The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - Drug Lord On Running Heroin Empire In Federal Prison, Stabbing CHOMOS, Beating Life Sentence

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Former drug kingpin George Day was sentenced to one of the harshest punishments imaginable: life in federal prison plus 90 years. What followed was nearly two decades inside some of the toughest federal prisons in America — fighting appeals, navigating prison politics, and trying to survive a sentence that was supposed to mean he would die behind bars. In this episode, George tells the unbelievable story of his time inside the federal system after being convicted in a controversial case built largely on witness testimony rather than physical evidence. Despite multiple trials and legal battles, he was ultimately convicted and given a life sentence plus additional decades, sending him deep into the federal prison system. Behind bars, George faced the brutal reality of a life sentence — violent prison yards, powerful inmates, and the mental weight of knowing he might never see freedom again. At one point he describes himself as a “dead man walking,” preparing for the possibility that prison would be where his life ended. But George refused to give up. While incarcerated, he continued fighting his case, studying the law, filing appeals, and working through the courts for years. Against overwhelming odds, his persistence eventually paid off. After nearly two decades in prison, his case was revisited and he ultimately received clemency in 2021 under the First Step Act, allowing him to finally walk free. In this interview, George shares: • What it’s like to receive life plus 90 years in federal court • The psychological toll of serving a life sentence • The dangerous reality of federal prison yards • How inmates survive when they know they may never get out • Fighting appeals from behind bars for nearly two decades • The legal battle that eventually led to his release • The moment he learned he was finally going home This is the story of a man who went from facing life behind bars to walking out of prison nearly 20 years later. A raw, firsthand look at the federal prison system, long sentences, and the fight for freedom. If you missed Part 1 you can watch it here: https://youtu.be/3BcefonEOzs Join The Patreon For Bonus Content! https://www.patreon.com/theconnectshow 00:00 Opening, Recap & George's Prison Time 03:00 George Day's Drug Empire & DC Operations 08:00 Retirement, Passing on the Connect, and Betrayals 21:00 Under Surveillance: Arrests, Planted Evidence & The Indictment 37:00 Indictment Details, Federal Charges & Courtroom Battles 46:00 Being Tried Multiple Times—Hung Juries and Sentencing 56:00 Adapting to Life in Federal Prison 01:00:00 Prison Hustles: Bringing in Contraband & The Heroin Game 01:13:00 Chaos, Friends & Enemies on the Yard 01:23:00 Legal Battles: Studying Law & Fighting the Case 01:35:00 Cracking the Case: Bank Statements & Exculpatory Evidence 01:48:00 Landmark Motions, Sentence Vacated & Road to Release 02:06:00 Winning Clemency: Resentencing & Final Freedom 02:18:00 Returning to Society, Legacy & Helping Others 02:22:00 George's Lawsuit, Lessons & Shoutouts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm just telling you. If you ain't doing nothing for the homies, you know, who are you? You're taking a gram of dope and making $3,500 in there. One gram. And this is tar. Now, if you got some good powder, you're probably going to make $5,000 every gram. And we was, you know, dudes was bringing 30 grams in at a time. The first seven years I was messing up.

I was pushing the knife. I was doing stuff. I thought I was dead. My whole mind, I was going in there, stab the water. and something I'm just going to let him make him kill me. George Day is a former drug kingpin who ran a multi-decade cocaine empire that trafficked tons of Colombian cocaine from the Bahamas into Washington, D.C. In 2003, after he'd already retired from the drug game, George was indicted by the feds,

was tried and found guilty on flimsy evidence, and sentenced to life in prison plus 90 years. What follows are some of the craziest stories from federal prison that I've ever heard. George was running a multi-million dollar heroin operation and extorting Chomos, all while fighting his appeal from behind bars. He eventually cleaned himself up, won his appeal, and then in 2021 was granted clemency and released from prison under the newly minted First Step Act. This is a roller coaster journey of a dead man walking who fought the system and against all odds won his freedom. It's incredible. And if you miss part one of George's story, where he talks about how he came up in the game and, built his transnational drug empire.

I'll put a link to that episode in the description below. All right, everyone, without further ado, part two of the saga of a drug lord legend. It's George Day, right here on The Connect with Johnny Mitchell. All right, it's George Day, part two. Let's get it. Before we get going real quick, if you haven't subscribed to the channel yet,

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So we finished off the last episode talking about you retiring from the game, which is so rare. Almost never happens. It just goes to show your kind of genius. Lifetime. You know, in a career spanning from 11 to I think you were about 28 when you got out of the game, how many kilos do you think you moved? Honestly, that I handled. It was a lot, man, because.

like I told you, I only took credit for the ones that were mine, five and six hundred here. I started the first few years, 100, you know, say maybe one or two, a hundred a year, so 24. But when it switched to five, you got to remember, it was always no less than 2,600 bricks of something on that plane. That's what they filled it with. Tens of thousands.

If you do it, yeah, probably about 100. Maybe, not me make the money off it, but I've got money off about 100,000,000 keys. a Coke easy, at least $1,000. Wow. You know. 100,000 kilos. I mean, look, you can get life, you know, if you got enough of a sheet and they want you bad enough.

I mean, you can get life for them finding no cocaine. No cocaine. That's what they did. And you got life for a dry case, essentially. But that is, that makes you, in my estimation, one of the biggest drug kingpins, perhaps the biggest drug kingpin, perhaps the biggest drug kingpin, Washington, D.C. has ever seen. Yeah. And I say that with all respect to Rayful.

And, you know, I really loved. the guy and... Yeah, they just was known. They wanted to be known, and I didn't like that. I was more on the cautious. I aired on the side of caution. Well, you moved, you were the freight. You moved wholesale. So you're really never going to know those guys.

No. Didn't want to. So 2002 is when things are really getting hot in the Bahamas. There's a gang war between a guy who basically was your handler, your connect. His name was 90 and some other Bamanian cat. It's getting harder to move money. It's 9-11. The security's ramping up at the airports.

You own a bunch of real estate everywhere. You got cash put away. And so you just stepped away. Did you give that your distributors, your closest friends who were moving the work for you, did you give them the connect and did they go on? No. And see, that's where things got tricky. Nobody, they act like they didn't. The only one that really wanted it was Squirrel.

and I wouldn't give it to him because I knew that if something, okay, just say if something was that happened to him, they was coming to get me because he was the closest. He knows everything. And not to say that he would tell, but even if he didn't, the people around him that came up to shop with him, if the government started questioning, you know, like they did, they were going to find out.

So we were all supposed to be retiring. He should have had more money than me. Trust me, he had money. And for people that didn't see the first episode with you, he was your main number one guy who would take 50, 100 kilos from you, and then he could basically make 50% more. Yeah, every month. He was whipping the cocaine to where he could make 100 kilos, 150.

He killed it, yeah. So he's the one that taught me how to whip and things like that. How many distributors did you think he was giving Coke to? Because he had guys coming from all over the eastern seaboard. fact, he knew, he said I knew a lot of guys, but by the end, yeah, I did, but he, he knew well over 100 guys, man. He dealt with, dude, it was a guy that used to box, a boxer. I don't care about people knowing his name, but his name was Joe Jackson, Joseph Jackson.

I sent a paperwork. He was setting up another one of the squirrel's people, and he was buying a half a break of crack, right? So Squirrel had already gave the guy, the half a brick of crack. But the rat, the boxer, Joe Jackson, he told the guy that Squirrel was going, that gave the half the, they had the brick of Coke to. He told him that he needed another 62. I told him it didn't make sense. Because if you got a half a brick of Coke, you're talking about 18 ounces of cocaine.

he's asking for a 62. That's two ounces and a quarter. Why would it matter with a half a brick? So when Squirrel went to go to suburban seafood on Silver Hill Road to deliver the 62 grams, as he was pulling up, he's talking to the guy that he's coming to meet. Not Joe Jackson.

Joe Jackson is in a police car setting that guy up. The guy that Squirrel was meeting, he owned a clothing store. You know, it was a label called K-O. Sports. Please put this in there because he ended up being a rat. So put it in there. K-O. Sports. And I never forget, he had gave Squirrel a T-shirt.

Squirrel had put the 62 grams in the T-shirt and threw it on the floor by the break. He was driving to Ultima. And, you know, the break on there, you push it down with your left foot. So the 62 was under the T-shirt, but it came out. When he pulled up, he was speaking to the guy that he was going to meet that owns K-O. Sports. Joe Jackson told the police, that's him, that's him. They jump out the car.

They run down on the guy with the KO Sports. They had the half a brick of cracking the car. They got the half a brick. As Squirrel sees it, he goes to back up. I seen the video. Dude, they shot the car with something. It wasn't a gun. They shot, they got these things they shoot your car with,

and it kills the engine, man. The car just, it stuttered and went out. And the police, this is where they messed up at. We should have paid attention, dude. they ran down on the car, yanked the car door open. You know, that's a mistake. He has nothing to do with this. They don't, they snitch the Joe Jackson dude, the boxer don't know him.

He's setting up K.O. Sports. So when they run down on his car, they see that the police look, the 62. It's about this big, dude, rocks. 62 grams. The cop reached in the con, got it. We got some, we got one. They bulked him into that. So he ended up beating that, of course, because he was illegal research and season.

Right. What year was that? That was 2000. 2001, 2001, no, 2002. Okay, so I don't want to get mired down. First of all, it's crazy that squirrels... It's crazy if he's dealing 150 kilos, why he's even selling a half a brick.

You should not know anybody at the... Nobody should know you. He used to say, don't leave no money on the floor, man. That's what he used to say. And for a long time, you're going to be mad at me, dude. But when I first started... Trust me, when I first started, I was still until about 90, see, that's when I handed all of my crap customers.

I'm talking about the people who literally smoked it, dude. So you had, so you were bringing in a hundred bricks and selling crack. Well, what's wild is that for just a quick review of last episode, you told yourself in, when you were 16 years old that you were going to do one deal for 50 keys that were coming over from the Bahamas and then you were going to get out. And next thing you know, you're paying off customs agents to bring through a thousand bricks at a time. So you did not stick to your word very closely. They don't, it's not even, I can't even say they don't let you because I was too young to be scared of them.

But when you see it, you know how it is, dude. You did the same thing. If you, okay, now, let's say this. I wish. Okay, if you were to hit, say the first time you knew you had 100,000. Yeah. Anything you could have did, anybody with a million dollars. you can do the same thing with $100,000.

You just can't do it as big, but you can get the credit that they got. A hundred thousand gets you ten times that in the bank. You can get a million dollar loan if you got a hundred in the bank. So at this time, but I'm saying, once you saw the money, man, if it's so easy, then they'd be like, man, we send it some more.

After a while, it was every money was coming. Right. But the fact that I didn't have to do nothing, you know. I get it. I get it. So tell us, tell us when, well, we'll just move up to when you got rated. Okay.

Because you're out of the game. Like you're fucking done. Yeah, I'm done. You're done and your crew's supposed to be done. When did you, yeah, when did you first get arrested? Okay. I went down. And you've never taken a pinch at all for anything, not even a juvenile charge?

When I was a child, yeah, when I was younger, now this is the thing. When I was younger, I caught two drug charges. Now, this is the thing. When I caught the first one, I was too young. They couldn't do nothing about that one, but they caught me. It was more money than drugs. I was 14. I was driving.

a Z, a Duce Duce, like I had an 81, uh, two plus two, you know, the old Z black with the red interior. And the police, I ran them. They got on me. I had a machine gun on me. I was actually about to go do something stupid. I'm glad they got on me. They used to always see me.

They, I was sweet for money. The police, the dirty cops used to take money. We had police called a dirty dozen. Every time they saw me, they would just take my money. So anyway. That was common in D.C. Right. So I threw my gun.

I pull over. You know, I get, I get. They catch me with, at that time, I think I had about, I think I had 80,000, like, under my seat, like stuffed under the paper bag. And then two paper bags, I had like 30 and 1 and 50 in another one. It was all 100. So I had just came from Sand Squirrel, and he gave me some short shit. He owed me. That's what we call short shit.

So he gave me that. And, you know, they took the money, you know, and I got locked up. And then they took my car. And what I didn't know is that my brother earlier that day, he, you know, he used to always take my car, drive my car, whatever. He had his whole, like his school book bag was in the back, but he had the, that was sitting on the seat. But, like, beside the seat with a seatbelt at, it was a paper bag, and he ended up looking for that later. It had 42, dude, this was so crazy. 42 individually wrapped baggies of crack cocaine.

I thought they planted the shit. Until I saw the bags, you know, when you see your shit, I'm like, damn. Like, you know, then my brother was like, man, my bag, you know, I ate that. You see what I'm saying? You took that and the machine gun? Yeah, I know. I threw the machine gun. I got the gun off me.

They didn't know. They thought they, I used to just run them, but I guess they thought I was trying. They didn't even look for the gun. I threw the gun. I got a way out of their sight. I just didn't want the gun on me. Right, right. You know, because they was going to try to smoke me for that.

So at the time, because I had just caught, you know, some shootings and stuff. Right. But then another time my wife was with me, and it was this gambling house over on Bock Road in Fort Washington, a bunch of white guys. The white guy named Jackie. You know he did now. Jackie was like 60 dead.

So I know I could talk about that. I don't care. But Jackie, he used to throw poker games. And, dude, I met some of the best people. These motherfuckers, cocaine and crack. And I think they used to mess with pills, the lardas and stuff like that. but I couldn't get those.

In excess, I get them. But they had poker games 24 hours. Judges used to be, and I can't say his name. I was about to say it. Oh, God, thank God. He's a good judge. Judge Mathis. Joe Mathis.

You know, that guy's smoked some crack in his day. You better believe it. But one of my judges used to be in there playing poker dude in this illegal poker game. Wow. I can't say that he used to treat his nose, but I swear to God, anytime he saw me, everybody knows him, and I'm going to say this just for you,

and they're going to tell you, They're going to be hitting you, saying he used to, he was a funny judge, but he used to do this when he sentenced you. He would bounce the ball. And if you was dumb enough to sit there and let it keep bouncing, how many times that ball bounced? That's how many years he gave you. And he might suspend some of them,

but sometimes if he was a jerk, you're getting all of it. So while he fell in love with me, I became his project. He wrote a letter for me on his case. He bounced the ball on me. As soon as he bounced it. I knocked the tape. I knocked the chair. I went and grabbed.

That ball went up in the air. I dove. I mean, you would think it was safe. I caught the ball. everybody in the courtroom, the bailiff and everybody jumped up. Is it a federal judge? No, this was a state judge. This was my, you asked me if I had any other charges.

Right. At these charges, this is what I was going to get to. These charges, when I caught that ball, it stopped me from getting the threshold sentence that they would have took to run my federal sentence. Memorial Day weekend is almost here, and it's time to kick off summer right. When I'm getting ready for the first big weekend of summer, total wine and more is my go-to, especially when I'm firing up the grill with family. grab refreshing beers, easy

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sold in Virginia and North Carolina. Drink responsibly, must be 21. Okay. So you never did any time for those early no, early charges. Six months on the other one with the 42 wrap. And I got less than a year for that because I caught the ball. So as he threw the ball, I jumped up and caught.

If it would have bounced like five or six times? What are we in fucking Bolivia? Man, what is this? Watch, everybody going to hit you with the judge's name if they bent through Upper Marlboro Court. This is insane. And the corruption just keeps going. Okay, but you really essentially had no,

it certainly had no federal record. No federal record. Nothing that they could use to, you know. So what year did the indictment come down and what year did you get arrested? Okay. O2. Remember the thing happened at Suburban Seafood with Durham?

Right. That happened. Boom. O.3, the police shows up at my house in Orlando. Now, I haven't been back now. I haven't been back to D.C. dude. And maybe over a year. I'm not even talking to Dern right now.

Yeah. I mean, I'm squirrel. And you're just managing your real estate. You're kind of retired. Yeah, I'm kind of retiring now, man. So I'm managing my real estate, and I'm trying to buy this. I'm going to say trying out. I'm buying a shopping center that had a,

public's warehouse that's storing it. But the public shut down because they was moving to a bigger building across the street by my job, by Legacy Lincoln and Mercury. I stopped working there, too, because I'm retired now. So I'm buying this shopping center and flea markets are big in Florida.

So what they don't have in Orlando was an indoor flea market at the time. So I'm going to take the public's and why we got it to build building out, I'm fixing up all of the other things. I'm doing this with my drug money. You're saying the money that I got coming I'm fixing it up. You know, so I didn't work,

I don't figure out a $12,000 a day scheme with this, into a flea market. You take all of the shelves out, the public's, everything's gone. I got all that shit through the way. And I set up booths. Yeah. I set up 300 of them.

