The Confessionals - Supernatural Forest Sorcerers | Louisiana Lycanthropes | Swamp Nephilim
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Merkel.
Hey, everybody.
This is a friendly Friday feature because I have missed reloaded Monday this week.
So I wanted to put something out for you.
I was recently a guest on Forbidden Knowledge News with Chris.
And he put out this episode that I think was just a heater.
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And the episode that I was on is called Supernatural Forest Sorcerers, Louisiana Likentropes, and Swamp Nephilim.
That's a tongue twister.
I don't want to say it again.
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Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News.
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Today my guest is Tony Merkel.
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Today I want to welcome back to the show, Tony Merkel.
He is host of the Confessionals podcast.
where witnesses of the unexplained come forward to share their experiences with the world.
At first, his pursuit was focused on the phenomena of Bigfoot,
but he quickly began connecting dots with other topics such as ghosts, demons, alien abductions, and much more.
Tony, welcome back. How are you doing?
Good, man. Glad to be back. It's always a pleasure to talk to you.
Yes, it's always fun, man. I love our conversations.
And I love what you're doing from the podcast to documentaries.
Now you've got some films coming.
You're killing it.
And I've been inspired by folks like yourself to produce my own docu-series.
I was telling you about it a little while ago.
I just finished filming for my first couple of episodes, which will be an interweaving of my origins
in the dark paranormal history of Louisiana, my home state.
And the entire second episode will be dedicated to my friend Scott Pace, who I was also
telling you about his experiences.
You've got to get this dude on your show.
He's a hunter near Gonzales, Louisville.
Louisiana's had incredible encounters with Bigfoot's dogmen, aka Rougaroo, some little people,
light beings, extraterrestrials, and we went on a little journey through some of the swamps
that he has experiences, and I interviewed him for almost three hours about the most insane
encounters I've ever heard. Now, who better to discuss this type of high strangeness with
than Tony Merkel? Now, Tony, before we get into this, remind the audience just about yourself,
your podcast and all the amazing things you're working on.
Yeah, so Tony Merkel, I host the Confessionals podcast.
That's where I got my start with everything.
I interview people on there, paranormal experiences, and that ranges, when I say paranormal,
I mean everything.
So that ranges from Bigfoot, Dog Man, UFOs, abductions, hauntings,
to mine possessions to time slips, people teleporting, you know, time travel, you know,
secret space program, all that stuff.
we talk about it all. And I started out that in 2017, and now I do it full time for a living. I have
a media company now, Merkel Media. And with Merkel Media, we do, we host other podcasts as well,
but we're really focusing in on the film side of things. And we just got done shooting a film in
Washington State, which we went out there to shoot a big foot film, and we got a big foot film.
But let me say this clearly.
have a Bigfoot film. We didn't film a Bigfoot. Unfortunately, I was trying. I was trying,
but we had some amazing experiences out there. And I think the most amazing experience we had out
there was a missing person that we kind of, I don't know if we, I think what happened is
this guy, his license plate was South Dakota. We found this like sprinter van type thing, a transit
van. It was deep in the mountains in Washington State, and it was relatively new. We found a bunch of
containers of weed and his bong laying out. Like his bong was just sitting there. He had an outside
toilet, shovel, axe, all that stuff. It looked like somebody was there recently. And so we walked
around. We're like, okay, you know, maybe he's off doing something. We did our thing that day.
we left. We came back late at night to do a night investigation and everything was still there
untouched. And we're like, okay, that's strange, but maybe, you know, I don't know. So a day goes by,
two days go by. We go back on a third day to do another, another night of filming and everything
was still there untouched. And we found some shoes about 50 feet away. And it, from my perspective,
it looks like, well, first of all, it is a missing person. Just yesterday, the sheriff's department
out there posted on their Facebook page that this person that we have identified in that,
that owns that vehicle because he had a pass that we could see through the window that had his
name on it. And the sheriff's department put out that he is missing. And he's originally
from Baltimore, Maryland. His license plate was South Dakota. And so I don't know what his story is,
but he is officially missing now, I think, for the last three weeks.
And we, this literally, where we found the vehicle is literally, I would say,
less than a quarter mile from my friend Wes from Sasquatch Chronicle is his encounter spot,
which is a very scary encounter story.
And Wes, it's kind of crazy.
The night that we went back out there, we found the vehicle again,
before we went back out there, we were at Wes's house.
and I was doing an interview with him in his studio.
And I asked him during that, during that interview, I said,
do you feel like if you and your brother weren't in a vehicle that you guys would be here today?
And he said, no.
And so less than a quarter mile away from where that happened,
we're now finding out that there's a guy missing.
And he looks like he was camping out there kind of thing.
And because of what I do for a living and what I know,
I have a hard time getting past the fact that maybe this is a missing 401 type situation
involving Bigfoot case.
And so we're kind of looking into ourselves.
I mean, obviously we're not law enforcement, but it seems like we might have, this guy,
I mean, what I keep going through in my head is like not Doggman, Bigfoot.
Like, what if he was outside his vehicle and these things like the night that happened to West came in and they were between,
him in his vehicle and he took off running and they took him. It's something that I keep replaying
in my head. So I'm hoping that's not the case. I hope they find him. I hope he's just, you know,
having a really, really good time somewhere. And I'm assuming he's experienced woods been, right?
I suppose I have no idea.
Well, that's the most interesting thing about those missing 401 cases is the folks that do have
experience in the wilderness or their hunters, and for no explicable reason, they go missing forever
under the strangest of circumstance?
Yeah, they go missing, and it's very strange.
I mean, there's adults, there's children, people talk about, you know, they're walking
with somebody on a trail, and the person's right behind them, they're talking, and all of a
a sudden, they're just kind of quiet, and you take a few more steps, you turn around, and the person's
gone.
There's no sign of them.
and there's a lot of different ways you can go about thinking about these things but one of the
ways that people do go down is the idea of Bigfoot and the idea that you know um that these
creatures are taking people at times it it's the situations are very unique uh this missing
four-on-one situation so uh i don't know if that's what this is but it does it does definitely have
that vibe so we anyways long story short you asked me to introduce myself uh we we went out there to
shoot our newest film. It's going to be a bigfoot film. We don't have a name for yet or anything
like that. It'll probably come out around Christmas time, I imagine. We are going to be shooting
our first movie for Merkel Media this summer, and that's going to be a big foot movie,
but it's not going to be your blood and guts kind of, it took me away and ate me. It's going to be
more of a psychological, almost like a psychological thriller. And then later this year,
we're going to be shooting a film in the LBL here in Tennessee, where
a guy named Martin Groves, who was a sheriff, had a very dramatic dogman and Bigfoot encounter
one night with his hunting partner back in 1993. And he wrote a book about it. And he came to
my studio and recorded about it. And so he invited us out to the location. This year is 30 years
of the anniversary of that happening to him. He's never been back to the camping spot. And he's
going to take us out there to the camping spot. And we're going to spend a week out there hunting the
Dogman in the LBL, which is a huge op-ed.
