The Confessionals - RELOADED | 480: The Hidden Origins Of Skinwalker Ranch | Clyde Lewis

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

On Episode 480: The Hidden Origins of Skinwalker Ranch, we are joined by a major broadcasting influence of mine, Clyde Lewis. Years ago, I was introduced to Clyde's show Ground Zero and it changed my life and how I broadcast forever. The first time I tuned into his show it was like a light switch being flicked in my brain - I had finally found a show and broadcaster that would challenge my way of thinking, and at the same time show me a new way to view the world around me. Clyde Lewis may not have known he was showing me the way, but we all owe him a huge debt of gratitude for what The Confessionals is today because he was instrumental in molding my mind over the last several years!Recently on Ground Zero, Clyde predicted Queen Elizabeth's death a week before it happened. We start out talking about how he reads the dystopian tea leaves to predict such things, which have become a regular occurrence for his show. We then discuss Clyde's own bigfoot encounter which was seen by many people in the moment. The conversation steers in an unexpected direction when we talk about Skinwalker Ranch, and Clyde and I find out we have a lot in common as we compare notes on our personal experiences with the mysterious location of the Uinta Basin. CLYDE LEWISGround Zero: groundzero.radioAftermath: aftermath.mediaListen Live: talkstreamlive.comSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Merckle. I guess it's time to go back in time. Are you telling me that you built a time machine? How to get the Lorien? Time is but a stubborn illusion. I have a lot of memories of the past. People are time traveling within themselves. Time travel is possible.

This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. Beach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. The giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing up this giant. Well, the giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. It spears, Dan, holds him up like this.

Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitate him. Something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two small. And they're literally... ...bushed and because I know I'm seeing a monster. Okay, I reloaded. Welcome to the show, everybody.

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And if you want to hear more shows on a weekly basis on Thursdays, we release bonus episodes to members only on the website and the Castos app. If that interests you with the ad-free listening of a Tuesday show and the overtime segments, you're going to want to check out the confessionalspodcast.com slash join or conveniently just hit the join button in the top right-hand corner and it'll let you sign up to become that member. Now, we got a great show coming up here today. We have the legendary Clyde Lewis from Ground Zero on today's program. Clyde is one of those people in this world, one of the very few people in this world, one of the very few people

in this world that has truly shaped my mind and helped me learn how to think about things in a very different way. I owe a lot to Clyde Lewis and quite frankly, the audience does as well because if you tune in on a weekly basis, there's a reason for that. And it's because Clyde Lewis was one of those people that really helped mold my mind and help me become who I am today. So for me, this is a very big deal. For any of you who do not know who Clyde Lewis is, I highly encourage you guys to check it out. His radio program is on nightly every week, and he goes in hard on a lot of different topics, from paranormal to conspiratorial to current events to culture. He really is somebody who really thinks outside the box consistently.

And if you start tuning in to Clyde Lewis on a regular basis, you too will start thinking outside the box. You too will start seeing the world very, very differently. So with that said, I want to get to Clyde Lewis in this fantastic interview we talked about a lot of different things, and we went down to rabbit trail towards the end with Skimwalker Ranch that I didn't expect and neither did he. And I'm really glad we did. Before we get to this interview, though, I want to play you guys a soundbite. It's about a five-minute soundbite of a caller that called into Clyde's show years ago. I was driving my tractor trailer one day down the highway, listening to Clyde Lewis,

and all of a sudden a caller calls in mentioning this show. I almost drove off the road. So I'm going to play you that clip of the caller calling in, bringing up our show. And I believe it was episode 91 with Tony Rodriguez. And then we're going to get to the interview with Clyde Lewis from Ground Zero. 673-3700. That's Triple-8, 673-3-3-3700. Let's go to Rich in West Virginia. You're on Ground Zero. Hey, Clyde. How you doing, man? I love your show, man. Thank you. Thank you. Keep me up at night during the truck driving hours, you know? You bet. Thank you. I stumbled across this podcast on Stitcher the other day, the confessionals.

And there was a episode, episode 91, the alien abducted time traveler. And this gentleman, Tony Rodriguez, he claims to be abducted as a boy, 10-year-old boy. and it kind of related to Captain Kay's experience. And the other experience that we've heard, they were very similar. I just wanted to let you know, maybe you check it out. There are other stories too. There's Corey Good and there's Andrew Bissaggio. They were also allegedly part of some Mars plan or some time jump plan where they were taking to Mars

and they were there working on projects there. Yes, and this kid, supposedly he did a 20-year... service. It was a 20-year service. Supposedly, though, in real time, it only happened in one night. You have to listen to it. You have to check it out. But he also said that he worked with Marines on Mars. That's where he ended up at towards the end of his service. I think he did like eight years or something on there. Yeah. I've heard of military installments on Mars mining colonies on Mars that just told you about the bill that was pastoring the Obama administration about Martian colony mining rights and things of that.

I mean, it doesn't make any sense to actually pass a bill into law 30 years before it's supposed to be effective. And so that means... It makes sense if you have a time machine. Well, sure. I mean, if you have a time machine, it makes all the sense of the world if you have a time machine, for sure. Yes, yes, it does.

And it just adds to our discussion about quantum entanglements and what that entails. So yes, I mean, I don't. don't know anymore. I read this stuff that I say to myself, you know, the most outrageous things could be happening right now and we wouldn't even know it because they have done such a great job of making it sound so outrageous and crazy. But it's not really all that crazy when you consider all of the focus we've had on Mars and in what's being said, God, forever. I mean, I can go back thousands of years. I can go back hundreds of years. I can go back just 60 years. I mean, it's like the buildup is there. Something I'm sure.

about to give about Mars. I mean, we've gone there before, we'll go there again, and it'll always be there, always. Yeah, and all these experiences that people have, they all coexist, kind of. I mean, they all have the same kind of, it's almost like the same kind of plot line, or I don't know. I think it's not only quantum entanglement,

but it's also cognitive entanglement, because culturally, what's that? What are you saying? one of the things that he said that when he got abducted he was messing around with some Illuminati's kid I guess the father came to school something like that and the boy was saying I can read

minds I can read minds this and that and anyways he made fun of him in his head and the kid hurt him or whatever he read his mind and pissed him off well I guess he got abducted by aliens well they asked him can we hijack your consciousness for 20 years

years. Wow. And he agreed to it. And it's a fascinating thing. It's an hour and or it's a 136 minutes long. It's on Stitcher. Right. I can send you, I tried to send you the land. Yeah, Ground Zero PDX at Yahoo. It's funny you bring that up because there's been a lot of talk. And I, and I, uh, when I was in a D.B. Cooper gathering just the other day, they were talking about what is known as, uh, the, uh, the hijacking or at least the weaponizing of consciousness. And I, I have a feeling that with all of this, discovery and what we're investigating now, we can say this, whatever your conscious mind has not picked up on, your unconscious mind has. And so even if our conscious selves don't understand this, unconsciously somehow it speaks to us. And this is why the quantum entanglement is so important to point out, because unconsciously, I think we believe deeply that we come from somewhere else we're not necessarily of this planet and perhaps we're from the planet Mars and that has been the signal or at least the message that has been sent to us for eons so i mean it's like you said it's like it's like it's seated in our memory yeah somehow deep seated our memory and

culturally we're conditioned to assume that this is where we are and this where we've been and uh and i don't know it's it's just like i say the rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper and deeper as to our origins and they may have come from mars the signal that's the signal that's the signal The signal is from the past, and we must go to it and answer the call to figure out just what is going on beneath the terrain of Mars. 3,700. That's AAA 673-37-0. All right. Today we got the Clyde Lewis on the show.

