The Confessionals - RELOADED | 428: Childhood Abductions

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

In Episode 428: Childhood Abductions we are talking with Robert. He has had a wild life of experiences with abductions where as a child he would be checked on by aliens only to be rejected because according to them he was "flawed." The police were called once because his parents were convinced their house was broken into but when the police narrowed the breaking and entering to Roberts's room he knew it wasn't a human that came in. He lived his whole life with the memories of these experiences and recently it all came full circle. Robert met his girlfriend's friend and this friend tells him that she too was abducted as a child. She also tells him that she recognizes him because when she was being abducted as a child the aliens would frequently stop at his house and she would see him through the window. This friend then proceeds to describe Robert's childhood home perfectly for him proving that she was present during his abductions.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Welcome to the show, everybody you're listening to The Confessionals. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you've a crazy wild experience, you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email or go to the website, theconfessionalspodcast.com, hit the contact section and you can reach me that way as well. Either it works for me, just get a hold of me. If you want to hear more shows on a weekly basis on Thursdays, we release members-owned

episodes to the website and the app, the Castos app. So if you wouldn't have access to that, plus all the Tuesday shows ad-free and the overtime segments for the Tuesday shows, go to the confessionalspodcast.com, hit the join button and become a member today. All right, friends, we got Robert coming on the show today. And Robert is somebody who has dealt with alien abductions in his childhood. And the interesting thing is with his abduction scenario that he remembers, he has it confirmed with somebody who was there being a abducted as well. And he didn't know this person, but later in life, they reconnected. And he was really absolutely amazed that somebody else was able to confirm the experience because they were being

abducted as well. So let's get to Robert right now. All right. Today we got Robert on the show. Robert, how are you, man? Not bad. How are you doing? Doing good, brother. Doing good. So Robert, you're up there in southwest Michigan. And you're just telling me about the Bigfoot sighting that happened up there recently. And it's an interesting one because it stopped traffic and multiple people called 911 about it. And that's what those are the interesting ones when you get that because it's just like multiple witnesses. They all called the police. And so you have on record people calling in hysteria probably saying there's a giant beast walking across the road on two feet. Right. And the 911 operator is like, it's probably a bear, right? Uh, no.

Well, the news kind of played it off like a joke, too. Of course. In the local, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the way it always works and stuff. It's like, oh, and today in the weird corner today, we have another Bigfoot sighting, right? Yeah. So, listen, man, you have, I have, I got to tell you straight up right now for the last,

at last 10, 15 seconds, I've had some serious deja vu, like serious deja vu. Like, I have this image in my head of talking about the big. foot with you and seeing and seeing you on my screen. And I'm actually talking to you on a different screen than I normally do. Usually I'm on one more screen over. And I have this whole deja vu thing. And I was going to ignore it, but it just kept going. That's trippy. It's trippy, man. Crazy. Let me tell you something. Before we get into your story, let me tell you a story real quick. The craziest deja vu experience, everybody's had deja vu. But the craziest one I had, I was in Texas with West German from Sasquatch Chronicles. And we were doing a lot of,

show in Houston. And we were in the hotel room like the night before, something like that. And he was working on some audio. And I was sitting in a chair in the room. We were just talking. And he stops. And he says, man, I'm having some serious deja vu right now. And I was like, dude, I'm having deja vu right now. We were both having the same deja vu. It was the trippiest thing. I don't know, Matrix much. I don't know. But there was a glitch. There was a glitch. So listen, you have E.T. experiences. And when you were, now this is something new for you to be talking about. You were mentioning before, you can fill the audience in as well as to kind of how new this is for you to be talking about this. But when you were a child, these things would come and visit you. So what I

want you to do is kind of start from your earliest memory of how this stuff started for you and then how these experiences progressed throughout your life. And, you know, just take it away, man. Well, it, I grew up, give you some background. I grew up southwest Michigan. I never moved out of the area. Had a Christian home or upbringing and I had both parents in the home, real solid home life. Two, I was diagnosed with severe asthma. I had allergy induced asthma, exercise induced asthma. And my dad used to joke, you know, you're one allergy shy of being in a bubble. I was allergic to everything. And our house was located right off the highway on a backcountry road, and behind our house was the woods. And from the time I was, I checked my notes here,

from the time I was about six to about the age of 13, I would have these asthma attacks in the middle of the night, like all the time. And my mom used to come in at two, three o'clock in the morning and, you know, kind of soothed me, give me some medicine and stuff like that. And I never, I'm sure some of it was related to, you know, allergy dust or whatever. But one thing I never told anybody until recently, growing up from, like I said, from the time I was six, on the back of it. of our house we had a halogen light that kind of would come on at dusk and stay on all night.

It was kind of a security measure because we lived so close to the highway. It wasn't uncommon to get strangers walking up to the house that were stranded. Can I use your phone? You know, just so they never knew who was going to be coming around. So at night, this thing would come on. And about the age of six, I can remember the first time I was sleeping and I felt this little tapping noise on the window. And we didn't have blinds or anything on the back of the window, curtains because it faced the woods. You know, there's no need for privacy. And I remember

thinking it was really strange because it was like dead quiet all the time. And I remember I rolled over and looked and the only way I can describe it is, you ever watch SpongeBob? You've got kids. Yeah, I mean, shoot, SpongeBob came out as a kid. The closest thing I can explain to the shape of the head was Squidward. Makes sense. Without the nose. I remember looking over and it had three slits where the nose would be, like three slits in its face and just a slit for a mouth and just these black, black guys.

