The Confessionals - RELOADED | 401: Plasma Blue Alien Of The Woods
Episode Date: January 16, 2023In Episode 401: Plasma Blue Alien of the Woods, Nathan joins The Confessionals to tell us about a few of his unexplained paranormal experiences – particularly a very strange sight he encountered in ...the woods. While enjoying a cabin retreat in Idaho, Nathan was sitting outside at the fire one night when he saw a bright flash of light that lit up part of the sky. Following the flash, points of lights started moving out in the woods. Rather than stay put or return back inside, Nathan took off running into the trees to find out where the lights were coming from - and ran straight into an encounter with glowing blue alien-like beings. In an Overtime segment following Episode 401, Nathan continues to share his life stories, including an upsetting time when he came home to find his family gone.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinGet Crypto-Color (Coloring Book):Non-Signed Copy: https://amzn.to/3Yn23RlSigned Copy: https://www.merkel.media/store/p/cryptocolorWatch Expedition Dogman: https://amzn.to/3OVyUs6Tony's Studio Equipment: linktr.ee/mystudiogearSPONSORSGET Cerebral: getcerebral.com/tonyGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals16 Promo Code: "confessionals16" for 16 FREE MEALS!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comGet Beard Oil: bit.ly/2FbOhN5GET ExpressVPN: www.expressvpn.com/confessCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: theconfessionals@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaITikTok: @theconfessionalsDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelAre you a military veteran struggling with thoughts of suicide?Contact Watchman Readiness Corps for REAL help. A veteran-run organization that is designed to help through hands-on survival training.Website: wrc.vetEmail: watchmanreadiness@gmail.comPhone: (214) 912-8714Instagram: wrc_survivalFacebook: colbywrcvet
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and then the overtime we kind of shift topics a little bit.
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All right. Today we got Nathan on the show. Nathan, how you doing, man?
Doing good. How are you? Doing fine, man, doing fine. So Nathan, this is going to be a fun,
interesting show. We're going to start off with your paranormal experiences and you've had UFO.
settings and some hauntings.
But we're going to start off with you giving the background as to how this all kind of unfolded
in your life.
And then in the second segment, we're going to kind of dive into your life.
You've had a very interesting life.
And maybe even before we get into the paranormal, if you want to just kind of give people
like a million mile overview of kind of your crazy experience of a life that you had
growing up, kind of let them know where we're going to be going in the overtime segment.
Right on.
Sounds good.
All right.
So when I was a kid, I ended up living with my grandparents.
My mom had me and all my siblings at a really young age.
And she was involved in a lot of drugs and just kind of messed up as a person.
So my grandparents stepped in and took all of us in.
Grew up with my grandparents, my aunt.
My aunt pretty much took over being the mother of me and my brother and my two sisters.
And she was awesome.
but she used to talk to us about all the paranormal and the strange things in the world.
She believed that everyone has psychic abilities and that goes surreal.
She was adamant about when you die.
Like sometimes you linger as a guardian angel for people who need you or however you need to continue if you died untimely or out of place.
So anyways
My aunt would tell us stories about
Seeing Angels or her brother that had passed away
I had a lot of health problems when I was a baby
So I used to have sleep apnea really bad
She said a few times she came in
And she just had a feeling or she heard
Her brother's voice telling her to get up and check on me
She said she came in a couple times and I was just blue, you know, like stop breathing completely.
And so she swore up and down that, you know, he had saved me from beyond the grave.
So that was pretty cool.
But probably around five or six, she started trying to get us to develop psychic abilities, essentially.
She played games with us, like with a deck of cards, you know, pick a color, pick a suit, pick a number.
and we never really have thought much of it.
And it was just a fun game.
But yeah, that was interesting.
She told us about how when she was in school,
she used to have this extracurricular thing
where she would leave and go into this closet
with these interesting, suited people.
And I don't know if you know what Xenar cards are,
or Zener cards.
They're the cards that have the different shapes on them.
a star square triangle.
But they would go and it was essentially the same kind of game.
They'd put the cards upside down and ask her to identify them.
And apparently she scored really well.
And then she started talking to my grandma about it.
And my grandma told her to not score well, you know,
because she was worried about them taking her or whatever.
However, it's a long story.
But anyways, so my aunt, she got into all the paranormal stuff with us.
She told us that ghosts are real, demons are real.
She taught us how to make protective symbols and just like take care of ourselves spiritually as well as physically and mentally.
So all that.
She apparently had a bunch of UFO experiences as a child.
I can get into that later.
but she basically told us that, you know, there's people or beings beyond earth,
and it's real, even though the media tries to deny it.
So keep a mindful eye.
Yeah, I guess that's pretty much that.
And then, you know, I live with my grandparents for a while.
My aunt met a guy online.
We went down to Georgia.
I lived there for a couple years.
sent me back up here with one of her friends.
I ended up staying there for a little over a year.
So I was about 16.
Ended up getting a girl pregnant.
And then my friends, my aunt's friends just bailed on me one day.
So I went home to an empty house.
Stayed with my girlfriend off and on when I could.
Her mom didn't want me there.
So I did a lot of car hopping and sleeping on the street.
