The Confessionals - RELOADED | 90: From The Ouija Board, The Spirits Come

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

On Episode 90, our guest Molly shares a number of paranormal events in her life, including stories of the haunted house she grew up in, some interesting occurrences with a ouija board, and her experiences in the famously haunted city of New Orleans, Louisiana.Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

Merkel Media I guess it's time to go back in time Are you telling me you built a time machine Out of a Dolorean Time is but a stubborn illusion

I have a lot of memories Of the past People are time traveling Within themselves Time travel Is possible This was all circulating around the base that a giant had been killed

but no one was supposed to talk about it. He jump underneath the door, curl up to grab it, and then disappear. When he came over to me, dude, he slithered over to me. And this giant comes out of the cave and they're all frozen. And he starts running and firing at this giant.

With a giant move, he's got a spear in one hand and he's running really fast. And spears, Dan, holds him up like this. Somebody else. Shoot him in the face. Shoot him in the face. They basically decapitated. Closer, got closer, got closer, got closer. When he got about 15 yards away from me, blow this head off. I feel something pulling at my leg.

And I look over, and there are two small gray entities pulling it. And they're literally, I'm getting pulled off the bed. I reached my hand into this bush, and I touch air. Couldn't breathe, and it couldn't move. Because I know I'm seeing it. A monster. Okay, I reload it. Yep.

Welcome to the show, everybody. You're listening to The Confessionals. I am your host, Tony Merkel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or a story you'd like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. Or go to the website, the Confessionalspodcast.com, hit the connection section, and you can reach me that way as well.

Either way it works for me, just get a hold of me. Now, tonight we're bringing on Molly, and Molly has some Ouichie board experiences and also some experiences in New Orleans. So I really look forward to this interview with Molly. Let's get to it right now. All right, tonight we have a great guest coming on. We have Molly. Molly, how you doing?

Hey, I'm great. Great, great. So you contacted me a few months ago, and you have some different stories here that you'd like to talk about. First of all, I guess we're going to actually really focus a lot on a haunted house that you're currently living in with your family. And it's funny that this haunted house kind of brought out some family stories through this show. I should say this show brought out some family stories through

this haunted house because you hadn't talked to your family about it really until you started talking to them about the show and stuff and then they started sharing with you some experiences that you had in that house. Is that right? Yep. That's my, actually my child's at home. I don't actually live there, but my parents still live there. So if anything ever happens, they tell me about it or they keep telling me more about any little thing that happens there. So got you. I just find interesting how, you know, this show, you start talking, you start talking your family about the show and this all came out and you just didn't know half the things that your family has experienced because nobody just really talked about it. So that's pretty cool. We'll dive into that tonight. But you also

have a Ouija board story and also a New Orleans story, which is always fun to talk about in New Orleans because there's a lot of crazy stuff that goes on down there. So why don't we just kind of start off with the house? And I know the Ouija board story kind of plays into the house experience. So what was this house like? You know, just kind of start talking us about your experiences there. Okay. So I live in Arizona. So I live in the suburbs and it's just like it's a really normal looking, um, just little house. Like you would never expect anything to happen there or anything haunted. But every time somebody would come into our house, they would tell us that they had a weird feeling. Like the house just came off with your advice.

And we never really noticed it just because, you know, we're in there all the time until little things started happening to us. I remember one day, me and my mom and my sister, we were at the mall, and then a psychic came up to us and was telling us that, you know, you're going to do a lot of bad things right now, and it's because of your house. Like, can I come to your house and bless it. So she actually came to our house, and she, We looked around, she told us that she had some bad vibes, that she really needs to bless her house.

But then she asked us for money. And we were just like, okay, this is probably BS. So we kind of ignored it until more stuff started happening. And so just some little things that would happen like to me and my friends or me and my sister. For example, one day we were leaving the house and we had this radio in the house that is connected to like house, the speakers around the house and it all of a sudden it turned on and this is like a really old school speaker I mean old school radio so it's just it is just hard to believe that something like that would turn on by itself but it happens so I remember we ran into the house and turned it back

off and then we ran out again and we kind of ignored it was just like maybe something electrical so you know don't think of it too much but then I remember another instance where me and my friends are sitting in the kitchen and there was a cup on our island in the kitchen and then we're sitting there. We're actually talking about spirits and stuff and all of a sudden the cup moved. Like it just moves maybe four inches across the island and we're just sitting there staring at it. Like did you actually see that happen? And we did of course and we all ran out of the house. It was just too crazy. It would always be little things like that that would happen to me and my friends and my sister.

And we would tell our parents all the time, like, this is happening or we hear this or we think we saw this. And they would try to tell us, you know, don't believe that. Don't try to buy into spirits. You're just being paranoid. You watch too many scary movies. It's not even anything like that. Well, fast forward to, I don't know, maybe I was a senior in high school.

my friend, she tells us about Oiji board, and she tells us that she's played with it before and that it works and that we should go get one. So we went to one of those shops in the mall that sells like board games and stuff, and we got Oweeji Board. And I never used one. I've never even seen anyone use one or even knew how to use one. And she kind of told us, like, the rules. So I don't know if anybody really knows what the rules of the weeds.

board are, but apparently it's like you can't take your fingers off of it once it's, once it's on. You have to like call the spirit a certain way. Like you have to do like a certain chant. I don't remember what it was, but you have, that's how you have to start it off. And then you can't take your fingers off of the board until you stay goodbye. And then the spirit or the Ouija board says bye back to you. So she caught us that and we did it. At first, it wasn't working at all.

And then all of a sudden, it would move. And, you know, whenever that happens, everyone gets scared and everyone is just like, oh, my God, did you move it? And, of course, everyone says no. But the feeling of it moving is just like, it's just dragging your fingers along. And you can tell that no one is pushing it just because everyone's fingers are on it so lightly. it would be impossible for somebody to push it just because you can actually see our hands hovering over the board.