And the median price per day to rent these tables and booths was $30. You see what I'm saying? Right. $30, $40. And they would rent out all day. They would come in. I even had a, station myself where all my kids, they had all the fly Jordans and shit.

I sold them. You know, the Spanish people were coming in and buy Jordan for their kids for 30-ed-off. Right. Spanish people love flea markets, right? I bought that. I had that going. The federal agent, Lador Knight, Black Lady, total, total evil, man. Yeah, yeah. You don't want to see that. I'm talking about dude. She hated me. She called BB&T Bank, who was financing my loan. I had a construction of perm loan going.

How did she know, how did they have, by 2003, when you're doing this, How were they on to you already? How was this lady already on to you? The paperwork, the dude that I was telling you about that had the clothing store, K-O Sports. Yeah. He started working with the feds against Squirrel. Right.

Okay. Squirrel's the link to you. And I'm going to give you the redacted paper so you can see. It's going to mess. My name is nowhere in there, dude. It's going to break your house. Never. Nowhere in there.

I see. Okay. So this is their first colonel. So they come. The first breadcrumb. They come me. And they give me an indict. and tell me to show up in court, the subpoena.

It's a subpoena, and then they give me the indictment. I'm thinking, of course, that it's my indictment. They showed up with AKs and ATF, a DEA. You know, the FBI was the only ones that wasn't there. And the sheriff that I knew from Orange County, Florida, in Orlando. And he straightened him. I was telling your guy, man, he told him, he talked to them like they was nothing, but you don't know, federal agents or not.

When they come to your house from another state, they was coming from Virginia to Florida. That sheriff is the God. Right. So he told him, no, y'all don't even have an arrest warrant. They had me with the plastic cuffs on. I'm not nobody there, but my son. He's a year old. You got me on the floor face down.

One of the cops had his foot like on. He said, man, get up for that, man. You don't even. So he made him get me up. He cut the flex cuff off me. He said, have a seat, Mr. Day. He said, they have an arrest one. Not a rest one, a search warrant.

They didn't have an arrest one. So they searched my house. They don't find shit. Of course, they took all my bank records. This is going to be, remember that. Come back to that later. they took all of my bank records and I had a big IBM printer

that I had just bought the laser jet you know they weren't fast as they are now but it was fast so I told them man if you can please don't take because I had to do my taxes

please don't take my bank statements copy them I got enough paper in there oh yeah we're gonna copy it they was making copies but they took all that shit they took the copy machine and everything

and they took my shredder now the reason why they took the shredder of course you know they try to put it but they can't never do that But I had a receipt from an account that I had started when I was dealing with Acosta and then back in the day.

Pablo Acosta, the Mexican drug lord. Right. And they all sent their money. I used to send my money. I did the same thing that George Young did, but I didn't send mine to a country that got reappropriated. But he used to keep his money in Switzerland and stuff like that. So I never went, but a few of my guys that the guys went,

that's really what got me in trouble put. Swiss banks don't work with the United States. They didn't play. So where were you sending your money? I was sending it over there with Pablo Acosta, where he sent his money at. When they sent it out, it was over in Zurich. So you had your money in Swiss bank accounts.

You're going to see it in my paperwork. I'm not just talking. So look, when it went there, though, you can't touch it. Right. You know, it's there. You know, I have to go there. Right. They got to have this.

You know, they didn't do signatures and none of that. The bank don't even have a name on it. It's just an address. So this is the funny thing. That's so far. I had a, I used to come back just to show my wife the receipt, you know, the little bank ticket. And dude, I put the receipt in the shredder. And it shredded the wrong side.

It still had like six numbers. You know how something goes through with other paper and it turns. And you'll see it had enough numbers that they can tell which, you know, the routing. Right. And they knew that they came from Zurich. But when they went over there, them people didn't give them shit. You know what I'm saying? So the feds actually went to Zurich to this address to try to get in and seizure.

Oh, man, they file, filed, man. Those people are ironclad. Yeah. And after that, it went from that. When they gave me, I told you, they served me an indictment and a subpoena. Right. That doesn't make sense. the indictment would be the subpoena if it was mine.

I opened up. It was an indictment against squirrel. Right? So, but after they left my house with everything, they left me with the indictment, I do exactly what they tell me not to do. You're going to be a witness. I said, no, I'm not testifying against nobody. So you can bring me. I'll be a hostile witness.

So he's like, all right, well, we'll see. They leave. I fly. As soon as they leave, I immediately, now I don't fly. I'm lying. We drove in my expedition. I got my wife at the time to drive. It's not. It's now.

And this time when I got my son and my daughter, my oldest, my youngest son and my youngest daughter, my youngest daughter. She's my first wife. But anyway, we drove from D.C. She did it, and this girl was a monster. I mean, we drove from Orlando to D.C. in 12 hours, dude. She put foot to ass. We get there, boom.

Get there the next day. 12 o'clock, I call Squirrel. He come up there. I give them the paperwork. I said, I'm not supposed to be here. You need to read that, man. They're coming. Like that, right?

I leave him to paperwork. Now, I'm not insinuating anything. I'm just saying this. I'm really not. I'm just telling you the events that led up to me getting it locked up. I give squirrel that paperwork. I leave, I go back home. 18 months later, dude.

Did they arrest squirrel? No, this is the crazy thing. No, they didn't do shit. They just got quiet. Right. So what they did do, they went to talk to somebody. Because they didn't have the story. This indictment was against Squirrel,

and it was about the lockup when he met this guy, the K-O sports guy, and the setup, when he got set up there, and Squirrel had another case that he had slipped through out Virginia. And you know, they don't like that. He sent the guy, when he was dealing with me, he wanted to try to get his own plug.

Somebody told him they had something for him down there. So he sent some money down. They told him, come get the bricks. He sent the guy that we call Snitch Mitch now. he used to work for the gas company and snitch Mitch he goes down, he comes back he gets to Alexandria now

this is the thing I got a stiff rule if the plan changed the man changed you went down there to get the coke you come back you got eight and a half keys I don't know why it's a half and you got a little bit out of each key you didn't cook up a little bit

so you got crack in there too Mitch gets off the plane I mean a train in I'm sorry the train in Alexandria and calls Squirrel and say, hey, squirrel, man, you know, come get me. And I'm like, he said, dude, he pulled up on me at the shop. He said, man, you know, Mitch, Mitch called me and said,

you know, he needed me to come get him from. I said, what was he supposed to do? You're talking about that thing you had going on? He said, yeah, he got the brakes. He said, come get him. I said, if I was you, I wouldn't go. I said, why can't he catch a cab? You know, catch a ride.

You know, that's what he's supposed to do. Don't go. I told him if the plane. Man chain to man change. So he said he wasn't going to go. He'd get up. He leave. He'd go.

His wife called me. Soon as he did, they do the same thing. He get to the light. He told the dude to ask him. He see the dude standing there, but he sees some, like, shady people. So he tried to, he caught on too late. He got to the light.

The next light he drive through, he got to drive past Mitch Mitch. Because now he's at the train station. So you can't go nowhere. He'll have to go in and turn around. So he's trying to act like him on Sam as he's going past him here in the rental curran. He just see Snitch Mitch go like that.

And he said, man, he tried to push the gas again. He said, they keep the, they hit the damn car with something. It's just like they hit it with some kind of electric man. Right. It killed the car. He said the car stalled out. They get him. Man, Johnny, Mitch gets off the train.

He got the box. He got the box. So they already go behind my back. He got the box. It got the customs tape on it. I seen it. When I went to trial, they gave me all the evidence. All right.

He's walking past some cops. Cops don't know nothing about this, my father. The cops are going to get on the train and go home wherever they're going. They're going to do whatever. He's coming off the train. The cops laughing and he walking. He gets so paranoid as he was walking by him.

He just drops the box and his p-coat and took off running. This is snitch Mitch, and so that's, and then they caught him, found the keys, and he told on squirrel. He told on squirrel. Okay. So does squirrel get arrested?

Yes, squirrel got arrested. it. But while Squirrel was in, Snitch Mitch's wife was coming home from work or going to work one morning on Baltimore, Washington Parkway. And some dudes pulled up on, like, pulled up beside her. And, like, I guess they flashed guns on a machine, you know, pull over. So they kind of, like, I think they were going to run into her car. So she ended up flipping her car on 2.95.

She was upside down. This is what she said. This is her story. Let me send the paperwork. or dudes ran down on her and told her to, you know, basically tell your husband to shut his mouth. So these were Bahamas. It was something back. Hitman. So, yeah, all I know is it's in the paperwork.

And she testified to a book. That's fucking crazy. They have nothing. Okay, so then how does this lead up to you? Now, watch this. When they come to my house and I don't cooperate with them, they go back. I told you I gave squirrel a copy of the indictment.

When they come back 18 months later, right, they tell me, you got to show up in court now. They hand me an indictment and they leave. The same indictment that they hand me, I swear to God, Mitch. You know, I showed it to my woman, everybody, I'm sure it to you. It's the same.

It's so fake. I should have never got. found guilty, man. It's squirrel's indictment. They just took his name out as the leader. Rufus name is in there. They know everything. Somehow they know everything,

and we're going to get to that. Do they know about the routes? Do they know about, do they know about, do they know about, the Columbia? They didn't know about 90. The person that, I never told anybody, only other person that knew about 90 was,

squirrel, squirrel, never said nothing. I never said nothing. So 90 never got in trouble. But the old man named M. You know, he, they didn't lock him up, but they definitely went and questioned him, but they didn't have nothing on him because they needed me to talk. Erich Morley. Okay, so it sounds like obviously there were leaks throughout the years.

Because when you're selling, you know, 500 keys, 1,000 keys at a time, those, when they get down the line of distribution, obviously those lower ranking dudes are getting arrested. It's inevitable, right? Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. And so they've been, sounds like they've been building the case. for a while. Right.

And he just didn't know who the plug was. Robert Wilson gets locked up. Who's that? Remember, this is the guy that was my friend. This is the guy that moved in with me

in the military for a little while. He came home in like 96. He came in at the prime time, dude. He got out of the military. He was over in Istanbul,

Turkey. And he used to call me. He was so far away that when he used to call me, the phone used to delay. He'd be like, what's up, man? He'd be like,

shit. I'd be like, yeah, man, what's up, You know, it sounds so stupid. But it was crazy. He must have been on one of them sat phones, but he would only call him for like five minutes.

We had talked, man, I liked him. He's a good guy. But he's telling me all of his exploits in the military. So he was coming home. He needed to stay with me for six months. And he was going to be stationed doing, what you call that on the weekend? Reserves.

You know, the reserves. He was going to be doing that on the weekend at Andrew's Air Force Base. So, I talked to my wife. She said, yeah, cool, man, Drake, cool, man. I wouldn't like to meet him, you know. So he was on my class.

friends. He was squeaky clean then. He come home out the military. First thing he showed me, he started working at Fort Dix, you know what I'm saying? And he was doing reserves down here, but he was doing his main, at Fort Dixie's had a few hours of something he had to do, finish up there. So while he was at Fort Dix, he stole a bunch

of point blank bulletproof vests. First sign to here break the law. So he bring the bulletproof vests down. Of course, I buy them all, give them all to my men, you know, sell him. I mean, he got like 300 of these fucking things, you know what I'm saying? So he brought a point blank bulletproof vest. some plate in the front,

got the plate in the back. So I'm like, all, cool. So then he come out, and we talk, and I'm telling him about what I was doing because I'm really trying, I'm looking to get out of this shit even then, but, you know,

I couldn't find a, I needed to get just a big enough nest egg where I can get my mom straight, everybody's straight, and, you know, I could have done it, but I wanted to do some shit that was big. You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to tell you about that later. So he come in, I told him, look, man, he kept saying, I want to hustle. I say, no, you're military. You got good credit. You got everything I need. We can use your credit cards.

You can come in with me. Help me get more lanes. You know, we can come in. You can buy properties. You can buy, you know, we can get anything we want with this guy. He got an 800 and something credit score like me. I see. So I'm like, no, I'll ever use you for that.

Logistics and things that I need done. So I bring them in. He's helping me count money. I see. And that's what you see in the paperwork where they talked about $42 million. That was the most money I've accounted at one time. $42 million? $42 million.

What year was that? It took three days. It was, he was, he wasn't living with me no money. or even Bradford Place. That had to be close to 2000. And so you used him to help you count. Yeah, me, him. It was always me, my wife, my wife's sister,

um, um, uh, Dre, they were at, uh, Andre Wilson. He died too, um, in 04. They lied and said I killed him in my paperwork too. And he was never dead. They, they just lied, man. They gave me, they, they heightened my charge for that. But anyway. So he helped me count.

that much money one time. That's really what got them interested to me. But once they got the indictment, they gave me the indictment, I realized then that somebody had talked, but they didn't know anything. They just was saying you're the man. Like,

they kept saying, you, you was given. And I was like, nah, how do they get to Robert Wilson? Now, Robert Wilson, that's right, thanks for giving me back. Robert Wilson had served this guy that owned a storage unit company. in Virginia, worst place in the world.

Now, this is how Alexandria, I know you was wondering how. So he's selling Coke behind your back? He's getting the Coke from some dude named. I don't even know, can't even remember that guy named. It's in the paperwork. I had to look it up. But he bought some shit that wasn't real. It was, when he tried to cook it up, he was telling me, he had called me and said,

man, I know you told me don't do this, man, but I was trying to get some of some small shit, some short shit, like a 62 or eighth or something. But it wouldn't get hard. It had comeback in it. It's a cut that messes the drug up. It's only good for snorters. So, but when you try to cook it up and make it come back hard, it turns the goo. So he had it sitting on top of the refrigerator.

Now, unbeknownst to me, he was serving this hot dude that was out there that owned a storage unit in Alexandria, Virginia, and he served another guy that lived in the projects out there off of Route 1. It was, I forgot what the projects called, but anyway. Old Town, Old Town Projects, and he had an indictment coming. So when they run down on trade, they get him, but they don't really know what they got him on because the stuff that he gave the guy was no good. But the other guy that he served in Old Town,

that was real drugs. The second time the shit wasn't no good, he had to come back and get it, and he was supposed to replace it, but they decided to move against him. When they get him, he starts saying, look, man, I don't know if the guy's still doing anything because I wasn't.

I've been out the game now. He tells them about me, and he mentions, Rufus Cunningham. Now, you have to remember when the indictment came to me, Rufus got pulled over on 95. Hang on, hang on.

This is getting way too complicated. In the van. Robert Wilson, was he arrested? I just want to know all these key pieces that the government used against you later. Okay. How did they get Robert Wilson? Robert Wilson was locked up

messing with them two rats. Got it. They ran in his house, that house that he was renting from me. In Fort Washington, 8706 Devin Hills It was Devin Hills It was Devin Hills road or something like that

He was standing one of my condos He was renting one of them Okay So that's another reason why he was tired to me I'm sure oh damn you're going to like this Okay Thank you thank you thank you Okay so he gets arrested for selling that

Shitty Coke Yeah he got arrested for that But then when they ran in this house They found four of my guns Okay Because I was moving to Orlando And I couldn't take the guns We were sending all my cars and stuff

I should have put them in there But I had enough of them in it And on the auto train And what had you done with Robert Wilson besides count money? Count money. And the only thing far as drugs I ever did with him is he did go over there a few times with money strapped. To the Bahamas. Yeah, I did use him for that because he was clean.

They would never stop him. Right. You know, but he's also the same dummy that told Kareem to strap the $30,000 and then he got caught. Okay. Yeah. So he starts talking. Yeah, he started talking and he was telling them a story. At first, they couldn't have believed him.

Right. Because I was too young. Right. So they didn't take it serious until Rufus Cunningham. When Rufus shit popped up on Aphus and Ridgeland County, South Carolina, when he got pulled over in the, that little small box truck, the small moving truck. And they found the six keys on the seat, but later on found the other keys inside the chassis. Right.

They tatted together then. Rufus got locked up in Rishland County, South Carolina, and never saw the streets again. Where is he now? No, Ruf is home now. He's home now, but he never bonded out. He never bonded out. He never told. He's still strong.

He told them I had nothing to do with it. But guess what? Rufus ID. Now, by this time, remember I told you, I hadn't talked to Rufus. I'm living in Florida. I hadn't talked to Rufus, and I wasn't talking to Dern right now. I was mad at him about a real estate deal that went bad because of him. So, actually, him and Andre Wilson.

