The Confessionals - RELOADED | 63: The Bigfoot and Dogman of Pennsylvania

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

Pennsylvania is more mysterious than many realize. Out-of-staters think of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh and then conclude that Pennsylvania is an industrialized state without much wilderness to explore. However, the reality is that between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh there are 300+ miles of deep, dense wild forests. Tonight, Kirk joins The Confessionals to share his first cryptid encounter with a bigfoot while on a hunting trip with his in-laws. Later, he details an unusual encounter that he can only conclude was a dogman! Yes, along with bigfoot sightings, dogman sightings are also on the rise in Pennsylvania. Kirk experienced both types of sightings, and comes forward to share what he has seen.MEET TONY AT:7/27/24 - Smokey Mountain Bigfoot Conference: http://smokymountainbigfootconference.com/8/1/24 - Armed Media Conference: Click HereSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comThe Confessionals Members App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZBecome a member for AD FREE listening and EXTRA shows: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinAFFILIATESGo Silent with SLNT Faraday Bags: https://alnk.to/clXuRY5EMP Shield: empshield.com Coupon Code: "tony" for $50 off every item you purchase!SPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] to the Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/the-newsletterMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

Merkel Media I guess it's time to go back in time Are you telling me you built a time machine Kind of a Dolion Time is but a stubborn illusion I have a lot of memories

Of the past People are time traveling within themselves Time travel Is possible Comes out of the cave And he starts running in five firing at this giant. With a giant moves, he's got a spear in one hand,

and he's running really fast, and spears, Dan, holds them up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face, they basically decapitated. It's almost like they're unzippering our reality, they pick their heads through it, and they look around, and if it looks like the coast is clear, they step through the rest of the direction.

If you pick the head, you get the whole package, If you don't take the head off, then what happens is they disappear? It's all circulating around the base that a giant has been killed, but no one's supposed to talk about it. Jack, and he's got blood on his face. He looks at me, and he just says one word. There's all most people have heard. Bush, and I touch air. Couldn't breathe, and I couldn't move, because I know I'm seeing a monster.

Okay, I reloaded! Welcome to the show, everybody. You are listening to The Confessionals, a proud featured show of blog talk radio.com. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thanks for being here. Today we have a great show coming up for you, but before we get into it, if you had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me, go ahead and shoot me an email. Or you can go to the website, the Confessionalspodcast.com, hit the connection section,

and you can reach me that way as well. Now, tonight we have two different interviews coming on. We have Kirk coming on to share his Big Foot encounter and his dog man encounter here in the state of Pennsylvania. He lives on the western side of the state from me, and he had two different accounts happen at two different times, and he comes on to share these accounts with us. But first, we want to bring on Leslie, and Leslie actually runs the Frank Saris Library in Cannonsburg, Pennsylvania. She's organizing this whole event that me and my brother and everybody else are going out to, and we bring

her on tonight to talk about what she's going to be doing at the Frank Saris Library on April 14th, 2018, with this big foot town hall meeting. So let's get to it right after this. Okay, tonight I have Leslie Yoder coming on, and Leslie actually works at a library in Cannonsburg called Frank Seris Library, and she's holding a town hall for Bigfoot this year. And Leslie, how are you doing? I'm doing fine, and I'm looking forward to Bigfoot Fest 2018. This is one of my favorite events to host. Yeah. Now, last year we came out, it was my wife, Lindsay and I. And she was pregnant at the time, and now we actually have the baby. And so things are a little different this year. I'm still going to go out, but I'm going to be bringing my younger brother with me.

But if you would, just share with us what this event is about and what's going to be happening this year. Well, this event, I wanted to give it a different twist this year. So I thought a town hall event would be great. We do have Dave Groves, who has had an actual inclusion. encounter with a Sasquatch in the Allegheny National Forest who will be with us. And my hope is that it draws others who've had encounters who will come and talk and feel free to talk. This is going to be an open time discussion, open forum.

