The Confessionals - SATANIC RITUALS: What's REALLY Happening at These Concerts? | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: October 9, 2026

Are satanic rituals, occult symbolism, and spiritual influences hiding in plain sight within the entertainment industry?In this episode of Slingshot Nation Live, we investigate the darker side of the music industry, exploring controversial performances, disturbing symbolism, mysterious lyrics, and questions surrounding some of the biggest names in entertainment.From Taylor Swift's comments about ritualistic elements in her concerts to Miley Cyrus's mysterious song lyrics, we explore the growing conversation surrounding occult imagery, alleged satanic rituals, and the spiritual implications of modern music and entertainment.Are these performances simply artistic expression and theatrical symbolism, or could there be deeper spiritual meanings behind what millions of people are watching and participating in?Join us as we examine the intersection of satanic symbolism, occult practices, demonic imagery, spiritual warfare, celebrity culture, and the entertainment industry. Through a biblical lens, we'll explore the influence of music, the power of symbolism, and the possibility that spiritual messages are being communicated to audiences in ways they may not recognize.If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890📕 Order Tony's Book: https://a.co/d/0bJS3SaV🎥 Tony Merkel YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@tony.merkel🌐 Visit: tonymerkel.com📰 Subscribe to Our Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/newsletterBecome a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyIVERMECTIN: twc.health/tonyVENICE AI: https://venice.ai/theconfessionalsRUMBLE WALLET: https://rumblewallet.onelink.me/bJsX/ConfessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media6726 Morganton RdP.O. Box #08Greenback, TN 37742SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jyorkofficial

Oh boy. Is that a slingshot? Yeah, yeah. Flingshot season. Hey. Grace, hear me like. Welcome to Slingshot Nation. Everybody. Thanks for being here.

We have the shades on because our eyes are, I don't know. I don't know why I have the shades on. I hope you guys are doing well. Derek, how are you doing, man? You threw them on. I was like, I'll throw them on. They were just sitting there, and I just wanted to put them on. So now we have shades on, like the cool kids.

Look at the Merk, Merck, merch t-shirts. Jumping the gun here. Jack, how you doing, man? Pleasure. Listen, guys, we hate it. We hate it. And every week it happens. It's been having less and less. But this week was terrible. Starting late. Terrible. Let me take this off. Let me take these off. Start and late. We told you guys, what was the original time, Jack, that we were saying we're going to show up at? 11.30. 1130. Well, we're an hour and 15 minutes behind. Yep. But we were trying. We were here and we were trying. But there was just things happening. That AI video I tried making for you guys. It's terrible. I know. Don't even sweat it. I know. It's bad. But it's the best I could do. I was trying here. I was trying. Listen, today we're going to talk about these rituals that are happening in these concerts. And quite honestly, we could have done so many different topics when it comes to this. The music industry, obviously, what goes on to the records and things like that, but also the movie industry, the TV industry, what they're putting on the television for your children. We could do a whole sling.

Shot Nation live on just kids TV shows and what they're putting in the kids TV shows. But we are going to be talking about these musicians that seem to work their way up in the industry through nefarious means or some would call the dark arts. And it seems like it's a culture that has been there for a very long time. And they put the clues in their music as to what they're all about. And so we're going to be getting into that today, some fresh things that have come across the desk here, actually across Derek's desk. And we had a powwow yesterday. This week was just kind of like a running gun kind of week for us. I was even late getting into the studio today. Because I was planting a free book. And so it's just been a lot going on. And we had like a

powwow in the hallway yesterday about today's show. And that's as far as our preparation got. So Derek's going to be running with his research today for sure. Guys, listen, this is. This is book launch week. And the Confessionals, exposing warring kingdoms is now available on Amazon for live purchasing. And thank you for everybody who pre-ordered and everybody who's ordering. Thank you very much. Please go ahead and get your copy. And also, like, take a picture of you holding it. Or you don't have to be in the pictures. I know some people don't like being on camera. But like, take a picture of like the book, you holding it and post it online, share it around. We will share the pictures that we see. We'll post them in our stories and things like that. Um, and one of the things

that I was like, hey, you know what we should do? Who's idea was it? It was Lindsay's idea. That's what it was. The scavenger hunt, right? It was. Yeah. So, uh, I, what was it? Two days ago on Monday, I think it was or Tuesday. It was Tuesday when your book came out. You and I went into, to Knoxville and we planted a book. So we took a book, one of these books, a hard copy right here, or not hard copy, paperback copy. Uh, and we put it in a bag and we hid it in Knoxville. at the Sunsphere. And then Lori, like an hour or two later, went there and found it, and she posted a picture of it online, and we shared it. So shout out to Lori. And then yesterday, I was with my family because the kids are out of school and we were doing some family stuff. So I didn't really get a chance

to plant a book yesterday. So today I'm actually trying to plant two. I already planted one this morning. Go on Instagram, Facebook, and check it out. There's a video of me posting, of me planting the book. I don't tell you where it is. It's a scavenger hunt. So you got to figure out where the book is. Go get it. There's a free book waiting for you if you go find where it's at. But a clue to this is within traveling distance.

Of, yeah, me, of me. Yeah. So if you're in East Tennessee, I would say you have a stronger chance if you're watching from California or Australia. But that said, in a few weeks, we're going to be at, I always mess up the name of the conference, signs in the heavens. And so me, Alan De Deio and Larry Ragland are going to be putting on a free conference. I'm going to say concert because today's the music day.

A free conference at Allen's Church. The link is in the description to purchase this. If it's not, Jack, we'll put it there. It's there. But all you got to do is register to come. It's a free event. And it's going to be at Allen's Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. While we're out there, I plan on planting a book in Charlotte.

I just got to figure out where. And so just follow along on social media, Instagram, Facebook, and, you know, maybe I'll be planting a book near you and you'll be able to, you know, check it out and go find it. I know we're going to be in Kentucky next month. Is that right, Derek? November, yep. November, right? Weekend of the 19th.

Was it Crypticcon or something like that? Crypticcon. Yeah, Crypticcon. So we're going to be at Crypticcon in November. And so while we're up there, I think, in Louisville or something, or south Indiana, I don't know where it's at. But wherever it's at, we're going to plan a book. And we'll share with you guys.

I think it's fun, giving away free books and making it a scavenger hunt. So, yeah. Anyways, check it out, guys. And also the conference, I just wanted to make sure I let you guys know it is on October 23rd through the 25th in Charlotte. Now, if you come out to this conference on October 23rd, it's a free event. You'll get to celebrate my birthday with me because I turn 41 on October 23rd. third. So.

Hold. Was that a cough? Fired. It sounds like a cough. That's definitely a cough. But yeah, so it's my birthday. And so what better way to do my birthday than to rip the band-aid off of disclosure with some friends and family, right?

So, guys, I hope to see you there. Pack the house out. And like I said, if you're in the area, just come on out. It is free. It's a free thing. Just go ahead, hit the link in the description below to register so that they just know, have they have a head count of who's going to be coming and stuff. What else we got here?

Oh, Merk merch. So everybody show your t-shirts. Merck babies. Merck babies, baby. Yes. So we did the pre-sale a few weeks ago. That video people did. They liked it, I think, that video we made and stuff with that.

