The Confessionals - RELOADED | 405: Paranormal Military Encounters
Episode Date: July 3, 2023In Episode 405: Paranormal Military Encounters, we are joined by Nick from the Instagram account Tales From The Gridsquare! Using his Instagram account, Nick is archiving thousands of stories from mil...itary personnel who tell him about their bizarre encounters while out on deployment or stateside on military bases. Nick reached out to us after appearing on Sasquatch Chronicles and let us know he had many stories to share beyond the topic of bigfoot. He shares those stories with us on Episode 405, and even more on an Overtime episode.Become a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinCome Meet Tony:1. Smoky Mountain Bigfoot ConferenceTickets: https://bit.ly/3l1wZHR2. LIVE SHOW in Gatlinburg, TN!Tickets: https://bit.ly/3IC4IkxWatch Expedition Dogman: https://bit.ly/3CE6Kg0Tony's Studio Equipment: linktr.ee/mystudiogearSPONSORSGET EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase! Listen to this episode for more information! Link: bit.ly/3YaMD1NGET SIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGET Hello Fresh: hellofresh.com/confessionals60 Promo Code: "confessionals60" for 60% off plus free shipping!!!Get Emergency Food Supplies: www.preparewiththeconfessionals.comCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterSOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIDiscord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelAre you a military veteran struggling with thoughts of suicide?Contact Watchman Readiness Corps for REAL help. A veteran-run organization that is designed to help through hands-on survival training.Website: wrc.vetEmail: watchmanreadiness@gmail.comPhone: (214) 912-8714Instagram: wrc_survivalFacebook: colbywrcvet
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I guess it's time
To go back in time
Are you telling me
You built a time machine
Kind of a Dolorean
Time
Is but a stubborn illusion
I have a lot of memories
Of the past
People are time
traveling within themselves
Time travel
Is possible
Russian folk will talk about
These spirits
That basically try to
convince you to go walk into the bog and lead you to your death or swamps and stuff like that.
And so when you stopped at the peak bog, it seemed like when they caught up to him,
whatever was possessing him stopped.
I don't know.
It was really weird.
He said it was definitely an experience that left him shaken.
And he just, if I hear voices in the woods now, I just, when I started hearing stuff in the
woods again, he would turn around and leave.
This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed, but no one was supposed to talk about it.
I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear.
When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing up this giant.
With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast.
spears, Dan, holds him up like this.
Somebody else shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
Spurses, got splurster, got spursing, when he got about 15 yards away by his head on.
Feel something pulling at my leg.
And I look over and there are two small gray entities pulling it.
And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air.
Couldn't breathe and it couldn't move.
because I know I'm seeing a monster.
Okay, I reload it.
Yeah.
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And here we go.
This is the special intro right here that we're going with.
We got Creed and Jen back here in the studio.
And we're going to be talking about another trip that we're going to be doing.
Creed, how you doing, man?
I'm doing great, Tony.
Thanks for being here.
And, you know, we did a trip.
What was it, June this year?
It was June.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So by time people hear this, it's going to be June last year.
So this is going to air the first Tuesday of 2022.
But we did a trip in June last year.
and we went to the Burnbrai Mansion.
People loved it.
A lot of had a lot of fun.
And going into it, I was like,
I just don't know if people are going to really be into this.
And it sold out in what, like 24 hours or something like that?
It was fast.
It was a few days, but it was fast.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just like, well, I guess I was wrong.
And so we went and did the trip.
Because I remember when we sat down, I was like,
so if people don't, you know, respond to this, is that okay?
And you're like, yes, it is what it is.
It's good.
And I was just, I was overjoyed.
when so many people were interested.
And I know we have people who reached out and said that they want to be on a waiting list for the next one.
Right.
And so it's really exciting.
And we're going to be doing another trip here.
How many are we shooting for this year?
Probably about 20.
I think that's what we were shooting for last time.
Yeah.
20 is a good number.
Yeah.
No, actually, okay, I thought you were being sarcastic.
I meant trips-wise.
Not easy.
I was like, we're doing 20.
20 trips would be great.
We're going to do probably three this year, I think, for 20-22.
Yeah, we'll do three.
This is the first one in April.
We'll shoot for one in July and then in the fall at some point.
We'll pick up another one, I think.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
So you guys are the masterminds behind the trips.
I'm not that creative and I don't have got that kind of time.
So I'm glad you guys are doing it.
And since we did Burnbrae last time, we're not doing that again this time.
What's the first trip we're doing?
So we're going to go up to a place called the Shanley Hotel, which has a long and storied history.
It was first built in the early 19th century.
It's hosted a wide variety of people.
It was very elegant at one time.
And then at one time it was, you know, speakeasy, Bordello.
It's had gangsters that have stayed there, all kinds of infamous and famous people.
And some of whom have never left.
Perfect.
There's like 30, I think, spirits that occasionally make their presence known.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a high number.
And so when we were up at Burnbrae, people had some experiences, some supernatural experiences.
I expect certainly this time.
definitely have some as well. Yeah. And speaking of the supernatural experiences at Burn Break,
Cleet, if you're listening right now, you still got to email me so we can talk about what you went
through. Yeah. Cle's experience was rough. Yeah. It was a little, it was, I think his was really
sort of truly frightening rather than just, you know, sort of fun. But I mean, I know he told you
about it. And I visually saw it was rough for him, you know. And so, yeah, I understand. And he told me,
you know, it's hard to talk about and stuff. But, right. You know, if he wants to
Talk. I'll talk. That's what I do.
So we're going to be checking out that place. And it's like last time, all expenses included.
Yeah, it's a two-day trip. We'll meet everyone at the airport in Newark, whether they want to fly in or we'll get there on their own wheels.
That's where the bus will pick us up. And we'll head up to just outside of Sleepy Hollow, New York, which we all know, right?
Yeah, perfect.
And there's a great place there. There's a legend there, a woman named Holda called.
Holda the witch. And she, she was around in the 1700s. She was from Germany. She lived on her own. She was,
you know, good at herbal remedies, which of course was the only thing available then. And so the townspeople, you know, old woman by herself with a weird accident, they thought of hers as a witch.
Sure. But she's, you know, she's got a headstone in the cemetery in Sleepy Hall at the old Dutch Reformed Church. So we'll take a look at the actual place where she lived. There's actually a little sort of witch's cabin there, which is.
interestingly keeps getting, you know, if it deteriorates, somebody's rebuilding it, whether it's
HALDA or, you know, local hikers.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Nobody knows who's.
Really?
It's always sort of rebuilt.
So, wow.
That'll be an interesting thing, I think, to check out.
And it's right near a place called Spook Rock.
Okay.
Which, according to legend, there was a Native American warrior a few centuries ago, came across
these spiritual, ghostly sort of maidens dancing on the rock.
That was his encounter there.
And then so thereafter for many centuries, it was used as a sort of council place for Native American tribes.
So it should be some pretty interesting energy, I think, around there as well.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That's just our, you know, sort of early part of the day.
We'll have lunch in Sleepy Hollow.
So we'll get a chance to check out that town.
It's actually a really cool town.
And then we'll head relatively close by to New Paltz.
There's a street there called Historic Huguenot Street.
So the Huguenots were French Protestants who left France and the age of
religious warfare and they settled here quite early the houses all day to the 1600s and likewise
lots of interesting spiritual activities so we'll get a nice little tour of all the you know ghostly
occurrences that occur on this street yeah it's it's it's pretty cool um and then then we'll head up
um uh to the shanley it's in uh it's in the cat skills uh so we'll get a a chance to see the cats skills
the cats skills are really really pretty cool uh but we'll get into the shanley uh we'll be able to
stay there overnight and, you know, we'll get in and do our, you know, ghost hunting and have
our experiences should be, should be really cool.
Nice.
To stay in a haunted house overnight.
Yeah.
Just, you know, the last time we had the, the ghost, the paranormal team come in, are we doing
something similar to that?
Yep.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll have a, he'll take us around.
They'll, you know, we'll get the, you know, we'll do the EVPs.
And well, look, there's one ghost cat, too, called Sweet Thing.
So nice.
If nothing else, maybe we'll see a ghost cat.
Well, speaking to the YouTube channel, we have a video of a ghost cat on our YouTube channel.
People can check out.
Fun little video.
So there you go.
But you can preview ghost cats.
Yeah.
Just sleep with one overnight.
There we go.
But there's cool stuff.
I mean, you know, people have encountered, you know, mysterious clock chimes, cold and hot spots, whistling, you know, disembodied footsteps, you know,
disembodied footsteps, piano music, laughing children, the smell of cookie.
Like all kinds of, you know, sort of spiritual, ghostly, actually.
activities that that occur there in this story hotel. Yeah. So there should be no doubt that,
you know, there should be some some pretty interesting encounters there for sure.
Awesome. Yeah. And there's, you know, we get the whole whole hotel. So it'll just be our
group that's staying there. That's the best. Yeah. Like that's the best. I mean, like, we don't
have to worry about going in there. Like, if anybody listening right now, you're not going to be
going in there and there's going to be guest staying there. You feel a little awkward. Like,
you don't got to worry about that. You just, it's everybody who's there is there for the same
freaking thing. Exactly. They're all part of our group and we're all wanting to do the same thing.
So we can, you know, we have the run of the place all night. Wow. So we can stay, you know,
everybody can stay up as late as they want ghost hunting or, you know, whatever it is they want to do.
You know, there's, you know, some of the bedrooms, the most haunted rooms in the hotel, you know,
so we can kind of accommodate. You know, if you really want that supernatural experience,
we can put you in one of those rooms. Oh, okay. If you're not quite sure that's where you are,
we'll put you in a room that's purported not to have much.
Well, as far as I go, I'll see how I feel that.
day. I might be a little too tired, but also known as scared. If you really get freaked out,
there's hotels down the street. Oh, there you go. I'm sure I'll be fine. I mean, I'm sure I'll be
fine. We'll all be fun. Yeah, tough guys. So yeah, so 200-year-old mansion that will be, you know,
sort of getting to spend our time in. And, you know, then the next morning, of course, if people want to
talk to you about, you know, what their experiences are.
You know, maybe that might find its way onto a future show at some point.
Yeah.
I know last time we wish we had more time in the morning.
Do you know what the schedule will look like that morning yet?
Yeah, we'll have a little more time there.
We're not going to, you know, I think that was one of the things that we learned last time when we did this is that we do want, you know, people do want a little more time in the morning not to be rushed out or, you know, to be able to share their stories and so forth.
So we're definitely going to do that as well.
Yeah, we don't leave until like 11 or 11.30 in the morning.
Okay.
And then we head over to into the Catskills past, which is whole state forest.
Nice.
And into the historic Warwick Valley where we find ourselves at Silvio's Villa, which is an 18th century in home to travelers.
And it's got a long storied history and, of course, haunted as well.
So we'll get a little talk there about the history of the Silverwell.
and a good lunch too. That's always good. It's Italian.
Always good. So Italian, you know, lunch and, you know, mystery. It's always a good thing.
That's cool. Yeah. And so just to remind people, these trips are the prices all encompassing.
So, I mean, it's whatever you pay, that's for your housing. It's for your food on the trip. It's all that. You know, the bus trip, everything.
Yeah. Admissions is where we're going. You know, of course, the ghost hunting team that's coming in, you know, everything is included. So once you step on the bus,
with us the first morning to the time you step off the next day and the afternoon,
everything's included. You don't have to reach into your pocket for anything. So it's the same
price as we did before. It's $9.95 a person. That's all inclusive. So, you know, how you get to
the Newark Airport, of course, is, you know, up to each person. We don't know where everyone's
coming from. If you're going to fly in, as several people did last time, we can, you know,
you can make arrangements. We can help you with that. You know, I mean, Jen and I do run our tour
company. This is one of, you know, these tours that we do with Tony are some of the many that
we do over the years, each year. So we're perfectly capable of helping you get to, you know,
the pickup point at the Newark Airport. Yeah. So that's, you know, it's easy enough for us to do.
You just reach out to us and tell us what you need. We'll help you do it. Perfect. Yeah. And that's
the thing that I'm so confident with because you guys do this. I mean, if I was, if I was just saying,
hey, let's do this. I got this idea. Let's just go figure it out. It would be a mess. It would be a mess.
So I'm just glad that I got people that are, you know, this is what you guys do. And I'm really excited about round two.
here and you know you know if there's a good turnout we'll do a third one fourth one we'll just
keep going keep going uh there's no shortage of places we can go check out and stuff in this country
it's just an endless amount of places in fact what we're thinking about for july is a place up in
vermont called wilson castle freaking love it uh which is also very very haunted uh it's a real
castle it's a real castle it's a real castle yeah it's a real castle it's got real castle
history uh you know as much as you can in a country that's a few hundred years old rather than
many centuries, but it's awesome. And it's really cool. We have to do it in summer because it's not
heated in the winter. That's right. We were talking about doing it late this year, right?
We were going to think we thought about like, oh, we'll do it like November or early December.
