The Confessionals - UFO Disclosure, Wormholes & Skinwalker Ranch: Does the New Drop Connect the Dots? | Slingshot Nation

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

The latest UFO disclosure drop may be connecting dots that have been sitting in plain sight for decades. We dive into newly released UAP material involving strange craft encounters, unexplained injuries, warp-drive concepts, wormholes, government contractors, and the $22 million program connected to Skinwalker Ranch—where researchers investigated everything from UFOs and orbs to poltergeist activity and Bigfoot-like creatures.But what if these stories aren’t separate at all? We examine reports of massive cloud-like UAPs, government research into breakthrough propulsion, Bigelow-linked programs, and the possibility that the most important data has never been made public. From Skinwalker Ranch to interdimensional theories and secret aerospace research, this episode asks whether the latest disclosure is finally revealing pieces of a much larger picture.If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890📕 Pre-order Tony's Book: https://a.co/d/05um4vgm 📰 Subscribe to Our Newsletter: https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/newsletterBecome a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZThe Counter Series Available NOW:The Counter (YouTube): WATCH HEREThe Counter (Full Episode): WATCH HERETony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comIf you want to learn about Jesus and what it means to be saved: Click HereMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyQUINCE: quince.com/tonyIVERMECTIN: twc.health/tonyVENICE AI: https://venice.ai/theconfessionalsRUMBLE WALLET: https://rumblewallet.onelink.me/bJsX/ConfessionalsCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media6726 Morganton RdP.O. Box #08Greenback, TN 37742SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkelProduced by: @jyorkofficial

Oh boy, is that Slingshot? Yeah, yeah. Blinkshot season. Hey, let's run it. Grace hit me like, boom. I told you. Welcome to Slingshot Nation, everybody. Thank you to all of you joining us on this fine Thursday morning live right here on YouTube and Rumble.

Thanks for being here, guys. We have a fun one for you today. I really think that we're going to tackle some things. We're going to solve the mysteries of the universe, and it's all going to be done right here on the show. an hour to an hour and a half. So strap up because it's going to get wild. And at the end of it, you're just going to know everything.

It's going to be amazing. You're going to be all-knowing. And you'll be self-reliant. Just kidding. Always need Jesus. Derek, how you doing, man? Wrong show. Yeah.

Wrong show. Great, man. We had a member in the chat. We're just really excited. But we love, if you guys would like to continue to follow us, click and subscribe. And we appreciate all the support guys. You guys are awesome. Yeah.

I would say following would be great. And just while I have it on my mind stuff, follow us on the newsletter too. So they can hit the link in the description below or if not this one, then the previous video. Or Jack will update it at some point. And you can kind of follow us on the newsletter so you're always connected with us no matter what. Jack, speaking of Jack, speaking of Jack, how's Jack doing today? Solid. Solid.

Not great. Smash the like button. That thing. Yeah, smash that. Smash that liggity like button. What does Bolland do? He's like, you know, he comes up with a whole new thing every time he wants to tell you to hit the like button.

He's like, beat the snot out of the like button. Like it just said something nasty to your sister. You know? So there's that. But speaking of like, like the show, you know, like this episode, it's free. It's something you can do for us. It's just, you know, hit the like button, does wonders, comment, engage with us in the comments section.

and if you're not ashamed of us too much, feel free to share the show too. Take the link, that little arrow thing that points to the right, hit it, grab that link, post it on social, send it to your friends. And if you don't like the show, if you don't like us,

what you can do is you can take the link to the show and send it to all the people you don't like and irritate the snot out of them with things that you don't like. So it's just like a negative plus a negative equals a positive in your case. I agree. It's getting weird.

Just let you weird out and just share it with some people. share it. Like, listen, I have, I have family visiting me this week, and I had a conversation last night with a particular person, and they're asking me about all this stuff. And they, you know, it sounds like they're giving credence to a lot of the stuff that I talk about. And part of it is because do you really have a say and choice when the world is the way it is? You, like, people feel the effects of just the spiritual side of our existence these days more than they did before because I think they felt it before but they didn't have a framework for defining it but through

the culture of the day, the rapid information, people like myself and you and Jack and others on the internet sharing context and understanding of here's why you might be feeling the way you feel. People generally I think have more of a sense of these things and then on top of it you have your own government coming out and saying yes, there's really weird things happening you are living in a sci-fi universe, and everything you thought was just Hollywood is actually real. And so people actually have questions. They're pondering things that they never thought they'd have to ponder. So, I mean, going back to the shared thing, hey, be a difference in the world.

Share these types of shows, and not just ours, but other people, is anything that you find that's of value. You know, like the Confessionals is a show where we try to tackle these topics in one-on-one conversation most of time and let it just really be a raw, authentic conversation. Slingshot Nation is that, but in a different format. We try to have group conversation, more of a jovial time, and have some fun with it for the most part. So, yeah, share the show. That'd be great. Today we're going to be talking about such things, though.

The UFO drops, the government releasing footage and files and what does it mean? And, you know, of all the things that the government has released over these, what, five or six drops now, I feel like this one, it's, for me, I haven't had this much fun with the release in a little while now. So some of them were, were just boring for me. This one, I think I had, it's a little bit more on the fun side. And I think what it is is for my brain, it triggers the what if factor, you know? And like, I think you could describe my brain the other day, like a roll deck. It lets me, let's my brain start flipping through things. Like, wait, I heard this before.

No, da, da, da, da, da, da. You know? And so, yeah, we're going to have some fun with the conversation day because it's not really, we're not really focusing as much on the disclosure, the drops and stuff like that in itself. But what it is actually presenting to the whole world as far as underlying context. And, oh, thanks, Jack. Jack is doing some in-house fixing. And hey, this is why I was just telling people like, this is a different type of show, Jack.

So he's like, you weren't supposed to break character. I had some tools on the table that I guess aren't supposed to be on YouTube videos for reasons. So anyways, I'm excited about today's show. That's what I'm trying to say. See, I thought you were going to say that, you know, this was the most interesting government file release since, you know, the Confessionals book. Oh, yes. Oh.

Yeah, see, Jack is trying to move me along in the process. He's good. He's moving us along. So the next documentation we're presenting is a book. We're less than two weeks away from the release of my book to the world. It's called The Confessionals Exposing War in Kingdoms. And I've been talking about it for several months now. And I just want to say thank you very much to everybody who has been supporting me in this journey, this process.

this might be the last time I write a book that is on this format. This format, I don't know. I've heard mixed reviews as far as people talking about memoir-type stuff. Some people say that they don't do great or whatever. Honestly, I don't think I'm going to, unless Scott says otherwise, I don't think I'm planning on writing another book that has this kind of leaning of taking you through a journey of my life, you know. And it's not all-encompassing.

It's not a biography, but it's specifically my journey through the supernatural into today's show, how we do things, how we view things, and the conclusions that I've come to. Moving forward, I feel like I have other books in me, to be honest with you, but there are going to be much more deep dives on the intricacies of certain things when it comes to scripture. And so I think this might be, unless God says otherwise, my last memoirish book, were you going to say? When is that declassified exactly? Declassification comes October 6th. Wow.

Man, that's so soon. Many people will be getting that book shipped, I guess, that week on the pre-orders. I'm not sure how it all works, but I think October 6th, though, maybe even that week, they'll be having them arrive. And please, if you got a pre-order in or not, and you just order it when it releases, Please take pictures, share on social media, tag us in it. We'll share your pictures. We want to see the people who are getting the book and enjoying it and hopefully picking some stuff up from it. And we're taking that to the merch store too, right?

We are. You told me that yesterday. So go ahead. Tell me what I'm doing. There will be autographed versions of the Confessionals book by Tony Merkel available at our merch store. Yeah, but not right away. It's going to be probably about a month down the road. we're not doing it right away.

Okay. So the only place you're going to be able to get it right now is on Amazon a month, two months. Maybe we'll do it around Christmas time. We'll be releasing the book on the website for signature copies, but we're not doing it right away under instruction of my authority, rulers and Rainers called the publisher. So you got to push the right AI numbers. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So if it gets sold on my website, nobody cares and nobody knows. All things good to happen over time. So last but not least, guys, speaking of the website and the merch site, Merkmerch.com, we've been talking about it. We're very excited about just the traction. It's been getting people enjoying the things that we're offering now.

We do have the mugs, the mugs right here. They are for sale on the website along with coffee. And is there a bundle? I'm not sure. Do we have a bundle? If we don't have a bundle, we should make a bundle of like coffee. and, and mugs so that,

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So we're definitely trying to expand things in the merch store for you guys. So you have fun stuff to rep the show on and support us. And it's fun conversation starts. You know, you just see the logo and people are like, hey, do you know that's a misprint? It has six fingers. Actually, it's not a misprint. Let me tell you about the Nephilim friend. You know what I mean?

So thanks everybody for all the support you guys have been giving us through the book, the merch site, and sharing the show, liking the show, all that fun stuff. And before we get into today's document release and just, I feel like, so today we're going to be talking about wormholes. We're going to talk about like warp drives, wormholes, all this stuff. And I feel like to get there, we're going to have to take them down a wormhole. So before we jump into that wormhole, Jack, take us away. Right. You are good man. This is a paid advertisement for Rumble Wallet.

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So when you had asked for class participation, it brought me back to reality. Because part of our conversation today I'm going to be talking about I forgot to get footage for us. So we're just kind of take my word for it. Going to take my word for it. So let's start off with Iran. That had, I guess, really got people talking. And it's probably because of the footage and what it looked like. But in 2000, let's see here.

I think it was recently, I think it was in 2000, I haven't down here, September 2020, they released footage that had this UFO, UAP type situation unfolding, I believe, was over Tehran. Tehran. Tehran. Tehran in Iran. So Iran to Tehran. It's Tehran as a

Azerbaijan. That's what I said. Right? Azerbaijan. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Cool.

