had burned down,
and a couple of the kids that ended up getting trapped inside the school when it was
burned down.
They burned to death.
And then my parents thought, hey, let's buy that land and put a house on it.
Perfect.
Our kids won't be screwed up by that.
But that night, we'd got back in the house.
The way the house is set up, when we have a front door for a year,
and then there's what we call, I can't remember what we call it.
There was just a room there.
I could have a room off there to the side.
And then you'd walk into the living room,
and you could either make a left around the bar into the kitchen,
or you could go across the living room into the hall,
which to the left was my sister's room, then the middle room was my room, and then the far
end was my brother's room in the guest bedroom.
And my brother and sister and I all had closets, I had double doors.
I'm like, you'd have one door here, and then there'd be a wall divider, and then there'd be
another door over here.
And I had a little boy in my closet that would stand in the wall divider because the whole
closet was open, and he would play peek-a-boo, which.
me on a pretty regular basis around that Waldivator.
He either look out one door and then pop back in and look out the other one,
or he'd look out that door, pop back in and look back out the same door to see if I'd
catch him in the other door.
That's for a different time.
There's a lot to hear this.
Yeah.
Yep.
Well, I mean, we'll get into all that stuff in the overtime.
And I remember you said, you're like, and that's the least of,
of my worries with that house. Yeah, that was the least of my worries at the time. And see,
that's another thing like Brian. It said it's weird what your mind does to cope with him.
So the whole time in my childhood, I thought that little boy was just my imagination. That was
my imaginary friend Ralph. Wow. So it turns out. I had one question for you,
with all the stories about with your dad and that kind of stuff. It sounds like, it sounds to me,
and I mentioned this to Tony earlier.
It sounds to me like your dad knew what was, you know, something was like he had an experience at some point earlier that, you know, when his, when your brother came running home and he was crying and your dad came and got you.
He didn't see, it doesn't sound like your dad was flustered by.
It was just like we need to go at the bonfire.
The same type of thing.
It's like we just need to go in the house.
We need to get away from here.
So did your dad have an experience earlier in his life?
Yes.
when they first bought the house,
or when they first bought the land to build the house,
they,
to see,
my dad didn't hire a contract to build the house.
Him,
his best friend,
and my grandpa built that house from the ground up.
Wow,
that's cool.
And they were always having experiences.
Before they cleared the land around the house,
they'd be working on the house.
And all of a sudden,
a rock or a stick or something,
would come flying out of the woods and just hit one of it.
Like, it wouldn't necessarily hit them, but it'd be within close enough proximity
that if it would have skipped, it probably would have hit.
And I found out later in life that he had actually seen it one day when they were working
on the house.
And I'm like, that wasn't your key to like stop building the house?
I'm like, you know that we didn't have gorillas.
I did not know we didn't have burrillas.
Right. So you're at fault for this, dad. It's your fault.
I blame him for the guerrilla experience and being a truck driver. I wouldn't do it.
It's his fault. Yeah. He was a truck driver.
There you go. I think.
Gets in the blood. Yeah, we forgot to mention that at the beginning that you started driving at 18 and your dad had taught you how to drive.
Okay, okay, okay, I'm going to correct that.
I started driving legally at 18.
There is a difference.
Because my dad had owned a logging company when I was really young.
And that was actually my first job was we had to set up a lot like most plants do,
where he had four different trucks and eight trailers and a yard truck.
And my job was to run a yard truck.
grab an empty trailer, get it loaded, set it out for when the road trucks come back from the mill.
All the day did they do is dropping the hook.
And the first truck you ever trained me in was a 1958 Mac Thermidine with a 5-4 quadruplex twin-stick transmission in that dude.
Wow.
I was 12 years old right at puberty.
I'm going to tell you right now that first week of puberty, my right arm was so tired.
I could have beat Arnold Schwarzenegger to arm wrestling contest.
And then he finally bought an old auto car with a 10 speed in it.
And after getting rid of the other stick, I was like, wow, this is an upgrade.
Now, the company I'm with now has me in an automatic.
And my first day in this automatic, I felt like Ricky Bobby.
I was like, I don't really know what to do in my hands.
Yep.
Can I sit on?
You're stopping the floor for clutch that's not there?
Yep, all the time.
We went and did the road test when I was at orientation for them.
And when I went to take off, I stomp the fourth of the clutch and reached over and grabbed the instructor's leg and just yanked it to me.