But what was weird was it had like an inner, an inner light. like it was glowing in the dark almost. And I noticed that the halogen light was off. Well, I'm laying in there and I'm petrified. And I like hide underneath my covers and pull the covers up over. And I hear this voice in my head that says, he's flawed. And it was gone. And I scared it, went into an asthma attack.

And I can remember my mom coming in. And when she came in, he must have been gone because she didn't see him. And she's giving me my medicine and whatnot. Well, that started reoccurring like every couple months to the age I was 13, to the point where it would come up. And as soon as the halogen light would go off, I would panic. I would be like I knew what was coming. And it wasn't anything that I could talk to my parents about because we came from a strict Christian.

home and to them that type of entity was demonic and you know i'm six seven eight nine years old and scared to death to say anything to anybody and um as it as it would show up periodically i mean it never it never came in the house it never um attempted to take me nothing um but i would always get that voice in my head so he's flawed and they would disappear. But I just remember them, I don't know why. If they tap on the window, just, I don't know. But I do know, I used to think that I was having bad nightmares at first because naturally you just put it out of your head, you're that little, and you don't think it's real. And our house got broken into one summer somebody from the highway, we were on vacation, came, looted our house.

Well, the police came and they were dusting for fingerprints and stuff, and they dusted my window, and there was a three-fingered print on my window, and I about soiled myself. I was the only one that looked at it and went, thinking in my head, I'm like, I know what that is. And I'm not saying anything, and they're like, oh, you know, he must be an amputee, you know, missing fingers, missing. and I'm not saying anything to anybody.

So I carried that through the age of 13. And I think a lot of because of the constant, he's flawed, he's flawed, he's flawed, it really carried over into my adult life. You get that constant message. But I'm trying to think where I'm going with us now. I've got all these messages. I'm trying to stay in contact with you.

And then when I was little too, I had a friend spend the night. I think I was probably 10 or 11. And it happened in the middle of the night while he was sleeping. And I remember looking over at him thinking, I wish he'd wake up so he could see what I see. And when he came to breakfast the next morning, he said, man, I had the craziest dream last night. You know, I dreamed that, you know, there was an alien in the house. And I kind of like sat back a little bit. And he's like, yeah, it was just a dream, though.

and how do you, it's very hard for a kid to hold that in and not be able to talk to anybody about it. But it's, like I said, I'm just now talking about it because I was explaining to you that, you know, I've been talking to a counselor because I've had other issues, you know, within the last year and finally getting it out and explaining, you know, kind of what happened to me. It's very, it feels good to get it out. The only person I've really talked about any experience with is my girlfriend, and she hasn't judged me at all. And I'll get into that later about she's got a friend that she put me in contact with that I was like, what? But after 13 and dealing with all that, I went to, I was going through high school.

and I had like low self-esteem and a lot of it was because of the asthma. I couldn't play sports and stuff and the constant years of that, you know, he's flawed, he's flawed, he's flawed. I did develop a group of friends and stuff and we went to a party and somebody broke out a Ouija board, which I am a, I don't recommend anybody ever messing with. You know, I don't understand why they put them in toy stores, why they make them so accessible, because I'm a firm believer that they cause a lot of damage. And we were playing with it. My best friend and I, there was a group of maybe six or eight of us there. And we asked the question, you know, how are we going to die?

And it came back car accident. And we kind of blew it off being teenagers and stuff. And then a year after graduation, he passed away and he died in a car accident. And I'm a firm believer that from that point on of using that Ouija board, I think we opened something up because ever since then, I have had a depressive demeanor to me. I don't know if there was a spirit of depression that came out of there that attached itself. But from that time up until just this last year, I mean, I have fought depression like nobody's business, just constant negative thoughts. And I can remember my parents saying, you know, what would make you happy? I can't think of anything.

It's like no matter what we do, we can pay off all your bills. We could buy your house. And you wouldn't be happy. I'm like, no. And I'm a firm believer that my mental state now goes back to the negative reinforcement from the thoughts that I was getting and that Ouija board. But that's kind of where the mental state I'm at now. But going into my, then I ended up after high school getting married.

And that's where I went in. I started getting into a religion, because I had a religion background. I mean, growing up, I had a foundation. But I had a lot of questions going through what I went through. and the only way I could find answers was through the church. And I ended up, I really felt like I had a calling to go in to be a pastoral, in a pastoral capacity. So I went into that, and that's where things really started.

Once I gave myself to God and said, hey, look, you know, I'm going to listen to what you're telling me to do, and I'm going to go by blind faith and just let you lead. and that's when things just kind of just kind of broke loose. But, you know, we had paranormal experiences that I would go with my pastor, you know, people that were dealing with tarot cards and they had, you know, spirits in their house and things were moving. And I think from the Ouija board and then into that, it just slowly snowballed into kind of where I'm at now in my house,

there are, my girlfriend and I were sitting on the couch. I know I'm going through this kind of fast. So if you have questions. No, it's fine. Share whatever you want, however you want to share it. But like I said, I'm lucky enough to have a girlfriend now after two marriages that I couldn't tell either one of my wives about what was going on. upstairs it was a total mental torture it's like you want to tell them what this is why i am the way i am but you don't want to tell them because they're going to think you're nuts um but my girlfriend

now uh we were sitting down watching tv and i don't remember what we were watching but there's a like if we're sitting on the couch and we're looking at the tv right to the left of the tv is the hallway that goes the length of the house and we're sitting there and all of a sudden I saw a head, a shadow head, peek around the corner of the, and I almost jumped back and jumped off the couch. She said, what's the matter? I'm like, did you see that? And she's like, I don't know what you're talking about.