Clyde, how you doing, man? Hey, we're doing all right. How are you? Doing good, man. So before we get into everything today, I just kind of, I got to talk. to you a little bit here on more of a, I guess, personal note for me. All right. So, because I've been podcasting for five years.

You've been in the broadcasting industry. I think for, you know, what, you're coming up on 20 or 30, almost 30 years. I know it's more than 25, right? Right. It's, well, round zero, I think was 27 years. I started radio when I was 14. So, yeah, I'm pushing it well beyond 30 right now. So, yeah.

Yeah. So you're, you're the OG in the industry. And, you know, like, podcast. is like a new medium. And I get a lot of people coming to me asking me for advice as far as like how to go about building shows and stuff. And one of the things I always tell people is that when they go on somebody else's show, they got to bring their A game. They got to, they got to, you know, they just can't think they're going to show up on somebody else's show and their audience is just going to automatically want to listen to their show. And that idea of bringing

the A game, I haven't felt like that for my show before until today. Like literally, today, I feel like having you on my show, I'm going on somebody else's show. I'm like, okay, I got to bring my A game. Like, this is my show. So, okay, so I guess your A game and my B plus game, I guess, can make an A out of that average. There you go. Yeah, I mean, it is a Saturday, by the way. Should I say that? I don't know. It is a day where I'm, you know, like I said, I'm dealing with smoky skies and bloodshot eyes today. So a new thing for me. Yeah, well, I appreciate it. And I just, I'm sitting over here thinking, man, the pressure's on me and this is my show. Holy cow.

So, but I just want to kind of give you some props here real quick because when, so I was driving truck. I was a truck driver. I was a son of, I'm a son of a truck driver. And I started podcasting back in 2017. And early on in my podcasting, I had, I think it was my dad or either my dad or a friend of mine had told me to start listening to your show. And at the time, it was on, it was on Apple.

and I was listening to it every day. And listening to your show every day, and I've told my audiences, you really, in an indirect way, like, you don't know me, but in an indirect way, you kind of taught me how to think different. And just hearing your perspectives on world events

to the paranormal and everything in between has really, over the years, kind of shaped my mind on how to kind of view things outside the box and kind of try to remain outside the box with the way I think. And it kind of, a lot of it comes from, man. I just wanted to tell you because the audience has heard me talk about you over the years and stuff. When I'm listening to your show, something comes on like, I was listening to Clyde today.

And I just got to tell you in front of everybody, thank you very much for what you do, because I really believe that if it wasn't for your show, I don't think my show would be what it is today. So I just wanted to give you thank you very much out front. And, you know, just say thank you very much. It's always good to hear that because I was just saying I had to get together with my audience over the aftermath chat. And I was discussing the worry I have about how I want more young people to be telling these stories. And I want them to be telling them clearly and definitely thinking outside the box. Because all too easily we see a number of people in what we call the community that, They're lazy.

I get a lot of people that, you know, I approach them and I say, have you heard about this? No, I haven't heard about that. It's something new for me. And it's all because, you know, they put themselves in a place of authority for so long that they really don't take the time to look beyond what they've talked about. To look beyond, I mean, everything that is happening right now moves. And you just can't sit on your laurels and expect to be relevant when, you know,

it's still talking about what the cover up. with the government UFOs when the government is actually saying now that there are UFOs or they're saying now that there are different nomenclatures for these things. They are seriously looking into these things. And you can always tell the people

that they get a tidbit of information and they run with it because it becomes their hobby. And it's always been hard for me because I've been at this, like you said, I've been at this for a while. And, you know, cutting my teeth on grades like Long John Nebel and Art Bell and a few others that have been, you know, influences and if not competition at some point,

you know, just working with them and seeing how they operate and how they think, I wanted to be different. I wanted to have a different view on things. And that's why sometimes people say, well, you know, he says this, but, you know, someone else says something else. And I like that. I like the fact that I say things differently because in the end, you're hearing about a lot of talk show host. that talk in the same, I guess you can say the same realms I do. And they're getting bombarded with being told they're lying to the public and being told that they're spinning all kinds of conspiracy theories without merit. I tell people, you know, because people worry about me.

And I say, look, I have nothing to worry about because usually when I talk about things, I'm talking about things that are unheard of that haven't been discovered yet. And I discover these things when they're true and they're interesting. people say, well, I haven't heard it on the mainstream. Well, you're not going to. You're not going to hear it on the mainstream. And the reason why you're not going to hear it on the mainstream is because they don't see it as anything that people have a right to know.

I was taught in journalism school. If the people have a right to know, you tell them. And you have to be very careful after that, too, because you don't know what the reaction's going to be. And many times I talk about things on my show, not even thinking about the reaction. And so when I hear about you, you know, and about how you've reacted and how you've made a podcast, you've become really constructive with what you've done.

It makes me feel good because then it makes me realize that, you know, if I do decide I'm just going to leap from this planet and go away, there are plenty of other people. They're going to be spreading the stories and have been inspired over time. That's awesome. Well, don't you dare do that. I swear, don't you dare do that. I look forward to listen to your shows and stuff,

especially like when I get outside doing the yard work and stuff, it's like hours of work to do. And I just turn on the aftermath app and just kind of go to town for hours all day. And so I love it. And we love you over here, man. Speaking of what you do and kind of the almost predictive, the predictable nature of what you do, all right? And I don't know, because I don't listen, I don't watch mainstream media a whole lot. And I just, I kind of, I just listen to people like you. And so I think it was last week. And I just, what you just said kind of hit my head here a little bit. I think it was last week you were talking about when the queen dies and Charles taken over and how he's going to change his name and, you know, the defender of faith instead of a defender of the faith. I wanted to ask you, was there something

going on that we kind of knew the queen was going to die soon? Or was that just straight up prediction that came true a week later? That was prediction. came true a week later. Ah, like, that's correct. Here's the thing, I got to tell you, I always have considered myself an accidental profit, but I don't call myself that because, you know, the minute you start calling

yourself a profit, you sound like a cult leader. But no, a lot of the times, and that's why I always say timing is everything, because a lot of the times when we do things and we do shows and then something happens, I go, timing is everything. And it's just something I've said for the longest time, because

is if you time it right and you figure out, you feel the time is right, you start getting the hang of when things are going to happen. It was advantageous, though, at the time to say, we're going to talk about how the kingdom is. Because I remember I was telling Ron, because I said, you know, year zero, 2022, I always call it year zero.

