The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - How A Florida Drug Trafficker Ran A Multi-State WEED EMPIRE & Became The South's HOTTEST New Rapper

Episode Date: January 5, 2025

Before Nino Breeze put out a hit single with Rick Ross and signed a massive record contract, he was a kid in the slums of St Petersburg, Florida. After serving time for burglaries he met a connect from Humboldt County California and quickly built a pot empire shipping up to 100 lbs at a time through the mail back home. After his business partner was busted and became an informant, the DEA and ATF raided Nino's home and he was sent to federal prison. Go Support Nino! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5hdJowXyDT6CIEAXXToqUt?si=_7eXHDgQQtSlmmuB06-tEQ IG: https://www.instagram.com/realninobreeze/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@realninobreeze?lang=en YouTube: @Realninobreeze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

So you were 14 when you started rapping. Why did the street shit get so out of control? Just me being broke my whole life and knowing how much stress and anxiety, how much pain come with that. The possibility of permanently removing that. That's a strong form of motivation. It'll make you put that route shit to the side. I kind of fell back from the music car making so much money in the streets.

That's when everything started taking off. With what? With emotion. I got caught a plug. When it came time for me to snap, I go out of myself and bring back a hundred. How would you bring 100 pounds back? The male. Nino Breeze is one of the hottest up-and-coming rap artists in America.

He just dropped a single that's going viral with Rick Ross, who signed him to his record label for a huge seven-figure contract. Nino was a longtime weed kingpin who grew up in the slums of St. Petersburg, Florida. He found his niche as a drug trafficker by shipping pounds of weed through the mail from Humboldt County to his home in southwest Florida. In 2018, he was arrested in a DEA sting that netted almost 300 pounds of weed and landed Nino in prison for almost six years. While he was down, he focused in hard on his rapping,

and by the time he hit the street, he was already buzzing in the Florida underground. Then Rick Ross heard one of his singles, jumped on the track, and the rest is history. Nino now travels the country opening up for Ross and promoting his new music. Make sure to go download him on Spotify right now and follow him on all socials.

I fuck with this man and his music, and I promise you will too. Nino Breeze, right here on The Connect with Johnny Mitchell. Once I ran across that plug, it felt like a nigger, bro, like damn, there was preting the money. I didn't know anybody else in my circle or in my city that had that going at that time. It was just easy to fly under the radar. I go to open the gate for him, to let them in, and then he grabbed me. And he starts saying, police, police, police.

And I started looking around, and these bitches jumping out of bushes, they come from behind cars, the police was airwell. I was charged with a 9-24C, which is using the gun, and the furtherments of drug trafficking offense. which carries five years to life. You must have thought your rap career was done. Definitely, definitely thought about it. That's when I see the lights behind me start to flash. And I didn't even think. I just hit it.

I was driving like my life depended on. Then I parked the car, popped out, closed the door, and I started running. And he pulls out a burner, shank. It's like six inches. And he passes it to me. And he goes, here, that's yours. Don't ever leave the cell block without this. He was the reason I made it out of that place alive.

So you're kind of next up. Most del. I said it's feeling like the number one drive pick out of Florida. And you just came home, basically. Like you're fresh off the streets. Yeah, yeah, pretty much fresh out. You know what I'm saying? You know, it took me a little while to catch my groove

or whatever you get familiar with the new ways, like the new looks, the new signs. But it's like once I caught it, you know. It's in me and I don't know, it's on the amount of time. So, you know. How long you've been rapping? It's a long time. I'm rapping for 18 years.

Wow. That's what it takes. right? Yeah, I mean, you know, it kind of, it could have popped off sooner, but, you know, a nigga really hands on with this shit. So, you know, a couple of tries and triage, a couple of roadblocks on the way. Well, plus now you have shit to rap about. Like, back in the day, rappers got on at 20.

You know, Snoop was 20 when the chronic came out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you know most of the street shit he's talking about is either hype or it's not very serious because you're a kid. You don't really have time to live all that shit. I feel like rappers now because of the internet, just like comedians, other entertainers, can get on later. Definitely. And you really live that shit you talk about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm seeing a lot of that. I feel like the rap game is just a big gangster party. I feel like I feel like I would cut out on cut from that clove. I feel like I can recognize it when I see it. And majority of these niggas that's on and talking that shit, at least the ones that I tune into. I could tell they the real thing. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Versus like when I was younger coming up. I mean, I feel like some of those dudes might have been in front of hood or might have been a little street, but I still feel like they were being groomed into being, you know, like superstar. Yeah. Versus nah, you getting this shit. You feel me and I blood raw, like, like round zero point live from the soil.

Like in real time almost. Niggas talking about what they did last week. They're not talking about shit. They're just like, like, like my little nigger, you're gonna tell you what he did that day right in over a rap song yeah well duh yeah and that's also they're kind of telling on themselves too i'm pretty sure prosecutors are using people's raps to yeah it's going on it's going on but yeah i what is it the drill rap that's like that's where everybody's killing themselves right you got so many like different varieties of this shit you got

motion music you feel me you got trap music drill rap of course are you is your music trap music would you consider that trap I mean, that's a bag I could get into. That's a bag I can get into. But, like, I ain't going to lie, though. I don't even got no... Niche. I don't got no category that I could put it into as far as, like,

that a whole lot of niggas in. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to find a way to articulate it. I'm still defining it. But if I was going to say anything, it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know how, like when you were in affairs, you know, they got fair lingo.

be like I'm on man time. I'm on real nigga time. Like, different niggas be on different time. You might be on blood time or you might be on your dean, you know what I'm saying? And it's like when you just on man time or real nigger time, I mean, anywhere that you plant your feet, you know what I'm saying?

You're just standing on morals, principles, things like that. So I'm trying to create that sonically. Yeah. If that makes any sense, like just some G-co, shit, just some real nigga, like, you feel? Like music for silent niggas, that guy more is an principal that they're standing on. You feel? I'm going to give you some flavor too.

Well, I liked it when I was listening to you, just kind of getting ready for this interview. I like that you were lyrical, but you have that still melodic sound that's from the south. You know? Yeah, you're best of boo. You know what I'm saying? Like, because it's still got to be exciting. You know what I'm saying? It's still got to be something that can engage them.

But it's just like, you know what I'm saying? saying I don't really like bubble gun shit. So I just been, that's why I've been working on my craft the way that I do so that I can do both simultaneously. Well, Florida isn't known for its rappers, right? Like nobody, I mean, look, there was like Uncle Luke from the two live crew who was a gimmick. Trick Daddy, hard, kind of a gimmick. By the way, you don't have to talk any shit if you don't want to. I'm going to do all this shit talking about rappers.

The number of legends of mine. There are legends, but from a, as a, on a mass market. perspective from from a hip-hop connoisseur I would call myself there they weren't taken seriously as rappers I don't think outside of but I like ball for ball lyrically yeah you know what I'm saying maybe not as far like having the most substance I mean I feel like a trick made shit that resonated with the streets door but I like like like I think I think Rick Ross was the one though to break to kind of break Miami's Florida music out to a wider audience and he had some longevity.

He's the biggest. He's the best ever do it from the career. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, if you look at the run

the man that had, like how long he'd been able to stay on top of like how much money he done made, how many trains he didn't said how many niggas he didn't put on.

You know what I'm saying? There ain't nobody else from FLA than the game harder than all did. Now, and the single you have with them is called what? Type of niggas.

Yes. I know what it was called. I just thought you'd say it. Yeah, yeah. Yes. He said of me. But, yeah.

Yeah, no, it's a real, it really goes. Yeah. But again, Ross is, he took a lot of heat back in the day because people were like, this guy was a CEO, a corrections officer, which, by the way, we all know corrections officers are fucking dirty as shit. They're with the shit. They're involved in it much of the time. But you don't have to worry about anybody accusing you of rapping about shit that you didn't do because I think you were pretty thorough. Yeah, it ain't no mystery in my history. Everything verified.

You could type my name in and you're going to see what it's based on. You're from St. Petersburg. Yeah. And I didn't know there were any black people in St. Petersburg until I mentioned. Some Liddleman, there's in St. Petersburg. That's wild. Yeah, but that's not what they're going to market to, like, the tours or whatever. They want to show you the beaches.

And I know we got, like, the tennis courts and the golf course and all that. But, I mean, just like most cities in Florida, like, you go to Orlando. They got anywhere where you go to the west side or something different. You go to Miami. You go to South Beach. But then you can go to poking beans or the matchbox projects, and it's something different, you know what I'm saying? So in St. Pete, it's the South Side.

Historically, that's where all the black people are. So it's like once you get to the South Side, but as soon as you leave one hoods, you win another. And once you lead, James Time, you, you damn there, Bethlehurst. Once you leave Bethlehurst, you might be at Bartlett, like Cross 9. Once you leave Cross 9, you went to Harbill.

Once you leave Harbid, Litt, that's 38. And you might go up the street a little more. You're in Auburn Park. You went Jordan Park. You were in Charles Park. We got Shaded Side, Dub, Ave, 33rd, Trayfold. Yeah. I mean, and I'm naming these bitchy, bro.

