The Confessionals - Something’s Happening in East Tennessee... and People Are Starting to Talk | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Something strange is happening in East Tennessee, and the stories keep finding their way to one small pizza shop. We’re joined by Eddie from Legends & Lore Pizzeria to share firsthand accounts ...from customers who claim they’ve encountered Bigfoot, Dogman, black panthers, UFOs, and other unexplained creatures around Highway 411, Madisonville, and the surrounding Tennessee mountains.Take Control of Your Money and claim $10 in US Stablecoin (USA₮)! Download now at http://wallet.rumble.com/Confessionals and USE THE CODE confessionals10Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890📕 Pre-order Tony's Book: https://a.co/d/0bJS3SaVBecome a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZEddie - Legends & Lore PizzeriaWebsite | Location119 Pedigo Rd, Madisonville, TN 37354-4426The Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyIVERMECTIN: twc.health/tonyVENICE AI: https://venice.ai/theconfessionalsRUMBLE WALLET: https://rumblewallet.onelink.me/bJsX/ConfessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh boy. Is that a slingshot? Yeah, yeah. Blinkshot season. Hey, let's run it. Grace hear me like, boom. I hate too bright. Welcome to another Slingshot Nation friend.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Thanks for joining me. This is going to be a good one. This is something that I have been wanting to do for a long time. And it's finally happening. It's finally happening. Thank God. Derek, how you doing, man? Good, man.
Starting point is 00:00:39 World Cup was great. Thanks for letting me go. We had a great time with family. Tell the people how that went. You had some really good seats there. Yeah, we bought them just secondhand. Randomly. They were second hand or was it like a...
Starting point is 00:00:51 It was like a the... Hold on. It was like a ticket app. Hold on. Hold on. Stop the press. It felt like you were buying bootleg tickets. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And then I was certain you bought bootleg tickets for the price you got them for. And the seats that you got, I was like, certainly, for sure. These had to be bootleg tickets that they couldn't figure out. I was very concerned until we scanned it. Whatever, it worked. That stadium's incredible. Mercedes-Benz Stadium is top-notch. And it's really cool.
Starting point is 00:01:22 The owner of the stadium, he only sells $2 hot dogs. What? Yeah, and it slices of pizza or $4. I'm about to become a soccer fan. Well, they have the Falcons and all those guys. Georgia Tech. Oh, that's at the stadium? Yep, Georgia Tech plays there, all that.
Starting point is 00:01:35 It was actually a very budget-friendly, but it was awesome. It was really cool games. Yeah. I mean, can you tell the people how much do you're tickets were? Yeah, they were, they were of $250. Which, like, from what we understand, is dirt cheap for World Cup? Well, we probably saw the two worst teams in the World Cup play each other. It's still the World Cup, though. It's still the World Cup, that's right. Was it jam packed? Was the stadium jam packed? It was $67,000 at the 70. Wow. So it was not fully
Starting point is 00:02:01 sold out, but it was really awesome. That's wild. That's well. That's cool, though. Great energy. And the funny part is, is all the South Africans, I think we're all Americans and South African shirts for some reason. Really? Because I kept expecting, like, the cheers to start up because you know how they get like really excited over their soccer team. And it was just a bunch of Americans. Like even like the wave would come around and in one section like no one would participate. So like when somebody scored a goal with it, what is happening? So when somebody scored a goal with this, they were going, USA!
Starting point is 00:02:29 Almost. Almost. But it was fun. It was an amazing, amazing experience. All right. So the experience you had at World Cup. Now, is there any part of you that has, FOMO of not being here with L.A. on last week's Slingshot Nation Live.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Oh, man. I watched it. You guys did a great job. Well, I know that. I know I did a great job. L.A. did. Karen hit a whole run with that. She killed it. Yeah, Karen was really awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And then, you know, I got to record with Karen and I got to spend time with L.A. So I didn't, I don't have that much missing out on all that. That's true. So you drove to Nashville three hours, picked up L.A. brought him here. So you had a three-hour drive with L.A. We had a one-on-one powwow, which just. really fun. He's such a fun guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Well, awesome, man. I'm glad you had a chance to do that. That was really cool. Jack, where are you going to be going next? No, no plans. No plans. It was awesome. I'm not going to the World Cup, so you know, I'm not that awesome, I guess. Are you doing all right, though?
Starting point is 00:03:31 I'm good. I'm very good. Good, good. I bring some Lackardy next time, okay? Jesus, I wish. Yes, I'll bring the Lackardy. You know what's funny in Indian? My mother-in-law's Indian. Lackery is a cane. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. So you said Lackety, like, perfect.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And I was like, where's your stick? Where's your walking stick? No, I learned that, I learned that word, driving truck. There was a radio host personality, Mike Misenelli. He did a sports talk radio in Philadelphia. Okay. And he would use that word whenever he's talking about, when he was, I'm never looked up the definition. I think I'm using it right. But like when he wants somebody to bring the hoodspot, the energy, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. It's like lacquerty. It's like the shine, right?
Starting point is 00:04:15 That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So I think I'm using it right. If I'm not, you know, let us know in the comments section. If not you're speaking Indian, so that's perfect. Let me know. You guys watching right now and stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Am I using it right? Get out your dictionaries, look it up. Put the definition in the chat. Let me know if I'm using it right. It's a lacrity. A lacrity. A lacrity. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Bring your alacrity. A lacquerty. Yeah, I like lacquerty better. You want to speak goodrati. Yeah. Listen, guys. guys, we had a great time last week, and we're going to have a great time this week. Before we get into what we're doing this week, if you guys have not heard, we're doing ticket
Starting point is 00:04:53 giveaways to the conference I'm speaking at Remnant Rising 2.0 in Missouri. I'll be speaking there in August. Jack has the dates for you, but we're giving away tickets for that event. So they said that I can give away six tickets. So for a six-week period, we're giving a ticket away a week a week right here on Slingshot Nation. Last week we gave away a ticket to a lady, not Angela. Andrea. Andrea. And she is getting a ticket. And now today is your chance to get a ticket as well. All you got to send us an email to the Confessionals giveaway at gmail.com. Give us your name. We put it on the wheel and we spin for it the next week. So this week is the week number two of six. We're going be spinning for her. I'm going to hand it over to Jack. Jack, who do we have today? Okay. So let me
Starting point is 00:05:38 share this real quick so that people can see the week. And we now have like, I think it's 92 names on the wheel. Dang. So it's quite, it's become a larger quantity of people. So hopefully the spin, I tried to adjust the spin to be. Dude, that was hysterical. I tried to be quicker and more precise. So if it's bad still, I'm watching it and it's going and going.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It's crazy that it landed on the line and it picked the name. I was like, that's not true. But she wins because it said her name so we can't go back. I feel terrible. And I was hoping for that. nice, like, subtle, like, click noise, you know, like, when it does it? I don't think. I'm not sure if I actually coded that one in there yet or not.
Starting point is 00:06:18 That's okay. So, Jack is making this. This is not a website. Jack made this wheel with Claude, I think. Yeah. So he's, like, coding, the vibe coding it. And so, uh, he, so Jack, what's your new position title here at the company? Uh, director of content.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Director of Content. And I made him director of content so that it encompasses everything I need him to do. But a big part of that is the AI department, making sure that we're up to snuff with everything that we need to do to create awesome media for everybody consuming our stuff. So, Jack, I'll hand it back over to you before I'm able on anymore. Here we go. So let's spin this thinking wheel. And I hope somebody is very happy that they won. I'm sure they need to.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Okay. It's still going to spin real long, I guess. No, it's good. Here we go. Okay. And Jesse is. Nice. Jesse H is the winner.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Congratulations, Jesse H. That's awesome. Awesome. Jesse H. What do we do now? Do we... I send him an email. So, Jesse H., we will send you an email to get more information, and I'll see you at Remnant
Starting point is 00:07:26 Rising 2.0 in Missouri. And what are the dates for that again? August 7th through the 9th. August 7th through the 9th. I'll be speaking on Friday night. I just found that out this week. I did an interview with Mike Kerr, who is the host. of the conference.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And I didn't know what we were going to be talking about when we sat down to talk. But, you know, obviously we're going to talk about the conference coming up. And he mentioned that I'll be speaking on Friday night. But beforehand, he said to me, let's talk about the miracle of salvation. And I was like, all right, perfect. So I basically told my testimony and shared how, like, I was a terrible human being. I still am, but I'm not as bad as I used to be. and how, like, literally, the whole experience at that funeral, which is very miraculous.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Jack, that day that that happened for me, remember when I was breaking it down and telling mom and dad and you and everybody at the reception? There was you, Lindsay, Tanya, mom, and dad. There's five people there. Out of the five people, how many were crying? Four. I think the only one that wasn't crying was you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah. Because he was just like, whatever, bro. You know, I was probably, you were probably, what, 15, 16 years old, something like that? No, I was in college. No, you were. Yeah. In 2014? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Okay, I can't remember anything. How old are you again? 30. 30 and single. Let's do it. Ladies, email. Cue the music. Email them.
Starting point is 00:08:53 The confessionals giveaway at email. That com. No, no. No. Exactly. Oh, shoot. Oh, that's so great. Yeah, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Don't do that, because it will muddy the waters in the email. It's going to create more work. Don't do that. Email him at. Email contact at the confessionalspodcast.com. In the subject line, say, I'm interested in Jack. We'll forward it to him. Okay? There we go.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I'm trying to help him out here. I'm being a good big brother. We almost got him in the bio data. You know what the bio data? I don't know what that is. So in Indian culture, you put a whole profile in. And it's about like height, weight, like what you do for a job, everything. And they actually have professional matchmakers to like go and find other Indian people.
Starting point is 00:09:34 So I was talked to him about it before. So what do you say? I mean, we put him in the bio data? No? Okay. No? He says no. We'll try again. We'll work on it.
Starting point is 00:09:43 We'll work on it. Anyways, congratulations to Jess A, Jessica H? Jesse H. Congratulations. I'll see you out there. Remnant Rising 2.0. Man, I'll tell you what, that was a long thing on it. That was fun. So, yeah, it was fun, though.