I go the year of the Antichrist. And I've always, you know, Rolling Stone back a long time ago, I think it was in September of 2011, cornered me and asked me what I thought about, you know, because I had made mention on a TV show or something that I felt that Prince William was the Antichrist. And they tried to get me to say it. And actually, I had them believing it for a while, believe it or not. And so they didn't give me a very bad rating.

They put me up against David Ike. And they said, you know, Clyde's believable. David Ike and Reptilians are not. I thought, well, that's kind of nice. But I had been talking about this for a long time. Tracy Twyman, who I worked with also. We wrote a little bit of a book about it that in 2012, we would see more and more indications that William would be the antigrifice. And then I talked with Tim Cohen, who wrote the Antichrist in a cup of tea.

And he was telling me that he thought it was Prince Charles. We've argued about it. Chris Everard, also a British comment, does a lot of great stuff on the Enigma Channel. He agrees with me that it's William as well. A lot of people have come after me and said, how can you say this? It needs to be a Muslim or a Jew or something. And I said, I don't let politics get in the way of this. When you're a royal and you say, my bloodline goes all the way back to Jesus Christ,

so therefore I'm divine and people bow down and worship me as if I were God. That says a lot about just what they are. When you believe that Jesus Christ walked off the cross, sired children with Mary Magdalene and those children became our royal kings and queens now, when they start saying that stuff, you say, well, what's the point of the atonement if he didn't die for our sins? And that makes it antichrist. So there's a lot of different ways that I play this. But I said to Ron all through the year, in fact, I was kind of doing a few things to kind of hint at it because I was talking about a lot of apocalyptic stuff this year.

And I said to him, I said, we need to do an anti-crise show. And I said, but I got to wait, probably do it around the time of Princess Diana's death. and so it turned out to be instead of talking about Princess Diana and going over the minutia with regard to how she died and what happened, it turned into a show where I was talking about the queen dying and Prince Charles, you know, taking the throne

and how he could change his name to Prince George or Prince, or King George or King Arthur. And he still can. I mean, they officially have called him, you know, King George III. But he's also said that he can take, it's called a regnal name. or a regnal name is a name that they use as king. So he can call himself King Arthur or King George if he wishes to after the coronation.

It just depends on what they call him the coronation. I would hope that he changes his name because King George is not a very good name to have because King George I was beheaded. King George the second was a guy who cheated a lot on his wives, sired a lot of children with his mistress. He was the king during a major plague. And there are a number of other things that he, did that weren't that savory. So to have a King George the Third and a namesake that is dealing with a very, very bad king, I wouldn't want that name. He has said for the longest time that he

wants to call himself King Arthur, and that would be definitely a signal of being the once-in-future king or the resuscitator Orbis, which be the resurrected king of the world, which is, in fact, they were saying that him being king is called Project Orb. So it just, it all comes to together with what I know about esoteric history. I look in history as an oracle. I look at human behavior as an oracle. So that's why I get, I'm pretty accurate. I would say maybe 60, 70% of the time,

we had a show, maybe you remember it, where we had a Ouija board session with a character named Dr. Heldor, who basically said, watch your peas and cues this year. And he was referring to the popes, the presidents, and the queen. And he was actually talking about, and another, that's a paranormal thing on the air. A lot of people have talked about this that now the queen has died. All they talk about is Dr. Heldor.

Dr. Heldor said this and who's next, the president, the pope. I would say the pope is next on the list. And then eventually President Biden is going to be the next. This is how it's going to happen. I don't know if it's going to happen within the year. It very well could, but that's what Dr. Heldor said. He said within the year. And he did his predictions on November 1st, which was day.

of the dead. So we're coming up on that year. And so we have to see the remainder of his predictions come true between now and October 31st. Wow. Yes. Well, it's funny because I just heard recently, I forget where, but I guess the Pope had been considering stepping down or something like that. And well, we know about Biden as far as like the health concerns go. It just, it seems like that is something that does, it seems to be coming true here. Right. Yeah, I'll tell you, I remember driving around in the truck, listening to you, and thinking, I don't know how that is going to come together, but it seems like it's very plausible.

And now I'm looking back years later, I'm thinking, well, it was right. See, that's the scary part. That's a scary part about the show. It's something that's been in my life forever. And I think it enhanced after I had cancer was I just have this intuition. if you will. And I look at it in a historic way. Something prompts me, and I don't know what it is or who it is, but it prompts me and I fall upon something and I study about it. And something inside me says, I should cover this because it's going to be important for the listeners later on.

I choose my sponsors that way, too. Like, for example, right now I'm working with Alan Johnson, a United Gold Group. And the reason why was because, you know, I was thinking I wanted to help my listeners invest in gold and silver and invest in all this. And I don't normally talk about investing IRAs and stuff. I don't care. I don't think it matters. But the listeners, I think, need to hear that when you have somebody like Jerome Powell, who is an economist saying, there will be real pain. And when they order 80,000 IRS agents to be armed and ready to go for the next year, you have to understand that there's a reason for this. You may not know the reason now, but everything that I say is, and I say this to people, I'm a weatherman.

I predict the weather. I wanted to be a weatherman when I was a kid, but I just didn't go through it. I became a talk show host instead. And so I'm still a weather man. I still predict the weather. And that's what I call myself. I call myself a weatherman who predicts the weather. I see the storm clouds.

They come. I see the lightning and the thunder. And then when the storm hits, then people say, oh, direct hit. Sometimes storms don't hit or sometimes they take a while before they hit. I don't know what the statute of limitations is on prophecy, but a lot of the time, most of the stuff that I talk about, whether it be a year. Because I remember I was talking about clade X two years prior to COVID. And what I said was they're basically taking a clade, which is an unknown virus, and they're mixing it with another virus, only to release it and gain of function exercise. I did a seminar or actually I did a speaking engagement in California.

I had microbiologists there and a few other people. And it was at an alien conference. And I was basically saying some sort of an alien virus is going to be released to the people. And we're going to end up having a pandemic. And these micro scientists, these microorganists were saying, we believe you about the pandemic. We just don't believe it's going to be an alien virus. And I said, well, something's going to happen.