And I'm still forgetting you got a play lot. I'm still forgetting shit. So you were 14 when you started rapping. Why did the street shit get so out of control by the end? I mean, um. I'm obviously you needed money, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, niggas needed some pay you feel because a lot of route shit wasn't making a nigga no money.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And, um, you know, just. It wasn't a lot of resources, you know, coming from where I come from. So I took it to the street shit. And, I mean, even I didn't expect to blow up, like, the way that I did. Like, I didn't even all the way knew I possessed some of the skills that I had. But it's like once I tried my hand, you know what I'm saying?

It was a natural. So the money were coming in and this shit just went to take it off. Right. That kind of was my story, too. I'd never expected it to blow up the way it did. Yeah. You know, so you kind of have to take an opportunity. It's the street shit's a lot like show business.

You kind of got to take the door if it opens. Yeah, you got to strike when I had my run last time, I'm like, well, I played this right. I'll never be broke again. And just me being broke my whole life and knowing how much stress and anxiety, how much pain come with that shit, the possibility of permanently removing that. For me and my loved one, like, that's a strong form of motivation. It'll make you put that route shit to the side.

Yeah, that's the, that's the thing. You know, GZ talks about that. He's got, he was in the recording studio in Atlanta where he kept all the work, you know. And he had pies. Like, he was really, you know. Hey, I ain't going to lie. Like, Jesus is one of the ones who even behind the G-Wall, they was vouching for dog. I would locked up with niggas from Georgia.

Like, yeah, dog got it in. Yeah, he really got it in. But I think it was T.I. who told them, he told him you can't have it both ways. Like, you're going to have to put the drugs down at a certain point and make the jump. Because you can't have everything for free, right? Like, it's not like few rappers have this like seamless, okay, I'm putting out mixtapes, but I'm also bringing in a ton of drug money. But no problem.

Then I'm going to get on and just leave the streets behind. Like it usually doesn't work that way. You either take a fall or you got to say, I got to sacrifice like every artist and make a leap of faith. I think that's how the universe works, you know? I mean, you got to understand this shit competitive. So it's like, like me is a screen that if you're for him and I, like, I've been, knowing like if I wanted to I could jump back in that lane but then I wouldn't be focused then you got some niggas who this route shit is all they got so then 24 sell them this what

they own they they're taking pictures they making videos they in the studio they network and they moving their feet you you're not going to be able to compete with them if you're you know what you're not going to be able to compete with them so it's like if you want to be able to lead your stand to really make a mark create a wave and this shit especially like you're initially, because, like, that's the hardest part, making that transition into being recognized or being a household name. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? All the money gets spent on artists at the beginning of their career to break them. Once you make them my household name, they generate money. So it's like even if you wish this and something out, it's like they're generating it. Mm-hmm.

You know what I'm saying? You might spend, like, they might spend two, like real talk, like two, three million to break our artists. But once they break them, he'll make the money for 10 years. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? So it's like that initial wave is what it's all about, bro.

So it's like the same time while the labor working, you got to be working, it just got to be, you know what I'm saying? You don't want to leave anything a chance. Isn't it better to have your own money if you can at the beginning so you don't have to get that advance? Like you can, two or three million dollars, that goes to music videos and features and shit like that. It's better when they don't have to spend it when you can spend it. I mean, for me, for me the way that we're ripping it, you're feeling like, Ross is a player, you know what I'm saying?

If it's an opportunity to make a move and he feels like it's a good look, he's going to spin it. You know what I'm saying? Ross going to drop the bag. But at the same time, I got my own pay, and I might scope out. You know what I'm saying? Like, this whole interview, like,

this come off for, like, something I wanted to do. So it's like, I could have, like, holladdle that Ross been like, hey, bro, you think you could pay for a flight, you think you would pay for a hotel? I didn't do that. I just came out here and made it happen because I knew it was going to be a good look.

So it's like, there will be plays. He put the motion, plays out, put the motion and then you you just put all the momentum together and they made the way of crazy so like for me that's been the benefit of me having my own money right of course

like I can initiate my own plays and um you know what I'm saying when I be opening up for Ross so we be going to these different clubs I'm always pushing up clean you know what I'm saying just you know putting on making the brand look good

you're very professional you didn't show up with fucking 20 goons I appreciate it just one reliable white guy every rapper no matter how hood needs a reliably poorly dressed reliable white guy

to get you weed to get you recording studio time what else do you guys hookers pussy I'm just I'm like a father yeah they get a job done

the sister so okay so you're on Rick's label but let's talk about this is exciting let's talk about how we get to it so you're a teenager what's home life like Memorial Day weekend is almost here, and it's time to kick off summer right.

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Drink responsibly must be 21. I'm the oldest of seven kids. There's a lot of kids. Yeah, my mama got seven kids on the oldest of seven kids. And a lot of my younger siblings, they have medical conditions and things like that. So my mama was always taking them to physical therapy and different shit.

Like she was always in and out of the hospital, so she couldn't hold down a job just because of how demanding it was keeping up with all the kids. So just coming up, we ain't had shit. And then me being the oldest, you know what I'm saying? It's going to put me in a spot where it's like

whenever something do come through, I'd rather out of the younger ones get that because I can kind of get out here and fend for myself. Right. So, um... Was pops around? Yeah, my daddy, I mean, he did what it could,

but he didn't have a lot either. Like, my dad at work hard, but like, you know, He ain't like, he don't have, like, certain skills to where it's, like, he got PhDs or no shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was in the military for as long as he could be. And, he always did, like, physical labor, like, load trucks and stuff like that. So when they got older, that shit, got kind of, like, rough on. Of course.

You know what I'm saying? So, like, he did with it because, my old boy, I ain't going to lie. Like, he used to come through and, like, do stuff for my mama's kids that wasn't here, like, Christmas time, birthdays, all that shit. Yeah. He did what it could. So you really had nobody to show you the street except your surroundings, probably your peers and shit like that. The click of the niggles that I drawled all the post where we all just learned from each other like crashing out. Like, okay, like we learned like, yo, I ain't had no big homie, no big brothers, nothing like that.

Like it was just like from just getting out there and learning from our own experiences, which is what led to like a lot of the unnecessary bids and shit like that. What were you was at the beginning? It was weed or what? I started out about selling weed. I started selling dope like right after I started selling weed though. But it's just like, you know. Dope is hair on? Nah, St. Pete, dope is crack.

Okay. That's like it is on the West Coast. It's dope is synonymous for any, really anything. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, when we say dope and St.P., we probably talking about crack. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know. But like, you know, the crack game ain't what it is, what it was, but I know back in the day, like, when I was, like, a jit, you feel me, that's what it was. But, like, you know, we, we kids, so we ain't really having, like, no plus. Niggas ain't even having transportation. So it's like the draw shit wasn't really, like, it wasn't really, like, giving, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, once a nigga went to, like, fucking with the robberies and the burglaries,

it was, like, just, just for the type of resources we had at the time, it, It was more lucrative for us. Yeah. So then I kind of like started like doing more and more of that. And that's how I started racking up, Autumn Charger. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? I got Charging an adult for like eight burglaries.

And then even though they charged me as an adult, they sentenced me as a juvenile. But because I got Charging as an adult, they still went on my adult record. So then when I got out, I had got another burglar. It was just like one. But even though it was just one, I was just one, I was just. I was still on juvenile probation. So in Florida, at least, if you violate probation with a new charge, they reopen all your cases as if they're brand new.

Wow. So now I'm 19 with nine burglar charges. And then, like, my most recent one because of the severity of it, it was a PBL and all kind of shit. So I face a night 17 years. But what spared me was, just like I said, they got to reopen the cases as if they're brand new. So if you reopen my cases, I don't have no record,

and you got to treat me kind of like a 16-year-old with no record. So that's how I ended up getting, I think, two and a half years. Not bad. Followed by two years of community control and I think two years of probation. So then were you still rapping when you were on the inside? Like, were you writing rap? That's why I got sharp. Yeah.

Because the way that it went in them, you know, in Florida, like, we ain't too big on like the punch line. battle rap type thing. But like it was still kind of like we was battle rap because it'll be like, you know, I'm from St. Pete. So then like, let's say niggas are get in the day room, go to beating on the wall, beating on the table, niggas will start rapping.

And then it's like if a nigga from Orlando or a nigga from Jacksonville were kind of like taking off, my home boys will come get me like, hey boy, oh, this a guy out there. Oh, rapper, they think he's sliding. We need you come smash some type shit, you know what I'm saying? So I kind of go out there and rip. Nine times out of ten.

Really damn the air time. I'm going to outshine, whoever it is. Okay, so you were nice from the jump. That was nice before I started getting locked up. Yeah, yo, yo. Like, even when I was, when I first, I had been rapping, but I first made up my mind I wanted to be a rapper when I was 14.