We called them up. They're like, well, we don't have any heat. So we thought that might be able to
Chile. Vermont and, you know, January. Everybody's bringing their like space heaters on the
planes. I was really surprised last time. I mean, we had people from all over the country, Idaho,
California, people signing up.
Yeah.
Coming in.
It was just like Tennessee, Colorado.
Yeah.
You know, it was Rhode Island.
Way to guy from Philly come, which was right in the back.
He's like, that's easy.
Yeah, that was totally.
We left from Philly last time.
So that was really easy.
But yeah, we've had people from all over.
So it was great.
And we, I think everyone really that went really had a great time.
Yeah.
You know, we got really positive feedback and so forth.
So, you know, we always recommend, you know, with a trip like this,
travel insurance, because, you know, you always think it's not going to happen to you.
But the fact is, you know, with all the trips that Jenner
I run. It happens to someone on every single trip. So, you know, that's an important aspect. But
you know, give us a call. We'll talk about all this. And you cover all that stuff as far as like helping
them get all that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And that's the thing that people have to understand is that
from beginning to end, you guys are there to guide it. I mean, I'm in the middle of making some
life changes and I'm working with people. And they're just helping me walk through it and stuff to every
process of what we're doing here. So, you know, it's the same thing with this. I mean, you call. And
from that moment on, you guys are just helping the whole process along.
Yeah, from, you know, organizing, just, you know, getting on to be, to come on the trip to
anything you need to get there or, you know, we have people come in a day early.
We have people, you know, stay a day after, you know, it depends on flight schedules and
so forth.
But, you know, however much, you know, you want to stay or if you want to just get in and out,
we can do that.
So, yeah, whatever, you know, sort of logistical help you need and insurance, you know,
whatever, you know, we're good with all that.
Cool.
Yeah.
So, uh, if people want to do.
want to come, how do they contact you guys?
Excellent question.
Yeah.
So you can just give us a ring.
Our telephone number is 973-513-9-001.
You can email us at Travel Group Tours at AOL.com.
Yes, we still use an AOL address.
It's kind of horrifying, but it's stuck.
So you can either give us a call, shoot us an email, and we'll get in touch with you and get you all square away.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you're interested, go ahead and get a hold of them.
And the information, the phone number, the email will be in the description of this episode.
And I'm sure Lindsay will do a write-up on the website for the blog, too, over time here.
You said this was in April, right?
April.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's, and you can also check out our website, too, for all the details there.
Awesome.
Which is educatedwanderer.com.
That's, get you there.
And you'll see everything we do there, but you can specifically zero in on this trip.
But the trip title that you look for is the Confessionals on Tour.
The spirits are in.
That's what's the name of the tour.
That's cool.
In, I and N, in.
Did you come with that, Jen?
Oh, really?
The spirits are in.
Perfect.
Perfect.
And the dates of the tour specifically are April 8th to the 9th.
Okay.
So that's helpful to know.
Awesome.
Sounds good.
Go ahead, guys, and contact them.
And if you have any questions, I would direct them towards them.
So just get them directly because more than,
And likely, if it didn't cover it on this little conversation, I probably don't know.
So just reach out to Creed and Jen and they'll take care of you.
So go ahead.
We'll email you the full write-up of all the details.
So you'll know exactly what you're in for.
Perfect.
You know, at least physically.
I can't talk about spiritually.
But we'll do our best to get that for you to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, enter at your own risk kind of thing.
Exactly.
All right.
So today we got Nick coming on the show today.
And he started an Instagram account.
about a year ago. And during that time, he started recording military encounters with the paranormal
crypto zoology and everything in between. And he comes on today for an overtime show.
So this is a public show. And then we have a whole other hour segment for members only on the
website. But he's going to be sharing all these different military stories that he's gathered
over the year or so where these military men are coming forward and sharing what they experienced
in the field. And more importantly, in this country on military base,
is a lot of weird things happening and he talks about it all today. So let's get to Nick right now.
All right. Today we got Nick on the show. Nick, what's going on, brother?
How's going, Tony? Thanks for having me on today. Thanks.
I've been listening to the confessions for a while now and now I'm finally on the show.
Man, I'm glad you're here. You contacted me a few months ago and we've been trying to work this out and
stuff. You were on my buddy's podcast, Asquatch Chronicles, sharing some of these stories.
And you have a ton of stories and you wanted to share it more on this show.
and I was like, sounds good to me, bro.
So you run an Instagram account called Tales from the Grid Square.
Let people know about the Instagram account, how it came about, and what did you do with it?
Yeah, so I'll just start off by saying.
So, yeah, I am still in the military.
I'm not going to give too many details, but I got to put this disclaimer out.
So anything I say on this show is not reflective of the U.S. military.
Sorry, guys.
I'm also just a boring logistics guy.
I'm not a cool special forces dude.
So if you want to know where all the hidden secrets are in the United States,
I'm the wrong guy to talk.
Well, I won't give the answers, but we can talk all day about it.
That's what they all say, though.
So now you just put a target on your back,
and I'm going to be grilling you now because you just put a target on your back.
I know you're lying.
They know you're lying.
Enjoy the ride, Nick.
Enjoy the ride.
No, thank you, Tony.
But, yeah, I know.
So I've always had an interest in paranormal kind of stuff,
cryptids, ghosts, everything like that.
I had some experiences that we'll probably talk about later.
But like all good things, it kind of started as a drunken idea.
I was drinking one night, and I had kind of like some experiences in the military.
And I went to JRTC previously, which for those I don't know,
JRTC is the Joint Readiness Training Center in Fort Polk, Louisiana.
And I kind of had like some weird experiences there.
And just talking to other people who had been there and hearing their weird experiences.
kind of in one night after a couple of beers, I had this great idea, like, why don't
when I start this Instagram page? And I kind of came out about from there was in the, there's
military meme pages, I guess the best way to describe them, like of every niche.
You know, if you, there's medics, there's, there's a medics meme page. If there's, you know,
tankers, it's a tankers meme page. But two of these pages got a deal like way back when COVID
started when people basically going to lock down, they were going to do like ghost stories.
and I thought I was surprised about how many,
they would post them on their story.
And so, like, they weren't,
it wasn't like how I happen on the page now,
but, like, they're the ones that started it.
And I was surprised about how many people
were coming forward with these stories.
And everything from, like, ghosts to creatures
to stuff in combat, stuff in the barracks.
Like, I was like, huh, that's really fascinating stuff.
So fast forward by a year and a half later,
you know, I finally get the idea.
Like, there's really, they did it like as an event during COVID.
I was like, there's really no page.
that collects all these.
So why don't I make something like that?
And I was just thinking because for the most part,
like in the regular world,
yeah,
you don't want people to think you're weird or crazy, right?
But like in the military,
like, you know,
if I hear voices behind me,
I turn around there's no one there,
do I really want to say something?
Because people may think like mentally,
maybe I'm not there.
And that's not to say that there's anything wrong with that.
But, you know,
there's an extra added layer,
I think, in the military,
in all militaries,
about like kind of talking about the weird and I guess the woo if you want to say it.
You know, because you don't want people think you're crazy.
Because people think you're crazy, they're just not going to trust you.
So I was like, well, let me, what have I created a page where people could dam me their stories?
I'd repost him anonymously, kind of like cut out all like any identifiable information except for what they want.
So I try to leave it like maybe a very vague like unit.
So like a brigade, which is huge to like just a time.
frame being like a year, right? Unless, unless they want it that way. They want like more detail.
Some people just want themselves, like, credited. That's fine. But that way, it's like, hey,
I believe your stories. Like, I want to hear your stories and we'll keep it like anonymous.
And so maybe people will come and comment and say, like, hey, I saw the same thing. You're not
going to be alone. So I started it. And then I started getting like people coming in. Yeah, like people
are coming forward with like some very crazy stories and not just like oh i saw something in the barracks
like you know oh i saw bigfoot in the training ceremony center i saw a ghost woman standing on the bridge
out at you know camp schwaub in okinawa like very a lot of people coming forward and so the page really
took off and it really took off thanks to saskatch chronicles too going on there i was able to get
a ton more veterans on there and i'm always trying to get more followers to the page doesn't really
benefit me, but what it does benefit is the more people I can find, the more people I can
like troll through for stories. And, uh, you know, hey, have you ever seen a UFO? And sometimes
I'll get like 10 stories that same day about people I've seen like UFOs. Um, and it's just
trying to connect that bridge between like, hey, I'm in the service. You're in the service. Like,
we have that shared, we have that shared experience. Like, tell me what you want to tell
others, but you feel like you can. Yeah, that's, I mean, I, I know, I know.
from five years of podcasting doing this stuff, it's hard to get military guys to talk. And so to have a guy
that's in the military asking for the stories, I'm sure helps a lot. You know, because like when
Charlie was on my show for episode 122, he still says things to me that go way over my head. I'm like,
bro, I don't know what you're talking about. And he has to break down like the terminology and
things because whenever we're talking to stuff, he's like, he says things I just don't get. And so
But there's an automatic gap in the way you can communicate with one another where it's not the case when you're in the military.
Yeah.
I'll put the one caveat to that to those stories.
I tell people, like, if you're going to violate obsec or some type of NDA that you have signed, do not school me the story.
Like, the best thing we need is for you to talk about stuff you're not supposed to.
And I'm not trying to post government secrets on an open source intelligence.
website. So that is
that is the one thing. Most of these stories
are, you know, from people
regular Joe's. I don't get many
like I said, I don't got a lot of cool guys in here, but I got
just the regular conventional guys like me
telling these stories.
You got to start living on the edge, brother.
You got to start living on the edge. You're planning it too safe.
Not quite yet, Tony. Not quite yet.
I got you. Listen, if you keep this page
going and stuff, and if you ever get out of the
military, whenever that day comes and stuff,
man, you could have a fun, fun time in the next chapter of that page's existence.
Yeah, there's definitely days.
I, like, come across things and I'm like, hmm, or people tell me things.
And I'm just like, I really want to dig into this more or like, you know, sometimes I will share stuff,
but I will significantly cut down details on purpose to like make it very vague.
Yeah, you got to protect yourself on that stuff.
I get it.
I totally get it.
So, all right.
Let's start talking about some of these stories and stuff.
So just to let the audience know what we're getting into, you know, I did a giant of
Candahar Horror story with Elie Marzuli back when I first started.
I think it was like episode 18.
I was like shell shocked when I reached out to him and like within an hour or two, he reached
back to me.
And he's like, sure, I'll come on.
I'm like, but I'm a new podcast.
I'm not going to tell him a new podcast.
I'm just going to go, you know?
I was stunned.
So I was like shell shocked when I had to talk to the guy.
But he did hit on the Candahar Giant.
and he actually is in the intro.
So a lot of times people over the years have asked me about the Kandahar giant stories and
stuff.
And I'm like, well, you got to go all the way back to episode 18.
Sorry in advance for the audio quality.
And so, but we're going to do that.
And we got some paranormal stuff, some Russian military, some Iraqi stuff.
The Afghan Skinwalker.
I'm very interested in hearing about that.
And even down to like Colts, like an occultic kind of story coming out of Iraq.
So we're going to be kind of jumping all.
over the place of stories that you've collected. And you have a, we talked about this before.
You have a great order of things as of right now as far as what we're going to get into here.
And so we're going to keep it in the order you have it. I want to let everybody know right now,
this is going to be an overtime show and a member show week with Nick here. So this is the first
hour. The second hour is going to be an overtime right after this. You can listen to the
overtime segment with more of Nick's personal stories that he has had. And then later in the
week, we're going to have him back for a members episode where we're going to go into more
stories from his page. He's got that many friends. So it's definitely an Instagram page to
check out if you haven't done so already. Tales from the Grid Square. Nick, I hand it over to you,
my friend. Let's start off with the Kanda Harh Giant. Sweet. All right, Tony. So this is probably
my favorite story from the page just because it is the only story I've ever gotten. That's
even close to the story of the Giant of Kandahar. And I fully believe this individual,
this individual fully believes what he saw.
So I'll start off just to phrase it.
So before I start the story, it is actually in the Koonar province of Afghanistan.
So it's not exactly in Kandahar, but it's in a similar kind of area.
So let's start this story.
All right.
I was deployed as an infantry team leader with the Army in the Kuhnard province of Afghanistan from 2008 to 2009.
One night we set up on an observation patrol to overlook a village that was suspected IADs were coming out of.
Due to a successful IED recovery, we had done a few years.
weeks prior. My LT gave me a new thermal imaging system called the recon three that none of us
were familiar with and told me how told me to figure it out so I can pass along the information
to the other team leaders. That's a classic, classic army statement. Yeah, we don't know how to use
this figure out. I started messing with the recon three to see its capabilities and was surprised
at the clarity of the zoom on it. I spent most of my time messing with different functionalities
and watching the village. I started to look across the valley to see what I could see and they let me
look along the spur we sat in on and saw a very large heat signature at the top of one of these
false peaks. I did everything I could to get as clear as clear as images as I could, suspecting
was a group of Taliban huddled together around the light, as they tended to do in the mountains.
