The Confessionals - RELOADED | 532: Mothers Of Darkness

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

In Episode 532: Mothers Of Darkness we are joined by Jessie Czebotar who has one of the most unique stories we have ever had on The Confessionals. I stumbled across Jessie's story about 4 years ago on Daniel Duvall's show. She was operating under the pseudonym of Jane. Jessie was born into an Illuminati family bloodline for the Mothers Of Darkness. When she was just a little girl she was hand-picked by Satan himself to be the successor to her grandmother as the head of the order. But God had other plans for her life and she went from being trained up to lead the darkest organization on earth to leading the charge on illuminating the darkness she escaped from.Hurricane Helene Relief Efforts List: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/helene-reliefSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsUNCOMMON GOODS: uncommongoods.com/tonyGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - Agartha (feat. Nergui)YouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

Merkel. I guess it's time to go back in time. Are you telling me you built a time machine? Kind of a Dolion? Time is but a stubborn illusion. I have a lot of memories of the past. People are time traveling within themselves. Time travel is possible.

This was all circulating around the base. that a giant had been killed but no one was supposed to talk about it. Long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant. With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast. And spears Dan, holds him up.

like this. Somebody else. Shoot them in the face. Shoot them in the face. They basically decapitate them. Over and there are two. Push and it couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Okay. I reload it.

Yep. Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I'm your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. If you have a crazy wild experience, you want to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is Contact at theconfessionalspodcast.com.

That's contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. or go to the website, theconfessionalspodcast.com, hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either it works for me, just get a hold of me. Listen, friends, we got member episodes every Thursday available to the members to the confessionalspodcast.com. If you're interested in checking out the membership section, you can go to theconfessionalspodcast.com, hit the join button and get access to every Thursday bonus episode ever to exist. Plus, you get access to add free listening of the Tuesday shows and overtime segments of those Tuesday shows, when they're available. Okay, this week we have Jesse coming on the show. And Jesse is somebody that I have

been talking to, well, for on and off for a few years, to be honest with you. I've known about her for a long time, even when she was going by a pseudonym. She is somebody who was handpicked by Satan himself as a child, a little child, to be the successor to her grandmother, who was the lead mother of darkness. That's right. Her grandmother was the head of the mothers of darkness. Over the years, people have asked me. Do you know anything about the Mothers of Darkness? I knew a little bit. Then my knowledge grew more and more over the years, but I was not about to do an episode on the Mothers of Darkness without having a Mother of Darkness on the show. Now, Jesse is not a mother of darkness because she actually became a Christian as a child and moved away from that life and God protected her through a lot of

abuses. But I wanted her on the show to share the story, not somebody to share their thoughts on the mother's darkness, but I wanted somebody who was in line to be a mother of darkness on the show telling their story, telling it firsthand experience. And that's what we have today with Jesse. So let's get to Jesse and her story about being hand-chosed by Satan to be a mother of darkness, how she got out of that lifestyle and what she's doing today to fight back the darkness in these dark times. Let's get to Jesse right now. All right, today we got Jesse Sabotter on the show. How are you, Jesse? Doing well. I'm glad you're here. And we just talked real briefly. And I just wanted to kind of lay the foundation

here for what people are going to get today. I, you, so I just told you this a little bit, but I found you when I was driving truck years ago. I want to say this was probably like 2018, 2019. Yeah, early. You went by the name Jane when I knew you. I did. I was driving truck and I recently had Dan DeVall on the show for the first time and I think I actually brought this story up a little bit with him just in the sense of it relating to him but I stumbled across his show somehow on Apple Podcasts and I heard you talking about your story about how you were born into a bloodline's family and you were chosen by Satan to be a mother of darkness and we'll get into all that today.

But when I heard you tell this story, I remember it was very hard to drive that day because I just, it was like everything that I've been thinking about and learning along the way was kind of like coming together. And I was like, and I think it was the birthing moment in my mind where I was like, the higher we get into governments, the more corrupt and satanic it becomes. And it's like the idea of like the paranormal and conspiracies merge and they get closer and closer the higher up you go.

And your story kind of really depicts that. Now, it's funny because my one friend Sam Tripley at Tim Foil Hot podcast, he texts me one day after I heard your story. And he said, have you ever heard of the mother's darkness? And I'm just like, holy crap. Yeah, yeah, I have. And I think he actually invited me to come on and talk about it. I was like, sure, but I didn't know much. And we didn't ever do it anyways. So from that moment on, I was really trying to find who you were. And it wasn't until listeners started sending me,

I think it was YouTube videos with you. And they're like, you got to check this lady out. And it was one of those moments where I was like, I recognize the voice, but I don't recognize the name. And it took me a few minutes to put things together. But I realized that you were the same person that I had heard years ago. And I was on a mission to have a chance to speak with you and let you share your story with my audience because the people tuning in, they tune in to hear people's life stories.

They tune in to hear people's experiences with the paranormal, supernatural, lots of different things. And I think your story is just one I think is going to be put down in the record books for my show. And so I'm really excited about it. Before we get into your story, though, I want to give you an opportunity to promote some things. In fact, we didn't talk about this before, but if you have books you want to promote too,

I would like for you to do that as well because I think it's important for people to know where to find your literature so they can read through it and maybe not have to find a spot at, you know, minute 48 where she said something, they could just flick to the page, you know? So if you could, just let people know what you're about and what you're doing right now because some of the things you're doing with Congress is pretty cool. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I have two websites. The first is illuminate the darkness.com.

And on there, you know, my heart, because of my background, is really towards those who are whistleblowers, those who are survivors, those who are veterans who are, you know, who have been harmed by the U.S. military or the government. So in that ministry, we support them. We get monthly donations. If you'd like to donate, you can do that through Illuminate the Darkness, P.O. Box 10, 443, Fargo, Nor. Dakota 5A106. And ours is different than others. We don't just give, you know, regular donations out. Usually we're looking for those special circumstances. A lot of people we support. Again, they're whistleblowers. They need more long-term support because because of their whistleblowing or they're coming out of dangerous situations. They're not able just to go get jobs or support

themselves. So, you know, we kind of come along as that long-term help to make sure that they have their basics, which would be rent, bills, emergency needs, medical cars, repairs, things like that. So, you know, we're always looking for people to help out with that. We always have monthly needs with that. The second website I have is kingdom living with jesse.com. And that really is my passion. You know, God didn't just bring me out of this occult for no reason. His desire is to raise each of us up into his heavenly kingdom positions that he's prepared in advance for us. So on that website, I have two shows every week. One is Rise Up, which is every Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern.

The other's riding the storms, which is at 6 p.m. Eastern. They have different focuses. Rise up's going to work on building up your faith, teaching you how to really live. the new life that you have in the Lord. Riding the storms is going to be focused on challenges, temptations, trials that we all go through. What resources are available to us and how do we navigate those storms of life? Right now we've got a great series going on called Foreign Marriages, and we really go after sexual alters, and that's A-L-T-A-R-S.

And we talk about, you know, the spiritual impact that, you know, these entities that attack us, how do we, you know, make sure that our lives are pure? How do we get rid of unwanted spiritual attacks in those areas? So, you know, we're going to be that type of show that, you know, we're not like the regular church where we're afraid to talk about the hard things, you know, we're going to come straight out in the open and teach you how to live, how to navigate your faith. So I have a event coming up in Tampa, Florida. You can get tickets off of kingdom living with jesse.com. And that is going to be a dynamic event. It goes off of my courses that are available also on that site. The first course is

Foundations and Kingdom Living. In there, you know, again, we're going to go through the basics of faith. What is your identity in Christ? What authority do you have in the kingdom? And I'm going to propose, you know, there's many people who are listening today who need a miracle somewhere in their life. Maybe they need healing. Maybe there's things in their life that are dead and stagnant. They feel ineffective, unproductive. Maybe there's areas in your life where you need cleansing.

Or maybe it is those areas where you're dealing with depression or, or, oppression or demonic attack. Well, the good news is that these courses are going to give you everything that you need to learn how to navigate through those issues. The course launch coming up in Tampa, Florida, March 24th through 26, is the second in that series of courses. And we're going to move beyond just that understanding of who you are and how you live to now you're going to live it. and the Lord literally is performing miracles. He is giving the release, showing us how to get these miracles to release, and we're watching them happen.

So I encourage everybody if you can come for the live taping of that, it's great. If not, it will be available on the website after. I also have three books. The first one, I want to just encourage anybody who's out there who's grieving. I lost my son over a year ago to a car accident. And my first book is Five Minutes of Grief with God. I encourage you to get that. It's going to walk you through just five minutes at a time.