My freshman year. I remember being in the locker room in gym class. Yeah. And niggas being fucked up by my shit. So I've been had that girl. Yeah. Yeah. that's how it is kind of as you musician

you either kind of have it or you don't I feel like and it's very it's kind of like balling hooping or playing playing sports like it's pretty evident from a very young age like this this person's got the goods yeah I'd be feeling like the number one thing that determined whether or not

a nigger can make it as a rapper is if people take you serious enough to listen to you when you when you rap you know what I'm saying like if you say I'm making the song. If you say I'm making a video, even if it's on a small scare, because the shit started small for me. But in my little clique, in my little neighborhood, in my little circle, like if I sat off in a drop a new mix table, dropping new song, everybody from the tune in,

you feel me? Like, if I'm in the locker room and I'm going in, nigger, stop what they doing and listen. If I, if I'm in the day room and I'm taking off, nigger stop and listen. You know what I'm saying? If you don't have the ability for people to want to tune in to what you got to say. Yeah. You're not going to be able to make it in a rap. Yeah, I think it's they have to take you seriously. Even if you're not a serious artist, like there's people who, especially now,

the white rappers, you know, are not gangster at all. Like, little Dickie is like a, he's a dork. He's a professed, he's a self-proclaimed Jewish kind of dorky kid. But he owns himself so much that people still take that seriously because they see that he's being authentic. They say, people really got to believe you. Yeah, they take interesting. And just like, you could have a nigga like yo-gadi who, I feel like Yogati who, I feel like he got better as a rapper.

But at one point, I don't feel like he was rapping as good as like Wayne or no shit like that. But it was just like he epitomized something. He embodied something like when a nigga used to get on the tracks. He used to sound like the biggest dope boy from St. Pete, from Tampa, from whatever city you were from. Like that's what Modi will put you in, whatever, whoever the big dog was in your city. they got to have the same tight swag. So it's like niggas could tune into it. They tapped into it.

Yeah, swag is very important amongst, we'll just call it like black rap. Like that you look, it's almost like being an actor. Look is, and Rick Ross embodies marketing. It's self-marketing. That nigger was a saucer fuck. You know, but it comes from the look, which, and the voice, voice is so important.

You've got a really distinct gutteral, Florida melodic voice. Yeah, and a lot of that's shit you just can't teach. Yeah, well done. Unlike podcasting, anybody can do it. But, wow, okay, so you're in the day room, you're honing your skills. What a fucking nightmare for a guy who's in there for DUIs

and he just wants to get some sleep and you got these young black, rambunctious kids staying up an whole night rapping. We're being that bitch making all that noise and then one of the old niggas will be like, boy, be quiet, y'all making too much noise. We tell the nigga bond out. Why you still here, bitch, we bid.

Right. What's going on. Yeah. You're not listening to that. No. Okay. So, but this is kind of like playtime. What is the state,

you're doing a state bid? Mm-hmm. That sounds easy. No, I ain't allowed. A state bid was the realest one. Really? Yeah, that bit was rocking. You know, on Sand Club.

Like I said, I was a youthful offender when I went in, so I went to sign called a Jit Camp. So a Jit Camp is, like where everybody is young. Like, it's said go out to 24, but I don't remember seeing nobody 24 and everybody was like maybe 20 at the most. Like I was 20.

I was down to one of the oldest. So usually like for you to be that young and end up in prison, like for them to not come up with some type of all turn of the for you, you didn't did something pretty fucking crazy. You know what I'm saying? So the majority of people that I were locked up with

was just retarded, violent-ass niggas, like niggas, dude. like niggas with home invasions and aggravated assaults with bodily disfigurements and crazy shit, you know what I'm saying? So like when I went to state prison, dog, they saw me to Lancaster.

Lancaster, it was always rocking, but it got particularly bad because the worst jet count was Brevard and they closed Brevard. So then all the niggas from Bavar kind of ended up at Lancaster. Some of them ended up at Lake City, but Lake City was a private facility.

It wasn't state-ran. So since it was a private facility You know they had different rules You might go get a haircut or something You could cut yourself Like shaving Start bleeding If the COC it

They're going to shut the whole compound down Doing investigation Running cameras and figure out what happened So as far as like People just fighting and getting off That wasn't really going on Versus at Lancaster The police beach ass

The niggas beat your ass It's just glad they had the school your family survival of the fittest that where I landed at so um yeah

old time I was in the that it was going on uh broom sticks up niggas asses they were light niggas on fire all kind of crazy

shit niggas doing all this shit for zuzos and wangwams nigger like little kates and shit on commissaire that's fucking crazy

yeah people lighting people's nuts on fire yeah it sounds like a joke but that's it's great y'all serious

shit, death real. Wow. It was going on because like, I don't know. It's like, it'd be crazy how, like, psychologically you feel like circumstances determine shit. So it's like in there to be popular or to have some type of rank or have some type of face to be somebody with prestige that go to whoever the most savage, like whoever is the most cut or whoever is the most violent is who get the ranking up.

So I feel like niggas just used to be trying to up the skull. Like, okay, that nigga, he stuck a wound up, nigga up my guy ass. I'm gonna lie the nudge on fire. Wow. Like, fuck, brother. Those niggas on Demon Time. Yeah, it is demon time.

Well, because you know, like, Florida is the reputation and rightly deserved for just having the craziest people. Yeah. So I guess that. The Florida man. The Florida man. They're notorious. And I think that really makes sense when you describe what prisons are like there.

It's like nonsense violence Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It didn't make no motherfucking sense You know It ain't made no sense It's like, but these niggas out there It's like that Like I wake up every day

And I try to find ways To get me some money Or I might see a girl that I like I might introduce myself I try to take on the date I'm trying to initiate a certain result And it's niggas who wake up every day Looking for a reason

The fucking nigga over, bro Just like like like the same gratification that I seem to get out of getting money is niggas who get that same gratification off of knocking a nigga a dick in the dirt. Right. So it's, there's this, though. Just hurting people.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Do you think Haitian influence has something to do with the level of violence in Florida, like that crazy violence? Or do you think that's just a perfect coincidence? I mean, it's all part of the pot,

you feel? But if you, because it's like, okay, boom, you got like, you got, Jamaicans, they're super violent. Not all of them, but like, the niggas who call themselves gangsters in Jamaica is super violent. You call yourself a gangster and you're Haitian.

And you're from, oh, you're from hater or somewhere like that. You're super violent. So if you come over here, if you bring that shit here, I mean, niggas got to adjust. You just, like, it's like, ain't no nigger trying to get bished up. Ain't no nigger trying to get, you feel me, like, whatever you had, like, got going, you try to maintain

that. So if a nigga come around on that crazy shit, you got to kind of like, find a way to match that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You got to find a way to even a score. So,

I mean, all this shit play a role. Yeah. All this shit play a role. So you got out with all your good time? Do you have good, is there good time in Florida?

Like, or do you do all the, they only give us 85%. Yeah. Everybody gets 65. But, like I said, I was in a youthful offender count.

So they had like an alternative for like a boot camp thing. You know what I'm saying? So off of the two and a half years, after the 30 months I did 21. You know what I'm saying? Because I ended up killing the last nine months because I did the boot camp of shit.

Yeah. Well, you doing push-ups and sit-ups every day and the police spitting in your face and knocking your cross your shit. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And there's no, and they don't get written up for that or anything? Fuck, no.

Yeah. I don't get rid of for that. That shit dirty, bro. Matter of fact, the JEC camps was so fucked up that they outlawed on. They don't got them no more. Wow. Is that right?

Now they just have. have like youthful offender dorms within regular adult prisons. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Well, that's one of the last places that had chain gangs, I think, is South Florida. Yeah. When they were building the railroads in Florida, like back in the early 20th century, they would just basically just kidnap people.

Like you could be like a guy who was kind of homeless or like just backpacking through, like a town. And they would say, oh, he's loitering. And they would snatch him. and charge him with like a crime, you know, 10 crimes. Now you're doing five years. And guess what?

You're on the chain gag now. And that's how they built railroads, regular highways in Florida. It's all done on slave labor. Damn. Y'all don't know. I'd be feeling like compared to, like the rest of the South,

like, let's say like Mississippi, Alabama, like, I feel like those states got a reputation for kind of being redneck country races. Yeah. I feel like people think of Florida, they see the pawn trees and the labyrinthes and the bad bitches.

And they think that we ain't on that same type of time. It's the same type of time. But like those urban areas that's like developed like that, that's the minority. The majority of Florida, bro, is country shit. Like people, like, oh, even with cattle, you know what I'm saying? People think all the cattle is in Texas. Florida, the cattle, capital.

of America, you feel me, like we have, like when you talk about places like O'Callag, Gainesville, um, Lays City, all that stuff right outside of Jacksonville or even in the Panhandle,

or better shit, country. Yeah. Yeah, it's grimy. Most of it's grime, but that's why Florida is fascinating because, yeah,

on the coast is all this wealth. Yeah, yeah, it's on the inside. It's just, it's humid. Mm-hmm. So you came home, uh,

were you putting on mixtapes at the time? Or, like, what was, the way to get on when you were in your 20s? What was the way to break in as a rapper? By the time I went to stay prison, I did like three mistakes. Okay. And then I got out of state prison and I did, I did a mistake.

A big state called Best Thing Flowing on my first one. Then I did another one called Trigger City Goon. And then like I kind of fell back from the musical. I'm making so much money in the screech. Like that's like somewhere like a little bit after that is when everything started taking off. And then on. With what?

shit with emotion I got caught a plug you know what I said Who's the plug? The plug was I don't even know what his ethnicity was he had to be some type of Hispanic

because of what his last name was but it was I think it was a Hispanic dude out of Humboldt for Coke no no no no I fought it with the bud yeah yeah I fought it with the bud

that's how I blew up you know what I'm saying they were trying to hand that different shit but I mean, once I ran across that plug and it felt like a nigga, bro, like, like, damn it was preting the money. I remember the first time, like, like, a nigga telling me these numbers, like he got pounds for $1,600.

