The Confessionals - RELOADED | 597: Fort Polk Dogman
Episode Date: September 28, 2026In Episode 597: Fort Polk Dogman, Gabriel shares his encounter with a mysterious creature while he was in the military in 2010. The encounter took place during a training mission in a remote area kno...wn as "The Box" inside Fort Polk, Louisiana. Gabriel and his sergeant were tasked with harassing a fake military base during the night, but Gabriel was left alone after his sergeant went back to retrieve a forgotten radio. As he waited alone in the woods, he described feeling a sudden eerie silence in the natural sounds, and he noticed strange occurrences, including a pulsating red light and a large, black shape behind a bush. As his fear intensified, he stood up with his machine gun, intending to fend off what he initially thought might be a bear. However, when he attempted to fire the weapon, a terrifying and powerful roar froze him in his tracks. The creature stood up on two legs and was much taller than him, with yellow, glowing eyes that felt malevolent and ancient. Gabriel felt an intense sense of evil emanating from the creature, leading him to believe it was not an ordinary animal but something far more sinister and supernatural. For years, he had believed it was a demon, and it was only later, in 2021, that he learned about the term "Dogman" as he attempted to make sense of his experience.If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890📕 Pre-order Tony's Book: https://a.co/d/0bJS3SaV📰 Subscribe to Our Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/newsletterBecome a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyIVERMECTIN: twc.health/tonyVENICE AI: https://venice.ai/theconfessionalsRUMBLE WALLET: https://rumblewallet.onelink.me/bJsX/ConfessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media6726 Morganton RdP.O. Box #08Greenback, TN 37742SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jyorkofficialOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - GreyYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify
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This was all circulating
around the base that a giant had been killed but no one was supposed to talk about it.
I saw three long, bony fingers, reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then
disappear.
When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me.
He comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
And he starts running and firing at this giant.
With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand, and he's running really fast.
And spears, Dan, holds him up like this.
Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face.
They basically decapitated.
Got prices, when he got about 15 yards away from me, I raised that 12 gauge and I blow this head off.
I feel something pulling at my leg, and I look over, and there are two small.
Really, I'm getting pulled off the bed.
I reached my hand into this bush and I touched air.
Couldn't breathe and I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster.
Okay, I reload.
Yep.
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Now, today we have Gabriel coming on the show,
and Gabriel actually connected with me through WhatsApp
because he's in Peru.
So this is the first time I ever did an interview on WhatsApp.
I think it turned out pretty good, given the circumstances.
He's in Peru, but he served in the United States military,
and while he was stationed at Fort Polk in Louisiana,
he had a dogman encounter one night while training.
He comes on to talk about that today,
but it's very interesting how this dogman creature is popping up on military bases.
We actually did an episode 475.
No, I believe it was 575,
where we had a soldier come on the show and talk about his experience on Fort Campbell
and how he wasn't the only one that went through this.
Many soldiers on Fort Campbell have interacted with dogmen
at a point that they call it out over the radio.
Well, it turns out Fort Polk might be a similar situation because Gabriel comes on today to talk about his situation while training one night and encountering the dog man.
So let's get to Gabriel and his experience right now.
All right, today we got Gabriel on the show.
Gabriel, how are you doing, man?
Hey, pretty good, brother.
Kind of cold over here, but pretty chill.
Hey, man.
It's cold everywhere right now for us.
I'm in Tennessee, and it's supposed to, you know, the further south you go, the warmer it is.
But the last few days, we've been getting sub-30-degree weather.
So it's been a chilly for me, too.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, kind of for the potential weather.
So, okay.
Right.
So, listen, you are in Peru right now, and you have had a pretty interesting encounter when it comes to Dogman.
You had it while you were in the military here, stateside.
you have dual citizenship.
Where did this encounter happen
and what year did it happen in?
It happened in 2010.
I was a brand new private out of four knocks.
My MOS was 19 Delta, was a Cubs scout.
Then I went to four Bennings to become a voter trooper.
So it was a brand new private.
It was my first year in the military.
And it happened in July 2010.
I remember that because it happened a couple of weeks after, you know, the whole 4 July celebrations that we had.
So I do remember exactly the month.
Plus, it was pretty freaking hot.
Louisiana, I guess, pretty freaking hot.
I live in South Florida.
But the only difference is in Louisiana.
I used to run them by woods and mosquitoes and snakes.
and whole, which is shit.
Yeah, it's a whole different thing.
But I don't remember.
It happened in July 2010.
Wow.
Okay.
So let's do this.
Let's move into the encounter.
What you were doing, if you guys were doing running drills or you were on leave,
just walk us into this experience that you had with this creature.
Well, first of all, I want to say that for 11 years,
I thought it was a demon
because I never
ever heard the termed dogmae until
2021.
This didn't happen
while doing missions
inside, for example, inside
Fort Polk, there's a massive
area that we call the box. Now,
just to, you know,
disclaimer, what I'm out to say is not
belating any sort of Department of Defense.
you know,
policies because you can literally Google it
and you're going to find it.
But yeah,
inside for a pole,
there is this massive area that we call the box.
This is for training purposes.
There is like for rotations,
we jump at our airplanes,
there's firefighters.
It's a pretty active area.
And that's where the whole encounter happened.
And in this specific night,
my platoon had a task and purpose to go and harass specifically because
inside the box there is fake civilian towns there is fake military bases but when there is
some sort of rotation you know Americans we call it Americans who blue force they go in
and they you know take over these military bases and also there's civilians that we hire
to play as, you know, Afghan civilians, because at a time, the Afghani rotation was an all-time
high.
So for this specific mission, the main idea was to harass this fake military base that was located northeast, the box.
And the idea was to mess up with their sleep because the next day,
supposed to be a massive operation in which we're supposed to go and overrun the Bay Area
and pretty much try to kill everybody inside, you know, for training purposes.
For example, the task and purpose from Appatoon was to go do that, harass this military base
throughout the night, one in the morning, three in the morning, five in the morning,
pretty much just
messed up with their sleep.
And I wasn't the first team.
I was attached to a sergeant.
At the time, I was a PFC,
was a private first class,
and I got a sergeant who was an E5.