All of a sudden, this heat signature stood up as one being. The trees in that area grew up to 10 to 12
feet tall, and this thing was at least as tall, if not taller, than the trees that surrounded it.
It started taking steps parallel to my position, and it was covering ground quickly with ease.
its stride was slow and relaxed, yet it moves with incredible speed.
That led me to believe that whatever I was seeing this creature or not was gigantic.
It very quickly traversed the landscape, and I lost sight of it along a neighbor and spur.
I did not believe what I saw initially, assuming that I had imagined it.
I had never seen anything like it in my life, and I didn't really tell people about it while I was in,
even when I got out.
I kept that story to myself, thinking that there was no way I saw what I saw.
But then in 2010, I listened to a story on coast-to-coast, specifically the story about the giant of
Kandahar. And that made me
made all the memories of my time and service come flooding
back and made me consider other things I saw during that
deployment. For instance, the creature
was described as having fire orange hair
reminded me of a tradition the locals in the area
would do. They would dye
their hair bright orange color and even dye
some of the goats the same color. They never
gave an explanation why they would do this
and it seemed like they would do this every once
in a while and then all of a sudden those dyed goats
would be gone and the local's hair would no longer be dyed
orange. I assume that it was maybe
a cultural thing I didn't understand
but now it makes me wonder if that was some kind of gesture to the creature, Nephilim,
or the goats were sacrificed to it.
I am a Christian in the Bible briefly discussed the men of renown,
aka the Nephlem.
I think that's what I saw.
A member of an ancient range of giants descended from fallen angels,
or it could be something like a Sasquatch.
I'm not sure.
That's really interesting.
The way you were describing that story to begin with,
I thought I had heard this one already from the actual person,
but it's a totally different story.
So it really, this is something that military guys over there have seen.
Like I said, I've talked to somebody, it's never been on the show, but I've talked to
somebody who was looking through night vision down into a valley.
I guess they were observing a town or something.
And they saw some kind of giant running out of the town.
And he covered thousands of feet within like a matter of a minute, just shot right up into
the mountains.
And so I thought you were kind of going with that story.
I was like, oh, crap, I know exactly who this is. And it wasn't him, though. So that's really
interesting. So what do you make of the whole giant, the giant stories coming out of the
Middle East? I mean, before you started doing this stuff, is that something that you kind of were
interested in? Yeah. So actually, believe it or not, and I wish I could find the book. When I was a
kid, I had this, like, this old bound book, I think it might have been for when my dad was a kid,
but it was like great mysteries of the world or something like that.
Unsolved mysteries of the world.
And there was a whole chapter about giants.
And talking about how my brother and I were fascinated with this.
And this was like kind of like to a little hobby of ours looking into it.
But basically, like, you know, the whole story.
People, the native tribes tell stories of fighting giants that ate people and they wiped them out.
And when the settlers came in and they started moving into the native lands, they started finding giant skeletons.
and like, hey, like, there's these massive seven-night-foot-tall skeletons in North America.
And then the Smithsonian comes and kind of collects them all, and then they kind of disappear from public eye.
And so the story, you know, and I'm finding out, looking into that, that's kind of like, that was more information on that.
I don't know.
I think maybe, shoot, I could believe it.
Maybe different subset of humans, I don't know, like maybe in Afghanistan, people have told me I've never been deployed to Afghanistan.
But I've talked to people who have, and I've talked to people that have lived there.
And they've told me that there's places that even Afghans have not even gone to yet.
Mountains, like, so deep and valleys so hidden away that, like, you could put a whole village in there.
And you would never know.
And in fact, a good example of that is another Sasquash Chronicles episode previous to mine.
A gentleman goes on the show and he talks about going to a village in Afghanistan that is so detached from the rest of the world that, you know,
they thought the ocean was a myth.
They thought it was made up.
Like a joke.
That's amazing.
Or that when a plane flies overhead, they call it an X because they don't know what it is.
So I don't know.
I think it could be possible, especially like someplace like Afghanistan, to have something just hidden out there.
Yeah.
You know, I have some people that I've obviously been in connection with over the years that have been in Afghanistan or were deployed in Afghanistan.
And I've been told that there's a section of.
of Afghanistan that does connect to China.
It's like a 30-mile section of border.
National Park, right?
Yeah.
And I've been told that he was told by locals that there are giants up there,
and that's why nobody goes up in there.
And it's interesting.
It's interesting.
And, you know, it just makes you wonder what's going on and why, like you mentioned
about the Western world kind of thing.
It makes you wonder what the differences are.
between cultures that makes a government want to cover up such information if they were.
I know you can't go too deep on things here, but I will.
So, no, I was talking to dark waters, and I can't remember this was the public segment or
the overtime, but he talked about a giant in the swamps of Louisiana.
And the swamps of Louisiana, when the storm came through, cleared out a section where,
people for the first time could go back on boats and it was a whole new fishing game game area
and um there was this report that came out that there was like some giant being as tall as trees
watching from the shoreline and so there's definite rumors and that's just one story there's definite
stories coming out of uh united states of america of people seeing giants not bigfoot giants
and it just it makes you wonder like how do they hot like like like you want to if you're
curious about how bigfoot hides like how do you how does a 20 foot tall giant humanoid hide like
how is that how is that even possible you know and so uh but then then again when you start getting
way like so so many i'm fairly convinced that most of the people that listen to my show west's show
Dark Water Show, that they, most the people, I'm not saying everybody, but most people, I believe,
don't really live in areas that are super vastly rural.
And you just can't comprehend how vast some of these spaces are.
I couldn't comprehend how large the Daniel Boone National Forest was until I went there.
And I was stunned that when I saw a sign on the highway saying,
saying, welcome to the Daniel Boone National Forest.
I looked at how long I had to drive.
And it was like an hour still to get to the point of where I was going into Daniel Boon.
And I was just like, you've got to be kidding me.
And so in those kind of moments, it makes you really realize that, you know, it's,
there's a lot of space out here still.
So who knows what could be hiding.
Yeah, I definitely think somebody, I read somewhere, how many times have you, like BlackBerry
is one of those common animals in North America.
how many times have you seen you a dead black bear on the side of the road or a dead black bear in the middle of the woods?
You know,
things that know what humans are and know how to hide,
like will never be found by us,
especially if you go in the woods trying to find them and not hunt them, I think.
I think that's,
you'll never find these things.
Yeah, I agree.
Well,
I'm going to be hunting them.
So it is what it is.
I'm not kidding.
You can count me in on that.
Whenever I get back to the actual mainland.
I hear you.
I hear you.
So let's move on to the next one, man.
Okay, so this next story here is in Iraq.
And it covers an individual who was an Abrams crew member in two deployments, one in 2003 and one to 2006.
Okay.
So the first one is Samara Iraq, 2003.
I had participated with the invasion of Iraq back in 2003 as an Abrams crew member in the U.S. Army.
We marched all the way north to Missoule
and then turn around ahead of back to Samara
where we finally set up a permanent fob.
Near Samar, there are these incredibly ancient ruins,
the spiral minaret and the golden mosque,
later destroyed by Isis.
These ruins were the best, though.
They were always, even though I was never able
to actually walk through them and check it out,
we patrolled nearby to make sure everything was quiet,
and it was just really cool to look at.
One time, filling in to the gunner's position,
we were scanning the ruins at night
to look for any obvious hot spots of insurgents.
Some of the stones in these ruins still retain residual heat from the hot sun,
and they would produce like a glow on our RIR, so we had to be careful.
This only happened a few times, but it was reported by several tank crews,
as well as our scouts with their LSR trucks.
Oh, I'm sorry, LRS trucks.
But sometimes when scanning the ruins, there are these cold spots that would move through the ruins,
and in between the burial sites and the nearby mausoleum,
these would show up clear day on our powerful main gun sites,
but there were no bodies, objects, or anything like that.
just these incredibly cold spots in the air
moving around slowly through the ruins
moving in front behind stones
and it was the weirdest thing
I ever saw on that deployment
and we still never really got an answer
what was going on.
Now that was,
you gotta think about that too
like on an Abrams tank
like those thermal sites
are super powerful.
So like,
I mean, this is so powerful.
It's like I think it's top secret
like some of the capabilities
to, you know,
but like if they're picking off something on those thermals,
there's definitely something there.
Okay.
All right, so the second story is the same individual.
He's in Taji Iraq, 2006.
So I was a tank commander on an M1A2 at SEP main battle tank.
So that's kind of a newer model tank.
And my platoon and I, four Abrams, were spread out along 1,000 meters on MSR, Tampa,
to keep an eye on convoys.
It's probably about three in the morning and I have the entire crew getting some sleep
while I stay up monitoring the thermals and the cameras.
Well, doing a routine scan, I see a light in the sky that's brighter than anything else I can see that night.
It pops up on the CITV, and I see it with my own eyes.
I have the tank running on battery power, so there's no noise from the turbine,
and the CITV doesn't require hydraulic, so it's also silent.
Whatever this thing was, it made no noise.
Hovered in place probably 300 to 400 meters out, and moved around just a bit, and it took off super fast.
I never really felt threatened by it, just super curious.
This was 2006, so personal drones weren't really a thing in small Iraqi villages.
And the only drones we had at the time were incredibly loud,
couldn't really hover in place.
I talked to my platoon about it.
No one else saw anything.
I talked to up to being a lack of sleep, stress, and dehydration.
It could be right, but it certainly seemed real to me, whatever the hell it was.
So, I mean, did he come short of saying it was a UFO?
He did, but he's like, I don't know what I saw, but another story that I was able to
get from people in the same time, people saw the black triangles in Iraq, you know, whatever.
And I know that's black triangles are a common thing.
And I know, I think there's a, I haven't seen it yet, the JJ Abrams documentary, a UFO, but they talk about like the, you know, the orbit, airship to orbit program.
I don't know if you're familiar with that.
Not really, no.
So it's basically like, the gist of it is the government may have allegedly created these like supersonic airships.
Basically like they're like, they look like a giant wedge shape, like the, the, the, the,
the triangle. And they kick on engines and they can go supersonic speeds and they kick them off and
they can float silently because they're an airship. And apparently these things were, according to
the documentary, they've been operating for a while. And so I've always wondered, like,
maybe we had those things out there in Iraq. I don't know. I don't know what an airship
that can go supersonic speeds and into space would be of use to the military, but I can only
guess. A few years ago, I did a whole video on, and it's on YouTube,
it's probably buried, but you got to look for it.
But there's like these pyramid-shaped UFOs popping up in D.C. over the Pentagon.
Yeah.
And what was interesting about that was it was caught on video by several different people.
Like there's a group of guys in a car driving by the Pentagon and they recorded it.
There was another guy in Arlington Cemetery who I had on the show who recorded it.
Like this was something that actually happened, caught on video.
And it makes, like at the time, I was saying,
thinking, you know, either this is 100% real and something's going on and nobody's even talking
about this, or it would be a hologram, which is another thing that I started thinking about,
because there's also video, and I don't know why they did this, but there was a video that came out
not too long ago of AOC. It was a hologram of her crying. There's a famous picture of her
crying at the border wall from years ago, and they took the picture of her crying and made it a
hologram above the Capitol building.
And that was caught on video too.
And I don't know why they did that.
I mean, but it's certain to show that there's the capability that they have to do such
things.
And so I don't know if the pyramid that I had featured was real or if there's a hologram.
I don't know.
But when it comes to it popping up all over the world, then it makes you really wonder,
it seems like these things are probably pretty real.
Yeah, no, I, I've definitely been paying attention to the UFO side of this recently.
And I think maybe people are more open to it or maybe they're just seeing more.
But it's definitely interesting, especially with the U.S. Navy coming out and saying, like, yeah, there's, well, now it's unknown aerial phenomena in the sky.
And we don't know what they are.
Oh, also known as UFO.
Yeah.
You guys need to stop making up new names for stuff we've been calling for years.
I mean, what is wrong?
It's the military.
We love new acronyms.
What the heck?
I find it super fascinating, yeah, because, like,
even here in Hawaii about a year ago,
there was, like, a big UFO sighting on the western side.
And it was after New Year's.
And so if you don't, it's never been to Hawaii in New Year's,
fireworks are illegal, and, like, the whole sky is lit up with fireworks.
Like, literally, like, I don't think if you're an aircraft,
you want to fly anywhere in Europe because there's that many.
But after the fireworks had stopped, people reported seeing this, like,
big blue orb of light in the sky moving around.
And, you know, it's just finding funny because after like, now there's this uptick in sightings
out of sea and like, you know, back people, all over the world, people seeing stuff.
I always wonder, like, maybe are we just paying more attention or is it like increasing?
I find this stuff super fascinating.
Yeah, it's hard to gauge which one of that it is.
But the ones that are popping up out of sea and stuff, I think really start pushing to
the idea of them coming from underneath the water.
I mean, I've talked about it before in the show.
I have pictures of one coming out of the water.
It was going super fast.
The guy got it on video.
