The Confessionals - Teen Game Opens Real Portal Doors (And Something Is Waiting Inside) | Slingshot Nation
Episode Date: April 10, 2026Millions are playing a viral "game" where someone guides you into a trance to walk through doors inside your own mind. They're calling it Red Door Yellow Door. Most think it's harmless.It isn't.On th...is Slingshot Nation Live, we break down where this ritual actually comes from, its direct roots in shamanic spirit journeying and occult trance work, and why people keep encountering the same dark entity behind those doors, a tall man in a suit no one told them to expect.We're also discussing how NASA's Artemis II just carried astronauts around the far side of the moon for the first time since 1972. The world cheered. But who is Artemis? Why does the space program keep reaching into ancient mythology, and what does that signal beyond the headlines?Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Big Picture Prophecy Conference REPLAY - Catch the whole conference still available at prophecyconference26.comTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMy NEW Website: tonymerkel.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: contact@theconfessionalspodcast.comMAILING ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer
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Welcome to Slingshot Nation Live, everybody.
We have a new person in studio, or should I say thing?
Say hi, Oscar.
Say hi.
We have a little mascot here in the studio.
We just got a puppy here, the family and I.
And so with Lindsay doing doctor's appointments, some days, Oscar has to come in the studio with me so that he can be cared for.
So if you hear the puppy barking on the show today, I might need to go and take him out.
But he's doing pretty good.
He's really learning how to be potty trained and all that stuff.
Derek, how are you doing there?
Good, man.
That's so good to be here again.
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man, because it gets wild. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say we're too down in deep, deep into the
in the thick of it, but maybe.
I don't know.
Jack's over here laughing.
Jack, how you doing, man?
I am great.
It's good to be here.
Happy Thursday, right?
It's not hump day.
I wish we could say,
humpday, humpday, hump day, hump day, hump day.
You guys remember that commercial?
Anyway.
My puppy, my baby puppy is throwing me off.
This is my dog.
This is my dog.
He's like a comfort animal.
I know.
Like, he just keeps you calm.
He makes me feel good.
So, no, I would say that we're not so far down the rabbit hole
for our, from our perspective,
but I've been noticing the,
my perspective is skewed these days.
So, like, it's like when you're trying to explain things to people,
you know, the whole, what do you do for a living?
And you're like, oh, boy.
It's like if you imagine a track runner running hurdles, right?
And it's like 200 meters long.
Like, we're already at 180 and 190 meters.
We've already jumped like 20 hurdles.
Yeah.
And so for the first person, it's like, how do you jump the first hurdle?
I know.
And it's like, we're way past.
that. Yeah. And it's all true. How do you do it? I don't know. I just do it now. Yeah.
So we're going to be doing a show today talking about, we're going to start out talking about
Artemis and we're going to hit on that a little bit. And then we're going to get into this weird
game that kids are playing these days. And I didn't plan this out very well. I'm going to have to
get off camera here for a second and put the puppy away so I can actually focus. Are you good? You want to
say goodbye? You want to say goodbye? I want to say goodbye.
I love us.
Park, bark, bark, bark.
So, Derek, just ad lib for a second.
Adlib for a second.
All right.
Well, we're going to start with Artemis, correct?
So that's all big in the news.
Obviously, it shot off on April 1st.
Their new NASA's new launch to start us to try to get to the moon.
That'll be the next phase with Artemis 3.
And so interesting correlations going on with Artemis.
there's things in the sky that people are seeing all over as well, strange meteors or things in the sky.
So we're ready to rip and roll with that.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I already hear him whimpering.
That's why I was like, that's my dog.
So, yeah, we're going to talk about Artemis here.
And then I want to get into the red door, yellow door game that these kids are playing.
It seems like it's the new, I don't know.
I'm trying to think of a game that we would have played as kids.
Like Ouija or something like that.
Like, Ouija board.
Yeah.
Like, I remember when I was a kid, we used to do like stupid things.
But nothing like this.
There's the, what was it?
The Bloody Mary.
Bloody Mary.
You remember that?
Yeah.
That's what I was thinking of.
Bloody Mary is like, I feel like it's whatever you want to give open a.
What is he doing?
He just came alive.
He was sleeping the whole time.
I know.
I know.
We go live.
He's ready to rock.
So it might get interesting.
But I feel like Bloody Mary's like a lot of this stuff,
I feel like it's just opening up a portal to have access to the other side.
And it will show itself to you however you desire kind of thing.
And so that's what I was thinking, though.
When I was a kid, when I was in middle school, there was this thing where you would take like 10 deep breaths.
and then they put their,
somebody would put their hands on your neck and push
and like, you pass out.
And that's what we did as kids.
No need for a spiritual round.
You just straight pass out.
We don't need to do no trance.
Let's just cut to the chase and pass out.
And I remember when I was in like seventh grade
or eighth grade and they did that.
And I woke, I passed out.
and I woke up with the one kid to wake me up, decided to kick me in my nuts.
And that's how I woke up.
Oh, man.
So, yeah.
So you didn't have an NDE, though, right?
No, I don't think so.
He didn't let me get that far into it.
But I guess the kids are more sophisticated these days with their games, and they're doing it differently.
So we're going to get into that.
But as far as Artemis goes, you know, it just feels like there's this.
And Derek, I know you were looking into some of the symbolism or whatever.
and I want you to hit on that.
But it just feels like, you know,
you have a lot of stuff going up in the sky right now, you know?
And it's like all signs are pointing to the sky.
You have Artemis shooting off into space.
You have UFO, UAP disclosure.
You have Iran and United States, Israel, shooting rockets up into the sky.
I feel like there's one I'm missing.
You have, there's just everything keeps going up into the sky.
and it makes you feel like, oh, the fireballs in the sky.
And it just seems like everything right now is getting you to look up.
And it makes you wonder, you know, is that because they want you to look up?
Is there something going on up there that they're trying to let you know and tell you without actually saying it?
What are some of your thoughts on this right now?
Well, if we go to the NASA website and it says, why go to space, right?
Human space exploration addresses fundamental questions about our place in the universe.
and the history of our solar system.
NASA's exploration vision is anchored in providing value for humanity
by answering some of the most fundamental questions.
Why are we here?
How did it all begin?
Are we alone?
And what comes next?
So I read that, and to me, I'm thinking,
this could very much be poised for an aspect of disclosure that is necessary.
So you think this could be playing into disclosure?
Absolutely.
The Artemis part.
I think NASA itself is going to be a branch of this disclosure element.
And so as I'm reading this, are we alone and what comes next?
I think like Trump initially putting Space Force back on the map and repushing NASA and everything else, I think is very intentional to begin possibly what is coming with disclosure.
Interesting.
I can't argue with you on that.
It does seem like everything that we're doing is.
pushing towards this idea of disclosure and to fit a certain narrative.
One of the things that with Artemis, that's interesting, is what the astronauts say they reported seeing up there.
Now, I saw some videos pushing this idea that it's all green screen.
And I saw some, it looked like green screen effect.
The little head spinning, whatever, their little toy.
I forget what it was.
RCE or something in the frame that.
clearly looked like it was cut out from a green screen on a video. And, you know, like,
you try to, like, for me, I try to when I see that stuff, because I'm like, that's so
easy. Like, first of all, it's so easy for us to point in and be like, green screen. So it's like,
really, is it a green screen? And then on top of it, it's like, well, you would, like,
billions of dollars, right? And, I mean, I don't have a green screen. I honestly, personally,
me, jack probably knows how, but I don't know how to use a green screen, right? I've tried it before,
and it's difficult to cut out yourself at times. You see the green kind of overlay on the shoulders
and stuff where it's not getting it perfect. But I have other friends who do green screen,
and you, like literally you can't tell. You know what I mean? And so it's like,
how can they be so sloppy with their green screen work? You know, so it makes you, it makes you
question, like, is it really green screen or is it that they, they are intentionally being sloppy
with green screen work to, you know, push, to get, to get things going? You know what I'm saying?
Like, it feels like there's manipulation tactics. And even maybe the manipulation tactic itself is to
get people conspiratorial minded to jump into the pool and be like, look, green screen, but why? Right.
No, I mean, even just like, I think there's like nine still photos of the dark side of the moon.
Yeah. And they're very intentional to me.
It's like, why can't we have a little bit of a video of it?
Like, they're out there.
They obviously have a video recorder.
Why aren't, I mean, I would be, wouldn't you?
If you're an astronaut, I would be recording everything.
So it makes you wonder, like, because I know there's people that, like, they don't even
want to, like, give credit to the fact that we have humans in space right now, you know?