So we did the pre-order. And you guys sent those shirts out yesterday, I think, right? Yep. All of them. All the pre-orders. So anybody who pre-ordered your merch. Berk babies will be coming in the mail soon. All right, the last thing I got for you guys

before we get into the business of everything for today. We're doing something new today. Now, we don't have, actually, you know what, members, you can help us with this. You can help us with naming this new segment we're doing with Slingshot Nation. We have been pretty consistent. I think we maybe missed one week

when we were traveling all year, essentially. So, you know, we've been doing the show long enough now that I feel confident in doing this. Starting today, we are going to do Slingshot Nation, and then we're actually going to do a segment at the end where it's just for our members only. So members, if you're watching right now, wherever and however you're watching right now, just stay on the link you're on, unless Jack says otherwise as far as logistics goes, because he's got it worked out. But just stay on the link you're on and you'll have access to the members segment. but we wanted to kind of give back to the members in this way.

And so I feel confident that we can, you know, do this on a weekly basis. So every week we're going to be doing a members-only segment at the end of the show where we were just live for the members. And that segment is going to be brought to you by Legends and Lower Pizzeria. I was just down there a couple weeks ago. And I was talking to Eddie about this idea. And we just thought, you know what, let's just, you know, have some fun with it. And so Legends and Lower Pizzeria is. is going to be the, I don't know, the unofficial sponsor of this segment.

So do I have all the logistics right on that, Jack, though? Did I tell them to stay on a link that's going to be dead? I just want to make sure I'm not messing things up for you. So if you are on YouTube, you just stay on the link. And if you are a member to the website or to the app, you just go ahead to the app or the, yeah, just to the app. I think that's it. And you'll see the link there. It's going to be ready for you to go.

Yeah. Rock and roll. It's nice and easy. I tend to refrain from talking about memberships crossover when I'm on YouTube because it confuses people. So I just, because of what he just said, I have to restate it. If you're a member on YouTube, you have all the same stuff that members of my website have. And if members of my website, you have all the same stuff that members on YouTube have.

It's just two different platforms and we cannot connect the two together. So members, if you're a member of my website and you're watching this right now, all you got to do is go to the members app, and we created an entire new group in there called Slingshot Nation Live, right, Jack? And the live show right now is playing in there in the app, and you can watch it from there, or you can watch it on YouTube and then switch over to the app when this is done. Up to you. YouTube members, very much easier for you. All you got to do is stay where you're at, and it just switches over automatically, right, Jack? Boom, Shaka Laka. Boom, Shaka Laka.

You get that on them big jobs. Huh? You get that on them big jobs. What? Nothing. Okay. I, over my head. Okay. I didn't get it either. Okay. Well, thank you. Speak up next time a little faster, okay?

You're just going to be out there hanging like. I thought it was an inside joke. I was like, I, it might be. It might be. Okay. All right. He definitely. Anyways, those are the announcements, guys.

Listen, I'm, like I said, I'm really excited about book launch week. I'm going to be posting some fun stuff on social media over the next week or two about the book and all that stuff. But if you haven't done so yet, link in the description below. Purchase it off Amazon. And I forgot to say the most important part. if you're buying it off Amazon, please, or anywhere. I think Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Books a Million are all three, the official places you can purchase. We saw some people trying to sell them on Amazon already.

eBay. eBay. So I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. I have no idea. But anyways, if you purchase it off one of those three platforms, please go ahead and leave a five-star rating review. I guess that helps a lot. I see a lot of other people saying it helps. So please go ahead and do that.

I saw last time I checked. We had two already, and they were there. So, awesome. Anyways, let's get to the business of the business, Jack.

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Not for me, no. I'm always locking key. Locky key. Anyways, guys, thanks for tuning into another Slinghot Nation live. And this is going to be an interesting one because I think that we talk about the darker side of these entertainment industries a lot. And we all understand and acknowledge what we believe to be happening. But it's not all the

time that we have the industry itself give a nod back to our suspicions. And that's kind of what we're going to be talking about today. Some of the things that we've been seeing in different video clips that the industry itself and the people in the industry have been basically giving the nod of, yep, that's what we're doing. And honestly, like, that shouldn't be a surprise because we've been talking about on this platform in general for the last couple of years, the idea of this clashing, right? So, I mean, obviously the book, You know, Exposing Warring Kingdoms, There's Two Kingdoms and They're Warring, and it's coming to a head.

And so we're now at a point in time where things are getting serious enough spiritually in the warfare side of things that all bets are off, gloves are coming off, masks are being pulled off, and they're just laying carts down on the table. This is who we are. this is what we're about. We know we've been doing it long enough. We know that it's not going to kill our career. It's not going to kill our momentum. And we need to, at the final hour, be as desperate as possible to do things the way we need to get it done. So instead of playing games and dawdling around with it and pretending that we're hiding stuff just to keep things moving forward, we're just going to get it out there. It's done. And we're going to just accomplish our agenda as we desire. And nobody's going to have to worry about wondering anything. We're telling you who we are. And that's kind of how it feels like what's happening right now. And you're nodding your head.

I'm assuming you agree with my assessment. Yeah, I mean, I just, I feel like we need to be the watchman here because these songs coming out are explicitly worship songs essentially to the devil. I mean, there's really no way around it. And so we're going to cover some of these things. And it's like, I don't want to see my, I have a young 12 year old girl. Like, I don't want her singing along with these songs. I don't want her to engage in these things because it's not longer just like fun pop

songs, they are intentionally trying to lead our youth into darkness. And so that is my fear of people just being aware so that they can make their own choice. Yeah. And I mean, Jack's going to have kids one of these days very soon, apparently. What? I'm just kidding. No, that's what Ben said. Remember what Ben said? Yeah, Ben saw a girl at your house. And he said, how do he say? He goes, Uncle Jack has a girl at his house and there's going to be a baby soon or something like that, man.

James Ben? He's a prophet. I was like, I don't know if you know how kids are made, son. Like he was assuming like the next day there was going to be a baby. Anyways, moving on. Yeah, nobody wants their kids listening to that stuff. Nobody wants the kids listen to that stuff, right?

And when Derek was saying that, though, it reminded me of not too long before. I think it was last year. It had to be last year because you guys been on the show with me all year, right? Since January. When I did the whole breakdown of the Skrilla stuff, the 6-7, I mean, the whole 6-7 thing was in itself a thing, right? So, you know, what's the harm in the number 6-7? Like, probably nothing. You know, outside of the fact that there was a whole thing.

whole generation of young people doing a chant together. And even that, you can, you know, say, well, let's not read into it too much. It's just numbers and everybody's chanting it together, almost like if you were at a football game, you know, and you're chanting somebody's name maybe or something because you're just celebrating. But then when you take what Skrilla said he does before he releases his music, now you're talking about Skrilla doing rituals, which he admitted to doing before he releases an album or a song for something to pop off in that song in a way that infiltrates the culture

for its popularity, I wouldn't say he had planned the logistics of how it was going to happen, but it was more just, let's get this done. And you see this 6-7 happen where somebody made a highlight video of Lamello Ball playing basketball and Lamello Ball being a point guard

at six foot seven, they used that soundtrack, and it just became this phenomenon. And even the kids in the culture, understanding where it even got popular from, the mellow ball, the fans of the mellow ball, it on the surface is harmless. But when you understand the ritual that went into that song to create an environment that grabs the culture, and that is the channel that it happened through, it now is something to be concerned about if you're a parent having kids listening to this music, right? So it's one of those things where Scrilla does this. We just had a guy in studio not too long ago. And while I am talking to you about, let me pull up the schedule,

the tentative schedule, because we had some people asking us about the schedule. It's like, well, it's a tentative schedule. But it looks like, oh, wow. Oh, yeah. Okay, so November 3rd is a Tuesday. His name's Theo. He's going to be, his show is going to be airing with me. And I brought him in from Detroit, and he actually has a, his roots are within the hip-hop culture from back in the day. He understands the history of hip-hop. He was in it. And he knew people who were part of D-12, which is Eminem's hip-hop group. He was steeped in the culture. He also was steeped in occultism and pursuing the dark arts in music. he was told by people from within D12 that they were shown this ritual that happens on the music so that it has the most success possible.

