The Confessionals - The Hidden Industry Preying on the Vulnerable | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

Human trafficking is not a distant problem; it is a global industry operating in plain sight in 2026. We explore how modern trafficking networks function today, the role technology plays in recruitment and exploitation, and why the crime is often harder to detect than people realize. We break down common myths, warning signs, and the systemic factors that allow exploitation to continue. This conversation is about awareness, prevention, and understanding the real mechanisms behind one of the darkest markets in the world.Donate to fight Child Trafficking at:https://aidforgood.com/g/troybrewerministries/https://odx.tv/https://answerinternational.org/Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Become a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Big Picture Prophecy Conference: prophecyconference26.comTony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMy NEW Website: tonymerkel.comMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesBigfoot: The Journey To Belief: Stream HereThe Meadow Project: Stream HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jack_theproducer

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Welcome to Slingshot Nation Live, everybody. A Monday morning edition. We were just live with you last Thursday. and we like you so much. We decided to show up early again. Hope everybody's doing well. Today we got Derek here in studio. Derek, how you doing, sir?

We're doing great today. We're excited. And we got Jack pushing the buttons over there, Jack. You doing? Hey, everybody. I'm good. You're good? Yeah, I'm great.

Awesome, man. How's everybody's weekend? Very good. Busy. Right answers only, you know? Like, we were all together all weekend long out of town. So if it was a bad weekend, better not tell me. That's fair.

Very fair. Oh, man. So last Thursday, we went live. We had our first. studio guests last Thursday because of our inability to not overbook our schedule. And so, like, we just, we're like, we were scratching our heads, trying to figure out how we were going to manage things. And we just decided, you know what, I think we're going to do our first in studio guest. Here's the thing, guys. That was last Thursday. And our overbooking the schedule trend

is a trend. So, well, we continue to do that trend. And so today in studio, we have another guess because we book our schedule so much that we got to find time to do things. So we do them together. Here in studio, we got ourselves, I guess. Ben Brewer, how you doing, man? I'm doing mighty fine, brother. Tell people who you are because they have not seen you on my show yet. That episode hasn't aired. So they don't actually know who you are. So tell them who's son are you. I am the son of Troy Allen Brewer. He is the man known for being the guy that rescues kids all over the world and I am one lucky few that gets go travel with them. Yeah, man. Yeah, so I'm glad you're here. We booked you to come up here for something totally different. And I was like, oh, crap, we got Ben in

studio Monday and we need to do a live on Monday because we're out of town all week. I guess we're doing another live with Ben. Let's go. I'm in. So I'm glad you're here. Listen, this past weekend, I can't get into a whole lot. I will eventually. At some point, I believe I'll be. able to give more details as to what's going on. But we traveled out of town and accomplished a lot of stuff. We gathered a lot of intel, a lot of information on things that are happening in today's world and what is coming. And I would say this way. I was one of the people that we were meeting with this past weekend. We had this group meeting. And that person continued to look at me and when that person was addressing other people in the room, he addressed them by

titles, kept calling me a watchman. And it was just interesting because I've never met the guy in person my entire life. And I had been feeling a sense of being a watchman since the turn of 2026. We did that first show of the year. And I was kind of trying to describe people like, what I feel is coming. And I even use the analogy of, you know, I'm like standing on the wall looking out over the battlefield and I can see the enemy coming and I'm just sounding the alarm kind of thing. And when he started to call me watchman several times, I was like, hmm, that's interesting,

you know, because that's kind of how I feel. So with that said, the intel and information we gathered will be relayed in the appropriate fashion as time goes on. but I do want to just tell people there is an extreme sense of urgency to get your life right with the Lord and also to yourself be a watchman and stand guard, read the times that you're living in, and there's going to be a lot of confusion and things unfolding, but you will be a target of that of that confusion, as will I and everybody else. And it's important to, in the midst of that confusion, always remember the main goal of life and existence itself. And there's going to be a lot

of distractions trying to pull you away from your personal acknowledgement of Jesus Christ, but also the great commission of telling the world about Christ. And it's going to be a very large mental brain exercise for people, I think. And Matthew 24 has been heavy on my heart over the weekend. And I think it's because we might be getting to the point where the shortening of time, maybe. I don't know. So anyways, I wasn't even planning on saying that. So next time, Derek, go, eh, eh, that's not direction we're going. Yeah, that's good. It all fits. I suppose it does. But anyways, I want to talk about one of the things coming, I think, is actually topically,

just came out this weekend. Wasn't the president of the United States, but it was a past president talking aliens. Barack Obama couldn't say it apparently when he was president, but now all of a sudden he feels like he can say. it and he says that aliens are real. I just find a very interesting how he comes out saying it now when the F-scene files are dropping and all the bad press is happening. And it's that typical thing, man. They're like, oh, bad press. Aliens? Has anybody ever heard of aliens? Might I say? aliens.

They've definitely done that before though, right? Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush are the two that come to mind where they've talked about UFOs and aliens after they've left their seat in the White House. Yeah. Like it's just, it's common. Yeah, it's definitely common, but it's also timely. Are you saying it's common as in it's not timely or what?

I'm just saying like they, I feel like whether it's timely or they do it to cover up other things, but like they say it after the, presence. They never seem to say wilder presence. But with this one, it's like Obama's been talked about the last couple weeks heavily with not so good things. And so understandably, he might want to do his own distractions. Go ahead and pull that video up, Jack, and let people hear what he had to say. It wasn't very long. Do we know what the podcast it was? I have no clue. Okay. Are aliens real? They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept in, what is it?

Area 51. There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy, and they hit it from the president of the United States. What was the first question you want to answer? They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept in, what is it? Area 51. There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy, and they hit it from the president of the United States. What was the first?

Okay, so he's like, all right, so he says things here where it's like, okay, they're real, but I never seen him. So let's see if we can count how many trues and lies are there. Okay, real quick. Yeah. He is pulling something out of the movie Independence Day. Whenever the president finally finds out the area 51 is real and the aliens are real, the guy, I think it was the ministerial defense director, whatever it was. He's like, Mr. President, we didn't tell you for plausible deniability.

That's what he's pulling that from. That's Independence Day all over again. Come on, guys. I think we might be seeing Independence Day play out more and more as we go through time here. So they're real. I've never seen him. Do we believe that if they're real, he never saw him? No.

Like, if they're real and he knows they're real because he's been debriefed, then I imagine he would have seen him. Yeah. You know, at that point, it's the need to know. They're real. Okay. Let me see him, you know. But it's like he follows that up with an even bigger lie.

There's no underground thing. What are you talking about, bro? Oh, yeah. Like, what are you talking about? Did he say there's no underground? How do you say? No underground bases? Is that what he said?

I don't recall. If you could pull that up again. I want to hear what he says about the bases if you can. I'm throwing a curb ball on Jack. So he already Xed out of the tab, maybe. They're real, but I haven't seen him. And they're not being kept in, what is it? Area 51.

Area 51. There's no underground facility. He says, so he said there's no underground facility. Liar. Yeah. Liar. So, like, you can go down the conspiracies of, you know, like, I don't know, Shayan Mountain and things like that. You'd be like, oh, well, you know, can't really say this, that, or the other.

Well, actually, no, Shia Mountain is a documented military facility. Let's use the What's the airport? The Denver Airport as the example. You know, like you could say, oh, there's no tunnels right there. You know, that's a conspiracy. But we do know that there are underground facilities.