But, I mean, it could it be, if they're really out there, if they're actually going around
the moon and all that stuff, could it be something where it's like,
they are shooting video. It's just they haven't come back yet for us to see the video. Like, is there,
is there, if you want real good footage, uploading it once you get back to Earth so people who can see,
you know, instead of sending it back through 100,000 miles of space. Now, it would be extremely
suspicious if, you know, and what, a few days when they return. I think it's a 10-day trip or something
like that. When they come back, if, let's give them two weeks a month. If we're not seeing high,
high quality footage of them going, like, they should be vlogging it, you know, like,
absolutely.
Oh, 100%.
Your iPhone can take incredible footage, you know?
And so it would be incredibly suspicious, right?
But you were talking about this idea, the narrative of it pushing towards disclosure.
And the idea of using anything like that to push towards disclosure would be, it's all agenda-driven,
narrative-driven, and things like that.
And so when you take this Artemis trip, what are some things that are coming out of it that seem to be agenda driven, narrative driven?
Well, one is what they say they're seeing on the backside of the moon.
So they're talking about having green and brown hues.
So first of all, right there, I don't know what or why it would have green or brown hues.
I don't know if the whole moon looks like that without the, what, at the front of the,
side of it, I guess is reflecting sunlight. It makes me wonder, like, it does a whole thing look
like that? Or is it just that backside? I don't know. But when they said that there was geometric
patterns that they were seeing, that does push, if you're going to go disclosure mindset,
that does push the idea of one disclosure mindset. But isn't it funny how a lot of this disclosure talk
that we've had over the last, you know, nearly a decade now has.
at times pushed narratives that have been heavy
in the conspiratorial realm for so many years.
And this is definitely one of them.
Like, them putting out this idea that there were geometric patterns
on the dark side of the moon.
Well, what else will we have heard about the dark side of the moon?
Like, I'm sure I've talked about it at some point on the show,
the confessionals,
is that, like, on the dark side of the moon,
there are bases, there are alien bases,
there are Chinese bases.
there's all these conspiracies about what's on the dark side of the moon.
There's bases set up on the dark side of the moon.
And now they're shifting, going around the dark side of the moon,
and they just casually say,
there's geometric patterns on the dark side of the moon.
And it's like, well, you said it.
So now when you get back,
I'll give you that one month window to upload your video.
I want to see what these geometric patterns are.
Yeah.
Didn't you have a guy who did a 40-in-back?
Was any island moon base?
20-in-back.
Sorry. I've had several people do that.
And what's interesting about the 20-and-back situation,
so I think the one you're talking about, the main one I talk to is Tony Rodriguez.
What's interesting about the 20-and-backs is, I don't know how I feel about them right now.
I think people have situations, supernatural experiences that they would call a 20-and-back.
What really hurt the idea of the 20-and-back was Corey Good and
a couple other guys. I can't remember their names off top of my head, but they really
popularized the idea of 20-emback, and apparently they lied about it. Corey Good, I think in a court
setting, said that he made up his 20 imbaks for, I guess, attention or something like that. I don't
remember exactly. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Jack told me to say allegedly a lot, so
allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
But apparently he was scouring like 4chan or Reddit or something and collecting people's
experiences and created his own concoction or something.
But what's interesting is I don't remember it all, but the way it seems to lay out is you
could reasonably have an argument of saying 20 imbacks aren't necessarily not true.
it's just Corey Good, the person who popularized them, stole the idea of Twainting and Back, made it popular.
And because he's a liar, it discredits everybody else's experiences.
And could that be part of the agenda?
Right.
Yeah.
And as far as the dark side of the moon with structures, I mean, like, there's always been the idea that the moon is actually a satellite.
Have you heard this idea?
Because they explain it as tidal lock, basically like the ocean's gravitational pull, like, keeps the moon from rotating outside.
so it looks like it's never rotating. Does that make sense?
Sure. It actually is rotating with the Earth, but it looks like it's never rotating.
So we have the same face of the moon all the time.
Other people would say that it is a satellite, and it's actually just stuck in an outer part of the Earth's orbit where it is...
That's why the backside could be mechanical if it is actually a place there as a satellite.
I always wondered, like, when people say it's a satellite, do they mean like a satellite that is like a receiving radioways type of satellite?
Are we talking about like a satellite campus, a satellite location where we send people or maybe it's both?
Maybe historically both, yeah.
Who knows, man?
What I want to know is, are there, are there, we need to go back to the petrocliffs and Native American drawings and, you know, show us the moon.
Show us the moon.
There's got to be a moon somewhere in these drawings.
Well, and historically, like the calendar has always been set on a lunar calendar, even like the Hebrew calendar, still a lunar calendar.
So like the moon was placed.
to keep time for us humanoids on the earth.
You know, so that is historical.
And I think there was a shift a few, like, hundred years ago
where it actually moved the earth to 365 days
as opposed to being a perfect 360.
So, yeah, a lot of interesting stuff in that realm
of what the moon actually is and its function, you know.
It's strange also that it's the exact perfect diameter of the sun for eclipses.
So you get that, like, solar ring.
you get the halo ring all around it.
Like, it is beyond accident to me.
Like, obviously...
So what you're describing as intelligent design.
It's literally...
That's right. They're my brain right.
100%.
100%.
I just looked up on the demon machine.
If the moon is mentioned in the Bible, which I know it is,
and it just pulled up a bunch.
A lot of Deuteronomy, Psalms.
Psalm 104, 19.
He made the moon to mark.
the seasons, the sun will darken and the moon will not give its light. So if it's a technological
satellite, it's been around an awfully long time. Well, since you're bringing scripture up,
there's a really interesting tie-in with Artemis. Because, like, remember, the first aspect
was the Apollo missions, right? And so Apollo had a twin sister in Greek mythology, and that is
Artemis. And so Artemis is the hunter. She's the goddess of the moon. She's also the virgin goddess.
Wow. So, like, here we have these, like,
crazy tie-ins because we're always talking about like the feminine deity. Yeah. Right. And so now we're
naming this whole project after her as we're going to land on the moon again. And so I think like the
tie-in with like the crisp blood so feminine deity, like all this other stuff. Like we're going to
see it all kind of like work its way back around together and tie back in. And that's the thing.
Like we like what I kind of opened a show up with, you know, listening different things that
have us looking within the sky. It's like it doesn't it feel like everything that's coming out right now
is tied together somehow.
Like you can make a reasonable argument
that, you know, this is tied to this
and this is how.
Like what you just said,
with Artemis and the Bledsoe
and the lady,
the female deities,
like there seems to be this push
towards this idea
of looking to the sky
for the divine feminine.
Jeremiah would say
the queen of heaven.
Not a good guy, by the way.
Not a good guy.
More Trump.
More Trump on that one.
Not a good.
Not good at all.
There you go.
Close that door.
We'll get to the doors in a second.
But, yeah, I mean, the, let me see here, if I can pull up.
It says here for, in the Daily Mail article that I was looking at, as the astronauts swept over the far side of the Orion capsule,
they reported seeing striking geometric patterns, winding formations they deemed squiggles,
and unexpected shades of green and brown across the rugged lunar terrain.
And you said about going back to the moon again,
someone would say for the first time or supposedly,
but the idea of going to the moon the first time,
you know, back before we were born when they had better technology than we have today.
Dude, they say they lost the technology.
I know, I know.
Like you lost 1960s technology.
At one point, I did hear a really good explanation that made a lot of sense
on how you could lose technology.
And I think, if I remember correctly,
they actually used the example of ancient civilizations
that seem to be more advanced than we are losing.
And somehow we lost the technology.
I think it might have been Clyde Lewis.
So I heard they took the VHS that they recorded it all on and recorded it over it.
It was somebody's dance recital.
I thought he was going to actually bring some lackity.
I was actually going to go with the whole like Y2K, that Y2K erased all the information on the database.
I think it was Clyde Lewis a couple of times.
years ago just was talking about the idea that how quickly we could lose information just
in our own lifetime. I can't remember how he broke it down. But I think Clyde Lewis, I don't
think he's anti-moon landing. I think he's anti-moon landing the first time around, which is kind of where
I settle. Like, if you just kind of look at things and the environment that the world was in back
then, it would really, like, it would mean a lot for the United States to get to the moon first.
When they were having this arms race with Russia, who is going to be more superior,
this world power superiority, you know, if you can come and get to the moon first,
it kind of puts your name on it.
And so it does, in my mind, it's like I could see how, like, culturally speaking,
globally and the geopolitics of it, it would behoove the United States to be like,
at literally all costs, get to the quote unquote moon first.
And so the first time around, I don't know.
But, I mean, to say that we've never been there, I can't say that.
I can't say that we've never been there.
But I also say that I fall, I'm very agnostic on it.
I'm just like, I don't know.
A lot of good differing opinions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like that with a lot of these things that we talk about for the most part.