And the person that told him that bowed out of the group because of it. And so he told Theo and some other guys what he was exposed to and saw. And so, like, you have these rumblings and these rumors of these rituals that happen before music gets released. we even have our friend Joel. Like Joel never, like, Joel's going to come in here soon, and he's actually going to be doing a whole thing with me where it's like Joel, every time Joel's on the show, most of the time Joel doesn't come to do a show

where we have this like conversational piece of like, tell me about your testimony, your story. It's more like, you know, his research and talking about a specific topic, which is fun. But the next time he comes in, we're going to talk about more of his testimony. And part of it is this music industry stuff because he pursued, he got into a very, I'll let him tell the story, but he became a free mason

and he got into the occult, the dark arts, because he was trying to grow and empower to gain positioning within the music industry. And now he's serving Christ and he has rejected all that stuff and now he's dedicated his life to exposing that stuff. But you see this stuff. You see people who are absolutely doing dark things for me. music for personal in their music for personal gain. And then you have, and those are just like current, like, actually all of them are the hip hop, all three things. Joel, Theo, and Skrilla, all hip hop industry and stemming generations.

Theo, I'm talking like, Theo stems from like the beginning of hip hop in the 70s, early 80s. Joel is like more our generation, you know, late 90s, early 2000s, age wise. And you got Skrilla for the kids these days. but it goes well beyond just hip hop. It goes into country music, pop music, you name it, it's in it. We just did a whole thing, what was two months ago with Dolly Parton before she passed. Like, let's just step back and look at that for a second. You know, the things that we discussed about her and then she passes, like, do you think that there is...

Actually, Derek, why don't you tell people what I'm talking about? Because you might remember the details specifically, but... the video of what she was doing with Taylor Swift that spawned us even having this conversation. Do you remember or should I have Jack to it? Yeah, no. I can do it too, but I'm talking a lot. So she's talking about Taylor Swift's baby and how special it was going to be. And then she literally gives up the devil horns while she's like, that's going to be a special baby.

And then puts her hand down. And so she was definitely making some kind of signaling to the other people watching, you know, that there's definitely something. I think demonically tied into that. And then we went into our backstories, some of her old songs, which is these old bones, which is one of them where she calls herself a clairvoyant, where she actually would shake and rattle dead bones and cast them out to see the visionary future of people and things like that, which she learned from a mountain witch. She even made a movie that you can watch on Netflix. And there's a whole like hour about the boy who actually learns witchcraft from a mountain witch, even though she's a Christian and all that. But like that boy is, I think, Dolly Parton.

Like, that is her story of how she became a clairvoy, according to the song. You know, and with this, it's also something to mention that when you were saying about what she was learning from whoever, I don't want to say it on the show because I don't think that we have been able to actually verify, but we have been tipped that there is a location up in the mountains

that isn't far from where we're at now. That isn't just a cover. From what I understand, maybe you remember different, but it's not just a coven of witches. It's a community of witches. It's not like a specific, I gather that it wasn't a specific covenant as much as like a whole, I don't want to say village, because that sounds like an Nishemlan, but like a community of witches that kind of live together essentially. Well, so even in that Netflix show, these old bones, like it's mentioned in the beginning

that there is a group, like, it actually talks about how it's outside of Severeville up into the mountains, a certain amount of mileage. And like, it literally is pinpointing to where we were told. There is a community up that way. Yeah. So even in her own, her own movie, her own song, like, it all correlates to the same point that you're mentioning. So if we are told that location, her song pinpoints that location. One, okay, fine, maybe it's true and right. but also like, I thought Dolly was a Christian.

How does she know? How she know where this stuff is? And then when you start laying out all the stuff involved, right? Now, she's passed, obviously recently, and it was shortly after we brought some of the stuff to people's attention. And that was because of what she said to Taylor. And it makes you wonder, then go down the conspiracy route, which I don't want to say keywords. Keywords will not be said here on YouTube. But it makes you go down that route, though.

of why does she need that baby? You know, knowing what Taylor and Travis are doing, her knowing it, you know, King Witch or Queen Witch. That's going to be some special baby, she said. Exactly. And knowing how Taylor and Travis view their relationship, which we'll get into, it makes me feel like she knew that there was a special baby coming,

such as others that we'll talk about. Well, and the others tie into Dolly, too. What others? Miley. That's right. She's the goddaughter of Dolly. Yeah. And so, like, there's like this witchy network here.

Yeah, really is. And it's, it just makes me wonder, just open wondering, if there was some kind of last attempt to curve death. And there was some kind of ritual that we were exposed to publicly because of the urgency of the hour of her own health. Now, what was the official thing of how she died?

Was it that she, like, expected or was it sudden? Do we know? No, all right, Jack can look it up. But, um,

because I feel like it was something where they, like, it was known that she was sick kind of thing. Um, so, you know, I don't know. She died from health complications related to cancer. Oh,

so she had cancer. That's what it says, yeah. Yeah. So, I, you know. She knew, yeah. She probably knew. I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. I just realized that we're actually in East Tennessee again, so I have to be careful because I may not make it out of the studio. It will be pitch forks outside the door. I just got nervous for things that I didn't expect to get nervous about. But so there's that aspect. That's kind of like in the current times of things. And we're going to start, we're going to kind of unravel that, that narrative.

weave that all together as the show goes on. But I just want to bring up two other things here when it comes to the idea of rituals and these stuff going on. We are, Jack, if you could look up to the exact date, I can't remember. I think it was October 1st, 2017, is when the Vegas shooting happened, which was a week ago, essentially.

It was October 1st, yeah. Yeah, it was October 1st. And so I had, I'm 10 minutes, or 10 minutes, 10 months into my podcast. October 1st. Okay, thank you. And this whole thing happens. I was on Facebook and any of the OG listeners from way back in a day. Because I'm about to reference some episodes that are not on YouTube.

Like, that's how old they are. I didn't upload them to YouTube. Back in the day, I was on Facebook when this first. happened and I saw this one guy, Alika, who actually became somebody that I worked with on the show. He was an artist and he used to make the show art in the early days. And he has a viral post going around. Like he was talking to the victims and like, how the heck did this guy get in contact with them? And I still don't know exactly. He posted something that the victims then started replying to. And through him, I was able to, within less than a week, interviewed two people

who were in Vegas that night. One person was actually at the shooting, like him, his wife, and her friends getting shot at. I think they were hiding under bleachers at one point, if I remember correctly, and they had to make a decision to run for it. And then the guy after him, I talked to both of them, put him on the same episode, I think.

The guy after him, I can't remember either one of their names now. He was across town in a different hotel. And he said, inside the hotel, there was shooting happening and people running. And so, like, there was something happening in Vegas that night that was not just at the MGM, right? MGM. Mandalay Bay. Mandalay Bay. Thank you. Thank you. At the Mandalay Bay with Stephen Paddock. But that whole thing has ritual vibes, sacrificial vibes, you know. It was called Route 91 Harvest music festival, right? Yes. Yes. It was a harvest festival. And so, like,

It's things like that they put in front of you. And even, shoot, there was the third episode that I did on that, a girl, a young lady contacted me. And I think it was her and her family were under Stephen Paddock's room. And the things that she described. I just remember her talking about a helicopter, like their experience with a helicopter, which I remember was a thing that was popping up in videos and people say, is that helicopter shooting?