And so I have three still pictures of it shooting from the water into the sky.
And it's something shot out of the water.
And so it just, you know, and then when you have, what, 95% of the earth's water is unexplored.
I mean, it's a lot of space to hide whatever you want in there if you have the ability to.
And then there's also you have to just also, I know it's like the not popular theory,
but technology in itself is something really incredible and how fast it moves.
I mean, I think China just tested like some hypersonic missile, I think, last yesterday or something like that.
But like the level of technology that we see now, besides what's going on behind the scenes, I'm sure is like a 90-day difference.
Sorry, people, I don't know what you're talking about.
I still have vehicles from like built in the 70s.
So, you know, I haven't seen anything.
But I could imagine that technology behind the scenes,
is much more advanced that we have now.
And I think I even saw, like, patents from all sorts of militaries to do, like,
drones that can go in and out of the water at random.
So I was wondering, like, what's scarier?
There's UFOs out there.
We have technology that is so advanced.
It makes, you know, the F-22 look like a toy plane.
Yeah.
I mean, if that's the case, then I just want to make sure we have that technology.
Yeah.
You know?
but yeah I
you know I talk to a guy
and when I'm done talking here
we'll get back to the stories
but I just I want to say this
that years ago I was doing delivery
and I talked to a guy who
used to be an engineer in the military
back in the 60s and he told me this is probably
four three
four years ago he told me the technology we have today
they had back in the 60s that they were
they were working on developing it back then
and so he just told me
He's like, man, the government has far beyond the technology that we can even imagine right now.
And so it was kind of interesting to hear from somebody who was an engineer in the military designing, like, the night vision that we have today accessible to civilians.
He's like, we had that way back then.
Like, that's just the way it works.
Oh, yeah.
No, yeah.
It's interesting when you start thinking about it.
Yeah.
All right.
Before I get you in trouble, though, let's move on to another story.
All right.
Okay.
So this next story is the next two are going to be from Vietnam.
So I got this story a while back, and I liked it because it reads like something out of apocalypse now.
So this individual, his father was in Vietnam, and this is the story that his dad has recounted to him.
So it goes like this.
So my father was in Vietnam and saw some crazy shit.
One base he was on, which he won't tell me the names, it's no longer there.
He doesn't want me to try and look it up and accidentally end up on a watch list was the sweetest.
assignment. My dad had to work in an office, fixed copiers, printers, or whatever random nonsense
equipment and admin paper that they had. He said he got picked to be sent there and it was like an
easy assignment for him, so he didn't complain. It's a small base with about 100 other guys.
All sorts of people that, again, were picked out to be stationed there. They used to come up with
stories and jokes about why they were sent there, but it was cool at first and they would party
and have fun, typical old school army shenanigans. My dad worked on a crew with about 12 to 15 other guys.
and what they had to do was they had to sort through paperwork.
Now, none of the papers made any sense.
The only way they could sort through them was by a number at the top.
Some of the things on there were like the types of a certain flower.
And some didn't make any sense at all.
Like they were just word vomit.
They would get boxes and boxes of these paper to sort through every day through a big truck.
They didn't have a quota or really anyone telling them what to do.
So they usually work just the standard six to eight hours.
They would call it quits for the night.
And around two months in, they would start to experience things that would become a regular phenomena.
my dad said that he would wake up in the morning
and everything in his room would be shaking
like he was in the middle of an earthquake.
When he went outside, everyone was looking around.
My dad asked a few guys what they were looking for
and one of the guys, one of the guys said
that they saw something big flyer of the base.
My dad thought maybe it was a bomber or something.
So he brushed them off.
After that, they had regular earthquakes
to the point that they couldn't react anymore.
And then they wouldn't react anymore.
At night, they started to see lights and colors
flash outside their windows and they would hear noises
as if they were outside alone night or day.
a few guys got spooked and would eventually request to be reassigned.
One by one, the guys were usually chillingly back would start to snap and become panic shells
with themselves, just overall paranoid and just high strong.
One night, my dad was outside when he hears what sounds like running,
like someone fool sprinting, but like all around him, like things, like people just running
all around him.
Like it was everywhere he looked, but it was just missing just by that split second what he
was seeing, like going around a corner.
He tossed a cigarette away and began to walk.
He started to hear what sounded like a squeaking voice behind him, and it began to fill him with a pure dread.
More than anything he has felt in his life, like he knew he was about to die.
Luckily, he tossed a cigarette. When he tossed the cigarette, it was caught into a patch of dried grass and it caught it on fire.
He snapped out of it once you saw the fire spreading and ran to grab a fire extinguisher.
But when he came back, it was daylight and people were out looking for him.
He had been missing for four hours, but it felt like minutes to my dad.
Not long after another guy went crazy instead of building on fire.
big trucks showed up and my dad and the others
left that base.
My dad was a bit of a shithead in the army
and decided that he would go AWOL
and a few others with a few others
and they would try to find that base again.
But when he said he reached the area,
the entire place was an overgrown field.
Like nothing had ever been there.
My dad couldn't explain it,
but he remembered everything clearly.
In the following years, everyone who he spoke to
to couldn't tell him anything about that base.
Just my dad and a handful of others
that were with him could remember.
That's trippy. That is tricky.
Like, just like, what?
It goes like, it's, yeah, I don't know.
The individual who was here thinks that either his dad is,
he doesn't believe his dad was making it up.
He thinks his dad is being 100% true.
He thinks that his dad was involved in some type of like,
I don't know, wandering soul, have you ever heard of that?
No, I don't think so. What is that?
Yeah, so it was a kind of a vague operation of Vietnam done by,
the psychological warfare basically
and it was to
they did some stuff to basically
to wage psychological warfare
against, you know, the
the Viet Cong and the NBA
and there's kind of vague details
in how they did that and so
the idea is that maybe
you know, there's no results to it too
this is all from I read on a Wikipedia article
but there's people that think that they were doing
other stuff like experimenting on other people
and you know,
mean, like trying to maybe like introducing LSD or something into like water just to see like how
people would react to see how they could use that.
I don't know.
Or he thinks his dad was like on a base and we're getting messed with by like aliens and stuff
like that.
Well, it's weird that he, when he got back to where the base was at one point, it was just a field.
I mean, he didn't mention that his dad saw, you know, tire marks or, you know, spots where you
could see where a building was at one time.
it was a field.
Yeah, maybe it makes me think that maybe it was all in his head.
Or if you want to get trippy with it, that his dad didn't know what he was involved in with
the military, but whatever they were doing was accessing, maybe they had access to a parallel
dimension that they were putting the soldiers into, not that his dad accessed it,
but they was put into it.
I'm just saying, like, listen, Nick, I, I,
I'm just saying, I can't get you in trouble, but I'm just saying, like, there's a lot of weird things that come out over the years, you know, like the idea of the Philadelphia experiment, you know.
And so my uncle was in studio and he said that the Philadelphia, and he was in the Navy for 20 some years.
The Philadelphia experiment, absolutely 100% real.
But what Hollywood has made it is not real.
And so, you know, I don't know.
I'm just saying it seems like if his dad's telling the truth that his dad, how do you explain it?
How do you explain it?
I could just see it now.
Hey, private, I need you to.
You're going to go into this parallel dimension.
Don't touch the fabric of reality because it can unravel everything.
Listen, if I could have time talking to his dad, I would ask engaging questions as to how he got to where he went.
tell me where you were and then where you got to and a step by step process of there.
And you start pulling at the threads to see if there's anything that, you know, as people
say things that you're like, you question on it and then gets them thinking like, yeah,
you know what?
That was a little weird, you know?
And you start trying to figure it out.
But if that thing was never there when he went back, it looked like it just was never there.
than either he and the rest of the guys just were tripping on LSD
and they all had the same memories
or something really bananas bizarre went on.
And we're not supposed to believe in those kind of things.
Yeah, I don't know.
I can also believe the U.S. Army just, you know,
oh, we found a tear in the fabric of society.
We're going to put a base here.
Right.
Where's the base go?
If there is a pace of in hospitable lander, you know,
Oh, yeah, this lane is haunted, but it's cheap.
Oh, yeah, we're putting a base there.
And then all the weird stuff starts happening.
Yep.
You know, hey, that's very likely, right?
That's a very real possibility.
I mean, just look where all the army bases are in the middle of nowhere, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Got it for a premium.
I'm still, well, I'll say it.
I'm still looking for a certain type of base that I think exists that is not on any maps.
and within my state.
And so I'm still coming for it, Nick.
You're not going to stop me.
All right, Tony.
I just, I don't know.
Maybe the entrance is your garage.
Listen, with that, if it gets you in trouble, maybe, maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe.
But that stuff is anything, if that stuff did exist, Tony,
that would be entirely way over my pay grade and way over my realm.
Like I said, I'm just a, I'm just a ditch digger.
I'm not trying to get you in trouble, though.
But if you can answer this, what are your thoughts on the deep underground military bases?
So, like, I'm sure just strategically there are probably something like that.
And this is just my opinion.
This is just me, you know, as just like normal guys saying this, I'm sure that there are some bases that they have like that.
Just because it makes sense, like with the Cold War and the threat of nuclear war and stuff like that.
now do I think that like now with modern media coverage that the ones that are established like
Cheyenne Mountain and like some of the other ones that get on put on paper,
maybe there's probably more, but they are probably like very, very hush, hush.
And I think those are more like along.
I think they're more really for the continuity of government, you know.
And I'm sure now with modern technology you can dig stuff and, you know, there's,
the entrances the McDonald's bathroom and no one
I never know the wiser, you know what I mean?
I'm sure for security reasons, there are stuff like that.
Now, massive places that are so big that they're the size of small cities,
I just, you know, I'm a logistics guy, so I just look at it like, you know,
people eat a lot, people waste a lot, people make a lot of trash.
All this stuff has to come from somewhere to some place.
So, I mean, there would be mountains of trash.
or lines of pickup trucks and semi-trucks,
that would be a thing.
I mean, as a trucker, like,
the U.S. military and the U.S. government uses civilian contractors
that moves around.
That's just part of our logistics system.
So, like, if there was a super secret hidden base in the mountain,
you would just need to follow the trucks.
I don't think you could keep that hidden.
Now, I'm sure there's some, if we want to get to more woo,
like maybe there's other shit they use.
But if I use it, just look at that from purely, like, hidden in plain sight,
They need fuel, they need beans, bullets, and, like, water.
Like, those are, like, they need food, all the stuff to run, and they need water, especially water.
All that stuff has to come from somewhere.
So, all right, here's my thoughts back to you.
You're wrong.
No, I'm kidding.
But, so in Pennsylvania, we do have a deep underground military base.
It's called Raven Rock.
It's on the maps.
You can find it.
all that stuff.
And there's a lot of people that suggest that it is connected underground to Camp David.
And that's not too hard to imagine because Raven Rock and Camp David are extremely close.
I think within like five miles.
So if that's true, which I don't see any reason why it couldn't be true, then we have an example of an underground military base that is known to the public connecting to another military base.
So if they wanted to, not like they don't have, they're not short on funds, they have no problem printing money.
They could do maybe a deep underground military base where it's secret and the only way to access it is through Raven Rock or one of the known places.
I've talked to truck drivers who have gone into Raven Rock and they have one delivery.
Like it's just like, because when you go into these places, you can only have what is there for that place.
You can't just have a bunch of general freight on there.
So just to say it's one pallet.
And I've talked to one guy who was picking up one pallet.
But let's just say it's one truckload.
He's there all day long.
And so say a trash truck goes into Raven Rock and is gone for eight hours, it wouldn't be unusual.
There's truckers that go in there and they sit and they wait and they wait.
And so I'm just saying on my end, I,
could see how that could be possible. We hear people talk about strange booms and no understanding
of where it's coming from. Well, maybe there's some kind of construction going on underground,
and that's why you have no idea where it's coming from. Just my own thoughts. This is why we're
only giving your first name, and we're not doing this on video. So I don't want to get you in trouble.
No, I mean, yeah, that's pretty valid point. So I just look at it from like the conventional
dude. And also I always, I laugh. Like, the one thing I could, I always bugs me, right, right,
by secret military bases, right? Who do they have staffing this? Because they may just pick up some
Joe Snuffy, some regular guy off the street. Come on. Like, everybody's on TikTok nowadays.
I mean, I've always wondered, like, I mean, I guess if you make them sign a non-disclosure agreement,
it's a legally binding document. I think there's a lot of that, though. I really do. I think
there's a lot of vetting as to who gets access to certain things. And once you are somebody that
they think is able to do what they need you to do, then you have to sign a legal document. And
you're already fitting the profile of somebody that they think would be fine with whatever.
And so the odds are you'll be fine. We have people that were civilians like Bob Lazar.
I don't know how you feel about Bob Lazar, but he was a civilian working in S4. And he
technically went AWOL. He started talking and showing people things and he created a lot of problems
in his life. And so, you know, that maybe even Bob Lazar himself over the years has been an example
for other people not to talk about the things that they're doing. And then I think Bob said that,
you know, he would get on, I think it was like a blacked out bus. They had no idea how to how to get
to where they were going or something like that. Maybe I'm confusing stories now that I'm thinking about it.
but no, I'm pretty sure he had an escort.