And so he, I tell Dern, I say, man, you know Rufus got locked up. He's not answering. I mean, I'm calling them, leaving an answer machine. You know, roof is down, man, call me, call me, call me. You know your bias and call me, call me. So finally he called me back. He acting like he don't know what's going on. I tell you know, squirrel, I mean.

Squirrel, acting like, he don't know what's going on. So I'm like, man, this shit is shady. So when I look it up, I call Doug Woods. I say, man, look, my boy, a friend of mine got locked up. A guy used to live in my property. I want to know why they bringing me there indictment. Robert Wilson got locked up. He was living in 8706, Devin Hills Drive.

Heaven Hills Drive. He got locked up. Now, he got my address. That house is mine. They said my name. Rufus Cunningham has an ID. I put him out of my house by now. Two years ago, I had put him out of my house. That was 63.23. Was it Kendall? But anyway, it was one of the houses in Fort Washington. And he was standing there, but he moved out. He still had my address on his license. So now this two times Major drugs and popped up This other guy got locked up with some fake drugs And somebody, you know, snitched on him So now that's two

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And you get a payout for trying Someone on Deepop wants what you've got. Start selling now. Deepop where taste recognizes taste. So it's Rufus and this guy Wilson. Now you got Squirrel. And is Rufus cooperating? No.

He's not. That's one thing. Ruth, none of my core people ever opened that box. Okay. So then how does the day you're arrested? Okay. When is that? Now, believe it or not, they let me go to court like they,

do like stock rich white stockholders oh stock stock stock stock turn yourself in yeah I go to court I didn't know I was going to go to jail they told my lawyer told me you just come in the court they're supposed to do your arraignment the day the government told me they're not even asking for you to be held you know saying because where am I going to go what year is this this is 2000 I think this is going into uh 2004 okay so I go down there and um I remember going into the courtroom, and it just felt funny. Lador Knight turned around, and she looked at me.

That was the prosecutor, and I looked at her, and then I just shook my head and walked over to my lawyer. My lawyer said, man, I'm not sure, man. I think, I'm going to go home, but I think they're going to ask for, you know, you have to get, you know, pay a bond and get locked up and get paid a bond or something. I said, why? I said, but I don't pay it, but why? But so he was like, don't worry about it.

So we go, everything's going smooth. they start doing a rundown or my lawyer telling him, oh, Mr. Day is not going to leave. He has no reason to leave. He owns multiple properties. And, you know, if he have to, he'll put up, you know, some property.

But what evidence? What evidence do they have? They had nothing but Robert, this is the feds, dude. There's no need for evidence. It's just Robert Wilson saying, what does he say, I counted up? I helped them count $42 million one time. And I know for a fact that Darren Black,

those keys, if he had that many keys and something, those keys belong to George. Okay. So he... They belong to Bitcoin. That's what he said. It's just, it's literally just the word of this one guy.

And then the address is that connected him and Rufus. Right. Okay. To you. So, yeah, they run up in the house. You know, they find the fake coke. They find the guns. Now, the guns are not registered to me.

Okay. So, of course, I'm not claiming none of that. But hang on. So do they know the extent of the organization? Do they know, they don't know about the routes from the Bahamas? At this time, they don't know nothing. This is just the beginning. They jumped a gun too fast and Robert Wilson didn't know enough.

Okay. But if you really look at it, they just reverse engineered the stupidness that Rufus and Squirrel just did. You understand what I'm saying? He coming back from the Bahamas. Now, this is their first lick. Squirrel flew over first. Rufus goes over the next day or the same. same day later on.

Now, it don't mean nothing. They're two random people until Robert Wilson say, hold up. Who you say, do I know? Oh, I know Squirrel. Yeah, that's, oh, that's coins. You see what I'm saying? Oh, and you can look, Rufus used to work in his barber shop

before Mr. Rose sold the shop to him, and Rufus went with Roosevelt to go work in the Christian barbershop. I wanted it that way, so we couldn't be connected. Okay. So are you the main target now, do you think? Yeah. I'm the main target because they really want me still to turn over.

They know that I know that this indictment is in mind. They know that they still don't believe with, trust me, she told, Lador Knight told the judge, we didn't even believe what Robert Wilson was telling us. Right, because it's so unbelievable. But then when they came to my house in Florida, then when they went to my other house and they were just looking at the cars and but then they saw my real estate holdings. and that's when they was thinking, oh, we can take all of this. Was the IRS criminal division involved?

Yeah, but the IRS cleared me. Because you were paying your taxes. I was paying my taxes. I didn't get tax evasion. You see that. It's fully legit. Yeah, I would love to pay my time. I was paying $6,000,000 a year, sometimes over a million.

Of course. I mean, you're doing great. Yeah. So, but you're in there now. Yeah. And what happens? They arrest you right there in court? When I'm in court, I thought I was going home.

At the last minute, my lawyer spoke, I swear. He mentioned a property that I owned in the Bahamas. And the government said, it's like, I swear it seemed like it was playing. Oh, he didn't declare that. And I was like, it's on my sheet. It's on the sheet. But verbally, I didn't, you know, when I was reading the sheet, I won't lie. I didn't mention the property because it was the only one that was out of the country.

What did you own in the Bahamas? It was like a small hotel. It was like, it probably wasn't even. motel, if you want to call it that. You know, swimming pool was really a building, but they tried to turn it into a little small resort, but it wasn't. You were just parking your money there.

Yeah, just 16, maybe 16, 8 to 16 units. Right. I was just parking my money there. Just something to have there. And she said, oh, we didn't know about that. He didn't disclose that. That's a place that he could have ran to and hid it. So just something that small,

when you read it in the transcript, it's just going to blow your mind. She just changed her mind. Oh, no, we're moving for no bond. the judge just agreed with him. I just told me, I'm fully dressed. I had a nice amani suit on. I had to take my jewelry off,

take my belt off, my ring. I had diamonds in my wedding ring. What are they charging you with? They charging me with this indictment. They charged me with the fake indictment that they took. What is the indictment? Okay, they charged me. The first count was, oh, conspiracy to distribute

five kilograms or more of hydrochloride, Then it was conspiracy to distribute 50 grams or more of crack cocaine. And see, people don't understand why that's, you say 50 grams and more, that's nothing. There's no charge higher than that because, remember, 50 grams was equivalent to 500, was equivalent to five keys. Five whole keys of power. Right. It was 100 to 1.

Right. As far as they knew, Robert Wilson knew nothing. Nobody ever told them that I sold crack before. So was it a CCE charge or was it just a plain drug charge? At first it started out as a CCE and a RICO. I beat that first thing. But as soon as they did it at the Aram,

you know how they do the show calls hearing and all that. The judge, they threw the RICO, any kind of hints at murders, all of that. They threw all of that shit out then. So I ended up with conspiracy for 50 grams of more hydrochloride. Conspiracy for 50 grams of more of crack. Conspiracy to launder money. This is the spaghetti now.

They're throwing out the wall. Then each check, it was nine checks, no seven checks, major checks, all of them over 15,000. You know, some of them 60 that I put down on cars. Out of the bank. Right. Not cash. Each one of them, that's why I got the 90 years from. The 20, the conspiracy to laundering.

to launder money was 20. Then the seven checks that I wrote, those were 10 years each. Those were money laundering. Money laundering. So that's the backs you could get. And somehow in their logic, they say, well, each of these cars is worth...

Well, I guess they don't even tie them to drops. Oh, no, they knew. Yeah, they didn't even have to. They knew what the cars were worth because my dumb ass in 2002, May, I sent you that two, May, I had ordered, I had went over, my ex-wife's sister was leaving Germany. She was over there with her husband.

He was in the military too. And they were leaving. And, you know, I guess we went over to help them pack up or whatever. And we went to the Bands dealership. And I didn't know, dude, when I got to the airport in Germany, you know, Benz was like fucking cabs, dude. Right, right. I'm getting into 600 Bands that got cloth seats.

I've never in my life heard nothing like that. Right. It's cloth raggedy seats. It's like tweed seats. You sit on it. So we go by the benz dealership while I'm there. My wife's like, you should get that. It was the hard top convertible.

It didn't come out until 2003. It was $132,000, man. I bought it. You got that shit. So I still don't understand how that they just, basically they've accused you of selling drugs. And so everything that you own now somehow is paid for with drugs. So the money laundering is.

They attached that to the cars. It's stacked. And then they went after the houses. They talked about the properties. So now it's all about, understand, my indictment because they didn't have any evidence other than the testimony of Robert Wilson. And I'm also going to show you the paperwork within inside the government's first appeal to, you know, response to my motion. They said the government had verbatim.

The government had no tangible or undisputed evidence to ever connect Mr. Data drug trafficking. All they had was the weight that the fact finder would give to the testimony of cooperating witness, Robert Wilson. That's the exact, you know, when I give it to you, you posted this, we're just going to say. Okay, so how long are you, you get arrested right there, 2004 at the federal courthouse. How long are you down fighting your case? Okay. They got me at the Alexandria Detention Center. I'm there from the end of 2004, beginning to 2005, all the way into September, September the 13th.

I fought my case for two years. They tried me three times. And you went to trial each time? Spank them. Wow. Lawyer costs $2.27 every time. So you paid him almost a million bucks. Yeah. Was it a good lawyer, though?

He was at the beginning. Okay. The first trial, they just indicted me. And you had a jury? Yeah. I went to a number four jury. And so you beat the case, but then you have these other cases. Well, I didn't beat it.

What happened was I kept getting a hung jury. And see, people don't understand a hung jury. Like, 11 people said not guilty, but one person said guilty. Right. So now it's like most prosecutors are dropping. But this Virginia, dude, they got a 99% conviction. Were they coming at you after the hung juries? Were they offering you deals?

Look, man. Just tell us, give us the Colombian. I don't know about no Colombian. Robert Wilson said, I don't know nothing about Robert Wilson. I don't know why he's telling. So give us, oh,

give us that, but behemian. Well, no, were they offering you, uh, 30 years to, to cooperate.

But could you have taken a deal without cooperating? Wow. So they don't even offer you a plea deal, even after you beat, or get a hung jury. They wanted, they wanted,

they wanted my best friend, Cedric. They wanted, um, they already had KB. They indicted KB, but they didn't get him until after I went to prison. They got KB.

Who are these guys? They're dudes moving big for you. Well, these are the guys. Remember, Kareem Bowden, that's my co-defendant that was flying over to get the Coke, too. He was on the actual plane with the big bundles. Right. With the 500 to half a ton joints. They gave him, he copped out.

They allowed him to cop out because they knew they really, honestly, they had, they had Rufus dead the rights, man. But he was ex-military, you know, his background was different from mine. He was like a Navy seal or some shit, you know what I'm saying? So they looked out for him, but they gave him 15 years, but they gave him eight more months because he made them take my name out of his piece of PSI. I see. So he kind of got a slap, not a slap on the wrist, but he got. Compared to what we were doing. Do you think you would have taken like 15?

Knowing seeing all the kangaroo court, you know, fuckery that they were pulling on you, do you think if they had come at you and said, hey, just sign here, we don't want to risk losing again? Do you think you would have taken it? You know, Johnny. Or was your ego too big? It was too big. Yeah. I would have took 10 because that's what I would have got for importation by itself. Right.

But what people don't know, when you couple 1957, the money laundering, when you couple 1956, the importation, I mean, the 846, and that's the conspiracy for crack, when you couple all of that together is life because it runs your, you know, your level up. I was at, I was at a 38 before we even got to the. Now you're a leader for more points. 40, you break the threshold. You already, I was two points above life. So it was the last trial.

You beat the, you got two hung juries. It was the last trial. I got three hung jury. The third jury hung two. But it was 10, not guilty, one guilty, one undecided. They acquitted me. They ended up, he gave him the island charge. when they tell them to go back,

don't make me walk twice the gauntlet. I was really willing to take that because I didn't think they would try me the fourth time. It was just costing too much money. These trials were going on for six or seven months. It's crazy. Eight months shit like that. So I was thinking, man, they're going to stop.

No, they sent the jury back and it was just foul, man, because it was right before the fourth, man. And people did not want to date. They were sequestering the jury. Right, right. Oh, so, okay, so the judge was like, people don't understand this.

The judge can say, no, I don't want a hung jury. Right. There's going to be either a not guilty or a guilty verdict. They got tired of it. He's the same judge. He didn't have been sitting here for two years going through this shit with me. And I'm at the county jail fighting this shit. Wow.

So it was the fourth trial. Yeah. It was like, well, it was the third trial, but it was the fourth verdict, like decision. Right. It was so you're right. Yeah. Just say that. Yeah, the fourth trial.

So it was a guy. It was like, God, I want to see my family. Yeah, they just was tired. He probably did it. And they thought, yeah. And they just said. They said, look, they said, that one of them. Yeah, we're going to acquit them.

Yeah, right. Sorry, George, you'll be in it on appeal. I got a barbecue to get to. Dudey. You're telling me I'm being in this hotel cooped up for the fourth, dude? Yeah. Because they was bringing me right back, like, you know, that Monday. And they had to come.

These federal jurors are getting paid $15 a day or something. Yeah, man, it was horrible. That's terrible. That's terrible. I knew something was crazy because, like, while we were fighting the case, it was actually a police officer that went to pull Rufus Cunningham over. Rufus Cunningham is probably five foot two, five foot forward tops, had dreds down to the ground, dude.

So he's light skin brighter than me, way lighter. He's almost like my mom. He's real bright, but short, you know, looks nothing like me. He gets pulled over. They tell Rufus, I mean, they tell the jury the last, on the last trial. By this time, a lot happened. My attorney, Robert Jenkins, he had, I had introduced him to a guard that used to always come get me when he came.

She thought he was fine. He was a short dude with Armani suits. Of course, he top-paid lawyer. And he started messing with her or whatever. And come to find out later, of course, I put it in my appeal. I think that La Dora Knight found out about it. The prosecutor. They bent them.

Because, and the reason why I say that, and he couldn't deny it, which he did, but he couldn't. It sound crazy. the judge didn't believe it, that's why they gave, I won. He allowed the government's witness the only, now you got to understand, you know, when you're in a big trial like that, or any trial, a federal trial, witnesses don't just come and testify. They have to testify to specific counts.

So he came in strictly for the importation, right? So the drugs they knew had to come from the Bahamas Because why would Rufus have to go to the Bahamas first And then come to, if he was just going to Miami to pick up some Coke Then he shouldn't be getting charged with importation You know, it shouldn't be So they knew that the coke came over, they charged importation. So he told them that the first two trials

They asked them, Make sure you put that up there on the On September the 13th, 2005, were you pulled over a sudden, sudden, such? Yes, I was. And when you, my lawyer, accent, the police officer, when you pull Mr. Cunningham over, when you pulled this suspect over, you know,

did you fingerprint him? Yeah, yeah. Did you get his name and da-da? Yeah, yeah. You got all that? Okay, yeah. Now look at my client. Was he the individual that you pulled over,

September the 13th, 2005, and found it to be in possession of six kilograms later to be found out that it was really 602 kilo grams. No, he wasn't. First trial. He did that. Second trial, same thing. Third trial, final, third and fourth trial, like we call it.

He asked the same question, dude, and I'm going to show you. He asked him, my lawyer switched the wording. Now, on September 13th, if you pulled that individual over, right? he stopped calling me an individual, yeah. And I say me because you're going to find out. He said, you got a good look at him, you know, at the station, right? Yeah. You're fingerprinting them yourself, right?

Yeah. Now, take a good look at my client, Mr. George Day. Was he the individual you pulled over? Guess what that cop said, man? Yes. I jumped up in court. They snatched me out of the courtroom. Put a spick bag over my head and threatened to put

At the same time I was going to trial, Kevin Gray and them, a notorious group of killers in my city, they were charged with it. I'm not saying that he was doing it, but they charged him with Murder Inc. It wasn't the New York one, but this was the real Murder Inc case. And the lead guy they thought was Kevin Gray, which he is. He was one of them. But the lead guy was Rassu. His name was Rodney Moore.

They put a stun gun on Rodney Moore. And when they lied on him in court, he would do like me, get emotional stunts. end up and go crazy. They stun gunned them. And he, you know. Shit himself? What? Yeah.

Okay. What does that have to do? Okay. So I didn't want them to put the stun belt on me. Okay, okay, okay. So when they did that. The cop lied, but can't you just pull up the records from the last two trials? It would be that easy.

Right. You would think that, dude, you can look through all my paperwork. They shot it down every time. I don't know what to tell you, Johnny. Right. When you read it, that's why by the time I got back, and court and somebody actually read my case, they let me go. Right.