And then five minutes later, she saw a full body shadow run on the other wall back down the hallway. And she's like, I saw that. So she packed up and went home. She's like, I'm not staying tonight. You know, good luck. So, but a couple days, maybe a week goes by, and I'm talking to her on the phone, and I'm like, you're not going to believe this. I said, I'm watching, and it was maybe 10 or 11 o'clock at night.

So where I live, there's no headlights, there's no main traffic. I live in a subdivision. And on the wall, there was this black stripe that was maybe 18 inches wide. It started in one corner and moved across. the wall in front of the TV because it blocked out the picture and all the way across the wall and stopped. At this point, I'm like, this isn't good. And I'm thinking back to the Ouija board. And I'm thinking back to everything. It's like, what did I pick up along the way? And so I called her and she's like, well, you're scared? I said, no, I don't feel scared. I just, I'm trying to, my brain is

trying to process us like looking to see if you know maybe I left the microwave door open and the light was the door was opening and the light was trying to troubleshoot it and I cannot figure out what's going on so another week goes by and the same thing happens but only when it goes to the end of the wall it continued to the front door and it changed into a human shape now I now I'm freaking yeah and so I left I went and stayed at a hotel because I just, I didn't want to provoke it. I don't want to talk to it. I don't want to communicate with it.

I don't want to do anything. Well, some time goes by again, and I'm talking to my neighbor who has lived in this area since it was developed. And I'm just talking and she goes, and I asked her about the previous owners because I met the wife. And she goes, well, you know, his husband died in the house. And I'm like, what did you say? And she's like, he died in the house.

She was out planting flowers. And he had a heart attack in the bedroom at the end of the hall. And he was trying to make it outside to let her know he was having trouble. And he died in the doorway. And my skin just went cold. I mean, I'm like, I mean, how would she know? And to me, that was just like a confirmation of I wasn't imagining. I wasn't.

So I haven't had anything happen in the last couple weeks. and the only thing that that has occurred is my daughter, her bedroom is upstairs. And she come out one morning or one night and said, I'm not sleeping in my room anymore. And I didn't tell her what was going on. And I'm like, well, what's wrong? And she goes, there was a witch coming in my window last night. Really? And how old is she?

Right now she's 14. This what happened last year when she was 13. Okay. And she's like, there's a witch coming in my window. And I'm like, what? And she's like, there's a witch coming in my window. I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about. And she goes, well, somebody with a black hood was standing outside my window

and was blocking out the light. And they were knocking on the window trying to get in. So I went out there. I didn't see anybody. And she goes, I don't want to this day, she won't go. She moved all of her stuff downstairs. She wanted me to build her a bedroom in the basement. She will not go in that room.

and I still don't know what it was if it was another another entity or what it was, but she is, she won't, won't go in that room, won't have anything to do with it. Has she ever tried, I mean,

I'm assuming this is, the answer is no, but have you ever had her try to sit down and draw what she saw? Mm-hmm. Nope, I probably should. Is she willing to talk about this with you or is something that she doesn't like talking about?

she won't even if you mention it she just she's like I want to talk about it and she'll leave she's pretty she's an internal person she's not a real she's not a social person she kind of introverted but um it was enough to get my attention and uh my my boy has never had a problem here but um I just thought it was coincidental that I was having issues and then all of a sudden because they don't live here full time they live with their mom so they come every other weekend and so she wouldn't have the exposure that I would have and it just so happened that night. Man, that's rough. Right.

And I've also had times where we were in there sleeping. And you've heard of sleep, well, I know you've heard of sleep paralysis. Yeah. But I can remember sleeping in about 2 o'clock in the morning. I wake up. And I literally, I could smell like a rotten. rotten meat smell and I I could feel breath on my face but I couldn't open I don't know if I couldn't open my eyes or I didn't want to open my eyes I just I've never felt that much terror in my

life that there was something right there right outside my face that I think if I would open my eyes I think I would have I've been terrorized um but I my first thought was to roll over and wake her up I couldn't I couldn't roll over I was the literal frozen with fear I just I couldn't do anything. I could smell it and I could feel the heat from the breath on my cheek. And I could not roll over. I couldn't say anything. I could tell her about it the next morning.

But I did, and not to go back. And I'm horrible telling stories. You're doing fine. You're doing fine. But when I was younger, when I was a child during that time, I started having these dreams. well, it wasn't dreams, it was a dream over and over and over again, that I was in, well, I was actually, I don't know how to describe it. I had like a metal cage around my head, like a cube almost, and it sounds really weird, but I added this cube.

And I remember the devil standing in front of me with a scepter, and he kept telling me, I'm going to destroy you. And I remember thinking, if I make a run for it, there was like a wall of fire around us. And if I could make a run for it and get through the fire, I would be safe. And he, I remember him saying, go for it, you know. And I would make, and every time I would run up to the wall of fire, it would engulf. It would just, and I couldn't get through it. And I had that dream, I hundreds of times, all growing up. I would wake up in the middle of night with night terrors and sweating.

And then for a couple years, probably about 10 years, it went away didn't have anything. And then the first time I was married, it reoccurred again. And now lately it's been, I've been having the same dream, probably the last three years, probably about three times a week. And probably in the last couple weeks, I've been having this. Instead of running up to the flame, I walk. through it and I come off the other side. Wow.

Yeah, it's kind of like... Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question with this. I can't remember if you said this on the show or if you said to me in private. So I'm just going to hint at it. You let me know. When did you start talking about your experiences with people? With people?