And then when COVID-19 happened, I could say, well, you know, I kind of talked about Claydex. I kind of hinted at the idea that this was all the thing. going to go down. And when it did go down, it scared me. I was terrified. I couldn't believe that, you know, I was doing seminars about this stuff two years before it happened. And it's because I just, like I say, I get these inclinations. Something tells me that this would be the topic for the future and I ride with it. That's incredible. So on that note, and I've kind of dealt with this on a much smaller level, of course, but you come out and you

say things that in the moment seem off the wall. In the moment, it's like, what does he talk? Like literally, how is that possible? And you go into that day of recording in the studio and you're like, what I'm about to say, I know is going to get Ron, I done a ton of emails. I know it's going to get the crazy stuff in the comment section on the Facebook group or all that kind of stuff. Like, how do you rationalize things in your mind going into getting ready to drop a bomb like that? because for me with what I've dealt with and stuff, I pretty much divorce myself from the comments section.

I don't read comment sections. I don't, like my wife is the first one to receive my emails to get all the bad ones out. Because it messes with my head. I don't know how you do it. Basically, okay, I look at things and I have to make a judgment call on, if I have a prediction that I'm going to make a judgment call and say, how am I going to make this prediction happen?

or how am I going to announce it and not either look like a fool or scare people to death? And I take into consideration what it might mean in the overall picture and either A, I spread it out in different shows or I just drop the bomb. And a lot of people say to me, they say, well, when I listen to your shows on Aftermath, they all seem to come together. Now, why is that? It's because I have a message. that I want to tell people. And if I feel that the message is too hard to handle all at once, I spread it out over like three or four shows. And so you hear the buildup.

If you listen to my shows in sequence, you start hearing the buildup, and then you find that the event happens, and then I have to do the, quote, aftermath of that event. So it's like right now, one of the biggest, pardon the phrase,

bombshells is I've been talking about a retro causal event that is happening that we're preparing for. I believe it's going to be what's known as a limited nuclear exchange in Europe. I get the feeling that this is going to happen. The only problem is I've got to find a way to spread it out. And I have spread it out successfully talking about, you know, nuclear power plants and nuclear this and nuclear this. And eventually people are going to go back and they say, didn't Clyde talk about this on a show earlier? Yes, I did.

Why? Because something told me that it was going to be this happening and I have to spread it out so people don't look at it as being some hyperbolic alarmist thing. And so it's a matter of spreading it out sometimes. Or it's a matter of, I'm sorry, I have to tell you this, but bam, drop the bomb there and take the heat for it. And I do take the heat for it a lot. I get yelled at or I get death threats or I get whatever. And you're right. But see, I've learned over time, that you can spread it out until the event happens and people can look back and they can see that that information was building to that major point. Yeah. You know, I don't know. If I were you, sometimes I'd be thinking, do I really even want to go down this road? Do I just want to let them figure it out themselves? You're right.

No, seriously, I was at that point before Roe v. Wade was turned over because I got this feeling. And one of the things I don't talk about on my show is abortion. And the reason why is because it's a circular argument. Every time you talk about abortion, it's a circular argument. I have this law. Don't talk about abortion. Well, guess what I did. I broke my cardinal law.

And all my friends are saying, why are you doing this? I said, because it has to be done. So I started talking about abortion. And wouldn't you know what, Roe v. Wade gets overturned. And so, you know, you have to weigh, I guess, the consequences of what you're about to tell people. And if it's going to be a harsh blow, it's going to be considered crazy. And you can see how crazy you sound when you talk about it. You have to spread it over a number of shows.

And you have to bury it in, you bury the lead. That's how I say is you have to bury the lead. And I don't think anybody's going to fault you for burying the lead if they can go back and they can hear that you're inching your way into that. And if you've been listening to my shows for any long period of time, you know that's the truth. you can say, yeah, Clyde's been hinting at this now. That explains why he's been talking about these crazy things, hinting about them for a while because this is where it's headed. Yep. It is where it's headed.

And on that, I'm about to, I think, transition here. But on that note, I encourage people to be plugging into your stuff because there's, like, if I were you, I would be, I would hate the comparisons to Alex Jones, because I've heard it on your show sometimes when callers call in and stuff. and I've heard you on Alex's show and stuff when he has you on a guest and I think you've had him on your show but what you guys do

it's just it's complete like it's like oil and vinegar you guys are totally different and he acknowledges that and I acknowledge that with him but the problem is is sometimes the listeners don't and it really and it's not that I don't like being compared to Alex Jones it's just that I wish people could tell the difference

that's the problem I have is that if you can't tell the difference you're really not listening to the shows because Alex is political he's an activist. I'm not. I'm not political nor I'm an activist. I do though talk about things that I call parapolitical meaning that it's parapolitical in a standpoint that there's a supernatural element to what's going on in politics and it's also a ponoristic type of attitude with politics. That means the evil and the supernatural aspects of politics and how, you know, things tend to look or seem like they are. And I have to describe them to people.

Like when Biden did his speech in Philadelphia, and he's standing there looking like Hitler with a red background behind him, look like something out of a Marilyn Manson concert. I'm looking at that. I'm saying to myself, you know, people need to see that. They need to know that that was going on. And, of course, people who are like partial to Biden and I go, oh, come on, come on. I'm going, guys, look, if you can't see it for whatever. it is, then obviously you are so much in your echo chamber that you can't deal with it. I made the same comment when Trump was one of his conferences kissing the American flag. And I'm going, God, how gratuitous is

that? It was comical. It was so gratuitous. So, I mean, stuff like that, you know, bothers me, irritates me. We had our governor today tell us that we needed to fly the flags at half staff because of the queen dying. And I'm like, going, are you kidding me? Why should we lower our flags for someone who we're not supposed to pay any honorariums to any other kingdom or presidency? And yet we're being told we have to do this. This is something that has always been, we're sovereign. We no longer participate in the monarchy. But apparently people love their monarchies.

They love their camelots. They love their Kennedys and Obamas. That's the thing that they fall in love with a substance thinking that they're going to be a part of it when in reality they're completely shut down and told to stay out of it. Oh, yeah. Listen, the whole reason why we're here on this side of the pond is because we rejected them. So I'm not too, you know, ready to put our flags down at half mass here. Okay, so I told you before we started recording that I wanted to talk to you about some of your paranormal experiences. I've heard you talk about them throughout the years on the show.

And I think, you know, when you're bringing up the parapolitical kind of thing, I think that's a nice little bit of a segue. I mean, like, I go down that road a lot myself. And actually, I don't know if you invented that term, but I've used it over the years and it makes sense for me. When I go down the road of, you know, things that are happening in the world today with the paranormal angle to it, I was like, it's parapolitical. It's okay.

But you just recently did a show, I think it was last week, about you were doing the Fallen Angel recordings, that set my mind off like nobody's business. I actually did a short, like six and a half minute video that turned into audio for the podcast. Over 30,000 people have heard it. I'm telling everybody right now, if you listen to that,

because we've got great responses from that, if you heard it, it's because I heard it from Clyde. So all credit goes to Clyde on that one. But with your paranormal experiences, I don't know if you've ever had Fallen Angel experiences. If you do, please tell. But I know when I was driving years ago, you mentioned about the Bigfoot sighting.