And the main idea
was to approach the base
from the south. We used to
drive this beat-up
trucks.
And the main idea
was to go from the south,
park the vehicle in the very concealed area,
and then we dismount and then we walk.
At the time, my sergeant was carrying an in for a carbine.
And I was carrying a 240-brow machine gun.
And if you are brand new in the military,
it's a pretty heavy weapon.
Eventually, you get used to it,
But as a brand new private, I was literally just hitting it.
Plus, I was carrying like between 100 and 150 rounds or 762 rounds.
Now, one of the things that I want to make it clear is that inside the box,
we never use lab ammunition.
We use blanks for training purposes, plus, you know, for safety issues.
But they're still heavy.
they're still heavy
so
I do remember
we parted the vehicle
we dismount
we started walking
and the area
was not
was not a pretty
beautiful
area to walk through
there was a lot of
bushes and holes
and I remember
I twisted my ankle
like three or four times
a machine I was getting
stuck in every brush
and bush and branch
you can find.
It was not a pleasant, you know,
a situation.
And I think it was within maybe 15 minutes into the mission,
that's when my sergeant stopped and say,
fuck, I forgot my radio.
And if you forgot your radio,
you lose contact with your chain of command.
Is this worse or the same as, you know,
forgetting your weapon system?
So he was freaking out that we have to go back and get the radio.
But like I said, my ankles were hurting.
I was just like, nope, I ended up doing that.
So my main idea was to say, Sergeant, I can wait for you here and you can, you know, go get the radio.
And he kind of like agree with me in a sense like, yeah, you were tripping all over the plate,
you were making a whole bunch of noise, yada, yada, just wait for me here.
here, just lay in the
prong position
and I'll be back.
Now, when
he say lay in the
proposition, I want you to
understand an analog clock.
So you have the 12 o'clock,
you have the 6 o'clock.
So 12 o'clock is in front of me.
6 o'clock is behind me.
My 9 o'clock is to my left,
my 2 o'clock is to my right.
that's important because
all the events that happen during the encounter
I related to the sort of vacation
and sort of the sort of locations that I was able to pinpoint
where things were coming from.
So anyway, I remember I did like 360-degree area,
you know, a spot to find a spot where I can lay down.
And one of the main things for me was to hopefully not to lay on top of, you know, a fire on the heel
because they're pretty freaking nasty.
They can literally mess you up their whole freaking day.
So luckily, my final spot, I wasn't able to sway.
But like I say, it was around 1.30 in the morning.
As insurgents, we were not able to have night vision goals.
I don't remember what kind of moon we had,
but there was some basic illumination coming from the sky.
We have the canopy of the trees,
so it was pretty goddamn dark.
I gotta be honest,
I wasn't able to see anything,
but when you walk in the middle of the woods by yourself,
in the middle of the night,
your eyes get adjusted to the darkness.
But I do remember there was some sort of light coming from the sky,
so I don't remember what kind of moon we had.
But anyway,
I lay in the prone position
and eventually I could hear my shard and walking away
until at one point I wasn't here
I wasn't able to hear no more
and I'm a city guy
and being in the middle
in the woods by myself
in the middle of nowhere
it was one of the creepiest
Elaine's I ever had
and
I got to pull something clear
you know at the time was a full-blown atheist
I didn't believe in anything
so if you want to talk about religion
I will be the type of person
that will literally mock you
if you want to talk about paranormal things
or ghosts or everything
I will be the type of person that will debunk at
or keep making fun of it
so in a way
I kept saying in my head
you know hey
relax there's nothing going
just chill, but I don't remember being in the middle of the woods by myself.
It was one of the creepiest moments they ever had.
Now that this is when everything started happening.
As a city guy, I was not able to understand what was going on,
but it's like you flip a switch.
And all the crickets and all the frogs and cicadas and everything that is all over the woods,
went absolutely quiet.
And I was already freaking out
by being in the middle of it was for myself.
So now my level of fear
went up to and fall.
Like, what the hell is going on?
Because it was literally, you just flip a switch.
It was nothing gradual.
It was like, fuck.
But like I say, I was still atheists.
I was still trying to, you know,
rationalize it maybe as the Americans.
It was the blue force.
We were there somewhere in the wood line.
Look at them.
But I kept looking at the whole area.
I wasn't able to see anything.
I wasn't able to hear anything at all.
And we were, I think, almost like over two days,
straightforward with barely any sleep.
And the creepy thing is like when you're asleep,
and you're in the woods,
your eyes play tricks on you.
I do remember seeing shadows,
you know, left and right,
you know, foot steps.
But it's just your brain,
you know, messing with your head.
But still, I was not able to see,
actually what I was expecting to see
a platoon of soldiers
coming from that area
that were supposed to go and attack.
And I was really, like,
my inside level kept going out,
up and up and up.
And now this is when the other weird thing happened.
I don't know if it's related to my experience,
but I want to say it because it happened within, you know, the timeline.
To my 10 o'clock, almost like 100 yards away,
which is kind of like 300 feet away.
I noticed a red light.
I wasn't able to see the actual source.
but it was very low to the ground
and it was pulsating.
Now, in the military
we have flashlights,
we had headlamps,
and most of the systems
have this type of settings.
You had the low beam,
you had the high beam,
you had the stroke.
But this thing was pulsating.
When I was unable to notice it
in the corner of my eyes,
it was very dim,
They got very bright.
They got pinned again, got really bright, and it just disappeared.
But again, I was trying to explain that away.
Maybe it's just, you know, maybe special forces guys, making a mistake, you know, turning a flashlight on something.
But I wasn't able to hear anything or see anything.
And that's when I hear something.
to my 7 o'clock.
And when I kind of turn,
I noticed this little bush
than I noticed it before,
but there was something very black
that was behind it and it was
protruding from the right side of it.
It was pitch black.
And it looked like a boulder.
Something that, I don't know,
I don't remember seeing that
because before my sergeant left,
I did a 300,
60 degrees of my environment to see, you know, where I can lay down and find a concealed area or with some covered.
But I didn't remember seeing that boulder.
And I kind of freaked out again.
But again, I was trying to relationalize.
Maybe, you know, the Americans, maybe I don't know, Navy SEALs, snuck up on me or something.
