The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - A Drug Trafficker Answers The Internet's Questions | Ep. #10

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

Johnny answers fan questions like what the future of drug trafficking looks like, what are his biggest regrets, and the state of his former cellmate Jimmy.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now let's get back into it. Was it worth it? Yes, without a doubt. It gave me a lifetime of memories. It helped me become the businessman entrepreneur that I am today. It gave me this risk-taking ability that I carry with me into the legitimate world. And look, I almost got away with what I set out to achieve, which is a million dollars. I mean, I achieved what I set out to.

I made a million bucks. You know, I just fucked up and lost it all, right? But, you know, it was absolutely worth it. I only had to spend, you know, a year and a half locked up. So, you know, people ask me all the time, was it worth it? Would it have been worth it to you to go back and do time if you could have kept all the money? I'd say absolutely. You know, if I could have a million bucks at 24 and go in and do 18 months and get out and,

you know, have enough money to last me a lifetime, I probably would have done it, you know. So, yeah, it was definitely worth it. And it gave me all this, you know, stuff to talk about, right? I've got this whole thriving YouTube channel now. some of my best jokes on stage involved going to prison and being in the drug game. So, yes, it was totally worth it. I can't say the same for most drug dealers, though,

and most criminals, I don't, even though they might tell you different, I don't think it's, I don't think it was worth it for them because a lot of them had to do a lot more prison time. You know, people selling drugs at my level, many of them got locked up and are still in there. Some of them are doing life.

Many of them got killed. So no, no amount of money. is worth that kind of sacrifice for your life like that or for 20 or 30 years. But, you know, that's why weed was such a great business to get into in the era that I got into it because there was a high reward, high profit margin for little risk, right? So we're talking about a million bucks for a year and a half of my life. So yeah, yeah. Overall, it was definitely worth it. Ah, how difficult was it for me to find it connect? Well, it took years.

It took years. If you go back and watch my videos, you'll see that I'm very open about how long it took me to make any kind of real money in the drug game. It takes the same amount of time to make any kind of money in real business, five to ten years. I mean, it's taken me almost ten years to kind of break out and have some success in show business. And the same was true with selling drugs. I mean, I think I met my first grower, my first real connect that leveled me up in the game when I was 21, maybe 22. And by then, I had already been selling dope nickel and diming for four or five years. So I really put in my time.

I put in my 10,000 hours, you know. And, you know, work is work. We worked. I mean, we hustled. Like, we were out there scraping by, getting robbed, robbing people. You know, everything that came with existing in the street, in the muck, that's what we did. And we wrestled ourselves out of it. And look, you're just going to meet somebody.

If you put your mind to something, if you say we are going to find a drug supplier that's going to help us ascend in the business, you're going to, you're going to accomplish it eventually. But careful what you wish for, of course, you know. But so it took a while. It's hard. It's hard. I mean, you know, with other kind of drugs, right? If you're into hard drugs selling coke or, you know, heroin or anything like that, I mean, to finding a connect is extremely difficult. And getting a connect in a source country is almost impossible.

But can be done. I mean, I could get you a connect today if you wanted to meet me in Columbia. Not that I would do this, YouTube, but I, you know, I could pick up and introduce you to somebody in Colombia tomorrow. So finding a connect is not really the hard. part. It's what to do with the dope once you get connected with it because you could buy five keys in Medellin for, you know, $2,000 a piece, but how are you going to get those off? How are you going to make any money? How are you going to move them to the States? That's really, that's really what counts. So, you know, finding a connect is pretty difficult overall, but anybody,

any dealer can do it if they hang in there long enough and are able to save enough money and and avoid being arrested. What do I think about marijuana legalization? Well, it just depends on what perspective you're looking at it through. For most people, it's a great thing. It's long overdue, right? It's great for consumers. You know, people, old people, like my mother, who need it, CBD or, you know,

dummies to sleep or for their aches and pains, it's great. For cancer patients, everybody that needs pot, I mean, it's a very good thing. It's even a good thing for people that want to smoke, right? I mean, it should be legal. It's a personal choice, right? It's like alcohol. You cannot, they tried to prohibit it, and it just made the mob rich back in the 20s, right? Same with weed, right?

