The Confessionals - UFOs, Tulsi Gabbard, and the Shroud of Turin: Ancient Proof vs Modern Lies

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

In this live show, Tony dives into the Shroud of Turin’s renewed spotlight in the media, breaking down why this ancient relic—with its rare blood evidence, radiation imprint theory, and matching burial cloth—might be the strongest physical proof of the resurrection. He then turns to Tulsi Gabbard’s cryptic comments about aliens and the government’s slow, strategic rollout of UFO disclosure, and also comments on his own interview with a congressman who opens up about fallen angel technology (soon to be released). Tony also investigates the “phantom buzz” conspiracy, questioning whether tech companies are silently manipulating users by triggering false vibrations to feed digital addiction. Please pray for Tony's wife, Lindsay, as she battles breast cancer. Your prayers make a difference!If you’re able, consider helping the Merkel family with medical expenses by donating to Lindsay’s GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/b8f76890Tony's Recommended Reads: slingshotlibrary.comBecome a member for ad-free listening, extra shows, and exclusive access to our social media app: theconfessionalspodcast.com/joinThe Confessionals Social Network App:Apple Store: https://apple.co/3UxhPrhGoogle Play: https://bit.ly/43mk8kZMy New YouTube ChannelMerkel IRL: @merkelIRLMy First Sermon: Unseen BattlesOriginal Documentaries: merkelfilms.comMerkel Media Apparel: merkmerch.comSPONSORSSIMPLISAFE TODAY: simplisafe.com/confessionalsGHOSTBED: GhostBed.com/tonyCONNECT WITH USWebsite: www.theconfessionalspodcast.comEmail: [e-mail] ADDRESS:Merkel Media257 N. Calderwood St., #301Alcoa, TN 37701SOCIAL MEDIASubscribe to our YouTube: https://bit.ly/2TlREaIReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theconfessionals/Discord: https://discord.gg/KDn4D2uw7hShow Instagram: theconfessionalspodcastTony's Instagram: tonymerkelofficialFacebook: www.facebook.com/TheConfessionalsPodcasTwitter: @TConfessionalsTony's Twitter: @tony_merkel

Welcome to the show. Thanks for being here, friends. I wish, I wish I was a tech genius, but I am not a tech genius. And I'm trying to figure things out as far as tech goes on this show. And I feel like jumping off the proverbial cliff sometimes with the tech on this show. last week we went live and I was to my stunning surprise as I went live I was lagging and I didn't understand why I was like this doesn't make any sense you know I I had this like I think they call it codex codex I don't know what they call it but it was old internet I suppose you know

It was, from what I understand from the AT&T guy, I was sharing internet with everybody else in the building. It wasn't just coming to me and it was like this old stuff. And I was paying for a business internet, right? And so we upgraded to fiber optic. And to my surprise with that, I was actually saving money going to fiber optic. It was amazing. Spectrum, get your act together. They were charging me 200.

$20 a month for slow crap internet in my business building. Because friends, if you don't know, if you're in a business building, some kind of complex, it is considered a business. So they just charge you more for the same kind of internet you get at home. And I was paying that for three years, a little more than three years since I've been here. And once I went over to fiber optic, they dropped me down to AT&T. they dropped me down to 160 a month. And I was like, man, I'm going to have super fast internet.

And it's going to be awesome because I'm going to be saving money. And then they hooked me up with bundling my phones in there. And it was just, it was great. And I was so happy until I go live and it's lagging. And I'm like, well, certainly then my lagging issues was not the internet. And so this morning I came in and I'm messing around. I'm futzing around with. the camera that you are watching me on.

And I dropped, I thought, okay, so I had it on 4K. And I was like, let me drop it down to 1080P because we're not going to be streaming in 4K. When you go on, when you go live from what I understand, you're not streaming in 4K. So I drop it down to 1080P and drop the frame rates down and all that stuff. And here we are live and here we are again, lagging it up. So maybe next week, third time's the charm. know, but I don't know where to turn. So if any of you guys are geniuses when it comes to tech and you know exactly what my issue is, please, please, please reach out and let me know because

I'm getting desperado over here. So, excuse me, I have a bone to pick with everybody. No, I'm just kidding. I have no bones to pick with everybody. Let me tell you something, though. Have you guys had this phantom buzzing happening in your in your pants. I might sound weird at first, but let me just give it more context. When you think that you have your phone in your pants, in your pants pocket, and you feel a buzz, and you reach in your pocket, you pull out your phone and nothing. You don't have a notification, no text message from anybody, but you swear you felt it buzz. This is something that I thought was going to be a me problem. I thought I was going crazy. I thought that, you know, ever since I quit the truck driving job where I had a phone

on a dashboard all day, where I could flip through my favorite podcasts and things like that to having a phone in my pocket a lot, I thought maybe I was just going nuts. Maybe I was just, you know, I was losing it. And I was scared to say something because, you know, you guys were going to pile on and tell me how looney Tunes I was. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately. Fortunately, I am not losing my mind. This is something that happens to a lot of people. So if you are somebody who have felt the phantom buzz in your pocket, you're not alone.

