The Confessionals - RELOADED | 399: Shift Your Paradigm | Destiny Lab

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

In Episode 399: Shift Your Paradigm, we are joined by Ark from Destiny Lab, a hip-hop group whose music focuses on creepy cryptids, government conspiracies, dystopian futures, and more - and all from a Biblical perspective. Ark and I have been in contact over the years, and have finally recorded a podcast episode together. Our conversation dives into monsters of the woods, transhumanism and the future of the human race, and even Ark’s background in Hollywood and what compelled him to eventually leave that industry.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - Bigfoot ft. Tony MerkelYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

I guess it's time to go back in time. Are you telling me you built a time machine? Out of a Dolion? Time is but a stubborn illusion. I have a lot of memories of the past. People are time traveling within themselves. Time travel is possible. Merkel.

Media. This was all circulating around the base. that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it. He'd up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast.

And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Closer, got closer, got closer, got closer, when he got about 15 yards away from me, blow this head off. I feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two small gray entities pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air.

Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm saying. seeing a monster. Okay, I reload it. Yeah. Welcome to the show, everybody listening to The Confessionals. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. Do a crazy wild experience you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me

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All right, let's get to this week's show, and we have a great one coming up here. We have Ark from Destiny Lab. Now, Destiny Lab is a hip-hop group that formed a while ago. They create some awesome music geared towards what we talk about in the show. Bigfoot, Nephilim, aliens, you know, government conspiracies. They make that kind of music. And me and Arc have known each other for quite some time now. We just never really connected for the podcast.

until now. So I really hope you guys enjoy this conversation I had with him and some of the music that we played. And if you could, please go check out his YouTube channel as well, Destiny Lab and hit subscribe. Help them get to the 20,000 subscriber mark. That would be awesome, friends. Thanks a lot. And let's get to it. All right. Today we got Arc on the show from Destiny Lab. Arc. What's going on, man? What's up, man? It's great to finally be here. Yeah, man. It's been a long time coming. And listen, everybody, that's not to be confused with destiny's child, okay? Because one side is a poppy Satanist and the other side is a rapy Jesus man. So we're not trying to confuse people.

It's Destiny Lab, not Destiny's Child. Trust me. So, Arkman, listen, let me tell you something. I stumbled across your music years ago, years ago, back like when I first started podcasting. and I think it was actually, if I remember correctly, you and your brother had a podcast

or maybe you still do have a podcast and... Yeah, that's kind of been on hold a little bit, but yeah, we do have a podcast that we did call it. It was the truth. Yeah, it was part of a,

like some kind of network or something, right? Yeah, we were on the Christian Fringe radio network and, I don't know, a couple others also, uh, what were Raiders Radio Network or something like that? And so we were, we were on a few, but yeah, kind of mostly French underground Christian topics, yeah. Yeah, and so, like, I was listening to somebody else's show.

I don't know if it was Heiser or somebody. I was listening to somebody's show. And, like, because I was listening on some network that I didn't know I was on, I think it was on iTunes, it just auto played you guys next. And I didn't know it. And I was like, is this the same show? What the heck is going on? And I hear you guys talking and you're talking about the music.

and I'm just like, wait, what? Like, let me check these guys out. And, like, that's how I found you guys. I was driving my truck, you know, just turn the wheel, pushing pedals and listening to you and your brother talk about deep stuff, man. And from that point, I was like, I was a fan of you guys. Nice, nice. Yeah, it's a small world for sure, especially in this kind of, uh, these topics that we're into.

Yeah, for sure. And also, I mean, I was driving my truck when I heard my man arc on Clyde Lewis. like, oh, snap, now we've gone big time. Yeah, no, man, that was awesome. We've had a few good opportunities here recently. It was on Sam Tripoli's tinfoil hat where we have another podcast, another appearance going here soon coming back on the podcast. So that should be cool.

Yeah, yeah, I love Sam the death. He's a good dude. And so, I mean, you guys made your rounds. A lot of people have known who you are throughout the years. we're going to get into some interesting topics. I feel like we're going to jump around a little bit, but before we go too far into things, let the people know about the music,

where they can find it, where they can find you, promote whatever you want, man. Okay, yeah, no problem, thanks. The music and everything about us can be found just at destinylab.com. So it's pretty easy to look up. And then all of our social media is basically

YouTube forward slash Destiny Lab, you know, Facebook, forward slash Desti Lab and so on. So you can find all our social media that way. But our music is all basically based about talking about kind of underground fringe subjects, specifically like the fallen angels and the nephalum, and how that ties into the alien deception, how that ties into the cult and the secret societies, the New Age movement, transhumanism.

We kind of connect the dots of all these subjects with music. And we've come out with, we started back in the early 2000s and officially formed testing lab, you know, through a long journey of my own that we can, we can get into as well. But, but yeah, it's, I felt sort of convicted because of my own journey to present this in a way that would be kind of a link in the chain for people to investigate themselves, you know, when I wanted to inspire people, you know, because you try to talk to people about these subjects and a lot of times they won't listen. But if you can sometimes get them to listen to a three-minute song,

and like, oh, that's kind of cool. Let me investigate that a little bit more. So that's always been kind of our goal is to take these subjects. And eventually our goal is to hopefully lead people to a solution through Christ and know that through Christ we have power over the enemy, power over these deceptions and the dark forces, and using the full armor of God that we can confront and remove these things if necessary. So that's kind of the goal of our music.

That's awesome, man. Yeah, and it's pretty apparent when people listen to the songs and the lyrics and stuff that you guys definitely go deep on the fringe stuff. And you're not shy about it either. No, we don't pull punches. No, not at all. So listen, we're going to get into your personal experiences that maybe led you into doing this type of music and all that kind of stuff. but before we hit record, you and I were about to embark on possibly a conversation that I wanted to at least record if it developed into anything. So I don't know where this is going to go,

but I do got to ask you, as somebody who's been in the music scene for a long time, I mean, you've been doing this for a long time. You've seen the progression, the evolution of hip-hop in the world, how it's viewed, how it's accepted, the different types of sounds that come out of hip hop, but also the artists in hip hop and their integration into higher-tiered levels of society. Put that way. At one time, if you were a rapper, you were, you weren't looked at at the same level as other musicians. Now, if you're a rapper and you're, you know, a platinum artist or whatever, you're ushered into a whole other realm of existence. in this world that there's a lot of people discussing Travis Scott right now that maybe he was also