He's like, what are you doing?
I was like, I'm trying to get in the first gear.
He's like, well, you ain't even bought me a drink yet.
He's like first gear.
It seems like first base.
Yeah.
I'm like, if you think I'm rough, you should see Bobo the Borilla back of the house.
He grabs a hold of your leg.
He doesn't let go.
Oh, man.
That's cool.
That's cool.
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Let's hear about these experiences you had later in life with driving truck and Bigfoot.
Now, for what I understand, I think after the next experience you're about to share,
it actually kind of jumped you into kind of looking into the topic more, right?
yes it did um
because the next
the next one is actually my first encounter ever
with being faced one of these and after I
encountered it
um
for a while
I kind of I wasn't really
interested in it because
this probably should have been my other clue that dad had already
known about it but he would seem like the only person
apart from mom that actually believe
um the rest of my family just made it
a joke. And so I'll go
and give the encounter that way. I kind of explain what I do now
after having the encounter. First got my CDLs,
my CDL for you all grammar Nazis out there.
I started driving a truck for my dad. He had bought
he bought me specifically a 2000 woman Kenworth
W-900.
not necessarily a short truck.
It had 24-5s on it.
It don't really matter on height.
But just for reference for the truck drivers,
you all know how tall W-900 window is.
It's got that lip on it.
And the routine for us back then is when we'd always go home with the load no matter what.
And we'd get up at 1130 and midnight and we'd go to the meal
and then we'd come back to the woods,
which is about a two-hour drive,
get our next load,
go back to the meal,
and be back in the woods
by about the same time
the ground crew is getting to work.
So by the time,
Dad NEM's already there,
I've already made two loads,
and I'm like,
y'all are slacked.
But I don't know if you've ever been
on a logging site in Louisiana
at 2 o'clock in the morning,
but it's dark.
It's darker than Stevie Wonder sunglasses.
Poor Stevie Wonder sunglasses.
this episode.
Didn't wonder Ray Charles.
Yeah.
Ray Charles
get through the woods.
Yeah.
So,
um,
and dad was cheap.
He didn't buy me low lights.
So I had to really go off a headlight and my tail lights.
And it's really hard to see with red lights.
Yeah.
Especially covered in mud.
But, um,
I'd backed under my trailer and I got it off the landing gear because our landing gear is not
like what we got on.
trailers now. It's the kind that just folds up.
And I'd got my straps and I'd walked around my trailer and I threw my first two over the
front section. I went down to the back section. I was going to throw my next two.
And I got to my third strap. I looked forward because out of my corner of my eye,
I could see the front strap popping really fast. It was like somebody was throwing it up and then
slapping it back down against the load really tight.
They're like, oh, you know, it's kind of windy.
you know um also i should mention when i first got out of the truck um you could really smell
kind of like a musty wet dogish kind of rotten egg smell but i had played that off because it had
been raining and cut wood and rain it gives off a really pungent smell anyway um i went around
set my flags and i was getting ready to walk back around the front the driver's out of the trailer
is tight in the straps and when i walked around i noticed this big black figure next to the truck
and i'm like huh you aren't here all ago
So I stopped right where I'm at.
I'm not going to, like if I had to pee at that moment,
she probably would have left me because I'd have peed on myself.
But I'm sitting there looking at it.
I'm thinking, oh, my God, my only route out of here,
he's on the other side of this of my truck,
so I can't run or anything like that.
And this thing's every bit.
Like I said, I had a W-900.
and him flat-footed could look over into the window of the door of the truck
and see everything inside the truck.
This thing was massive.
Wow.
He looked like an outhouse on stilts.
I mean, he was just tall and broad.
I'm sitting there freaking out.
I don't know if he, I doubt he was freaking out because I'm not menacing at all.
Once I finally kind of collect myself, I'm noticing his head's moving up.
up and down like he's looking at my feet.
He's looking back up in my head.
He's looking back down at my feet.
He's looking back up to my head.
And all I can think of is this is how I'm going to go out.
I'm about to be a gorilla's breakfast or something.
And even then, at that point in life, I'm sitting here going, man, this gorilla is about to kill me.
I still think it's a real at this point in life, right?
I am 18 years old.
I've passed my CDL test and I'm still stupid enough to believe what I'm looking at to
for real.
But we stand there for probably 30, 45 seconds.
We sat there just looking at each other.