When we finally had our child, we went to the hospital.
He was born a little premature, so they had us stay in a Ronald McDonald house for about two weeks.
And on the day that they said that we could take him home, they had a caseworker come in.
And she said, you're not going to be taking him home.
He's going into the foster care system.
We ended up going in also because I was a minor without a guardian.
and her mom had a warrant out.
So we packed up our things.
We all went into one house for the night.
And then the next day, they split us up.
So my kid went to one house.
My girlfriend at the time and her sister went to one house.
And I went to another house.
Went through the foster care system.
That was a nightmare in itself.
But I was lucky and I had a really good foster family.
when I got out of there
I said F at all
I felt really abandoned by my family
because the family that I did have
wasn't willing to take me out so
packed up my things
I went to California
lived there for a couple years
until everything fell through
I had three jobs at one point
I was trying to sell my car
so I could get a better one
and ended up having a tweaker
steal my car
he was looking at it, you know, and I was naive.
And I went inside to grab the key because he's like, oh, where's the key at?
But apparently he had just pocketed it.
Went inside, heard my car start, came out, he was driving off.
So I didn't know what to do.
I called my friend and I was like, hey, I think someone just stole my car.
So ended up calling the police.
and they couldn't find my car.
It ended up getting found a week later,
but in that week, I didn't have transportation to work
or I was going to school at the time too.
So I ended up getting flunked out of college, lost my jobs,
and I had applied for FAFSA.
So about a month later, I went to go check my mail,
and I had a check in there for $1,300.
And I said, you know what, I'm going to go home.
So I moved back up here, stay with my aunt for a while.
Yeah, I ended up having another kid and then just kind of starting over.
Yeah.
So you told me, you know, the brief overview and I said, wow.
And you're like, that's not even a half of it.
And I'm just like, holy crap.
And so we'll definitely get into that.
So you mentioned that your aunt had her own UFO experiences.
Is that kind of like how you got involved and the whole?
whole thing started for you?
I'd say it definitely opened up my eyes to things.
You know, we used to go outside and we'd look up at the sky and it should be like,
oh, there's one, you know?
And who knows if they were just satellites or whatever, but, you know, like we'd look
for moving lights in the sky.
Like, we never saw anything that was definitely a UFO, I guess.
But, you know, it was fun to dream.
Yeah.
And especially as a kid, it gives you something to do.
do, right? Right. Yeah. Something to, something to think about. Yeah. So, how does, how do you want to go about
this? Do you want to go into your experience or do you want to start laying more groundwork?
We can go ahead and go into my experiences, I guess. All right. I want to start with the paranormal stuff?
Do you want to start with the paranormal stuff or the UFO stuff? However. You decide. Go ahead. Go for it.
All right. So we'll go, we'll just go chronologically, starting with the paranormal stuff because I can
first. So I guess we used to see, you know, like shadow figures and like hear noises and we're a kid.
My aunt, she would always tell us that like that was my uncle Sean, you know, walking around with
his boots because he always wore these really heavy boots being an electrician.
So that was kind of the intro of that. But we used to see a lot of shadows and shapes and the darkness,
you know. So I remember the first.
one I remember. I was laying in my room and my sister was staying in there. I don't remember why.
She was scared of the dark or something. But she was sleeping on the floor. She woke me up in the
middle of the night. She's like, do you, do you see that? And I was like, what? What are you talking about?
She's just gesturing in the dark. She's like in the closet. There's eyes. And I didn't see anything.
But, you know, she was adamant that she saw something.
So I just rolled over.
I was like, go back to sleep.
You're just having a bad dream.
A couple weeks later, I was going to sleep.
I had the lights out and the fan on.
I was just kind of staring out towards the closet.
And I saw eyes.
So, you know, I was like, okay, what's that about?
I just tried to shove it out of my mind, rolled over the other way,
and I went back to sleep.
but that's kind of when it started ramping up.
So after that, you know,
we'd go play hide and seek in the dark in the house tonight and whatnot,
but we'd start seeing shadow figures.
I mean, nothing ever really happened drastically,
but we definitely saw some stuff.
And then when we moved in to another house,
it was probably two or three years after that.
I think I was about seven or eight years old, maybe a little older.
So we moved into this house.
It was a huge house, and my grandparents got a really good deal on it.
And we had a pretty big family at the time.
It was me, my two sisters, I had a cousin, my aunt, my uncle, and both my grandparents.
We all lived together.
So we moved into this house, and it was cool.
You know, there was a little back building that we used to play in.
They didn't want us playing back there because it was really falling apart,
but it had this hatch in the floor.
And like, it was the coolest thing ever.
So, uh, yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
Uh, so we started seeing stuff about a month after that living in the house.
My, my cousin was the first one to start seeing things.
Her bedroom was upstairs in the middle of the hallway, basically.
But she had the attic.
access to her room.
And she started telling us that she was hearing, you know, talking at night and, like,
things would move in her room.
And we're like, oh, you're crazy.
You know, like, she was kind of a liar as a child, I guess, like to tell tales.
So they all just kind of like push it off.
But then we started seeing things also, you know, shadow people, I guess just lurking in
the corners of rooms.