I was a brand new private.
I was not able to understand how tactics work.
so I turned a freaked out
I was laying in a prone position
like I said pointed to my 12 o'clock
now
if you're looking at a picture of the 240
bravo
at the bottom of the barrel
is like a handle
okay so what I did is
I grabbed the handle with my right hand
and got in my right knee
I got the bumpstock with my right hand
and I kind of twist my whole body
towards that direction
because I'm thinking, well, this is the Americans,
I'm not going to go down without a fight.
So when I switch to that direction,
that's when the thing got in four legs.
Now, I don't know if the dog has the capacity
to self-inumina their eyes
or his eyes closed
because while it was racing in four legs,
maybe like one third of the way,
that's when the eyes lit up.
It's like a flashlight.
It was just one of the most insane things you can see.
And it was keep racing.
It was racing, racing, raising, raising up until we were almost
too high to eye level.
I got the 240 bravo, like I said, on my rainy,
but I was not crunching over it.
I was just putting in the ground
to face what I thought was my enemy.
And at one point, this thing got over this little brush.
And we were almost eye to eye level.
And this thing was literally over
four and a half or five feet tall
when you got in four legs.
And then my brain got in the eye to eye.
to use like this, you know, Windows Vista mode, like I was not able to process anything.
But at one point, I was like, what am I looking at?
It is a bear?
Now, before you go into any military base, you get a lot of briefings about, you know,
we're supposed to get your uniforms, locations, things that matter to you.
And one of the briefings in Fort Polk is related to the wildlife that happened in Louisiana because you're in the middle of the woods.
And the main thing is with wildlife.
They talk about, you know, brown reclusive, a pretty nasty spider, a couple of snakes, wildhawks.
But they also talk about black bears.
Black bears are not observed, like too often inside the box because it's a pretty loud area.
And animals usually just stay away from that sort of trauma.
But I know for a fact that there is black bears, Louisiana.
So at one point I was looking at this thing.
And my brain was trying to think, if this is a black bear?
Because I never seen a black bear face-to-face, especially at night.
And also, I never seen those like yellow amber eyes that were like, once you see those eyes, you never forget about it, brother.
You never forget about those eyes.
And the main thing is you can able to see the pupils.
It's like, I don't know, like, they have some sort of power source behind the eyes.
I don't want to say, you know, power source, but that's what it felt.
because the pupils were really noticeable.
And when I was looking at that,
what I thought was a bear,
I was like, I'm freaking out at one point.
And I do remember one guy has some sort of encounter
with a bear, I think it was in Mississippi.
And he said, if you encounter mostly black bear,
try to get yourself bigger
and louder,
and hopefully this animal
would just burn away.
Unless it's hungry
or is a mob
with cops.
In that kind of case,
your litter is crude.
But I do remember that.
That this guy was saying, you know,
try to make yourself
bigger and louder. And like I said,
I have a machine gun,
a 240 brown machine. And you can Google up.
It's a massive weapon.
but it's filled with blanks.
And the only thing that in my pocket was a four-inch blade.
So now going back to what a lot of people repeat in the military is the fight-of-flight type of situations.
I knew for a fact that when I was that it went up to flight,
that I was not able to go outrun a bird.
so my only
you know
option was to hopefully
you know
get into feet
put it to 40 bravo
kind of to my right side
kind of ramble style
and just a blast
in the whole area
because it's a pretty loud
weapon
we're talking about a 7662 caliber
and it's a full
you know
full level of machine
you know
um
so that's what I thought
I want to stand up, get in two feet,
pull the 240 brow to my right side,
I can allow our racial stager,
almost fell.
We'll start blasts in the whole area
in the hopes that this animal would just go away.
But that's not why it happened.
When I was able to stand up,
I got the two foot of bravo to my right side.
I do remember putting my finger
in the right side of the weapon
to switch from safety fire
and start blasting the whole area.
And
that's when I hear
one of the most insane sounds
ever.
Imagine
a lion's roar
multiply by
10. The base of it
drop is so freaking low
that it's going to vibrate every
internal all
organ inside your body.
That's what I felt.
And I just don't know if they do it on purpose to freeze or pray because I was completely frozen.
I don't know who is based on fear, which is the way they do it, but I was completely frozen.
To the point, like I said, my finger was literally just right next to the lever to switch from safe to fire.
But I was frozen.
the only thing I don't remember is feeling my legs
that were getting very, very weak
like I was about to pass that.
I don't remember feeling my heart or anything else.
It's just my legs that I was, you know,
was about to pass that up.
And that's when the thing stood up.
And when it did that, it was very, very smooth.
I didn't hear me poppy.
and sounds, nothing like that.
It was very smooth.
It's like it didn't have any sort of trouble just getting into legs.
It was very slow, very methodical, and it was staring at me, staring at my eyes, staring at my eyes.
And when it was done, standing up in two legs, it was six feet tall.
And this thing was way over eight feet tall.
And at one point
through the illumination
that happened in the moon
that happened in the background,
I was able to see, you know,
from shoulder to shoulder,
the thing was just massive.
And that's when I was able to see
the horns.
Well, at a time, I thought of a horse,
but in other words, the eyes, the ears,
there were very pointed ears.
I was not able to notice a little bit
of the wet nose.
But the main thing is
like, why don't you see those eyes, brother?
You never forget them.
Those yellow, amber eyes.
And there's three main things that I got after seeing those eyes.
First of all, there was something that was very nefarious.
It was not friendly.
It was evil.
That's why for 11 years as though I was a demon.
and the intelligence.
Like, this thing can literally look through you.
And I don't know, it's started you from head to toe.
And the last thing is like, what I was seeing is something that is ancient.
That it's being around for a very, a very long time.
I really don't know what they are.
can tell you one thing
when I didn't
with an animal
and I think
the main thing that got me
was just the evil
that I felt
in those eyes
and that's when I
noticed I
I pee my pants
I start feeling
this war sensation
coming down my legs
and
I don't know if it's
made out of fear
I was just
confused
about the whole situation
but yeah
I pee my pants
And when I pin my pants,
they think they dislike twice,
like that was male.
And then that's when I was able to see the full set of teeth.