part of some kind of ushering of what was it like last week or two weeks ago when the whole thing happened at his concert people were talking about it being a ritual sacrifice and and those kind of things and before you go into whatever you want to say I will say to the audience that if you think it's silliness if you think it's people reading into things you have looked into things enough to say to have to have a response like that it's okay if you don't want to believe it if you want to question it but if you think it's silly that it's just there's a bunch of nonsense uh i would say that you you literally haven't looked into it and that's why you you feel comfortable saying that like it's just nothing at like on the silliness level um i've talked to

recently i talked to a woman who is working she's been working in hollywood would. She's been on multiple shows. She's working on an NBC, a very big NBC show now. And she was revealing to me how over the last year, she has had almost like a veil lifted over her eyes. And she sees the industry for what it is. And she started seeing the reality that she's surrounded by a bunch of demonically possessed people. People have seen demons climbing walls in studios where they're shooting film and all these crazy things. And she's not the only one. All these, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's a number of people who are waking up within the Hollywood industry and realizing how, how deep, dark and satanic it is or has become at least.

And to the point now where she's built her entire career off Hollywood and off all this stuff. And early next year, she's actually planning her exit and she's, and she's leaving. She's, she's putting her career behind her. And, uh, and, and, uh, and. And so, like, like, I've, I've looked into these things. I've talked to people who are on the inside, and I understand what is going on. I may not understand the intricacy of it where, like, the fine details, but the general idea of what's going on, I understand and I 100% fully believe. So with that, I'll hand it over to you. What are your thoughts on Travis Scott in the industry today? Well, the whole Travis Scott thing, you know, it's hard to say there. I mean, you know that a lot of these guys are definitely deeply involved in the occult. Some of them openly say that they've sold their souls, the devil. You know, this would be kind of kind of like a cool thing to talk about Lucifer and Satan,

all this stuff just openly. You know, it's become externalized to the point where there are no secrets, you know, secret societies, the occult used to be kind of hidden type stuff. Now it's like the Black Awakening as my, my. friend Russ Desdard, the great Russ Desdzar, who recently passed away, used to call it. And, you know, even Helena Blaski,

who was a cult, you know, Luciferian talked about the, or not, it actually wasn't her, it was Alice Bailey, talked about the the, the, uh, externalization of the hierarchy. And actually, they both talked about it, you know,

and that this idea of the externalizing, these dark forces, or there would be a time that this stuff would be externalized to such a point that everyone would see it. and it's gotten a point where kids are just wearing these symbols on their t-shirts. We see it everywhere to the point we're numb to it. We've become dumbed down to this evil forces and just see it as mundane. And that kind of gives people, instead of scaring kids off, you know, like back when I was a kid, there was a few people, you know, like out Marilyn Manson, you know, and Kiss, you know,

people that were just kind of like, I guess playing the part, but you didn't necessarily know are these people really evil or not? But now it's like they're openly saying, yeah, we're evil. We drink blood. We do all these things. You know, so it's really kind of gotten to another level to where there's really no doubt, really, if you investigate these things and it doesn't take much to investigate to see. And because it's coming straight from the horse's mouth.

And, you know, kind of my history a little bit is kind of going back to the Hollywood thing. You know, I grew up in a Christian home. I always had an issue with a paramil normal. And I grew up in a church. I grew up in a Christian church, but we did Halloween and haunted houses every year that were super creepy and super scary. But at the whole end of it was the idea that, yes, we have power over these things. And we have actually nothing to fear through Christ, through the Holy Spirit,

that we can overcome and expose these deceptions. And not only that, but the idea that Satan appears. as something evil isn't always the case. More often sometimes Satan appear as an angel of light. And so I kind of always had this idea of my mind of wanting to expose these things. And so I think there's definitely connections there. And at the age of about 13, my brother and I discovered a satanic ritual site. And we actually talk about that in our podcast, I have a whole episode on it.

But we discovered a satanic ritual site, which had a dead cats that had just recently killed the night before because this was literally somewhere where we drove every day from our house. It was only about a half mile from our house. And it was the day before Easter when this happened. And I was about 13, 14. And we discovered these dead cats and they're all slid open. They had ropes around their neck. And we went down in this area where there's this canal that opens up into this giant. hole, which is like a siphon tube, and kids would go there and drink and hang out or whatever.

Well, we found this like upside down altar with another cat, a third cat duct tape to this upside down cross and altar and all these candles and writings that we're talking about. This is the porthole to hell. All this creepy stuff. We actually called the sheriff. He came out and took pictures and took all this stuff as his evidence. But long story short, this basically made me realize that this stuff was really. real, you know, firsthand knowledge that even in small towns, people are into this stuff.

People are killing animals, you know, doing these sacrifices. So you know that on a larger level, it's also happening, you know. But at the same time, like I said, I was kind of also saw that this was presented in a light way as well, you know, through new age concepts. You know, I got deep into, because I like the. the special effects and the makeup and all that kind of stuff when we're doing these haunted houses, I actually became a special effects makeup artist.

And at the age of 18, I moved from a very small town to Hollywood. And so I actually lived in Hollywood for about three years. And during that time, I experienced some very strange things. And I think it was all part of my journey that God allowed me to go through, which is why I call my group Destiny Lab, because I think it was all kind of destined to happen.

But the first movie I worked on was a movie called The Lawnmore Man. I don't know if you've seen that. You seen The Lawnmore Man? No. I mean, I haven't seen Blockbuster Movies, period. So I have no idea. Okay. Well, The Lawmore Man was specifically about a guy who uploaded, they used technology to basically

take a guy who was mentally challenged, let's say, and turn him into a mega god through technology. and that this scientist hooked up like a virtual reality machine to this guy. He started seeing these all chemical symbols flash in front of his eyes, and he became a god through technology and then, you know, wanted to present himself and take over the world type of thing. And this introduced me the whole idea of transhumanism, which is really weird to me. And then at the same time, I was kind of having my own prodigal son journey down there in California, you know, doing some things that I maybe shouldn't have.

and and I just saw the darkness that was down there and I had two within those years that I was there, I had two cars stolen. I had my apartment broken into and I was like, I have to get out of here before I get sucked in, you know, so I actually moved from there back up to Oregon and started my own latex mask making company and started doing that just through like Fangoria magazine and things like that. So, but anyway. Is that how, is that how? You came up with some of these costumes in your music videos? Yeah, kind of. Yeah, I make to art to this day.