When I first seen it, I was scared, but after a while, the feeling of fear kind of
went away.
It didn't present itself as threatening.
It didn't present itself as trying to harm me.
It seemed more like it was curious as to what I was doing and what I was.
It wasn't walking towards me.
It wasn't walking away from me.
It wasn't making no motion, motions.
It wasn't making no sounds.
It was just looking at me.
Maybe it was something on it.
But after that 30 or 45 seconds,
my cousin, who also drove a truck for us,
had come in, and the headlights flashed around the front of my truck.
And when that flash happened,
he took like three steps and cleared a 20-foot space
from where he was standing at next to my truck.
into the woods and he was gone.
And when he was gone, it sounded like a freight train going through the woods.
I mean, he was stomping and throwing stuff down,
running through all sorts of trees, this, that, and the other.
And I'm still kind of in shock because I don't move.
I'm just standing there next to my tires.
Like, what in the world was that?
That my cousin coming around the truck, and he's seen me just standing there looking off in
his face. He's like, you're all right?
And I told him what happened.
And he was like, you take any cough syrup this morning?
Because I've been having the flu and he was trying to throw it off as me hallucinating from the cough syrup.
And I was like, no, I take no cough syrup.
And I didn't want to fall asleep with the wheel this morning.
But after that, I went to get back in the truck and you could kind of smell a little bit of a burnt hair smell.
So I don't know if he brushed against the smoke stack on the truck and it just kind of singed his hair a little bit.
I couldn't ever find hair on the truck when I got daylight.
So I don't really know.
And after that, once I got over my family making it a joke,
I actually went back to that same log and said that we had worked and camped out
and done Trenox and pulled up my best recordings of finding Bigfoot
because I'm not screaming like that.
I have sensitive vocal cords.
And there have been a few times when I did the tree knocks out there where I'd get a tree knock back.
And it seemed like every time I'd get a response out of it or what I thought was a response, it just piqued my interest even more.
And I would start going to different log insets that we had cut and seen if I could find something in that area, you know, because the logging set we was on at that point was 40 miles from our house.
And I remember the tree knocks when I was a kid.
And I was like, well, if it can tree knock at the house and I'm here 40 miles away and it's tree knocking over here too.
Well, maybe it's 40 miles in this direction.
Let's go check out over here.
I was the stupid white girl in the horror movies.
I was the one going towards the sound.
Close the door.
No, I think it's okay.
He was just there.
Close the door.
No, I think it's okay.
He's in the closet.
He'll disappear when door closed.
Yeah.
And I hadn't gotten any recordings of any of it because I haven't really gotten any major, major evidence.
I haven't gotten any screens or any video footage or anything like that.
But I have gotten a few tree knocks.
And some of them were in the daytime, so I can't 100% claim that they were necessarily Sasquatch tree knocks because we do have woodpeckers down here.
And sometimes they'll go to that.
tap, tap, tap, and it sounds just like three-knock.
But the ones at night, some of those, I can be like, maybe.
But I still go when I'm not living in this thing.
I still go every now and then I'll take, I won't take my kids camping with me, me and me, me and my buddy,
the stupid one from high school, we'll go camping.
The one is still hanging around.
Yeah, the one's still hanging around.
He's still looking for the gorilla.
Yeah, we want to capture the gorilla.
There you go.
And I don't know.
I asked him one time, like, what happens if we see one, buddy?
He's like, I'm going to shoot it.
And I was like, with what?
You don't have a gun?
It's like.
Good point.
He's like, I'll hit it with a car.
Like, you've seen that thing?
That'd be like hitting a moose and a freight liner.
Yeah.
But, yeah, me and him actually.
have an annual thing, like every July will go out and spend about three or four days and we'll
camp out for that entire three or four days and try to get recordings and video footage and
this, that, and the other where, um, I don't guess we're as good as everybody else because we
ain't got crap yet, but we've been doing this for six years. We ain't got nothing to show for it.
I feel like I'm going to school to be a doctor.
And, uh,
and, uh, so, uh, so, uh, so, so, so,
when you when you uh had this experience and you go home to start trying to figure things out what'd you
say like i know you had to go to google did you type in like gorilla in louisiana and like google
auto correct you bigfoot in louisiana you're like no dang it gorilla no bigfoot
gorilla no big foot oh crap it was a big foot does that when the light bulb went on well
when i was younger me and my dad actually i just well i wouldn't say this argument but um
he had jocke him one time.