Now, when I saw the full set of teeth,
I was expecting to hear some sort of like a growl,
or snarl or something.
But I didn't hear anything.
But throughout these years,
and all the interviews
that was able to hear
from other people
and how nasty
these things can be.
I'm 100% sure
that this sucker was laughing at me.
He smelled that I pay my pants
and he was just loving it.
He smiled
that I pee my pants.
That's when
it looks to its right
and when it did.
That's when I was able to see this now.
This sort of can I snout.
It was very noticeable, but I was able to see it.
It was not like a long face, you know, like all animals have.
It was very slow the way it looked to its right.
And when it did that, I'll see this thing that what lions have,
this big as hair around their neck.
But it was not that big, but you can tell that it was something
that was very hairy around their neck.
And again, my brain was still going in, you know,
Windows Bista, I was not able to understand what the hell is it was done.
Then he looked back at me.
It was very slow.
The problem is like, if you see how slow it turned, how slow it looked back on me,
it was doing the things that also were going to forget.
He looked back at me, he smiled again, and that's when he switched his body towards his left.
Now, when it move his body towards his left.
left. It was not just like, you know, I'm going to look left and then my whole body.
No, it looked like something we do in the military. It looked like he did on a left face.
It's something that you turn and you're in the ball, your feet and your entire body moves towards
one direction, one single time. This thing was behind this bush, so I'm not able to see
from the waist down, but from the upper body
and the head, it was just one single motion that it turned towards
the left.
And when it did that, I was like, please just go.
Please just go away.
And that's when it crouched down a little bit.
And I was expecting to see this thing go up for legs.
and that's when he did the other amazing thing.
You jump in the air, maybe 10, 15 feet up in the air,
and he landed over 20, 25 feet towards the left.
And you can tell this thing was heavy,
but it was very tactical.
So when it landed, it was not like a massive sound
that you can hear like a boom, you know.
It landed, but you can hear that the,
this thing had a mass, but it was able to continue running in one single movement.
It's like, I explained somebody like, you know, when somebody said, you know, I hear the floor running.
That's what it did.
It jumped.
And when it landed, it was just one single movement in continuing running.
And this thing was heavy.
You can tell it was very, very heavy.
because he was moving through the woods
like it was just didn't care about anything.
At one point when it was actually living there,
I was not able to actually see it no more.
I hear like a sound, like a tree falling.
At a time, I didn't know what that was,
but, you know, throughout this time,
hearing different stories and understanding how strong
these things can be,
I'm 99% sure that the thing was
literally just going in that direction.
There was a tree in front of him.
He just pushed it out of the way.
Because it was a tree that was falling.
It was not a small tree.
It was very heavy.
You can hear the whole thing like, boom.
And that's what I think happened.
The thing was just running in that direction was this little tree
and just push it out of the way like it was nothing.
That's when I hear something towards my left.
I'm sorry.
back up a little bit. After that happened, I remember I started looking at the ground in front of me
and they started shaking my head because I wanted to wake myself up. I really thought it was a
sort of dream or something. I was shaking my head. I left the right, but nothing was happening.
But the thing is just everything around me felt kind of weird for like a dream. I wish I was able to
to give you a detail to explain how you felt. But I really loved.
literally felt like I was a sort of dream.
And I remember looking at the ground,
I started shaking my head left and right.
I wanted to wake myself up.
And that's when I hear something to my left.
And when I hear something to my left,
my entire body freaked out
and I moved,
switch my whole body,
pointing my weapon towards that direction
because I didn't know what I was, you know,
expected. But I was still in the kind of sense
of just very scared, very terrified of what I saw.
And eventually I was able to see a shadow.
Then I was able to see a shape.
And then I realized it was my sergeant.
But I was still kind of,
I was still kind of like in a frozen situation.
And when it comes to muscle discipline,
you know you don't point your weapon at nobody.
And it was literally just frozen,
in pointing this, you know,
machine gun on my sergeant.
And he was,
well, he was approaching me.
He was like, like whispering, cursing,
like, like, doing private pieces, you know?
And when he got close enough,
he actually slapped the barrel away from him.
He was still cursing me.
And me, my broken English,
as a sergeant, I think I saw a bear
in the run
and he was like
you need to get your shit together
it was probably a horse
we're going to go
and when he said the word
horse I was like
wait a minute yeah there is
there's a briefings that we had in Fort Paul
that there is a lot of wild horses
and we're going to
horses are big
they can extend them two legs
they can jump they can run
So it was kind of like a moment of clarity thinking,
oh my God, it was just a horse, the thing that I saw.
I was just kind of terrified for the whole thing about being by myself in the middle of the woods.
The woods went quiet and, you know, the whole situation that I probably thought that I saw a demon.
But it literally in the back of my head went like, no, it was a horse.
I'm 100%.
And he said, you know, I heard.
I hear it.
So he hears the theme moving
because like I say,
it was very loud,
but it was tactical in a way.
So I know he hear it.
And I was like,
holy crap,
it was just a horse.
It was just a horse.
And he was kind of freaking out.
First of all,
he found this dumb private flagging him
with this 240-brow machine.
And I'm pretty sure
he was getting his ass chewed up
because he forgot his radio.
a patun sergeant.
So he was like, we got to go.
We're kind of late.
So that's what we did.
You know, we went to finish the mission.
We went back to the truck.
Then we actually ended up meeting that toward rally point where our
platoon was.
And I remember he made a complaint about this stupid private and he was flagging me.
And, you know, he made me do like 30 pushes or something.
he was getting his ass chewed up
because he forgot his ready to
but at that time
like I said my brain was going back to
I just saw a horse
now
four days later
I was able to go back to the barracks
they gave me like a three days
I'm sorry three hours just to go and eat something
like a hot towel because when you're in the field
the only feed you eat is in Marys
So, you know, went to my room, got a Coca-Cola and gasoline eggs and stuff.
But back in 2010, Facebook was an all-time high.
So one of the main things that I did was just lugging my computer and trying to see, you know, what my friends were doing and everything like that.
And I'm going to say in you, I got a wallpaper that is pretty cool.
You can see these horses, wild horses, roars is wrong.
running in the drops of Fort Paul.
