The Confessionals - RELOADED | 393: Pro Wrestler Sees Sasquatch

Episode Date: March 11, 2024

In Episode 393: Pro Wrestler Sees Sasquatch, we are joined by Robby Vegas, who is a professional wrestler. One night while making an eight-hour drive home to Vermont, Robby and two other wrestlers saw... what may only be described as a sasquatch. He details what they all saw, and what they thought, as the encounter occurred. Robby also shares some of his paranormal experiences involving Oujia boards, spirits, and strange occurrences.The Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinWatch The Shape of Shadows: https://www.merkel.media/stream-nowWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0AFFILIATESPrepare with Valley Food Storage: https://alnk.to/2uG55AOGet your Nephilim Blaster 2000: https://alnk.to/9mnHak1Bluecosmo Satellite phones: https://alnk.to/e769EipSee Bigfoot with Sionyx night vision: https://alnk.to/bEhxr3FEmergency medical with My Medic: https://alnk.to/dpr6QM4Black Beard Fire Starters: https://alnk.to/4BFcIbeEcoFlow Power Generators: https://alnk.to/flvpAQwGoDark Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/5jke3rkEMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSFACTOR MEALS: factormeals.com/confessionals50SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsHello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionalsfree Promo Code: "confessionalsfree" for FREE BREAKFAST FOR LIFE!!!CONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Merkel Media I guess it's time to go back in time Are you telling me you built a time machine Kind of a Dolion Time is but a stubborn illusion
Starting point is 00:00:17 I have a lot of memories Of the past People are time traveling Within themselves Time travel Is possible This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave, and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. and spears, Dan, holds them up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Feel something, and I look over, and there are two. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. It's pushed, and I touch it, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster. Okay, I reloaded. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here.
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Starting point is 00:03:23 Thank you very much. And before we get into this week's show, I just want to give you a little bit of a teaser, teaser, teaser, teaser, about a week, a little bit more than a week ago. I did an interview that I think might have changed the way I view the world. maybe maybe but it is a huge groundbreaking story that i'm telling you friends it's so big and so deep and it has so many different angles to go down and paths to go down i've already talked to several people connected to this story it keeps getting deeper every time i talk to somebody else it's so big that i'm probably going to wind up releasing it as its own new podcast where i just do a limited
Starting point is 00:04:07 series of my investigation into this story. It's that big. It's going to blow your mind like it's blowing my mind every day I think about it. I wake up thinking about it. I go to bed thinking about it. This is a huge, huge story that I just don't think I can put on the confessionals and break it up into episodes and mixed in with other episodes and it's hard to follow. And if you want to share it with somebody, they're like, well, where's the rest of the stuff? Because there's all this other stuff. I'm just going to make it its own podcast where it's its own individual stream and it's a limited time series. So it'll be only a set amount of episodes more than likely unless new developments come down the road. But friends, I'm telling you right now,
Starting point is 00:04:47 when I drop this new podcast, you're definitely going to want to listen to it and blow your minds. It's huge. I mean, why would I ever start a new podcast unless it's that big? Like, it's seriously huge. Right? So I'm putting that bug in your ear. It probably won't drop for another year or something. But when it drops, trust me, you're going to want to check it out. Friends, listen, we have Robbie Vegas coming on the show today. Robbie Vegas is a professional wrestler who has seen Sasquatch and he had witnesses. And we also talk about paranormal experiences, including some Ouija board stuff. This was a fun, good, awesome conversation with Robbie Vegas.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So let's get to it right now. All right, today we got Robbie Vegas on the show. How you doing, man? I'm doing great, man. How are you? I'm doing good, man. Listen, the reason why I said that, well, you know why I said that way. Bobby Vegas, because you're a professional wrestler.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I am. I am for the better part of a decade now. And, yeah, and a rock musician, acoustic musician, and a podcast host. Man of many, many talents. Renaissance man. Yeah, man. So let me ask you, because, you know, I saved the good conversation for when we're recording, because I wanted to ask you earlier, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:13 ah, let's just wait. How did you get involved in wrestling professionally? I mean, were you a wrestler in high school and just was a natural transition or were you like in a bar bouncing somewhere and you were like half drunk and somebody's like, you'd be a good wrestler? So neither of those actually. I was a lifelong wrestling fan from probably my earliest memories are of professional wrestling. And I, you know, I never knew how guys got to the WWE or any of these other companies that were around at the time and are still around now. and I was actually in the gym and a guy came up to me and I had just recently discovered that there was like an underground kind of wrestling scene, the independent wrestling scene and I had gone through a few shows and he came up to me and said, you know, for a guy your size, you're pushing an awful lot of weight. Did you ever think about becoming a professional wrestler? And I was like, every day. And he was like seriously? And I'm like, absolutely. So he took me to a school. I did a couple classes. Ended up finding a better school where I went to for a year. And, and he was like, seriously. And he was like, And I trained there like three, four days a week for like four or five hours a session.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And after that, the rest was history. The promoter came to me and said, I think you're ready to be on shows. And I just kind of hit the ground running. Wow. That's cool, man. That's really cool. So it kind of just happened organically for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It was something that I always dreamed about doing and just didn't know how. I didn't know that there was a such thing as like just wrestling training schools around the country or, you know, I just assumed that you had to be a high school wrestler who went through college and then somebody saw you and was like, hey, you want to, you know, do this. And I never took that avenue. So I was like, well, game's over for me. And then it ended up happening anyway. That's awesome. Yeah. I think it was Kane back in the day. I know he's retired now. I think that's his name, right? Kane, it was the Undertaker's brother for the lady. Yeah. So I think he was a college basketball player and he was looking at playing overseas. And, or maybe the,
Starting point is 00:08:13 was The Undertaker. It might have been The Undertaker, one of those two guys. And they, and they were looking at playing basketball overseas and they kind of stumbled into professional wrestling and, you know, made a career out of it. Yeah, it's pretty amazing to me how many guys got into professional wrestling who became some of the biggest stars in the world who didn't even think anything about becoming a wrestler before they actually did. And that's mind-blowing to me. Like, I hear guys do interviews that were like, I was never a fan. And then I was at this one place and somebody said, you look great and now here I am and I'm like, whoa. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:46 It's freaking crazy. But hey, you know what? That's how I feel about podcasting too. You know, it's something that never thought I'd be doing this. It was never part of the plans, you know, but here I am podcasting. You have a great show and I'm a huge fan of your show. I appreciate it, man. I always wonder who's listening, right?