Cool. So let us look at that footage and then we'll discuss further, Jack. If we can get that footage up on the screen for the people, I want to show them what we're talking about. And then we'll talk about it. And then I'd like to actually maybe get Tim Burchett's take on it on this. But also, just so everybody knows, Tim Burchett is up for election right now. So if he does not get reelected, he may be a quieter voice on this front of things, which would be very interesting.

If you think about like this whole government disclosure stuff, these committees such as Tim sitting on it, Eric Berluson sitting on it, these people who sit on this and are informed, what if they don't. get reelected. They walk away with a lot of information, right? So they could probably be ready to talk maybe freely on certain things that's not classified. But then who takes the reins? Who gets ushered into those seats? And what are their motivations? And, you know, like you have Eric Berluson, who is a very publicly devout Christian. Burchette says he is as well. And Burchett has come out and been very vocal about these topics. And part of it is because he stems from this world. Like before he was in politics, he was into these things. He was a local guy, part of these Bigfoot groups and everything. And so he was already interested in the topic.

So the people who come and fill their seats in, are they going to be on the same level of interest? Or are they just going to treat this like another committee to, you know, waste time? Well, and that's the fear, I think, from the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 to bore you to death. But like, that's the whole, that's the whole angle of all of it is that it's subdivided. And that these people are elected officials. They go away. The real powers at hand stay in power. And they're able to continue all the research and all the work.

And then, like, the doors never get fully opened. Well, so when you say about the real people in power, so it's interesting because I don't look at Burleson or Burchett as guys who are nefarious. I don't look at them as guys who are bad guys or anything like that. It makes you wonder. even without their knowledge, you talk about the real people in power, were they installed without even their knowledge for this time, this place, being on this committee? You know, like, you weigh your options and you're like, this guy here, let's just say

Tim Burchett, we know his history, so let's put this in his path because we know he's going to take advantage of this. It's interesting because all three, even Luna, they're all Christians, right? And so you're able to then present a Christian angle to the information that's being represented. and Trump in his whole Christian sphere as well. The interesting thing is the Christian-ish angle because I've heard, I don't want to name-drop any of these people because I don't hold a fence and I don't want to be accusational.

But I've heard some of them say things that I was like, that's not accurate, though. And it's because they were being introduced to this whole new world of information and trying to filter it through a lens that they just found. And so I've heard some statements that I'm just like, that's not, and not according to like what UFOs are kind of thing, but just like the biblical side of thing, like the ancient cosmology and like the book of Enoch and things like that. I'm just like, hmm, that's not true, you know, like even in the book of Enoch, it doesn't say that.

Right. But again, it's like, was there a certain level of orchestration where you have, maybe say you have like a list of 20 people that you approve of being on this committee? And then of that 20 people, a handful actually get elected to be in the Senate and Congress and all that. And then you're just kind of weighing the odds out and trying to filter these people in this direction where they believe that they agreed to come on this committee of their own free will. But the environment around them has been orchestrated to funnel them into that direction. Right. And so then the new people elected have to play catch up all the same. Right. So that's the whole thing.

And so like who's to say that the new people that say they get, they don't get reelected. the new people that get elected, maybe that's a whole new batch of people that have been strategically filtered in that direction to present the next level of this propaganda narrative. So maybe the Christians now exit the room and the spiritualists now enter the room. You know what I mean? And so there's just there's a lot because if you can confuse the Christian side of things, so you have this foundation of Christian that's being represented. Now they get quietly ushered out and now we have spiritualists that,

that some people may be like, oh, what they just said, are they Christian? Hmm, and all of a sudden you have this like, this, this yielding of authority over to a more spiritualist person, that's actually more new age. And all of a sudden you have Christians who are, I hate, I know, I know the, some of these Christian content creators hate when people like me say this, but stuff, you have groups of people in church who now are confused about their own spiritual existence because of the propaganda that they've been exposed to. Yeah. And so, go ahead. Yeah. I mean, they were gained, they gained the trust of the people to be getting. with by putting Christians in an office, basically.

Like, that's kind of the points. Like, you rope them in, and then you, you know, pull the rug from under them. Right. I agree. So I told you guys, this would be a wormhole. And we haven't even got on one of five that we want to discuss today. So let's get to Iran footage jack before I distract anymore. Just hit play before I changed the topic again.

Okay. That's my fault. Incheye are among the Zaman. You'll foyer. Oh, oh. Tehran Bisonan shahri-beri, but what is in the Asimau? Or emam of the time. O'Hare of the time, what is, or abal phas.

It's interesting because when you're looking at the clouds in the foreground, you see the movement, but I think it's the clouds moving. It's not the craft. I think the craft is hovering. What is your, when you see that, Derek, what are some initial gut feelings takes on what you're looking at? Not your theory or philosophies behind anything. But when you see something like that, what is your gut say you're looking at?

It's definitely unknown technology or on technology that has not been out to the public source. So we have no idea what it is or how it's necessarily flying. The lights to me, I feel like are a little bit of a tell that it's most likely some kind of human-made thing. Because, yeah, they have to fly under certain code according to like FAA rules and regulations. And so it was like, not that they would even need to do that in like black budget stuff that they're working on, but...

Or Iran. We don't know. Or Iran or whatever it is. Yeah, but it seems to me like, I mean, it's not, no craft that we've ever seen before. Right? It doesn't follow necessarily like a clean, flying saucer shape that we're used to seeing. Hey, Jack, can you go back?

Oh, yeah, right there, right there. Pause that. Yep. And can you double-tap the screen so it makes just bigger? Make that bigger if you can or not. No? Can't do it. So if you're looking at this image here, it looks like you see the body.

Like when the clouds go in front of the craft, you can distinguish the dark parts of the body of whatever we're looking at compared to the dark sky. So when you go backwards, it kind of disappears because the dark sky is behind it. See what I'm saying? But when you go with a cloud in front of the craft, you see more detail of what you're looking at. And, I mean, you don't see, you don't know what it is.

The most apparent thing is the lights here. But you start seeing pieces of a body there. So it does look like this is actually something physical. We've, you know, covered plenty of times in the show, this idea of, you know, the lights in the sky being spiritual as well, like the Bledso stuff, the Greer stuff. I mean, they're calling things in. I mean, it's just for us, for me, I'll speak for me, but I think you guys agree. Like, it just seems very spiritual, right?

And even the footage that comes from that stuff. This seems very physical. And it's not to say that it's not spiritual at the same time. It very well could be something that originated from another realm spiritually manifesting here, appearing very physical because it is physical. That both can be the same, you know. But that also does look a lot like something that we could have reverse engineered and made. Yeah, because, I mean, we know from what we had talked about in February that,

90 to 95% of everything that is that you see that is extraterrestrial in quote unquote is reverse engineered. Absolutely. That's a great point. It's just interesting too with the lights. It's like why would they... It seems intentional to have the lights running

over a city, right? Yeah. To draw attention to it. Like the whole aspect of everything it was doing was extremely intentional to be seen, to be recorded, to be discussed, right? And this is just like in Buenos Aires,

the same thing that like these lights, the power goes out in Buenos Aires. There's three lights hovering over the city really randomly, like orbs of light or a shape or whatever it is. It just seems like these are very intentional things that are slowly divulging. And I just,

I don't know, I have an icky feeling, you know? I have an icky feeling. I feel like a lot of what they're doing is super intentional to begin this disclosure process. We have to begin to accept that this is a possibility within our own space to see it with a mass crowds. Right. No, I absolutely agree.

And if you look at the idea of private versus public, right? So what are the benefits of each? If you want to flex, say you're a foreign government, just to keep it very elementary, America trying to flex on Iran, right? if you want to flex on a foreign country, your capabilities, and you want to make sure that it doesn't get brushed under the carpet because it's not convenient. You're going to do it in a public manner so that people see it.

It can be recorded, and it forces the discussion to happen. If you want to do it on the public side, if you did it privately, maybe that would be something that would be more along lines of, we don't need to discuss anything. We're just showing you. maybe because there's an ally involved, right? So, like, we talk about the sale of weaponry to other countries. We've sold things to Iran.

We've sold things to people who are supposed to be our enemies, right? And we still sell weaponry. We give them free money, all that stuff. That's been public. So who's to say that there weren't ever private showings of technology that was available to be sold to foreign governments? So maybe there could be so many different things. that. And maybe it's not even our government, but like maybe these private organizations that are

actually developing Lockheed Martin, Skunk Works, things like that. Like, who's to say that they're not holding private showings to foreign governments and they're selling this stuff to many governments across the world and then many governments across the world are using this technology and it seems like everybody has it and it comes from a private sector to the highest bidder. Well, what's really interesting and go vols. They're playing UT. Yeah. And Trump. No, no, no, no, not UT. We are UT. Okay. They're Texas.

Okay. We are the real UT. We're near Knoxville. So it's all the crazy right now. If it wasn't for the balls, Texas wouldn't exist. They'd be considered Mexico. Dude, I love that. Real. That's so good. You saw that too. Yeah. We set Navy Crocker. And we saved your butts. Yeah. Trump's going to be in town, though. Yeah, so Trump's going to be in town. That was my whole point.

So will it be UFOs locally here? Well, so here's what's crazy is this is I'm just, I'm just, people. piecing all this together. Trump just had... Should we have him for... You should reach out. Yeah, yeah. We have connections.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So... I knew it. Tony was a shill. Tony's a chill. Trump just had Xi,

the president Xi from China in. Yes. And what does he do? He flew over a stealth bomber, right as he's getting off his plane. Yeah. Right over... Yeah.