There's a lot of weird things. Like, clearly they weren't telling you the whole story. And here we are nine years later, we still don't have the whole story. And maybe the whole story is being hidden for many reasons, but maybe one of them is because it was a massive ritual. You know, it was a sacrificial ritual. I mean, like, and why would you do it at the concert?

There's so many other ways to go about doing such things, right? Like, you could do it where you have Stephen Paddock or somebody else go into a mall, you know, where there's mass amounts people, the casino, like the fact that it had to happen at the concert, you know, the ritual at the concert. So this was like maybe your first connection mentally to like music and ritual or? It was, no, not my first connection because I had listened to Clyde Lewis before I was a podcaster, you know? So I was very aware, but it was my first opportunity to get my hands a little dirty with it, you know,

and kind of reach in and start seeing what's what. And I can't remember the guy's name. The first guy that I talked to on that episode, him and I stayed in touch for several years after that. For the first one? Yeah. Rick? Rick, yeah. And he, he was a very solid dude.

Like, I mean, he was very grateful that he survived, you know? And so, I don't know. It's just that Vegas shooting itself is mysterious. there's a lot of it you know how when they pass legal things where you're in the government you know they'll get like a bill together everybody votes on it and then all of a sudden it's passed and there's all this hidden stuff inside of it right sure that's how it feels like with this because there's like the ritual side of it there's the foreign intelligence side of it there's just so many aspects of what happened in october 1st 2017

even with like the bump stock banning, you know, like Trump, Trump was like, what, a year into his presidency. And he is like, yeah, we'll ban bumpstock. And like all the Trump supporters like, what? Like, they're like, what are you doing, you know? And so there's like these agendas that were at play and these turning of the knobs. And that's what I feel like happens a lot with these rituals that are happening behind the scenes with the entertainment industry, music. It's not just one thing that's happening. and we often kind of get lost in the weeds, but also on the surface of things. We see something, we're like, oh my gosh, and we stop there. Your oh my gosh could get magnified by 100. If you go layers deep, who's good at that? Isaac Wysop.

Isaac is extremely good. I go in layers deep. Let's give him a shout out. Proper shout out to Isaac Wysip of pop culture. No, what's the? Cult symbolism. A cult symbolism and pop culture. I can never remember his show.

his name, but it's a good show. You should check it out. Isaac Wysop. So, I mean, the Vegas thing happened. But then there was also the Travis Scott stuff. Where were you when the Travis Scott stuff happened? Were you like somebody that, like, because the Travis Scott thing, very unsettling. But did you look at concerts and music the way you do today when that happened? No, I think that was a little more eye-opening, especially like the blatant, like, upside-down cross, the symbolism of like a hell to portal to hell. And I think I said, meet me on the other

side inside that portal. Going through the mouth of a giant face of him, of Travis, like getting eaten essentially. As you enter into, like a lot of really crazy symbolisms and then for people to be suffocated, you know, because of

the crowd problems. And then him to continue to perform. Despite people suffocating and crying for help, it makes it feel very intentional. Yeah. So you saying this has like these images flashing in my mind now. And Astro World, we were looking at it earlier,

people were walking through his mouth to go into Astro World, right? So like Travis Scott is setting up symbolically an environment for people to possess Travis Scott. You were coming into him. And so when you're in the concert, you are not an individual. You are already under his housing. And so when this is going on and the concert continues to go, and it is very, like, very ritualistic, you have already entered his body. And so he's in that almost like control of the moment. And they even said so in the news.

Like, why didn't you stop? He could have stopped. but he didn't because you have like is there is is there some kind of symbolic and even spiritual authority that you hand over when you unknowingly participate in a ritual of that kind i mean i think they they believe that they're goddesses and gods you know and then these other entities are working through them you know and i think there's a lot of evidence to support that i mean like even bioncé and her alter ego and like all this stuff like you know like she She's the goddess, right? And like, we see this blatantly pushed in front of us, but we ignore it because it's a little weird. And so it can't be true, you know, but I think we're seeing more and more and more evidence where they know what they're doing. They're very intentional about how they present themselves, how they wear clothes a certain way. Like, everything is super intentional. And they're slowly admitting all these things. And we have to pay attention.

It's super intentional, but also like more and more obvious. I mean, like when we were just looking through some of the Taylor Swift images from her. concerts. I mean, it's like, dang, like, because I don't look at the stuff. You know, I don't really follow her, her music or anything like that. But like, you know, it's definitely something that it's there, you know, the, the serpent imagery in her concerts where she will have, I guess, like, whatever this is behind you on the screen, like the serpent image, or behind me, this serpent image, like, that came from one of her concerts, you know, like, this shot is not her concert. This shot is actually two of her concerts put together. Yeah.

So we had one image of this snake thing at her concert, if I remember correctly, right? It's her concert. That's exactly, yeah. Giant golden snake. And then this other image of her in the mask with these dancers and stuff around her at another concert, we just kind of combined them. But like literally, we're taking pieces of a puzzle, put it in

together, and that's the picture you get. It is horrifying. Like literally. We had to change the background. Yeah. Oh, that's right. We did. Like the first image I made, we put it on the screen and Jack goes, I don't think we should use this. I'm like, why? He's like, it's like, it's a little dark. I'm like, oh, like, we should brighten it? And he's like, no, dark, dark.

I was like, oh, dark, dark. One reason why we're running late. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so it's, they're starting to, like I said in the beginning, putting it in front of your face, right? So the clothing that she's wearing, like, she's doing rituals on stage. She's wearing, like, witchy type cloaks.

the one image that we were looking at had a serpent like going around her, you know? Sure. And so there's a lot of that kind of imagery. You brought up Beyonce, which in our conversation before we went a lot, the chaotic conversation we had as we were trying to go live, we didn't even bring Beyonce up. So I'm going to bring something up. And Jack, if you feel like you can find it, congratulations. It's a little bit of an egg. If you can find the transformation video of Beyonce where she's doing it.

her performance and her face literally transforms. And when it slowed down, it looks like there's a demon manifesting her face, like total transformation. I remember, I was just talking to Lindsay about this the other day. I remember watching that and having to look away because it was like, whoa. It was one of the most grotesque, ugly looking faces I've ever seen. And it's not so funny, though, that like she's the symbol of beauty, elegance and all of it. But like at the core of it, is just vile and, like, hatred and impurity. It's like, it's so opposite. I think that's what's so crazy to me.

It's wild, man. You mentioned the alter ego. Her alter ego is Sasha Fierce. And I think she was on either Ellen or Oprah. And when she was on, she talked openly about having this, like, alter ego is what she calls it, where she feels it come into her body. And she calls it Sasha Fierce. And that's, she said,

that that's not me. I'm very shy, quiet, but when I get on stage, Sasha Fierce comes forward. And that's, it's like, I hear something over here. Yeah, I know.

Oh, okay, cool. I'm trying to avoid having it come through. Gotcha. No, you're good. Okay, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't. Hearing things. Over talking Jack's production. But,

so Sasha Fierce comes into her body, takes over, and this video that, I hope Jack can find it, because it would be really cool. I'm trying. Because I hadn't thought of this for a while, and then it just came up now twice in the last week.