They made assholes like me and, you know, cartels and all different stripes of criminals very rich for a long time. So, unfortunately, because, you know, part of me still is that. Deep down, I am still a criminal, you know, and a hustler and an opportunist. It's not so good for them. It's not so good for the dealers, right? Because I think, you know, as marijuana becomes federally legal, you're going to see a lot of private equity and, you know, big capital firms out of New York,

predatory capital firms, really like monopolizing more than they already have, you know, the weed market, like they've done with tobacco. So, you know, I think it's just going to push the little guy out. Even the little guy who's got a legit operation will have a hard time competing with, you know, some of these bigger firms that will inevitably step in and buy, you know, all the acreage and all the greenhouse space and have all the capital to, you know, undercut people. So there's good and bad that comes with legalization. Obviously, people are going to have to figure it out, like in California that's been legal for years.

but illegal weed still dominates the market because they're taxing it so much that it leaves open a space for the black market for the for the dealers still which is a good thing you know it's and we're doing an episode about this right now the seniloa cartel 60% of their business before legalization in the united states was pot it was exporting pot to the u.s 60%. So for them, what they're doing now is they are reinventing themselves. They have tons of legit grow-ops all over Kulia Khan, which is the capital, and these different regions in Sinaloa, Mexico. And what they're doing now is they're growing pot that looks like it was grown in a greenhouse in L.A. Fire. Just, you know, the best indoor-grown weed, and they're distributing it in these dispensaries.

And as a matter of fact, you know, next episode, you're going to see what we're talking about. because we're going to be down there filming and interviewing these guys. So even though it's been tough for a lot of people, a lot of dealers, right? And it's even put some cartels in Mexico out of business. You know, the big guys, criminals will always find a way. Drugs will always find a way. Life finds a way. So, you know, I think overall in the U.S., it's a good thing.

It's a good thing. It's just, it doesn't really matter what I think about it. It is what it is. It's inevitable that in the next few years, it will pretty much be legal everywhere, and that'll mean people are getting out of prison. People will get criminal records. People that aren't really criminals, but got criminal records, will get those wiped out, and they can have access to credit and housing and, you know, perhaps things that they couldn't

have when, you know, they got popped with weed. So, but I tell you, boy, I miss it. I miss the days when it was an outlaw business. I've said it before on this show. I wouldn't have done it if it wasn't illegal. Because half of the reason I did it was for the rush, you know, was for the criminal identity. So, but yeah, overall, on a societal level, yes,

it's a good thing that's becoming legal. And, you know, that's good. I'm happy for that. Should all drugs be legalized? Well, I don't know. I mean, it depends, right? Like, in America, we don't do anything right, that we set out to do.

I mean, Europe has figured out a way to legalize most drugs, at least at a consumption level, right? Places like Portugal and Switzerland and Amsterdam. But America tries to do that, and it just opens the floodgate for, you know, all sorts of, like, petty crime, right? So in Los Angeles right now, you can't walk a block without seeing, you know,

homeless cities and people doing drugs, you know, hard drugs and openly. and it just creates fucked up quality of life for ordinary citizens. And that leads to a lot of street crime and shit. So, you know, making all drugs legal and who's going to distribute these legal drugs? You know what I'm saying? The government? Because drugs won't stop. The government's going to make fentanyl pills.

The government's going to produce heroin, synthetic heroin. I mean, they probably have the capability to do it, but I don't know what that would look like. You know what I mean? So I think probably the way to do it is to, decriminalize drugs for using them. You shouldn't be throwing heroin addicts in prison, right? Unless they've committed real crimes behind them. You shouldn't be putting junkies in prison.

You should probably be putting them in rehab centers and shit. But keep it illegal. Keep it illegal. Let the cartels do their thing, you know? Because there's just, they're going to do it better than the government. Private business will almost always do it better than the government. So, you know, even though Coke is decriminalized in Amsterdam, let's say, some of the biggest drug gangs, some of the biggest Coke kingpins in Europe come out of Amsterdam now, come out of the Netherlands. So, yeah, I think if all drugs were to be legalized, I think that it would get pretty ugly in America because America doesn't really do anything right when it comes to radical, social.

experiments like that. The only good thing we do better than anyone is make money. So I think that just like the Sina Loans, who are making money selling weed legally, but are still a cartel, I think the cartel will always adapt. So I think it'll be generations before you see the cartels capitulate because of drug legalization. They'll be able to get their foot in the door somehow, you know? What was my biggest regret for my years in the drug game? Well, not getting away with the money. That's pretty high on the list, wouldn't you say? Losing all my money and going to prison. That was a pretty gigantic regret.

