The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - Dominican Drug Lord Adam Diaz Exposes Secrets Of His Cocaine Smuggling Empire (Part 2)

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

In this PART 2 episode, Dominican kingpin Adam Diaz sits down for a wild, unfiltered conversation about his rise from the streets of New York to the top levels of the cocaine trade. He talks about building major operations in Brooklyn, working with powerful Colombian connections, and moving massive amounts of cocaine through mules, warehouses, and import businesses. Adam also opens up about prison, trying to go legit after getting out, why he got pulled back into the game, and how his second federal case finally brought everything down. From the Medellín-era drug world to front corporations, heroin deals, close calls with police, and losing millions in property, this is a firsthand story about ambition, power, risk, and the cost of living that life. Topics covered in this interview: -Growing up between the Dominican Republic and New York -Becoming a major cocaine supplier in NYC -Colombian cartel connections -Drug smuggling through luggage and import businesses -Life after prison and failed attempts to go legit -Heroin trafficking in the late 1990s -Federal investigations, informants, and arrest -Deportation and life today Go Support Adam! https://kingofbrooklyn.weebly.com/ Join The Patreon For Bonus Content! https://www.patreon.com/theconnectshow 00:00 Smuggling Cocaine: Early Operations 01:40 Rise in New York's Drug Trade 02:56 Adam's Background and Life in the US 05:00 Becoming a Kingpin & Building Operations 10:12 Prison, Parole, and Reentry 13:39 Getting Back Into the Game 17:52 Partnerships with Medellin Cartel 21:02 New Logistics: Miami to New York 24:33 Innovating Smuggling Tactics 27:09 Launching Shell Companies and Corporations 32:08 Securing Documents and Going International 36:54 Banana & Malanga Shipments: Sophisticated Operations 43:27 Importing and Moving Massive Loads 47:40 Warehouses, Distributors, and the Bronx Connection 51:02 Manpower and Money: Running the Smuggling Business 54:44 Handling Distribution, Losses, and Risks 01:01:29 Who Buys the Coke? Managing Customers 01:06:05 Heroin, Laptops, and Market Expansion 01:11:27 How the Feds Finally Got Adam 01:17:03 Avoiding Law Enforcement and Getting Lucky 01:26:45 Second Indictment, Sentencing, and Prison 01:35:08 Deportation and Life After Prison 01:38:13 Reflections on Life and Legacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He says, we got a problem bringing cocaine from Miami to New York. So I gave him my suggestions. And it worked. I built a corporation. It's called Icy Garcia Corporation. I have my team there that will fill up the containers with green bananas. How many kilos are in a... Usually, a container contains 1,800 or 1,800 boxes.

Out of that, 800 boxes contain cocaine. Two kilos of piece. So you got about a ton and a half? Yeah, but sometimes you send three containers in a day. Okay, now that's four tons of cocaine. Do you think you've moved 200,000 bricks since you started when you were 17? Way more than that. This is Adam Diaz, the former Dominican drug kingpin who ran a cocaine empire out of his Brooklyn

bodegas during the 1980s. After doing a short prison stretch in the feds in the early 1990s, Adam got out and went on an even bigger run, This time establishing an import operation that brought in thousands of kilos a week from South America into New York City. Adam reveals the complex logistics involved in smuggling cocaine bricks hidden inside of legal shipments of bananas and how he had teams of dock workers who would unload the cargo after it arrived on the waterfront ports in New York City, specifically Hunts Point in the Bronx. This is a fascinating insider look at the way that global drug trafficking operates in the modern world through legal cargo and legal points of entry. This is Apex drug smuggling, with hundreds of millions

of dollars going into Adam's pocket. Ladies and gentlemen, part two of his saga, it's Dominican Poppy Adam Diaz right here on The Connect with Johnny Mitchell. All right everybody, as promised, it's Adam Diaz part two. Before we get going, do me a huge favor and smash that like button, drop a comment below. It really helps push the video out to more people. And if you haven't subscribed to the channel yet, just quickly hit that subscribe button and turn on the alert bell. All right, here we go.

Adam Diaz, enjoy. Do you consider yourself more Dominican or more Estadoolitano-American? New Yorker. Great answer. Great answer. That's what I really feel. That's what I really feel. Because the years that you live in your life

and the years that you take most advantage of it, your first love, your first, you know, your... Shooting. High school sweetheart. You're making money the first time, you know. Like when I came to the States and I was a kid and I started, like when they sent you to school in the States and you were a kid and, oh, Mom, you're going to make me breakfast? No, you want to go eat breakfast at the school.

And then you go to school in New York and you eat the most fucking fucking. fucking tasteful fucking preface. Oh, really? Yes. Back then, I don't know now, but back then, oh my God. And then you're there, you eat and you're oh my God, and then you and that's where you

meet the nice, beautiful girl and that's quality time. Yeah, it's your formative years. That's where you made your bones. Yes. You sold your first tonne ala de coca, your first ton of cocaine. Do you think of guys, you're

age in their 20s, were there a lot of guys at your level in New York? Or do you think you're one of the top guys? I'm on the top guys, yeah. Okay. Okay. Because they all come to me, so why would it come to me? Yeah. And guys that were my connection and then when I overpassed them, they were coming to me and they were like, Adam, I need this. Whatever happened to you? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. They think they, because they have to them. They had. limit themselves. I don't limit myself. You were always thinking big. Big. Even when you were 17 years old. And I talk to people and I travel. I travel a lot. Even my clothing. I go to Hawaii sometimes. They got the best clothing. Yeah. Wow. And, and you know. Can you go to Hawaii?

No, no. It's about of the States. Right. So now you're deported. This is where we are now. You are banned from the U.S. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. You'll get back in one day. I could go back in right now. I got friends that got deported. They right in there and I had conversations with them. So you would just pay somebody to bring you in there? I'll go in there anytime.

I just don't want to go there. Why would I go there? What am I going to do there? I don't want to sell drugs anymore. So if I don't want to sell drugs anymore, what am I going to do there? I'm going to have a grocery store legally or am I going to go work for someone? I doesn't make any fucking sense. So where we left off was you're 25, 26 years old in 1989.

You've moved at this point multiple, probably 100 tons of cocaine. Do you think you've moved 2,000, sorry, 200,000 bricks since you started when you were 17? Way more than that. Your Colombian Connect is like loving you. You've got multiple bodegas across Brooklyn. you've got dozens of workers, you've got stash houses, you've got apartments to break up the Coke.

And I mean, it's a whole operation. You got couriers. Listen, I was stacked up in Otisville. And my first cousin, Raul Palma, caused me up. We had a conversation. He says, Adam, I need help. I'm, you know, what do you need?

I need to get in contact with somebody. I give him a contact. Six years later, he gets arrested. Don Berna. Medellin cartel. Yeah. I gave it to him, and they got arrested. Wow.

Yeah. So you knew Don Berna? I gave him Don Berna. Were you working with Don Berna in the 80s? What are his girlfriends? No shit. You're probably a... I have fucking her knowing you know though.

Wow. So you knew the bosses like that. Yes. Wow. So I gave it to him. And I was surprised because I say, this motherfucker owns me money. He got to pay me.

Right. But he got fucked up. So you were always dealing with the Medellin cartel? Yeah, always. In the 80s. In the 80s. And in mid-90s. Okay.

Okay. after Pablo fell. Now, you get 10 years. You do five and a half, six. Yes. And while you're down, you're already thinking about how you're going to get back.

No, I wasn't. I wasn't. If anything, I wasn't even thinking and go back into the, into the wariness, into the drug business. I came out,

and it's amazing because I came out of jail and I needed a job, because my parole officer want me to get a job, legal job, so I could, you know, otherwise it's a violation. So I had my girlfriend called Arning, an Arab guy, and Richard Thomas, that they used to give me work back in the early 80s when I was working in electricity.

And Arnene says, I don't know, problem. Come over and work for me. He likes me. He's been this guy. I mean, I even sleep in his house. That's how much this guy liked me I mean

And Now he's bigger Now he's doing Post offices Hospitals, schools He's in the It's called The

How do you call What they control They control the They control the The Construction Companies in New York The Union So he says

You want to join the union I'm going to say, yeah, but you know, but he started giving me, I couldn't fucking get used to that. Right. I fucking couldn't. You were making three or four million dollars a week in your 20s. You haven't worked because you haven't really worked since 1979. Now it's 1993, 94.

How can you go back to that life? 94, 95. 94, yeah. So you haven't worked on almost 20 years. Yeah, but no, not 20 years. Not even. But it got to me that there was one. that I was at a school in Yankers, high school.