I'm pretty, like I might lean a certain way on something, but it's not going to ruin my life if it comes out of it.
it's the opposite.
Yeah, I mean, like, what Chappalo was it,
where they actually, like,
fix the spaceship with duct tape
in, like, a plunger or something?
Yeah, yeah.
And then they, like, somehow made it out of deep space
and came back, and it's like, okay.
And through the Van Allen radiation belt?
The Van Allen, yeah, I was going to mention that.
That's a big one, right?
That's a big one.
I mean, because wasn't it...
I believe it was an astronaut
or somebody from NASA
saying, suggesting something that this is, like,
the first time we've ever been able to get through
the Van Allen belt,
or we haven't been able to make it
through the Van Allen belt.
It's like, is the moon inside the Van Allen Belt?
I don't know how to make that make sense if that is true.
I forget who said that, but it was somebody within the last decade or something had mentioned about the idea that the biggest problem with space travel was getting through the Van Allen Belt.
And maybe that was where we lost the technology to do that.
That might be actually what it is.
We lost the technology to get through the Van Allen Belt.
But yet maybe we used original sourced.
spaceships from Roswell, and that's how we got there, and that we can't remake them.
Maybe. Maybe.
We're talking about lost technology.
Yeah. And we got, like, Elon over here, being able to build rockets that land and are reusable,
you know, and it's like...
Well, speaking of all that, it's really interesting. Like, the International Space Station is, like,
one... Jack, you have to fact check me on this real quick, though, but like...
Unless he's wrong. Well, it's only... So, no, so it's only like 400 miles.
miles above the surface of the earth.
Right.
And to travel to the moon is like another like times 40 distance.
So like all our space travel that we ad deem a space travel is actually only still in the
stratospheric like realm of the earth.
We're not actually going into like far space.
Interesting.
So that's why like going to the moon initially back in the 60s seemed so ridiculous because
there's no way like I saw one scientist even talk about like the jet propulsion aspect of it.
Like they would need gigantic.
amounts of energy to force their way through the layers past that 400-mile marker,
and then to actually go out to the moon, would take incredible energy sources that we just
don't have right now, as far as we know. Yeah, I don't buy it. I don't buy it. Yeah. I mean,
I don't know. I mean, Elon's talking about how we can go to Mars in his lifetime,
you know, so there's got to be a way to do it. Well, I mean,
I mean, if we get his chip, then we could go in our mind.
Yes.
You know what he mean?
And we can go to these realms like red door, yellow door, man.
That's so exciting.
Let's do it.
Let's get the chip, baby.
But also, if you think that all the images from NASA are fake,
which they are AI generated, the ones that we see, a lot of them,
you mean, those fake Mars ones that we've seen that are clearly like Arizona or something like that.
Greenland.
Greenland.
Like, I think they matched the landscapes like identically to,
Greenland, there's a spot in Greenland where it, I mean, they're saying this is Mars and all
that's different is the hue on the image, like the filter. Wow. Yeah. So those chips that
everybody gets in their minds, they could just send you to a new place that you've never been to
on Earth and give it a red color palette and that's it. You know, I think it was, I think it was
somebody that works for Google. The guy does, like, he was one of the people that works for like the
Google Maps side of things.
It was something like this where they, they, they, he had said that, yes, the, the, the images
on Google Maps is Photoshop and they have to be because of how we shoot the images, we have
to Photoshop them together and all this stuff.
And like, there's this technical side of it, but it's like, as soon as you bring Photoshop
into it, it's like, hold on a second.
Are you, like, are you trying to get me comfortable with the idea of you using Photoshop to
tell me what's real, you know?
Like, that seems backwards to me.
That's crazy.
What do you got?
You're looking something up here.
yeah, yeah. Well, I just wanted to tie in some of these, like, crazy because you said also that we've had a lot of, like, more asteroids and a lot more sightings in the skies of things burning up. And guess what, guys, it ties into the Bible. So this is going to be cool. It's in Acts 19 and 35. This is when they're, like, preaching at the temple of Artemis. So Ephesus was known as, like, one of the wonders of the world. Her temple was, like, beyond, wow. Who was? The temple of Artemis.
Okay.
Yeah.
In Ephesus.
Okay, gotcha.
So remember, like, they start preaching the gospel, and then everyone's getting mad because
they're not buying their trinkets anymore.
And so if you go to verse 35 and the second part of it, it says, now men of Ephesus, who is there,
who does not know what the city of Ephesus, the temple keeper of the great Artemis,
and the sacred stone that fell from the sky.
So, like, that translation in the Greek, Diopides, is,
only used this one time, and it's used specifically for this. And so there's a cool,
meteors are often revered in antiquity as material tokens of a God's presence. So, like,
as Artemis, like, again, it's named Artemis, right? And, like, we're sending Artemis to the
sky, does there a correlation to these tokens of a God's presence? Because we are, like, now
worshipping the Artemis again. Like, is, we re-bringing forth the meteors,
because it's a token of a God's presence.
So it's really interesting because if you think about,
like, so every planet is named after a God.
So Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, go through them all.
They're all named after a God, all the ones that are in this solar system,
except for Earth.
Like, we're the only one that isn't named after like a Greek God, right?
Because Mercury is Hermes, and Hermes is the one that actually transatlore.
what did he do?
He flew between worlds, right?
And he had the wings on his feet.
You know, if you could think back to Hercules, the cartoon,
he's the blue one with the wings on his sandals, right?
But it's Hermes, it's like Apollo, it's Artemis, it's all of these that are part of NASA.
And so, like, they are doing the exact same thing that they did at the very beginning,
which was naming these planets for a specific reason.
So you're going to the realm of the gods, which is in the outer space, because you named all these planets the Greek gods names, and now you're naming your spaceships in the same, for the same reason, to honor them.
So it's like, it's like an offering to the gods.
That's what it feels like.
It's a hive.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that kind of goes into like how these orbs and other things appear to people in the same way, right?
like, or these spaceships.
Like what we learn is that a lot of times they are gifted,
they're not actually ever fallen, right?
And so the same way,
are we somehow making an offering to Artemis?
Because it actually says that that stone is actually which fell down from Jupiter,
which fell down from heaven.
Like these things are like now then received and given out as we acknowledge them.
Well, let's get into some of these things that fall out of the sky.
Jack, I don't know if you have that link available,
but what I did was I just went on X
and I just typed in some like fireballs falling from the sky.
And there's tons of different videos.
And one of the videos,
so Jack, if you could just flip through some of these,
but let's go through that first guy right there,
Jordan Crowder, I think his name is.
This video here.
Show this video.
This is interesting.
You can give it audio.
So this was actually
sirens going off
and I think it
I think it was because
they weren't sure
if it was a missile
if it was a missile
but pause it here for saying
yeah
so like this is the same
instance apparently
I think in Indonesia
if I'm not mistaken
but people actually were able
to walk up on whatever crashed
and I
wish I saw a video
that had it a little bit closer
if you play that video
Jack real quick
this one
Keep playing that one.
So something's clearly on fire there, but
is it a craft?
Is it a craft that's on fire?
And why doesn't anything cool like that happen in the United States?
Why can't that happen here in East Tennessee
so I can run out and take it look at it?
Oh, it does. It gets scrubbed.
It always avoids me.
It gets scrubbed.
You know what?
I, you know what's interesting?
I don't know if I ever shared this on the show.
I think I shared it with you guys not too long ago,
but I had a dream that was very vivid, and it happened, I think it was a day before Epic Fury kicked off in Iran.
Do you guys remember me talking about the plane?
Vaguely.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
So I had this dream that it was really quick, but I was out on the back deck of my house.
And it was a nice sunny day out.
And I just remember looking up in the sky.
And one of the gray military planes that are over at the Knoxville Airport was flying
overhead, but it was like on fire.
And it crashed over the hillside and exploded.
And then like the next day or maybe two days later, they announced the Epic Fury and the
military push into Iran.
And I'm still like, I was just thinking about yesterday.
I was trying to analyze that dream.
it just a dream or was it like a did it signify something because like my thought like it felt so real
i told lindsay i said i'm telling you there's going to be a plane that crashes like i really felt
that way and then epic fury kicked off and i started thinking oh was that like something that
you know was a premonition dream of showing that we were going to be entering into a military
conflict um but why was our plane on fire then i started thinking like are we getting a
But again, we're looking to the sky, things falling from the sky.
We just had a pilot.
One of our pilots got shot down in Iran, and he survived.
And he had like a beacon that he turned on to be able to be located, but it wasn't accurate enough.
And so the Iranians knew he crashed, and they were searching for him.
So there was basically like, from what I understand, there was these two different
convoys of Iranians like zigzagging through the terrain trying to find this pilot.
And then we had ours coming in from another direction.