Like he couldn't just drive to where he worked.
He had to be at a certain spot to get on a bus to be driven.
And so...
I'm sure there's layers and layers of security at these places, but I'm always just curious.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, no, curiosity is what, you know, is ultimately going to get me killed.
So I'm a big fan.
So anyways, let's move on to another story, brother.
Okay.
All right.
So this next story is also a Vietnam-related story.
So the background on this is I'll post little articles on the page that I find mainly a lot from the Bigfoot Field Resource Organization because it's easy and I can filter through like, you know, Fort Polk and I can get like some hits on Fort Polk.
But I did it was like Googling paranormal Vietnam, like just going by like each one of our major wars.
And so I found this one article from the is like kind of like a military website called We Are the Mighty.
And it was like basically it was talking about a legend in Vietnam troops.
talked about called the tree people. And it's not like related to like the like the other sightings of like
Sasquatch like creatures and other weird things that soldiers saw there. So the gist of it was that
there are the soldiers who saw like these shadows that look like people or sometimes they saw like
actual people in the trees at the base of these trees inside like the under the shade. And at night
they would see him walking around everywhere. And then it takes a little bit of a woo kind of like
turn and then it talks about like how that these were actually like zombies the montigniards told
them like there's these like those ghoul things and then like how the soldiers actually found like
these zombie like creatures of like you know dead NBA and v. Kong and American soldiers and they
had to be killed they the light burned them so they hid in the trees um it got kind of weird and so
that's why like we quote unquote we used agent orange in vietnam that was the claim um i don't know how much
I buy into that one. But when I posted that, I was like, oh, let me just post this.
It's kind of an interesting story. I don't know if I buy into it too much. I actually had two
individuals reach out to me. One individual whose husband served in Vietnam, another individual
whose late family friend also serving Vietnam, who kind of led some credence to that story,
maybe more of like the supernatural, maybe not like the zombies running around Vietnam, but
like, you know, kind of like maybe there was actually something to this story. So the first part here,
My husband served in Vietnam from 1970 to 1971.
He and others saw what they called the tree spirits in Vietnam.
Tree spirits are soldiers who died fighting in Vietnam.
My husband said that you can see shadows that look like soldiers with weapons.
He said you could distinguish the shadows if they were Viet Cong, NVA, or even American soldiers.
It looked like they were, it was just the shadow outline of those people.
Perhaps they were guarding the area.
He didn't think those spirits knew that they were dead.
and when the night sky would light up with artillery illumination rounds,
he would see their shadows all in the trees.
Like they would physically be in the trees,
like on the branches looking down.
So the second part is from another story.
And this individual's,
a recounted story that his dad's late friend Miles.
So my dad's late friend Miles used to be in a recon battalion in Vietnam.
He saw some messed up stuff because they were usually alone
and way ahead of everyone else,
typical of like a reconnaissance battalion.
he told me that once in a while you'd see people at night,
like silhouettes in the trees, bushes, and grass.
He described a few of them as all black in shadows.
And a few others were like the predator, you know, that see-through,
not typical see-through, like not invisible.
But because they're thick of it, they think they thought it was just the enemy.
It could be anything.
But nothing would phase them.
You'd shoot through these shadows and these like glimmers,
and they would just stand there and stare at you.
Like, I guess, like, what he described is they would just turn and be pointed at your direction.
Miles used to tell me that he believed the government was doing experience.
There's experiments out there or the land was cursed.
He also believed that the ghosts couldn't leave the field,
so they would just wait and watch the battles.
Miles was also a crazy bastard even up until his death.
When when it came to Vietnam, he was always dead serious and he never swore.
He always swore that he wasn't lying.
So I got those two stories, and it made me really think that maybe there is something to those spirits,
the tree people, the tree spirits.
Just another interesting Vietnam story.
Yeah, and that actually maybe it rings a bell for me because it's more local than me, but the idea of Gettysburg, people swear they see apparitions all over Gettysburg from the Deadless Battle or the Civil War.
And so the idea of, you know, that, do you know of any reason why they would be in trees, though?
I mean, was this something that maybe they did tactically?
So what I, I mean, so obviously like the Viacong and the NBA would use the trees as cover.
her.
But so what I,
the only thing I could find was it,
there was like a,
a legend in Vietnam of some of like the more rural tribes.
And don't quote me on this.
I did like,
when I say research,
I'm like,
let me look at Wikipedia after work.
Like five minutes later.
Yeah.
Now I'm up late.
But it was basically like a legend that,
that the ghost of people who died in the jungle would basically
congregate around these trees.
And that's,
that's really all,
could find on it.
Well, nothing like, you know, they were hostile or anything like that or like the zombie
kind of like the story was going for.
The original one I found.
But it was more like, like, they were just apparitions that had died in battle and they
just stayed there, you know?
Yeah.
Or they were still watching.
They were like, I don't know, it was, it was not a lot of information I could find.
And that's where it gets hard like with foreign stories.
You know, when I have to dig into that because it's different search engines and like
language barrier.
every now and again I'm lucky and I find someone from those parts of the world
that'll like elaborate or help me feed me stories.
But I don't know.
I think maybe they were just ghosts, you know.
Hawaii has a legend of the night marchers, which I don't know if you're familiar.
No.
So night marchers are the ghosts and spirits of ancient Hawaiian warriors.
And they will occasionally appear in places that are of great spiritual and significance
to the local Hawaiians.
So places where, like, there were been battles and stuff like that.
And they appear, basically, like, they'll appear at a distance or they'll walk up to you.
And when you see them, you're supposed to leave.
Like, the, the legend is you don't stay because it's bad luck, it's bad business for you.
They're telling you to leave.
And you'll see them marching with torches.
Some people report the lights.
Some people report the actual apparition, like a full-bodied ancient Hawaiian warrior
standing there.
And they don't do anything overly hostile.
They just watch you.
But it's like, that's, that's your,
Q, K, time to go.
And that's a pretty big predominant legend.
There's even people that see it like in some of the training areas here.
Yeah, there's a lot of legends coming out of Hawaii.
I, one of my show artists lives in Hawaii.
His name's Alika.
He's pure Hawaiian.
And he tells me stories a lot whenever we get to talk.
And one of these days, I got to have him back on the show.
I had him on before and stuff.
But there's so much that he could share from the local legends.
I mean, it's, and he's, he's a, he's a historian, essentially.
Yeah, I mean, not, like, it's not his job.
He's a full-time artist, but, um, his bloodline comes from royalty in Hawaii.
And he just, like, 100% is firmly rooted in his lineage where he knows the history of the land.
He knows the legends.
He knows everything.
He's like a walking encyclopedia for Hawaii.
And he loves it.
Like, he loves his land.
So much respect for him.
But that is interesting.
And I got some thoughts about the zombie angle, but I'm actually going to not talk about it on the recording because I might actually do something else with that angle later.
And I don't want to give it away, but I'll tell you later.
Okay.
But yeah, it's interesting.
So go ahead and carry on, my friend.
All right.
So this next story is really unique.
and is it that it comes from Russia out of a member of someone who's served in the Russian armed forces.
So disclaimer, even though media pumps it up and, you know, we talk about Russia, we're not technically at war with Russia.
So like, you know, I will take stories from anyone.
So this guy, and this guy actually served, he came over here, became a U.S. citizen and served in the U.S. Army, totally legal to do as long as he passed a background check.
And he passed every background check known to man.
So, but he has two really interesting stories.
And I think it's interesting because, you know, those countries that we may or may not have necessarily a friendly relationship with or like kind of like that standoff's relationship like we do.
I always wonder like, you know, countries like Iran, Iraq, Russia, China, like paranormal stuff and crazy stuff is not just limited to the Western world.
Like what are they experiencing there that makes their history?
And then more importantly, you know, outside of the Western world, people have a different way of,
viewing the paranormal, you know.
In Russia, like, you know, ghosts and spirits are just kind of like, oh, yeah, there's one
that lives down the road in the swamp.
Don't walk past right midnight.
It will drag you into the swamp and drown you.
Common knowledge.
Yeah, it's common knowledge.
Or like, you know, oh, yeah, no, that's just, that's our, that's our, that's our,
you know, our local, that is our friendly neighborhood guardian.
Just don't cuss around it and keep minding your manners and you'll be okay.
You know, so I always find it super fascinating.
And I actually have, you know, this is one of the individuals who sent me a story from over there.
But I think it's just good, it's just really good perspective on stuff and just also super fascinating.
So I'll get into it.
So this first story is when he was in Chesnia.
So before I became a U.S. citizen and joined the U.S. Army, I was in the VDV, which is the Russian paratroopers from 2008 to 2013.
And for those of you don't know, like they have mandatory conscription.
So that's why he was also in the service.
He didn't really not have a choice.
During my time, I did two combat rotations, one being in Chechnya, the other one being in Dagestan.
During my first rotation in Chechnya, it was early spring 2009.
The rain was non-stop, the fog was thick like forage, and it shifted between cold and hellishly hot.
I was doing the patrol in the dead of night with my century team, a group of four men, me, Vassia, Kirill, and Alosha.
It had been raining the whole day, and it didn't seem like it was going to stop for the night either.
The woods were thick and impenegible, and the mood was non-existent.
My team was walking through the woods when all of a sudden we could see what looked like torches in front of
of us, little orbs of light just floating in the distance.
We turned and looked at each other, obviously worried we're about to meet insurgents in this
pitch blackness.
That's when the whisper started happening.
It really didn't make sense to me.
It sounded like the trees were talking because it was coming from everywhere.
I couldn't make out anything they said, but it was different for Vassia.
However, he called out, Papa, what do you mean you want me close to you?
He started taking off into the forest and what I mean taking off, dead sprinting toward those lights.
He dropped his rifle and stripped off all his gear and proceeded to run through the
brambles and bushes like they didn't matter. The three of us were barely keeping up with him as he
continues to yell for his father asking if he is cold and hungry. We finally caught up to him. He just
stops in this small clearing in the forest at the edge of a peat bog. He falls to his knees,
looks at us and says, I like to go home now. We drag him back to our camp and explained to our
NCO in charge that we were, why we were 30 minutes late. He just sends us to our beds and we
lay in our bed rolls looking at each other in shock, trying not to cry. The villagers in many
different places in Russia
talk about fairy lights
or cappers,
which are lights
that lead people
to their deaths.
It's kind of creepy.
There's like some
stalker level stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it seems like
something took over
this guy's mind.
Yeah.
So it's basically like,
basically I would describe it to me.
There's like,
Russian folkle talks
about these spirits
that basically try to convince you
to go walk into the bog
and lead you to your death
or swamps and stuff like that.
And so when you stopped
at the peak bog,
it seemed like when they caught up to him,
whatever was possessing him stopped.
I don't know. It was really weird.
He said it was definitely an experience that left him shaken.
And he just,
if I hear voices in the woods now,
when I started hearing stuff in the woods again,
he would turn around and leave.
Wow. Wow.
And that happened in Russia.
That happened in Russia.
So I was in Chechnya.
Chechnya.
Gotcha. Wow.
So the next story he has is from Mongolia.
And I find this one super interesting too.
Now, you can come, maybe you can kind of see where this one's going.
Okay.
Another training exercise I was on was with the Mongolia and the Kazistani Army.
It was me walking around the desert for a month wondering when I was going to die of heat stroke.
There was a point when our groups were walking around these pumice sandstone hills.
If you don't know, pumice is a very porous stone with natural holes showing through.
And after enough time and rain, these holes get big enough to fit a small man or dog through.
On a night watch, I was on a giant cord machine gun.
We had these IR thermals attached to them and I was scanning more or less really, really.
sleeping the terrain when I see what appears to be the thermal image of one of those inflatable
tube men without arms, you know, the kinds that you see at car dealerships in the U.S.,
that wave around.
It's about 100 meters out on the slope of a hill.
I believe and close my eyes when I open and look through again, I see this thing moving
side to side, just like one of those giant inflatable tube men, but with no arms.
I decided to turn on the floodlight attached to our cord, and for its split second,
I see this massive fucking caterpillar about the size of a horse.
it's poking out of one of those large holes in the pumice,
and it slinks back down when I was trying to light on it.
I remember vivid detail this thing.
It was the same amber color as a cockroach.
I counted eight limbs from what I saw,
but I can only guess that maybe what I was only seeing
was a quarter of the length of this thing.
Its face, if you want to call it, that looked like one of those wood grubs.
I shot in a legitimate surprise.
I turned around, and there was a Kazakh soldier washing me.
You probably explained that I had seen a quote-unquote Mongolian deathworm.
and to be honest, I have no explanation for what it could have been otherwise.
Yeah.
What the heck?
What the heck?
Yeah, this dude was like, yeah, I have, like, I know what I saw.
There's definitely I was not hallucinating.
Wow.
That's weird.