If you have somebody you know who's grieving, it's a great resource. The second book is The Anointing Overflows, and that's for those who are invested in wanting to see a shift in your community. or in your home or in your own personal life, how do we use anointing oil? What are the benefits? What does it do? The third book is His Kingdom Comes in Power, and that goes right along with my two courses that are on the site. But that book is really about, you know, who is our enemy?

Who are we at war with? Is Satan real? How do we know he's real? and I walk you through actual stories in my chaplain career. They go into detail to explain the answer to those questions. So that's where you can find me at. Awesome. Well, I encourage people to check out that stuff.

In fact, the book here that you were just talking about, The Anointing Overflows, I'm going to be checking out myself. I was raised Pentecostal, and so I'm not foreign to Anointing. oil, but I was never really taught or told how to use. I have anointing oil. I just, you know, I use it. In fact, I sometimes, before I started an interview with my one friend, every time he was talking about this certain topic, the people that were interviewing him, their gear was just going kaput. And he came down here to my studio, and we had this group conversation over here, and my mixer board got fried.

It's now like a decorative piece on my shelf across the room over here because it just got fried. And so I went and got a new one. And we brought him down again with two other shows that all had technical difficulties when he was talking about the certain topic. And before we started that whole conversation, though, I walked around my entire office building, noting the doorways, all the equipment, everything, the, the, the, the, routers because I was just like, we need to get this done. And I can't be buying another mixer. So yeah, anyways, I encourage people to check out the websites, the event, if you're in the area,

if you can travel, that's really cool. In fact, North Dakota, we were thinking about moving, before we moved to Tennessee, we were talking about moving to South Dakota. So we would have been neighbors. But we would have been. I don't know if you would have been too happy there. It gets pretty cold. Well, that's why we didn't go. I mean, today I have a, it's, it's almost 80 degrees in Tennessee, and it's snowing mountains of snow in Washington State. So I'm happy where I'm at. And the reason why we didn't go to South Dakota is because like it has 50 inches of snow a year. No thanks. So. Right. Right. But, um, all right. So let's get into it. Jesse, you, I want to hand it over to you and let you go into detail as to your experience growing up as a child.

And however you want to portray this story, I know you've done a million times, but if you want to start, you know, from the childhood and work your way up, or if you want to talk about how you remember, how you started coming to remember this stuff, because if I remember correctly, it's not like, I think these things started coming back to her time. I might be wrong in saying that. I'm not sure, but. Well, no, it was a direct command from the Lord, so I'll get there. Perfect. Okay. So I'm just going to. I'll start with the childhood. Sounds good. Yeah. So, you know, it really starts with my parents. I grew up in what I thought were, was just a regular family. My dad's side were Lutheran. They went to church on the holidays and, you know, kind of when they felt like it. I like to tease that the only thing they did religiously was fish. It was a hive family, you know, a fisherman. And so I grew up fishing at a very young age. My mother's side were devout Catholics and, you know, they went to Mass

regularly. And it was that side of the family that actually, you know, was bloodline and held the secret that they really were part of the Luciferian Brotherhood and very high-level members in the Luciferian Brotherhood. But, you know, before all that even happened or began, the Lord was very aware of everything that I was going to go through in my life. And so at age two, he began to shift and move things to put me into the position that he wanted me to be in as I went through my trauma and my experience in the occult. And so at age two, our house pipes froze and we had to move in with one of my father's relatives who was a Christian. And although both my parents went to church, neither of them had a relationship with God. They weren't really pursuing that.

And, you know, this family member began to witness to my mother and me and invited us to church. And I can remember my very first time in church. I was the only kid in the nursery, you know, at two years old. And there was this amazing woman, little Mexican woman named Lily. And she was not one to water down the Bible or the gospel or things about God just because I was little. She literally sat me on her lap, opened up the scripture, and began to read to me from the book of John. And I can remember when I heard those words, like my soul just leaped, like I knew it was true. And I left that morning proclaiming, you know, get ready. Jesus is coming.

I was telling everybody, get ready. And, you know, that was the one thing I just, I knew to be absolutely true. So we attended that church for over a year on and off. And as I did, Lily gave me more and more tools to put in my little toolbox, you know, of faith. And a lot of Bible songs, just simple little things like the B-I-B-L-E song and others. And a lot of memorization of different verses. So at the end of that year, when I was three, my mom came to the Lord and sat me down and said, Would you like to ask Jesus into your heart?

And I said, yes, you know. And so at three, I asked the Lord to come into my life and to forgive me of my sins and to be my Lord and Savior. Now, all of that was preparatory to what was going to happen in the next year. So at around age four and a half, we had to move in with our other side of the family. And, you know, I had no idea what they did. I didn't know I had been chosen or that I was, you know, special or anything like that. But they had chosen me. And they had chosen me to pretty much be the successor for my female relative who was a queen

mother of darkness. And literally it's all of her family, all the women in her family, they're all sisters who were the queen mothers of darkness. And so, you know, my introduction to that group was a story that I had told on Dan Duval, where, you know, I call that female relative my proctor. That's her official title in the position when she's in that place of training. So, you know, they would just call her the proctor and I was the successor training for that position. So anyway, her first thing was that she, you know, in one of the churches in Rockford, Illinois, which was the main place of my abuse, one of the main training centers, she met with the old guard mothers of darkness and in this it's really hard to explain this sometimes because

there really was no fighting or no war like in their world they know that you know the current or the woman who was the proctor who was the queen mother of darkness for my proctor knew her time was up and they have certain things that they do and they just accept when their time is up, they know their time is up. So, you know, I entered into this ceremony with my proctor where she beheaded the former Queen Mother of Darkness, and she took that position. In the midst of that, you know, there was a point where she took my face in her hands and said to me, you know, one day you'll do this to me. And I was just sitting there thinking, no, no, I won't. But that was my introduction to that world.

The next thing, you know, began at school. They would target us at school. And they had 20 children that they invited us into this school room. And the mothers of, three of the mothers of darkness came. And they began to set all these objects in the middle of us children sitting in a circle. And they were occultic objects, things like terror. arrow cards, feathers, shawls, candles, you know, I mean, all sorts of stuff. They had daggers, all sorts of stuff. And they told us that we were going to play a game. And the game was that,

you know, we were supposed to go up when it was our turn, pick one of the items and show everybody, put it back down, and sit back down. Now, when I heard that, that was the most ridiculous game. I think that I had ever heard. And I started laughing. I was like, what is the fun of that if you don't get to keep your item, right? And none of those items were even things that I was like, what in the world is that like, what kind of game is this? So as I'm kind of laughing to myself, the little boy next to me, he starts laughing too. And I looked at him and without saying a word, I said, can you hear me? and he responded yes. And so ended up this little boy,

the best way to describe our relationship was that we were like twins. You know, we could hear each other's thoughts in the spirit world. We could communicate with one another and we had a bond that was just like twins. And he was chosen to be my protector in the system. you know, being in a high-level position that I was chosen for, I needed somebody that would go with me and, you know, be eyes on and make sure that I was protected from others who might try to, you know, according to them, illegally or unlawfully usurp the throne. So our training then, you know, it went from just me to I always had this little boy who experienced everything with me. and that was from 1981 to 1984. And so the next event that we really went through, you know,

was the murder of his parents who his mother had found out that he had been chosen to be my protector for the system. And she was making plans to run with his eight-year-old sister and his little brother. and the system took them out before that. And so we watched that graphic murder. And what happened then was that they placed him with a man that I knew as his grandfather. Looking back, I do not know if this man really was his grandfather or not. This man ended up being a Nazi.

and his name was Michael Carcock, and he was the Ukrainian Legion of Defense Leader for Adolf Hitler. So this is one of the biggest things that I want to bring out before Congress is that our U.S. government and a military allowed these Nazis to have access through the military to children and allowed them to do experience or to have to have. us engaged in the experiments and projects that I'll get into here in a minute. But so he moved in with Michael Carcock, and, you know, they lived in a house that was kitty corner to ours about a block and a half down the road.

Now, in this world, you know, we had cover lives. So, you know, nobody in the public eye, even people within that system, unless they were higher level, like grand priest or grand high priestess, they had no clue who I was. They didn't even know the true identities of the mothers of darkness. So as we begin to look at the structure of this system of the Luciferian Brotherhood, the best way to think about it is to imagine a triangle. At the very top of that triangle, you have the five mothers of darkness. you also cross from them have a subgroup of five men known as Merlin.