It's not even really on anything. So it's just dragging us along and it's selling everything out. And we would ask it. Some normal questions that teenage girls would ask this thing, like, who am I going to marry? Or what's my next boyfriend going to be like or something like that? Or a question so that they can.

see, as though we could see it was legit, like, I don't know, what color is my underwear, something like that. And it would always answer it correctly. I remember we would get into details of the spirit, like asking it, oh, so what's your name, and what year did you pass away, and are you a boy or a girl, and just little things like that. And it would always answer. it would always be fine. I remember one day, I had a whole bunch of my friends over maybe like five or six and we decided to play the Ouija board.

It was going, you know, just like Marvel, how we always play it. And then we decided to ask, how did you die? And I don't think that it liked that question. I think this was like a really angry spirit it because it ended up saying really bad things to us. And then at the end, it just kept circling over the letters, F-U.

And it just kept going over S-U-S-U-S-U-S-U. And, you know, you can't take your fingers off until it says goodbye. And it would just not say bye at all. And we were so freaked out because we were just like, we're sorry. We didn't need to say that. We didn't need to ask you that. We didn't need to offend you or anything. And they would just keep saying F-U.

And eventually it went straight to buy. And I think that the next few times that we played that, we were trying to be very careful, but we would get mean spirits after that. Like all the spirits that we talked to would always say some form of FU or, you know, like none of your business or go away or something like that. So eventually we just decided to stop playing it and then give the board away. But we should have listened to everybody because, so we played it in this house.

And at the time, my grandma, she was living with us. My grandma, she had a stroke. So she, you know, she can't really speak, but you can't really understand her. But I remember she would always tell us, stop playing with this board. Stop playing with this board in this house. You're bringing in really bad spirits.

And no one would really believe her because they're just like, okay, well, maybe she's just, you know, crazy or something. But she, my grandma was actually a whole other story too. She would always tell us that she has spirits sitting next to her in this house. And one is a good spirit and one is the bad spirit. And the bad spirit is telling us to stop playing with this thing. And I don't know, like after that, it just felt like all of the bad vibes were in this house.

Like you would always feel something very uncomfortable. It would always be a little creepy to be at the house by yourself. So we stopped playing with the board and we would give the board over to like we would pass it on to our other friends like once who would want to play it. And some of them would tell us like, oh, it didn't work in our house. We're going to give it to someone else. But for some reason, every single time somebody knew got the board, something bad would happen. And it wouldn't be anything bad, like, oh, we got into a bad accident or something, but something little, like, it was always bad luck. And every time, like, we would keep it in someone's car, we would keep it in someone's house.

It would always be that. So eventually, I know one of my friends, she took it to, she used to work out of community college, she took it to the school with her because they were going to play it there. And I guess she brought it in there. And I guess she got in trouble because everybody was like, we don't want that in there. like it's just, it's not good. It's just bringing bad spirits in here. So she had to go away. And we never saw it again after that.

But it kind of just broke that little cycle of everyone passing it around and getting bad luck from it. Because I think it was just that last fear that we talked to just brought in everything bad in the house. So that was the last time that we played with it. But the house, things in the house started getting a little bit worse. I remember, like, I would be in my room, and I would hear, and I'd be the only one up, but I would hear talking in the living room. Like, I would hear voices or a bunch of people talking. And I would ask my sister, do you hear that? And she would tell me, yeah, I do hear it.

And I would tell them, and I was like, is it the neighbors, what's going on? But we hear it specifically from the living room, and that's where we would play the Ouija board the majority of the time. Sometimes we would play in my room, but then what are in the room. So I would be hearing voices from the living room. And every time I would go out there, there would be nobody. When I would be in my room, I would hear scratching in my closet. And we thought that maybe it was bugs, maybe it was mice or something like that. But where we live, there's, I mean, I live in Arizona.

It's like 110 degrees. There's not really any mice that I really see here. I mean, I was, you know, in the city, I don't even, I don't remember the last time I've seen a mouse. So I was like, it can't be any mice. And it would always be scratching in my closet. And it would be so bad that I wouldn't sleep in my room. I would go sleep in my sister's room or something. And I would bring a friend over and we'd be sitting in my room and we would hear the scratching in the wall again.

And it was just so terrifying, like all these little things that would happen to us. And every time, like I said, we would tell my parents, they wouldn't believe us. They would help to ignore it. And I also remember this one time I was talking to my cousin on FaceTime because her parents were at my house. They were visiting from Boston. And I was showing her, giving her a tour of our house. Everybody was in the backyard except me.

And then she says to me, oh, that you said everybody was in the backyard. I was like, what are you talking about? And she says, isn't that your mom behind you? and I turned around there's nobody there. And of course, she's like, no, your mom was standing like right behind you when you were in her room. I was so scared. I went outside of the house. Wow.

There's literally nobody in this house with me. It was, it kind of even needed chills right now thinking about it because I didn't see it in the FaceTime, but she saw it. So that was kind of crazy. eventually my dad he kind of got he got a little sick with something we're not sure what it was but and you know we're not sure what it was or how he had rid of it but he was just getting really sick and really skinny and you know he was just sit in his chair all day because he really couldn't do anything and I don't remember who told us this I think it was my other grandma so The grandma who lived with us was my grandma from my dad's side, my dad's mom.

And then the one who visited us, she is from, she was my mom's grandma, or my mom's mom. So she told us, there is a spirit in your house, or there's many spirits in your house. There is one that sits right behind your dad's chair, like where it's position. There's a spirit that sits right there all the time. And that is what is making your dad sick. And I wasn't surprised to hear that because I would think, like, every time I would walk into the house and I would feel something creepy, I would always look in at that corner just because that corner, for some reason,

it was just such a little creepy corner of the living room. And when you look at the house and you look at the living room, like, it's not that it's creepy in general or anything like that. It's a big open living room. There's a huge TV entertainment system. Everything completely normal. But when you're looking at that corner, you can just get a bad vibe from it.