I've been telling them from day one that they tried to tell me, well, even if they said it was a, they didn't have the recording anymore, that was a lot. Because they didn't get rid of nothing. They didn't give me my paperwork. I could, even in my appeals to challenge it, they held my paperwork for three years, Johnny. Wow. I went in the feds, technically, I went in the feds. They kept me there almost a year after I was sentenced.

They sent me off to the feds and, um, I didn't get my paperwork to file my first appeal, my 2205. I couldn't even file my direct appeal until 2009. That was free time. They wouldn't give me my paperwork. They wouldn't give me none of my transcripts because by this time they had to pay. Right. They had to pay.

I told them I was destituting now. I said, I can't pay no more. You know, I thought he was going to another fourth sledge fifth trial. Right. I said, I can't do it. I'm broke. Okay. So you're found guilty.

Yeah. You're found guilty. Life plus 90 years. Life plus 90 years. Wow. Did you think you had a good chance of winning your appeal? Or were you just devastated? Were you like, I'm done?

Because at the time I didn't understand federal cases. I told my mom, don't worry about it. You know, I put on a strong face. I thought I was dead. My whole mind, I was going in there and stab the warden or something. I'm just going to let them make them tell me. Right, right, right. Yeah, I've talked to a couple of guys on this show that got similar sentences.

a few of them said, I know I'm getting out of here, but it's kind of hard to, I mean, I certainly would think I was done. I wanted to believe, but when you sit here and get blamed, and I'm, like, look what they can do to you.

Right. I'm just like, dude, I was at work. I was at Legacy Lincoln and Mercury, and you're saying I was in the van with 500, 600, 600 keys of Coke. Like, what are you doing? And then the judge let them do it.

And I stood up clearly on the transcript. They threw me out the courtroom. I wouldn't come to court for like two weeks. Does your lawyer fight it? No. He told me it's not worth it. We can get it on the pier. So I started thinking like, damn, like, okay, on a pill, I can get it.

But why? Why not do that now? The police officer is a lot if we can. Right. You can get killed in prison while you wait to, you know, or you end up killing somebody. Right. But they tried to say when they started shooting me down about it,

they said that it wouldn't even matter. They had so much money evidence. But I didn't get found guilty of tax. face. Yeah. You guys got me for money laundering and it's easy to say somebody laundering money. They couldn't prove I did it. Yeah.

Everybody's laundering money. I got news for you. Yeah. Everybody. Trust me. Okay. So tell us about your bid. So you're down.

They shoot you off to the feds now. You got life. So this is a wild fucking prison bid. It's not like you just, you know, worked in the law library. Yeah. No. When I first went in, they, uh, first thing they did to screw me over. They knew that my wife and kids had left Orlando.

The only reason why we moved to Florida, we had no family day, only in Miami. But I was out the game, so we was just there by herself. I wanted to get away from everybody to focus on my kids. I'm retired now. And I had a son, finally. My wife gave me a son, so he's a year old. So I'm happy.

So they shot you deep, right? They knew my wife moved back to D.C., so they shot me to Coleman, Florida. Now, if she still lived in the house and Florida, She was literally 17 minutes from the jail. Yeah. Because it's right outside of O'Kala, which is right beside Orlando.

And they put me in Orlando, like in Coleman 2. At first they sent me to the one, but the one didn't have the custody level that I need to care level because I was asthmatic. And at that time, shit, I might have been 500 pounds almost. Right. So I had to have asthma.

I had the asthma treatments and all that. So they shipped me over to Coleman 2. the first day I come on the yard I'm walking down the sidewalk and they let us out it's always lunchtime when guys come on the yard that is so dangerous dude

because you coming out with your bedroll and these dudes is walking the yard with knives in there you know so I don't know none of this but you know dudes is hip in me so the homies I come out the first person I see is Lafayette Watts the guy that I told you in the last show

on the first part that I got them home the judge let him out to my custody. Oh, wow. But he's been in now, at this time, it's 06. He's been in since 93, 92. I lost contact with him. I turned 18 and he went to jail for the rest of his life, 35 of life.

And in D.C., when they give you a 35 of life, you got to do 35 years, and then you can go off of parole. That's worse than having a life sentence because if you get a life sentence back, you can go home. Right. He can't even appeal until he do 35. Right, right. So first reason I see is Lafayette.

So he's like, what's up, man? I said, man, what's up, son? He said, man, what's you doing here? He said, man, I read it in the paper, man. He said, man, you know, that dude, Dre called him, you know, beat, beat, ass, you know. And he's been there to to to toe on you, you know, whooops. So I said, man, I'm worried about that shit. I'm going to get that shit back, you know.

You know, you say that. Yeah, yeah. And I really believed it because I just, I was just like, I didn't know how, you know, but I knew I was going to give it back. So he was like, man, go, you're going to come back. I said, I'm going to go back and drop this shit off. I'm going to come back and eat lunch. So he was like, all right, hurry up. I'm going to wait for it.

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Right, so they send all the crazy DC fools. I knew you wanted to get into this. All those booty bandits. See, people hear that story and they wonder why. But let's stop. If you went to, okay, we're in Austin. Go to Austin State Penitentiary right now. Where the rapists at?

They're in there, right? Yeah, that's where rape go. Rape is not a federal crime. All of the rapists, all of the booty bannets, all of the dudes who raping men, because most of the dudes who locked up in the fares is on money. Right, of course. They robbing banks.

Even if they valid it, they rob banks for money. Yeah. It's money charges. You know what I'm saying? The only time murder gets there is when you mix it with getting money. Right, right. So we're walking back to the yard. I see this guy running the yard.

I almost thought he was a woman. I said, they got women in here, man, what the hell? Long hair, he was Spanish. It was Fabio. Fabio had just blew the yard over at the medium. Because Fabio at this time got 15 and his custody level was down. Right. Fabio Ochoa made a deal with the feds.

I don't know rat shit. They let him keep a bunch of clubs and hotels that he owned because them dudes owned like damn near 30, maybe 40% of Ocean Drive back then. That is wild. Fabio the Ochoas from the Medellin cartel. Yeah. They owed the Shore Club.

They own Nikki Beach. There was at one Ocean Drive back when I was home, but it's probably totally different now. They owned the Shore Club that was back then. That shut down, too. I've seen that. I went down there maybe last year or the year before. But yeah, he owned about five or six restaurants.

Wow. And they let him keep it. Why? Because he gave up like $2 billion. He gave him $2 billion in cash and said, I'll give y'all that. Y'all can have that money. Right. But you got to let me keep my real estate in Miami.

Wow. And he made the deal with him. Yeah. Of course. Now, he's home now. He's back in Columbia. Yeah. And they didn't give him life.

No, the Ochoa's got the sweetest deal in the history of drug trafficking. None of them, they're all home and free. But can I ask you a question? Man, it got to change. Tell me why I could a dude like me? There's no way I moved or imported. Yeah, I imported cocaine. I admit that.

There's no, and this is the only charge. Don't forget, let's let your audience know. The only charge that I got found not guilty of was importation, y'all. Right. I know. I know. The only charge. I think part of it is the ironic thing about this whole drug game and the sentencing is that

the bigger you are, well, two things. The bigger you are, the more information you have. And most people are going to rat. Right. And so, hey, you get a time cut. So it's better, the bigger you are because the more you know and you can give them. The other one is, if you're so infamous and you have so much money, that's another way. You can almost buy yourself out of jail.

Right. Not almost. You can. Right. So that's kind of what happened with Fabio Ochoa. And to be honest with you, Johnny, because I know you're going to cuss me out late. You probably can't cuss me out there. You can't.

Yes, you are. Because trust me, dude, listen, man, they, if I gave them the money, they would have, they probably would have threw this shit out. Because they had nothing on me. So you could have. I only got found guilty of Coke. So they didn't find all your money. They didn't find. The only thing they got was the $2.3 million.

Whoever stole the $700,000, they got nothing else. They didn't have, and I never claimed that money. So you still have money sitting in Switzerland? You still have, did they get all your real estate? They got one house in Orlando. though. I got, I did a quick claim deed as soon as they came after, as soon as I seen the other child, John. Oh shit.

Squirrel. But they didn't get, they didn't get the shopping center. They didn't get the houses. I lost that. The apartments? The loan got rescinded. Lador Knight literally called my loan officer. I'll show you the cease and desist and told them you do. You know that y'all are lending money to a drug import

money launderer. I was going to sue. BB&T for that, but I guess they did. Did you think about that? Did your lawyer say, hey, look, if you have money, we can play a ball if you just give everything over? My thing was, shit, I didn't make the money for me anyway. I mean, I'm autistic, man. I'm not scared of nobody. I didn't want to go to jail, but I'm saying, what can they do to me? I mean, I knew I was, no way they was going, I was going to really do life. I didn't think I, I thought, honestly, I was a fool. I told my wife, I'd be home in five, ten years. Right. Well, it wouldn't take me that long.

And the logic you're like, okay, if I have, let's just throw a number out, if I have $10 million in cash, the time it'll take me to make that back legitimately is way longer than the time I'll be in here. Right. I just got to get out of here. Yeah, I just, you know, and that's that. So my thing was, I mean, I used to tell guys when they came and they'd be like, they might go rob the bank for $50,000 and they get $15,000. They'd be like, shit, I felt like it was worth it. How? Take 15 years.

Take $50,000. and divide 15 into it. That's all you made a year. I know. So when people told my lawyer told me to do that, I said, really, you're going to do that? I mean, you got to think in real estate the last year, I sent you to the docket.

I did $6.7 million my last year legally in real estate. Just in rent. Yeah, just in income. I'm done. That's crazy. Not to mention the value of the properties are going on. And they went up crazy because I bought these properties for $1. Some of them you've seen,

I got for condos for $8,000. that's written for $3,000 a month now. Yeah, so I'm not mad. I wouldn't have done that. I hate prison. I love pussy. Me too. And I just don't have faith in myself like that.

I would have given them everything to get my ass out of there. But I can understand where you're coming from. So I don't judge you at all. I don't judge you at all about that. I think it's kind of gangster, to be honest with you. Super gangster now. Yeah. And do you know why?

It was misguided. Let me tell you something. I want to say something to the guys out there. And I'm going to say this to you because you said something to a dude on here one time. You said, man, I think he asked you. No, it was a guy. You was on his show. The other white guy.

No jumper. That's my guy. I fucks with him. Yeah. He said, you said, man, is there anybody? He said, man, but you didn't tell him. You're like, yeah, but I didn't have to do a lot of the time. But, you know, sometimes you cannot have to do it.

You know, but what do you mean? The reason, like, tell, cooperate. The reason why I feel like I didn't tell, it wasn't that I was trying to be gangstant. It was because I knew for a fact they didn't have shit. And for some reason, when they get you wrong, it's like when they get you wrong and you know it, when that cop, just that cop line on me, I kept saying,

that's the only ever, if they didn't believe nothing Robert Wilson said, right. They believed the money because they found 2.3. And that sitting in the courtroom hurt. Right. It was a lot of money. Where did they find 2.3 million? In the storage unit.

Okay. I had like eight storage units. Okay. Yeah, that's what I was going to tell you. It was a lot. That's what I said. You said it's too much, man. We're going to have to do a movie, man.

You just got to pitch it, man. Look, the two, or mini series or something, the 2.3 million, that was nothing. That was nothing because every storage unit I had, I would get them, two or three them in each place. I would put 300 here, but I would never put more than $3 million. That's how I knew it was $3 million. Right. I remembered it.

And they only claimed... This was my money. And they only claimed 2.3. Right. I never... I put it in it and I leave it. Yeah. So when they got that, it was 2.3 million.

So it was only one other person with a key. So I know who did it, but you know, we ain't going to... Oh, because there was somebody... It wasn't the law that clipped you for seven of them. No. I had the whole video with... I had cameras in there. I was telling you...

So you had somebody in your circle that clipped you. Somebody very close to me. Very close to me. Yeah. Well, okay. So Fabio Ocho, you run into him at Coleman. What do you mean? he just set the yard on, blew the yard up. What is that?

He was over at the, he didn't do it. They lie on you, man. When they're mad at you. So Fabio had worked his way now. He programmed. He went over there. His wife came to see him all the time. His wife was beautiful.

My daughter had a crush on her. My oldest daughter, she, you know, she'd be messing with girls. So she had a crush on Fabio to his wife. She was beautiful. All of his women were beautiful. But anyway, he was at the medium. And a helicopter, I remember the day that it happened.

I just didn't know they'd, shipped his ass back to the pen because of it. We was all happy, you know, somebody who had 30, you know what I'm saying, 30 years or better, because he got 30. Right. But he ended up doing less, you know what I'm saying, when he gave the money back. 30, he didn't do much less. He, damn they served the whole 30, 26 and a half or whatever.

But he, he ended up, um, a helicopter flew over the yard. I'm talking, you never, and you're in federal prison, if it flies over the yard, it has to be so high up that, you know, this helicopter was low dude it was low to I'm surprised the towered it from the pen didn't shoot it down right they blamed it on him dude

said he was in why would he escape he's going home and like I think he had like maybe 10 so they thought it was like an escape attempt dude they Fabio they that night Fabio they locked them up that night about three in the morning Fabio ended up back on the block

oh wow that's crazy did they ever have people flying helicopters over dropping shit in No, not in the pen, but at Fort Dix, we'll talk about that one. Okay. Because it was drones, dude. Yeah, the drone game, of course, of course. So, yeah, did you, I mean, you're obviously, you know, you talked about shootings.

Like, you did some gangster shit as a kid. Oh, hell yeah. So did you get down in there? Yeah, we had no choice. You know, I didn't have to do much of it because I was more or less in the beginning, yeah, I did some things that. you know, participating in the stabments and stuff because I was getting myself,

when you first get that kind of time, you'd be so mad. I was mad at everybody but myself. Yeah. You know, before you have the conversation with yourself, like, you didn't have to sell drugs, George. Yeah. You wanted to be an attorney.

Right. Actually, you wanted to be a prosecutor because you like Perry Mason so much. You know, I used to watch Perry Mason. Yeah. You know, he always just trying to get the real murderer and try to get his gal. You know, I was into that,

and I had the brain for it, but I didn't have to do it. So after a while, I had to just face the fact. I had to stop being mad at Robert Wilson. Robert Wilson wasn't the one that did this too. That's the great arc that everyone must make is looking at yourself. It took seven years. Right. I messed up my first seven years.

I'm going to give you the shots. I was attacking. My problem was with the police. I used to attack the police. I did some stuff to inmates too. Can you talk about anything? I'm going to tell you. A lot of the violence that happened in jail,

I tried to use my hands more than anything. The few times that I had to stab somebody, it was one time, me and my guy, Gamma Gould, was going to run a guy up. And this guy named, his name was Michael Perry. He's not related to Wayne Perry, but shit, he should have been the way his hands was. Michael Perry could fight his ass off. And we stepped to him, and I think we was at McCrory then, because I know Goode was at, no.

That's a tough place. No, we was at, yeah, I was at McCurray. No, we was, I just lied to you. I had, this was my punishment, y'all. We was at Victorfield. and we had to get him off the yard. Why? Because, what?

San Bernardino, dude. We didn't in the Hamid desert. This is gang land. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Michael Perry hit the yard and he was a rat. He had told. Oh, I didn't know that. And he was from D.C.

Like, it was like, you know, I didn't even think I was going to have to do nothing. I had an ice pick on me. McGahn Magoo had the flat piece. And I just remember, Garn Magoo telling him, you got to go, man. You know, them, them go, man. You know, them boys going to come off the yard. They said if he ain't gone by 8 o'clock, he was in our unit, so we had to handle it. But I'm thinking he's just going to go up top.

And the guy, he swung on really, he swung on Gamagoo. And Gamma Gou, who, Jesse knew that Michael Pry was a fighter. I didn't know nothing about this dude. I'm just, you know, I was in Coleman, then they, on punishment. Because we was bringing, I was hustling down Coleman, too. You know, when you get there in order to bring the peace, when you, the big homie with the money, Your homies there robbing dudes, putting them up under the bunk, you know, putting laundry bags over their head. D.C. was...

What do you mean you were hustling? Okay, when I got there, Fabio and them had a thing. You know, when you're on the yard, all that kingpin shit don't mean nothing. I'm just telling you. It's cool. People respect you. But eventually, if you ain't doing anything for the homies, you know, who are you? You know what I'm saying?

So when I got there, we didn't have a good name. Like, dudes wouldn't give us no work. If you work a job in the kitchen, you're making 40-cent-hour. $80 a month. They give you 50% bonus $120 a month. Right. There's nothing. You know, so guys was just coming to me, bringing me their problems.