You're not crazy. Welcome to the club. We're all going to come out of our phantom buzzing closets today. And I can't tell you how many times it happens to me. And it happens in spurts where I will be, I'll be good for. for a week, two, three weeks, maybe a month. I don't feel phantom buzz. And then all of a sudden, I feel the phantom buzz going crazy during one week.

I'll have like two, three, four times in a week. And I never really understood what it was. I thought maybe I was stressed out. And, you know, that's why I'm getting this phantom buzz. My brain is telling me I need a break from reality or whatever. But I think I want to do an exercise here, because there's a conspiracy theory arising with the phantom buzzing. And I want to do an experiment here because I wonder if I go a month without a phantom buzz,

is it because there's no phantom buzz happening in my pocket, or is it because I'm keeping my phone out of my pocket on the desk more often? I don't know. But I'm going to, I guess, maybe try to keep my phone in my pocket, to give me some good cancer later on in life, just for the experiment, I'm going to do that. And I'm going to keep my phone in my pocket for, let's say, for the majority of the day for a week or two.

And I'm going to see if I get the phantom buzzing because the phantom buzzing conspiracy, I'd say, is so I guess we can put to rest. Tony's not crazy because of people have the same experience of phantom buzzing. And the conspiracy around it, though, is that, you know what, drop in the chat and let me know if you've had the phantom buzzing and if the phantom buzzing has happened to you on what kind of phone, on what kind of phone are you having the phantom buzzing happening? Because I have iPhone. I have had an iPhone for a very

long time. And I wouldn't even dream of switching from iPhone because I have all our computers in the office and all my computers at home are Apple and it's just too easy to have everything synchronized. However, all right, so we have one person here saying it's not phantom buzzing on Samsung. That is what my thoughts are going here because I'm wondering if this conspiracy theory about the phantom buzzing is not actual phantom buzzing but real buzzing brought on by the phone itself. is it possible that Apple, because it's happening for me, so I have Apple iPhones, is it possible that they are aware that you have not picked up your phone in quite some time? And they're trying to get you to pick up your phone and start using it.

And they give it a little in your pocket to remind you that you haven't touched your phone in a while. wouldn't that be some like really like devious acts right there that'd be that'd be terrible uh we already are dealing with probably a society of people who are becoming uh much far too more like me with ADHD than than we probably should have uh because um it's not good and then you're creating this codependency we already had that codependency with the technology in our pockets and You know, how many people can't leave a room without carrying their phone with them? Like, if you go from, you know, I don't know, let's just say you're in your living room and you get, you go, you go downstairs to where, you know, I don't know, they give a finished basement. You have a pool table down there and, you know, entertainment, you know, a nice TV down there with a sound system.

and you go down there to spend some time to relax. And you're up in the living room. You're like, I'm going to go downstairs and relax. And you walk halfway down to stairs. And you're like, oh, shoot, I don't have my phone. And then you have to go back upstairs, find your phone. Anybody know where my phone's at? You ditch your Apple Eye Watch out.

And you start buzzing your phone to find your phone so that you can take your phone downstairs just because it's part of you. now. It's part of you. So if that is a real, and I know that's reality because I get like that myself. And I try to consciously leave my phone somewhere at times when I remember to just so that I can detox. And these detoxes are becoming a very popular thing. I saw there's some kind of youth camp where for two weeks they do like a youth camp, like a teenager camp. But like the like, like, Back in the day, you did camps and you went to camp because it was camp. It was fun.

You learned how to hike, fish, and all that stuff. These camps is like that, but the whole motivation behind it is you leave your phones at home or you lock your phones up. And for two weeks, your brain is detoxing. And that's kids. We're detoxing our children's brains from phones and technology as children. We already know that the dopamine hits are real with social media. and technology, and we're giving that to our kids.

It's like we're getting our kids hooked on a technological drug, and we're okay with it. And so we're like, oh, we'll just send them to a two-week camp where they detox. So anyways, so every once in a while we need a detox from the tech, I suppose. And, you know, from my lips to God's ears, right? Because I need a detox myself. But I wonder if having this text, so accessible to us and in our pockets all the time is creating this technological phantom buzzing.

Is it possible that it's just a psychological phenomenon? Or is it more sinister than that? Is it that Apple, maybe even Samsung, maybe people are having the phantom buzzing with Samsung? Maybe these companies, if they sense that you haven't touched your phone in a while, they just give it a buzz. And, you know, maybe they say, oh, well, we just do that because we just want to make sure that you know where your phone's at at all times, just in case of an emergency. Hmm. I don't know. I'll tell you, the social media side of things that just found out yesterday, I got a text from a fella. He's a social media creator here in Tennessee.

We connected a while back, and we never really connected on the show or anything. But he hit me up yesterday. and we don't talk a whole lot because when he texts me, I was like, who is that? But his name was in my phone, so I knew I knew who it was. But he said, check your DMs. And I went to Instagram and checked my DMs. And he's informing me that Instagram was publicly showing my exact location to everybody who followed me. And I was like, what in the world?

and and so he sent me a video to show me how to turn all that off and I did but you know these these tech companies

Apple probably Samsung Instagram TikTok Facebook probably even X because I know X is like the holy social media these days you know for some people

these companies are continually invading our privacy. And Facebook, they say, even knows when you go to the bathroom just by studying your repetition. And so they do things like that. And so if they're tracking you, if we know that they're tracking you,

if we know that you get these screen time reports from, at least I see it on my phone, you get these screen time reports where it tracks how long you've spent on social media that week and that day, and what you did with your phone, if they're tracking all that, certainly they could track it to a point

where you get a buzz in your pocket if you haven't touched it in a while. And how do you prove something like that? Like if you, if they are really actually doing that, how do you prove that they're doing it? Because you feel a phantom buzz in your pocket. You feel that buzz, but it's not like continual.