I was like, maybe it was a big foot.
And I was like, that was not no monster truck out in the middle of them wood.
But I think I'd know a big truck with all them tires on it.
I seen one.
But when I went home, believe it or not, I actually typed in, escaped guerrilla from locals.
I knew it.
I knew it.
Yeah.
I was like, yeah.
Maybe there's like a weird gorilla out here, just living it up out of,
freedom, you know, you know, escaped Alcatraz and he's out here in the middle of the woods
living it up. But when I looked it up, it pulled up pictures of the skunkate. And I was reading
description of the skunk ape. And I'm sitting there going, man, I smelled that smell. And that's
about how big this thing was. And yeah, his hair kind of looked like that because it wasn't,
like to describe what I'm talking about there. I didn't get a really good look at the
hair, but you could see that it wasn't, it didn't look like he was covered in Bob Marley
wigs from hair to toe. It wasn't all matted up in the dreads or nothing like that. It was fine,
coarse hair. And I'm sitting there looking at the picture of this thing on Google. And I'm like,
that's what I seen. So I typed in Skunkake. And all of a sudden, all these freaking pictures
popped up and like there was the picture from the Patterson Gimlin film and all this and I'm doing all this research and going man they knock on trees and um their masters of stealth and this that and the other and like it still hasn't clicked on me about knock on trees parts yet by the way right so I'm sitting here and I go to YouTube and I type in Bigfoot tree knock and I hear the tree knock and then that's when it clicks in my head of what I heard when we were
playing hide and seeking.
I was like,
that wasn't a gorilla.
That was right.
That wasn't a monster truck.
That was a bigfoot.
So once it kind of clicked in my head,
I,
ever since then,
I've,
um,
I follow Sasquatch Chronicles.
I don't miss an episode of that.
I don't miss an episode of Confessionals or Hammerling Legends.
I don't miss an episode of the paranormal portal.
Um,
and anytime,
Anything pops up with Sasquots.
I'm listening.
I'm trying to get more information.
I'm hoping it, especially when it's the researchers and they're giving tips and trips on how to kind of get audio this way or audio that way or footage this way or footage that one.
Don't get me wrong.
Some of it sounds like complete trash.
I'm not going to sit out there and spread peanut butter on a rock and dump sunflower seeds on it and hope I attract a big foot because all I'm going to get is deer and birds.
but there are things that I do try.
Like I picked up on mocking the tree knocks from finding sask boy.
I'd seen Bobo do it.
I was like, hey, you know what?
Maybe that'll work for me.
And that's actually probably the only thing that I've picked up that's actually worked for me.
So, but I'm trying more.
I'm trying to learn more.
I'm trying to be more open about it.
There are points, like I'd mentioned a while ago, I can't credit everything to be in
big foot because sometimes it is in the daytime.
and we do have woodpeckers, and sometimes the woodpeckers do sound like tree knots.
But I don't think it's a grill anymore.
I'm proud to say I'm past that point in my life.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
But, yeah, that happened in that the one when I was driving a truck happened when I was 18, 2011.
And then I started driving over the road in 2014, and I'd been with this company,
because this is the only over-the-road company I've been with.
And I've been here for about seven years now.
So, no, not seven years.
I'm not a math technician either.
I'm a flat better.
Sorry.
I don't want to calculate.
I can do weight distribution and all that.
I can't do middle math.
But I'd been here.
for at least a year when my next encounter had happened.
And like eight different plywood plants within 200 miles of my house.
So when I go home, they usually just bring me to a plywood mill.
I'll get a load, bring it to the house, and then do my hometown.
And generally, if it's a tarp load, I'll wait until I get home and tarp it
because I got nieces and nephews that like to get in trouble.
and what better way to teach them not to screw up
than make them tarp up 53 foot load of lumber
with the 120-pound lumber tar.
But this particular week,
my nieces and nephews hadn't screwed up,
so there I was with my tarps in my hand.
And I'd part my truck at the parents' house
because at the time when me and my wife
is my girlfriend at the time,
we had moved into a
I was stupid and moved
into a house that my in-laws on across
the yard for my in-laws
and I didn't
I didn't have
it sounds like you've lived that too
no no just I'm just thinking about
you know the the the naive
naivety that what's the word of the
the situation
yep
there seems to be a pattern here
I'm really stupid up through my life
I wouldn't say that.
I'm going to say there's a recurring pattern for the rest of the stories here.