And I was just like, man, so, you know, I see him, dude, why don't know why get y'all nothing to hustle? Get you some papers. Yeah. You know, because you're taking a gram of dope and making $3,500 in there. It's crazy. One gram. And this is tar.

Yeah. If you got some good powder. Oh, forget it. You're probably going to make $5,000 every gram. And we was, you know, dude was bringing 30 grams in at a time. Crazy. two grand balloons, you know what I'm saying? So you put your money behind that?

Oh, yeah. I mean, it was crazy. I didn't even have to put money no more. Right. I was the mule. Oh, so you had somebody, what was your route? My route was my folks. That's why I waited five years to come talk to you.

At the visiting? Popcorn, baby. Yeah. Yellow balloons. Wow. Wrap them up. She come in, got them up in the snatch, go in the bathroom, pull them out,

put them in her little loose little thing she got tied around the waist. go get me a bag of popcorn. Drop it in the popcorn. Just eat the popcorn and then eat the balloon. Pop. Wow. As soon as I get back, we do that right at the end. Get back.

If I want to get it out that day, some of the, some of the, like we had a Mexican name Tio, I love this guy. Hold on, hold on. So you could get $15,000 off of three balloons. Yeah, that's nothing. I'm going to tell you, I was bringing 30 in for Tio. So what he would do is send it to my folks.

inside of a teddy bear. You know, just a teddy bear. You push the button and the eyes light up. I love you, you know. She'd get it, bust it open. It's 15 balloons in there. I would tell her just in case, rewrap it. So she would either take a condom or the non-lubricated condoms,

wrap it, nodded, push it back through, nodded again. But you can't be too big because I got a narrow gullet. Right. When I got shot, I got a tube in my neck so I can't swallow big things. So two grams, the balloon would be about this big. because of the knots. Right, right, right. But it would really be about that much, you know.

But it was tar, Mexican tar. So you could, and you're swallowing 15 of those at the visiting, at the table? Ain't no problem. Yeah, matter of fact, one time, Gama Gou, we go up. So Gama Gou had the good shit. He was messing with a dude that's dead now, so I can say his name too. I can talk about him anyway. Ah, it had come to me.

But anyway, Gama Gama Gou had him, and this dude got locked up on a murder, had just been a murder, a double homicide. So Gama Gama Gou was like, my man, Just beat the pie. His name was Pye. The homie's going to know him. Rest and peace, Pye. Pye had some shit out there.

It could have been hit with Fetty. I don't know. I don't think they was doing that shit then, but this shit was Tad. Dude, Gama Gou gets the shit up in the visiting room. His aunt bring it. I told him how my wife did it. So Pye, you know, gave his aunt. He live in D.C.

Gave his folks the shit. They bring it in. So we get, I got my, my wife got my shit in. So mine is always good, but it was tar. It's nothing better than powder. If you can get that powder, you can do a lot. You can take the dietary supplements off the commissary. Right.

Because you got to. Because if somebody OD in it, your ass is done. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I got my 15 coming in, you know, and he had like 30 grams coming in. And I think they made his too big. He had 10 balloons instead of 15. And he had, they was too big and they weren't rap right. So I was like, shit.

And I was having a problem, but I got all mine down. The last two that I put in my mouth, I threw them in their right boom. One of them, I always squeeze it with my tongue. Like that, make sure I can feel the air bubble, swallow. The next one I squeeze, I taste dope. So now I'm scared that I'm going to be fucked up because I've never been high in my life. But, you know, I'm scared you're going to OD? I'm an OD, right.

But it's just the shit they scrape off the side of the pot. Right, right. But I'm not thinking about that yet, so I don't want to. swallow the balloon. I can't swallow because I will die. Because that you're talking two grams of that shit. It will kill you. So I spit the balloon back out in the back and I went over to the pitcher guy. He always told me, it was one of my

homies. He said, man, if you ever need some help, you know what I said? He was a Muslim dude. So I told him, I said, yeah, I need some help, bro. He said, wrap it up in the receipt. So you buy receipts at commissary for the tickets. The picture, they call picture tickets. So they photo, they're a dollar apiece. So I had some picture tickets in my pocket. My wife go up to take the pictures. I'm reaching a bag, put the balloon back on my mouth, I spit it

in a receipt, wrap it up, laid it on the desk. So he looked, saw it, took the pitches, came back, took the receipts, pushed them in his box. He brought that balloon out for me. So now I had another route to be able to do that. We can just pass the shit off. He doesn't have to swallow. Right. So he told me, now he said, when I finished taking pictures,

dog, they let me, they make me empty all the trash cans. He said, go in the bathroom, throw the shit in the trash can. We only can use that a while because one of the inmates stole the shit, boosted it. I never saw it. But still, I mean, if 30 grams of heroin is $150,000. Dude, we was feeding, listen to me.

When I get the, when Gamagoo, let me finish telling you a story on that. Yeah, you're right. Now, let me tell you how we broke this bread down. Gamagoo gets scared. All of a sudden, I told him what happened to me. He was like, man, the balloon's too big. I tried to swallow it. I can't.

I said, man, you're too stressed, man. You got to calm the fuck down. And you just got to swallow a nigga. Give up the, you know, the gag reflex. I'm sorry. You know, you know, we... That's the conversation I give my girlfriend before anal.

I'm like, you just got to breathe. You just got to breathe, baby. Breathe. So look, I just said, man, you got to breathe. He said, man, I can't do it. So I'm like, damn, man. So him, his auntie... And this is all in the visiting room

when you have guards, like cameras everywhere, guards walking around. But listen, there's certain guards you got. Now, we know we learn their schedule because they can't change their schedule. The only time you don't know who's in a visiting room if you ain't been paying attention

is if you're not going up on the dad's floor. We call it going up on the dance floor. Well, you know that. We call it going up on the dance floor. So look, we in there. I can't get the balloons from him because I can't even be seen talking to him. So his auntie and my wife grew up there, she bought me a burger or whatever. The auntie throw the balloons onto a little plate, you know, and cover it up with napkins.

My wife was like, baby, this is some bullshit. So she gets the popcorn, you know. She's popping up a bag. My daughter acts like she wanted. So she has to pull the shit in the popcorn. them 10 balloons. I didn't already swallow mine and gave one of them to

Jihad. That was his name. I gave one of them to Jihad. A Muslim guy named Jihad. Yeah, his name was Jihad. That's crazy. But then you know, they picked these names, dude. I know.

It's bad branding. Am I? Yeah, that's crazy. Am I, my, uh, mechanics name Jihad. Anyway, but so look, so Jihad, look, he's sitting there. That ain't his real name.

His real name is Ronald. But anyway, Jihad was locked up on a murder, too, but he was good. dude, cool, solid. I gave him the one that was busted. And so since when we was going back up there to take some more pitches, I put two more Gama Gouz balloons,

because all we got to do is give him a third of it. I give him two of them. So I give him two. So now I still got eight of Gama Gouz, and I already swallowed all of mine. So I took the bag over there, you know what I'm saying? We got me, mom, she come over there. We went back.

I grabbed the bag of popcorn. Now I'm literally feeding my kids playing, giving them popcorn because I'm just nervous, man. I ain't never did this. I ain't never had to take something from somebody else, and I don't know if they've seen the switch. Right. I didn't see it, but it's a camera right over top of the microwave.

So understand, they're doing this shit hoping that when they do the switch, somebody's not watching the camera because they're watching, dude. Yeah. The cameras is all, they, they're hip. So, but, you know, my wife knows how to move. She pretty much did what she had to do. She did it for the whole six years I was down, Coleman. So also I told her that it wasn't, I told it wasn't nothing serious.

I told her it was tobacco. Yeah, that's smart. That's smart. So that way if she got caught, she could say, you know. So you get 15 balloons and you got 30 grams. How does that move? Do you just give them to your people wholesale like you were on the street with the bricks? Or how are you moving it?

They're in prison because you got to cover. You got to remember, it's 12 units. So you might, they lettered. Most of them they either lettered or numbered. And where was this specifically where you were running this heroin, this was Coleman. This was Coleman. This was my first.

No, the only reason I agreed to this, not because of the money situation. but because the federal government, you tell yourself anything to do wrong. They shouldn't have never put me here. Right, right. You know, I want to be home with my family. Put me to Haysington. Send me to one of them killing fields.

I don't care. I'm gonna be all right anywhere I go. I'm solid. You send me to Coleman knowing that my wife already moved back. We was talking about that in trial. So you knew they asked that I be sent far away from home.

Because now my residence is, you took my house in Florida. Why? That's the only house they took from me. 12720 Greco Drive in Orlando, Florida. Okay, so how does it move? How do you move in the hair on?

So when we get the hair around, boom, I get it in. I have to give Gamma Gou now. Whenever you bring it in, you can get up to half. But this is my home boy. This is my homeboy. Whenever you bring it in, you got to, you can get up to half. I only charge him a third. So since he had 30 grams, I get 10 grams.

So I get my balloons, boom. But it's hard because he got three in each one. So I told him instead of you on me, we could get locked down. You know I'm good for it. I'll take, instead of taking three balloons and then you owe me a gram, because they don't know how to measure it and you're going to try to cut it and all that. I kept four and told him I'll just give you two grams or I'll pay you what you want for. Everything was cool, so he got his.

Now, what I did, the tar, I can only, I think we only got, with $25, we get like $100, maybe a hundred, back then we'd get like $125, 130 papers out of a good gram, solid gram of, um. And how much each paper sold for? $25. Wow. Yep.

Oh my God. So, and then. It's just off of one gram. $25 off a one. And when I tell you, the papers were micro dots, dude.

Oh, yeah. It's nothing. It's, I don't even know how they, but it'd be knocking them on their ass. You know what I'm saying? Oh, because they don't have any tolerance.

Yeah, it's like a little. If you see like the embarrassing bugger that it'll be on somebody's small. Right, right. It's smaller than that. Cut it in half. It's like a little piece of lent, man.

It's like a dot. And how do the fiends take it? Now, dude, they would take the inside of a pen. They would take the inside of a pen. Somehow they turned it into a, a rig. A push. I don't know how they, I caught my homie and they would the thing hang, freeway hanging, he did now, hanging out of his arm one day.

And I was like, what the, but they had a thing, but they would push. And the dope would go in and everything. It worked. Or they would catch a sweet nurse that do the diabetic needles before they start making the ones that you're going to can bang once. She would turn her head

but they'd get her ass every time. They'll get like two or three. I mean, if you get that needle because you got that, this is the bad thing about it though. When they get that one needle, oh, everybody's shooting up with that thing. Yeah.

Yeah. A lot of hep C. being passed around. HIV. Yeah. All of the shooters, yeah. All of the shooters, they hung together. They would be out on a wreck, y'all going into the Lordeville.

You know, the toilet they have on the yard. You might see them going there one at a time. They stand there. And the other, they're looking around. They're really going in there. Oh, my God. So they were shoot. And the ones that blew, they just blew.

Right. Okay. So are you selling these little papers yourself? Or are you giving them to your... Of course not. After the first maybe, I won't lie, for the first maybe... We all want to know. What makes people tick?

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Four or five months, me getting used to being in and all of that, because when I got, when I hit the yard, they were doing bad. The homies, they were going to the hole just to fuck somebody so they can get close to the home. Right. After a while, once you hit California, you're going to see what they did to me. They sent me far away from home they could. They broke my marriage up.

They told me we're going to send you to lose your girl world. And it worked. Within five years, she was gone. You know, she had slept with her trainer, had a baby and all that. I didn't care anyway. I was about to leave her anyway. So I told you I bought the house.

But, you know, it hurt. I ain't going to lie. It hurt like hell. Right. You know, because that was my support. And then when did your, okay, so all this time, your appeal is set in motion? After the three years, you finally get your...

If I get the appeal, I dropped the bomb on them. The first thing I go for the gusto, the police officer's alive. Da-da-da-da-da-da. I get the transcripts. Man, you got to remember, I got like 18,000 pages of transcripts. Wow. Yeah. You know, you know.

So do you take it to, like, the law library? Do you take it? Is there a guy in there? There's usually jailhouse lawyers. It was a jailhouse lawyer, but it's the thing. Now, I was locked up with all legends, man. I want to say, what's up? to Linwood Gray.

Kevin Gray's, the murder-in-case I told you, Kevin Gray's uncle name is Lenwood. He was a gangster. If you look him up, I hope he, I wish he would come on here, but he's just so old. He probably wouldn't even talk. But Linwood, they accused him

of killing a federal informant on the, on the courthouse steps. Wow. He sniped him, you know. Look him up. He's a monster. Like, he was a cold gangster. I'm talking about loving him.

And he was a jailhouse lawyer in there? Yeah. No, he was. But he wasn't down there. It was another guy named, This is a funny thing. Linwood, I was giving my paperwork. I needed help because I knew my case.

I told it to him. But he was, the guy that was down there working, I can't think of his name. Let's just call him pee-wee for right now. It'll come to me. You know how I does. His name's probably pee-wee anyway. It probably is pee-wee.

He was a little small emaciated man. But guess who he was best? He was from Tennessee. But guess who he made the major mistake. I've not been able to be my jailhouse lawyer because he was best friends with a preacher from New York. the guy preacher, he's an older guy, he was the one extorting people,

he would come and act like he'd have broomed. Some of you didn't got kidnapped, you're a drug dealer, he ended up acting like, you heard him, preacher, man. He got locked up, he ended up getting out, I think now because he snitched on, he was letting dudes tell him his case, why he was acting like he was working on their case,

and a dude told about a murder that he killed the police officer and preacher went home. He left us at Coleman, too, snitching on one of the guys from New York that told him, no, Florida, that told him about killing the police officers. Wow. But yeah, but so Linwood came down to the court.

Linwood came down there and told me, don't give him your, your, Leon, that was his name. Thank you. Leon, he was a little little, he emaciated, man. He told him, man, you didn't have here working with my paperwork. You got my nephew paperwork, and you got that rat. He said it right in front of Preach your face. You got that rat over here looking at, man, look, he told him, don't try it. He said, you try to go home with my nephew.

He told him, we're going to kill you. You know what I'm saying? I just got my stuff back from Liam. y'all took it. Then we said every day you meet me down in the law library. Wow. No more watching TV, all that, none of that shit. So I respected him, man, you know, and he was right.

You know what I'm saying? He's the one typing the motions out. At first, where he was helping me do the law. He won't do none of that. He'll do it if I needed him. But he told me stop typing. I was doing my first little motions I was doing just to get in, I got in. I was typing him.

He said, stop doing that shit. He said, man, write that shit on paper. So I have uncanny. I'm going to give you pictures of. I used to take regular typing paper, and I don't know how I can do it. I turn the paper like this, and I write just as straight as a typewriter.

Why is that? Why write it out instead of typing? Because he said, man, it's like you're putting, your filling it into it. Right. He said, when you do that, they know that you really care. You really caring. And see what I did by doing that.

So it also shows your intelligence. Right. You see what I'm saying? You got corrective language on a keyboard. You can do that and then have somebody printed out. on the own Coralink system, give it to somebody, you know, with this, if I misspell a word, I misspelled it. Didn't misspell one word, didn't mess up.

Wow. You know. How long did that take you? No, my first motion, it took me to do all of the studying, about three months. Okay. And so then when did you get it filed? I filed my first motion. Yeah, what year?

I'm going to say, 09, I filed my first one in 2009. It was about March. You ain't going to believe this. I sent it in, and I literally, I. I sent it in in 2009 in March, I got an answer back so fast. It was almost like it was fake. Because, you know, I'm sending it to Virginia.

You got to file to the, your 2255, you filed to the court that sentenced you. So I sent it there. I think I got an answer back. Like, it was within like two weeks, dude. Like, I don't know how it got there and got back to me in the, they granted it. They said, they didn't grant me,

they didn't vacated. I just wanted to extend. that because remember, they kept, but the government kept saying, I'm taking too long to file my direct appeal, but I never had, how can you file a direct appeal and you're not giving my transcripts? I couldn't prove, I didn't even know the officer's name that lied on me and said that it was me in that truck with all of that coke. So I needed the transcripts. So when they finally got me the transcripts, it took me about 90 days, me and Lenwood. So you got an extension on your appeal? Yeah, just to be able to file my direct. Okay. And did all of that.

that man sent it in they put uh under four four b it was some stupid shit they uh they found a way what did they do they'll they la mind i think they call it la mind like limited me being able to go into the police officer um lying on me and this that and the third when i said no i said something in court, but you guys just didn't respect it. You threatened me to put the stun bag on me. I ain't want to defecate on myself. You know, my friend had one on them, you know. So I stood up in court and they showed it that I, you know, I was arguing about it.