Starting point is 00:10:02 It was fun. Maybe we got Jack a wife out of it. So there's that too. Oh, he's winking at the camera. I love it. I love it. Those blues. That's supposed to be anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. I can't let it go. I really want to see him get married. I want to be at a wedding. I think his wedding is probably the last wedding I'm going to go to. So I'm sure I'll be invited to other weddings, but I'm not going. I'm not going to other weddings. So listen, guys, the book, The Confessionals, Exposing War in Kingdoms.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It's coming October 6th. As far as I know, it's October 6. It's going to be in October. Sometimes they say that the date changes a day or two. But it looks like October 6th is when the book will be dropping. We're doing pre-orders now. You can pre-order your copy. Now, this book is a book that I wrote, and it's coming out in October.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And it literally is me documenting the journey of how I come to understand the supernatural the way I do. And I didn't know this at the time. When I first started writing the book, I didn't think I was going to start in my childhood when I was a child when I was born. not literally when I was born, but it starts my childhood because when I started thinking about things that I've experienced in my life, like the supernatural has been tied to me since I was a child. And then when you when you see how it just all unfolds throughout my life into the podcast, how I've talked to people and had these certain very triggering conversations that really molded how, like my understanding of, oh, there's a lot of depth here.
Starting point is 00:11:25 That's what the book's about. And it really kind of paints this picture of, listen, there's a warring kingdom out there. And it's happening around us. And I expose that in the book. Pre-orders are available right now on Amazon. Links are in the description of this episode. The pre-orders are going off the hook. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Just the other day, I was sitting here in the studio, getting ready to do some recording for intros for the next couple of weeks of shows. And I went on Amazon just to pull it. I don't know what I was doing. I like looking at the book on Amazon. I just pull it up. It's exciting. I'm like, would you look at it?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Just look at it. It's on Amazon. Look at it. You know? No, in all reality, there's a slight change that needs to happen to the cover. And I was checking to see if they changed again. But Amazon moves slow, I suppose. The publisher told me that they put the submission through.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So I go on there and I see that there's another new release top ranking listed on it. And I click on it. And it's now number one in Supernatural as well on Amazon. So it's number one. And last I checked, it was still number one on ghosts and hauntings. and now it's number one in Supernatural. And it's not coming out until October. So that tells me that people are actually going and pre-ordering it to make it jump those ranks.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So please, if you're interested in the book, go ahead and pre-order it. All that helps. The momentum helps because on release day, Amazon will see that there's a lot of people interested in it and they'll hopefully push it to more people because the message in this book, I think, is extremely important and timely for today. So please go ahead. If you're interested, go ahead and get your pre-order today. the Confessionals, Exposing Warring Kingdoms.
Starting point is 00:13:02 By best-selling author, Tony Merkel. By best-selling, this is the best-selling book I've ever written. I've never written a book that sold this well before. It's amazing. It's a miracle. It's amazing. Maybe next week I'll come out with an e-book and it'll drop before this book and it'll just blow it out of the water.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But yeah, just go ahead and check it out, friends. And last thing I want to tell you that we did not talk about last week. And this is extremely important. I don't know how we forgot this, Jack. Can't tell you. I'm going to put it all on his shoulders, though. It's his fault. Actually, it's Derek's fault because he wasn't here.
Starting point is 00:13:35 He's usually one that writes the ship. Yeah, thanks, Derek. Yeah, thanks, Derek. You running around with soccer balls. Listen, everybody, I see it. So on YouTube dashboard on the back end, they call it the dashboard, the studio, YouTube studio is where you see the analytics and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And on the dashboard of that studio, there's always like three comments that pop up, like the latest comments on a video. And they're usually really nice. And so I assume that YouTube's just filtering the nice comments to me because it knows I have a very fragile ego. But they're really nice comments. But the comment that I see pop up a lot is,
Starting point is 00:14:10 where do I get the song that was at the end of the episode? Now, if you only consume the show on YouTube, you only get one version of the show. We make the show on YouTube very different than for the audio listeners because I started out as a podcaster. And when I came to YouTube, I realized that you can't produce the show the same because YouTube people do not want. certain things in their show.
Starting point is 00:14:29 They just want to get right to it. Like, we're wasting time today. You guys are getting used to it, though, I guess. I don't know. I even saw that. Like, when we started doing six-time days, we're like, just get to the show. I'm like, literally this is the show.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's us just hanging out, talking about things and topical stuff, whatever. But on audio, there's a whole experience. We have a musical intro, and I come in, I welcome people to the show before we get to the interview. I tell you people, you know, this, that, and the other. And at the end of those shows is usually,
Starting point is 00:14:57 as always a song, that plays. And a lot of times it's Joel Thomas from Free the Rabbits. He's a talented musician, and I love his music. And if I feel inspired, I make a song and it goes up. Well, people like those songs, and they ask, where can I find those songs? Well, now it's available on Spotify, Apple Music, and I think on YouTube, wherever you can get music. We have, what's called the Confessionals Volume 1? Is that what we called it? The Mix tape. Yeah, the Confessionals Mix tape, volume one. Do you have any information for people because I really don't know how all that works? I don't even subscribe to Spotify.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I don't listen to a whole lot of music to begin with. So I don't know how Spotify even works. I hit play on it the other day and there was a commercial. I was like, well, that stinks. Yeah, just go to literally any streaming service that you use for music. It doesn't matter what it is. It's going to be on there. And that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:15:47 You can search Tony Merkel or The Confessionals mixtape, either one. Yeah, I don't even know how to use Spotify. So I was just typing Tony Merkel mixtape, I think, is what I search. for and it popped up. You just had to search Tony Merkel and it'll pop up. And so we released a mixtape last week. This past Tuesday, we released a single, which was custom made for the episode with Isaac Wysop.
Starting point is 00:16:08 We call it Babelback. Man, I should have made a sample. We could have played a sample and really, you know, strong I'm in there. But, no, it's fun. I enjoy doing it when I have a chance and stuff. And when I feel inspired, sometimes I just don't feel inspired to do it. And I just don't do it. So that's when we put Joel's music in and it's just as good.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Anyways, go ahead and check that out. The playlist there, it's going to, it will rock your socks off. It's a mixture of hip-hop, EDM, rock. There's a, what do you call it, a scream something song? What's that style called Jack did you like? Metal. Yeah, yeah. Glass Chambers is a song, I guess.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It's, uh, the chorus is like, Glass Chambers, blah, you know. It sounds good. It's just not my style. It's good. It's not my style. But you'll like it. Go ahead and listen to it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 But yeah, so there's that. Stop asking me where you can find the music. Now you know. I'll try to remember when I see those comments. So to comment and just let's just let you know in the comments. And I also, YouTube just recently started allowing you to do voice memos as a comment back to people. And I don't think everybody can do it, but the person who owns the channel can do it. And so I got to start remembering that because that's so much easier to comment back to people just, you know, so the voice memo is done.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And it's more personal. So all right. Those are the announcements. We have one more thing. I hear we have, is rents due? Rents do. Oh, yes. Oh, my gosh. Got to pay the bills. Yes. So we do have a sponsor for today. We do have a sponsor. Rumble Wallet is our sponsor today. So how much control do you have over your money right now? Technology has changed everything. And now it's changing how money works. Crypto started as a niche, but now it's going mainstream. Faster payments, more control, fewer middlemen. This isn't hype. It's just where things are going. And getting started today is easier than you ever could think. With Rumble Wallet, you can buy Bitcoin, hold dollar-backed stable coins, even own digital gold-backed by real gold all in one place.
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Starting point is 00:19:15 It's not just a random sponsorship. I've been communicating with Rumble for well over a year, actually longer than I've actually been streaming on Rumble. And I like Rumble a lot, and they are actively pursuing trying to get their tech side of things going on a higher level. So I think in the next five years, you're going to see some major moves off the platform Rumble. And the Rumble wallet is a pretty cool step in that direction. So if you're into the cryptid stuff, check out Rumble.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Rumble Wallet. We love, I love, did I say cryptid? Well, if you're into the crypto stuff, you're at the right spot because we're going to be talking about crypto today, but also crypto. I love crypto. I, and just one guy said to, it was just the other day I was talking to somebody. He's like, crypto's going to zero. And I was like, cool, I'll buy it all. Crypto, listen, I'm telling you right now, I'm not telling you, this is not financial advice. I'm not telling you what to buy. But I'm just saying, if XRP goes to one penny, I'm buying it all. And I'm just going to wait for that bounce back.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So here's the thing. I'm already for the bounce back. I've lost money. I'm already in the negative. Might as well add more to you. Just trust the process, baby. Yeah, they're worried about security. I think that's the way.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Whatever, dude. Whatever. Here's what it is. Here's what it is. They're trying to make it go down low. So everybody sells it. And then the government's going to come and buy it all. and then it's going to go to the moon.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm just going to ride that way, baby. All right, today we have in studio, Eddie, from Legends and Lore Pizzeria. Eddie, how you doing, man? I'm doing great. Dude, I'm so glad you're here. You are somebody that I've talked about for years on this show. And I don't know if you've talked to people like this,
Starting point is 00:21:08 but I have had people email the show saying, I remember this one lady said that she drove up from Georgia to visit your pizza shop. Yeah. Because you heard about it on the show. Yeah. Isn't that wild? It blows my mind.
Starting point is 00:21:20 It really does. Yeah. Now, for people to understand, the image is behind me is because Eddie's here today. And that is a, what did you say, like a 90, 80 to 90% accuracy of your shop? Yeah, it's very close. I essentially pulled images off of Google Maps
Starting point is 00:21:40 that people have taken inside the shop and made this rendition. But your shop is decked out with cryptid, paranormal stuff. It is obviously Legends and Lord Pizzeria geared in that direction. And it wasn't always like that. At one point you had a, what was it? Was it a franchise that you were part of?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah, it was another franchise. I can't say the name. Right. That's why I handed it off to you. Yeah. But they wouldn't let me do what I wanted to do. I had to specifically sell their items, even though I had these really cool.