And at the time, I was paying $30,200 for a pound. Yeah. So I'm like, this shit doesn't sound fake. I'm scared of cool, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, it's like, I want to try my hand. I want to see what it's bought. So sent my money. Okay, so this is a guy in $100.

Humbold County, California. Yeah. Wow. It was in Humboldt County. So you got the plug. It's the plug. That's the weed. That's the weave version of finding the guy in many in Columbia.

That's where I was getting my ship from. Yeah, yeah. It don't get, that's the mecca, nigga. That's the Holy Land, you know what I said? So. How'd you meet him? I met him because I met him through the nigga that ended up, said on me.

It was actually like, um, nigga that ended up said on me. knew a girl that moved out there. And I think that ended up being her boyfriend. Some shit like that. Right. You know what I'm saying? So.

Well, anyways, so you gave it a test run. You sent them your money out. Yeah, and that bitch came through. And you got the dope back. Yeah, that bitch came through. And I remember I pulled into the motherfucker, dollar store on 18th and 22nd. And I served the nigga, like,

I didn't have to keep my poker face on because the shit was crazy to me. Like, I was just paying $3,200. And now you got it for $16. And then I served it to a nigga for $3,200. Yeah. And I made $1,600. And you just doubled, what it would have taken you fucking 10 pounds to make? You know what I said?

Like, bro, I made $1,600 for shaking the nigga hand. He happy, I'm happy. Like, and then the thing about it, the bud was way better than anything else that was in St. Pete. And it was, like, and even me getting them at 32 at that time, shit, I'm getting them for $302 and I can still wholesale. You know, I break down too, but I can still wholesale. So it's like 30 to a good ticket. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So now everybody down the chain eats. Like your cats, your people are happy when you're giving it to them for 32. Yeah. I'm watching the niggas buy calls and watching niggas open those studios. I'm watching niggas do shit. Like, and when I sold that first bow and made $1,600, like, I was just like, at the dog pulled off. I was still just sitting in the car like, how many times can I do that? I could do that 10 times.

I could do that 10 times. I can do that a hundred times. Only 100 times. And now you got 160 bands. Yeah. It's nothing to do that shit a hundred times. It kind of feels like it truly made me a religious man when that happened to me. I was like, oh, I think the Lord, I think this is God intervening.

I ain't a lie. I kind of did too, though. Like, like, like, bro, I swore. All that Bruno that you've, your mom had been doing. But, yeah, I kind of felt that way too because, like, I just was a good nigga and I did good things with it. You know what I'm saying? So your price was 16. That is incredible. So I didn't even have the ticket, but I'm older than you when the prices were still a little higher. Like 2014. Yeah. So now California's weed is basically fully legal by this time on the West Coast. So

West Coast growers need cats in places like the South to get their work off because it's not moving like it was out here back in the day. So, okay, how did this ramp up? I mean Because now you got to get it all Now you need quantity It was like Everything was easier But then though

Because nobody was up on game I didn't know nobody who did this Like that shit sounded crazy to me Like the idea of getting drugs In the mail Like I wouldn't I think I had like one Mexican partner Who had like a big ass

Like metal thing That got And he got like a bunch of like That Mexican brickweed Sent in the mail When we were just or something But like that seemed like some sophisticated kind of line.

I don't know how he even did that. Right. You know what I'm saying? But as far as my circle, I didn't know anybody else in my circle or in my city that had that going at that time. So then it was like, it was just easy to fly under the radar, bro.

Like it was, the mail was touching down and the money was touching down. I used to buy like a phone book or like not a phone book. But I used to want something like a phone book. So why I used to buy was like SAT books. SAT bus and ACT books. I put $100 bills all through that bitch, and then I ship it.

That bitch never got knocked off. If I was extra paranoid about something, it was like one of them smoke shots in my area where you can get like custom-made bongs and shit like that. And I vacuumed shit of money and had them make a bong like a vase almost to where it's like you can't even see the money, touch the money, nothing. And then when the plug or get it, just take that bitch out of it. and the money will be enough. But, like, all the money was touching down.

Like, I took a couple of losses at the beginning when I ain't know what I was doing, but all the money was touching down. And then the Pikes, they was like 95% touching down. But I'm doubling my money. So the ratio way more in my favor. If I lose one out of every 20

and I'm doubling up every time, okay, so I ate off the first 18 and then number 19 make up for number 20, we keep this shit rolling. How many were you getting at a time? back then it only needed to get like 10 a week so I was like getting 10 a week

and I made like 15, 16,000 every week but then if I wanted to go like let's say it was like um Croptober you feel me like that time of the year where everything is in abundance I want a hundred and I have but if I want a hundred I'm gonna go out there

so I can pick everything make sure it's good right you know what I'm saying so it was like I was keeping in that range like if I was just on some, you know, like the routine was pretty much to 10 a week. And then if I really, like, but when it came time for me to snap, I go out of myself and bring back a hundred.

How would you bring 100 pounds back? The mail. Wow. Oh, between how many boxes? Oh, we would do two boxes for every address and every box can hold like three. Oh, so there's a lot of boxes you're sending out. Yeah. But that's how sweet it was at that time.

Them bitches was landing. Yeah. You're using UPS or FedEx or? USPS priority shipping. Yeah. Two to three days. I used to chat them bitches on my phone. Green check.

Green check. Green check. That means that bitch landed green shit. Yeah. But like, yeah, it was sweet. I mean, I switched it up a little bit like I wouldn't have all the pounds coming to the same city and shit like that. But, yeah, but that was the method. You're just paying people to use their addresses.

Yeah, yeah. This was back in the golden area. Bitch rent was seven hundred or eight hundred. I'm paying whole rent. Like, yeah. What's a box? Yeah. Doesn't even have your name on it.

I'm like, look, man, if this bitch get knocked off, the only thing is going to happen because they can't say that you consented for it to be here. Right. So they can't really pin it to you. They might start watching you when you ain't got nothing going. It wasn't nothing. When you got the box, were you waiting there for the mailman?

Or how did you kind of insulate yourself? Nah. Or did you have them bring the box to you? No, they're just, what I would do, I would tell them not to touch it. I tell him not to touch it. I'll like, man, if you can, I make sure I don't know why to fuck with it,

but don't touch it. And I just come through and scoop it, like that way to just keep even less possibility they could try to act like they was in on it, you feel me? Yeah. I met a guy who would say when he got weed sent through the mail,

he would get the box delivered to his address, and he wouldn't touch it for like three or four days. Like, he would just bring it to his house, just leave it there. It was under a fake name. So if the cops raided, he's like, look, I think it was just a mistake. haven't even opened the box.

Yeah. Doesn't have my name on it. Yeah. So different little methods like that. But you were just cowboying it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like with me. I was too. Like with them, I was super protective.

I didn't want nothing to happen to my people or whatever. Commode Stone was people that I genuinely, I think that everybody, I genuinely fought away. And I didn't my stil away. Like, even if I didn't know you like that, I wouldn't want that. You know what I'm saying? But, um. How many people were working for you, were taking work off you? What do you mean like with the bosses?

Yeah, how many people were you given pounds to? Like seven pounds to? Yeah. Yeah, like how many people do you have? A lot. But I ain't going to lie. Back then,

niggas wasn't buying pounds like that. Like I had like, you know, I had like a couple of niggas who bought five and ten, but it ain't like how it is now when niggas buy 50 and 100. Like back then, like, I still sold zips back then. I used to sell zips for $200.

I'm making $100 off of Zip. These niggas out here send a pound making $100 now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So the game was just different. Like that's why them 10 a week used to be a lot. Mm-hmm. You know what I said?

Like, yeah, for sure. People don't realize like that's, A, that's Fed time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's because you could make so much money off of it. You're making like cocaine money off a weed. Yeah, back then it's like, like I said, I'm paying 16. And it's like the going rate was like 32. I think I would start selling it for like 20.

they're going to eight though. But like I would still sell zips for like $200 a QP for $800 and shit like that. Still breaking down. That's crazy. But it's like if a nigga buy a QP off me, I made 400 and I might have 10 niggas buy QPs in a day. You know what I'm saying? So that's four pounds going on that day. That's $4,000 at one day. Sure. You know what I'm saying? That shit has a look. It's more work. It's more risk. It's more people you got to deal with. But yeah, you're just maximizing your dollar. And you had the best product. Yeah.

And niggas didn't have, niggas just didn't have it like that back then, bro. Like, niggas wasn't spending, like, just everything turned up. Now, these young niggas got this shit turned up. Like, they, these young niggas having, like, a tin ball like to spend.

You know what I'm saying? And it's like, but just back then niggas didn't have that. And then on top of that, it's like if the way this shit is, now with these young niggas, it's like, I feel like they don't have confidence in their hustle.

So once they spend their money, or I just had 10,000 now I got nothing. That anxiety set in. They're a little too anxious to get that 10,000 back. They start thinking like, okay, I had 10,000.

If I get this shit away for next to nothing, if I make $100, like let's say I'm spending $10,000, I get $10. If I get it, if I sell these bitches for $1,100, they're going to sell the day.