So she told us there's a spirit in that corner. It is a girl. She's not happy. We don't know what's wrong with her, but she's the reason why he's sick, and we need to get rid of this spirit. So one of the things that my mom actually told me was that one day she got all of her friends over to the house and she invited some monks over to the house and worked over Buddhists and she brought the monks over to the house. So bless the entire house to get rid of these spirits and specifically that spirit.

I didn't even remember any of this happening when she told me about it. I was like, where was I? When did this happen? Like, I don't recall any of this going on. And she was like, yeah, I don't think I told you guys if you guys weren't. You probably weren't even here. Maybe it was over the summer or something. And they came and did a whole blessing with all of us here.

Like you had to have a whole bunch of people here and friends and family and offerings and things like that. And so we kind of made an event out of it. And after that, the house, the inside of the house was blessed, but not everything was completely gone. For the most part, that spirit actually went away, the one by my dad's chair. That one went away. And actually, my dad got better after that. And it was one of those things that it was almost like a miracle because you don't know what made him better or what medicine. Like if you ask people now, they'll tell people like,

Oh, I changed my diet. I stopped eating this and that. And it's just like, okay, your diet doesn't really cure you, but okay, we'll take that. But really, I believe it was a spirit that we got rid of that was right there. And so nothing was gone completely because my mom later told me that there were also spirits outside of the house. we had a backyard that had like one huge tree there and we used to have a whole bunch of grass. My mom told me that she was, because I remember we did cut down this huge tree so we can make room for a pool. Well, my mom was told later that that tree that she cut down was housing a whole bunch of spirits in it.

And they weren't even bad spirits. Like, some were kind of bad, some were good. It was just a whole bunch of different spirits on there, and she cut it down. So now they don't know where to go. But now these spirits are roaming the backyard. They're roaming our house. They're just stuck in this area. And when she told me that, I thought it was so crazy.

I was just like, you've literally never told me any of this before. I've never heard any of these stories before. like this sounds like something that is told in a movie or something like that. I don't believe it. And she's like, no, that's what the mom told us. That's what my mom told me. That's what she felt. That's what she saw.

And she said eventually, like, we would, she would get the house to be blessed by monks all the time. I don't remember any of this. So maybe it was over the summer a lot. It's because I was always gone over the summer. also, of course, I'm in school, so I would never see any of this. She said, you know, we would always get it blessed by moms. And there was, there's a specific birdhouse in our backyard. It's just like a big empty birdhouse.

It's like birds don't even come to it anymore because it's so old and there's nothing there. She don't need that. She had to put an offering there for a spirit that was just kind of bugging the house, really. he was like an old man spirit. He was not happy because we cut down the tree. He was like the only one latch and he just wouldn't leave. We like, he would come into the house and kind of like creep everyone out. There wasn't any, there wasn't anything that he would really do.

It's just, you know, when you feel a presence there, you know it's there and you know it just doesn't feel good. So he would be in the house. He would be in the backyard. It was just this bad man spirit. And my grandma told my mom that that birdhouse is now his house, though, and he wants food. He wants cigarettes because he used to smoke. And so my mom got him like a whole pack of cigarettes, a sandwich maybe, and then like a shot of liquor or something. And I don't know, she just kept doing it for a little bit.

And she was praying like she would always put it out and then she would always pray. And then she told me that one day she was outside. She finally did it. She was prayed. And then all of a sudden she gets this big gust of wind. And here in the summer, there's, I mean, there's no win. It's just neat. And she's like, I don't know where that wind came from or what happened, what it was.

She was like, but all of a sudden I felt better. She was like, after that, I never felt that spirit ever again. And I was like, that's so crazy. Why did you ever tell us this? It's like, well, I don't want to scare you or anything like that, but that's what happened. Like, that's what made this last spirit go away. And I just thought that that was so, like, that was so crazy of her to do that by herself and not tell any of us. They're not telling any of us this stuff like happening while we're over here freaking out about all these little things happening to us.

And she just doesn't tell us anything. but that was the last time that she felt the spirit and that she told us there was a spirit in the house. Ever since then, we hadn't felt anything and everything actually got better. Like, when I walked to the house, I don't feel creeped out or anything like that. If I do, it's probably because I don't know,

I watched too many scary movies and I'm paranoid. But as far as actually feeling any bad vibes, none of that happens. You know, no more voices, no. no more scratching, no more things turning on and off. I remember also, like, I had this little, this little radio, maybe the size of my tongue, it's like, it's like a kid's toy. And then, like, you put this little CD in it, kind of, and then you press play,

and it plays, like, 30 seconds of, like, a song or something. I remember I would, I took that into the bathroom with me before I take a shower so I could play it. And, you know, it only plays, like 30 seconds, so it turns off. And then all of a sudden, it started playing again. And I was like, there's still spirits in here. Like, they're messing with me. But as far as something bad, I've never felt anything like that. So maybe there is something that's still there.

But nothing that ever bothers us. That was really the only last time something has actually happened to me when that little radio played on its own. Other than that, you know, that house is completely fine. I guess unless someone says otherwise. But the kind of backtrack my grandma that had the spirits that

she said that she had spirits with her. I remember before we got rid of everything, she was always talking to herself and I kind of thought I don't really talk to her because I know there's not really a conversation to we had because just because I don't really understand

what she's saying like she's speaking another language and also she's had a stroke so it's kind of hard to understand so i didn't really talk to her much like it would be little conversations here and there so i was like maybe that's why she's talking to herself you know just to give herself a little bit entertainment she would be always be talking to herself and you know talking to the person next to her or talking to the air next to her and i remember she finally told me one day that um yeah there are there is a spirit sitting next to me in this house. Like the bad one, she has, like, really long hair, and she's all dressed in white.