They tried to say that I didn't bring it up in my motion, you know, right when your lawyer gives them a notice that he's going to appeal, you give your fundamental reasons. Right. The lawyer did forget to mention, I don't know how, that was the biggest thing. you know, I get found guilty of distribution and get a life sentence when I didn't really distribute. The distributor is the person who...

Sells it. You were just important. Yeah, who sets the local... That's their law. That's the law that, you know, in the Black's Law Dictionary. You have to be the one that's just set the local price. Right.

So I didn't do it, but I get found guilty of that. So I'm breaking it down. They shot me down. Now, 2010, that's nine. Right. 2010 coming. Lose my wife. Right.

They, for no reason, I'm going up there catching pack. They don't know nothing about this. I'm working in a barbershop. The captain was a black guy. The lieutenant in the hallway was a white guy who was supposed to make captain before the black guy.

Me and him was always cool. I used to call him Kubanov. He was a big-ass-like Russian-type dude. You know, nobody played with him. You know what I'm saying? He really bust you up. You know what I'm saying? So we ain't played with him.

But he was cool. He walked me to the barbershop. Let me in any time I use the bathroom, need to use the bathroom. I knock on the door here, let me out. Cool. Him and Brown, him and Captain Brown, who was a lieutenant just like him, got into it. He come to the barbershop.

One day he sees somebody pushing me 10 stamps under the door for a haircut. Now, at this time, 10 stamps, each stamp was 50 cents, so that was $5 for a haircut. He finished giving me the last 10 stamps. He owed me a book, you know what I'm saying? So they used to send me 10 stamps under the door. I get the 10 stamps. Big Kubiak running the bathroom on me, I mean, running the barbershop on me. but what you got there?

I said nothing, man, 10 stamps, man. All of my stamps are, oh, you're not supposed to get nothing from another inmate. You know, just some dumb shit. Charge me with it. And then, you know, I get, I lose my job in a barbershop. Right. So you got a ticket for that. Yeah.

But, you know, of course it got thrown out. But so now I can't work in a barbershop, but I'm the one that does all of the ordering. I'm the orderly. I order. I order. I hire. I fire. Is this after the hair on? Yeah.

No, no, just doing the hair on. This is everywhere I went, I did. The only yard I didn't hustle on was the last two yards I was at, which that's a lie. Okay, the last yard I was at, that was, that was, um, for Dix. Haventon, I slowed down because I was on my way home. Right. Okay. So let's get into it.

When, just walk us through the years and the motions and let's just go through that. Okay. Now, here we go. We're going to do this real quick. In a nutshell, my direct appeal, they shot it down. They killed it. Boom. They knocked it down immediately.

Wow. And I was like, wonder how, oh, my God, I don't know how I'm going to get this back in. So now my lawyer was like, man, you don't want to bring this. I said, shut up. I'm not even dealing with you no more. I filed a motion to the OPR on him, Office of Professional Responsibility, trying to get rid of him because he let them do this to me. You know, you sat there.

You asked the questions and let them tell you that it was me in the car. And you didn't challenge it. You know what I'm saying? You should have challenged it on record. Because of that, they shot this down. Okay, boom. My 2255 come. I break everything down.

I break down Robert Wilson, you know, them not believe in anything. They brought him in to testify against the importation. If the jury found me not guilty of importation, then where did I get the drugs from? You know, that was just simple. Where did I get the drugs from? Nobody else had an out-of-country player.

I just didn't understand how this happened. So I got some play on that. They allowed me to expound on it. So I did another motion. and then I broke down the bank statements. I said they sent me all of my transcripts. I was in Victorville now. This was 2011.

I'm fighting for my life. So I'm out Victorville. I don't have Linwood Gray no more, but I have Gamow. Gamow ain't that's legal. Like, he's smart now with legal work because I told him, but Gamagoo was just good at bringing up the feeling shit.

I had to learn how to stop, you know, motions with feeling and it don't win. So I'm filing them. motion and I'm telling him he's helping me but he's helped me with the stuff that you wouldn't pay attention to like corn why you ain't ever bring up the fact that it was no way you could be there you told him it wasn't you in the van you could prove it but he was at work you got letters man where your bank statements at so I wrote the bank I mean I wrote the bank and asked a bank of America to give me my bank statements I asked BB&T I had accounts with every

bank in the city BB&T Wachovie I mean anybody before they bought the company if it was an old bank I had a bank, I had 12 different bank accounts, you know, working as money. So they never gave me none of my bank statements because my bank statements could prove that I didn't launder the money. Right. I literally didn't. After 80, 90, remember I say 92, I never put another dime of drug money in the bank. There was no drug money in the United States.

That was all real estate. Because I started sending my money with their money. Right. You see what I'm saying? To Switzerland. Yeah, that's it. And so once I get to the Bahamas, Karema sit there for two days and then they get on the flight, they go to Switzerland.

All you could take, he might, the most he ever took. over there, they really don't touch them private flights. He might have took maybe two, two million at the time. Most of the time, I was sending $300, $400,000. It was worth it. Right, of course. And I gave him $5 grand for that trip. Right. Because this money that I never was going to touch, this money that I did need,

no lawyer money. I had them $300 to $3 million in each one of them storage units. So you got those bank statements and you submitted those with the next motion? Right, then let me tell you how. Get the bank statements, this is going to mess you up. It's a guy in the government. Thank you, Matthew,

Cutts. His name is Matthew Cuts, K-U-T-Z. He worked for the, my daughter he works there now. The IRS. He is the one that's in charge of their storage units. My case was so old now, getting old now, that they were

after seven years, you know, they started telling you, you got to come get the paperwork that they took. Now, this is the letter he sent me, I'm going to send you a copy of that to. It said, How are you, Mr. Day? I hope this letter finds you in good health, Blasey. we have 19 boxes of evidence that was taken from your house

from prosecutor Ladora Knight, who's no longer with us. We're trying to downsize. You have 45 days to come get this box, these boxes. How would you do that? I called Cedricle. You know what I'm saying? My best friend in the world. And I read the letter to him.

He said, where's that? It was in Baltimore. He went straight up there. He said when he got the boxes, He put him in the back of his, he had his range rover there. He put it in the back of his range rover. He shot home. First thing he did is open him up.

I'm like, he waited for me to call. I'm like, he texts me. Call me, call me. I got the box. I got the boxes. So when I call him, first thing you say is, we got him, brother. We got him. So I was like, man, what you mean?

Don't say this. You know, so I'm getting excited. Like, man, don't play with me like this, man. You know, so he's like, no, we got him. We got him, bro. He said, we got him. I said, what you mean? He said, dude, we got the check for your big house

at $204,000. We got that. We got the $6,96,000 you made off the Shopman Center. When you flip the Rosecroft Shopman Center, we got the $3.2 million you made off of that. He said, now the government was saying all of these properties, I had a 32 unit and a 36 unit building. I was pulling down, I was charging,

I think the rent was like $1,500. The median rent was $1,500 on both of them building. So make a long story short I was making $40,000 off of one and close to 50 or the other one because a month, a month, each month. This is Section 8 money. I own these buildings cash money.

I own them cash. Now, how I did do the laundering, which if they wanted to really know, because they're stupid. Every property I fixed up, I never wrote a check to any vendors. Paying our cash. If I needed wood, cash,

bring in my receipt. That's how it's done. Right. Okay. So you got, but those, in the boxes of evidence, those, that's proof that it was not laundered. Yeah.

That money sitting in the banks was from real estate. Yeah. I never touched it. Okay. So this, I mean, first, it just seems absurd that, it just seems absurd that you couldn't have presented that at trial. You know what I mean? But they wouldn't Bank of America would not,

they took all my bank statements. Right. And when my wife went in there, they treated her like a fucking pariah, man. It was like, they wouldn't give it to nobody. I'll show you. The letters, I was literally crying to the officer, please make Bank of America, but the government was telling them, don't give them, don't give them nothing, the door night.

So they finally read it on her. Right. So, of course, they read it on the U.S. attorney. Yes, everybody did. Just like Matthew Cuts did. He didn't have to say, she told us to hold this evidence, this evidence until the disposition of your case. This is exculpatory evidence. That's illegal.

You violated Brady. No, that's an illegal. That's like a, for people just to break that down in simple terms, like in a state case, right? We've seen this now a lot with DNA. Say it's a murder case. Right. Somebody will be on trial, the defendant, the prosecutor will actually have evidence, DNA evidence, usually that would exonerate the defendant. That's right.

And then they'll just withhold it. That's what they did. That's illegal. And it's illegal. That you violate Brady. Yeah. That right there. The Brady Act.

That's what got me back. Wow. And what year was that? I got my first win and 14. That's when Matthew Cuts told me about that. By 16, they had took me out of the pen. They didn't even tell me my – because by this – the first seven years I was messing up.

I was pushing the knife. I was doing stuff. I can't speak on all of them, but I will give you paperwork to shots and let you put them up there because you'll see, like I was – I was busting a house. I was doing some wild shit. But when that came through, you were probably like, I'm done. I actually was starting a program.

You know what I'm saying? It's always convenient. Yeah, I took like 100-something programs. So I'm doing like, I'm doing what you call it, a body composition. I lost like 100. I did the biggest loser. I lost 100 pounds, you know what I'm saying?

So I'm doing everything. So now all of it, everybody in every jail and I'm going to love me. But where I hit gold at at Macquarie, they sent me to Bloody, first they sent me to Big Sandy. They had a care level two. I need a care level three. You already know that's, they don't play with that. Stayed in the shoe there.

They got me there. I was going to go on a yard, but they said they don't need you going on the yard because we got to ship you. The care levels messed up. So I was like, damn, can I go out there with the home? They say, no, because if something happened to you, you can sue us. Right. So they kept me back there.

I'm like, damn, you're going to send me to another dangerous joint. Macquarie just as bad as Big Sandy, which it was. So two weeks later, I was in Big Sandy. There was two and a half hour ride. And you've already filed all of this. Yeah, I filed all of your. I filed all, everything that I was filing that was killing them. Right.

I did at Victorville. You know what I'm saying? Because out there, we stayed locked down so much. There's nothing to do. You know, yeah. When the deuce's went off, you was going down, somebody died. They didn't, you didn't just stab somebody and let them get away. When them boys hit somebody out, California, you're dying.

Yeah. Yeah. And the white boys? Right. Of course. All that talking, yeah, they gangster. Yeah. I ain't never seen nobody bad as them other than, they talk about us.

Nah, we respect the, the white boys, the dirty white boys, the area nation, brother. For sure. Right. In jail? Yeah. So. They bought that work.

So, 20, so go ahead. Finish out. So, yeah. So when I get that play, they decide to send me to a lower custody. You see what I'm saying?

But before they could send me anywhere from California, they had to send me to Macquarie. So when I get to Macquarie, I run back into Gamagoo. He's back there when they, I think they wanted me to kill somebody with him. Because Gamagore,

I'm going to kill one of our friends there. I didn't have nothing do with that. I told him I'm not going with him. But that's another story. But so when I got there, I was trying to be good. So I met Dr. Bingle. He's a psychologist. So I explained to him my case.

He made me go sit down with me and sat down with the warden. And he told the warden, he said, I read his paperwork. I'm telling you he's innocent. And now, he said, of the charges that he's convicted of, he's innocent and the government did this that just so Dr. Bingle started helping me too

and he was writing letters for me on my behalf I'm sending my letters in with my motions to the judge and then the warden actually gave me a letter you know telling them oh all of my all of my it's amazing all of the wardens from every penitentiary

I went to even the ones I fucked up in because I came back and did right before I left right and they all wrote letters of recommendation that the judge and it's sad though that they were, you know because in a way that was cowardice because a warden can let you go.

Is that right? A warden can literally If a warden feels that you're innocent or you did, like I say, I'm going to show you how it's a case but a lady got raped in prison. You know, it was a melee. The whole unit raped her.

A dude, the Spanish guy came in stabbed a few guys, got him off the lady. close the door, put his foot behind the door, and just waited until the cops came. The warden let him out of prison. The warden can, the warden has the same amount of power as a judge. Wow. I've never heard that.

I had no idea. And anybody tell you anything that you look it up. A warden can literally let you free, but they wouldn't do it. They always told me you're the worst type of person. You know what I'm saying? We don't never want nobody innocent in here. Right.

So they allow me to work more than one job. They allow me to do things where I can get more. time out to sale. So I would be always in the law library. But when I won that particular instance, when I was out, Macquarie, this would make this motion different. At this time, the CARES Act,

they was trying to come up with the CARES Act, but they had already did the Fair Sentencing Act, the two-point reduction. Then they did, and Barack Obama did another two. It didn't help me because I had life. You're doing life, right. Yeah, and they had 851 enhance me. And the enhancement, that means that's what Bill Clinton did

with the free trade agreement we talked about in Part 1, the North American Free Trade Agreement. He made it so I don't give it to him if you was locked up. You had a felony for selling pizzas out of a grocery store. If it was enough where it was a felony and a drug charge, when you caught discharge, you get in life. There was no median. So I started challenging that because one of the charges they charged me with

no longer qualified as a predicate offense, the weed charge. it no longer qualified. You know what I'm saying? So I knew that I could give the life back. But I said if I go for it, what the fuck I'm going to do with the 90? Right. You know, so with the bank statements,

I was able to prove that they were lying about the money laundering. So when I got the bank statements, I just lined up like every month. I had every bank statement that I ever lined up. I had them in boxes. You know, I keep very good records. So soon as I sent them in, dude,

I think they gave me the grain slips saying they received, did just say on the 10th? By the 17th, this was 2016, they vacated my sentence, but told me that, you know, they said they were going to give me play, they're going to vacate it, but he didn't know how much.

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Now, he was thinking he was going to re-sentence me. But once they told me that I was like, cool, I was in the middle of getting out of the challenge program. I had graduated. Then I had been a mentor there. He was only supposed to be a mentor for like maybe 30, 60 days. Then you're supposed to transfer. I finished the challenge program.

It was a year program, cognitive thinking, drug rehabilitation. So I finished it in 11 months. I was supposed to be gone in like three more. I was a mentor in the Chimes program for like two years, dude. They kept me there for another two years because they wouldn't let me go. What was the holdup? Well, the holdup was, they knew I was about to get out of jail. They wanted me to stay there in the penitentiary, but I didn't want to.

Because people, you know, they were starting back to kill again. Now I'm out of the drug game. Wait, I don't get it, though. So the vacating of the sentence, how long do they have to rectify it? Well, when they vacated, they got to give the government a chance to give their cry about it. Oh, we're mad because he was, every time they said he was going to vacate it

for the drug charges, they kept saying, but he had a massive money laundering. He didn't, bank statements, faggot? He's talking about it. The hell. He didn't laundering the head with a bag. Right.

So they just kept saying it. You'll see, even in my appeal when I came home, they weren't even talking about the drugs anymore because cocaine ate nothing. We got fentanyl. We got heroin. There's so many terrible drugs out here now. Meth.

All of this shit was way worth. first and crack now. They mad about that shit. So they're giving me, they, they, oh, no, you know, he can't get back

because of this. So this went on for two years. Yeah, went on for two more years. Now. Now, we're in 2018. Now, 2018. I was about,

I thought I was about to go then. My name came up in another case. Oh, my God. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't in jail. It was an old case. My lawyer said,

let me look in it. Your name is ringing. And they're thinking about calling you back. I said, I'm not going back to court. So it don't mind. or whoever going through something telling me out of it, go meet with him.

Come to find out a guy from way back a young boy that I raised in the game. When I was 19, he probably four years younger than me. He was 50s. This little dude, he was a friend of mine that worked in a barbershop with me named Anthony Hill. It was his little brother.

Anthony Hill was good dude. He can cut hair. You know, man Hill was real close, but it was kind of like a fuck-up. You know what I'm saying? If you give him something for $3,000, he might bring you two. Then you'll give him something

to make up the thousand. He might give you that money plus five more, but you ain't gonna never get all your money out of them. You didn't deal with dudes like, they're gonna run up, but he's just gonna fuck up. So I stopped messing with his little brother. His little brother was just like me. He was a genius.

If I gave this motherfucker an eighth, you know what I'm saying? He's gonna come back in 20s with every dime he made off. I gave him an ape one time. He said, I'm gonna try to make $12,600. I said, why? because it's 126 grams in the eighth.