We'll get into their story later. But the main structure, you have the Five Mothers of Darkness. Underneath them, you have what we call the Council of 300 or the Druidic Council, the Satanic Council. It's also maybe goes by some other names that the audience may know, which would be the Galactic Federation or the, the Federation Alliance or the Global Alliance. So it goes by many names. Initially, there's 300 seats where individuals who are Grand High Priest or Priestesses or those who are bloodline

or chosen for the councilmen positions are going to sit on there. If you're curious as to some of those names of the councilmen, one of their sub-rength. One of their sub-reason, Council Chambers is the Bilderbergs, and you can look up their participation list and watch and see who rotates on that list. They do a rotation for four years, and they can choose one person out of their quadrant to continue to rotate, or they can have multiple people from a quadrant that rotate. but their job is to receive orders from the mothers of darkness. Now, the mothers of darkness, they get their orders straight from Lucifer himself. I also call him Satan.

I use the names interchangeably. To me, they're the same being the same person. So every night, you know, we would meet with Lucifer and we would get his agenda, both long-term, short-term, and the mother's job is to ensure, that the system continues to run and operate the way Satan desires it to operate. They give their orders, depending on which quadrant. They're going to, to the councilman. The councilman will sit on quadrants that go east, northwest, east, south,

both internationally as well as in the United States. So both are represented separately. So underneath them, you have the Grand High Priest or Priestesses. Those are going to be the individuals under the councilmen who their job is to make sure that the system is operating within specific quadrants. So I had several Grand High Priestesses in my situation and Grand High Priest. Some of those were Colonel Michael Aquino for the U.S. military. We also had John Brennan, who was head over a CIA. We also had individuals like Lori Cabot Kent, who comes from, you know, her bloodline comes

through the Kent family and the Cabot families out of the UK, connected to the Royals. She was one of my top teachers. I also had for a short period of time, Gloria Vanderbilt, who was Andrew. and Carter Cooper's mom. So both of those high priestesses were out of the east. Brennan also was over the east in the U.S., and then Aquino was over the west. So they'll just oversee their quadrant,

their areas of jurisdiction. Now they're going to be in charge of those who are called high priest or priestesses. And so once you get into the question, They begin to break down by regions. You know, so it could be by state. It could be even further, you know, by city, county, things like that. So they'll be placed to a certain regional area. And the high priest and priestesses, their job is to oversee the five departments within their region.

So those five departments in the system are going to be the more. Mormons, the Masons, the Jesuit Catholics, the Satanists, and the Kabbalah. The system wants you to believe that they're all separate, that their beliefs, their focus are all separate. Within the system, everybody's allowed to choose how they express their beliefs. So that's why we see it in all these different departments. But the truth is that all of them, over the head of them, is the Luciferian Brotherhood. And, you know, their main goal is to, you know, ensure the operations of their system and their beliefs of brotherhood. So there's a lot of cross-connecting that goes between those departments.

And each of those departments, their job is to oversee the system's asset. there are two assets. The first is what we call the hierarchy children. Those are those who are born into the system who are bloodline and chosen for certain positions. Now, not everybody's going to be high-level positions like I was. They, you know, may not even fit into that triangle. You know, they may be chosen for something else in the system. Like, it could be as simple as the Catholic secretary, you know, at the Catholic Church. But they're chosen for a position and they're going to be trained to take that position to make sure that the system keeps operating. The second group of assets is what the system calls expendable children. Those are the children that are given

just to make them money. There's nothing that they do to serve the system other than, you know, elite members are the ones that are going to be abusing and committing crimes against these children. The expendable children, you know, I try to break it down so people understand what expendable means to the system. You know, it's all different ways of income. And they make a lot of income off of each child. first they're going to make money off of that child being sexually exploited and trafficked. There is no age limit on that. So, you know, it's not like a child turns five and they get put into a trafficking ring.

There is no age limit. So, you know, this sexual abuse can begin the moment that child is born. It can begin later. it just depends on whoever is in charge of that child's sexual exploitation. The next way is that once the child no longer can be used sexually, they begin bidding and putting in money to either be able to ritually kill or to cannibalize that child. You know, human market is big in the Brotherhood system.

It's been hidden for so many years, but it's going to start coming out in front of our faces how big that human market is and what organizations participate in it. I think many of us are going to be surprised when we find out how everything has been operating. So, you know, the elite will pay more money to either ritually kill or to cannibalize the child. then they will pay more money to have the remains turned into a diamond. They choose, if they want to keep that as a trophy diamond, like we see in a lot of rings that Hollywood or Vatican individuals wear, those rings display their magical power and, you know, what dimensions they're able to access through sex magic.

So, you know, they will keep trophy rings. They will, you know, display their magical abilities through these diamonds and other forms of jewelry with it. If they choose not to keep it for a trophy, they will sell it on the black market for even more money, or sometimes even to jewelers for more money. after that they will take the remains of the ashes and they will sell those to our pharmacia and to our food companies and that is specifically done to curse us because scripture says that whoever consumes blood or human flesh is cursed so they want the general public unknowingly to constantly be in a state of unrighteousness before God under a

curse. I get a lot of people who freak out when they first hear that because it is, it's in everything. They use it as a filler. There is no way to really avoid, even for those who, you know, try to buy things naturally, grow your own. It is being put into animal feed. It's being put into fertilizer. It's being put into products that we use to help our crops. grow, it's being put into the water. So it is so vast and so difficult to know. But that's where we really need to put our faith into practice. You know, we serve a God who is able to turn water into wine.

So I fully believe that if we pray before we eat, we ask the Lord to cleanse our food and to cleanse it from all wickedness, all curses put against us, I believe the Lord transforms our food, that he protects it along the way. So we're not getting that curse and we're not participating in the evil of cannibalization like these individuals do. So let your heart rest in that. You know, trust the Lord, pray, and know that you don't need to go through a crazy game of trying to figure out everything. you know, that has it in there. Just trust the Lord if he tells you not to eat something.

Don't need it. You know, trust him and put good, healthy things into your body. So that's kind of, you know, the basics of, you know, how the system works and operates. Now, in my experience as I continued in that system and my training continued, It went beyond just ritual, beyond just satanic things, beyond, you know, learning different forms of high-level magic. You know, it really then began to interface with the U.S. military and certain military bases. That was where Michael Carcock, the Nazi I mentioned earlier, was highly involved. From my understanding, as he came into the U.S.,

in the early or the late 1940s. His job was to begin to train Michael Aquino to learn how to operate not only the spiritual gates, but also the programs for the Brotherhood system through the U.S. military in the West. And Brennan was chosen to operate the programs in the East. Both of them had a different emphasis in the programs. both programs included children as well as military veterans or individuals who were in the military.

One of the first things that they did was, you know, as they were choosing me for these programs, was they had to test, you know, my ability to function under adrenochrome. Adrenochrome is, you know, basically blood mixed with, you know, they'll mix it with adreno, which is a hormone that comes from your adrenal glands. All of my teachers, especially Carcock, Lori Cabot, Kent, my proctor, they were all skilled in the ancient forms of procuring adrenochrome and other hormones that they would mix into these tinctures that they would make. You know, they would vary a little bit,

and there were two different types of adreno. The first type, they would mix with vodka. You know, they would take the hormones and put them into vodka in a tincture that way. And that would be used daily. So, you know, what happens when our natural adreno growth, or sorry, hetrinos glands are functioning,

it gives us that heightened awareness, that heightened spiritual acuity. We're very alert. We're very aware. So that's the state they want, you know, those in these programs to be in. They wanted us to spiritually be,

you know, top notch, running at full force, fully aware of everything going on, as well as having heightened spiritual gifts because of it. So that was the first one. The second type they only used during rituals, particularly ritual sacrifice. And they would mix the adreno and other hormones with formaldehyde.

And that would cause whoever drank it to immediately go into a psychosis. The best way I can describe adrenomycosis is that you all of a sudden have this intense anger that you cannot control this rage and you just want to literally shred everything that you see and utterly destroy. So, you know, when they were testing us with this drug, they would, they put us into straight jackets, me and my training partner. They locked us in a padded room with smaller children. And, you know, you know, you know, waited for things to have its full effect, to see, you know, how much they could give us and when we would go into that psychosis.