And just being a kid, you know,
you're not sure if you're seeing it, I guess.
I never was 100% sure that it was actually there if it was just my imagination,
talking about ghost stories or watching scary movies.
You don't really know what's real.
But the one thing that definitely changed my mind,
my friend was over one night and we were going up to go to bed.
And we were going to sleep in my aunt's room.
She was out in Washington with her.
boyfriend for a couple weeks.
And my bedroom was pretty small.
I shared it with my brother.
So we decided we were going to go sleep in the plane bed.
So we were just going up there, you know, messing around talking.
And I opened the door and he stopped.
So I looked at him.
I was like, what's wrong?
He was like, do you see that?
So I look and I didn't see anything.
But as soon as I looked,
this hand materialized out of nothing.
It was like this glowing green hand.
And my aunt had this goblet full of like,
I guess they're kind of like orbies,
but they were scented.
So it was kind of like an air freshener thing sitting in the window.
And this hand grabs that goblet and threw it at us across the room.
And we just freaked out.
We ran and jumped in the bed and threw the covers over our head.
and I mean he was crying and we just sat there for a good 30 minutes, you know,
waiting to hear something or see something.
I think we finally ended up falling asleep,
but that definitely like changed my mind about what we were seeing.
So it turned out when we moved out,
my grandparents had found out that it was a meth lab.
And like, I didn't find this out until I was probably about 13 years old.
and my aunt, like, family told us.
But they looked in the attic.
Apparently, there was a leak or something.
So they went up there after we had moved out,
and they found two bodies wrapped up in plastic
and covered in insulation in the attic.
Jeez.
Yeah, no, I mean, that just,
but I kind of just, like, put everything together, you know?
And then they had told my grandparents that it was a meth lab,
and there was meth in the walls still,
and that was a safety hazard.
I don't think my grandparents ever took any legal action or anything.
They just kind of said, okay, and then moved on.
I wasn't really in the loop, so I'm not sure what exactly happens,
but that was some scary stuff.
Just knowing that we were living there next to a couple bodies
for the better part of a year, if not longer.
Those bodies were in the attic?
Yeah, the entire time.
just, you know, and my cousin, she was 20 feet from him when she was sleeping.
And, I mean, there was no smell or anything. You guys didn't ever notice a smell?
No, there was, so underneath the attic was the kitchen and dining room. And I remember like
a spot on the ceiling, like a water spot, you know, but now we never smelled anything.
There's never bugs or, you know, it wasn't anything obvious. But, you know, one time,
we looked in there because we were curious kids and I actually went probably like halfway back
in the attic but I do remember seeing a giant bulge in the insulation, you know, but I didn't
think anything of it. But I got I got spooked and went out, you know, I never told anybody
or did anything further about it. So, holy cow, man. So, I mean, looking back at that situation,
Did you feel like what you experienced in the house was the spirits of those dead bodies or what?
I think so, yeah.
Now, this green hand that appeared, did that seem like ghostly or was it very physical?
It was pretty solid from what I remember, but it was just a hand.
And like it appeared as it was moving towards the goblet, just materialized.
And it was dark in the room, but the hand was well lit.
Not quite a neon, but more like a pale green.
Like a pale green isn't almost like a, like green, like a dead green almost?
Yeah, like the old Frankenstein green, I guess, but I would call it.
Wow, man.
Wow.
That's crazy.
I can't imagine that.
That would have scarred me seeing a hand up here like that and throwing the goblet at you.
I mean, you said your friend ran in fear and was crying.
Did he ever come back to that house?
Yeah, he was back there a few times, but we really didn't even talk about it.
You know, just kind of left it alone.
I don't think he really wanted to talk about it.
And then I told my aunt when she came back and I don't remember what she said or anything
ever happening about it after that.
Yeah, I mean, she was involved in in some of that kind of stuff.
well, not that stuff, but like paranormal stuff.
So, I mean, she probably wasn't that surprised by it then.
Right.
Yeah, I think she might have said that like she had some weird experiences too.
But I really don't recall any conversation that happened after that about it.
Wow, man.
Was there anything else that ever happened in that house?
Well, there was a bullet hole in the lampshade.
I guess we thought it was kind of weird, but like didn't put any mind to it.
And then when we moved in, there was a.
really cool hopscotch patterned carpet in half the living room. And it turned out that
somebody had died there and there was blood like soaked into the sub floor when they went to
go remodel it. And so they had ripped out the carpet and covered it up with that hopscotch pad.
But, you know, that was, it was just really cool having a hopscotch pad as a kid. I never thought
anything about it. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. That's kind of crazy. And, you know, kids like that kind of
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Yeah, so I guess my first major UFO experience happened in California.
I was 19 at the time.
I was seeing this girl for a while and we had decided to go camping.
So we packed up our things
And we were living in Eureka at the time
And she wanted to go down south
So we ended up going to this campground
It was called the Bigfoot campground
It was just north of Reading
Say maybe 30, 40 minutes
So we go and
We were just hanging out
You know, it was really hot
I think it was late August
We swam in the river and whatnot
And we ended up getting in a fight
she was upset that I was seeing somebody else because she didn't want to make things official.