I'm supposed to make $100 off it. He did it. He took it down to like a apartment in Maryland where you can sell Coke for way more. And he did it. So this guy, after I got locked up, he's the one I sold 6323 as a house. That Rufus, the house that was on Rufus ID,

this is so crazy. Daryl bought that house from me. At first he was going to be a straw buy, like a quick claim bag. Right, right. But he needed a house. So he was like, man, they got money. I was proud of him because I had started giving this young bull.

When he was 15, he was like me, I was giving him 10 bricks a hard. Wow. I was giving him 10 straight bricks of hard. 15 years old. Yeah, he was 15. But the boy was a genius. Show you how much of a genius he was. You look this up too.

He just turned bad, which is why my name came up in his case in 18. Yeah. He couldn't get me in trouble because the case was old. You know, statute of limitation. But in catching his case, he started cooperating against these guys named a guy named Twin and another friend of mine named Lotto.

He didn't know anything about Lotto. I found out about him snitching because when I was down for a Dix waiting to come home, Lotto get off the bus. Now at this time, COVID is right before COVID, but we was hearing about it. As a life, I wasn't allowing nobody off the bus

to come into the unit because I didn't want to catch that shit. So we would go down there and the police was allowing me to do it because they didn't want nobody off the bus either. Right. They didn't want to catch COVID. This shit was killing people. You know what I'm saying? So when Lotto came, I was like, the only one can come off

because I know he was just at that last spot with me. He ain't got nothing. It's him. So the cop was like, Jazzy Faye. Like, man, we can't do that. I was like, nah, let them in. So they let Lotto in. I got cell phones and all that.

So we started working together. We started getting stuff in. But Lotto said, man, what's your whole name? George. Your name ain't George Day. Cornelius Day? I was like, yeah, like, what's up? You know?

He was like, nah. Slim, you on my case. I said, what you mean? You just coming in? He said, nah, man. You know a dude named Fat Daryl? So I thought about. I said, Daryl Hill? I said, yeah, that's my young boy. He?

Yeah, Shardy got locked up with 50 keys in his house. Had 50 keys of powder coat. Wow. $250-something thousand dollars in cash. He had one of them T.I. Rooms. Total idiot. I don't know where he'd get this from. He had to use his thumb.

He's the only one can get in there. His dogs are in there. He got dog cages with the dogs in there. He got safes with money, you know, the money. Then he got the big chest with the keys in it. So he's getting locked up telling on twin of them, you know, from D.C., he's telling on them that he's doing what everybody was trying to get me to do. He'd get locked up because he's getting all of this cocaine.

But instead of whipping it, he don't know how to whip. I never showed him that. He started taking a cord of key out and putting the no taste, no smell from Miami. in there. So he can sell the keys for 20 a pop and take the other quarter and sell it for a six so he can make him

more money or, you know. So he's telling them in his case about how much Coke I was giving to him. Way back in the day. Yeah. So, you know, anytime your name is mentioned

in the system in that, I forgot what it's called, you know, the court system. It's an alert to your last attorney. Right, right. So he was telling me your name popping up. Okay.

So Jeremy Kamez at the time was like, nah, man, I think you okay. he's just a guy snitching. But he's saying you used to give him, you know, 10 keys of this and 10 keys. And I said, for real, he said, yeah, you must have told him pretty good. He got caught with 50 bricks. I said, damn, sure.

You know, I was kind of proud, though. But I was mad that he was telling, man. Okay, so did that affect? No. And he'll be up for a minute. But my lawyer said, we were going to wait to see what happened. So he talked to the prosecutor in that case. They said, no, they were just using George for background,

but we thought we was going to have to, I don't know what they thought they was going to do. if he was saying, if 20 if they were going to go ahead and went to trial, I guess they was going to call me in the boaster. Because he was young. They didn't believe that, you know, this young boy that was in his early 20s now, about now, early, early to mid-20s now,

is selling this kind of Coke, this kind of work, you know what I'm saying? So they're going to call me in. I'm not going to go in there and say shit. So I'm glad they didn't, but they didn't do it. So after that, 19 came. So it's 2019. Yeah, 2019.

They didn't ship me from six months ago. They didn't ship me from when I left Macquarie. They shipped me to Hazleton, FCI. So I understand, man, when I got here, it was game changer. You know, because in the pen, you had to sneak to do everything. Right. But you could never see your people in the pen. It's like a pentagon.

The jail shape like this. Everything is in the middle. The actual building is the wall. there's no hope of you escape in this place. You know, somebody has to let you out. You'll get shot. So he would, I mean, I was in there. So they shipped me to Hazleton.

When I get to Hazleton, as I'm getting off the bus, I notice it's shaped. First of all, I've never been to, every prison I've been to was one level. You walk in on the main level, but then, you know, you got the upstairs in the unit. So it's always 128 beds. 64 sales, 32 on the top,

32 on the bottom. Bill Clinton. Why are you still in prison? Okay, let me tell you. Just get to this. How long do they have to keep bullshitting like this after they vacated your sentence? There's got to be on the statute. There's got to be a time limit for how long they can keep dragging your sentence.

They drugged me all together for five years in like two months. Okay. Tell us about how you got out. Okay. Now, this is what happened. When I got to four dicks, I was like, all right, fuck this. You know, the law libraries right downstairs. I never have to work.

I never have to work to get down to the law library, try to beg a cop to let me. I'm going right downstairs to the law computer. So I'm studying looking up cases. Grave it comes out. There's another case that's supposed to settle for a step act. Because they came with this grand thing that was going to stop the 101 ratio.

But then Barack Obama fails short because instead of making it a one-to-one, this jerk made it 18 to 1. It's like, what are you doing? He's a house, you know what? And that big tall basketball playing chick, man. He killed his, uh, he killed his, uh, Butler. Yeah, come on, man.

He's no good, dude. I've never in my, I said, dude, I was 100% right. Yeah. This dude told whoever it was at the clerk office, I filed for the, um, I filed for clemacy. Then I filed for a pardon. I was like, man, once he see this, he got to let me go. I got the bank statement to show they lied.

Right. You know, I got everything to show that they lied and that things was... By the way, are you collecting rent from your properties? Yeah, I'm doing all right. My kids, they're doing good, man. They're good. Yeah, they were all the way good. So you're making, like, millions of dollars in collected rent as your...

They can't do nothing. Wow. Can't do nothing with it. Which you don't want for anything. No, I don't want for nothing. Now, they'll keep it or believe it or not, I never even really touched any of that money. Cedric, best friend in the world, man. And Senator Carl took care of me my whole bit, man.

He would lie to me and tell me he going to grab some money that he never did. He always took money out of his own pocket. Even now when I came home, man. It's amazing that they couldn't seize your properties, even though you're in prison for life because of money laundering supposedly from your properties. Right. Why were they not able to do that? Well, because the first thing in 2016, the first thing that got knocked off was the money laundering charges.

I got you just in there for the distribution. Right. Because remember, I got the bank statements down. When I pushed that in, remember I told you, I got back on one thing. Everything else they shot down. It was the money line. So the 90 years was gone. Right.

So everybody was like, damn, you gave back. But I got the life. So you have a life sentence. Right. So now what happened with that? Now I'm only, I'm beating that down because I'm really trying to go for the kids out now because I'm not thinking they're going to give me no rhythm from the first step back. So now you're essentially not going for a vacating distribution sentence.

You're going for essentially like a mercy. A mercy. Yeah, man. I'm dying in here, man. I got acute bronchial asthma. Right. If COVID, now, at this time, Fort Dix, number one, baby. I got those two.

I'm going to send you. I showed them when we was like number three, number four. What does that mean? We were number one in cases. Fort Dix was one of the biggest yards for Chomots. Right. Chomo, that's the one thing I hated about being there, but the freedom was just worth it.

Right. They surround guys like me. That's why life is not supposed to go to lows. You know, when I first got there, I was throwing cold water on these dudes in the shower. You know, you see their cases. I look their cases up. They, you know, didn't let little babies and stuff.

Of course. You know, I treat them like shit. But anyway, I started ignoring them. I used to make them tell me their story. At night, we used to do a nighttime story. So I would bring a new chomo in the unit in the room. And we would just fucking ridiculed this. Well, tell the truth, you mother.

You know, like. Just humiliation rituals? That's sick. I love it. I used to tell people. And I said, they said, man, you used to teach a child's program. Why would you do this? I said this was part of the child's program.

We called you a loser. We told you was a junkie. You don't want to be nothing. I said, I have to make it bad for you so that you don't go out here and try to fuck my kid, man. You know what I'm saying?

I really, because I understood I didn't like kill him. I didn't do nothing like that. I didn't stab him. I didn't do any bodily harm. But I did throw like 190 on them. I did that day in the shower. They ain't going to burn them that bad.

You know. Oh, you throw hot water on? Yeah. And cold. Yeah. Anytime if I was upset. Yeah. It's like you're talking to like about a rabid dog

or something. On a yard, both sides. That's insane. It's the biggest federal, like, low, like the hos and type. 4,400, 25 to 2,900 are choma. So you could get away with anything because they're all choma. And the cops don't give a, you know. But they're on this yard.

They have this wonderful, beautiful yard, dude. Right. And people like me are not allowed to come here because we do shit like this. So by the time I've stopped doing all that, I make them come in still every night. And until the day I left, they would do it as a ritual. They loved me. Like after a while it was like, this is your time to be like,

it was a 15 minutes of fame, you know. So it's the CARES Act. The CARES Act. That's the bullet and the gun. Yeah, I gave up on the first step back for a second because it just seemed like I gave them all the law. But my lawyer was like, man, Jeremy was like, well, I didn't have Germany at first.

I had this, his underling. Pratt. Oh, God, she was terrible. Her last name was Pratt. I'm going to get her. Anyway, she. she just wouldn't understand she was one of those scared trying i don't want to waste the time of the court george i would rather it's win on this because maybe you'll just have five more years instead of

no i want to go home file this they got to let me george you had too much cocaine it wasn't about the cocaine miss pratt it wasn't about the cocaine it's about the statute it didn't say but you but you got to remember you had money laundering too you had um conspiracy to money laundering too you still had the 20 from that even if they let you back you still got to serve the whole 20 i said No, I don't. Because she made me go up to her arguing with me about that. Francis Pratt. She was my first lawyer.

You said on my paperwork. I fired her. I wrote the judge and I told him, I said, the reason why I want her gone and this is the bullet that got him. She keeps thinking like every other lawyer at the time. Nobody would take it. I meant to tell you, to get those cases done was $1,500 bucks flat. Nothing.

Yeah, we had jail lawyers on the court links that was sending us. 1500, we guaranteeing you, you get your, your name, they was doing it. 1500, they filed a two-page motion. Yes, it was out of there. Right. But when none of them understood was those guys were small time, Kingpins weren't getting out on this.

The reason why I got out, because king pens are always charged across the board. So the only thing that they thought that they could reset your sentence on with the CARES Act and the first step back I mean was crack charges. One word, dude. And this is what I'm trying to tell you. All of these million-dollar hour lawyers and all of this,

none of them was listening. When a judge imposes, if I impose on you, it would have been like you and John sitting here chilling and I just bust in the room. That's something new, right? I'm doing something that's outside of your norm, right? So I had to explain to them that when Congress gave the judges, this is when I came up with this in 19,

the power to impose a new sentence. When you impose, I looked up the definition, is to do something anew. So the problem with me getting back on time was they couldn't calculate my time because I had life. You don't get good time on that. They said you can't get it

because the only way you could get it, you had to have the first, first step act, not first step back, the CARES Act and the first one, the Fair Sentencing Act, you can get the two full points off, but, you know, you have to have, it has to go retroactive. But this is why they were scared.

This is what was holding it up. I had already argued that when a judge, when Congress gave them the right to impose a new sentence, it's doing something new. So that means if I got to, you have to sentence me to the laws of today. It's not a continuation of my old sentence. Now, they were saying, oh, it's a long stretch,

but it really wasn't. Think about it. Impose. It's, oh, my bad, impose, it's something new. So, Johnny, as soon as I sent it in, my judge was like, okay, I'm going to give you a sentence, a break, but we don't know, we still may have to give you a date.

My first release date, I sent you that, was November. And it's funny, it was 1121, right? 1121, 22. The code on my phone that I had, the police that came in there and raided out block and found one of my main phones. So the code on the phone that I bought from the Italian guy from up New York, they were some, I'm like trying to get to him on here for you. They were some killer of bank robbers.

They weren't robbers, though. They broke in the bank after they closed. Oh, they was amazing. I got to tell you about Chris. What's up, Chris, man. Chris Kerrigan, man. But he was an amazing dude, man. I loved him.

He was my bunky right beside me. All right, let's go. Anyway, watch this. He, um, I showed them that the, when you impose something, it's a new. So the judge agreed with me totally. But they didn't know what they was going to do.

The problem was they were scared that it was going to create a landslide. Right. And the floodgate of people coming in it did. So now, they tried to make a day. They said, well, look, we'll, we'll give you a cop. You know, now, I'm not taking a cop. We'll let you go in November to 20, November to 21st, 2022.

Now, you got to remember, it's 29th time. I'm like, hell, no, I ain't doing three. I'm not doing three more year. I'm going home. Wow. Give me the law. Yeah. So I told my lawyer, I said, Jim, by this time I fired Francis Pratt.

And I told her, I told the judge, man, I mean, can you give me another, a lawyer out of her office. She was cool or everything else. She just won't listen to me. Soon as Jeremy came and took my case, he looked at it. Jeremy was such a good lawyer, man. I used to call Jeremy, act like I was on a uniform.

I used to put stars and six. Hold on. This is too good. I got too many cliffhangers. I would call him on the cell phone instead of the phone downstairs. And he'd be like, man, the number is 3650. It's 499-3650. I was getting to something.

It's 202. He said, man, this ain't the damn number you're supposed to be calling me. I said, you don't want to know, Jeremy. So we're talking. So Jeremy finally tells me, boom. George, we got him. He said, I don't know how you did this

and I don't know how I didn't see it. He said one word. He looked up the word and posed. He found the definition that Congress itself intended when they used it. And I was right, dude. So he put the last motion

in, it was a motion to reconsider or the, and you know, you never get these. If a judge gives you a release date, take the shit and go. Right. I was like, nah, man, he said, we got a 1%. He said, you're right. You're going to go home in 22.

The government's challenging it right now, but the judge is not going to go back on that. You got that. But if we win this, man, we go down in history. So I was like, man, I don't care about none of that. Just file that shit. I think we're going to get it. Dude, he filed it for the next, like,

I'm going to say for the next two weeks, dude, I was around that motherfucker. I wouldn't do nothing. I'm talking about I can't sleep. Yeah, yeah. I'm giving away my shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got, I have a, now I couldn't relax.

So, of course, I'm smoking weed. I'm drinking liquor. I'm saying, I'm on the phone all day. You know what I'm saying? Just like trying to pass time because I know I'm going. So my, my, um, I get the call. My mom got sick. Remember, she passed right before they let me go.

So November the 15th. I'm like, shit. You know, 14 from them. She got to the hospital. So I called my sister. I'm like, man, she's all right. You know, I called. She's like, man, she's right here.

So I mean, FaceTime. I'm looking at my mom on the phone. I'm like, hey, girl, what's up, pretty girl? You're going to scare me like that? She was in there for congestive heart failure. You know, my brother wasn't going there and taking her. You know, I used to go down the country every weekend and walk my mom. We would walk two miles.

She didn't got old now. She had in the 70s. Yeah. So she didn't got so big, man, you know. So, and I'm still sending her, Like I got this, the fund set up, a trust fund, but she was getting $2,000 a month. She never needed it more than that. You know, my mom, house paid off cop in a month, but she must just be eating this shit.

She ain't doing it, sitting in the house, eating, buying, you know. Right. So she didn't get so big. November the 15th, I mean, 14 comes. She in the hospital. I talked to her on the phone. I tell my sister, take a picture. She was doing her head.

I said, take a picture. She supposed to come home the next day, you know, go home with her husband. So Nali said, I'm going to take a picture. I said, when you finish her, take a picture. I said, don't forget that. I just had a funny feeling, man. she was combing her head on the phone. I said, I love you, big girl.

So she was like, all right, so she had the little tube in her mouth, so she couldn't talk. I said, take that thing out your mouth. I said, you ain't supposed to be doing that anyway. My father been dead. She said, you better watch your mouth. I'll be putting that in my mouth, you know, talking to the trash. So I get out of the phone with her.

I was off the phone five minutes. I called right back. Something just told me. I said, Mom, I'm about to take a picture. No, no, I ain't fair. I said, Ma, take the tube out of you now. Nobody wants to see that nasty shit. I said, nobody wants to see your work.

