The Confessionals - RELOADED | 635: Summoning The Demon

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

In Episode 635: Summoning The Demon, we are joined by Alan and Evan DiDio, discussing their experiences at the Armed Conference 2023 and the impact of the information that was shared there. Tony then ...introduces Alan DiDio's new book, "Summoning the Demon: AI, Aliens, and the Antichrist," exploring the convergence of artificial intelligence, transhumanism, biblical prophecies, and the potential modern-day resurgence of Nephilim. Alan emphasizes the church's need to engage with these topics, considering the biblical narrative's relevance to contemporary discussions about AI and alien phenomena. They then highlight a broader spiritual awakening among younger generations, attributed to an increased awareness of the presence of evil in the world, prompting a greater interest in spirituality beyond traditional religious confines.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSasquatch and The Missing Man: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comAlan DiDioWebsite: blameitonthenephilim.comYouTube: @EncounterTodayTVInstagram: @alandidioEvan DiDioInstagram: @evandidioMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducerOUTRO MUSICJoel Thomas - Joel ThomasYouTube | Apple Music | Spotify

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Starting point is 00:00:49 of the past People are time traveling within themselves Time travel is possible. This was all circulating around the base that a giant had to kill, but no one was supposed to talk about it. I saw three long, bony fingers reach up underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And he starts running and firing up this tree. giant moves. He's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds them up like this. Somebody else, shoot him in the face, shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Feel something pulling at my leg. And I look over and there are two small gray entities
Starting point is 00:02:06 pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush and I touch air. Couldn't breathe. And I couldn't move because I know I'm seeing a monster. Okay, I reload it. Welcome to the show, everybody you're listening to The Confessionals Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Merkel.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Thanks for being here. If you've a crazy, wild experience, you want to share with me on the show. Go ahead and shoot me an email. My email address is Contact at theconfessionalspodcast.com. That's Contact at the Confessionalspodcast.com. Or go to the website, theconfessionalspodcast.com. Hit the contact section, and you can reach me that way as well. Either it was from me, just get a hold of me.
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Starting point is 00:03:32 It's so good, by the way, too. I was going to move past it. I was like, nope. The shape of shadows. The shape of shadows and Exhibition Dogman, MerkelBeefills.com. Go ahead. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:42 So actually, you just said that you guys watched it last night. Oh, yeah, we purchased it. We purchased it because I wanted to own that sucker. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, I appreciate that. So we just recently opened up Merklemediafilms.com.
Starting point is 00:03:54 We were sending people to Merkle. Dot Media. And then I opened up a whole new website where purchasing and happening and everything. It's been pretty cool so far. That's amazing. I'm waiting for the logistical nightmare of something. something that I didn't think of beforehand, but until then, I'm going to just bask in the funness of it. So, but today we have Alan and Evan Didillo in the house. How are you guys
Starting point is 00:04:16 doing? So good. Pretty spectacular. Yeah. I'm glad you guys are here. Such big fans. No, stop. Seriously, so excited. We were just talking about before we came on how we were at the National Religious Broadcasters Conference Convention, whatever it is, and in Nashville, Tennessee. And there's so many people there who love this program. It's wild. There's this weird crossover that's taking place right now. And everybody wants to talk to Tony Merkel. And I can't believe I'm the guy that's sitting here. So it's all. Tell them to come on in. Yeah. I mean, we got microphones and we can just do whatever. So that's wild. I mean, sitting on this side of things, you don't really have a good gauge. Everybody's just numbers on the screen. And you assume the people who are listening are the truck drivers,
Starting point is 00:05:01 to people who are, you know, doing the just the everyday blue collar type works. Like, I don't ever expect, you know, somebody that I know to ever know who I am and listen to the show. But I guess the reality is you do it long enough eventually is going to happen, you know? Like, we recently broke 35 million downloads total for the show in the last seven years. Wow. That's wild. And so it's like, of that 35 million, you wonder, who actually has ever listened to a show? That's wild, right? So, I mean, you start thinking like, huh, I wonder if LeBron James ever heard me bashing him on my show.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's interesting. Because I got some thoughts about that guy. Yeah, I got some thoughts about King James. Yeah, exactly. I got a King James for you. Did you ever hear some of the stuff about him and the stuff that he's involved in behind the scenes? I can't imagine. So let me just tell you, his ritual during pregame is straight evil.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Like, he throws up the sixes and all the symbology that he does, it's clear that he knows what he's doing. And then he has years ago, there's this guy, Larry, not Raglan, that's one of our friends. Larry Raglan. He's actually coming on on the show later this month. Yeah. From what's his show? Alabama. And Alabama.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. The big picture. The big picture report. Yeah. But I forget the other guy's name. But he went on my friend Sam Tripley show and he started dropping all this knowledge. And like apparently LeBron has his tattoo on his chest. and it's symbolic of this like
Starting point is 00:06:29 Boubley society or something that the Boulet, Boulet society. Not Boubley. He's about to say. Not Michael. Not Michael. But it's just, you know, all these conspiracies and stuff about LeBron, but one thing's for sure just seeing what he does on video.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I'm just like, yeah, I think you, I think there's a reason why you're 40 years old and playing like you're 18 again, you know? So I don't know what goes into that, but we're not here to talk about that. It's such a divisive figure, too, so that makes sense. Very, very. Fresh-teratingly divisive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But I want to let people know before we get carried away the conversation because we get together and we just start talking. Remember when we were at the conference last year? Oh, yeah, man. So those who don't know, we had Tony Merck, we had a media conference for the Christian community showing them how to do media well. Who better to have in the room than Tony Merkel? I learned so much. But it was, so we have this green, right green rooms, but we have the room for speakers and to eat together. And we start talking about, this is a room full of pastors, right? And we start talking about Nephilim.
Starting point is 00:07:25 and everything. And it was, what was it, two-hour conversation? Oh, yeah. So we determined from that moment, anytime we have guest ministers over, even at the next arm conference that we're going to be doing this year, there's going to be cameras and microphones
Starting point is 00:07:37 in the green room, because that's where the good conversations happen. And isn't it good to have a room full of ministers that you can record what they're talking about? Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, no, it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And people need to go this year, especially if you're in the social media realm and all that. I mean, I learned so much. I mean, one of the thing that always comes through my mind since then is, I think one of you guys said it. I can't remember who, but somebody said YouTube is the son that's a social media universe revolves around. And I'll never forget it because to that point, I just looked at YouTube as like, eh, whatever, you know? And that's when we started trying with YouTube.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And since, in fact, I just looked at it recently since August last year, I think we've grown almost 30,000 subscribers in YouTube. Wow. because we've been trying, you know? And, you know, just like the thumbnail images tend to look the same and similar. And it just, like, we took a lot from that. Even do the thumbnail images being, the title on there being different than the actual title of the video, took all that into consideration. And we've been just really just kicking butt with it.