I'm going to make $1,000 in one day. I'm going to have my money back, so I'm going to get rid of this fucked up filling in my stomach. And I can do this shit again. and that's what the game is now. Well, I think that's just one method, right? I'm going to give it,

I'm going to barely take just one point off of each unit, but it's moving so fast that I'll take a G a day. Also, there's so much work that, like, these connects are probably just giving them 50 for the price of 10, because they need it to move. Like, that's what shifted. That's why it's like a nigga be up here to say something like they're moving 10 pounds a week,

but I'm making $16,000. week versus like now a nigga boo 50 pounds a week and he might only be making 5,000 right you know what I'm saying so the game's just different exactly yeah so business is good how long are you running like this for shit like three uh 19 14 15 summer 6th so you're bubbling you're making this is a million dollar operation yeah yeah and you're to it because it ain't even just me it's me and the nigga that ended up folding on me

he was actually making more money than I was yeah were you did you have a plan here's a sharp guy were you investing in your own music like were you trying to push it I was putting money behind other artists um

we had an artist we had a Neil So artist artist named Arachai she's still doing a thing she's super fire um I was trying to put some money behind my home boy Fabo actually out here from the west coast he from San Diego and like um since since he went his own way he's been bubbling doing well you know what I'm saying my

my little dog trace outside god blessed it there he was doing this thing so I was putting money behind people that was making music but that still kept me in the mix with the music um but you were a rap and yourself doesn't sound like yeah not too often you know what I'm saying then we was we started getting into the club from moving so we was breaking different artists like young dog young school that we brought codad black and then I had my clothing line and there's clothing I'm still pushing that

so like I was putting my money behind those things Okay So 2017 is when it ended 2016 Okay That's why I say some of 16 Like not the whole 16 So your partner

Your Cody ratted on you Yeah like Um It's a crazy story The nigga like lost his mind It is like I feel like sometimes Like when I'm trying to describe

the play-by-play, like how this shit went. I don't know how to get people to understand the severity of just mentally what happened to this nigga. Cudlide dog used to be, you feel, me, like getting money, popping his shit. Like, he was swift. But he was schizophrenic, and I ain't know that. It was like one year during school

where he disappeared for a year. We thought it was because he got caught with some weird old time. He had tripped out then. You know what I'm saying? And it's hereditary. That shit got had had. down to him. So he just, he on the west coast in the middle of Michigan, got like a quarter a million dollars. Like half my half his, he's supposed to be bringing this shit back.

And the nigga just called me one day talking crazy as fuck. It never went back to normal. And no one saying? So, um, he ended up catching. I don't know exactly what the child world, but he got fucked up and humble. Um, I know with some type of traffic in the world of, his bond was 75,000. He bonded out. After he bonded out, he, as he bonded out, he came back to Florida, and he bought his court date. So now his bond gets revoked, and then he gets a failure to appeal, which comes with no bond. Anybody, I don't know how familiar, everybody is with the system, but that's what happened. If you don't go to court, your bond for your original charge, get revoked, and you're going to get a new felony failure to appeal, which has no bond.

Then he went back to California, but he didn't go to Humbold. He went to L.A. How did he get out if you didn't have a bond? No, he bonded out. Okay, I see. He had a $75,000 bond. He bonded out. Came to Florida.

Didn't grow, but he didn't go to his court dates. Yeah, that's right. Back in Cali. He didn't go to court days in Cali. So he ended up with the FTA. They revoke his bond and now he has the warrant for the FTA too. He goes back to California, but he goes to L.A. Then he had a cousin he claimed that put him up on game about the planes.

Well, you know, niggas put the pounds in the vans. vacuum seels and they put them in the suitcases and they flying them across. So we was about to start doing that. And our very first attempt they're doing that, he got jammed up in the airport. So now you got a nigga that got jammed up in L.A. L.A.X. With pounds already has a FTA and already has his bomb revolt for a previous traffic and charge. And you just caught him trying to bring pounds through the airport, not going too humble, still trying to go to Florida. still not for the report.

And then he gave release on his own recording this. Mm-mm. No. Not only that. But all my paperwork says that an L.A. A L.A. rat led to my arrest. I just told you.

Ain't had no business in L.A. Never been to L.A. Didn't deal with nobody in L.A. Everything was out of humble. So when I'm looking at my paperwork and it's saying a nigger L.A. told on me, I know who the nigga is. You know what I said?

So they just took his name out of the discovery? Yeah. the paperwork. Yeah, but it's just like, you know, like everything they're saying, even the 230 pounds. Like when the crackers bliss my shit, I ain't had 200 and 30 pounds.

I had 20-something pounds. He went over there to get 230 pounds. Half of me, half of him. That's what he went to do. So even like when they talk about how many pounds it is, I never got caught with that. He got called with that.

LA drove forward to my arrest. I don't deal with nobody in LA. Boy, you went to jail in L.A. You got released on your own record that's after you. getting your bomb revoked after having an FTA, after trying to come through the airport again, you're a flat wrist like a bitch.

It ain't no way you get released on your own car. You ain't get released on your own reconnaissance when you caught the first charge without all the extra crazy shit. Your bomb was 75K. Yeah. You know what I said? So... Okay, so he's doing a lot of talking and a lot of walking. After he gets released on his own

reconnaissance, did you know any of this had happened? Only knew... Only knew... I only knew, I did know about the first case. I knew about the first case. He was just downplaying it. He like made a scene like I got caught with like six, seven pounds.

And then it happened in California. So I'm thinking there's even more petty. Right. You know what I'm saying? I had to get a private investigator. Like once I caught my case, I got a private investigator. How long after he got popped in L.A., did you get raided and catch your case?

It went so long. I don't remember. I just know that I got rated like. three days after I told him where I lived. Okay. I don't remember. So it was immediately after, basically. Immediately after he found out where I stayed.

Because what he did, he was trying to tell on other niggas that he didn't like. Like, it was like a couple of nigginsk, we had followed with or whatever. And he was like, he played friendly. Like, he wanted to piece it up. And, but, like, them niggas wouldn't let him in their game room enough for him to get the intel and necessary to tell on them. And he already knew my player. And, like, my, you know, because it was his operation too.

Mm-hmm. So it's like... So he had to give him something that they could really use. Like I don't think I was his first option, but like the fuckn't still play that how he did. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like once you didn't agree and you don't got let out,

you're going to come up with something. Otherwise, the severity of your situation is going to be tenfolding. You already weren't ready for the pressure that came with with it initially. You know what I'm saying? How many pounds do you get jammed up with at the airport? And I was saying, like, I know that he went out there to buy $2.30.

But, like, the way I say $2.30, like, he went out of the boat enough money about $200. That was the plan about $200. But if we buy $200, we might get, like, front of the little bit, or maybe they added the 23 that they got off me at the crib. I don't know how they got $2.30. Or maybe he found a deal. You know what I'm saying? Like, he had enough money for, because, like, we might go out there with, let's say,

we expect him to pay $16. But you might run across son that's, like, $14. They'll get the job done. You know what I'm saying? I just know I never got caught with anything past 23 pounds. And they're talking about 200. That's what he got called doing. Okay.

So you got raided after he gets out of the situation in LAX. You got raided in Florida at the crib. Yeah. Because he came back. He was working trying to flip other niggas. He couldn't really get the intel he was looking for. He had a baby on the way. You feel?

Man, this is my age boom coon. we're like tight, you know what I'm saying? So, I mean, I just know if I was in one of those situations, how I played, I'd take my lick, you know what I'm saying? I fell back from dog, not even because of the case. I fell back, like I said, he was having a mental breakdown job. Dog was just moving with it. Yeah.

So then I just started to feel kind of guilty. If I'm like, that's my nigger, I ain't feel like I was handling them right. So then, like, I got a new crib. He had his lady and a baby on the way. I usually don't be having no lady. but I had it later at that time, so I was just like, fuck it. I'm inviting them over. My bitch can be his bitch.

We could piece this shit up and get back on like rocking and rolling like how he'd been doing. And he's son-in-my-my-shit. So the crib got hit. Mm-hmm. You were at home when they raided? Nah, I was doing my one-two like I usually do, but I had shit coming in. I had some pipes coming in to Salisota. I had some pipes coming in to St. Peter, I think.

And when they first, like, opened up surveillance home, it was when I came back from, like, the girl from Sarasota, she had met me at Tampa International Mall when they got something to eat. I get a box and I come back. That's when they got me under surveillance. So they watched me make my moves. I went to like a 7-Eleven kind of by my apartments. I called a nigga.

They watched me do that. I went to some apartments by my apartments, called a nigga. They watched me do that. Then I had some motion in the hood. Because I was staying in some, like, luxury shit. Like, I wasn't, I was, like, deep north. I was, like, as far as St. Peter's as you can get before you get the temple. So I shoot to the hood.

I'm out the realm of surveillance. And then when I come back, I got the box that I picked up off one of my little dogs. And, you know, I'm walking up to the apartment. And when I'm walking up to the apartment, I go to take the key fove to open up my gate. Because it's like a dude standing by there who can't get in. And he making it sound like he on the phone. you're feeling like talking to the people who stay in there like hey man i'm standing at the gate i can't get into this bitch and um you know i already had a key file so i ain't no press at all i got you

i go to open the gate for him to let him in and then he grabbed me and when he grabbed me you know i'm i'll tighten up like i'm down there ready to fade because i don't really know what's going on but this nigger just put his hands on me and he starts saying police police police then i start looking around and these bids just jumping out of bushes they coming from behind cars police was there or, you know what I'm saying? Was it feds? No, it was, it was a SPPD. Okay.