Starting point is 00:09:05 So to be honest with you, a professional wrestler has never crossed my mind. So I'm such an NBA nerd. that, like, I always wonder, is there out of the 450-some players that are in the NBA, has one of them ever stumbled across my show and liked it? Hopefully they didn't leave me a bad review on iTunes, you know? Because I think I talked bad about LeBron a couple times in the history of the show, and I've invited Kyrie on my show just by saying it. So, like, you know, but, yeah, man, it's just you never know.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You never know. I know there's some people who've been on TV and have had TV shows and things like that that follow the show and they're big fans of it. I'm just like, that's crazy to me because here I am just stupid Tony with a podcast. And I know everybody calm down. Whenever I say, I'm just a dumb Tony truck driver kind of podcasting guy. Everybody's like, you're not dumb. You got to stop doing that. I know. I'm sorry. But you know what I mean? Like you just, you, Robbie, you know yourself more than anybody else. And the same thing with me. And it's just like when I look at myself, when I'm introspective, I'm like, there's nothing special about me. What the heck? Why, why is this happened for me? But, you know, it's, it's a blessing and I absolutely love it every second of it. Yeah. And it's a very humble quality to have. And I find myself doing the same thing you're doing, whether somebody buys one of my t-shirts or, you know, pays money to come see me do what I do. It's always mind-blowing to me that they want to, you know, meet me or talk to me or listen to my show or, you know, wear my merchandise. It still blows my mind every time because who the hell am I? You know? Yeah, just Robbie. And I'm just
Starting point is 00:10:43 Robbie. Yep. So let's get to the musician aspect of things. You didn't tell me what kind of music and stuff, but I'm judging by your career path and your hobby of horror movies. I'm thinking you have some kind of like metal band, right? So I actually have been in a lot of metal bands and hard rock bands. And I do have stuff out on iTunes and Spotify and all that. It's just under Robbie Vegas. But I have a totally different avenue at the same time because as much as I love my hard rock and my metal and I have that stuff out for people, I also do a lot of acoustic solo shows
Starting point is 00:11:22 where it's just me and my acoustic guitar doing my own thing. And I'll play for two, three hours just by myself sometimes. But I've been in the music scene since I was 13 years old. I played my very first gig with a full band at 13. And I've been playing ever since. And that was 20 years ago. So I guess I'm doing okay because I'm still going and I made a lot of cool friends and got to open up for some bands that I really enjoy.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And, you know, when the bigger acts come through my area of town, I play on the side stages for bands like Kiss and Motley Crew and Alice Cooper and stuff like that. Dang. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. That's cool, man. Yeah, I'm just trying to picture you doing. a show by yourself with your guitar singing some kind of lullaby or something nice and soft and gentle,
Starting point is 00:12:10 right? Yeah, that's what I sing, Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star. Some John Mayer, some John Mayer. I could do some John Mayer if I was, I guess, if I really had to, I could do that. There you go. All right. Last thing I want to promote with you before we get into your story, and that's your podcast. You mentioned it. What's the podcast called, and what do you guys talk about? So it's the All Betts are Off podcast with Robbie Vegas, and it is on every single podcast app you can think of much like yourself. And we interview horror actors. We interview professional wrestlers. We interview rock stars. And, you know, when we're not doing interviews, we're doing album breakdowns and movie reviews. We do rankings. We do lists. And we just kind of stick to those three topics because that is, you know, my interest. That's my life. I'm a huge horror movie nerd. And I go to horror conventions. I listen to the confessionals when I'm on my way. And I, you know, I just stick with those things because that's my wheelhouse. And I have a lot of knowledge on what I tell people is a lot of knowledge on useless information. But a lot of people think that it's cool that I know so much about
Starting point is 00:13:15 those topics. So I started the podcast. That's cool, man. Yeah, I, you know, I was just talking to this guy, Kyle on Messenger before I was talking to you. In fact, I mentioned that to you earlier. And one of the things I was telling him is that, because he was talking about wanting to start a podcast. and I just, he was asking for pointers. And one of the things I said to him was, just be yourself, you know, like, because people, people can smell a faker a mile away, you know? Oh, yeah. And there's a difference between trying to learn who you are behind a microphone and not being
Starting point is 00:13:47 yourself. So, like, everybody has a learning curve because you get this, I've seen it a million times. I mean, like, my uncle, for instance, I had him in studio with me and my dad. not the one for this show, but for Hammer Lane Legends, my other podcast, me and my dad had my other uncle in studio. And he's a character. He's, he's awesome. Like, funny, you know, says crazy stuff, and that's what the show is about. And when you put the microphone in from his face, he, like, froze. And it was, like, who is this guy? You know? And so there's a learning curve to trying to learn who you're going to be behind the microphone, because there is a certain level of,
Starting point is 00:14:29 theater to it in a sense where you just can't, like, I can't come on and hit record and talk to the world the way I would just kind of like mumble to somebody across the table in my living room or something like that. You know what I mean? Like you have to kind of project your voice and kind of really give it more inflection and stuff like that. But that aside, you're trying to learn, you know, who you are hearing yourself talk like this. And so there is a learning curve with that. But I don't, I don't identify that as a faker. It's just somebody who's trying to learn what it, what, what, what podcasting them is. But if you, if you're going to come on a microphone and try to portray to be something you're not, that people sniff out a mile away, a mile away. Oh,
Starting point is 00:15:17 yeah. 100%. And it's funny too, because when I first started the podcast, I was like, you know, being in the professional wrestling business, I'm like, am I my character right now? And is that what I'm doing. And that was like my only feeling out process was maybe I am, but I'll turn it down just a little bit. Yeah. And that's a great example because how many times do you see, for instance, I know I saw the Undertaker do like a three-hour interview with Joe Rogan, maybe, I don't know, a year ago or whatever it's been now. And when he was on with Joe Rogan, he was just his normal person. You know, he wasn't the character. And it was actually a little weird hearing him just talk like a normal human being and not rolling his eyes in the back of his head, you know? Yes, yes. And it's funny too