So I'm excited about it.
But yeah, so Merkel Media, we're doing a lot of films.
Obviously, like I said, The Confessionals Podcast, and we host other people's podcast as well,
like macroaggression is Charlie Robinson.
I know you know who that is.
Kill the Mockingbirds.
Hammer Lane Legends is a podcast.
My dad does.
It's a trucker show.
So we do a lot of different things, and we're always looking to do more.
So fun time.
Yeah, it's killing it.
I love it.
I can't wait to see what you got going.
Now, before we get into your insights into some of the Louisiana high strangest I've recently heard about, man, I grew up there and I had no idea the crazy amount of things that were happening there.
But we were talking about the 411 missing 411. This really interests me. Have you had any call-ins or any stories about anyone that has gone missing but returned and remembers anything about it?
yeah so off the top of my head i don't think so other than the fact that i did have a guy so i came out
with an episode i think it was 512 desert portal death cold is what i called it and uh it is probably
a top two episode i've ever done and it came out with it back in january this year and a long story
short it's about three hour episode uh i had a guy on who was in the film industry and one night
he met a guy at a bar they became friendly he invited them out to uh
a party in the desert of Joshua Tree. And he goes out there and it's a multiple day ordeal.
But at night, things got really weird. And I'm talking like really weird. Like portals opening up,
people flying up into the air, really trippy stuff. And people, you know, logically could say,
well, he was on a bad trip. Somebody slipped him to drugs. He was on a bad trip. The problem with
that is there's a lot of other people that I've been finding now that have similar experiences
in Joshua Tree. And one person has come forward to tell me that he wasn't there, but he actually
dropped somebody off at one of these big parties out in Joshua Tree. And he was able to relay some of the
stories. But I have the coordinates. I know exactly where this happened. And I'm pretty sure it's an,
it's an annual thing. And I think I know when they do it every year. So I know when they do it,
where they do it. It's very occultic. James, the guy who's on my on my show, he strongly
believe that he was being prepared that night for some kind of sacrifice.
It's very trippy.
But that story goes out.
Tons of people listen to it.
Everybody's sharing it.
And somebody contacted me, and I'm still trying to get the guy on the show.
He's kind of gone dark on me.
But what he did share is that he said he has an experience in Joshua Tree very similar.
Only when he went out there, he disappeared for three or four days.
and he provided local news links to the local news on YouTube broadcasting, the fact that he's missing.
And what's weird is that four days later, he reappears in Joshua Tree.
He said during that period of time, he wasn't here, but he wasn't something, like he didn't know where he was.
it's almost like he slipped into the upside down of stranger things kind of thing.
And he tells me this stuff.
And it's interesting because on the episode that I broadcast, the guy James, who I'm
talking to, he says that of all places, it was a porta potty.
But it's like Bill and Ted's excellent adventure only instead of a phone booth, it's a
port-a-potty.
but he goes into this porta potty to use the bathroom and when he came out he said it was very clear and
evident that there were way way way more people there than what there were when he went in and he just
took a leak and so he didn't know where all these people came from but he just kind of whatever
you know like he didn't at this time he didn't see any portals opening up during the day there was a
girl crying there saying that you know she's like I don't want to go through another night here
he's like why she's like I just don't want to be here
And so it's a bizarre story, but what I'm trying to get to is it seems like there's a transition
thing going on here with his story and what I'm finding in other people's stories.
And I don't know what else to call it other than just a bridge.
It seems like sometimes people find themselves on the bridge between this reality and another
realm.
I think there's multiple realms, multiple parallel realities going on.
and sometimes somehow people find themselves on this bridge.
And so they're here, but they're not here.
And this is where weird things are happening around them.
And so when it comes to the missing 401 stuff,
I think Joshua Tree is a thinning of the veil type of location.
There's several other places like this.
The Bridgewater Triangle in Massachusetts,
I believe that the LBL here in Tennessee is one of those locations.
And in these locations, I think it's easier for people to slip in and out of this per se reality and maybe not go somewhere else, but they're just not quite here. And they experience things that they just can't explain it. And it would, to a certain extent, it would provide maybe, I don't want to say logical because none of this seems logical, but it might provide an answer as to why when some of these, like,
children go missing in the missing 411, they can't tell you what happened. They don't know what
happened. They're just like, I don't know where I was. And if you think about like a two-year-old
trying to tell you where they were when they're like, I was here, but I wasn't here. And it's kind of,
you know, it's different. So I do think that there's something to it when it comes to the missing
401. I don't think all the cases. Missing 401 is not like a, you know, a closed end thing where it's
like, well, it's always portals or it's always Bigfoot. It's always dog man. This is a phenomenon that
is being labeled as 411, and I think there's multiple answers to this. And I think it would be kind of
not a good idea for us to just kind of say, well, my thing is Bigfoot. So let's try to define
the whole missing 401 thing with Bigfoot, or my thing is UFOs and abductions. And so I think
there's multiple things that have been happening here. And off the top of my head, I think episode
512 is a possibility where we have a missing 411 type situation where he slipped into another realm.
I think he could have easily, because the way he got out of this is really bizarre.
It was like he was trying to physically fight through this barrier.
And then the guy who contacted me afterwards saying that he was in Joshua Tree and he just kind of disappeared.
He was gone.
They didn't know where he was and he didn't know where he was.
All he knows is he showed back up days later and they're like, we've been looking for you.
And he's like, I don't know what to tell you.
So yeah, I don't know if that answers your question.
Yeah, but I know that's incredible. That's great. Now, I want to get your insights into some of the high strangeness that occurs in the swamps of South Louisiana. And like I said, I've heard of things like the Rougaroo. I've heard of Bigfoot. Roogaru is apparently a dogman or werewolf type being. But some of the things that I was told from witnesses and experiencers of this phenomenon in that area are insane. Not only Bigfoot,
Dogman, they have little hairy forest people.
They have smoke beings.
They have these disembodied voices, lights that follow you around,
orbs that follow you around, light beings that step out of portals,
reptilian type of creatures that swim around in the swamps and on top of everything else.
He's had encounters with gray aliens and mantis beings.