It's vile. It's vile. It's not even vile. I don't want to say it's scary. It's just a very unsettling nature you get when you look at it. And I remember pausing it on the face. And I'm like, that doesn't look like her at all at all.

I mean, like to think about like, I actually was at a Beyonce concert way back when. I saw Destiny Image. Sinner. Destiny's Child. Destiny's Child. Sorry. How dare you?

I was in high school. They were just starting off. And, you know, they're doing their song, Bills, Bills. Like, at the time, they were like, most of them were Christian. I think they were all pastor's daughters and stuff like that. And you're like, oh, cool. They're like sort of Christian. You know, for back then, that was a big deal.

But like to think that now you're engaging with a person, you're actually maybe engaging in the demon inside of them more so than the person themselves. and that's kind of frightening. Is it not? Like, we're going to these concerts and we're actually giving our energy, our person, like our thoughts. And we're putting all that towards them.

And it really is, it's like a self-worship aspect of this. And it's really scary to think that that's what we partake in. Yeah. You know, I probably even posted this video online somewhere. I just can't think of where it is. But you're right.

You're right. And that's why I think it's important to have these kind of conversations. conversations every time every now and then because it's a good reminder to have to understand that the industries do not have your best intention in mind they don't have your children's best intention in mind they have their own agendas like if you think about just like the people who are making kids cartoons or you're the music or children are listening to they are individuals with their own belief systems and historically I don't think this was um I think it's it's more of a

reflection of where we're at in the timeline of things and anything else. But historically, you didn't know what their political affiliations were. You didn't know what they actually believed. You assumed they were a good person because they make good music. And, you know, how could they're not? Most people aren't evil in the world, right? For sure. And as time goes on in the timeline, they reveal more and more of their cards. And I think it's very important for us to then reanalyze as time goes on to just, hey, reminder for us, reminder for the people. These people that are making the music, making the kids' cartoons, they have their agendas, and they are now, because we're in an unchecked culture now. Now everybody's opinion matters. And now it's not,

let's create something fun for children as much as create something fun for children that subliminally gets them believing, thinking, and focusing on the things that we desire them to focus on. That's witchcraft in itself. That itself is witchcraft. And so forget the ritual side of things. Just obfuscating the will is witchcraft. Sure. And so it's very concerning. Yeah, I mean, that's like with Disney. And I know I was talking to Alexander's wife, Pagani. And then Bev Tucker came up and that she actually deep dove into Disney and like actually, she's an upcoming guest. Just how sinister really a lot of all that they've done the whole time, even with Walt himself, and how it's really masked with

childhood and nice happiness and all these things. And behind it, it's all dark and evil and very evilly intended. And so that's what's hard is like we want to think the best and hope the best. There's a point where I think we're just being naive and we need to actually like face the truth

of what's coming and what's out there. Yeah. No, I 100% agree with you. Jack, were you able to have any luck with that Beyonce video? No. Not even an image. I bet you I could find an image real quick and I'll send it to you. production right here, me and Jack are tag teaming it. Beyonce,

demon, face. That should pull it up. Was you using Google or duck. Go? That is a big difference. I was using Google. No, not Google, duck.com. And these are really funky faces, but it's not what I'm looking for. Well, you know, maybe they did a good job with deleting it off the internet.

That's where it possible. I can't find the, I know what video you're talking about. I just cannot find it right now. You know what's crazy is I bet you I have it on my phone. somewhere because that's the kind of thing that I would have saved on my phone. But unfortunately, I have like 20,000 things on my phone now. All these years of videos and all that, it just kind of piles up and stuff. But I, I, uh...

Yeah, I mean, there's channeling of different entities and different things. So, I mean, it's not just her. It's all of them. You know, like a lot of major stars do that. And, you know, to Derek's point, I think that's one of the reasons why there's like... Yeah, I found it. I found it. Goddess worship.

Sorry, Jack. What are you saying? Goddess worship. Goddust worship. Let me send this to you. Let me send this. Should I text it or what? Yeah.

Okay. Let me. There you go. So Jack's going to pull this up on the screen. And it is, we'll try to pause it on the appropriate spot. but it is like she's dancing and she jerks her head

and her hair flies in front of her face and it's like a mask flashing. This is like what, 10 years ago? No, no, it was probably I wouldn't say 20-20. Okay. Somewhere around there.

A little before AI or like right in the air? Oh yeah, yeah, it's definitely before AI. Yeah, see if you can kind of get her to... We have fiber optic. Stop buffering. Right. Did you see that?

Go back. Right around in there. Oh, wow. Wow. Like, there's a, there's a certain frame that it exposes the whole face. I mean, this is like very difficult to try and get. I understand. Right there.

Nope, that's not it. It's getting there. Oh, it's getting there. Is that it? Maybe. I had to be it. Yeah, it looks scary. I don't know. I don't know.

It's that video, though. That was the video you were talking about? Yeah, yeah. That's the video that I was thinking of. Okay. That wasn't the video that I was thinking of. I was thinking of a different one, too. I had like a blue.

like jumpsuit thing on and then I remember her face shifting. I saw her eyes change. That's what I was thinking too. There was one with like her eyes changed. So it was another one, huh? Yeah. Anyways. I don't know why that was. I got an easy on. I got super focused on it.

So you guys got to pull me back in. So it's like move on. Yeah. So like what brought all this on though was that like the recent interview that Taylor Swifted with Kelsey. Yes. And so I think Jack has that ready to get pulled up as well. And it was just so she's talking about Easter eggs, right?

how she intentionally puts Easter eggs and all the things she does because her fans love it and they love to overlook and like scan everything so intently. And so what she says though is really interesting because she's kind of giving her hand that everything she does has intent though.

Yeah. Like everything on the stage, everything in everything she releases as her as an entity, like a star entity, not like an actual. Well, maybe. She's working on.

Everything is very intentional because she understands that her super fans are always looking into everything. So if you're ready, Jack, go ahead. Okay. You tell me when to stop. You know, I want Easter eggs to be a certain thing where, like, if you are a part of the fandom and you want to experience, like, music in a normal way, then you don't even

see these. You don't even care what that thing is above that doorway in under that dimly lit, flickering light over there that's upside down backwards in Braille. You don't need to know what that is. I love this. Yeah. But if you want to look at that. But if you do, then it's there.

Do you know what I mean? Like if you know, you know. If you're in the, I'll pause real quick though. But like, isn't that exactly what a cult is, like to do things in plain sight? So you are engaging with it, but have deeper meaning like exactly as as she's defining it. Is it not? Yeah.

Like 100%. Yeah. Dude. If you know, you know, are you kidding me? Like that that's literally what we say they do, you know? And what she's doing is just pulling it back. She's pulling that mask back. She's like, listen, I'm King Witch here right now.

Like, I don't need to worry about anything. I'm going to tell you what's going on because this is what I'm doing. And honestly, this right here might be a ritual in itself. The exposing of it and the revealing of the cards might be a ritual of itself for her to gain more power and authority. Well, yeah, because then you're engaging with it knowing that it's happening. Yes. Which makes it even more dangerous for your engagement. Yes.

It's like, oh, I went to a Halloween party. I didn't know they were going to pull out the Ouija board. Then all of a sudden, you're like, oh, there's spiritual stuff going on. You're like, oh, really? I'm still going to go. And it's like your will is more and more directly engaging with a yes towards all this stuff. Yes. This might be a leveling up for her, you know?