That is so weird.
So the best he could describe was a giant caterpillar.
Yeah, that's, he said that's what it looked like.
And when he said he talked to the other, the Kazakh soldiers and the Mongolian soldiers that had,
it was an undisclosed location in
Mongolian desert or somewhere out there
and they basically were like, oh yeah, you see these things all the time.
And it kind of makes me laugh because it's just like
wildlife at any other military base, right?
Like here and, so like for example, the pigs in Hawaii, right?
They will run away if they see you, Tony, walking up to them
because they're scared of people.
But if they see the uniform, if they specifically see the Army
OCP uniform, they are so used.
to soldiers, they do not care.
They're like, oh, whatever.
Really?
Yeah, it's, it's, they will walk right up to you thinking you're going to toss some food
because people feed them.
Like, they have no fear of you.
You have to like, kind of make some noise to get them to go away.
Which I always find it funny.
I'm like, what are these things out there living in the training areas?
They're like, oh, look, it's a soldier.
I don't even really care.
Wow.
You know.
But yeah, those are two unique stories, I think, coming out of like the Russian armed forces.
Very unique individual of, an individual, an individual.
who surprisingly there's people like him that serve in foreign militaries and then come to the United States, pass their background checks, and then join up in the armed forces.
That's incredible. Wow. I don't even know what to say to that. I mean, that's so bizarre. That's a good story, both of them.
Great story. Great story. It really shows, like with some of these stories you're sharing, it just shows that the bizarre stuff is not constrained to any one country. I mean, it's just, it's all over to play.
place. Yeah, and I'll have one more foreign one here and we'll be back to like United,
you know, United States, but I'm always looking for foreign ones. Ironically, when I first
started the page, I had a lot of, not ironically, but, you know, really cool. I had a lot of New Zealand
soldiers following me. And they would tell me about Galatos Barracks, a Wairo training area,
which is like infamous because it's like the like starting base for most soldiers in New Zealand,
but it's also supposedly supremely haunted, has like all sorts of stories surrounding it.
I always love listening to foreign stories.
Just one, I always find that even though militaries are different,
some things always stay the same.
And then two, just did like their perspective on things, you know?
Absolutely.
There's quite a bit.
But we'll get into another foreign one real quick.
So this is from the British Army.
This one's a little more simple, maybe.
Okay, so this individual was in the British 40th Royal Marine Commandos.
So I don't know if that's not too familiar with British Army,
but that's the unit he was in. So this was when he was in Afghanistan during the war.
So we were on Herrick 7 in Afghanistan as a young Marines in the 40th command of Royal Marines.
We were in Sengen and tasked with taking ground at the four edges of the fight lines.
Marines would fight through these areas, taking ground, and the army would follow up behind them
and build fobs and patrol bases to hold this hard one territory.
This at the height of violence with the Taliban and IED activity.
labs were getting shot and blown up regularly.
They were losing legs, arms, feet, and being killed.
There are instances of the Taliban hanging body parts from the trees to scare troops in these certain areas.
But through all this chaos, madness, and violence, we had loyal interpreters that risked their lives and families to be with us.
They were out there in the area, but if they were found what they were doing with us, their families would be beheaded.
To say that these guys were brave was an understatement.
However, on a routine patrol, we came up onto a new village.
as we approach the town,
these same hardcore brave interpreters
that have gone through hell and high water with us
refused to go into the town with no explanation.
After much arguing and threatening
not to pay them for completing their job,
they finally said that they would not enter the village
because it was inhabited by evil gnomes
that cursed and killed people.
There are these short, dark-skinned little people
that move quickly and look like angry little mad people.
Although we didn't see anything,
these interpreters would not enter the village,
let alone look at it and quit their jaw and would quit their jaws if they had to go into that town.
It was so strange.
They had never backed down from a fight in the Taliban and really went through the shit routinely went through the shit with us.
After all they had seen and been through, it makes me wonder how evil those gnomes could have been.
It really makes you wonder.
I mean, I've heard stories of gnomes and things like that.
And when you put it in that light where, you know, these are guys who are going counterculture,
they are putting their lives in the line,
their family's lives on the line,
going against Taliban,
things like that,
and they're scared of gnomes,
you know?
Because I asked them,
I asked that guy,
like,
was it because they knew the Taliban
was there maybe,
like,
Al-Qaeda or something?
And they were like,
no.
Like,
he was like,
these guys would,
like,
run through fire with us.
Like,
no hesitation.
But when it came to this particular village,
they refused to go anywhere near it.
This is weirdness.
I mean,
it really,
when you put the context
around that story, it really puts some validity to it because these guys really, and not just one
guy, many people really believe there was just pure evil there, more evil than the evil they
were fighting.
Yeah.
Afghanistan is a weird place, man.
Like, I, you know, I've never been there, but just hearing stories and talking to people
that have lived and thought there, like, it's, I think it's definitely a place that is,
hard to understand.
Yeah, I might need to visit
someday. Nah, just kidding.
Yeah, it might need to take... I would
I would wait a little bit, Tony.
Yeah, I think it might be
maybe a slight miscalculation of my part.
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Okay, so this next story is from a marine at Camp Lejeune.
And I think it's pretty cool because it involves ghost tanks.
All right.
Ghost tanks on Camp Lejeune.
So I want to start off by saying that it was my second or third month in the Jacksonville,
North Carolina area.
And I just got stationed at Marine Corps Air Station New River.
So I wanted to explore Camp Lejeune because I knew I would have to go there from time to time to perform my duties.
And so one night, around midnight, probably Friday or Saturday, I was getting in my, I got my car and headed over to Lajun to kind of drive around and explore my way around the base.
It's probably, probably ended up around 3 a.m. when I decided to head back to my barracks.
So I plug in my GPS. Long story short, I end up on one of those roads towards the base is old decommission gates.
If you spend any time in the Onslow area, you know that the wee hours in the morning, you can get pretty foggy and,
creates an overall and easy feeling.
I realized my mistake that I was heading towards a dead end,
and I turned around and started heading back the way I came.
At this point, my car starts to jump and shake.
I guess it was one of those artillery battalions running a night off,
shooting into the air close by.
Well, anyway, I keep going down the road,
and it's lined by streetlights maybe 100 feet or more apart,
and they're illuminating the street through the fog just enough.
All of a sudden, it feels like I was on a drawbridge.
Like, you know, everything's shaking.
And I, shit you not,
three tanks, about 300 feet away from me, vintage-looking, maybe be Vietnam era, come rolling
from the tree line on the right, across the road and into the tree line and the other side of the road.
They had men manning the turrets and everything. I could only make out the men from the shoulders
up, but they were not wearing our modern kevlar's, and instead they would look like they had the old
GI helmets with no covers on the way that the street lights reflected off the tops.
They're like they're in the bare metal, like that old bare metal. After they passed, I immediately
thought that I might have accidentally ventured into a restricted part of the
like on a range or something.
Still, when I got to where they crossed, there were no signs of them.
No muddy track marks.
No, the tree lines were super dense.
Nothing was knocked over.
You can even fit a squat through there without making at least hacking a couple of the trees down.
I don't know what I saw, but those tanks or soldiers looked like they were straight out of Vietnam.
That, I guess, falls in line with the idea of the residual energy.
I mean, we have to, like, and I found this story interesting because when he describes like the rattling noise.
like I don't know if you ever been near tanks.
No.
Right?
So like tanks are super noisy.
Like anything with tracks makes like a ton of noise.
It makes like this,
like a clunking noise.
And just tanks themselves are just super loud.
And they,
and when they move because they're so heavy,
they'll shake the ground if there's enough of them.
So like it sounds like she saw like these legit tanks
that just came rolling through.
I know I found that was super interesting.
I've never heard of ghost tanks before,
but he swears up and down what he saw was.
those those were tanks.
I don't know.
Maybe it was like a residual memory or something of the land or something like that.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
But that's the best way I could describe it.
I mean, tanks were never alive.
So we know it's not a soul of a tank, you know?
Yeah, I showed him a random picture from Vietnam of like dudes riding on top of a tank,
like kind of like what he was describing with like the gear.
And I was like, is this what you saw?
And I sent him like a couple other ones of like other different tanks from different periods.
And he was like, nope, this is exactly what I'm.
I saw this exact same tank, this exact same style rolling down the road.
And it's like, you know, we, those things haven't been in Army.
I think it was before even the M60, which was like around in like the Gulf War still.
Like it has not been in the Army system for years, let alone the Marine Corps one.
So I always wondered what it could have been.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, if that's the case, then even the idea of, you know, if just being an antique
movie, it probably wouldn't even be moved.
If it was real, it probably wouldn't be something that would be movable.
it would have to be stationary, not like it could just drive around.
Exactly.
So, I don't know, really weird story.
It's interesting.
All right.
So the next one, we're going back to Iraq.
And this one's super interesting, not necessarily, like, creepy or spooky or anything,
but I think puts a lot of, like, perspective onto some of the stuff about, like, some of these stories.
So the background to this, this individual worked in intelligence, military intelligence, right?
And they do a lot of analysis, like, on cultural.
and stuff like that is probably one of their big jobs.
So the story goes, back in 2009, the Ex-O-Out-Fobb asked me to report on the cultures and
history of our surrounding area.
And that fob encompassed and protected in ancient Ziggurat.
Not sure why.
Much of the secretarian stuff, much of the secretarian stuff is disturbing fringe things.
So secretarian being like the fringe groups, the vibe, like some of that violence of like,
they're not affiliated with Saddam, they're not affiliated with Al-Qaeda.
They're like kind of out there on their own.
So they were trying to figure things out like who is who out there.
My higher-ups were also interested in the local small Jewish population as well in Iraq.
The weird stuff that we found usually sent around a single dude, a mystic that was focused on the darker stuff.
Mystic Islam isn't about the Quran as much as about a spiritual connection.
Honestly, looks closer to Hinduism than Islam anyway from what I found.
Meditation, narcotics, chances, rituals to summon or become one way.
with whatever. The crazy ones were focused on energy,
focused their energy on summoning Jin, Iblis, etc., other weird creatures.
The funny enough, I tried to find more info. I couldn't keep the report I did,
but Google sucks for research now. But all that will pop up is Yazidis,
I can't pronounce that, which have their baddies too. They focus on Marduk,
a couple other things you want to dig into it. The sources, physical evidence that shows
racism does not predate Judaism, and it just predates the Jewish exile to Babylon.
Also, since Islam is a relatively new religion, these are important details.
The super important details is because the diffusion of ancient cultures ties into the boogeyman
origin stories of today. One of these days, I'll have to get back into it, but the stories
that pops out when you have all this info are engrossing. So going back, for instance, when I was
in Iraq at this fall, an Islamic fighter created a brigade of extremists.
as in too messed up for their other extremists to associate it with, i.e., they would kill their enemies,
eat their hearts and livers. This way, they destroyed their opposition and gained the power
knowledge of the person they murdered slash killed. They validate this from a story where,
hind, I guess from the Quran, ate the liver of Hamzaa, the companion of the prophet of Muhammad.
Those guys still consider themselves to be Muslims. You also have counterculture guys who see
Islam is a corruption of an older, better, more powerful, i.e. better or more powerful religion.
This goes back into where you're saying, like, serrationalism and pre-Judaism, culture is mixing with Islam.
Cryptage, jinn, ghouls, etc. are whisperings of an ancient religion of the past.
Usually, these ancient holdover pieces start blending with local and foreign beliefs.
Inevitably, some nut with a dark past latches onto this stuff and tries to revive it.
He has given or finds some secret knowledge that ties together with whatever
ancient mystery he wants to use to validate whatever reason he's selling.
The modus operanda of these guys is always the same thing, man.
They seek validation, pleasure, influence, and power.
When they focus on the darker spirits, things that get sick, things that get weird,
I call these guys the anti-Muslims.
They get off on doing all sorts of things Islam says is evil.
They do rituals to some of these gin beings, and these guys are pretty much like
the otherworldly, worldwide variations of the Shrigoi, Fairy, and other.
not so much like the genie Islamic view.
These anti-Muslim guys want to channel these spirits
to help them fight their enemies.
They like the ones that target travelers and strangers,
i.e. us.
But these gen are usually extra spooky and extra creepy.
So these guys focus all their energy
on connecting with that shit.
Now throw in a combat zone,
various people stacking bodies on the regular
for generations in a consolidated area,
and it's no wonder I think our guys see freaky stuff out there.
So basically, I know it's a lot to digest.
basically this guy looking into weird fringe stuff at this fob that was around an ancient religious site,
found out that there's like these groups of people that take Islam to an extreme,
and then there's groups of people that like go the exact opposite way to the extreme,
but they're blending ancient culture and religion together.
And so his belief basically from this whole thing was that people that see the weird stuff in combat zones,
people see like, you know,
ghosts and apparitions.
And like I saw this demon looking thing
peek around a corner on this village.
He thinks that it's, you know,
these people were summoning these creatures
to come mess with us.
You know, and whether or not
they're getting the effect they wanted or not
or whether or not was real.