Starting point is 00:22:17 cool ideas for menu items. And I was using their materials to make them. But when they got wind of it, I started getting nasty emails. You need to stop selling this, even though it outsold their stuff. Yeah, so do you like money? Exactly. Exactly. So came time for renewing the contract.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And I said, I'm out. I'm done. I want to do my own thing. And this was 2020. Wow. COVID. Big step. COVID. Unshare times. And my initial plan was to close down, redecorate, reopen in 7 to 10 days. That turned into seven weeks because we couldn't get permits. Government offices were closed. But it was nice to have the time off because I had worked almost 10 years, seven days a week. Wow. So I was done with that. Yeah. So you open up the new shop, Legends of Lord Pizzeria, and you basically lean into your own interest. This was not a gimmick.
Starting point is 00:23:34 It's like, oh, you know, I see people having these Bigfoot stickers in East Tennessee. You only lean into that. You're actually into it because every year, smoking out of Bigfoot Conference, you and your wife, front road seats. When I spoke there three or four years ago, you were sitting. right there in the front row. This is like your passion and you just turned it into your working environment. And I love it. And the success that you've had at that pizza shop now because you've leaned into your passions
Starting point is 00:23:59 and desires is through the roof. Every time you and I talk and we talk on the back end of things, you know, not for public stuff, but like how well things are going for you, I love it. I love it. Let's just put it this way. On the weekends, you have lines going out the door. Is that right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Out the door down the sidewalk. Yes. Yeah. I mean, and it's crazy because this shop that people are seeing on the image behind me and Eddie, it's not an exaggeration. This place probably seats max, 20 people, 25 people? 25 people max. You could easily put, if you got a dining room of 75 chairs, you'd fill it.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yes. It's wild. And the pizza is great. And listen, my favorite. my, this is going to, this, it sounded gross to me, too, until I tried it. My favorite pizza at your shop, now you have themed pizza, so you have the Sasquatch pizza, you have the Wendigo pizza, the Mothman pizza, all this different stuff, and you have tons of different pizzas. They're fantastic. I think the Sasquatch pizza is like a meat lovers type pizza,
Starting point is 00:25:06 and it's great. I mean, I'm a meat lovers anywhere I go. But the one pizza that as far as I understand, not have any kind of crypted name attached to it is my favorite. It's called the pickle pizza. And I'm telling you guys, don't knock it until you try it. That's really good. Because he told me about the pickle pizza. I was like, okay, I'm going to be a nice guy. I'm going to try this. And then once I tried it, every time I go in there, that's my order, right? Yep. Last time we were, me and I think it was you and me went down there a few weeks ago. And I was like, Derek, get what you want, but I'm getting that pickle pizza. And so anyways, dude, I'm so glad you're here because part of the cool thing about your shop is that you have people coming in who are also interested in these topics and they tell you stories about what's happening in the area.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You're in Madisonville. That's about 30-minute drive, 25, 30-minute drive south of the studio. And you're right there in the thick of it. I mean, this is an area that Scott Carpenter researched heavily back in the day. and it's like there's a lot of crazy stuff that we're going to get into that happens in the area of Madisonville, Tennessee, in the surrounding area, the Appalachia area,
Starting point is 00:26:24 East Tennessee, and people come to you in your shop because they're like, this guy will believe me, and they share stories with you. So was that part of the intent behind doing the... Did you ever imagine that people be coming into your shop to share with you their experiences
Starting point is 00:26:38 of the strange and unusual? No, not at all. Not at all. Were you prepared, for it though. No. Were you ready to sit and chop it up with them and say, okay, tell me your story. Are you taking notes or anything?
Starting point is 00:26:50 You just, are you just a set of ears for them? It started out just listening, you know, just curiosity. And I thought it was really neat. And more and more people started coming in. There weren't that many stories about Bigfoot back at that time. Occasionally someone would come in and say, oh, I had this experience. a few years ago, but it wasn't long before people start coming, hey, this happened last week. This happened yesterday.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And the stories have gotten just, I mean, it's unreal, not just Bigfoot. There's dogman stories. There's UFOs being cited. And, of course, hauntings everywhere. Yeah. I've got a team that I've been an investigator for 35 years. And we've done the last time I've tried to sit down and figure out all the places that we had investigated. We did over 300 investigations just around Monroe County.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Wow. Yeah. That's wild. And there's no shortage of investigations to be had there. No. I mean, the area is wild. When I moved here, I was in love, and I still am in love with East Tennessee. I love East Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And I had people emailing me saying, I'm so glad you're here. I'm glad you love East Tennessee. Stop talking about it. They're like, because you're going to bring everybody else here. And sure enough, here we are four years later. And this area is exploding with people. Yes, it is. So we are, East Tennessee is closed.
Starting point is 00:28:36 We are not open for business anymore, unless you want to go to get. Gatlinburg or Pige and Forge for some tourist stuff, you can go up there. And if you go up there, you'll have some really interesting experiences too because we have something we want to talk to you about that just apparently recently happened up there on the mountain. Now, on today's show, I want to talk about, I want to get into this Pige and Forge video that was up there. I want people in the comments section and the live chat to let us know their thoughts on what
Starting point is 00:29:02 it is. And then I want to talk about some of these stories that are coming into your shop, Eddie. And I was going to talk about something else, but we're going to forego what I told you guys. Did you didn't have, I told the guys before we started the show, I said, I got a story that I'm going to share with you guys. You know nothing about. Trust me. And just roll with it. And we're going to push that off for another week.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So don't worry. Breathe easy guys. You don't have to worry. Oh, man. I did tell you a name, though, don't you dare look it up. I want the surprise when I bring it up. Don't you stink and study. Bad with names, so you're lucky.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Good. This guy research. all the time. You say one thing that he's like, oh, I just, I just did research. I'm like, I just told you five minutes to go, yep, here's all the information. I was like, ah, you know. But there was a video that came out, and I'm not sure maybe Derek knows when this happened, but it seems like it happened recently up on Pige and Forge. So Pige and Forge, Gatlinburg, Tennessee, we're probably about 45-minute drive from there right now where we're sitting. It is a tourist trap. And it wasn't always like that. It was a beautiful. beautiful mountain towns, and then I guess the board members or whoever is in charge of decision making for towns, decided, you know what would be a really good idea? Let's make this place look real ugly. The uglier you make it, the more people will come to admire the ugliness of it. That's the way I look at it, because I go up there and just like, ugh. But when you see pictures of what it used to be, I'm like, now that's beautiful, you know? So up on the mountain
Starting point is 00:30:35 in Pigeon Forge, supposedly this was shot by, I guess, people visiting, and there was these really strange lights appearing on the horizon. And as these lights were appearing on the horizon, people even suggested, is that a Ferris wheel?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Or maybe Derek suggested that. But it's definitely not a Ferris wheel, but I want people to let us know what do they think of what we're about to show you? Because keep in mind, it is a tourist location. So is there something to do with entertainment when it comes to these lights that are being visible up on the mountain.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It looks like a ferris wheel. I know it's firework. That's crazy. It has to be because it keeps disappearing. Yeah, oh my God, that's cool. Now, it keeps, it does evolve from here, so just keep watching because it gets more, I think it gets more interesting. I don't think Dolly was that far away from here, Tony.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah, it's not that far away. That's creepy looking. It's like two different rings. Yeah. I'm really on this house. Now, it looks like a light show to me. It goes away. That's probably a tower on the mountain.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I'm really losing my mind. I feel like I'm really losing my mind. But then look what happens here. Never. Why is it blurred? Oh, yeah. Now it looks like aliens. It looks like aliens.
Starting point is 00:32:13 She said it. Not me. Not the moment. I really thought I was losing it. Don't worry, dear. We're all seeing it together. All right. So she said it looks like aliens.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So therefore, it's aliens. Okay? If I had crazy hair, I show you. Even though I do have some hair today. There's a bit of a shadow. happening here. That's why I'm wearing a hat. I didn't get a chance to shave my head. But actually, okay, no. All right, I'm going to do it. Let me just do one real quick. I need a public opinion poll here, okay? Should I try growing my hair back? Okay? No plugs.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Okay? It's thin on top. I'll admit, it's thin on top, okay? But there's this dude that keeps popping up on my Instagram feed. He's in Kentucky, and he cuts people with hair. People come from hours away to have him cut their hair. And they're, and they're, and, A lot of these guys have thinning hair, but it's long and shaggy, but it's thinning hair out tough. And the way he cuts their hair, it looks awesome. And I'm like, I too could have awesome hair. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I don't even know what you would look like anymore with hair. Awesome. It would be so weird. He talks about shaving his beard like two weeks ago. Oh, yeah. Speaking of, it's still creep, that baldness. Look at that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:32 The baldness is creeping up my chin, man. It's creeping up my chin. No one's going to know you. If it goes in, if it goes much higher, I don't know if I'll be able to hide it. I'm going to have to just keep it, I guess, keep it longer. But like on this side, you can see the bald spot that I, the longer it gets, the more it hides. But there's a bald spot there and there's one here. Man, I'll tell you what, getting old stinks.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Anyways, back to our business of the day. Ali aliens, yes. So you should grow out. That, that, uh, what, my beard? Your hair. Oh, my hair. I'm probably going to do it. Why not?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Uh, yeah. So those lights on the mountain, though, I mean, it's Pige and Forge, right? And so could there be a light show or something like that? Because that's what it looked like. It looked, honestly, probably a portal. Probably portal opened up on the mountain, you know, and we just witnessed a portal, and we're all going to say it's AI or fake, right? But what's the consensus opinion in the room here?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Eddie, you saw what we just saw? What is your take? As a veteran local, what's your take on it? I have no idea. Wrong answer. It's always portals or aliens, Eddie. Come on. I told you before the show.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Probably the best thing to do would be find the area where that was taken. And in the daytime, look up there on the mountain, see what's up there. There's so much up there, man. It's possible it was a light show. I wouldn't rule it out until you found out, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just looking at the video, it looks to me like some kind of light show.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I mean, there was, I think it was in Hawaii. There was this whole drone light show that people were like, what is this? And it was drones, right? And so easily, even those lights afterwards could be drones that were popping up. But it is, I find it interesting. And some of the mysteries that we know happen up on the mountain. And you always wonder, like I do. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I want to put words in everybody else's mouth. But I wonder, when people go missing up on the mountain, there's this missing for one, stuff and they seemed like they just disappear. What does that look like? We have the idea of somebody that just goes missing. They're gone. And that's what we talk about. They're gone. But what did that look like
Starting point is 00:35:46 at the moment they left? Was it a flash and they were gone? Was there a slow dematerialization? And I'm talking strictly disappearing into another realm right here. Okay, welcome to the weird. Because maybe Bigfoot took them. What does that look like? But like if they're transitioning into another state of existence, what does that look like? Is it a slow progress? Do you see a
Starting point is 00:36:08 flash of light? You know, the UFO dropped that we had a few weeks back and stuff. The FBI, the first one, the FBI released a rendition. It wasn't a real photo. They took a picture of the location and they put it on top, a rendition of a flash of light and like an oval type craft coming out trying to depict what the people, multiple witnesses said they saw. So does it look like something like that. Is there a manifestation that happens when this mysterious stuff takes place? And would it look like that? You know, I don't know. Now, my gut says that was probably some kind of light show. But I don't know. I don't know what that stuff looks like. But you hear people talk about portals. We had a guy on the show years ago who literally, he's in the desert of Joshua
Starting point is 00:36:55 tree. I always forget the number of that. A guy who remembers all these numbers. 512. It's because it was a stretch of five, it was like 510, 511, 512, 513 or something like that. It was like four episodes that was just like mind-blowing for me all in a row and that was one of them. But he talks about, he's out in the desert of Joshua Tree and he sees this, I think if I remember correctly, it was like a green portal opened up in the sky. And it's like, so, so if he sees that, is that the rule? Every time something mysterious happens where it's coming in from another realm comes through a portal that you visibly can see, I don't think so. Because I think that you have hauntings and things that happen in people's homes where things manifest from somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:37:37 You don't see a portal. They just manifest and materialize, right? So I find that video interesting. And a few years ago down in Chattanooga, I don't know if you remember this, Eddie. There was some viral images going around. Jack, see if you can find him and pull up a ball and talking about it. You probably won't be able to, though. Chattanooga in the Appalachian Mountains, somebody took pictures of a portal that was opening up.