It all involves me being stupid.
So, or me being naive.
There you go.
Yeah, I would say naive more than stupid because stupid is as stupid does.
I've watched Forrest Gump.
I'm not stupid.
I'm just, I'm naive.
There you go.
We'll go with that.
but like I said I didn't have room in my house
I just parked my truck at my parents' house
because they had enough room for it
and this particular day
I decided to do my tarps at the house
which I'm looking back on now
probably should have done them at the mill
but
I'm sitting there doing my tarps
I have them all draped out and I'm trying to get on bungeeed
and it's a windy day
and if anybody's ever done flat
bedding and dealt with tarps on a windy day.
You kind of know how aggravating that is to where you
drape your tarps and all of a sudden the wind picks
it up and throws it over here and now you're
trying to straighten them back out again.
So I got a bungee in my hand and we'll bungee
in my hand and will bungee the corner of the rubber rail
and make sure it don't go nowhere, right?
Well, every time I can grab a hold of this thing, I'm still
only like 145 pounds. This tarp
only weighs 25 pounds less
than what I weigh. So
when the wind catches it, he yanks it out of my
hand and drags it over
and I'm getting aggravated. I'm like, man, screw this.
job. I'm ready to quit. I should have went and took that job as a manager at Wendy's. I'm tired
doing this crap.
Every truck driver has felt that sometime in time.
So I turned around. Like it did it the fifth time and I finally turn around. I got the bungee in my hand.
I just rear back and I chunk it through the wood. So I'm like, you know what? Screw this. I'm
tired of this. And I turn around and grab another bungee out of my bundle. I go to hook it through
that islet on the corner of the tarp and all of a sudden the bungee I'd originally throw
on slams into the side of the truck and hits the ground and I'm like oh trees are fighting back
and then just as soon as I like I'm sitting there trying to register what it just happened
and all of a sudden this gutter or roar just comes out of the woods from behind me and I do
that quick turnaround they have in the movies like oh god what's happening and I see it
I mean, it's just like the first when I've seen this thing might be a little bit bigger than it.
It's things going crazy.
I mean, it's tearing up the trees, throwing leaves.
It's got oak sapling.
It's probably about as round as a, I want to say probably a three-liter soda bottle.
And it's just whipping this thing back and forth like Indiana Jones.
I mean, it's got this thing moving.
and I'm still trying to figure out what's happening
why this thing is so aggravated.
It's not clicking that I just threw a bungee in this thing's direction.
And then it's finally, like, what I'm assuming is calm down.
It stops doing it, show of progression,
and just starts staring at me and staring at me,
and it's huffing like, and it's got this really just pissing,
off eye contact with me
and I'm
sitting here
with a corner of the tar for my hand
going now
it'd be a really good time
for that wind to pick up
and just drag me across the trailer
because
like it's funny
how the wind's never there
when you need it
but it's always there
when you don't want it around
and so it's finally
I'm at a point
where I'm freaked out
enough like I know I need to move
but my legs are like
no we can't
move because we're just as scared as you are.
And I sit here for like five, ten seconds.
I finally convince my legs it's time to move.
So I start slowly walking up the trailer in Spain.
It's just, I'm not trying to make any fast motions because my National Geographic
and schooling is like, don't ever run from a predator.
Right.
And I'm thinking back on to that first one where he made three steps and cleared 20 feet.
I'm only like 40 feet from this dude.
I'm like 50 feet from the door.
So if I run, he's going to outrun me to the door of the truck,
and there's not going to be anything to stop it.
So I'm trying to be as calm as possible with it.
I'm not trying to show fear,
which I think at that point,
it probably smelled the fear on me because I was letting a lot of fear out.
And probably about another, I want to say, 10 seconds or so.
I'd made it back to the door to the truck,
and I finally got the truck and called my dad.
dude, you've got to get down here.
Bobo the gorilla's back.
He's trying to tear up the trees around the yard.
He's trying to kill me with bungies.
So, like, if you can come get me, that'd be cool.
Not necessarily saying it like that.
I'm just trying to make myself sound more like a man than what I actually said to my dad.
Through tears.
My grandma lived five miles on the road.
So it took dad a few minutes to get to the house.
and when he finally got to the house
I guess the thing had hurt
because we had a really long gravel driveway
and I guess he heard my dad coming
because he turned around
he didn't run
he didn't jog
he didn't walk fast he just kind of
started slowly
blending himself in
with the trees around
into where we had lose sight of him
dad
power slided into the
front of the truck
ironically with his
door and on my side, I'm like, that's not helping me at all.