100%. I always bring it up because it was in my backyard, essentially in Pennsylvania, Raven Rock. It's like you can go on Google Maps right now. Look up Raven Rock. And all it is is a couple big holes in the ground where big vehicles drive into. And the whole mountain's zoned off, right?

Yeah. It's all cleared out. You can't just go around it at all. Camp David, you know, like they say that Raven Rock connects to Camp David underground. It's not hard to believe, you know? It just, it doesn't make any sense. So to me it feels like somebody who is just bringing some things out to muddy waters to kind of loosen the color. I'll come back eventually and be like, oh, I misspoke because that's one of his favorite sayings is, oh, I misspoke.

is, oh, I misspoke. Yeah. Which drives me crazy because, I mean, we all know there's different underground tunnels. There's different underground cities, blah, blah, blah, blah. Take Las Vegas, for instance. There's a whole community underneath Las Vegas that they call the homeless city. Yeah. Because there's just thousands upon thousands of people living in the tunnels underneath Las Vegas.

They call them the mole people, I think. Yep. They only come out basically to get supplies at night or when there's a flood and they need to get out of those tunnels because the tunnels were meant for, like, water to sift the water through. the area responsible. Drainage, thank you. And people lived down, I remember seeing this one woman,

I think it was a woman, she said she was living down there for nine years. I mean, can you imagine, like, I mean, and the amount of chaos that can happen down there

with bad actors, you know, the trafficking thing that probably happens with that. 100%. It's crazy. Crazy. And the part at the end, where he's like, oh, there's no one over, or there's someone over us.

Like, I don't know. Like, it's like everything he's like denying is you just bringing credibility to me. It's like. Yeah. But I just found it interesting and given some of intel that we've been discussing this past weekend, I found it it was interesting timing. Also, the scientists are now talking about dreams. And so we talked about Obama and the aliens and them being real.

I mean, I just found it interesting. It seems like a smokescreen. But the scientists coming out claiming that your dreams are actually another reality, I find very interesting. And if Jack could pull that post up, I want, Derek, if you can go through that post with people, because we've already learned our lesson from me trying to read long. Standard Post live on the air. I think what's really interesting, too, is that we're getting to this point

where they are clearly making it obvious that things that we thought were not real, this realm of the unknown, and they're bringing so much credibility to it now with science, that they're definitely setting all this up for the future where, you know, all of a sudden,

like, oh, no, that is real. And, oh, no, this is real. And we continually see, like, these little pieces fall, because this is the end game, right? is to get everyone to understand that this stuff is really true. So, all right, I'll read. Scientists and researchers exploring consciousness suggests that dreams may not be random mental noise,

but experiences taking place in a parallel layer of reality. The idea comes from theories around quantum consciousness and the multiverse, which propose that awareness may temporarily shift states while the body sleeps. During dreams, the brain reduces sensory images, input from the physical world while dramatically increasing internal perception, making the experience feel vivid, structured, and emotionally real. Some physicists and neuroscientists point to how the brain creates fully immersive environments with consistent rules, characters, and timelines and dreams. These worlds can feel just as stable as waking life, which raises the question of whether

consciousness is tuning into an already existing reality rather than inventing one from scratch. So just stop there for a second. That is, in my perspective, 100% happening. And I just find it interesting how, I mean, like, I've been, it's kind of, it's kind of crazy. Like this year, once January hit, I hit nine years of this show being around. And I'm like, man, I'm working on my last year before it's been a decade. Like I'm coming up on a decade. You know, that's crazy. And like, there's, there's kids that used to start listening to me when I first started. They're now are adults, you know? And it's just, it's kind of crazy. But, you know, in the process of this show, when we first started, there was people who would talk to, when I talked to me about dreams.

And I'll be honest with you, I just had no interest in talking to people about their dreams. I'm like, why do I talk about your dreams? Dreams aren't reality, you know? I wasn't looking at it through a biblical lens at all. And then slowly but surely there's people kind of popping up my radar and things like that. And I started learning more and more about how real the dream realm is. And then I started realizing that I have somebody in my house, my wife, who has been for years describing her dreams to me.

And all of a sudden, like, hold on a second. I think there might be something to this. I might have been sleeping with her for the last 20 years, you know? And I was just like, oh, my gosh. So the reality is that the dream realm, this is according to the confessionals, people's, the witnesses, that perspective, not scientific. Like anybody tuning in knows, if you're tuning it for the first time, I'm not your science guy, so untune if that's what you're looking for.

But people have been describing these dreams and sometimes there's a bleed over to, from the dream realm to this reality, which that is what crossed me over to, okay, dreams aren't just, you know, figments of your imagination. And I remember one of the first times that I realized that was I had a guy who, Home Depot was calling. me. Put that to voicemail. Live on, should I answer it? Live on the show. They're like, Mr. Merkel, your toilets are ready. That's what they're calling me for.

They're like, when are you going to pick these things up? But the reality is that people, this guy, he contacted me, he's a pastor out in Middle Tennessee. And he had a terrifying dream one night where a werewolf, dogman, was in it and it was getting ready to attack his family. He intervened and it started like basically tearing him to shreds. He wakes up with cuts on his back and you're like, you know, the logical mind could say, oh, well, he did that himself. But he shows it to his wife. She sees the cuts. And then about a

month later, that very creature that he dreamed about him and his son came, his, I think at the time his son was 11 came across that creature in the woods here in Tennessee. And I don't remember all the details of the story perfectly. Jack can put the episode number and title on the screen for people and maybe even say it once you remember because I don't remember what it's called or the episode number, Jack. But that came out and the idea that something shifted and came over to this realm, this reality, this thing, it didn't like try to hurt him, but it seemed like it escorted them out of the woods. And so there's this, there's this weird thing with all this.

But that was where it's like, okay, so how did something that you dreamt about cross over, you know? And I had a hard time wrapping my mind around it. But the more I started coming to understand that there's this overlaying of reality that we know it and the spiritual realm. And it's like, it's not like this, you know, it's not like if I want to go to the second heaven, I got to find that that portal tunnel that shoots me up into the second heaven realm. And it's like a different, it's like they're different layers, but they mirror and they're kind of on top of each other. And things can bleed through that know how to.

But I mean, I've heard stories of people bringing physical objects back, like books. And so for me, this whole article, and I'll let you finish reading, because I'll just just cut you off and stuff, but I, I, I, um, I feel like science is, it's starting to catch up to people's experiences. And what concerns me with that is the amount of, and it's going to be a lot, a lot amount of people in the future who will see people, hear people tell their, their testimonies. And through science, they're going to normalize it. And I don't think it's a very healthy thing to do. I think there's a lot of people who are living in danger because of what's going on in the dream realm. And if science is normalizing it, nobody's going to want to pay them

an ear because it's just, it's just natural. It's a natural phenomenon because science was able to prove it. And I just, I'm an enemy of science, you know? So me and science don't get along. Do you guys anything to say? I just thought it's interesting. This is during dreams, the brain reduces sensory input from the physical world. I mean, like, that's like deprivation tanks. Like, that's the whole point of those aspects where like they're pushing into the astral, you know, doing astral projection. Like, it's all about like deprivation to your sensory so that you can increase this. So they're basically admitting at the same time, like this is a stage of that when you're in deep R.E. Wait, they said that in there and here?