Starting point is 00:38:02 But it was also right when AI first was starting to hit. And so people were saying, oh, that could be AI, but it was multiple angles, which I don't know if we had the AI ability to do back then. And it was super clear. It was like what we have today two years ago. But that supposedly happened down in Chattanooga. And that was a broad daylight picture. So before we move on, any final words on verdicts here? So there is the Smoky Mountain Wheel, but that's like in the downtown.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Is it like a Ferris wheel? It's a giant Ferris wheel. It's got lights on it and everything. But like that's in the town of Pitchin Forge. It's not on the mountaintop. Whatever, whatever that was that we saw in the video was massive. Whether it was a light show or something material, it was massive. I mean, because what you're seeing is a ridge full of massive trees and it dwarfed the trees.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah. So we're talking about something that's. Absolutely huge. There are really high-end hotels on the mountaintops, too, though. Like Blackberry, is it Blackberry Farm or whatever it is? I can't remember exactly the name of it. But that's where, like, Kid Rock goes out here and he goes up on the mountains. It's like, Kid Rock comes out here?
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah, $2,000 a night. Yeah. What? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Ball with the ball. Ball with the ball. But there are, like, I wouldn't be surprised if a place like that did a light show for their
Starting point is 00:39:20 millionaire customers that are coming out in the hilltops. I mean, that's a possibility as well. Totally. Millionaire customers come out, billionaire customers come out, and they're like, I want a light show that makes me think I'm being abducted. You got it, boss. You got it. You got it. That would be $500,000.
Starting point is 00:39:39 No problem. Money's not a problem. Perfect. A million dollars. But the lights at the end are like honestly, probably the most convincing part of it. That's what I thought. As it like materialized into something else, unless those were the drones itself. I mean, possible.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah. So speaking of lights. and anomalies that are happening, there has been this uptick of, I think science has been calling it asteroids coming in for a landing here on Earth. You know, we had it in North Carolina, we had it in Michigan, I think it was Michigan,
Starting point is 00:40:11 relatively close to one another. People were saying they had these loud booms and there was this thing coming in. Well, a few weeks ago, which I'm highly disappointed that people didn't care for this video. I thought it was a great live, but people, I heard some bad.
Starting point is 00:40:25 reviews. But we talked about the idea of volcanoes being portals to or access points for these UFOs. And the reason why we did that is because there's a video going around of a green streaking light shooting down to a volcano and it lands behind the volcano. It's all captured on video. And then in the direct path that it landed, like maybe what, 15 seconds later? a white orb starts coming up and moving around. And so like just, you know, one plus one equals two kind of thing. Direct path, this thing crash lands. And then something's flying around from that.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And it's not ash. It's not fire. It's not, you know, anything that you would see more than just one. And from the distance that you're seeing from the POV of the camera, like you're looking at something that's massive floating through the air and moving around. And there was no impact. There was no impact. no impact. They said it dispersed like right before surface. Yeah. It's crazy. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:41:30 and that's not the only time. I mean, all over the world, there's weird UFO activity that's going on around volcanoes. But the video out of Hendersonville, Tennessee that you brought to my attention before we went live, our friend, Pastor Todd Coconado of Remnant Revival Church out in Henderson posted, Hendersonville, posted a video of an event that happened that apparently was caught on multiple cameras. The one he posted was from inside a car. His car, I don't know. It probably wasn't his car.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I doubt, I think if he filmed that, he would have texted me. We're like, dude, I have nobody else to talk to about this. But he posted this picture or this video of a green streaking thing going across the sky. that looked identical to the volcano green orb streaking thing that had a, what I think, a UAP unidentified flying object, whatever you want to call it, flying around after the supposed crash at the volcano. It looks almost identical to me. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Doesn't it? What about you, Jack? Mm-hmm. I agree. Eddie? Yep. Yeah, he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Do we have that video?
Starting point is 00:42:46 Cool. Let the people see it. I mean, that looks identical. I'm actually going to mute that. Dude, I don't know if that's copyright. Sure. And do you know what really weirded me out is I'm watching this? And then at the end, the streetlight going up that he's passing.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I was like, dude, it's flying by his car right there. I'm like, what? It's turned. Do you have any of the other videos that Derek sent over? I know he sent one. But because I think that one had multiple different angles. Yeah. But this happened recently, I guess, Derek.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Do you know? I think like a week, 10 days ago, something like that. Out in Hendersonville. And so, and actually Hendersonville, never mind. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say what I was going to say because I was about to dock somebody. So accidental docksing. It happens.
Starting point is 00:43:44 It happens. You get excited. Yeah. But you ready for that, Jack? Yeah. Go ahead. Bring that bad boy up. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Would you look at it? Just look at it. You know what's owned it. Right, Jack? Oh, yeah. At Bassmaster. There's definitely some people that get it. Ed Bassmaster is a local from Philadelphia that went viral.
Starting point is 00:44:04 So that one looks like a meteorite. No, it's a UFO. Because of how it like... Nah, it's UAP. The one that was up. So like you see how it kind of like trails off and then it's gone and you have the little spark at the end? Totally aliens.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Okay. Stop ruining my show, Jack. We're here to talk about aliens, not asteroids. I think the ship just cooled at the right moment. man. So that's what happened. That's what it was. Yeah, it's just, the flames are gone. You don't understand this Fallen Angel technology, Jack. Right. I don't. Okay. Back off.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You don't know what you're talking about. I do, though. I know all. Anyway, it's pretty interesting, though. I thought it was interesting. This I'm glad you brought it up. But so we got the Pigeon Forge on one side of Madisonville. We got Hendersonville on the other side of Madisonville. Now let's zero in on Madisonville, okay, and the surrounding area. And while we're doing videos, I'm going to bring up my go-to. I think that this thing is what, I think is what you led with when we met. I can't remember, because you've told me several stories, Eddie.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But you told me at one point where I was down at the shop and you tell me the story about how people came into the shop and they told you that they saw something, they had video of it. You tell people how this all unfolded. Do you remember this? Like how this happened? Vaguely. Tell me what you remember these people telling you that you gave me this video from.
Starting point is 00:45:38 They were driving down the road. It was a guy and his mother. And off in the field, they saw something walking. And they could tell it was really big. And he zooms in with his phone. So it's really choppy. But you can see it's walking on two legs. it's huge.
Starting point is 00:45:59 And then it falls down on all fours, and it's like a deer. It's gone. And I had the video. I sent it into a North American Dog Man project. Because being on all fours, I thought maybe it's a dog man. And they stabilized the video, analyzed it, got back with me. And he said the head is conical shaped and the ears weren't on top like the dogman reports. So, sorry, I'm hurting.
Starting point is 00:46:33 He said that he thought that was a Sasquatch because a friend of mine went out to that field and stood in the same place where they got the video for a size comparison. My friend is six foot, about 2, 235, 240 pounds. and North American Dogman Project said that based on those measurements and weight of my friend, this thing was 8 to 9 feet tall and about 800 to 1,000 pounds. Wow. Wow, that's massive. Yeah. That's massive.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Yeah. So the field, is it in, is it in Madisonville? Where's the field at? It's five minutes from. Five minutes for the shop. Yep. Oh, man. Five minutes for.
Starting point is 00:47:25 That's not an advertising. I don't know what else is. If you're watching this right now and you have any inkling to come to East Tennessee, come to Let's just a lower pizzeria, you're within five minutes of where this happened. And you're going to see the video here in a second because I have the video.
Starting point is 00:47:39 You sent it to me, and I had done stabilizing on it myself. What you're about to see is not, I think, my final stabilization. I just couldn't find my final stabilization. So I'll have to try again sometime, I suppose. But it is hard. You can see a lot more on, what I'm sending, we're going to show.