And he started having these strange astral dreams.
experiences with extraterrestrials. So all of this stuff, there's a whole concentration of stuff going on
there. Now, have you had any witnesses or experiences that you've heard of in Louisiana that stick out to you?
Yeah, I mean, Louisiana is interesting because you got New Orleans and New Orleans,
Nalens, whatever you want to say. But it's interesting because of the history there. And I'm not like a
historian of it stuff, but I do know that there's some dark magic that happens there. And I think,
that when we participate in dark magic ritualistically and consistently throughout generations,
I think we can bring on a thinning of the veil type situation in certain geographical locations.
It's almost like attracting this stuff. It's just like running a tire. Eventually the tire
gets balder and balder and thinner and thinner the more you use it. And I feel like it might
be a similar situation with that area. I don't know exactly.
where all those experiences were having, but as you were saying it, I keep picturing, you know,
New Orleans area. It is. This was all within a couple of hours of...
Okay. Yeah. The voodoo, the dark magic going on down there. I've had people, even down to the
MK Ultra stuff. I mean, we have a lady Kat who's been on the show a couple of times for my members,
and she, like literally, when I first started talking to her for my recording, the very first
episode. She's telling me these weird experiences, and I forget how it totally unfolded, but I remember
her distinctly about halfway through the interview, kind of like being taken back. And I said to her,
I don't know how to say this to you, but I'm pretty sure you are part of the MK Ultra program.
And she was just like silence. And then she was just like, I need a break. And she just hung up
the phone. And we reconnected and we finished the conversation. But she was like, this is like,
all of a sudden things started clicking in her head. She's like, wait a second. If that's true,
then this makes sense more. And now I'm having these memories. And now she has a box to put things in.
And we've had her on the show several times. And the interesting thing is that her mom was very involved
in like satanic rituals as a kid growing up. And she had a friend that her friend's parents
did the same stuff. And so her and her friend were going through this stuff as children with their
parents doing this stuff and she has a friend now that can back up her story. So I'm still trying to
get her friend comfortable to talk to me. But I've texted with her and sparingly. But there's a lot of
dark stuff that happens down there that has happened down there that can bring on this stuff.
And I don't have a firm one way or the other when it comes to viewing these creatures. I think that
what we need to do is look at like the Rougaroo, Dogman, Bigfoot, as,
loosely defined because we have people's experiences and that's what we're basing this stuff off of.
I mean, there's no scientific book. You're not going to get a historical book on the Rougaroo
that is that's going to be anything based off of scientific evidence or anything.
It's all so and so had this experience.
My parents told us stories of the Rougaroo as a cautionary tale like to make sure you brush your
teeth or eat all your vegetables or the Roo-Garoo is going to crawl through your window and eat you.
Yeah, and all that stuff derives, though, from somebody's experience and it gets passed on.
And when you have multiple experiences of this stuff, you start getting general ideas of maybe what's going on here.
But then you have different categories.
So you have, let's just stick with the Rougaroo.
I mean, you have somebody that is saying, you know, it was very physical.
It chased after me.
For instance, in Kentucky, they called the dog man.
Most places, they called the dog man.
in Kentucky we had Kyle on the show and he talked about when he was 15 this dog man chased him
through the woods he only survived because of his dog saving his life but at one point he described
being it was so close that he could see down the back of its throat that's how closest thing was to it
to him so in Kyle's situation it was a very physical thing but then we have other people for
instance not even just like other people let's give people an actual thing they can look up
And it's, and now I say that, I don't know how to tell you to look it up, but there is a video on
YouTube. And what it is is there's a guy in Florida who saw a dog man running around against
his backyard. And so he took pictures and he posted it on, on social media, on Facebook. And then
he goes live because people were commenting on it. He goes live and he's talking about it. Within
the first few minutes of the video, it's about a 30 minute video. He's a 30 minute video.
he's shooting forward to show where he saw this thing and you see it run by underneath a light.
And when it runs by underneath a light, it looks very transparent.
Now, I don't think it was running so fast that it looked transparent.
What you see is something that is physical, but yet not totally physical.
And it was very canine.
And so he sees it live on Facebook and he freaks out and he spends the rest of the time talking about it
with the people who saw it with him live on Facebook.
So you have two situations here where somebody witnessed something that was physical,
but the other person was like, ah, it really wasn't physical.
It's like metaphysical.
So there's a lot of different aspects to these topics to try to search down and define.
When it comes to Louisiana, I think what's going on personally,
I think what has a lot to do with it is the deep history of dark magic going on
and summoning these things.
We have several people talking about
Rougaroo, dog man,
coming through portals.
Shane Cashman from Tim Pools' camp,
Shane Cashman's been making a lot of rounds recently,
pissing people off with what he writes.
And he was here in my studio,
and we were talking about this.
He was talking to a woman
who was studying in a school of mystery,
and she talked about how they were learning
how to open portals.
And one time they saw a,
dog, upright walking dog, walked through a portal. So again, there's a lot of different ways to view
this and there's a lot of things that go into it. It's not as simple as, oh, it's an upright walking
dog. It's not that simple. But down in Louisiana, there has been also sightings of giants
recently that I've been coming aware of. And I was told this by a friend of mine, Dark Waters.
And he was on my show, I'd say probably about a year and a half ago, two years ago. And he said that,
and he's down in New Orleans.
He said that there was, I guess, a big storm that went through it.
It opened up parts of swamps that people really hadn't been able to get to before with boats.
And he said that he was talking to a fisherman who went into the swamps.
And while they were going into this new area, they saw a very tall humanoid being so tall,
I think it was looking over the trees at them.
And he said that that's what the guys came back and they were reporting and stuff.
And they're like, I'm never going back there again.
And so what is that?
Is it that we have a giant humans that still exist today?
And we hear about the giant of Kandahar back in the early 2000s.
Is it possible that we could have giant human beings or giant humanoid people,
you know, nephalum entities, whatever they are, still living and breathing?
in the states today.
Is it possible?
I don't know.
I do know when I was out in Washington
shooting the Bigfoot film,
I was taken back
by how big and vast
those areas were.
And I was thinking myself,
it is so easy
for something that's large
to hide in here.
But Tony,
we're overpopulated,
didn't you know?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I forgot.
Before, next time,
just remind me,
next time before I come on,
and let me just check with Bill Gates
and just make,
make sure I got all the facts right.
That's right.
But it's just, it's really one of those things where,
forget about the scientific side of things where, you know,
could something that large sustain itself?
Because we're not talking about something that's totally physical.
Okay.
Like even these giants, we're talking about something that's supernatural.