Like professional. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can say, I don't care. I'd see a counselor. I don't know if you said it or not on the show, but you know, and I don't. This is therapeutic for me. So this is, I mean, I'm an open book because when I was younger, I think I was eight years old. I was molested by like an older babysitter. She was probably in her 60s. So like I said, I have a lot of issues that I bring to the table. And so he's really earning his money at this point, you know. I'm sure. But when did you start seeking help from a counselor? And just to let the audience know, if case you haven't said it before yet, you have told your counselor about all this stuff. So, and that counselor even suggested that it would be a good idea for you to share some ways to be judgmental.

And that's why, yep, that's why I decided to do this. I've been talking to him for about a year. Okay. And so this is all still fairly fresh. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I'm trying to follow this thought. process that I have right now. You've been talking to him for about a year, and you just started having

the dream a couple weeks ago, you said, where you're actually walking through the fire? Yeah. Okay. When did you start feeling like you're having a turning point with all this stuff? Or have you even had a point where you feel like you're turning a corner, at least mentally? Because here's my thought. You've been having this dream your entire life. And it's this character of the in front of you. And what was he saying to you again? I can't remember. The only words he said was, I will destroy you. Okay. So I'm, my thought was, like I said, I thought I had a call. I felt like I had a calling to be a pastor in a pastoral capacity. And it was really strong. And I'm,

I kind of correlate that to that, like, I don't want you fighting on his side. I'm going to destroy you. I'm not going to allow you to work for God. That's the way. I perceived it. I think it could be perceived many ways. I think there's a lot of messaging that could be happening there. Because, like, for me, hearing your experience, I had this image and this thought in my head that the cage that was around your head meant, it was symbolized mental enslavement. And I feel like you spent an entire lifetime enslaving yourself. alone in a cell mentally where you couldn't share what you knew, you couldn't share what you

experienced the people. And recently, you started having a different dream where you're starting to walk through that fire. And I, if it hasn't happened yet, there might, I just had this sense. And I'm not a counselor. I'm just saying, I feel like you're either about to or you have started turning a corner mentally where maybe things would hopefully start getting better for you. But it's just, I find it really interesting that the dream has changed recently. And I had this feeling when you told me that the cage around the head, it made a lot of sense to me because of how you grew up, having all these experiences and not being able to tell anybody. It had to be very lonely. It was very, very lonely. And there was times in school that because I was so sickly,

I was underweight, it was not a lot of medicine. I couldn't, you know, drink milk. So I was very undernourished. And it wasn't due to my parents' fault. It was all medical. I did. I got picked on. I got bullied. At one point, I got shoved in a locker and urinated on. So there wasn't a lot to be happy about growing up. But to answer your question, probably in the last two months, I think I felt like I've turned the corner where things are starting to better outlook, better mental reasoning, better better vision of life. You know, I'm very grateful for the kids I have.

I'm grateful for most people wouldn't say it, my ex-wives, because I've learned a lot from two marriages. And in my last wife, we're still really good friends. You know, it wasn't a bitter divorce. It was we just knew it wasn't going to work. And we still co-parent. We still talk every day. And I'm lucky enough to have a girlfriend that gets along with her,

so we all get along. You know, it's just it all works out the way it's supposed to work out. But I think God is watching out and he knows how much you can handle and how much. And he puts people in your life, whether, you know, we were married or not married, but, you know, she was in my life for a reason. There was something I was supposed to learn and, you know, we were supposed to provide each other. And, you know, it did work out that way. But, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that I've dealt with over the last year losing my job. You know, I've got family issues that I'm dealing with.

It was very, very, going through the divorce, it was just really, really, it was a bad, bad year. But I do think that the starting out when I was younger, the connotation of he is flawed, he is flawed, that I put it off for so long and just buried it deep down inside that it just sat. there like dormant. And then it really, I started, I started remembering a lot of that stuff when my daughter was younger. And like I said, she would watch SpongeBob. And I couldn't figure out. It's like, why does this show bother me so much? I wouldn't let my wife buy her any SpongeBob toys. I hate if she watched SpongeBob. Because every time I looked at that Squidward, it was enough to remind me of what used to knock on the window. But with my girlfriend now, and this is where it comes full circle. This is really, I don't, I can't even believe it still blows

my mind. But when I was explaining to her what was going on and she says, well, you know my friend, so-and-so, you should talk to her. And I'm like, why? And she goes, because she's had an experience too. So I've met this woman maybe three times before. And I finally called her and we had a talk. and she goes, did you live in on? She described my house and I'm like, yeah, how would you? How would you know that? She goes, since I met you, you look familiar. And I'm like, she never looked familiar to me.

I never knew her day in my life. And she goes, I couldn't put my finger on it. She's like, then all of a sudden the color just ran out of her face. And she goes, oh, my God, I know where I know you from. And she just described my house. And she goes, you used to get visitations in the middle of the night. I went, yeah, this is what I'm explaining to her. and she goes, I used to see you when you were a kid because they used to take me.

And I'm like, holy crap. And she goes, she goes, I would wake up in the morning and I would have like three dots on my wrists that were in the shape of a triangle. And my parents used to think that I was putting like pen marks on in school and they used to get mad at me because she was like, shouldn't put ink on your skin. And she said, but they would abduct me. They would come in my room and abduct me. And she goes, and I used to tell my parents, and they just thought I was imagining things. She goes, but I remember your house. I remember them knocking on your window.

She was, I was in the woods. It was me and three other kids that were watching, watching them walk up to your house. And she described the back with the porch and everything. And she goes, and I could see you in the window. That's how close I was. And I mean, my skin just crawled. And to this day, she won't, she won't even talk to me. Now, because she buried that so deep down that she doesn't even want to, she doesn't want to remember it.