Starting point is 00:47:59 From my perspective, when I see it, there's somebody, something walking on two feet. And I say somebody because my first thought was, is it somebody in a gilly suit? That's what I thought. The problem with that is, every gilly suit I've ever seen isn't gray. And this is gray.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And that goes right alongside with these cryptid ideas of people saying, I saw a gray dog man or a gray bigfoot. In fact, in the mountains here, there's a lot of people who say they've seen a white big foot. And when they describe it as white and you look at the video, you're like, yeah, I could see where they would say that was white, like a white, grayish tone to it, right?
Starting point is 00:48:41 You see this thing. It's massive walking across the field. And then it drops down on all four. And for me, like, that was the selling point. Because I was like, if this is somebody just walking in a suit. You can't move like. And the video cuts off. And I want to say this before we go and sharing, the video, the video cuts off right there,
Starting point is 00:49:00 but you listen to what the reaction of the people are. They were stunned. Were they stunned when you talk to them? Yes. Did they come in right after it happened? It was a day or two. Really? Man, dude, I wish I knew you back when that happened.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Like, if something like that happens again, call me right away. And if I don't answer somebody to text message, be like, bro, you need to get down here now. Because I'm going. I'm going. And I'm bringing my guns. It's great. This is in daytime. This conception that you have to like midnight search for Bigfoot, I think, is like so ridiculous
Starting point is 00:49:34 because all the best sightings seem to be during the daytime. And you can also buy pizza in the daytime. And so it's... Where can you buy pizza at, Derek? That's right. Legends of Lord. Legend of Lord. Pizza.
Starting point is 00:49:46 What are your hours? Jack, pull the video up because I, I, I, I, I, I've showed this before on the show, and I've talked about it. Every time, this is something that I will, and I haven't been asked to talk or speak at a conference in a while, but whenever I do go to a conference, this is one that I try to bring out if it's relevant, because it's, for me, it's good. It's really good. Show the people what we're talking about and let them judge us.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Not somebody. No, it's not. As a person, not a person. All right, mute that out and just keep it playing. Langeck while we talk about it. So she's like, that's somebody. So we don't have the context beforehand. So obviously they see it.
Starting point is 00:50:37 They're confused by it. They get the phone out. He's filming. He zooms in. And you hear her saying, that's somebody. So she's thinking, all right,
Starting point is 00:50:44 this is going to confirm it. It's somebody. He's like, no, it's not. Now, do you know who was filming? It was her or him? I think it was him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:52 So, and that makes sense because you see it drop down on all four. And you hear him go, he's like, what did I just see? But he told you that it took off then, right, into the woods? Yeah. Man, I wish I could see it. I wish I could have saw it. I wish I could have been there.
Starting point is 00:51:14 If that ever happens again, call me. Like, dude, within the last hour, there was a big foot in this location. I'm on it, bro. I'm freaking on it. That's really cool, though, that you sent it in. and then they said that it has a conical head, and then it's most likely not a dog man, because it gets into the crawl again.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Like, we're, like, we're seeing, and it looks like it's, like, jumping a ditch or something that it, like, instantly, naturally just moves into an all four position. Yeah. And maybe that's when it turns and sees them recording, and then it decides to take off. So there's a guy, and I doubt Jack has these handy,
Starting point is 00:51:46 but there's a guy, because we did do it on the show once before, the spider crawl in Ohio with Corky. There's a guy in, in Ohio. and the first time I ever heard of this guy was way back in the day. I had just discovered Sasquatch Chronicles. I was not a podcaster. I was just a trucker listening to weird stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And this guy, Corky comes on the show and talks about the Bigfoot that are on his property in Ohio. And what he always stood out in my mind was Corky said that he would let people come to his property and camp out with him and be part of the environment. And that I always caught my attention because back then I was like, I'll do that, you know? Because, like, I'm trying to show the world that's not hard to find these things. I was going up on the Applash of Mountains in Pennsylvania by myself on a Saturday thinking, give me a month. I'll handle this, you know? I was like, it's not going to be that hard.
Starting point is 00:52:34 You know, especially, like, you got the Carvindale White Bigfoot up in Pennsylvania that's on video. It's got to be my favorite video all the time. And I'm like, if that thing's out there, I'm going to find it. It's not going to be that hard. And I was wrong. But it's just so easy. It was such a clear photo, right? video. I could do that.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So Corky years later posts these shots, these, I guess they're trail cams that he has that are on his house, pointing out into the yard. And he has something massive crawling through his yard and what we call the spider crawl. And it's not a spider because it only has two arms, two legs, but it's sprawled out on the ground like this. And he said it was crawled. up to the house. And he told me that when, like, those pictures were taken,
Starting point is 00:53:28 that thing actually did come up on the front porch. But it was doing, like, this spider crawl thing, like real load of the ground. And people talk about how these things drop down real load of the ground, and then they maneuver across the ground like that. Western Sasquatch Chronicles has a similar type experience. And I've heard other people describe it this way. But it's not the fact that, and I always feel like I don't do it justice
Starting point is 00:53:51 when I described it. I'm going to try my best. When Wes saw his stuff, it drops down, one of them dropped down to the ground. And he said, it, it crawled across the road on its fingers and toes. So we're not talking about something that did this. We're talking about something that drops down, is holding itself up with its fingers and toes, and then walks across the road, just crawling,
Starting point is 00:54:16 not moving its arms, it's just his fingers and toes. That's how I picture it. when he tells the story. I might be wrong, Wes, if you're watching this, which I doubt you are. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Text me, bro. But you hear these stories of people having these experiences. Yeah, there it is right there. Thank you, Jack. That was good work right. Good work by you. But that was out in his yard. He said that he believed it was a juvenile Sasquatch.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Because I don't think he actually saw it live in person. But they had the activity. Nightmare fuel, isn't that? Yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So anyways, it drops down like that. And so the Madisonville, let's just call it creature, whether it's a dogman or a Sasquatch, it's not unheard of.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And there's plenty of people who talk about Bigfoot dropping down all four and moving extremely fast, like running like that, you know? And can you imagine? Imagine a monster down on all four. charging you like that. Like, picture of grizzly bear charging you. Now,
Starting point is 00:55:28 replace that grizzly bear with something twice as large as that, more massive, running at you with arms and legs. Like, this is like,
Starting point is 00:55:37 talking about nightmare fuel. Shrew, man. That's terrifying. Terrifying. So, that is, that literally, I don't know if I have
Starting point is 00:55:46 another video, per se, coming out of this area. And if I do, what people just saw is my favorite video coming out of this area and having five minutes
Starting point is 00:55:56 from the shop. Five minutes from Legends Lord Pizzeria. Crazy. Crazy. And that's the kind of stuff that you have happening where people come into your shop
Starting point is 00:56:06 and tell you stuff and you're just like, okay, well, just, you got to start a file. You just got to start a file. Like, you should have something people write down their experience
Starting point is 00:56:15 and just file it away back there. Oh, that would be cool. You know what I mean? We've got to work on something like that, you know? If I had the room in the shop, I'd a little little thing in the corner where you could fill out a report. You know it would be fun. This would be really fun, actually.
Starting point is 00:56:28 If you put up almost like a, you know how like, say you have this pad, like something like this, like a pad. And it's like the tear away pages. And you have like something hanging on the wall. That's a tear away page. And it has a pen with a chain connected to it. And people can walk up to it and write their encounter on it on the wall. tear the page off, and there's a drop box right there hanging on the wall next to it. And they could just put it in the – like a mailbox.
Starting point is 00:56:57 They just put it in there. And at the end of the day, you just collect the papers and you take them back. That would be fine. It would be something that goes on the wall and everything else. And it's like you can make it like the station where people have dropped their reports. The drop, the report drop station. And the creativity for people who haven't had an experience will be really great, too. On the fake reports.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Why is this written in crayon? Oh, that's right. That two-year-old, that two-year-old. Is there like, so bring the roll-a-dex of creatures out, like what creatures have people talk to you about in this area? Bigfoot, of course. There's some Dogman reports. Was that recent, the Dogman reports?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Within the last year. Yeah? Yeah. Because you started talking about Dogman before we started going to live and say, Ah! Yeah. Is that what you were going to say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 All right, let's talk about it. down around the lake around Vonneur. Okay. Trying to remember what someone told me. It was right after dark, he was hunting, and it ran across in front of him over by the lake. And he said it ran kind of hunched over, but he could see the ears on top of its head. and he said it turned and looked at him and its eyes were amber like they were lit and I said what did it do and he said I don't know I was gone he said that was it
Starting point is 00:58:35 so I went back to the truck and got out of there wow but ironically that for years was a very good spot for research. I have been over several times in that area. And turns out it was another researcher's area. I found out later. And I don't know if I'm allowed to mention names or not. Yeah, go ahead. Scott Carpenter.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Oh, yeah. And I talked to him, and it turns out it was the same area. Where he was getting his stuff? Yeah. Wow. So it's actually, we know that area very well. Yeah. So that was the area that the person saw this.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yep. Whoa. Okay. And now that's closed off. There's signs up everywhere. The feds closed it off. Government property, no trespassing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:34 And I don't understand that, but there it is. Yeah. I haven't done it yet, but we're going. We're going. We're going down there. No, we totally are. It's okay. Feds, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:59:50 We're not going to cross your sign. We're going to find other places that you haven't put signs up. Skirt right around the edge. Claim ignorance. Yeah, you bring your dog. Your dog runs off and then you've got to find your dog. Exactly. And then we found a dog man.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah, this is what it is. It has my dog's leg hanging out of the mouth. Oh, no. I was scared. How do you explain? that to the kids. Nightmare fuel. Nightmare fuel. That's what we should call the show, Nightmare Fuel. So interesting, the Amber Eyes. So Joe Barger, who is on the show, maybe, Jack, if you can remember that episode, you put up on the screen. I don't remember the name of the,
Starting point is 01:00:28 or the episode number, but Joe Barger came in here. We released it, I think, in August last year. November. November. November. November last year. Something like that. So Joe Barker, truck driver was it well he's not i can't remember if he's back in the issue or not now but uh he had i don't if you know this story but he had an airbrake leak uh on his truck up in michigan so he night time he gets out he's on an incline full load trailer and he goes back repairs the air the air leak he hears rustling and the trees next to the road there and you know it sounded large could be a bear whatever he gets back in the truck he starts going going up the hill the full load he's not going any more than 25 miles an hour.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I mean, he's, you can't. He's checking his mirrors, like a good trucker trucker does. And when he pans to the passenger side, he notices that he no longer can see his run lights along the trailer. There's something blocking it. And he said a bipedal, upright standing werewolf dog creature came running up next to the truck. and he said it was so massive that when you're sitting in a tractor trailer,
Starting point is 01:01:43 you're sitting about your head is about nine feet off the ground because you're sitting up. He said, this thing was so large that it had to duck down and look in the window at him. He said it put its hand on the door because the windows were down and put his hand on the door. And he said it was feeling around like it was like it knew how to open a door. And it was looking to open the door. And he said the head was so large, it filled the window. It was huge. and he said it had yellow, amber eyes, just like that, just like that.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And he blew its face off. It's a whole story. The government got involved. It's crazy. He blew the dog man's face up. Yeah. What did I say? He blew his face off.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Oh, well, his meaning the dog man. Yes, exactly. I don't know if there's a female dog man or a male dog man or if it's like a dog girl, man. Dog woman, dog man. Or maybe it was just, I think, it might have been a government project, to be honest with you. Because they approached him and they said, they told them that you killed our asset. And so I think this, because I have weird thoughts on a lot of this stuff. And I think that if you see a dog man, it doesn't mean that that dog man was born here.