Now I've got a bowdoch across the hood of the truck and get in, and if I trip and kill
myself, things are going to have at it.
And again, the truck, and he's like, okay, explain to me what you've seen.
I explained everything that happened.
Like, this thing had to have been at least seven foot five, seven foot six at the most.
Because after I was all said and done with, I went and found that oak tree and it had one
little limb that I remember seeing whipping back forth.
that I measured from the ground to it,
because I remember from that distance,
he looked like he was only about two or three inches shorter than that limb,
and that was seven feet eight inches.
So I explained all that to him,
the hair, the facial features,
like he had a really primal facial feature.
Like he looked like he had the same shape head
and facial features as the gorilla,
but it was more not necessarily,
primate, but not necessarily human.
It's kind of right there in the middle.
It wasn't protruding.
The eye sockets were kind of sunk in a little bit,
but he didn't have no big Dan Aykroyd and cone heads shaped head.
He just looked like a big foot.
It looked like the thing from the Patterson-Gimlin film
with just a little bit less of a conned head.
His hair was not necessarily black,
more of like a darkish brown in most spots
with lighter brown in other spots.
and I'm sitting here explaining this to my dad and he's like,
yeah,
I think that's the one that I seen when we first started building the house.
And I'm like,
you're just now telling me this, right?
I am 23 years old and you're just now telling me this.
I wouldn't be parking here right now if it wasn't for that.
So he's like,
we didn't want to tell you all as kids because we all enjoy playing in the woods.
And I'm like,
I'd have enjoyed it a lot less.
I'd have been
I'd probably been a gamer right now
if it wasn't for that
like you willingly let me go in the woods
like you know
I don't know
but me and him had that back and forward
argument I'm thinking that same thing that you're
just that you're kind of alluding to it's like
wait wait wait a second dad you were okay with me
me and my brother and my sister being in the woods
knowing that there's something out there that could tear us apart
and you didn't want to interrupt our game time in the woods
For real. I'm like, Dad, what kind of logic is this?
That's Guy logic.
I don't care how long you've been a dad.
Every dad has these little quips and this little is a quick wit.
It seems like every time a kid comes out in this world,
that dad gains quick wit on his feet, right?
And I'm sitting here going, Dad, you let us go out in the woods and play like that.
and what I just seen scared the crap out of me.
Like, I'm probably not parking my truck in your driveway no more.
I'll be honest with you.
He's like, oh, good.
I'll have more room to park my boat.
That's a dad.
That's beautiful.
But, and then I got back to the point of,
but you willingly let us go out and play in them woods.
And he's like, yeah, your mom said we wouldn't be able to try for another one
if all three of you were still here.
so I'd fingers crossed back then, right?
I'm like, gee, I love you too.
That's funny.
Oh, man, you got to love dad humor.
I love it.
Yeah.
He's the same man that told me truck driving was fun.
I still don't like that.
It's all right.
Truck driving might not be fun, but that nursing home ain't going to be fun either.
but yeah, I explained everything to him.
And he's talking about, well, you know, this is what we had seen back then.
And what he described wasn't 100% what I had seen.
I mean, his was a little bit differently.
And I don't know if Shaswatches like human and primates where they had different generations.
Because like I said, this is, they built the house in 92.
And at this point, it's 2014.
It's been a while since they've built the house.
And he's explaining all this to me.
And I'm sitting here thinking,
I wonder if Bigfoot has generations
where the generations just live on the same land,
like kind of like humans do, just that and the other.
And I said, well, I said, well, how did,
what made you think this would be a good idea
to live on this land?
He's like, well, this is all the money me and your mom had
at the time was this land.
This is what we bought.
we didn't really have a choice.
We'd already invest so much into it.
We was just going to make the most of it,
and they have made the much of them.
They're still on the house today.
They still live in that house today.
I think they're crazy.
We'll get to that in the next segment.
But that was my last
Bigfoot encounter at that house.
And after talking to several
like my grandpa, my dad's dad,
he had, because
dad lived in the same
area that my great-grandparents lived in.
We still have the original homesteaded house that my great-great-grandfather built
on the land that we own.
Wow.
And we still have his original garden plot.
You can climb in the attic of that house and see the original cypress timbers he put
in the roof.
