The Confessionals - Supernatural Warfare & the Attack That Came At The Conference | Slingshot Nation
Episode Date: August 21, 2026A violent storm. A hotel-wide emergency broadcast. Contaminated water. A gate ripped from its entrance. And unexplained static erupting through the sound system just as Tony prepared to preach about ...supernatural warfare.Coincidence? Or was something pushing back?In this episode of Slingshot Nation, Tony, Derek and Jack unpack the bizarre string of events surrounding Remnant Rising and the moment Tony believes spiritual authority was handed off to him. From suspected spiritual opposition and strange technical interference to past moments when unexplained voices, knocks, and disruptions appeared during The Confessionals, the question becomes impossible to ignore: can supernatural warfare manifest in the physical world?They also dig into the biblical framework behind the conversation, including elemental spirits and the storms of Mark 4 and 5.Was the chaos surrounding Remnant Rising simply a brutal storm and a series of technical failures, or was something trying to stop the message before it could be delivered?Welcome to Slingshot Nation.Take Control of Your Money and claim $10 in US Stablecoin (USA₮)! Download now at http://wallet.rumble.com/Confessionals and use the code confessionals10.This is a paid advertisement for Rumble Wallet. Rumble is compensating me for this ad.Void where prohibited. No purchase necessary. Offer available to US residents only. Offer not available in New York State. Must be 18+. Offer is available for a limited time and for the first 500 wallets activated and funded. Details and full official rules available at http://rumble.com/promoofficialrules.If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890If you missed Remnant Rising 2.0 Conference there's still a chance to see Tony's sermon. Catch all the speakers right here 👉: https://bit.ly/4qcC8da📕 Pre-order Tony's Book: https://a.co/d/0bJS3SaVBecome a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyIVERMECTIN: twc.health/tonyVENICE AI: https://venice.ai/theconfessionalsRUMBLE WALLET: https://rumblewallet.onelink.me/bJsX/ConfessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media6726 Morganton RdP.O. Box #08Greenback, TN 37742SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jyorkofficialOUTRO MUSICTony Merkel - Grace Boom ft. BAMNow on Spotify
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Oh boy, is that a slingshot?
Yeah, yeah.
Slingshot season.
Hey, let's run it.
Grace hit me like boom.
Like too, bro.
Welcome to another Slinkshot Nation live, everybody.
Thank you very much for being here.
I'm glad you're here.
And thanks for sticking with us because we had some tech issues.
It feels like you could explain it away in the natural,
but with the way things are going today on this show,
I think everybody at the end of it will conclude.
that the experiences we had before the show started
is only contributing to the topic that we're going to be discussing.
So we're going to be talking about supernatural warfare,
spiritual warfare,
and how that has actually played out in our lives
just a few weeks ago when we were in Missouri.
We didn't talk about it last week
because we were trying to get some video of what happened
to gather that to be able to share with you today.
We don't have all the video that we are looking for,
but we do have some video to show you what happened in Missouri
and how that kind of plays out into the messaging I was preaching on.
And we're going to have a good time discussing it.
Today we got in studio here in the flesh.
Derek, you have a beautiful shirt on, by the way.
I just looked at it now.
Hubba, hubba.
That's a nice shirt.
It's like blue and flowers.
Flowers.
Yeah.
Everywhere.
Yeah, it looks good, man.
Is that too?
Can I try it on?
I haven't.
How you doing, man?
Good, man.
So good to be here.
Yeah, I'm glad you're here, man.
You made a quick trip up north.
You did a wedding, and that was all fun and dandy.
Indian wedding.
Was that your first one?
No, I married an Indian.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
That's true.
That's why you're at an Indian wedding.
Yeah.
But was it like that one?
Ours was much smaller.
But did you have to dress?
I had to wear the hijib or whatever.
I forget what it's called.
Yeah.
When you got married?
Yeah.
Oh, are pictures of that?
I have to drag them out for you.
Dude, we need to have them.
I'll dig them out for you.
Please.
Can we share my slings?
I got one of those giant red scarves.
Oh, yeah.
I had like the little pointy shoes.
I felt like Aladdin.
Oh, dude, you have a flying carpet?
No.
Oh, man.
Well, you sing like Aladdin, so there you go.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Jack, your hair's looking beautiful, as always.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you, sir.
The wrong camera.
Wrong camera.
Thank you, so.
Thank you.
You doing good?
I'm great.
I'm great.
Yes, thank you.
Glad to be here, as always, in the flesh, in the studio.
I am in the flesh because you said that to Derek, but, you know, I'm also here in the
flesh.
Yes, well, sometimes.
I'm not ethereal.
Sometimes Derek's digital, and we just put him in with AI.
Yes.
He's really a hologram.
You know, what is he, Obi-One?
Ooh, I don't know what that means because I don't watch movies.
No, just kidding.
I know that one is, kind of.
Well, he's not Leah.
Who?
Never mind.
We're done.
Do you have anything new in your life at all?
No, yes?
Yeah, there's some good stuff going on.
Is there anything you want to share the class or no?
We'll just say that.
There's good stuff going on.
Good stuff.
Good stuff going on.
Jack's living life.
Hair, luscious, as always.
conditioner every morning and night.
Should we take a poll
about that YouTube shirt
that we were going to make a Jack?
What YouTube shirt?
Oh, yeah.
Do you have that picture, by the way?
Not like on hand here.
Yeah, if you can work on it
throughout the show,
even if we're off the topic,
bring it up.
Because I want to know,
you as the listening audience
and the viewing audience,
we talk about Jack's hair all the time.
It's beautiful.
I'm absolutely jealous.
That's why I talk about it.
And I kind of made it a little fun design
that we're kicking around the idea.
Do we make this a T-shirt for people to...
Like, I don't know if people would buy it or not, but it would be fun.
I would buy it. I would buy it. I would buy it. I need to wear it.
I know. And I'm going to cut the sleeves off on it, too.
I'm wearing it when I work out.
See, that's what it would be.
It would be a sleeveless workout shirt.
Yes.
Where people have...
Yes. Yes. I think that's the move.
Okay. Is it going to be hard to find, Jack? Should we move on? Do you have it?
Well, it's not going to be an immediate thing. I'm getting it right now.
Man, man, man.
Should we introduce our guest for me?
I guess so.
We have a guest here.
I don't know if Jack can use his thumbs to push the button.
There he is.
Jade.
How you doing, man?
Doing good.
I'm glad you're here.
Thank you.
So, uh, I'm glad to be here.
Who you are?
Who are you?
Where are you from?
Uh, my name is Jade Mapes.
Um, I currently reside in West Tennessee.
Um, yeah.
And you fight demons.
Uh, wouldn't say that, but they don't like me.
No, they don't like you.
They don't like any of us in here.
The fact, if you're watching right now, demons don't like you either.
So get with you.
the program.
Yeah, that's why we had technical.
We had technical issues just trying to get this started.
Yeah, dude.
And it was funny is that when, oh, we found.
There it is.
The picture.
Go bring it back up.
No, I'll bring it back up.
I will bring it back up.
Oh, shoot, I just hit remove.
Oh, darn it.
There we go.
There we go.
Look at that.
Oh, yeah.
As seen on YouTube.
Yeah, I need that shirt.
Right?
Thumbs up right now, everyone.
Please.
Man, that'd be fun.
That'd be fun.
If you get in tie-dive, even better.
But no, so Jade gets here and he sits down and he goes, just so you know, when, I forget how you said it, but you're like, electronics tend to go bad around me.
I'm like, well, funny you say that because it's almost like the topic of the show.
And then soon it's like 15 minutes later, we're having check issues and stuff.
And we all look at Jade and just glared at him and said, get out.
Sorry, guys.
That is what it is.
I warn you.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
But no, I'm glad everybody's here.
I'm glad everybody's tuning in with us. Thank you for being here. We got a fun crew here today, and it's going to be a fun conversation. Before we get into that, I just want to let you guys know, we are so dirt close to opening up Merk merch again. Now, I don't know if Merck Merch is actually going to look different, but the tech side on the back end, when we open that door up again, it's going to be working. And so you'll be able to order hats like this one here, our T-shirts, hoodies, things like that. And we're going to be working on a lot more merch because our hands are going to be on it now. So I moved away from the
third party stuff years ago. And then I started working closely with the company in Dallas that
warehoused my stuff. And we just had this awesome deal going. And then as time went on,
I was like, you know what? We have, we have space to work. And I wanted to have my merch in-house.
So I would touch it and see what's everything's, everything is going out my door. I know. And so we took it
in-house. And that's been the process of taking down Merk merch because we don't want you guys
ordering stuff when we're not prepared to actually deliver it to you. So I think we're really
close. Jack said we're days away. So by this time next week, hopefully MerckMurch will be up
and be shipping product. And I'm excited, but we have the coffee that's going to be on there.
Yeah, we got the coffee that's going on. Our four flavors. We got the UAP, the Harryman's
House Blend. All of it's actually gone really well. We've sold it at some of the conferences,
and it's done really well people really like it. If you come out to a conference, they're actually
giving out samples of the coffee to people.
and stuff, so we're pretty popular at the conferences.
We have the coffee.
You know, you got coffee? I'm there.
You know, but yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.
And one of the ideas that we have is not every week, but it kind of be fun if it was every
week.
If it would be worked out of process, it'd be kind of fun to like this week, or let's just
use last week for an example.
Last week we talked about vampires.
I hear people really liked it a lot.
And it'd be really kind of cool to maybe come out with a custom t-shirt design based
off last week's episode and maybe even have like the name or something.
So it's like identified as the episode.
And then this week, we present that design to you as a pre-order.
And it will be pre-order for a week until next week.