And I guess we'll start with the Bigfoot sighting. It's something that I remember hearing you talk about. And I'm thinking, gosh, I wish I could hear him talk to him about this. And so if you could, just let us tell the audience what you experienced and what you saw and stuff. Because I know in the moment, you didn't really realize what you were seeing until it kind of set in. My big foot siding is the most disappointing story of my life, pretty much. The reason why I say that is because, you know, I was at E. SETI, which is this ranch out in southern Washington. It's run by James Gilliland, who is this guy who, they have this place where you can go.

And it's an outlook place near Mount Hood, not Mount Hood, sorry. Mount Adams and you go out to Mount Adams and you're looking up in the sky and you see these UFOs and then you see these weird things flying around in the fields and it's just a it's a paranormal hot spot. I'm thinking that they want to turn Skinwalker Ranch into a paranormal Disneyland with that a fat chance of doing that. But I'm just saying it's kind of like it's kind of like Skinwalker Ranch without all the scary stuff. And so I was there. It was one of the last times I was there actually. I haven't been there in a long time because COVID. It's been about three years now since I've been.

And so I was there, and there were a lot of weird things who were happening before my Bigfoot sighting, which are interesting. One is that there was a number of people in the camp that believed that they were hearing laughter, really hideous laughter going on and around the camp. Somebody was laughing. They sounded like a demon laughing. Another thing was there was a woman that was screaming in the camp because she saw a huge deer leap over her while she was walking down a pathway at night.

So there were a lot of strange things. And there was a fire, actually, that was burning on the other side of Mount Adams. And so a lot of strange stuff going on at the time. I was sitting in, there's this area, there's the communal area where there's a bunch of communal areas. One is on one side of the camp where you can go in and you can meditate and you can do all kinds of stuff, buy products or whatever.

whatever. And then there's this other room that's called the video room. And there's like rooms in there and there's a kitchen. And I always cook at that kitchen. I love cooking in that kitchen. And we were there. It was a Sunday morning. And we were getting ready. We were going to leave because you know, you get there on the weekend, you stay the whole weekend, you leave on a Sunday. And so I had, I woke up and we were all sitting around, sipping coffee and kind of, you know, being, I'm all bitchy and kind of cranky when I don't have my coffee. And so I was going through that moment. And I'm talking with everybody there.

We're having a good time talking and laughing. And I was, there's this area. Like I said, you're sitting there. There's a video area. There's a kitchen. And there's this narrow kind of a,

I don't even know if you call it a hallway. It's kind of an entryway that leads to washer and dryer where you can wash your clothes if you want to. And so it's kind of a cleaning area. And just outside the, doorway is this orchard. It's an apple orchard. And so I'm talking and I'm drinking my coffee. And, you know, when you're talking to people, you know, things, for me anyway, I see things out of the corner of my eye or I see things like, you know, that I don't really pay attention to them because

you just don't. You don't pay attention. You just realize, okay, you know, there's a guy standing outside the door eating apples. Okay. This guy. that I see out of the corner of my eye that I really don't care about because he's just standing there eating apples is this muscular dude that has hair that looks like it belongs to Robert Plant. Okay. So it's like this very muscular Robert Plant dude, brown, blondeish skin or whatever and hair standing there eating apples. And I thought, well, he's standing there. He's probably overhearing our conversation. so I'm going to look over and invite him to come in. So I look over to maybe motion him to come in and visit with us.

And the minute I look over, I look and suddenly what was in the corner of my eye formed in front of my eyes is not the guy I thought was eating apples. It was this muscular, hairy, long-haired creature that when it looked at me, it had a face on it, it looked as if it was hit by a shovel, you know, that it flattened out. It's like the face you make when you put your face against a window or put a nylon stocking over your head. It's that same looking face. I realized then that it was Bigfoot. I realized that it was Bigfoot and I didn't say anything. I was too caught up in the moment staring at this thing. And then I said, just like this, I said,

Bigfoot. And then I said, Bigfoot. And everybody was good, what's up, Clyde? I said, Bigfoot. And I pointed,

and then I said, Bigfoot, loud enough. Everybody saw him and ran after him. But the thing is, this thing went so fast. It was like leaping with a big stride. And I said,

I said that when I saw it, I thought, you know, because I wasn't paying attention to it. And I said, well, it looked like it was about six, seven feet tall,

maybe like a basketball player, well built with long hair. and whatever. And so they went with that story. They went with a story that, you know, it was a young Bigfoot, obviously. They gave it a name and all this other stuff. And I'm like thinking, no, it's it's not that big of a deal. It was something that I saw. And it was disappointing because, first of all, I had no pictures of it. Second of all, I saw it and there's nothing I could do about it. It was like, it happened so fast. And that's why I've learned about this type of stuff when you're dealing with the paranormal. You're always hearing people saying,

why is there always a blurry picture of Bigfoot? Well, it's because you're so nervous and you're not really thinking to yourself, I'm going to grab my camera and take a picture of a Bigfoot. Same with UFO pictures. People say, why are UFO pictures always blurry? And I say, okay, let's do this experiment. You take out your cell phone. I'll want up a piece of paper and I'll throw it and I'll say, take a picture of that.

You can't. So if you get a Bigfoot or a UFO on a cell phone, you're damn lucky because it's hard to get these things because they're always moving or whatever. And that's what happened with my Bigfoot story. The minute I saw Bigfoot, and I know I saw Bigfoot, I knew that if I were to talk about it, people would think I was nuts. And I think they still do. But I saw what I saw.

And it was nothing like the Bigfoot stories of people seeing some hairy, shadowy figure walking across a pasture or a papyr. way. It was just some guy eating apples. And going back, I saw that the orchard, those trees were 10 feet high. Wow. So whatever that was, it was tall enough to pick the apples out of the tree and eat them. See, that's the thing is that perspective was up. I didn't know if the trees were that tall. I thought, well, God, he's okay enough to pull an apple out of the tree. He must be, you know, like six feet tall or so. The trees are that high. they were 10 feet tall trees. And so that guy, whatever it was, whatever he was,

he was like anywhere between seven and eight feet tall. So no, it wasn't a young bigfoot. It was an older big foot, obviously. And so, yeah, that's all you hear, though. Is it Clyde saw a young bigfoot. I can't remember what they named him. It's like Kalaki or something. I don't know what they named him,

Kolokki or Blocki or whatever. And so, but my story, I'm sure that they blown it out of proportion all these years after I've seen it. My story is just simple. I saw a guy eating apples. And I found out that the guy that was eating apples wasn't a guy eating apples. It was a Bigfoot eating apples. And that's how my experience was.