I make like metal art, like ray guns, robots and stuff like that out of junk metal art. And I also full-time professionally build and paint statues, professional or sculpture and collectible statues. And most of them are kind of geared toward Greek mythology and kind of Frank Frisetta-type artwork, that kind of stuff. I work with a company that kind of makes these things and had a collaboration with Frank Vizetta. So this is kind of the art that I do on the side still for this day, which I just do from home now. But one of the things I want to say is, you know, the thing about scary things, and I think there's a lot of Christians who are against the idea of Halloween or the idea that we would have a haunted house. How dare somebody do that? And I get it because there is a lot of evil that's overt like that, that looks dark like that.

that looks dark like that. But at the same time, I don't believe things that are scary are evil. Because if that is the case, you just have to look at God's creations, look at any deep sea creature, look at the dinosaurs, look at bugs,

look at the creatures that God has created. Humans. Yeah, I mean, there's some scary stuff out there, you know, much more scary than anything that someone's going to make

in a haunted house or in a movie. So I don't think that scary things are evil. That doesn't make any sense to me. So I think we can still use scary things and do scary things, you know, and not be necessarily sinful in a way. It has to do with your, you know, your intention of what you're trying to present here. And our intention was to overcome these things and to also say that, you know, Satan also counterfeits as an angel of light, like the Bible says. And this kind of goes back to the alien deception of what

we talk about in our music, that, you know, many people that I got into studying, when I got into studying the occult and the new age. I started going to Grateful Dead concerts. I was into psychedelics. I was doing a lot of weird stuff through my prodigal son journey, let's say. And I eventually came to the conclusion that all of these people who are channeling entities were in touch with interdimensional beings of some sort usually come to the exact same conclusion within a nutshell, what was in a nutshell, the original sin of the

serpent in the garden. So you go back to the original sins in the garden. And when the serpent deceived he said, if you eat of this fruit, ye shall be as gods. And the idea that man can become their own God, I started seeing as the universal theme between every secret society, every fallen belief system, every channeled message, every new age message that was out there. And then also all this music that is also presenting the same thing. If you're going to get saved, you've got to save yourself. You've got to look within. This also ties right into transhumanism,

that we can use technology to evolve and ascend. And just the idea of evolution in itself is a deception that was a foundational thing put in our world to set the stage for things like the alien deception. Because without evolution, you can't have alien, the idea that there's aliens out there, you know, and that they're being just evolving out of nothing. And that, of course, where there's water, there's life and all these things that people believe. I think that stuff's hogwash. I think that God is a creator.

And I think that all these things are interdimensional type deceptions. That's not to say that they can also come in a physical form in some way. But I think that they have many costumes. and many deceptions that they pose as based upon the belief system of the individual. And even in things like Bigfoot, most people into Bigfoot are very, you know, just searching for the answers of truth. You know, is there an ape-like creature in our hidden out there? But some people get deep into it, you'll find that they're trying to channel them.

You know, they're trying to actually do these sort of occult-like things with these entities, you know, or create orbs, you know, or through their intention, make UFOs appear, you know, like Stephen Greer is doing with his groups. So all these things kind of come back to the same idea that, you know, through occult, magical ritual practices, channeling these entities, working these entities, people think that they can ascend and become their own gods. And whether that's through transhumanism, occult ritual, you know, new. age things or just, you know, everyday things like the law of attraction that people are getting into has become very popular. These things are all kind of have, I believe, the same foundation, which is the original sin. So sorry I rambled on there a little bit, but that's, I want to kind

connect some of those dots there. No, that's fine, man. I mean, people are here to hear thought and, you know, people's journeys through life. And it sounds like the, I was kind of surprised. actually because I didn't know you you had a background in Hollywood when I said what I said earlier. And what you kind of experience is kind of what she's experiencing now. So it's very similar in that sense. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's definitely gotten worse. You know, that was back in the early 90s. So I can just imagine this like now. Oh, yeah. I'm sure it's gotten tenfold. I mean, it's only, evil only expands, right? No doubt. So, listen, I, I would like to play a song for the audience here.

And I might be wrong in this, but I feel like the song, Shift Your Paradigm might be a fun little song to do since we just got done having this little bit of a conversation. What do you think? Absolutely. Yeah, that would be good. That's our latest album just came out in October 2020, which is our fourth album, which is called Shift Your Paradigms. So this is the, I guess, the main song to that album.

So, perfect. Dawkins told the crowd they should ridicule religious people. Let me quote him. He says, mock them, ridicule them in public. Their beliefs are insane. Therefore, they should be ridiculed with contempt. Years in the future this may serve as a reminder. Like a verbal time capsule, honor your treasure meant for the minds that denied in the past,

ignoring the signs every time that we ask you to listen. You dismissed us consistently, and now you're living out prophecy. First and witness to the times and the miseries. No denying all the signs and conspiracies. Report a heart down and urged you to listen. Enclored you to think, to make the right decision. Laughing aside, you displayed the devil's advocate. Every time you heard the truth, you turn the opposite.

Rejected anything that stood against your politics. Convent yourself that you were good by thinking positive. Always the optimist. I used to confident the ignorance is bliss during the apocalypse. Back dab in the middle of the storyline Slap in your face Shifting your chiroch in your mind For the memories you're blocked out

Information that you knew is true but locked out Conversations that you wish could be repeated As we're living in denial But now you do anything to understand The Bible memories reminders Remain all that you wish you were Anything to understand the Bible Grave yards crumbling catacrake