But we ended up going to bed that night.
And when we went to go to our tent after being out all day, there was a bunch of people setting up next to us.
A bunch of college-age kids, they had a bunch of tents out.
They was starting to get dark.
And they were over there playing with this like, I guess, 100,000-watt flashlight.
I don't know if you've ever seen those, but it's basically just a giant search light.
Yeah.
So they're out there and messing around with it.
We weren't talking at that point, so we just kind of rolled over and went to sleep.
I ended up waking up in the middle of the night, and there was a light, you know, flashing across the top of the tent.
And I was like, oh, these guys are just out here messing around.
But it was completely silent, you know, like I expected to hear them drinking and laughing or something.
and I was staring at this light
and it was like kind of pulsing
you know in a pattern
I was like well that's really weird
so I reach over and I try to wake her up
I was like hey hey Joe
just kind of shoved her a few times
and I don't know if she woke up or not
but she wasn't responding
so I was like well I'm going to go investigate
so I unzipped the tent
stick my head out
and I look over towards where they were
camping. And this light was illuminating everything that I could see, you know, the tops of the
trees, just everything. And it was daylight bright. So I was like, well, what, what's this?
So I get out of my tent and you could clearly see what direction it was coming from. I guess it was
to the south of where we were. So I get out and zip the tent back up. And I start walking up this hill.
We were next to a porta potty and there was a hill that went up past it
and I could see that the light was coming from over the hill.
So I start walking up the hill in the dark.
I didn't even have a flashlight or anything,
but the light was that bright.
I could see when it pulsed where I was going.
So I get up to the top of this hill and the light pulses again
and there's a little valley down on the other side of the hill.
So I'm looking down and,
I see this massive disc.
I'd say it was probably 50 to 60 feet wide,
just hovering above the ground, maybe 10 feet.
And every time it lights up, it pulses.
And the light, it lit up everything as far as I could see.
You know, like I could see mountains, I'd say probably a quarter mile away.
Like this entire circle, just this disc pulsing in the bottom of this valley,
just lighting everything up.
And, you know, I've always been really curious about extraterrestrials or whatever.
And I was like, I want to go check this out.
So I took a couple steps forward and then something in me just said, don't do it.
You know, I just said, like, turn around, like, forget this.
So despite my inquisitiveness and my better judgment, I guess, I turned around and I went back to the tent.
got inside.
You know, the light was still pulsing.
I zipped it up and I laid down back in my sleeping bag.
And about 10 seconds later, I heard a truck just ripped by on the road.
And these roads are really windy.
If anyone's familiar with the 299, it's a 30 mile per hour speed limit the whole way, you know, with corners that are down to 15, you know,
pair of pin turns.
And I heard this truck just, they're probably.
probably doing, you know, 60 or 70.
So this truck goes by, and then it sounded like five or six other vehicles just right behind it.
So I was like, well, that's really weird.
And then the light stopped as soon as these vehicles ripped by.
And I kind of laid there for a while and listened.
I didn't hear anything.
And then I just ended up drifting off back to sleep.
The next day I asked Joe about it, you know, if she was awake and she's
saw anything and we still weren't talking at that point. So we packed up our things and headed
back and that was the end of our relationship, but she never said anything about it. And I never
got any further information about it. Do you wish that you would have pursued it and went closer?
I mean, I do, but who knows what would have happened? I'm assuming that the vehicles that went by
were military or somebody going to investigate it.
So, I mean, I could have been interrogated or whatever, you know, who knows what had happened.
It probably wouldn't have been good.
So it's probably for the best that I didn't go investigate.
Yeah.
And curiosity kills a cat, right?
Right.
Yeah, I understand that totally.
The light that was pulsating, what color was it?
It was white, like bright, LED white.
And like you said, it was like lighting up the, I guess the mountain range or something.
I mean, what kind of radius are we talking about here?
Was it lighting up the entire area or was it more isolated?
It was as far as I could see, you know, like we were down kind of in a valley along this river.
But it was lighting up the hills all around me.
The disc, it was just a flat disk or was it like a traditional, what you would think of a UFO or what?
yeah i mean it was like flat er but it definitely had some body like there wasn't uh any
bubbles or glass balls on top of it or anything it was just a you know i guess classic ufo
but it was the entire thing that was pulsing like the entire outside of it wow that's
amazing what where the area was this again uh off the 299 about
40 minutes north of Redding, California.
Do you know about, what's it called, China Lake?
I'm not familiar now.
Okay. It's in California, but I think it's actually south of there.
And if I remember correctly, it's some kind of military base that they do, you know, interesting work.
And sometimes I wonder if these kind of things come from there.
But that's really interesting.
Do you get the sense that it was more, you know, arched?
technology that they were they were messing with or do you think that was more extraterrestrial?
I think it's probably something not from Earth just because of this silence.
You know, it was completely quiet and just hovering completely still and the light.
Like I've never seen anything light up like that.
So, I mean, I don't know.
We don't know what the government has.
So it would be a say.
But that paired with the, just all the vehicles going by, you know, it sounded like
they were on their way to check it out.