Starting point is 00:16:06 with him because he for 30 years wouldn't do interviews like that. So now that he's retired and he's doing them, it's strange for everyone because the Undertaker was always just the Undertaker. He wasn't Mark Calloway. And it was, it's so weird now hearing him do interviews because he never broke that character until now. And that's what it, I remember hearing him say that during the interview. And I thought, man, that must have been hard. I mean, living the majority of your life in a character every time you step outside your house, that, that takes a lot of energy and dedication, you know? Oh, yeah. That's a lot of mental toughness there, too. Big time, big time. So, all right, we talked about wrestling. We talked about everything under the sun in the first 10 minutes. Let's get
Starting point is 00:16:52 of the business here. We're going to start off with Sasquatch stuff. Now, I'm going to let you kind of take this whole story away because I know there was you and other people involved here, but where, when, why, what were you doing that you saw what you saw? So this was actually a few years ago. I want to say two to two and a half years ago. And of course, we're going to bring it back to pro wrestling because I was on a pro wrestling trip. And I was wrestling in Barry, Vermont. And I'd never been there before. It was my first time wrestling there. It's my first time in the state, period. It was a long drive for us. It was me and two other guys. And one of the guys had brought his girlfriend at the time. So we're driving and we get into Vermont and we're starting
Starting point is 00:17:37 to get close to the venue. And all of a sudden, I'm looking around and I'm like, oh, this, this all looks super familiar. And the friend of mine who was driving was like, well, have you been here before? And I was like, no, but everything looks so familiar. I was having like real deja vu. And as we're going, I start seeing signs for Sasquatch Festival. And I see souvenir shops. And I see a big Sasquatch statue. And I'm like, that's why I know this place, because I'm huge into Sasquatch and Bigfoot encrypted. I saw this place on a documentary somewhere. And so now I'm excited. And I'm like, well, we got to stop somewhere on the way back because I want to take a picture with this statue or at least get a picture of this statue. So we're driving to the show. It's still light out.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And we hit this area that we started calling the dead zone because there was no houses. It was just all woods. And the radios went out. Our phones lost reception. And we had absolutely like nobody around, no streetlights, nothing for about a half hour of this drive. And these guys to call them out are afraid of everything. So they're freaking out already. And I'm teasing them. And I'm like, this is it. This is where everybody sees Sasquatch. So we go to the show. We each have our matches, and we're going to come home that same night and just alternate sleeping. It was a long drive for us, and we had another show in the morning way on the other side of the, well, states over, we'll just say. And I'm like, all right, so let's just head out. We'll alternate sleeping and we'll get going right now.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Show ends. We hit the road. As soon as we hit the dead zone, I start messing with these guys because they're freaking out. And it's pitch black, not a house, not a streetlight. I mean, absolutely insane how dark it is. And we're covered in trees so it's even darker. I pull out my cell phone and I'm shining it in the woods with the flashlight. And I'm going, this is it, guys. This is where we see Sasquatch. He turns the brights on just because I was freaking him out so bad.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And we see this giant creature standing next to this boulder on the side of the road. And I know we all saw it at the same time because I literally dropped my phone. And he sat up and said, what the, and the guy that was riding in the back, thankfully his girlfriend was sleeping, but he sat up in between both of us and his eyes were wide and he was just staring. And this thing, I don't know how to judge how tall it was, but it had to be eight or nine feet tall. It was gray. And it was real shaggy looking. And the boulder that it was standing next to was only up to like its waist. And as we, you know, came up closer to it, it just took like one giant step into the woods and it was gone. And we froze.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And I didn't even pick my phone up. We were just sitting there driving in silence. And finally, when we got out of that dead zone and like the radio clicked back on and we realized we were safe, he looked over at me and was like, what did you see? And we all started to like say the experience to make sure we all noticed the same thing. And then of course it became you caused this with your stupid cell phone and whatever. But it was just like the craziest thing. We really were scared because there was, if anything were to happen out there, we had nothing. We had no radio.
Starting point is 00:20:56 We had no lights. We had no phones. So it was kind of like stay silent and finish this leg of the drive. And then we'll discuss it after because I don't want to be any more scared than I am right now in an area like this. Yeah, I can understand the fear that goes through you when you see something bad. I've never seen it. I mean, there was a period of my life here when I started having kids where I didn't want to see it.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I was just like, I don't want anything to do with these things now because I got the kids. I don't want to die, all that stuff. And now I'm back in this mode of, all right, I got the kids. I love them. They know I love them. Let me see this thing, you know? Well, you know, I got to say it was in hindsight, it's a really cool story to have and to tell because a lot of people don't have that. And I'm not like terrified anymore, but in the moment when you realize that like, hey, guys,
Starting point is 00:21:50 if this thing wanted to and it plowed into this car, we're screwed because we are literally in an area where we can't even call for help. Did you, I'm assuming you never really got an aggressive vibe from it other than just the idea of that thing's huge and I don't want to be near it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was tall and it was wide. Like you can tell this thing was like thick. I would almost consider it to be muscular.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And like I said, when we saw it, he had the brights on and we were getting closer to it before it stepped away. And the whole thing probably only took about five to seven seconds, but it felt like forever. Yeah. Well, it's something that you're going to be able to tell the story for the rest of your life and, you know, remember, obviously. Now, the guys that you were with, do they ever talk about this at all anymore? Or is it more like we just don't talk about it?