And then the pre-orders cut off.
Whoever pre-ordered, it gets that T-shirt.
And we move on to the next one and just kind of rapid fire.
Awesome T-shirt designs to you guys that are unique.
But that's only impossible through MercMurch.com.
So we're working on it.
We love you guys.
Also, it seems like we're getting really close to October and there's something happening.
What is that?
Not Halloween?
Oh, that's right.
My book is.
dropping October 6th and you can pre-order it now and it can help a lot with the algorithm
pushing it to other people. A lot of you guys have pre-ordered already and I very much appreciative
of that. I think that the book is going to help a lot of people in life in general. Like,
it's going to be an entertaining book. It's going to be me documenting my journey, starting from
my childhood into current times on how I view the supernatural, why I have this twisted view of the
supernatural. How did I get there? It's all documented in the book through my own personal
experiences and things that were said on the show that maybe connect dots. At the end of the book,
though, I believe that I put it all together in a very succinct message that leaves you with
only one option if everything I'm saying is true or if even part of it's true. So if that interests
you, the book, The Confessionals, Exposing War and Kingdoms is available October 6th. Then you can
pre-order right now. Link in the description of this episode. It'll take you to Amazon where you can
have a lot of fun hitting that pre-order. Also, friends, we have the newsletter. You can hit the link in the
description of this episode and sign up for the newsletter, Jade, you can do that.
But yeah, so go ahead and sign up for the newsletter. Last time I checked, we were just coming
up on 300 people that signed up for the newsletter. And the only reason why it's not 300 is because
I don't think I talk about enough. So go ahead and sign up for the newsletter because that's going
to be my way to be able to connect with you through all storms of life. We're going to use a storm theme
today. So, you know, when the power gets turned down and they put me in the shadows,
I'll still be able to talk to you if you sign up for the newsletter. So go ahead and do that today.
What are you waiting for? Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Okay. So last thing I got is I just want to
remind people that we do have memberships that we offer. Every week, I do the Tuesday show,
which is me sitting down with usually just one other person for a conversation. And then we do
the Slingshot Nation live shows on Thursdays. But every Thursday,
members get access to a whole other episode where I sit down with somebody and talk to him about
whatever. And if that interests you, you want more of the show on a week of basis, go ahead and
join us today on the memberships. So I don't know. What do you guys think? Do you want to talk about
the on-demand link real quick? Yeah. No, I don't remember. Okay. So if you, because some
people missed this conference, if you wanted to see the conference in a, in whole, in its entirety.
Hold on a say, yeah, get back to me.
Now I remember.
What you're about to hear and what you're about to experience on this show
happened at the conference that you can actually watch on demand right now, link in the description below.
We're going to get into things that they actually, one of the reasons why we were, which is what you were saying, I know.
But one of the things that we were waiting on was I wanted the actual footage from the conference where this
happened at. But when they, when, you know, they have a product to put out, so they actually cut
the action out of what happened. And I was like, no, but the guys were recording on their
phones. So we got it on phone footage. Jade has no idea what we're talking about. And that's
intentional. But it's going to be fun. We're going to get in this conversation. And before we do,
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Listen, thanks a lot for Rumble for sponsoring these live shows.
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But so listen, let's let's get into the business here, guys.
We have, we got things to discuss.
And I would like to, let me set some, set some groundwork.
work here. One, our guests here in studio today, Jade, will have particular things, I'm sure that
he'll, that will flag in his mind. He has, him and I are going to be sitting down doing a recording
today talking about his life and his experiences with the supernatural realm, which are pretty
mind-boggling in the natural, but when you have supernatural worldview lenses, it takes a whole
other form. And I think as we discuss what happens supernaturally at this conference, he might
have some things to say. So Jay, feel free to chime in any time you, even though you weren't there.
You didn't see your first time. Use your imagination, buddy. Yeah. So, listen, this conference,
I want to talk about, like, how it went first. Before we get into what happened,
I feel like it was really good. And I feel like there was a great turnout. And there was,
there was almost like if you if you think about things before a storm uh there was a brewing that was
happening you could feel the energy there was energy in the room uh and whenever there's that energy
like godly energy um and you're you're about to just swing hard the enemy swings back hard and that's
one thing that i'm learning uh like in the moment uh as i'm going through these different seasonal changes
of my life over the last couple, last year, two years, especially within the last few months,
I just, this idea of every time I swing hard for the Lord, I'm now at the point where I'm
expecting something to happen where the enemy swings back. And it's not that I'm defeated.
It's just me acknowledging that I'm in a war. And I'm not a casualty, but quite frankly,
there are casualties in a war and you see it spiritually in people. Sometimes they get beat up to the
point that it manifests, you know. But when we're talking about like understanding that every day
you wake up and you're in a middle of a war, there is going to be attack. And when you find yourself
in a position where you are submitting to what has been put on you to accomplish in your life
from God, you wind up by default taking really big swings. And that's when they swing back as well.
And they try to match that energy. I feel like that was kind of what was happening in the room.
Like, things were bubbling up. What did you guys think about the whole conference and stuff in
general? Yeah. I mean, we got to meet and hang out with John Pounders, who's an awesome guy.
You know, Jamie Walden was there, Vicky Joy. Like, we had, I think, a really great camarader.
with all the different groups of people that were there.
And I felt really intentional that we were all together in this specific time
because it feels like God is shifting things.
God is moving in this next generation,
which is, you know, what Mike would kept mentioning,
or Steve kept mentioning over and over that like this is for the next generation coming.
And you couldn't help but feel that energy in the conference as well
that there was a shift happening.
And it's crazy because it's like we get used to spiritual warfare.
We get it all the time.
But it feels like it's like a leak in the boat.
right? It's like, oh, there's a leak and you stick your finger in it, you put some gum on it,
you pray over it, you know what you mean? And it's like the enemy just keeps finding little leaks
and pops any which way it can interfere or distract us. And so this was no different. You know,
this was no different. This is probably one of the biggest kind of interferences that we've dealt with.
But overall, the conference was, I think, very much ordained and purposeful for the mission.
Yeah, and I think that you brought a good point. There was a shifting environment the entire time we were there.
the leaders of the conference were continually saying how they're trying to bring in and bring up the next generation of them to carry on this mission.
And they were very intentional about who they were inviting to this conference.
And, you know, you got Pounders, me, Walden, um...
Larry Ragland.
Yeah, but I'm trying to.
And Larry's in the chat.
I forgot to mention him.
I was trying to ignore him because, you know, I secretly don't like him.
but, you know,
oh, I say how loud.
I was just brainstorming.
You know, the pastor, he's just jealous
because you speak better than him.
He does.
It's true. It's true.
It's true.
He does.
I'll admit to that.
I constantly compare myself to how he preaches.
Bro, he had me crying Sunday, man.
I was like just weeping over myself.
But that's the thing.
So, like, I was sitting there and he was preaching.
We had gone through this, this, like, shifting event, right?
Like, we all could feel things were shifting.
And then he's preaching.
And I found myself sitting there.
And I had told this already to him.
We had a really good turnout, you know, as far as, like, people who knew who we were,
came to visit our table and stuff like that.
In fact, it was, it was, I've never seen a turnout like that before.
And so I was contemplating that.
And Larry's preaching, and he said something that was totally off topic of where my mind went with it.
But I found myself sitting there listening to a preach and just like asking God, like,
why am I here?
and why do people seem to like this,
like as far as like what I do?
Because I don't totally understand that.
And I really felt like the Holy Spirit
just said to me,
because I put you here.
And it's like,
it was just a,
it was a mind open.
Oh, there's Larry.
I will not be ignored.
Apparently, Jack's on his payroll now.
But, uh,
it just happened during that conference.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was just like,
I really felt like there was,
this moment where I realized that, you know, because I tend to put a lot of pressure on myself in this
unnecessary pressure. And I just realized that it was like this scales lifting off my eyes moment.
And I was just like, oh, like literally I've done nothing here, all him. So I should probably
stop treating him like he's a fragile piece of glass that I could break and just let him work and cook.
Yeah. That's right. And so Lord Jesus, through me cook as much as you want.
So you brought up the idea of we're kind of used to attacks, spiritual warfare.
And it just reminded me that when we were interviewing Jason for the job, one of the things that came up during the interview, I told him, I said, listen, if you work for me, like, there is going to be spiritual warfare on this team.
And it happens often. You're going to be seeing that at time.
and I want you to be fully aware of that
before you say yes to this.
This is not cupcake.
This is like,
it actually happens.
And, you know,
and I understood he understood that.
But he got to experience that how many times
since he's the short period of time
that he's been with me?
I think it was the first day he worked.
His credit card got hacked.
And it's happened three times now.
And he's only been with us for like three months.
And he broke his tooth on the first day.
Oh, and he broke his tooth.
Yeah.
And we traveled out to middle Tennessee to do that service.
and yeah, like he got to experience a lot of different things already.
It's kind of wild.
And just last night, we were tipped off that there's a witch
that's trying to infiltrate the show.
And I just sent the information to you guys.
And Jason's like, holy crap.
I'm just like, yeah, yeah, that's a Wednesday.
But yeah, we got our profile, so we know to look out for.
So just praying.
Yeah, just pray against it.
Abuk anything against it, you know?
Yeah, for sure.
But so, yeah, as this week goes on, and we were the first day, as far as me preaching, you have this energy buildup.
And it's like, I'm excited to share the message that I feel like it was put on my heart.
And I go up there.
Should I just go into it, I guess?
Yeah, go ahead.
Are we ready for that?
Yeah.
I just want to make sure I'm not skipping anything.
You direct it, man.
So I'm standing there, and I've already...