Like you get to a certain point. You want the next level. You've got to do certain things. And, you know, like, This video is new new? Pretty new. They interviewed it, and I think it just got released, but I just saw a clip on it, like, recently. I would be interested to know timeline did this come out before or after Dolly passed.

The interview was before. The interview was before? Yeah. Interesting. Because I think what we're seeing here with her is maybe the long term stepping into a role to fill that has now been vacant. That's interesting. That's interesting. Yeah, what are you going to say?

No, Jack, can you queue up the video again? there's just one more part to that that I think is important as we go along this little storyline here. Man. Yeah. I want to listen to that 10 times. Let's talk about something I don't know. What is numerology? You threw that phrase out there.

Like, that's a comment. What is numerology? Do you don't know what numerology is? I'm assuming something with numbers. Yeah. Like I'm 87 and she's 13. Yeah. Literally it's that simple.

Just numbers. And 100. Yeah. 13 plus 87 equals 100. That's numerology. Like numbers that have a specific significance. Like, yeah, exactly. Keep it 100?

Yeah. Do you not keep it 100 ever? I'm trying to. I'm, I feel like, attempt to. It's crazy that you don't. What numbers do I have? You're submitting that like that. That's good.

Kylie. Like the intent, so right, the intention of what she's doing. So, like, everything is with intent and everything is based on this aspect of numerology. And she even has specifically talked. about 13 like crazy, right? Everyone knows that like 13's her number. Dates, releases, number ones, like all this stuff. It all accumulates around 13. And then he's the opposite. He's the 87, right? That's his jersey number for football, 87. And so that's why they were pulled together, came together. I mean, like, did he, she summoned him because he's in 87, right?

To create the 100? Yeah. Like who else is a big 87 out there that she could become this 100 that she wants. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes. And so... Talking about the arranged relationship that everybody speculated was happening. Mm-hmm.

Everybody that, like, when this happened, people were talking about this being an arranged relationship. Mm-hmm. And now she's coming out and essentially saying, this is an arranged relationship. And maybe it's an arranged relationship that's meant to go long-term, kind of like Jay-Z and Beyonce. Mm-hmm. That was an arranged relationship.

Because of her belief in numerology and these other things that they believe of. So it was fully intended for their union to become what it is. Yes. Dolly obviously understood that, right? That's why it was going to be such a special child, right? Because this was the 100. This is like what they're working towards. And it's funny, if you look at the difference between Jason and Travis, like, Travis, like, oh, you don't know that?

Like, you know, like, he's definitely much more involved. I think in this, like, witchy, witchcraft side, he understands what's behind the curtain a lot more. and it seems pretty evident. I mean, yeah, he's sleeping with a witch. The head witch, he's sleeping with her. Yeah, he knows. But honestly, like, Jason, I don't know if you, I don't know if he can get off the hook with it.

Oh, no, I'm not trying to get him off the hook. No, not off the hook, but, like, he's playing ignorant. Like, he doesn't know. Bro, he's your brother. And you guys are doing a podcast together. You, like, I'm sorry. Like, there's some level of understanding of everything that's being brought up on that podcast is discussed, because that's a huge podcast.

That's not like the confessionals where it's like, hey, come on in, we'll talk, and see where it goes. It's like, there's a lot on the line. You know, there's a lot on the line for that podcast, the relationships involved, everything. So him coming in, acting ignorant, I don't know. And I, you know, listen, coming from Philadelphia, Kelsey,

both of them, you know, but especially Jason, legend, you know, one of the Super Bowl with the Eagles, you know, he was the center and all, like, like, he's beloved, right? Oh, absolutely. But then you look at Philly and you look at the sports industry and this merger

with the occult entertainment industry, the occult entertainment industry. So O-E-I, that should be an acronym right there, the O-E-I, like the R-O-I-O-E-I. But the occult entertainment industry,

there's this merger happening with sports. And what you're seeing with her and Taylor, I couldn't think, or not Taylor. Is it Taylor Swift? Yeah, it is Taylor Swift. No, no, I couldn't remember Taylor Swift.

I couldn't remember her name. So it shows how it. much I actually care about her music. Taylor and Travis, it just shows that what we're seeing here is a manifestation of the merger between the sports world with the occult entertainment industry. And you have Jason playing ignorant with it, but I'm sorry, no. And also, Jason, your wife, seems like a smart lady. So she knows what her husband's involved with. And she knows what her husband's brother's involved with. Like, it's a family operation here at this point. Both have huge podcasts.

Sure. You know? On top of it, I'm just going to say it. It might get me in trouble. It might get me, you know, maybe I might not be able to get certain guests in studio if I say this,

but I'm going to say it. LeBron James, being in Philly, I don't have, I don't have a blueprint laid out here on how it works. But I was telling Lindsay the other day, maybe it was on the same conversation. I was talking about the other stuff.

It just feels, ritualistic. The fact that LeBron passes Kobe for, in the points leading list in Philadelphia, where Kobe's from, in front of Kobe who was sitting courtside, and then I think it was like a day later, or two days later,

it was like a couple days later, Kobe is in a helicopter. It crashes with his family or his daughter. He passes away in a helicopter crash. Now LeBron's back, and he's playing for Philadelphia, commuting to New York where he lives. He'll be living in Philly too, but in a helicopter. And they're making a big deal about LeBron James traveling in a helicopter, traveling in a helicopter

between where he lives and the arena, which is what Kobe did. And Kobe is the only one that I know of that ever did that. And maybe the others did it, but it was magnified in that. Why is it that LeBron is now in Philadelphia extending his career. Listen, I get it. He's still super good and all that, but it just feels like there's an underlying thing happening here. And

he's been doing it a really long time, right? So he graduates high school the same year I graduate high school. Dude's still playing at a high level, right? But maybe I wonder sometimes did he, like, so there's

conspiracies out there that Kobe kind of struck up a deal and basically was willing to die young for the rise of his notoriety in the sports world. Like he had the talent, but to get to the next level kind of thing, you have to do things. And the theory was that he was willing to die young and he did. And it just makes me feel like if that stuff's true, if this is true, are we looking at something where LeBron is actually fulfilling obligations that he has to fulfill in order to retire or else? And the helicopter is a reminder from the ones up top, hey, you're riding in a helicopter every day.

So do you remember your obligations here? Just saying, that's a Tony theory, but it just feels, it just feels ritualistic. We'll keep our eye out for the next year or two and see what happens. Yeah. I mean, best case scenario, the six years win a championship, and that makes me happy on an individual level. But it just, it kind of feels a little off.

But it's this merger between the music industry, the Hollywood industry, the sports industry, and it being an occult entertainment industry. And what you see with Travis and Taylor really feels like the manifestation of that merger. And what she's saying is that. Wait, I mean, this goes into... What are you going to say, Joe?