Coming off of the adrenochrome makes made me really nauseous. I would always throw up and puke afterwards. So it really was not a fun experience. And my concerns that I have brought out is that this. This is the reason behind a lot of the PTSD and issues that we see, especially with Iraq, the Afghanistan soldiers coming back, is, you know, I believe that the U.S. military has been putting adreno in their food. Why I propose that is throughout the generations, we hear stories from these soldiers of war who talk about, you know, everything looked like it had a brown grape. you with it, right? Well, when I was a kid, they would put my adreno in with a banana mixture because when you're at that heightened acuity and you're in that go-go-go-go mood, it drains your potassium.

So I would have to eat 10 bananas a day to stay at that high level of potassium that my body needed. And, you know, they literally would take the bananas out of the peel. They would mash them up. And next thing I know, the bananas are brown. And it's like, why are the bananas brown? Now, later, you know, I went back. I mashed up my own. They don't turn brown right away.

So why were my bananas brown as a kid? It was because they were putting adreno powder or something on there with it. So, you know, that's some of the. issues that I think, you know, really affect the current world. After, you know, they figured that out, my training with the military began. It began in a project called The Looking Glass. With that project, they begin to introduce you to the spiritual gates. These are not new concepts.

You know, we may have seen them in shows like Star Wars or, you know, what's that other one? It's like Stargate is another one. All of those are based off of real things. Not all of the spiritual gates look that way. Many of them just look very natural

like scenery. You wouldn't even know that you were standing right in front of it. But these are the floodgates that Scripture talks about in Genesis chapter 5 and 6. Even before that it talks about

God created a firmament, and he commanded that firmament above and below to hold water. And we learned that in Genesis, I think it's five, when the flood was, that, or maybe it's Genesis 6, it's one of those two. But we learned in there that when God caused the floodwaters to fall, that those floodgates release the water that was in them. all of God's creation is living and active. Just like the rest of creation, those floodgates respond to God's voice. They also were created for purpose.

The best way to describe their purpose is that, you know, their gateways from the physical earth to the spiritual world. The largest spiritual gates operate for, so they give access to the throne of God and to other places in the heavenly realms and to the upper dimensions, whereas they also will give access to the lower dimensions. Scripture talks about how when some of the angels that followed Lucifer were cast from heaven, those we call the fallen angels, that some of them were so. terrible that they were not given permission to wander the earth and they were chained in the lower abyss and in the lower realms. So those spiritual gates have access to those lower realms. The other spiritual gates that are the minor or the middle ones, those operate horizontally

from a point A to B. And it could be multiple points. You know, Some of the gates that I knew, like the one in Chicago, that one had access to Nerschfundstein Castle in Germany. It also had access to Yellowstone, you know, at the National Park there. And it had many other places that had access to some Wisconsin areas. So they will use these spiritual gates for travel when they need to. And so with the looking glass project, you begin to learn about these spiritual gates and you begin to interface with them. What happens with interfacing, you know, what does that mean? It means that you begin to begin to look and see and experience the spiritual realm.

So, you know, there's different ways that that can be done at the U.S. military, classifies all these forms as forms of remote viewing. The first type of remote viewing is where, you know, your physical body is one place, but your spiritual body, you know, will separate from your physical body and leave that body, you know, as though you're sleeping while your spirit is engaging in the spirit world. That's called astro projection. I don't remote view that way. I never have.

So I can't tell you much more about that experience. I have witnessed others who have. But the way that I always saw it was as though it was in a vision where I would be awake. It was like I was having a dream while I was awake. I would fully be seeing the physical world as it was. But I also would be seeing this overlap of the same. spirit world where I could literally be seeing two places at one time. And I could experience those places at one time. So, you know, we had rituals where we would be at Chicago performing that

ritual and all of a sudden this veil of the spirit world would open up and we could look. We could see exactly what was happening at the ritual in Germany. We could hand stuff to each other. through that spirit world, we could just step over and we could be there in Germany instead of in Chicago. So that was how I experienced that. The second project, once we got through the Looking Glass, and let me add one more thing about Looking Glass. Looking Glass was particularly used by the U.S. military in order to gain information about the future and about future. events. I believe shows like the Simpsons literally was based off the of the biofeedback of children

that were in that looking glass experiment. So that's why we see certain things that were like, how did the Simpsons know that? It's not that they knew or the show creators knew. It's that the Luciferian Brotherhood has been gathering this information through the U.S. military for years. So, you know, they would, you know, we would look into the spirit world and we would see future events. And then they would have, usually our groups of, let me kind of rephrase that, the experiment consisted of little groups of three. So I had two boys that were in my experiment with me.

one of them has now has come forward a little bit we're encouraging him to come forward more but one is a very famous name you'll know and that was Elon Musk the other boy was my training partner all right and before you go any further

before you go any further I do you're rolling let me just get this straight because I don't want to forget this one of one of the little boy that you interacted with was Elon Musk? Correct. It does not surprise me at all. And his mother, I've talked about Elon Musk real briefly on the show in recent months.

Continue on. I'm sorry, I just wanted to make sure I got that straight because I just, holy cow, okay. Yeah, so there was three of us and we all had different, like they would choose who would be in these little groups. based on certain things. So I was the child that always would see the end time result. So whatever the end result of that event was, that's what I would see. Elon was somebody that he would see the step by step. Like he couldn't see what happened at the very end, but he would see the steps leading up to that event.

The other boy, he also would see the step by step. but then he would see the consequences of those steps. Like, you know, if you took that step, what would happen? So they would choose three children that would, you know, work together in conjunction that way. And so as the information about the event happened, it would almost be like a three-fold check. Because, you know, they would see the steps that would lead up to that event. They would see the consequences that would happen if the choices unfolded as it was seen. and then they would look at that end time event and they would say,

huh, well, is that what we want to happen? Or can we play with the choices along the line and somehow make it turn out different? So they began to do that and try to use the predictions to manipulate time and events that would occur. Now, what's interesting about that is that all the children, I mean, they did these experiments, you know, I would say probably from the 50s to 60s, then my generation was the 70s to 80s. So for over, you know, 50 years, they did these experiments,

gathered all these details. And they literally, like our biofeedback after an episode, we would have to give every detail. What did we see? What did we hear? What did we feel? you know, what did we smell? And they would rate us like, you know, on, we wouldn't be together when we would give our biofeedback. We would all be in separate rooms. And then they would rate, you know, well, you know, Jesse with the other little boy, her training partner, how real is there, you know, how connected is the story or the details? We had 100% biofeedback. We would give almost exactly the same details word for word. Elon was considered 60% feedback with us. So 60% of what we gave in detail is what he would give, which was still pretty close. The top U.S. military general

that they had who would engage in that with us, he was at an 80% biofeedback from us. So, you know, they would have four people's details and, you know, all at about 60% with one another. So they would rate all those things as they were gathering the information. Interestingly enough, there was, you know, as they did this throughout the years, they began to realize that nobody was able to see or get details past the year 2024. And why was that? I fully believe it's because, you know, God has already written the end of the story in the book of revelation in the Bible. And they cannot manipulate. They cannot change the outcome or the details of that story. Everything begins to merge, you know, that has happened through the years, even with their trying to twist and manipulate.

everything begins to merge onto the one timeline that they cannot do anything about. So we're getting to that time where they no longer will be able to do anything about what the Lord has coming. So the next project and program that we went into was known as the Star Wars programs. and there's many that are in that series. Initially, it started off being called Skinante. The specific group I was in was called Star Wars Now. And with that, you know, we worked with U.S. military generals and we learned how to operate further, you know,

no longer just looking and vision into the spiritual gate. We learned how to operate the spiritual gates. They operate off a frequency. sound, light, harmony, song is probably the best way to put it. In order to get the spiritual gate open, you have to be able to hear the song

and you need to be able to get the right frequency, the right notes, and come into alignment with that gate to get it to open. They created CERN, which, you know, before CERN, everything was done through voices and through groups of people operating these gates together, which is why witches and warlocks would gather into places. They would dance, they would engage in sexual magic, which would be frequency, and they would get those

spiritual gates open. Now, scripture talks about these gates beyond just the book of Genesis. the book of Psalms, even King David speaks about these gates. He says, you know, enter the Lord's gates with Thanksgiving in your heart. Enter his courts with praise. So how do you enter these gates? How do you get to the heavenly courts of the Lord? You have to do it through Thanksgiving and praise. So even King David knew that these gates opened through Psalm. Thanksgiving is the frequent that they have to have to open that. Because the Luciferian Brotherhood don't worship God and they don't want to give him thanks and praise, and they can't genuinely do it, they cannot replicate that frequency of Thanksgiving as it is.