Would have rather gone to prison and kept the money for sure. But yeah, it would have been being careless at the end, not hiding the money in the way that I knew it really needed to be hid, you know, keeping money in safe deposit boxes under my name. Like, come on, Mitchell, you know better than that. You know, I was way too deep and thorough to be making mistakes like that. So, of course, yeah, no, I regret that a ton. I mean, not laundering the money appropriately and not starting the laundering process

early enough, you know? Like I talk about, I think it's the second or third episode where I explain money laundering and how, you know, individual drug dealers should begin laundering their money at the $50, $7,000 profit mark because they're able to slip under the radar and just kind of, grow it and they're able to turn it into legitimate businesses before they even get arrested. So, you know, and there's probably a ton of guys like that, really. I mean, there's probably a lot of guys, especially, you know, boomers and things like that, guys who were of the Vietnam generation who got into hash and pot smuggling and even some Coke that probably made a bunch of money

and rolled it over into legitimate businesses, especially back then when it was just easier to hide all that stuff. So that's really, that was my goal was to turn my profit, my million bucks, into a whole empire of legitimate businesses. That's the real drug dealer's dream. The dream is to get out. That's the gangster's dream is to not be a gangster anymore, as I, as I've said. So yeah, my biggest regret was not seeing the end earlier, not not being satisfied with, $200,000 or $500,000 and seeing what that amount of money could have done for a kid like me, right? I didn't need a million dollars.

I didn't need $2 million. That was just extra. That was just greed. So, but that's very common. That's just the tale as old as time with any kind of fast money. But that is, that is my biggest regret to this day is not, you know, being able to flip that money into something legit.

How to my years as a drug dealer help me in comedy now? Criminals and comedians are a lot alike, believe it or not. We have this angst within us, this dissatisfaction with society and the way things are. We can't quite accept it, right? That's why I got into comedy because I couldn't accept working a real job. I couldn't accept this kind of like nine to five middle class normalcy that, you know, I've seen all my friends who I grew up with kind of, you know, evolve into, you know, family men with square jobs.

They got to go off every day to work and they kiss their wives when they get home and they go to their kids soccer practices. Yeah, I grew up that way. And it always bored me. So, and that's part of the reason that I got into drug dealing in the first place was because it's a fuck you. It's a gigantic suck my dick to society. And every time you get away with selling drugs,

You've beaten society. You've beaten all the laws and the police apparatus and the courts, which are society. You've beaten them because they throw everything at you to try to stop you and still you've prevailed. So, and a comedian feels the same way. He's up on stage and he's talking about everything that you're not supposed to talk about. He's giving a fuck you to the norms, to societal norms. And he's, you know, he's standing on his own. And that's kind of, I feel that the criminal mindset is much the same.

So I think my criminality led me into comedy. A, because I discovered comedy while I was in prison, right? I discovered it was something I loved to do. B, it created a fierce independence in me, getting rich, at a young age, it created this desire in me to always be free. And, you know, back then I was free through money. That's what freed me. And today, you know, money's still great, but the freedom is in the ability to get on stage

and pretty much do whatever I want to do as long as it's funny. Who is your favorite drug trafficker and why? Well, you know, I didn't know these men personally. I know many famous drug kingpins have done very bad things, so I can't really co-sign a favorite. But, you know, there's definitely some careers that I've looked up to. You know, Ochoa. Ochoa was the guy, I think, Raphael Ochoa,

of the Ochoa dynasty out of Columbia, out of Medell. Now, he was really the one behind the Medellin cartel. Most people think it's Pablo Escobar, right? They think it was Escobar. He was the frontman. They say that it was actually the Ochoas that were the most powerful. And they were these oligarchs out of Columbia, you know? And old man Ochoa, big fat, portly Ochoa.

You know, he was a horse breeder, billionaire, businessman. But they say what propped up the fortune was, of course, he was one of the early pioneers of the cocaine industry of, right, exporting cocaine to the world market. So never did a day in jail. I don't know about his children. His children might have got into it thick and ended up getting killed and locked up like everybody else, but it would have been old man, Ochoa, you know.

And these are the days, these are the early 70s before a lot of the violence kind of really left like a stain on the drug traffic, you know? Because I don't like the drug. I don't like violence in the drug game. I never have. I've always thought, God, there's got to be a better way to be able to sell drugs

without committing horrific violence. I think there probably is, right? But, you know, how else do you enforce when money is just out there with no contracts to legitimize it and somebody rips you off? How are you supposed to go collect from him, right? But anyways, I detract.