We're doing an electrical job. I'm just working because I have money. I still have money. Right. And I'm just working to fill up being on parole and stuff. And, you know, my parole officer was a nice, nice girl. Her name is Malika Madison, black girl, nice, beautiful, nice. I like her.

She was so sweet to me. She just want me to leave drugs alone and just move on. been, you know, and then my ex-wife was with a cop, and I had several problems with him, and she's trying to control me. She's a brilliant person. And, but that's one time, you know, I'm in a construction site working electricity,

and then we having lunch, we're on the floor as any worker, and there's a magazine, and I'm looking at a magazine, and I saw a porch. Hmm. And there's a guy who's a herpaw, you know, He's a helper. I'm in a retreating. He's an electrical airport.

And he's an Arab guy from Syria, I think. And he's with the other guy who's a boss above me. And the guy says, oh, and I looked at a car and I said, I had this car. But I forgot where I was for a minute. And I forgot who I was. And I'm looking at the car. And I was looking back. I said, Dan.

And then I told the guy I had this car. You see? How? I said, I have the scar before. And then the big boss says, how the fuck you're going to have the scar? Making so much little money and I look at the guy. And I forgot. I said, shit, I fucked up. And I said, never mind. You don't know me.

And I don't know you. So never mind. Go fuck yourself, man. So the next day, Arnie comes to me. That's my boss. He says, Adam, don't open your fucking mouth. I don't know who you are. I know who you are. Give him some time, man.

He's above you because you just started to work for the company again. He's been here of years. You just started again. If you would have fucking stood here a long time ago, maybe you would have been his fucking boss. You would have for sure. Exactly. You would have owned your own company, man.

Exactly. So, you know, that opens my mind up. And I say, ah, fuck. So anyway, the thing is, is that you're not going to believe it. I get out of Yale December what? 22nd. Two days before Christmas.

Never forget. You know they give you khaki's uniform when you're in immigration or whatever. I'm in immigration and I made bail and I paid the bail out and they gained and I was wearing you know this little t-shirts

and and it's clothes outside and so they tell me you made out bail you're going out but you got to go to the

to the ninth floor whatever to get a coat I'm not going up I'm going down I don't want to be in this building anymore no Mr. Diaz

you got to go I'm not going any fucking way except downstairs to the first floor and get the fuck out of here. I spent too many. These guys was spanning me in descending or something. His accent tells me that. But he understood me and he said, all right, Adam, give you a break.

Go down. So I go down with my paperwork and everything. They let me out. It's freezing cold outside. I call my sister Arelli's. I say, I'm already out. She said, I'm in the house. I didn't know.

I say, get you out. over here, come and pick me up. So she gets there, she picks me up, but guess what? She goes over there with my first wife, who happens to leave her husband along, her ex-husband or whatever. He was like a boyfriend, like a boyfriend back then. And she went and picked me all with my sister.

And we spend the night together, we have fun, you know, whatever. And then she invited me to leave the country, not the country, the state. She says, I don't we can start all over again. We can go to Florida, somewhere else, and start a new life. You're a nice guy. I love you. You love me.

All these years, I wanted to marry and I didn't because I was waiting for you. I wanted to make a new life with you. But I couldn't. Just the fact that she was with another man that would be fucking up my brains. I couldn't fucking do it, I say, given some times. So she knows I was playing the game, you know, delaying whatever. But the reason I'm saying this is because I know there was something after that.

So I'm in my house in the Bronx, surfing boulebone, not soft, yeah, surfing boulevard. My father was living there. I was with my father. By the way, do you have cash stashed back at the island? Because you were sending tons of money back here. Yeah, yeah, I have money. And your properties?

Not like I used to, but I have properties and I have money. And were they able to seize any properties down here? They seized a lot of properties. Wow. So they coordinated, the U.S. government coordinated with the Dominican government? I don't know how they did it, but for example, I had a, one of the apartments that I love most, I had a $400,000 apartment in the Capitol and it was near the biggest bank in the Capitol. And that's like worth $25 million dollars right now.

Wow. And that apartment is a penthouse, six and seven floor. Right. Nobody could up more than that. It was huge, huge, huge, beautiful, and I love it. I love it, sentimentally. I like it because I want to raise my daughter there. Yeah.

And when I came back and tried to claim it, they say no. What was some other kind of properties that you had, like? Farms. Mm-hmm. Like 150 acres. Wow. Yeah. Couch, 500 heads of cows.

Wow. It was nice. And then what about the bodega? in New York? No, they confiscated my building on New Lats. They took all that. They took everything. Okay.

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Sanchez Sanchez called me William, William Sanchez he calls me up no old men, old men called me, he died already he passed away

calls me up and he says Rafael Raphael, Raphael Raphael calls me up because we in contact he says Adam I need to talk to you

I say what about I say just just get to Brooklyn he was living on Holt Street in Brooklyn He says, come on over, I need to talk to you. So I go there and I say, well, what about? He says, I know you're not doing too good. William calls me from Miami. Who's William?

William is one of my ex-workers. He's two with one of my connections. So William calls me and says, they want to see you in Miami. The Colombians. Yeah, I say, who want to see me? because there was a technique at the airport that I knew they didn't know about it

to pass coke and the x-ray wouldn't recognize it so they want to know how I do it. So he cussed me up and said, and we want to see you. And I said, listen, I'm on parole. It's not even parole. It's called Special Supervivi Police. Say, I can't go there.

They say, we are very. got that covered. We got a fake ID for you, license, driver, and everything. And we want you here by Monday. And it's a Thursday. And we want to see. And there's no no.

He said, yes, yes. You got to get here. I say shit. And I knew who it was. I said, all right. So I left there. I go there. I couldn't fucking believe it.

But I didn't know that, because I'm always internationally traveling. Like in the 80s, I don't do local traveling. I didn't know it was always easy to travel from Miami to New York or to Texas or L.A. or whatever. They'll ask you for a passport. They don't go crazy. Or you show your ID, get a ticket,

and you up and up in the plane, and you up there. And that's what I did. So I go up there and then they had a conversation with me. They had a meeting, big meeting, a few guys. And these guys were from the Medellín cartel? Yeah. Okay. And that's when they saw me.

And then there's this guy called picochato. Picochato means it's a bottle of rum, Dominican rum, small. When you were drunkhead, when you're an alcoholic, you're always walking around with a picochato

with a chata, it's co chata, with a chata in your back pocket. You grab it and you drink and you grab it and you spend the whole day doing that. It's called chocata. So when you were drunk, like that they call you a picochato. They call him like that because he's a billionaire,

but he still drinks like that. And this is one of your connects? Yeah, not one of my connect. He works for the Major Dean Hotel. So it calls me up, and then we met, and then he says, we need you, man. I say, what? Yeah, we need you, man.

I said, all right. And I said, what do you need for me? He says, we got a problem bringing cocaine from Miami to New York. What are your suggestions? So I gave him my suggestions. And it worked. What were those suggestions? Big bags, big luggagees,

10, 15 kilos out of time. I know how to prepare them so the x-ray won't cut them. Hmm. Okay. Because it was easy. The companies they have, the corporations they had, to bring cocaine from Colombia to Miami and Ecuador and Venezuela. it was easy to bring it to Miami to New York.

Right. So from Miami, then they had to bring the cocaine to New York in luggage. Right. Or any other way, Amtrak, whatever. Right. But I give them the technique and it worked. Okay.

And then I was doing the same thing. Which was? I used to bring Coke from Venezuela and Ecuador to Miami, then from Miami, to New York. Wow. Okay. So you got right back in. Yes. After you had a meeting with these guys.

Yes. Okay. They gave me a lot of money right then and there. Right then, that same day, that day, they gave me a lot of fucking money, a lot of fucking money. I don't have to call Dominican and send me money. I had so much fucking money. I couldn't handle the fucking money. It's a lot of money.

Wow. They give you cash. A lot of cash. A lot of cash. I don't even have to carry it. They say it's going to be where you wanted. I wanted in, I was living in COVID. Avenue near Pelham Parkway, the money's there.

Make call, they're gonna take a luggage full of money. And that's the way it was. So were you working for them just doing these, basically being a courier, a logistics guy? Yes. Okay, how much were you getting paid? How were they paying? I get paid $1,000 per kilo.

And you were moving how many at a time? A lot of kilos. What are we talking? A lot of kilos. A lot of kilos. You get, how many? You get eight to 12 travelers a day, you know, with 10 and 15 kilos. Wow.