All right, let me preface it with this.
We were told, before this had happened,
I think it was the first day of the conference.
We were pulled aside by those leading the conference
and just said that...
I'm trying to be careful how I say this publicly.
They were aware that there's a strong chance
that there were some witches present at the conference.
Well, they were intentionally even praying against witchcraft,
like the whole year leading up to the event, too.
Right.
Yeah.
And leading up to the event,
I had told you guys that I had a feeling
that something like that was coming on this trip.
And so when we were pulled aside,
it was more of confirmation of what we were already preparing for.
And so, you know, it doesn't...
What do you do?
You just keep going.
It's like, whatever.
I text Lindsay and Lindsay's like, well, maybe they'll come to Christ.
I was like, that's exactly what I needed my wife to say.
You know what I mean?
Because to be honest, in that moment, I wasn't even really thinking that.
I was just informing her.
And she's like, well, maybe they'll come to Christ.
And I was like, man, that's why I married you, you know?
And so I go up to this stage.
I'm being introduced.
And Patrick's doing a fine job hosting the event.
I walk up on stage.
He brings me up.
and when you're, you know, being introduced by the host,
you'll shake their hand or you give him a hug.
I give him a hug.
Now, he's like, like, the size of a napro.
Something like that.
He's a monster.
Like, I mean, he's like 100 feet tall and his wide.
260 all muscle.
Yeah.
He's a monster.
Yeah.
And so I go to give him a hug feeling like a midget.
And I reach up to this tower to put my arms around him.
And because I didn't want to do like around his waist.
I was like, like, I've been like, Daddy.
You know?
I didn't want to do the daddy hug.
So I tried doing the bro hug with him.
And as soon as I mean this,
I know you guys were there, you saw it,
but from my perspective and his perspective being right there,
as soon as I had the lapel mic right in the middle.
So I'm not holding a microphone.
I don't have a microphone on my ear.
I have a lapel mic on my chest, already wired,
and as soon as I go to give him a hug
and as soon as my lapel mic
touches his chest
you heard the bump
on the mic
all of a sudden
chaos breaks out
and the PA system in the room
starts going hectic
just loud extremely loud
deafening static
and I was just like what
and I thought I did that
yeah I was like oh dang it
I ruined it, man.
Like, I didn't want to use a handheld.
I'm like, that's what I was thinking.
I was like, man, I've got to do this handheld thing now, you know, because I didn't want to do the handheld.
And so it's going.
It's super loud.
Super loud.
And I thought I did that.
So I turn around and people were just like confused.
They're like, what do we do, you know?
And it's just, it's not turning off.
And so I'm talking like probably about, and feel free if I'm missing anything in the process of this story, guys, just chime in.
about five minutes goes in, it's not stopping.
And the people start standing up and praying against this.
And so I start praying, walking back and forth on the...
Well, because you checked, like, the batteries of your mic, that your mic was on off.
They were doing PA work.
And, like, we couldn't figure it out.
We turned off my mic and it was still going.
So I thought I broke the system.
And I felt bad.
And I was like, oh, no, like, literally the conference is over.
And so walking back and forth on stage, I'm praying, people are praying.
And I look out and I see this.
And then I see some people getting up and walking out.
And I was like, man, the enemy is definitely like pushing hard here.
And I was thinking to myself, hopefully they come back, you know.
But in that moment, I decided I don't care if there's just one person left.
I am not retreating here.
It was the same mindset that I had back in April last year when Lindsay was diagnosed with cancer.
That, I think it was a Tuesday when she was diagnosed.
And that following Sunday, I was scheduled to preach.
And pastor said, you don't have to preach if you don't want to.
And it's like, if I don't, I'm giving ground to the enemy.
And so I went through with that.
And that was the same mindset I had with this.
I was like, I don't care if there's nobody in here.
I have something to say that I feel it came from God and it's going to be said.
And so people are walking out, 10 minutes goes by, complete loud static, nonstop.
And I look out across the room and I see certain individuals that were flagged earlier.
And I don't want to say the flagging of certain people, you know, being there with ill intentions was accurate.
I don't know.
I don't know if they know.
They were just sharing the suspicion with me.
when I look out, I look and I see these individuals and some of them had like sneers on their face.
And I was like, got it.
You know, and it's just kind of maybe double down in the moment.
And around that time, Jeannie, who is the wife of Mike, and they organized the whole thing,
she comes up and she tells me, I just want to let you know that it's not you.
She said the entire resort.
This is a conference center in a resort.
They have restaurants there, hotel rooms, everything.
She said the entire resort is having this happen.
She said that in people's rooms, there's loud static, everything.
She said that a lightning bolt hit the hotel and took out all the speakers in audio.
And so because in the back of the room, the PA guys that they brought in to do this event.
So we had our own audio guys.
they powered down the entire station and it was still going.
So we knew it wasn't us and it was throughout the entire hotel.
So in that moment that I touched Patrick's chest with my microphone,
if you want to talk about symbolic nature of it,
Patrick, the host of this event is holding the authority of that pulpit.
You know, like the authority that pulpit originated with Mike the organizer.
he handed it off to the host who is now bringing in on the speakers.
And the moment the person who is handing the authority of that pulpit from himself to me
and physically touches me, that lightning bolt hits the hotel, takes out the entire system.
And, well, should we go into the clips now?
Well, you know, what was weird about the lightning, though, is that, like, there was no flash.
Like, every time my house has been even near a lightning bolt, you always get the flicker.
You always get like energy surges or like it pulls, energy pulls.
And it's like that was not the case.
Like all the electricity was totally fine.
All that was impacted was the sound, which was just so weird.
Yeah.
Yeah, the thing that's the most necessary for, you know, sermon to be preached.
Right.
Why don't we list some of the other things that went wrong throughout the town and everything?
Because there was other things other than just the sound.
I just can't remember.
Yeah.
I know there's more.
I just don't remember.
this is why you guys are here.
So there was also the water main broke in the street, like right by the hotel.
And so like from that night all the way through the rest of the conference, the water was like basically damage.
Yeah, they could drink it.
They said don't use the water.
You could even shower or brush your teeth, anything.
Like, so that was super crazy.
And Jack, do we have that Facebook post of it?
Yeah.
He sent it to you earlier.
I sent it to your time.
To Slack?
I sent it to a text.
Sorry.
But yeah, so there's a Facebook post about that part of Springfield and Missouri where they actually, they said on the eighth, but it was the seventh that night.
The water went out and it basically contaminated all the water for the whole hotel and for that whole region around it.
Also, the next morning we drove in and the entrance gate to the hotel, like just the arm of the gate was totally blown off.
Yeah.
And they said they had patched it, but it was just the arm.
It wasn't bend.
It's literally like it just had been like fell off.
Ripped off.
Yeah.
Like it's like, Jesus said the gates of hell shall now prevail, not prevail.
And like hell is like, we're going to try.
Right.
And it didn't work.
I'll get the punchline here how this event ended, which is really awesome.
But also amongst all that static, you started hearing emergency broadcasts being played over the system.
So, like, it was, it was this, this wild experience where logically, like, on the inside,
we couldn't have told you that it was a lightning bolt or there's a storm outside.
There was no lights, like you had said, flickering, nothing.
And then on top of that, so now we have this, we have this actual, like, don't worry about,
don't worry about, just forget about the article.
So now we have this situation where Jeannie comes up tells me a lightning bolt strikes,
the hotel at the moment the authority was handed over right the the the storm blows the gate off
and i'm seeing all this i didn't know about the gate but i'm seeing how there's a storm outside
causing all this chaos and then i'm sitting there 15 because this went on for 20 minutes like it was
about 20 minutes of just constant chaos so they're about 15 minutes in and i'm like this it
on the surface, you can say, all the enemies, you know, attacking, the enemy's coming out of
and stuff. It's like, okay, am I exaggerating, you know, all that stuff? But I knew what I was going to be
preaching on. And I was going to be preaching about Christ being our warrior king and using the
example of Mark 4 and 5 to paint that picture of a supernatural storm that Jesus literally had to muzzle.
And so, like, I knew I was going into this talk, this preaching.
where I was going to be talking about the very thing that was unfolding around me.
And so, like, it was not lost on me about, like, where this was all coming from.
What are you going to say, Jack?
I was just going to ask if you wanted to show the video now.
Yeah, sure, why not?
Yeah, because that many people can actually see what was going on.
Yeah, that's actually a good idea.
So this is the sound that was being, you know, broadcast over the speakers and the emergency broadcast system and all that stuff.
So, here you go.
I mean, this is a little later into the, into this sound being broadcast.
People were standing up.
People were praying.
Yeah, you can see people.
There's some empty seats there.
But it was pretty chaotic for a little bit.
There comes genie towards me.
Hands raised.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I, I, I mean, I wonder what these people were thinking to when this is all going on.
Like, you know, like, they're at this event.
And it seems like in the moment, I mean, I was questioning if we'd ever get audio back.
And so I wonder what they were thinking, like, are we going to have to, like, go home now?
And it was substantially much louder.
Like, it was a booming presence of sound that came out of that PA system for 20 minutes.
Yeah.
It was extremely loud.
And so that just goes on for 20 minutes.
And it was just, you got anything?
Because I see you right, you got a lot of things.
I don't know.
I've been journaling the whole time.
For one, I wonder how many people in the room maybe didn't believe in spiritual warfare that now definitely do.
Yeah.
Right.
And I don't think it's, I mean, you're directly confronting.
Anytime you get up and preach or teach, you're directly confronting the principality and powers of the air.
Yes.
It's disrupting.
You know, and so it's not a coincidence that is, that's the very median that it was used against you, too.
You know what I mean?