You can see the paratroopers, you know, landing from the top.
And when I turned a computer on, I remember watching the wall screen.
And that's when a thing that I remember, you know, the horses got these long faces.
They don't have this snout that I know what I saw.
And I got in kind of like this kind of like freaky moment.
Like, what the hell did I look?
what the hell
you know
was the thing that I watched
that night
and I started looking
at pictures of
you know
horses and
I shine
in the way they move
and there was nothing
absolutely
nothing close
to what I thought
the thing
I moved
and I
so
I went back to the home
maybe
it was just
so sort of like a demon
and
it was something
that was
scared me for a while
because as an atheist
I'm kind of familiar with the way people talk
when it comes to demon possessions stuff
because you want to debunk, you want to explain things away.
And by the time my brain was already 180 degrees change.
So the main thing for me was like expecting to see shadows in my room,
getting scratched.
Nothing happened.
The only thing that was very constant was like a nightmare.
that I have from like a week and a half.
I was running through the woods.
It was something chasing me.
And when I looked back, there was nothing.
And then I heard like a hint.
And it will push me so hard that my face will hit the ground.
And that's when I will wake up.
But other than that, I never, you know,
I never see any sort of shadow.
I never had a sort of scratch or anything.
So for a while,
I started to thinking that maybe there was something that was localized,
that maybe I was very close to a Native America bearing ground or something.
To the point that I actually had to one of the sergeants, you know, a sergeant, you know,
and this sort of the boss, you know, this is sort of like a Native America or burial ground or something.
He explained to me that, no, that cannot be the case.
Because if that was the case, the whole area will be off limits.
We're not able to have been close near that area.
for, you know, because it's a secret area
and there's a lot of regulations
when it comes to approaching things
that are Native Americans in that kind of room.
And he kind of like, jokingly, he said,
what, did you saw the box switch?
And it was like, what the hell is the box witch?
And I realized that it's a lure inside
for Paul about these, apparently these women
that before the army
decided to take over this land
decided to, you know, move this
a whole bunch of people away from the area to, you know,
to make the base.
And there's this lady that decided,
you know, she didn't want to move.
And she decided, you know, she committed suicide.
And, you know, that's one of the laws that happening in Fort Paul,
you know, that is women, you know,
dressed in white, you know, the classic thing
and then just goes around scary a soldier for a while.
I met somebody that he saw up and down,
that he saw her.
But it is a lord.
But the thing was,
he was kind of like making up,
making fun of me,
oh, you saw the box weird,
yada yada,
he just walked away.
And after now,
I never told anything to anybody.
Because one of the main things,
when you're in the army,
you don't want to say,
hey, I'm seeing ghosts,
I'm seeing demons because,
you know,
you came to,
you know,
send into a different area,
or you're going to be that guy,
then they're going to,
going to trust you. So I just
stay quiet.
I've lived the army in 2014.
And then I didn't
know
what it was until
2021 when I saw
this show called this was our hunted.
And it was in
season two, episode one.
And with these two brothers
and a friend that were fishing in Texas.
And this
other thing, you know.
And that's the first time that I heard
the termed dogman.
And after that, I mean, just literally obsessed with it.
I have three tattoos with, you know, one is the wolf,
then I have anubis in a couple other areas.
But I don't think it's anubis.
But I'm just completely fascinated by the thing.
Like, to the point that I want to see it again,
there is this guy that I know in Florida.
He lives in Okala.
and he explained to me that there is, you know, this family member that he sees, you know,
document once in a while.
There's no harassment.
There's no, you know, he doesn't attack the chickens or anything.
He just showed up and he just sit there and, you know, by the edge of the woods and just look at them.
But you can tell this thing, the lady says, this thing is just massive.
It's like a wolf three times bigger.
And next year, hopefully we can go back and I can go back to Florida and probably just going, you know, look them up.
Because there is not a single day that I don't think about this.
Not a single day, brother.
And that's my story, man.
I was a full-blown atheist.
born in Peru
and my life got switched
180 degrees from that encounter in 2010
and wait for 11 years
so it was a demon
until I came across a turned document
in 2021
that's wild man
that's really wild
so the
the fact that you had this encounter
and you thought it was a demon
for so long
it turns you away from
being an atheist.
How are you now?
I mean, do you think that this is still like a demon dog type of entity?
Or do you think it's much more physical?
No, brother.
No, I mean, for example, for 11 years, the whole thing switched me towards being very
open-minded towards the paranormal.
Because here's the thing, when you're an atheist, you live in this little bubble.
And with, for example, all the people that believe in religion, they're crazy.
The people that have paranormal experiences that are also, you know, kind of crazy.
And you have, you create this sort of ego in which you pretend that you're part of this special group that, you know, you're not the truth.
So seeing what I saw that, it opened my mind to the possibility of things, you know.
Maybe there are things out there that we don't know.
But at that time, I thought it was a demon.
And so I was really upset with the whole concept of ghosts and the paranormal and demons.
But I never ever heard how the dog making it was in 2021.
And now throughout these years of doing my basic investigation stuff,
I realized that there is not something demonic, but it is definitely not an animal.
It's definitely not an animal.
I just don't know what it is, but it's definitely not an animal, brother.
So it's almost like in your mind it's its own creature.
It's its own creature.
It's not an animal.
It's not a demon.
It's its own thing.
I wish I knew, you know, how can I actually gain to the details of it.
But I think it kind of goes to the same concept with Bigfoot.
Like, Bigfoot, I mean, for me, I never believed in Bigfoot before that.
And then I started thinking that maybe is just an unclassified type of primate.
But here's the thing, you know, when it comes to Bigfoot,
at least we have archaeological, you know,
things that, you know, the giant appendicitics.
And it comes that with document, there's nothing like that.
There's not a canon that can walk on two legs and do the things they do.
And I mean, I hear some crazy stories about people talk about mindspeak or things like that.
I didn't hear that.
I never, you know, experienced any thought of that.
but I'm pretty sure that there's something else.
I just don't know what it is, brother.
But we're not dealing with an animal.
I'm 100% sure.
It's the same with beef.
We're not dealing with a classified gorilla.
We're dealing with something else.