But they can replicate something that comes very close that still opens the gates, and that's ecstasy. And that's why they use sex magic. to open the spiritual gates. And that's particularly why they target children in their sex magic is because children have no control or filter over those emotions and they can get that frequency replicated. So that's why they'll use a lot of the kids in the sex magic.

So with that, you know, we began to learn to. operate those gates, open them up, go in. We learned to, you know, do recon in different intel gathering types of missions to start off with. We begin to learn more about our spiritual gifts and our spiritual warfare abilities. The U.S. military is directly connected to Satan or Lucifer's demonic army. So in there, you know, I learned that that all of these Bible stories and these names about fallen angels or names that are out of the book of Enoch are not just, you know, idols that were given names that were worshipped throughout the generations. These are Satan's generals in his army. I knew nine of them. And, you know, that was some like Avedon, who, who's also called Apollin. He oversees a lot of the military programs

that the U.S. government runs. Then you had demon generals like Ball, Astoroth, who tend to work together, Moloch, Toth, Leviathan, Azazale, Chemish, and Samail. So those are the ones that I learned and worked with in those programs. their one goal is still to fulfill Satan's agenda,

which he's had since the beginning of time, and that's that he wants to usurp the throne of God. He wants to sit on the throne as God. Now, what happened was that as he was cast out of heaven, along with his demonic generals, they lost access to the throne room of God. Satan is allowed to go up there. Scripture tells us in many places,

like the Book of Job or Zachariah 3, he's allowed to go up there to accuse believers, you know, and to bring his accusations against them for unrighteousness. Why does he do that? It's because it all has to do with the physical land rights. In Genesis, God gave man dominion over the land, over the earth. but Satan wants that dominion and how does he get it? He basically steals it from us by keeping us in a state of unrighteousness.

So that's why he goes to the courts of heaven. It's to levy for, you know, his strongholds, the places he builds up, that he has rights to be here because we're unrighteous. Nobody's fighting him to remove those strongholds of wickedness, the places where, you know, filmers are doing pornography or where there's alcohol or drugs or, you know, murder going on. He says, I have every right to be in those places and have my demonic generals there because everywhere you go, all there is is unrighteousness. So his demonic generals are not allowed to go into the courts of heaven. So how can he usurp the throne of God when it's just him?

So he found a way to bypass that. We have authority over the land and the earth and we've been given rule to reign with Christ. So he will do all these experiments to figure out, what spiritual gifts children have. And who has gifts that align with his demonic army? And who will host his army? You know, beyond his generals, he has an entire demonic army of unclean spirits.

He wants to, you know, have people possessed with those spirits because we can get through the gates and go into the throne room of God. So that's his plan and what the U.S. military has been working towards is to try to connect human children to those demonic armies. So as the projects got further with that, the third step is we went into the Voice of God project, which is exactly what I just described. It's all about the end times. It's all about Satan usurping the throne of God and having human hosts for his demonic army.

They're gearing up for that. Revelation, the book Revelation talks about Battle of Armageddon. That's where Satan plans to make his assault on the throne room of God with his army. They're in the Valley of Jesrael. So with that, you know, there was several different sub-programs. The ones that I was privy to were programs like I am. And with that, I.M. has two types of soldiers that are trained. The first type are those that are called the Alpha soldiers. Those are going to be individuals who are trained to prepare things for the upcoming events to make sure that everything is where it needs to be. Every law, every regulation, every policy, every individual who's supposed to be at that event. they're going to make sure all of that's in place.

The second group are called Omega Soldiers, and they're in sleeping or kind of inactive, deactivated, until the moment that they're triggered and called up to service. And, you know, their job then is to be military boots, carrying those demonic generals through those spiritual gates when they open. Now what's interesting is that for some of you, you may have attended Patriot conferences. When I say what I'm going to say, I want you to know that not everybody at those conferences is bad. Not everybody is evil.

But there are some who are connected to these projects or programs through the U.S. military. and they are preparing people through those conferences. Some of the things that I heard, you know, were individuals who were saying, okay, I'm going to say a phrase. I want you to repeat back. Who's a patriot? I'm a patriot.

You know, and then I'll say it again. Who's a patriot? And you're going to say, I am. They just activated the I am program. They're doing it with thousands and thousands of people activating these soldiers getting them ready. People have been trained maybe when they're a kid and they have no idea that they're being activated so that when the trigger codes go out, they automatically will switch on and

start fulfilling their job in the program. You know, part of my job as a, you know, Queen Mother of Darkness was to understand how the programs worked and operated. So I wasn't programmed, but I was privy. I experienced, I watched, I observed how these programs were set up and how they worked, how they operated. Some parts, you know, like I talked about the looking glass and the Star Wars Now, I directly participated in. So I understand how they work. it's it's you know although some of it sounds scary you know i know people's first thoughts are how do i make

sure i'm not one of those who's programmed to go off and do things i don't want to do the good news is that jesus is the decode you know literally as we say lord you know there may be things out of my childhood that i don't remember there may be things that are blocked or hidden from me but i'm just surrendering my life right now to you, to your rule, to your authority. And I know that you will keep me, that you will protect me, that, you know, you say goodness and mercy should follow me all the days of my life. And I'm asking you, Lord, if there's any programs, undo them right now. Undo them, Lord. And I'm trusting that, you know, you're hearing me right now that I want to serve you. I don't want to serve the enemy. I don't want to serve an agenda. I just want to serve you, Lord. And the Lord will

honor those requests. He's been bringing quick healing to survivors and to those who have gone through programming. And he knows our hearts. The enemy can't make us do what we don't want to do. And as, you know, that's part of why the Lord has me speaking out is so that, you know, people have the opportunity to make that choice and to undo what the enemy has been striving to work towards. So with that said, that was kind of the basics breakdown of the military in their agenda. So all of my training for that happened from age four and a half to age 10. By the time I was 10, I was fully trained to step into that position if they needed me. Most of the time for the upper level positions, individuals will step into them,

usually around age 35 to 45, somewhere in there. So what happened was, you know, at age 10, the Lord decided to play his hand. and I simply was at a family funeral with all of these family members. And as I turned from the casket to walk towards my car, the Lord very clearly said to me, I have released you from them. And as he spoke those words, it literally was like a wedge just came down from heaven.

And I knew that all of their authority, their power over me was broken. broken. And they felt it too. From that day on, they were not able just to come, you know, take me or make me participate in events. You know, there was some times afterwards where they had to drug me just to have me present at an event. But they weren't able just to come and take me and make me participate anymore. And they knew that the Lord was contending for me from that point on. And the Lord began to, you know, at that time, really walk me through a time of healing and deliverance. I didn't have people that I could turn to. Every chance that I got, I tried to, you know, tell people in the system what had happened to me, especially about my training partner. You know, October of 1984, we were at a Halloween event, my proctor in some of the

some of my other family members, we were taken to a haunted house. And in that haunted house, you know, we were going through at one point, there was a split in the hallways. And so I ended up going with one of my younger female relatives who was older than me, but I met younger, as in way younger than my proctor. She got scared. And, you know, as we're going through this hospital, hallway alone together. And she, her way of dealing with that was to say, Jesse, I know you're scared. Let me carry you.

And I was like, no, no, I'm fine. I'm not scared. And she's like, no, no, let me carry you. So she started to carry me through this hallway. At the end of the hallway, there was a skeleton that was reaching its arm out as people would walk by. So as we tried to squeeze by past that skeleton. in a cage, it reached out and its arm got stuck around my ankle and we couldn't get it off.

So finally we both began to yell for help and the staff came and they couldn't get it off either. So they ended up having to call in maintenance guys to come and take the skeleton apart and try to get it off my foot. Well, when I saw the three men who appeared, I knew that they were not men from me. the system. And so, you know, I was the type that every chance I got to tell about the things that were going on, I would take the opportunity. And I mean, you know, looking at the one guy, I was like, my family is in the occult. My family is Sir Satan. My family kills and eats babies. And he was just like, what the heck is up with this kid? Like, is this part of the Halloween exhibit? it, you know? He was like, what in the world? And as I'm sitting there, you know, my, my female

relative, she's like, Jesse, shut up. Jesse, you're going to get us in trouble. You know, she's trying to get me to be quiet. And all of a sudden, my proctor walks around the corner and we knew, she heard. So that night, you know, my training would go every day, all day. It usually started around six in the morning as, you know, we would get ready and stuff. and then it would continue throughout until about 2 or 3 a.m. So usually I got about three hours of sleep at night. So we had just finished with our night meetings and I was getting my sleep. And next thing I know, my proctor is literally hauling me out of bed and dragging me down the stairs and to the front door.