And so if we're talking about something supernatural,
we can't apply these basic physical things to it.
And people who do that just don't want to accept the supernatural side of it.
And that's where the riff comes in.
Now, if we're talking portals and we're talking about thinning of the veil locations,
and if New Orleans is one of those locations,
it would make sense to me that giant humanoid nephalum-type entities
could exist there by going in and out of this reality realms.
I strongly believe that in Numbers 1333, it talks about how the spies went into the land, I think, of Canaan.
They came back with a bad report, that there was Nephilim in the land, and to them we looked like grasshoppers.
You know, there's huge human beings.
The problem with that is that that was written post-flood of Noah.
And so one of the riffs that people have to try to do mental gymnastics with is how is it possible that if we believe this Bible, how is it possible that there's a flood? It's supposed to kill everything on earth except for what's on that boat. Yet the Nephilim survived. Where the Nephilim on the boat? Well, we don't have record of the Nephilim be on the boat. So how did the Nephilim survive? And it's something that it's frustrating to think about. But if you start adopting a
more supernatural world view, then you're like, okay, these Nephilim, their fathers were fallen angels.
They DNA-wise might have been able to inherit supernatural abilities, or at least taught it,
because in Enoch it talks about how the fallen angels taught human beings how to do witchcraft.
And so if that's the case, could it be possible that these human beings that I'm telling you
about that are learning how to open the portals and dogmen walking through, is it, if you want to believe,
believe that, which I do, then it's not that hard to go from that to saying supernatural beings
who were created supernaturally by fallen angels having sex with women of Earth, their offspring
being supernatural could have an ability to go in and out of dimensions and go to other worlds.
And last time I was on the show with you, I talked about this really wild story that I uncovered.
And you and I talked about briefly before we went live. That, in that story, it's so kind of
complex. It's so layered. But in the book that I talked about then that we still have,
it talks about the person who went through all this stuff and he experienced the stuff,
it talks about how in this other world, this other realm that he would go and visit and do things in,
there are Nephilim there. And he says that in the book. When this book was written in 2012,
he was a young, I think he was like 19 years old.
And the knowledge that he was able to articulate for, I think, over 600 pages
is something that I have a hard time wrapping my head around
that a kid that's 19 years old is going to have all this information
and think of this incredible storyline just out of thin air.
But what he says, though, is that Nephlim are there.
Now, I strongly, passionately believe this entire story
that I shared with you last time I was on the show.
I still look for ways out of it. I want to find a way to say it's not real because it's really wild.
And for me, the more I look for those ways to find that it's not real and I can't find it, the more it backs it up for me.
So with me having such a strong belief in this story and him saying that Nephlem were in that realm,
well, now I have this guy saying Nephlem were in another realm and already backs up my idea that they could go in and out of dimensions through portal locations.
So maybe in Louisiana, these giants that people are seeing are there because they can go in and out of dimensions and it's a portal location.
I don't know.
You get me talking about portals we can go forever.
Well, I'm going to add to this craziness and we're going to get really, really deep with this.
So these giants, Scott has reported that he has seen a Bigfoot-like entity.
and then he looked over maybe 10 foot to the right and standing higher than a tree was just a hairy man.
It didn't look like a normal big.
It looked like a giant hairy man.
Could have been a type of big foot, but he said it was about over 15 feet tall, which is insane.
And on top of that, these beings, he said, have the ability to cloak themselves.
He'll see what looks like predators, glimmering.
know, through the trees.
You remember the movie predator where the alien would be able to turn on this cloaking,
and he looked like he was shimmering a bit.
You could see through him.
Well, he said that these things can do that too.
Like every type of weird creature he's seen has this ability to cloak themselves in some way.
And I want to get your thoughts on this.
I know you probably have tons of stories that can support this.
But his first experience, he was in a...
a deer stand and he was looking through his rifle scope and he sees a giant hairy man and he looks over he pans over then he sees a what he could only describe as a werewolf looking creature and he had never experienced anything like this before and he's not psychic and he started hearing these creatures talk in his mind it they were it was like he could understand perfectly what they were saying and the dogman was
very threatening, said that he better lower that rifle or he's going to come up there and tear him apart.
And then the Bigfoot cross-communicated said, no, he doesn't have his finger on the trigger,
don't do that.
And they continued to have this brief back and forth until they basically scared him out of the deer stand.
And about four or five of them, about two other dogmen and two other Bigfoot, followed him at a distance until he was out of that area.
And ever since then, he's had the most insane experiences.
And not only with Bigfoot's, but with all other creatures, all types of other creatures.
And I'm going to tell you one more crazy experience that he had where he was, he actually went visit.
I think it was Nebraska or North Dakota somewhere around there.
And they were having some high strangeness reported there.
So he wanted to go see what was going on.
And the individuals out there had formed some sort of psychic.
relationship with these big foot creatures that were surrounding them. He went outside. He saw that
one was staring at him from across a street, and he said it was huge. It was about eight to ten
foot tall, and it psychically asked him to start singing for it, because he likes when humans sing to him.
So he starts singing this gospel verse, and as he's singing, these two little people start
like dancing up out of the ground to the song he's singing, like swine, like swole.
weighing back and forth and dancing.
And they were really short.
They were probably about four or five feet.
And as he's singing this song,
these little people are coming out of the ground and dancing,
and the Bigfoot is like approving of the music and stuff.
I'm telling you, man, this guy has had incredible experiences.
Now, as far as Bigfoot and Dog Man together,
you were telling me that you're going to examine and try and find out
what's going on with a very similar case, right?
Yeah, so it's interesting because when you were saying this, I was trying to make notes so I don't forget.
The idea of Dogman and Bigfoot together is something that hasn't really come across my table a lot until recently.
And to be honest with you, again, it all started with that book.
That book, he said in this world that he would visit, there were where, where we were, where,
wolves and there were Bigfoot. And he said, Bigfoot is another form of lichen, which is a werewolf.
And when I heard that, I was like, that's interesting. I don't know if I believe that, but it's
interesting that he says that. And again, in my head, I'm like, this is a, at the time, like a 19-year-old
kid coming up with all this stuff. I'm just like, this is wild. Like back in 2012, before these
podcasts were popping off and all this stuff, the information was not readily available like
it is now. And so he says that stuff. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm just thinking, okay, this is interesting.
And then I have Martin Groves, who was here in my studio talking about his experience in the LBL.
And in the LBL, he had, let me just write this note down just so I can tell you this later.
Okay.
Remind me about the dead Bigfoot.
Okay.
I'll write that down too.
So Martin Groves had this experience in 93.