What do you think about the idea of it being some kind of interdimensional creature
that manifests here in this realm?
Well, at the point we're just right now, we're dealing with conclusions.
we don't have any sort of physical evidence.
I think the only way we can probably not close the case,
but kind of like have an answer is you can get like a body
and try to study it.
But I just don't know what it is, brother.
But I remember what I saw in those eyes,
it was something very ancient.
The thing is not just like a, you know, like a, I don't know,
like some sort of canine escape out of, you know,
out of some sort of nuclear facility.
No, no.
This is something very, very ancient.
It's being with us for a very, very long time.
I just don't know what it is.
So you think that we can kill it?
No.
Not at all.
I definitely, no, I don't think we can kill it.
There's something, there's something else about him, brother.
I just don't know.
I wish I can explain it, but we're not dating with an animal.
It's definitely not an animal.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
It's not an animal, not a demon.
I just don't know.
But it is something more complex about those two, including, you know,
big probably too.
The dogman is more nefarious.
There's something very nasty about him.
Very, very nasty.
Have you talked to people within the military about this experience you've had?
No.
The only time that I talk about was just when asking about the whole,
Native America
bearing ground
and that's it
but I never actually
brought that shit up
again because
you don't want to be
that guy
you know
talking about
you know
demons and stuff
so I just keep it quiet
for 11 years
when they were talking to nobody
yeah I understand
and so
on that note then
I'm assuming you've never
heard of anybody else
encountering this creature
or whatever it is
at Fort Polk
yeah
the only thing I hear
is about the box
which
you know, this sort of lady that hunts the woods.
But I mean, I'm pretty sure there's somebody that saw it,
but they don't talk about it.
The only thing I remember hearing is about this guy.
He has his brother.
He lives in Louisiana.
Okay.
And they, you know, inside his house,
he has this like massive, like,
how do you call it?
call, like, when you lock doors, like
middle, middle
type of locks
that you look at the doors from the inside out.
But he had is from the inside
out. So he doesn't have
the things outside. And then
the main thing that I remember is
about when, you know, this
person was talking about, you know, these two guys
that were like, these two brothers. They
two brothers had an encounter. One of the
brothers left this
rural area and he went to live to
Alexandria.
and the other guy left because, you know,
he was kind of like for, I guess,
financial issues who wasn't able to leave that place.
He actually was explaining about this experience that he had
when he was, I'm sorry, he was hunting
and he saw this massive dog just staring at him.
And he didn't pay attention to the dog,
but I guess the thing followed him
to the point that one night he was sleeping.
And then he was,
was hearing like tapping noises in the window.
When he woke up, he saw his right eyes in the windows.
And when the thing was able to notice that, the thing was, you know, being observed,
it tapped it one more time, but it was so hard, he actually cracked the whole window and just disappear.
And this person doesn't go out at a night alone.
And they showed me some pictures of this guy, you know, when he was growing up.
He was the sort of top of hunter, you know, Luciana type of guy.
hunting, you know, deer, you know, raccoon, you know, coon hunting, whatever.
But now he hasn't gone at all.
So as far as I know, I know probably there's people that saw it,
but they just don't talk about it.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I mean, I know a lot of people have these experiences and they don't want to talk about it.
I've talked to enough people, you know, that are finally talking after years of, you know,
the experience.
Even you, I mean, you had the experience in 2010 and you're just now starting to talk about it.
So there's definitely the possibility, the likelihood that other people have had the encounter as well.
Have you ever heard of Fort Campbell in Kentucky and Tennessee?
No.
No, no, I hear about those bases, but I never hear in this sort of like a encounters.
The only thing I hear about, I think it was Fort Campbell was like a big foot.
But it was kind of like a, sort of like a, you know, somebody was talking some drunken,
you know,
night,
yeah,
somebody saw like
this big
as a gorilla
for Campbell,
but literally
going to details
something like,
you know,
explained probably
who's bigfoot.
I don't know.
No,
because you don't talk
about that kind of thing
in the military.
It's kind of like,
you don't want to go,
you know,
you don't want to be that guy,
you know?
No,
I can understand that.
I think the culture is different
on Fort Campbell,
to be honest with you,
because apparently,
so I had a soldier on,
I think it was a member's episode.
It was,
I called it the siege of Fort Campbell, Dog Man Siege of Fort Campbell.
I think it's a 575 is the episode.
I think it's a member show.
And I had a soldier come on and he told me about his interactions with this creature on Fort Campbell.
And then he relayed another story.
And with his story, I mean, like, the word Dogman was called out over the radio.
It was something that it was talked about amongst the soldiers.
They train on the back 40.
It's like 40 acre property that they train on.
I think it's 40 acres.
They call it the back 40.
And that's where these experiences are coming in from.
And he even relayed a story of how there was,
he wasn't present for this as far as the location,
but it came in over the radio as it was happening.
And essentially there's this interaction with this creature.
And one of the soldiers wound up getting pulled into the bush.
and they had to pull the guy back and he was injured from the he was injured from the experience
and he heard it happen and unfold over the radio. And what was interesting about this whole
thing is that I, you know, I'm talking to this one guy and I'm not even going to say his
name because I know on video he wanted his face blurt out. So I'm pretty sure we didn't use
his real name. And I don't remember what the fake name was. But in the, I was in a, I was in a
a chat thread with him and three other soldiers from Fort Campbell.
And all four soldiers had involvement that night during that experience.
And they all had their own perspectives and vantage points.
And one of the soldiers in the chat thread that I was in was the guy who was involved
in pulling the soldier back to safety from this creature pulling them in.
of the four soldiers in this chat thread,
only one was willing to talk to me on air live.
So it kind of goes into your claim that it's like,
this is something we don't really want to talk about.
On Fort Campbell, though, from what I understand and have been told through this guy,
this is something that's such a common occurrence that it really seems like
they don't have a choice but to talk about it.
It happens often.
And this area, I mean, Fort Campbell isn't far from a place called land between the lakes.
It's shortened to be LBL, which has tons of dogman activity.
There's a family that was massacred by one of these creatures, supposedly, a long time ago.
But yeah, these creatures are definitely out there.