So the house has been in the family for generations, or the lands have been the family
for generations.
and how our family works.
It's not like when one of the elders dies, you inherit the land.
They give you the option of buying your own piece of land off the acreage for X amount.
Like the market price is about 5,000 an acre.
They let you buy it for like 1,500 to 2,000 an acre.
That way, the family is still getting money and you're getting land.
And it teaches you to appreciate what you pay for, this, that, and the other.
Yeah, and it keeps it in the family.
I mean, it keeps the land in the family that way, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it keeps the land in the family.
And we have, like I said, we have at least four generations of family living on the land right now.
And it's about 2,000 acres of land between the whole family.
But we have a lot of family too.
But he explained to me that we bought the land from your grandparents.
We didn't have any more money.
We didn't invest to everything.
and the building materials for the house,
we're just making a go of it.
And I was like, I get that.
Like, I understand that,
because now I'm a homeowner.
I do understand that.
But you still let me go in the woods.
Like, I'm not really mad about the house,
because it's the house.
I mean, sure,
there were things in the house to worry about,
but that thing can harm me a lot quicker than that stuff.
Right.
So,
it was like
when I was a kid
we played in the woods all the time
we heard the same thing you heard
and it never bothered us
it never tried to harm us
it never it just wanted us
out of its area
and I was like so that's why you came
and got me the day we was playing high and stick
and he's like yeah
because it was letting you know
you needed to leave
but I knew when your brother
come back crying and explaining
what had happened that you were going to be too young
to understand what to do
I came and got you.
I was like, okay, I get that.
So, I guess a lot of it when we was kids, it was,
Dad was just trying to live with it.
It wasn't trying to encroach on its land or anything like that.
If it wanted us out the area, Dad would get us out of the area.
We weren't trying to piss it off or anything like that.
We weren't chasing it down with kids.
hammers or letting people come try to take
the videos of it, this, that, and the other.
It was
just trying to respect
that it was there
and hopefully it respected that we was there
and in most cases it did. It didn't bother
us. We didn't bother it.
And
dad still tells me about hearing the whoops
and the tree knocks and weird sounds
he hears on
occasion.
He don't let the grandkids go in the woods, which is fun really ironic, considering he
wouldn't have the grandkids.
If it wasn't for me, who he let go in the woods?
But, you know, parents have a weird thing about the grandkids versus the kids.
Yeah.
Ain't that true.
Like, no, you can't have chocolate.
And then you have kids and they're sending your kids on at 9 o'clock full of Hershey's kisses
and Reese's kisses.
What's wrong with you?
you, you're real.
Well, you know, the thing is, is when you become a grandparent, you get to do all the things that you couldn't do when you were raising your own kids.
I swear to God, when my dad's ready to send my kids home, my dad will go, let's see how I like this stay up tonight.
No, not just one cookie, have three.
You want to take the pack home.
You go ahead and take the pack home.
They can't say no to me.
Yes, exactly. I'm grandpa. I know how that feels. Tony's just sitting there looking down, just not making eye contact with his old man.
He knows. He knows not to argue.
Listen, you send extra stuff home with my kids thinking you're going to get me. You're not. I'm just going to eat it myself. And they're not going to get it.
So I'm fine with it.
It's like I tell my dad, that's fine.
You can send it home with the kids all you want.
In three days, I'm not going to be here.
So it's going to be your daughter.
I'm not.
But, you know, the thing that I find really fascinating is that your dad learned to live with it.
He grew up with it.
So it was normal for him.
Even though it's not a normal situation, it's something that he was familiar with when you were a kid.
Because he had experienced it when he was.
a kid.
Yeah.
And so it kind of explains why he, you know, he didn't really, you know, I don't know how to say
it with, you know, that he didn't see the, the strangeness of it all, you know, I mean,
if that makes sense, if I can say it that way, because I don't mean it in any disrespectful
way at all.
I don't mean it.
It just, it was, you know, he grew up that way.
His dad grew up that way.
And, you know, generation, you know, as long as you, your family has been there,
they've been, you know, kind of dealing with that.
So it just seems like it was part of what he knew.
Everyday life.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's still like that.
I mean, we had bought,
me and my wife had bought five acres of the family land and put a house on it.
Like I said, we just paid it off.
And our kids don't really get out of the yard very much.
I mean, I have active kids,
but they're not,
and it's not through lack of trying,
believe me, like get out
of the yard. I'm trying to mow.