She doesn't want to deal with it. She doesn't, if I'm over there and she's talking to my girlfriend, you know, we'll invite her over. And she's like, if I do, I don't want to talk about, I mean, she's traumatized, like really, really traumatized. And she's like, I couldn't put my finger on the first time I met you. She goes, you look familiar. And I, and we live in two different states. and she goes, she started describing my house and she goes, that's where I know you from. And she goes, I find it hard to believe that we're actually meeting up after all this time.

That's incredible. Right. I mean, I'm getting goosebumps talking about it. But can I ask you, did she live in your neighborhood as a kid and she moved away? So they were abducting her from wherever she. She lived in northern Indiana. She grew up there with my girlfriend in northern Indiana. And I've always lived in southwest Michigan. So we would have had no contact whatsoever.

None. So they were like, it was like a, it was like a truck route, you know? Every day is the same thing. So they stopped get her. They stopped by your place. And it was like a routine. I don't know if she was there every single time they came. Okay.

But I know at least one time. And for whatever reason, she remembered me. Wow. Right. So I've tried to talk to her again, kind of pick her brain, and she just, she doesn't want to, it was enough to spark the fear. And she tells her all the time, I wish I'd have never talked to him. I just, I just wish I never talked to him. She goes, now it's back in my head again, and I'm always afraid they're going to show up.

But she said she hasn't had any issue since she was a kid, but now she's afraid again. That's crazy, man. That's freaking bonkers. That's bonkers. Right. What are the odds that your girlfriend's friend was being abducted and then part of the abduction is stopping by your house and she remembers you from that? That's insane. And I know she wasn't lying.

The look on her face, I mean, if you've ever seen anybody that, you know, saw something that just shocked them beyond that just blew their mind. I mean, the open mouth, the color just running out like, oh, yeah, it was a. it was a moment that I thought she was messing with me. She was making fun of me. And then her reaction was kind of was genuine, was actually genuine. And how would she describe my house? Never, I mean, she's never seen any pictures or anything from when I was a kid. There's no way she could describe it.

That's what sealed the deal for me. Yeah. It makes you feel almost like there's something that's not random about this later in life. not that experience, forget that. I don't know what the heck's going on there with the only abductions. Everybody, everybody asks me, what do you think? I don't freaking know. But right now, it leaves you feeling like her being in your life to whatever extent it is through your girlfriend.

It doesn't strike me as random. Even though you want to say it's random as like, oh, what a coincidence. It doesn't feel that random to me. I don't know if anybody listening to your story feels that way. I don't know if you feel that way, but it just gives me the sense of, almost as if like there's an attractive nature to this, where it's like some of these people might be attracted to each other, no matter how far apart you are, you're going to find yourselves back near each other again. And maybe there's a reason why she was abducted that night and they were looking to abduct you

before they called you, quote unquote, flawed. You know, maybe there was something about you that fit the puzzle. that they were putting together with her. I don't know. It's very strange, though. What do you think? Do you think it's just completely random or do you think there might have been something else to it? No, I think because it happens so regularly, like so many times over, you know, seven years.

I don't think it was random at all. I mean, and they never came like, I can't say they came like every Thursday, every month or anything. And, you know, sometimes there would be a month gap and sometimes there'd be three months gap. but I feel like there's a thread. I guess that's the best way to put that there's a thread between her and I that is non-visual that I don't know. I mean, to this day, if I look at, I don't have any, I don't feel like I have a connection to her,

but there's something that makes us, something that we have in common that we can't see. that you just can't put your finger on. Yeah. You know, it's, it really has a, and I talked about this before on the show, and I don't, I don't have a firm grasp of understanding of it. I don't think a lot of people do, so I feel comfortable talking about knowing that. But the quantum level, the quantum realm, it gives me that sense because one of the things

that I've heard described with the quantum realm is that you could have like an atom, you know, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and another atom in San Francisco, California, but on a quantum level, they're still connected. Like, I'm saying, I should have said, if you split an atom in half, and so physically you're looking at it, you know, two different pieces now. One's on each side of the country. But on a quantum realm, they're still attached to the point where if this atom over here in Philly does something, the simultaneously, the one in San Francisco will do it as well.

So there's some kind of string or cord attached. these things on a quantum level. And it just makes you feel like what you just described made me feel like it's almost like a quantum entanglement, quantum attachment. It's interesting. It's very interesting. Right. No, I agree with that 100%. I think there's forces out there that we can't see and that we don't understand. And I mean, even in the Bible, it says, you know, there's things that that you won't understand that man will never understand. And I think that's part of it. I mean,

I've never had an experience with Bigfoot. I've never had an experience with dogman, but I have my beliefs and my theories as to why they're out there. You know, I've gone back and forth with family and friends and stuff. And, you know, nobody's going to convince me that they're not there. But I,

the hardest part for me right now is when my kids were little. You know, all kids that are afraid of monsters and stuff. And I just had to talk like maybe two years with two years ago with my kids because they got a little older. I was like, you know, I told you. I said there weren't monsters. I'm like, there's monsters. You're old enough to understand. There are monsters out there.