Wow. And so, but like, exactly your point. And then we go to aliens.gov. And what does he do? Inalians.gov, when that comes out, it's Trump. riding a spaceship with a dragon

breathing fire behind him. What? Wasn't that? Isn't it a dragon? Was there like something crazy like that? I don't remember the dragon, but I...

He's flying a ship. Anyway, I'm sorry. Yeah. So the propaganda video? The propaganda video. Because it's actually like illegal aliens and then he's making fun of aliens

and the whole thing. But isn't it just like him then if we were battling with Iran to go send something to go fly over top and basically be pompous and say like, I'm agreeing with you. Like, we have this technology.

What are you going to do about it? Right. We're going to show it in front of everybody. Right. And what's interesting, though, is that September 2020, that means that, oh, no, that would have been the tail end of his administration. So that was right before he got voted out for the first administration. So that would make sense that, like, even his MO.

But I imagine if that's not Trump exclusive, that would be like any government would do something like that. Sure. And I've thought about that, theorized about that for many years, ever since the, I think one of the biggest cases that I talked about that kind of got me in that line of thinking was the triangle UFO, the pyramid-shaped UFO that appeared over D.C. Jack, you know what? You may not be able to. It's fine. But on our YouTube channel, somewhere buried in the archives early days, I made a video about this. If you could find that, pull it up. There's a triangle UFO

over Washington, D.C. in the old house. Like, I think the thumbnail might be even me. in the first studio. So my daughter, my Gemma's bedroom. But you have Arlington Cemetery. Somebody was in Arlington Cemetery at night, saw it, filmed it. Same night,

a car full of guys was driving by the Pentagon. I think it was over the Pentagon. Over the Pentagon. And they were driving by, filmed it. And there was somebody else that filmed it as well. It was three different angles of this, this event. But then there was also,

basically the identical pyramid UFO hovering and everything over Moscow. And for years earlier, though. And so it's like there's this thing that's popping up where it's like, you know, hovering over government buildings all over the world. Well, who's doing that? I mean, could it be, you know, sure, maybe the gray alien people. Maybe it's fallen angels. Or maybe it's some other government organization that's flexing on our countries.

Or maybe it's a private sector displaying what it can do for, the sale to that government, you know? Like, that's a good point. Like, if you're, if you've built something amazing and you're trying to sell it to America, what better way to sell this technology in America than to go right over their, their defense, the Pentagon, do what you, what you say you can do. Sure. And they sit back and say, that's amazing tech.

And there's nothing we can do about what you're doing right now. We want the reins on that. Dr. Doom will take your technology. I would like, I would like, to order five of those, please. Yeah. You know? So like, wait. Why not display the ability of your technology that you've developed than putting it in a position where the government that you're trying to sell to has no ability to stop what you just did?

And they're not, what are they going to do? They're not going to, what, they arrest you? No, they want you the tech and you want to give it to them for the right price. Black budgets, baby. And we'll get into that a little bit later. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, so that was the Iranian footage. But Tim Burchett had, what is that?

This is your video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bring that up. It is up. Oh, okay. You want to watch it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, is it, yeah, I don't know if it's like a spot where people can see what we're talking about or if it's me talking, but hit play, see what happens. Okay.

Oh, yeah, that's a good spot, I guess. Yeah, I know. It's a good spot. What's that she? So it's aliens. It's sheep. I tell you. It's aliens, I tell you.

That's what I said. Gotcha. Yes, yes. I mean, sorry. So right there. Yeah. So I did a little bit of enhancing on this. That was my early days of I-movie. And so, like you can see it. You can see it rotating the bottom of it. That's crazy. Yeah. And this was over the Pentagon. Right. And what I always loved about it was that you did, like you said, it had three different recordings of it, which would make it to me like super valid. And this is before AI and everything else.

Right. Well, before we had access to AI. I interviewed that guy. So YouTube named Alex dude, I found him, talked to him, and in this video, I interviewed him of what he saw that night. Wow. That's crazy. And so it was only a short interview, maybe 20 minutes or so. And then I think somewhere in here I showed the footage over Moscow as well on the same video. But, yeah, that's the car footage.

Show the car footage. These guys driving in their car filming this over the band. Yep. Yeah. Absolutely is. What are you doing at night where you see something like that? Like, what are you going to do? You're going to keep driving towards it?

Drive, I mean, yeah, you drive towards it. You stop when you can't go any further and you film. Get out your anointing oil. That's crazy, right, Jack? That's crazy. I mean, you see, you literally see the triangle aspect of it. Upside down, too. Yeah.

You know, and maybe some people would say this is Project Bluebeam, you know, and it's not even real. It's a projection to generate conversation. Isn't the movie Stargate where a giant, like, pyramid comes down out of space and then opens a portal. Stargate? Is it Stargate? It's an old one, yeah. I think you might be right. The pyramid, and they go

into like ancient Egypt. Yeah, and it's like an inverted pyramid that comes down and basically opens a portal for them to like enter through. You know, it's crazy. I just saw this now. That movie's Stargate, the the information, or the guy when he's drawing the pyramid and the people worshipping the pyramid, he connects all that.

It's like the aha moment. I remember I must have been an elementary school or something. I don't know. Whenever it came out that I watched this movie, I remember drawing that on my book covers and stuff because I was so fascinated by the movie. And like, little things like that sparked the memory of my childhood and how far back it goes from my interest in these things. I just didn't have any

way to express it. I just I was always drawn to the lights. You know? But no, that was a fun movie. I should probably watch that again. So, yeah, anyways, triangle UFOs over the Pentagon. And these are things that, you know, could be foreign actors to private people who are looking to sell a product, you know. We had Tim Burchett giving some of his take on the Iran UFO.

I'd like to have that pulled up and people can see it. This was on, I believe, Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson. Benny Johnson. You know, Benny Johnson is somebody who dances around the circle of these things,

but never really wants to fully commit to talking to me. So, one of these days. I doubt it. I doubt it. Okay. Here we go.

Four to end. And, we found the original post here. We found the guy. He shows up. He's legit. There's not a community note on this. No.

Right? It's not like some type of. I agree. It's legit. It's something up there. It's just what is it. And I just wish we could get more. more from out of Washington.

They just released some other stuff that was allegedly classified. Again, I've talked to Stephen Miller about this. He called me at the house, which was unusual. And, oh, wow, I've never seen the circular version. That is different country, right? Winnes and Eras from last night as well. Oh, yeah, Buenos Aires.

I did see that one. I'm sorry. I thought that was. Power out of Buenos Aires. Can you pause it? But he. So the Buenos Aires one, it really does remind me of drone.

They're, they're, I think it was in Hawaii or somewhere, there was like a drone show. And I don't remember exactly what it was the shape of and stuff, but I feel like it was similar to this. And people were like, you know, look at this, UFO and this, that and the other. And it was actually like a drone show from a like a hotel or resort or something like that. And so like, I'm not saying that's what this is, but I'm just saying it reminds me of that. Yeah. And with these drops, this is like the thing that I've been accused in the government of for this whole thing is these drops, they're giving us no context. They know what they're releasing, right?

So, like, we'll talk about that as well. But, like, they know what they're releasing and they're deliberately, you can't be this far into the drops and not be doing it on purpose, not releasing context with what they're dropping. And so they're releasing footage that maybe they know, oh, those are drones, but to pass. classify their desires to see and know more will give them this stuff so that keeps the conversation going. And so there's a lot of bait and switch happening right now. And so, you know, you take that footage, the Buenos Aires footage for what it is. Is it actual UFO interdimensional type stuff? Or is it simply a drone show that somebody didn't understand it was a drone show, took footage of it,

submitted it, whatever the process is, it gets it in the hands of their archives. and then they see that, they know what it is, but release it because it's a cool video. And hey, it's the disclosure drops. Everything goes, you know,

because that's what's happening. Everything's going. Like, old information repackaged as new. We'll talk about that today. We've talked about it before. They have literally taken old documentation that was declassified for 20 years

and released it through these files as if it was something new and people are running with it. Oh my gosh, this is new. And it wasn't new. And here's the thing. Even if that was done where we're like, well, we're just giving you all the information. The fact that they have people

running around saying this is new information, they should be willing and have some kind of structure in place to be able come out and say, here's what's not new. Here's what's new. Here's the top five things that we're releasing that we think you should be aware of and stuff. Here's, you know, we have, we're releasing 500 things, right? We can't express everything to you in this drop. But here's the top five things we think you should be really focused on. But you can look at everything. Here's the things that we've debunked. Here are the things that we haven't debunked. And here's the top five things that we think you should look at and what we so far understand it to be. That would be transparency. That would be what I would expect a responsible disclosure to be.

I completely agree. Because we get these tidbits, right? And then a lot of them are like alleged reports or they have like theories tied to them. And so there's no like context for if this is what they believe. If this is what they've proven, why are they releasing it? Like it wouldn't be hard for them to actually have like a little one page because all they're doing is downloading these old documents from some of them already released and then just re-reloading them to this website. Right. You know, and it's like, I totally agree. They should have some kind of context to what it is we're looking at and why we're looking at it. Right. And it's like, well, if you can say, well, who's going to do that? Well, here's the thing. You have the data. We'll get into data that

they have that they have not releasing later today too. But you have the data, make an intern do it. You guys you guys think have interns coming out the wazoo like there you have you have lackeys

everywhere sit one of these young 20 year old kids down in front of a camera with a teleprompter

and all they do is read the statement as to here's what we believe and that goes out on on war.gov with every drop at the top of every drop

is a video with the government's statement as to what they think is important drop. We want you to look into all things because we're being transparent in this disclosure. We want you to look into it all. But for our conclusions, here's our top five. Here's what we think about it. Please let us know if you discover something that we should be made aware of. Email us at

whatever, whatever, right? Yeah, I mean, it's exactly what you've mentioned before on our show is that, like, there's no context. So we're like, we're getting all this information, no context. So it's really up for the interpreter to interpret like what they want. want to see and how they want to make it happen. Hence the portals in the sky. That's my interpretation. That's my interpretation. Portals in the sky. Watch out, guys. We're going up. And it could be so misleading at the same time. And that's what's so dangerous about like

the way they're doing it. There's no accountability because, oh, here's a file. I don't know what it means. You don't know what it means. Let's interpret it the best way we can. I mean, there was reports of a fire breathing monster, right, like in the files that people were putting out. And that was totally a debunked. File from Project Blue Book, I believe, you looked into it too, but what I heard was that it was a Project Blue Book case that they looked at from out of Virginia and they debunked it or whatever. But it's things like that that you're putting in there. And then, you know, somebody half listening. Because how does this even come up in our conversation the other day when we were talking about what we're doing today?