It's not like you can pull it out and it's still buzzing. And if you don't have it in your pocket, you're not going to feel the phantom buzz. Maybe, maybe. You leave your phone on the table and you see, I don't know. I don't know.

But we got to figure that we got to get to the bottom of this mystery, friends. We got to get to the bottom of this mystery because the phantom buzzing is real. I thought I was going crazy, but it is real. And I don't, think I like it very much.

I think I was actually more comfortable with the idea that I was just going crazy than it actually being a phenomenon because now we got to deal with it on a mass level. Are these tech companies getting to us or is our psyche just so connected to the phone that we can't live without it? you know, the other day I was I was driving home with my family and we were we were talking about some things that got me thinking dreaming, dreaming about better days. Better days of having a farm, you know, I would like to have like a 50 to 100 acre farm and have some farm dogs, lots of goats and pigs and pigs and cows. And it got me thinking about my friend, William Bond, who has been on the show several times. He's down in Texas.

And he's a homesteader. And I got to have to thinking, like, how would William help me with a 50 to 100-acre farm? What kind of homesteading could we do on such a piece of property? And I started thinking, I haven't talked to William in quite some time. I missed that guy. It's been a little bit. And I get home that evening and I have a text message and it wasn't even a phantom buzz. I got a text message from William and he's just said, hey, buddy, no reason, no need to answer this.

I just wanted to let you know, I woke up this morning and you were on my mind and I just want to let you know I'm praying for you and your wife. And I was like, no way. And I answered him, I was like, dude, I was literally just thinking about you along the same lines. And I was like, what is that? You know, like, what is that? that telekinesis psychological connection

you have with friends at times. And it gets weirder because I open up my Instagram and I see, I don't know if you guys, everybody's algorithm is a little different, but my Instagram algorithm

shows me a lot of like info images where it's like an image and then underneath it'll show a quick hitter statement that's like an informational thing and then you read the description for all the details. And I do that. And there was there there's this uh this thing that popped up in my Instagram same day that talked about how friends or maybe it was the next day. I think it was the next day talking about how close friends have a psychic like a psychological telekinesis connection where sometimes they can

finish each other sentences knowing each other thinking about each other and things like that. And I was like, holy crap. So now I'm like I have this weird thing that happened with me and William and now I have this other weird thing with Instagram knowing what I'm talking about, texting my friend about and thinking about to feed me that information. I was like weirded out, right? But it gets better. Because though I have this real life case where I hadn't talked to my friend a while, thought I hadn't talked to my friend a while, then he texts me the same day saying we haven't talked in a while and I'm just want to let you know I'm praying for you to having the Instagram feed me a reason why that could happen. And then I shared that with my wife. And she's like,

no way. I literally just woke up the same day. I forget the timeline of this, but it's the same day that all this happened, me, William, and then her, she said she woke up in the morning thinking, we haven't heard from William in a while. I wonder how he's doing. What is that? What is that? I mean, I've heard of things called coincidences, but that doesn't seem like a coincidence. That seems like we into Matrix, son. That sounds like we in the Matrix. And what we're living right now is just a simulation. Somewhere in some kind of spaceship floating around in a dystopian ruined world

is Tony with a big old needle stuck in the back of my head. And I'm just laying there, a complete dull existence, I'm living out my dreams right here in this fake reality. Hmm. I don't know. I don't know. But I'm enjoying the fake reality. Let's put it that way.

I'm enjoying the fake reality. So, you know, you guys enjoying this fake reality? Give me a thumbs up if you're enjoying this fake reality here. To an extent, to an extent I can see the arguments for, the simulation theory. Because I think that to an extent you can go there, but

for me at least, for me, I would say that I, there is an architect, right? And that would be God. And, but I don't think that the architect, God is preordaining

every push of the button on my mouse as it goes. But Speaking of, let's bring this first thing up here. Let me add this to the stage. Can you guys see that? Let me bring this over here for a second so I can see what I'm doing. There we go.

And let's change some media assets over here. There we be. All right. Let me bring this back over here. All right. Now that the logistics are out of the way, because I self-produce these live shows, we have the shrouded turn in the news recently. And you know, you want to talk about the idea of a matrix

and things just lining up perfectly, too perfectly. I'm living that, friends. I'm living that every day of my life, it seems like. It just, you know, I do a lot of episodic recordings well in advance. If you follow me on Instagram at Tony Merkel official, you'll see that I post pictures of people that I've had in the studio. And if you just map the timeline, by a time that person usually gets their episode aired on the show,

sometimes it's weeks or longer. I'm constantly working behind the scenes, recording things. We've even discussed recently the idea of coming out with an episode, more than one episode a week, more than two episodes a week. We come out with one episode for the members, one from the public, and we thought about coming out with more, dumping more, because we're so backlogged, but my fear is creating an expectation that I can't keep up with, to be honest with you. So maybe one day, but right now, probably not. But so you look at that timeline, though, and if you go to my Instagram at Tony Merkel official,

you'll see that I did a recording a few weeks ago. Actually, let me see if I can bring that thing up here real quick. Instagram. You should see that. Yeah, you guys can see that. So just a couple of weeks ago, right here, let's bring this up. We posted some of these images on the Instagram

where I sat down with Doug Powell, and we discussed the shrouded turn. I reached out to Doug and asked him to come to the studio, and he said, I'd love to come to the studio. However, if you come to me, we can do this interview in front of a life-size replica of the shrouded turn. And I said, sir, I am in. I am in.