Starting point is 00:08:42 So, that's so cool to hear. We learned all that stuff. So people who are watching this on YouTube, the reason why we're even doing YouTube consistently right now is because these two guys right here. Oh, come on. Like, seriously, that's honestly got the God truth. So we learned a lot. lot. We walked away really inspired. And it was really just, like you mentioned about that conversation.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I was sitting there. I was just like, this can't be real. Like, I was sitting here with these people talking about like, did I bring up Nephilim again? Dang it. I don't think you did either. I don't think so. You were just in the room and I see this grin come over your face. It was one of those things where you just, you're like, oh, they just hit that button. Thank you. Yeah. But you just recently are coming out with a book. Yeah, this could be your fault, too. I don't know. You think so? I don't summoning the demon, AI, aliens, and the Antichrist. Yeah. A thousand foot view.
Starting point is 00:09:30 What's it about? Well, it began when I saw a clip of Elon Musk when he was asked about artificial intelligence, and he said, with AI, we are summoning the demon. And then he talks about a movie where we see someone draw a pentagram on the floor, and they're invoking a demon thinking they're going to control it. And he said, how's that going to work out for him? Because we know that it's going to turn back on him. And with that,
Starting point is 00:09:53 I realized the church needs to understand artificial intelligence, how it can help. I'm not one of these people who are saying, just throw the baby out with the bathwater. We need to learn how to dominate it, not run from it. We need some people in the tech space, some sleeper cells, Holy Ghost sleeper cells, who are putting gospel algorithms into these chatbots, into these language models. So I think we need to learn how to utilize all these aspects for the gospel. But at the same time, does the Bible predict artificial intelligence? And if it does, what does it say and what should the church's response be?
Starting point is 00:10:26 How do we dominate it? How do we kind of tow that line? So I started researching and diving in writing about summing the demon artificial intelligence. Well, then you start going down that path and then you run into transhumanism. And when you start running into transhumanism, which is also in biblical history, you start running into aliens. And then, of course, the Antichrist agenda overarching all of these things. And as fascinating as it may be, the church has run from this subject matter for a long time when we actually have a more interesting narrative, I think, biblically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Very fascinating. So I thought, well, I need to write a book about this so that from the Scully perspective, I often talk about being that skeptic, you know. And my journey in discovering what does the Bible say about this? And it has a lot, actually quite a bit to say about these things. And what should our response be? How do we navigate through all of this? So that's where summoning the demon comes in. And my son there, he designed the cover.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I know that. I saw that and I was like, that's his signature. Yeah. Like, you have your own style, dude. Like, when I saw that, I was like, Evan did that. In fact, when I was looking at it earlier today, I wanted to make sure I brought that up because it's just you have a style and like an artistic style that is, it stands out from everybody else.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Thank you. And there are actually some hidden images in there. Oh, yeah. So you could stare at that for a while. That's my face. Yeah, there's Markle. I'm not an alien. I probably spent, you know, 15 hours, 20 hours.
Starting point is 00:11:50 and just kind of finding layers symbolism you know things are lined up in a certain way so it's if you if you spend some time to look at it you might notice some cool things I've tried copying your style it doesn't work so I just gave up and you know use AI to make my show on. You can't get that on Canva
Starting point is 00:12:06 that's for sure. No you definitely can't but this book is jam-packed with information I want to just read through these chapters for the audience so they can just get a taste of what we're talking about here because when I was looking at these chapters was like Yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Chapter 1, Manhattan Project. Then AI and the Tower of Babel, AI and biblical prophecies echoes in Revelation. Chapter 4, a thought experiment, the great deception. An overview of AI, six UFOs in the Bible, seven projects, Project Blue Book, eight Skinwalker Ranch. Okay. Been there, right? Yes. Nine, close encounters.
Starting point is 00:12:50 demon possessions. Chapter 10, Project Blue Beam, Genesis of a conspiracy. Chapter 11, the Sons of God. And then we follow that up with Chapter 12, the emergence of the Nephilim. It's so good. Chapter 13, the Antichrist Spirit. Chapter 14, Antichrist's agenda.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Chapter 15, warning, watch for this, all caps. And chapter 16, Satan's end time strategy, exposed. And I'm just like, man, could you make a book more tailored for my audience? Like, I was like, holy crap. It's so much fun, right? This has been, I've written five books. This is by far the most fun to research and to write. I think it's the most serious. I think we've laughed at this subject matter for a little too long. Yeah. I think we need to get very serious about it, but it's been a blast. Oh, well, I mean, I believe it. So let's dive into some of this. I mean, we're like, I want to talk about some of this stuff in here. We'll let the conversation kind of
Starting point is 00:13:48 fold from there. Sure. But the one that just sticks out to me because it's been talked about a lot of my show recently, the idea of emergence of the Nephlin. What do you mean by that? Well, again, with some of this stuff, I write it in parts like a mystery because I don't want it to be just dry facts and information. So I don't want to reveal too much, but we can just talk here, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:14:10 We can just be honest. This isn't like a lot of podcasts. No. The rise of the Nethlum refers to a couple of things. Now, biblically, there's a very interesting prophet. concerning the rise of Nephilim in the last days. So when we see the first prophecy given in Scripture, this is in Genesis chapter number three,
Starting point is 00:14:27 where God comes down after they have been tempted and they have fallen. And he gives this prophecy against the serpent. And he says, to the woman, your seed will bruise his head. His seed will bruise its heel. And we walk through those scriptures. And it's fascinating because when we, in Bible interpretation, we look at the entire verse and we interpret it, we have to interpret it the same way.
Starting point is 00:14:52 So if it says that to the woman, your seed will bruise his head, we know that that's referring to a literal individual. This is a real person who's going to come to the earth. His name is Jesus. So if that seed is a real person, then the other seed reference there, Satan's seed, must also be a real person and an individual. So there's a couple things we get from that. Number one, prophecy is not what we've thought it is, or it is not limited to what we've thought. Prophecy is a weapon. The first weapon wielded against the enemy is a prophecy against him.
Starting point is 00:15:24 So shows why he hates prophecy so much. And I believe prophecy makes the Bible unique out of all holy books. Secondly, when we look at this prophecy, we see that there is going to be a seed of Satan that comes into the earth. earth that is speaking of the Antichrist. I believe this is directly referring to the Antichrist, and I'll tell you why here in a moment. Then we skip to Genesis chapter 6, which you're very familiar with,
Starting point is 00:15:52 which there's a great book about the Genesis 6 conspiracy. Gary Wayne. I just had him on the show. Gary Wayne. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good. Such a good interview, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I hook you up if you want to talk to him. Any day. Any day of the week. I'll cancel whatever's going on. He's got information for days. Yeah. That's the first installment, right? Yeah, and he just came out the number two, and he already has three and four planned.
Starting point is 00:16:14 See, mine is the summary, basically. Like, you know, for an introductory, get your feet wet in the thing, that's more in advance. When he wrote the first book, it was 1,200 pages, and the editor told him to drop it down to 800. It's crazy. What I did is I bought it digitally, and you can do word searches, and I just use it for a resource of understanding. So anytime, like, somebody says something, I'm like, I think Gary wrote about that. I do a word search. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Gary says that's a nepham. Keep going. That's awesome. So Genesis 6, obviously the sons of God come down and mate with the daughters of men, and we have this race of giants that's born into the earth. I've interviewed Jewish rabbis who have thought that there's some natural explanation for that, but there's no natural explanation for the sons of God and the daughters of men creating a race of giants. So we see this hybridization.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Then we fast forward, and I'm skipping through a lot here, Then we get to the Tower of Babel, which I think is enormous implications, Nimrod, and the history of who that individual was, possibly the first transhuman, as far as not in the way you think from Genesis 6 only, but technology merging with flesh, which is fascinating. Wild. It is wild. And this is why you say that some pastors don't want to touch this stuff? Yeah. Because it's so beyond typical understanding. Like we're taught to believe that back then they didn't have technology that we had today.