And then you get, and then I have to get the workforce. Because when you send someone with 10, 15 kilos in the luggage from Miami to New York City, different airports, LaGuardia, you know, JFK. New York. And Newark. you got to have these guys watch too because some of these guys they escape with the stuff

and sometimes they get cut just like when you send someone from Ecuador in Venezuela to international airport in the States you got to have a guy in the plane watching you

you are the guy bringing the stuff so when you come in this guy's going to be watching you right You're coming in the plane with this guy. So this guy is going to be like looking for his luggage, you know, with the luggage, go around and go around, but he's just watching you. So if you grab your bag and you come right out of the airport and you get cut, that guy is going to watch you and see that you get cut.

And he's going to call me and say, Adam, Julio got cut. Don't answer his phone call. Right. Right. And that's the way we do. So basically you are organizing all of that. from Miami to New York. And organizing the people to pick the,

pick the mules up from the airport, take it to the stashes. No, we, we, I had the whole operation from Miami, from the ground, put the stuff in the bag, put the stuff in the luggage, huge luggage, the biggest fucking luggage. And then get the guys,

I hire the people that has to, in New York and in Miami, hire the people that are gonna bring that stuff in. And then, Hire the people that are going to watch for those people and then the whole entire operation. Oh, my goodness. This is a huge, massively invaluable to the Colombians. Yeah.

Wow. Eight to 12 people a day? Yeah. And they each have 10 kilos? 10 kilos, 15 kilos depends. Sometimes it depends who they are. If you get a student, only 8 kilos, 5 kilos. Mm-hmm.

And this is pre-9-11. so it's a lot less risky and it's domestic. In the 90s, you know, late 90s. Right. How did you source the mules? How did you find the people to carry? There's always mules. Right, right. Because when you're in the street,

when you come from the street, you know how to approach them. And you know in the ghetto, you have a lot of kids, a lot of working force that they don't have a record, and they never travel. You get the money, get a passport, or you get the money, I'm going to give you a couple of thousand dollars,

all I need you to do this, and you're going to make $500 a piece. Yeah. And that's a lot of money for them. For sure, especially back then. Wow, so you could make $1,000 a kilo. You could do, you can make $100,000. $15,000 to $20,000 a day.

Yeah, yeah. And then, then that's when I made it. invest my money and bringing pillows through corporations from Ecuador and Venezuela. Venezuela was my biggest, my biggest option. So now you've, the Colombians helped you get back on your feet. You've, you were, we'll call you a domestic kingpin. You ran the streets, but you were still the middleman. You were still the one getting it, buying the kilos at a market.

kilos at a markup after they're already come to New York. Now you've figured out logistics and operations. Now you want to go all the way down to the source in South America. Wow. How long- I know the source from just even from the 80s, I knew the sources. But it's more complicated like Pablo Escobar, you know, the Medellinca tell. These guys were on the run.

They were operating, but they were on the run. You couldn't just fucking reach out to them. Right. work with his people, you know? And so it's like, listen, we need people that we could trust that the first time I had a conversation with the Medellin Council was like that. We need guys like you, Adam, that we could trust that they're not even worrying about you being a snitch or being a rat because they don't give a shit about that.

They will find out in a heartbeat, who you are, who you are not. What are you doing? They're worrying about you not running with their money. Right. Right. Because they want you to grab 500 kilos and run away. Because then they're going to have to come after you and kill you and they don't want to go through that shit.

They want to make money. That's what they want to do. So they grab me and they say, we know you're not going to. Listen man, in my whole entire, you know, as I've been a camping in the drug business, I never run with nobody's money. Yeah, that's back. I lost money. And I lost a lot of money that is not mine too.

But I never took off of nobody's money. So tell us about Venezuela. Did that also involve the Colombians? Or did you find a new source actually in Venezuela? No, Colombia and Venezuela, they like this. Yeah. They together always. They work within themselves.

Right. And I had nothing to do with that. That Colombia is just a country that was easier to bring the stuff to Miami than Colombia. You mean Venezuela? Venezuela and Ecuador. Okay, tell us about... And Dominican Republic also. Okay. Let's start with... What was the first country? Was it Venezuela? Yes. Okay. How did you do it? How do I do it? You know, I built up a corporation. It's called Isaac Corporation. It's a friend of my name Isaac. So I talked to Isaac. He looks like me. Blue Eyes.

white, a little thicker. You know, anybody could be thicker than me. Because, like, man, this is me now, but I was like 100 pounds. So he's Puerto Rican, and he loves me, nice guy. And he's my second's wife cousin. She's half Italian, half a Puerto Rican, beautiful, gorgeous woman. And I met this guy, we became really close friends. and so

I speak to him and I say look did you ever travel? He says no. Okay. Never mentioned that Mike Kine could give me IDs anywhere, any way

or how I wanted. They could do it, but I don't want to bother them. I don't want to be involved in that environment. I was like, no, no, no. That's a no-no. And I had a Puerto Rican guy also who had connections in the Vaca Ferry Center with the big guy there.

His name is, they call him Chucho, who betray me at the end anyway, but it's okay. And he was the one that taught me the system. You told me, how can you get a fake ID, but real? And the reason is because I know World English this is made for people that immigrants and stuff, but

in your case, it's way, way, way, way better. So I said, okay, so when he taught me the system, we started with Manuel Cuivas, that's one of my, you know, my name. Aliases. Yeah. And we started with that. But I used only locally. Okay. And the reason I used that because he had a record. Not a big drug record, but he had a record. And I couldn't use that anywhere else.

I was just for the cops. Okay, so he was a real person. He's a real person, yeah. You used the information from real people. Yes. But then you got your picture on there and put it on the passport. It has to be real. It's got to be real. If it's not real, there's a problem.

Right. So Manuel Cuabo was just locally. So when the cab stops me, he's my license, well, all right, my insurance card, whatever, bite. Yeah. I'm out of here. Yeah. Isaac is different. Isaac was a truck driver. Totally illegal. Always pay his taxes on time.

Totally legit guy. Nice guy. I had a conversation with him and I say, I could change your life around. You could make a lot of fucking money with me. And he says, how? So just let me use your ID. So how? Just let me use your ID. Keep me your name. You don't use your name. So yes, I'm a truck driver. I say, yes, you do. but do you travel? No. Do you have a blue password? No. I want to have blue password your name.

And says, ah, how much money? I say, don't worry about it. I'm as much as you want. Just let me know. So what we did was we went into a room and I learned his whole life story. And it happens to be a fucking coincidence, but his father's name is Joseph Garcia. My father's name is Joseph Diaz. And then we started from there and then I managed to memorize his whole fucking story, kindergarten, high school, primary, everything. I learned everything about his life. And then I took all that information. I had a guy on motor vehicle departments.

That guy got me a license with that name. Boom. Then I talked to Chucho Chichu got me a It's called Fuck, how did you call that? That little blue card To pay taxes

Social Security? Social Security. I got that. Now I got social security, legal ID and I got a license. And you got a passport? Not yet. Not yet, okay. And those are all under different aliases? No. That's all the same. I think Garcia.

Okay. So that's what I needed to get a passport. And I needed a passport because I wanted to travel to Venezuela without counting on the other guys. So what I did was we went to the, I walked right into the Rockefeller Center, talk to the guy, give him some money, and just made a line. It's called Fast Passport. They gave it to you within 24 hours back then. Not anymore. After 9-11, that was over.

but back then yet. So I went in there and got my blue passport. Now I got everything that takes to travel. So I went to Venezuela, made with some guys there, and we started doing business. Okay, so, and this is all while you're still on supervised release. No, that was after that. Okay, so it's a...

Supervisor... The girl that I was under supervision, Malika Madison, I did good because I was still paying taxes legally, you know, on the legal job and everything. Yeah. That I didn't have to wait three years, two years after I got released. She let me go. She said, I sign you don't have to come here no more.

Give me a court once a month and you're right and you're good. Perfect. So now you went to Venezuela. Did you let the Colombians know that this is what you were going to be? Right. But they're the same Colombians from Florida that you met through that? No, some of the guys that I met. Okay.

And, you know. But because, listen, there was a war in drugs. And the guys that I was with from back in the 80s that Sanchez got to me, they were in trouble. They were running. They were up and running. There was a lot of trouble. Yeah. But in that business, you always meet new people.

Yeah. You always making your moves. You know what I'm saying? So they were connected to them. Right. but they were not receiving orders directly from them. Yeah. By this time, 1997, the Medellin cartel was fractured.

It was all different groups within, from Medellin that were spread out throughout Colombia. Yeah. And there was like, there was, you can't even mention their names. Like when I talk about Pablo, we don't say Pablo, we say doctor, the doctor. We don't say, we don't say, Pablo, that you cannot say Pablo. Point. Did you ever meet the doctor? No.