I think it's interesting that the water was involved as well because it's often a median when it comes.
the spellcasting and witchcraft and things like that.
There's a lot here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm not done yet.
Keep going.
Keep going.
No, actually, I am done.
I would be curious to see if there's anybody who has some high-end audio isolation
equipment.
Because I know you said you heard the emergency broadcast, but I wonder if there's
more there that would be picked up.
That's interesting.
I never really considered that.
I wonder if there was the emergency broadcasting broadcast.
broadcasting that was going on, if you isolated those vocals, if what was being broadcast
was, could be interpreted as a message. And not that, it's like, I'm not the guy that's
going to go in somewhere and with a recorder and say, speak to me and then listen back kind of
thing. But it does make me wonder if, if the principality, the power and principality of the
air would try to send messaging like that. So I've had communications through static. I've had,
back in the day when they used to have actual boom boxes and six CD changer and all that kind of stuff.
I had a nicer one and it was set up so that you could have like you had auto set your stations and things like that and had like a source button.
So like when you turn it on, whenever you were listening to, whether it was a CD or a radio station, that would be what came on.
And during one of my bringing a spiritual attack several nights in a row, it would come on and it would be.
just static, it would be at full volume, which it wasn't designed to do that. When you press
the power button to turn it on, the volume would be set at whatever you had it on, and it would
be playing whatever source that you had selected on this device. But it would come on, full volume 32,
static, and there would often be, I could hear voices in that static. So I've had personal
experience with static itself, something similar to this, like, but more personal. And so I
wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't, if you could isolate it, if there wouldn't be some
form of mockery or, you know, anything like that in there. Yeah. I mean, that's really
interesting. I wonder. I wonder. I'm going to continue to wonder. So we can get to, yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, even if you, because while you're talking about that, Jade, I, I was
thinking about, you know, different things that come out of like Hollywood.
often the idea, the depiction of something evil interrupting comes in the form of static.
You know, what's that movie?
The Ring.
Or Lilith, I call her Lilith, because that's what she is, comes crawling out of the TV.
Isn't the movie the poltergeist to have like the little girl in front of the TV, the old movie?
I always thought that would be a scary movie.
Did not watch that one.
I had a crazy childhood.
I've seen all of them at a young age.
I was like, jeepers.
No.
No, but I mean, that seems like a common thing, right, in these depictions.
And so, and maybe even just the idea of it, like, if you're trying to, like, look into it and understand the logistics of it, I mean, what is static?
It's chaos, you know?
It's unorganized.
Early in paranormal investigations, I don't know if you guys, this is, this date, this shows my age.
But back in the day, people used to use static to try to communicate with the other side a lot.
If you remember those, they have those like old movies.
I can't remember the name of it.
But they had made movies about it where they would try to communicate.
I think his wife had passed away in this movie and he was trying to communicate with her on the other side.
But static was definitely something early on, like a way that they tried to, you know, they would wash it and listen to audio.
And they thought they could hear voices and communicate back and forth using frequency and stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, that's like the whole thing with, what is it?
Is it spirit boxes or the like the FM, whatever?
wherever they flip through all the stations.
It's just static.
And then all of a sudden there's a disembodied voice.
I mean,
at that point that you're making,
Jade is a good point.
Static is something that people have used
to try and communicate regardless.
Yeah.
There's different levels to the idea of conjuring.
And that's definitely something that's been used.
So,
you know,
we're going through this whole experience.
And,
you know,
once the,
they finally kill,
the, I don't know what they, I think she said that the maintenance went up to the roof and was like doing something.
And, you know, probably five minutes later, whatever it was, it got killed and it turns off.
And everybody's like, yeah, you know. And so it takes a few minutes for us to get going. And they even came up and they changed my batteries on my pack just to give me fresh batteries, you know?
And I was like, good call, good call. And then I start up. And then this happened.
Jack, if you want to bring that up?
Sure thing.
I didn't prime you.
Oh, you're ready.
All right, cool, cool.
So, I'm assuming the word didn't get around.
This one.
So they muted it there.
They muted it on stream.
All right.
All right.
We know what this is about, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Spiritual warfare.
Is that what they said?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you guys can hear me or not, I'm talking, okay?
But, yeah, so, I mean, it comes in again, right?
And there's no flash.
There's nothing.
There was no flickers.
It just comes in again.
Just as I, I said, I forget how I phrased I said, I don't know if you guys are aware
or not.
I was going to tell them what happened, you know, that there was a lightning bolt strike that
hit the hotel and took out everywhere and all that stuff.
And then that comes in again.
It's wild.
And so, I just, I don't know if I, I don't know if I, no, it's probably ADHD.
I moved on from that because I think I forgot to continue that thought because I got distracted.
So everybody that was at the conference, at least now knows that kind of the logistics of how that kind of all went.
But at the conference, like I said, I was going to be going into this very thing.
Spiritual warfare and the reality that we do need to lean in on Christ as our warrior.
And it's like, I feel like, and maybe it's just because of the culture that we live.
live in and stuff, but we just kind of come to this, like, I hear even how I say it talk sometimes.
Like, it's very, at times it could be like self-centric in how this is handled, right?
And it's like what I felt like God said to me later in the week where, you know, it's why do
people like this?
It's like, because I brought you here.
It's about me, not you.
I did this.
And it's like the same thing when it comes to spiritual warfare, we don't want to get in a
habit of leaning in on our own abilities to punch a prayer with power or say the right words.
It's literally has nothing to do with you outside of being a willing vessel for King Jesus,
right?
That's right.
And so it's like, I'm going into this conversation to talk about this.
And literally, I'm going to be talking about Mark 4 where, you know, Jesus spent the entire day preaching at the lake shore on
the other side of the Sea of Galilee.
And he's going through parable after parable after parable.
And then it says that it just, it seems rather abrupt if you're reading it for just as
reading it.
He spends an entire day.
Like, Derek, you've preached.
You spend, say you spend a day preaching.
It's a long time.
You're tired.
Oh, yeah.
You kind of want to sit back, maybe eat a fish or two, some loaves of bread.
Multiply them, yeah.
Yeah, multiple.
Some light work, you know, not light work, but light turn work.
And, you know, just something easy.
You know, let's just multiply this and call it a day.
But he doesn't do that.
He gets in a boat.
It says he got in a boat with his disciples and sets sail the other side.
And it also said that others got in the boat and followed them.
So, like, what is about to unfold in Chapter 4 has witnesses outside of the disciples.
And what we see unfold is this crazy storm that comes through.
And, like, I was curious when I was reading this.
Wow, because what I preached about is these are things that I started like pondering over the last year or so.
I often really kind of zero in on like logistics of how scripture is written, what was actually going on.
And I feel like God kind of shows me certain things.
So I looked up and at least four of the disciples were fishermen who actually fished the sea of Galilee for their profession.
So, like, they were extremely familiar with the sea, how it operates, the storms that come through, and all the disciples, we don't know how many were in the boat, but all the disciples that were in the boat were so terrified that they thought they were going to die.
Yeah.
And go ahead.
No, I mean, and it's more like a lake than a sea.
Yeah.
Like, a sea is like a not the right real terminology for the size of what it is.
The sea lake.
The sea lake, yeah.
I mean, it's a very smaller body of water.
So like a big disrupting storm in a tiny bottle.
Oh my gosh.
Body.
Body of water.
I want to say bottle of water.
That's why.
So small.
I know.
It's so small.
But like it's just doesn't make.
It doesn't make sense that it would be so volatile in such a small body of water.
They would be scared of what was happening.
Yeah.
But yet it shows that they were terrified.
Yeah.
It literally says they were terrified.
So they wake up Jesus.
And what I found.
interesting is that Jesus rebukes the storm. When you look into the Greek word, I can't recall
it. Even if I could, I wouldn't be able to pronounce it right. But it starts with an S. I think
it ends with an A. There's a P in there somewhere. Wait to silence? Huh? Silence? Yeah.
Okay. Let me look at that up. You'll find it. But the root word of it means muzzled.
So like Jesus muzzled a storm. So like my assumption of this being a not particularly
not normal storm that these men were so scared that they wake up Jesus. So I'm already thinking
supernatural storm. This is something different about this. And then Jesus wakes up and he
muzzled the storm as if the storm had a mouth to muzzle, as if the storm had something to shut up.
And that same word that Jesus used there is also used in Mark chapter 1, verse 25,
when he's speaking to a demon-possessed man, the demon,
he muzzled the demon.
So we see an example of Jesus musling a demon earlier,
and then he muzzles the storm.
And so it paints this picture of this was a supernatural storm.
It was not normal.
Jesus did not normal things to shut it down,
and he did it immediately to the point that the disciples were terrified of the storm,
and their fear didn't go away.
it says then they shifted their fear.
Now they're terrified of Jesus.
They were terrified and they said,
who is this man that even the waves or the winds listen to him?
And so right there, it's like,
they didn't even have a full picture as to who Christ was
and what his abilities were,
and they spent all this time with him.
So, like, if you think about being in the presence of God
and how magnificent that is, right?
the disciples spent all this time with Jesus Christ,
and yet he never ceased to amaze them with how far he can take things.
Just when they thought they experienced all Christ,
just when they thought that they're like, yeah, dude, he heals everybody.
Dude, cast out demons, they listen to him.
You know, I saw him walk on water, you know?
They're just like, he just leveled up again.
And I'm terrified of it because whatever is going on here, I don't understand, you know?
And so, like, he sets course onto.
over the sea, they continue going forward.
And so, like, if you're thinking supernaturally, what's on the other side?
So there's a lot of demonic entities on the other side.
He's going into the area of Bashan.
It's pagan territory.