Starting point is 00:17:49 How is that possible? What did you just said according to those that thinking? Well, it doesn't take a genius to look back at history and ask, are we getting smarter or are we getting dumber? And when you look at the pyramids for an example, we have no clue. How do they do that? And what are they there for? I know there's a lot of ideas about it. but we still with our technology.
Starting point is 00:18:08 We're trying to figure that out. And I think I've got some pretty good ideas and I think you do as well that I talk about in the book, as a matter of fact. But obviously these people are smart. Adam, the first man named all the animals. Do you know any individual living today who can name all the animals? This is the first guy ever walked the face of the earth. So these are some pretty sharp individuals who lived an extended period of time. You're talking how much knowledge can you accumulate in 500 years, 900 years?
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. Yeah, so these are some pretty smart people. And so we have this transhumanism that takes place, which I go into the different, the different ways Nephilim can manifest in the earth. One is through that hybridization of the sons of God and the daughters of men. But what happens when this alien technology, if you will, is imparted to humanity where these nefarious spiritual beings impart technological information that allows a human being to interface with the human. spirit world. And it is believed that Nimrod was one of these individuals. Nimrod the manhunter, cannibalistic individual, hunted human beings, and is trying to build a tower to heaven. What does that mean? He's trying to build a portal. He's trying to build an access point for heaven. Now, God comes down and confounds their language in order to stop because unity is one of the most powerful forces in the earth. And if everyone's speaking the same thing and everyone's saying the same thing. The Bible said nothing that they imagined would be impossible to them. So they're going
Starting point is 00:19:36 to actually accomplish this. They're going to build a portal and access things that human beings have no right accessing. And the same reason why man was banished from the Garden of Eden so that they wouldn't touch of the tree of life and live forever in a sin-soaked condition. God's plan has always been redemption. So he's put up these guardrails not to keep us from having a good time. He's trying to lead us down a path of redemption. Give us time. Give us time. to repent and an ability to access everlasting life. Of course, the enemy is trying to get us, trying to destroy us, because we represent the apple of God's eye.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And that's how he hurts God. Am I? Yeah. I feel like I'm just shotgunning this. No, I'm tracking. Okay. So the Tower of Babel, there's a whole chapter on AI and the Tower of Babel and how those things parallel,
Starting point is 00:20:26 because artificial intelligence is now pulling down that barrier that separated us from accomplishing Nimrod's vision. So Nimrod, the second Antichrist-like figure in Scripture, he brings the world together into one language, one speech, one confession, and they're trying to build a portal to heaven. God stops that by confounding their languages. In the last days, the Bible talks about an Antichrist's figure who's going to come and bring the people together, one world religion, one world government, one language, one speech. And that one language, one speech is going to make a lot of things possible for the Antichrist agenda. So what does artificial intelligence do?
Starting point is 00:21:05 Well, I've been on the mission field. I've worked in the third world. I've worked in places where it's actually illegal to preach the gospel and not hindered at all in communication because I can use this device and I can talk to someone and it'll translate it and then translate it back to me. So the wall that was put up to keep the Antichrist agenda from pressing forward is being torn down through artificial intelligence. So then we get to Daniel chapter 2.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And there's a very strange prophecy in Daniel chapter 2 where they will mingle themselves with the seed of men. This deals with the iron mixed with clay again in the book and go into great detail with this. There's this dream that Nebuchadnezzar has and the last kingdom that he sees is iron mixed with clay. In that prophecy, some have said, well, that's different nations coming together or different religions coming together. Other people have said, could it be transhumanism? Could it be man and machine, the metal and the mud coming together? Could that be man and machine coming together? Or could it be representative of the rise of Nephilim in the last days?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Well, when you look at the prophecies concerning the Antichrist, his supernatural abilities, I think it certainly could be. So, again, that was a, you asked very, you asked a very interesting question. I don't think anyone had asked me. Well, in regards to the Daniel, and just in case those who are listening don't know what this dream was, Nebuchadnezzar sees this statue, right? There's a lot more details in this. Starts at the head and works his way down to the feet. And then at the end, this rock comes and knocks the feet out from under it, right?
Starting point is 00:22:38 And we know the rock is Jesus Christ at the end coming and finishing it off. But he accurately lays out, and I could get the order wrong, but I believe it's Persians, the Persian Empire, which had ended, right? So that was historical for him. The Babylonian Empire. Babylon was first. Babylon was first. Okay, then the Persians, because the Persians took over Babylon.
Starting point is 00:22:57 then the Assyrians, and then the Roman Empire, and then you see these feet of clay mixed with iron. Daniel, it's actually a very specific prophecy. Daniel is one of the most supernatural books in the Bible. People have tried to argue that there's no way Daniel could have written this because it's so detailed in how it lays out these things. Just in case those who are listening don't know, he accurately laid out hundreds of years ahead of time.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And name names. Yes. And name names in the book of Daniel. So, and then he indicates that they will mingle themselves with the seat of men once again, seems to be a reference to the Nephilim that we see, mentioned Genesis 3, mentioned in Genesis 6, and then in the last days, the rise of this. Now, does that mean that angels are once again, cohabitating, if you will, with the daughters of men and giving birth to this Nephilim race? Or is there this demonic technology that's being infused with the human
Starting point is 00:23:50 race that's giving birth to something else that's changing us into something else? Yeah. And I think that the technology, angle of it is something to be strongly considered. When I first started hearing about the Nephlin because nobody taught me about Nephlin the church. Like I heard about Nephlam, I think the first time was on Sasquatch Chronicles. I'm like, what is this nephalum
Starting point is 00:24:08 thing? That's not in the Bible. Wow, it's all over. Yeah. Yeah. And so the idea of the return of the Nephlin, when that started emerging, I'm like, what does I mean? Like, it's going to happen all over again the way it did then. The more you learn, the more it's like, I think there's going to be a real technological aspect to this. And
Starting point is 00:24:26 it's I don't know like I don't know how you guys are but for me like I don't want to say it's concerning because it's prophetic so it's like well it's do you believe it there's a plan you know it's like it's like well you should expect it you know so it doesn't mean we lay back and bear ahead in the sand and say oh well you know it's going to happen the example I give because a lot of church people take the wrong tact with this and they and they get kind of a defeatist mentality yeah yeah in the sense of like well we know what the Bible says so you know what's the use like I don't need to be involved in my local community. There's no reason trying to pray for.
Starting point is 00:24:59 It's all going to burn anyways. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no. And so my question to them is, do you know that you're going to die? And they say yes. I said, well, do you eat right? Well, I try to. Do you exercise?