But they had one federal personnel. That's how I said, knew my shit was going to go fed. They had, like, it was, like, literally, like, one officer there who was SPPD slash ATF. Mm-hmm. And he told me he was going to send my case to the fed. I don't know. I ain't believe it. Hmm.

Yeah, they usually have, they, that's what happened with me. Like, a DEA guy showed up because, like, they usually let me. the local pigs have the weed shit and then the DEA guys there just overlooking seeing if they can make a fed case out of it like seeing if you're worth it basically because you might just be a guy with a couple of pounds you know uh but then they they caught a whale they were like oh this guy's this guy's a player because like what they did they had pictures of the inside my apartment the maintenance man in my apartment and went in my shed and so pictures wow yeah yeah they really did reconnaissance on you yeah bro i ain't a lot like like when

I need to take the time to like kind of look into that because he intentionally waited for me not to be the, because I say this on, like the statement that he gave or whatever, that he came to the apartment and he knew that me and my shit was in there because he heard like the laundry machine going. He heard people talking, he heard music playing.

And he left. Like he deliberately waited until I wasn't there to go on my shit. But he claimed he was responding to a, work order. But when we subpoenaed the records, because the blue of work order in my apartment, you can't call, you got to do an email. There was no work orders for my building, my entire building that day. And there was no work orders for my building. Like, okay, because you know it's more than one flow. So like my flow and my building didn't have any work orders for that entire week. And my building didn't have no work order for that day. So what work order are you claiming

you was fulfilling? Yeah. So what would that do? What would you sue him or would you try to... What it would have did at the time, it would have proved that the warrant was founded with malicious intent and the whole case would have went away. You think so? Maybe. Yeah, that's how I go.

But it's like I just didn't, I was running out of time. Like, if it were to stay state, that's probably how I would have went, but it went fared. And when it went fared, I couldn't get a bond. And I had to get my lawyer extra $10,000. And it's just, and then, you know, the feds, they're like, they're asking you within 30 days, if you want to go to the trial.

So then if you, and I was charged with a 924C, which is using, I just had other charges too, but the 924C is using the gun and the furtherments of drug trafficking offense, which carries five years to life. So if I go to trial and I lose, I'm going to, you know what I'm saying, like, potentially have a license.

And you had a gun at the apartment? I had three guns and all. Hmm. That's Florida. Yeah, I mean, and slick, like, Like, what's so crazy? Because, like, that's what they do. Like, I would have just got fetting the possession of a firearm and then possession of marijuana with a tennis tribute, whatever.

But the reason why I got the 9-2-4-C where they say I was using a gun in the furthers of a drug trafficking offense is because the gun was within arms reach of the drugs. Which I feel like I could have beat because the maintenance man took all the stuff and put it together to take the picture. You can look at the pictures. How did he find the drugs in the apartment? You didn't mention that. They was in a cabinet.

Like, you could smell it. So he was just in there doing shit. Like, the gun was sitting on the kitchen counter. The only reason the gun was on the kitchen counter called my little brother were looking at it before he left the house like the day before. Okay. Okay, so you didn't mention that.

This is big. We thought when you said the maintenance man went in there to take pictures, I assumed it was just to give the cops like a layout of the place. He actually went in there and photographed drugs and your guns. Yeah. That is something that you could maybe get taught. Yeah, and then when he took the pictures, it ain't like he just had it how he found it.

He put it together almost like they would for their evidence photos. Right. And then you can see different pictures where, like, some of my cleaning supplies was here. Then he moved him out of the way and different shit. Like, he was moving shit around. So it's like, I feel like if you're going to say I had a gun within arm's reach of the drugs,

you can't really say that because we have different photos where the guns and the drugs is arranged differently. He's moving shit around. But it's just like I just got partners who went to trial. Like my partner, Kese, he could have got two years. He went to trial. He got 15. Wow.

In the feds? No, his was state. But it's just like I knew that if I coped out, I was going to get an amount of time that I could handle. Right. And you're in the feds now, too. So it's a lot nicer. Yeah, yeah. So it's just like the money was running out.

And they're beating me, bro. Like the private investigator, he wanted me to pay him for 10 hours at a time. And I'll pay him for 10 hours. He'll come back, give me three sheets of paper and say he worked 10 hours. Right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just bleeding a nigga.

And you're in the county jail? Yeah. Yeah. So there's only so much you can control from jail. I'm spending $700 of money on phone calls and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Did they arrest your girl?

No, no. They threatened the arrest of them. So what involvement? I imagine your Cody showed them, he told the whole operation, told them where you lived. Did he do anything else? Any more cooperation beyond that? He probably would have taken the stand.

I imagine if you had gone to trial, right? It probably would. It was another nigga he told on to the, there was another nigga told on with any no case come behind. It was like another time he was coming through the airport with some money. He told the police that he got the money from somebody. Yeah. That wasn't involved in none at all.

And then the police contacted him because he gave them his phone number as well. You know what I said? But like, yeah, I don't know. That was pretty much it was a darn daughter for now. So they stacked, because of his word, they were able to put together 230 pounds, 200 pounds from Humboldt plus the 30 or 23 that was at your house. So is that a mandatory 10 years? No, but you get to split that.

But that's why I'd be saying what I be saying. I never got charged with $200. That's why I know it's a nigga that's telling on me. It's in my relevant conduct. I see. You know what I'm saying? Can you explain what that is for people? Yeah, so in the feds, they got, like in your PSI,

they got a part car, relevant conduct. So that relevant conduct is like, hey, we can't prove this, but this is what type of nigga, like, that's what type of, that's funny. That's where you got the end. That's what type of, like, individual we're dealing with. Right. So it's like, like for example, like I had a big homie name fella who got shot.

He caught 30 years for possession. The charge was possession of crack 50 grams or more. They have him 30 years for that. That's all they could prove. His relevant conduct said 200 kilos. Right. So basically it's to sway the sentencing. It's to sway the sentencing because he got a nigger saying, oh, I bought.

five kilos off a merry week and he got another nigger saying he bought 10 he got another saying he bought two okay how long I've been doing this shit I bought them 10 a week for a year yeah yeah well that's oh that's 500 bricks you know what I'm saying so it's like they'll put that in irrelevant conduct they can't prove it but the nigga went on the stand and said it right and so

then if he blows trial if he loses then the judge looks at the relevant conduct she can get he or she can give your partner fella the minimum but she can all also give them the max, which is life for like anything in the feds, you can get maxed out basically for life. She's going to give, she's going to, what do they call it, an upward departure. Upward departure, exactly.

Oh, it's so unconstitutional. It's so unconstitutional. It's all based on cooperation. Yeah, but it's also that sentencing should only be for the crime that they've proven. The burden of the proof is on the state or on the government, the federal government. This is what common law is. this is what makes America special. Yeah.

But that's not what you're getting sentenced. You're getting sentenced off speculation. If you look at my relevant conduct, it's say I threatened to hurt police officers. It's say that I had way more drugs than I got caught with. It's just say a bunch. It's just say a bunch of, yeah, like accusatory and stuff. Right. So what did they offer you and what did you take?

I ended up getting seven to eight months at six. and a half year. Yeah. That's six and a half years for fanning the possession of a firearm and using a gun in the furthens of a drug trafficking offense. They dropped all the drug charges. Ah.

Yeah. They just did that on their own, or it took some pressure from your lawyer? I had a little leverage because I had a civil case, and technically with a civil case, you could still subpoena people. And they didn't want me to do that. So, like, I had a little leverage because of that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you show them any holes in their case, even if you're still kind of guilty or kind of overwhelmingly guilty, they'll start to loosen the arm. Because even though the civil case was in a criminal case, if you get subpoenaed and you speak officially on the record for a civil case, what's said in the civil case can be used as, you know, evidence in the criminal case. Like that's what just happened to diddy with the casting situation.

Like once she opened up the dope with the lawsuit. the shit that she said on the lawsuit was officially on the record. Right. And that made it possible for all these other things happen. Right. So I had a situation where I could have did them like that. So I got it. I think that's how the drugs went away.

Okay. That makes sense. That makes sense. The guns was a more time anyway, though. Where'd you do your time? Mostly at Coleman. U.S. P. Coleman? No, no, no.

I was at the low. Okay. But I moved around. I went to Talladega. I went to Mariana. I went to Atlanta, Tallahassee

I think that was ever. You must have thought your rap career was done. Definitely, definitely thought about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like, like at the time, especially when I went in, everybody that I was blowing up was teenagers. Like in 2016, the freshman class on double X-Exel

was like Kodak Black, Lill Yadi, uh, Samo motherfuckers who was an under 20. Uh-huh. Maybe barely over 20. I know G. Herbo was on, I think the oldest one was Dave East, and he was like 20-cell. And I knew I wasn't fin to get out until I was 30.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I remember being in the Canada, like, call to my bitch, like, hey, how old young Dolph is? Oh, he 31. How old Kevin Gates is? Oh, he 30-ah-old. I'm like, oh, shit. I might still be able to fuck around, you know what I'm saying?