And it's interesting that you say that it's not an animal, it's not a demon,
because there's
in most circles
people are either going to
qualify it as a physical animal
or a spiritual demon-type creature.
You say it's not either one of those.
It sounds like you have...
Go ahead.
What I saw in a night
was something very physical.
It was heaviest when it landed
and the whole thing.
You can tell the thing was just little
the movie, it was not just like a shadow.
And also, what I saw through those eyes was something very, very nasty.
So these things have something against humanity.
I don't know what it is, but I do know that's not just, you know, classified with, you know, a demon, you know,
try to possess my soul or something.
But it was, it was very physical.
But when he jumped, when it landed, it was, it was very physical, brother.
So I don't know if, like I said, you know, probably they have some sort of ability to,
switch from one dimension to another. I just don't know. I don't understand how that works,
but it was very physical. The way it landed and the way it run, it was very, very heavy.
Well, let me tell you how the switching from dimension to dimension works. I totally understand it.
Now, I'm just kidding. I don't understand it at all. But that's kind of the direction I was going
with it, because I know you said it was very physical, but you don't believe it's an animal and you
don't believe it's a demon, which is interesting because I have been exploring this very idea
for quite a while now that these beings, these creatures, whatever they are, are interdimensional.
I do believe that. I don't believe all of them are. I like the ones that I think, because I do
believe that humans are creating these things as well through alchemical means. But
I think that these creatures, like say the one you saw,
maybe I believe that these things can be interdimensional
and what does that even mean?
Like, what are they?
You know, we can go into the idea of going back to,
you mentioned ancient times and the,
how old these things are.
Could they be a remnant of like biblical times of the Nephilim?
I don't know.
Yeah, no, there's one of the thing I can be honest about it.
Like, I know what I saw in those.
it was something that was very, very ancient.
It's not just like an animal
escape for a nuclear facility.
It's something very, very ancient
because what I saw in those eyes
was just, it was wisdom.
It was not just the ebleness.
It was just wisdom.
The things have been around for a very,
very long time.
Yeah.
And that's,
the fact that you say that
and you got that vibe from,
from this encounter,
really plays into
a lot of different things.
I'm working on some things,
and I think that when I release certain stories,
it might play into what you're saying a lot.
Basically, interdimensionalism, nephalum, accessing other realms,
creating, you know, creatures.
It's a very interesting and complex road to go down.
and I don't say, I don't think I have the answers.
I don't think many people do, if any, have answers.
But I think one of the best things we do as human beings that are encountering weird things
is we talk about it.
The more we talk about it, the more we're going to be able to draw conclusions
and further our thought processes.
And people, I have people who have said in the past, like, you know, we're mouth to
mouth, you know, people sharing their experiences are the most unreliable ways to understand topics.
And I just don't agree with that at all, especially when it comes to the mysterious side of things,
these creatures, the hauntings, UFOs, aliens, all that stuff.
Like, it's the people's experience that gets the conversation going to begin with.
And I can understand, like, you can try diving into the theoretical realm of, you know,
trying to understand things scientifically and all that stuff. But your science and your understanding
through science begins at somebody's encounter story with these things. And I think we can really
gain knowledge and understanding through having people share their experiences. And people's
experiences aren't the same from one to another. And I think that's one of the biggest things
that historically people get caught up on, especially as podcast hosts. You know, it's very easy as a
podcast host to try to get boxed into one line of thinking and say it could because you're trying
to solve the mystery of whatever you're looking into. It's very important, I think, for, for us
podcasters that dive into these things to just allow people's experiences to unfold on,
on your show organically and not not always try to connect it to what you've heard before that
made sense to you before because these things are very mysterious for a reason. It's a mystery.
And we need to let the details unfold because that's why I come to the conclusion that
there's a lot of properties that these things hold that just don't make sense. But you can't,
these things are not just one thing in my mind. It's not just a physical creature. It's not just
the demonic entity. It's not just
an interdimensional being. It's not just
something that's created in a lab. I think
it's very complex.
And the more
we let people like you just share
your story, even if it doesn't
match towards what other people
think it is or what I think it is,
just to let you share the story, I think
we can really gain a lot of information that way.
Yeah, that's true, brother. That's what I'm saying.
You know, I'm still skeptical, but
when you talk about interdimensional things,
remember there was this red light that showed up out of nowhere to my 10 o'clock
and right after that happened that's when I saw this freaking thing
so I don't know if I had anything to do with it
but the fact that it just happened within seconds
that I saw this pulsating red light and seconds later to myself in the clock
I saw this black thing just hiding behind this bush
I just don't know.
I'm very open-minded to the old possibilities,
but I'm 100% sure one thing is we're not dealing with an animal.
No, I don't think we're dealing with an animal at all.
And the red light is interesting too, because I told you how,
I think you and I had just connected,
and I told you how I had an interview before yours,
and I was talking to the guy about his experiences and stuff,
And the idea of dogman came up, he's not sure exactly what he experienced.
It seems like it might have been even more of a shapeshifter than anything.
But, you know, dogman could be, you know, a skinwalker, somebody who's transforming their body.
But one thing that he said, one thing that he said was that during his encounter with this thing,
he saw off in the distance these two red lights that he perceived as red eyes, red glowing eyes,
looking at him during his encounter with this creature.
And, you know, maybe it has some kind of connection to your story.
You know, maybe there is this.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry, to the real light that I saw, it was big.
It was like, it's like, you know, I don't know,
so sort of like somebody was lighting a fire.
It was very noticeable.
I was unable to see the source of it,
but it was the way it was shining around the trees in the bushes.
It was not just a couple of eyes.
It was very noticeable.
It was something that called my attention to the point that I saw, you know,
who is in the military so, you know, currently is to just, you know,
lit up, you know, that's a massive flashlight in the middle of the woods.
Especially when we were doing in the middle of the rotation,
a tactical situation.
But it was not just like a couple of eyes.
It was just a very, very bright, real line.
Interesting.
So the thing is, I never heard anything.
anything. I never
smell anything.
But it was just the whole thing.
It was just so bizarre that happened within the seconds.
I just don't know, brother.
It's kind of weird, you know, like I'm 43 years old and I think Monster Success.
I just don't know.