Andes and pestilence Epidemics and afflictions Malevolence No actions and really full cemeteries Catastrophies on a politics emotional convince yourself with willing ignorance way too late no excuse could ever save face and now you're living in a world without a safe slap in your face shift in your paradigm switch in your mind for the memories you're blocked out the information that you knew is

true but lachians that you wish could be rip we're living and deny what if you're wrong well what if i'm wrong i mean anybody could be wrong what if you're wrong about the great jujo at the bottom of the sea well there's that one i think that was an awesome song and uh listen and folks listen if you're listening to that song you got to watch the video on youtube while you were listening to it it kind of just really draws the whole picture out as to what you guys are talking about in your music yeah yeah no doubt the visuals make a big impact we've got dozens and dozens of videos on our uh our youtube page um that are really good for uh bringing the pieces of the puzzle together when did you start uh the whole music

thing for you guys. I mean, this is just something that you did your whole life? Yeah, you know, that goes back to my, uh, my Christian upbringing in our church. When I was about 12 or 13, we got a new pastor and this guy came from a big city and brought his, his kids with him. And his son was really deep into break dancing and hip hop. I didn't even, from a small town where I was from, I'd never even heard of this stuff. And this was in, you know, early 80s. So, um, so I got deep into. listening to hip hop, break dancing. This guy taught me how to do all the break dancing. I formed my own break dancing group in grade school. So I was just all into this stuff early on when I

got introduced to it. And I never necessarily wanted to be a rapper, but I would memorize rap songs and my favorite groups I liked. And me and my friends would just, you know, make rap music for fun. And it seemed like everywhere I moved, like when I moved down to California, I met a guy at my makeup school that was really new rap music. So we did rap music for fun. and then when I moved up to Portland, that's where I met genetics. And we made rap music for many years that was just more just mainstream style. And then we officially formed Desting Lab. I came to him and like I said, the early 2000s said, man, I feel convicted through some things I've been through to make some hip-hop music,

but talk about some different subjects here. So that's kind of how it started. Yeah. I mean, it's awesome. And I know who you're talking about with genetics. I think him and I have talked over the years on and off as well. Sure. Yeah.

But, you know, it's really cool to hear kind of like the how this all started for you. And it's really kind of like what we talk about on the show where people's experiences in life really help mold them and shape them on how they view the world around them. And so it's really similar with you in the sense of how you got involved in the music, how you got involved in the type of music you got involved in and how you're doing this stuff. and you know you you kind of hit on tons of different topics throughout your music uh anything from like you said transhumanism to uh aliens to you know nephalum uh at what point did you kind of come across and dive deep into the idea of the nephalum i mean what was there is was there a moment because

i know for me it was simply i was driving my truck and i stumbled across uh i think it was either Heiser or Steve Quill. Now, I know it's two very extreme differences in how they communicate or that I just can't remember, but it was around that time I found them both. And it just kind of set me off on this like, wait, what? You know, because I, you know, growing up in church, you know, let's talk about the Nephlin the day. Nobody ever did that, you know? Yeah. And so like, when did that come across your desk? Well, amazingly, I actually went to a church that did talk about the angelic conflict. Now, they didn't go deep into the Nephilim in the book of Enoch, so to speak, but they did talk about the angelic conflict that happened before the flood and that this was

one of the main things going on within the spiritual realm was the fallen angels against the real angels and that these fallen angels were deceivers. And because they were in heaven, they had access to heavenly things that now that they use to deceive people and they masquerade as angels of light, they were once angels in heaven. You know, so we forget that Lucifer was once the most beautiful angel, according to the word of God. So we got to go back to, I guess, what the real deception is, you know, and that goes back to this mimicry, this counterfeit of things that are good.

Satan doesn't really create anything. He just takes the things of God and inverts them to the opposite. Instead of the glorifying God, they give glory to his self. And so, but a lot of the ideas sometimes. like within the new age, you're actually very positive, you know, being kind to people, you know, live in the moment, you know, there's a lot of good things, you know, think positive, you know, there's really good things to come from it. But, you know, even meditation and things like that aren't necessarily evil. But it's, it's where these, the carrot on the stick that leads

to these doorways, you know, and draws people deeper. And then they want to go to take DMT. And then, you know, that kind of wears off. And the way I want to go deep. and so they get a shaman and then that doesn't go deep enough. You know, eventually a lot of these people, some people have just kind of gone off the deep end a little bit. So, yeah, sorry, I forgot the original questionnaire. I do that sometimes. It's fine.

I was just asking about how you got involved in like the idea of the Nephilim because, I mean, it's one of those times where you can really kind of go go off and dive into other books and and all that kind of stuff. But, I mean, what you just said about, you know, these other New Age faiths and stuff like that, do you think that within these practices that people have that they can, they can access things that maybe they should not have access to as far as like the idea of the fallen angels teaching man how to do things that we were never meant to know how to do? Do you think that people who are pursuing different types of practices, do you think

they can actually take themselves to other locations and whether it's, you know, through their spirit, soul or, you know, or what, their consciousness. Do you think that people are able to actually access other places that are actually real places through these different practices? And that's why it's so enticing for people to do or, you know, back to the idea that you said, man wants to be God, you know, it's not trying to become your own God. Yeah, definitely. People are searching for signs and wonders. They want they want something that will prove it, you know, whether that is a ghost or something doing a seance that moves something in the room, whatever it may be. It starts at one point, but then people, like I said, get drawn deeper and deeper. They want some sort of

proof. And that's kind of what DMT promises. A lot of people that take DMT or ayahuasca, they claim that they literally go, literally go to this realm. Now, whether people are literally going to another realm or being manipulated through their mind or dreaming process or pineal gland, whatever that may be that the enemy has access to act to manipulate. You kind of see the same thing within alien deceptions that you see within the ayahuasca and the dmte or transinduced meditation. Some of these things all kind of have the same type of process. You don't necessarily need drugs to get there.

People do it through drumming, twirling, chanting, breathing exercises can reach these same realms, sometimes, so to speak. So whether they're real or not, I'm not sure, but I do believe that people do get cause and effect. Magic works. The reason people use it is because it works, but it leads to a, there's a price to be paid in the end, you know, and you're messing with things that are tricking you. They're deceiving you. They aren't on your side, no matter how much you believe that, where they appear as ascended master or a spirit guide and try to be something good. In the end, their whole goal is to lead you to usually a lot of times killing yourself.

If you look at a lot of these groups like Heaven's Gate and some of these Jim Jones cult, those groups taught that you can ascend. You can become a God through some sort of secret knowledge or secret works. So it's, again, the common theme. Do you think that transhumanism is the next step in this whole process for mankind? I mean, we've dabbled in, you know, a bunch of other practices and things like that, but taking the technology of the day and using it to transform humans into something that's not that a human.

Do you think that's the next step to trying to, you know, the sinful fallen man's trying to ascend to be their own gods? Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I think that is the end game, you know. It is that the place that we're inevitably headed is to create a machine. All I got to do is like the people into quantum computers and into groups like Kindred who, you know, their logo is the snake biting its tail. The people like Jordi Rose and some of the others, they're admittedly into the occult and into dark types of things. They admit that they're interacting with entities. through quantum computers that really aren't good, they're really not bad, they're just kind of, but they do have information to be accessed. So they're like the great old ones of H.P. Lovecraft. They really don't care about you, but they can be used in access. And that's kind of what like what people think they can do with magic.