I say it's Ochoa. first in the drug, really, really pioneer the Coke game, made billions, never went to jail, probably didn't have to kill too many people. So somebody like that. And of course, anybody, like, you know, my dad, my father, my lawyer father has friends who were, you know, these big pot smugglers, right? These hippies turned pot smugglers back in like, you know, the late 60s, early 70s. And, you know, these guys got away with millions back then. And, you know, these guys got away with millions back then and now they're, you know, big real estate guys and they've owned, you know, tons of different businesses. And they've been legit for years. But those guys probably never

saw any time or if they did, it was very little. So anybody that fucking gets away with it on an independent level and it doesn't have to be part of a cartel, now those are my favorite, you know, the guys you never hear about, really. Memorial Day weekend is almost here. And it's time to kick off summer right. When I'm getting ready for the first big weekend of summer, total wine and more is my go-to, especially when I'm firing up the grill with family. I'll grab refreshing beers, easy drinking wines, and some hard seltzers for the cooler. And with everything that goes into summer, it's nice knowing you're getting the lowest prices. Total Wine and More, your Memorial Day, made easy. Shop Total Wine and More in store or online. Spirits not sold in

Virginia and North Carolina. Drink responsibly must be 21. Coming from a middle class family in Portland, Oregon, what made you want to become a criminal in the first place? Well, just movies, I would say, were the first thing. Rap. Rap music first, right? I'm a product of the 90s, right? 80s babies came up listening to gangster rap. Reasonable doubt by Jay Z. 96. I mean, the whole album is like this complete glorification of what I've been talking about, which is the street life drug dealer turned legitimate mogul. You know, that kind of stuff just gives me the chills. It still does.

It drives. You know, I'm more driven and inspired, even in comedy and show business, by rappers than I am by other comedians. The aspiration of it. The aspiration of it. And then, of course, Scarface and movies, the Godfather and, you know, on a more hip-hop level, Belly was a huge influence. Movies like Paid and Full. And it's funny because you see how those movies end.

Everybody ends up dead or locked up. But, you know, that didn't, we conveniently block that part out. But deeper than that, it was something in the spirit that I have, which is, you know, know, I don't follow rules well. I never have, never will. I found the middle class lifestyle stifling and boring and repetitive and predictable. And nothing about the drug game is boring or stifling or predictable. And the ability to take, you know, the drug dealer, the criminal in general, but the drug dealer

specifically has their future in their hands, right? Like Al Capone said, the American dream is available to any man that's willing to reach out and grab it with both hands. And that was attractive to me. You know, it still is. But with drug dealing, it was such an easy entry point, you know. It was such a, it's, I love drug dealing. I love dope dealing. I love it.

And I'll never apologize for it. It's the most pure kind of capitalism that exists. supply that meets immediate demand. So those kids out on the corner in East Baltimore or North Philadelphia or South Central Los Angeles that are selling a crack rock or a dime bag of heroin and taking in the money off the street, it's kind of what America is built on, which is supposed to be business that is unimpeded by government. So I just thought that was cool.

I thought it was amazing. How do you take this pound of weed? How do you take this block of cocaine and just go poof? And it's like the money, the money just comes to you off the street. You go to the street and the street pays you back. So, yeah, I think it's a combination of all that kind of stuff. It was the, as soon as I found out that you could make a living, selling weed, selling bud, selling pot.

I didn't even know that you could get rich. Fuck all that. I just, wow, I don't have to work a job. I can just sell weed and live my life as a free man. Well, you know, that was attractive to me from day one. Why am I not scared to talk about this? Well, a lot of people are scared for me to talk about this. I'm not scared.

Well, the statutes have long. since run out, you know. I've waited over 10 years to talk about it. So legally, I'm in no kind of hot water. I, you know, seen homicides, been witnessed to crimes that don't have a statute. But there's nothing linking me that you could send the DEA, you could send the FBI, you could send any kind of law enforcement body, you know, corrections officers to come to talk to me. I will never tell, You know, you can pin nothing on me. So that's why I'm not scared. And look, any kind of criminal element that I used to deal with,

whether buyers, suppliers, middlemen, workers, everybody's retired or they're dead or they're locked up. So I don't see any real downside to it. And people hit me up all the time. I get a lot of DMs from drug dealers, you know, you young kids out there. make me laugh. You say, Mitchell, you're giving up the game. What are you doing? You're telling the secrets. Well, just remember, the game is to be sold. So consider that I might be selling game. You know what I mean? So I think, and plus, you know, the cops, I'm not saying anything new, really.