There's a lot of pagan practices going on.
It's a stronghold of the enemy because this area is literally right in the shadows of Mount Hermann.
It's right there.
And so, like, it's all this activity that he's marching towards.
And it's like, as he's coming to the enemy,
Remember, he was, I'm just talking, is that all right?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, awesome.
So he spends the entire day preaching, right?
And if you think of a war mindset, militaristic, he's beating that drum.
He's getting the troops ready.
He's, we're preparing for war today.
And once he prepares for war, we're going to war.
And when he's not going to war, the attack comes.
I don't think the principalities had any.
Maybe they did.
Maybe they did.
But maybe not.
I'm not so sure that the goal was to take Jesus out at sea.
I don't think that that was something that was even a consideration almost.
But if you think about it, he's sleeping.
Let's get them to turn the boat around.
But instead of turning the boat around, they wake him up.
He mussels a storm.
They continue marching forward towards enemy territory.
He gets to the other side, gets off the boat,
and encounters this whole scene of Legion.
and I could go into like all of it.
Should I not?
You can.
I just wanted to make a point real quick about the word.
So you had said,
you know,
you said that you wouldn't be able to pronounce it.
I can't pronounce it very well either.
Obviously, C-O-O-Po?
Sure.
Something like that.
Sounds good.
It just means to, you know,
it means silence, quiet,
hush, all this stuff, right?
So I find it interesting, right?
Like if all it was, if there wasn't anything going on other than just a bad storm, wouldn't Jesus say, stop, you know, don't do this?
You know, you're not going to, just whatever, stop basically.
It wouldn't be silence, right?
So the point of the static that Jade made, that there's communication through static, it almost feels like there was elemental spirit screaming at that moment.
And silence was the thing because it's involuntary silence.
It's involuntarily being shut up.
And so I thought I was like, you're saying,
you're literally telling these things to shut up.
You can't talk anymore.
You have no power.
And that's it.
We're crossing.
Because he's going into,
he's going into, you know, warfare already on this sea or lake.
Lake sea, pond, something like that.
Yeah.
And then he goes into more warfare on the other side.
So it's like they're trying to yell at him so much
and cause the chaos in his mind.
I think that's like,
To me, that's what I was getting from it.
Yeah.
So I just took that time to look up this.
It's another word I can't pronounce.
It's pefimoso.
Pefimoso.
And that is the root word, I think it's the root word is,
Femio, which is the translation of the muzzle.
So like at which Femio, I don't know from it.
saying it right.
Today I am.
Fumio is what is also
used over in Mark
125.
But anyways, like, so
that whole exchange happens on the other side
of the shore where
he... But I love the correlation because like
why does he have to muzzle
the demon? Because he's going to
blow up Jesus spot. Because
the demons know who he is. Yeah.
Right? And so that's why he's like, shut up.
You can't talk about me right now, basically.
Yeah.
he's commanding it to shut up.
So the storm, in a sense, is almost the same thing.
They're going after the Legion of Demons, and they're like, Jesus, it's not time yet.
And so that's like what is coming over the waters is them freaking out.
And he's just like, shut up.
I think there's definitely a correlation between Legion and the storm.
And I don't know if you guys are saying this or not, but the story here, if it's good, I am.
The fact that what happened to you at this conference with the water and with the disruption, with the lightning,
the correlation, I don't believe in coincidence
when it comes to this kind of stuff.
And the fact that, am I hearing you right,
that you were going to teach you on this very topic there?
Yeah, I did.
That was his message.
What did you do you know?
Dude, I'm telling you,
you experienced Legion at your conference.
I mean, you can't,
Jesus knew where he was going when he was crossing the water.
First of all, he's tired, okay?
He's not going to hop in a boat and go across the water without a purpose.
He knows what he's going to do when he gets the other side, right?
And so I feel like Legion was sent as,
sort of like a precursor, right, to say, hey, stop, you know, especially for those with him,
because they know Jesus ain't going to stop, right?
Yeah.
But to create enough fear and enough confusion and enough whatever to get them turn a bone around.
But like you said, they woke up Jesus instead.
And Jesus is like, well, he kind of rebuked him.
Like, man, I was taking an app.
Well, can you guys handle this?
Like, come on.
Now you're doing long enough.
He's like, right?
A little bit of faith.
I've heard this.
I've heard this for all of eternity.
Did I not just say this today?
But yeah, I think that what you.
you encountered is very much what, dude, and we're in a different age, right? We have technology.
We have, so there's different means in which the enemy can do the same thing now.
Yeah. But I think that what you experienced, there's, I'm telling you, man, this story in the
word of God and what you experienced there is one and the same, in my opinion.
No, and that's why I felt like, I felt like it was, because like, all right, so I spent probably,
I started really kind of honing in on what I was going to be talking about about two weeks in.
And then probably about three days before I nailed it and kind of put a stamp on it and I was done prepping.
But in that period of time, like, it's not like I have a magic bubble around me where I'm invisible to the enemy.
They're very aware of what I'm going to be preaching on, you know.
And so it's like it was not lost on me whatsoever.
And that whole scene, like, of our warrior king handling business, like, you could, if you don't know the whole story, you could say, yeah, but he's just going to the other side. This happened and he just kept on going. No, no, no. He beat the drum all day, marched across the sea or lake or pond, whatever. Handled, like, he gets, he just got off the boat and this whole scene unfolds of Legion. He handles business. He handles business.
And then he gets back in the boat
and goes to the other side.
He was literally on mission
to do that specific thing.
He knew what he was going to do.
Well, in the other telling
is in Luke, right?
Matthew, I think.
Matthew?
Yeah, where there's two guys.
Yeah.
And the first demon possessed man
actually just goes running away.
He goes, he's like, oh, crap,
he's just told me to shut up, I got to run.
So, I mean, like, it really fits,
like the fullness of the story.
Yeah.
Quickly.
Not Herman.
We must go back to the gates of hell.
And then he's like, oh, I'm going to go there too.
I'll be there shortly.
Yeah, he's like, and I'm just going to tell you.
So, yeah, I mean, that whole thing happens, and he goes back to the side.
And so, like, what we see unfold just in that talk alone, right?
And I don't remember totally, you know, what, like, if any other speakers had issues.
One other speaker had issues where somebody stood up and started yelling and they escorted that person out.
But for the most part, I think it was pretty civil.
Well, Jack, didn't you do some audio for Vicky Joy?
Yeah, that was not for that conference, but for the show.
I got you.
Memo crossed.
Memo crossed.
My bad, yeah.
But what's really cool is that, like, sometimes you go through something in life and you look back on it and you're like, man, I wish I would have handled that a little differently.
I didn't handle it wrong, but I wish it would have a little differently.
I don't have that feeling at all with this.
It feels really good to go into a situation knowing that the Holy Spirit is preparing you for some kind of warfare.
You get tipped off that that warfare has arrived.
Then the attack comes.
Then the attack ceases.
You still carry out mission.
The rest of the week carries out on mission.
And then at the end of that, so Sunday morning,
Larry preaches and, you know, he gives a freaking amazing message.
It was just fire.
And then we went and did baptisms, and we did 57 baptisms.
57 baptisms.
And so forget what I had to say.
Forget all that.
If the, and I don't think this was a case, but let's just put it in this context.
Imagine if the PA system is.
destroyed. And they can't turn it back on without it doing that. I don't know what happens at the
conference. Do we just yell to the audience? I mean, I would suggest that. I think that's what we
would have done. But could it be that the attempt was to stop what was happening that entire weekend,
not just what I was going to say, but the entire weekend because of what was going to be
coming through on the back end. Yeah. 57, man. Yes. Like, I was like, they just kept coming.
I was just like, next,
next,
not like that.
I mean,
we really actually,
it wasn't like that.
But that's what I felt like.
It was just like a,
it was a belt line,
like a factory line.
It was just like,
it was like a never-ending line.
I mean,
the conference had 450 maxed out tickets, right?
So like 57 of the 450 went into baptism.
That's 57 people that are just changed,
you know?
Forever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's funny because I wrote this down in the very beginning.
and it says, and I hadn't heard this story.
I've never heard this story before.
Yeah.
And I said, when there is warfare, there's a desire of the Lord to save, heal, and set free and eradicate the darkness.
Right there, man.
Right there.
Oh, bro, what about the contaminated water, though?
Like, baptism is, like, the decontamination of yourself in the water.
Wow.
It's an inversion of what a baptism is.
That's right.
Dude.
It's not a mistake that the enemy uses water as a median.
because everything that the enemy does,
first of all, he has no authority or no power, right?
And he likes to mock and pervert the things that God ordains
and sets in place.
So it's not a mistake that in spellcasting and witchcraft
they use waters or median, right?
And so for you to have 57 baptisms,
the Lord knew what was going on.
Legion knew it too.
Yeah.
One of them was a deliverance.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
We had the deliverance right on the baptism.
Yeah.
I mean, so there's two.
Two, yeah.
Possibly three, but I'll stick with the two.
So the one that you guys are talking about, I think, is, and I'm not blasting anybody's names or anything out,
but there was a woman there who she goes through like this confession essentially.
And it was interesting because I was there with Jamie.
So it was the four of us, me, pounders, Jamie Walden, and Raglan doing the baptisms.
and I forget what she said,
but I remember it kind of like,
just my ear kind of turned a little bit, you know,
because like I'm really big when it comes to baptism.
It's like, are you, Romans 10-9?
Are you confessing with your mouth and believing in your heart, right?
And he asked her a question and the way she answered it.
I was like, that's not really the answer.
Yeah, like it was something about like, you know, Jesus.
like the name of Jesus and she said, my God or something like that.