She's kind of bad. She says bad things, but she's mean. And the other one is really, the sitting next to me is really nice. And she tries to get rid of the bad one. And she was like, but the bad one is really strong. And I think that also contributed to the activity in the house. And that's also the reason why she didn't want us to play. with the Ouija board.

And my grandma, she, I didn't see this, but I was told later that my grandma actually got possessed at a funeral that we went to. And I didn't, so they didn't tell me until later because obviously they didn't want to scared and it was at a funeral, but my grandma, she got possessed by one of her spirits, and she spoke to my dad, and they said that it was in such a clear voice that you knew that she was possessed because, you know, like I said, she had a stroke. You can't understand her, but she spoke in such clear sentences, and she kind of told him, like, you know, the reason why you are sick is because they told her like the reason they told him the reason why you're sick is because you did this in your past life and you know you were really bad and you're going to be sick forever like you there's not going to be a way to find a cure for you well and then she well and then she kind of put her head down and then she woke up and didn't know anything that had went on

she didn't even know that she got possessed or anything. Everything with that's normal. Well, now my dad, he's not sick with what he was before, but he is mostly blind now and they don't know why. So that whatever she was possessed with kind of told him that it's going to be like this for you. This is what is going to happen. You're going to be sick with something that you can't get rid of. of. And I guess that's what happened. And I was like, I can't even imagine that happening,

but I was told that story not too long after the funeral happened. But my dad going blind, it happened years later after that. So I was kind of creeped out. Like, I would always remind my mom, do you remember what this happened with grandma. and everything like that. And she was like, yeah, I know. So that house, that, like, I'm being in that house, everything happening there, it was all bad spirits, but all of that, I'm glad to say, is finally gone now.

Let's see. What else? Oh, well, okay. So other things, I know this is not related to that house, but other things, like with my, family and like spirits. We, in our old house in California, we

live there with, it was my family and my cousin's family that lived in one big house. And there were spirits in that house too. It's like they're following us or something. In that house, I was maybe five years old there. I grew up there. I moved when I was like seven. And in that house, I remember, like, one day I walked to the kitchen late at night, and everything in the kitchen is starting shaking.

And I thought it was an earthquake or something. You know, we were in California, but I remember my other cousins running down the stairs and everyone screaming too, but none of the adults. And we never talked about it again after that because everything stopped shaking. And I, at that moment, as a little kid, I was thinking, well, maybe this is the spirit of our other cousins who passed away maybe a couple years before that. Well, as teenagers, I talked to my cousins about it that was in a house. And they're like, yeah, that did happen. I can't believe you remember that. Like, we never talked about it.

Or we don't even talk about it ever because nobody believes that it happened to us. So we don't bring it up. And they're like, I really cannot believe that you remember that because you were the youngest. I was like, yeah, like, so I wasn't crazy. So that's not a dream that actually happened to us. I was like, yeah, it's just, in that house. There was a lot of spirits in there, too. And my cousin would tell me that she, her older sisters, would lock her in a closet, you know, just to be mean.

And it was one of those closets that it goes really small at the end. And then it kind of turns into the little corner. I don't know what those closets are called. We don't have those here. but it would be one of those little closets. And she told me that she would be, one, scared of being locked into the, in the closet, just because she was one of the youngest ones and they would kind of torture her in there. But two, she said that whenever she would be locked in the closet,

there would be a little girl's spirit in there sitting right next to her and, like, whispering to her and stuff like that. And she would be so freaked out that she would, like, claw and, like, scream and tried to get out of the closet. And, of course, her sisters are not going to let her out. but when we all talked about it, they were like, yeah, I remember, like, you were freaking out because you were in a closet, but we just thought it was funny because we lost you in there. And she was like, yeah, I was freaking out because there was actually somebody sitting next to me in that closet. Wow. And, yeah, I was just, I got chills hearing that story because I was like, that never happened to me.

So thank God. But that house I remember was creepy. Like, I felt that, you know, there was always somebody behind me. somebody who's getting pushed, I think one of my cousins told me that they actually got pushed down the stairs before by one of the spirits and almost broke their arm or something, but it just wasn't that bad. So I just feel like spirits are following me. Spirits are following my family. Yeah, that's, I mean, it definitely sounds like it to me. You know, just this morning, I fell down the stairs, but nothing pushed me. Well, hopefully you didn't break anything either.

No, and I was holding my son, too. He's only, he's turned six months yesterday, and I had him in the left arm, and I lost my footing, and I went down the stairs. And the only thing I could think of is to hold him on top of me as I was just going down. It scared the crap out of him, though. But. Oh, my God. Well, God, nothing happened to him. Yeah, me too, me too, because that would have been. Forget about you. Glad nothing happened to him. No, no, I agree. I agree. I mean, I have a bruised hip and brush burns on my arms. stuff, but he seemed to be okay. So he just scared him a little bit. But I'll tell you what, I mean, you had a lot of stuff here happening throughout your life. And it's pretty incredible. I mean, your grandmother getting possessed at a funeral and stuff is pretty, to me, it's pretty

bizarre. I've never heard of somebody getting possessed at a funeral. And then, you know, talking the way she talked and things like that. Was your dad healthy before that happened? Yeah. So, Before that happened, my dad, even now, my dad is completely healthy, like in all aspects. The only thing would be, like, a thyroid issue that came and went. But he is, like, 50s, I don't know, something years old. He's, like, I don't know, he's completely healthy. So it's just so bizarre to everyone and to the doctors and everything that anything would happen to him. Even his eyesight now, they don't even know what type of condition he has to make kids.

eyesight go so bad or just go actually so it's just bizarre that something like that would happen and for the longest time I just put it on those spirits like I still think that it is the spirit I really believe in a past life and the fact that they said like you did something bad in your past life to make this happen I really believe it okay so was this like something that there was a haunting going on in the house before the Ouija board? So there were always little things that would happen in the house before the Ouija board. It was just, I don't know, a feeling, but it was never anything that anybody would pay attention just because I don't ever think that it was a big, it was a big deal.