Yeah, when you told that part of the story,
I was thinking at first that maybe it was other campers or something that saw it
and they decided to peel out of there.
But what you're saying is they went in the direction of where you saw it.
Right.
Man, man, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
I wish I was there.
Like, I wish I would have seen what you saw and peeked my head out to see what vehicles were driving by.
well it was it was pitch black you know there's no civilization out there so probably wouldn't have been
able to see who it was anyways got you i wish i would have been smart and grab my phone or something
you know but didn't even cross my mind that happens a lot in those kind of situations the last
thing you're thinking about is documenting you know uh you're i mean we're so used to documenting you know
through selfies and things like that.
But when you're experiencing something like that,
I imagine you're just kind of mesmerized and you're just like,
I don't want to take my eyes off this, you know?
Yeah, 100%.
Did you feel any kind of fear or anything,
or was it more curiosity?
It was curiosity until I started down the hill.
You know, I took those two steps.
And then I guess it was kind of a fear,
but more of like just something telling me not to do it.
I wasn't really afraid.
I just knew that I shouldn't.
Kind of hard to explain, I guess.
No, it makes sense.
I mean, that inner voice that kind of comes in.
People should start listening to that more often.
It might spare a lot of heartache.
I agree.
So that was, was that the first UFO experience you had?
Yeah, that was, I mean, that was the first anything I've seen firsthand.
I've always seen lights in the sky or whatever.
Weird things happening farther away than you can see.
Yeah, that was up close and personal.
Why don't you tell me about this other experience you had then with this other UFO?
Was it the same area?
No.
So that was up in North Idaho, a Coraline area.
So my friends and I were planning a getaway for my 21st birthday.
I worked with these two guys for a little over a year.
And, you know, they wanted to throw me a party, essentially.
So they started looking at vacation rentals in the area
and they found this cabin on the other side of Cordillan Lake
from where I live.
This place called Turner Bay.
So they came to me and they're like, hey, we want to get like 100 people together.
We're going to go up and have music.
They were both DJs, so they wanted to DJ and have this massive party.
They're like, hey, it's like $1,200.
you want to split it with us three ways.
We'll go up there and just have a good time.
Got it for a week.
So I was like, yeah, man, gave my portion of the money to my friend Chad.
And then they secured it probably a month and a half or so before my actual birthday.
Ended up being that nobody wanted to go to this.
And my friend Andrew that had planned the entire thing.
He backed out because his wife at the time wasn't comfortable with him going.
So about a week before that, it was just Chad and I and my girlfriend at the time that were going to go stay out there.
I asked my family if they wanted to come out and check it out because it was a pretty sweet little cabin in the woods, you know, just really rustic and had a fireplace and really secluded away from everybody.
So I ended up having my mom and her boyfriend come out there
And they hung out for a day or so
But
This experience happened
I'd say four days into this day
So it was the day after my birthday
My mom's boyfriend and I had gone to the bar the day before
And yeah
I probably shouldn't have been driving
But he was more drunk than I was
Anyway, long story short, we get back and I just passed out.
We probably didn't get home until 2.30 or so.
And the entire next day, I was just really hung over, ended up taking a nap for a few hours.
We got up.
They left.
And my friend Chad wasn't staying there because his girlfriend and kid were at his house
and he didn't want to stay in the night.
So he ended up coming over later that evening.
And we just kind of hung out, walked around in the woods, had a fire later that night.
And I guess that's kind of where it all started.
So we're sitting around the fire.
It's a little after 11.
And we were just talking.
I was talking about my neighbor and she had a bunch of health problems and just making small talk, I guess.
So I ended up talking about her cat at one point.
And I'm looking across the fire, you know, into the sky, basically, because it was pretty, you know, to actually see the stars instead of being in town.
And I saw this flash of light mid-sentence, and it was across the lake near a mountain, I'd say, I don't know, 25, 30 miles away.
So I just stopped mid-sentence
And
Chad and my girlfriend were just
staring at me, waiting for me to finish the sentence
And I just kind of got lost for a few seconds
And I was like, did you
Did you guys see that?
But they were both facing me
So they were like, no, didn't see anything
And I was like, huh, that was really weird
Just a flash over there
So we're sitting there
get back into the conversation
and my girlfriend at the time
she got up
and below us
like in that direction was the driveway
that kind of came up and wrapped around the fireplace
she was she walked over
and just walked around
looking while Chad and I were sitting there
talking
a few minutes goes by
and she's like hey do you guys see that
I was like I don't see anything
just you know black
she's like come here and look at this
So we both get up and go over there.
She's like, it looks like there's a light down there.
And we weren't close to anybody.
I guess the road was about a mile below us,
but it was on the other side of some trees.
I was like, oh, well, it's probably just, you know,
the dock light down there or something.
So sitting there, she's like, no, I think it's moving.
So we stood there for a couple minutes,
staring, trying to see if it actually was moving.
And then I guess it ended up looking like it was moving.
So I'm like, oh, that's really weird.
I was standing there for a while, just kind of watching it.
And then she's like, there's another one, maybe 10 feet to the left of it,
prospectively.
It was to say actually how far it was.