It wasn't a reply with the name of Jesus.
It wasn't a confession of faith.
Yeah, yeah.
And so he walked, like, kind of took a step towards her and he's like, we're going to take
our time here and we're going to really make sure you understand what's going on.
And he started walking her through things.
And then it turned into like this confession.
And I don't know who said it.
I think somebody said, do you want to be set free today?
And she's like, yes.
And she's crying.
Her husband's there.
And like, we start praying over her.
She is, I don't want to exaggerate, you know, but she was over the top loud and like really emotional, crying.
And there was a deliverance that happened there.
I'll say it that way.
I don't want to go down the exorcism route because I don't know.
But I know she was delivered that day.
and she confessed Christ.
And after her and her husband were baptized together,
it was like literally she came out of that water new.
Like it was, it was, it was, it was visibly,
there was a change in her persona.
Yeah.
And, and I could feel it, you know.
Now, speaking of feeling,
I think it was towards the beginning of the baptisms.
There was a woman that came in to be baptized.
I don't know what this was about.
I don't know.
I just be up front and honest.
I don't understand it to this moment.
Because at first when it happened,
I thought it was just me.
I believe it was all four of us,
essentially, had our hand on her shoulder
or something like that.
She was going down.
And I remember I was,
I forget who was in front of me,
maybe pounders,
and then it was me,
and then raglan and Walden on the other side,
but I was behind.
And so I have my hand here.
I'm just kind of going down.
And when I go down and I bring her up, you know, I'm expecting to push her a little bit up out of the water.
And I didn't get a chance to push her out of the water.
Her back is on my hand.
And as I'm getting ready to push, I find myself doing this because she's already out of my hand.
And she shot up out of the water.
It almost flipped.
Yeah.
And I was like, I was like, easy guys.
You know, like, I know we're all excited about baptisms, but we don't even be throwing to people when they're freshly new.
in Christ, scare him away
from the gospel. But as
soon as I said that, or as soon
as I started thinking that, I forget who
said it, maybe ragling, but
somebody was like, dude, she just shot out of the water.
And I was like, wait, you did push her?
Like, everybody's on the same page
were like, she just kind of jumped out of the water
on her own from laying backwards. Jack and I
were right at the edge of the pool and we watched it.
Like, she literally was like a fish, like, shoot.
Like, as you see a fish jump, like, it's almost like
that. It was just like right out of the water.
Yeah. And I was like, wowsers.
you know? So I was like, this is going to get good.
So, but yeah, I mean, 57 baptisms was absolutely awesome.
And I felt like going back home, you know, because I analyze everything.
And I'm constantly analyzing things.
I didn't have one moment going back home where I was like, man, I wish I would have.
You know, it was like, I felt like mission accomplished, you know.
Yeah.
And across the sea and you're already going back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so we went back and we for hours and hours and hours until we got home.
We drove and drove.
But it was just, it was really a great experience all around.
The end of the event, the end of the conference, made everything worthwhile.
And I'm glad I got to have the privilege to be part of it, but also get to see God work
firsthand in the moment.
You know?
Because like, honestly, like, we talk about this stuff all the time.
And so sometimes when I'm by myself, I think to myself, am I just like going over the
top here?
Am I just, I don't know, am I getting carried away with my views on how supernatural our
existence is?
And then I get to see this unfold in real time.
And I'm on stage in the middle of this, this attachment.
attack and I'm like, I literally know what I'm about to talk about. And this fits hand and glove.
And it just made me feel like I was being tested at a moment. Do you actually believe what you're
about to preach? You know? And I was just like, oh yes, I do. Oh, yes, I do. Especially now.
You know, and it just for me, it made me double down and lean in more. And to the point that
I think maybe like once or twice I looked at my notes. Yeah. I just kind of went. It was the
most anointed man like i i don't i said to derrick and i think larry and a few other people was like that was
the most anointed that you have ever been on stage and it was so it was so powerful like it was so
cool because it was like that you were the you were the the gunshot in the race to start start off the
the night of like massive bangers because it was you and then larry and then jamie yeah
well jami ended up not being on that night but yeah it was an excellent yeah so like it started it started it started
where the weekend was going to be going.
And, yeah, so...
Yeah.
I don't know.
What do you guys think?
I mean, did I cover it all?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, the only weird thing,
Jack and I went to lunch the next day,
and we were walking out to the car.
Yeah.
And there was a whole, like, empty spot.
And then there's, like, a little grass,
you know, like little side edging that they have
to break up the parking spots.
There was a black crow just, like, in the grass.
And it was, like, pretending.
like it was eating, I look like, but not eating.
You were being watched. We were being watched.
And I felt the same way.
Because it was really weird. I've always seen them like up.
You know, like if they're like, you know, normally doing their thing.
They're like up on power lines or they're on post.
It was like right next to as close as it as it could get to our car, but in grass,
standing in the grass.
And it was just like pretending to eat and kind of like looking like this.
Down and up. Down and up.
There was a crow.
There was no fire.
There was a crow.
I started praying.
I started praying.
Oh, yeah.
it right away and stuff, but like, I just wondered, like, maybe there's a boundary that was set that maybe that's as far as they could even go. I don't know.
It was just, it was a very interesting because I've never seen a natural crow act that way.
Right.
Yeah.
Anytime you see them not engaged in their normal self-preservation, you know, fight or flat responses.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You know that it's not.
Yeah, because I walked closer to it and it just kept doing the same thing.
It was doing.
It should have flown away.
Absolutely.
So let me ask you on the crow topic, but changing topic.
at the same time. But I'll come back to the topic. Just a thought. I saw this on Instagram.
And I thought it was a good idea until now we're talking about crows. Do I want to be inviting
crows onto my property? Do you know where I'm going with this, Jack? No. Oh. This guy has a
bunch of chickens. And to keep the hawks from eating his chickens, he started feeding crows so that he
trained the crows to expect him to feed them at a certain location near his chickens.
And so they're always around. And then he caught on film because crows go after hawks, like they're
enemies to the point that like I suggest that people would get black chickens, at least some black chickens.
So the hawks don't, they look at the black chicken. They think crow. But he filmed these crows going
after the hawk and attacking the hawk and keeping the hawk away. And he's like, yeah, they're doing their
job, you know? And I was like, oh, I want to do that? But do I want to do that? Do I want to have crows coming?
I mean, there's a natural aspect to all these things.
Not all pros are going to be under the influence or the possession of someone conjuring, you know, to use the sight.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I'm conjuring and to protect my chickens.
Yeah.
If you see one hanging around and these the other guys go and attack this crow and the other one's like looking in your window, I would shoot that one.
Yeah, probably.
And then it turns into somebody like, dang it.
I can explain this.
So my dad actually knew a pastor and they were dealing with a lady who was a witch within the church.
And then he goes to this pastor.
He's like, hey, have you heard of this lady?
like we're having weird issues with her and he goes, she was in my house.
She sat down on the couch.
I went to the kitchen.
I was going to get her a cup of tea.
I come back out and there's a crow just stand like perched up on the couch and it flew out the window.
Jeez.
And I'm like, I don't know if it's like transformational or if it's like you're saying they can possess a crow or a raven or whatever.
There's a couple different.
This is a much deeper conversation.
I don't know you guys want to have it on this live, but there's a whole history.
There's a whole lore here.
And there's actual documented usages for this.
Some of them are shapeshifters.
Some of them use them just for sight, you know, to track and to watch.
They're like, they're familiars.
And there's a whole like, this goes all the way back to the 1800s.
It's documented.
Who are where sorcerers, warlocks, what do you want to call them druids?
I call them druids because it's the source material and that they use is druidic.
But they would use animals as a form of, they were called familiars then.
But they would use them to watch people.
and people knew if they saw this certain animal.
In the 1800s in Europe, it was a white wolfhound-type dog with a long snout.
But it's recorded.
I mean, it's documented that they use them both as a form of more than Native American.
You know, they use them as a transformational thing.
Like, they could actually take the form.
And other documents have it as a way to cite.
You know, they use their eyes, their flight, whatever.
I'm so sorry.
They use their eyes and their flight to, you know, to move travel.
to watch, to see what you're doing,
you know, report back to the powers that be.
So, okay, so I wasn't crazy because, like,
I'm like, looking at Jack and I'm like,
it feels really weird and like we should pray about it before we leave.
Yeah, we did.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Throw a rock at it, kick it.
I mean, it's an agent of darkness, man, on whatever.
Yeah.
That's fair.
Should have shot.
It's not a protected species.
It's not like it was unicorn rolled up.
I mean, it's a pro.
You know, no one's going to care about a dead crow.
That's true.
Can you imagine if you, everyone.
Yeah.
It's going on a unicorn talk.
I have to carry slingshots with you guys.
Hey!
Yeah, we tend to have them in the back pockets.
Yeah.
So, all this stuff we're talking about,
physical warfare manifesting in the physical, in the natural.
There's a precedent.
Like, I've never had that happen on this level, right?
But it's happened.
You know, he mentioned about,
when he came in here, he's like, just so you know, things go bad.
And it's like all of a sudden we're like, hey, we have to reboot the computer.
Great. Thanks.
You just delayed the show 15 minutes, man.
But I mean, I remember when we were sitting here years ago,
before you were here, it was just Jack, I think.
I don't know if Jack was here.
I wasn't here for this one.
Yeah, so it was Joel, I think Justin from Critters of the Corn,
and I think somebody else was here too.
And so, like, we're talking about a topic because Joel had called me from Free the Rapids,
Joel Thomas.
he had called me and said
every time he talks about a particular topic
the people on the other end of the show hosting it
because he didn't have his own show at the time
have tech issues
the whole thing shuts down. I was like
I hear you bro
it sounds like a good story
come on down in the studio, we'll test it
because I was like just do it in person
come down to the studio we'll talk about this topic
in studio so it gets recorded
no interruptions.