And it's called the device that they used, I think it was called ghost murmur.
Maybe you can look at Upjack and just let me know.
I think it's called ghost murmur.
But it's a piece of technology that they introduced to the world publicly for the first time.
And what it is is it will detect the pilot's heartbeat.
So apparently the heartbeat is like a fingerprint.
It has its own unique signature.
And so it was over about a 40-mile distance.
It could cut out all different sounds and waves
and hone in on this one signature,
which was the pilot's heartbeat.
And so they, one, knew where he,
the new that he was alive.
And it directly located him and they could precisely extract him.
And I think Sealt Team 6 went in and extracted him.
But it was because they used this, and I think it's through Lockheed Martin, this new technology that will like literally find you according to your heartbeat.
And from what I understand, it doesn't actually work great in heavily populated areas if there's a lot of things in the way.
but like this was the perfect scenario where it was out in the middle of nowhere and there wasn't a
whole lot of people out there so they could really hone in on it. But this was just the first
run of ghost murmur on a public level. Who's this who knows what's going to look that kind of
technology is going to look like in 10, 20 years, let alone imagine what else they have. What are you going to say,
this is one of the, this is a quote that they had said specifically about what it, how it operates.
It says, it's like hearing a voice in a stadium,
except the stadium is a thousand square miles of desert.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It's nuts.
It's nuts.
It's nuts.
And so, like, we got super, like, I don't know, not supersonic.
What's the word I'm looking for?
The weapon they used in Venezuela.
Ultrasonic?
Ultrasonic.
Like, they're using frequencies to cripple their enemy.
And now they're using probably, it probably has to do with frequencies.
being able to read your heartbeat.
It's a long-range quantum magnetometry.
Magnetometry.
Cool.
You know, like, it's just crazy to think about the technology that's out there that they're using,
that we have access to.
And it just, you're constantly playing this balancing act.
Like, we have that kind of technology.
And it's like, but we can't get to space.
But we did that in the 60s.
And it's like gaslighting from 10 different angles.
And you're trying to distinguish what reality actually is.
Right. And like not being able to get back to space would just make you believe,
hey, we didn't go to space to begin with.
It was all fake.
Right.
And that's fine.
You faked it so that you boosted morale and made it, made America feel like they were the best,
yada, yada, yada.
But now we just, you know, now we don't expect it to be as cool as what you think it is now.
because you're saying to us that you went to space in the 60s.
And we're like, okay.
Like, how out of the blue was this whole thing?
Like, I feel like I heard no lead up to this.
There was no, like, serious.
Yeah.
Like, there was nothing that came from this.
I was like, the buildup was, we're getting ready to go to the moon.
This is what's going to happen in a month.
This is what's going to happen in a week.
Like, no, it was just there.
It wasn't, like, strongly marketed.
I remember them talking last year.
I guess you mentioned Derek to me earlier.
that it's going to be Artemis 3, the mission where they actually land on the moon.
But the astronauts that I guess they're going to Artemis 3, I don't know if they're the same
ones as this one, but the astronauts talking about how, you know, it's a huge step for humanity
to make it to the moon and this, that, and the other one's like, wait, what?
Like, what?
You know?
The first time or the second?
What is this?
Yeah.
Like, are we living in an alternate reality?
Has things shifted?
And all of a sudden, in this reality, some of us don't remember.
actually supposedly going to the moon the first time.
Like, this is like, what is going on here?
All like I think of was Jim Carrey and dumb and dumber when he's just randomly in the
cowboy hat at the bar.
He turns around.
He's like, we landed on the moon.
It's like, that's the reality we're in, you know?
Yeah.
So that's some Artemis talk.
I think we actually spent more time on that than we thought we would.
But I want to get into this, what I feel is a more interesting topic of conversation.
And that's the game, red door, yellow door.
It's a paranormal game that kids are playing at sleepovers.
And I know we talked about the Bloody Mary game,
but I just feel like there was another game that kids were playing
that had this kind of implication.
And it may not have been even that long ago.
But I just really can't, I can't remember.
But I want to start reading this article about it.
And just to be fair, it seems like this article is a very pro game.
And so it just, you get different people's perspectives on, you know, what's good, what's not.
And it's just interesting.
So this ritual is also known as Black Door, White Door, or Doors of the Mind.
And that, I think, is very interesting.
and we should keep in mind.
Doors of the mind, keep in mind.
One person acts as a guide, puts you into a trance
and leads you through doors and rooms in your mind.
Right there, I question because I don't know if it's actually in your mind.
And that's the nerve-wracking part.
As you learn more about this, you hear more about this,
it's, I don't think this is just in the kids' minds.
And I think that's probably the safety zone that people want to land on, the kids that are doing it, the parents that are okay with it, to the person writing this article is like, it's in your mind. It's in your mind. And it's like, but what if it's not in your mind? What if what you're doing, this ritual, which this article even described is taking your consciousness out of your mind and putting it somewhere else where it's having this experience. And so it's concerning. To play this game, you need at least two people. One is the guide and the other is a subject. So, you know, you're not. You. You know,
you're in a room, and there can be lots of people, but one person is the guide.
So this person is going to be sitting in this realm.
Let's put in Tony terms.
This person will be sitting in this realm, and the other person is going to put their head
on like a pillow or on the person's lap as the person sits cross-legged.
And they're going to massage the person's temple in a circular motion, which every time I talk
about dealing with somebody's temples,
I think about how I almost killed my wife.
Do you remember that, Jack?
Yes.
Like, when I was reading this article,
I remember how, like, I almost,
I probably shouldn't talk about this.
Nah.
Was the other game you're talking about...
It was an accident, though.
Was the other game you're talking about
light as a feather, stiff as a board?
I think that might have been it.
I think that might have been in,
light as a feather stiff as a board.
Do you recall what that was as far as how it went?
It was, but it was, again,
it's these...
chance that...
Getting into trance.
Yeah, you get into trance.
And how does a feather stiff as a board?
And they repeated over and over again.
What was the end result, though?
Was it, like, that they float or something?
Yeah, I think it was that they float.
They actually float off the ground or something like that.
Yeah, because, like, it was supposed to be like, what is that?
The close encounters of the fourth kind, like, how they just, like, you see that scene
where they, she's stiff as a board and levitates.
It's basically like that.
Yeah.
So this game, you have at least two people, but other people can be around.
And the people who are around have a point where they can participate if they choose.
But the requirement for those people is to basically, unless you're participating in the certain chance, be quiet.
Be still, just observe.
So it's a two-person process.
And so step one, the guide sits down on the floor, cross-legged with a pillow on their lap.
You lie on the ground with your head with your head on the pillow and close your eyes.
So it's like your head, the back of your head's on the pillow, so you're facing up.
Step two, raise your hand.
So the person that's going to be going into the trance raises their hands in the air and
they try to relax.
Your eyes must be kept closed throughout this game.
It's not a game.
Step three, the guide starts to massage your temples with their fingers in a circular motion
while chanting red door, yellow door, any other colored door over and over.
if there are other people in the room watching,
they can chant too.
So that's the part where people can get involved.
So, like, that just sounds like a horror movie, you know?
Like, think about that chanting,
and then everybody in the room chanting that.
You talk about mantras, and we were talking about, we talked about six, seven.
Well, I talked about it on the show before you guys were joining me.
And, you know, the idea of six, seven,
and that being a global ritual chant that the youth were chanting together.
And I don't believe, I could be convinced otherwise, but I don't believe that 6-7 was the key to unlocking any kind of evil in this world or the next or whatever.
But I think it was the idea of getting a mass group of people chanting one specific thing.
and knowing that Scrilla does spells and rituals over his singles and his albums when he releases them.
And so you don't know like what his ritual was and what his goal was for that song.
It could have been that he wants it to take a cultural hold.
And he didn't have six, seven in his mind as much as something else.
In fact, I think that song was called Dute Dute.
And so maybe he was like, you know, I want everybody saying Dute,
dude and, you know, his, his yemiya god, was like, oh, I misheard you. I thought you meant six,
seven, you know? So, but it's this idea, this like chanting. Step four, when you feel yourself
slipping into a trance and you can see a room or doors in front of you, lower your arms,
this is the signal for the chanting to stop and the game will begin. Step five, the guide will
ask you questions, getting you to describe your surroundings and prompting you,
to open doors. Whenever the guide asks you a question, you should answer it. Here are some examples of the
type of questions the guide should ask. Are you in a room? Describe the room. What color are the doors?
How do you feel about the purple door? Open the purple door and go through it. So, like,
that makes me really unhesitating. This idea, like, this question here, how do you feel about the
purple door. So you're taking yourself and you're putting yourself in an unnatural state.