Like, I would always put it off as already, we're just being paranoid. But when we brought in the Ouija board, we really noticed a whole bunch of things happening, a lot more spirit activity happening. So I don't think, I don't know if the Ouija board actually brought in all the spirits. I think there were maybe spirits there before because my grandma did say that there were spirits in the trees outside. So I think that they were there before. But I think the spirits and the Ouija board just kind of opened up a door to more. spirits and more bad ones. Yeah, I mean, that definitely sounds like it. I mean, if your family is being haunted by these spirits and then the Ouija board kind of opens up a doorway for more to haunt you

and these aren't, you know, necessarily the nicest entities, do you guys have any idea as to why this is happening? I mean, who cares about what your faith is and things like that? I mean, there's plenty of people out there with the same kind of faith. So what happened? I mean, do you have any clue as to what started this stuff with your family? I have no clue. I just think, I don't know, for some reason, I always just thought, well, maybe those are just following the whole family or something like that. There's spirit, so I don't actually know if there's anything that happened.

Yeah, I don't think so. It's just so weird. I think that there's, I don't know, maybe something happened with, like, my grandparents, like back, way back then or like other parts of the family and then just spirits are just, you know, kind of around the entire family. But honestly, I feel like I have more stories and like spirit activities and stuff that happened involving my dad's side of the family as opposed to my mom's side of the family. So maybe that could be something too.

Maybe something happened on his side of the family that we don't know about that invited all these spirits then because, I mean, really thinking about it at this moment, I have no stories with my mom's side of the family involving spirits except my grandma on my mom's side telling us that there are spirits in the house. Other than that, there's nothing. And from his side, I can tell like 50 million stories about like other people's houses from that side of the family being haunted and stuff like that. So you said earlier, in fact, I think it was towards the beginning of this interview, that a psychic, and remind me if I misremember this, but a psychic came up to you guys and told you about your house and then went to your house with you guys and then wanted it to charge

to service the house, right? Yeah. And where were you when this psychic came up to you again? We were at the mall. That's what I thought. I just didn't want to misremember. Yeah. Yeah, we were at the mall and she was with her daughter, I believe.

And yeah, she just came up to us and just told us like, this is all, you have a lot of bad stuff happening at your house. We need to get rid of it. And she came to our house, walked around, did feel that it was bad and wanted to save it and wanted to charge like maybe $200 or something just to try to get rid of this grid or whatever way that she did. And, you know, we're just like, yeah, we don't believe you anymore just because, you know, you want the money. You just prayed on somebody. But in the hindsight, like, maybe she was right. Well, yeah, I mean, maybe... It wasn't a lot of BS.

Yeah, I mean, but what, I mean, is that a common thing? Because for me, I live in the Philadelphia area. If somebody comes up to me and tells me something about my house, I'm not bringing them to my house. Like, I don't trust people like that. Maybe it's a me thing. Maybe I just don't trust people. But, like, why did she come to your house?

I never used to talk about that before. Okay, so I think my aunt who does, even my, so my aunt, she does engage in like in a lot of spirit activity. Like she, even now she can see and hear spirits and everything. I think she did ask this that one time, like, why did you bring this lady to your house to do that? That's so crazy. But I think, and it was my mom's decision, like my dad wasn't there or anything. So maybe my mom felt really selfish. that maybe she is right.

There is something and I've been feeling something. And that's why she let her come. But I never really thought about that before. Why did we let her come? But she was like, she looks like one of those like old, like, you know, aunt type of ladies or something like that. She's just, maybe she would trust me. Yeah.

It's the ones that can project the trusting image that you've got to worry about. Oh, my God. You're right. She'll have like a whole gang with her behind her. Like, oh, my God. These people's houses come here. Yeah. I don't think she's ever done that to anyone.

I don't know. It's just being like she doesn't really do that often now when I think about it because I remember that day just so specifically, like all the time. And we never talked about it again after that. In fact, I think my mom told us to not tell my dad that this happened because it was something so crazy. Yeah. I mean, I just, I think it's bizarre.

To me, it's bizarre. I'm like, what the heck? Like, I would never. Like, I mean, I talk to a lot of people. And, you know, through virtual media and over the telephone, you build up a trust with a lot of different people that you talk with. But to bring them to my house, like, for me, it's a whole nother level.

Maybe I'm just more protective, but like, there's very few people that I allow to come to my house. That's just, I don't, I just don't trust a whole lot of people, I guess. Maybe it's a me problem. Maybe it's the regional. Yeah, I guess so. Maybe, like, maybe, I don't know. They really think about it, like, oh, we live in the suburbs.

They just met this lady in the mall. It can't be that bad. Well, I mean, when you ran into this lady, the whole the cup moving on the island thing, was that before or after you ran to the psychic lady? So, okay, so actually now I'm putting the timeline together. This lady, she came up to us, like, right when we moved to Arizona, like near the beginning. So I moved here when I was seven, she probably came up. up to us. Maybe I was about eight or nine. So we were still fairly new to the area. And

so that was in the very beginning. None of the stuff, the little stuff that happened, none of that happened until I was a teenager. See, that lady brought something to your house then. That's what is. She was up to know good. I'm telling you, man. She tricked us. She wanted to get rid of everything, but really she brought it all in. Yeah. And I would think, like, like, oh, maybe somebody died in this house. And it wasn't that at all. Like, the guy who sold us our house, I think he had bought it brand new.