Also, our guest speaker will be Doug Waller, who is the founder of the Southeastern Ohio Society for Bigfoot Investigation. The event will start at once. and it's free. It's open to the public, and we are located in Washington County, PA, in Cannonsburg. And so we are easily accessible from Interstate 70 and 79. We're at a good place, a good location. And Doug and his partner in crime, Shawna Parks, have, as I understand it, a new presentation,

so I'm excited to listen and see what they've come up with. Yeah, and I'm really excited about it too. Now, Doug Waller is a great friend of mine, and obviously so is Dave Grove. So it's just really nice to kind of get the gang together and help host this event. And, you know, I know you were talking about having different people coming out and sharing their big foot encounters and stuff, especially if they're, you know, you would love to have a lot of local people coming out and sharing their experiences. And I know you and I had talked about it a little bit ago where the fellow that was on my show for episode one, Tom, he actually is from Cannonsburg. He is a farmer in Cannonsburg who has seen two different Sasquatch on two different occasions in Cannonsburg within the last two years. And he's really excited because I talked to him about it.

He wants to come out and share his story and stuff and have me kind of just help guide him through the, you know, sharing his story again in front of a live audience. He's really excited about doing that. that's wonderful and this and I'm sure you know this western Pennsylvania with the Laurel Ridge that runs the Chestnut Ridge that runs through this part of the state is and has been a hotbed of

Sasquatch activity the animal planets Bigfoot program has you know been here they have filmed in Fayette County they held a town hall in Uniontown, and they have also been to the northern part of Pennsylvania

near the Allegheny National Forest to talk to folks up there who've had encounters. Yeah, absolutely. Finding Bigfoot has been out there a couple times in that area. I know Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, that whole area is filled with these stories of these creatures being out there. And it's absolutely fascinating. And, you know, I'm just very excited about you know, hosting, helping you guys pull this event off and it's just going to be a lot of fun. So you said that it starts at 1 o'clock and it's free, right? Yes, it is free. And we, there will be, Doug Waller will be there also and there will be, there will be,

there will be items for sale, everything from, I believe, T-shirts and other things. and I'm not certain about books, but T-shirts and that sort of thing. There will also be, I'm going to be having a drawing for a prize, probably once again with my favorite coffee vendor from the West Coast, Sasquatch coffee, so I'll be looking for that. That will also be taking place. and it's just a great time to get together with people who really believe that there is something out there, that it's not just that when people see these things, it's not just a figment of their imaginations,

that there is something really to it. And I believe, and my interest in it comes from a historical and anthropological interest. interest. And then I really became interested when my husband and I started attending an event in Wheeling at Cabela's and the Creature Weekend. And that's when my interest really peaked. And it was at that point that I met Doug Waller and Shawna Parks. And the rest of they say is history. Yeah, absolutely. And I was just talking to Dave Groves this week and he wants to donate a piece of art for the, uh, the raffle that I think people are going to be pretty excited about. I don't want to give it away. You have to show up to find out what it is, but he's very excited about

donating this. So definitely encourage people to come out. I've been telling people, you know, I'm driving six hours to get there. So if you're within a five-hour radius of Cannonsburg, Pennsylvania, I highly encourage you to come pack out this library, get a crowd there, and just have a great time hanging out with me, Doug Waller, Dave Groves, and everybody else. This can be a lot of fun. So, Leslie, I really appreciate you kind of coming on and just sharing a little about the event, and I'm looking forward to seeing you on April 14th. And I as well. And for me, this is one of my favorite events that I host all year. And so welcome and welcome everyone to Cannonsburg and the Frank Serras Public Library.

Fantastic. I'll see you there, okay, Leslie? We'll see you. Yes. All right. That was Leslie. Thank you, Leslie, for coming on and just talking with us about the event. And everybody, I hope you guys can make it out. If you're four to five hours away from there car drive-wise. I highly encourage you coming out for the day, checking it out, hanging out with me and other people. So next up, we have Kirk coming on, and Kirk's going to be sharing some of his Bigfoot and Dogman encounters, starting off with his bigfoot encounter with his in-laws. So it's a very interesting show we have coming up here tonight.

So whip out the popcorn, get some soda, and tuck in for a great show. Let's get to it. Okay, tonight I have a great guest coming on. We have Kirk. And Kirk, you and I connected a little bit back and stuff about some of your experiences here in Pennsylvania. Now, you're on the western side of the state. I'm on the eastern side of the state, and that's about six hours in between. So we're not very close to each other, but you do have some very interesting experiences. You've actually seen Bigfoot. You've actually seen Dogman. And so we're going to go into some of these experiences you've had in Pennsylvania throughout your life. So to start things off, I know you said you had a Bigfoot encounter in 1977.

If you want, you can just kind of start us off right there and let us know what happened. Sure, no problem, Tony. In 1977, I was fresh out of high school. I actually at the time was living in Ohio. And my father-in-law and brother-in-law were planning a hunting trip, deer hunting to West Virginia. They asked me if I would go, you know, try to get to know the family better. I decided to go.