And then in your unnatural states, something that you're not familiar with, you're now the one
going to be the judge and jury on what's good, what's bad. How does that purple door make you feel?
And it's like, I don't think that's the proper question whatsoever. Like, I don't give a crap
how you feel about anything right now. Like the environment is 100%
sent manipulated. You know, the Bible talks about Satan appearing as an angel of light. And what does that
mean? It means that he'll appear in a form that makes you feel comfortable. It makes you feel good,
you know? And I was looking here in, in Proverbs 14, 12. It says, there's a path before each person
that seems right, but it ends in death. Again, it's a proverb, but it's like you could be
in your own will and understanding think this is perfectly fine. It feels good, but your feelings
are not engaged to be going on in these kind of environments, and it could lead the death. In fact,
in this game, one of the suggestions is if you make the wrong decision, it literally could kill you.
And so that proverb 1411 or 1412 literally, literally it's kind of describing what,
what this game could possibly do.
So before I go any further,
do you guys have anything you want to say about this?
Yeah, so I was messaging Patrick Dwyer,
who was on shows recently,
and he was just saying, like,
typically in shamanic journeys,
like he's in control.
So this aspect,
where the kids are getting in a trance,
they're not in control of a lot of what is happening to them.
That's why you have the second person who's a guide.
Yeah.
So it's, like, very, very dangerous
in the aspect that, like,
you're not really in control of all these what's going on in this like middle world of the second
heaven, this like aspect wherever it is that your mind is in your soul are going.
Yeah. That you're not in control, which is like very, very much a big no-no for most people
who do these kind of practicing. Yeah. So he's saying as a former shaman, he would, if he was still
a practicing shaman, he would say, hey, don't do that. He would even say it's bad. Yeah.
You knew what I was going to do.
You knew what I was going to do.
In the words of Bill Gates, no, no, don't do that that bad.
We got to get that sound drop.
But no, I mean, so if you don't want to take this guy and this guy's word for,
take it from a former shaman.
In his shaman practices, he would tell you that's a really bad idea.
Yeah.
It's a really bad idea.
Go ahead.
I'd go ahead finish your thought.
No, just to go into another state of existence and understanding and you're taking your soul or your spirit into another realm and doing it in a way that you're not in control of it is terrifying.
Yeah, and it makes you wonder too, like, these kids are doing it probably like very naively, right?
Oh, yeah.
And without that's a game.
Yeah, without that type of intent to, you know, conjure anything.
But what will come back with them, you know?
like if you actually, if they are,
if some of them are actually accessing a different realm
or something, or being in contact
with something, like you, obviously
you guys said, don't get in contact with this thing
or it'll kill you, that's the fear for them.
But if they see
this thing or if something is just, you know,
hitchhiking on the way back,
you know, it's just like any of these games that you play,
you know, Bloody Mary, Light as a feather, stiff
as a board, red door, yellow door,
they're all the same. Like, you could possibly
have a hitchhiker or something like that.
So. Yeah. And,
that just reminded me that I forgot to look up one thing here before we started that I was like,
oh, I should look that up and I forgot. So we'll see if I can dig it up here. But let me keep moving here.
So they offer some advice to the participants of this. And some of this, my jaw hit the floor when I heard it or when I read it.
If you encounter people in rooms, it may be wise not to interact with them. Usually they turn out to be evil.
or try to trick you.
So advice number one,
if you run into anybody else,
run away.
Like, don't interact because they,
it says,
usually,
usually they turn out to be evil
or try to trick you.
Like,
I should tell you that,
that this one is not in your mind.
It's not a game or else you should,
like,
if it's just in your mind and it's a game,
there should be no repercussions of,
of this,
but why is there something evil in your mind trying to trick you?
I got a quick question, though.
So, like, you have the person crisscross applesauce, right,
and they're the ones that are guiding the person.
How does the guide even know where the person in the trance is going through?
So the person in the trance will be describing what they're seeing.
They're speaking on.
Yeah, so it's like, what's the word?
Hypnosis.
Yep.
It's like hypnosis, where the person that's hypnotized is still talking.
talking and they're like in this other state of understanding, right?
Gotcha.
I'm not understanding, but their mind is there.
Yeah, consciousness.
It's there, but it's not here.
It's in this like middle ground, right?
And so, yeah, from what I understand, that's what's going on.
It's like, how does the guide even know the exits then?
They don't.
That's like so crazy.
From what I understand, the guide is your anchor point into this reality to bring you back in case of emergency.
Oh, wow.
That's actually really interesting because there's this movie called Talk to Me
where they have somebody who's an anchor point for them that after 90 seconds,
like it has to be that they get brought back within 90 seconds.
Really?
Yeah.
So that's interesting because I'm not sure if is this article or another one,
but it might have been another one.
I think it suggested that part of the guide's job is to bring you back
and you shouldn't be in this other state of existence more than I think 10 minutes or else it gets
real dangerous.
And so, all right, so that's advice number one.
Advice number two, if you find yourself in a room full of clocks, leave immediately.
Clocks can trap you.
That's what I forgot to look up.
I wanted to look up more about the clocks and what the symbology is there and stuff.
But the first imagery that takes me to is Allison Wonderland.
Yeah. And so, like, if you want to go on a deep dive of that, you know, and I think a good source for that would probably be, I'm pretty sure somewhere in the show's existence, Isaac Wysop has done Alice in Wonderland documentation. But I'm sure he would have things to say about the clocks and what that means. Do you guys have any thoughts on the clocks or doesn't know.
I mean, to me, it might just be like a time distortion. So like you're going to get stuck in not even.
acknowledge the time or how time is functioning anymore in that realm. And so you could be trapped
because you're not aware of time anymore. Yeah, I mean, let's see here. So I'm looking at the
chat, you B.T here, quick. Other realms, time distortion, when people report supernatural
encounters, dreams, NDE, psychedelics, occult, rituals, clocks often appear in strange ways,
time looping, frozen clocks, melting, or distorted clocks,
which wasn't melting clocks part of Alstmoreland,
endless ticking and no visible source.
These aren't random.
They usually symbolize being outside normal, earthly time.
Right there, it's taking you outside of your body.
Entering a controlled or manipulated environment,
a boundary between realms.
That's interesting.
What's interesting is that I just, all I did was I opened up a chat here
and I said
all I said was clocks
and other realms symbols
and that's what it spit out to me
it had no context whatsoever
let's see here
cycles of power
okay so I'll get off this
but interesting enough
so I got stuff for you
because I looked it up on Claude too
and it says because that realm
is not physical and there is no time
like in that realm
so the second have in no time.
It's an anomaly.
And it's usually for people who have encountered these,
it's either a trap set by an entity,
a liminal snare,
which is the clocks are ticking at different speed,
suggesting temporal distortion,
similar to what you said,
a counterfeit construct or a demonic holding cell.
Yeah, that's all that, all that stuff.
All that.
Crazy.
All of it.
And that's what they're encountering.
All of it.
I want all of that.
And more like, that's what this is.
Because as we go through here, there's going to be a character that pops up that we are all going to recognize.
So number three, you can go wherever you want, but it's better to go up than to go down.
I would say yes.
I would say yes.
Does anybody want to go down?
I almost wonder if they put these in there, though, so that like those risky kids will be like, well, don't tell me what to do.
And then they'll actually do the opposite.
Listen, honestly, I hope that this, of all episodes and shows that I ever do,
I hope this one goes ultra viral.
And all these parents contact me saying, my kid was doing this game with, and here's what
they experienced.
Because I want to know more.
I'm just not going to do it.
And I'm not going to have my kids do it.
Absolutely.
And I don't want anybody's kids doing it.
But there are kids out there doing it right now.
And I'd like to know what they're experiencing.
We're going to in a little bit here, we're going to play a little bit of a compilation
video.
because the first time I heard about this was from Marcus Rogers.
I came across one of his videos talking about this,
and he played a compilation video,
and I was like, holy crap.
When I started seeing what these kids were going through,
and some of the kids just 100% shook, terrified,
like they did not get what they thought they were going to be getting.
Wow.
So, yeah, don't go to hell, go to heaven.
That's, I mean, there is your gospel message for the day.
light things and light colors tend to be better than dark things and dark colors.
And again, going back to Satan appearing as an angel of light, there's a lot of manipulation
that happens in these kind of environments.
And so to lay the ground rules here for this game, for the person to operate off of what
feels good, how does it make you feel?
and again another sense here which is if it's light or light colors they're better than dark and dark colors
it's like it's again perspective what your perspective is in that environment which could be greatly
skewed like we don't know what kind of environments being orchestrated and built and and and
created around you kind of like what claude had said for jack jack if you go back to the claude
list that you read. What were some of the things that the characteristics?