No. I think I spoke to him because they gave me a long cell phone this big. And they say the boss wanted to talk to you. And he had a black guy in New York. And the guy said, do you know who you spoke with? I say, yeah, maybe he said, you spoke to the big boss. But that was his Sicario. Right. Could have been him, could have been maybe Luis Gacha.

No, Gatcha was not even around anymore. Oh, okay. Because I know those guys and they were not around anymore. Listen, most of these guys are made him in Miami. Right. Right. In the late 80s. So now it's on. How does it work from what's the route from Colombia to Venezuela?

And then how do you get it from Venezuela to New York? Okay, we built a corporation. the corporation and he's on the books is part of public information. Because even the FBI say, how do you fucking manage? Say, go find out. Because when they went in my house, they found everything. They found a lot of fucking information. Couldn't fucking believe you.

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I was a surprise. Oh, my God. How do they know of this shit? But anyway, I built a corporation. It's called Isaac Garcia Corporation. Because I had other corporations, but not under my name. I basically think it's my name, but it's not my name. But I used it as my name.

I don't know how they get from Colombia. Venezuela. When I get the trailer, the big trader, big containers from Venezuela, that's all being made already. It's all there, in there, ready for me to pick it up. It was set up in Caracas? Yes, and I had a set up there. Okay. I have my team there, and there's also a corporation there that will fill up the containers with green bananas, my line gas, mold. The most popular product they make is Malangas. That's a type of banana? No, it's like a big, I don't know how to call it.

It's like a big potato. But the particular structure about this potato is that it don't last long. So custom got it rushed it. If it lasts too long, it gets, it becomes water. like potato. Right. So therefore... They have to rush it through custom.

So you pay extra for that. Right. But also custom is got the rise on. Right. So you have to know when, when is the time to bring it in. Okay. And so they're,

are they in boxes within the containers? Just like the platanos in boxes. Right. Cutting boxes. And then where do you fit the keys in? On the bottom. the same way. Okay, inside the boxes just...

On the bottom of the boxes. Right. They got to set... You got to separate them from the product. Right. And then you just put the malangas on top. On the top. Okay.

And you have to identify the boxes with numbers. You identify the boxes with numbers. The numbers will tell you when the stuff gets to me, they give me a list. The list will tell you which numbers are premier. Okay. And that's what you know where the kilos are right. Okay. And so by the time it gets to you in Venezuela, do you actually...

Not in Venezuela, in New York. Okay, so the keys, they don't get unloaded in Venezuela. They get loaded in Venezuela, but you make a deal in Venezuela. Right. They sent to you to New York, and you received them in New York. I understand that. But this is the key point that people should be fascinated by. How do you get the kilos that you've just received in Venezuela?

How do you get them into the boxes, into the container, onto the ships? There's a whole operation for that. You pay for that. It's like a factory. It's like when you, even when you, even when you, like back in the late 90s and I was sending heroin from, even from Venezuela, even from Colombia, through Mexico, to New York, they have factories, they have laboratories. where they charge you, they have their own operation and I have nothing to do with that.

They have their operations. You pay the price. You say, how much will you charge me to gain me a mullahs this week loaded with heroin? They managed that. I had nothing to do with that.

I paid them a price for that. They get the mullahs ready. They send them. I received them. They gave me the information. I received them in New York. And they're ready to roll. Right.

And so just like with the cocaine and the Malanga's boxes. The same way. You didn't ever have to coordinate putting them onto the ships yourself. No, I don't. No. They have like a factory for that. Right. They get ready.

They say, Adam, your shipment is ready. Send it. Right. So they send it. And I'm just wait. I see. So it just comes to Venezuela from Colombia because your fake company, well, it's a real company, but your front company,

but your front company, the Iza Corporation, is a Malanga exporter from Venezuela, right? Not Malanga is a tropical product, that's what it's called. You either bring a Malanga, you bring fratig green bananas, you bring, you even bring, I brought frozen tamarin, I bring frozen mango, frozen, frozen products, okay, within the... Within the frozen products on the knee, you bring all the cocaine. Okay.

Right. So that's, and those products are a big export from Venezuela. So it makes sense that you have a corporation out of it. Right. Okay. Got it. Never, never mention it that you have to take on the account that before you start bringing stuff, you spend a lot of money bringing really real product,

Which, I mean, you always bring real product, but you don't bring cocaine. No. Before you even fucking put the first cocaine kilo in there, you already brought 12 fucking containers. Because you want to have a record. Custom want to see. Yeah.

And when you first, when you open up a corporation at the beginning, well, first of all, they charge you. Every time the, the, the, the, the fat, going to search your container, they let you know. There's no joke. They told you, Mr. Isaac, we're going to search your container today. And we're going to charge you, I think it's $2,500 back then, $2,500.

And they go and check your shit, and it's a game to them. They search thousands of containers. But it's like a lottery. They go, oh, today we're going for Isaac. Right, right. They're not searching my container every day. No, they can't. Exactly.

But they say, today we're going for Isaac. Right. It's $2,500, Isaac. Here, pay me and I'll search. That's how they do it. Right. So now you're and how many kilos are in an average? If it's $1,200 boxes, usually a container contains 1,200 or $1,800 boxes.

That's like, okay, out of that, 800 boxes contain cocaine. Okay. On the bottom, two kilos a piece. Okay. So 1,600 keys. So you got about a ton and a half. Yeah, but sometimes you send three containers

in a day. Oh, shit. Okay, now that's four tons of cocaine. Listen, cocaine business is big. It's still big. It's big. So if you, and you would move that much in a day sometimes?

Not a day, no, no. Now, we're talking now in the 90s. Now, I don't sell, like before, I don't sell in the store, grocery store. I don't have a grocery store anymore. I'm not in the business, in the street business anymore. Now I'm selling two major distributors. No, I know. I'm saying, would you send three shipments a day with cocaine in it sometimes?

It all depends. It all depends the deal I get. And all depends who I'm dealing with. and how does it look? What was your price? How much were you paying per kilo? $5,000. Another $3,000 for the traveling,

and I said it three times. 21. More of that, depends. Wow. And is this all going to the Colombians people, the Colombians distributors? No, no, no. Who's it going to?

No, because I already pay for my, cocaine already pay $5,000 a kilo. Oh, so you own this? They probably fucking paying only $1,000. So, but I'm talking about when it gets to America, you own all that cocaine? Yes. Okay. Wow.

We've never heard that on this podcast. We've talked to guys like you who work for the Mexicans or the Colombians in logistics, but they're not responsible. Usually guys like you, just send it to whoever the cartel wants. them wants you to send it to, right? But you actually owned 4,000 bricks. Yes, and that's how most big shots, big, kimpings in the cocaine business do.

They don't like to talk about it. I don't care because I already did my time, I pay my debt. I don't care about talking about that anymore. That's one thing I learned. You do your time, then that's it. Yeah. Come on my podcast. Most of the people, they scared to talk about it because they don't know about the law and they scare.

They're so fucking scared. I'm not scared. So tell us about now when it makes it to America, where does it port? Where do these ships get unloaded? They get a loader on either Hont Point Market. And back then, Bronsteminal Market and then in New Jersey. and I had a I had a guy

Jewish guy old guy, very old guy shit I forgot his last name but I like this old guy so much I don't have to move a finger he does it everything for me he didn't even see what happened he don't even know what's going on

he just called me and say Isaac your your container is in the is in the port and I'm ready to get it out tomorrow morning by 4.30 3 a.m. in the morning, 5 o'clock, be ready,

in Hudson, wait for it. And this is after they've gone through inspection? This is what happened. It's called custom, it's called custom administrators. They work for a private company. They do the whole thing for you. It's like an agent's.

You don't have to move a finger. You give them the information, you hire them and they do everything for you. Okay? When the thing is already outside the country in the sea, it's not even in the country.

It's right. It's out. But they know the container is in that boat. They already know that. So they start doing the paperwork. So whether the feds I'm going to check it or now, they already know. So he lets me know ahead of time.

Right, right. And then when they, The shit is ready to, it's already been inspected and ready to be sent to Hots Point. Yes, he'll let me talk to. Adam, Isaac, in this case, you know, your shipment is going to be at your place at 5.36 o'clock in the morning. That's the time they usually do this shit. All right.

You know I'm not going to be there. I'm going to have a couple of my guys waiting because I know the feds. I know how to work. Now, real quick, is it the union? Is it Longshoremen that are actually unloading the boxes filled with this? This is no union between that. No, no. That's just...

It's just the dock workers. This is business guys. This is a corporation. You have a warehouse, paperwork and corporations, and all these fucking paperwork and all this shit is already being worked. Oh, I see. So there's companies who just handle the receiving and logistics for, for shipping companies like yours. Exactly.