I'm just saying it in a new way. But, you know, the cops know all the tricks. And, you know, I'm not getting anybody in trouble. Quite frankly, I'm proud of it. I'm proud that I was able to live this experience and come out of it alive without being a rat, without having committed too much violence, right? I never had to kill anybody. I, you know, was involved in some, you know, rip-offs and stuff like that back when we were kids. You know, I'm not happy about it, but I've long since paid my debt for it. Paid my debt for that shit, you know, five times over. So I don't know. Not only am I not scared to talk about it, I think my goal is to inspire people.

It's to inspire people that were locked up like me or are hustlers like me. Maybe you had nothing to do with drugs. Hopefully you didn't, right? But you're a hustler and you want to become an entrepreneur and you want to create financial freedom. Well, maybe you could, you know, find that in me and use that as motivation to, to go turn yourself into a mogul or find something that you love to do and turn it into a business like I have, right? And to let people know, you can turn yourselves around. You can make, it's not over for you. You make a couple of mistakes, you know, unless you're dead or you're locked

up for life. There's always time to bounce back. There always is. Making money is easy. I wish I knew back then what I knew now about how easy making money is. You know, you just put your mind to it. If you put your mind to making money, you will make money. Now, the idea to be happy is probably to make money at something that you like or that you love, but you can always make money. It's everywhere. They're not stopping printing it, you know? So, yeah. Yeah, so I'm not scared to talk about it. I'm thrilled and I'm thrilled you enjoy it. So many of you have reached out and asked me, what my old partner in crime and best friend thinks about the show. He loves it.

He is the best friend that a man could have. We are as tight now as we were back then. And he's just proud of me as he always was. Some of the episodes have given him PTSD for sure. He remembers the days that we took trips up the I-5 and we would get pulled over. And, you know, time would stop and our hearts would speed up. And, you know, we went into complete survival mode. And that, you know, that scares the shit out of him.

He says he gets a visceral reaction when he watches those episodes. But I think he uses it as a, you know, to go down memory laying. Because just like me, he, man, he misses counting out stacks of cash and fucking watching those pounds moving the front door and leave out the back door, man. I mean, we pushed weight. thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of pounds tons of weed i pushed with that man so no i think he's very proud of me and i'm proud of him you know what is the future of drug trafficking it's robust it's not going anywhere if i were a wall street guy i would be bullish on drug trafficking

uh you know especially with the youth this goofy shit now you know fentanyl MDMA ketamine acid is made a huge comeback. You know, people will never stop getting high. Not until they really fix what's going on, right, on a spiritual level. Not until society goes to a real revolution. Will people be curtailing the use of drugs? Not even cocaine is really going away. It doesn't seem like.

I mean, every other day you hear about somebody dropping dead from doing coke laced with fentanyl. But, you know, the cartels continue. continue to thrive. You know, Sinaloa is stronger than ever. Columbia is exporting at record levels. You know, pot is everywhere. You know, Europe, hash is being brought in, you know, bringing billions of dollars a year to the Moroccan and the Spanish gangs. So, so I think it's robust. I think it's going to be here to stay as long as, you know, depression and anxiety and pain, internal pain, run rampant through the society, right? And that's not going anywhere. That's not going anywhere.

And there's a myriad of reasons I don't need to get into them about why the youth feel so hopeless and so drained and so depressed and feel like their lives are so meaningless that they just, turn to drugs to numb themselves out. So, you know, that's not going anywhere. So, yeah, the future drug trafficking is bright. What are the best drug markets now and what will be the best places to sell drugs in the future? Well, I touched on this in an earlier episode. Best markets right now, it depends what the drug is. But for cocaine, it is Europe and Australia because they are the furthest away from the source

country, right? Columbia, Peru, Bolivia, and therefore they fetch the highest prices. So the further away you are, the more risk you're going to have to take, the higher you're going to be able to charge people for your drugs. So, you know, Australia right now, I mean, every other day they're catching, you know, barge loads, ton, multi-ton loads of coke coming in. You know, I think they're even starting to send cartel submarines from Colombia now that can make it all the way. to the shores of Australia. So, you know, the price there for a gram of blows 400 bucks for one gram, right? That's insane.