Clockroom actually signals a trap set by an entity, liminal snare, a counterfeit construct,
or a demonic holding cell. Or a demonic wholly cell, but like a counterfeit construct. So like,
if you're in a counterfeit construct and you're feeling good, is that because it's a
counterfeit construct? It's designed to make you feel good. And so, like, I don't think you can actually
trust your senses in these kind of environments.
I don't trust my own senses in this realm.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, I make terrible decisions.
So number five, if you become trapped in a room, you have to try and wake up or you will be trapped in the trance forever.
Now, that might be a little much, but I don't know.
Like, again, it's, we're going to do some more of this list.
It's clearly, this list is your list of dues and don'ts to.
make this as safe as possible.
So we'll see a video.
And I'm going to try to have Jack pause it when we hit this video of this compilation.
Because the idea of you being trapped in this transfer ever, you do see somebody being filmed
doing this and it seemed like they weren't coming back.
And it's very concerning.
Number six, they say that if you die in the game, you could also die.
in real life. Isn't that something they say about dreams, too?
I don't know if I've ever heard that.
You'd never see yourself die in a dream, and if you see yourself die in a dream, you could
actually die in real life.
Nobody's ever heard that before?
I haven't.
Maybe mom told me that when I was a kid.
Don't die in your dream, Tony.
Well, we just had Kelly here yesterday.
Didn't she talk about, like, actually, like, losing your soul?
Like, basically, you're detached completely, and then people, like, lose aspects of
their own soul, and they're kind of, like, empty.
Yeah, so she was talking about soul trafficking.
And I forget how she described it, like the demonic floor, the soul trade on the demonic floor or something like that.
The way she talked about it, it seemed like there's this like this demonic stock market where they're trading souls.
Oh, wow.
And those souls are being traded through the fragments that, you know, people go through abuses and there's these fragments that develop through these abuses.
And that's just, I don't want to normalize anything, but like, quote unquote, normal abuse.
Like, I'm talking like, you know, dad hit me too much growing up.
I was beat a lot kind of thing.
There's fragments of your consciousness, if you want to say it that way,
there's these fragments that develop to compartmentalize, right?
But when there's the intentional abuse of this stuff and these fragments happen,
they're actually taking these fragments and then selling them in Astral.
It's crazy stuff.
Kelly was a great guest.
And I don't know when it's coming out, though.
So just be ready.
Be ready. Just be ready.
Okay, so
did I already cover the dying? Yeah, dying the game.
Okay, so
I'm going to skip number seven
and I'm going to go to number eight because number seven
is my number seven, yeah.
So number eight, in an emergency,
if you're unable to wake up,
it may be necessary for the guide to shake you
roughly until you awaken.
So again, what you'll see in that video
is something very similar to that.
Like somebody is not coming
back. And it's concerning. But my number seven that I skipped here, when I saw this, I was like,
you've got to be kidding me. Because it just, we were talking about Artemis and how all this stuff's
going in the sky. You have, you have space force up in the sky. You have things falling down out of the
sky. You have Artemis going up there. You have Iran, the United States, Israel shooting rockets up
in the sky at each other, UAPs in the sky, orbs in the sky. Orbs in the sky.
sky phenomenon, sky, sky, sky, sky.
It's like your things are, it's like something is linking together all this stuff.
And you're just like, I just can't put my finger on it, but there's something here, right?
This is how I feel about this.
Number seven, if you encounter a man in a suit who makes you feel uneasy, you should end the game immediately.
I just got shivers.
I literally just got shivers because where have we heard that before?
Nowhere.
don't say that
I'm just kidding
it's crazy
like it's
it's nuts
how much
the man in the suit
pops up
and once you have
like the awareness
of the man in the suit
it's like he just keeps coming
and I've
we have heard stories
of the man in the suit
identifying himself
in different ways
and I don't know if it's because
it's a different entity
every time
or if it's a different
face to the same entity
because we
had, so
I'm referring to episode 692.
Jack, I don't know if it's actually labeled
692 on YouTube, but if you could
just look it up and put it on the screen so people can
go and watch it, I guess, or however
you do that stuff.
But we called it the Dark Shift, so you can
look it up on YouTube, Dark Shift.
Episode 692, the Dark Shift.
And it's about the story
of a guy, he's a guy now,
he was a kid then, he went
into like a lucid dream, and he
found himself walking through a
cave system, and it opens up into a large room, and there's a man in there recruiting him
to work for him. And I believe it was a man in a black suit. And then we had JR years before
I ever had this legendary episode, 692, we had JR for episode 309. And in the overtime,
he told me that he was literally having sex with his girlfriend, and all of a sudden he
wasn't having sex with his girlfriend. And he was somewhere else. And he found himself walking through
a cave system. He comes up to an opening into a large room and he heard a voice say, you're now
entering the throne room. And there was a man dressed in a black suit recruiting him to work for him.
He said, no. The guy was offering him all this, this entity was offering him everything. And he said,
no, he wakes up back in the bed. And his girlfriend slaps him across the face, yells at him and says,
if you ever do that again, I'll kill you or whatever.
And he's like, what did I do?
I wasn't even here.
And years later, after him and I had our conversation,
we started connecting dots,
I had reached back out to him,
and he was so intrigued that somebody else had a similar experience
that he went, found his ex-girlfriend,
sat down in a diner with her,
and he recorded the conversation.
I have the audio somewhere.
I don't know.
I don't think we...
Have we ever released that audio?
I do not think so.
I don't think we have.
But she tells him what she experienced that night.
And what she experienced was he didn't go anywhere.
So he went somewhere.
He has no recollection of what happened that night.
He goes somewhere else.
And she said that he started walking her through different rooms.
And it was like every room was a new level and a weird sexual game that he was playing.
And they finally get to this last room.
and she said that now he never told her what happened that night they broke up this is years later
she says to him in the diner on the recording you said to me you're now entering the throne
room wow and then he's then then she said that you you violated me wow and it's like okay so
the the logical side of your brain says okay so jr
is a really bad guy.
He was a 1%
biker at one point. So you're like,
JR is telling me this story, but in reality,
he did this to his girlfriend,
and he's just making up a story to
move past it mentally.
Like, he doesn't want to admit
what he did, so he's trying to move past it.
And so his girlfriend says,
this is what happened,
and it's like, that's what happened.
The problem is,
you want to say that this was all in the natural.
He was just a really bad guy,
played a really sick game on his girlfriend,
and she was really mad at him the next day.
The problem is, on the same recording,
she said, while you were violating me,
there was a giant black shadow standing behind you.
She offered that.
He didn't ask.
She offered that information.
Wow.
And so he's saying,
I had a supernatural experience
that ended,
that had me go somewhere else,
recruited by a man dressed in black,
in some throne room.
I was having a great time with my girlfriend.
Now I'm not.
And then her experience is,
you abused me.
During the abuse,
you said something about a throne room.
And there was this big black shadow figure
standing behind you while you abused me.
So now it's like,
okay,
JR, in my mind,
mentally went somewhere else.
something took over his body.
And that's JR's experience.
Then you had, like I said, it's 692.
I've had numerous people reach out to me sharing similar stories.
I had this one guy.
I still haven't talked to him.
But shortly after I moved to Tennessee, DM me saying,
I know this is going to sound crazy.
But when I was a kid, I was recruited to work for an entity dressed in black
outside of my parents' apartment complex.
And I'm like,
that doesn't sound crazy at all to me, you know?
And so you have, again, this situation.
And I was going to go a personal direction.
I'm going to leave that.
I'm going to let that go.
But do you have this game where now it's talking about a man in a suit?
Now it doesn't say black suit, but it says a man in a suit who makes you feel uneasy.
You should end the game immediately.
So my question is, first of all,
all, how do you know you should end the game immediately unless there have been reports of
encountering the man in the suit and bad things happening? And it also shows me that this man in
the suit is popping up in other areas. So you have a lucid dream that he recruits a kid in.
You have a man who's very awake consciously, having a great time with his girlfriend and just
taken out of his body and something comes into his body to replace him. And while he's out of his
body, he has this experience of a recruitment. So you have two different situations here. You have one where a
kid goes to sleep, lucid dream, recruited. Then you have another guy who is awake, having sex, taken,
recruited. And now you have this situation where kids are going into a trans playing this game,
yellow door, red door, whatever, whatever. And they're encountering the man in the
the suit. Yeah. I mean, isn't that the same as the
cross, the guy at the crossroads, like the old jazz lure
where like the devil met me at the crossroads. And so they make a deal with a man in a
suit. Like that is like, there's a huge lure to like all the... Is that a description
for that where it's a man in a suit that they're making a deal with? Yeah. It's almost
always, I think, a man in a suit. Yeah. So I don't remember,
and I know you're doing stuff over there, Jack, but if you have a moment to pull the
transcript for episode 693 and 692,
and just search the word purple.