And he, I think I've mentioned to that earlier, the sheriff.
And in this experience, though, he had, he was in this campsite.
Him and his partner have this dog man walk into their campsite.
And they're looking at it.
There were at least one or two off to the side in the shadows still.
When they, the whole thing starts happening.
It's unfolding.
And they finally, they're out.
They're running to the truck.
When they run to the truck, Martin jumps in the back of the truck.
His partner jumps in the driver's seat, lights it up, turns,
on when they turn it on across the the I guess the gravel road or whatever it is in the field
were two bigfoot and they were standing there staring on he said they were the most ugly
things he's ever seen in his entire life and they took off and later on he confirmed with his
hunting partner that his hunting partner saw it too so we again we have a situation where bigfoot
and dogman arriving in the same place at the same time and this goes in the face of everything that
I had heard up until recently about Bigfoot and Dogman because everybody was telling me,
oh, Bigfoot and Dogman, they don't get along.
It's like, you know, if they're in the same area, they're going to, you know, fight or something
like that, right?
Everybody's drawn at these.
And I think it might have come from, maybe they did see that.
You know, maybe they did see, somebody saw the tension between the two at one point.
But I think people ran with it thinking like, almost like, you know, gladiators fighting
and you come with this idea that, you know, dogman versus Bigfoot, who would win?
In reality, maybe they're working together.
And maybe they come from the same place.
And they have the same mission when they're here.
And maybe when you see a Bigfoot, a dog man is not far behind or vice versa.
And that's kind of scary to think about.
But it's one of those things where I was venturing with this idea with Martin when he was on the show.
You know how like, so sometimes you have a dog and you're walking.
your dog or you're out in the dog park or you're in the mountains, whatever. And the dog's not
listening to you and you're yelling at the dog. You're like, come on, let's go, you know, or you're pulling
on a leash. If somebody wasn't aware of the relationship between a human and a dog, you might think
that there was a struggle. In reality, there wasn't a struggle. It was just me, the owner, getting my dog,
come on, let's go, you know, and from the outside looking in, it might look aggressive. Maybe
there's a similar situation going on with Bigfoot and Dogman. And maybe one or the other, I'm not willing to
say either way, but is the one that's in rank and in charge. And so the other ones kind of
follow behind. Imagine if it's like, say it's Bigfoot. And Bigfoot's like, you know, standing in
there in the field, like in his experience, watching everything unfold. And it's like the
big foot brought the dogman and they unleashed their dogs, took the dogs off the leash,
go do your thing. I'll be here when you get back. Check this out. Scott says that he, the way
that he interprets everything and based on all his experiences,
He believes the dog man are kind of like a pet for the Bigfoot.
So I found that super interesting.
You'd say that.
It's very interesting.
And it's something that I wouldn't say no to.
I don't know.
All the stuff that I come to the conclusions on is based off of what I hear, people's experiences.
I go out in the woods.
I'm trying to hunt down these things with the camera and stuff like that.
But in reality, I haven't had these experiences.
I catch these experiences from other people and I draw my conclusions.
and it's something that it should be thought about a lot more than I think than what it is.
People, so another thing is Martin talks about hearing a metal,
it's what sounded like a metal door opening and closing in the LBL.
And this is a new phenomenon that apparently has been around a little while,
but it never came across my desk.
And people are reporting hearing these metallic sounds out in the woods,
like a door opening and closing.
And I just had a guy in my studio yesterday. His name's Phil. He has a YouTube channel called Exploring
with Phil. And he tells me for 25 minutes while he was in the Huckamuck Swamp inside the
Brough, the Bridgewater Triangle, in Massachusetts, he heard metallic sounds. And during the time
that he was hearing this metallic sound, he was hearing what sounded like glass, electronic
beeping, almost like a drone went down, grunting,
heavy grunting, heavy pounding on trees, trees getting pushed over, all within a 25-minute period.
And so what is it about this metal door, this metal sound that people are saying they hear?
I think I had a woman here a few months ago on my show who just left Tennessee.
I live in East Tennessee, and she moved from East Tennessee.
She moved from Virginia to East Tennessee because they wanted to live in the Smokies.
They lived here for seven years.
For seven years, they were tormented by.
Bigfoot on the property to the point that on December 31st last year, they closed on the property
and they moved to Indiana because of what was going on in the property. They bailed. It drove 10 hours
north and they're done. And so when she has this experience on the property, she talks about the
metal sound as well. And I don't even know if that made the show or not. I can't remember because
her and I talked, I think two hours after we were done recording and she even laid out more stuff.
And I was like, well, you already gave me three hours. So I'm kind of done recording. But she
heard the metal sounds. And so, again, I mentioned earlier in the beginning of the show,
the portal locations, the thinning of the veil locations, Bridgewater Triangle being one,
LBL being one, I think New Orleans is one, or the vicinity, Joshua Tree being one.
There's these locations, and what I want to do is start trying to see if I can find more
reports of metal sounds out in the woods in these locations, anywhere, really. But I have a sneaky
suspicion that when you hear the metal sound is because something is coming in and out of this realm.
Not that it's an actual door opening and closing, but maybe a portal opening and closing
makes that sound. Now, this is so funny that we're saying this because I've never thought about
this before, but I have access to a woman who is a witch and she has told me she is open and closed
portals before. What I need to do is reach out to her and ask her, is there a sound that you hear
when you open and close portals.
And just let her tell me if there is a sound or not.
And if there is a sound, what is the sound?
It would be a good way to find out if there is anything connected there.
But the metal sounds and the portal doors opening and closing is something I'm thinking about.
And the fact that Martin Groves had that experience.
And then he ran to the dogman and the Bigfoot that same night.
When he heard the metal sound, what I'm just calling the portal door opening closing,
right at that time is when he started getting paralleled by these dogs.
It was daytime.
And he thought it was a hunter's dogs running up on the hillside paralleling him.
And then he saw what he thought was the hunter himself standing behind a tree down the path more.
Could it have been the Bigfoot?
I don't know.
But there's definitely a correlation here between Bigfoot and Dogman appearing together
and appearing to work together at times.
And that should be terrifying for so many people because there's a lot of people that look at Bigfoot as the friendly forest giant.
If it's true that Bigfoot is working alongside of Dogman, we got a problem because everything that we hear about Dogman is absolutely terrifying unless you're a child.
There's been several times that people talk about Dogman as a child having an experience and the dogman is actually treating them very kindly like it took to them.
But everything that I hear from people as adults, it is an absolutely terrifying experience.
And so Bigfoot and Dogmen are working together, that's a problem.