And it's because I had heard somebody mention about some kind of fire breathing dragon or something in the drop. That's all I heard. And I was like, what? You know, it turns out it was a nothing burger. It was absolutely nothing. Yeah. So it's actually, I have it up right here. And it's actually a return letter from like a lady writes a letter asking about what was going on basically with the Flatwoods monster report.

And then I think in the letter, she's referring to it as a fire breathing monster. And he's basically debunking that to her and saying, we haven't had reports. So it's basically a debunking letter of a fire breathing monster. But yet in all of the internet and social media, they want to push this as like a topic that has been discussed that there's fire breathing monsters. So it's incredibly misleading. Like there needs to be some kind of context to these files.

And like the thing is too, the government has given context to different declassified documents in the past and declassified drops. And so it's like if they wanted to give the context, they would give the context. They did, they gave some context to the j. JFK files. They gave some context to the family jewels with the CIA. Like, there's a lot of different things that they have in the past.

And in some cases, extensively given context to and background. So it's like this is just one of those things where it's clearly something that was just either to placate or to, you know, live up to a campaign promise. And in a way that it's just here you go, have this and figure out for yourself what's actually right and wrong in here. Yeah. You know, it's messy on purpose. You know, so you're talking about context that they gave throughout history on other, you know, releases of information. What's the, outside of this, what's the most recent mega release of information? Epstein files, same formula. Dropping tons of information with no context, making you, making available to the whole world,

but who's going to dive into it more than anybody else, conspiracy theories, people who've looked into it for a long time with their own preconceived notions already, trying to basically find information to prove their theories and thoughts on the topic already, and that is what's going to run in service to the top. It's the same thing that's happening with this. Over time, we're going to see a overall arching idea that's understood and accepted by the masses of a definition that was never actually given by the government itself. It was actually something that was defined over time by a collective of people all over the world who all came to a very similar conclusion.

with information that was misleading to begin with. It's just the way this is going and its way it's going to go. Jack mentioned about campaign promises. I think there's, I think the idea of a campaign promise is so far out the window at this point. I think there's something more nefarious going on. And first of all, campaign promises never meant anything historically in the past, right? Absolutely. He can't be reelected after this.

So all his campaign promises don't matter. matter anymore. That's why they stopped trying to impeach him. They did the first time around because he's not a threat after this time. And so it's just like it's wasted energy. Just focus on tearing down each other's parties to the point that you might have the best opportunity as possible come election time to win again and run with your own agendas and not the agendas of the people. It's just the way this works. That's why I don't get caught up in the politics stuff anymore because it's just like they're all in it for themselves. So I'm in for myself. I'm just going to follow Jesus. I'm going to follow what my call in life is, and I'm going to preach Jesus to people.

And that's my agenda because they're on their agenda on my agenda. We're all good. So that's way I look at it. So what are we just talking about? The Iran UFO. Yeah. Buenos Aires, the drones. Yeah, drones, I guess. Yeah. Anyways, so there's that. That was number one of my five. So we're cooking through this list really fast, guys. Before we go any further, Let's just bring up this idea, though, of Daniel 10, because the other day I did a show with Alan De Deio and Alan Deio and Riley Ragland, Larry Ragland. And we talked about the stuff we're kind of talking about today in a lot less detail. And Larry brought up Daniel 10, the Spirit Prince of Persia. And it's something that I've talked about a lot and I will continue to because I think it's one of the best images that we have of spiritual warfare.

in the second heaven in the heavenlies and how it actually affects this realm in the moment it's happening but the idea of the spirit prince of persia being still active today is that what we see in the sky with our modern ability to our modern language you know and so what we when we look up in iran and we see these lights in the sky and things like that if you if you take the physical side of a way reverse engineered away if it is a truly spiritual thing Are we seeing the manifestation of the spirit prince of Persia? Are we seeing the manifestation of a spiritual war overflowing into this realm? What would that look like?

You know, obviously, I would love to see another UFO come in and shoot laser beams at the other one. We're like, oh, war! You know, but we don't know what it looks like, right? And a lot of times, spiritual warfare, it has a lot to do with man's heart and separating us from God. and so how the tactics of the enemy accomplish that goal is varied. So I just, I find it interesting

that this UFO thing happening in Iran and we have this, this chapter in the book of Daniel, talking all about this hovering over Iran, Persia, modern day Iran. And, oh, and then Ali Seadotin

in his testimony of when he was with his parents and he was sharing, Jesus with his parents in Iran who are Muslims, and they're driving somewhere, and they have a UFO fly well within sight, and he describes something coming out of the ground and basically receiving, if I remember correctly, Jack, is that right? Yep. Yeah, so something comes out of the ground, and this UFO goes down into it, seems very physical, seems very technological.

And I said to him, what do you think that was? I didn't expect the answer I got. I thought he would say, you know, Iran's obviously working on secret. tech and they're dangerous or whatever, right? You know, he's Iranian. He can't go back home because he's a Christian. He says, without skipping a beat, he says it's the spirit prince of Persia. He identified what he saw and described as a very physical thing as a spiritual principality. And I was like, wow, that says a lot. So when we look at something in these videos that seem very physical, and we can theorize what it is, somebody who also saw something very close,

very clear, physical, has biblical understanding. And without hesitation said, still, that was the spirit prince of Persian. That should hold weight. I think that's an important point you're making too, though, is that there is an origin to all of this that is not human made. And that is the real caveat to all of this is that somewhere along the lines, there are some kind of craft interdimensional portal machines, whatever they are that the spiritual realm has been using to puncture through into our dimension. And so, I mean, it is, this is like ancient astronaut theory. This is some even like Marzuli, some of these guys think that this technology has been around.

It is angelic, so to speak, if it's fallen. You know, but like there is a origin source to all these ships that have been reverse engineered that we, I think we are seeing at a higher clip than the actual original source material. Hey, dude, I mean, think of it this way. maybe one day there's no need for the actual original source material to be here because we reverse engineered so successfully so at mass that we use we have perfectly redesigned what they wanted us to redesign and maybe when they're working alongside of humanity they're just using the reverse engineer technology that we built for them to carry out their operation you know maybe they're saving maybe they're saving second heaven bucks you know like it's a little a few little less coin on the

on the metallic materials that they had to import, you know? You never know. I told you guys, it's a jovial show. Second heaven bank. The second heaven bank, you know,

the second bank of the second heaven. Not the first bank. First bank is in third heaven. Would that be the third bank? First bank, first heaven, second. Anyways,

okay. Moving on. So, seriously, let's move on the number two. The Colorado footage, the civilian footage, I think I sent that to you, Jack,

it was the officer. And that would be on the government website. It's a cell phone recording. Originally it was, I believe, 15 minutes long. And there's two, they have both on the website, but I think I sent Jack the one that was a short one, like a minute.

And I would like to look at this because, honestly, I don't know exactly what I'm looking at. But it was a cell phone recording from 2023, mute your phone, Derek. What's wrong with you? Sorry, I'm wrong. Later submitted to Arrow, partially blurred before release, reporting officer described a silent object with red, blue, and green flashing lights.

Sounds like what we've been talking about this entire show so far. If you have that ready, Jack, I'd love to kind of look at that with the people. Love the, it's just beautiful audio. Yep, no audio, I guess. No audio. Yeah, so we're just going to add lib. So it's like a really crappy video footage, and it looks like, you know, obviously heavily filtered. and it looks like it's almost like

been broken down into stages you know, like it's not smooth. I'm lacking the words, but I don't see the coloring that it has been described. Does it come in a little later? It might. I haven't, to be honest, I haven't watched a full video so we can just keep it rolling.

But I'll add some commentary here as we watch this. What we're seeing, I think it was four lights in the sky moving around, Is this what it is? Okay, if this is what it is, then it's irrelevant as to what I was just going to say. There's definitely like refraction or reflection going on that looks like four dots of like a UFO, but it's just definitely light reflection. Yeah, exactly.

But if that's not what we're supposed to be looking at, then let's look a little closer. So we just have a ball of light. I guess this is what makes me so frustrated is that like so much of what they give us is not actually like mechanical in any way, like almost everything that they've dumped to us. has been this. Yeah. It's like literally like a blurry Sasquatch. Like we got nothing but like these orbs of light.

These like non-mechanical, non-looking functioning things. Yeah. They have no way for us to like understand propulsion, where it's flying, how it's flying, if there's even like passengers inside or like anything like that. All we get are orbs of light in all these drops. And it's actually incredibly frustrating. Yeah.

Yeah, and it's funny because you brought out the blurry Sasquatch side of things. And it's like people who say, you know, the people who are doubters and stuff, they'll say, how come we can't get one that isn't blurry? It's in 4K. And now we're saying the same thing to the government who's releasing information in my video. How come we can't get one that's not blurry and in 4K, right? How can we can't have a stabilized footage? I mean, literally, any of the shaky footage that's on these releases and stuff, I could go and stabilize, except. well with using cap cut, my finger, and my iPhone. Like, I've done it. So, like, it's a lot of lack of effort, right? And part of it might be, honestly, there was no effort going into

leading up to the commitment to release the files. So they just were in constant scramble mode to gather and gather files and release. But even so, it doesn't cover up for the fact that they're releasing with no context. Yeah. I mean, like, Even if you traditionally don't have files sitting around with this that you can just grab and release and you have to collect it all, fine.