Because I feel like, so 692, the man recruits the kid,
but also within the same sphere of this story,
the guy telling me this story has a brother who is also recruited.
So he's telling me the story about his friend
and this whole thing, which is the main story.
But he also had a brother who was recruited,
but in a very different way.
and that entity was identified as the ancient god ball and uh and i've met i've met his brother
his ball's sigil tattooed on his back shoulder um but i think it was described and maybe this is
my my bad memory but i feel like it was described as a purple suit that that this man was wearing
and i know jack's looking but i have a different red of post and it actually says a man in a dark suit
equals end the game. So black or purple would both be dark suits. Yeah. What were you going to say,
Jack? No, I'm not able to find anything right now. I'm trying to actually figure out anyway.
Yeah. Well, I mean, if you were to go to the YouTube video and you're on that computer, so there should be
a transcript summary on the right hand side, at least for 692. I think for the member episodes,
which was 693, I think, I don't know if it actually transcribes because it's technically a private
video. But do you think this is like an area of the subconscious or is this more of an area of
like going into like an astral plane? I think it's like that. Yeah, I think as you're going into
another realm, another plane of existence, I don't think you're, I think you're, you're not in
Kansas anymore, you know? And it's, what is it from there? I don't know. Is it, because I go back
and forth with a lot of this stuff. Like, is it all second heaven?
You know, I think to describe it all as Second Heaven is easier.
Yeah.
The Second Heaven have different rooms, you know?
Like I think I talked to Joseph and Franco when he was here about what the autistic kids were experiencing with Jesus.
They were having this experience where they're being taken somewhere and they're interacting with Jesus.
And they're all having this experience.
And they say that sometimes people show up there that.
shouldn't be there. What do you make of that? How is that even possible? And I started exploring. I
think he, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I do feel like he felt a little uncomfortable
with where I was taking the conversation. Sure. But could it be that that was a human agent
that was sent by dark forces? Could have been somebody who was doing national projection and stumbled
their way there. There's a lot of different things there. But he talks about how he, the way he views
the hill where these kids are going,
these non-speaking autistic kids,
it's like a suburb of heaven is how he views it.
It's not theological, but it's,
none of this has a real theological framework at times.
Sure.
And so I suggested that could it be in a similar way,
like second heaven is like this giant mansion,
and there's different rooms.
And within these different rooms,
rooms are different experiences, different kingdoms. Like, I don't know. I do believe that
these fallen angels, these fallen entities are, they're always at war with God, but they're also
competing with one another. And so could it be that you're actually, like, people are experiencing
different entities, recruiting them to work for them within their own little kingdom, their own
little section and corner of this larger scale realm.
You know, I don't know.
Do you think this game could be set up to actually recruit people?
I don't know if it's set up, but it's, it could be used.
It's like, okay, so if you're going to, if you kids are going to be coming here, guess who's
going to be showing up, you know, because the enemy is always seeking to devour.
And so it will, it will use any door possible open.
Absolutely.
And just like how Nathaniel Gillis talked about the snake and how the snake, there's this type of snake that has a tail that looks like a bug.
And somewhere along the lines, the snake learned that if it moves its tail a certain way, it looks like a bug to birds.
And it will basically call in birds and then devour the bird.
So could it be a similar thing where
Different faces, but essentially you think you're willfully going into this other realm playing this game when reality the game itself is calling you
What are you going to say?
Go ahead, Jack, first.
Okay, because it's relevant to what you're talking about.
Okay.
So who was it that we had on that was talking about a dream that they had of a woman in a red dress?
and he would walk by them
and it happened twice or three times
where it was like
then it morphed the next time
into something that was
you know massive and
yeah I heard that
it was that same like cloaking
not cloaking but like
play it as though it is something else
rather than what it is masquerade
thank you yeah anyway
what were you going to say oh yeah no it's just interesting
that with the recruiting angle
I'm on a different Reddit post about this game
And then the first comment is that they played the game
and they met the man in black.
And then she like, they were so freaked out.
She got woken up.
But then she has a dream about the same entity that night.
And the black man in the suit was trying to have her play the game again.
So she's consciously, she goes into the trance.
She has this experience where she sees the man dressed in a suit.
comes out of the trance
that night has a dream
about the man trying to bring her back in
the man in the suit is in her dream trying to tell her
to come back and play the game again
interesting
I mean and like
did she describe her experience
as something that was terrifying
before she went to sleep
like did she have a bad experience in the trance
uh
yeah yeah she says she was pretty horrified
uh going through this experience
um
Yeah, man, I don't know.
It's really strange.
And I think is there a correlation to this being like people being lured in to have these encounters intentionally?
And then obviously maybe an aspect of demonization that it's occurring during this process with them.
Kind of like the JR moment.
Yeah.
I'm trying to do a transcript search real quick and it's not working.
So I was trying to find the red dress.
The red dress.
You remember that though?
I vaguely remember, but mentally I keep going to The Matrix, the woman in the red dress.
That's fair.
That's where my mind went to.
But yeah, so I mean, and now I lost my train and thought, what did you just say?
This girl was having the recruitment after the dream.
Yeah.
So even in the dream, the same entity shows up in her dreams.
Right.
Yeah.
And then telling her to play the game again.
And so he was telling her to play the game again?
Yeah, like very forcefully trying to.
tell her to play the game again. Wow. Yeah, see, and that's the thing. I mean, you just don't know
what doors you're opening up. And once you open that door, how do you close it? You know,
it's not as simple as, oh, I'll just come out of the trance. I mean, when you look at stories like
a hunter from, I think it's like, what, episode 510 or something, he has this very lucid dream
about a dogman. And it attacks him. And he wakes up. He has scratches on his back. And he's like,
oh, that was a bad dream. I must scratch myself a month later.
that very, very creature that he saw in his dreams
was standing before him and his son
in the middle of the Tennessee woods.
Like, and I'm not even saying he opened a door,
but a door was open.
Yeah.
And once a door is open,
I don't think it's as easy as just waking up and it's over.
It's interesting because it kind of moves into the aspect
or the thought pattern of like allowance.
Like, because you're playing this game
and then you are willfully choosing to walk through the door,
yeah.
All of a sudden is that now an allowance
that is being allowed for the enemy to then come.
as you go into their space, essentially.
I mean, yeah, an allowance and you're marked.
I mean, there's just so much to it.
Jack, could we pull up the video that I sent you,
the Marcus Rogers video, and I want to play,
because I think we could have found a bunch of clips
of people playing this, but he had a compilation video
on his channel, and so I just want to play it from there,
and hopefully he doesn't.
ding me.
Okay.
We'll be all right.
Marcus Rogers,
don't,
don't hurt my channel.
Go ahead.
Hit play on that thing.
Red door,
yellow door,
any other colored door.
Red door,
yellow door,
any other color door.
Wait on.
Bro.
Awesome.
Go back.
Go back to that last one.
You can hit play there for a second.
Actually,
don't play.
Can you make the screen
more theatrical?
more theatrical so you get that bar off the side there, Jack, of all the other videos.
Yeah.
That way it's bigger, so one I can see it.
And then also, yeah, there you go.
Thank you.
So you can see here how the arms up in the air.
So they must have just started this.
This person isn't seeing doors yet because once you see doors, you're supposed to put your arm down.
And that girl is the one that's going to be doing the guiding.
So hit play again, Jack, and have a quick finger to hit pause.
Door, yellow door, any other colored door.
Wake off.
Right there.
So this guy here
it seems to be fitting
the description of number eight
in an emergency
if you're unable to wake up,
it may be necessary
for the guy to shake you roughly
until you awaken.
And also, was it number five?
If you become trapped in a room,
you have to try to wake up
or you will be trapped in the transfer ever.
They say if you die in the game,
you could also die in real life.
So like that,
this thing you're looking at
here, it seems like it's one of those more dire situations. Friends not waking up.
Try to pause on his face when it gets to his face. Happy.
Right there. Oh, so close. So close. Just pull it back. You can see his eyes are rolled back in his
head. You just see the whites of his eyes. And he's trying to shake his friend awake and he's not
waking up. I mean, that's, I don't know. I mean, Derek,
if your kids were doing this, would you be concerned?
This is going to sound a little weird.
We've just been talking about this,
and I honestly felt like something touched my leg.
Really?
Yeah, just like a few minutes ago.
And so, like, I think there's definitely something weird.
And then I, like, went back and rubbed,
and then I just felt a chair.
So it was something that wasn't a metallic chair
that touched my leg.
Right now.
Just a few minutes ago, yeah.
What was I saying?
We were talking about the men and black entity.
Hmm.
Oh, speaking of, that's where my,
distraction came from. Jack, you text us of something about men and black and I totally sidetracked.