Well, it also makes me wonder if it may be if it's just a territorial thing or they have these such terrifying displays because they just don't want you around.
But I want to go back to something you said that this guy said that Bigfoot is alike.
And I find that super interesting.
And the possibilities that what, that he is also some sort of shape shifting.
entity? Yeah. I mean, so, all right, I'm going to be having a guy coming down here in my studio,
hopefully soon within the next month. This is wild. I met him in Indiana. So I went,
I went to another state and I was working on this story. On the way back, I'm coming through
Indiana. And I run through a location where I have a previous guest on the show, episode 309,
J.R. A lot of people know the story, the predator I called it, and you were talking about the,
the see-through phenomenon. He experienced that as an outlaw, hiding on property from the law.
So I run through his house, because him and I've become friends since that recording,
and he wanted to show me around the property that he's seen, Dogman. And when I go there,
he has a guy come out to his house that he works with. And this, he's, he,
He's like, you got to talk to this guy.
He dated a werewolf.
And I'm like, I'm down.
So I met with this guy.
I recorded the conversation.
The audio is crap.
So I'm actually bringing him down to talk about this again.
But long story short, he dates a werewolf in high school.
And there's all this detail and story behind it.
But one thing he would say is that his girlfriend's gang of lichen, werewolves, would war with
other gangs of werewolves.
And when he was dating her, they were at war with a group of werewolves that were coming up
from Kentucky and Tennessee.
And they would often have these conflicts and interactions.
And he also said that there was another town north of him that she had problems with.
And when he mentioned that town, I took that town to a person that I know is associated
with the book. And I forget how I laid it out. But I asked if there was known werewolves and
lichen in that town. And they said, yes, there are. In fact, the main character of the book
had to go and take care of the lichen there because of them. I guess there was an alter. She said there
was an altercation that spilled out into the public. And so he had to go take care of it. So that's the
kind of caliper of guy I'm talking about here. He, he not only had these abilities to do,
you know, phenomenal things in this realm and in other realms, but he was, he was so powerful
that Lichen would submit to him. And he alone could go and take care of an entire gang of Lichen.
And so, I think, and this is where I'm not sure, but I think in the book, at some point,
they describe his ability to transform. And I think one of those transformations was like him,
but I don't remember exactly off the top of my head. But I can tell you that he was a bad dude.
And he doesn't have the abilities he once had. I think he still has abilities, but they're not
as strong because he's divorced himself from that world and has tried moving on from it.
And I think that's why he's so hesitant to talk to me. I think that he's worried what's going
to happen if he starts talking about it, is the other world going to come to him?
And so, yeah, but yeah, it's one of those things where Bigfoot Lichen, it was news to me.
It was news to me.
At the same time, I'm just like, I don't know, maybe, because people do talk about having
these Bigfoot encounters and some of these Bigfoot having more dog-like characteristics,
like having a snout.
And is it of a misidentification and it is actually a dog man?
maybe, or maybe Bigfoot is a form of lichen, so you get shades of different types of physical features.
I don't know.
That is absolutely insane.
Now, I got to go back to something that you said earlier, dead Bigfoot.
Was there a dead Bigfoot found?
Not yet.
I might be finding one.
So I was tipped off before I went to Washington to film.
I was given a lead that there.
there is a buried Bigfoot in Ohio.
And apparently about 65 years ago, there was a farmer.
He had his family.
One of his children went missing.
And then shortly after one of his kids went missing,
he had a daughter that was drug off by something.
And when that happened, he packed up the rest of his family.
They left the property and they didn't return for a year.
When they returned after a year,
the front of the house is pretty much taken off.
And there was something that was living inside the house.
When they came up, it walks out and they unload on it.
They start shooting it, and it takes off into the woods.
They take off after it, and apparently a Colt 45 to the neck took it out.
Now we got a dead big foot.
They buried it, and they marked the location with two big stones,
and then they planted two sapling trees,
and they twisted the trees together as they grew to mark where the grave was.
the person that tells me this story, he was told the story by a local.
And he tells me that he called me the day.
And he's like, listen, I'm going out there.
I'll let you know what I find.
He sends me pictures of two twisted trees twisted together.
Holy shit.
And he's like, I found it.
And so I'm like, oh my gosh.
I'm organizing right now, a group of guys.
my guys that I do stuff stuff with and we are going to go and and try to exhum a big foot body.
After 65 years, I don't know what is left. I don't know. It all depends on the kind of soil that they have,
how acidic it is, I guess. But man, if I could just find a bone, it'd be, it'd be, here's the thing.
If I find any kind of bone that's not really, if I don't have much, it's just a few bones or something,
I got a problem because I can't say it was Bigfoot,
but what I can say is I got to report it, right?
So I can't just dig up, what if it's a human body, you know?
I can't just dig it up and take it home with me.
If it is something, you've just broadcast it,
so maybe the Bigfoot men in black will be there waiting for yourself.
Yes, that's what I'm hoping for.
We got 6K cameras.
We're going to get them on video too.
So ultimately what I hope happens is
I spend time up there digging and we find
at least a pretty somewhat connected skeleton of some kind that's absolutely huge.
And what I'll do at that point, I will go live.
I'll be taking tons of pictures, videos, and we're going to go live on the social media
so people can, and I will tell people screen record right now, screen record this right now.
So it can't just disappear.
And I'll be, I'll lay next to it.
I'll be like, you know, look how I'm six feet.
Look how tall this thing is, you know.
but I mean in all honesty
I hope it happens
I hope it all goes the way I just laid out
but I'm not expecting much
you know like we might
we might have a situation here where
there could have been a family tragedy
and to remember
the tragedy
they marked somebody's grave
like that
and over the years
there became this legend because
the person that died was
really big and hairy, you know, or something.
I don't know.
Yeah.
There's a really strong chance
that could be something like that.
And so I'm going to have fun,
do what I do,
which is just throw mud against the wall
and see what sticks.
But ultimately, it would be amazing
if I uncovered a skeleton
that was, say, eight feet
and I could broadcast that to the world.
Even if it wasn't like,
Bigfoot.
Like, that's a giant skeleton.
Yeah.
And we have those rumors throughout the entire country of people digging up giant skeletons
and all of a sudden they disappear to the Smithsonian.
Well, you know, I'm trying to find myself a skeleton that's a giant too, you know?
Like, stop holding out on me.
Yeah, man.
Dude, that's crazy.
I hope that you find something.
That'd be excellent.
I want to get your thoughts on a few more things here.
The little people of the forest, this really,
creeped me out when Scott was describing this.