And that's why when I look at it, it's a very disappointing story because it doesn't have all the whistles and bells that people give Bigfoot stories. It was just a simple mistaken identity that I'm too busy paying attention talking to people. That of the corner of my eye, I see this thing standing there. And then when I finally get a good look at it, it's a big foot. So in that moment, so you said that how like you're like Bigfoot, Bigfoot, and then you yell the Bigfoot. I can almost identify with that because when I get excited about something for me, I stutter over my words like crazy. And I'm just like, blah, blah, right there, you know. But if you looking back on that situation, is there anything that you could have done different

or would have done different in that situation or was it just one of those situations? It is what it is. That's what it happened. And it's a cool story to have. I would run. I would have ran and I'll grab my camera if that was the case. I would have done something like that. But see, that's another thing too, is that I think the reason why I sat there and said Bigfoot, Bigfoot. And Bigfoot was because it registered in my mind as Bigfoot at first. Then my mind said, you've got to be out of your freaking mind here.

There's no Bigfoot standing there. Then my mind said again, no, it's Bigfoot. And then when I finally said, screw it, I'm not going to argue in my head over what this is. it's going to get away. And I said Bigfoot, and the minute I realized that it took off. So it's like,

I was trying to convince myself that it wasn't a Bigfoot at the time. I was trying to convince myself that this isn't me seeing a Bigfoot. But then I just decided, I just gave in and said, no, this is something that doesn't make any sense. And so we're going to take after it.

And the only thing we found was that when the creature, whatever it was ran, it leapt as it ran. So there were not full footprints. I mean, there were smaller footprints, but there were the balls of the feet going into the ground because it was running on the balls of its feet, not on its heels. But I guess they found a full footprint there and they have it on display. But yeah, so, I mean, I think that I'm probably

the only big foot siding they had there. Wow. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, like, you mentioned about the whole camera thing and stuff. And it's so true. I mean, you hear people talk about, why didn't you catching on camera. Well, even if you are trying to catch things on camera, it's incredibly hard. I mean, we were just out in Utah earlier this year. We were shooting a film for Skin Walker Ranch. And the day before we even got there, my producer and director were there before us. And they actually caught a UFO on video. But like, the odds of that happening are so slim. It was an accident. They didn't even know it was there. It was an absolute accident. it's just it's so hard to catch that stuff on film

and I kind of envy you and everybody else because I don't think I've ever seen as far as I know I have one thing where it's like maybe but I don't know you know like I don't think it was you know so people who and that's what I find interesting is that people immediately assume that what they're seeing as a UFO that's what they want it to be they wanted to be a flying saucer

so they can go and tell their friends or see if they think that there's money in UFO sightings. There's no money in UFO sightings. They're thinking, oh, I got the best UFO picture. What are you going to pay me? Nothing. I'm going to pay your damn thing because UFO pictures could be anything. And of course, you said you were at Skinwalker Ranch.

So the Uwinnah Basin there is a hotbed for UFOs. I've been to the UNABasin several times in my youth. And yeah, that place was always the hotbed because the Uwintas there, You know in a mountains are a mountain range that go east-west, and that's where they find Bigfoot out there. They've had Bigfoot sightings at Mirror Lake. Skinwalker Ranch, of course, has been an area where, you know, they've seen werewolves or large wolves.

That's what, of course, was the Sherman Ranch, what was called before it was called Skinwalker Ranch, plaguing the Sherman family. Yeah, I mean, I was one of the first. first, along with Zach Van Eck of the Deserate News, we were two of the first reporters to talk about Skinwalker Ranch. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Wow.

Oh, yeah. Because it's in Utah. Ground Zero started in Utah. Skinwalker Ranch happened, well, the first sightings and hauntings happened in the 90s. I mean, when I started Ground Zero, all kinds of stuff was going down that I couldn't believe. It was almost as if the timing for doing Ground Zero was perfect because then all of a sudden we had the Phoenix UFO, we had the Roswell 25th anniversary, Princess Diana died, you know, all these crazy things going on.

And then we started hearing about this family being terrorized at their ranch and the U.N. Basin, eventually calling it Skinwalker Ranch before it was just an anomaly. And there are a lot of stories about that ranch that, of course, now aren't being reported, but if you were to know the truth about some of these things, I'm not at liberty to say what, but I'm just saying that there were some things that went on at that ranch that if they were ever, if they ever saw the light of day, they may cast a bad light on the area there a lot worse than a dog. I mean, I almost got arrested because I was poking around in that area. Well, that is interesting because we stumbled across some things out there ourselves.

that were like, nobody's talking about this. And we feel like, I don't know. Like the fact that you said you almost got arrested, I'm going to tell my producer and director, I'm like, hey, let's just keep this hush, hush until we drop it. Holy cow. Yeah, I mean, it has a lot to do with the Indians there. And that's the thing is that if they were to reveal some of the,

some of that information, you would certainly. because I remember I was doing the investigation and there was a woman at one of the stores there because I was just buying some gum and I was doing just poking around asking questions and the minute I walked out there was the the Ute tribe sheriff waiting for me and he basically told me a lot of stories too

that you know he said that one time they found some guy walking naked on one of those side roads above before you get to the you know the mesa you know is that Mesa looking over Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah. And there was a road that goes above the Mesa and they were saying something that this guy was walking naked and they asked him, what are you doing?

And he said, the last thing I remember, I was getting married. What? And yeah, it's what this guy told me. He says, last thing I remember is I was getting married. And then all of a sudden there was this bright flash and I wound up here. That's unbelievable. Holy crap. And the sheriff told you that story.

Yeah. He said that there have been so many crazy stories about the ranch that will never see the light of day. And, you know, they're focusing on the paranormal. They're focusing on aliens. They're focusing on all this stuff. And that's what they've done to Skinwalker Ranch. There's more to Skinwalker Ranch than aliens. There's war to Skinwalker Ranch than the UNIBA basin aliens stories.

There's a lot more to it than that. And a lot of it has to do with Native American ritual. A lot of it has to do with, curses that have put on the area and they're not going to talk about that. And that's, if I ever get the momentum ever to go back and rediscover that, I'd like to talk about it because it, you know, it'll throw off all of the

information that the Skinwalker Ranch has become part of what I call the UFO Monopoly. And it's where they've taken the story and they've guarded their version of the story because of any other part of the story gets out, it's going to make look really bad. Yes.

And that's something I've kept under my hat. It's one of the reasons why I seldom get anyone on my show to talk about Skinwalker Ranch because I start going

into the history because I know the history because I was there when the history was happening. And Zach Van Eck who was the reporter that I knew that was investigating it.

He knows the story. And so he and I are both, you know, we're both mum on it. He's very skeptical about it. But I just say that the

trying to turn it into a paranormal Disneyland and I just I just shake my head and go okay if they were if they were I mean there's far more interesting stories about Skinwalker Ranch that have nothing to do with aliens and that's what makes me feel bad it's because everything has to have an alien connection or some supernatural connection but the supernatural connection here it's like have you ever seen this new movie on Hulu called prey I heard you talking about it I saw the ads haven't seen it yet it's like that. I mean, if you see, I think that's one of the reasons why I liked it so much

is because it reminded me of some of the stories I've heard about the Ute tribes and how they dealt with the area long before the Shermans were there, long before Comtekeller and the National Institute of Discovery Science was there and how they all turned it into this special on the Discovery Channel.