Don't ask me again, and don't tease me with a good time. And so I went out there and I did this recording with him, and I believe it's about a two-and-a-half-hour recording that I did with him. and we discussed everything you possibly can about the facts of what we know about the Shroudo Turn. And he is an apologist. He is a very intellectually driven person. I was surprised he was willing to talk to me, quite honestly, because, you know,

if you guys have been around for a while, I like to brainstorm publicly and think out loud and say things that most people are too nervous to talk about, right? And he and I had a great conversation. There's the whole room that we were set up in. And I had this on the schedule to go out probably in September is what I was thinking. I was thinking probably September. We were going to drop this episode. And I text the boys and I said, fellas, we got to bump the shroud up because it's

it's busting up in the news. And the first thing I saw was Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan had Chad Wright on. And man, if you have not seen that episode, if you're not a Joe Rogan fan, I would highly suggest you watch that episode. Because Chad Wright spends well over an hour, just kind of unpacking the gospel and scripture to Joe in a way that I'm not sure anybody ever has,

I mean, we have seen, we've seen Wes Huff on the platform, but he did it in an informational way. Like, here's the facts. Chad Wright did it in a very human way, you know, a very intimate, personal way. And I believe it got Joe thinking. But one of the things that Joe brought up was, he said, have you ever seen about the shroud of Turin? And Chad didn't really know much about the Shrout of Turin. and they discussed it for a little bit and I text the guys after that

and I said we should we should bump the shroud up because they just talked about it on Rogan and it would be good for the Algo to be hitting at the same time and man it's like sometimes you stumble into gold and so like I said

I don't believe the Matrix is like 100% or anything like that but there is a divine order to things and there's plenty of times when I am doing all these interviews that I have it scheduled far out. And then by the time an episode airs, it's the perfect timing. One case that happened was when I did an episode with Pastor Larry Ragland on CERN. I had that thing scheduled for about two months.

And the day, the day that it aired, was so happened to be the same day that we had the solar eclipse. And everybody was saying how CERN was firing up that same day, causing the solar eclipse. eclipse. And I came out with a CERN episode. And I was like, holy moly. I think the first day had like 50,000 views on YouTube. I was like, man, praise God. You know, I'll take it when I can get it. But this is one of those cases where timing-wise, I had scheduled with Doug to do the Shrouta-Turran recording back in April. So we had months before that scheduled for me to go out there and record with him. And I think it was the beginning of April or even May. No, it was April. I think it was either late March or early April we were scheduled to record. However, I had to cancel. It was right around

the time that my wife got diagnosed with cancer. And I had to cancel with him because I was dealing with a lot of stuff with doctors and things like that. And so we pushed it to all the way to August. And we do this recording, or not August, July, last two weeks ago. And we do this recording. and then here we are a few weeks later and Shrout is popping off in the news again and I was like, perfect timing, perfect timing. I mean, if I would have done the recording a few months prior, this episode probably would have aired already

and might have missed the wave that we're on right now because right now there's a lot of people making videos on YouTube about the Shrouda Turin and the latest debunking effort of it. And I was just like, well, we're going to put this thing out. So Doug Powell is, in my mind, one of the world's leading informational brains on the topic of the shroud of Turin. He has several replicas of things associated to the shroud. And he has well documented his studies and findings.

He's well connected to the people all around the world that do biblical archaeology, specifically on the shroud. And he just spent, like I said, two, two and a half hours just really dumping information on what the shroud is, what it isn't, and reasons why it's believed to be the burial cloth of Christ. And he lays out very convincing, detailed arguments as to what is, not even just the shroud itself, but tracking where the shroud has come from by the pollen that is on the shroud. You're able to actually map the logistical path that the shroud has taken over the years because of the pollen that's associated with. You can get a general sense. And the shroud is

not the only thing that people have. But before we jump into that, I will say this. This, I can't remember this guy's name. What is the guy's name? Circeiro Morais. We'll just call Morayas. He has a 3D imaging program that he ran an experiment with. And this image here on the left is what he is claiming is the debunking image of the shroud of Turin. And this image on the right is what he says everybody is excited about with the Stroud Terran, but why it's not factual. And there are, this is not a video where I'm going to be spending a ton of time debunking his debunking because one, I'm just not good at that kind of stuff. I'm not good at debating and things like that. I just, I am who I am.