So we're standing there and we're watching these lights.
and I started looking around
and I saw a few more
up by the campfire
not near it
exactly there's a woodshed
probably about 50 feet away
to the north of us
and there's a couple of lights
up there too so
we're sitting there we're watching these lights
and I was like oh they're everywhere
I'd seen probably half a dozen just
surrounding us she's like
that's really weird because they were moving
you know kind of just like bobbing up
down through the woods.
So I was like, I'm going to go investigate.
I was like, you guys want to go with me?
And they just kind of looked at me and didn't say anything.
So I was like, all right, screw this.
I'm going.
I want to check this out.
So I go down this hill toward the initial light that we had seen.
And it was 150 feet to the tree line.
There's a little patch of earth.
go down the hill and I got to the bottom of it,
it kind of went up on the other side to another hill.
And as soon as I got to the bottom,
I kind of looked up the hill on the other side,
you know, trying to see if I could see it
because I thought that I was closer to it at that point
or it had to have been like right on top of me.
So I'm standing there in the dark
and just kind of staring, listening.
And that's when I saw it.
I'm looking up and around this tree, from around this tree, like, peaks this face, like,
classic alien face, but it was glowing, like a plasma blue, you know, and I could just see the
outline of it and the eyes, and it looks around at me. And I was like, are you freaking kidding
me right now? Is this actually happening? And then it kind of like goes back behind the tree.
and does this a couple times
because I don't know if it was just
like curious. I don't even know how it saw me.
It was pitch black and I'm standing there in the dark.
So it peaks around this tree a couple times.
And I started talking.
I was like
at one point,
I was like, we come in peace.
It was hilarious.
So it just kind of stands there.
You know, we're having this like stare down in the dark
and it was looking right at me.
But I was like, I want to get closer, you know?
I want to go check this out.
So I started walking up to hill.
And it was really close to me at that point.
I get up to where I swore it was.
And I had this little glowstick flashlight from Walmart or whatever.
Click on the light.
And I looked around and I didn't see anything.
There was just a bunch of trees.
And right in front of me, there's this stump.
So I sit down on the stump and turn the light off.
And I'm like, I'm going to just wait until I see the light again.
So as soon as I sit down and turn the light off, I heard a stick snap right behind me.
So I turned the light on, swing around, and didn't see anything.
I was like, well, that's weird.
I don't know what that was.
Anyways.
So turn the light off again.
Sit there and I lit up a cigarette.
So I was smoking Newport 100s at the time.
And anyone that smokes those know that they burn for a while.
You know, that's a 10-minute cigarette at least.
Yeah.
So I light the cigarette and I take a drag.
And then I put it down, you know.
Went to go take another drag and it was gone.
I just had a butt in my hand.
No cherry or anything.
Just empty.
So I was like, well, that's weird.
Not really thinking anything of it.
I lit another cigarette.
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My girlfriend at the time, she yelled down the hill.
She's like, my love.
And I was like, yeah, she's like, where are you?
And I was like, I'm right here.
She's like, you've been gone for a while.
I was like, I just came down here.
Like, I'm still trying to see what this is.
She's like, no, you've been gone like a really long time.
She's like, you should come back up here.
And I was like, okay.
So I hadn't seen anything.
Just kind of got over it anyways.
So stand up off this stump.
And I'm looking around and I ended up finding like a deer trail.
So I grabbed this trail and I start walking back toward the cabin.
And I don't know.
about 30 feet into the trail.
I heard this really weird noise.
Like I chalked it up to a mix between an owl and like a bear cub.
It's kind of like a guttural hooting, purring, I don't even know, sound.
So, you know, I was like, oh, that's freaky and started walking a little bit faster.
And this trail actually ended up going right up to the driveway.
So I get up to the top of the driveway.
And she's standing there.
And my friend Chad had come out.
So they're both standing there and they're like, hey, you should come inside.
Like, it's really cold out here.
It was maybe 55 degrees or something, but I was super warm.
I was like, no, I'm just going to sit here for a minute and see if I can see anything else.
So they were like, okay, well, we're going to go sit by the fire.
I was like, okay, cool.
So I sat there.
I finished my cigarette and then I didn't really see anything else.
So I decided to go back and sit with them, you know, by the fire.
Get over there.
And they decided they're going to go in.
One of them had to use the bathroom.
The other one was hungry or whatever.
I was like, okay, I'm just going to sit here for a little bit.
So they go inside.
I'm sitting there, you know, in awe still about everything that's happening,
looking out into the woods.
And looking like back at the trail where I was coming up.
And I saw lights again.
So I see two lights this time.
They're side by side.
and they start walking.
What I imagine was up the trail that I had just come up.
And so at this point, I'm like, oh my gosh, like, they're following me?
Like, what's going on here?
So I, like, yelled for them.
I was like, hey, you guys come out here, but they couldn't hear me.
I could see them sitting in the kitchen talking at the table.
So I just sat there, kind of watched these lights bob their way up the trail.
and then I expected to see them, you know, come up onto the driveway.
But they just kind of disappeared.
So I'm sitting there and I started hearing,
it sounded like a very small child, like, creeping on the driveway,
like walking like super stealthily.