Well, you know, Rick Ross, Port of Miami didn't come out until he was 30. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was definitely time when I was in there like, damn, bitch, I got to get out, I got to run this money up, I got to build my buzz bite. So it was times where it wasn't seeming that realistic. Yeah. Yeah. How did you keep your head straight? That must have been depressing.

Or you wanted to get depressed. I don't be thinking about shit. It's like if I choose to think about it, I get depressed. Like, but I didn't used to think about that shit, and I. Like, I just, I did as much as I could to increase. my chance is a winner, you know what I'm saying? Like, the only time I really get depressed when my hands tired, if I ain't got no fight,

if I have a fight, I'm a fight. And I get so caught up in the fight and I can't be, I don't got time to be depressed, you know what I'm saying? So it's like I'm in that bitch writing. I'm in this bitch reading every music business book I can motherfucking find. I'm networking a little bit. I'm working out, you know what I'm saying,

trying to keep my swag where it needs to be like my, my mind was always on okay, like I'm going to do as much as I can from in here. Yeah. To increase the probability that I'm going to blow when I jump. So I got, shit on March, 2020, 22, 22. Okay. Yeah. Wow.

So you left the dirt alone. Did you think about, like, trying to run your money up, doing, like, some quick, you know, packages? Nah, because it's just like, my case with high, I'm from a small city, so it's like, you know, they're going to be on a nigga trail. So I had a little bit put up, you know what I'm saying? And I just, I had a lot of success with my clothing line when I first got out. My credit was real good. And I did.

My credit was good on accident because I had a credit card that I maxed out when I first went in and promoted my mixtape. And my mama just made minimum payments on that bitch the whole time I was in there. So the next thing you know, the car was already like a year and a half old. And then I did five and a half. So I got seven years worth for payments. Seven years worth of on-time payments on this business. So it's like I put a little more, but I first seen it when I first seen it in 2020.

That's when I was at Colman. I had a phone. And then I had a partner for a lot of there that was like schooling me on the credit game. So I ended up getting some more credit cards. So by the time I got out, I had five credit cards. But like the cornerstone of my credit was like that one card I had for them seven years. So then I was able to get like big lines like $25,000 on my USAA, $21,000 on the B-O-A personal loans for $30,000 without even, and they didn't even have a hard pool on my credit.

My credit was so good I didn't have to provide proof of income. Wow. I'll put it on paper that I was a truck driver. and I made $128,58,57. In 2001. And that shit just glees you, favor. I put a truck driver because... If you want to know why America is $36 trillion in debt,

this is part of the reason. It's part of the reason, boy. But this is good to know for people, like, you can access, if you have good credit, you can actually access... It's free souls. That's why I put the truck driver shit because they make a lot of money

and they can be felons. They can have gold. He digger hat tattoo. Bitch, I can't put it. I'm no doctor. No. You know what I said? I drive a truck.

Right. So you can basically access cash. If you have good credit, you can access cash through these different lines of credits on different credit cards. Yeah. Which is essentially what you did? Yeah, yeah. So what was the plan? How are you going to take that money?

I mean, I just, I made a couple of investments or whatever, but I mostly just used that money to keep everything afloat while I was chasing it. And what's, what, what, what? was your attack plan for breaking in when you came home? My plan when I ended up getting this deal was like, okay, I wanted to drop like one song a month. And does that include a video with it? I was going to draw one song a month for the first six months. No, no, the first five months.

And then month number six, I was going to drop an album slash mixtape. And then month number seven, I was going to spend the second half of that year promoting and all the music I had released the first half of the year. So the first five months I wanted to draw one song a month just to kind of wait people up, then I was going to draw the whole project, and then I kind of had like a hundred bands to the side, and I was going to spend like $4,000 every week for the rest of the year,

just pushing it, whether it be influencers, bloggers, interviews, whatever, it took tight shit, you know what I'm saying? So, um, yeah. Yeah. Now, what about beats? Where do you source your beats? It depends. I got home boys that make good beats.

I got home boys that make good beats, but then I had noticed, like, before I left, everybody beats came from people that they knew. Like, people kind of stayed away from the YouTube beats and stuff like that. But, like, when I got out, it was the opposite. Everybody wanted the shit that sounded the best. So, like, a lot of times the niggas who got the most clout got the best. best sound, and people were just going on YouTube getting beats.

Yeah. So it's like the way that it worked, it's like, if I still a beat, if I just get a beat off YouTube and I make a song to it, more than likely ain't nothing going to happen. And the only way that something is going to happen is if the song blow up and if the song blow up, that's a good problem to have. Yeah. Because by default,

the producer owns 50% of the publishing. Right. You know what I'm saying? So if you, if me and you don't reach an agreement on your beat and I just take it, all that's going to happen is, okay, you made a million dollars off this beat, all for that a million dollars, $500 of it is for the composition of the song. Half of that goes as a producer, so you owe him a quarter million.

Yeah. But in order for me to owe you a quarter million, I got to make a million. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, exactly. So it's like, so everybody's just going on YouTube getting these beats. So the first song that I dropped, 2014, because this one of the other thing happened, was called shifting.

My dog Chaney made that beat. Who? My home boy Chaney. Okay. So, um, Schiffin is kind of more like Florida boy swear. You feel me, like, like, niggas down south,

like it, like, Brabara County, Palm Beach and Dead. Because it's kind of like some shit you stick to. Like, like, stick. Like, that's kind of like a dance. It's like a way of dancing. But then it's also like, like, like kind of when the niggas take ex P is like the type of music. Like here when they roll and shit like that.

So like, that's kind of more that swag. But then. And I did type of nigger. So type of nigger was kind of more, like my homeboy, Taz made that beat. But I didn't know Taz at the time. Taz is a nigga who, he kind of made that Detroit sign. And he done mastered it. He's one of the toughest niggas at it, you fear of me?

So how did you get Ross on that beat? Ross, okay. So when I was in the feds, I was locked up with a nigga named Cano. Cano was a Haitian nigga from Miami. He originally from New York, but he moved to Miami. And back when the Zopon niggas was blitzing the boats for the bricks, like they was calling them pirates because they was running on the boats and still in there, everything.

All the work? Yeah. So an informant actually told him like, hey, I know a boat that got some bricks on it. And when Cano ran on the boat, the agents was waiting for him. You feel me? Well, I never know bricks. It was just a setup. So he ended up following behind that shit and we locked down behind the wall.

We both had Coleman. We always kept each other information. so when I went to like pushing my route shit I was sending it to him and he would play it for Ross so that's how Ross heard it ross was fucked up by it and then it start off ross just liked the song but then he went from liking the song to want to get on the song then he went from getting on the song to sign to me you know what I said like he just kept gradually going up okay so did you had you released the song before Ross got on it yeah okay so you re-released it because everything that I saw on the video, like on YouTube and on Spotify, all features Rick Ross.

Yeah, yeah. Once I got down with MMG, we repackaged it and re-released. Okay, because it doesn't even say remix on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like it's a brand new, but that's smart, I think. Yeah, yeah. Because it looks like you just came out out of nowhere. You're this guy out of nowhere now.

It's all still recent. Yeah. Rose move off of inspiration. That niggum move fast. So did he, I assume you didn't have to pay him. He wanted to be on this shit. Yeah, he got on it for free. Yeah.

But then he was like, fuck that. I'm going to sign him. Okay. So tell us, because I'm fascinated by the music business nowadays in the digital world, how does a guy like Rick Ross make money off of you? How does his record label make money off a guy like you? I have no idea. Oh, okay.

That's a thing like I know in theory, but. How much money did he pay you a lump sum to sign you? Or what does that look like? And is that big money? He gave me a nice bag. But it's, is it seven? Is it seven figures? Totally.

Okay. But it's like, I don't know how he, like me. I know. I don't know how he going to make that money. I feel like he knows something I don't know because he's been in the music industry. It's like I know, like, I know like once somebody on like somebody like Travis Scott, somebody like Drake or Rod Wave, I know that once these niggas drop, what type of numbers they do. And it's like, so I guess if I was at that level, I could tell you how he's going to make the money back.

I don't know what has to be done for a nigga to get there. So what do you have to, he signed you for like how many, how many records? On the way the deal structure, it's like it's options. Right now I'm on to sign for one album. But we have options like, like just depending on how good a business go. If we both like how it's going, we'll extend, we have the option to extend the contract. and we don't like how it's going. Like, pretty much I can't get stuck.

It ain't going to be no situation where, like, I'm just put on the shelf and I can't release music, definitely. Like, how they used to fuck artists over. You'd roll us this many albums. It's not like that anymore. We're going to run it as. Like, the way that it's set up, we're going to run it this one time, see how I go.

So you basically got seven figures for one album. It's not like, yeah, when you put it like that, it's something like that. It's like, it's something like that. It's like, it's, something like that. Does he get a slice of like when you go on tour? Does he, do you keep all that money or does he get a slice of that?

The majority of the money get recouped from the music. The rest of the, like the rest of the stuff that I got going on if he get anything is small. Yeah. Okay. So it sounds like the majority of the money that's made from the record deal is from the record label is still from like Spotify spins, YouTube spins. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Because those are different deals. Like your publishing, you would get a publishing deal. Your merch, you would get like a merch deal. You know what I'm saying? Those different type of deals. Like a record deal is a record deal. They paying you for the recording. You know what I'm saying?