Go ahead, Jay. Yeah, I was just going to say, like, along the lines of somebody like LeBron having to fulfill part of what he's doing, you know, what he's doing, like to continue to play in order to fulfill part of the bargain or whatever. Like, Bob Dylan is the one that came out and said that in O.

and he said that he made a bargain and that he was still having to fulfill his part of the bargain. And like if Bob Dylan is somebody who's going to come out and say something like that, how many others are there that have done that in the past that have made those bargains? I mean, I would assume it's quite a few that are large and, you know, have prominent platforms like Bob Dylan, you know? So that's actually a really good poll, man. That's a good poll because that's documented on video. and that I wouldn't say

if we're talking about people giving allegiance to entities Satan himself, selling souls, all that stuff, and he comes out basically saying such, you'd be really ignorantly naive to think that he's

the only one that ever did that and it's the only industry that ever happens in. Because I mean like honestly, even if it's not like every single pop star, superstar, rock star or athlete are giving their soul to the devil, there's a devilish spirit behind some of these things. It's a prideful, selfish, you know, all of these drivers greed, you know, everything that comes with the desire for reputation, look at, you know, what Joel's testimony is about his own personal walk to his desire was

reputation and fame, you know, like, even if you're not giving over your soul to the devil and like the Bob Dylan made a bargain with the devil kind of thing, there's still a spirit and intentionality and all of these other things that consistently will weigh on that person and then we'll also draw them into darker things. Diddy and all this other stuff. Yeah. Right. Like the reality with the occult stuff is that there's a price to pay. So if you want something, there's also the equal and opposite thing that you have to give up to gain what you want. And so that's the problem with like all the occult stuff is like

if you will something to happen, like you have to sacrifice something on one end to achieve it. where like Christ already came to do that for us, so we have forgiveness of sin and all those things. In the occult world, there's still a price to pay. And so as they rise and as they do these things, they have to give things away. There was a famous guy out of England, Shane Lynch, and he actually called out Taylor Swift for her concerts being ritualistic.

Really? Yeah. I think Jack has the thing to put up. He goes, and he says there's multiple demonic rituals involving pentagrams, hooded figures, and fire ceremonies. So he was actually in the music industry and he ends up coming out and then there's an interview with him.

Jack, do you have that interview? Yep. Oh, shoot. I just got to interrupt right now and say I got a text message from Eddie at Legends and Lord Pizzeria. The book has been found. I planned the book this morning

at Legends and Lord Pizzeria. The book has been found. I'm going to send you a picture, Jack, and you can put it up on the screen. but the guy who got this, I don't have the name, he's also getting a free pizza today too. So he's got a free book and a free pizza. All right, go ahead, Derek.

I'm sorry. I like giving stuff away. That's good. Jack, you got that video. I've been in rooms at the top of the top, which albums are preyed over demonically. Music is prayed over demonically. That goes out to the world.

It goes out to the radio stations. goes out to the public. And when you see that stuff and know that stuff, it's frightening. What do you mean by that, Shane, prayed over demonically? Rituals, ceremonies, to give light to the devil, to Satan. It's a satanic music industry. If you look at what the music is today, the industry is today, for all your Sam Smiths, to your dojo cats, to your Beyonce's to,

they are so demonic, it's unbelievable. And we can't, it's in front of us. It's something that we kind of go, oh, it's just music. But it really isn't. It's absolutely taken over the world, taken over our children, and taken over everything that's coming to the times of world crisis. Yeah. And so this is where I want to switch to Miley Ray Cyrus, because she just had a new album

drop. And she has a new song out. And so what you were talking about earlier is on the new song. parts of it yeah like there's other things coming man just wait oh but wait there's more uh do you have the lyrics for that song jack which one um what's the new album song um different religion different religion yes uh yes i am just double checking so she actually just made a music video for this as well and my contention with it is this is hitting really innocent young people right and so you're singing these lyrics out loud in your car

and it is actually really frightening. Jack, you want to pull those lyrics up if you have them? Yeah. Sorry. We're not going to do that on the next one though, just so you're aware. I won't bring it up on the next one just because there's some... Yeah, there's some profanity.

Yeah. So, I'm one second. This is the one you're talking about, right? This verse. Yeah, yeah. You want to read it? So, like, yeah, go ahead. you can read it.

I got my own god. Headlights on, crawl the pavement, top down. I don't care if heaven is behind us. In the rear view, every passing exit, my faith is hard body, cracked leather. I mean, like Satan,

you want to go with a chorus real quick? And this is what you're going to be singing. It goes, I want to be saved by a different religion. I crave to believe him. We don't need forgiveness. I want to be saved by a different religion. Oh, oh, oh, I've got my own God.

Ugh. Yeah. Come on. was it like a uh or it was like a uh or it was like uh or it's probably like it's probably like yeah i mean so here that's just like my contention this is like literally a worship song to the man in crack leather like you know what he mean and that's satan himself yeah yeah i mean it honestly i mean yes but it could be also like a whole host of entities that have presented themselves over decades to these different bloodlines

families, you know, I mean, like, ultimately, like, one kingdom versus the other, but there's layers and structures to it. There's principalities. And, man, like, I mean, I'm with you. I agree with you. But there's just so much out there for people to get caught up in worship. When you, when you, we were talking about this theologically the other day, like the history of the worship of gods. These people, they might be far they're not monotheistic. So, like, they may not be very concerned about worshipping Satan as much as having a whole buffet of gods to worship, you know? And so, like, whatever they're describing might be just a god that they bring into the forefront for whatever purpose. But it's just a whole host of gods that they worship, which is exactly what has been happening since the beginning of time,

essentially. And so we see this over and over again. It's like this just rinses. repeat cycle throughout time of man worshipping gods above the god. And that's just a manifestation of that. Well, and it's interesting because if we're comparing this to Taylor Swift and Travis and how they have this like really special baby coming. So

is she pregnant or are they going to be trying to get pregnant? I think she's pregnant, right? I mean, uh, she's pregnant. Wow. Jack follows TMZ. Breaking news. I follow Taylor Swift. TMZ. We're breaking into the world that she's pregnant.

She's like, I am. Yes, Taylor. She is not. No credible public statement that Taylor Swift is pregnant. Interesting. May not need to be pregnant in her position. Well, that's interesting, too. Yes.

So, but with Miley's mom, her name's Tish, it actually, she said in a 2024 podcast that she consulted astrology about her own marriage to Billy Ray. So I'm just contending in the same way that 87 needs 13 is the same way that maybe Tish needed Billy to create a Miley. Say it one more time, a little slower. Okay, in the same way

that they use numerology, right, that Taylor Swift is 13, that Kelsey is 87, right? That Tish, Miley's mom, use astrology to make sure that her marriage, I was going to say astronomy, and that was going to be wrong.

I got to start over for me. No, but so, she is consulting astrology to make sure her marriage to Billy Ray is what she's supposed to be doing, right? So, like, you're using these occult, like, medium methods to bring marriage unity to create children specifically with the intent to do what? Yeah. Right? Yep. And so, like, is Miley essentially, like, a forerunner for what Taylor Swift's baby will be?

Yeah. Does that make sense? Oh, it makes total sense. And this is a question I want to tackle for the member. segment is, which is like what's the purpose of the next generation that you're conjuring? Like what is the reason that the conjurings happen? Because we have access to traditional means of having children. So what's the point and purpose behind that ritual? And so, Jack, do you have any thoughts?

I just saw the text message. I mean, like, that's hilarious, right? That's what happens when show prep is the way it was. Yeah. Oh, man. No, like, no, I don't have anything to say about that specific thing, but yeah. Cool. All right. I will say, though, that we're talking about two specific artists right now, Miley and Taylor, but, like, imagery as a whole across the board when we're talking about music videos, concerts,

you know, all of these things, album covers, everything. It's not just those two. I mean, it is legitimately all over the place. Like, that guy, what was his name? Shane something the one that we just watched, Derek? Whatever, it doesn't matter. The guy that we just watched

that was talking about different artists, he mentioned Sam Smith and Doja Cat specifically. And those are two that came, that I was immediately thinking of because Sam Smith had that song unholy that his Grammy performance was him dressed as a top hat devil, you know, and then...