Like you could just hear the gravel just like crunch, crunch.
And so at this point, I'm like freaking out.
I'm like, this is coming towards me.
So I sat there for another minute or so, like listening to it get closer.
And then I just decided that this was too much.
So I went in the house and I'm like, oh my gosh, you guys aren't going to believe what's happening right now.
And like I'm looking out the window toward the driveway.
You couldn't see anything.
There wasn't really any lights out there or anything.
So they're sitting at the table talking and I'm freaking out.
and I walk in to the kitchen and started explaining to them
and I look over at the clock and it's like 3.45 a.m.
And all of this started around 11.
So, I mean, I definitely was not outside sitting at the fire for three hours.
So I'm wondering like what happened.
And I was like, how long was I gone?
And they're like a really long time.
They said that they tried calling for me a few times and just got in,
answer until that final time.
So I'm freaking out.
I'm like, well, where did the time go, you know, and still looking out the window,
trying to see if I can see something and didn't see anything.
So the sun ended up coming up.
We went outside and sat around the fire, stoked it back up, and just kind of like looked
around.
Didn't really see anything.
they were talking.
I kind of walked into the woods a little bit,
see if I could find some footprints or something,
and it just,
there was nothing.
So,
I'm just kind of staying there.
And then I see this,
this sounds really weird and stupid,
but it looks like a little fairy,
I guess,
made out of,
like, a golden light,
just kind of, like,
floating up between these tree branches.
And it's like back and forth,
up toward the top of this tree.
And I was really intrigued.
I was like, what am I seeing right now?
So it takes a minute or so,
but it finally gets up to the top of the tree.
So I'm looking at it,
and the sun at this point is almost cresting the horizon.
Staring at it, and it disappears.
So I'm kind of staring at this point in the tree,
and that's when I see a light just come from
where I had initially seen that first flash of light, that direction.
And it was flying really low, a couple hundred feet above the ground.
And it was similar to what I had seen in California.
But the bottom of it was segmented into like a four-piece pie, essentially.
Like I can see a clear cross in the bottom of it.
And it just flew over really slow.
And so I yelled at them.
I was like, hey, you guys, look at this.
So we all sat there and watched it just kind of like cruise over us off into the distance
to where we couldn't see it anymore.
And my friend Chad was like, I got to go.
He was like, I got to go home.
And I could tell he was freaked out.
I was like, well, dude, don't you want to go investigate and stuff?
And he's like, no, I got to go.
He's like, just take pictures or whatever, you know, tell me what happens.
I was like, okay.
So we sat by to him.
We ended up going and eating some breakfast.
and warming up.
And then we went and walked around the woods later on, about an hour or two later.
So we walked down that trail, you know, the trail that I had found on my way back up,
and we're looking for footprints or anything and not finding anything.
You know, there was just like deer tracks and moose tracks and all sorts of whatever wild animals.
So we walked around for about 20 minutes
And I found some really weird charred
plants
Like there was a cluster of
Those little maple seed pods on this maple tree
But they were burnt
Like it looked like somebody had hit it with a flame tower
And I started noticing that there was a lot of just foliage
You know, around the trail
That was looking similar
It looked like it got burnt, like a fire just came through there.
But it was cold to the touch, and it wasn't ashy.
The plants were just, they looked like they had seen a lot of heat, you know, kind of wilted and tripled up.
So we're walking around, and I was taking pictures of everything that I thought was odd.
And I found a stump that had this, like, weird kind of bird-like giant plant.
claw mark in it or whatever.
And I was like, that's weird.
So then I walk a little bit further and there's a rock that had the same shape,
but it was like charred into it.
So there was that shape burnt into the rock.
And I was like, what the heck is going on here?
So I guess the easiest way to explain it would be like a two-taloned bird.
You know, there's like two fingers essentially to the front and one to the back.
but it was like flat on this rock and this stump.
And it was, I'd say about 16 inches long.
So we started looking around some more.
And I realized that that impression was in the mud also,
but it was not the full shape of it.
You know, just the two fingers or whatever in the front
and the one at the back.
And they were just holes, you know, consistently going up this trail.
And I stuck my finger in one.
And I'd say it was about,
four inches deep, like in all of the holes.
So I'm taking pictures of all this, and we heard a noise.
It sounded like somebody slammed the door on the cabin.
Like we were out of eyesight.
But there wasn't anybody out there.
You know, it was just us.
So like, oh, that's weird.
Like, well, let's just wrap this up and head back.
So we go back to the cabin and we're looking around.
I was looking for evidence that somebody had been there or whatever.
over and my girlfriend at the time she had walked up the stairs and she's like did you put these
here and I looked over and there was three flowers laying like little flowers not like store bought
or anything but laying like right in front of the screen door and we had been in and out several times
they weren't there so I thought that was kind of weird I don't know what the significance is
but that's that so yeah I mean we went the
entire day, he took a nap, and then ended up going back home. And I tried talking to chat
about it and he denies the entire thing like ever happened. He doesn't want to talk about it at all.
But my ex and I, we'd talk about it every once in a while. Even still, I think we just talked
about six months or so ago when I told her that I was going to be on the show talking about it.
just trying to corroborate the information again.