Starting point is 00:22:44 They'll talk about it with me, but I don't know that they tell the story because I actually had one of them come on my podcast because I wanted to tell the story and I wanted somebody with me who could vouch for me. So I had him come on and say, yes, this is this happened. We were in the car leaving a wrestling show. I believe the company was Atlantic Championship Wrestling, if I remember correctly. And yeah, and it was just a mind-blowing thing, especially for some people. like me who's been into it my whole life. Like if I'm flipping through channels and I catch wind of
Starting point is 00:23:15 anything Sasquatch or Bigfoot, I'm stopping. I need to see this. And if I, you know, hear it on a podcast, I'm listening. I have to hear this story. So to actually have my own experience when I'm such like a big believer was mind-blowing to me. And I did make them stop and take a picture of the statue also. Of course. Now, before this experience or maybe even after, did you ever? get into this idea of going out in the woods looking for these things? I have, but I never really knew where to start. So there's an area not far from me called, well, it's up in the Lewiston area of New York. So it's like Lewis in Niagara, there's a gorge called Devil's Hole. And apparently there's been sightings there, which I didn't know. And I actually did come across a footprint one
Starting point is 00:24:07 time and totally thought nothing of it because I just figured it was somebody playing games. So like I saw it and I stopped and was kind of like, oh my God, because I'm a big hiker. I love hiking. And I've always wondered if I would come across anything like that. And then I was like, there's no way. There's no way. So then I got home and I did some research and I found out that there actually are sightings down there.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So I might have actually seen the real deal. So you're in what, upstate New York? Yes. Yeah. I'm in Western New York, Buffalo and spend a lot of time between here in Rochester. like Rochester is like my second home. So I do a lot of hiking in between. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah, I was in Potter County, Pennsylvania, close to the New York border a few weeks ago on vacation. And from what I understand, it's not too far from Buffalo, but, man, is that area remote? And I know just across the border and further to the west is the Chautauqua, I think it's Chautauqua State Forest or something like that. Yes. Yeah, and so I did a speaking engagement there years ago, and I know how remote it is there. And when I was out there, I was just thinking, my Lord, I can truly, truly, truly understand. Because I wasn't driving through like any other time. I stayed there for a week.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I'm out there. And I was just like, this is crazy remote. And I could totally see how these things could just exist out here. And I'm not kidding you. Me and my wife and my kids went to two different places. like just a touristy kind of place, you know? Like the one was a place that has, they call it the ice mine. And it's because it grows ice, excuse me, it grows ice during the summertime.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And the ice melts during the wintertime. It's really weird. And we went there and then we went to another place where you could feed like deer and stuff and do the gem mining thing and kit stuff. And both places that I went to was promoting. bigfoot. The one place had a had a t-shirt with a bigfoot on it and said Bigfoot in Potter County. And then the other place, the lady was wearing a Bigfoot t-shirt. And I was like, Bigfoot's just like ingrained into the culture out here. It's absolutely amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Do you notice that at all where you're at plus the area that you saw this thing? Is it like just something that's part of the culture? Not so much where I'm at, but definitely in Vermont. There was a sign, I can't even remember when it was now, but it had, they were getting ready for a Bigfoot festival that the town was about to have. And a lot of little stops in the gas stations and the little shops that we were driving past had like Bigfoot memorabilia in the windows and, you know, souvenirs and things like that. So they really embraced it. And like I said, right in the middle of this town was a statue of Bigfoot. And I'll have to send it to you when we get done here so you could see it because I did take a picture of it. unfortunately it was at night, but it's, they really embrace it and they don't seem to be afraid of it if they're having festivals, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Yeah, a lot of these places, they're not. And the one lady I didn't talk to about it, probably got distracted with the kids or something, but the first lady I saw, I talked to her about it and stuff, and she said, yeah, we have sightings out here. And she was just talking, like, matter of fact. I mean, she's, she wasn't, you know, an enthusiast, you know, like, you know, the people that would maybe be on this show or myself. She was just, yep, they're here. Like, it's just another, just like, you know, oh, yeah, like everyone's in a while you see a bald eagle and, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:42 right next to it sometimes it's a Bigfoot, you know, it's whatever. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, I read a lot of people's stories in like Bigfoot books that I read. And a lot of them who have, like, consistent experiences seem to have that mindset where they're just like, yeah, we leave a sack of potatoes out on the back porch and they come and get it. And I'm like, what? That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm not feeding Bigfoot like I feed ducks, you know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Not happening. All right. So that was your Bigfoot encounter. And you have, like you said, you've always been interested in these kind of things. And obviously the Ouija board is something that you've messed around with and stuff. So what are some of these experiences you've had with the Ouija board that, you know, you want to bring to the table?
Starting point is 00:28:26 Well, before I tell the story, I have to say this, don't ever play with a Ouija board. I used to do it all the time and I don't want to do it ever again and I never will. And like now when I come in contact with them, I'm like, nope, not for me. I, it honestly started just kind of as a hope because I'm like you just said, I'm into the paranormal. So for me, I was like, oh, this will be great. And it's like a way to like prove that this exists. And I'm like very open to it. So it seems to find me.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Like I remember having like seeing things as a kid and being like, was that a ghost? and then like trying to talk myself out of it. So when the opportunity came to do the Ouija board, I was like, cool, let's do it at my house. Because at the time when I was living with my mom, she had activity in the house anyways. And we all knew it. So it was like, let's do it here because if we're going to get anything, it's going to be here. And this went on for months. And my good friend of mine, Dan, who I used to play, you know, music with and I'm still in contact with to this day, who moved to Salem, actually.