Yeah, there's black magic out there and there's dark entities. But me, I can contact just the white light and just work with the angel beings and I'm good. I'm going to be covered. And, you know, the Bible says that we can recognize these beings. We can test the spirits. And how you test the spirits is to ask if Jesus Christ came in the flesh, did Jesus Christ die for our sins and is the way to heaven? If they deny that, they're of the Antichrist.

And I think the transhuman movement, the whole trans movement human realm, if you look at these people, these people are like half wizard, half scientists. You know, they're deep into this kind of stuff. And so they are merging the spiritual and the technological. And what I think will eventually come is basically you picture of black box that says, this black box gives us access to interdimensional entities who are much more involved than us. They're here to help us. And all we have to do is talk to this device.

And it can now be our leader. It will guide us. It will allocate resources. It will bring us together. Or, you know, maybe even create a hive mind type thing where people think they're uploading their consciousness into this black box to become, you know, everyone's connected minds that ascends into this ultimate leader or this alternate anti-Christ technology. So that's kind of my guess of what it's going to be. And I think it's also going to connect to the alien deception and the nephalum. If you read the stories of like Nimrod, for instance, in the Tower of Babel, all these things are keys and pieces of the puzzle to give us their parables of where we're headed.

And Nimrod, if you read, he made himself into this thing through some sort of technology. He made himself into a nephlum type being. He changed his DNA, so to speak, to where he could then, you know, he wasn't necessarily even humans. So I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be, but I think it's going to be. but I think it's going to be possibly a manipulation of the DNA, something with the blood. I, you know, but I don't know those specifics exactly. Yeah, and anybody listening, I mean, if they don't know that, that's, you're exactly right. I mean, that's how Nimrod did.

I mean, it was through some type of magic and technology combination, I think. Yeah, alchemy. He was like the original alchemist and original Freemason type of dude. Yeah, he's the founder. Have you heard about, on these topics and stuff, have you heard about what Facebook is doing with their new mother company? Meta? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, that's inevitable. Yeah, I mean, the merging of going to the virtual and augmented reality, you know, they want us. It's the next step of the trans movement. The trans movement isn't about turking boys to girls and girls to boys. It's about making humans, non-humans, you know, And the step in that is this augmented reality where literally you become an avatar. When anyone looks at you, they will see whatever you want to appear as.

So again, wanting to be your own God, wanting to manipulate your own universe to be exactly what you are. You know, that's kind of where all this is headed. And people kind of see the right on the wall. We kind of know it's not a good thing. But it's also, I think these guys think, well, it's inevitable. Well, if we don't do it someone else will, so we might as well as Facebook step up and make it happen. Right. Yeah, that's exactly right. And even Elon Musk has said similar things. You know, it's inevitable. It's going to happen. And there's no stopping it. But if anybody listening, if you think about it, so I don't know for, I don't know about Facebook per se because I feel like Facebook is viewed as like the old social media.

Like it was, you know, it was the first one and all the old people hang out on. Facebook and all that stuff. But just think back to Facebook when it first started how much people spent time on Facebook, how addictive it got. And what we do know about how they pursued making their social media app addictive. So people would spend more time on it because the more time they spend on it, the more they get in front of advertising, the more money everybody makes. It's really a simple process when you think about it. But if you think about how addictive Facebook, Instagram, all these social media platforms are where people, especially young people, kids, teenagers, young adults, you know, if you got the time, you're going to spend it on these

apps. TikTok, TikTok's probably the one that all the young kids are on. You can spend hours on, you know, flipping through videos and stuff like that. It's so easy to get sucked into these wormholes. Well, if that's the case, how much more addictive will it be with the augmented reality that that that meta is going to be putting out. You know, like, they already are in the business of making you addicted to what they do. And now they're going to give it to you in a sense where you're going to have your own avatar. You can make your, like, just make yourself who you want to be in this other reality. And I've said this years ago that I believe that one day VR is going to be so good

that you're going to have people willingly choose to live in the VR realm over this, this reality, of real reality. And I think we, with meta and Facebook, I think we've taken one giant step in that direction because of all the companies, all the companies out there, who,

like Facebook, meta, whatever you want to call it is the last, one of the last companies, I would want pursuing this technology because of what we know they've already been able to do with just a social media app on your phone.

You know, and it's just like, I just don't, I don't. And will I be in virtual reality land? Well, if it pays the bills, maybe I will be. You know, like, like, I guess I, that's, that's something that it's like, just because it can be used for evil doesn't mean it's evil, right?

Exactly. And I think the idea of virtual reality is a very cool thing in the sense of like, so imagine me, the podcaster, I just started taking YouTube serious this year. I'm now, you know, building my YouTube. channel. I'm trying to do videos interviews when I can. And the, imagine me being able to say, okay, I'm scrapping the video, the video aspect of this whole thing when we're going to go into virtual reality. That's it. That's something that I've talked about when I first started podcasting in the early days about how one day people are going to be able to put their VR's headset

on or whatever, push the button on the side of their head and turn it on or whatever it is. And they could actually sit down in the student. with me and feel like they're actually here with me while I produce the show. Like, I think that's coming. I think it's a possibility. I think it would be cool. I think that be really cool. But I also think that with this technology, it could be abused and shoot. Anybody who doesn't think Facebook's going to abuse it, you're crazy. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, talk about the, you know, technology in the wrong hands. I mean, I I hope that they have some sort of competition, but it sounds like they're trying to make it,

you know, everything merge together, everything work under this, you know, umbrella of Facebook, kind of like, you know, Apple is able to do. You've got to be under Apple. Everything has got to merge with Apple, no outside type things, but they claim that everybody will be able to use it through any platform, but they're the ones making the platform. So it's kind of their thing. Nobody's going to have a choice. Yeah, it's kind of taking the choice right out, isn't it? I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's really not, and it's the common thing. I mean, they'll, they'll paint a picture as to how it's going to be, how they think, you know, how can we pitch this to everybody to make everybody feel good about it? And then we just kind of pretty much do what we want to do, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean,

they'll provide the illusion that there's other companies doing, but really it's just like one umbrella company doing it's like you know a lot of the companies out there like dish network and direct tv you know it's like there used to be lots of different companies under there under satellite companies now there's pretty much just those two and those are disappearing because everybody's just going online so things in the corporate world tend to monopolize and but present the illusion that they're not a monopoly but behind the scenes they're all kind of working together 100% I agree and and Listen, if you doubt that, I mean, where have you been? You know, when all these social media companies, these tech companies, like, I'm talking not just social media, but also tech companies ban one person in one day.