But there are plenty of videos online going through the information as to what he's missing on these arguments. But essentially what he's saying is on this 3D imaging on the left hand side where you see this wide, spread image. He said that this is what the shroud of Turin would actually look like if it was draped over a human body. And these green markings, from what I understand, is the idea of the contact points of what the shroud would be connecting to. And on the right side here is much more of an image of what we see with the Shrout Turin. He's saying this is not actually factual because this was a 3D image of just a very short 3D model of a human body, but it was like not the whole body. It was just like the top layer of the body that the cloth is laid on top, creating that

contact point, giving you more of an image of what we have on the shroud. So he's saying, because the left side is showing something completely different and it was draped over a 3D dimensional body, I think it was like 511, is proof. that the shroud is a fake. There's tons of evidences that go very much against what he's saying. For one, when you see the head there and this kind of looks like the predator, doesn't it? Kind of looks like the predator. I just thought that now.

So, I mean, this image here isn't even 100% accurate, accurate. because it wasn't just the burial cloth, the shroud, that was laying over the body of Christ. There was actually a head covering as well. And actually you see it in, I can't remember, it's probably in multiple gospels, but I can't remember which ones they are, but it talks about the cloth that was folded up where Christ was laying.

We actually have that. We actually have that cloth, which is another proof and evidence of the shrouded turn because, and we go into it on our episode with Doug, which airs next Tuesday, this coming Tuesday, which would be what, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12th, the 12th, August 12th, we get into it with Doug. But he has a replica of both.

And there are blood markings that completely match both cloths. And so we know that they're associated just by the matching of the blood markings, but also the fact that they have the same pollen, but they traveled very different routes over time. Like these relics were taken by different groups and traveled all over the world, and you're able to track that by the pollen that's on the shroud and how that pollen is only certain areas of the world. And so it's very interesting. But we have the cloth that matches the blood splatters and things like that. But the interesting thing is with the shroud that wasn't really covered by this 3D theory that this Morayas guy has, is that the shroud is supernaturally a photographic negative that was created. thousands of years ago before we even had cameras.

The shroud, when you look at the, in fact, the shroud behind me, I have it on the wall right here. By the way, I'm fascinated by the shroud of turn. I'm fascinated by biblical archaeology. And I'm going to be having more biblical archaeology, biblical, biblical, biblical, biblical, archaeological archaeological archaeological artifacts on the wall behind me. me moving forward soon. I'm ordering some things. I got to change out some of the image. I just tired of it. I want to put some more interesting stuff up there. Anyways, the shroud

is right here behind me on the wall. I put it there. And what you see there is kind of like it's like the photo, that photo itself is almost like the photographic negative. So we have that image. And we know that's like the photographic. picture of the shroud. And this is just a piece of the shroud. The shroud is actually like 15 feet long. But it's weird because it's almost like, even though we know that's the picture of the shroud,

it's like that's the photographic negative of the shroud though. Because when you take the negative of the shroud, I'm going to do a horrible job of describing this, when you take the negative of the shroud, it shows more detail than what you see in the picture. picture. Are you tracking? I'm having a hard time explain this. But what you see here in this image that is on the screen is actually the negative of the picture that we have here. But this negative actually shows more detail as if it was the actual photograph of the shroud. And the photograph

is the negative. In this image, you see these lashings, these lash marks that are very much in line with what Christ went through. We go into all the details next Tuesday. when we have Doug Powell on the show. But nobody can really explain how that happened. And there's one theory or hypothesis, because I said theory when I record with Doug, and he's like, actually, it's a hypothesis, which is not even a theory yet.

So I was like, okay. But it's called the light burst theory. It's also called something more technical radiation, something. But in the last year, there's been this revelation. There's been this video that's been going around online that shows the moment that conception happens, the sperm meeting the egg in a woman,

there's this burst of light. And there's these videos online showing that there's this burst of light once the sperm meets the egg. The connection, there's this like, it's like this life. It's like this burst of life that brings, light or life into this world. And it's fascinating and it really kind of brings you into this deeper understanding of

creation. But let me bring here. So there's that aspect of things, but I don't know why I did that. Let me just bring you guys back over here. So there's that aspect of things. But in the shroud here, It looks like one of the theories is that the way the cloth was, first of all, draped over Christ, it wouldn't have been draped over his entire body, but it'd have been just kind of covering the top layer of him.

So, one, the 3D model is inaccurate that he's arguing. But two, it doesn't make sense. As far as I understand, it doesn't make sense why we have such an accurate. image of whoever this is, I think it's Christ, but whoever this is on the shroud. And one of the

theories, hypothesis, is that at the moment of his resurrection, there was a supernatural burst of light. And there's scientific reasoning behind this that I can't relate to you because you guys know. But

there was this burst of light that literally was like the world's first x-ray image that imprinted this image on the cloth. This cloth has blood on it that is extremely rare, A.B. Blood type, which is most common in the Middle East. It's a very rare blood, but where it is most common is in the Middle East. And it does have that on the shroud, but it does not have it deeply layered into the shroud. It's just surface level. There's a lot of arguments we made, and I'm not the one to make it. Doug will make it on the show next week.