Yeah. Well, it says during dreams, the brain reduces sensory input from the physical world while dramatically increasing internal perception, making the experience feel vivid, structured and emotionally real. Yeah. So, I mean, what you're, what you just described and stuff is kind of like, uh, how. they, how they theatrically showed us with stranger things. You know, you put L in a tank and that whole, that whole

process and it shifts her, you know. And so I, you know, I've said it a million times, but like shows like that are really just depicting reality. Well, that and they're trying to normalize it too. Very much. If they show you, if Hollywood shows you something, more than likely it's because it's about to come out.

So again, stranger things came out at a very convenient time now that a few years later, all of a sudden we're talking about dreams being real and how people can actually astro project out of their dreams into a different scape. Yeah. It's wild. It's wow.

Yeah. Have you ever tried it? I have not. To be honest, the entire idea is terrifies me. Yeah, same. Because I've heard, so we have a ministry in our church

that actually depicts dreams and interprets them, so to speak. I mean, sometimes there's just what we call pizza dreams where it's just a weird dream. It doesn't make any sense. That happens a lot is what it is.

But there's sometimes, like, I'll give you, for instance, There was a few weeks ago, or last week actually, I was in Columbia. And I woke up in the middle of the night. And in my dream, I woke up from a dream middle night, I should say, in my dream, my dad, I was talking to my dad, which my dad's not normally in my dreams. So that was kind of weird.

I was like, okay, whatever. But we were talking about this certain person. He's like, hey, man, I want you to wake up right now. And I want you to pray for him. I was like, I'm awake. Why would I wake up? And then all of a sudden, it snapped out of it. I was like, well, that's weird.

So it's four o'clock in the morning, something like that. And I text the guy. I'm an hour, hour ahead of them at the time. And so I texted him for later. And so I went out at like 8 o'clock or whatever. I was like, hey, man, I just spoke up from a weird dream. I just want to tell you I'm praying for you and I love you and know what's going on. But just want to know, I'm here for you.

You're like, dude, today's my birthday. And I'm having a really rough day. You don't know what that means to me. Something as simple as that I could just push off me like, oh, yeah, whatever. Cool, it was a dream. Maybe God was just speaking to me. But to me, dreams are way more than that. that there's something that not only God uses to talk to us and speak through us or speak through

them to us about what's going on in the future, what's going on, and the present was going on in the past. It's also something that the enemy can use to as a portal to get into your mind at the time, knowing that at your weakest is when you're asleep because you can't defend yourself. Yeah. So they use that a lot against us. But however, what the evil or what the devil is used for evil, God uses for good. And in a greater way, does it use them for good. So I think that if we find a good way to tap into that power and use it for the kingdom, that could be something extraordinary for the entire world.

Wow. That's a great point. What do you mean by tap into that? I just want to expound on that because that's interesting. So the Bible talks about tons of different translations of dreams and of visions and stuff like that. It even talks about how your young men will dream dreams and your old men will see visions. I'm sorry, it's the other way around. Your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams.

visions can happen if you're awake or asleep. It's what my dad calls a supernatural flash card. So like you're sitting there and let's say me and you're talking, all of a sudden I have a vision of, let's say, you're in the desert and you find this thing of water. That can mean a whole bunch of different things. It could mean that God, that you're in a place right now where it's really hard for you to be,

but God's giving you a lifeline and is keeping you away or keeping you away from something. So you're in the wilderness, but he's bringing you to an oasis in the wilderness. And he's going to keep you out of all these things. Okay. However, if I have a dream, dreams are typically a lot more depictive. So you have a lot more time in the dream room. And so let's say in the vision, I just saw that. But if I was dreaming it, I would know the smell. I would know the feeling of the heat of the desert. I would know the color of your clothes. I would know a lot more. So it's something you can actually dive deeper into because you have a lot more time to process what it is. So I think, just like King David said, I put you before me. and everything I do. I think truly if we push God and we ask God to reveal more about our dreams and more about our visions that we're having,

that that's us tapping into something that he's trying to give to us. Yeah. No, I love that. And that's like the layers with the whole dream stuff. I mean, when you can get past the idea that it's just a dream, like I'm pretty sure at you and I, and I could probably throw you into that, but I don't want to put you in this awkward position.

But I mean, I'm not scared. Like, I refuse to tell my kids it's just a dream. I want to hear what your dream is first before I tell you it's just a dream. Like, Ben comes in and he'll be like, you know, I had a bad dream and I don't know, just think of something kind of silly. But I need to know what that dream was

so I can get the full context to understand if there's anything in there that I need to decide, discern for him. And did I tell his most recent dream about the white fence on the live show recently? Yeah.

Okay, cool. So I'll refrain from doing that. But it just happened recently. And on the surface, you know, it just seems, even with the way, what he told with the dream,

it was just, there was no danger outside of the fact that he knew when he woke up, it was turning into a bad dream and he woke himself up. But being able to hear it, and knowing the prayers that we had the night before,

I could see spiritually what was going on. And we had kicked off our property, demonic entities, and they were seeking permission to come back in, and they tricked my son to do it. And so, like, dreams have a great significance. And I would encourage people to not take them so lightly. Like you said, a pizza dream. that happens for everybody.

For me, I don't even remember my dreams. I don't even know if I have... I might not have good dreams or not. I don't know. But Jack, if you were about to say something, I want you to go ahead. But before you say whatever you're about to say, could you tell people the episode title?

I saw you put up on the screen, but there was also... Oh, yeah. The first one was like 500-something, if you could look out. His first one? Yeah. Because that's the one...

I can't remember it's 5-10 or 5-12, but that was the one where he had... I called it an interdimensional dogman or something like that. Because I didn't know what they'd call it. I was like, this is so wild. I believe you. Dogman interdimensional portals. Yeah, terrible title name.

Dog man. I was like, how can I tell me what this is about in three words? But anyways, so what was it again, 5'10? So, yeah, it was episode 510 was the first one that Hunter was on, which was Dogman Interdimensional Portals. And then the second one was a member's episode that was, it's on the screen. Green episode 632 echoes of Nephlin bloodlines. That's the one that he shared the dream on.

Oh yeah, it's the one that he astro projected to my house by accident. Did I share the dream I had? You know, you would understand. Actually, I would. More than I like to admit. Jack, did I share the dream I had on the live? Which one? The red hand.

Oh, coming through and you were fighting. I don't think you did. Okay, so like I had a dream like two weeks ago. And almost a sudden I'm dreaming me and my wife are in bed sleeping. And then I see a red hand start like, creeping through the wall, I grabbed the hand, pull it out, and it was like a red demon. It was at the side of my bed, and I just start beating the crap out of it. It looks at me, he's like, oh, I'm screwed.

So he goes to hop through the wall. Before it leaves, I end up saying, like, what's your name? And it goes, Santa Ria. And so I wake up for my dream. And I'm like, that is so crazy. Like, I don't have any, like, ties to Santa Ria. Like, I'm not Hispanic, but I'm not that kind of Hispanic, you know? And we just met this Puerto Rican guy.

through the family friends and stuff. And he goes, it's for him. And so I literally text him, like, how crazy is I? I had this wild dream about beating up a demon. He said his name was Santorea and the Lord told me it was for you. And he's like, holy cow, my dad was like possessed by a spirit enduring a Santeria ritual and I saw it. And he's like, I think that's affecting me now.

And I'm like, that is wild. How the Lord spoke to me through this like crazy dream. Yeah. And, but it's not just that the Lord spoke through you through a crazy dream. like you were tasked then with a personal relationship with him where I think it's ongoing. Yeah. You're kind of walking him and his family through deliverance. Yeah.