Dude fried my mixer
Yes.
Yes.
That's funny.
I mean, it's not funny.
Well, it wasn't at the time.
Now it's funny.
Like, and it wasn't him that fried it.
But like, we have that mixer at the office.
It's like just sitting there as like a reminder.
A reminder, you know.
And so I'm never going to throw that away.
That's kind of like on the level of the computer I built the show on for the first five or six years.
Like I had to rebuild it so many times.
The monitor, like the glass part of it was fun.
falling off of it. I'm just like, I can still hear you. I'll never throw that thing away because
the memories that I have from it. It's not operable. But so like he comes down, does that and he
fries the mixer. That whole situation happens and unfolds. But even before that and after that,
we've had situations happen. I remember there was a, well, one, there was an episode that I was
talking to a guy. And I think I'd not, I called it knock, knock, knock or something. This is a long time
ago. And I forget the details of the story. I just remember him talking about like a specific
specific entity or something that like he knows when it's there because it knocks three times.
Just as he says that, you hear this like on a wooden table. And I didn't do it. And I was like,
oh, dude. Yeah. So it sounded like that. And I said something like that. And he's like what?
I'm like, you didn't knock? And he's like, no, what? He didn't hear it. And so like he doesn't hear it
on his end. I hear it on my end, but through the headphones, like, it came from his end.
And so, again, interference with electronics where there was an interception where he didn't hear.
So if logistics comes into play here, like, it's almost like if it was an actual telephone line,
like it inserted mid-telephone line to get to me where he didn't actually hear.
He somehow have the ability to manifest specifically to who they want to, when they want to,
even when you're with somebody.
How many stories have you heard where these two people are together, this person saw, this person,
didn't. This person heard it. This person
didn't. I don't know. It's just something they're able to do
for some reason. Yeah. So there was another
one where
back in the day, before
I had any type of membership platform that I have now,
I had Patreon for a brief period of time. And I didn't know what I was doing.
I didn't know what to do. So I think I actually had
a cell phone on a tribut.
where I was recording live on a private feed that I put on Patreon for people to be able to watch
me do my interviews that are going to be broadcast later, be able to watch it live. And I don't
think people liked it very much. But those who were there and watching on this one interview,
this guy's talking about he had a roommate and I think he said something about like his roommate
brought something into the apartment and how the apartment was just completely like demonically
haunted. And he's getting ready to describe me. I might have even asked him like what it looked
like because he said it manifested in the hallway in front of him. Like he saw this thing. And so he's
getting ready to describe it and all of a sudden, line goes dead. And I'm like, he's gone. So they see it
live happen, right? They see that he's gone. So it takes probably about, I don't know, five, 10,
15 minutes to reestablish a connection. And he gets on and he starts talking about what he saw.
Like immediately, almost like as if this connection never happened. It was very quick how he jumped
right back into the story about what he saw. And you hear this audio come over the line where
he's talking, but it's another voice. And to this day, I think, and I know it doesn't make sense,
but it feels like it says
get Tori
but everybody keeps saying
or kept saying to me
no that sounds like get Tony
and I was like no it's Tori
yeah
yeah I suppose
I haven't listened to it in a while
but maybe I was a little nervous to admit it
I don't know but I just remember it to me
it sounded like Tori
and so like we have another
electronic interference
when you're zeroing in on a specific detail of the enemy
that maybe the enemy doesn't want exposed, right?
Yeah.
There was...
Let me look at my notes here.
There was...
Okay, so I think the last one I had here,
which I don't remember all the details of.
I don't know if you do, Jack,
I think you edited that video with the...
It was a remote interview I did with Vicki Joy Anderson.
Yeah, I actually can bring that one up.
Oh, you do?
Yeah, I can bring that one up.
Oh, wow.
If you guys want to...
See how to...
Remindice a little bit.
here. Lade it up for him. Oh, you are so good. Good job. Yeah. Okay. Oh, that's a terrible.
Whoa. I'm so sorry. You should have kept that. That was fun. I'm sorry, everybody.
So, yeah, this was, man, how long ago was this? Over a year ago at this point, it was June of last year.
And I remember listening to this, not hearing the voice or anything that came through the audio.
The members heard her, right? Is that what it was?
The members heard it.
So we,
I don't think this,
no,
this wasn't a members.
This was a public episode.
Okay.
So they were,
they had so many people
were commenting in the,
in the comments with the timestamps and like,
you know,
did anybody else hear this?
And we were,
we had no clue because in pre-production,
you know,
there's nothing that you heard on the line,
you know,
and even for me in post-production,
nothing we heard on the line,
right?
Yeah, in the moment,
I don't think I heard anything.
Yeah.
Make sure I have audio on my headphones over here.
Yeah,
yeah, you'll have audio.
Okay.
But yeah,
so that's the back.
story. We didn't hear anything. And then, you know, everybody else heard it. So this is, this is the
little audio blip. If I can get there right. There we go. The laws of the United States government.
So if these entities are extracting brain data and they're sharing that brain data to
Lindsay Graham, who we all know is a freaking nefarious person. I've never met anybody in this world.
Pause for a second.
Coming in on that, I'm like, man, I got a weird show.
Coming in on that clip, I'm like, if anybody just heard that for the first time, they just tuned into this live, like, oh, let me check this out.
Yeah, I'm weird.
I think I'm sane, but definitely have some different takes.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
No, you're going to.
Who enjoys the presence of Lindsay Graham.
So let's just say Lindsey Graham.
But these entities are extracting data.
So Lindsay Graham can extract the data.
And I'm just using that.
It just came to my head.
He's no longer with us.
Put any deplorable politician in that place.
But, you know, Lindsey Graham, Hillary Clinton, they can't extract the data.
But these entities can.
And because you don't believe that these entities exist,
because you don't believe that the other realm exists.
don't believe that these entities are actually operating and warring for your soul in the other
realm continually 24-7.
Because you don't believe you're a supernatural being living a spiritual existence, you will never
come to the conclusion that entities are extracting your brain data going around the checkbox
loophole and giving it to nefarious people in this realm.
Right there.
Do you believe me now?
Because you don't believe they exist.
Oh, we accessed.
I would love to isolate that audio
We did actually
I just don't think Jack has it available right now
I remember we did isolate it at some point
and it was on
I believe if I remember correctly
it was on her line
but we had her on video
and we were able to show she wasn't talking
but it came through on her channel
but she wasn't talking
so yeah
I don't know
I'm telling you technology
Welcome to the confessions.
Nice, Jade.
Yeah, so that was a weird one.
Yeah, it totally was.
But then we got Derek here, and he's just weird in general, so it is what it is.
Yeah, I usually go around my anointing oil and just pray over stuff.
Yeah, you splash it everywhere.
Yeah.
It's always sent it, too, so I know he's been anointing.
It's like, yep, Derek's been at work again.
Derek's been putting the shield back up.
Thanks, Derek.
No problem.
Almost done.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah, but we're not like, I.
I mean, the only other thing I was thinking of was, you know, the timing of that, that tap up,
that hug and how, like, we're not, you know, we're not rookies when it comes to the proper timing
of a specific thing happening, you know, right when, right when the podium's handed over,
right when that buttons clicked, and something happens.
Like, like, how often do I say these, the word logistics, right, when I talk about this stuff,
the logistics of warfare, the logistics of the enemy, the logistics of how things are
operating. Like, everything is intentional. You may not understand the intentionality behind it. I often
don't, but there is strategy and logistics to warfare. And this, this, this dark kingdom understands it.
They operate within it. They, they designed their own logistical war plan. And so it's not lost on
me, like Jack had said, that the timing was impeccable, impeccable. For it not to be our PA system,
entire hotel, the moment that everybody in the room apparently heard my chest bump with his,
like that's not, like Jade said earlier, that's not a coincidence.
I don't believe in coincidences either, Jay.
Nope.
You and me are the same, man.
So, yeah, guys, I listen, that's what I wanted to share with everybody.
I wanted to share with you last week, but we were trying to make sure we had at least something
to show you as far as what actually happened.
I would say that week was a success clearly, and I believe that I learned through the process
and I'll be able to carry that into new situations.
We came back invigorated, renewed, and ready to go on to new chapters, which we'll
talk about another time on some things that we're talking about doing.
but it's like
you know
I use the example
when it came to
last year with Lindsay
it
if
if like the enemy is thinking
like I don't know what the answer I don't know
I don't know what the thoughts are
but like I'm not stopping
I'm not slowing down
I'm going to keep going
and that's going to be till
I'm no longer breathing
and so in that
process, I can only imagine the thing that's going to happen is I'm going to get more and more
righteously anger, angry, and more and more adamant and cemented in the idea of like, I'm going
to fight always. And I'm going to fight for other people. And anywhere I go that I feel God telling me
to do something, I'm just going to do it. I'm not going to be like, oh, this is weird. I don't,
know if I want to do it here. Man, I got to throw that process.
out the window. Our pastor used an example. Was it our pastor? No, I think it was a, I think it was
somebody that was preaching at the church. They, I can't remember a story. I'm sorry,
we brought this up. It was something to do with like, they felt so strongly that God was
telling them to do something. And they're like, I can't do that. That's going to embarrass me.
I can't do that. Not here. And ultimately, they submitted and they did it anyways. And they were
glad they did, right? And that's kind of like the mindset I'm coming in with. Like, after this event,
I'm just like, you know what? I'm not really interested in my own pride ego. Let's just,
everywhere we can, expose the enemy's playbook. Yeah. And be consciously walking alongside Christ
and trying to follow his example on how we do this. And so that's where I'm at with things.