He just thinks that maybe that's why people saw
like the weird things they did in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Wow.
So that's like a whole other new element.
to what is perceived to be going on over there.
Yeah, and I talked to some guys of Islamic faith,
and they said that this is exactly spot on.
It's like, in Afghanistan, Iraq, this is exactly, like, correct.
There's, like, these guys that take, like, this black magic kind of anti-Muslim thing.
And then there's these guys that take, like, you know, the Quran to a whole other level, you know,
just like, they're like, this is exactly true.
And both of them do like some type of occultish black magic kind of things to summon powers that they think will do their bidding.
Really weird stuff.
So how, as somebody who's in the military, if that story's true, how do you think we combat that kind of stuff in the field?
Who knows, Tony?
He clears his throat.
Hey, you know what?
I have some guesses.
I don't know, Tony.
I mean, I think a lot of soldiers themselves are very spiritual and religious too.
Like, I knew people that have some very superstitious things and all sorts of religions and cultures in the U.S. military.
I'm sure we combine our faith to prevent some of these things from happening.
But, yeah, no, that would be an interesting thing.
reminds me of like a book I read a while back about it.
Oh, no, it's, yeah, okay, I'm thinking of hellboy.
Never mind.
Close.
Yeah, but no, I always find it interesting because there's definitely,
as much as people want to pretend like religion is not a thing and is fake and made up,
like, you know, I'm a guy of a certain faith that I believe all the stuff is real.
Yeah, well, me too, me too.
It just makes you wonder.
if if you're getting stories through your Instagram page like that surely we know all about it you know
and it's like how do you how do you how do you approach that then because i i mean i'm firmly
convinced that you know our our military government things like that they're not ignorant to
the idea of black magic being real and so i'm sure i mean like i'm sure tony like there's
I can think that if there was anything that could be used against us or used for us,
we're going to look into it.
Sure.
Yeah.
Like, as anyone would, like, that's the, that's the one.
If there's some world-altering power, you can best believe we're probably,
we're probably going to figure out how to harness it before someone else can.
Like, you know what I mean?
Or at least try to figure out, is it any threat to us?
I don't know.
sounds very Hollywoodish, but I feel like that's just human nature in the bandwidth.
No, I agree. I agree. We'll leave it there. We'll leave it there. I won't, I won't pry too much because I, you know, I'm trying to be a good soldier for you.
Oh, God, Tony. I'm not trying to get you in trouble, man. I don't want to egg you into conversation that could get you into trouble.
Well, unfortunately, Tony, I would say everything I'm talking, everything I would talk to you about is just stuff from my own.
research and belief.
I don't unfortunately have any...
I don't know where the skeletons are buried out there.
No, but I don't want you to come across as agreeing with some of the accusations I could
pitch.
Yeah, I really hope people paid attention to my disclaimer in the front.
Yes.
And that goes from me too.
Like, my opinions are not Nick's opinions.
Oh, man.
Where are we at here?
Okay, so here's this next one from Fort Huachuca, right?
So people I don't know, Fort Huachuca is out in New Mexico.
It's where the Army trains a lot of their intel people, a lot of signal guys.
It's mainly like a training base.
All right, so this guy, the recounts the time he saw a UFO out there two times.
Okay, so there were two times that had happened in the day and two times at night.
If anyone has ever been to Fort Huachuka, they know that the long PT road that takes them to the airport gate and the mountain base.
This road is pretty long, and many battalions do their fair share of running, rucking, and PT tests on it.
One morning, we had been doing a team run, and we were running down the road towards the airport.
My team leader and I usually had a similar pace, and so we'd always run together.
We had seen this black disk come down from the clouds, way out from the far mountain range towards Tucson.
This thing has to be making time because of how quickly it got from one side of the range to the other in the matter of seconds.
As soon as they started moving over the mountains, we heard the F-22s from the airport picking up.
Start up and take off.
it was pretty quick that these guys,
it was pretty apparent that these guys were taken off
and chasing this thing. The other range
is about 90 to 120 miles away
and that's from where we are in the Sierra Vista.
Anyways, by the time these pilots
had responded to it, it was already moving back up
into the atmosphere. This all had to happen
within like two to three minutes.
The second time is when we were in formation closeout,
waiting for our sergeant major to start talking.
I even looking up, memorizing the clowns
just like as any board specials would do,
and I had noticed this black silver,
this, I'm sorry, this silver disk was moving at such weird angles to match the form of the clouds.
I pointed this out to another guy next to me. We were both watching it as the cloud,
as that other clouds had moved in below blocking our view, and we never saw it after that.
The first time we had seen the lights at night was when we would sit in the back of my truck,
drink and talk about watching the lightning storms over Tucson in the distance.
The stars were bright, but we were, we had been out there all night, almost drinking every night,
and then we knew something was different. This night, we were talking as usual, not drinking,
and we had seen these green and orange lights flashing in the distance moving fast and coming to a stop.
We looked up at what airplane, we looked at what airplane lines they could be on their wings,
but it wasn't matching up to anything we could find.
That was the first weird thing, that these lights would hover in an area outside of the storm
for another 15 minutes before shooting up and out of sight within the blink of an eye.
We also always saw it was a stream of light that something makes when it moves really fast, stupid fast.
We both had agreed that it was weird and continued our conversation.
The lack of experience I had would be when I was out in the field with shooting comms.
We ran 24-hour comm switching parameters on our net ops to make sure everything was fully functional.
We had seen another light come down, this time in a circular motion over the border with the U.S. airspace.
It wasn't too far away from us, but we were watching with big eyes.
It was just hovering near the blimps for a few minutes.
Intel uses like kind of blimps to gather intelligence signals, stuff like that.
So that's what he was working on.
It was flashing colors like the last one.
This time it was just a blue light, but super brighter than anything.
I've ever seen. At the same time, it had come down. We had lost signal in radio comms,
so we couldn't even call to the other teams who had been closer to it on the other side of the
valley. This time, instead of beaming back up to the sky, it just disappeared in the blink of an eye.
So a couple weird UFO sightings from Fort Huachuca.
And where is that again, Fort Huachuca? New Mexico. Oh, sorry, here's the rest of it. I'm sorry,
I have this flipping my pages. So he goes on to say, we knew it had left because the signal had come
back because his signal of the net ops had gone out when the thing appeared.
We received a call from the officer in his duty at the time, and we didn't know if we had
a believable story.
So we blinked on a power issue.
The four of us saw it and tried to get a video proof, but nothing could be made out
except for the audio.
We all passed off.
There's another weird thing about Arizona without ever speaking of it again.
The Air Force has done a lot of exciting stuff out there about the one, but you know about
the one airline that goes into Area 51?
We had this thing land there one time on our tiny runway.
We've never seen anything more significant than A10s and F-22s land there before.
So when I saw this giant commercial flight, I thought it was bizarre.
That's the end of it.
That is interesting.
Why would a giant commercial flight land there?
Yeah, I think it was called Comet or something like that.
It's like a government contracted flight.
And it's known, it's like one of those people, cargo movers.
And it's known, I guess, for taking people to Area 51 or just moving people to some of these sites outside in the desert.
from what I've been able to gather online.
I'm not too familiar with that too much.
But yes, weird stuff in the desert.
Do you think that that's more than likely our own stuff that we're working on?
It's just top secrets, so you're not going to know what you're looking at?
Who knows?
I mean, I definitely could say that if we ever wanted to test our own stuff out,
the best people to do it against would be us, I guess, because, you know,
if we're imagining we're the toughest guys on the planet,
then of course we want to fight the toughest guys on the planet.
I just don't know.
I know we've, I mean, the U.S. in history, if you look up like,
I forgot what they're called, but when the first Navy SEALs came around,
they created a team that they would go around.
They would basically like attack and infiltrate military bases to test themselves, right?
Because if we're the best, then the best should be fighting the best, quote unquote.
you know, so I could imagine maybe some of the stuff is just tech that we have out there,
especially in all the test ranges and airfields and just massive amount of empty space in the
desert in Arizona and Mojave and stuff like that. Maybe, I don't know.
So what are your thoughts on the idea that we have, we have craft that what didn't originate
from Earth? I mean, from what I understand, our government did say that recently. What do you think?
Yeah, that was weird. I have no idea what to put on that because I was like, huh,
This is not exactly what I was expecting.
I don't know.
But it goes back to what I said earlier.
If we have something, what does everyone else have?
Because like you said, you know, this stuff and these stories and activity are not just synonymous with the United States.
And I always makes me wonder, I do believe I think it would be we are not just like some fluke of nature that we're the only planet to develop life.
I'm sure that there's stuff out there, you know.
and maybe they're just
like what we would do
when we discover like
if we would ever go like say to Pluto
and discover those life on Pluto
what we do.
We would probably like,
whoa,
take a step back.
Like let's check this out
because we were not expecting this.
We thought we were alone.
I would imagine they're maybe similar to us
in that regards.
Like,
you know what I mean?
If they were truly an advanced civilization
that can steam or all this,
why haven't they done it yet?
Sure.
Yeah.
I mean,
that's definitely,
a valid argument.
Yeah, it's interesting.
There's so many things that I think about when it comes to that stuff.
Like the Eisenhower deal, I mean, is that real?
Did it actually happen?
Knowing what we know now, as far as UFOs go and things that the government's saying now,
is it possible that this whole conspiracy theory of Eisenhower making a deal with extraterrestrials,
I mean, nowadays, with what?
our government says now,
and if you said
Biden made a deal with
extraterrestrials, you're like, well, we are talking to
them. We do have access to their craft
and things like that. So it makes you wonder
if the Eisenhower deal is something that actually did
happen. Yeah. I mean,
maybe we'll find out, maybe we're not. Maybe
they're not like this advanced
civilization. Maybe they're refugees that
have finally come across the habitable planet.
I don't know. Like, I love
science fiction. I love reading about that stuff.
Maybe science fiction becomes science.
reality one day. Who knows? Yeah. I think that's starting to happen, my friend. I think that's
starting to happen. Yeah, we'll see. So, other disclaimer is I get a lot of people that do message
my page with some very outlandish things that aren't in the military. And they give me a lot of
dates like this, the world should have ended as of yesterday or something like that. And I'm like,
well, still here, guys. So I think a lot of this stuff too, there's a lot of people that
put out their, you know, uninhibited
opinions as fact and
kind of disrupt the whole thing, you know.
It makes it really hard to weed through that mass of like what's real and what's not.
Yeah.
Yeah, I totally get it.
Let's get to some of the Skinwalker stuff.
All right.
Let me skip ahead of your.
All right.
So this is that Fort Benning, right?
So these last two are kind of like Skinwalker's stories.
And we get, I guess, into the overtime.
picked some other ones out that people claim to be skin walkers. And I have some ones that I
haven't posted yet. So this first one is from Fort Bennings. We didn't know anything about Fort Benning.
Fort Benning is New Georgia. It's a huge army training base. They have basic training,
airborne, ranger school, big base, right? A lot of training area. A lot of land people who are
running out of. So this story is from a guy at OCS. Also, I found that in a lot of these stories,
like people start sharing the same, same kind of encounters and stories from the same place.
makes you really wonder, like, huh, maybe it's not just a drill sergeant messing with people.
Maybe, you know, maybe it's something else there.
So this guy tells a pretty interesting story.
Okay.
So I was in OCS doing the dreaded sticks lanes.
It was early on in the week, so we were pretty well-what-I said before we settled into our patrol base for the long night of 50% security.
Around 0-200, we started hearing coyotes, which sounded like a whole bane of them making that unnerving, yeeepy noise, which isn't calming in Fort Benning, the wild-light regularly stumbles across off patrol bases.
But this time, it started giving me chills of my spy.
And it sounded like they were circling us.
It goes quiet and a couple peaceful and silent minutes pass.
The student platoon leader started checking security,
making sure everybody who was supposed to be awake was awake.
When he came back, a man was leading against a tree.
Thinking it was an officer candidate, he started asking,
hey, officer candidate, what are you doing standing?
Because everybody's supposed to be like prone position, hidden, right?
And the patrol base.
The LT gets no response.
And then it dawned on him.
He just checked the whole gun line and everybody was present in account of four in their positions.
Who are you and what are you doing here?
He exclaimed and he asked this question again and got no response.
If you know anything about patrol base, you know that it's one way in and one way out and a password and a guard guard.
There's no way some rando could just walk in without knowing the password and there's no way 50% security would have missed him walking through.
So that means like there's a hundred people, everybody's paired up into twos, right?
And then so those, those hundred people now spread out in a circle.
And out of those hundred people, 50 of them are awake.
So there's 50, there's 50 eyes looking in the forest.
So it's pretty hard to infiltrate it, like just walk straight through it.
So going back to the story.
So all of a sudden, the man started walking straight out of the, out of the observation post.
All I remember is that he had these very heavy footsteps.
Heavy footsteps.
After that, something in the fort, I, yeah, sorry, let me back up.
I kind of tongue twistered there.
That's cool.