And so it's like, you know, a dream that happens to him, the Holy Spirit tells him who's it for. And then it leads to, I think it was that day you went, or was it that Friday. It was the next day. Yeah. You went to the house and started praying with him and stuff. So it's, I mean, the dream realm is real. science is starting to catch up on how real it is. But again, like I said, it's just my fear is that they're going to, they're going to

normalize it for the normies. And it's just going to, like, the whole supernatural side of it that is reality is going to just get passed by. My fear is, and that's just going to be like, oh, that's just still Hollywood. That's all fake stuff. Here's the real explanation, you know. Oh, what I love. Go ahead.

No, go ahead, Ben. You're the guest. You're the guest. Well, so something to that I love is they can pretend like this is just a brand new thing and it's a new thought. No, actually, this has been throughout history all of history. And I mean, every single mythology you look at, every single religion you look at, every single, like even the Bible. Okay. It talks about how in the upper room, or not in the upper room, but in a certain room, they were praying for Peter to get out of jail and they saw his angel.

Yeah. That's literal astral projection. He was asleep and he was physically in one place, but his soul and his spirit were in another place. which talks about it, we can go into a great detail about that. But like even if you look at the Native Americans, they talk about how in sweat tents, they left their bodies and they went somewhere else

to the Great Plains to go visit the Great God or whatever. I mean, it is literally scattered all throughout history, but we're just now, I hate to say normalizing it, but realizing is really what it is, the significance of it. It's not just,

they're all high on Pioti or whatever or peyote, but it, no, it happens to everyone. I mean, there's kids. nowadays that are coming out and like yeah hey in my dream i was actually here seeing this there's pastors there's talking about i prayed for this one person and all of a sudden i my soul left my body and i was in argentina praying for this person and like there's there's all these different things and it's been

around for so long but we're just now getting to the part where we can actually wrap our brains around it which is cool because in the kingdom we can use that to move forward but the problem is again the enemy can take that and be like no it's just a distraction look over here hey look there's aliens. Yeah. Aliens. Enter Obama. Get him on the scene.

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Like, to your point, like, we had a very regimented. It seemed like society kind of, when the country was being formed was very much, like, you came from, like the pilgrimage, you came from this very strict, theocratic society, where you were told what to believe and how to think. And though they were very logical, when logic in that manner, in the worldly manner enters the chat,

you end up seeing a lack of the supernatural and the realization of what the supernatural is and how real it is. And so it's like from the foundation of the country to the point when you had the actual, the Pentecost, right? What was it? The 1900s. The revival, right? Like you see the- Yeah, I think so. I think that's what I'm thinking of.

But, anyway, the point is like you see the revival come and you see that there is now like a recognition of supernatural. and what the supernatural is and how it impacts your life. And it grew and grew and grew. And then we see the atheism enters the chats in like the 80s, 70s, 80s, science becomes so prevalent. We're talking about science with all of this stuff. And science is now the God for this country rather than it being God in the supernatural. And at this point now, you see revival again and you see supernatural becoming this thing that people are opening their eyes to. They're seeing the dreams are real and that what they're experiencing is,

real. I mean, I've experienced that. And so that's why I know it's like, it's not just, it's people who come from the religious spirits and these these, you know, more strict mentality's logic is always the reason rather than God being the reason. And so

that's why I think now vocabulary is catching up to what is really happening and it's cool. Azusa Street Revival 1906. 1906, I was two years off, but it's pretty good. It's pretty good. That's close. I think it's important to make a distinction, too, that, like, as Christians, we need to make sure that we're not, we're not seeking out these things.

It's like, God allows and gifts us these things at the appropriate time and we never have to, like, like, necessarily pursue it. I think what you're saying, just to clarify. Yeah, no, I'm not saying we need to be like new ageers. I just want to clarify that, yeah. I'm not saying when you jump into the Wiccans, all that mess. No, no, no, no. I'm saying if God gives you a download, run with it. If it's not from God, stay away from it.

Yeah, 100%. 100%. No, I just want to make some clarification. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's good. I wouldn't have thought to do that. And I think in the future, that's what they're doing. They're normalizing it.

And the new ageer. So everyone will begin to like, oh, you can astral project too. Here's the meds how to do it. You can get more in touch. And they're going to add science to it to normalize it. So everyone's starting to do it. Yeah. Where it's like, no, man, this is just like when God allows it and gifts it to you.

That's when we run with it. Yeah. In the beginning, I forgot to me. mention this and I kind of start steering away from the dream talk we don't need to finish reading that um i i i usually we we uh try to find something to um you know this show's brought to you by and i wanted to do it with your your ministry today um so if anybody watching this listening on replay one because we're about to start shifting our conversation into your ministry and what you guys do with fighting human trafficking,

and it's a worldwide operation. But if somebody wants to donate to that ministry, how would they go about doing that? Well, there's three different ways you can actually get a hold of us. You can actually go to Troybrew. Troybrew.com, and that's where we actually do most of our donations at. You can also go to Answer International, which is more of our humanitarian side of things.

So it's more of a secular humanitarian side. if you're not into, if you're not wanting to be part of the church or whatever else, or if you know people that want to donate to humanitarian aids, but don't want to be involved with the church that is answering international.org. Or if you want to see more of our content and actually hear our rescue stories, stuff like that, you can go to ODX.com. I hear there's like a new TV show on that. There is.

What's that TV show about? Oh, man. I wish there was somebody that was actually on it that could tell me. I believe it was the counter. That's right. The counter. I forgot about that. Ruffle his feathers some more.

Exactly. Is somebody massaging me right now? It's really good. No, yeah. So, ODX.TV, we have the counter on there. And the counter was made to raise money to fight human trafficking. Correct. That's the whole point behind the counter.

That's the whole point behind ODX.TV, becoming a member there, that money goes to fighting human trafficking. And so, like, anybody can watch the counter on YouTube, go to Troy Brewer, YouTube channel. If you just type in on YouTube, Troy Brewer, the counter, it'll pop up. And there's nine episodes we filmed. They're still releasing them. And I'm on like four or five of them. I can't remember. I know me and Brian Schwartz split time. But we are filming the 10th

episode of the counter this week for season one. So a bonus show, you know? And I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to out of the story here real quick. I show up and I'm telling you, man, like this past year, there's been two times that I realized that, now I'm not saying that I don't belong, but visually I felt like I didn't. And the counter was one of them because I showed up and I got these pastors and everybody's wearing sport coats and I show up in a button down dress untucked in black Levi jeans and black Tim boots.

And I'm like... Philly boy. I just don't... I felt like this is what I've been describing it. I was like, I feel like I used to be a truck driver that became a podcaster. That's how I'm starting to feel. I was like, hmm, I wonder. And so that and then some of the conferences that we've been to and stuff where I showed up like that

and everybody's dressed in like nicer clothes and like... Maybe I should start dressing better. I don't know. So for the record, I'd be wearing overalls all day long if I could. I love overall. I know. I know. And listen, I'm telling you, man, like, I wrestled with this because part of me was like, well, that's just me. And, you know, like I was talking to people about it and they're like, oh, that's just, that's just you. We love you for who you are. I'm like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. But I don't love how I feel when I'm sitting around a bunch of sport coat guys.

and I feel like I just rolled out of my out of my bed with a t-shirt on, you know. Welcome to my life, brother. I know. It's good to have you. I'm leaving here and behind. I already bought the clothes. I was like, I don't need to do this.