Starting point is 01:02:50 It doesn't mean that it wasn't. It doesn't mean, here's the thing. It could have been born here. It could have been created in a lab. I think it could have been coming from another realm. But one thing that it isn't, it isn't friendly. You're not going to play games with it. Unless you're a kid, which is weird.
Starting point is 01:03:05 kids that interact with have encounters with dog man everything like I don't know if this is consistent but I can tell you for fact three times on the show's history way back twice it was a woman twice it was ladies when they were children interacting with dog interactions with dog man very friendly very friendly and then the other one was a guy here in in the mountains when he was a kid growing up He went to visit his friend. His friend said, I want you to meet my friend. So they get on their bikes and they ride into the woods. And they come up on an old cabin.
Starting point is 01:03:40 His friend gets off the bike and he said there was like all these toys and dog toys on the front porch. He said his friend goes up to the front porch, looks in the window, and says, oh, good, he's here. He goes, looks in the window. And he said there was an upright standing dog inside this old abandoned cabin. He got on his bike and took off. But why did that kid feel like it was his friend? And so these, these, what I would call entities appearing to people, why are they befriending children, getting children comfortable with them? But as adults, it's a no-go.
Starting point is 01:04:14 It's aggressive. It's terrifying, you know, and not even adults. Like Kyle from episode 335, he was 15 when he encountered that dog man in the Kentucky woods that almost killed him. So, anyways, dogman's crazy. Amber eyes They saw the amber eyes down Where Scott is essentially buried Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:37 Wow wow wow That's where I was charged at That's where I was charged at By an unknown force Jack and I drove out one night We're driving through the cemetery And we heard like a hoof Like a poof like literally our windows are down
Starting point is 01:04:49 And we're slowly driving And we hear Like a horse You remember that? No like a big breath Exhale Horseman It was nothing man
Starting point is 01:04:59 There was nothing there. Seder. Cedar, yeah. So the funny thing about that is we were driving by, like, you know, those, like, angel, statue, tombstone type things. That's where we were driving by. And we were like, what?
Starting point is 01:05:18 Angels are coming. Angels are coming. That area also is where we heard the loud clicking sound like the predator movie. And what's crazy. is that we have the Predator movie doing that clicking sound. You have signs doing that clicking sound with alien communication. You have Disclosure Day doing that clicking sound with alien communication. And we were out there.
Starting point is 01:05:45 The first time that I experienced that, I was alone in my truck, they were filming the, what do you call it? Not extras. B-roll. B-roll footage for Sasquatch and Missing Man. and the guys are filming. I have nothing to do. It's cold, so I'm sitting in my truck, staying warm.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I talk to my parents on the phone, and I hear this, like, clicking sound outside the truck. So I tell my parents, I'm like, shh, shh, shh, sh. I put the window down. And the clicking sounded like it was right there outside my window. And my mom goes, you put your window up right now.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And my mom doesn't boss me around. She never bossed me around. She doesn't get bossy. And but she was terrified for me. And so I said by them and I got out and I went over to the guys. And I was like, only hang out to the guys here. But since then, other people have reported hearing those clicking sounds in that area. And it's not, it's not, not Locus.
Starting point is 01:06:41 What is it called? The things. Shoebill, shoehorn. Cicators. Thank you. It wasn't cicadas. It's not the shoebill bird thing, which is the only thing I found close to it, which, honestly, what was it called? Shoebill.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I don't remember. shoebill, shoehorn, something. It's a bird called the shoebill something. Massive birds. They're like six feet tall. Crane. It looks like a crane, yeah. And apparently people illegally have them as pets and then sometimes release them.
Starting point is 01:07:10 So if I came across one of those things, I literally would hold that more of a treasure than anything else. Like, if you told me, today you get to see either Bigfoot or this shoe bill, I'm like, give me that shoe bill. Give me that shoe bill thing. Because that shouldn't be here. I'm probably lying. I probably do Bigfoot.
Starting point is 01:07:24 But anyways, it's, it's, it, the clicking sound that that thing, because it puts his neck back and it's like, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. Yeah. That's smacks its bill together. Yeah. Whatever it does. That's the closest thing I've been able to find naturally, right? And Brian from paranormal portal has heard it. Jason, that our producer has heard him.
Starting point is 01:07:46 You mean black mass paranormal? What I say? Paranormal portal. Yes. RIP, Brent Thomas. Brent Thomas passed away I think about a week ago and it was very unexpected
Starting point is 01:07:58 I mean I literally was watching his live maybe a few nights before because I was here at the studio working and I saw he go because he goes live late at night all the time and then I see that he passed away and from I understand it was a heart attack
Starting point is 01:08:14 so it was very sudden but anyways yeah now I can't think the name of the paranormal, Black Mass Paranormal, Brian from Black Mass Paranormal.
Starting point is 01:08:28 He's heard it. Jason down at the studio, our producer, he's heard him. And so people are hearing these clicking sounds that in pop culture have almost identically been represented
Starting point is 01:08:41 as communication from aliens. And so why is just going out on a limb? That's a factual limb here. Okay? It's nothing but truth here. Factual limit. Why are aliens communicating through clicking sounds down in that area of Madisonville. What say you?
Starting point is 01:08:56 I have no idea on that one. Do you live in Madisonville, too? Yes. Man, so you got aliens clicking in your backyard. We actually have heard what we thought was Bigfoot late at night at home. Really? Yeah, we sleep with a window open. And we're surrounded by fields and woods.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And out across the fields, we heard this scream. And it wasn't high pitch. It wasn't a cat. I mean, this thing, biggest linebacker you've ever seen was just enraged is what it sounded like, just a roar. And Susan and I were laying there in bed reading, and I heard that thing. And she said, did you hear that? And I said, yes, I did. She said, know what that sounded like?
Starting point is 01:09:42 And I said, yes, I do. So I run over to the window. And it sounded again. And I could pinpoint, you know, it was out. across the fields. So it was a ways off, but at the same time, I could feel it in my chest.
Starting point is 01:09:59 It's like being in a Metallica concert. Wow. It was bizarre, and we've heard it several times over the years. At the house. Yeah. Now, here's the interesting part. Those fields connect to where that video was taken.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Really? Yes. Oh, gosh. Less than a mile across those fields. is where that video was taken. Can I have a sleepover with you? Sure. Can we do a sleepover?
Starting point is 01:10:26 Pizza for dinner? You're not tired of pizza, are you? Do you have your pizza every day? Yes. Do you? Yes. Oh, gosh. I would be the same way.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I did. I would be the same way. I'd eat my pizza every day. I love pizza. And I'm not lying. I'm not, and I've told you this before off air. I've told you this.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And you used to own a pizza shop yourself in New York State before you moved down here. I moved down here from the Northeast. I can't, find a pizza place that is close to what I was used to up north. Your pizza is not close to what I was used to at North. It is unique and it tastes amazing. It's literally my favorite pizza down here. It's not the pizza from up north, but it's my favorite pizza down here. Yeah. It's, it's... I didn't try to copy New York style. Yeah. New Haven, any of that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:18 A lot of my customers say it's East Tennessee style. Yeah. It's just different. Because you're from me of Tennessee. Eddie, local man making local pizza. I love it. Local pizza. It's so good. Good ingredients too. You actually walked around his kitchen with him. Oh, yeah. We talked. Yeah. We pow out about nerd stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:35 The first time you met, the first time you met, Derek, Derek's like, can I look at your kitchen? What kind of oven do you have? What's your temperature set out? Yeah. When are you, when does your cheese deliveries come in? Morning or afternoon? Total nerd session. It was. It was. It's so true. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I know only nerd out about this stuff. Pizza and cryptics. That sounds like a movie night. Are there other creatures like anything weird that's ever come across? Little people, elves, goat men. Do the wizard man. Do the wizards. I don't know what else to call him, but a wizard man.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I've had two people, two separate incidents. Oh, wow. This is so good. I love this. Oh, my gosh, I love the story. And one guy was going to work. He said it was about 4 a.m. And was driving around a curve.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And there was a man standing on the side of the road wearing what looked like a monk's robe with the hood holding a staff. And he said, as his headlights hit it in the face, it was blue. His face was blue. What? And Can I pause for a second? Yeah. If there's somebody
Starting point is 01:12:53 standing on the side of road in a monk outfit with a hood and a staff alone in East Tennessee, that's not weird. It's the blue face. That's weird.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Go ahead. I'm sorry. He was carrying his lacquery. He was a later of the day. It's a lacquerie. Now the second incident was in the same area
Starting point is 01:13:17 same monk's robe hood staff blue face but this time as the car approached him he raised the staff and hit the road and was gone in a flash of a lot and let me clarify
Starting point is 01:13:36 this was two separate people coming into your shop telling this story yes so one set of people comes in and says I saw this another person comes in and says I saw this same exact thing only the dude disappeared the second time around. Was he like normal stature, or was it like, could they tell height? They didn't specify that, but since they didn't, I'm going to assume that it was.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Okay. That's fair. Like, that's crazy. You know? That's really crazy. Now, you'll blow your mind. There's more. Where he was seen is within sight of that field where that video was taken.