Like, it was just built brand new. And then he was there for a few years and he sold it and retired or something like that. It was not like anybody died or I don't think there's any, you know, the house is built on top of anything like that. So I don't know where those bricks came from. You know, I think that's pretty clear. I mean, we, you had experiences before. the Ouija board. And so, I mean, the common denominator, you can't really even include that because

there was things happening before that. But, you know, you said things vamped up after that, which, you know, take it or leave it as it is what it is. But I mean, you said that you heard, I think you said it was a, was it a female voice that you heard talking in the living room? It was a whole bunch of voices that I heard. All at one time? Yeah. It was like a whole bunch of voices like talking to, it sounded like they were all talking to each other. Was it in English? Yeah.

You know, in the scene in Moulon where all the ancestors come out and talk to each other. Yes. That's how I felt like it was. It was just a whole bunch of people talking to each other. Wow. Okay. And it wasn't English, but it wasn't any, like, queer talking. It was like, it was, it was, as I was a bunch of whispering, a whole bunch of people whispering to each other.

Okay, but it didn't sound like some kind of, like, foreign language or anything like that. no okay gotcha oh my god that would i would run out of the house if it was any type of language i understand or anything like that i know that i mean well that's something that i've been trying to ask people more when i hear these stories because you know you don't know where these entities came from you know you don't know if they they were american or if they are any kind of person that died or maybe they're some kind of demonic identity and maybe they would have their own language you know i just don't know so right yeah i didn't i never even thought about that, but

no, it was wrong in English, so thank God we know it's not a demon. Yeah, no. So one of my questions here is you had a woman, I guess, standing behind you that your friend thought was your mom.

Did your friend describe what the woman looked like, y'all? Yeah, so it was, I was actually on the phone with my cousin, so she knows what my mom looked like, and she was just like, you know, your mom, her normal hair, her hair is down. You know, she's short, shorter than you.

So my mom, I'm like five, six, five, seven. My mom's like five four. So when I'm holding the camera up, she's like, yeah, she's kind of behind you. Like you can see her kind of below your shoulder. And she was like, her hair was down, you know, normal brown. I was like, yeah, my own hair is up. She's in the backyard. It's hot here.

Like, that's not her. Yeah. It's just so crazy. But yeah. Well, okay, so it was a FaceTime phone call. Mm-hmm. Gotcha. Okay, that makes sense.

Now, that's pretty creepy, to be honest with you, to have somebody. Because, I mean, I'm thinking, okay, somebody's there in the room with you. That's what I must have missed the phone call part. But the fact that you were alone in the room and somebody on the other camera says, there's somebody behind you, that's got to be freaky. Holy cow. And not only that, but, you know, when you're on FaceTime, you can see yourself. I didn't see anybody behind me or anything like that.

And the fact that she saw somebody and I didn't see anybody in the camera just kind of made it even more creepy. And as first, I thought that, so in my parents' room, there's this huge window that you can see in the, you can see the backyard through. And I thought, well, maybe she saw them through there and, you know, that my mom was in. her room with me just because she saw her through the window or something. And she was like, no, she was right there in the room with you, like not behind the window, not outside of any, right there in the room with you. And that just made it even worse. Yeah, for sure. I mean, my patrons, they get to watch me do these interviews live. And so it'd be like one of them saying, hey, Tony, there's somebody standing behind you. That's exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I don't think I could

handle that. I'd probably end the interview, walk out of the house or something. I don't know. Now that you mentioned that, somebody is going to play a prank on you and say that. They already are. You should see the comment. They already are. Yeah. So, but I just won't believe them until, yeah, no in my luck will probably actually happen and I won't believe them then. Yeah. That's okay. Just pretend that you don't see anything. You don't hear anything. Just pretend you don't even see their comments. Yeah. Well, let's talk about New Orleans.

I mean, we talked about your house. We talked about the Ouija board. I'm not a fan of Ouija boards. I don't like Ouija boards. I definitely think that when things vamped up in your house, it does surround the Ouija board. So whether things were happening there or not beforehand, a lot of the bad things happened.

In fact, you know what? Before we move on to New Orleans, you did mention about when you were dealing with the Ouija board that you had, you know, things actually happened that it said would happen. Like, what kind of things are we talking about here? Are we talking really bad things or good things? I mean, was it, was it just things like, you know, it was telling you the name of your next boyfriend or what? Yeah. It would, so it would start off with little things like that telling us with who your next boyfriend is that you're going to be a guy that

looks like this or something like that. But eventually, like it would say things. Like I told you, say like S you, say things like die. And it would just, it would just be like bad direct towards us, towards people playing it. And I remember one of them, one of the spirits had like a really, infatuation with one of my friends. And he would try to, like, he would hit on one of my friends through the Ouija board.

And it was really weird. Like he would say, I don't remember like any of the specific things, but he would say like really uncomfortable, like nasty things towards her. And we were just like, is this, are they serious? And I think, I remember when that happened, this was the same day that it said, um, F you to all of us. So I was just like,

whatever spirit we were talking to them, it was really, I don't know, really in, just into her and just really perverted and everything. It was just really bad. But as far as like, things happening to us.

It didn't really say anything that was going to happen to us. It was just more of whenever somebody had the board in their possession, like something bad would happen. Like they would get some bad luck. Like, oh, I don't know. I had this in my car and now

I got flat tire or something like that. Because I remember one of my friends would keep it in her trunk the whole time because she didn't want to bring it in the house and then she also didn't know what to do with it. So she would just keep it in her car. something like that happened and she just got a flat tire. Just little things like that to where it's not a normal occurrence.