I know Ben's going to show up at this place where in his usual get-up. And I was like, but I'm going to feel uncomfortable again. So I want to get myself some sport coats. There you go. I'm going to. I actually own a couple suits. I just don't wear them very often.

Really? You wear them for when you're when you're marrying people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. things I wear, but yes. Yes, that's right. We'll let it go. But yeah, so anyways, I'm going to be looking snazzy.

Jack, make sure you make a note to that whole like five minutes that we just talked about me looking good. Make that a specific chapter for the YouTube video. So people can jump right to that more over it. And you're in the Prophecy Watchers conference coming up, right? Yeah. And that's why you had a little snazzi. Here the Watchman.

Oh, oh, yeah. That's with Larry. Yeah, Larry says that's the first one. So the big picture prophecy conference, anybody who wants tickets to that can go to Prophecy Conference 26, the number 26.com and use promo code Tony and you will get a discount. I think the tickets are set at $79 and it'll drop it down to $50, I think, with my, something like that. You get a significant discount. That's why I keep saying significant discount, because I really don't know what the discount is. It's something like that, though. But I will be speaking Friday night. So anybody who are buying tickets because they want to be there for that, make sure you're there for Friday night because you won't see me for the rest of the weekend because I already had plans and I'll be flying Saturday morning to Charlotte. So I'm speaking Friday night. Promocode Tony, prophecy conference 26.com. And I will be also later this year doing here the Watchman conference in August. And that I will be flying from Charlotte again to Missouri, I think is where, no, Montana.

I don't know. Somewhere in the country, I'll be and I will be doing the new Tony thing. In the sports coat. In a sports coat. Maybe not there. I don't know.

I'm only going to whip it out for special occasions. Fair. I feel uncomfortable, but when I look in the mirror, I like what I see. Yeah. You know? Anybody ever feel that way? 100%.

You're like, this is so not me. I'm like, hmm, that's not bad. It feels weird, you know? So anyways, what are we talking about? That's right. We're transitioning into serious topics. Let's get serious. human trafficking has been something that's been in the news since the Epstein

Files has been dropped. And I want to say that the Epstein Files has been talked about as an entirety. What has been dropped is a lot, but it's not all of it. And you just have to, you know, apply some basic logic and understanding. The first administration that drops any information, especially with it being heavily redacted, there will be certain things in there that within the administration, there's ties to, listen, the Epstein Network has ties to everything, everything. All your bad guys and all the people you think are good guys, there's somebody, I promise you, there's somebody in the world that you think is a good guy that's tied to this. It just, that's how deep this network goes. And I say goes because it's

still operating. And I just felt like you could say it's synchronicity, but I don't really think it is that we booked you to be here today and for other things, not to be on camera. And then we're going live and this drop happened. So what I want to do is start off on the Epstein stuff a little bit and we can kind of sift through it a little bit. But then, you know, get into more of a micro level of your ministry, what you guys are involved in and doing to combat this and have been. So my question for you is Epstein dropped. Well, the whole thing happened, I think, in what, 2018, 2019 when he got arrested and then he, you know, supposedly killed himself, which there's a lot of questions about that now. And there always has been,

but when you see that there's documentation saying that they did swap out the bodies for the media, it's like, right. So you and your family have been fighting human trafficking well before that. Correct. What extent did you guys understand? Like, was Epstein a name that popped up for you guys in your fighting human trafficking? trafficking before he was heavily publicized the way he is now? No, there were some names that popped up, but there weren't ones that most people would know.

But, I mean, most of what we do now is very different from what we did previously. So when we started off, we started off very simple. It started off with a kid and a trash dump. Okay? It's kind of a sad story, but it has a great ending, I promise. So we used to go to the trash dumps in Mademort, Mexico, all the time. which is right across the border from Brownsville, Texas, because we had a sister church,

we still have a sister church down there, and they did a lot of ministry in the trash dumps. The reason they did ministry in the trash dumps is because the cartel would own people, and for them to pay off a debt, they would make them go sift through all the trash and find valuable stuff to go try to get a few pesos so they can start paying off their debts.

The reason they did that, the reason they got these debts, is because they would move up from Central and South America, thinking that there is more work on the borders of Texas. And so they would get here in the cartels would give them a loan. And these are essentially village people. So they don't understand interest rates. So they would put like a thousand percent interest rate on a $100.

And that's something they would never pay off in their lifetime. And since the cartel knows this, and they at the time did not know what interest rates and all that stuff were, they accept these loans thinking these guys are helping them out and they'd be able to pay it off within a year or two. Well, obviously they can't. So after they get to a point where they can no longer make payments, They're essentially slaves. And so they move them down to the trash dumps to go live there with their families. Some with little bitty children just a few days old.

Some with some older people in their 60s and 70s that are still sifting through and their entire family. Their grandkids, their kids, whole nine yards all live there. After a certain point, they will offer you, hey, if you give us your daughter, if you give us your son to go work in the cat house, we'll pay off this little bit of your loan. And so, again, that sounds appeasing, but again, they're only paying off like $5, essentially, an American money. So, again, that takes off maybe a year or two at best. And so one of the things that they do is whenever the girls in the cat house got pregnant, they would just throw the babies out in the dump. So my dad is there, and I was actually there with him that day.

And I think it was like five or six when I first started going down there. We've been going there for a long time. Your dad was taking you as a five at six-year-old. I've traveled the world since I was a little kid. Wow. Wow. Okay. Again, we were radical.

You still are. You still are. Yeah. But anyway, we were down there and my dad saw this little girl and she was staring at what he thought was a little baby toy doll. So, and he looked, it was filthy. It was gross. And it was covered in ants. And so he went to go kick it to get the ants off it so he can get this little doll for the little girl.

When he kicked it, it breathed. It took a breath and then started crying. It was a brand new baby. I'm talking like a couple hours old max. They just dumped in the dump, left in the dump. So my dad grabs it, his little boy, and he rushes it to the hospital. The little boy survived. He's actually a full on adult now.

I think he's 29 or 30 somewhere in there. And he has a family of his own, and he's awesome. That's awesome. That's how we started in Mexico. Wow. Now, we started also in Costa Rica, previous to this, actually. My dad went on a mission trip to Costa Rica with my mom. and a few other people.

And they went to, what is still to this day, one of the most terrifying places in Costa Rica to go. It's essentially a maze where the cartel owns. It's not like a, what you would think, like stone walls maze. No,

it's houses that are in like a circular formation. So that's made to where you get lost so that the cartel can run in there and hide and the government can't do anything about it. So my dad goes in there with my mom and a few others. And this lady walks up to him, an older lady, sweet older lady and she goes and start speaking to him in Spanish and of course my dad doesn't

speak Spanish at the time he speaks a little now and just like I do but uh the translators my dad's like so what's this lady Afrin and she's like oh she's or he is like she's offering to bring you over to the house so you can have a cup of tea blah blah blah blah pull nine yards super nice and he's like yeah okay cool when he gets there he sees these two little girls and so this old lady is like hey if you want I can sell you these little girls they're Nicaraguan refugees My dad wasn't comprehending what she meant by that. And so after some explanation, she goes, you can film a movie. Meaning she thought that he was a sex trafficker.

So my dad was like, okay, well, how much do you want for him? She was like $500. So my dad bought these two little girls, runs back to my mom. It's like, guess what I just did? We're going to have to raise these kids now. And so that's actually how we started buying and liberating kids from sexual trafficking. That's wild. So we've done it both ways from literally rescuing them when they're just being abandoned or being abused or whatever else and just left to also being a part of working with governments now and working with law enforcement and everything else to actually rescue these kids and be via buying them and then setting them up to be got by the government or by the law enforcement's there and actually taken to jail and arrested.