Starting point is 00:29:28 he used to come over all the time because he was really into it as well. And we started getting like the same spirits over and over again. And they would give us the same names over and over again. And come to find out like the board was spelling out like complete sentences to us. And it was like letting us know that we opened up a portal and that there were angels and demons and all of these things it was telling us. And as kids at first, you're like, okay, yeah, whatever. But, and when I say kids, I mean, like, we were between like 19 and 21. So it's not like we were like little, little kids.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We were old enough to know what was going on. And one night while we were playing with it, the basement had one section of the basement that was just for like laundry and storage. And another section that was, you know, finish couches, TV, chairs. And we used to do the Ouija board in the finish part. And from the other side of the wall behind the door, we started hearing moaning sounds. And they were loud. And there was no disputing it at that point because it was so loud that we couldn't even be like it's coming from outside or, you know, somebody's messing with us. It was dead set behind the door. And then the door started to move. And that's when we realized we were really like probably shouldn't be doing this, but also kind of becoming obsessed with it because we were getting a response. And I remember after a few days of doing it, it would be pitch black down there. And we'd just. just have a couple candles around the board, just enough to see the board. And I remember looking over, and we had a computer, a desktop on the other side of the room from
Starting point is 00:31:04 where we were sitting. And I said, something's over there. And Dan looked over, and this big black mass seemed to walk through the wall from the other side of the room and into the room that we were in and just kind of stand there. And then the computer turned on. And that right there, like, I just got goosebumps as I was talking. telling me the story. I haven't, you know, I can't even, like, put into words how, like, afraid I was in that moment because I was like, I can see how dark this thing is. And I always
Starting point is 00:31:37 was told if it's dark, it's bad. So in my head, I was like, oh, my God, what are we supposed to do? It can, it, it can turn on this computer. So what else can it do? Is it going to throw something? And, you know, that was one of the nights that we were, like, put this thing away and let's get out of here. But that night, I remember going to bed. And I, I was two floors up. It was a two-story house with the finished basement. So I went up to two floors, went to my room, closed the door. I started walking away from the door. The door pops open. And I ran back and shut it. And I remember thinking, if something's standing on the other side of this door, I don't want to see it. So I let the door go. And I backed up, still facing the door, started to open again, like popped open
Starting point is 00:32:22 forcefully. Like you could hear it pop. So I closed it again. And I pulled my hand just slightly away. It popped open and hit my hand. So I slammed it shut the palm of my hand as hard as I could. And it finally stayed after that. And it was like that final like push of me being like absolutely not. It finally stopped. And then we would hear like in the middle of the night somebody walking up the stairs, even though everybody was sleeping, somebody going back down the stairs. We would hear light switches. going up and down in the basement. And it just became too much. And we would see tiny little like specks of light zooming around while we were doing the
Starting point is 00:33:01 Ouija board. And it just became too much for us. And we didn't, this went on for like four or five months before we were like, we don't want to do this anymore. And I actually got rid of the board. I was like, I don't even want it in the house. We have to get rid of it. So fast forward about eight or nine years, my sister's best friend goes.
Starting point is 00:33:22 to a psychic. And the psychic says, I need to talk to your friend. She has an attachment that came from a Ouija board. And they traced it back to when me and my friends were doing the Ouija board in the basement like eight or nine years before. And we remembered a night where my sister was sleeping and said she woke up with a scratch on her back and had a dream about being in a cemetery and she couldn't get out. Well, it turns out she got an attachment that stayed with her. And the psychic, who, mind you, my sister did not go to the psychic. Her friend did. And the psychic asked to see her through her friend because she picked up on this. Told my sister, if you've never seen the movie Insidious, if you've ever seen the movie
Starting point is 00:34:00 insidious, that's about to happen to you if we don't take care of this. So my sister had to go home and say certain prayers and put holy water on all of her mirrors and do everything that the psychic was telling her to do to remove this attachment before something bad was going to happen. And the woman did tell her, like, this is going to be tough and it's going to fight you. and your mother's house has a lot of angels and demons in it. And there was a portal. And the guy that attached himself to you used to be in your closet when you were a kid.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And we found out years and years later, because of the Ouija board, we actually caused an attachment. Wow. Did you feel guilty or what? I did, but I think my friend Dan did more because as I was kind of like, I don't know, man, like, this is getting a little intense. He was kind of like, this is too good. Like there's good ones here too, though. We got to keep it going. We got to see what we can find out.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And then, you know, I was kind of like, yeah, I guess you're right. And it's not all bad. But, you know, also I was the one living there. So like when stuff would happen, he'd be gone. And, you know, I'd tell him the next day. And, but he was telling me the other day when he came to visit from Salem that he thought it was so weird that I was just so chill about it. And I was like, well, that's because I just grew up there.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So like, you know, some of the stuff that he was like, really? I was like, yeah, it happens all the time because you just kind of get used to it. Like eventually the moans and the groans that we would hear were just that. Like I would hear him and be like, here we go. And just kind of like blow it off. Whereas like other people who might be over would go, what the what the hell was that? And I'd be like, yeah, there's a ghost in the other room. And they'd be like, no, seriously. I'd be like, yeah, he's in the other room. And so, yeah, when we found out that that happened to my sister, I told him right away. And he was like, oh my God, like maybe we shouldn't have been doing that. I'm like, I never want to see another
Starting point is 00:35:46 one of those things ever again. Yeah, I get it, man. And you, and you saying that is a very common story on this show. I mean, I, I've never touched a Ouija board because my mom, since, I don't know, since I was like, day one, like, she's always warned me not to touch Ouija boards. I mean, I was, like, I, like, I would run out of a toy aisle in the, in the store if I saw one. I was like, oh, no, sing, you know? I was, I was terrified of them ever since I was a kid. So I could just never messed with them. But a lot of people have messed with them. And I think probably at least 95% of of the people that have been on the show that have talked about it say, don't touch it. Let it alone, you know? And so you're just part of that category of people who is like, yeah, been there,
Starting point is 00:36:34 done that and just here to tell you, don't mess with it. Oh, yeah. And you know, what's funny, too, is the weird part is that we don't even know where the Ouija board came from. A friend of ours mother, I think was cleaning out an attic and was like, hey, I found this in the attic. I don't know where it came from. And I was like, I'll take it, which was like the weirdest thing I could have possibly done at the time. But again, being a kid, I'm like, this is fine. Milton Bradley makes these things. And she was like, I don't think this one. This one's really old looking. And it really was. It was real, it was not like you see now. So I don't know where it came from. But I do know that, you know, I gave it away to somebody. And I don't know whatever happened to it after that.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Maybe the Ouija board itself had attachments or maybe the Ouija board itself was the portal. Yeah, I mean, I would agree to that because the one we did get it out of the house, I did start hearing and seeing a lot less. But I do, you know, there was always activity prior to that. So like it was kind of reduced back to that same old, you know, what it was before. Like our addict door used to pop open on its own. And, you know, we'd, I'd see like, I used to always tell people I see a little girl walking. the upstairs hallway sometimes. And a friend of mine who came to live with us for a little while, he went up there one day, didn't know that I had seen that. And I was two floors down in the
Starting point is 00:37:55 basement. And he came running down the stairs. And I was like, are you okay? And he was like, I was just in your upstairs hallway. And I was like, and you saw a little girl. And he was like, so she's real. And he like kind of freaked out. And I was like, yeah, man. And then as we were hanging out, we were writing some music, actually. He was in my band. And we heard, the upstairs stairs like somebody running down them and a little girl laughing. And at the time, I had a sister who was, you know, young enough to where that wouldn't be weird. Except then all a sudden, the side door opened and my mom and both my sisters walked in and nobody was home. And we just kind of looked at each other like, we heard that, right? It was just, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Now, you've mentioned the movie Insidious. Now, I have never seen the movie Insidious. So when the psychic said that your sister was about to experience what happened. in that movie she didn't take care of things. What does that mean? Because I don't know. It's basically a form of possession. So in the insidious movie, the person's mind kind of gets taken over by the spirit that attached itself to this family or this person. And so she asked my sister questions like, you know, have you noticed that you're getting more aggravated easier? Are you agitated? Are you feeling annoyed? Is something always bothering you? And she said, because that's him. He's very angry. So if you're feeling that, you're feeling his feelings. And we need to remove the attachment.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And as of now, the attachment is removed. And, you know, she did have to battle a little bit with it. But she went back a few times to the psychic. And finally she, you know, told her, you're good. He's gone. And she said she could tell. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Well, I'm glad that she's all cleared out and stuff there. Yeah, I don't watch a whole lot of movies. So I'm glad you filled me in on that. But you mentioned about this shadow that came through the wall. and turned on the computer. Yes. Where did the shadow go, though? Like, it turns on the computer.