Who's that? Sam Smith. And Doja Cat has a song called Demons. There's another one I think is called, like, Paint the Town Red. She's a silhouetted demon. And, like, you know, you also have people like M&M who took a bath in blood in one of his, in one of his music videos. And it's pervasive across the entirety of the music industry, whether or not, and this is where I would say it's like whether or not the artist as an individual is complicit or, or actually, it's not complicit, but partakes in those certain rituals.

I would say it could also be that there's the individuals behind the imagery, behind the, you know, the people who are the makeup artists or. or, you know, costume designers or set designers or whatever, directors, they can also be complicit. They could also be the ones that are putting this out there. Billy Elish is another one, another music video where she's basically like a black wing demon walking through Black Ouse. You listen to anything about on occult symbolism and pop culture, Isaac Weisshop show. He talks about Black Oos all the time.

Black Oos. Black Oos. Wow. There's so much, there are so many different artists that have put out these imagery, this imagery or this, you know, occult symbolism. And so it's really pervasive across the board in the music industry. And even if the lyrics to a song don't make sense, I mean, think about Pink's song that you've mentioned multiple times like a pill. I mean, what's the point of a top hat jester in the background other than it's a nod? It's an Easter egg to use Taylor's

term where, if you know, you know. That's where all of this, I think, is kind of tied together. It isn't just two people. Derek's just researched two people. But you could go deep on all of them. Even, what's his name? The rapper that passed away. Juice World. Juice World. Juice World's another one. You know, like, they, I don't know if he said it or how it all came together, but I remember seeing a video

that supposedly happened at some kind of ritual that he was at before he passed away. Like, there was a lot of... He said he was going to pass away. He was going to die young. Is that what he said? Yeah. So, I mean, and that's what kind of goes back to the Kobe Bryant thing. You know, it's like, I didn't hear Kobe Bryant say that, but there was these thoughts and these ideas being circulated around, and they could be

just, you know, made up rumors, but that he, to get to where he wanted to get to in this industry, he had to do some kind of agreements. Yeah. And so, man, like, I know it all sounds crazy and, like, how, come on, really? Like, you really believe that? And it's like, man, like, the more this stuff happens, the more you start seeing stuff, and then you start seeing the artist, like Taylor Swift coming out and saying such things. Like numerology was almost like a myth like 10 years ago. People like, like, people like, in our, and the consciousness of people. Like, it was just like, come on. Really, like numerology. And now you have the artist themselves saying, no, numerology. Yes. I put stuff in the concerts and people that don't know, they don't know, they have no idea, but the people who know

it's there for them. And it's like, this is actually what she's saying now. And so it's the entire industry that is coming forward and saying, oh, no, this is exactly. what we're doing. And again, there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah. And so your point, like, what are they trying to do? And then Miley's got a song called Mother's Daughter. And she goes, Hallelujah, I'm a witch. I'm a witch. Hallelujah. And then in the chorus, I'm nasty. I'm evil. There must be something in the water or that I'm my mother's daughter. So, like, again, the intention of, like, the mother herself being a witch, right? This is kind of like the whole aspect of, with Dolly again, right?

Dolly having that connection to the witch in her early aspects of her youth. And then the story's crazy. It's actually the witch is the mom of the character in the story, the biological mom that had to give her up for adoption. So like this genealogy, this is very intentional.

It's very purposeful for them and how they build up this kind of like anti-Christian occult that they're building. Yeah. You know, and then I just want to play this clip for you because I know this is probably blow your mind really,

quick. So this is, I'll start looking into Tish, her mom, and they have a podcast, and she actually has this interesting revelation about Miley as well. Jack, do you have that ready? Always. Man, he's juggling over there, too. Good job, man. So we're going to have you walk us through a morning ritual.

Okay. Because I do think, like, starting your day off with this could really, like, help with your manifestation. Which Molly does. She does. She does. She does a ritual every morning. She has a little altar.

She lights her. handles. She sets our intentions. Yeah. So I thought we could give the stoners a little morning ritual. There you go. Yeah. So she every morning puts her intentions to her little idol. Wow. Yep. And there you have it. There you have it. Proofing the pudding. It's again, though. I mean, how many times you guys say, right? They are putting it in front of your face. They're not hiding anymore. They're telling you, this is what they're doing. And, you know, when you get culture further and further away from the, from the foundations that, you know, we want. once we're in and abided by, it's easier for them to pull the mask off, you know? And so, you know, people want to argue and maybe debate, you know, the foundations of our country

and stuff. But like, just to say the culture in general has gotten further and further away from a Christ-like culture. And you can say, well, it never was. If you really knew what was going on. It's like, no, I get that. But on the surface, at least, the people on the surface dwellers were much more Christ-like than what the culture is up today. And the more that, you know, that happens, the more that these people can pull the mask off and just say, nope, this is what we do. We worship other gods. We do rituals. We have altars. We put you through mass rituals when you come to our concerts. And guess what? You're already hypnotized by our lyrics and our choruses. You will come to our mass ritual, even though we're telling you what it is. We know you're going to be here and you're

going to pay to be here, even though we're telling you, hey, we're doing some dark stuff. You're already trans to it. Hundreds of people were saying they were having, like, annesic, like, experiences at Taylor Swift concerts. This was on national news, that people were like forgetting parts of the concert. They were having these experiences. Like, you don't even know what was going on. It's almost like they're being bewitched, literally,

but while they're there. Yep, absolutely. And that goes in with people who have experiences with supernatural phenomenon, which, you know, the UFOs, abduction, that's the common thing. They don't even remember it happening. People go through experiences and they don't, they don't remember, or they don't even think to talk about. the experience with the people they went it through it on. So there's just a lot of that kind of stuff

happening. And I want to take things behind to the members now. So we're going to be doing a member segment here. We're bringing this part in for a landing. But one thing I want to, two things I want to cover here with the members. And listen, members, I want you to drop comments and drop your questions in the comments section when we go on to the other side here. But I want to cover what the purpose is for the conjuring for that next generation of baby. right so why are they doing that i don't necessarily have the answers but i want to kind of talk about this and also i want to kind of hit on this black ooze stuff too because uh i find that quite interesting um so everybody thanks for tuning in to slingshot nation live i hope you enjoyed this one

members do not go anywhere because we are about to go on the other side uh where we can have more intimate conversations all right and i jack's shaking his head no so we're going to keep on going here. Well, I just like to remind everyone that actually being bewitched is a biblical idea. So that's actually out of Galatians 3-1. It says, oh, foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you? So this is a legitimate thing. And these are believers he was talking to. Yes. Right? So these believers were bewitched by whatever was going on in Galatia. Yes. And so the same aspect is true for us in our Christian walk that we're not greater than being bewitched by some of these spells and spellcasting that's going on in our culture. Yeah. And that's why it's very important to be

rooted where you need to be rooted in Christ and you are careful with who you let into your presence through music, TV, entertainment, or physically. You have to be aware of what's being put on the table in front of you because you're not immune to spiritual attack. And that's what all this is, really. It's spiritual attack. And it's just something that I have really worked on over the years where through people talking to me on the show, I have really just kind of come to this conclusion that a lot of this stuff that we're dealing with is just layers, different layers of warfare,

spiritual attack on people, to pull them away from the foundation. Like you may even have a relationship with Jesus, but the mere fact of the experiences that people go through, that fact that they go through it means that they have this widening gap, between them in a relationship of Christ. Oh boy! Is that a slingshot?

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