So we were down hunting. I won't give the exact location, but it was central West Virginia, right outside of an orchard. They wouldn't let us hunt on an orchard, but we could hunt right outside it. First day there, we decided to scout around. I went to the west side of the property

looking for a good place to hunt. I wandered for several hours, decided it was starting to get late. I needed to turn around, go back before it got dark. It was about 4.30 in the afternoon. As I went out, I always pick good reference points so that I can remember my way back. Well, I picked the reference point that had the two biggest trees on the rear. ridge. So as I'm coming back, I come to that point. And I've got to cross a little valley that's about 50 yards wide. I'm at the top of the one ridge, looking across the valley. I see my trees,

but I also see a big, dark thing about four foot high or so that looks like maybe a big rock. but I'm thinking to myself, there's no way I could have missed that rock. What the hell is this? Am I in the wrong spot? And about that time that rock stood up, it was no rock. It was a big foot. Its back was to me. And I literally froze.

I have nothing but a bone arrow. As I say, I'm 18 years old at the time. Don't have a clue what in the world. this is I'm looking at. Just know that it's humongous. I stand there pretty much shaking. Finally, after a couple minutes, this thing just turned slightly to the left, takes a couple steps, and it's gone. I went ahead and waited a few minutes, wanting to make sure it's completely gone because I need to go that way to get back to the camper. As I'm standing there, I realize if I wait too long, it might return and I might run into it

face to face. So I go ahead and I cross, get back to the camper, tell my father-in-law and brother-in-law what I saw, didn't know what it was. The best way I could explain it was, well, maybe it was a bear. I knew in my heart it was no bear, but didn't know what else to say. Couldn't say it was a monster because I figured they'd make fun of me. Well, the father-in-law, he just laughed about it. The brother-in-law, he was somewhat interested in it,

but, you know, really didn't want to seem too interested in it because his dad would make fun of him. So we talk about it a little bit I'm pretty shook up. They could tell I was shook up. We go to bed that evening. The next morning we decide we're going to scout a little bit more because nobody really found a decent place to hunt.

Well, the brother-in-law, he says to me, let me go see where you saw this. Basically, we walked back over to this ridge line. And there again, both of us have our bow and arrows with us. Willie says to me, he says, and how big was this? We were standing right beside the tree. It was beside. I reached up to the limb that it had to duck under to get, to keep from hitting its head.

And I could just touch that limb with my bow with an outstretched arm. Willie made the exclamation, that's got to be eight foot. He said, it can't be anything. There's nothing that big. Well, we went on, we went hunting, and I never did find any signs of any animals in the West End. So basically, I hunted over on the east side. we went to a little store convenience store and gas station to get coffee and cigarettes and such we're talking with two locals in there they ask the father-in-law who was native to down there

originally if we had any luck yet and he just said no we'd seen a few signs but not even what we thought we should. Me being a young guy, I piped up, well, I saw a bear. The one local looks me dead straight in eye and says, son, there's no bear here. And I said, gee,

it was a bear, it was big, it was on its hind legs. The guy says, there's no bear in this area. Stay out of the West End. Well, that thing is, I never told them, where I was hunting, where I was looking down there. But they knew that I had to be in the west end of that property.

Incidentally, that property was about 7,000 acres or so. So we went back and we hunted the father-in-law, brother-in-law and myself. We all stayed kind of close together, not specifically, spread out as we were intending to be. And that afternoon, I heard the father-in-law yelling, I got one, I got one. And me and the brother-in-law went running over to where he was, and he was already down out of his stand. We started to track this deer.

We got to where you could tell the deer laid down. There was a pool of blood, but no deer. it just vanished like something had carried it off. Well, as odd as that is, I said to the father-in-law that that monster slash bear took it. The father-in-law said, or a person, but there was no signs of a person. There was no signs of a bear, no signs of a monster or anything. But there was just gone. that evening we were in the camper which the night before we had slept outside in sleeping bags because it's a nice night out it was first week in October it was unusually warmed out there but for some reason we all decided to sleep in the camper we were in the camper asleep and we got awoken by the camper shaking violently got up

looked out, didn't see anything, we were all puzzled, but okay, you know, maybe it was the wind. Tried to go back to sleep and about half an hour later, the same thing happened. Well, this whole time we had been feeling like something was watching us. To make a long story short, after the second time of the camper shaking violently, the father-in-law who had been a hunter all his life and was in his 50s at the time decided that something was going on the best way he could explain it was maybe a storm fronts moving in we're going to leave we cut our trip short about three days due to the fact that quote a storm was moving in we we knew it was no storm that shook that

camper uh so we left that morning. Got back to Ohio. There were some marks that looked like maybe finger smudges, about eight to nine foot up on the camper. No real evidence other than me actually seeing the creature and watching it for a couple minutes, but it was a very good feeling to get the hell out of there.