But as you're collecting, somebody needs to be gathering data and having at least a three-person conversation behind the door saying, okay, what do we think is probably the best thing for people to look at? Let's just give them some kind of context and then let them go. Let them know what we don't know about. Like what do we, what are the things that we know? And then the things that are a big question mark for us, we don't know. We don't know. Maybe you know, that would be transparent. So there's the civilian footage there, but then also tied to that.

And this is something that I tried finding on the actual release page. So I don't know if this is a misinterpretation or what. We don't have footage of this. But apparently the Department of War declassified two more Pikes Peak area, which I guess is Colorado Springs. Maybe that's why, because I didn't look for Colorado Springs. I look for Pikes Peak. I don't know. but their UAP sightings both were heavily redacted, both released with an official government

rendering of the object October 2023. Now, the interesting thing is the Colorado civilian footage the officer took. That was also October 2023. So this is supposedly a separate incident that happened in October, 2003, in the same location. So the report is two employees, employees of what? I don't know. watched a dark gray,

I want people to listen to this, cloud-like mass phase into view, roughly the size of a parking lot, three to five stories thick, hovering at 3,000 to 5,000 feet. It then accelerated to Mach 1 or 2, with waves radiating off of it as it turns.

So this is, if this is true, excuse me, there goes my voice again. if this is true there there could be a case made that one

it's associated to the civilian footage there could be a case made that let me get it with drink of water real quick play some music for me there could be a case made that maybe there was some kind of UFO UAP flap in that period of time where things were popping in and up

popping in and out but two employees reports seeing this in 2023, there more than likely is some kind of footage of it. Whether the government has it or these people have it, you have two people seeing something like this

and the action that they say they saw at some point, probably not the very beginning of this testimony, like when it says the cloud-like phased into view, you probably don't have that on video. But the actual description of what it was or what it looked like and then what it did, at some point

you think that somebody pulled a phone out and filmed it. Right? And so, maybe it's in the drops and I wasn't able to find it. But I would like to see the footage, you know,

if this is true. So, what are we going to say, Jack? No, no, okay. Keep going. So, the,

watched a dark gray cloud-like mass phasing the view. The cloud-like mass idea is, see that, I found that earlier. Is that what it is? Right there.

Turn out the lights. I can't even see it with that. So, that's so, okay so um is that was that from like a ring cam maybe

uh that's a rendering digital rendering they don't actually it seems like they don't actually have it I bet you there's footage of it I mean maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm wrong you just don't know how people are going to react in the moment you know maybe you don't want to take your eyes off of it right

but what I find interesting is that we talked about this a while back probably sometime last year one of these drops or maybe it wasn't even a drop maybe it was a before drop. There was a document that you, it was Immaculate Constellation, right? Mm-hmm. That document in there says that UAPs,

some of them look like clouds, and they look like a funny-shaped cloud, like an oddly shaped cloud. Mm-hmm. And if you had, I think it was, it wasn't Night Vision, I think it was IR, if you had an IRRA camera,

yeah. And you held it up and looked at that oddly shaped cloud, there's a strong chance that it's not a cloud at all and you'd actually see the craft for what it is. Mm-hmm. And so when these people are saying,

they washed a dark gray cloud-like mass, phase into view. It takes me back to that statement of that document. Sure. So, I mean, we're probably looking at that. And again, Justin from Crypto to the Corn, he... Biological UFOs. Most likely would have a heyday with this. I'm sure he already knows about it.

But he probably is like, I've been saying it, wrote a whole book on it. If you can find his book, Jack, and put it up on the screen, or at least tell people about it. I can't remember what it was called. But he wrote a book about biological UFO. that exist in the sky. I don't even want to say it's a theory because a lot of the information he's sharing

and talking about is actually stuff that is factual. Like the water in the sky and so much water up there that we could, you know, something could live up there. I mean, like a firmament? Yeah, like a firmament.

Like a firmament. Like a firmament. That's good. Yeah, what was it called? Living UFOs. Boom. There it is. Screen grab that, friends, and show the boys some support. He's a really good guy. He's been in the studio, I think, a couple times. All right, so I just found that interesting.

Colorado situation, interesting. Could there have been a flap there? Or are we talking about possibly different perspectives of the same event or different stages of the same event, you know? So, yeah, found it interesting. Do you have anything before we go on to Ruble? Well, I think I'm actually going to segue right into it really nicely. So if we go into the Ruplit audio, there's actually some really interesting. And before we get to what I had pinned for Jack to play, he actually also, in like minute 36, discusses how they want actual physical evidence. So Ruplett is. Bonaca.

Sorry, I got my sub-trap. So they actually want physical evidence. And so Rupert is part of the original project Blue Book. And so this is later on, he's having this huge discussion about all this. And he's explaining that they plan to distribute cameras with diffraction grading at white sands and Sandia and other sensitive installations. So they were going to use spectroscopy that might reveal the composition of whatever was producing the observed light. So basically it's exactly what we're talking about with the Amachyphala constellation using IRR. Like they're trying to install technology to where they can begin to break down and have these craft more observable as opposed to just being light.

But using the fullness of the light spectrum to then be specific and then have a better rendering of what actually people are seeing. So the orb is just like what we can see. our physical realm, that there could be a lot more going on in the outer parts of visible light spectrum that are occurring that we can actually gather through other means of technology. Which goes to later in our conversation with the orbs and what they could be and what they reverse engineering. Very interesting. Yeah. So Ruplett doing all this, working with the Project Blue Book, he has this audio. And if we could play that audio, I think it's what a minute long. I mean, it's an hour-long audio, but I think the clip we have is like a minute or so.

But I find it interesting. Let me ask, before you hit play on that, Jack, members that are watching and listening, I've been doing some, you know, different types of member episodes, trying to have some fun with it and just kind of like do different stuff, right? Informative things. And right before we went live, I was thinking, this might be something fun to just go through the entire hour audio, listening to it with the members, and then, doing live reaction to things that stick out to me,

so that they get a chance to listen to the whole audio, but also with a little bit more, I mean, maybe some added value, you know? You have 1952 audio. How does that happen and break down to in 2026? Well, maybe, you know, by listening to it together, we could discern some things that maybe are just flying under the radar just with that audio alone.

So, Jack, give them a sample of that. that audio. That'd be awesome. Leave us in awe of the audio. Around all the ports in the United States, San Francisco, Los Angeles, the coastal area around New York City and New Orleans, there's concentrations. Around Los Alamos and the Albuquerque area, there's concentrations. Around White Sands, there's concentrations. And down here at Camp Hood, Texas. Now, this Campwood, Texas concentration was due to an outbreak, of odd lights about two years ago. They never did determine exactly what the lights were.

They were a special, we might say a special type of report that haven't occurred again, and we haven't paid too much attention to that. But the ones around Oak Ridge and the ones around Albuquerque may possibly mean something. We don't know. The rest of the reports are pretty well scattered out around the United States. Very interesting. They bring some Oak Ridge. Again, Oakridge comes up, and we have a particular interest in Oak Ridge because it's in our backyard.

From where we're sitting, it's what, 45 minutes away? It's like 15 miles. Yeah, it's not far away at all. Which, you know, interestingly, if there's so much activity around the Oak Ridge area, historically, I don't know if I've ever really looked into, the greater Oak Ridge area, which would be this area. What's the history of the UFO type of things seen in the sky? we know the cryptid side of things, which maybe are contributing to the Oakridge or Oakridge contributing to the cryptid side of things. This is also a very spiritually charged area. Is there something maybe to look into with all these hot spots that he's talking about when

he called him concentration zones or spots? Do all those spots typically have a history of some kind of like spiritual anchoring, you know? And so there's a lot of things to maybe try to connect the dots on when it comes to all these different locations and the history. history of them and what was there, maybe even before the installation was there, of, you know, the military or whatever. But very interesting, it brings up Oakridge and the connection there. So I think you had mentioned the other day, Derek, that when he left Project Blue Book, things changed, right? Yeah. So, well, before we move on real quick, because I think there's really important in the

other drops that we've also mentioned is that there's a high connection to, Russian UFO activity. And so they're like in a lot of these reports, even at Oak Ridge, they had early sightings in Oak Ridge that were at like 50, 60,000 feet elevation. And they hypothesized at the time that it could have been Russian technology. And so is this, what we're seeing at these hotspots, is it our technology? Is it a Cold War Soviet technology? Because they also gathered their own bunch of Russians or I'm sorry, Nazis, in

Russia into the Soviet Union and began their own reverse engineering process. So, like, with these hotspots, because they are military complexes, you know, there's always been the theory that, like, the aliens are because of atomic energy, like, they're, they're absorbing or they're interested in going to these areas. I think it could be really just an aspect of spying from our adversaries. And they have the same, like, at least the Soviets had the same technology, according to these disclosure papers that we had at the same time. Yeah.

I was waiting for Jack to come in and like, that's his sign. I know, I thought he was going to throw it in. I'm about to rip. No. I just say the hotspots. It's like, like, yes, like there could be spiritual components.

I think there's also a very much a cold war UFO aspect that I think everyone has been ignoring very, very long time. And I think these papers give us a lot of credence and evidence to make a case that this is what's really been going on for a long time. In the same way we said, like, oh, the Iranian, maybe that's someone like, you know, being pompous and showing off that we have these capabilities to do that in front of you, right? And I think this could have been going on in the 50s. They were using this technology to go and to spy on very high-level security installations.