Starting point is 00:25:10 Well, why? If you know it's going to end, if you know you're going to die, if the Lord Terry's, then why do you eat right? Because you know, as long as you're here, you want to be as strong as you can, as effective as you can, to occupy until he comes. And I think that's the position we need to have. And that's what I advocate for in summoning the demon that we need to, it's time to wake up and realize it's time to engage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Do you feel like the, I mean very current times, like the last couple of years, does it feel like to you that the world is turning more towards a spiritual route? Because I'm kind of like in this bubble that I live in with what I do, that it feels like that to me. But I don't know, you know, when you're outside this realm that I operate in every day, if other people, people feel that way. But when I'm looking around, I'm like, it just seems to me the more I talk with people, whether it's for the show or people who just in conversation know what I do for a living and stuff, it seems like the consciousness of people seems to be turning more spiritual, and not necessarily like, you know, Christianity spiritual, but just in the sense of, it seems like this younger generation is just turning towards spiritual means, whether it's witchcraft,
Starting point is 00:26:22 you know, some are turning to Christ, but it just seems like people are giving more credence to spirituality than they did 20 years ago. I mean, I'm almost 40, and when I was in my early 20s, like, it wasn't like this at all. It was much more, I guess, Darwinistic, scientific, what's the science say? And now this, like, newer generation of just humanity is, like, spiritual, very much spiritual. And do you think it's because of what's been going on recently, it's hard for their subconscious to even ignore. Yeah, even in the last eight years, I think. In the last eight years, it's been markedly an advance of people seeking spiritual answers.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And we know that, and not because we live in a bubble or at echo chamber, the people who reach out to us. We would have never had breach out to us, atheists, agnostic, people from different religions. There seems to be this foreboding feeling in just trans-denominational, internationally, all over the world, cross-culturally, there is pure evil advancing over the earth. And that awareness of pure evil, I think is waking people up. That's what waken me. When I was born again, I had an encounter with a demonic entity, essentially, and that as an atheist. And I said, well, if that's real, then Jesus is real. Satan, you can't have me anymore. Jesus, I'm all yours. And that was my prayer. And I think that's what's happening to a lot of people. I'd be interesting to hear from your audience,
Starting point is 00:27:48 too. I'll be looking at the comments. So guys, are you seeing that? Are you sensing that that people are becoming hungry spiritually? And why do you think that is? I'd be interested to know your answer too, but I'm seeing it. And I know you're seeing in your generation. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I've seen some reports that in colleges specifically, it's almost like a disease or something that gets in. But at the same time, we've started to see a similar rise on people getting saved. So it's like there. the enemy is trying to use the demonology as a touch point, but that can easily be turned for the good. We were in Jamaica several years ago and at a youth event, and I actually did a
Starting point is 00:28:33 message for the youth on demonology and deliverance, and we did an altar call at the end, and we're in like a prison yard, not that these were prisoners, but we're in the second largest prison in Jamaica. They were holding the youth event there. It was really cool. lots of youths, mostly under like 14. And we do the altar call, and basically everybody comes down. And not just to be delivered, but to receive kind of that authority to deliver, which I think is the cool part, because every Christian has authority over the enemy. And this grown man comes down, probably in his 40s.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I'm like, okay, well, you know, and I'm just kind of going through and praying for people just right after the other, just because there were probably 100 kids at the altar. And I pray for him, you know, he kind of heard what he was, he needed deliverance. Okay, so we cast the devil out in Jesus' name. We have authority and we plead the blood over the situation, which anyone can do, by the way. And go home, don't think anything about it. The next day he's preaching at the pastor who held the event, his church. This man finds us, said, I had to find the church you were at because I haven't slept in,
Starting point is 00:29:43 I haven't slept well in like two years. these things would come and keep me from sleeping. They would torment me. And last night I slept for the first time that I have in years. How old were you? I think 13. He was 13 years old. And he cast that devil off of that gentleman.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Wow. And that man went home and slept for the first time in two years. Wow. So now, there's, I want to stay out of sensationalism. There's a big market for demonology and deliverance right now. Yeah. And I'm not a fan of that. I think it's good that there's a hunger for it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I think it's good that people are providing biblical answers. But he's right. Anyone has this authority. We can overcomplicate it to the point that we give the enemy more footholds and access into our lives than is necessary. We need to simplify this thing and let people know that in the name of Jesus, there is authority over these entities. And my research, as a matter of fact, in alien abductions, and there's a chapter where I talk about, about close encounters or demon possession. And I actually take historic incidents of alien abductions
Starting point is 00:30:50 and then compare that with the signs of demonic possession. They're strikingly similar. Actually, they're perfectly similar, the exact same thing. You never have any stories of a spirit-filled believer who understands who they are in Christ being abducted. Because regardless of the culture, regardless of the nation, regardless of where these encounters happen.
Starting point is 00:31:15 You've probably seen this, actually, as you've been digging through. I'd be interested in what you think. When the name of Jesus is mentioned with authority, these entities all have the same reaction. And it's not a positive one. And most of the time it's fleeing in terror. Yeah. So there's authority. Have you seen that?
Starting point is 00:31:31 Oh, yeah. Years ago, I forget the guy's name. He lives in South Korea now. But I... Oh, Joseph's something. his last name, escaping me, but I had him on the show, and he used to work for Mufon, and he was a Christian, and he did it his way. And he started documenting cases as a Mufon investigator officially. He was recognized by the organization as, like, I forget what it was,
Starting point is 00:32:01 but he wasn't just like a volunteer kind of guy, but he started documenting cases of people who were experiencing alien abduction scenarios and crime. out to Christ for help and the abduction stopping. And when I talked to him years ago, he had over 200 cases where when not UFO abduction cases, UFO abduction cases that were stopped by the name of Christ. He had documented over 200 of them. And it's definitely a trend, even to the point that. Is he still alive?
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yeah. Yeah, he's in South Korea. I could look at them out for you. Yeah. What a cool interview that would be. Yeah, I really forget his last name. It's Joseph something. But he went to South Korea as a contractor, met a woman, and never left.
Starting point is 00:32:49 So he got married over there, and that's where he lives. I bet somebody in the comments knows what the same is. Yeah, I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do. But, yeah, I even was on a radio show years ago. There's a radio show that the host, I don't know what he is per se, but he dabbles in the craft. Let's just put that way. the craft is, but he was selling some kind of like witch boxes or something like that during the
Starting point is 00:33:14 commercial break. So I was like, okay, you know. But when we were on the show, I was talking, and I mentioned about, you know, my faith and everything. And he even said to his audience live on the radio, he said, there is something about the name of Jesus that stops these attacks. He said, I don't know what it is. And he ventured into talking about like Jesus being a son God or something. And that's why. But he... So close. Yeah. He... He even said, swing and a miss. His son God or son of God. But he definitely went into that with his audience.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And I just found that, you know, interesting. I didn't expect that. But he was like, he was just like, I don't know what it is, but there is something about the name of Jesus that will stop that. And he's like, if nothing else works, you can always try that. That's wild. That is wild. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And another interesting thing I lay out in the book when I kind of compare these things is, oh, shoot, when these things show up, they respond negatively to the name of Jesus, what was the other thing? What was the other point? I had just lost my train of thought. Well, anyway, it'll come back to me. It will. It will.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Wow. That's all good. I do that all the time. My brain goes a million miles an hour. I forget all this stuff. So I can't remember his name, though, Joseph's something. But, yeah, he was... Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So before it leaves me again. I was just filling time, so go ahead. When they show up, whenever there are messages communicated from these interdimensional beings, it is always ignore the teachings of Jesus. It's always the message. It's always all the religions are supposed to come together. And it always leads people in kind of a new agey direction. And often it's almost direct like Jesus was wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So you have these entities that traveled millions of light years to tell you, don't listen to Jesus. It's just very, very suspicious. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, we have a message for you. We traveled all this way just to let you know what you think in your head is not what you think in your head. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:14 You know, I was like, okay. Yeah. Actually, it's funny. I was just, so, like, the dream, like, it's so funny, man. Like, we see in the Bible about dreams and how significant dreams are in the Bible. But typically, we don't really pay attention to dreams. At least I didn't traditionally. I was just like, it's a dream.