We also prosecute them too now. We do the whole gambit. So we started off that way. And since then, just since 2016, we've rescued over, I think it's 12,000 kids now. We've rescued just since 2016. Wow. We didn't start counting previously because we didn't think that we'd rescue more than like 100. We're like, if we do nothing more than rescue 100 kids over our entire course of our ministry, we've done.

That's a big deal. Yeah, it's a huge deal. But in 2016, God put him on dad's heart. he's like, why are you not counting the kids that you've rescued? This is a testimony to me. It's not a testimony to us. I mean, yeah, we're there for it, but it's not us doing. It's us being the hands of feet of Jesus.

And this is a testimony to his name. Yeah. Because, I mean, like, it, the way it's started for you guys and the way it's, it's, it's, where it's gone, that can, that is only a testament to Christ working through you guys. Yeah. And I know you guys personally. And I think it's safe to say without the Lord's hand on it, it wouldn't have become a fraction of what it is now.

You know, like, it's the way it is with this show. I mean, I just don't feel like this show would be anything if it wasn't for God calling me to do it and start this process. Jack is walking around to see what happened? Oh, he's doing producer stuff. Okay. Well, you can't do the... Call them out live.

Well, I mean, I just... I get distracted easily. Yeah, I know. It is. This is great. We should have a little button... A.D.D. That's actually, whenever we get a sound drop thing going, Jack, we should definitely do a button words.

Brought you by an OCD moment. It makes me think, too, though, like keeping track of the numbers because I think in numbers all the time. But what you guys do is just such a small... fraction of the big picture. And to be able to put some kind of numbers to it, like you're talking about like 12,000 kids. And this is just a fraction of the areas that you're allowed to go to all the different, you know what I mean? And these are all moving up from like you're saying like further south and they're trying to

come to America. But like you exponentially calculate like this is just certain areas and certain countries. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like how big the problem is is insane. No. That a small little ministry could rescue 12. thousand kids. It like it hurts my brain thinking about the fullness of what we're looking at.

It's crazy. What I love about you guys is that there's different aspects of what you guys do. But the underlying thing that you guys do is you just take care of God's people. Yeah. You know, you save humans that are being traffic. You guys have a massive food bank. When we were down there last year, for the filming, I think it was for, no, I forget what it was for. I don't remember what it was for but there was this big drive that you guys had I don't know if that's a normal thing but it was We do average every other week

Yep It was thousands of people We give away usually anywhere between 100,000 200,000 pounds of food every other week Every other week And that's just in one location In Texas How many food banks do you guys have?

Oh God, we have I'm going to spitball it Because I don't know the exact number off top of my head To be honest But we have I'm going to say at least 20. Really?

Worldwide, yeah. Wow, I didn't know that. So we have one of our our largest food bank is actually in Nicaragua and we give away roughly around a million pounds of food a month. That's wild. That's wild.

What does that equate to as far as the amount of families that you're feeding then? Do you have any of that number? It's hard to get a direct number in Nicaragua because a lot of times it's like the pastors that come out and we'll go and go into villages and stuff like that and give out food there. So it's hard.

but a rough guesstimate, probably close to 60, 70,000 people. That is a month. Yeah. That is wild. That's at least. That's like a really low ball on it. That's awesome, man.

That's so cool. We also have ones in Israel. We have ones in Uganda. We have them in India. We have them in all over Central and South America. We also have bomb shelters in Israel, too. We actually built a whole bunch of bomb shelters there. We have our fingers on.

a lot of pies. Yeah. Humanitarian though. You guys, so you did a great job laying out like how this all started for you guys. And my question to you was about the Epstein thing. And you said, no, not really. And that that's actually the point. The point is that there's this huge magnifying glass on Epstein. And I mean, I think a majority of people felt like, you know, whatever you believe is, if he's dead or not, you know, I'm actually, I'm actually starting to come closer to the lineup. Because I used to be like, I think he's dead. I think, I think they killed him.

I don't think he killed himself. But, you know, now I'm thinking, he may not be dead. I don't know. But all that said, when, when that all went down, I think there's a big chunk of people who felt like, oh, the problem's taken care of then. Oh, good.

Human trafficking can stop now. Yeah. Like there might be some little pieces here and there, but it's not going to be this big corporation because the head of the snake was taken out. And the reality is like, it was like, I was saying he was like a tire on a car that they had, they swapped out. But he was like despair in the trunk that they just threw out on the side of the road. Like the car just kept moving. They didn't even stop. And so Epstein is the name, this flashy name.

And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be digging into what he was doing because you can. learn a lot from any intel you can get. But the reality is, it is still happening. It's prevalent. And I've been learning some things that, man, it is, it's deep and it's dark and it's everywhere. You can think that you're like, oh, well, not where I'm at. Yeah, probably where you're at. I was stunned to find some of the, find out some of the statistics that I've been learning about human trafficking and where it's at. Because you think, for me, generally, you think, think big city, you know, runaway kids get swept up into it or whatever. But it's in your small towns, small communities. In fact, it hides there. Like that, like, that's a place where if you,

if you're thinking where the rubber meets the road, where the kids, the women, the people are being physically taken and trafficked and housed somewhere to be shipped somewhere, that's happening in small towns where nobody knows anything. And it's just, it is what it is, you know? Like, it's less eyeballs. And that's what I'm learning. And it's very concerning. Could you shed some light on just, like, to me, like the supply and demand aspect of this? Because, like, I'm trying to, like, understand where, like, if there's so many kids moving, getting traffic through, and it's like, there's this continuous need for more children constantly, right? Yeah. It's either like the predator side of it is way more gigantic thing we can ever imagine,

which is probably true, you know? Or like what are the other dot, dot, dots that you would like, like for this demand that we see? Let me start off by saying this. It's way worse than you think by leaps and bounds, but don't be impressed with it. The numbers are scary. Yeah, it's horrible 100%.

But our God is way bigger than this. And I refuse to be impressed with it. I refuse. That's first and foremost. The second thing I'm going to bring up is the internet is the problem. And the reason for that is because porn is so easy to get a hold of now. And they're training you. They're training you. You start off watching what my dad loves to say is you start off watching the Oriental Baby Center.

By the time you're done, you're starting to watch that baby. They teach you through all these different apps through all these different websites, how to use the dark web to go and find these kids. It's so easy. It's just a few clicks of the button. And after you watch a certain amount of hours on there, because they do studies and all the other stuff on how long it takes the average adult male

to go from watching the Oriental babysitter or watching the baby, by the time you get to that point, they've shown you how to get online, jump on Instagram, message a certain person, go down to the border, go sexually assault, a child and they come back home like it's nothing.

And it doesn't take long. When you say that they show you, you're saying like the average person who gets sucked into this stuff is showing how to do that? 100%. So they're grooming predators. Correct. Wow. So what they do is like when you say they are grooming predators,

like who would you say that they are? Without getting political or anything else, it's the higher ups just in the world, the world around. It's not just America. It's not just Mexico. It's not just any one certain place. It's everyone.