But there is a real argument to be had that this is almost an impossible forgery. This is almost impossible to be a piece of art from many of all times. There's no way that they can even recreate what we have here. they've tried. And so we've heard that before. We've heard that before. We can't recreate pyramids. We don't know how that was created. There's so many things that we have mysteries of is like, how did they do that back then? And this is another one of those things. But what we often discuss in the show, a lot of those, how did that happen back then kind of things for us tends to have a supernatural explanation. And the shrouded turn is, in my life,

mind, one of the most fascinating religious relics that we have. And to me, it really points to a supernatural origin. And I think it's just an absolutely fascinating piece of evidence that we have. So that's the shroud. And I find it, I find it fascinating, but even more so, confirming, I would say. I find it it's something that really strengthens my supernatural worldview.

And that gets me excited. So like I said, next week, I hope that you guys enjoy that episode and learn some things from it. And just really puts things in perspective. So we got heavenly realms being imprinted on

cloths, burial cloths, and by the way, let me just go down this little rabbit hole with you real quick on the burial cloth in the Bible. The Greek word, and this is, I haven't, I wasn't planning on talking about this, but I'm going to talk about it and hopefully I get it right. The Greek word for the burial cloth that they use for Christ is Sindon.

And there are other Greek words, and there's other words in the scripture that are used to describe linens. But when it comes to the linen, the burial cloth that they used on Christ, they use the word sindone. And the word sindone is used several times in this scenario of the burial cloth of Christ, a Sindone. It's used several times in the scripture. However, there is one other time that it is used in scripture that it's not pertaining to this story of Christ's death, burial, and resurrection. The word Sindone is used in Mark. I think it's in Mark. Because both stories are covered in John and

Mark. I believe it's in Mark. So Jesus is the night that he's arrested. He's in the garden and there is a whole group of people who come to arrest him, you know, the Judas kiss. And in that story, they say, are you Jesus of Nazareth? And he says, I am. And there, in the scripture, it says that when he said, I am, all the people that were there, and there are lots of theologians that suggest that there could be up to three to six hundred men that came that night to arrest Jesus. Why do you need that many people to arrest a single man, unless you already know that single man packs a serious punch? And he flexed there. And honestly, he flexed there. We know that he did not want this to happen. He was praying,

Father, take this cup from me. However, nevertheless, your will be done. The human side of Christ did not want to go through the excruciating pain he was about to go through. But he was ready, and willing to do it in a moment's notice for all mankind. And so when he stands up after he's done pleading and these men come to arrest him and they say, are you Jesus of Nazareth? He says, I am. And all those men, it says in the scripture, fell backwards. They fell down.

It was like a supernatural pulse of energy that shot out from him as God in the flesh when he says, I am, which goes back to Exodus, where God, that's what God told Moses. His name was, I am. And so it had theological weight. They understood it. And he projected, there was this pulse of energy that went out, knocked these men down after he said, I am, I am God.

And they get back up. And I can only imagine they stammered with this because they asked again, they're like, are you Jesus of Nazareth? Because they're like, please don't do that again. and he's like, I already told you who I am. And he let them arrest him. It was like Jesus was saying, I'm going to show you who I am when you ask,

and then I'm going to let you arrest who you know I am. And as they're leading him away, it says that there was this boy following behind the group and they tried to grab him. And as they tried to grab him, his linen fell off and he ran away, naked. And the linen that fell off is described as Sindon. It's the only of the time the word sindone is used in the Bible. And there are people, my friend Rick Renner is one of the people

who, and Rick Renner is a Greek theologian. He's a Greek scholar who I would say theorize, offer a thought on this story, why is it that that boy was wearing a Sindone and not described as anything else other than a burial cloth? Well, it turns out at the bottom of Mount Sinai, there is a very large cemetery. And that cemetery still exists today.

I think there's over 100,000 graves in this cemetery. And it's not far from where this incident happened. And there's a theory that when Christ said, I am in that pulse of energy ejected from him and knocked all those men over, that same energy, that same power that knocked those men over, theoretically could have the same power to resurrect the dead.

And there are people who offer this thought that could it be that that boy was following in confusion as to why he was even there and following the man who just resurrected him from the dead. Interesting. Interesting. But that's the only other place that the word Sindon is used in scripture from what I remember. There's other places that linen is used, but the only place that the word linen is used, and it's described as a burial cloth, is Sindon, and that is with Christ's story and this boy

who so happened to be on the scene after a very supernatural event. So, interesting stuff. We have UFOs in the news, friends. We have UFOs in the news. Let me see here. I'm going to cut that link. And yeah, here we go. There you go.

So Podforce 1. you know, I don't know who Miranda Devin, I think it's pronounced it, Devin, Devin, Miranda Devin. She probably has a background of politics or something like that, but she's definitely got contacts because, I mean, she's interviewing the president and Tom Homan, the border guy, Tulsi Gabbard, Eric Adams. I mean, she's interviewing a lot of these high-powered politicians. she's got 58,000 subscribers on YouTube. I'm like, yo, man, I'm like coming up on 250,000.

Can I get an interview, Tulsi? Can I get an interview Tulsi? I mean, you're over here talking about aliens and UFOs and drones. Can I get an interview? Tulsi. That's all I'm asking for. Just one interview. By the way, little known fact, because I don't like humble brag,

but I don't like bragging about such things. Actually, it's just insignificant. I don't even remember what the situation was, but there was a time in my life, I'd say about a year or two ago, where Tulsi Gabbard liked one of my comments on Instagram. And I was like, holy cow, I quick check my follows. She didn't follow me.