I just wish that that story was told. in it. And it's hard because you have to really dig into rich histories of the U tribes. And the tribes are not going to give up their information. It's just too sacred to them. I'm telling you, I listen, anybody listening right now, you are preaching truth right now just from what I have seen and stuff, because we went out there to basically, because we can't get on Skinwalker Ranch. Obviously, that's locked down. And, you know, so we actually went to a property that butts up against Skinwalker ranch. And our whole idea was to show the world that it's not just the ranch, but it's the area that has crazy stuff happening.

And we uncovered some crazy stuff in a five-day period in a very low budget that we left we left scratching her heads thinking, how does this TV show not uncover all this stuff? And then what you said about the paranormal Disneyland, that's kind of how we left feeling. Like they're trying to make it a paranormal Disneyland. Yeah. It's a wonder they just don't sell hotel rooms on the ranch and they tell spooky stories. It's coming. to come back. It's turning

into that. But see, that's the thing. And I admire you for getting beyond the ranch and looking at the area beyond the ranch because, and I also am very surprised that the tribal police didn't come after you because they keep a lid on what comes out of that area.

We were Chase, Clyde. So let me tell you this real quick. I haven't even told any, this is first time public information. We were driving back to base camp one night and it was dark out and I'm clueless. Like, I'm talking to the guys, I'm driving. We're in a forerunner, just five guys crammed into a four runner. And we pull onto the property and all of a sudden, Joel, one of my team members in the back says,

Tony, can you stop the car? And I said, yeah, I stopped it. And he got out and he just turned around facing the road, stood there with his hand on his hip. Like, he was like, like, what are you going to do? Kind of thing. I'm like, what is he doing? He gets back and he's like, he said that when we were driving down the road coming up to the property, he saw a vehicle on like a side road, the lights flick on. pulls out behind us and then another vehicle did the same thing and they they followed us up to the property and when I turned in, they just pulled up to the driveway and just sat there idling. And that's when he asked me to stop. And so, listen, I'm 37.

My wife is on the other side of the country. I do stupid things. I was like, get back in the car. We're going to chase after him. And I tried chasing after. I couldn't keep up now. I had five guys in the vehicle, but I'm trying to go. And this thing is just flying away.

So I don't know who it was, but it was very evident that they were watching us. Yeah, and it's not the government either. It's the tribal police. They are very, very, very concern about what's coming out of Skinwalker Ranch, what's going in. And it's funny that you're backing up my story because I, like I said, I was there with a crew. And we actually were lucky enough to be at a lookout point near the Mesa. And we were able to look over. but anytime we were poking around in the area in vernal would go to vernal and and i don't know if you ever got out to vernal but you go to vernal and uh they have the

they have the dinister museum out there they have all these cool things out there and we were being watched by tribal police and then eventually i was met by a tribal police officer coming out of a store um because i was speaking about skinwalker ranch and she was uh she told me she says there's a white guy i'm not supposed to talk about the skin walker. And for some reason, she phoned the police because she thought that I was somebody that was trying to, you know, dig information out of the tribes. And so this tribal police officer picked me up. And I sat in his vehicle with him and I told him who I was.

He knew who I was after I mentioned my name. And a lot of times that's got me out of trouble. I say, well, this is, I'm Clyde. And they're like, oh, we love your show. And they're very sympathetic to, you know, me trying to find information. But he just told me, he said, if you knew the legends and some of the old lore of Skinwalker Ranch, you'd find that far more interesting. But a lot of that information won't be released by the tribes. They just won't let it out because it's very sacred to them.

A lot of, I guess you could call it, tribal magic goes on. The medicine men, they're the reason why the Skinwalkers exist. And they've been used as weapons against people who have tried to do them wrong. And I think that's the thing is that if they were to realize the skin walkers and see they're saying well nothing really happens at skinwalker ranch anymore. Well, there's a reason because something I think offended the tribes. And so the skin walkers were there to protect the tribes. And I have a feeling that they were launched out there like Gallum to protect the tribes from anyone harming them. And then when the when the coast was clear and the tribes weren't harmed anymore, the skinwalkers disappeared.

That's incredible. That's incredible. I'll tell you, I could talk to you forever about the Skimwalker Ranch situation, but I got a feeling that I probably said too much. And right now my director's like, shut your mouth, Tony, right now. No, you actually confirmed my suspicions by saying it because if, well, if you and I had the same experience there, I was going to be arrested, but the cop didn't arrest me. And then if you guys were chased by cops too or you were being observed by cops, again, these are tribal policemen or tribal officers that are trying to protect the secret of Skinwalker Ranch. And it has nothing to do with the TV show. It has nothing to do with what we're being told.

It has everything to do with ancient medicine man, ritual, witchcraft, whatever you want to call it. That's what it is. geez well I I'll tell you Clyde I can't wait until I can talk more about what we've experienced to the public because like my my team they told me that I talk too much I like when I experienced that I just talk about right away and they're like dude you got to save it so that like it is like you got to release this information constructively and I'm just like I just like I just wind up talking you know so but maybe that's why people like me because I just I just say whatever I what comes to my mind so well I mean what's what's awesome like I said about this whole conversation is that we have shared experience that has been similar. Yeah. And it just confirms my suspicions from the get-go. There's more to this than aliens or some billionaires spending money to turn it into a scientific experiment or a lab or whatever or some big businessman.

It's a hotel maggot basically buying up the area. There's something more to it. And I think it has a lot to do with the ancient Native American traditions. And that includes skin walkers, werewolves, wear bears, you name it. They're in that area. And where cats, where human beings have gone into these ceremonies, have rubbed special sabs and oils on their bodies and have taken on the personalities of these creatures. This is something that is far more terrifying, in my opinion, than any UFO investigation could ever put you.

100%. 100%. So our first film was called Expedition Dogman, and we went to Kentucky hunting the dogman. And my cameraman, he floated the theory out there, the idea that is this some kind of dark magic ritual that people are experiencing in the moment when they see these creatures? is it actually a human being transforming their body? And that's an idea that we have been considering throughout a lot of our investigations because I think there's a lot of teeth to it.

So the fact that you brought that up, I mean, just kind of confirms it for us. Well, and here's another thing too. I had a guy that was an oil, he was an oil worker. Or actually, he had his hands or he had his money invested in oil rigs that were in the Dakotas. And he told me that there were skinwalkers blocking workers from going to the pipelines into the oil wells in the Dakotas. Now, think about that for a moment.

There were skin walkers blocking workers from going and working on the pipelines and the wells. Now, who would have the audacity to, or how is it that skin walkers were there at the wells unless they were placed there by, Native Americans trying to protect their land. Yes. Yes. So one of the things that we were told by one of the natives out there is that you're not supposed to dig this land. And right next to where we were, there was this giant oil drill just pumping 24-7 right there in the field.