now after we got home the brother-in-law and myself talking about how big this thing was that I saw how big it must have been decided we would try something so I held my bow out at arm's length as high as I could reach just like I did to reach at branch he took a tape measure and measured from the tip of the bow to the ground and it was right at 10 foot. So that creature I saw had to be around 10 foot, 10 foot 2. It was probably 4.5 foot wide at the shoulders. Just massive, humongous. Scared the living hell out of me. Still scares me when I think about it today. I will never forget that encounter.

And since then there have been many more. Right. And so when you were out there and you were hunting, if I remember correctly, you said you were there with your father-in-law. So I'm assuming you were just at a high school. So you married the girl you were dating at the time? Correct. Just out of high school, married my high school sweetheart. Like I say, I was trying to bond with her family a little bit because they really weren't all for us.

us being married, quote, she was too young, I was too young. And I thought spending time with him, you know, would maybe win him over. Well, what can I say? It didn't quite work, didn't quite work out. But it was, you know, it was a different experience. Let me put it to you like that. Yeah, I'd say. I mean, you're trying to win somebody over and get them to like you so you can marry their daughter and you're coming back to camp saying, uh, I saw a monster. Like that's not going to win a whole lot of people over. Uh, when you saw that thing. Exactly.

Now, do you think that this thing was stalking you when you first saw it and you thought it was a rock and it stood up? Do you think that it was kind of stalking you and that's why you had all the other interaction following your initial, uh, citing? No, it didn't know I was there. The wind was blowing. toward me past it. So I was downwind of it.

It couldn't smell me. And as I say, we were at an apple orchard. The other side of it was what they call a press house, where they press apples into apple cider. Once they pressed apples into the apple cider, what they call the mash, which is crushed apples, they just kind of threw outside into this like pit, and they would literally take a bobcat front end loader

and scoop it up and use it for a fertilizer in the field. Well, those apples, apple mash, setting there would start to rot, and it stunk to beat holy hell. I could smell the apples, what I assumed was apples, when I saw that thing. But I believe my smell was masked by being downwind and by the smell of the apples. I don't believe it ever knew I was there.

But now the next day, something definitely knew we were there. Yeah, it definitely sounds like it. I wonder if it did catch a scent of you or something. I don't know. But like you said, I mean, definitely the next day, something knew you guys were there. So, I mean, just the fact that you saw one in the area, we know that, you know, there's probably more than one then, and they probably stumbled across you. Yeah, that's exactly. I'm figuring that when I saw that one, probably on that trip, another one had seen me, and I'm sure they interact in some way.

And that's why we started having the problems with them. I mean, that night as we were sitting out by the campfire cooking dinner, it was like you swore somebody was watching you. You could feel the eyes. We could hear noise in the brush at the tree line, but we couldn't see anything. Well, the father-in-law being the skeptic and, you know, the outdoorsman that he was, that's just deer running around in there foraging. Yeah, it's just some dothills. deer running around and foraging.

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and look up astonishing legends, and you will love their show. So subscribe today. So he never really admitted to the idea of feeling like he was being watched? No, he never admitted to it, but as I say, we cut the trip short three days, got the hell out of there. We actually pulled out at 5 a.m. Didn't really, and once we were back, we figured out that we didn't even get all our stuff. We had left some stuff there.

But he wanted to leave so quick, that evidently didn't make a difference. We checked with a couple people the next week, him saying that it was a storm front moving in, and it was only the wind that shook the camper. Come find out they had beautiful weather for the next week, that it was still unseasonably high with the daytime highs in the middle 70s. That's interesting. So I'm assuming to this day, as far as you know, he's never really admitted to feeling spooked or anything. Even, I'm assuming he saw the fingerprints on the handprints on the camper.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. How do he explain that away? He said, well, those were smudges from a tree branch we must have rubbed against. Well, they went up and down, not vertical, not horizontal rather. So that rules that out. he would never admit to anything. But I can tell you this, he never went back down to that location to hunt again. It's that old hunter instinct, I guess, where they won't tell you that they're

scared, but they're scared. Exactly. Exactly. Now, I think you said it was his son, your brother-in-law that was with you. Now, what did he have to say about it? I mean, was he more open to talking about the possibility of something crazy happening? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He would talk about it, probably for the first year, but after that he never really wanted to discuss it anymore because, quote, Pops, which is what he called his dad, Pops always said that it can't be anything. So it had to just be the wind. And we don't know what you saw, but, you know, you must just imagined it. Wow.