Okay, that makes sense now. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah. There's a couple of people out there that are gonna get some ideas from this. Yeah. Okay, so you don't have to handle any of it. No.

They deliver it to wherever you say. It's straight to the warehouse. Okay. And then there's gotta be employees that work for you, they're waiting for the truck driver to bring the container. But usually when there's drugs in those containers, the FETs, they know how to work their way around.

They do surveillance, you know, they send investigators behind you. They know that they already got the drugs. They just want to get whoever received the drugs at the warehouse. Right. Now, did the shipping company, this old Jewish guy, did he ever know what was in those containers? Listen, there's a difference between shipping company and the Jewish guy that, that shipping company is Sealand. Sealand is just a shipping

company that grabs your stuff. Or you can't have 100 boxes or platanos. Put them in the ship in a container, send it. They don't give a shit what's in there. That's up to custom in Venezuela. Up to custom in Venezuela. If they let

1,200 kilos go through, it's not the shipping company responsibilities. Shipping company is just sea land. They're going to put it in the boat and bring it over. Right. Once it gets to New York,

now it's a responsibility to your shipping agent. That's why you could call it. Shipping agent, which is the guy that works for me. The shipping agents will go and says to the custom,

oh, I got a container from IC Corporation that's bringing in platonels in this quantity several times a month and it's going to come this Thursday is going to be a container with 900 bags. And the shipping agent, your shipping agent,

knew what was going on. No. Even better. No, he didn't know. Why does he need to know? Because he doesn't need to know. He's an old guy. He's a nice guy.

And why would he needs to know? So. I'm a, listen, I'm a very legit company. Nobody knows. Technically, you're so not legit. It is. It's not even funny. But it's legit.

Of course, it's legit, but it's illegit. So it gets unloaded. Perfect. We understand that. How many warehouses do you have? At this time, two warehouses. Okay. One of the Bronx?

No. In Hots Point, both of them. Okay. As a matter of fact, one of them belongs to the fucking mafia. Really? Yes. Oh, so you didn't even own these. You didn't even buy them outright.

No, because you, you, you know. Listen, when you go into Hutz Point or Bronx Terminal... This is what happened. Bronx Terminal Market was getting... They wanted to get rid of that. Cuomo back then wanted to get rid of that. And whoever was there is there because he has rights or whatever the fuck.

But it was there. But nobody else was going to get anything else. You know what I said? Right, right. Hodge Point is different. It was growing. They wanted to make it bigger because they want to get rid of it

because of the Yankee Stadium and all that nearby and all that bullshit. So Holt's point was better for me. Okay? To get bigger warehouses, cleaner, more neat,

more organized. And on top of that, a lot of fucking customers. Because most distributors in Huts points, they were distributing all through the Bronx, through my hand, to green bananas and everything, all the Cubans were there.

So when I, all this fucking containers that I get before, I was about to bring drugs in, I had to make, I had to get somebody back that I was investing. So what I used to do, I used to grab, let's say, 900 boxes of green banana. $22 a box I give it to you for 15 done but just take it

get rid of it right so they grab the whole container give it to me Adam I give it to them yeah and not only that you have time to pay me you're not to pay me now pay me whatever yeah but just fucking pay me so they take the fucking hope I don't lose all that money right

how much money did it cost to start this whole thing up to make your first runs $200, $250,000. Yeah. Sounds about right. Yeah. And when you had the operation going fully,

were you still selling the bananas and the fruit to your distributors? Yeah. Now tell us about the people working in the warehouses, unloading the kilos. You don't need, because you don't need people constantly in your warehouse. Right. You need people that work, it's two times a week or whatever. And, you know, most of them, Boricua guys, you know, hardworking guys.

And they come and, you know, you paid him for the day. You pay him good. Mm-hmm. And they go. They own load everything. Yeah. They, and then they go home. Then you call the company, Sealand, come and pick up your container.

They come and pick it up again. Mm-hmm. And they take it. And then you close your warehouse. And that's it. And for the day and for the next two days. And that's the whole. what you do. And then how do you move your bricks? Do you keep them all sitting in the warehouse for

a few days? When you get kilos is the different story. That's what I'm asking, yeah. When you get the kilos, you get rid of them the same day. You get you, you get you unpack them, you pack them, and you get them out of there. Yeah. You want to get them out of it. Oh, you thought I was asking about the bananas? I don't get a fuck about the bananas. No offense. I'm happy for the bananas. I'm happy that got sold. Get rid of them. I want to know about the, co-ed them. I want to know about the cocaine. No, the cocaine. This isn't a fruit podcast. You got the cocaine bag it up and out of it.

You got to be out of it. So fast. So, but 1600, 1600 kilos, that's not a lot. That's not a lot, I guess, right? He used a big van. No, you don't do it in a van. Columbia's like, do van. I don't like do van. No. No.

What do you do? You, different cars. Different cars. Send me different cars. That's the way do. And who are your workers picking it up, moving the stuff? Someone they didn't even know. Some of them most of them know. But you get them to the Bronx, to man, to Brooklyn. But the fucking customers are already waiting for them. They're already waiting. Right. Right. And you're nowhere near any of this. What do you mean? Like you're not, you're not getting anywhere near the kilos or the customers.

Sometimes, sometime not. Okay. Sometimes. time it needs my attention. Sometimes it needs my presence for a lot of reasons. When something was fishy, yeah, I was right there. But most of the time I was not there. And are you paying for your cocaine up front? Of course. You have to pay for the cocaine. But up front, I mean, that's, the Colombians must have been loving you. You have to, it's not only me. It's the business work that way. You can't, when you load a fucking container with cocaine, it's your cocaine. But I've- You lose it, you lose it.

But I just heard, because I've talked to a lot of people on this podcast, I've just heard of Mexicans and Colombians being notorious for fronting out a lot of it. Like, here's the work and you bring the money back when it's all sold. But that was me in the 80s. But in the 90s, when I'm an investor, it's a difference. When you're an investor and you invest money in cocaine, I'm doing what they're doing in Mexico. They upload, trade, uh, containers with cocaine. They let it out, they send it if he lost, it lost. Right. They lost the money. Right. I lost a lot of money like that. Right. But that's also why you name. I got a lot of money, but I lost a lot of money like that. Right. And a lot of

people got locked up and some people got killed. Okay. I think Puerto Rico, I sent some work to Puerto And when he arrived to the beach, they kill my guys. Yeah, they killed my guys there. Wow. So you had cocaine on speedboats? Yeah. Where was it coming from Columbia or from here? From here. Can you tell us that story?

No, I have work here. They gave me a lot of work here. How much? Remember, this is sound bites, Adam. This is how we're going to sell your story. Don't, this is an incredible sound like that. Well, but there's no big deal about that. But they did it all the time.

This, I, you know, back in late 90s, you know, they call me up in New York. They say, Adam, you know, we got this situation and we got some work that's supposed to be sent it to you. And now we're stuck here. And so I called one of my cousins. And one of my cousins, I'm not going to say his name. I can't. But, and then I say, okay, cousin, take care of this for me. Say, okay.

And I say, don't worry me. I got the guys that's going to bring the stuff to Puerto Rico and then, you know, so he did the whole channeling thing, put him on the boat, send it 500 kilos. Okay. When he got to Puerto Rico to the island, they killed three of my guys. They kill him. They shot him and killed him and took the stuff. Wow.

That must happen all the time, especially on the islands. Yeah. And they kill them and we found out who did it. We got revenge with some of them, but we didn't even really know where it came from, how do they find out, and anything. That's what I really wanted to find out. Okay.

How did it happen? How did the fuck they knew that she was coming there? How did they wait for my guys to arrive there? Somebody on the inside had to be. I don't know, man, but it shit happened, man. And in this business, that's the way it is. But you don't have no time to think. Right, right.

You don't have no time to think. You can't think, you know, like, oh, wait, we're going to investigate, like the FBI. Got no time to investigate. Yeah. fucking find out ever. In the late 90s, very late 90s, right before I got arrested the second time,

I made a trip to Puerto Rico to receive 500 kilos, but I never received it. And it was because it was a setup to kill me. They were going to kill me. But there was a musician guy

who was involved in the whole fucking operation, and he's so famous that someone likes him so much that told them, listen, told Adam, stay away. Wow. Wow. Okay, so you're in New York. You've just unloaded 3,000 kilos. They just came in, two containers.

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at participating locations, terms and conditions apply. Um, it's not like that. It's not like that. You split these kilos, you just, Because it's not only that you're receiving those kiddles, you've got to test these skills. Okay? Out of 20, you take one, test it, positive, good.