Compare it to Medellin, Colombia, where it's going for like, literally wholesale. I would buy a gram for $2, right? Try to wrap your head around that. Also, meth is huge over there in Australia, right? But for Coke, it's going to be, yeah, the European countries, Australia, and, yeah, Yeah, and in Asia it's going to be methamphetamine. It's going to be speed, you know, the Asian triangle, right? Burma, Thailand, and I think what's the other country, Lao?

You know, they're producing more methamphetamine than they know what the fuck to do with. And some of the biggest Asian drug gangs, you should look into this. I think it's called the triad. Those are the most fascinating gangs because the Asians got their shit together, boy. And you talk about people that keep a low profile and don't talk a lot. Those would be the Asians. So they just took down one of the leaders, but they have one of the longest lasting drug Kingpin legacies in the world.

So that's a fascinating thing that we'll probably try to get into at some point on the Connect. And then for pot, for illegal pot, I would say it's a tough question because, you know, the Western societies are making pot legal. So it's a little harder to make money. I would say England for pot because high user base, the UK in general, drugs are still all illegal there. I don't know why it's taking them so long to make pot legal, but price is high and it's illegal.

So there's big, big money to be made selling pot in the UK. And, you know, the rest, right, fentanyl, that's an American phenomenon. I don't really think there's fentanyl. anywhere else in the world right now. So obviously for the cartel, the best place for them to sell their fentanyl pills is in the U.S. Unfortunately, I think it's a very bad drug. I think it's probably fucking up the Coke game.

But right now, they're starting to make a killing in the U.S. at Canada pushing fentanyl to people. Okay, so you guys are asking me if I have an update on Jimmy. Jimmy, as you know, if you've been following the show, was my former cellmate and shot caller for the Hells Angels. inside of Two Rivers Correctional Facility, where I was locked up. He saved my life. He made sure that I made it out of there alive.

I used to put in work for him, you know, smuggle balloons, collect cash for him. You know, he gave me my first prison shank. So Jimmy really, and most importantly, he inspired me to get out of the game and move to Hollywood and get into show business. Let's not forget that. You know, he was the one that really kind of like signed off on me when he saw him. when he saw me do comedy in some of those talent show nights that we used to have. So Jimmy, unfortunately, as you know, he ended up killing somebody in a prison riot at Two Rivers. Some guy stepped to him with a shank, one of his enemies, and he just laid him out, hit him with his fist and broke the guy's neck.

And they sent him to death row for that. So for the last decade since I've been out of prison, Jimmy has been fighting that. and they banned the death penalty in Oregon and they were actually using his case as an argument to try to bring it back, which is total bullshit. But be that as it may, he's been kind of suffering on death row

fighting his case with minimal resources. You know, he's been relying on public defenders to kind of push his case forward. So, you know, I think Jimmy has probably not long for this world. Now, I know a lot of you have been asking us how do you get a hold of him

you want to write him letters you want to send him money on his books want to put money on his books the thing is we've we've given him a fake name for a reason because you know some of the things we've said about him have implicated him in crimes right and although he is doing life uh he doesn't need another case on him right because they're trying to they're coming for him so he doesn't need another rico case he doesn't need anything i've said to be used against him to get him in more trouble than he already is. So unfortunately, we're not going to give out his information on the podcast, but we really appreciate that you guys care about this guy because he is such a compelling character in the story of my life. And I owe him my life. And, you know, it's hard for me to even talk about.

But Jimmy is still currently on death row. And we are just awaiting that to be adjudicated. I'm quite certain that he will be found innocent, right? But, you know, these things take forever, especially death row cases. But thank you for asking that. You know, we really appreciate it. And I, you know, all you can offer is our thoughts and prayers for him and for people like him. You know, keep in mind, I've been writing letters to Jimmy for the past 11 years and I've never heard back from him. And that's probably because he's being held in solitary confinement and gets moved prison to prison so often that it's just too taxing on him. And, you know, I think the guy may be losing his mind.

I think that kind of torture, what that does to a person's mind is like what it would do to any animal when you isolate it from everybody else. It would just completely drive you insane. So I don't know. Or maybe he just doesn't give a shit. I don't know what's going on with him,

but, you know, it's concerning and, you know, it's probably indicative of the way that the system is finally broken him after all these decades. You know, Jimmy, Jimmy never let prison define him. He controlled his environment in prison. He was running the dope. He was running the gambling. He was paying off the guards. He was calling the hits. But just like any crook, he, he finally ran out of wind. So I think your thoughts and prayers will have to do, but they're very nice. And we're glad that we're glad that you the thought is what counts so we really appreciate that from you guys

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