So you just imagine something... We did find a couple... Something stealing his deer, yeah. And something shaking the camper that woke all three of us up. Wow. Because that's the thing. I mean, when it came to the whole deer going missing, how long did it take you to track down the deer?

Once he yelled, I got one, and you guys tracked down the blood puddle. How long did that take? Roughly. We tracked it. It was probably 40, 45 minutes to get from where he shot it to where we found the blood pooling and the matted down grass, which was actually, it was right at the edge where it turns into the woods.

Okay. So when you get there, there wasn't a body anywhere. the body was literally gone. Nothing. It was gone. Like something swooped down and carried it away. See, and that's the thing. I mean, as a veteran hunter that shot this,

I'm assuming he shot a mature deer, a dough or a buck that was mature. Right. And I just don't see... It was an eight-point buck. Okay, so it was a sizable deer. And, you know, to carry something like that away, that's got to be pretty hard if you're a person.

Right. Oh, yeah. Because you said there was no drag marks, right? No, no drag marks whatsoever. And as we were tracking this thing, William was saying that, this was probably 250-pound deer. But it was a massive deer. It was a hell of a deer.

Well, of course, you know, you've got adrenaline flowing when you shoot it. Maybe it wasn't quite that big, but I'm sure it was still probably at least 200 pounds. Holy cow. I mean, would have definitely been very hard for a person to carry off. You would pretty much have to drag it. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, it's definitely possible to carry 200 pounds, but when you put the equation in 200 pounds out in the woods, you know, having to probably do it by yourself and do it quickly enough that nobody sees you, there's not a whole lot of people that can do that, you know? And if they can, why don't they just hunt their own? deer. Right. And you'd also, you would have had to know the topography of the land there. It would have either had to been carried back past us, which it wasn't, or it would have had to go into

the woods. Well, to go into the woods, you were about two miles to the next road, having to cross a fairly wide stream and pretty mountainous terrain. So it would have made no sense for a human to pick it up and take it into the woods. Yeah, I agree with you. I absolutely agree with you. And when you, this whole thing happened and you guys go back home, did you tell your girlfriend what happened? Well, actually, she was my wife. We had just got married at July. And this happened in October, the first week of in October. Oh, yeah, I told her, and she laughed at me.

She was daddy's little girl and daddy could do no wrong. Daddy would never lie. You know, he knew that. Okay, well, like I say, the marriage didn't last real long, but. So you kind of started off on the wrong foot there, huh? Exactly. Yeah. Well, I definitely think that you saw something, obviously, man.

I mean, it's kind of hard to mistake when you are picking a, a, marker out, you see the two trees, and then you see something that wasn't there four feet high, and then it stands up to about 10 feet high. It's kind of hard to mistaken that for anything else. What was your knowledge? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So what was your knowledge at that time on Bigfoot? I know you said you didn't think it was Bigfoot at the moment, but did you know about Bigfoot? Well, okay, let me give you a little background. My grandmother was Cherokee. And growing up, when we would go down to visit her, she lived in West Virginia, her and my grandfather. When we would go down to visit, sometimes she would tell stories about, quote, the hairy man of the woods.

And she also told the story about the hairy man of the woods fighting with the dog-headed man. But, you know, as kids, we always thought that this was just some tale to keep us inside at. night. They lived on a farm down in the mountainous region and we like to go outside and play, you know, well, we just figured that it was tails to keep us indoors so they could watch us better. But as far as ever knowing about Bigfoot, I had no clue about it. I actually, after that occurrence happened, like I say, that was in 77. And I really struggled wrapping my mind around what the hell it was I saw. I knew it was not a bear, but I didn't know what it was.

And I just happened to, I was in the library looking through some books. And I picked up one on cryptozoology that was out of place. what the hell is cryptozoology. So I opened the book up and there was a picture of the exact thing I saw. And then I knew what it was. But for those six years, I had no clue whatsoever what it was I saw.