Because sometimes they fuck you. Right. And that's the way it is. And you test it, you check, and they go on, go on. Because I receive stuff sometimes, and I send it through and give it to my customers, and then they call me, Adam, this is garbage.

send me that load. So they send me the load back. I check and I know exactly where that load came from. And I know what happened right away. And then I'll do my investigation and then I take it from there. Do you tell the Colombians, hey, I want my money back. I want some new shit. Because they did it.

They don't only do it in Colombia. They do it everywhere. They even did it in Miami. Sometimes they send me 200 kilos from Miami. and more than half of it was fake and they did it at Miami they did the same sack cover everything

it looks identical, the same cover but inside they changed my fucking material okay my question was how many people does 4,000 kilos go to who are your customers sometimes it's not a lot of customers sometimes it depends

the demand at the time. The people need to understand that. Sometimes one guy won it all. Shit. Yeah. Sometimes one guy

wanted all. Adam, please, please, they beg me, please, please, give it to me. And I say, I promise this other guys. I got to give them something.

I can give it to you. I like you. I love you. And I wish I could get all my money together. Maybe I could get $2,000 dollars a piece less.

Right. But I don't want to do that. Right. Because then tomorrow you disappear, who's going to be my customer? Right. Think about it. Right. That's the way the business works.

Right. And I say, I can't do that, man. I can't do that. I give you $1,500. The less goes to the rest of the guys. Yeah. And that's the way it is. So you're tripling your money, basically, on per kilo.

Are your customers COD? Do they have to have cash up front? No, no. Okay, so you're giving it. I don't want cash money. I think different than Colombians like cash money, a lot of cash money. That's why they all fucking, at the end, get fucked up. I, myself, I think, this is the way I think.

I think there's never enough money for all the stuff. How can you get enough money for 5,000 kilos? How can you send all that money together? That doesn't make any sense. Even if you separate it, it's like it's a big risk. Yeah. Okay? It's better when you give it on consignment to a lot of all the different people.

Right. But you know who they are and they pay you good money, a lot more money. And sometimes some of them, they're going to fail you. But all the money you get it from the rest is going to... offset that law. Exactly. Yep. So you don't do that.

Right. And those people will end up fucking themselves because they just screwed over the connect and now you'll never deal with them again. Exactly. You can,

you can't, you got to split it. You got to split the coke. Mm-hmm. You know? And also less risk. Maybe you get an informant

in one of the people, one of your customers, but he's not going to get to the rest of them. But if you give someone 5,000 kilos, 3,000, a thousand, 500 kilos, whatever, and that guy's an informant, you're in fucking big trouble, man. The case is big. Mm, right. Right. So you'd rather give it out by the 100.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Even 20 kilos. Who cares? Who were these out of towners or these New Yorkers? Are these black guys, Dominicans? Dominicans, blacks, and even Colombians.

Look at that. You got above the Colombians, man. Yeah, in a way, yeah. Because my girlfriend, my last girl, Colombian girlfriend, that I have a kid with her, she used to give me heroin, a lot of heroin. But I don't like dealing with that shit. there's always trouble with that

and then she says Adam I have a friend in his Coke and who he is oh he's Colombia from Cali and he needs cocaine because his customers are Dominicans and he needs cocaine but he don't have what it takes

I say hey we gave me 70 he moved it like this I gave him 100 he moved it like this he was like I'd say where the fuck What's up with this guy?

Where did he come from? It happens that this kid was Colombian, but he grew up with Dominicans in the neighborhood. He knows all the kids, all the guys that move a lot of cocaine in Washington Heights. Wow. And he was moving a lot of cocaine like this. But he didn't have that connection, you know,

that Colombian connection. Right. So they wouldn't trust him. I think that's what it was. And that's what it's all about at that level, right? It gets back to why the Dominicans basically were blessed by the Colombians at the beginning of the drug trade as opposed to Puerto Ricans or Haitians or whoever, you know, it's because they trusted you. So you became like the cartel because you're fronting out all the work, you're controlling the price. It's just unbelievable.

Now, you talk about heroin. Why did you step into that game? Because this is very interesting. This was when Columbia was exporting a lot of heroin in the late 90s. Why did you get into that game? My girl. Yeah.

Because I was at the same point, I was not doing that good. I was in Miami waiting for cocaine, a lot of cocaine. And there was a problem. I don't know what the fuck it was, but there was a problem. And there was no way.

And I'm waiting and I'm waiting. I was spending a lot of money and I'm waiting and then that girl that I have, she says, Adam, I have a friend and he's bringing a lot of heroin and we need Dominican connection

to move the heroin. And I say, I'm not good at that field. I don't really like that. I don't like how people look in the street with that shit. I really don't. Cocaine makes you happy. Go clubbing, whatever.

I fucking headway and fuck shoe up, man. Yeah, Coke's never harmed anyone. No. Hell no. No. Happy all the time. All the time. Yeah.

Except for Ray Leod at the end of Goodfellas. Listen, man. Go to fucking, go to Studio 54, you know. So, and then she says, Adam, you know, help me. I want to make some money. She needed some money. I said, okay. So I got a hooker up.

with somebody and they started making a fucking fortune off of yeah hair on yeah they make it a fucking fortune and I say why not came in there yeah and so I started making money you guys are bringing it in through Colombian mules mules and then I and I came out with that with that idea I said fucking the fucking laptops laptops so I said why don't you let's make a test I did a test send a student from over there or whatever whoever and get the laptop

they you have first of all you have to when you go through custom they're going to they're going to tell you turn it on you're going to turn it on then turn it off

going to turn it off and then they're going to tell you don't turn it on again and go in getting the plane that's what they do back in the 90s right so I say

as long as you you can turn it on, you'll be alright. Yeah. Take all the hardware from the back, put everything, fucking fill it up with dope, and then make sure it turns on.

That's all. And so we got a technician over there doing that. Wow. And then we started bringing fucking heroin like crazy. And heroin's so expensive. Well, the heroin, the good thing about heroin, just you compress it. Right. You can make a kilo like,

almost like that. Yeah, everything. Just like Chinese heroin. Yeah. You bring two kilos easy, not in every fucking laptop. And those sell for a lot. Back then, I pay $86,000. That's what you paid?

Yeah. For one kilo. And did you sell that wholesale? No. You've got to break that day. A bowl and half a kilo. Wow. And what do you, do you cut it at all?

I mean, $40,000 a kilo. God. That's why people get into that business because you move all that was. But I didn't like it. I really didn't. Right. And then I end up leaving that shit alone.

And you know what was amazing about that? Then when I got caught the last time, when I got caught the last time, I got caught because of a fucking transfer, money transfer, not even because of the drugs. It was because the guy

owned me money and he caused me, I even forgot about it. the money. He calls me up and say, Adam, I got your money. I said, I don't want to forget it. He's like, no, I got it, man. Just give me a name and I send it you right now, you know. Okay, I gave me the Isaac name. That's how I got cut. Hmm. Well, once again with the money, just like your first case. Exactly.

Now, before we talk about how you fell, you eventually go from Venezuela. You're doing some stuff in Colombia with the heroin. You end up in Ecuador? Did you also open a company? Ecuador, Venezuela, and here, the Middle Republic. Okay. So you opened up companies? No, I didn't open a company.

They sent stuff to me from Dominican, from Venezuela. You don't open up a company. My company, my, my, my, my, not a company, corporation, there's a difference. Corporation in New York, registered in New York by the name I.C. Garcia. The company that sends me stuff from Ecuador is a different company, but they got their own companies and they send it to me. I buy stuff from them. That's like if you go to China, you go to Hong Kong right now and you buy other parts from a Hong Kong company.

That's not your company. They're just selling you a product. But they set it to a registered company under your name in the States. Whether it could be California, it could be Washington, it could be New York. It doesn't matter. But if you want to receive product in the Dominican Republic, do you have to set up your own corporation like you did in Venezuela? No. I registered a company.

I registered a corporation in New York State. It's called Icy Corporation. I registered. I pay my taxes. I got my stamp. I got everything it takes. I rented a warehouse. We have to have a legal address.

You have to have everything. And they gave you a score. An ID, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, without I, without I, without ID, that's how you bring stuff overseas. Okay. So you're just, when you say I was moving stuff in the Dominican, what does that even mean then? If you don't have any operation here, what do you mean by that? Because the people that you got in Dominican, they got their own corporation that you don't need them in New York. In New York, you need yourself.

You need custom in New York, custom in New York. Got it. So you just have, you just picking up. You pay your taxes in New York. You get your stuff from Dominican Republic. You get your stuff from Venezuela. You get stuff from Ecuador. You get your stuff.