I'm not going to lie to you. And I said, you know, I told them about, you know, the big foot sighting that we had up here. And my boy was like, oh, that's, I'm like, prove to me that it's not. You know, there's no. I mean, I understand. with the nephalum and the falling of the angels and mating with the, I'm a firm believer in that, that whole theory that it could be a race of fallen angels and the residual effect of all that. I believe in all that. But I don't want my kids growing up thinking that there's not forces

out there because they need to be prepared. I mean, I'm not just going to tell me how there's boogiemen, but I just tell them keep an open mind because once you go through life with a closed mind, you're going to be surprised at every turn. You have to have an open mind. Have you told your kids about your experiences? They know about the dream, and they know about the shadows, but I've never told them about the alien, the visitation from the ET. Yeah, I mean, one, I imagine if you were afraid to tell your wife,

then I imagine there's still nervousness about telling your kids because if it gets back to your wife, she might be like, you're not seeing your dad anymore, you know? Exactly. I have to pick and choose my battles. Yeah. I mean, one day, though, one day, though, when they're old enough, I mean, you could tell them. And if you want to, it comes up in conversation, you're like, listen, this is why I believe that you can't rule anything out because this is what I experienced, you know? Oh, absolutely.

And I've had, you know, my daughter, we've watched TV shows, and she's like, aliens aren't real. And I'm like, you know, they are real, you know. The Bible says that we are not to keep throwing religion in it, but the Bible says we are created in his image. It doesn't say that we were the only ones made. It just says we were created in his image. There's no reason that he couldn't have created, he can do anything he wants. He could have created a whole other race out there. And nowhere in the Bible does it.

say we are the only ones in the universe. So good, bad, indifferent, not saying I'm right or I'm wrong, I'm just saying I'm keeping an open mind to the possibilities of God. He could do anything he wanted to do. And honestly, man, that's, I think the best way to go about it. And paranormal ET, Bigfoot dog, man, whatever you want to talk about aside, when it comes to somebody who is a theistic person who say they believe in an omnipotent God, the worst thing you can do is to put that omnipotence of that God in a box for your own comfort.

Absolutely. If that God is so big that the Bible says it's impossible for you to comprehend, that what makes you think you can comprehend any feasible action that he might want to take? You don't. And so that's where I look at things. People ask me sometimes about how I, you know, make sense of my. my mind about the alien idea and being a Christian. For me, it's not even an issue. It's not even an issue. Like, could aliens be demonic entities? Sure, why not? But could aliens be something

from an interdimensional galaxy far away or come here? Why? Like, we can talk about, like, how long it takes for something to come through space and is it even possible that came from somewhere else that physically in the universe, not talking interdimensionally, we can talk about all that stuff. but the idea of an intelligence being on another planet somewhere far off in our galaxy or another galaxy and stuff to say on a theistic level it's impossible because God wouldn't do that is basically saying you understand all motives that God could ever want. If God wanted to do it, he'll do it. And he doesn't need to explain himself to you.

And that's just, that's how I look at. I mean, honestly, there's a lot of people out there that believe that aliens are demons. And I'm one of those people in a sense where I do believe that some alien interaction, ET-looking interaction, is more demonic than anything else. But for me to say all of it's 100% demonic, I'm very cautious to say that because that, again, would be putting my theistic God in a box that I believe is so big that I can't comprehend them. And it's like, well, that doesn't make sense to do that then. Right.

And by nature, we're curious. We want to know. And I don't think there's anything wrong with looking into it. But I think with me personally, I have to keep myself in check because you can dive into it so deep that you forget about what's going on day to day. It actually causes division between what you're trying to do day to day, keeping your faith, keeping your eye on the prize. And it's easy to get diverted into really focusing on trying to figure something out that doesn't really affect your day to day. It draws your attention away from what's important. that's yeah no i totally agree that's why i feel about flat earth like i like i i'm just like i i mean

there are people out there that believe in flat earth and has changed their life for for the better they're a better person today than they were yesterday because they they started believing in the flat earth and they became a more pleasurable person to be around and and all that right and i and it's awesome uh but for me i'm just like this if the earth is flat and i find out tomorrow. The earth is flat. I'm going to wake up tomorrow and still have all the things I had to do tomorrow on the docket. And it's not like I don't, I don't see it changing my life one bit. So I don't, I don't really care. Like, I just, I just don't care if the earth is flat. If it's a globe, if it's a bowl so that we can have the flat earth plus the hollow earth theory. I don't know.

Like I would only change how deep I dig a hole. That's the only thing. Exactly. I don't want to fall through. Oh, man. But, but, but yeah, man, I, I, I totally hear you. Now, with these experiences that you went through throughout your life, I mean, we have the paranormal stuff with the Ouija board that kind of, it seems like the Ouija board gave you a little bit of a transition period in your life where you not only had ET interaction, but now you were dealing with more spiritual stuff as well. Is that how you view it as well? Yeah, yeah. I wish I would have never, never touched it. Because like I said, from that point, I can, I can trace it back to that point that my whole demeanor, I went from,

like I said, I had self-esteem issues, but having friends in high school, I kind of put a mask on, if you will. You know, I had friends and stuff, and I was joking around and stuff, but deep down, I was, I was hurting. And I think I can trace it back to that point. That's when it all, I started having relationship problems. That's why I had two marriages. that didn't work. And I had trouble hanging on to a girlfriend.

It's like I always, I would never trust people because of everything that happened in the past with the babysitter, with being told I was flawed time and time and time again. And as twisted as it sounds, this sounds really weird, but I remember telling the counselor, I'm like, he's like, well, how did that make you feel? And I said, I said, I was kind of torn because I wanted to know why they wouldn't take me. why am I flawed? You know, why aren't I good enough to? And not that I wanted to go because I didn't.