Starting point is 00:39:48 At that point, did it disappear? Did it go back through the wall? So not right away. So it was pretty big, like, tall-wise, you know what I mean? And so it came through the wall, and the computer lit up and the monitor came on. And as it was lighting up, we could still see the figure standing there. And then as the screen got to, like, its brightest, quote-unquote, it kind of just, like, disembate. appeared into the air. It didn't walk away. It didn't go up, it didn't go down. It just kind of like
Starting point is 00:40:16 faded into nothing, if that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, that's what I kind of figured it would do. But do you think that by turning on the computer, it had some kind of physical aspect to it? Or do you think that it was similar to the idea of when things are in a room, they suck energy out of batteries, and so it was able to turn on a computer that way? Or do you think it's able to push the button kind of thing? No, I think now, in hindsight, I think it was the second thing you said. I think it was because it was an electronic device and it was able to kind of manipulate it without physically touching it.
Starting point is 00:40:56 But at the same time, the door that led to the other room of the basement did move and like open and close on us a few times when we were playing with the Ouija board. So that's not an electronic device, which made me, you know, think, well, this thing's got it's feeding off the energy from something if it can move a door. But the computer, I think, was just the electronic portion. I got you. And you just mentioned about the door moving and stuff. Now, you also mentioned about how you heard the moaning.
Starting point is 00:41:26 When you said moaning, in my head, I hear almost like a zombie-type moan. Was it something like that, or was it more of like a, I don't know. I mean, could, what did it sound evil, I guess is what I'm trying to say, or more like a dead person, zombie type sound. It's funny that you say zombie because that's what we compared it to was it sounded like something you would see in a zombie movie or hear or not see. But it was deep. Like it wasn't like a high pitch. You couldn't tell if it was like, you know, man, woman, young, old. It was like this deep, like almost like a gurgle.
Starting point is 00:42:05 But it was very like, it sounded like it was coming. from a physical person who was just trying to scare you at like a haunted house. And that night that it was happening, and it happened like multiple nights, but one night specifically was happening like a lot. And I remember my buddy Dan was like, I don't understand what's happening. It's just, it's not stopping. And we couldn't figure out what was going on. So we just left. So we came back at like one or two in the morning. And I remember looking up And at the same time, he said, what's that room right there in that peak of your house? And I said, that's the attic.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And he was like the lights on. And I was like, yeah. And it wasn't on when we left. And nobody's been up there for a few days. So it was just like a night where the activity was real high, I guess. And it went from the basement to the attic apparently. Man, how do you stay in that house after that? I had to walk past the attic to get to my room.
Starting point is 00:43:03 So, you know, it was weird. though because there were times when it was like really freaky and hard to fall asleep. And my one buddy that ended up moving in with us, he slept in the basement. So I remember one night coming down the next morning and he was like, somebody came out of that back room and stood over me. And I was like, what? And the only light switches were at the top of the stairs, which were by the door that led into the other room where all the activity was. And he was like, I didn't know what to do. So I just laid here and waited for the sun to come up. He just stayed awake the whole night.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Yeah. He laid there and just waited. And it didn't really disappear or fade away even into the early morning. Like the sun started to rise and he could still see it clear as day. Jeez. Jeez. Did he move out? Eventually.
Starting point is 00:43:51 He stayed with us for, I think, just that summer. And maybe leading into the fall. But he said he used to see stuff and hear stuff to the point where he found himself trying to make himself more comfortable by like if he saw somebody, walk out of that room, he would be like, what's up? And just like try to talk out loud to like ease the tension. And he said it did help him. And it seemed to like, it once, I don't know if they care, but once they realized he wasn't bothered, it kind of like slowed down for him. That's interesting. You know, that's something that I never really, I never really think I would have thought to do. I mean, just to talk and be like, yo, what's up? Like, I've been waiting for you. You know, right? You know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:44:31 like oh you thought you're going to catch me off guard bro i've been we i've been here and i've been waiting you know what's right that's that's creative this period in our lives too was so like impactful for um you know my buddy who used to do it with me all the time he actually has the uh what's the piece called that goes with the Ouija board i never remember the name of it the planchette sure um he's got that tattooed on his hand oh boy yeah yeah because it made such an impact on on him and like he was so like amazed that i lived in a house where these things happened. So he got it tattooed on his hand. Yeah, a good friend of ours who owns a tattoo company in this area actually did it for him not too long ago. And it's really beautiful. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:12 he sent me a picture of it. And he actually, when I met up with him, like I said, he moved to Salem, which is even like a cooler twist to the story because, I mean, you think of Salem. You think of like spookiness and like, you know, all that. But he came home and visited and he's like, can we go back to the basement? And I was like, I don't think you want to. to do that. What a freak. He was just begging for it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And then he sent me a picture of a Ouija board that he found and I was like, don't do it. Wow. All right. One more question about this story. And you mentioned how you would get spirit names coming through. Do you remember any of the spirit names? And if you do, do you feel comfortable saying them?