You custom in New York. only gonna look into your files on your record in New York. They don't give a shit about Ecuador. Got it. Got it. Okay. So you just send your container down to these places to pick up. Got it. Tell us about the Dominican Republic. Where are the containers picking up product here? What part of the island? It's in the capital. Oh, because they have a big port down there. Yeah, the biggest port. The biggest port. Yeah. But it's not under my control it's not under my control

I can't control that no you know you call you say send me 900 boxes of platanos like I used to say send me the most 300 boxes of rum

because it waits too much it waits right right back then it was Marco Ricx this is Barcelona but it's called Marco Rinks back then. Long, huge battles like that.

Right. The cheapest one. That's why you pay cheap because you don't want to waste a lot of money in Iran. And in the rum, you got the cocaine. But also, the rum was not even legal. You got to buy custom. You got to buy custom?

You buy them here? Over there. Sirian. And you did that? Yes. Oh, my God. You paid them. So they could think the illegal shit is the run.

Right. But it's the cocaine, really. And the cocaine, obviously, it's liquefied. No, no, no. He's on the bottom also. Okay, okay, got it, got it. Wow, that's such a crazy Jedi mind trick. Like, hey.

But that's the way it was back then. It's rum, but why is it illegal? Just I want to get around the taxes, right? Is that what you're telling the customs in the U.S.? No. The legal payments, the legal, the taxes and everything, is paid way before the fucking merchandise gets in. So why is rum, why was that kind of rum illegal in the States?

It was illegal because it was not registered to be sold in the States legally. But it's not really illegal. Right. It's just unregistered. Exactly. So it's not a registered Adam D. as well. Here, boom, boom, boom. Here's your money. Stay away from me. Wow.

As a matter of fact, that's when one of the fucking agents told me one time. Stay away from me. Don't look at me. Don't talk to me. He was scared. He was scared. He looked at me and said, get away from me, don't talk to me. Don't, don't.

Okay. Did you have to pay him, though? A lot of money. But they don't, we don't, we don't, we don't talk to these people like that. We don't, we don't, they just going there quick. They go, they, it's like, he, he took me back when I was, uh, a, an electrician and they go and inspect the meter and they go and inspect an electrical job

and they don't want to talk to you. They just want to look and they want and get rid of you. Right. Because they know what they're doing is not right, but they know you did the right thing. They know you did you right. You did it good. Yeah. And then they're not going to get in trouble, but they don't want to have nothing to do with it.

Right. Right. So what would you have to pay a customs agent to let you pass unregistered rum? The most $5,000. It was not a lot of money. Because Ron was cheap, very cheap. It's not like, okay, like, like yellow bananas. That was one of the tricks I use.

You let the green banana running a little bit. And when it gets to custom, you told them, listen, this shit got already yellow. And I'm going to lost a lot of money. I'm gonna lose so much money, you got no idea. Please help me out. And you give the money, and they go, but it sticks a lot.

It's a big smell. They go, get the fuck out. Get out of here. There's a lot of fucking cocaine there. Wow. That's pretty brilliant. Now, do you send somebody to negotiate like that when you do want to go down and talk to the customs agents?

No, no, I talk to the customs agent. Most of the time. Okay. They don't know how to talk to the fucking agents. agents. Now, was there ever a time that your container got inspected with product in it? No. No. It did, it did to one of my partners in Miami, like three times, three times, yeah, three times. Like in a year and they got him. They got him convicted and everything. He fucked up because I told him

listen, get away, get away from the business, go, go, go. Never come back. They're on you. Yeah. And he won't fucking listen. Right. But you he used different names and everything and I say, listen man, they're on you. Get the fuck. You're going to

you're going to, you're going to there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be, you know, they're going to get because of you. Please stay away. where he wouldn't fucking listen. Hmm. But your product never got

popped. Wow. No. Never. Not once. Cheers, dude. I mean, I mean, it's amazing.

Honestly, never once. Never once. I mean, I don't even think on the street when you were hustling in Brooklyn. No, I never got caught like that. Never. Okay, I give you, I'll give you a lot of stories, but I'm going to give you,

I'm going to give you two stories. Okay, and you're gonna like it. Okay, there was one time when I was a beginner, right? I go with this Puerto Rican guy named Anthony, a good friend of mine, tough guy, young guy, and we're going in a four LTD, big white car, and I had a 45, I always had a 45. underneath my seat.

And I'm a short guy. I'm a short guy. And this is a big, big, huge vehicle. And I'm driving. We're going through the, we're going through the Queensborough Bridge on the 125th Street. And we're going to Brooklyn

because there's a problem there. We don't have any drugs or anything. We had a hot gun. and I had the gun right underneath me I always had a gun and we stopped and then we crossed the white line somehow and this big tall black guy

big huge guy those black cop guy pull over oh shit late afternoon New York said oh shit they pulled us over he says this is in registration

I said what do what do I do you cross the white line you shouldn't do, I said, I don't know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, I'm never fucking sorry. Give me your license registration. My license is fucking expired. I don't fucking give a shit about my license.

I don't get, never give you shit about my real name. Right. He finds out my license is expired. He says, Adam, I'm sorry, but you can't drive. And he gets in the car. Opens the door, gets in the car. He goes like this. He don't go like this.

He goes like this. I'm right there next to him. Because he told me to sit right next to him. Anthony is right in the back. And he goes, box the car. He says, I get back to you. You're going to have to get a driver to come and get your car. He gets out the car.

I go like this and I look at Anthony. I look down. The fucking 45 is right there. He missed it. Yes, it did. Then that's that, the point is that I say, Anthony, what are we going to do now? How about if they come now, they went and search the car, what are we going to do that? So then Anthony goes, he said, he got balls.

He said, I could grab him right now and throw it by the river. Because it's right there, the river. I say, no, you got cameras. No, no, just, he says, so right, just, Adam, just kick it with your feet. kick it down, kick it back. I said, all right, so I did that. Kick it back and fucking underneath my seat. And then he goes, he comes back and he goes, you have to take a taxi.

Here's the key. I'm going to give you a break. But don't drive it. Go send somebody to come and pick it up and take the car back. I say, all right, no problem. So let's call it taxi. Wow. That was one time.

Nice. Another time, I'm getting to, it's called in Queens. I was living in Queens. As a matter of fact, that's another story, when the plane crashed right near my pet fucking painthouse. The cab stopped me right before I get into my complex apartment, you know, very rich people live there, going there. and go in with my cousin

Johnny Diaz and I go in there and park my car all of a sudden these two fucking cops go right behind me block me fucking lights on

and say what the fuck and they go with the guns get out of the car so what the fuck what's going on they go get out the car say wow what the fuck

what I do I live here he goes I don't give a shit get out I say no I get out, put my hands on the car, they handcuffed me, and they put me in a police car.

Say, shit, what's going on in here? Listen, I have scales in the truck. I have an uzi. I have money, I have drugs, I have everything in there. I have a lot of shit in there.

I'm ready to do 20 years in state. Yeah. So I'm like, shit. He asks me for, he says, What's the name of the car owner? I forgot. And guess what? I remember now, Obedio Gonzalez.

Okay. He was one of my aunts' husbands. I put it under here's name. And he says, Adam, you know, how do you, you're driving this guy, you don't know the car's owner? How do you know if it's not stolen? I said, I forgot.

It's my uncle. I forgot. No, you got to tell me. And then they start searching the car everywhere. But then they go in the back and they try to open it. But there was a trick to the trunk. You got to push them down. Go with it can like this.

It's an old trick for that four in particular. For that LTD for in particular. They all suffer from that same fucking thing. When they get very old those cars, you got it pushing down and go, I guess that cop didn't know that. So he goes, and then I remember in the back of the police car and I opened up the window

and I say, officer, officer, you know, good thing I always respect cops, you know, I talk to them with respect. Say, officer, please, listen. He comes over and goes, what? I say, his name is Obidio Gonzalez. I'm sorry. I just remember.

And then he calls the other guy, all right, green light, don't worry about it. He's okay. You really have had. For the amount of poison and chaos that you've spread, not just in New York, but throughout the country, you really have had exceptional luck. For your career as a drug trafficker, most cats that did what you did are dead or doing all day. Well, most of my friends are dead. A lot of friends of mine are dead and my enemies.

Franklin is dead. Cook is dead. Fernando is dead A lot of guys The guy that snitched me out Is fucking dead And that's a beautiful story too How he got killed

Beautiful Tell by the guy that sent you out this on the second case No, the first case The one that got shot 27 times And then he got away with it Yeah, he got killed Later on Later on

One of my guys Find him later on. Found him. And remind him my name. So I got nothing to do with that. No, you don't know anything about that. I was like tough, man.