Starting point is 01:14:15 It's a port. That field. That field is important. We just got to go to the field, hang out, make a campfire. I bet you there's... Is that private property? Yes. Do we know that?
Starting point is 01:14:25 Yeah. Do you know? I could find out. We got to find out. We got to find out. So you know where the field is. Yes. I'm going to need that location before you leave here.
Starting point is 01:14:36 You're not going to go make pizza today until you tell me where that location is. We're going to hold them hot. Gosh, man. Guys, let me know. If you're watching right now and you find these stories interesting, let us know in the chat, in the comments section, do you think Derek and I and Jack, if he's daring enough, should we go down to that field and investigate the field?
Starting point is 01:14:55 I want to go look at that field. That'd be really cool. I've never gone. Blue face? Blue face is crazy. Right? I've never heard. So that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Like, if somebody's saying, oh, you know, I was driving down the road, and I saw a guy in a cloak with a wet hood and a staff, I'm like, yeah, he's probably role-playing something. And he had a blue face. Okay, it's getting strange. Maybe his face painting, though. Next guy.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Same story. But he disappears. Now I'm into it. Now I'm into it. Man, that's really crazy. Yeah. It's actually just David Blaine's next exhibition. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I don't know who David Blaine is. He's running a trailer. Oh, he's a musician guy, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I was like, David Blaine sounds familiar, but I can't put my finger on it, just like the blue man.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I can't quite touch him because he just, Disappeers on me. Two stories. Man, that's really wild. Isn't that wild? That's really wild. It's two stories, two separate people that make that so interesting outside of the fact that the second story the guy disappears. And it's near the video too.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah. And that's five minutes from the shop. Yeah. So the field where the creature was walking where the blue man disappears is five minutes from the shop. Yes. Crazy stuff, man. I love it. love it. And also, the dog man that you just mentioned, that's within, what, 15 minutes from the shop?
Starting point is 01:16:25 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Crazy. So it there's, let's bring it in for landing here on, on this one, because I know you got to get to the shop. Your shop opens up in 12 minutes. So I know you got a manager going, but I know you've got things to do too. Derek, you look like you're about to say something. I have one more question. Go ahead. Ask a question. No, so I know you mentioned the police officers. That's where I was going. Yeah, you got it's the same question. Okay. Yeah. You want to, like, how many police officers have come in and shared legitimate, like,
Starting point is 01:16:56 sightings or things that they've heard or seen? Several. Several. Yes. And I can't mention names there. No, of course. One big controversy among people is the siding of big black cats in Tennessee. supposedly they do not exist.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I got a report from a deputy that saw one cross the road in front of him. And he said that counting the tail, it was half the width of the road. This is not a house cat. And that was up in Teleco planes. and he said as it went under the guardrail in front of him it kind of curled its tail around it you know how house cattle do when you're petting it you know but he said it was this huge
Starting point is 01:17:55 wow and I think there's another part of that story isn't there like he was told not to talk about it is it the case? Yeah by fishing game somebody somebody President Trump President Trump you will not talk about this. Disclosure is mine. I'm the one that's going to talk about it. Department of Energy. Loud and electric. Yeah. Oh, man. So you said several. There's been other police
Starting point is 01:18:28 officers that have seen stuff too? Or? Yeah. Haunted places. Yeah. Around Madisonville, some weird happenings. Trying to figure out what I can say was. without. There's an older building downtown where my team has investigated there two or three times. A lot of stuff going on there. But a couple of the police officers have come in and said that they'll find a window broken or something and have to go in and check it out and had some weird experiences there. Off the topic of the police officers, You were talking earlier about what was it like when with the missing 411 wonder what the people went through. I talked to one that did go through it.
Starting point is 01:19:26 What? Yes. Yes. All right. Buggle up friends. We're in for a ride. He's not making any pizzas anytime soon. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Now, this didn't happen in Madisonville. It happened at Cades Cove on the outskirts. Which is up in the mountains for anybody who doesn't know. he was on one of the outlying trails miles long. He said he was off trail part of the time. But he's an avid hiker. He always tells Samantha family where he's going when he's going to be back. And he said that he walked for two, three hours and come over a rise and everything just went dead quiet.
Starting point is 01:20:11 no wind, no insects, nothing. He said, even his footsteps sounded muffled. And said he walked on and everything kind of got a greenish tint to it. And he was quietly freaking out over that. He walked for about another hour, he said. And he came up over another rise and all of a sudden the sound come on. and he walked for about 15 minutes and met two park rangers. And they asked him his name, and he told them, and they said, we're hunting you.
Starting point is 01:20:55 What? And he said, well, I'm not due back for another couple of hours. And they said, you've been missing since yesterday. Whoa. This man personally told me this. This wasn't something in the story or anything I read. He told me this. in the same area of the missing man from Aarville?
Starting point is 01:21:14 Not totally. You can know the outliers of Cades Cove is exactly... That was Happy Valley. No, I know, but that's still the edge of Cades Cove. It's like right on the edge. Wow. Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. Yeah, you're not going to your shop right now.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Oh. It's where the guy with the ATV that was like perpendicular on the trailway. I didn't realize it was missing. It buckled... That's the back end of it, where his property is, is like, right at the edge of all the property of the smokies. And the Cates Cove's like right on the edge there, too. So if he's on the outliers of Cates Cove, hiking, he could have been in the same region.
Starting point is 01:21:50 He said that according to the wildlife officers, he was been missing since yesterday. Yes. But for him, it was just an hour. Yeah, two, three hours. Dude. Okay. Calm down. Eddie, I'm going to ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Before I go spousing off, how do you interpret that story? What do you think happened? I don't know. I knew you're going to say that. He's such a logical person. He keeps it safe. I'm very safe with it. He keeps it safe.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Even in our investigations, we don't go in to prove a place is haunted or not haunted. We go in to document. Then you arrive at a conclusion. But to me, if you're going out to prove Bigfoot is real in an area or not real, you're already biased. So whatever you find is going to base what you're wanting to find. Sure.
Starting point is 01:22:52 You know. That makes sense. So he walked into a portal. That's probably what happened. So I have what we would consider a portal. Yeah. So I have this like, I don't know if I'll ever be able to settle on on how to actually describe. And I even talked about this last week.
Starting point is 01:23:12 But what you just described is. is what I would suggest that he found himself accidentally. We actually, I think this is the third week in a row, we brought this up. Because the week before last week, we talked about the backrooms. And then last week we did Disclosure Day. And I know, I'm sure it came up. And it's coming up again. It's a liminal space.
Starting point is 01:23:35 And I feel like people find themselves accidentally. Some people do it on purpose, astral projection, things like that. But like this guy and maybe even the guy from Happy Valley, the local guy, accidentally find themselves on what I can only describe as a bridge. It's not another realm, and it's not this realm.
Starting point is 01:23:58 It's like the bridge connecting the two, and like he walked for an hour. So in our understanding, that bridge is big and long. But I think in reality, the bridge is so close to one to the other. that's why people who find themselves on it will describe things like
Starting point is 01:24:19 it was this place but it was different it was a little off because it's so closely connected to this side but it's the it's the in between and sometimes that in between is just a crack just like the in the movie the backrooms
Starting point is 01:24:34 did you see the movie? I'm really good at spoiling movie so you're not going to have to watch it out but like in the movie when he first decided discovers the backrooms. He's walking through the basement of his store and the lights are out because he lost power. And as he's walking, he sees this light sliver on the wall, just this like little tiny crack. And that's like symbolic in my mind of how closely tied from one side
Starting point is 01:25:04 of the other it is. And once you enter that bridge, that little crack, it opens up into this, what you experience of this big open world. But in reality, it's just, just so close. Now, I'm probably like, guys, I'm telling you right now, I don't do drugs. I'm not on drugs right now. But people are like, this dude, man, he's, he's, he's tripping right now. I'm telling you, it's just been, like, the best drug I have is 10 years of talking to people about these crazy experiences. And I, and I just, these are some of the really weird, like, based on a new reality conclusions that I've come to, you know, like, the correlations are incredible. Like how things overlap and tie into themselves is really wild. So like I talk about,
Starting point is 01:25:48 like even last week, L.A. Marzuli confirmed with me that he agrees. He just said, I agree or something like that. So I know what I was going down the second heaven route. He views it that way as well. So like second heaven, like we often think about, you know, say you know, third heaven or second heaven, third heaven, God's abode, the throne of God. In order to get there, you got to go up through the second heaven, but I think the second heaven is like, it overlays this. And it's just we as humans can't access that side naturally because of what I believe the reason for is the curse of sin.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Like that punishment became, we became very physical. We lost, I think, say there's two parts of us, we lost that part of access and we became just the physical. But I think the second heaven is such a close overlay. And I think the bridge, I think it's very similar. And I don't know if the bridge is the second heaven or if the bridge is the bridge between first heaven and second heaven. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:51 But what that guy experienced, that's classic bridge territory, bro. Green, right? Yeah, that would it? Green tint. Man, fascinating. And it's interesting and it goes silent because isn't that like what people,
Starting point is 01:27:07 say when Bigfoot is around, the forest goes silent so often, too. Yeah. So, I mean, we're, like, again, see how that's correlating. How, like, what if they're actually walking in the bridge all the time and they only bleed out once in a while when... And we can only see them when we're at the edge of their bubble that they're walking through. Yeah. And you get the time distortion? Time doesn't exist the same there.
Starting point is 01:27:29 It just doesn't. And that's something that we've uncovered in so many different types of stories. episode 692 when they were going to the other side and having all this activity they would say that they could sleep eight hours and one night go there and when they come back it was only eight hours but there they did years worth of work
Starting point is 01:27:50 you know the time distortion is another thing but yeah that's wow does this guy does he come in often or is just one time he's been in a couple of times since then. Is he local?