That's incredible. That's an incredible story.
I don't even know where to begin with that.
I mean, let me ask you this then.
I mean, you've had a lot of time to think about
what do you make of what you experienced that night?
I'm 100% behind the fact that it was extraterrestrial.
I don't know what else it could have been.
We went over several theories, you know.
she was like, oh, well, maybe some of the people that were supposed to be at the party that didn't show up decided to come out and mess with us, you know.
But this is the day after my actual birthday.
And there was not a lot of people that would, I don't know anybody, that would just come out and mess with us like that, you know.
But so we went over that theory.
And then we're like, oh, well, maybe it was a deer or something.
And I was like, what do you?
Like, I mean, we went over every possible theory that we could think of.
and there's just nothing that would even come close to explaining it.
And I mean, just the lost time thing.
Like, that's really weird too.
I've actually, I've been wanting to do like a hypnosis session since it happened,
but I just never found anybody or put that much effort into it.
Because I'm really curious to see what happened while that three hours elapsed.
Yeah, I mean, that's something that I'd be very curious to find out what happened.
because, I mean, you talked about, I think you said you were sitting on a stump or something,
you light the cigarette, and you hear something walking up behind you, right?
Yeah, just a single snap of a stick, like something stepped on it.
Man, that's, I mean, do you think there was an abduction scenario there?
Do you think that you were touched and just kind of like paused in time?
I have no idea.
I don't remember anything.
Like, in that gap, there's no gap.
It was just seamless from one minute to the next.
Man, dude.
And when you were walking, I think you were walking up a trailer,
so I mean, you were by herself,
and you actually saw that face come out from behind a tree.
Did you say it was glowing blue or something like that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was weird, like a weird plasma blue color.
What did the face look like?
Actually, I did a drawing of it.
I'll have to send it to you.
But so it was just like, I don't know, I guess,
classic alien gray shape
kind of like round on the top
can do like a pointy chin on the bottom
and then like I could see the eyes
illuminated also
and I had this weird like orange
inscription
just like a weird symbol
like on the head
I don't know
I guess it kind of looked like a
like a Chinese character
kind of just like weird lines.
I couldn't make anything of it.
I drew what I thought I saw to the best of my recollection
and just like paint on Microsoft.
So it's high quality.
All good stuff.
Man, dude, that is incredible.
And you were talking about the,
what was it?
Like it looked like almost like a bird had scratched into it.
Like, do you think that was some type of bird?
Or you think it was more like claws from these creatures that you saw?
I think it was something.
I mean, they were from the front toes to the back toes.
It was like 14 to 16 inches.
So I don't know any bird that's that big.
But the way that the head was bobbing kind of reminded me of like a bird.
You know, like when you see a cockatiel like bobbing its head.
Like that's kind of how it was moving.
in the darkness.
Like it was moving drastically, you know, like two to three feet up and then like down.
Man, it sounds like there was a lot going on that night.
And there's not a whole lot of answers as to what was going on.
But what you just described, there was so much stuff happening from actual sightings to
missing time to hearing things coming up behind you, finding proof later.
And you mentioned about.
seeing the plants and it was like they were charred.
Were they, they were cold to touch though?
Yeah.
Yeah, it wasn't like hot.
Like the ground wasn't hot.
I mean, it was pretty cold that night though.
So even if something had burned them, it probably would have cooled off by then.
But like there wasn't any ash or anything around.
And the plants that looked like they were charred weren't, I don't know.
I guess burnt.
Like if you burn a piece of paper, like you can tell.
like I guess the carbon comes off of it.
Like they weren't burnt like that.
It just looked like somebody hit him with like a heat gun or something.
That's interesting.
Yeah, when you were describing that,
I wasn't sure if you meant, you know,
because time had lapsed that it wasn't hot anymore
or if it was particularly cold, like ice cold.
Well, it wasn't cold.
But, you know, I just investigated to see if it was still warm.
See if something had burned them.
out of curiosity. Wow, that's incredible. How do you feel about the whole thing? I mean,
is it something that you know, you are going to pursue and get that regression therapy,
or do you think that eventually it's probably just going to fall by the side and it's just
going to be a story you tell around the campfire? Well, I want to. I was talking to a couple people
about it, a couple of my class friends. And I actually have a friend that has a friend that's a
hypnotist. And he started telling me about how, like, hypnotists can kind of, like, plant things
in your mind while you're under hypnosis. So I didn't really want to alter my memories, you know?
Like, I want to find a reputable hypnotherapist that's not going to be doing that. So I want, like,
a clean recollection as much as I can get, you know? Yeah, that makes sense. And I would be always
hesitant just because of that reason. I don't know what I'm getting, you know,
messing with my brain, that stuff makes me nervous. Yeah, no, same here. It's definitely
not, I don't know, not kosher for somebody to be able to tell you to collect like a chicken
when they snap their fingers and you do it, you know. That's a scary thing. Yeah,
for sure. Dude, I really appreciate you sharing these stories, man. Yeah, for sure. Well, that's a
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But first, they'll piss you off.
Bye.
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