Right, right. Yeah, I mean, I can I got it. It's proof. You got an album. I can't get something in with him. I was like talk. Well, they have cell phones in there. No, no, no, no.

I had no contact with that guy. But yeah, he got killed. So what year did you catch your second case? Is it 2000 now? Or what year did you go down? It was 1999. 1999. I got a case in Philadelphia.

I was not in the Philadelphia, but I had a customer that I didn't know he was in Philadelphia. And he happens to be, he happens to have a spot in Philadelphia. And he was purchasing from me, heroin. And then he was not a good customer, but then I got back in the game, again with the cocaine, and I left that shit alone with the heroin. I don't want anything to do me the Halloween.

but the guy own me money and he sets me money over Western Union and that's how he got. How much was it? Nothing. Like fucking $8,500

like $8,500, nothing. Ushin money. That I don't really fucking need it. But it's not the money that I trust to him. Yeah, but okay, how is that? He was related to my first wife.

Yeah, but hold on. That's almost inconsequential to how you got so much time just for $8,500. Yeah. Just like I got time for $14,000. Right. Yeah, but that's how federal case work as I get you. But it's a long story. My first wife, my, not my first, my third wife, my girlfriend, Colombian girl that I have a kid with,

the one that I dealt with heroin, he gets cut. bringing her away from from Colombia. He gets cut. She gets cut. And then when she gets cut, I gave her a good lawyer and she got acquitted.

Because when they, when she got involved with this guy that brought the drugs, all she talks was about money. And the guy tried to get her involved and she was like money, money, money, money. And she happens to have a lady judge. And the lady judge felt sorry for her

and say, but she never talked about drugs. drugs. All she talks about about money, there's no law that could, you know, implicate her, you know, with drugs and money, her acquitted her. And she was out. They were mad about that. They were very upset the feds. They were upset the prosecutors. So they started an investigation, and that's odd they got me. Okay. So they were after you already. Yes. I got you. And when they got me, and the guy from Philly, they got the customer. And when they got the customer, they got me.

But listen, when they went and read at my place and they got me. But that's another funny story. They went to Yonkers. I was living in Yonkers. And they went to get me in Yonkers. And when they read at my place at 6 o'clock in the morning, I ran out of the back door, you know, almost naked. And all I remember was...

Probably fucking. Well, I was sleeping. And they... And all I remember was I heard on the radar, naked man running out of the back door. I was so funny. I couldn't fucking believe it. I didn't get better than that.

He goes, naked men running out of the back door. And I was running, yeah, I was running out of the back door. But they got me. And then... But I was... Man. Because I thought it was something... something bigger, like way bigger, way, way, way, way bigger.

You thought they had a whole years-long... Yeah, tons of cocaine. I say, shit. Right. And then when they take me to Pennsylvania, and then they... And then they... They filed the charges against me. I say, 100 grams of heroin. Say, what?

I was laughing. I was laughing. I said, what? I told my lawyer, what it's talking about? I never sold 100 grams of heroin to anybody. Says Adam, you made a transaction through Western Union, so they figured out how much is that in heroin. I said, this motherfuckers.

These fucking assholes. Right. Right. They just assumed. That's what they do. Exactly. All they do is like they take some fake math. And they do an equation and say, okay, you owe us this many years.

Yes. All right, so you ended up taking a pleadial? Yes. Smart. Again, they fucked me up again because they had informants. And then the guy that I was selling heroin to, he said, oh, he saw me several kills of heroin, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And his wife and everybody, oh, fuck.

And that's so funny because he asked me for cocaine way back, right? and he asked me for 10 kilos and I said, I'm going to, okay, I'll give it to you. But it's not recorded of anything like that. It's not on record. And so he told that to the prosecutor. They end up charging me with that. Just for promising,

giving him 10 kilos of cocaine. I said, I couldn't fucking give you 100 kilos, man, but you didn't give me time. You didn't give me the time to trust you. He was upset for some reason and he turned me in. Wow. Yes. So what was your plea deal?

What did you agree to? It was just for that. Again. What was the sentence? It was 11 years and three months. Hmm. Did your... Because it's a second offender.

Right. Yeah, I was just going to say that. And it's a federal, your second federal offense, so your points are way out. And you know what's funny? That on my second sentencing, they... Even at that point, my judge was good with me. because he tried to help me, but he couldn't. They tried to give me like three times that sentence.

And the prosecutor goes, this is his fucking second conviction, drug conviction. So I raised my hand, I say, not your honor. And then my attorney goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's going on I? Say, I never plead out to, you know, to drug conviction, to, I never admitted to

be in possession of drugs or sell drugs or a position of fire weapon. No, what are you talking about? And then the judge goes, Buh, boom, boom, boom, it goes. Exactly. What was it? What was it?

And then the prosecutor goes, yeah, you know, that's when the prosecutor back in the age, no, no, no, no, no. He pleaded out to laundry money. He doesn't have a, a drug conviction. He doesn't have a weapon condition. So what is, what the fuck you're talking about?

You say, so, and then I like that about the judge, the judge goes, take that off the record. Never mention again. You can never mention that he was convicted of a drug possession or drug conspiracy back in the 80s. He was never, he pleaded out to laundry money. Yeah.

And the government agreed with it. So what are you bringing that up? Yeah. I wish more judges would stand up to prosecute. He stands up and I like that. Yeah. But I was lucky for both judges on both cases anyway. So your sentence was 11? 11 years and three months.

Wow. And you did 85% of that? 85 more because I had a couple of fights. Ah. This guy likes to make, we know that. You're not going to believe it. You're not going to believe it. Well, maybe we'll talk more about that tomorrow. You got out in what year?

Got out in what year? 2011. Okay. So, and then you were deported? 2011. You got, and you were deported right back here? Yes. Okay.

So, and what is that status now? You're never allowed to come back? Yes, I do. I'm supposed to be a United States citizen because my mother became a United States citizen before I became an adult. But I decided not to fight the case because I was a United States citizen because I was a United States citizen because I was a United States citizen before I was. the case because I don't, they want me to spend three years incarcerated to find my case. And all of that because when I, when I, when they arrested me the second time, they gave me bail, right? And I jumped bail. And I promised the government, this is what happened.

I promised the government to cooperate. Oh, okay, I'll cooperate, which you don't wait. You just say that to the whole, fuck. You'll kick you loose. I was out of here. Where'd you go? And I jumped. Where'd you jump? I fucked up. I stood in New York.

No, Adam, look, you got property. I did. No, no, I didn't want to come to the money again. I wanted to go to Columbia. Yeah. But I didn't. And, no, it really happens because right after I jump out,

9-11 happens. Uh-huh. How can I get out of the country? Yeah. As a matter of fact, I went to Switzerland. I went to Swedish. And I wanted to go back and stay there.

because I like Swiss. Yeah. But I couldn't because of the 9-11. How can I get on a plane after that? Hmm. Yeah, and you didn't have your fake passports? You didn't have... I did, but I couldn't.

They first knew about the fucking fake passport. They already knew about it. They had all the names and everything, right. They had everything. They had all information. How can I go back? I couldn't get on a plane point. Yeah, yeah.

That's when you've... It's called hiring a Mexican. Did you have to drive? The wet. Yeah, that's right. Los Mohadoes, yeah. To take you the other way. Most people are coming.

Dominicans, we call it the Jolla. La Jolla? La Jolla. That's funny. La Jolla is the boat. From Puerto Rico to Dominican. So is that what people do, the refugee, or people that are trying to make it to the States,

they go on the line. In La Jolla. From here to. To Dominican. To Puerto Rico. From Dominican to Puerto Rico. Right. La Jola.

Wow. That's wild. You're gonna have to take us to Puerto Rico. We want to fill in Puerto Rico. There's a lot of fucking crazy shit that happens on that. Well, there was, there was, not anymore. It's called, shit, I forgot the name too. But there's a big boat that goes from Puerto Rico to Dominican back and forth.

And it's amazing how you go from the Atlantic to the Caribbean Ocean. And you can see that the color of the water, how it changed. Yeah. It's deep, dark water, and it's clear water. Amazing. You wouldn't believe how amazing that is. It gives to the shoes. Are you happy?

Well, how do you feel now? All these years later, you've got businesses down here. You've made your life here. You got some kids down here. You've got some kids here, there. I'm still making kids. It's a factory. Man, you are a New Yorker, but you're a Dominican New Yorker.

I love kids. Yeah. And kids, I love kids young. I like daughters. I love my daughters. They give me so much love. It's crazy. Well, thank you so much for your time.

Really, really appreciate it. Thank you, Adam. My pleasure. All right, you guys. We'll see you on the flip side. Adam Diaz. Peace out.