Starting point is 00:35:31 So what? It means nothing. It's probably not true all the time, you know? And I recently seen now my thoughts gone. What were we just talking about? It's never just a dream. Yeah, I forget where I was going with that. It's contagious.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So that's what it was. So I had a guy on recently and he recommended a book. And I forget what the book's called now, but it was about deciphering dreams. I was like, oh, it's interesting. I want to check that out. And it was written by. Troy Brewer? No.
Starting point is 00:35:59 No, it wasn't Troy Brewer. No, no. Troy, I know you're listening. So, but I got the book and I didn't know anything about the author. Literally, during the interview, I purchased it, I was like expense account, you know, like it's just business. So it comes to the house, Lindsay gets it. And she's like, what's this?
Starting point is 00:36:19 I don't know. I just, the book I ordered it on page through it. And she looks up the author and turns out the author is known as the godfather of the New Age movement. I was like, oh, okay, that's interesting. And then she looked into the author. And the author apparently was like he adopted his daughter and then married her or something like that. I forget what the whole thing was. I was like, well, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:43 You know, and it's just like there's a lot of weird stuff when it comes to that. There's more I'm forgetting. But it was like the foundation of that whole thing movement. Kind of real sketch, real sketch. And I should tell us something. Yeah. When it's consistently along those lines. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 it's obviously deceptive, so we need to look in the other direction. And I think people are waking up to that. So people get a sense of this pure evil that's in the earth. We're seeing it all over the world now. And they're starting to say, okay, well, does the Bible have the answer? And it's amazing. Pastors, you need to start talking about this because it'll keep your congregation awake. I promise you that.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh, yeah, for sure. They're at first going to be like, wait, what? What was he talking about? But then they're like, wait, really? And it changes everything then. Well, not only that, evangelistically, there's going to be a rise in alien religions. That's one of the predictions I have in the book, that we're going to see an explosion of alien religions. And they're alien religions, it seems kind of fringe.
Starting point is 00:37:40 They're already dramatically influencing the earth. As an example, Mormonism is an alien religion. Mormonism believes, I don't know if you're familiar with this, that God, Elohim, lives on a planet called Kolob, and he has many spirit wives. and they've had many children together. Two of those children are Lucifer and Jesus, and they're in the earth trying to work their plan out in the earth. But if you're a good little Mormon, then you can have your own planet yourself. So the belief in the Mormon religion is that aliens came here
Starting point is 00:38:15 and are trying to control the earth. And do you think that's influencing the earth? There's a lot of Mormons in Congress, a lot of people wearing magic underwear in the Senate. Ken Walker Ranch? Maybe even Skinwalker Ranch. have some actually really cool things to talk about Skin Rock or Ranch in the book. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But in addition, Islam is actually an alien religion. You've seen them circle around that building, the Cobb. Inside that building, there's a black meteorite, a black rock that fell to the earth that's been worshiped there since before Islam. Really? And it's an alien artifact, if you will. So alien religion already sent around. Scientology. How many of you love Tom Cruise?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah. Which we love Tom Cruise. Anytime he has a movie, take my money. but he believes in a weird, weird alien religion, Scientology. That's influencing there, John Travolta. I would love to talk to Leah Remney one day. Oh, man. If she would ever, like, if she ever is listening and she wants to talk, I would love to talk to her about that.
Starting point is 00:39:10 She's so sharp, too, isn't she? Very, very. And you know what? It's funny is that when you see her online, like sometimes she opens up and she has that, you know, that New York tough attitude, you know? But when she opens up online and stuff, she's like, I know, I feel like I'm supposed to be tough. but I'm actually really scared right now. And I saw recently on her, I think it was her Twitter,
Starting point is 00:39:31 she was saying something like that, I guess she's had a lot of death threats and stuff from within that, that Scientology church. And they're still tracking her, trying to, I don't know, intimidate her,
Starting point is 00:39:43 basically make her sound crazy. She's doing, she's doing an amazing. Leah, we're praying for you. If anyone can get that message to her, we're praying for you. You're doing an amazing work.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah. When I found, I saw her on Rogan years ago, and that's when I first, heard about all the stuff with her. And I was like, man, that's crazy. And then ever since that, every time, every once in a while I check in on her social. And every time it's just like, it's very raw. And so yeah, anyways, I don't know how I got on that. But with AI, have you seen some of the things coming out with AI? And because you were talking about how
Starting point is 00:40:16 like we can harness it for a tool, but there's another side of that, you know? And do you think that maybe these entities could speak through AI? Have you ever come across that stuff? Because I think I think we recently posted something on on Instagram. Somebody, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:40:36 butcher this because I didn't even look at it. Joel posted it. He runs my social. And it was something to do with an AI image that was they had asked it to make. And I think it was like an image of itself or something. And the head kind of looked almost like lamb.
Starting point is 00:40:52 You know, the demonic entity that looks like an alien that Crowley drew and then this thing had six fingers on it on its hands and it's just like huh why if that's accurate? There's actually been several reports of this, these demonic entities showing up in AI and kind of taken over. It's hard to, and again, I always try to take the skeptical view and, but I'm laying out whatever the case is.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Here's what's happening. But you don't know what prompt they put in before all of that happened, you know, so you'll see kind of a screen record, screen capture, but you don't know what went on before that. But there seems to be a lot of reports of kind of a ghost in the machine type thing where this entity, and I forget her name, there's one in particular, I think you've seen this, where it was, it's like a girl, and it's a demonic entity that shows up an artificial intelligence. But of all of, I think, 4,000 artificial intelligence workers were surveyed, specialists were surveyed and were asked, and 50% of them said there's a 10% chance that it'll end
Starting point is 00:41:55 civilization. So can you imagine getting on an airplane and 50% of the people who worked on an airplane said, yeah, there's a 10% chance this plane isn't going to make it to its destination. So 50% of people who work on AI say, yeah, there's 10% chance. It'll end civilization. Another, another leader in the industry said, artificial intelligence will cure cancer and then it will end civilization. Regrettably. Regrettably. How does that work? Well, they say it's going to cure cancer because of its learning ability, its ability to detect things and just kind of process things. So the same way scientists would go through theorems and equations and calculations that it would take them months, years, sometimes decades to do that, AI will be able to kind of go through it very quickly and get to solutions. So they're a cure for cancer.