You don't think that was just a coincidence and they just all happened to come to the same conclusion at the same time? You silly humans, you're about to be transformed into trans humans and you're not going to know it because you're so. silly. It's not hard to see. Like I said, this stuff is externalized now. It's it's externalized for all to see in a way that's kind of God's grace because people in the past could have in their mind say, well, I could just say I had my head bearing the sand and I didn't know. Well, now you're pretty hard pressed to say you didn't recognize that. You didn't see this stuff coming. My gosh, all you got to do is have a little bit of common sense to see where this is headed and, you know, a little bit of knowledge in biblical background to see that this has all been.

prophesied and it's unfolding right before our eyes we're in the season yeah and that's another thing it's crazy uh just the idea that uh this has been talked about for centuries in prophetical writings and it's just um i i just like part of me is like i feel like i was built for a time like this where i was like yeah this is freaking awesome let's go let me like every day i wake up yeah it's like every day you wake up you're like okay what's the next shoot a drop Let's go. You're trying to read the tea leaves and all that stuff. And then there's other part of me is like, freak, man.

Like, why couldn't this happen like 100 years from now when my descendants don't even know who I am and they're out of my, they're not my responsibility and all that stuff. Because like now this stuff's happening in my lifetime. And there's like, there's a whole process to go through to get to the end game. And I don't want to go through that process necessarily with two kids. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, it can appear scary, but I think, you know, like God has a plan and he's raising people up.

He's raising specific people up for a time such as this. And that's where we need to believe in, I guess, this next generation and raise them right to recognize these kinds of things and do what's right and realize that, yeah, they may have a battle on their hands. But, you know, that's kind of what comes when these things unfold. When, you know, the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing, you know. So that's kind of, we need good men and women to step up and support truth and expose deception, expose lies. Well, I would say I'm not scared. I just don't feel like going through it sometimes. Sure, sure. It's one of those things where there's really not much to fear when it comes to it because of how I view the world. So I'm just like, I ain't scared. I just don't feel like it. Why can't I have the normal life that, you know,

give me like the 1980s and 90s back okay I just want to say that you know what I'm saying like everything went to hell after 9-11 like I just want I just want the previous 20 years on repeat just give me the tech of today but the but but the normalcy of that time uh yeah I want to and I think this kind of probably goes with with the conversation we were just having here about transhumanism and things like that what do you think about robophobia ah yes robophobia so yeah, this is a good song, you know, just talking about how technology we've been just shaped by our technology, we want to buy the latest, greatest thing. And then they sell us more technology to just wear that out to get the next greatest thing. And people are just being, you know,

controlled by technology. And in a way, we should be, we should recognize it. And not necessarily, like I said, be fearful as a phobia, but recognize it as where it's heading and what the ultimate conclusion is and at least be prepared and educated as to, you know, what not to fall victim to. Yeah, I agree. Let's play Robophobia. We'll come back in and we'll bring the ship in for a docking here. Here it is Robophobia.

And listen, friends, go to Destiny Lab on YouTube, hit subscribe so you get all the updates as to with things they come out with. Right now, they're sitting at just under 18,000 subscribers. Listen, let's get them to 20,000 by the end of the week. All right? Let's do this. Here's Robophobia. Here we go. This is all, Son, yeah. I realize that nothing we've been doing is new. We haven't been tapping into new areas of the brain. We've just been awakening the most ancient. This technology is simply around to powers that conjurers and alchemists used centuries ago. We see an exponential growth in our machines and innovations as technology surpasses and exceeds our limitations. Implications could be serious.

In many past and present futures have been warning us for years about the consequences. Massive repercussions. We see the evidence dependence on our internet and phones and games and televisions losing independence. As we've immersed ourselves and working all our fingers to the bones for corporations. We give them back our paychecks for the latest in the greatest plastic upgrades, nameband products and replacements, databases investing hours of our own free time uploading information used against us to target us with market advertising toward our interests collecting information used to monitor our senses correcting anyone who won't comply you be connected how long before a mandatory microchips ejects

it's the age old lie the promise of utopia the carrot on the stick the imp to cornucopia technological hive mind dysopia where will arise is a time of robophobia it's the age old lie The promise of utopia, the carrot on the stick, the empty cornucopia, technological hive mind dysopia, where will it rise is a time of robophobia. It's an emerging type insurgents, converging and been merging and churning, slowly bursting to the surface, it's concerning every person and confirming every warning, the disturbing thought we're working toward a single-mindless merging and converting us to downloadable versions of ourselves inside a full immersion, universal simulated virtual reality. Where every living earthlings neural pathways are inspected mandatorily and connected using voice to sculpted apathy

Absorbing data fingerprints to play us back like instruments manipulating us just like what puppets of antiloquists Remote controlling human beings like wiji boards coursing through the veins of circuit boards record the sounds of every vocal cord Moving exponentially towards a singularity eventually we won't distinguish magic from technology And robots will unplug from electricity no longer using batteries but powered like a gallum using alchemy It's the age old lie, the promise of utopia, the carrot on the stick, the impter cornucopia, technological hive mind dyscopia, where will it rise is a time of robophobia. It's the age old lie, the promise of utopia, the carotopia, the carot on the stick, the impter cornucopia, technological hive mind dyscopia, will it rise is a time of robophobia.