Everyone is linked to this. There are tons of bureaucrats that are linked to Pornhub or to any of the other big names out there. And they're getting paid millions by these companies to just let it slide. Not worry about it. And again, that's world around. That's every big name out there is probably at some point taking a bribe from one of these companies. man well that's uh that's just concerning i mean like because you you i guess the human side of you wants to believe that the majority of the average joe schmo guys that get involved in the stuff

there's that they have a pre-existing condition you know like they they're just mentally not totally there sometimes yes but you're saying people can be manipulated into being groomed to doing things that you know, five, ten years ago they wouldn't have imagined. Yeah.

That's wild. And no, it's like I said, it's a lot more evil than what people think. It's because people just don't want to see it anymore. They don't want to think, oh, the world's scary.

The world is scary. But again, our God's bigger. That is the most important thing that we have to remember because your average person that's in this line of work usually lasts like

four or five years max. My family, my family and I've been doing this for 30 years. And the reason we've been able to do this so long is because we know God's bigger than this evil. No matter how terrible it may seem, no matter how dark it may seem, God's light is way brighter. And I don't care if you're religious, whatever else.

You have to find something to anchor yourself on. And for me, it's God. The stuff I see, the stuff I've experienced without ruining or spoiling our podcast, I should be dead more times than I can count. Yeah. I mean, I've had so many near-death experiences, be it casual things to extreme things. But again, God has always anchored me there and has always taken care of me.

And so that's one of the things you have to remember when you're going through all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And that's sobering. And that's good to hear. I will also say that to give people the understanding of your mental. health, if any other person went to India and had what happened to you, they wouldn't be returning. And you're like, oh, it's one of my favorite places to go.

I love it. Just learn what not to do, right? Yeah, exactly. Trial and error. So, let's talk about stateside. You know, obviously with the Epstein stuff, there was a whole state side operation, global operation, but that does come stateside. I don't want to talk about some of the celebrity names that were dropped recently just because I think it needs to be documented more before we go down that road. But you guys are now operating stateside saving kids. Correct. What can you say about those operations and what it entails?

Let me take you back just a little bit in time. So previously to the Biden administration, we had what we call called Bob or called Bob numbers for every three-letter agency you can think of that was helping us rescue kids on the border. I mean, for years we had that. The second Biden got in office, we lost all of them. I mean, every single one. So it's not that we haven't that we just started. We've been doing this for a long time. But for the past eight years, it's been almost impossible for us to do anything.

What I can tell you, though, is we've recently gotten in contact with some amazing, amazing elite forces and stuff like that that have been hunting predators legally, obviously, and been working with different local governments, local officials, stuff like that, to go track down where these kids are going and actually rescuing them. And so I can tell you that within the past few weeks, we've actually rescued three or four kids. Wow. And we're in the process of rescuing more right now as we speak. Wow. And those kids, are they on the border or are they other places throughout the country? They're all over America. Really? All over America. And is this a lot of cartel type stuff that you know of? Or is it? Because it seems to me like there's different, like there's this industry of human trafficking, but then there's different corporations within that industry. Correct. So there's different levels on how deep it goes, obviously. Some of,

them is just one-offs like a good for instance without going in any major detail. There was a gentleman that got let out of, I say gentleman. He's not a gentleman. Dirtbag. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, he got out of jail and within two months, he lured a 15-year-old girl to him and then kidnapped her and ran away with her. We recently found her.

And that guy is back in jail where he belongs and he will stay there for the rest of his life. then you have stuff like there's satanic cults out there and I'm not trying to be that guy's like oh it's the devil no this is just one of the many things we have to deal with because we see this yeah because we see this not only here in America but we also we have to deal with it all the time in Central America and South America too so I'm just specifically saying this cult because this isn't the first time we run into this specific cult and that's what their views are

as satanic beliefs and stuff like that sacrifices hold on yards we recently rescued someone from them too So it goes as small as just the one idiot to a whole organization. We deal with all the in-between two. Wow. I don't know if it was this cold, but have you heard of the 764 cold? I think it is.

It's a satanic cold. I know we were talking about before we went live, but I don't remember off the top of my head. So like, and I don't know if they have a connection to trafficking. If they don't, they will in the future. and I don't know a ton about them. There's a lady that I had scheduled to come in here to the studio because there's actually somebody that's in jail in Knoxville

that is part of that cult. And they were set to go on trial in the beginning of January and the trial was pushed off again for like the third or fourth time, which tells me there's probably some kind of chicanery going on. So she didn't come into town again. But whenever that trial happens, she's going to come in. She's been researching it heavily. And from what I understand, the 764 quote, if I remember, that's what it's called, right, Jack?

764 quote, yeah. It's online, and they're getting kids to mutilate themselves, to unalive themselves, and just do terrible things. And they get blackmail on them. They get, you know, they befriend them and things like that until they, you know, get them to send them something and then and then it's this switch gets flipped and it's like okay now you got to go and you know i don't know like do something horrible to yourself and eventually it gets to the point where they they they cease to live so we do have we do have uh experience in areas like that i don't know if it's specifically that cold or not but that is

a common thing unfortunately what they'll do especially with like young athletes what they'll do is they will find an attractive girl. And it'll be an older guy like in his 50s or 60s. And he'll send nudes and inappropriate stuff like that, expecting them to send one back. The second they send one back, they send them a text like, hey,

I own you now essentially. You're going to do this, this, this and this. Or else I'm going to expose you to everyone and you're going to lose your entire life. Your entire life is over. And so they do that all.

That is unfortunately a super common tactic that a lot of different. entities use. Yeah. It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. You were talking about the influence that the ministry has been, the ministry has been growing and the connections you guys have been making worldwide. But you guys are going to be speaking at the World Cup? We are. So my dad is specifically, I will not be. I will be there, but I will not be speaking. You're going to hold his coat. Yeah, exactly. How did that all come together? And when, when you say speaking at the World Cup, Cup, what does that look like it mean?

So honestly, it's a lot. So we've been doing work in Central America for, I guess, decades at this point. It's been 30-plus years. Recently, within the past couple of years, we've become really good friends with a lot of higher-ups in Mexico. And so we actually, my dad got to speak at the Mexican Congress about sexual trafficking. He's also spoken to the, it's the emissary?

Embassery for America Whatever that word is Embassy Yeah the ambassador There we go He spoke to the ambassador In Mexico That's actually the ambassador

For America there We've actually become close with him too Super long Dramatic story short They love us We love them They are super helpful And they've been helping us

Bust a lot of rings And do a whole lot of stuff And save a lot of kids During all that They asked him A few months ago To come up there And actually speak

During the World Cup about sexual trafficking and human trafficking and how big of a deal it is. And even at that place, right that second, there's human trafficking happening and what you can do to prevent it and what you can do to help stop it. So we're super excited about it.

Yeah. Yeah. So are you going to be standing in front of leaders or? Literally everyone. Like everyone that's actually at the game. Like people who are at the... So they... Like, I got a ticket to the game and I'm going to...

This during the halftime show essentially. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. It's going to be crazy. So they're estimating that a billion people, one billion with a B, are going to see this within a few weeks.

That's awesome. Is that the opening game in Mexico City? Holy cow. Yeah. That's awesome. I wanted tickets to that game. Wow. Can I like, so it seems to me that there's a huge spiritual component to all this as well.