It just makes sense. Totally does. Absolutely makes sense. Thank you, Jack. This time, this time. Yeah, I just say, it shows you that the government doesn't know everything. Like, we're kind of like going through these files and, you know, trying to parse. it all together, but I think it's pretty evident, especially from the, I think it was the last

time that we discussed the UFO file drops, and that Derek is referencing with the Soviets, that they didn't actually know if it was Soviet craft technology or what it really was, that they were, uh, the reports were coming from. And so like, there is probably a level of what they're releasing right now that they didn't even really know what was, what the reports were, where they were coming from because it wasn't their technology, you know, and maybe they're even, you know, maybe they're self-reporting. I don't know. And, you know, they do know what's actually going on. They do know what the technology is, but they're just self-reporting to, you know, kind of foolsome people. But at the same time, I do think there is a level to which they don't know, like, the governments do not know what each government has that is their secret technology. I mean, that's the whole point of the covert, you know, planes that they're making the, what's the, what's that like, what's that like super secret plane that they have? Oh, TR3B.

TR3B. Yeah. Like, I mean, there's these, these, these. reconnaissance and spy craft that they're making, coupled with all of the cyber technology and everything, I mean, there's a level of unknowing that a lot of governments have around the world about what the others have. So that's where I'm just kind of looking at it. I'm seeing, you know, a connection of maybe there is, when they're reporting some of this stuff, especially the Soviet things, the U.S. government may not have even actually known what was going on in all honesty. Yeah. No, and I agree. And it kind of goes back to the theory I was presenting earlier too, where if governments don't know what's going on then, could it be private

sector development showing off, like you said, to governments or private sector selling to certain governments in the world, you know, because they paid for it, and then them going and doing the spying, and then other governments over time go to private sector, purchase their own, now they're doing it, and now you have these different governments using this technology that didn't originate from within the governments, but the private sector. Where did the private sector get the technology, that's the big question. If the United States government wants to develop super secret technology that's on this level, and it is coming from another location, another realm, you can't have somebody who's elected and is not going to be in office a decade later to be

accessing that kind of information. You can't be doing it yourself. And so if you have private sector that requires black masses, conjuring to gather that information to, build these things, it has to be done in the private sector where everything's done behind closed doors. And once you're in, you're in forever because you're not voted. You're not a public figure. You don't exist. And then once that is developed and you're ready to rock, then you start selling it to these governments. Yeah, like look at Disclosure Day. You look at that company. I forget what the name of the company was. It's like Warren or something like that. But that's a privately owned company that works in tandem with the government. But the government doesn't

know everything. That's the whole point of that. that is that the CEO or leader of that company, he's the one that's handling that alien craft technology. Right. You know, and so, I mean, to that point, they're definitely not going to be releasing everything to the government. And, I mean, the government's going to develop its own technology. They're going to reverse engineer the things that they have control over, but they're definitely not going to know everything. And there's going to be private sector that has very, very, very high capabilities with technology. So at some point, there's a bridge and a merger between private and and the government. Somebody has to communicate with somebody else to get this ball rolling

to get it in their hands. But how did it come together? How does it work? How does it, how does it, how does it, how does it, how does it, how does it, how's it built? Behind closed doors so that there's a very, there's only very few options of points of content between, a contact between the private sector and the highest of the highest of governments. And a lot of times, that's probably black budget operation. It is black budget operations. So it's not even on the books. And then years later, you have dorks in a studio talking about UFO drops and trying to piece together things that will never actually have full data and information on. Yeah, I mean, it actually goes back all the way to like 1946.

There was the original Atomic Energy Act, and they were actually already using companies like General Electric, Monsanto, like these huge corporations were already part of the Manhattan project and the development of that technology. So, and then when does all the UFO flap start? it all starts at 1946, 1947, right? Like, this is where all the sightings. This is where everything starts blowing up is right after World War II. I mean, there are some very interesting stories right before and even like through the history of like time.

Like, there's, you know, ancient astronaut theories. They have like incredible like hieroglyphs and weird things, the show ships and things like that. Like that could be that low 1%. But for the overall, a lot of this, I agree with you. think has been pushed into the private sector. They've had access to these things for a very long time. And what's really interesting is even in the other act in 54, they talk about how they, it's like a need to know basis. So it's like they'll give Tony Merkel a piece of information so that you can research and develop. And it's only a need to know. And then all of a sudden your private sector, you're not even government anymore.

Then I give Jack a whole different portion to go investigate in research. You guys don't know what you're either. other are even working on because you're not like clear for that level of security. And so someone is the master controller of all the information, which I think is a very, very small group of people that actually know, they're not elected. They're not elected. They can't be because like what we talked about. Like Bichette only having like six months left or whatever it is before he's out in February or January, whatever that is, the swore and possibly. But like again, so like these guys come and go.

It's a rotating wheel. And so you start a whole new process. You need people. This is what they've talked about, like, being like the dark government, the black, like this secret government that's operating behind the scenes. It is infiltrated with the private sector. It is also part of this whole UFO disclosure. It is part of all of these crazy conspiracies because they kind of all intergrade into themselves. And a lot of them, even portals and CERN, like all of this revolves around atomic energy.

And so they've had the capability to isolate and to do research and to break huge. human rights laws and do anything they wanted to do in the name of science so they can advance because it's just like AI what we talked about last week. They don't care the means, like they don't care what comes at the end of it. They want to be first. And it's the same thing we saw here for the last decades, almost what it's been. It's been 80 years. So the last 80 years has been the same case. The U.S. doesn't want to be behind the Soviets. Doesn't want to be behind China. They'll do anything they can, even if it means infringing on the civil liberties and rights of their own people, to attain the technology to be the ones that are at the head of the snake.

And this is just, it's sad. And like when you really unravel all of it, it's really disheartening thing that our government could be so against us. And it's not even like the elected officials. And that's what's so crazy, right? It's like, it's not all of them. It's been a system that's been built over all these decades. But like it's like any, it's like any poison, right? The more that you have, the more that you're going to feel the effect of it.

And I think the longer that you're in Congress or the longer that you're in that position, the more that the effect of the control aspect is going to take over how you make your plans. And that's why I do see, you see the people who are career politicians. They're the ones that tend to be the most susceptible to manipulation. And I mean, like to your point about the public or the government private sector, you know, communications, we see that in like real time when you talk about lobbying. That's what we see as the public. We see the public or the public-private communications being, you know, something that is just being bought and paid for, basically, for your vote, for your, you know, campaign promises, all these things. And so it's kind of like, to me, especially if you're trying to stay in the government for as long as possible, which a lot of these elected officials do, you're going to do everything you can to have as good a relationship with these companies as possible. And then you go deeper from not just the surface level of these companies that are on the surface showing that they're going to lobby.

and pay for these politicians. It's like, well, what are they doing behind the scenes? How much blackmail is there? Because you talk about Epstein, how much blackmail was used with that in order for them to be able to continue pushing their own agendas, the private sector, you know, and developing these things and controlling it, maintaining the technology to their own standard, right, rather than the government having control over it. Yeah.

Go ahead. No, no, you're good. No, and I think it's important, like, also this aspect of technology, Jack, is it's not just limited to reverse engineer craft. We're talking about like multi-level aspects of technology, which is why we see it in almost every industry. We're seeing it in the food industry. We're seeing it everywhere. It's because it's infiltrated, like the cause and the means to an end started way back here. And it really is rooted all in this secret covert work that they've been doing for so long. Go ahead. Yeah. I feel like you guys are just doing filler for me. No?

No. Okay. Okay, cool. No. Okay. Okay, good. Let me just, you guys are saying this stuff, and it's just, it's sparking this. So listen, what you're describing, Derek, what you're describing Jack, is man placed in leadership of countries, operating and doing things out of their own will for their own desires, and to self-serve, to problem-solve on their own, to get ahead on their own, all underneath their own authority and power. And this pattern is all throughout Scripture. And I got two spots here.

One's in Second Chronicles, Old Testament, Old Israel, and the other one is in Acts with Paul. So like in Second Chronicle 16, verse 7, you have King Asa, and he's been approached by a seer where I imagine a prophet. And he just says, because you have put your trust in the king of Aram, who was their enemy. So he worked up like an agreement with the king to bring everything into a close.

So because you put your trust in that king, instead of the Lord, your God, you missed your chance to destroy the army of the king of Aram. So like he literally, instead of going to God and relying on God and trusting in God to provide the pathway forward. He took it in his own hands, his own means to problem solve the situation himself. And the very thing he was trying to do that he essentially gave up on because he didn't consult in God is the very thing he lost out on because he didn't go to God. Right. And so there's that. But then in Acts 17, Acts 17 verse 26, Paul says, from one man, he created all nations. throughout the whole earth.

So God creates the nations, right? Not man. He decided beforehand when they should rise and when they should fall, and he determined their boundaries. Verse 27, his purpose was for the nations

to seek after God. And that is like the the whole thing right here that everything that we were discussing right now is we have man running countries and they're going against God's purpose, which was for these countries to seek after God. Seeking after God, he provides the way.

From Chronicles to Acts, you have situations where people stop seeking after God, take it into their own hands, and then because of that, God says, you will not get what you were seeking for because you didn't wait on me. And so everything you're saying here, I'm just like, it's the same story.

It is. It's just the same story, different generation. And so anyways, should we keep it moving? Yeah. Okay. Cool. I just, when you were saying that, it hit me, I was like, this is, huh, interesting.