I said, take that shit out your mouth and let me take a picture of you pretty girl. So my sister had her head. She was laid back on the bed. She had her hair laid back over the pillows. I got the picture. Took the picture. My mother, I said, you better smile.

She was like, no, I want you to wait. I said, nah, now I'm going to forget. So at the last minute, she's so conceited. I said, come on, smile for me, white girl. So right as soon as I said that she smiled, I took the picture. Last time I seen my mother alive. She died 3 o'clock in the morning.

That morning I jumped up. I can show you the text message. My sister kept it. I said, I took pictures all. this for you. I sent her, I said, check on mom. It was like 303. My mother died at 3 o'clock in the morning. Oh, God, man. I'm so sorry. I pulled my phone out the wall. She passed. So did she know that you were, had a good chance of coming home now? I told her on the phone. I said, mom, it gave me a date of 2022. Wow. She's like, you're coming home. So I didn't want to get happy.

At least she knew that. At least she knew that. She kept saying, yeah, because she was always telling me, I don't know if I'm going to make it. So long story short, seven days later, her husband was all oppressed, you know what I'm saying? My sister and was mad at him, but he wanted to go here and put her on the ground. So 11-22,

they buried her, you know, November the 22nd. So I'm, of course, I'm distraught, man. I'm around there now.

I'm going back to torture and chomoles, you know what I'm saying? I'm sorry to backslid, man, fuck, man. You know, and your mother's memories. Yeah,

and your mother's honor. Yeah, but I'm doing this for you, mom. Yeah. It was a fuck shit, man, but,

you know, but, I mean, you know, they understood. So, you know, I got over about two days before I repented. I kind of did a little however you apologize to Chomot's and put your hand on the head and then kick him in the ass. So I was like, man, get the fuck on, you know.

But, you know, I apologize. But anyway, so the big day coming. So 22nd, she passed. The police came up on the floor. This was big. Jazzy Faye said, man, you know, you told the captain, you know, they caught up here. They told us your mom died, man.

The day is a funeral. You know, we know you weren't able to go. If you want to, I'm not saying you got to divorce. vice or anything. But this is the police, man. Them guards are not bad in them loads. I'm going to say that.

Even in the pen. He was like, we're not coming in the building. We're not letting the search crew come. Because, you know, four dicks got jump-all crews for the phone. They got a box that tell them when the people. It's three, four hundred phones in the building, man.

That's the fuck. Everybody in their mother got a phone, you know. So I'm on the phone watching the funeral and all that. I speak at the funeral and all that. I got the video of that. You know, everybody crying. So that's November the 22nd. Eight more days ago.

Like, I'm walking through him, I'm going crazy. Right. I'm going out to the counselors I'm talking. Finally, I get a hit back. Boom. It was, I know, it was December the 6th. And whatever day that was, the next four days was horrible. I get the call.

Jeremy is to the point now. He's not even planning to call me on the, you know, the jail phone. Right. He called it straight to my cell phone. So what's up? George, man. He's crying, man, we fucking did it, dude. We did it, this is my lawyer.

Jeremy Kamis is the most gangster Jeremy Kamis, man. So he took that argument to who? Yes, he took it straight to my sentencing judge. Right. And he told him, man, there's no way you know when the judge, he said, this man, this case, Your Honor, don't forget, he's giving you guys back your power. Because if you have to understand, this is what the government was stalling.

They kept stalling. And when I show you the things they were saying, When you show it to the people, they're going to be mad. You're going to get a million, 100 million views on this, man, because they were only mad because it was going to create a flood gate. But you should have let me go at first. Right. So by doing this, now if you had crack on your case, but you had a murder,

the judge can say, okay, for the crack case, I'm going to sentence you to, you did 25. I'm going to sentence you to, on today's time, you would have got 15 years. Now, if you got 15 years, for this because he did something new when he imposed in his sentence, that gun charge ain't strict no more. Right. Because if you only got this much time for this, whatever you got back from now, he got to

sentence you a new. So that is under the new, what act is that? First step. That's under the first step. My motion tied them both together. I was the only one in the federal system who made their motion. I did two things that was so different and was ingenious that that's why all of the judges love me.

And anytime I speak of somebody hearing, they let them out of prison. Because they don't ever go back to jail either. Wow. It's because, well, it only made it so the prosecutor couldn't force the judges to give life. My judge retired after he gave me that life sentence. He went on the news. He didn't deserve a life sentence. He didn't have a gun in his case.

Right. You know, I didn't have any violence, none whatsoever. But I had life plus 90 years. But I'm telling the judge, I'm in here with child molestessus, that made their two nephew and niece. Okay, so dial it in. So you essentially just got resentenced. It's not like you got anything overturned.

Yeah. And so you were given technically time served? Yeah, I was given. First, I was giving time served after the 11, 21, 2021, 22. I filed even, I challenged that because I said, if you're going to do that, then you gave me a release date. Give me my good time. Ah. How much good time do you get on 20?

Right. Yeah, 15%, 16, 18, yeah. Yeah, 15%. So I was way over. Right. The government got one last stab at me. They asked it that day. He put in my motion first thing in the morning for reconsideration.

Dude, look it up. If you look up reconsideration on a sentence that you got re-sentence for, nobody ever get. You don't get it. It's over with it. You got rescinders. Shut the hell up. Go home. the judge read my motion

and you know the way we put it the way Jeremy explained it the way I told him to explain it is just imagine this is what happened imagine making a mistake you know I said I sold cocaine

I admitted all this stuff now I imported cocaine I did all of these things you're forgiving me you're saying I had no violence I had nothing but because of this money line in charge

just 90 years you know I gave away 70 of it Now I got the 20. I still had the conspiracy. Remember the conspiracy that committed money laundering. Currie's 20. They gave me the max for everything. The judge just ruled that not one now,

but the only two predicate offenses, one day, now they know that was my brothers. It was his charge all along. It wasn't even under my name. They had to take that off. So I definitely would have got less time. I would have 10 years. Right, right.

Now they have the, the charge with the not the not the 42 rocks but the other little small charge i had caught that was my other brother charge the weed charge that's gone the judge granted we put it it reached his office at they said on the paper like 950 something at 1 o'clock p.m that same day he vacated my sentence and released me and there's nothing the government can do after that Because you, it's, it was over. Wow. But that was on the sixth.

I didn't get out of prison until the 10th. Let me tell you what they did just to fuck me over. They wanted me to, they knew that I was in there doing stuff to people. People were dropping notes, but they wasn't getting no further. So they sent my paperwork to a Maryland, because I lived in Maryland. I was moving back to Maryland in one of my old houses with my, with the family member, one of my cousins, ex-wife that molested me when I was a kid. That was something different.

I had to move in with her because she was the only one in my family that I could consider the family that they considered a family that didn't have a gun. You know, everybody in my family has gun registered to their house, you know, so I couldn't stay with my girl

at the time. I couldn't stay with nobody because they had guns. So I was, I was waiting. So they sent, then in order to make it even longer, I got approved to go to her house.

I would have stayed anywhere. I just wanted to go to a halfway house. So, and they didn't want to sit. me the one because like I said I want to put to have papers but the government was arguing that I get 10 years papers so in this four days all of this happened they filed that I get 10 years papers the judge said he's going to agree just to keep the paperwork on but he already told me I knew what to do so I'm got to how to fight that when I get home I agree to it okay give me 10 years they sent my paperwork to Maryland knowing even though I'm going to live in Maryland eventually

it has to come no they sent it to Virginia I'm sorry they sent to Virginia they sent the because my case was caught in Virginia, but I didn't live in Virginia. So I was about to walk out to jail. They was going to put a warrant back on me and lock me back up and they were to hail me for another 60 days until they cleared it out.

They were going to say, I escaped prison. But this would stop it. I've seen the paper. I said, hold up. How y'all got me going to see a probation officer in Virginia? I knew that was illegal. I said, I was charged there, but I live in Maryland.

So it took them two more days from the eighth to the tenth. They got that right. My probation officer called and said, if y'all don't get them out of there now, we're going to have to pay them on a dead on a dead time lock right how many how much it would have been a thousand dollars a minute for every minute thousand dollars a minute i would have stayed in there trez van oh they wouldn't let me trust the city of tamper i was ready to sock one of them chowel wow wow yeah it was it's trans van versus the city of uh tampa but i know all of the numbers

it's um it was 1,440 minutes in a day so that would have been a million god 1 million 440 thousand a day oh so they're like get them out Get about. Yeah, so they got me out. See, this is where they messed up on that. They let me out. And remember that old 2255 that I put in that they never, they shot down my direct, but they never answered the 2255 because they kept me on papers

and I was still suffering under the sentence. They had to answer it. But the police officer did it affect the case with him lying and sand it. I was in the car with the Supreme Court said, yeah. So what does that mean? So now I filed for a certificate of innocence. We're waiting on that now. I can sue the government now.

I was just going to ask you that. So many people should be getting sued. Yeah. And people didn't understand that you can't sue the federal government, you know, just outright because of the, you can't sue the federal government outright because of the implied immunity. Right. But the only way you can get around that is if it was done. Like if they just did something flagrant in trial, eh, there ain't nothing you can do about that.

They can give you some less time or give you credit if you. you ever get locked up again. But when they intentionally do stuff like when they hear my bank statements, Matthew Cuts would have testified that she did tell him that he put it in the letter to hold my exculpatory evidence until the disposition of my case. She broke the law. So now that's what we're dealing on. So you came home December of 2019.

December the 20th and 2020. Wait, what? Yeah. Damn it. These fucking dates. Yeah, December the 20. We're all thinking it's 2019. No, 2020.

Okay. They drag. I told you. I fought all of this shit out for damn near a whole year from like September or something 19 all away. Oh, I'm sorry. September or something 19 all the way through December. My mom died in 2020, remember November?

I see. All right. So they drugged me there. Okay. So you got a December 2020 and, but there's no, there was no parole. There's nothing like that. There was no paper. No.

No, they tried. Well, they tried. At the last minute, they made me sign that paper. And they put me on 10 years probation. Right. But when I came home, I didn't do none of it. So what I did was after about a year and a half, I got tired of it. I told you, I was like, baby, I'm about that.

You know, I'm ready to go get my passport. You know, you can't do that when you papers without our expert mission. Right. I told her, I'm getting my passport. She said, okay, my passport came back. You know, it can't come back until they get clearance from your probation officer. So she knew it, but they weren't telling me. And finally, two of my probation officers kicked me off of their case.

So it was the same thing like was happening in prison. Right. So the last one finally, Ms. Davis told me, George, you're being held on probation illegally. She said, if you send me a paper, I said, I already did. I said, you should probably get it tomorrow. So she got it like in the next day. No, why was it illegal to hold you on probation? Because I had no sentence to, you got me on probation.

You're making me check in. Right. It's like you're still watching. over me. I'm still locked up at something. But you've done every single. Every minute. You can't do anything. I have no, okay, now you have no time. Okay, if you do 10 years and they let you out five, then you got five years back in. But if you do, if you got 10 and you do 10, that's it. I'm at the door. I'm past the time. You kept me in jail four days longer than you was supposed to. Right. You see what I'm saying? So, and that's what happened, man. It's like,

once I got back on that, you know, it was nothing they can do. So they took me off of papers. So how long were you down for from the time to get arrested? From the time I got arrested, the true jail time. 16 years? It was 16 in the feds and two and a half in the county. Fighting it. Okay. Yeah, so just say about 19, but then when you add in the house arrest and all of the other stuff,

and shit was like almost 21 years, 22. Wow. Well, congratulations, man. After a long fucking Odyssey, wow. I just felt like I watched the craziest movie. I'm exhausted. So what are you suing for now? Like what kind of amount, what kind of damages are we talking?

Okay. Well, like I told you, it's 1,440 minutes in a day. And Trezran v. the city of Tampa. So that's the only case law that they have. That's the only, in Transvaan v. the city of Tampa, that's the only case law that they have that governs these things. Because nobody ever wins soon and suing the government except for people who got the money to do it or have the know-how.

but in my case, it's spelled out. You know, once they give me this, all I'm waiting on is my certificate of innocence. So what does that entitle you to? It entitles me to roughly 500 and something, at a million, 100, $1,440,000 a day. It's like $5.50 a year. They'll never get me that.

$550,000 a year. $5.50 million a year. You got to remember, it's $1,000 a minute. Yeah, see, but they're not going to. to give it to me. They'll kill me before they do that. But they have to offer you 10%. I'm going to take it. So you'll have, what are we talking?

It's a lot, bro. If you do 50 times 10 years, that's five. So it's 550 million a year times basically 18 years. I can try to sue them for like maybe 10 billion. So you might get it. So you might walk with like 100 million? Yeah, something closer. They're going to have to get me that. And what is that, how long

to turn that around? How long do they have to appeal that? Or how long does Does it take? Well, when I get that certificate in the innocence, the way the judge was talking, I'm going to walk straight through that. I think they're going to give me to 10%. I think they will too. They was offering me money like two years ago.

I got the paper. I'm going to show you that too. Oh, so they were trying to deal with you. They were trying to. 30, 40, 37. Million? Yeah. They was trying to.

And you turned it down. Oh, my God. George, you're a fucking gangster, bro. You got to think, man. I was seeing that in two months, like, on a good. Like after the first three years, I was broke when I had all the Coke. But after I could pay for the load when they first brought it to me, dude, you know, you don't need money.

Yeah, that's $22,250,000. I can tell you, the money that was old, every time I got $500, there was another $17.50 with it. That was theirs. So I'm still getting $1,500 to $500 off each one of those. All the time I couldn't do it. It could be weed. I could only put $250 on a pound of weed, you know what I'm saying?

you know what I'm saying so so you'll just wait them out and take your 100 million yeah when they give me my when they give me that certificate now they dragging their feet on the certificate of innocence because they have to go through every line but I checked off every box there's nothing they can do you have a lawyer I bet a lawyers chopping at the bit I had lawyers fighting over this shit when I was in prison yeah yeah Jeremy wanted to do it but he can't because he's a public he's a positive yeah yeah it's a confidential but yeah wow that was the coolest I'm going to come talk to you after that.

That was the coolest story I have ever heard in my entire life. Wow. It's all documented, man, you know. Well, I hope you keep taking care of yourself and, you know, lose some weight. Stick around for that money. I'm still doing it, man. I'm walking, walking, walking, doing this security thing, man. You know, I'm a director of security now.

So, you know, I'm working with a good guy, man. You know, we're getting some good contracts. So I make good money. And you're helping, you're helping inmates. So basically your case, where you were telling me, and we'll get out of here after this, your case, the one that Jeremy helped make, this is now case law? It's a landstone, yeah. It's a milestone.

So people are appealing their own cases based off of this case. Any first step, because my case was first step act in conjunction with the CARES Act. Right. Because both of the laws were laterally the same. Right. It's just one dealt with, you know, the reasons why you should let the crime go. And the other one dealt with the actual crime itself. So when I brought them together, they couldn't deny me.

You see what I'm saying? And I don't know why. I guess I just kept trying, man. You know, when you get locked up the way I did, man, you don't have anything else to do but fight. Well, I admire it because most people that have been down 17, 18 years, if they saw, oh, wow, I got a date. I just beat a life sentence. I can be out in three years. Most people would have just took it.

I was done, dude. Yeah. I was done. I was a lifer in Fort Dix. What am I doing there? Yeah, but you, I'm just saying it's admirable because you did have a date now. Yeah, I did. I just couldn't spend another.

Man, you know how it is. I wanted to be home, man. You know, my kids, I had promised everybody. My mom died. It was just too much hurt. It was time to let it go. Well, I think you've made, can you at least be proud that, wow, you saw this legacy that you've built and the money that you'll get. I mean, your kids will never have to follow.

in your footsteps. Nah, they won't, man. And I helped over 50, when I was in truck and 57, return to citizens, learn how to drive box, trucks, and rigs. And when I left the business, after, you know, I told you about the yellow freight when they filed bankruptcy. I got beat for 300 grand. In 18 months, I saved 357.

I had to pay out 320 something, and I did that. She watched me doing it. After I did it, dude, I couldn't afford. forward to keep myself going. So what I did is went into every one of the warehouses that I had relationships with. And my guys that were running, my returning citizen guys that were running,

I gave them the contracts. So you can bring some of them on too. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. Wow, George May. Incredible story. Thanks so much. You want to shout out D.C. one more time? Yeah, man. Shout out the homies, man. And all of the ones are just trying to come home. Gamma, all y'all, man. I'm going to get y'all out

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