I mean, they scared the crap out of me. But when I got older, I started thinking about it. I'm like, well, what was wrong with me? Why would you take me? I'm not good enough to probe or I'm not good enough to, you know, you start doubting everything. Your self-esteem is so low. And it's, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

You know, so you're even questioning the bad things. Why aren't I, you know, what's, what's wrong with me that? You won't even treat me bad, you know? Why won't you do the butt stuff with me? Right. That's so funny. No, but you, I mean, I'm assuming you made the connection that the flawedness is the asthma. Yeah, I'm 99% sure that that's what it was.

Yeah. I mean, that's, I mean, I'm glad you told us about the asthma because when you said flawed, that's, I mean, to me, that's a no-brainer. I mean, if there's respiratory issues with your body, you have a flaw that they wouldn't be interested in, I'm sure. And so, I mean, and it's not even that major because many people, but it's the same thing with, I don't think you can have asthma being the military. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of qualifiers for the military. Oh, absolutely.

I tried. I tried after high school to get in the Air Force. And I made it as far as the first couple weeks of boot camp. And then it started showing itself and I got dismissed. Yeah. But yeah, I'm 99% sure it was it was the asthma. I can't think of anything else that it would be. But I never understood why they would,

why they thought anything would change for years. They just, and they would tap on the window and I would see that glow in the window. And, you know, I could see their head moving. I could see the nostrils flaring all three of them. And they would have their hand on the glass. And I would instantly go into an asthma attack. And my mom would hear me gasping for breath. And every time they'd come in, he'd be gone.

Or it would be gone. I don't know if it was he or she. But yeah, so they never. And she's like, they would take me to the doctors. Like, he has these asthma attacks all the time. You know, we're doing the anti-allergen pillow. Oh, we're doing all this other stuff. We're giving them his medicine.

And how am I going to, as a 6, 7, 8 year old, how am I going to expect, well, it's the people at the window. You know, I already had enough medical problems. I didn't need them to think I had mental problems too, you know. Yeah. But it was very alarming. And I don't want to say I got used to it because I don't think I ever got used to it. I was expectant of it because I could hear, I remember the light would go off. that would be the trigger.

As soon as a light would go off, because the light never went off unless they showed up. And I would hear the rustling. I had leaves outside my window. I would hear the shuffling in the leaves. And then all of a sudden, it would be like, just like if you took like something like a,

I don't know, like a nail and tapped it, it was just a real sharp little tap. And I don't know if they were trying to wake me up or if they wanted to see if I would interact. I never left my bed. I could see them. But part of me was like, I don't want to give them the satisfaction of knowing that I'm scared or if I hide long enough, maybe they'll leave me alone.

But I would always get that mental message of he's flawed and then they would go. And that was, I mean, it was nothing exciting, nothing. You know, I can't say that, you know, I've levitated in my bed. I can't say that, you know, I saw little people running up and down the hot. It was nothing like that. It was very uneventful, but it was enough to. scare the living crap out of it, you know? And to carry that your whole life and not be able to talk to anybody about it or find

anybody that can relate to it. And that's when I started listening to this podcast. And I'm like, I feel like, even though I've never met one person except for you that's associated with a guest or anything, I feel like they're almost like a family. because anytime I'm feeling, you know, like I'm carrying this thing that nobody will understand, I can listen to the podcast and know that there's other people out there that can relate, even if it's the smallest thing. If they saw a UFO, yeah, they saw something that most people didn't see.

And, you know, it's a common bond. It's a brotherhood. And it, you know, like I said before, I just want to thank you for having me on just because, it gives me a chance, even though I probably didn't present it well. I'm not a very presentful person, but just to expel it and get it out of my system and feel free to let people know just my experiences, even though they're not that exciting. But it does me a lot of, a lot of good. And I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to do that.

It's going to be exponentially, it's going to be great for me. me. Well, I agree. And, you know, I find it interesting you describe you, along with the people who have been on the show. It's like a brotherhood. And I've never thought of it that way. And it's really cool to hear you say that because it is. It is. It is like that. And not even just the people who have been on the show, but also the people who have listened to the show that have gone through similar experiences that just haven't gotten to reaching out to me yet or they're nervous about it. It is a brotherhood, you know? And it's really cool to hear you say that. And as far as, as far as you sharing, I think you did great, man.

And that's the thing about this show. I mean, the show is everyday people, you know, coming forward to share their experiences. You're not an actor. Trust me, I don't got those deep pockets to pay people to pay people to come on my show to make up stories and act it out and stuff. It's just, you know, I started the show in 2017. I had a list of people that I wanted to talk to that I knew of. And I was able to put out some shows from back to, you know,

week to week to week. I think I had a list that would have lasted me maybe two, three months. And after doing the show, people started listening. They started contacting me. And that's how the ball got rolling. And here we are almost five years later. And I'll tell you, we're, well, I guess I'll tell the whole audience. We're recording this in September of 2021. And between this month and the end of the year, I got like 150 interviews I have to do. It's just there's tons of people who contact us to talk about their experiences. And it's just like, it's mind-blowing to me to see how far the show has come along and what good it's doing for people. I mean, you shared it on the show and you've told me before we started recording that the show has done some really good things for you.

And I love that about it. I really do. And I'm just, I'm stunned that Tony Merkel was able to, to build something like this because, I mean, I suck, man. I'm not good at building things. I love building things. I'm an entrepreneur, but I've never been able to build anything successfully until this. And I'm just very grateful.

And I'm glad you came on, man. I really am. Because, I mean, when you contacted me, it was about something completely different. I forget what it was. But you emailed and you said, P.S. at the bottom of it. And, actually, let me look at your email. here real quick. It says, let's see here. You were, oh, you were talking about the, some kind of selection process. I forget, but it was just, it was something completely different.