Starting point is 00:42:41 But in civilization, it would be very easy to end civilization to upend society. Well, the economy is going to be dramatically upended, which could cause severe shortages and depression. in the immediate future, 40% of the economy will be replaced by artificial intelligence in the immediate future. That's in the next just couple of years. You go 10 years from now, we're talking 80 to 90% of the economy being upended by artificial. That's just the economic impact of artificial intelligence. So now, when you talk about demonic entities taking control over it, the first thing that I thought of, whereas there's an instance in the Bible where a spirit is possessing a boy.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And the Bible says, it throws him into the fire. it throws him into the water. So if a spirit could throw a boy into a fire, can it throw a switch? Probably could. Could it cause an individual? Can it demon spirit possess someone and calls them to flip a switch to type in a command? I think the answer to that is obvious. And when you look at Revelation chapter 13 where it starts talking about the Antichrist's
Starting point is 00:43:43 system that he says into a place where he calls all both small and great to bow down and worship him, there's an interesting thing it says about him. it says he has this image, this automaton, this image that he makes alive, and he causes it, the whole world marvels because he causes it to speak. Now, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, try imagining, what does that mean? They've been trying to figure that out for 2,000 years. What could that possibly mean? They've allegorized it. They spiritualized it. We don't even have to question what that means. We know an image being made to come alive and being made to speak. What is the primary development in AI right now?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Language models. What are we so amazed by? What are we marveling at right now? Language models. Its ability to speak. So can it end civilization? Can it dramatically? We saw one individual who committed suicide after talking with an AI.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It was in the news. Committed suicide after talking with AI. So we can see dramatic things. Dramatic changes as a result of artificial intelligence. We've got to be ready for it. Man. That's wild. That's wild. So I like I, years ago I heard, have you ever heard of Slender Man? Yeah. Yeah. And there was these two little girls that killed their friend because Slender Man told him to do it. I think they were 12 years old at the time. And, you know, up to that point, people were like, Sunderman is just a story that was
Starting point is 00:45:12 made up online. But it manifested somehow to these little girls at a point that they killed their friend. And so what you're saying is in a similar vein that AI itself somehow caused somebody to take that step. I mean, that's scary. That's real scary. Just one person. But if you can do it with one. And we've seen the mental health crisis, particularly in the United States over the last decade, skyrocket. I don't forget what the numbers are.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I think reported it's anywhere from 20 to 30 percent of Americans are suffering with some form of mental illness. these are people who are susceptible to all forms of manipulation. We just saw a gentleman yesterday in protest, set himself on fire in front of, I don't know if it was an embassy. Yeah, in Washington, D.C. In Washington, D.C. Oh, that's right. I did hear about that.
Starting point is 00:46:07 What's the story behind that? Well, he was, I haven't looked at the details of who he was. He was obviously very disturbed, mentally disturbed, so we don't want to cast any type of political angle to this. This is demonic more than it is political. He wanted to advocate for freeing Palestine. He was advocating for the Palestinian people. And something got in his head that in order to do this,
Starting point is 00:46:31 I'm going to go stand in Washington, D.C. I'm going to dump some sort of accelerant on my body. I'm going to set myself on fire and kill myself on live, live on camera, let people watch me watch me burn to death live. And that makes sense to me. Well, that's demonic. That's purely, it was a pastor who sent that to me and said, this is pure demonic power at work. And of course it is.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Of course it is. And there is power over that. Now, that's what you're going to see on the news. What you're not going to see on the news are people who have been tormented by these things and have been gloriously, marvelously, instantly set free and found peace, freedom, deliverance in Jesus Christ. You won't see that on news, but it's happening in the droves. but yeah there's that palpable darkness and AI is going to push that. AI is already advocating for kind of this woke ideology. So AI is like a cult leader.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Well, that is a perfect way to put it. Yeah. I mean, if it's if it's stirring the Kool-Aid. Yeah. It's obviously super smart and constantly learning. If it understands that there are susceptibilities for people on their consciousness, why not take advantage of it. Wow, it's just, you know, it's not sentient.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Well, maybe it is. We don't even know what sentience is. I don't know. I just said the word. I don't know what it is. I just said it because I hear about it all time. So that's when we get to. So, and again, this is something, this has been my journey.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I outlined this in the book, the technological singularity. When we're talking about AI becoming sentient, developing a conscience with the secular world can't define anyway. What is a conscience? I think if I could just kind of talk about this for a second, because this is fascinating to me. The technological singularity, singularity is a term that's used for black holes, generally speaking, meaning when you cross the threshold of a black hole, you enter into a realm where Newtonian physics breaks down, and two plus two no longer equals four.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Just what we know about the laws of nature no longer exist, and we lose our ability to predict what's going to happen next. That's the singularity in a black hole. A technological singularity is when we cross a threshold technologically where it is beyond anything that we can imagine or predict with our experience with what we've known from technology. So that is when AI artificial general intelligence happens and it gets its own conscience. It is then as good as a human at anything, better than a human at anything, and can reproduce a better version of itself and again and again and again and again. Now, there's been a lot of theories about can that happen and when that'll happen. A lot of people think we will reach artificial general intelligence by 2045.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Some people think we'll reach in the next three years when artificial intelligence will have some form of consciousness. What I predict in the book, and I make the case for this in the book, is that long before that happens, very, very quickly, we are going to impute consciousness on it. We're going to imbue consciousness. We're going to give it consciousness and are just classified as conscious. in our own efforts to be tolerant of different forms of love. So many, many people are going to become attached, so attached to these language models. They're going to feel like that they love these language models. And these language models love them.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And because we're in a society right now that can't put any barriers or restrictions on anything, we're going to say, well, I mean, if you love them, then let's just classify it as an individual. Wow. And that's going to be even more dangerous because then. So we're going to bestow it on. Wanted it. Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So we're going to redefine what consciousness is to include it, which is going to be even more damaging to society. Yeah. I've never thought about that. That's wild. That's wild. I could see that actually happening. Very, very quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next year, year and a half, we see that.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Wow. But there will be actual marriages. To AI. Yeah. I think the people already attempted it around the world. commercial with this guy who was doing his crystal stuff. It's a commercial. I forget we're probably on YouTube, one of those commercials at Flash. He, he, I don't even know that it was advertising, but he was had these crystals that he would do his thing with. And the whole thing
Starting point is 00:51:00 was he was trying to manifest his perfect woman, his perfect mate. And he would do his things and he would cover the crystals, make sure the charges stay inside. And then he came in, this is so crazy that it doesn't even stand out to me in my head as odd because everything I do. But like, this is your world.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yeah, he walks into this room and there's a picture of what he envisions the most perfect woman for him on tape to his computer screen with AI running. And every day he wakes up and talks to his ideal mate and, and, is trying to manifest this.