So they manipulate genetically, our DNA collectively, infecting every living organism and directing every intersection. thought and every memory and vision inspecting our opinions and collecting our decisions. A digital technocracy emerging as philosophy inserting thought police patrols and mind control technology removing private property enforcing thought bureaucracy

reducing every freedom and pursuit of life and liberty. Consistently expanding all their terms and their conditions with minimum requirements and maximum restrictions creating unknown problems to offer fake solutions to complicate the system tell there's nothing but confusion depicting anyone who won't

conform as unacceptable, demanding everyone to all agree and not be skeptical, eventually connecting every mind from every nation, fulfilling prophecies from Genesis to Revelation. It's the age old lie, the promise of utopia, the carrot on the stick, the empty cornucopia, technological half-mind dystopia, well, when it rises a time of robophobia. Even with all these new abilities that are dangerous, human race lost that knowledge, and now I'm reclaiming it through virtual reality. I love it. I freaking love it. Guys, listen, everybody needs to start checking out your music if they haven't already. It's really, I love it. Listen, you mentioned earlier in this conversation

about creatures, like Bigfoot and stuff. And I know you have a song, A paranormal species that you talk about all this kind of stuff. What are your thoughts on what Bigfoot is or people seeing the dog man, these cryptids. Like, do you think that they come from a demonic realm? Do you think that they are something natural? What are your thoughts on it all? I think it's probably both, the mixture of both. I think there definitely could be, you know, real creatures out there that are unknown. I mean, that's been, you know, proven time again, that we've found things even like the, you know, the gorilla and things. People think we've known about forever, but that's a pretty recent discovery. So it's definitely possible there could be a great

ape-like creature and or dinosaur-like creature somewhere that's just been able to escape everybody's, you know, view. But I think it opens the doorway. It's just kind of like aliens. It's possible. There could be life on other planets. I don't know, you know, or somewhere out there that God created somehow. But I think the enemy has used this curiosity. Like I said, or humans want signs and wonders, we want proof, one evidence, it's tangible that we can see and feel. So when we long for something enough, the enemy is willing a lot of times to create a costume,

created a size to present itself in that manner. And I think if you look through like the alien thing through history, for instance, you know, back in the like the early, you know, 40s, 50s, you know, a lot of times people that were supposedly channeling aliens or being abducted were being told, or these people that were claiming they were aliens were saying they're from Venus, they're from the moon, they're from, you know, Mars, there's things that we knew about at that time. But nowadays, since, you know, the universe has become much bigger and we know that, you know, supposedly there's, you know, light years of space out there, that there must be,

you know, other creatures out there because the universe is so big. so vast it's got to be true, you know. So throughout time, it's kind of altered that disguise. And so now these entities present themselves from Zeta Reticuli and all these far-off places. And so I think the costume changes and I think it depends on the tent. So the things, if you look at Mothman, for instance, some of the people that were into Mothman, it kind of got got into some occulty kind of creepy stuff.

People that have been even into, I mean, the Chupacava, all these kind of things, a lot of most people is just the search for truth right and whoa is this a real creature but the people some people that get deep into it they become desperate you know and it's like maybe i can channel these things or maybe i can somehow call them or conjure them or you know something to get them to come to get them up here it's similar to somebody who's lost a loved one and they're so desperate to have contact with this person they hold a seance and suddenly this person is contacted to them these entities are happy to even disguise themselves of your loved ones. That's why the Bible calls them familiar spirits, because they are familiar to you. They're familiar to your family. They know these things.

They can answer these questions to appear as something that would be believable. But we can also test the spirits, like I said earlier. Yeah, you brought up an interesting point. Like the idea of aliens. You don't know. I don't think any of us know. I come from the same perspective as you. I don't know if aliens exist in the sense that like I would I feel very uncomfortable saying that I know God can and cannot do certain things just because I don't understand it kind of thing. But then there's the other aspect of things where there are there are reports of extraterrestrial if you just want to call it you know that for general generalizations diving in. E.T experiences that have a lot of trademarks of demonic things.

And so it kind of goes back to what you were saying earlier about how Satan can come as an angel of light using something maybe good or God created for evil. And we've seen that how many times throughout scripture. And so could it be possible that aliens do exist, but then there's the twisting of it. And the reality is that what people are experiencing or maybe some of the things people are experiencing aren't actually, but demonic, you know, when we're talking about, and then you're starting to see the merge between governmental leadership and coming out and saying, yes, these things are real, this, that, and the other. And when you step back and you're like, okay, I already believe that the higher you go in our government, world governments, these elites, this, that, and the other, I already believe that

deeper it gets into Satanism. And now these people are coming forward and saying, yes, these are real, this, that, and the other. And it just makes me step back and say, uh, hmm, what are you up to? You know? Yeah, I think that's why they can't necessarily have disclosure is because maybe some of these people at the top realize they're working with dark forces. They realize these are the fallen angels or the spirits of the Nephilim, um, demonic type entities, you know, and, but it works, so they're willing to do it. I think that's a lot of people that get into dark magic, you know, get caught up in.

They don't, it doesn't really matter what it is. They don't want to know what it is, but does it work, you know? And this is what these people got caught up. And especially, you know, and we know the CIA and FBI, you know, these spies have tried to utilize, you know, astral projection and witchcraft to, to use to spy in other countries even, you know, because they're looking for tools that work. and they're desperate for that and whatever it may be, you know.

And so I think you look at Hitler, for instance, you know, he was having the Thuley Society and Vril technology and all this stuff. He was actually having, you know, women channel supposed downloaded blueprints and descriptions of how to build crafts and how to actually, you know, create technology. And I don't think that's far-fetched to think that that same thing. is happening today that there's a group of people behind the scenes, both in the technological realm, people in music industry, people in, you know, movie industry that are basically channeling this information like they call the Akashik records or typing,

tapping into the ether. And they even admit it, you know, people are just like Joe Rogan. I, you know, I like listening to Joe Rogan, but he's admitted, you know, sometimes I feel like I get in the groove and something speaking through me. And I don't even know where these ideas are coming from. They're just pouring out of me and it's just coming to fruition. I think that's a lot of people who wrote sci-fi in the past claim the same thing. Like, you know, Philip K. Dick, you know, he kind of claims that he kind of channeled this information, so to speak.