What do you guys got? No, it's good. I think there's such a fine line to where, like, you know,
your rights and privileges as a son of God,
right, as a son of Jesus Christ, as a,
as a believer, but also
like not to be too boisterous or too
proud to kind of like,
out of his will pushback, because I think some people
like get too excited in
going to battle
where they're not called to be.
Commissioning. And commissioning, yeah, because
you know, like, obviously
the Lord has like brought you specifically
from 10 years, so from
a FaceTime with Wes all the way to
where you are now, you know,
purposefully, right, to do what the Lord has deemed you, like he's valued you and said,
this is your commission right now. Right. And so wherever we go, we know that the Lord is going
to go before us because this is where he's placed us. Yeah. Some people, I think, get too excited
and they go in and they think they're going to go start throwing punches on the enemy and they're
not prepared for the battle. That's really at hand. Yeah. So I just a warning because it's, it's, we do have
all authority through Christ, but it's also very, we have to be very mindful to be in his will every
day. Yeah. So it's like my most important mission is salvation's to people, right, to share the
gospel with people. And then when the enemy throws a punch, I'm ready to throw a punch back. Yeah.
I was getting ready to say the same thing. The way the Lord conducts warfare, his end goal is
always going to what I wrote down here. It's going to be to save, to heal, to set free and eradicate the
darkness, often in the minds and hearts of people, right? And so when we're engaged,
in spiritual warfare, it's not something that you should take lightly and you should understand
that you're doing it as an ambassador of someone else. And so I don't want to insert my audiologies,
my thought processes, my belief systems in on this. I want to be in tune with him so that I know
how to engage in this situation because as much as my flesh would want to handle it a different
way, especially because often this stuff is designed. The Bible says that he forms weapons
against us. So he'll study us and he'll form something specific. But those weapons are typically
not about us. They're about the person we're supposed to engage with, the person we're supposed
to share the gospel with, someone who's watching us, maybe someone in our own family, our children,
our wife, to watch how we handle the situation. So it's like we have to understand that ultimately
the end goal for God is always going to be light, love, salvation, freedom, you know what I mean?
Healing, you know, the fruit of the spirit. So the fruit of that spirit, you know,
that's got to be our end goal is that we get to that or that we show that even in warfare.
Now there's times we see David and first Samuel 30, I think it's 30, where he comes home
from war and finds his wife and his children kidnapped, right?
And his men are all wanting to stone him and all that.
And he was being obedient and was at war doing what I wanted him to do.
And he showed up and found that, you know, and that prayer that he pray was like, it wasn't,
hey, God is my family alive.
It wasn't, hey, what was me?
Hey, it wasn't any of those things.
it was simply, can I go?
It wasn't, hey, or my, he didn't know whether he'd find him alive or dead.
He sought the will of God.
Yes.
That's wild.
And it was like, but here's the thought about it too is that when God gives you permission, go to work.
Dude.
David's thought process was like, he was like, listen, Lord, can I go?
As he's sharpening his blade.
That's exactly right.
He's not worried about his men going to stone him.
He's not worried about, you know what, my wife and children may actually be
dead. God, can I go? Because if I can go, I'm gonna, you know, I get to do what I want to do.
You know what I mean? Like God is, like he's before God saying, look, you know I'm preparing.
I'm ready to cook. Just give me the green light and I'll cook. There's so many, there's so many
times like I ask that. I'm like, God, can I go? And he's like, no. I'm like, oh, can I do? Can I say?
Can I go? And most of the time it's no, I've got another plan. I mean, you know, I've got, most of time it has
souls tied to it. I can't do what I want to do or say what I want to say. You just brought us something
and you brought up to similarly, and I wrote down the word timing. And like, we, we don't understand
the timing that God has. And I've been contemplating that as well recently where it's like, why did it,
why, why did it take till I think I was 31 when I started all this? Why 30, like, why 31? Why not when I was
21. Why not right out the gate when I got married at 21? Why not when I was, you know, at the
school preparing for ministry? Why not just come right out of the gate, you know? And the idea of
my timing is perfect, you know, and I felt like, and I'm not going to share this publicly, but I just
felt like God started showing me things that I had to go through before I got to the point that he
wanted to use me. Like, like, it was like, I needed you to go through these things in preparation for
this. And like, even with my wife, you know, like, she suffered greatly with me for the, for a period
of time of my marriage. And, um, even beyond my, my absolute rebellion in my marriage, like,
she suffered greatly just dealing with a idiot. Like, I was, I was just immature. I was a hot head,
very short-fused. And like, in that moment, like, I just, I just, she never said this as my words,
not hers, but I always feel like God is just like looking at her and was just like, I promise you,
if you can suffer well through this, it's going to get really good.
I'll get them lined out.
Just hang on.
Yeah, but that's the thing, though.
It's like God's timing, right?
And so we often give up before the timing has come.
And so we're going through life and it's hard.
And we're like, everything's going wrong.
And in the naturally, you have every right to pull the plug on certain things.
Like, she could have pulled a plug on marriage.
Yeah.
But she didn't.
and I'm glad she didn't
and I believe she's glad she didn't
you know like June next year
to be 20 years and it's like
we went through this process
to get where we're at as far as where we're at
spiritually in a marriage with God
and it's like
sometimes you walk through
some incredible storms and in the moment
you have no definition on
until you get through it and God shows you
where your feet are now
and you look back and you're like
that storm hasn't gone anywhere
that's still there. That's in my memory. But if I didn't go through that, I wouldn't be standing on the shore here with you.
Yeah. And the thing, too, to think about it's like that, so we talk about the 10-year journey of the show. Yeah. But that's a 20-year journey you're talking about the get from that point when you were married and you struggled through all this stuff, the everything that was going on and the immaturity and everything to get to the point that you're at now, 10 years after you started the show, but 20 years after that journey began with your wife. You know, it is not a short thing.
It's she is long suffering.
Exactly.
But that's like the whole, you know, Paul writing to Timothy, finishing the race well.
That's, you know, I fought a good fight and I'm finishing the race.
That's the point is that you fight.
You continue to fight.
The race is not something that is, you know, a short distance.
It's not a sprint.
This is a marathon.
And it takes a long time to finish it well.
Right.
Yeah.
And you're fighting.
That's the point.
You're fighting.
We're all fighting.
We're all fighting.
Like we all.
have, I'm going to air everybody's dirty laundry real quick, not you
but we all have things going on in our lives, you know, that don't make the show.
I mean, like, this is, I don't know if I've ever, I know I've said to you guys,
but it's not like a policy, but kind of is a policy here.
It's like, especially we went through some growing pains and learning how to do this
working together stuff, right?
But now it's like, listen, when that camera goes on, these mics go on, we're here
for a specific purpose and we leave that baggage alone.
And there's a lot of times that, like, we go.
and it's like things are falling apart, you know?
Like there's problems at home.
There's craziness, you know, death, all that stuff.
And we leave that there so that we can come here and do what we're called to do in on mission.
But things are kind of like sometimes they're crumbling, you know?
And in that crumbling, like I believe the three of us and Jade, I'm sure you're the same way.
If not, don't say it just look good.
But it's like we're just kind of mucking our way through this slop, just knowing that there's a promise on the other end of it.
And that's where a lot of the faith comes in, belief comes in, knowing who he is, you know, and knowing that there's not too much pressure for him to handle.
I forget what pastor was I recently saw.
He used the example of like this idea of, you know, us not wanting to burden the Lord.
with the pressures of our life, the problems with our life. And he's like, you know, you second guess
and question if God can carry that way for you, essentially. You're not relying fully in your weight
on him. And then he pulled a chair out. And he's like, how many of you before I sit down on this
question, if the chair is going to hold me? And he sits down and obviously holds him and stuff. He's like,
you have more faith in this chair than you do in your savior to carry your problems through the storm
you're going through. And I was like, whew.
past the breach.
You know, like, I'm not the most vocal person in a service,
but that was like, wow, you can say that a hundred times again.
Because that just goes into our lenses of how we walk through life.
Do we walk through lives understanding the supernatural existence we live in?
Or are we defining everything going on in our life just through our natural lenses, you know?
And then we're not comprehending what our savior can do for us.
That's right.
So, all right, guys, let's wrap it up.
If you guys got anything else to say it, if now we're going to call quits.
Nothing good, man, no.
Okay, cool.
All right, thanks for tuning in, guys.
That is the update from the conference,
what we perceive, and hopefully you agree with us,
that there was strong spiritual warfare happening.
Remember, the precursor to everything was us being told
that there was witches in the audience.
And it's like, cool.
That was just confirmation.
That was just confirmation of what we were sensing coming.
So we appreciate everybody tuning into another live, Slingshot Nation.
We will see you next week.
And I believe the week after that,
we might have a very, very special guest in studio if they so choose to agree.
Have not pitched a two of them yet.
Stay tuned, guys. We love you. Thanks for tuning in.
And we'll see you guys next week.
Peace out. Bye.
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God with me, whole squad.
Walking the spot like who that.
Standing in the slang and the truth slap.
Never in the way we moved dad.
All my name for the hit like a duress.
I was stuck in the valley that view bad.
Now I'm up in the hills with a food bag.
God took all my elves ran through that.
Now the wind stack high like a new stack.
Every step with the light, that's a blueprint.
Whole pack getting bright because he's doing it.
He the king so the crown got a new fear.
And the cross hit harder than a new clip.
We ain't here just a movement.
To the truth is like, boom, can't miss.
No.
God with me.
I'm in the dirt.
Now I'm cleaned up.
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