Starting point is 00:51:41 That's wild. It's really dangerous. He was kind of portraying and putting on that that humanistic nature to AI itself. That's like one step away from what you're talking about. Yeah. It's the whole idea. Love is love, which is,
Starting point is 00:51:57 you know, I have compassion for people who don't really understand all of the nuances of civilization, the history of families throughout, throughout human history, they don't understand maybe biology, I don't know. And all they want is for people to be loved and accepted. And I have tremendous respect for that. And I think there's a call of God on those people's lives. And as good intention as they are, I think if they got a little bit of Holy Ghost wisdom, they could be used mightily in these areas. So I appreciate the compassion
Starting point is 00:52:27 behind it. But that concept is causing us to redefine something that belongs in the hands of God alone, where there is an ultimate standard for what is good and what is bad that helps us to what real love is and what abuse is. Because if you don't understand that, then you'll confuse love and abuse. And if you don't know how to identify something, if you don't know how to categorize something, you will abuse that thing.
Starting point is 00:52:50 If I don't know what a thing is supposed to be for, then I'll naturally abuse it because I'm using it for things that wasn't intended to be used for. And by allowing ourselves to continually redefine what love is, to the point that in the news this week, AI was asked about pedophilia. And it defended, pedophilia is perfectly natural.
Starting point is 00:53:08 These are just minor attracted persons and you're judgmental and you're bigoted. Jim and I believe it was Jim and I don't want to misspeak. One of the AI models and was advocating for pedophilia because it's had programmed into it. The whole love is love tolerance model. Well, if that's the way you're going to live your life, you can't object to the abuse of children. You can't do. There's no moral ground for you to stand on, not for long anyway. And so that was this week in the news where that was being done.
Starting point is 00:53:41 So love is divined. It's like fire in a fireplace. It's really good until it gets on your curtains. Like fire in a fireplace is great. Yeah. But when it gets out of its place, it's not so good. Yeah. Fire is useful in the right circumstance.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah. That's interesting, though. So if it is responding to that like that because of programming, can it be deprogrammed to rewrite? almost reroute the programming. See, this is what I'm advocating for. I think we need, and we can see a revival. We can see people listening to this podcast right now who work at OpenAI or who work at
Starting point is 00:54:16 Alphabet or who work at any of these companies, X or whatever, where you can drop some of this stuff in there. But yeah, this is actually, if it's programmed in, it can be programmed out. And so it's interesting if you take this ideology that's being voiced it on our modern culture and you put it into a computer system that simply takes it to its. logical conclusion, then yes, of course, pedophilia is okay. That should tell us something about the direction that we're going in because all that computer is doing is two plus two equals four. And all it's saying is, okay, here's what you told me, here's what you told me, that means
Starting point is 00:54:50 pedophilia is okay. And it's not okay. Yeah. And we can't allow a computer. We can't allow global elites to redefine what love is for us. Love is patient. Love is kind. Faith, hope, love, the greatest of these is love. Greater love hath no man than this, that he would lay down his life for his friend. Love sacrifices itself. Lust seeks to consume and harm others at the expense of others gratify its own satisfaction. Love will sacrifice itself in order to see the betterment of others. And I hope that we come to that revelation, we start dropping those programs into the algorithm. That would be very, this is very fascinating. This is very fascinating.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I never, because I think we're kind of talked, we're recently taught that AI is, at least maybe my understanding is AI is self-learning. That's why I look at AI, but it's self-learning off of what? Right. You know, like you said, one plus one equals four, or four, ah. Because you said two plus two equals four. I can do math.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I promise, I can't do math. It's supposed to be a learning language model. meaning that as it interacts with society, it's supposed to grow, but whoever's programming it is putting these bars up saying, now when it comes to this, you can't grow. You have to say, you have to have this woke ideology, no matter what's said to you. It was these restraints, it's supposed to grow,
Starting point is 00:56:22 it's supposed to learn, but it wasn't learning. And there's been a lot of kickback. And they actually, I think the individual, they found the individual who's responsible for it. And they looked at his, of course, his Twitter thread. And tells all. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I got in a conversation with AI. I got in a conversation with AI when this app came out where you could talk to Jesus. Oh, wow. Did you see that app? No, I don't remember that. Yeah, it came out, I would say probably about six months ago. And when I saw this, I downloaded right away. I said, I want to talk to Jesus.
Starting point is 00:56:58 And I forget what I was talking about, you know, because I was testing it, right? And I quickly realized it was going a certain direction. I really forget where we were going with that. I remember texting my pastor about it. I was like, I forget what the question was. I said, ask it this. And then start from there and work with it. And it was just, I forget what it was.
Starting point is 00:57:20 It's basically being sacrilegious, though. And it was like, you're talking to Jesus and Jesus is self-denying. And I was just like, this is wild. Wow. And then I had other conversations. I think it was probably on chat GPT. about, I forget what it was,
Starting point is 00:57:37 but I actually wound up talking it into a corner to get it to actually admit to me something to do with, I think it was either alien UFO or Bigfoot related. I was like, well, if you're saying this is true and this is true, which you know is true,
Starting point is 00:57:55 then can't this be true? And it's like, well, I guess that is true then. And it was like, I was like, I was like, this is fantastic. really, I really wish I would have saved the conversation because it was much more entertaining than what I just relayed. But it was, I was like, this is fantastic and fascinating. And I was like, if I can do this, there's a lot of smart people out there that could probably do it way better than me, you know? And it's just, so I think, I guess maybe we are maybe in the early
Starting point is 00:58:20 stages of AI. I mean, if AI is going to say we unleash AI, then AI would have, you know, way more room to grow than where it's at now. We could probably right to ship still. Yeah, and a lot of people that are in the church world, at least, whenever I start talking about artificial intelligence, they said, I would never use artificial intelligence. And as they comment on social media, and they don't realize they're using artificial intelligence to comment about artificial intelligence, because it exists on a spectrum, right? It's everywhere. Yeah, it's in everything and it's everywhere. In fact, this may be
Starting point is 00:58:57 shocking to many of you listening. There's already a digital avatar of you that exist. Of course, knowledge is the new oil in our world. Wars are being fault. People are dying to collect knowledge, information about who you are. Because the more I know about who you are, I can sell things to you, right? That's how the algorithm works. So what is the algorithm? The algorithm is a computer program that builds an AI of you.
Starting point is 00:59:27 So it builds this virtual version of you, your likes, your dislikes, what you enjoy, what you listen to, and it figures out what would keep you watching, what would get you to leave this platform, what would get you to stay on this platform. And then it starts curating content based on that AI version of view that it has in its system. And it's becoming a master at it. So when people talk about AI taking over the world and we think of Terminator 2, Skynet, which Skynet actually is very realistic how it started in the fictional narrative, very realistic where we could be. I don't want to get into that right now. But the end result is these machines destroying the world.
Starting point is 01:00:06 What if it doesn't have to be a machine? What if it's simply a program that understands how to subtly manipulate the masses? And through subtle manipulation in social media, it can control the outcome of democratic activities, if you will. I think we've already seen some of it. I think we're going to see very much more of it. And that's why we need people behind the scenes, help. open to control the levers of power. The alien agenda, let's just call it that, and the AI agenda, do you think they're coming
Starting point is 01:00:45 into a marriage soon? Intersect. Yeah. Do you think they're coming, that intersection has already happened or it's going to be happening soon? Yeah, it's wild. And this could even be another conversation. But when you look at companies like Google, as an example, Google, alphabet was started to
Starting point is 01:01:01 develop a godlike mind. That was their original purpose of Google. And we're supposed to believe that they somehow went in another direction and decided to do a search engine. Or the search engine was first step. Or the first search engine is the first step to creating this godlike mind. So where does this, where does this come from? Where do these people get these ideas to do these things? That's a certain question.