And as we got out there, you know, I will never forget. I just hear this sound of fire and everything within me sank as I turned and looked and I saw my training partner's house on fire. And I just ran. The fire department was already there. There were people, you know, from our neighborhood that were gathered. And as I ran for the door, the fireman caught me and literally held me up by my arms outstretched. And, you know, I proceeded.

to kick and scream and fight them for hours. They waited until the whole house burned down. And then, you know, finally when it had burnt down, they set me down and I just remember everything in my heart sank because

me and my training partner had been attempted to get out. Prior to that, we had been at a ritual where, you know, in Chicago, where they were trying to get us to participate in our first sacrifice. And with that, you know, there was another boy that, who was a little bit older than me that I was supposed to take vows with, with this sacrifice. And it would be the first time that, you know, I would be participating in killing an infant. They had an infant on the altar.

They had a chalice with blood. What was supposed to happen was that, you know, first the dagger was handed to him and he had to cut his hand and put blood into the chalice. And then they were good, he was going to hand it to me. And I was supposed to do the same thing. And then together we were going to kill the infant. But I just was not going to have any of that. And so he did his. part. He handed me the dagger and I was just so angry, I chucked that dagger straight at my

proctor's face. And as I did that, I swept my hand across the altar and knocked off the chalice and everything that was already on there. And when I did that, I mean, literally it was like a pin dropped. and the first person to move was the high priest, and he came and he slung me over his shoulders like a sack of potatoes. He hauled me out into the graveyard of the church. They had an empty grave there, and he threw me down in that, and it wasn't just an empty grave underneath that church. They have a catacomb. So literally he threw me down into that catacomb through that grave, covered the top, and walked off. And I didn't know if I was going to die.

I didn't know if I was going to live. It was pitch dark. I didn't know my way through the catacombs. So I kind of just, you know, huddled up close to the side and sat there for a few minutes. And then all of a sudden I see somebody walking towards me who the best way to describe it is look like a man on fire. and as he got closer, I realized it was the Lord. And he picked me up, and literally he carried me through those catacombs. He carried me to a small little door and knelt down and he said, ask of me what you will.

And I knew who it was. I knew it was Jesus. And I said, Lord, I want them all to come out. So that was the promise that the Lord gave me before he let me out that door. As he opened the door, I ended right back up in that sanctuary where we had been sacrificing and I came in behind everybody, all the adults who were there. They were fighting and yelling and screaming about the whole incident because their ritual had been ruined and it meant that somebody was going to get punished.

And as they're yelling and screaming, finally they realized that I'm standing there behind them. And the high priest came up to me and he said, how did you get here? And I said, I pointed right where the door had been. And I said, the Lord let me out the door. And he slapped me in the face and he said, there isn't a door. How did you get here? And I said, the Lord let me out the door. and, you know, he was trying to figure out how did I navigate those catacombs.

Finally, he was so mad that he made my proctor take me home. The next day after that event, me and my training partner were walking through the hallways of the church to get to our class for, this was a cultic class training. So we had to go meet with Carcock for our defense training. and as we were on our way there, he literally paused in the hallway and grabbed my wrist really hard. You know, I had already been training with him

so I knew if he stopped, you know, I medically stopped and was looking around like, okay, what's going on? What is he sensing? But instead of, you know, an attack coming at us, all of a sudden he turned, which he's never supposed to do, and he literally, you know,

know, shoved me against the wall, pinned me to the wall. And he got really close and he said, promise me. He said, promise me if you get out, you'll get me out too. So that was the moment that he and I started to make plans to get out. Now, it wasn't until years later, you know, that I found out the fullness of this story of what really happened. But, you know, so in my mind, growing up what I believed happened was that you know we were planning to get out next thing I know I'm telling you know this person these maintenance guys at the haunted house what our families into that night you know they set the system sets his house on fire and he and his Michael Carcock who is you know his grandfather and his little brother were in that house

we heard them in there. I saw him upstairs banging on the window saying, I can't get out, I can't get out. We were there until that fire died down and we knew there was no escape, right? So the biggest thing that happened in that moment was that spiritual connection that he and I had had where we could communicate the spirit world. That immediately stopped. And so for me, you know, everything within me believed he had died.

Now, there was a couple things that had happened in between there that made me question, you know, if he had really died or not. But, you know, it just, I had kind of let it pass. But in my anger, I was so angry with God that night that, you know, it wasn't the type of anger where I was saying, Lord, I won't serve you or Lord, I don't want to know you anymore. But it was just the type of anger where Lord, this one hurts. And I want you to forever remember that I'm angry about it. And so I prayed a prayer that I knew the Lord could not answer. And I said, Lord, raise him from the dead, which the Lord did not do.

Right? So 34 years later, I'm living in a community, I'm working as a chaplain. And one day, you know, I was doing working both at hospitals, but I also did some work with one of the local shelters with the veterans and the homeless people who would come in. And as, you know, I went through my chaplain work, we began to have an influx of sateness in our community who were getting involved in things. I began to run into teachers or other people who would tell me this stories. And they'd be like, I have this little girl in my class who's practicing witchcraft. Like, what do I do? You know, what am I supposed to do?

And so the Lord told me to write a presentation. And he said, I want you to begin to put your story onto paper and begin to tell them about your experience as a child, you know, in witchcraft and how can they be aware of what signs can they look for? How can they begin to talk with these kids that they're running into? So I did that. And the moment I finished that presentation, the Lord literally brought over 350 people to me to give it to. It included senators, it included principals, teachers, social workers, counselors.

So I begin to really start to share in the community about, you know, how do we deal with this when we've got children that are doing witchcraft in our classrooms or in our kids. community, you know, and just teaching them a little bit more about it. I didn't go anywhere near and depth as I have now, but, you know, it was just very basic. So after that, I did that for about a year. And at the time, you know, I was very aware of who the local groups were and they were nicely providing all their information about their activities that were coming up on their websites. But the second year, those occultic groups made it where you had to buy a membership to access the website. Well, when I first found that out, you know, I was the type of person where it's like, no big deal, I'll pay the 10 bucks, I'll get the membership.

But the Lord kept stopping me and he was like, he kept reminding me of one, little old woman in my church who was 95 years old and the Lord kept saying, if you get that membership, Mary is going to be unhappy. And I was like, Mary doesn't even know all this work that I do. You know, like what's the big deal, Lord? And but he kept bringing her up. So finally he said, okay, Lord, if you don't want me to get the membership, what do you want me to do? and the Lord gave me an even more difficult task. He said, I want you to pray for those who are heading up those programs in different areas that are involved in the occult by name. And it was like, okay, but Lord, I can't even get access to their website now.

Like, I don't know their names. How am I going to get their names or know who's running what, right? And really, the Lord was growing my faith. He wanted me to believe that nothing was impossible. And I finally, I surrendered, and within a week and a half, not only did I have a picture of each person's face, but I had their name as well. And I began to intercede for them every night. Now, one of the individuals in that group, the Lord told me that I needed to pray for him and intercede for him every time he was talking. He did a lot of public speaking and was out in the community a lot.

So I began to intercede for him every time he was speaking. And sometimes it was six to eight hours a day. But as I did for that next year, interceded for him. You know, I started to have these very interesting prayer times, you know, where I began to have very strong visions. And it was in one of the. those visions where, you know, literally I see him speaking. I'm praying for him as he's speaking. And all of a sudden, the Lord says to me, put your hands on his chest. And I was like, okay.

You know, so in faith, I just put my hands out and, you know, was envisioning. I was putting him on his chest. And all of a sudden I feel these hands grab my hands back. And next thing I know, I see this guy's face as though he's standing right there with me looking at me. And he says to me, what the hell do you think you're doing? And I was like, Lord, my vision is talking to me. I'm not sure what to do about this, Lord. And as I, you know, continued, the Lord said, pray, pray for him to come out, for his salvation. So I began to pray and pray. Now, as that prayer continued, there was a moment where, you know, I can't describe it, but all of a sudden the Lord just said to me,

did you think I could not do it? And I was like, do what? And the Lord was like, did you think I could not raise him from the dead? And I was like, what? And the Lord said, here he is. This is your training partner. and I was like, no. And I was like, Lord, you're going to have to confirm it to me.

And the Lord was so adamant in that, you know, he said to me, he said, he saw me let you out that door during that ritual. That was one of the confirmations. He gave two others. Later, I found out that not even Michael Carcock was dead, that they had moved him. So the whole death by fire thing, literally the system had separated me and my training partner. And he was still doing his job, but they had told him that I had rejected him.