Starting point is 01:28:06 He's not local. No. Next time, Eddie. You have a mission. Okay? Okay. Share numbers. No, don't give him my number.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Just get his number. Number, email, something. I would love to talk to this guy. Maybe even text me. If he's there, text me, hold him. I'll get there. Okay. You're talking about time distortions and time slips and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I've ran into this. two or three times where people, for some reason, using a Ouija board, don't do it. Please don't do that. But they think, oh, nothing happened. And two years later, stuff starts happening in their house. It may take two years for that thing to get here. So people need to leave that stuff alone. Yes, it's just a piece of cardboard.
Starting point is 01:29:04 but it's what your intent is with it. Yes. That's the thing that when it comes to the psionic stuff with aliens and calling them in, they're like, you know, they're, they're practicing this, this. And they're like, this is real, these things want to communicate with us. We call it, we practice this, you know, it's, it's, I forget how recently I just heard somebody describe psionics, so I have a hard time describing it, but it's, it's consciousness and the will, you know.
Starting point is 01:29:34 And I'm like, that's summoning. Like, that's summoning. Yeah. You're summoning. Yep. You know, people who call in these things in the sky through CE5 and stuff. Like, I don't care what you call it. You're summoning.
Starting point is 01:29:47 You have a will and your will is to call something in. You're trying to call something in. And there's something in response. Hello. Ellie Marzuli. Like, that's not new. Yeah. That's not new.
Starting point is 01:30:01 People have been calling in entities for, for as long as time, you know? And so, yeah, it's about, it's about what's your intent behind it. And you said about the delay, which is really interesting, too, because, you know, I bring things back to the Bible a lot. And in Daniel chapter 10, we see that very thing right there. There's a delay. So Daniel's praying. The moment he starts praying, there's an angel that everybody believes to be Gabriel, but it doesn't say it's Gabriel. But in the previous chapter, I think it was, it's Gabriel, so I'm assuming it's probably Gabriel again. But there's an angel trying to respond. And for three weeks, you see Daniel praying and fasting until the angel comes
Starting point is 01:30:43 and provides an answer to his prayer. But the angel tells him, I would have been here sooner, but the spirit prince of Persia kept me from getting to you. And it wasn't until Michael the archangel came to intercede on my behalf that I could get away to get to you. So for three weeks, Daniel has this delay in prayer, answer to prayer, because of what's happening there, right? And so when somebody's using a Ouija board to summon something, and it's two years later, maybe, maybe there was some good old angel, good angels there trying to prevent this from happening to you, but you kept using the Ouija board. And they're like, fine, go ahead. I don't know. That's me. That's conjecture. But, I mean, really, like,
Starting point is 01:31:28 There's the precedence for the delay aspect of your summoning, quote-unquote, summoning. Well, I was just thinking of time distortions in the Bible. And Joshua, when the sun stands still, what if God actually entered everything into the bridge? And that was a time distortion for the whole earth. Because God showed up to, like, actually distort all of time. I think I got a book idea. I'm going to write a book about the bridge. Okay?
Starting point is 01:31:52 So, you know, once I'm done with my world number one seller, the confessionals, exposing hidden kingdoms. We're going to write a book called The Bridge where trolls exist underneath or something like that. We'll find something. We'll find a creative title. A really good title. But maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I don't know. Possibilities. Maybe. It's so fun. Eddie, that was a kerp ball that I enjoyed. I really liked that one. That was really cool. And I cranked that one out of the park.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Yeah. Love it. What are your thoughts on like missing 401 and these things too? Like as a whole, because I know you study it a lot and you've had interactions and listenings. I don't think it can be attributed to any one cause. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:33 I think there's several things going on. The time distortions have been reported more than once. So portals, probably. Predators, as in dogman, possibly. And then, of course, there's a human element. You just get lost sometimes. But there's so many stories. You know, there's something going on.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Yeah. Totally something going on. Here in East Tennessee, right outside the door of Legends of Lord Pizzeria, come tell Eddie that you heard him here on Slingshot Nation Live. I'm kind of hungry now. I've been like stirring at this pizza the whole time. I know.
Starting point is 01:33:24 You're always hungry, Derek. It doesn't matter what you're looking at. And you never know. He does not lie. If you go to Legends of Lour Pizzeria, you might just run into Bigfoot or Tony eating pizza. That's happened to. Pickle pizza. In fact, a former guest on the show, Stephen Watson, that's how I met him.
Starting point is 01:33:44 I was in there eating pizza with Jack and somebody else. I can't remember. And he comes over and he introduces himself and we start talking. And since then, he's been on the show a couple times, I think. And so really cool. guy. You meet some interesting people at Legends of Lord Pizzeria in Madisonville, Tennessee, right off Highway 411. That sounded like a commercial. Because it was. It was. Pop it in your Google Maps and come on down. Yeah, Eddie, I'm so glad you came in. This was a long time coming. I've been
Starting point is 01:34:16 wanting this to happen. And now people can put a face to the person I keep talking about over the years. Ever since I moved here, I've talked about you. Yeah. And I really hope that the shop gets a new location where it fits more people. So in the middle of the wintertime, when people are freezing cold and they're standing in a line stretching out to 4-11 and sub-zero temperatures, they can then sit in a dining room of 5,000 people eating pizza. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:34:48 That's like actually a nightmare, isn't it? I don't even want to think of that. That'd be a nightmare. Like at some point you just say, you know what? Maybe we open a second location. We have trouble keeping up as it is. I don't even want to think about 5,000.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine? Imagine everybody at Smoking Mountain Bigfoot Conference being a customer at your shop in one day. Mm-mm. Yeah. No. See, I'm thinking what he's thinking. It's all the prep.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Yeah. Clean up. Yeah. That's all in the food. It's everything else that goes to it. Yeah. No, I can imagine. I can only imagine because I don't plan on doing the prep myself.
Starting point is 01:35:23 I just think of those onions. Oh. Use a knife? Do you trap them with a knife? No. Oh, okay. No. I got a machine.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Still off. But I do 25 pounds at a time. And it's still, if everything goes well, then I'm the one that doesn't. I don't put my employees through that. That's a good boss. There's no immunity to it either. You don't get used to it. You can hear them gripping out there in front because it still gets out into the kitchen.
Starting point is 01:35:58 and everybody's eyes are watering and everything and they're like, oh, this is horrible. And I'm like, y'all'd be back there doing them. Yeah. You know, oh. Getting missed it. Yeah, it's awful. Before we get out of here, your top three selling pizzas.
Starting point is 01:36:12 People hearing this, I'm telling you, dude, there are going to be some people coming in because they heard this show. What's your top three pizzas sold there? Not your favorites, but what are the top three that seem to be sold there? So people know what to maybe test. The pickle pizza, of course. Yeah. That's literally a top.
Starting point is 01:36:28 seller? Yes. We go through 25 gallons of pickles a week. Jeez! Okay. Okay. But as far as specialty pizzas, you got the Sasquatch. It's got six meats on it. The alien abduction. What's on that one? It's cheddar cheese, pizza cheese, ground beef, and bacon. It's kind of like a bacon double cheeseburger.
Starting point is 01:36:58 And I guess the Legend would be the next and it's kind of like a supreme Oh gosh But we have such a variety You know with strange toppings And
Starting point is 01:37:14 You just came out with a new one When we were down there, what was it? You had it Was it a dessert pizza that you came out with or something? Dude, we were just down there We tried That wasn't there Derek, we tried something because it was new on the menu.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Yeah, it was one of your specials. Oh, man. It was new on the menu. The lady at the counter said it was new on the menu. I can't remember what it was. I can't think of what it is either. It was good, though. It was good.
Starting point is 01:37:37 And that's what I have to say, don't be scared of the menu because, like, you do such a great job finalizing all the flavors. Yeah, you taste everything. All the pizzas have been awesome. Yeah, you're not throwing things together like, oh, let them try this today. Was it the Tennessee Wild Man that you tried? It might have been. It might have been. It had the gravy base.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Yes. with ham and bacon. Yes. That's what it was. Yeah, we ate that whole thing out too. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:38:05 I love it. I'm due for another visit. I'm due it for another visit. But all right, friends, listen, I appreciate you tuning into another live. We greatly appreciate it. I hope you had a good time talking about some local legends and lore here in East Tennessee. We had some good times here. And I'm telling you, like the curveball of these stories, I imagine.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Let us know in the comment section what you think. But I think the curveball, of all these stories was the blue man. And it's not the fact that the guy's dressed up like a wizard from Lord of the Rings. It's the fact that he's dressed up like a wizard from Lord of the Rings and he legit disappeared.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Now he's taking the look and actually putting it in action. So who is this guy? There's local witches and stuff that I mean, who knows what's going on here in East Tennessee? Come on out. Visit us. Visit Pigeon Forge and visit Legends of Lord Pizzeria. All right, guys. Love you. See you next week. Bye.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Slingshot season Hey, let's run it Hey, hey, hey, hey Grace hit me like Boom, can't miss God with me, whole squad Gone, gone and devil Try to throw shit
Starting point is 01:39:14 Like too broad Walking the spot like who that Standing in the slang in the truth slap Never in the way we moved dad All my name for the hit like a du wreck I was stuck in the valley that view bad Now I'm up in the hills with a food bag God took all my elves ran through that
Starting point is 01:39:31 Now the wind stack high like a new stack Every step with the light that's a blueprint Whole pack getting bright because he's doing it He the king so the crown got a new feed And the cross here harder than a new clip We ain't here just a body, it's a movement Every giant in the strong with the truss In the dirt now I'm cleaned up
Starting point is 01:39:58 Blood bought brand new, never dreamed up Every thorn out of stone trying to team up Got 50,000 in here feeling beamed up I remember them nice in the struggle Feeling way down deep by the trouble But he showed up strong bro the muzzle Now the faith built bit like a double We're living water in the cup
Starting point is 01:40:13 No cap in the well, don't run dry, that's that fax Now we run another pat with a show step Every loss is a set up for the best yet Every swing once What's like, ooh

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