I just couldn't imagine, y'all. I knew it wasn't a bear, but I also knew it wasn't a human. and what could it have been? Well, at that point, when I saw it, then I knew what it was. Then I knew all the stories that Grandma had said were true. And at that moment, was that like a life-changing moment for you? Did you start looking into the topic more?

That was 100% life-changing. I started, I truthfully at that point in time decided, well, even though I can't make a living at it, I'm going to be a part-time cryptid investigator. And I've been investigating these things every chance I get ever since. And in my, shall we say, journey of investigations, at the time I only thought that there was Sasquatch slash Bigfoot slash the hairy man of the woods. Then I learned of other things such as Dog Man,

and a few years ago had a dogman encounter. And during the times of my research, I found out about what the Indians call a shapeshifter. And actually recently this past summer had a, well, actually this past fall had an experience with a shapeshifter. Yeah, you know, since you mentioned about the dog man encounter, you know, why don't you you just kind of take us into that encounter that you had because I found it very fascinating when you told me? Well, that was actually, I want to say, the one that sticks out most in mind, and I've had three, the one that sticks out most in mind, happened 2014, a driveway, had been over to visit a friend and here in western pennsylvania in washington county and i just backed out of

his driveway turn the wheels to get straight to go down the road and this thing that once more this was a humongous thing it jumped right across the hood cleared the hood of my 2008 jeep Liberty, which is a fairly high sitting vehicle, it cleared the hood in one bound, ran up the embankment beside the road, and was literally gone. I saw it maybe 15 seconds, but as it leaped across the hood, it looked right in the windshield. And there's nothing that I can say that it could be including Sasquatch

other than a dogman this thing was your classic canine-looking dogman it was a werewolf from hell shall we say and that scared the hell out of me I mean

I literally as I say I was ready to go forward had shifted to car from reverse to drive and all I could do is sit there I couldn't take my foot off the break I couldn't do anything I just sat there for probably three four minutes wandering in total disbelief total shock

and just couldn't wrap my head around that one either but, you know, seeing is believing. And this thing, looking in at me with teeth that had to be an inch and a half long, it's frightening. Let me put it to you like that. Yeah, absolutely frightening. So this thing jumps across the hood and it looks in at you, and you got a really good look at this thing then. I mean, what was the body like?

Was the body more like, I mean, I don't even know how to describe it. Is it like your classical werewolf-type body, or was it more like dog-like? Well, it had the canine features of the hind legs. Shall we say the reversed facing legs like a dog? Its arms slash legs, and I'm not really sure what you would call them, but we'll call them its arms. it had more hand than paw, shall we say. And its claws, I just got a glimpse of it,

but they appeared to be probably three inches long. Wow. So it didn't have really pause. It had more of like hand like. More like hands, yeah. Wow. That's incredible. And you said the fangs were, how long, like three inches?

Probably. No, the fangs were an inch and a half sticking out. Okay. Its mouth was closed, but yet it's canine, I could see it's canine teeth and the front teeth. And with the closed jaw, the upper fangs were sticking below the lower jaw by about an inch and a half. Now, when you saw this thing and it jumps across your hood, it just kept going. It didn't stop. It didn't, like, bother you at all.

It just kept moving like it was just jumping over a tree. Right, exactly. Like, it was just a high hurdle for it to jump over, and I was nothing to it. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, that's incredible, man. And that was in Pennsylvania, right? Yeah. Yeah, that was just outside of 84, Pennsylvania.

Okay. Well, wow, that's pretty nuts. So we're going to take a break right now. And when we come back, we'll dive right back into things with Kirk. We're right back, everybody. Now, you said recently you've had a shapeshifter encounter. Correct. Was that in Pennsylvania as well?

Correct. That was very near the Pennsylvania, West Virginia border. So what happened there? Well, as I say, a lot of this stuff has happened some of this stuff has happened to a good friend also including a big foot around his house and a dogman around his house

last February we found the dogman prince he's had a lot of livestock killed so we started doing more investigations shall we say trying to get to the bottom of this thing, trying to prove that it exists. So we were at this one location where it had been rumored to have been spotted before it actually is on the cloaked hedgehog's map of being spotted there. We were during the investigation, both of us were on quads. It was early on a Sunday morning.

in October and there again the first weekend in October except it was shall we say on the chili side the high for the day was only going to be about 50 degrees

we're out in the middle of nowhere riding this trail that used to be an old logging road bordering a coal company property We come to the top of this trailhead. There's maybe 100 yards before the intersection with another trail.