So, Rupert, I don't know if you actually said this about the propaganda. Did you even get that point? Oh, no, I never got back to it. Let's bring it in for a landing with you. 30 minutes later. No, it's fine. So, yeah, so Rupert was actually, he was the head of Project Blue Book. and so he did all his research

and he's actually in this audio as well he says that 20% of his research of almost I think 1,000 cases, 900, whatever it was at that time almost 20% were some of a source of unknown source so like he had no idea how to categorize it how to quantify it, how to

express it, it was completely unknown and so this they and then after he left though it got down to almost like 1% because it became a de facto propaganda a machine to just basically debunk any kind of UFO activity. Because I think we were getting too close to actual U.S. technology at that juncture.

Yeah. You know, and so it was just easier to say all of it's fake. It's a bunch of cooks. It's a bunch of crazies. You know, it's swamp gas and cloud farts and whatever else that you needed to be. And then just debunk all of it with bad science. And so he was really pivotal with J. Allen Heineck to actually investigate. these very seriously and to actually put some credibility behind what they were doing.

And so at 20% of unknown is pretty profound for that time frame. Absolutely. Absolutely profound. And so he exits. And speaking of like the idea of what he did, what he worked on, the hot zones, all that stuff, one of them I think has been talked about in these releases. without actually being mentioned. And that's Skinwalker Ranch.

And so, like, in 1952, there was a UFO swarm over Utah. I think we have the footage of that, right? I sent that. I think that was one of the government files that I sent you, Jack. The video of objects swarming over Utah in 1952. And I'll just stop there on this. And I'd like to show people the footage of the swarm. from 1952.

So we ask why are there no, there's no footage today of certain events? They got footage in 1952 of the swarm. Who had the camera? You know, where'd the footage come from? Jack, if you pull that up, that'd be awesome. And I don't think this one has any audio either.

So we will, if you look, though, you can see this swarm of dots, center frame popping in. Have you seen this yet, Derek? Yeah, I saw this one. And to make your point, it's like even we just read Rupert's report, and he's also talking about trying to use surveillance, right, like to actually capture more of this. Right. So if that's been on their mindset, even in the 52s, like, I agree with you, they must have tons of footage. Oh, tons.

Yeah. Tons. We're at the point now where this is deliberate. Like, they're deliberately, you know, and I will put a stamp on that statement in a few minutes here. but having footage like this, I mean, for 1952, you can consider that to be clear footage. Sure. And we can't get footage from the Colorado case that we were just talking about. Granted, maybe they didn't think to film it.

But somebody in 1952 thought about filming a swarm, had the technology to film it. We can't even get footage from the Jersey drone attacks like six, a few months ago. Yeah. You know, where's the footage from? for that stuff. Well, it was more than a few months ago now. Oh, yeah. I'm old.

It was during Biden. Time flies, Derek. Oh, wow. It's been that long. That's before your time here. But, no, I agree. I hear what you're saying. So you have this, like, this nod.

So you have 1952, you have Ruplit with this audio. In 1952, you have this UFO swarm in Utah. And in Utah, we have one of these locations that he called concentrations, It's a location. It's a concentration of anomalous activity called Skinwalker Ranch. And so we, you know, throughout the show's existence, we talked about Skin Walker Ranch. And, you know, I spent time out there, not on the ranch, so don't sue me, whoever owns it today. But like, next door. I was the boy next door. And so I was doing my thing. And it's, there's a lot of mysterious things that have. not just on Skinwalker Ranch, but the area, right? And in this drop, it includes a 2008 expense report showing nearly 22 million spent on government's UAP investigation program. That 22 million, when I saw that, that stuck out like a sore thumb to me because I know

they invested $22 million into specifically researching Skinwalker Ranch with Bigelow. And then certainly when you go to the drop and you pull up the file, I know I sent that to Jack. If he could pull it up at any moment. Oh, he already did. Cool. Like you see Bigelow on there. You see the nearly $22 million. So this is them talking about their research at specific location of Skinwalker Ranch, which Rupil had talked about being a concentration.

Well, I don't think he named Skinwalker Ranch, but hot spots. You have to include Skinwalker Ranch. You have to. And you can't tell me they were unaware of Skinwalker Ranch being a hot spot in 52. The mere fact that we have the UFO cluster over Utah, that information gets in their hands. We know they were aware of things happening in Utah and Skinwalker Ranch being king number one throughout all of this stuff. What were they researching at Skinwalker Ranch? This should really put things into perspective.

with my entire platform. We're talking today about the government, conspiracies, disclosure, releasing information. I have talked about many different topics over the years. And at Skinwalker Ranch, in 2022, the government funded a study linked to Harry Reid, Bigelow, and Skinwalker Ranch. They investigated anomalous phenomena,

including UFOs and UAPs, orbs, crop circles, poltergeist activity, and Bigfoot-like creatures. Our government researched and investigated Bigfoot.

This is not old news. It was covered underneath that $22 million expense report. And it's showing a paper trail of our government giving serious consideration to things that people still today say,

do you really think that's real? Do you really believe in that? What do you think really about Bigfoot? Are people just crazy? The government themselves saw it was enough to research at Skinwalker Ranch. And you might say, where's the data? We've been saying that this entire show.

Where's the data? They're releasing recycled documents, recycled information, old stuff that has been out for a long time. They released this. if it was new, 2008, $22 million, that's old news. Like I knew that from Clyde Lewis days. Like, Clyde Lewis is the one that I learned that from. When I was driving truck, Clyde was talking about it.

So this is old news. They're recycling data. So where's the real data? If you look to find what they researched and the data they uncovered, I don't think you'll find any data pertaining to that four-year period from 2008 to 2012 of what they actually learned and discovered, like clear data. I don't think you're going to find that because that's data that our government purchased with $22 million. They own it and they're not going to release it until they're ready to release it because they're done with it.

And a lot of the information that we have and that we've been given over these drops is just data that they're okay with releasing because it's irrelevant. It's mistaken identity. It's been explained already. they're giving no context, just recycle data and information, and the real data, the real information that we all seek is not being released.

And I don't think it ever will be released. You both are looking through files. Tell me I'm wrong. No, I'm really. I'm completely... I'm saying something like you guys are about to blow it out of water. You triggered my thought. Yeah.

So this is where the whole trail goes really interesting is because we realized some of these documents were actually already foiled by the DIA. dot mill, military at m.il.

And so then I start looking through this and I actually found in this already foyed not pursue documentation, advanced aerospace

weapon system application program. And in the third page, it actually talks about the contractors. So this is private, right?

We're talking about private working with the government. This is private contractors. And it actually goes to your point. The government

will provide the contractor access to computers and peripherals, such as printers as the government deems necessary to access and produce classified information. So basically what they're saying is like whatever the government is going to furnish the equipment for whatever the government allows these private sectors to do. So just like you're saying with Bigelow, Bigelow was allowed access to that and to research it and to put his people into it to do the investigation.

But most likely all the equipment was from the government. and then owned by the government and then absorbed into the government. And so they use that private label. This is what like Burleson and Burchett talk about all the time is that the information's hidden through private sector. They don't have access to demand it. Same thing to the Smithsonian.

Smithsonian, right. And so this is the same thing. But then government's actually the one pulling the strings on the other end. And so it's like a loophole they found where they can say, oh, we're going to contract you do this work. We own all the information, but you're going to keep it behind your security wall. Yeah. And so then because otherwise you're not going to get the next contract and you're not going to get the next $22 million and the next thing for free, the next handout.

So it's a great way to control all the information, a great way to basically like have what they want to be released as they want to be, have it released. So full control. If they want to release it. If they want to release it. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's just there is no such thing as freedom of information. Mm-hmm. You know, that's an illusion.

Man, my voice, what's going on with me today, boys? You're ready for UT versus UT. I'm ready. I'm ready. Me and Trump in the booth. It's going to be perfect, big. We should probably look to the skies, though, on Saturday, right? I mean, you got Trump in the area at the game. Who's to say that there won't be a display of something locally here?

Maybe we bring the infrared out. Maybe bring the infrared. Do we have infrared? I thought we had some. Do I have an infrared? What do you got? I have a Fleer. No. Maybe I do. I forget. What to go look through the storage. You might have the binoculars. Maybe. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. We'll stake it out. Let me go out on the highway. Looking for that. Pyramid UFLO to show up over the football stadium. Yeah, buddy. But we'll collect our own data. But no, I mean, it's just this data side. of things. It's not free. The government paid for it. Therefore, the government owns it. And they'll store it where they want it. They'll have it whenever they want it. And they'll release it

whenever they desire to, which will probably be any real data will be never. It will be never released. And if it will be released, maybe it would be released in a way that we wouldn't even know they're releasing the information like iPhones, smartphones. The technology that we have in our pockets now and stuff,

we don't attribute to any kind of government data from back in the day, but most likely they had access to that kind of technology well before we knew it even existed and then they ship it out to us by making us pay for it and there's no freedom of information then.

So it actually kind of makes me wonder right now like when did Skinwalker Ranch the show start? Oh bro, I don't know. Probably 2016, 2017, something of that. Okay, so the contract ended in 2012, right? Ruth Bigelow, yeah. Yeah, okay. The funding did, yeah.

So it kind of makes you wonder, like was that a funding for them to set up equipment and get their preliminary research done in order to know how to propagandize a television show? To make the people believe in things that may not actually be happening or to represent it in a way in which they would believe, you know, anything or whatever. Yeah. Like, what's the real intention behind that in my, that's where my brain went? Yeah. No, that's actually, that's a great a great point. And you can't argue that that could be a possibility given just the understanding of our government's propensity and extreme desires to propagate the American public to think a certain way. And sometimes that thinking a certain way is that give you only two or three options to think you choose.

But it's so extreme that they have an extreme society that is unrest and allows for them to operate the way they want to operate because they have just a whole country full of extreme people. Nobody's balanced. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I mean, it makes you wonder, too, is like, like, just like Jacob's ladder, like, the aspect of his dream where he saw angels ascending and descending. Are there the points on the earth that are natural stargates for these things to appear more easily without technology?