So she was on Pod Force One and with Miranda. And Miranda asks her this. Let's hit play here and hopefully we don't get dinged. I don't think I'm going to get dinged. pause for a second because I will tell you, I think that her husband probably set up this whole thing. If her husband's there, he is probably a big UFO guy.

And I think Tulsi probably went to the bathroom and he pulled Marana, I said, hey, Miranda, ran it. At the end of your interview, you know, why don't you just ask her about UFOs and aliens? I promise you, you're going to like the answer. So I think this was a setup by her husband. Oh, there's no volume. You guys aren't getting that volume?

Oh. You guys aren't getting that audio. That's a bummer. That's a bummer. Okay. Well, that's weird because we were able to get the audio last time. That wasn't an issue. Okay.

Well, I'll tell you, that kind of blows this whole segment out of the water. We'll have to figure that out. That's interesting because last week I did play video. I did play video. Maybe it was just not on YouTube. Maybe it's like, maybe it's something to do with the YouTube audio. Let's see here real quick. Sound automatic settings connection is, I don't know. I don't know. That's a bummer. That's a bummer. So basically what you're, what this whole exchange was about now. Now, darn it, I'm got to do this from memory. Basically, she says that she believes in aliens, and she has to be careful with what she says because she has access to a lot of classified information.

And so we'll just go with that for the time being here. I think that we see, you know, since January, since the turn of the administration and before, but there's been this governmental weaving, bobbing and weaving with the topic of UFOs. And I think when we see this kind of exchange happen, it's an opportunity for that, the bob and weave. I think they want to keep it on the forefront of our minds and our attention. But I also think that they're not willing, maybe it's the right word, not even. even ready but willing to give us what they know, what, I don't know. It just, I feel like there is

this, and I brought this up. So I interviewed a congressman this earlier this week. That will air probably sooner than later. And I brought to something. Because him and I, we talked to, he's one of the people who are on the disclosure cases and sitting in these hearings. And I brought a lot of things to him. But one of the things I brought up is this idea that, you know, it feels like to me disclosure is starting to get put on the back burner. And it's not really something that's on the forefront of the mind of the government. It's not something that they're really maybe even interested in.

and actually pursuing anymore. And I think that he disagreed with that. I think that he actually feels like this administration is one of the more transparent administrations and wants to give us disclosure information. I hope he's right. But I feel like this disclosure, UFO

Disclosure stuff is falling in a similar back burner pot as the Epstein list and it bothers me but that said he

as somebody who's active in the disclosure he was pretty adamant with that that our government is still pursuing full disclosure but I guess there's tears to that.

I did get him talking about, I think the later half of that interview was the most fun for me because once I got him warmed up and I was able to steer the conversation in the direction, I got him talking about Fallen Angel technology

being gifted to mankind from other realms as to what we're seeing with UFOs. And I think it went well. I think it went well. He gave me an hour, an hour interview, and I took every minute of it. I think I actually took an extra minute. But we went down that rabbit hole. We went down that rabbit hole.

But anyways, I think that Tulsi Gabbard interview here with the alien topic, it was a bobbing weave situation that I don't know if was actually planned into, but I do think that it's an opportunity to bobbing. and weave with and keep people interested without giving them any information whatsoever. And I think that I'm tired of it. I think a lot of you guys are tired of it. I mean, and really the tired excuse, in my mind, there's only really one excuse, which probably isn't even a valid one, which is the national security side of things, which I mean, that's valid. But how valid of a real excuse is it in this case? Like, is it really even a national security thing? I don't know. I guess it probably is in a sense of like we're probably reverse engineering a lot of this stuff.

We don't want to give secrets away. I get that. But the idea that there's information being withheld, there's a very strategic rollout of this disclosure through these whistleblowers that's pointing people in a very specific direction of these beings being. They want you to believe that these are biological non-human entities that are here on a woo-woo new age mission. that's my gut feeling of how these whistleblowers are being rolled out. And I feel like this interview was an opportunity to kind of keep you engaged in the topic

without giving you anything under the idea of, well, we don't want to give you information that's going to make you want to commit bad things, you know, that's going to harm your faith or harm your body, self-harm, things like that. I feel like they're like, we're really worried about how this is going to affect people. And maybe I'm just so secluded in what I do that I'm like naive. But I think people can handle it. I think people can handle it. I mean, I'm on document saying that when I started the show,

I couldn't have cared any less on. UFOs, aliens, it was just not my bag. My bag was strictly cryptids when I started this show. Some of you're like, I wish you'd go back to that. No, I will go back to it when I feel like it, but this show has evolved as I evolved as a human being. And you got to watch the journey. But I just, I wasn't that interested.