And much of his sci-fi, you know, things were prophetic in a way. So it's interesting to try to think about, you know, how much of this is true, how much of this it is, a twist on the truth and how much of it is out. right deception. And that's, you know, that's why we need a foundation. That's what, to me, the Word of God gives us a filter to verify things and pull these pieces of the puzzle together. And the Word of God acts like the glue that takes these pieces of the puzzle and makes a picture that we can actually see. We don't have the full picture possibly, but we can tell where this is headed. We can see the dots connecting. Yeah. I will say this. I will say this. I will say this. I am working on a little side, well, it's becoming a pretty not-so side project of

mine. I can't talk in great detail because I don't know when I'm going to release this information and how I'm going to do it. But I will say this, that I was talking to a woman who has very much intimate knowledge as to other realms and what goes on there and what comes through to our realm. And she says that there are certain movies that will give her almost PTSD because it's spot on accurate to the detail as to what she's gone through. And it just, it really tells me that in Hollywood, listen, let's just keep it at Hollywood. In Hollywood, somebody, people are doing things and tapping into things to get knowledge of things that are really actually in existence to portray to you through the,

theater movie set for whatever purposes, whether it's to desensitize you, to introduce you to their true loves, whatever it is. And if Hollywood is doing that, you can bet that the CIA, FBI, whatever you want to say is doing it as well. We know they've done it. If you, if anybody's listened to some of the M.K. Ultra shows we've done for the members, like it, it gets there. It gets there. And then so if you have the government's doing it, the Hollywood's doing it, what else is doing it? sports industry. It's very clear that the sports industry is going that direction now. And so it's one thing after another. And I'll just say, I'll just say with everything that goes

on in this world, everything that we're exposed to and stuff, the more time that goes on, the more we need to be vigilant and aware of what's happening around us and question everything. Even question me. Yes, question me. But I will tell you, I will tell everybody this, if and when this project comes to light, whether it's through this podcast or my documentaries, things have been vetted. Okay. Let's just point it that way. There's no pulling the wool over my eyes with this whole storyline I'm working on.

It's absolutely incredible. Wow. I'm excited. I heard you talking about it in some earlier episodes. So that should be awesome. Yeah. Actually, what I was talking about in other episodes is something totally different. I'm actually a little bit more fearful for my life on that project.

This project, I'm not as fearful in my life as much as my brain might not be intact when it's all done because of it exploding so many times. It's like everything, like it's just everything that I've talked about for years on this show, everything, the perceived reality that I feel like is out there that that, that, that, isn't so perceived by so many people is, all right. So like, you know how, okay, so we talk about bigfoot, aliens, UFOs, dog man, you name it. We talk about it on the show, right? And I feel like every, every one of those categories or topics of conversation is a puzzle piece to one great big puzzle of a picture. And I feel like we, we have all these little pieces, but we're missing

that one piece that is the centerpiece that everything connects to. I think I might have found it. And it's, it's, it's, it's blowing my mind because it's just tying everything together. I'm like, holy crap. Holy crap, you know, like, and it just like literally has been developing over the last four or five days. So this is really, real new development for me. And it's just, wow. Nice. That's exciting, man.

Can't wait to hear more. Yeah. So anyways, Ark from Destiny Lab. Thank you for being here. Before we get out of here, let people know once again where they can get your music and follow you guys on social and all that fun stuff. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much again.

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And please, yeah, subscribe if you can. I want to get to 20,000 by the end of your year. That would be amazing. So thank you so much for having it on, bro. Oh, yeah. I'm glad you were here. And you know what? On the way out, we should probably play paranormal species just so that, you know,

people can hear it since you mentioned it. You know what I mean? Cool. Yeah, that'd be awesome. All right. Here's paranormal species, everybody. And Ark, thanks again for being here. Thank you, brother.

God bless. This is in the Chupacabra. Remind me. I just want to remind you. No, this is something huge. This is something that reminds me of the mothman stories of Point Pleasant. And how the mop man has scared the living daylights on me because when I'm in the dark, I wouldn't want two big red eyes staring at me from the window, tapping on the window.

And then I look out and I see something hodged over with big wing. or a flying demon or something. I don't love that anywhere near me. What are these creatures that are so confound us from the mothman? Through the chupacabres, the big foot, the sun call a Sasquatch, legendary icons like monster mascots, the Loch Ness monster, the Jersey devil,

creepy shadow people that'll make you tremble, paranormal species on every level when they're unleashed, it's like transcendental, We haven't even started with the alien question, not to mention the fact they meet expectations. Observer effect is that spooky action, an electron, photon, quantum reaction. So often they appear as what people imagine. To which to choose from, hovering like vultures with black-eyed vision, scavenging on carcasses who give permission,

open to inviting every superstition, tapped in and in tune to receive transmissions, The vision flipped into a virtual reality. Dimensions whip here to buzzin like a box. Unexplained about all these creatures that are so confound us from Mossman. Sleepy shadow people, the species are nemes. These are spiritual beings, inner dimensional, with three-dimensional team and your dreams. Let's go back and tossing in chains.

Creatures is so confound us from my creepy shadow people. When I'm looking into subjects that really scare me, dig up some of the scariest creatures, the scariest instances. of sightings and appearances. I mean, you know, we all know, you know, man has had his encounters with fallen angels. Well, that's the show, everybody.

I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you did enjoy it, please share the show with your friends. I don't care where or how you share the show. Just share the show if you enjoyed it because that's the best thing you can do to help this show grow. I really do hope you enjoyed this conversation I had with Arc. I certainly did. And it was a long time coming, so I'm glad we got it done.

And until next week, friends, stay safe. Take care. And remember, truth was such a free, but first don't piss you off. Bye. Awaken from the forest and the depths of the abyss. This creature is a paradigm of time lost and time itself. It fears no one.

It adheres to no rule that man can create. It forges its own path, and yet its path remains hidden from the world. The sphere of his existence is beyond most comprehension, as it exudes its power quietly but transatlantic. It needs no one's approval to exist, but yet its very existence is sought after by many. It watches. It learns. Adapt to the ever-changing environment around it, even as the environment is wrought with corruption. It battles the corruption only when pressed or for the protection of others like it. It is a mirage that few will ever understand. It's a cornucopia of a

Knowledge from an era long past. It's free. It's Bigfoot. My fantasy's always consisted of making it big. My soul was nothing more than a bargaining chip. Marketing is what they tell you to do and what you're willing to give. Larkin to the fullest extent. I don't wait.

I shoot first like hide on a roadian. And people don't understand me like reading anokian. Stretch thin. Like pulling in accordion. My heart ain't tibordium. All these historians telling us lies. The end aside. Everything is medicalized.

Politicians selling the ride. I bet him would die Where the relevance lies They're dressing alike Reptilians. My resilience is brilliant I'm here to lead the rebellion On helion, salient alien with no melanin

I'm a Yeti ain't hiding from Armageddian Come and find me I ain't even hiding We ain't the same I play no game Dude like your strad