And then at the end of it, you said, P.S., I do have an alien visitation testimony that lasted from ages six to 14, if you're interested. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm interested, you know? So it's just really cool how things come together. And you're not the only one that's done that. There's been several times where people will, you know, we send out a monthly newsletter. And people sometimes will email the newsletter. So they get the newsletter and they reply to that. And we get that.

And they'll comment something about the newsletter like, you know, hey, I saw you on whatever show and it was really cool, whatever, whatever. And then they'll say, and by the way, I've been having Bigfoot activity on my property for last 10 years. If you'd like to hear about it, just let me know. I'm just like, what do you think? I'm doing. Like, what am I doing here? You know, like, of course, I want to hear about that.

You know? So I went my grocery shopping yesterday and, you know, I washed my hair, took up by the way, Bigfoot was in the backyard. And I ended up, you know, seeing him mowing the yard. Yeah. And so it's just really cool to hear from people. And I like the fact that we have a show where it's just everyday people coming forward because I think the listening audience, and I can only assume this. You guys are listeners, so you would have to tell me. But I think the listening audience has a better chance to relate to people who are just

everyday people coming forward to share their stories versus, you know, oh, Keanu Reeves came on the confessionals to tell his story. And last week it was Katie Perry and, you know, just, you know, people who are already untouchable, you know, this show brings everybody to this level. It's just like, we're just normal people talking, you know, and sharing our stories. and I love it about it. And I'm glad you really, I'm really glad you contacted me to be on the show.

I was very nervous before we started. I'm a very, I'm very protective of my emotions and my, my feelings. And you're one of those people that can draw it out. And I think that's where a lot of your, you're very easy to talk to. And I think that's where a lot of your success comes from.

You're not, you're not intimidating. You're not structured. You're not regiment. It's just a very easy, flowing conversation. And, um,

you cover. a variety of topics and like you talked before um you had the episode about the suicide and the suicide awareness and that was like i said before you know it it was eye-opening for me that was the thing that you know had nothing to do with paranormal had nothing to do with cryptic had nothing to do with et but it was something that spoke to me at my own personal level that um change you know helped changed my life. And for, you know, for that forever, I'll be grateful. But, um, so you're just not touching the people in the, the cryptid community. You're not touching people in the ET community. You're going above and beyond and making, you know, mental health or, you know, other issues.

You're making people aware of that. And I think that's, it's admirable. It's very, um, it's good. People need that, especially nowadays. It's easy to turn on the TV and say, oh, you got a problem know it is, take a pill for it, but to be able to call somebody like you and have a therapeutic session that, you know, you can, you can, you don't feel judged, you don't, you can just open up 100% and be completely vulnerable and not be judged. It's, it's very rare, very rare, that somebody wouldn't take like something I'm telling you and exploit it, but just take it and share it with other people. It's very commendable. And that's part of the reason I reached out. for you. I appreciate it, man. Yeah, I, that was a decision process early in the show, too. I decided

that for the most part, I was not going to edit a guest. If they said it, it goes on the show, unless they message me afterwards and say, hey, can you take that part out? I feel uncomfortable or shouldn't have said that person's name. But I don't, I don't edit what you say, because I personally believe that everything that you have to say has the possibility to change somebody's life. And if I take that out because to make the show shorter or, you know, whatever, to make it more snappy, it could ruin the opportunity to help somebody else out. And so I only ever changed, I've never talked this much about my behind-the-scenes stuff before. No, but I've only ever changed one guest. And it wasn't that I changed anything. It's that when I talked to him,

he was extremely excited and he and I recorded for about two and a half hours and there was several times that he actually said the same story two, three times that he forgot he even told me the story. And so I went through and I took out the repeated stories and I actually shortened from like two, two and a half hours down to like an hour and 40 minutes or something like that. But I figured, you know, the audience may not want to hear the same story. two, three times. But, you know, and you wouldn't have known if I, if I didn't say it, nobody would have known that I even did that. But other than that, everybody just goes as is. For the most part, every episode is educational. I learned something new. There's only been one

time that you creeped me out. And that's when you had a recording where you went back and listened to it and there was a voice that you didn't, that, I'm not going to lie. I shut it off. And I'm like, can't do this right now. Was that the one where we actually got disconnected and when we reconnect it. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. That just for whatever reason, that didn't start well with me. It's like, I have to be in the mood to listen to this. I can't do it right now. Yeah, that, that one would, it blew my mind. I mean, uh, it's funny because people, so sometimes I'll get a cancellation email for memberships. And the reason is I can't sleep at night or I'm having bad dreams. And I'm like, I should start taking screenshots. So this will be

a blot their name out and stuff and their information, but just use it as promotional. Like, I mean, I guess I'm doing my job. I have, I think I've grown so accustomed to hearing people's stories that I really don't get creeped out a whole lot. And a lot of times I put out shows that people like will comment saying that was terrifying. And I put it out fearing that people would be, you know, feel like it's, it was, it wasn't a good show or something. And that's why I just, I've reserved myself to the idea that I really don't know what the audience likes. So I just put out what I like and hopefully they like it too, you know, because it's just one of those things where everybody has their own cup of tea.

Like, you know, there's people who are only like Bigfoot stuff, only like paranormal stuff, UFO stuff. And, you know, so if you're talking about Bigfoot and they're listening, but they're not really into it and stuff, they may not like it, you know, but maybe next week they'll like next week, you know? So it is what it is. But, yeah, man, listen, I appreciate you talking. And before I get carried away and we just wind up having a conversation that probably should

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