And they said that this land could, from what I understand, the activity could be drummed up because of such things. So the fact that they encountered that where they were going. that makes total sense to me. Okay, so you were saying that you can't dig the land to your skin walker ranch. Is that true that you were told that? Well, not that I can't, but they told us

that the land is not supposed to be dug up. And because I guess whoever, I guess there's probably some kind of like commission or board, native commission board that approves these things and they approve the oil drilling in that area. They believe that there's... Well, here's the thing, here's the thing that I could give you a little tip. one of the reasons why the skin walker showed up was because of digging and water rights that the natives said were being violated.

And that's my story. That's the story that I have that has not been told, that I had heard that digging and water rights were being ignored and that the tribes asked them to stop. They didn't stop. And so they had to take matters in their own hands. And that's why the skin walkers showed up. Time to pay the piper. You don't listen. And it makes sense because you've got the skin walkers in the Dakota's protecting the oil

or at least protecting the land where the oil wells are. I mean, come on. I mean, and so this whole, you know, flash and whatever they have on TV is nothing compared to the idea that if you screw with the Native Americans, they have magic and powers that are unbelievable, but you can't even fathom. Oh, my gosh. I'll tell you, Clyde, I did not expect to go this direction, but I'm very glad we did. Like, I'm telling you, I got the same sense.

And when I went out to out there to Utah, like, it was my first time to Utah. I didn't know a ton about the ranch or anything. I obviously knew what everybody else knew, but I left there feeling like it's an area that you don't want to mess with, and especially naively. Like you don't want to go out there, like kind of like how I did where I kind of went out there naively. And I started uncovering all this stuff over a week period of time. And I walked away feeling like this could be a very dangerous place if you step on the wrong land or on the wrong toes. Yep. It's sacred land there.

That's one of the things they won't talk about. It's sacred land. And I had a friend of mine who told me that the reason why the land is sacred is in that mesa area, there is a vortex. And every once in a while, that vortex decides to swirl around. And with it, it brings in people, it brings in artifacts from the future, artifacts from the past. They're called aports. They throw in airports. And so they've found things there that defy all intelligence.

It's an amazing place. I mean, I'd like to be there if a vortex shows up. I'd like to be there because this friend of mine told me that he could pick up. coins from the 1700s out there. How did that happen? You know? Clyde, you're freaking killing me, man. Like, I got four more minutes with you.

You keep on throwing this stuff out of me. Recently on the show, I've been doing a lot of, like, more portal talk. I have a story that I'm sitting on right now that's actually spawning a brand new podcast because it's such a huge story. It's going to be its own show. And it has a lot to do with portal,

the interdimensionalism, the other realm, how things are being accessed, and the fact that I think that there are very natural portals, vortexes, but also man-made ones like Oak Ridge and CERN. And I'm telling you, man, I feel like all this stuff is connected. Like in one way or another, it's like a piece of a puzzle, and they all just kind of fit together. And we're just sitting here trying to figure out how it all kind of comes together. What you want to do is you want to check out the Gulf of Aden.

That's a really huge vortex there. Gulf of Aden is where they're fighting that war right now. But I had actually had a guy who called me and told me that one time they were there, they were trying to rescue a military craft there at the Gulf of Aden. And apparently the swimmers went down into the water and they came up and each one had a different time on their watch. So, I mean, when you're dealing with a vortex, you're not going to, you're not going to necessarily see it, but you're knowing that something about it is different.

Something is, you know, time is different or you feel like you're in a different time or you feel like anything can happen. And that's what you feel like at Skinwalker Ranch. You're there and something doesn't feel right in that area. And it's not because of the fact that you know something about the ranch because, quite frankly, the ranch is boring. it's the area there that is that's got that electro that electromagnetic feeling like it's out of place or it's at a different time zone or a different timeline absolutely that's how we we left feeling like

it just it just it the area is off it's just off and when we the further way we got from it the more we felt like things were turning back to normal and I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing because the world ain't too fun these days so maybe maybe hanging out in Utah and stuff would be a a better option at times. Listen, Clyde, I appreciate you coming on the show,

and I appreciate you spending some time with us and just chatting it up. There's a million things we could talk about, but I think that we gave everybody a show that

is just awesome, and they're probably going to be wanting more, and that's great. So that's a great way to leave. Well, I'm glad we have a shared experience because that just confirms, you know,

my thoughts, you know, did talk with somebody who's been there and that they had the same feelings as I did. and how, you know, those stories are not being heard. That's the beauty of what I do.

And hopefully that's what more people like you were going to do is finding those stories and those experiences that cut across the mainstream monopolies and get into the real nitty gritty of what the paranormal is all about. Absolutely. That's the goal of my life, my friend. That's the goal of my life. Clyde, I want to just let everybody know before we leave here if they're interested in listening to your show,

where can they find your show and stuff? I know it's a weekly live show, FM radio show, and then tell them about aftermath as well. Okay, this is how you listen to the show. I'm on from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Monday through Friday at specific time. We air on radio stations across the country. I don't know if there's one near you that plays us, but we're on many stations across the country. If not, you can check us out at Talkstreamlive.com or you can download the paranormal app. We're on that.

Also, there is Ground Zero. dot radio where we air the show from 7 to 10 Monday through Friday. If you do not get the shows during the time that they are free, you can subscribe to Aftermath.med. Media, we have archive shows, past shows, video, we have chat, we have social media, we have all kinds of things. It's our digital playground for research and for more study. That way you can actually back up what you say when people confront you on a lot of the crazy stuff you talk about.

So go to Aftermath. Dot Media and sign up today. It's a low-cost subscription. We have plans to fit every budget. So just go ahead and check out Aftermath.com media. That's Aftermath. Dot Media.

And really, it supports the show. And I thank you for supporting the show too. Absolutely. I just feel like I heard you doing a commercial for it. It's great. I recognize that. But yeah, no, I absolutely agree. Everybody should check it out.

And I just saw on Apple, you guys also do like the Ground Zero classics. So if anybody's like, this sounded like it was a good show, but what am I really getting? Go listen to some old episodes, listen to some old shows and think, okay, I want the newer, more up-to-date information, aftermath. And I'm telling everybody straight up right now, if it comes down between supporting my show and supporting Aftermath, go with Aftermath because he gives you entertainment plus life-changing information.

So just check out Aftermath. I promise you, you're not going to regret it. Clyde, thanks so much for being with us. Thank you so much too. You guys have a great weekend and we'll talk soon. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. I actually, you know what, I don't care if you enjoyed it or not. I really enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun talking to Clyde. It's something I wanted to do for a long time. And when he agreed to come on the show and chat with me, it was one of those bucket list items for me. So whether you enjoyed it or not, I totally enjoyed it.

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