You're in the way.
But,
they just don't leave the yard.
And now, as a father
that has kids that likes to play outside,
they like to go hunting, they like to go fishing,
they like to go camping, they like to do this and that.
I understand a little bit more why my dad didn't
say anything because
my oldest son and my daughter,
they enjoy being outside in the woods.
And I enjoyed being outside in the woods as a kid.
If my dad would have told me a story like that when I was like five,
I'd have never went back in the woods ever again.
Yep, exactly.
And so I understand why he did it.
That's the time of the trying to tarp situation.
I was pissed.
I didn't understand why he was trying to get me killed like that throughout my life.
but now I understand
a little bit more
and I haven't told my kids anything
and they haven't brought up
anything about any weird occurrences
or anything like that
but
um
I didn't even told my wife
because I remember my high school years
and
I'm not going to stop and pee
trust me I won't I promise
like she knows a little bit of it
but it's not enough
like my wife
grew up extremely religious and I'm not knocking religion by any means, but for some reason,
religious people just do not seem to believe in certain things. And for her, paranormal
encrypted are in the category of do not believe. And I don't understand that. I don't.
You know, it's one of the things that has always baffled me. If I, you know, the, you know,
religious people, you know, read the Bible. The Bible is full of strange,
experiences.
And yet, you know, we have a problem with that, you know, in our own lives.
And, you know, not trying to get religious or get, you know, spiritual, you know, it's one of those
kind of, because I'm a Christian, and I don't see, you know, I just feel like these things are,
they're really, you know, there's people experience stuff.
And there's so many people who just look at it like, nah, you're crazy.
Nah, that doesn't, you know, it had to be this.
They rationalize everything away, you know.
And so I kind of see where you're coming from.
I get that.
And I completely agree with you.
And like I said, I'm not trying to get religious.
I'm not trying to knock religion.
But I have two groups.
I have the open-minded religious people,
and I have the closed-minded religious people.
And my wife grew up in the closed-minded community.
The open-minded ones are the ones that believe in all this.
and they listen to all these stories and go,
wow, that's fascinating, you know.
And then there's like my mother-in-law,
I'd explain one of the stories that I actually told my in-laws
about the hide-and-seek story.
And my mother-in-law, if I don't believe in any of that.
I was like, well, why not?
There are so many different accounts of this.
How can you not believe in it?
She's like, I've never seen it before.
I'm like, you go to church and read a book about somebody
that you've never seen before,
but you won't believe in Bigfoot.
That is, like, so contradictory to what your life is about, but I'm not willing to judge.
Right, yeah.
And I get that.
In a situation like that, I usually just drop it because I don't like arguing religion.
Everybody's entitled to their own religion and their own beliefs.
I'm not willing to try to change that.
So.
What I think one of the things that I find kind of ironic in that vein is that it's people who you know and people
who you love.
And when you share an experience that you've had, you, you've had, it's not like
you're, you're third handing it to someone else.
You know, all my friend's friends said that they saw this and this and this.
This is an experience that you had and people that you know don't accept it.
So that, you know, and I don't know where to go with that sometimes, you know.
And you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, that really goes back to what happened after my first and,
counter because after that point when I'd have the experience for the log truck, if I'd go to
like fan reunions or anything like that and there'd be like a weird noise or anything like
that to be like, dude, go check it out. It might be a big foot. I'm like, you know, that's scared
the crap out of me and you're sitting here making fun of me for that. You know, that's, right.
Like, I could get it that you all don't believe in that and you all think it's funny. But
one day I'm going to be that thing's friend and he's going to come pay you a visit
I can promise you.
I'm bringing him to your house.
For real.
Harry's going to meet your Henderson's, believe me.
Well, Dylan, I listen, man, I think that this was really interesting conversation.
I think it was fantastic.
But I'm just going to be honest with you.
my neighbor just started mowing his lawn and it's going to ruin my audio. So I'm going to cut this
conversation off now. We're going to call you back later for the overtime recording.
Tony just looked at me and he was like, he's giving me the sign for Larry. Let's go. Let's wrap it up.
As soon as the lawnmower goes on, it's like, okay, wrap it up because it's going to ruin my
freaking audio. Yeah. It's a rainy day. I was hoping they'd skip today, but apparently not.
So, Dylan, we'll talk to you in a little bit. Thanks for chatting, man.
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