Very muddy. It had rained the night before. Like I say, the high for the day was only going to be 50. We encounter this little old man that I would say from the looks of him would be about late 70s. This man is dressed kind of odd. He has on nothing but a police pullover shirt. He has very baggy blue jeans on. He's smoking a cigarette and he has house slippers on.

Now there's no house anywhere near there. The closest house is three and a half miles away. with the exception of one old abandoned house that was abandoned in 1988 that originally had been built in 1850s. But anyways, you know, I'm getting ahead of myself. So this man, we'll call it, is just totally, totally out of the normal, of anything you would think to see out there. well we don't want to splash this guy with mud so we're going by him very very slow when i say slow when both in low gear have the brakes on we're doing maybe three mile an hour at the most as i say the guy is smoking a cigarette so we go buy this individual at three mile an hour

literally three foot away from him. The first thing that was odd was we could not smell the smoke. The second thing was when we looked down and both noticed that the guy had house slippers on, but there was no mud on the house slippers. As soon as we got by the guy, we went maybe another hundred foot. I stopped Hank, my partner, and I said, there's something strange about this guy. We got to go back and find him, see what's up.

I said, this guy does not belong here. The first thing came to mind was, you know, maybe this is some old man with dementia. And literally, as I'm standing there saying that, we hear a series of wood knocks. We turn right around. And as I say, we only want about 100. foot. So we're talking all this

within a minute. We turned right back around. The man was gone. To the right of that trail, there's a 300 foot drop off into a river. To the left, it goes

up, raises about 100 foot into very thick, dense woods. Okay, but yet somebody that old, somebody dressed like that is not going to be able to go into these woods and be out of sight. The guy just basically vanished,

other than us hearing those three tree knocks. So we're very puzzled where this dude is. We went ahead, we looked about now. Then near the same spot, about a 16-year-old kid appears. Once more, totally out of character, dressed in just a tank top and a pair of basketball shorts. As I say, the high for the day is going to be 50 degrees. So any kid would be freezing his ass off, standing out there in the damp.

But lo and behold, there this kid is. And we get by him. Hank at that time was one that stopped because my mind was still, I want to find this old man. Hank at that time stopped and said, you know, there's something not right about this boy. I said, yeah, let's go talk to him. Well, we were probably 50 foot or so only past him to the point where I should be able to turn my head, look back and see him. and I turned my head, got off the quad, there's nothing there. I look over into the valley and literally what appears to be a dog man is standing there by a tree and ducks behind the tree.

Now, was it a dog man and this kid just disappeared? I don't know. by what Indian legend tells me that this was probably the old man, the kid, the tree knocks, the dogman slash werewolf, whatever the hell you want to call it, was probably all a shapeshifter. We tried to ride over to where we saw the dogman slash werewolf,

being the fact that it's about a 300-foot, drop off and there's a big creek down there. Couldn't go directly there. So we had to go probably a mile down to where we could get across the creek and then right back up to where we saw it at. By that time, there was nothing. There were odd tramps beside the tree, though, that appeared to be dog or war.

wolf, but shall we say dog or wolf on steroids, they were about eight by five and a half, eight by six inches. Wow, that's pretty incredible. I mean, you just, because I mean, basically what you're saying is the man and the boy, there was really nowhere for them to go, right? No, there was nowhere. They could have not went anywhere without being seen. They just vanished, Tony.

Wow. Now, when you said, I forget how you described it, but you said, oh, you said, you saw what looked like a dog man. Now, when you... It was actually closer to what you would think of as, say, a werewolf out of the movies. Did it see you? Oh, yeah, it stood there and looked at us. And what did you guys do at that point? just kind of sat there in disbelief. The only redeeming aspect was we had the feeling because it was down the embankment, a couple hundred feet and across the creek, and we were on quads that we could get the hell out of there before it could get to us.

So, I mean, I would have been scared that I was going to chase after me. Is that something that crossed your mind? Oh, hell yes. You know, both of us are. have rather large quads that'll run about 65 mile an hour. We both thought we could have outran it, but yeah, it definitely crossed both our minds about this thing coming after us. So what do you think? I mean, do you think that this was a dogman that,

and they have shapeshifting ability, or do you think that this was like a shapeshifter, shapeshifting into a dog man for appearance? Well, let me say this. In the years of research, you basically, what I found is you have Bigfoot. Bigfoot is a flesh and blood creature. You have Dog man. Dog man is a flesh and blood creature.