Didn't you text us something about men and black during this broadcast? No, it was Joel.
Oh, Joel. Isn't that weird then? Yeah. But yeah, no, it's very strange, man. I don't think this is like,
Joel, go ahead. I see now. So Joel text us said, men in black always come in threes. Who am I actually
working for? And he said a picture of the thumbnail image. That's so funny. I knew so. I knew so.
somebody would complain about it, but I didn't expect Joel to complain about it.
Anyways, what were you saying? I'm sorry.
No, I, like, so even, like, from the beginning of all this, like, the way the styling of all this is,
the way the trancing is, it's definitely either, like, to group meditation practice.
I'm sure this is, like, originated from somewhere very nefarious, and the intent is to
summon these beings within our realm and our sphere, you know, and, um, and, um, and, um,
Yeah, it's pretty strange stuff, man.
So you have teenagers.
They haven't said anything about this?
I haven't heard.
We monitor what they watch a lot, so, or what they play on their phones.
So nothing too crazy with this yet, but I hope not.
Hopefully not.
I hope not.
And if you're going to the eye rolling, I mean, like, that's insane.
I mean, that's what you, to me, my first thought is like demonic possession or oppression,
like things like that where like these entities are like overcoming someone.
Yeah.
in their will. So, uh, wild, wild stuff.
Bring me back to the, the video, Jack. Um, let's keep playing this.
Red door, yellow door in the other color door.
I convinced my little cousin to play the cursed red door yellow door.
Uh, this one here, I think is, it, it kind of gets a little
nerve-wracking as a parent to, to see a little girl's reaction. Uh, but the, the previous one,
that girl that came out, I think it was a girl, that kid that came out of a
trans looked terrified.
Like, absolutely terrified.
Can we go back to that one again, Jack, real quick?
Because I'm trying to see if they were chanting and the kid came out or if they were
trying to wake up.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
So that's crazy because they're chanting.
So the chanting means that they're trying to get the kid to the into the trance to the
doors.
Then that kid's eyes rolls back, starts shaking.
and then the kid wakes up screaming with that face.
So literally that kid probably followed one of those rules of which one was it.
Basically, if you feel uncomfortable, get out of there, right?
And so I'm talking to two guys who are looking at two different screens here.
I need somebody to talk to me.
I'm so sorry.
Help me out, guys.
I'm connecting things, yeah.
Okay.
Help me here because I'm trying to talk.
You're just like, uh-huh.
Yeah.
I'm like, okay, great reaction.
Well, I didn't even hear it.
I know you're over there producing.
Derek's on his phone looking at something.
I know you're looking stuff up.
Yeah.
Anyways, that should be terrifying.
That should be absolutely terrifying for any parent to see.
Go ahead and bring it back up, Jack, and keep it going.
Now you can do whatever you're doing your phone, Derek.
I convinced my little cousin to play the cursed red door yellow door game with me.
There's like blood.
There's like blood all over it.
Poppin.
I saw a guy.
Are you okay?
Okay, we're done, we're done, you're good.
So pause it.
That, I mean, that's, I mean, I don't have anything to touch my legs, but my legs have
shivers right now.
Because, I mean...
I do choose the subject because you don't want to talk about it.
As a parent, that's concerning.
And you can see the other girl, you can tell that these kids think it's a game.
They think it's a game.
She's laughing.
Oh, my gosh, you know, it's okay, it's fine.
and she's laughing, it's over. It ain't over. It ain't over. And the way that girl reacted tells me
that there seemed to have been a bleed between the two realities, because the way she popped up
looking at the window, it was like she, it's like she saw somebody at the window, but we saw
what the window was, and there was nothing there. It was almost like there was this bleed of the
realities. But she says, there's a man. And if you could go, Jack, to the beginning of that video,
because she said something about blood.
I don't know she said there's blood
or if there's blood on the door.
I don't recall exactly what she said.
But in these rules of operation
when it comes to this game,
I don't read anywhere about blood.
Did you, Derek?
No, I didn't read anything about blood.
Okay. Jack, pull that video up for me
so I can see it.
And I want to see how this goes again.
Just play the whole thing again.
Yeah.
But there's like blood
Go back
There's like blood
But there's like blood all over it
There's like blood all over
Did the kids say it?
Yeah like blood all over it
So maybe the door
Like there's blood all over the door
And then the kid pops up
There was a man
Like that's
That's not good guys
No
That bad
That real bad
Pull that video back up
Let's keep going through it
Popin
I saw a guy
Are you okay?
Okay, we're done, we're done, you're good.
Go.
Red door, yellow door, any other color door.
You see the orbs?
Red door, yellow door, any other color door.
Red door, yellow door, and other color.
Red door, yellow door, any other color door.
Red door, yellow door, any other color door.
Ow! See no damn doors?
Shut!
It's just a game until it's not.
A girl under the user G-D
Why don't you keep going?
Oh, because I wasn't sure if that was like actually worthwhile.
Of her and her friends playing the red door, yellow door game.
Go down the hallway.
There's a light thing in the good candle.
Go towards the light.
The game's purpose is to go into a mental transatlantic state and try to find a red and yellow door,
similar to something like the movie. Talk to me.
Do you see anything?
There's two doors on each side of the hallway.
In the video, the girl describes.
a hallway and in the hallway she sees the light.
The friend asks her to follow the light in the hallway to what she does.
What color are they?
What is the red and how do you feel about that?
All right.
I'm talking, talking, talking.
Well, that's why I was like, we should probably stop a little bit so we can talk.
Jack's saying, do you want to get dinged?
Talk.
I'm just watching.
I'm interested in this.
I'm just sitting here looking.
So the last video that you saw the girl, the kid, I can't tell in these videos,
but the kid has their arms up and you see all those orbs flying around and stuff.
Like, again, that's a sign right there that you're entering into some kind of supernatural realm
and you're playing with things that you probably shouldn't be touching.
So that's the red door, yellow door.
Let me see here if I got anything else.
I don't think I have anything else here.
There, do you have anything before we start bringing in for a landing?
Yeah, well, just like there's other entities.
There's the Victorian lady that in my thing,
that they said that you're supposed to also beware of her elderly woman in a Victorian dress.
And then the mantra, the chant, using three times you use Dora in the chant,
that that's very much like part of the esoteric, like occult side of things.
It's always in threes.
Interesting.
Yeah, I just, I think.
I think parents should be aware of this, and I haven't talked to my kids about it, but hopefully I don't have to.
Because I think the only time I'm going to have to talk to my kids about is if they come home talking about the red door, yellow door game.
Absolutely.
And I'm hoping that I don't have to handle it because that's no good.
Now, I think it's important to just for parents to be aware of what's going on.
and I'm not telling people how to parent, you know,
but just keep an eye on your kids.
And, you know, we've all done stupid stuff as kids.
Like I was talking about before,
how I was getting my friends to make me pass out
and then kicking me in the nuts to wake me up in middle school.
So which is probably a big reason of why I'm the way I am today.
So I never got that circulation back in either locations.
But, uh,
Anyways, if nobody else has anything, let's bring it in for landing, because we have a guest coming in here in about 20 minutes we got to get ready for.
But, guys, I appreciate you being here.
And did you mention, yeah, you did mention about memberships.
If you want extra episodes, you want cool stuff like this, become a member, hit the join button.
So with that said, let's get out of here, Jacko.
God with me whole squad going devil try to throw shade
Eye grin cause the light too bright
Walking the spotlight who that
Standing in the slang and the truce lap
Never in the way we moved dad
All my name for the hit like a du wreck
I was stuck in the valley that view bad
Now I'm up in the hills with a food bag
God took all my elves ran through that
Now the wind stack high like a new stack
Every step with the light that's a blueprint
Whole pack getting bright cause he doing it
He the king saw the crown got a new fidd
And the cross hit harder than a new clip
We ain't here just about it's a movement
Every giant in the way he'll move it
If the world when I hate, we cool with it because the love is strong.
To the tree life, boom, came in snow.
God with me, whole squad going and devil try to fight too bright.
I've been down in the dirt now I'm cleaned up.
Blood bought brand new, never dreamed up.
Every thrown out of stone trying to team up, got 50,000 standing here feeling beamed up.
I remember them nice in the struggle, feeling way down deep by the trouble.
But he showed up strong bro the muzzle.
Now the faith built bit like a double.
We ain't here for the frame of the flash.
We just point to the king, let him flash.
Living water in the cup, no cap, no cap, well, don't run dry, that's that fax.
Now we run another pat with a show step.
Every loss is a set up for the best yet.
Every giant in my face is a test bit.
Got swing once.
It's like, boom, boom, can't miss snow.
Gone wind, never trick me like,