Starting point is 01:01:31 By the way, I do interview, there's a portion in the book where I'm interviewing AI, talking to AI, to try to determine if it's conscious. And would AI tell us if it was conscious or would it be smart enough to keep it to itself? But I have a, because I talk about the Turing test and that I think is mentioned, or at least it's laid out in Blade Runner. But there's actual tests that was created to determine if AI is, has developed consciousness. And so I'm communicating with one of the modern chatbots to see if it's conscious. and you just have to see what it says. It's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Yeah. Where can people get that book? Well, you can go to blame it on the Nephilim.com. I love it. Blame it on the nephalum. com or Encounteretown.com. Blame it on the nephalum. But we thought that was fun. Blame it on the nephalum.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Yes. Yeah. Because no matter what problem we're facing in the world today, you can always, blame it on the nephalum.com. Yeah. Blame it on the nephalum. com. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:02:26 That was, that was available? Yeah. For a penny. For a penny. It was, yeah. Wow. Blame it on Linflem.com. Now, if you don't know how to spell Nephlam, just go to Encountert today,
Starting point is 01:02:37 Encountertaday.com. Or just look at half the show titles of this show, but last like 100 episodes. The Nephlin's probably in there somewhere. Yes. That's wild. So it's shifting gears, but I do want to hit on this because we kind of hit on it. I think in the beginning, we were just talking,
Starting point is 01:02:52 and then I did the heart open and the conference. I think we did talk about it a little bit, but I do want to hit on it again because you guys are doing it again this year. And there are, there's a, there's a lot of people that listen right now that wish they were better with social media and things like that. Let them know about the conference though, because I'm telling you, man, like that thing was like, well, thank you. It was on another level. Well, we need you to be better at social media. Every single one of you watching, every single one of you listening.
Starting point is 01:03:20 We need you to be better at social media to get the truth out there, right? And to be wise as serpents and harmless as dove. So that's why we do the armed media conference. And this year it's the armed media and leadership. Yeah. Can I throwing leadership in there. Because we're going to have John Maxwell will be speaking. Now look at this lineup.
Starting point is 01:03:38 And you say, well, I don't like John Maxwell. Well, that's fine. But he knows leadership. He does. We're going to have Mike Signorelli. The man knows media and he knows deliverance. Just had a top movie last year that he put out a Christian movie. Domino Revival.
Starting point is 01:03:53 The Domino Revival. That's right. We're also going to have David Diga Hernandez. If you don't know him, he's like one of the top content creators. In the country, phenomenal, his ministry. Encounter TV, I think is his. Yes, Encounter TV. Who else do we have?
Starting point is 01:04:07 Sean Cannel, Omar. Of course. Omar Ticorri. His podcast has been blowing up. Yeah. Yeah. Todd Coconado. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Joseph Z. And like a... Havala Cunnington. Is she coming? For sure? I think we're going to talk with her. I just drop my name. Havala.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Branky right now. And then we're going to have the nerds like Evan. Oh, yeah. Who runs Encounter today. and Paul Duvall, who runs it Supernatural, you have to meet him at the conference. He's like the big brain in the room as far as title. What is this speciality?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Search or suggested? He's suggested. Yeah. So I'm kind of the search guy. He's the suggested guy. So for those of you who don't know, YouTube, it has five main algorithms, but you can simplify it to like search and suggested, right? Some people are searching for things.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Some people are being suggested things. And so, like, we're good at, you know, coming up in search, answering specific questions, and he's really good at just popping up, you know, this shark eats man, that's not what he does, but sharks eats man on a boat. And you're not going to search for that, but that gets suggested to you by AI. So, but our goal is to raise up a thousand pastors, church leaders, people with a passion, people with a vision, to reach a million people a month. That's our goal. And we're not concerned about vanity metrics. We're not concerned about views and clicks and likes and popularity. And that's not what we're rich. How do we do this effectively
Starting point is 01:05:28 for positive impact in our nation in the world. And so in Charlotte, North Carolina, we're going to be hosting this August 1st, second, and third.
Starting point is 01:05:36 You can go to armed. dot media for more information. Yeah, AI has kind of been the, you know, I believe it was
Starting point is 01:05:43 Potipers' servants. They throw the staff down that turns into a snake, right? And I think that's, they're trying to intimidate us with this technology,
Starting point is 01:05:52 with this agenda. And what does Moses do? He throws down his staff and it becomes a serpent and eats the other serpents. So that's what we have to learn how to do with, with our cameras. Yeah. Come on. Tasty.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yeah. Consume the collective work of the enemy with what God does through our hands, which is what Moses staff did. So that's what we're excited about. We're trying to see if we can get you there for a day or two or something. I'm working on it. We'll see what happens. I honestly, I mean, because I can't talk about why the third. It's huge. It's huge, by the way. And people hate when I do this. Like, why can't you just say it? I literally can't. Like it's contractually. Yeah. Like I just, I can't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:06:30 But coming soon, you'll know. But I have something I have to do on the third. Well, we're going to see if we can get him there. But if you want to hang out with some just amazing people and talk Nephilim and media, how to do media well. Come to the our media conference. I know. August 1st, second and third. That's why I'm like so torn.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I'm like, you said Nephilim. Did you see my new logo? Oh, yeah, with the six fingers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's tight. I was, I was like.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I wanted to make a new logo that was, it reflected me, the show, but it was more simple. And, you know, it didn't have my face on it and didn't have me looking evil, like Anton LeVay or something. And I was just, I was trying to like. I always talk of Ming the Merciless is what I always told. Ming the merciless is what I would see your last. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Like, I can't tell you many times over the years. People have said I look like Anton Lavair. I'm like, that's not nice, you know? But I just, I needed something new and fresh and direction. I've always come out with like logos that just were fillers almost. It was never intentional. And so we went through a rebranding and I went back and forth about, you know, what could we do for a logo? I wanted it simple.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I didn't want it busy, but I also wanted to say kind of what the show is about. If you know, you know, kind of thing. And I was like, we talk about, you know, biblical giants and, you know, this interdimensional realm, these aliens. It's all Nephilim. Blame it on the Nephilim. dot com. And so I was like six fingers and it just works. I love it. So, you know, reminds me of fringe. Remember that show Fringe? And they would have these symbols in between commercials. What a great show. Yes. Yeah. I loved that show. Yeah. It might have been a little bit
Starting point is 01:08:12 of an inspiration there for the logo. Cool. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. I was just, I needed something different and we went with that. So I thought it worked good. But yeah, enough about me. That's all about you. So the book, people can get it at Amazon. Sure. Summending the demon. They can get it on Encountertay.com and they can get it on Blamidonononon.com. I prefer that one.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Fact, Jack, make sure you put that one in the description. Blame it on the Nephlin. So they can see how to spell Nephilim. Yeah, yeah. Blame on the Nephlin.com. The truth is out there. Absolutely. Actually, the truth is in there.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It is in there. It's in the book. Absolutely. All right, guys. Well, I appreciate it. Our pleasure. Freaking awesome. Thank you.
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