Starting point is 00:45:57 I remember one that we think was a good one. And I do remember, he remembered the bad one and reminded me. And I don't want to say that one because I don't want to start getting activity at my new place and then have to be like, hey, thanks a lot, Tony. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But I remember he used to talk to one all the time. And I believe it said its name was Amanda and that it was kind of like a guardian angel for him specifically.
Starting point is 00:46:25 So that one only came through when he was around because once people found out that like we were getting activity, and stuff, it became like, can we come over and play at the Ouija board? And then like other people would come and I had to like, no, no, not tonight. But like me and him did it all the time. And that was the one that always came through when he was around. Okay. Gotcha. So it wasn't anything like a Zasiel or something like that. No, no, nothing like that. There was a strange name that came through a few times. I mean, I guess it's not strange, but maybe it just gives me the goosebumps because I remember like it being a negative thing. But other than that, like I remember him saying like he would go home and feel like he wasn't alone for the rest of the night. So I don't know if something
Starting point is 00:47:09 was following him. But if it was, it was saying that it was good and it was, you know, there to help him. So. Okay. Well, that's interesting stuff, man. Now, do you have anything that has happened since the Ouija board was thrown out? Once we got rid of it, I did have some weird things happen at other places that I've lived. So I remember seeing in my apartment after that, I was watching TV and there was a long hallway. And I remember looking down the hallway and seeing a white mist that just came down the hallway like across the ceiling. It wasn't a body.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It was like kind of almost in a straight line. but it was like zigzagging like a snake. And it came across the ceiling. And there was actually a part in the ceiling that dipped down to separate the rooms. And it actually dipped under that and came back up and went across the ceiling and out. And that was like a couple of years after I hadn't touched that thing. So I don't know what that was all about. And I did see and hear a few things at the place that I live now, but it doesn't feel bad.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You know, sitting on the couch again. I could see down the hallway and I've seen something walk out of the bedroom and into the bathroom. I've seen something walk out of my son's room and into the bathroom or into my bedroom and it just doesn't feel bad so it never freaked me out. I just kind of look and I'm like, I definitely saw something and then I just kind of let it go. Okay. So this thing or whatever it is that's walking out of rooms, do you attribute it to at all the mist that you were seeing or do you think those are two separate things. Well, the mist was white, and I'm kind of seeing what I'm seeing here is kind of like a grayish, but I've always assumed that white was a good thing. So like when I
Starting point is 00:49:03 saw that, it didn't freak me out. It was more so amazing to me because I watched it for like 30 seconds. So I couldn't even say that like, oh, my mind's playing tricks on me for like for half a minute. Like, no, that's definitely not my mind because I watch it come down a long hallway until it went out basically outside. And whatever this is, it's very rarely seen, but it's usually when I'm alone. And again, I'm super open to paranormal activity and experiences. And I think I'm kind of sensitive to it over the years from making myself so open to it. So it never happens when anybody else is around.
Starting point is 00:49:38 It's always when I'm here by myself. And I'm like, oh, just saw whoever that is walking from room to room again. And is it just a shadow figure? Is there like a, there's a body? Okay. It's a full body apparition, yeah. Okay. And is it something that you see square on when you're looking, or is it like out of the
Starting point is 00:49:56 corner of the eye kind of situation? It's always peripherals. It's never straight on, at least here. I've seen them straight on before, but not here. Here it's always like, you know, just a quick like sneak by, go into this room now. And I'm like, oh, saw it again. Yeah. And that's something that I've had in my previous home when we had an apartment
Starting point is 00:50:17 before we bought this house. It was something that I would always see something walking from my bedroom into the bathroom or bathroom into the bedroom. It was an apartment complex. And we lived on the third floor. And I just, I would stare down the hallway, waiting and nothing, nothing, nothing. But I start watching TV out of the corner of my eye. I would see it.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Or I would actually see it's reflection. It was like, it was like a reflection because we had. So my wife, before kids, before podcasting, she was like a big-time actress. I mean, she did, she lead role in over 30 productions. I mean, big time. And so she had framed some of the posters for these plays, and they were in our hallway. And I would see in the glass of the frames, whatever was walking between the rooms, a reflection. And I'm like, freak, man, I know I'm seeing this, you know, but it would only happen, you know, to me.
Starting point is 00:51:26 There was times that she would be home and all that stuff, but she would never see what I would see. It was just me seeing it. And, you know, I don't think I was being targeted or anything. I just, I don't know. I just, I would see it. And it would freak me out sometimes. You know, you just reminded me of something else that happened in the basement when you said the pictures on the wall. behind the computer desk, there was a picture that my dad had hung up at the time of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And it was right behind the computer, but it was like, let's say five feet behind you. Well, one day I was sitting there on a computer and it hit me in the back. And I don't know how a picture could move five feet straight. Like it didn't go down to the ground. It didn't hit the ground and then hit my feet. It hit me in the back. And I was like three or four feet away from it in the computer chair. So it would have had to come off the wall and drift three to four feet toward me to hit me square in the back.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And I just don't under, I can't wrap my hat around. And there was no like, there was glass block windows. So nobody can say there was a breeze. And even if there was, is a breeze going to carry a picture four feet straight? Like, it was just a really weird moment. And I was down there completely alone. And I remember I turned around and like I thought somebody had tapped me on the back. And I turned around and I looked and nobody was down there.
Starting point is 00:52:44 and I looked at the ground and the picture was laying there. And I was like, how did that get over here? Do you get the sense that that was a violent encounter? It freaked me out specifically for the reason that it was a picture of Jesus. And that's when I was like, is something trying to be like, don't hang this up. So I got up and put it right back up. But I never, that never happened again. It was one time.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And, you know, I'm spiritual, fairly religious. I have a cross tattooed on my right shoulder. I always have a cross around my neck. And I pray. And that was one time that that crossed my mind of, was that like trying to get my attention or was that something more? And like looking back, I really don't know because it never happened again. And I put it right back up where it was.