So, like, there's certain, like, granite, there's certain electromagnetic aspects of the earth that are in specific locations that are triggering anomalous events to occur. Yeah. Or, like, is it? Oh, sorry, go ahead. I was just going to ask if, I mean, the biblical city. of the location Bethel, is that still named that location today?

Or do we know where this location was? So he's, he named a Bethel. I just don't know if that location is still named Bethel today or if it's underneath a different name. I know, I think Mariah turns into Jerusalem, which is where the Holy Temple ends up being. So I'm a little fuzzy on all of it. But there is an association with all that.

You have like we were talking about earlier, you know, Persia is Iran, you know, but then you have other places like Syria, you know, or, um, um, blanking on the country's name that's still around today. Anyways, uh, Turkey? Maybe I don't know. But maybe what I'm curious about is if we could pinpoint the location, you know, general location, we can then look at historically of what we know, is there, is it has, does it have a propensity? to be a concentration spot. Well, how about this for concentration? In Revelation, it talks about New Jerusalem, literally falling on old Jerusalem.

So whatever, like, people have, like, ancient astronaut theories say that there's a giant mothership basically coming, and it literally lands in the Earth Jerusalem. Yeah. Which is right where Mount Moriah, where the dream, like, all these things were occurring at the same time. Wow.

So that could very much be a Stargate aspect. Yeah. It's called Byton. Bighton. Yeah, modern village of Bighton. Modern village of Bighton. It's on the West Bank. Let me see here.

Can you pull it up on the screen, actually? Just share it. Yeah, I'm trying to find it real quick on a map. Oh, okay, got you. So in modern day, it's called Bighton. It used to be called Bethel. Bighton to Bighton. Bethel Bighton.

Just waiting on the map. Very good, you know. I'm running out of words. Wow. I've been doing it for over an hour and a half. I'm running all in work today. So impressive. We are just patiently waiting.

I'm just trying to find a map that actually has it on it. I can't find a map that has it labeled. You can keep searching. We'll keep moving. Bring it up whenever you find it. And just let me know so that I can look at it. I just want to look at it. Would you look at it?

Just look at it. Let's get into this last topic of conversation, though. The wormhole program. Find it interesting very much. And if you could just maybe start us off with what you kind of, the read that you took on it and what we're talking about here. Yeah. Like when we think about wormholes, we think about like what's behind us and stuff.

But it turns out that it might be something that or and or something else. Right. So this document, I see, it's called cockpits in the era of Breakthrough Flight. Like it starts breaking down the aspect of the science behind creating wormholes. Right. And so what, and there's another one too, the one that's been going around with like the dinosaurs and, you know, the guy's putting his hand through and waving at the dinosaur or whatever it's. But like, so this whole, all this, these file releases are basically giving us the science, scientific angle to what they're trying to say is happening. And so what they're saying is that not only is there what we've always deemed as like positive gravity, right, which could go to zero, but then there's also negative gravity, negative energy that they can use through really.

high and low frequency waves. And so they're basically figuring out that they can actually punch an invert time space through negative energy and negative gravity and essentially create wormholes. So there's a plane of existence and you have the positive energy and negative energy and being able to control that creates the wormhole? Yeah. Yeah. So at certain frequencies they're able to like basically punch through and then create a wormhole,

which the birchette was just saying, right? It's like he was talking about wormholes in that clip even at the beginning of the show. Like the same thing. Like they know for sure that they can punch wormholes. And so this is the technology to which they are creating, that they're admitting that they can create. Yeah.

And so this is the cockpit that they are showing. Pause for a second. What you just said, what you're showing, what Jack's showing on the screen right now. And you just said, cockpit, we're talking about them reverse engineer wormholes to be utilized on a micro level. Is that what you're talking about?

This is something that... Yeah, so the technology is not only to just create a wormhole, but to actually have people and things traverse through the wormhole. And so what this is is a depiction of how they understand it to create a device that could go through the wormhole and go through time space and then punch through other areas. And so in this... That looks like an orb, by the way, just so everybody understands.

It looks like an orb. Yeah, so... Looks like a UFO ball orb. So the middle portion is where they say that's the cockpit of where the personnel would be located. The inner or the inner circle would be the actual, the rest of the structure of the ship. And then the outer, the outer layer is actually where the electron and the electromagnetic fields are basically shifting and creating the portal-like aspect of the ship itself. So, like, the outer layer is almost becoming the wormhole itself.

Right. So the ship is actually, is not flying. It's actually warping time space as a wormhole. So that's why I think they appear as orbs, like to what we can see only, is because it's actually a breach of time space that we're looking at when we see some of these orbs. And they could be ships and they could just be spirits. We have no real way to know.

But so what they're saying is. is that these ships actually travel. I'm going to do the paper punch because it makes the most sense. They travel into this in between. Stranger things. Stranger things, literally. So the ship is actually traveling

as it bends time space. It's traveling in this little space in between as it warps time and space around it. I'm this way. Sorry. So what they're saying is that these, devices, these ships that they're advanced aeronautics, they're actually punching time space. And that's where these ships can move in any direction, at any speed.

And then the people inside don't even feel any of the motion of it because they're not technically traveling as far as like wind resistance. They're actually moving through time space in a wormhole itself. So these devices are creating wormholes. Jack? Yeah, so wormholes. No, I think what's honestly interesting to me about all of this is the fact that it's kind of like when you see the MH370 video, you know, those are orbs that they're discussing it being anti-gravatational technology, which we've also talked about with Amy Eskridge and all of this stuff.

So like, you know, anti-gravatational technology has been around and been discussed for a long time. this is like maybe another layer to it, you know, a little bit more advanced in a sense because you're talking about being able to travel into in that orb. It's not just an orb that is, you know, itself bending space, you know, around it. But this is spending space and time, right? That's the whole point of a wormhole is like you can, it's not necessarily time, but that you can travel extraordinarily, extraordinarily long distances by bending the plane of existence. That's what Derek was showing with that representation. The papers, the plane. of where, like, where we live, and you're basically bringing together two ends of that plane

in order to move. And so if they're basically saying that they can, you know, reconstruct something like that, are they saying that they can travel, you know, across the universe or across the galaxy, you know, not only that, but like, interdimensionally? Like, is there, is there a rift in which that they're able to then travel through? and is that an object that is being used not for humans to travel, but for entities. Yeah, it's like, hmm,

what you're just saying there, Jack, just makes me feel like there's multiple ways to travel interdimensionally. You know, like, you think about the practices that people do through the occult to travel interdimensionally. You think about the tech side of this,

all this different stuff, that there's different ways of going about. It's like, what do you want? A motorcycle? an SUV, a car, a truck, a rocket ship. We got different ways of transporting you. How would you like it done? Well, doesn't it kind of like make you wonder why the government then was so interested

and research so heavily into astral projection? Were they studying the methods of traveling and ability to travel in the astral in order to then manifest it physically in technology that they're creating? You know, is there some reverse technology in that way? It's a merger. Right. Yeah, it's a merger of, you know, spiritual and, you know, physical. You know, and that's what they're trying to do. I mean, we know that there's dark arts and there's, there's dark practices under NASA and all this stuff, right? We've heard all of these things, the rituals and everything. So what are the, what are the odds that something like this is maybe having that type of manipulation with it, you know? Oh, absolutely. I love all this. No, I mean, I agree. So I, I've just got to be honest. I am burning up here. We, like, it is so hot here. He's got to close it up. I am burning up. I'm about to start sweating profusely right now. So it's very distracting right now for me.

I thought your head was overheating from thinking. Oh my gosh. No, definitely not. Never happened before. So go ahead. We're the last thing. But like, so the great question, though, because what is it? Is it actually wormholing through the universe?

Yeah. Or is it interdimensional? It can't really be both, can it? Or could the universe be an extension of another dimension? Well, because then that messes up our whole learning of what we are in the universe. So, like, right? I mean, it gets into. really weird spheres of like what is the universe if they're actually only interdimensional

traveling, but yet they're telling us it's intergalactic. Did we just land on spaces fake today? I don't know. I'm just these are the questions we need to ask, though. I think that's the direction Jack was trying to steer earlier when he said about the firmament. But here's a great question too, is like if these ships are designed by these other entities, these 1% or these really like this high technology, are they coming from a dimension or a space, right?

So like if they're dimensionally pushing through with the ship, right, is that because they're not allowed to be in our dimension? They're not allowed to be in the physical realm. They have to stay on the other side. And that's the only way they can punch through is by punching through the dimension. And this is why they have access through astral projection, through occult practices,

through ritual sacrifice, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you are spiritually connecting to these entities through the ether to the other side, right, with these occult practices. And now they have the technology to then travel into that space. Man, this is good stuff. I mean, who would have thought that a UFO drop actually would have got us talking this complexly? You know, because, like, most of the time they've been talking about them looking like pig heads, you know? And so, yeah, that's true. It was a drop that I feel like had some teeth to it.

If you had maybe certain perspectives going into it to allow you to see it a certain way, you know? I don't expect everybody to agree with us, and let alone see it the way we see it on some of this stuff. But I don't know. I think this was one of more fun ones for sure. And so thank you, government, for releasing some information. It was very fun. And Jack's laughing. What's up, man?

I'm just laughing at you because I'm sure you would have kept going if you weren't so hot. Bro, I am. It's hot in here. I am dying. And we also have another recording to do. And so, yeah, I love you guys. And I'm glad that we are able to sit and talk about this with you guys. Derek, Jack, before we get out here, you got any parting words? I just want to say, it's been great. Oh, okay. Yes. It's been real. It's been fun. But it hasn't been real fun. It hasn't been real fun. It's been hot the last like 30 minutes. I'm dying.

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