Like, you know, we don't get flat tires every day. I understand that people do. But just the fact that she had that in her presence and then that did happen to her car, it just kind of makes you think, well, maybe that is the board. Maybe whatever spirit from that board made that happen. Yeah, I mean, you got some real Jammaji stuff going on there. I don't recommend anybody playing with Luigi. board. I've never touched one after that. I should have listened to everybody when they told us

not to bring it into the house. Now I will always tell people do not bring it into your house. Yeah, there's some people, a warning is good enough and some people got to experience for themselves. And I think you're the kind that wants to experience it for yourself because I was always told growing up, don't touch Ouija boards. And I was like, good enough for me. I'm not touching it. I don't even know what Luigi board was at the time I had never been exposed to that I kind of knew what it was

like I saw it was and I was like that can't be real like there's nothing real about this like obviously people are pushing this little thing around but yeah but like you said I experienced it and never again yeah so why don't you talk to us about this New Orleans story that you wanted to share with us

Okay, so I went to New Orleans about two or three years ago, and I like to go to places that are, I guess, haunted. This goes back to the whole you have to experience it for your own thing. So I like to go to places that I think are haunted. And not to mention New Orleans is just really fun. But one of the biggest reasons why I went there is because we knew about all of the history that I had there and all the hauntings and everything like that. So I went with three of my cousins, and one of them is the one that I lived with in that house that I told you about the first one with all the shaking and everything.

So she was there. And we went on this ghost tour. And we were all, let's say, we were just all really drunk then. Like, honestly, we carried a bottle of alcohol with us, like, in a while. water bottle. So we're just like, this is going to be fun. Like, we're going to get drunk and, you know, we're not going to get haunted or anything like that. Well, we all believe in ghosts, but one of our cousins that was with us, she's never seen anything. And she's not sure. She believes in it just because she's never seen or experienced anything. And we told her that the

person who wants to see it the most will not see it. That's what we've always been told. If you actually want to see these spirits, then you're just, you're not going to see. It won't show itself to you. And the rest of us, we kind of went in there with an open mind. Like, yeah, we've experienced this before we might get haunted, but this is not exactly what we're looking for. We're just looking for a good time. So we went on this ghost tour. And if you've ever been on a ghost store in New Orleans, it is pretty creepy because it does take you around all the historical sites and they do have little creepy stories for each part. Well, there was this one specific, I think it was the last stop on our tour. And we,

We had to go through this little doorway in a really busy area. I don't remember which area it was. There was a whole bunch of shopping pauses. And then there's just one of those, it's like one of those doors that it looks like is just plastered it on the wall. And you were kind of surprised that it even opens. So he opened it and we all go in it. I go in first out of the whole group because I'm just like, you know,

let's just get this over with. And you go in and it's dark. It's like a little stair. way leading up to some room up on the second floor or something. And he tells us, like, back then, this used to be, like, part of a brothel. And, you know, people would just kind of go through this doorway if that's what you were looking for. And so it was kind of a little hidden doorway. And we went through it.

It was really creepy because it was just all wooden and old and creaky. And for me, I was starting to get paranoid because I was looking over my shoulder at every turn and every little corner and everything like that. That's just how big it was. So we finally get to this big room. And the room is kind of like a little, it's almost like a little apartment. It has like as soon as you go up the stairs, it's almost like you're going into an attic apartment. So you go up the stairs and straight to your left is like this dining room. And in that dining room, I think they just kind of set it up for, you know, tours.

And it has like two long tables, two long brown tables so everybody can sit down. And then at the front of the room, it has one of those, I don't, one of those like covered or one of those cabinets that, the glass ones that showcase like all the China and everything like that. So it has one of those. And then right next to that is two bedrooms. One of them has nothing in it. The other room has, like, a vacuum in there. And they're all empty. So we all sit down and the tour guide starts telling us,

oh, there's also like a huge chandelier at the top. So the tour guide starts telling us the story about how in this room, there used to be this process due, that lived in here she eventually got pregnant by this man and it was like a bad like

I guess pimping and prostitute situation of course like he was really abusive and he got her pregnant and then when she gave birth to the the kid it was a girl and she was like six years old she found out that that guy wanted to also

pimp out her daughter well the story is she eventually committed suicide and with her daughter. So I think they jumped out of the building. So she had her daughter with her and she jumped out of the building. She jumped out of the room that had the bathroom in it. So he's telling us the story about how every time they do a tour or something like that,

the chandelier starts shaking. Whenever it shakes a little bit, but whenever there's the ghost presence, like it starts shaking a little bit more. And there's like one long piece that hangs out from the chandelier. and it just kind of spins a little bit more. So they're talking about that, spinning, whatever, and we're just not, me and my cousins, we're just having a great time.

We're just not even really believing what he's saying because we're like, how convenient, you know, your chandelier is spinning when you're telling us about a ghost story. Well, we're sitting at this table, and I'm sitting in the front because we have to turn all of our chairs so that they're facing the front of the room. So I'm sitting in the front. It's one cousin behind me, another cousin behind me, another cousin behind me.

The one who really wanted to see all the ghost stuff, she was in the very back. And so I'm sitting there and behind the four guys, you know, one of those cabinets, one of the doors, it opens, like, it slowly opens. And I'm looking at it because it's just right behind him. And I noticed that it opens because, you know, it's all glass. So the reflection kind of changes. And it showed me like the stairs that were right next house or something like that. So I'm just like, did that really open? Like, am I just drunk?

Like, am I crazy? And I look behind me and look at my cousins and their eyes are just wide, except the one in the very, at the very end who wanted to see everything. She saw nothing. But the two that were behind me, their eyes were just completely wide. And I was like, did you guys see that? And they're like, yeah, we saw that. did you saw something?