He said up close, they would be hairy, covered in hair, black skin.
But at night, you could see their eyes shine, and they'd look like spinning kaleidoscopes
of different colors.
And he said, actually, it seemed like their eye shine would color, the color would change
depending on what mood they were in.
So they'd have like blue kaleidoscope, little spinning eyeballs in the middle of the forest
looking at you.
And he said, they weren't no more than about, you know,
three, four, five foot tall little people. Have you heard of anything like this?
No, no, not not that detailed. I mean, so here in East Tennessee, we have the legends of the
little people and the smokies throughout from my side of the mountain into North Carolina,
their side of the mountain. And we have the little people that supposedly, I think the,
there was, there's actually, I forget where it was. It's some island. I, uh,
I just interviewed a guy last week talking about this a little bit.
And there was an island and there was documentation of, what's the little, in Hollywood,
those little people, the hobbits.
So there was documented proof that they existed and that they were real in this area.
And the guy who was uncovering this information said that he believed that there was proof
that the hobbits were on this island's location.
as early as or as late as 1920s.
And then he died shortly after that
and nobody really uncovered what he was talking about.
But if that's true,
if little people existed in this location
up into the 1920s,
like it's not far-fetched to believe
that there could be a population of little people somewhere
still in existence in remote areas.
And let me tell you,
the Smoky Mountains is a very remote area.
I mean, once you get up in there, there, listen, there are places that people haven't been to before because it's inaccessible.
There's, there's a plane crash in the smokies that at one time it was able to, you were able to get to it.
But where I live, it's considered a rainforest. And the Ketsu vines that grow here grow, I think, two to four feet a day.
And so it's like, things get overgrown. And so there's so many areas of the smoke.
Mokies that you just can't get to. And the plane crash, they can't get to it anymore. Like,
nobody knows really where it's at because it's just kind of been reclaimed by nature. So in these
kind of environments, it's very possible that there could be small civilization of little people.
And now you don't even have to worry about the scientific side of things like, well, what are
they going to eat? Well, they're going to eat whatever we eat. They're little. This is a weird
part about it. Scott seems to believe that these particular ones he encountered,
were a type, a different type of bigfoots that they had the same type of weird abilities.
They could cloak that they would be in the same vicinity, but they were just a lot smaller
and they looked slightly different at times, but they seem to have many similarities,
which is very interesting as well.
Yeah, I mean, what he describes seems very paranormal.
This isn't, this isn't like natural.
Like what I was just talking about is trying to just connect the diet.
That's for people who want the logical, you know, natural side of things, you know, but what he
described is extremely paranormal.
The way the eyes and what he described with the eyes and stuff, it seems like, I really want
to talk to Scott.
No, we're going to get you hooked up.
But it seems like what was the first situation that he went through?
Was it the, the, he was in a deer stand pointing his gun out, his rifle, and he looked
through the scope.
He saw the big foot and he panned over, saw the dog man, and they started psychically
talking to him. Yeah, so it seems like that was a marker in his life. And I think that there are
definitely marker spots in people's lives. Like people will tell stories like this happened. And once
this happened, all this other stuff started happening too. And again, if we're talking about
interdimensional beings, things, beings that that have supernatural abilities, if you have an experience
with one of those entities, does the mere fact that you had an experience changed something about
you that makes you glow brighter to these other entities in these other dimensions and attract
them to you because I don't know I don't know how to to say it but it changes something about
you and we see that in a very visual realistic way in the Bigfoot world people who have had a
Bigfoot encounter, it seems like they go one or two, one of two ways. Either they accept the
encounter and they're just like, I had an experience, it is what it is. Or they had an encounter
and it changed them and they all of a sudden dive into the topic. They start looking into it.
They start going to Bigfoot conferences. They start collecting tons of Bigfoot stuff.
They start going out there trying to replicate the experience and find it again. And all of a
sudden they become they were once billy bob that worked in i.tie down the street and all of a sudden
they're they're just bigfoot dude all over the place running around trying to find a monster in
the woods that they never believed in before it changes you and so what if that that's the
case where people who have these experiences it's a paranormal experience it's a supernatural experience
and you supernaturally change from that experience well i think scott is a perfect example of that
because it evolved from that one experience to frequently seeing bigfoot's and having this psychic communication to these things would start going in and out of his house.
He'd have invisible things in his house.
Then he'd start having these dreams of mantis and gray extraterrestrial beings taking him in tunnels.
And then they'd have a big foot walking alongside of them.
And then the experiences would be not only dreamlike, but he'd have these missing time experiences.
or very hazy experiences in the woods where he'd encounter something that he couldn't explain.
And one of the most profound encounters he had was with a group of other people, they're sitting in the truck and they're actually looking for some of this stuff to happen.
Well, all of a sudden, a light beam shoots down from the sky, forms what they can only describe as a portal and three light beings, about seven foot tall, walk out of this light being.
And they walk right in front of the truck and they don't even pay attention to them.
They're just walking right in front of the truck and they walk down a hill until they're out of view.
And they're just sitting there watching this whole thing and the light just kind of dissipates into the forest.
So there is all kinds of strange connections with Bigfoot and apparently even extraterrestrials.
Or it's just a spectrum of life, a reality that's just beyond our vision that we can.
can't perceive that's always around us that these beings are existing in. What do you think?
Well, I think that that's very possible. Let me ask you about Scott's situation.
You said he was out there, I guess, looking for this kind of stuff. Yeah, he was with a group of
people that have experienced the same, are strange, you know, similar strange things,
and they were sitting out doing a little stakeout in the middle of the woods sitting in a truck.
Were they running video?
No, that time they tried to take pictures, but they couldn't get anything.
And he said whenever this occurred, they were just, they didn't even think about the cameras
for some reason.
They were in this relaxed state of awe.
And they just, you know, it was a very strange experience.
Like a lot of people report being in this drugged out state to where they're just kind
of watching this occur.
And after it's over, they're like, why didn't I film that, you know?
Yeah.
And that kind of comes back to what I was talking about, the bridge.
slipping into another version of this reality.
Like you're in a transitional period,
transitional state existence where you don't even know you slipped.
Like James did, he walks out of the portal or out of the porta potty,
portal potty.
Maybe I should have called the show of that.
And all of a sudden something's different, right?
So what if what he saw was only possible because where he was,
they unknowingly slipped onto a bridge.
And so what he sees is something that is maybe even aware of him,
but knows that there's nothing he can do about anything
because of where they're at.
Maybe whatever they saw knew where it was at,
but he, Scott and the friends,
didn't realize that they had already slipped into something else.