I mean, like, obviously we look at it. and it's so evil, it's so dark. And it feels like the work is, to me, we're moving into the end times where this is like, we're really, like they're exposing the darkness so clearly to us. And how do we go about engaging? Like, what do you feel like is the best way

for us to engage? Like prayer donations. Like, what do you think? Like, so all the above, honestly, it's each person has their own gift. Some is money. Some is time, which is also just as valuable as time. Some is prayer, which again, just as valuable. All these things are all very, very, very valuable. Something that a lot of people do is they hear stories like what I'm telling right now. They're instantly like, oh, I have a gun. I'm going to go take on. There are certain areas in our walk that we're allowed to go down, and there's certain areas we're not. God has a time in the season for everything.

looking David by like just for instance he was a man after God's own heart who he loved who God himself says that he loved this man like he loved him and when he was on the battlefield and he was doing what God told him to do he was a absolute rock star but the second he came home when he wasn't supposed to be home when it says when the Bible says when most kings were at war

David was at home he fell for Bishiba that is a perfect example for for this whole thing God has called some people to go to war. He's called them to be men of war, so to speak. And there's some that God has called to be watching on the walls. There's some that he's called to be intercessors.

There are some that he's called to be financial backers. Everyone has a key role in this. And there is no role that's bigger than the other. Every single role is important. And that's something people really, really, really need to understand. the reason I say that is because in all the traveling I've done and all the things I've done, I've realized when I'm fighting outside of my weight class. And I walked in something that I thought I had authority in and I did not.

And that's something that everybody needs to know. If God is tugging on your heartstrings and say, hey, donate, awesome. If God is tugging on our heartstrings saying, hey, pray for us. Please pray for us because we go through a lot of unique situations. imagine. Yeah. If God is simply saying, hey, just send a nice comment their way. We see all these things and we feel all these things, be it monetary, be it anything.

And we literally appreciate every single thing. We're not out there for your money. We're out there to rescue more kids. Yeah. Okay. So I want to focus on some of the off the wall. side of this that people traditionally had thought couldn't be possible. But through people's testimonies and, you know, this drop that came out with the files,

it seems like there's something to it. Like we had Hope Burrell Green in studio and we released that episode recently. And she talks about, you know, the idea of being an experiment, you know, and being in trafficking, there's a whole supernatural side of this. And you mentioned about a woman that comes to your church. Could you go into that? I don't want to say too much because I don't want to say anything that she or you don't want. Yeah, I can give you a brief understanding.

Eventually, I would like to get her on the show and let her tell the full understanding. Right here in studio, please. I would love to. But if you're watching this, Elle, love you. Love your husband, too. Love your family. So I'm going to call her Elle, obviously. She

Well, break down why, obviously. So there was a project back in World War II called the Hitler Project. Essentially, without going to great detail, you can look at close stuff up. Essentially what they did is they took sperm samples from Hitler and they were trying to make clones of him so he could live forever, essentially. It was what the whole idea was. What they took from that is they actually have a group of people that they use for nefarious. things in very different ways. Some are spiritual, some are physical, some are even mental.

So what they do is they actually take these children and they raise them and they're all spawns of Hitler, essentially. And some they use to predict the future. Some they use to move higher up in political value or in political situations. Some they use for just sacrifice. the ones that they use for spiritual and for mental, what they do is they call it the breaking of the soul. And they will take them into a chamber and they will mutilate them.

They will sexually assault them. They will literally break their mind. So what they believe is that whenever you break a child's mind that a piece of their soul is taken away and they give it to an entity. An entity being, this is going to sound wild, but I mean this entire story is wild. So an entity being a, what we would call a demon, which our understanding of demons is so basic. It's so, yeah, it's as basic as it gets.

We call everything a demon. But there are different classes, just like there's different classes of angels, just like there's different classes of humans. There's different classes of everything. They're very different classes of demons and what they're capable of doing. So what they'll do is they will give a piece of the soul to a. demon. They will sacrifice to a demon or they'll hold onto it themselves. They actually own this child or this person. And what they'll do is they will have them look into the future. They'll have some look into the future so they can predict like what the next hit song is going to be. As simple as

that is, songs are what a lot of people believe are portals, portals being areas where we can actually slip into the supernatural. So like, for instance, when you hear a song and it makes you feel good, that's intentional. That's not accidental. That is very intentional. And so they will go through and they will put songs in place that are like, hey, let's take rap for instance. I actually like rap sometimes. There's some good Christian rappers out there. But in a rap song, it talks about how I beat my old lady. I did this. I did that. And that normalizes it. So what they do is they predict how the trend is going to go and how long it's going to take for that to be normalized. where that's it affect a generation. Same thing with country songs. So it's like the long game of the whole pornography thing. Yes, exactly.

It's exactly right. So they're playing the long con here. They're not playing the short game. This is a long con. It's been going on for generations. And so L actually goes to our church and I love her and she tells a very descriptive story about everything that happened.

But essentially in some of the rooms, like we were talking about with the Epstein Island thing, Epstein Island actually has a temple on it. And that's two. a local deity that they all worship. And so what they would do in there is they would molest and do terrible things to these children. But not just in the physical thing,

L talks about how sometimes there'd be different creatures that showed up too. On Epstein Island? Well, not on Epstein Island, but just in place she was at her. Oh, I got you. Yeah. So this happened in South Africa. Okay.

So there'd be different creatures that showed up. And it wasn't just they were there spiritually. They're actually there physically, too. Like they would manifest. And so someone be in the form of a werewolf. Someone being in a form of a vampire, of a vampire, all these different things. And so she goes in a great description about what all they were and what all they represented. She also talked about at some points how they would make some of these kids into mere folk.

So they go deep in the oceans. there's a ton to break down in all of her story, which is why I want her to tell her herself, so I don't get anything wrong. So was Hitler genetically special then? Is that like the idea of all this then? Yes, no. They believed that Hitler essentially was a spokesman for the gods.

Realistically, did he have any special powers? I don't think so. I think that he made a contract with the demon, and that's what got him so high up. Okay. And that's why he made so many sacrifices and he did so many things. See, to me, the whole idea of superpowers is very interesting. Not because I'm like, oh, we can all fly.

We can do this at the other. I do believe there is such thing as levitation. There are stuff like that, which we would throw into the box of, oh, that's a superpower. No, it's more of a spiritual thing. That's more of actually tapping into this supernatural, so to speak. so I believe that Hitler had something in the spiritual where he could control crowds he could use his voice

he could use the vibrations of his voice he could use the gestures of his body to influence entire generations and influence people all across the world so is that superpower some would classify that I still think is just a supernatural phenomenon yeah I think that I would like to talk to

hell and see where that goes. We're going to bring it in for a landing here. If you could let people know where they can find out more information about the ministry and support the cause of the ministry, however they feel led. Yeah, of course. If you guys would like to donate, you can go to Troybrew.com. You can also go to answerinternational.org. Answer international is our, like I said, more secular side of what we do.

It's more humanitarian. It's more It's our way of getting out to the community Where you don't have to be tagged with the church It's just strictly humanitarian If you would like to see more of our content Check out the counter That has good old Tony Merkel on there

The beautiful man himself Did we say that already? But if you're going to check out the counter Or even more TV shows that we have on there We also have tons of rescue stories You can actually go to ODX.tv Again, that is ODX.com. Yeah, check it out, guys.

I'm actually, I'm just going to be honest with you. I can talk to you a lot longer, but I just got to text me saying my house has zero water pressure. So I got to figure out what's going on. Nice. Because I'm supposed to be leaving town today, too. So here we go. Life never stops. Hey, and just remember, if you like the show, please become a member, subscribe, like the episode, and share it with your friends.

Yes. And I will always say the last word, Derek. I'll see you guys. Bye. Oh, boy. Is that slingshot? Yeah, yeah, Blink shot season.

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