After he walked out of the patrol base, all I remember hearing that he had these very heavy footfalls.
After that, I started hearing something in the forest, like something that would move between the bushes,
and I would start to see like a shadow of something staring at us.
The following day, we got back to the talk, which is basically like kind of like a command post.
I noticed that Kaj was present all night, and they had a cot set up.
Like they had, like, just woken up.
Like, they had been asleep all night.
I was pretty close to the guy that was there for the night, and I asked him,
man, will you messing with us last night? He responded.
Hell no. It was way too cold. I was sleeping in the ammo shed.
Then we asked around to what other pootons, asked of any of the platoons that had been messing with us.
No one could even point out what we were that night because we were that well hidden.
I don't know if it was what it was or how it got there. That's it. That's the story.
I'm not embellishing anything or making shit up. It's just what happened.
Like most real life events, I never got any answers or any big reveal.
So just going to remain an answer for the rest of my life.
But just to go back into some detail, I was manning
the 249th apex, so I heard him stomping around.
The PL described him as tall, about 6.3,
which is weird because none of our cadre were under about,
because none of our conjure were over 6 feet tall.
And the only other guys above 6.3 were the gate guard and me.
The PL said that he stuck.
I don't really chunk that up to anything,
because after all, if you're in the field, you stink.
And he was wearing a gator, I guess like a net gator,
which is, I guess, I don't know why that's significant.
but I guess that's what he was wearing.
And he was wearing a patrol cap,
which was also weird because all of us,
on the patrol base,
were wearing helmets.
And his flag was on the wrong shoulder,
and there was no unit patch.
He wore the infantry school.
We wore the infantry school patch.
So on an Army uniform,
you would wear your flag patch
on your right shoulder.
And then if you had a deployment,
the unit you deployed
would go beneath that,
but then on your left shoulder,
you would have your unit patch
to distinguish yourself.
So this guy had his,
his patch on his left shoulder and he was wearing the wrong unit patch there as well.
So it just was looking messed up.
And when I started seeing stuff in the bushes, I was only catching glimpses of it.
And when we watched him move out, it was like he was walking uncomfortably like he was moving on two feet.
Like it was uncomfortable for him.
So I don't know what could have been.
I grew up in Flagstaff, Arizona and Skinwalker territory.
The Navajo are admin that the Skinwalkers only exist inside their tribe.
But shapesifter stories are pervasive down in.
Georgia too. I'm not sure who or what it was, but it seemed like it was impersonating a
soldier and getting a lot of things wrong. I think they got the goat man or some other type of
thing. I think it also important to note here, I've accidentally skimmed over it. The guy was in
ACUs. So if you don't know what ACUs are, it's like that funky looking green digital
camo the army used to have. Yeah. So when this guy was in, in OCS, we had switched over to
OCPs. So it's that more of that multi-cam looking color. So also like kind of a
wait a minute, and I'll get into that in a second.
All I know is Skinn Walkers are people.
Medicine Man who practice like dark things to intimidate people they don't like.
Whether you believe they ship shift at all, they do exist, from my experience living in Arizona.
The Skinner Walker is more of a practice than a cryptic.
The Lord goes deeper and it's more supernatural, but the most rational Navajo stop at that point.
Skinner walkers are simply humans trying to be animals.
But this was different.
It felt like it was something trying to be human and failing pretty bad.
maybe it's my background or something, I don't know, but it just seemed off, like that uncanny valley crap.
I don't think there's a cryptid on the books to describe it, but I do think there's a reason why the uncanny valley evolved in humans.
A lot of people hear these stories of creatures chasing them and seem to go seem off, right?
They go, oh, it's a Skinwalker, but I don't think that's accurate.
What I saw, what I'm describing is more like a predator that evolve from us.
It uses like its intellect to lure us and kill us.
Maybe it's learning to speak with us.
It learns to understand our mentalities, but I don't think they're shapeshifers.
I think they're like mimics.
They try to get,
they try to pretend like this,
but they sometimes like fail.
It's hard to get evidence for them
because they're exactly like us.
But if you look at serial killers,
the pathology and brain chemistry
are just way different.
Maybe it's just part of that mutation
that makes them these things.
So what's funny about that story is like,
I get a lot of stories about people seeing soldiers
that are outside of their little area
that wear the wrong uniform,
have the wrong stuff on,
have out of character,
the uniform like they're wearing,
no, the winter,
gear in like summer heat and or they they like are standing weird walking weird and i just found
that kind of interesting i don't know if you want to like he said he doesn't think it's a skin walker
he's under the the idea that there's something else that we're mistaking for a skin walker and it's
like this thing that's trying to like trick us and mimic us uh because i get a lot of stories from
forebending about tall weird things that look like humans but when you get a closer look are not
humans that's interesting i wonder what that is i wonder what that is or bending is weird
man.
I don't know.
The way he described it where
like it was walking,
but it felt uncomfortable walking,
trying to walk like a human and stuff.
The imagery in my head pops up of the
movie Men in Black with Will Smith,
the first one where the aliens wearing the Eggersuit
and he's walking real weird and stuff
because he can't figure it out.
And what's the funny thing is too is like they're wearing OCPs,
right? And like,
OCPs are like one of the most hated camel patterns ever
because it stands out, it doesn't blend in.
And like when the army got rid of
that the only way you're going to find it now is on like old gear that they issue out to you.
And for the most part, if people want to pretend like they're the bad guys, right, they're going to wear like the old woodling cameras.
It would make it very obvious, right? So I found that really weird that these, maybe these things went to the clothing and the old was a vintage store and bought a bunch of ACUs being like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is how I'll look like them.
And they get out there and realize that everybody else was wearing something different. I don't know.
Oh, 6-3, though, this is a big guy.
Yeah, that's, it's pretty big.
It's pretty big.
I don't know.
That's really interesting, though.
I would love to know more details of those experiences guys are having there.
I mean, that's really interesting.
Yeah, especially at Fort Benning, that's a pretty common one.
I've gotten like at least four or five other ones like that, like really tall figure that does look like it's human, but it doesn't quite seem right.
or like its arms are too long or its legs bend too strangely.
Yeah, Four Benning's one of those weird places.
It's like Fort Polk, some weird stuff.
Wow.
So we'll get into this next story.
And so this was more recent one I got.
So this is about a guy's dad when he was in Afghanistan.
He saw something I thought was really weird that I've also connected to some other
stores I've gotten.
So it starts off with my dad.
He is on watching this deserted village on the top of a mountain facing.
north. He and his group are situated at a wall
overlooking this village. Along the village, there's
this other wall. Now, this wall
has doors leading up to a small square spaces,
which are most likely homes.
This is about roughly 30 to 40
feet, so keep that in mind. So my dad
is mounted on this wall, and he's looking into the valley
they're situated on. He has a 50 cow on a
tour of some kind. I can't recall what he said, but I do know
it was a 50 cow. He's also got
MVGs and other night vision equipment
with thermals. I don't really know
the correct answer to this, so bear with me, but
he is sitting there on the wall and he sees this
man through his thermals walking down a mountain about 500 meters from his group.
This is unusual because it's two to three in the morning, and this man is just casually walking
around this abandoned village at 2 in the morning. He sees him and starts closely watching him.
He says as this man turns and very obviously begins to look at him, but as he looks at him,
he just keeps walking. But he's walking weirdly, and as he keeps walking, it gets more weird to the
point he drops on all fours, and my dad swears he turns into a whole panther, complete with tail.
he thought he was sleep deprived
if they had spent all night driving to get there.
He rubbed his eyes and he's trying to wake his buddy
he called his buddy named Cooter
as well as his first sergeant
on his first appointment.
So he's throwing these discarded caliber rounds
at his group to get him to wake up but they're not waking up.
You look through his MVGs again
or something and he saw this thing jump onto the wall.
When it jumps on the wall, it was about
60 to 100 meters away from him.
He starts yelling and the guys woke up and he told them
what he saw. They're all laughing at him
and telling him he just saw things, but he knew
what he saw and he stood by it. The next night, though, was his friend's turn, and he sees the
same thing, but it got closer. So my head's friend, Cooter, woke up my dad, and that's when he said
he saw it. And they were both freaking out. And they both knew that they had seen some type of
panther down there. So what's interesting about that story that I like is, in the very beginning
of the page, I got a bunch of stories about people who had seen black panthers in Afghanistan.
So Afghanistan does have endemic snow panthers. They're super, super rare.
but like and they're super super hard to find
they live up in the mountains but people were reporting
like black man panthers in like
Chuck Valley and like some other places
supposedly some people I got pictures
of it haven't really got a chance to look at those yet
but I always wonder when I saw that story I was like
huh
maybe it was it a cat
maybe was a cat of some type
that that is interesting
so did Cooter see
the Panther turn from like
you know did do the transformation
or did he just see the black panther
Did he say in this?
He just saw the Black Panther like on the wall, but it was closer.
So that that wall that was like 20 to 30 feet from them, he saw like down on the edge like,
oh shit, it's coming at me right now.
Jeez.
That's crazy.
So collecting these stories, man, has all the stories that you've been collecting
changed your mindset as to what you once perceived to be either fictional or real?
I mean, has your perspectives changed it all by?
getting so many stories?
Oh yeah, I can definitely say
definitely I've always had the interest in this stuff
like but I have kind of always kind of
approached it with a skeptic view.
Like disclaimer, I kind of, I take all these stories
as they're told to me.
So like most of the time I could tell
when somebody's trying to pull a fast one on me
because the story doesn't make sense with anything
military would do.
Like there was a story about a guy.
He's like, oh, I saw like these CIA type of people
driving black suburbans in Afghanistan.
I'm like, really, like, you're in one of the most dangerous places in Afghanistan, and people are driving black suburbs.
Like, this isn't the movies guy.
Like, nice one.
And I also have read plenty of creepyposses in green text to know, like, yeah, I've read this before.
This is on, this was on no sleep where it was very obvious.
It was fiction.
So nice one.
But for the most part, people that come forward to stories, I do wholeheartedly believe them.
And it's definitely changed my perspective on things because it makes me go back.
think like, huh, like, you know, some of these places I was at, too,
and we could talk about that later, but like, some of these places I was at, too,
and I don't remember, like, there's some weird stuff there for sure.
So there's definitely something to it.
I haven't had anything too outlandishly crazy that's, like, blown my mind to make me, like,
question everything.
But I do appreciate members, and I want people to know in the, like, the military communities,
like, that have seemed weird things they can't explain that you're not alone.
and like there are people that believe you and want to hear your story, you know.
So I just hope that message gets to people and they understand that.
I just hope it's also interesting for everyone else so they can hear these stories.
You know, just because like you said, it's kind of hard for military people to open up to non-military.
And I'm hoping that this will be that way so people can have that shared experience and learn from those shared experiences.
That's awesome, man.
Let's people know what the Instagram is once again.
It's like Tales from the Grid Square.
So at Tails underscore from underscore the underscore grid square.
Awesome, man.
People need to go to that Instagram and hit follow and read these stories.
I mean, you have tons on there right now.
And you said to me, you have what, like months worth of posts that you haven't even posted yet?
Yeah, I think me, if I look at my phone right now, I have enough for.
So they come and go.
I've been going through them pretty quick.
So I think right now,
because I try to keep it down to two posted days,
I keep the people,
give the people what they want.
I got, let's see, 48, 50,
I have 64 stories to still post.
That's awesome.
The more people that follow,
the more people that can submit,
that's what I want.
I'm not making any money off of this.
So this is just kind of like a crazy hobby now that I started.
Perfect, man.
All right.
Well, listen,
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And if you're a member, you know what to do.
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Thanks, Nick.
Awesome.
Thank you, Tony.
Thanks for having me on.
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Thursday with more of these tales from the Gridswear.
Awakened from the forest in the depths of the abyss. This creature is a paradigm of time lost
and time itself. It fears no one. It adheres to
to no rule that man can create.
It forges its own path, and yet its path remains hidden from the world.
The sphere of his existence is beyond most comprehension,
as it exudes its power quietly but transcendent.
It needs no one's approval to exist,
but yet its very existence is sought after by many.
It watches.
It learns.
Adapt to the ever-changing,
environment around it, even as the environment is wrought with corruption.
It battles the corruption only when pressed or for the protection of others like it.
It is a mirage that few will ever understand.
It's a cornucopia of knowledge from an era, long past.
It's free.
It's Bigfoot.
My fantasy's always consisted of making it big.
My soul is nothing more than a bargaining chip.
Marketing is what they tell you to do and what you're willing to give.
Larpin to the fullest extent
I don't wait I shoot first like hide on a rodean
And people don't understand me like reading a nocian
Stretch thin like pulling in accordion
My heart ain't primordium
All these historians telling us lies
The genocide everything is medicalized
Politicians selling the ride
A better mid-dieuade where the relevance lies
They're dressing a light reptilians
My resilience is brilliant
I'm here to lead the rebellion on alien salient alien
Alien with no melanin
I'm a Yeti ain't hiding from Armagedean
Come hiding
We ain't the same