And if you're talking,
the reason why I asked about the video
and you mentioned about pictures and they couldn't get it or whatever,
we hear that all the time.
You know, malfunctions with cameras and stuff.
Maybe that's because, you know, on the bridge, just like when you go deep into the
Smoky Mountains, you can't get cell phone reception.
When you're on the bridge, electronics don't seem to work because the properties of
physics or whatever, I don't know, I'm just a podcaster.
They change, though.
I mean, we're not talking about this reality.
We're talking about not this existence.
We're talking about something completely different.
And so when I talk about on my show, and I've referenced it several times, the upside down is real.
It is.
It's real.
And people find themselves in what seems like this reality, but it's not totally this reality.
It's something different about it.
That's what I'm talking about.
This bridge, and when you're there, technology may not work the same way.
and so when it comes to the light being and everything that he saw, these are beings,
these are entities that obviously know how to trans, go through different realms, unlike we do.
And I even was talking to somebody recently about this.
And I suggested that could it be, because I'm a Christian, I talk about it in the show.
So when it comes to the Bible and we hear people, the story.
of Adam and Eve and how sin, you know, got him kicked out of the garden to Eden,
could the Garden of Eden been another realm? And we got kicked out of that realm into another
realm that had more handcuffs on what our abilities are as spiritual beings. And maybe there's
other entities and other realms that never lost those abilities. And so I just, it's something
to think about. I mean, it really is. And with this situation and stuff, I mean, these light
clearly have abilities that we don't.
And they probably were aware of him and just didn't care that he was there because
there's nothing he could do about it and they knew it.
Yeah, man.
And speaking a little bit further into the evolutionary process that a person goes through
whenever they're experiencing this, he is 100% going through that.
He was just a simple hunter, just wanted to live his life now.
He's digging into books.
He's going on to talk shows.
He's quickly becoming the Bigfoot Dogman expert on a lot of things.
things. But not only that, his experiences are evolving to a point where he believes he's being taken in this astral states and being taught things by these extraterrestrials. He believes he's being taught how to fight on some level by these beings. And that adds a whole other level to this because I've heard of this before that people, they may have started with simple experiences. And the next thing, you know, they're being taught in some sort of astral alien classroom, how.
how to speak with their mind and make blocks levitate and things like that.
So this is so weird, but it's so fascinating.
No, it's absolutely fascinating.
And going back to my book, the guy, the main character in the book,
I mean, when he talked about the Nephlem in the other realm,
the reason why he brought them up is because he said he was operated on by Nephlam.
And what they were doing is they were giving him the ability to fly in this other realm
to better his ability to war and battle.
And he was being taught how to fight.
And he became a warrior in this realm.
And so it's not the first time I heard this.
And it's one of those things where I think that a lot of people's experiences
are holding puzzle pieces to the big picture.
And I think we're starting to get really close to the big picture.
And it concerns me to the point where we want to seek truth.
and we want to seek the unknown and find answers and what are people experiencing.
But if we're getting close to actually answering these age-old questions and we're starting to
really get a bigger picture as to what's going on, is there a reason for that?
Are we getting close to something that is allowing us to get the bigger picture?
Because when we have the bigger picture, could it be that, not that we're going to be
enlightened, but it times out for us. And there's a reason why it doesn't matter that we know or not.
Yeah. I always thought that this phenomenon, there's a level of mystery that we're not supposed to understand, and it always seems to be like 10 to 20 steps ahead of everything we're doing. But if what you're saying is true, if it's allowing us to get more of a glimpse into that, what does this mean for?
Yeah, it can be concerning, especially depending on how you view everything. But the fact is, there seems to be a real big uptick right now, at least in my personal life with my experience.
with talking with people, there seems to be a big uptick with people coming forward talking about
this dogman, liking, werewolf situation, roo-garoo. And why is that? Because these things are
vicious. These things are not nice. You don't want to run into them. They're not cute. Why are they
becoming more prevalent? Is it because we're getting close to something and they're arriving for something
that's going to be epic? I don't know. But I do wonder if one day, hopefully not ever because I got
kids that I have to live in this world and their in my my offspring you know my lineage but I do wonder
is it going to be one day where we are not just running in fear of somebody that is a psychopath
you know trying to shoot kids in a school but rather that plus these monsters that roam the streets
now it's terrifying we're getting to the point where our own governments are taught like we like
we talk about this so much it's I'm tired of talking about it
but the government talking about UFOs and all that stuff.
Why?
We know they've known for a very long time.
Why are they talking about it now?
And that's just one aspect of it.
They're not talking about dogmen.
They're not talking about Bigfoot.
If what is going on in the UFO abduction, UFO-citing world of the government
is a mirror image of what's happening with all these other topics,
we should be very concerned.
If the government's coming out and talking about all these things,
things that are happening now today in modern times and it's a mirror image of all these other topics
that they're just choosing to ignore and not admit publicly for whatever reason we should be very
concerned about what's coming down the road and um you know like i these are the things that
keep me up at night so yeah oh dude we do we live in fascinating times some of the things that are
happening right now are just mind-blowing but i'm fascinated by it and i'm hopeful that we won't
be eaten alive by aliens or giant nephalum creatures and then we'll just learn a little bit more
about the mystery. But who knows, it's definitely a great time to be alive, super interesting.
Tony, thank you so much for coming on. This was fantastic. Before you head out, let everyone know
where they can find you, the confessionals, and all your good stuff. Well, I appreciate you having
me on again. Like I said, every time I come on, it's just a fun conversation. You do a great job of
guiding my mindset through topics and stuff. And I just kind of like vomit.
stuff for an hour and it's great. It's great, man. I tend to connect dots. I'm going to be listening
back to this because some of the things I said on this recording, I'm like, wait a second,
I never thought of that before. Let me look into that more. So I'll be listening back to myself.
But you can find me, the Confessionals. It's the podcast I started. It's the Confessionalspodcast.com,
all the podcast playing apps. Also, merkle. Dotmedia. No.com. It's just Merkel.
That's where you can find all the stuff that I'm doing with the company. We have Expedition Dog
out right now. Expedition Dogman.
out right now on Amazon and Tobe and other platforms.
We're coming out with our Bigfoot film later this year.
And around Christmas time, we're shooting a Bigfoot movie.
And we are going to that location I mentioned earlier in the LBL.
And we're going to spend about a week hunting the Dogman in the LBL.
And hopefully we have some gnarly interactions we survive.
Hell yeah, man.
Can't wait for that.
Tony, thank you so much.
We'll definitely have to do this again soon.
And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening.
talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all then.