And, you know, so anyway, then the Lord told me to reach out to him. And so I did. and I began to do that. So what was interesting in all that was that, you know, it really just shows the power of God. And he did all of that to prepare me for the next stage that he was about to release in my life. Shortly after that revelation and my reaching out to my training partner,

the Lord then, you know, I was riding on the bus to go pick up homeless people for the shelter that night to come to the processing classes that I led. And as I'm riding in the bus, the Lord says to me, you will be giving your testimony. And I knew it wasn't the watered down hidden version I had learned to give to the churches all those years. Like I knew he meant I would be giving my testimony in full. And I said, Lord, you know the system has. has sworn that if I tell, they will kill my children in front of my face.

And I said, Lord, you know, I want to do your will, but I'm just asking, you know, I'm asking for that protection for myself and my children as I go forward. I'm just begging and pleading for that. And after I got done begging and pleading, the Lord immediately responded, and he said no. he said you will do it right in front of their faces. And I knew in that moment that I had to choose, I had to count the cost. You know, was I willing no matter what happened, even if all of my children were to be taken or murdered or horrifically killed,

you know, for one child to save one child, was I willing to tell my story and to do whatever, the Lord was calling me to do. And, you know, I chose, yes, Lord, for one child to not have to go through what I went through, I will give my story. Now, it did come at that price. A year ago, I lost one of my sons, my 17-year-old son, Josiah in a car accident. The same day that it was the morning that I turned in an affidavit, it was of the same area

where he was currently residing. And it was on one of the roads named in that affidavit. I do not believe it was an accident. There were some other things that happened just prior to that, where I believe it was, you know, the system taking his life. You know, and that was part of the cost for going forward. But, you know, the Lord, after that, he opened the doors. He opened the doors for me to begin to tell my story online.

I started anonymously as Jane, as you had heard on Dan Duval. But shortly after that, the Lord caused some things to happen where, you know, I was on Good Dog Show and David Zublich. And, you know, I tried to remain anonymous. And the Lord just said, no, put your name out there, let your face be seen. And that's when I began to speak, you know, publicly on several different platforms weekly. So besides Good Dog and Zublik, I spoke on red on radio. And then still I'm on the reveal report, Aquarius Rising, Africa. I did Carmen Studer.

I did David Nino Rodriguez, are some that I'm on regularly. and then I also have the shows that I do weekly on Kingdom Living. So as I begin to do those shows, you know, and turn in my testimony federally, there came the point where they requested that I turn it in an affidavit form. And so last year is when those affidavits went from being with the U.S. military to being in the courts. And they were sealed in the courts. and then, you know, because we're not getting due process in there, I am now pursuing to be heard before Congress to share my testimony there and receive my due process to share my testimony in the courts.

So, yeah. Wow. I think that's the shortest I have ever given my story. That's pretty good. Well, just, wow. All right. So let me just bounce off of what you just said. So you're pursuing to sit down in front of Congress and tell your story. Correct. Have you gotten confirmation from God that this is going to happen? Or is it something that you're pursuing and you feel like there's good odds that you'll have that opportunity?

I believe there's good odds that I'll have that opportunity, but we'll see what happens. Either that or they will deny my justice and my rights, and then we'll see what happens. Yeah, I have a very hard time imagining seeing you do it. And I want to, obviously, I mean, I think it would be fantastic for you and the world to really have. But man, like, I think it, Because that's why I phrased it. It's a big door that has to be open because it has been closed for so many years. You know, let's be truthful.

The government does not want to hear about satanic ritual. They don't want to hear about the crimes that have been committed through the government or the military to our children. I'm praying that there are a few good men and women there. I'm praying that the weaponization committee that they want to hear. You know, this is the exact stuff that they were created to fight and go against. So I'm hoping that, you know, these are going to be men and women of integrity who will have, you know, myself as well as other survivors on to hear our stories and who will act according to, you know, their abilities to procure justice for us. Yeah. And I think that, I think if it happens, it's just going to be,

it's going to be an act of God. I don't know how it's to describe it, you know. And I think it would be, um, hopefully very eye-opening for millions of people. Uh, right. And also half my family would no longer think I'm crazy.

So that'd be good too. Right. You're like, yes, let's make it happen. So people know I'm not crazy. I'm not just making this stuff up. It really does happen,

guys. Um, but, uh, You said so much. And I'm going to start actually off here with a question that I kind of just want to clarification. The spiritual gates is another way of saying that would be portals?

Yeah, portals would be another word for them. Okay. And the spiritual gates, you can instantaneously go from one place to another. So like you said, Chicago to Germany, which is. how you didn't say today, but I think I remember this from years ago. You would go from Chicago to Germany for training, right? And then come back and be like a night trip. Yeah.

Right. Yep. It would happen during times I was supposed to be at school. So literally during the school day and then I'd be home for dinner with my family that night. Yeah. Speaking of your family, for clarification with that too, mom and dad, very aware of what's going on, right? They are now. Okay.

Yeah, they were not when I was a child. They were not actively part of the system. My dad was never part of the system, you know, and they had no clue as to what was going on. You know, usually my proctor, when we all sat down for dinner every night, she would put drugs in there. And, you know, they would think they were up to like eight or nine, but really, you know, they were in bed by six every night. And, you know, so that's how she kind of controlled things. And then, but now, yes, my family is, is aware. You know, there are family members that are not happy that I've come forward.

But from my immediate family, they are all standing with me. Gotcha. And I imagine you coming forward, are they still the bad side of the family or the people that you have fled? if that's even the right word fleeing. I'm not so sure you're fleeing anything right now. But are they in communication now in certain ways? I mean, you mentioned how you said that if you come forward, they would kill your family.

And you said in a phrase in a way where it was like they threatened you with this. So is there like constant communication? Not constant, but yes. When they want to communicate, they do. Okay. And is that a very direct way or is it more like here's an unsigned letter? Oh, no. You know, lots of different forms of ways that they communicate. So, you know, they have access to any way you could think of, you know, including online with emails. But, you know, there'll be times that the world governing council will email me things and, you know, expect a response.

So however they want to access me, they do. Okay. As far as just to keep it, United States, government leaders in the United States, have you been in communication? You don't have to name names if you don't want it, but have you been in communication with anybody that is there on your behalf trying to get this to happen for you as far as Congress goes? I'll say indirectly, but yes, there are people who are working on my behalf who have been going forward with me. both through the courts as well as trying to help get me into before Congress. That's good. Cool. Okay. You there's so there's some stuff you said that I actually timing's everything and because I haven't come out with I'm starting a new podcast based off a

story that I received probably almost two years ago. And some of the things you said in here, I want to ask you about it, but I think I'm going to wait until we're done recording just because I can't go into the details publicly yet. But let me ask you this. You mentioned about bail. Is there, is there, I think you said the nine brothers, is that what you said? Or nine. Well, nine generals.

Nine generals, nine generals. And bail being one of them. Is there anybody, is there any, whatever you want to call them, demons, entities, do they have an active role where they interact with people on a regular basis? Yes, the majority of them are highly involved, both in our government and our U.S. military. Okay. And so when they're involved, I imagine it's probably multiple ways to go about it, but is there a time where they're manifesting like right before you?

Yes. Okay. Yeah, they also do have human hosts. So they will have their, you know, be in their host body sometimes. But other times, yes, they do manifest right in front of us. Okay. And I figured that actually. I just, I try to ask questions in the best way I can to get the point across

without actually saying what I think, you know. It's like, you let her into that answer. I'm not trying to. But, all right, so you mentioned about 2024. Now, I think most Christians, when they hear you say that, would say, so that's when Christ is returning. Is that how you perceive the no dates going beyond 2024, or do you perceive it being something else?

There's a lot that has to happen in the book of revelations, you know, before. that time. So I would say, yes, I believe that we are in the last days, but I would still put it out a little bit because there's a lot that we still have to see happen before that end event where everybody's gathered at Armageddon. Okay. I know there's, I mean, everywhere I turn, it seems like there's a lot of people now looking to the sky in a sense where it's just like any time now. And I think there's a certain level of desperation in it as well, where the world is going in a certain direction where people are like,

Lord, I'm good whenever you're good. Like, let's just let's get this party started. So on that note, do you feel like the, if you feel like we're living in the end times, do you feel like the Antichrist has already been born? I would claim that yes, he has. Okay. Do you have any information on that at all or no?

I do, but that's my biggest question that I cannot. Oh, really? I didn't even know. There's shows about it. I encourage people. You can go to kingdom living with jesse.com. That's actually one of the first shows we did was about the Antichrist. And so in there, I give all the details that I can to help you navigate that question.