I was like, yeah, did you guys see that door open? They're like, yeah, we did. So we tried. And they're like, we're talking. And then the tour guys, like, ladies, what are you guys talking about? And I was like, well, that door just opened. So I don't know, is that part of your theatrics? Like, has that ever happened?

He's like, I don't know what you're talking about. He's like, I don't even know what door you're talking about. I was like, the cabinet door right behind you, it opened. And he was like, I've never heard of that happening to any. buddy and he was like that's kind of creepy and nobody on the tour they really believed us because we were kind of like you know the loud ones of the group and everyone's just like trying to see those girls just kind of want attention so we're just sitting here like freaking out because we did see this door open but we kind of ignore it now just because nobody believes us so we go to

the room with the bathroom in it and we're taking pictures because we want to see if there's any spirits in there. And they recommend us to take pictures, just to catch any spirits. But I'm taking a whole bunch of pictures. I don't see anything. And honestly, I'm scared to you to look at my pictures later because I'm just like, well, if there's something in here, I don't want to see. And all my cousins, they feel the same way. So that was our last night. We go back, we know, we go out later that night. We go to sleep. Well, the next morning, we're all sitting around, you know, waiting for our flights and everything like that. And one of my cousins, And she was like, I don't know, look through our pictures.

So she looks through her phone and she's like, guys, was there someone in the room with us? Like when we were taking this picture? And I was like, of course, there's like a whole tour group in the room with us. And she was like, well, there anyone that looks like this or does anybody this small? So she shows us the picture. And she's about my height. She's about 5'7. And she shows us this picture that she took.

There's like a random table in the corner of the room. And in the corner of her picture, like, at the very near the bottom, is, like, a dark, small dark figure. And it's just completely black. And we don't know what it is. And we're like, maybe it's the back of someone's head. And we kind of try to compare it to one of our cousins, that's what she's like really short. Well, maybe it's her. But we're like, no, you know, the way this is angled and the way the position you would be standing, like you would look way taller in this picture.

And that's not you. It's like the very bottom of. her picture and like maybe it's a thumbprint. So she's trying to like hold her phone to kind of re-and-ask like what she's doing. And she's like, no, my camera's not even there. How would my, how would you put a thumbprint up there? And that doesn't make any sense. So at the bottom of her picture, we see a dark, a little dark figure like it was the child.

And it's just completely black figure right there. And we sent it to each other. We showed other people. They're like, that is definitely something there. definitely a spirit that is not a person. So if I could find a picture, I will definitely show you and you will be able to see that, yes, it is a dark spirit right there. It was so creepy.

Like, I probably look at it to the picture maybe two times. I try not to look at anymore just because I know that it freak me out. Just to think about it because there was nobody, nobody of that size in our tour group that could possibly be right there in a picture. Yeah, that's definitely freak. we've been on ghost shows, or not ghost shows, uh, ghost tours and stuff like that. Uh, before we actually went to the Winchester Mansion and different things like that. I mean, even Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia, which is really known for, you know,

being haunted. Uh, but I, and we've taken tons of pictures and I've never seen anything in the pictures, uh, you know, but hey, of course, it would happen to you. You have all this other stuff happening to you as well. So why not, right? adds more to the list. Yeah. It's just like one of the things that, like, when you look at it, you can, just tell that it's not even a person or anything like it's like it's just like a dark shadow it's as if somebody is wearing like a black blanket

or something you know how like when you're watching a movie and it shows like the little the little ghost shape like the little caspler shape it's like somebody wearing a blanket that's what it looks like somebody wearing a black blanket standing at the bottom of your picture and so that's why it's just so creepy because it's no actual like true

person form it's just a dark figure dark shadow right there Jeez. Well, that's just another story from New Orleans that I've heard. I mean, that city is bananas. I think actually I had two people on. Yeah, they were from New Orleans. This couple came on and they talked about being abducted. And it all happened in New Orleans. New Orleans is filled with this kind of stuff. Crazy, crazy stuff. I believe that story is, you know, 100%. Because, yeah, there's so many crazy things that happen there. And plus, you know, all the voodoo and everything, all the stuff that I would be interested to see. It happened. Yeah. So I believe it.

Have you ever been to, like, Salem or anything like that? No, I've never been to Salem. I mean, I could drive up there sometime when I have time, but I've never been there. My friend who was on the show, I don't know, earlier this year, probably about six months ago, he has been there. He lives in Massachusetts and stuff. Finn. It's just, it's a crazy area for sure. Yeah, I've been to Salem before, too, and I hope I have to say New Orleans is way scarier than Salem. Really? Yeah, it's like way more creepy. Like, every corner that

you walk in New Orleans is just, you know, you just feel something there. In Salem, it is creepy because of all the stories, but I didn't, like, I wasn't, like, scared. I think in Salem, like, I saw one mannequin that was sitting in a store that kind of freaked me out. Like, I thought that this mannequin was, like, watching me. But that could just be me being paranoid, but that was really the only thing that scared in Salem, though. Yeah, well, maybe one of these days I'll make it up to Salem and stuff. And even New Orleans, I have a couple friends that live down there.

So you never know what time. You need to go to New Orleans and get all the stories from there. You just go on an interview tour there. Yeah. And get all these stories. I really could. I mean, I could go down there and just kind of walk around and interview people for a couple of weeks and have about a year's worth of shows, you know? Honestly, because everybody who lived there, people we even encounter, they will tell us, like, yeah, this type of thing happens all the time.

Yeah, no, I absolutely believe it and stuff. Well, Molly, I really appreciate coming on and sharing these stories and stuff. It's very fascinating. If you do find that picture, do send it over to me because I would love to see it. Okay. I'll look for it. All right. Well, you take care, okay? Okay, thank you. Bye.

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