And when the disclosure stuff started happening, I was like, okay, you know, like I already believe that this stuff is happening. and I just didn't, as somebody who doesn't really have a whole lot of faith in government to begin with, I was like, how far is that going to go? It's gone a lot farther than I thought it would. But it just felt empty. But as I learned more and more details came out and really the learning more through people like yourselves talking to me, seeing cases that are out there that really, if this is part of the UFO alien agenda phenomena, I need to have. have perspective and an opinion on. So I started getting much more engaged in the topic as time went

on. But I think that most people can handle it. I really do. And I think there's a lot of people out there like myself who can handle the moment for those who can't handle it. There's going to be a lot of people that have questions. But there is a real perspective to have that will not shake your faith and won't rock your world. You can just look at it as a matter of fact. But you have to establish the understandings beforehand that we do live a supernatural existence, that we do live in a world where there is a cosmic war constantly for your soul. The sooner you can come understand that that is a reality, everything else just falls into place. And so I don't think it needs to destroy people. And I think that interviews like this, Miranda, I mean, I got to figure

you got to just let me know how you get these interviews with only having 60,000 subscribers on YouTube. I mean, my goodness, you don't even have a thousand ratings and reviews on Apple. I checked already. Yeah, I got to get these interviews, which I did. I got one. I got a congressman this past week, and I'm planning on getting more. But I just feel like these kind of interviews are just more throwing out little pieces to get people excited. Like, I mean, In reality, like when I saw news that Tulsi was talking about, I was like, oh, shoot, let's check it out. It really wasn't that much. So even though the audio wasn't working, count yourselves blessed.

You get to hear me yap about it because there really wasn't much yapping about it. She's like, I really can't say much, but I definitely do believe the truth is out there. And then she started talking about the drone situation and how she thinks that there's more to it than what we've been told because of how it happened all over the country. It just wasn't in New Jersey. And the interviewer seemed to be kind of surprised by that. And that's why these people need an interview with people like me. Because we already know that. We can ask the right questions, but that's why they're not interviewing with us,

because they don't want the interviews to go that direction. And so kudos to the congressman who sat down with me. I'm strategically not telling you guys who it was. I wanted to be a little bit of a surprise. But I think it will leak out. I think it will leak out anyways. Shout out to Wendy for the super chat. Tony, would you ever interview Chris Bledso?

He is convinced he is communicating with angels. I would not interview Chris Bledso for your entertainment. I would have a private conversation with Chris Bledso because I've been fairly outspoken about what he's doing. And I view Chris Bledso as direct opposition. Yeah, I go into details on upcoming interviews about it because it's been something that we talked about a lot. But I think that Chris Bledso and I would have a fantastic conversation,

but it needs to be off air. That's the way I view it. There's a lot of things to discuss. But, and I believe that everything that he's doing and involved in is absolutely real. So I think that, I think that the whole, the whole situation here is that people are strategically sitting down with interviews,

that are not going to really pull back the onion layer. And maybe there's a time coming where more people like me will have opportunities to talk to, you know, set individuals for, you know, more of a complex conversation. I don't see it happening too soon, to be honest with you, because it seems like a very slow rollout to the point that it's almost going in the wrong direction

as far as disclosure goes. It seems like it's a very, it's not disclosure. It feels like it's not disclosure at times. It feels like it's just, I don't know. I don't know. You know what I feel like? I feel like we need to have several minds in one room

that have perspective and opinion to offer. And the willingness that, when I say willingness, I mean, these people like congressmen and, you know, Tulsi or whoever, they need to sit at a table and be willing to openly discuss ideas and thoughts and perspective without falling back to, I can't go there because there's no physical proof. It's like, well, a lot of the things that I'm talking about, you're not going to have physical proof up, man. Like a lot of the stuff that what I'm talking about is like, it's supernatural.

It's supernatural. And you can't go into this wanting to negate the supernatural because the more you peel back the onion, the more the supernatural surfaces and you can't get around it. And so we need a group of people who are willing to go down the supernatural rabbit hole and be okay with the public perception. I think a lot of people are worried about what people are going to think. And maybe I just, maybe I'm beyond that now.

I would like to hope so because my goodness, the worrying of public perception of your opinions and what you say and what you think is enough to drive you crazy. The sooner you can get over that hurdle, the better for yourself and everybody else. But yeah, I think that this whole disclosure stuff is kind of, it seems like it's slowing down,

but it kind of also goes in spurts too. So maybe it's going to kick in the high gear again. But look forward to it. I have a congressman coming on, and we really did. Kudos to him. I knew him and I met each other before we interviewed, and we had some really, really good conversation beforehand. And I wasn't sure if he was going to be willing to go down that hole with me.

But he did. He did. in a very, um, a very, um, responsible way. In a very responsible way,

he went down that rabbit hole with me. And, um, he let, he let me lead with the, the wild stuff. And he just provided commentary in a very responsible way. And I appreciated that.

Um, and I don't think it's going to be the last time of him and I talk. Because I think we had a great conversation, a great time. And, um, and I think there's more to come. to be honest with you. And I did leave.

I did leave with one final question. And I'll let you guys know what that final question was. At the end of the interview, I said, I got one final question for you. And I said, where are the giant Nephilim bones, man? And he had an answer for it. He had an answer for it.

And so look forward to that, friends. shroud of turin shroud of turin making its way in the news and it's on the rise in the news as disclosure seems to be slowing down in the news. We have ourselves a heavenly image

coming to the surface of our consciousness and an unholy invasion that is seemingly slowing down in our consciousness and trying to get put on a back burner. But my question to you, friends, is, will you let it get put on the back burner? I hope you guys enjoyed this little chit chat I had with you.

I'm going to get moving here. I have five minutes before I have to hop on an interview with a lady and have a good time talking to her. So until next week, friends, I appreciate you being here on this live show. I'll catch you on the next one. See you.