Starting point is 00:53:30 That's interesting. Yeah. Because it's a picture of Jesus, I can totally see where you're coming from that. It's just like, next thing you know, you're expecting to see like crucifixes flying off walls and things like that. Yeah, I mean, and me being the big horror movie guy that I am and always have been, my mind immediately goes there. So I'm like, oh my God, like, if it was a picture of like anything else, I probably would have just been like, huh, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But because it was that, I was like, oh, my God. Literally, oh, my God. That's one of those times where you can be like, Jesus Christ, and you mean it, you know? That's exactly. But you know, my grandmother's house always had activity too. It was just a thing. Like we had a running joke because I lived with her for a while that we had it. We used to call it the bread ghost because we'd wake up in the morning and a loaf of bread
Starting point is 00:54:22 would be in the middle of the kitchen for no reason on the floor. And we used to say the bread ghost came last night and he threw the bread on the floor again. Wow. It's interesting because it's like some of these experiences people have are just kind of quirky more than anything, you know? Yes. And that one, you know, nothing at her house really freaked us out. It was just like, you know, random stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And we kind of cracked jokes about it. And we used to say it was like a family member trying to get our attention or something because my cousin had passed away. And we were like, oh, maybe Ricky's just letting us know that he visited last night. And he didn't know what else to do. So we slapped the bread across the room. Maybe. You never know. Listen, before I forget and before I don't want to forget to have you shout out your content again.
Starting point is 00:55:10 but I want to revisit the little girl you mentioned briefly. You said that this little girl was in the house before the Ouija board playing and all that stuff. Other people have seen it. You've seen it. What's the story there, though? I mean, do you know the story? I mean, was there a little girl that died in the house before you guys or what? As far as we know, no, because we did try and look into some of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:36 So I don't really know. and like maybe now knowing what I know, I know that there could be, I don't know what to call them shapeshifters, I guess. Is that the proper term? I don't even know. But it was, that one was really scary to me. So that would really freak me out to the point where when I would come around the corner where I would normally see her, I started closing my eyes and just walking past to get to my room because I didn't want any part of that, but I had to get to my room somehow. and that the hallway light would always burn out. Every time you put a new light bulb in, I mean, days, it wouldn't work. And for whatever reason, it's still kind of like that because my mom still lives in that house.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And so I would come around that corner. It was a long stretch of hallway. You'd walk past the attic and you would turn left and there would be the three bedrooms and the half bath. And she was right there. Like, maybe not every time, but enough times for me to be like, all right, I'm going to turn the corner, close my eyes. and I would put my hand on the wall on the left to slide down the wall so I knew when I got to my room and I would go in and close the door and flip the light on before I open my edge. And so she was typically at the same spot all the time?
Starting point is 00:56:45 Yes, she would be standing in between my room, my sister's room, and in between those rooms was the door to the bathroom. So basically in the opening of the bathroom. Okay. Maybe it was some kind of residual energy, you know. Like I told you before we started recording, I don't pretend to know anything. I just talk to people who have experiences. but maybe it was some kind of residual energy from somebody that, I don't know. But was she always wearing the same thing? And what was she wearing?
Starting point is 00:57:14 Honestly, this is going to sound really cliche, but she reminded me of the girl from the ring. If you've ever, I know you don't watch a lot of movies. I've watched that. I have watched, yes. Yeah, kind of like that, but smaller. She was younger. And come to find out, the psychic told my sister about my mom's house that there's a portal in the backyard that's being blocked right now by a tree. And if that tree ever comes down,
Starting point is 00:57:38 there's going to be more entities and attachments to that house because right now the tree is blocking them from getting fully in. Oh, man, that's interesting. Yeah. And we like, you know, of course, for years, my mom was like, we're cutting that. We're trimming that. That's got to come down. And now it's like, yeah, maybe we'll just leave it along. Yeah, we'll just leave it there. Yeah. So this tree, I mean, do you, do you have a, sense as to when and why it was placed there? Do you think that somebody placed there on purpose for that reason? Or do you think it's just so happened to be placed there? I think it's dumb luck. I think that it just got so big and it just hangs down over the right spot. But I think that
Starting point is 00:58:15 maybe that's why there already is so many entities in the house because there's good and bad. Basically, they were told that there's angels and demons. And it's, I don't know, that just knowing that kind of freaks me out because it's like, well, that makes sense because now it doesn't matter what happened in the house because there's a portal that's not too far away. Yep, that makes total sense. It's, ah, man, freaking portals, man. Right. Like the Ouija board, the house, uh, seems like it's a portal hotspot, you know? Yeah, and I think it was just a random thing. I don't think anything was planned or anything, you know, went that way. It just so happened to be. Interesting. Well, listen, before we roll out of here, let's talk about you again real quick. Uh,
Starting point is 00:58:59 You're Robbie Vegas professional wrestler. Where can people find the podcast and the music? And even, shoot, if they want to come see you perform, where can they do that, wrestling-wise? Well, so to check out the podcast, it's A-B-A-O-Pod on every form of social media. So just A-B-A-O-Pod, you can follow us. And I'm really interactive and I do a lot of updates and I'll run polls. And we really try to, like, have fun with our listeners and give them a reason to, like, come and hang out. As far as me, Robbie underscore Vegas underscore official on Instagram, and I post all kinds of
Starting point is 00:59:39 stuff as far as not only the podcast, but I'll post flyers when I have upcoming shows. And I do travel with wrestling, so you never know where I'm going to pop up, you know, through Canada, New York, Ohio, Indiana, Vermont, Michigan, doesn't matter. I'll pop up wherever. So I'll always be sharing those. And then my music is on Apple, Spotify, Amazon music. Google Play. Robbie Vegas. The EP is called Angels and Demons. And of course, I have a single out called This Way, and I will be adding more music to that as well.
Starting point is 01:00:10 But yeah, check me out on all those platforms and subscribe to my podcast. If you're into horror, paranormal, heavy metal, rock and roll, professional wrestling, we have something for everyone. And I really appreciate you having me on, man, because I'm a fan of your show. That's awesome, man. Well, I'm glad you were here. And it was fun talking about all the stuff you've been through, man. For me, at least.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I don't know for you, but for me, it was great. You know, I got goosebumps a few times. I was like, man, you're reminding me of stuff I haven't thought about in years. Perfect. Oh, man. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. If you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends.
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