Then you have, as the Indians refer to a shapeshifter that can take any form. My personal belief is this was a shapeshifter, and this is, took the form of a dog man, be it to scare us or be it the fact it was ready to attack, I don't know. Yeah, that's fascinating. The whole shapeshifted our idea and stuff, I don't know a ton about, but I know it's definitely rich in Native American history and culture. They talk about that a lot.

Yes, they do. So you've had these encounters, you know, the Bigfoot encounter. The dogman, the shapeshifter, you know, you're out there in Western PA. What's some of your conclusions here? Are you thinking that these are undiscovered animals, or do you think that there's a more supernatural aspect to it? A lot of people seem to think that dog man isn't a natural creature. What are your thoughts on that?

Well, let me give you some history from what the Native Americans say. dogman and Bigfoot had a war in the late 1600s, early 1700s that actually happened around Wheeling West Virginia even though Dogman were outnumbered by Bigfoot almost 4 to 1 Dogman almost defeated Bigfoot into war

but it decimated both their numbers to the point where they almost made each other extinct. Now, I do believe both our flesh and blood creatures yet to be discovered. And I believe the reason that we're having these sightings now is it's simply, it's taken this long for their numbers to get back up to where we are now seeing. And I believe in the future we are going to see more of them, have more sightings, and I believe that science will at some point in time have to admit,

hey, these things are real. Now, as far as the shapeshifter goes, I don't have a damn clue what it is. I mean, the Indians, seriously, the Indians say that it is a spirit. It's demonic. It's called up from the depths of hell. And it's basically called up for a curse. but, you know, I can't say one way or another.

I just know that I really don't want to run into it again, with the exception of maybe if I've got a tank, you know, or maybe a flamethrower. Yeah. No, I get it, man. I mean, I've never seen anything like that, but, I mean, I can imagine seeing that stuff can, I mean, I don't know. Like, I've heard of people's,

encounters and stuff and some pretty scary encounters. And if I had a scary encounter like that, I don't know if I'd be able to step foot back into the woods. Tony, come on down for one of our investigations this season. And there's a good possibility that you will see something. Well, you know what? If the invites on the table, I am planning on making my way out to Western PA sometime this year, so maybe we can link up.

Not a problem, brother. I got an extra quad. You can ride with us. We do several different types of investigations. Some include quads with them. Some include stealth investigations. We do one that's called a curiosity investigation where you actually try to bait these creatures to come in

to see what the hell is going on. And that actually seems to work pretty good. One thing I probably shouldn't give away, but I will is they seem to be attracted to very cheap, strong-smelling perfume. Really? So like dollar-store perfume? Right. That's interesting. I've never heard that before. But, I mean, you got to try other things.

Sure. I'm sure you're familiar with land between the lakes. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay. One of the theories of why that family was killed there was because, of the perfume that the lady was wearing. Yeah, I've never heard that. But, I mean, it makes sense, though, if you're investigating and you hear something like that to implement it into your investigations

to see how it works. Right, right. Well, Kirk, I really appreciate you coming on and talking and sharing some of your encounters and stuff. Man, that's really interesting stuff. And before we get out of here, I know you just created your Facebook page for your group, but if you give a shout out to what your group's called,

people can kind of come and check it out. Sure. Our group is Northeast Crypted Investigation Services. You got a problem? Give us a call. We'll come investigate. We are 100% free. The Facebook page was just created.

I haven't added anything yet, but by the end of the weekend, it will be a lot of our investigation evidence will be posted on it. Right now we have four members, soon to add our fifth and sixth. Four of the members are all-season investigators. One has six years investigating Bigfoot. It's a very good evidence gatherer.

One of us has 30 years experience in the woods and then my experience. And another has five years experience investigating dogman in particular. Wow, that's awesome, man. Well, yeah, like I said, I know you just created the Facebook group yesterday, but by the time this show airs and everything, hopefully people start coming in and checking out your group there. And, you know, if they have a need, hopefully they give you a call, man. But I really appreciate you coming on and checking in with me and sharing some of your stories. No problem, Tony.

All right, brother. Take care. Well, that's the show, everybody. I really hope you enjoyed it. And as always, whenever we do a show at Pennsylvania, we find out Pennsylvania is more mysterious. than any of us can explain. So that will wrap up this week. Hopefully you guys have a great week ahead of you. Stay safe.

Take care. And I'll see you right here next Saturday night on the Confessionals.