I'm like kind of bizarre thing, you know, like, but, you know, I know what I saw.
And I'm 43 years old and I don't give a damn what people think.
I know what I saw.
And the good thing is I know the other people saw the same thing.
Yeah, no, I listen, man, I'm 38. I just turned 38 last week. And yeah, I believe monsters,
I haven't even seen a monster. And I, I've heard, I think monsters exist. And, you know, it's an
uncomfortable conversation when my son, you know, seeking, seeking advice and comfort and security. And he's
like, Daddy, do monsters exist? Because he wants me to say no. And I'm just like, yes, sucker. Monsters
exist.
No, I don't say that.
Because I don't know if I told you about the other,
I don't know if it was an experience about ghosts or something,
but I don't know if I told you about this,
I know there's a prince that I have when I wasn't from Paul II.
It was pretty short.
Don't remember.
It's not going to take too much.
It was like when we have the barracks.
And then if you don't have a car,
if you cross towards this area that is willing air,
when you come out of the other side,
you're going to find what is called the PX
with the commissary. The commissaries is when you buy
your products, your food, whatever.
The PX is kind of like a Walmart.
Then you got your classics where, you know,
a whole bunch of alcohol because in the military
we're literally just like a high-functional alcoholics.
And there's this area that I was walking one time.
It was kind of dark.
It was almost like 5.30 in the afternoon.
and I was walking through it
and there was like a wooden bridge.
And when I was
halfway through it, I hear something
to my right and I looked
and there was nothing.
And when I was about to finish
crushing the bridge, I heard something
it was way more louder.
And now,
the thing that caught my attention
was because I was able
to fix it in one specific
point because
if I didn't actually see that point,
I was not able to notice ever.
And it was this little branch that came out of this tree,
but it looked like somebody cut it and then glue it,
but it did it.
That way, it was not the perfect.
You know, it's kind of like, you know,
it was like a couple of inches up.
It's like when you put a pencil in water,
you notice that sort of like a visual,
you know, the reflection that you can see.
see that something is broken.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's what I saw.
It was just a little branch that was coming out of this tree.
And it looked like somebody cut it.
And it glued it the wrong way.
And then 10 inches towards the left,
it happened the same thing.
It seems like somebody caught it and they glued it the wrong way.
So it was kind of like confused about it because this thing was literally almost like five feet
away from it.
Just right there because it was very noticeable because I was able to say,
to see right away.
And when I was looking at it,
out of the corner of my eye,
I noticed something else
moved. It was like a piece of glass.
It was like something that was
a piece of glass. It just moved.
And I freak out and just run.
So I don't know if it was a ghost
or something cloaking,
but I noticed there was something there
that was literally just right next to me.
But the way you move,
when out of the corner of my eye,
it was something that was very big.
It was very big.
Till the day, I don't know what it was.
And that happened on Fort Polk, right?
Yes, it was 2014.
That's actually before I left the military.
When I was crossing that area,
before to go to the commissary
because I was planning to go to buy some food and stuff.
You know, I freaked out so bad that after I was done buying,
I ended up by, you know, calling a cab to go back to the barracks.
But it was something so bizarre.
car, like I say, it's like this little branch
that somebody cut it and glue it
it fit up in the wrong way that is not, you know,
aligned perfectly, and then 10
millimeter, 10 centimeters later,
I'm sorry, to the left, you notice
the same thing with phenomenon and then
out of the corner of your eye, you see something like
a glass. Some people talk
about the whole predator type
of phenomenon. That's not what I saw.
It looked like a glass. It was
very transparent. You were
able to notice it what it was, but
it was something that moved. And I freaked
out and they just ran out of that.
Until I don't know what it was.
Maybe it was a goal or something.
I just don't know, brother.
Yeah, man, that's, that's, that's, that's interesting.
And, you know, it kind of,
kind of heads into the direction that, you know,
I, I, I don't, I wouldn't say I believe this or,
or even think about a whole lot, but it is a thought to be had that,
uh, military base is being strategically located in areas that have paranormal,
supernatural activity in them, either to hide those areas from the public, to study it,
to take advantage of it. I'm not sure, but I mean, Nick from Tales of the Grid Square on
Instagram, he's documented thousands of cases of weird phenomenon happening on military bases,
like 29 Palms, Fort Campbell. He's the one who organized the whole episode 575 for me and those
soldiers. Then there's
Fort Polk like you. It seems
like maybe these areas might
have dimensional
shift type
things happening that allows
this activity to happen for people
like you, even though you weren't looking
for it. Does that sound
like something that's too far-fetched for you?
No.
No. I got to disagree in the fact
that I think it's just military or literally.
I think it's just they're all over
the place. And unfortunately, the problem
is military bases are not small, brother, are massive.
We're talking about, you know, thousands and thousands of course miles of terrain and, you know,
things happen in, you know, in the woods.
And I don't think is related because I hear, you know, for example, I live in Peru, okay?
And there's also stories about things that people see in the Amazon rainforests.
So, and there is no military basis in that area.
I never actually tried to went in, investigate it,
because at one time I was talking to a police officer from
this, Neri, Ayacuchu, and he told me just to be careful.
Because if you may have good intentions to find,
trying to find some answers for the paranormal,
but the problem here over this area, there's a lot of, you know,
drug trafficking, illegal mining, human trafficking,
human trafficking.
So if you're going to go to a place asking for a whole bunch of questions,
you may get attention from, you know, people do, you know,
when I get the issue from.
But I know for a fact that there is stories about things that people see in the Amazon rainforests
that they don't explain it.
They're not able to explain it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just this is a very strange world we live in.
And there's a lot of weird things that are unexplainable happening within the world.
and we're just here trying to document it.
And I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experience here.
It was definitely interesting.
Thank you so much for me.
Because like I said, for me, I was able to talk to somebody else before,
but it was kind of like, you know, you keep the thing hidden for so many years.
It kind of eats you up.
But like I say, it's something that is not every day, every day,
every day I think about it, every single day.
And I think for the fact that there is people like you
and your platforms that, you know,
to give the opportunity to people to, you know,
explain the thing.
Because the main thing is you have to understand, you know,
you got to let people know that things out there.
Just got to be careful.
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