Gotcha. Perfect. Now, Elon Musk, is he really a genius? Or is this something that, like, it's with what he's been involved in, he's just been privy to information that he uses to his advantage? I think there's a mix of both, you know? So I think it's, you know, some of its older things that come out of, you know, more Nazi era. with Joseph Mangala or others in the different projects and experiments they were doing. He also had family members that were direct Nazis. So, you know, I think all of that plays a role in that. But with that said, you know, there were things where he, I think, like every person, you know, he's got his own brilliance, things he's good at, skills that skill sets he has that nobody else has. So yeah. You know, he always struck me as something, something different about that guy.

There's no charisma in his body. He's just very, I'm like, there's something off about you, sir. It's posture. You know, everybody's trained in that system to have posture where, you know, you just, you perfectly perform the things that you're taught to perform and very guarded, very, I guess I just describe it as posture. That's the best way to do it. So. Do you believe that he's still active in that world, or do you think that he's kind of... I have great news on that. I have been told he is not that he has come out. And last month, Timothy Charles Homesteth, who's the journalist, who has permissions to put out my affidavits and other information on my behalf. he put up a series called What Did Elon Know or What Does Elon Know? And, you know, we've been told that Elon has seen my affidavits, that he's seen my testimony

about the things I claimed happened happened to him as a child through Satanic ritual. I've been told that he's confirmed those things and I believe he's been given opportunity to testify of the satanic ritual he experienced as a child. And I pray that when my information comes forward and comes fully out, that his will is well as well. So we really need to pray for him. He is working with us and we'll see where that goes. That's incredible.

That's incredible. I mean, just to think about, I mean, obviously, we're doing. taught with this whole thing has been circled around god doing miraculous things um absolutely can you like can you imagine just and not you per se but the audience i mean you obviously this is your life um but imagine Elon going 180 off script and confirming what you are claiming and giving his side of the story he's got almost what 200 million followers on his own platform of Twitter. I mean, like, that's something that would be earth-shaking. Of course, they're going to say he's crazy. And of course, they're going to try to, you know, sweep it under

the carpet as he's lost. They'll give him some real bad treatment for sure. But it would be just, it would be total earth-shattering. There'd be so many people that would positively benefit from that and just be eye-open because they spent years hearing people like me say things. And like, these guys are just crazy. And then all of a sudden, Elon's like, nope, not crazy at all. We have to remember, it's exactly what the Lord says in scripture. And hey, guy, too, he says, get ready. I'm about to shake the heavens and the earth. He's going to do things that we can't even imagine or think of, you know, and we're watching it happen. Yeah. And we really are. And it's been, it's been a wild, it's been a wild journey the last, I'd say, six, seven years of my life, just

having this podcast and looking into these different things. It's been absolutely astonishing to see how things kind of unfolding right before my eyes. And oddly, when I was sitting here listening to you talk, I had a real, and in the moment while you were talking, I acknowledged it to myself. I had a real sense of peace as you were speaking about certain topics. I mean, when you were talking about the infants and stuff, that just made me really uncomfortable. but that's just human. But there was a, there was a, almost like a spiritual sense of peace where I just, I was hearing you say things, I was just like, he's in control.

You know, and I think your story displays that several times throughout. I want to ask you a question about some of this stuff here where you mentioned about the high priestesses, Gloria Vandabelle. And, you know, I've talked about that in my show before. I probably got it from you, actually. but I All right

so I've I've bashed the music industry for a very long time I used to be I was my dad used to do gospel music and singing

grew up in a household where music was everything I got very disenfranchised with music in my mid to late 20s and extremely in my early 30s when I started coming to understand

what was going on is is j z in your opinion as bad as i think he is because i think his wife might be even worse than him yeah they both are he he's a high priest for sure um she is grand high priestess and took gloria van deraubilt's position that's that's what i thought uh i i don't remember when i heard you talk about this stuff before i wasn't sure if you if back then you had said her name being the replacement or if you suggested it and I connected those dots. But my lord, I remember, I remember that Super Bowl halftime show watching that. I was like, holy cow. And the thing that caught me so by surprise is that the next day, nobody thought

anything of it. Like people who don't look into this stuff, they're just like, oh, it was good performance. I'm like, how, how can you say that there's nothing off about that at all? It, like, it made my skin crawl. So I got plenty of questions, but I'm not going to keep dragging this out. I do want to ask you about this though. And this is something that I don't know if you've ever heard of before.

I don't think I've ever brought this up to somebody of your caliber. For years ago, episode 61 of my show, I had a guy on named Zach King. And he says that he at one time was a high wizard.

Have you ever heard of high wizards? Yes. Okay. And here's the thing. I 100% believe Zach's testimony. But over the years, I've had people say that they've never heard of such a thing. And I'm like, I don't know. So I wanted to ask you because you would be somebody who would know.

He says that he would. It depends on your type of where the terminology comes from is the type of magic. So usually if they're going by the term high wizard, Other terms would be megas, magnus, megah. That is going to come out of more of the thalemic magic. You could get some inokian gay ocean magic in there. The type that my family was predominantly in was the Salamanic magic, and then some of the Enochian and then high forms of blood magic with necromancy.

So, but it just depends on usually the title would come out of the form of magic that you're studying. Gotcha. So I did an interview recently not long ago. It probably aired about a month or so ago from now. And it was a guy named James who, is in the movie industry. He moved from Atlanta to L.A. And a long story, I'm just going to get to it here. He wound up meeting a guy who took him to a party in the desert in Joshua Tree. And while he was there, he spent over 24 hours there. At nighttime, he said things got wild. And he said that, you know,

there was like a big rave scene. There's music playing, the twin DJs. And he said he was this tent and people were like transforming into like demonic entities and and and vampires and crazy stuff and he thought he was drugged at first he goes out of the tent and has some interactions but when he turned around he sees this tent go up into the air and he said a green portal opened up underneath it and he said there are people like up in the air and he was freaked out there's and it seemed like he was here but not necessarily here they seemed like he was almost like in a dimensional shift where, and I've been calling it the bridge, because it doesn't seem like he was in another realm, but it didn't seem like he was in this realm either.

It was like, I almost see he was in the middle. And I don't know how else to describe it, but that's how I perceive it. In his story, though, he said that there was a guy walking around in a mad hatter hat. And he's like, it just kind of passed over it. And one of my listeners had said that, you know, in episode 61, Zach King, said that he looked, the way he would dress when he was a high wizard was what was depicted in the one pink music video called something pill, I think. But in the video, you see this guy in like a tall top hat and dressed almost like an old-timey clothing and he's like casting spells over pink while she's singing. And he said, that's a high wizard. And so what I did was

I took a screenshot of that and sent it to James and I said, did the guy look like this? And the Mad Hatter hat or hat and he said during the day he didn't have nearly as much face paint on but at night that's exactly what it looked like and I was like holy crap so no wonder why you had a portal opening up and a tent flying in the air like you had a high wizard there man you know right well you could get different positions with that with that style of closing because you'll also get that grand high priest will wear that um you also have the regent lords who are vampire regent lords will wear that um so it could be Either those three, you could have the grand high wizards wear that as well. Wow.

Okay. See, I didn't know any of that. Yeah. But it really struck me. So here's one thing. You and I were talking earlier, and I had told you about the Germany idea I had. And the way you kind of struck that, I was like, she's probably thinking I'm crazy for even thinking about doing something like that.

But me and my friend, you know, we were talking and his wife, his family, her family, in Germany and we thought about going over there and trying to find the castle. But I say that because I tend to do things that sometimes are not very rational. And my wife has come to accept parts of me when it comes to this stuff. I'm almost 100% sure I know that I know the location of where this happened at. and I'm almost 100% sure I know when they're going to do it again, would you, if I told you I was going to go out there and try to observe from a distance, is that a bad idea or is that like okay as long as you don't interact with them?

We could talk off air about that. Okay, perfect. In fact, on that note, we're going to end the show. But, Jesse, before we end the show, though, tell people again where they can find you about your event, the websites, the books, anything you'd like. Yeah, definitely. All of my information books, all of that courses you can find on my website, kingdom living with jesse.com.

The other website is illuminate the darkness.com. And I encourage you to check it out. And the event tickets are only on sale for a couple more weeks. We would like a packed house. So if you can come, I'd love to meet you. Let me know you saw me here on Tony Merkel's show. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. If you did enjoy, please share the show with your friends.

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