When you talk about a song, a song is two things. A song is the recording and the composition. So it's like if you got $2 at a song, make $1 goes towards a recording, two dollars goes towards, I mean, then the other dollar goes towards the composition. So if like you got Beyonce, and Beyonce make a song.

Beyonce going to go in the studio and sing that song. That's her dollar because she recorded it. But let's say Neo wrote it. Let's say DeVeemate the beat. That's the composition. The words and, like, you know, the music that could be put on a sheet or something like that. That's the composition.

Now, you got some artists that's big enough to what Beyonce, like, okay, I know I ain't writing nothing, but I still want some of the public. Right. But just like, just to break it down, that's how I go. You got the publishing, and you got the publisher,

which is the composition of the song, and then the recording. So when you sign a record deal, the money is coming from the recording. Right. Yeah. Okay. Got it.

So you're giving up, you're publishing, you're basically giving it all up. You're giving up those $2 in exchange for like a lump sum if you're getting a record deal. Is that correct? Are you still getting, you're still getting that $1,

and the record label keeps the, the publishing dollar. The regular label is going to recoup their money from the recorder. Okay. Unless you sign a 360. If you sign a 360, then they might be able to get it other ways. But a record deal, a traditional record deal, they recoup their money from the recorder. Right. Then you might sign a publishing deal.

Then you might sign a touring deal. I see. I see. Okay. So that's all separate. The record label is just the dollar from you singing. You rapping. Yeah.

Unless you sign a 360. Right. And that means they're taking money off your merch, your tours. They got two 70s. They got one 80s. Oh. Different shit. So it could just be carved out depending on the circumstances.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. That makes sense. So then what about your publishing? Do you still, like with Rick Ross, he's taking the dollar from your recording. Are you, do you own the publishing? Your own? Publishing is like it's worked out the world.

It's like I own a publishing, but they still get, A piece of it. So it's like they own, I own the publishing, I own my music. Yeah. But they still get a percentage of the money that it generates. Okay. But it's just a small percentage, like real small compared to the, to how much they made for the recording. Right. I see. Okay.

Yeah. Huh. Wow. So you, when is what else, what do you got to do to get that album out? Like, when can we expect it? I mean, we're planning it by, like, like, we just trying to time it. But if you look at the rollout, if you look at like the way that the gang going right now, people's debut albums are taking, like, a long time to come out. Like, L'Oreala debut album just came out, like, I think a month ago. But she blew up in 22. Like, when she made Fault, Nick, Frida, that shit was like in 2002.

Then she had the song tomorrow with Carter B, and she put out what looked like in the album to the fans, because we don't care. We just consume the music. Yeah. But, like, just me being a student of the game, I took the time to look it up and see that, that out of the time to look it up and see

that her first project was considered a mixtape you know what I'm saying so it's like it might feel like an album but it's usually like the first agreement is usually a mixtape

and an album so then that one that just came out last that was her first album okay yeah so you're taking your time with it it's one of two things happen in this day and age

either really push a lot of mixtapes and singles, dropping videos, in anticipation of the album. But then you got independent guys like Larry June that are dropping an album every month. The output, or two chains is like that. The output is insane because it's so much cheaper to make a song now.

Yeah. It's so, it's part of the reason that a lot of the rap sucks is because they don't have anything to talk about because they're just competing to see how much music they can put out. Yeah, because it's like that's the way algorithms work. Yeah. Yeah.

Stay in the hour. Whenever something new, we get, it do the best numbers. So if you keep on dropping, shit, keep on dropping, keep on dropping. That's how you made the most money because that's when you get the most dreams. So do you think you want to follow that route or do you think you want to just? No, no, I'm a, I'm a quantity over quantity, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what inspires me to make music. making a lot of music

just so I can make more money and manipulate these little puss ass computers that shit don't motivate me and shit don't inspire me it's like when I was a jit coming up I used to read the back of double Excel and the back of the source magazine because that's where they had the album reviews

like I know which albums got five mics I know which albums got double Xcel reviews me creating a body of work like that connect on that level that's what motivates me Yeah. So now I'm going to take my time with it. I'm like, you know.

We'll see what happens. Once you blow that money might motivate you to put some music out faster. But you got to thank. Kendrick made more money than all these niggles, and he don't drop that offer. Right. He doesn't drop that right. But good kid Matt City been on the charts for 12 years straight. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? That's why if you take your time and do it right, because I feel like I got the capacity to make an album like that. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? I'm gifted with the. pen or like I know how to do this rap shit for real. So it's like I'm in a different space because now it's like I feel like in a way I

perfected my crowd as far as like the pen. But like I've never been in a position where I could be a full-time rapper. Right. And like master the studio or master the stage. So that's the, that's the blessing that comes with this setup. You know what I'm saying? Just to develop completely as an order. That's right.

And that's what you're doing now. Yeah. You're putting all those other pieces together. in your toolbox and you're going on tour with Rick Ross? Whenever he goes. He got an offer to go on a tour now. Right now, he's just kind of like, you know, he rap hustler. So it's like he get bad to go different places and we show up and we show out.

But there is an offer on the table for him to go on a tour. I don't know if he's going to take it. If he take it, then I'll be opening for all. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good look. So, yeah, I mean, and is it when you, when you do drop your album, do you have to have new songs ready?

Because I assume a few of these singles are going to blow up, and now you're going to be headlining, going out selling your own tickets. That's already been going on. Are you moving tickets? I'm still doing the clubs. Yeah, that's where you start. They throw me on the fly so they could bring out all the dope boys

and the bad bitches and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? But, um, so do you have to have new music? My question was like, when your album drops and now people are coming to see you, do you have to have new songs ready for them? Or can you just hit them with the, do they want to hear the hits? People pretty much want to hear what they are, really familiar with. So it's right.

You put it out there. You see what connect with them in there. And then you go over your highlight reel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's better. Music's way better than comedy in that regard. Because I do stand-up comedy. But once you drop your special, you can't, because a joke is all.

all about surprise. So once an audience has heard it, you can't really go to the club now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to have new shit. Yeah, they go. No, music, you want to hear the hits, man. Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, you drop your new in between.

Wow, that's just exciting. I feel like this is like the old MTV jams. We're breaking an artist here. Yeah. Have you gone, are you going to go on no jumper while you're out here? Nah, nah, I ain't locked there with no jumper yet. Oh, I'll put you, if you're out here, well, I'll put you in touch with him. He's a good guy.

He would have you on. Okay, then. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a BET. You'll do that. You'll have all, see, you do the podcast rounds out here. And, man, like, I've been rooting for you.

Yeah, most down. What a fucking journey. I bet your mom is floored. She's over the moon. She, she hit me every day with, like, I feel like weird questions, like, off-the-wall question. Because, like, she's excited, but it's like, like, she's just so intrigued by, like, the inner work. It's like, how does this work? How does this work?

What are you going to do next? What does this mean? You know what I'm saying? It would be like the type of question he had. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, you'll be the biggest rapper out of St. Petersburg. Nah, no, Roy, I got the crown right now.

Who? Rod wave. Oh, I've heard of that guy. He got a crime right now. He got his land and I got mine. But, like, though, like up there. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He do. He do way bigger numbers than a lot of big rappers. Like he ain't just like, like it's a lot of niggas own, but he's just on. Well, the beauty of it is, man, you don't even have to be a star anymore to eat like really tough. Because like if you find, I mean, Grizzleda is the best example. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like the land of niggas got.

Man, they have an amazing lane. Yeah, like because they're for the hood, but they also get guys like me who love like really lyrical rap. But they're not like rap stars. And they got layers to it because like then they end. fashion and they're in the art. They end up. Yeah. Yeah. So there's so much opportunity for ancillary business. You know,

you don't have to be fucking Dr. Dre anymore. Yeah. But I ain't allowed. That's where the bag come from. And that's something that Rose would be drilling in my head. Like, like, he'll show me the world. So it's so many of the careers. Like, this shit don't come from the music, dog. Like, it just opened up the land for you. You feel? And I go.

It comes from wingstop. It comes from wind stops. It comes from having a whole record label full of artists. come from the Bel Air. It comes from the bamboo. It comes from the car shows. That's right.

That's right. Exactly. Exactly. So, man, well, I want to look at you, you know, or listen to you on Spotify or see you, you know, rolling with these giants and say, I had him on my show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's get you a big push, man. Tell people where they can find you.

All right. So pretty much all my socials are the same. Real Nino Breeze, that's on Instagram. That's on Facebook. That's on Twitter. that's on TikTok. The new shit, that thread, shit, everything the same.

At real, there's no breeze. You punch that in. You're going to find me. I'm on YouTube. I'm on Apple Music. I'm pretty much there with all. Yeah. And I would say start with his new single with Rick Ross.

Like, if you're, if you just, just, this is the best way to see him. And then just work your way into his library from there. Yeah, just go to Spotify. I was, you know, banging it on a loop on my way down here. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. First single, like, it was the perfect.

introduction they're gonna let you know what I'm about and it's called type of niggil that's it and I would recommend next time not having the N-word in your song we're gonna make you a little more mainstream yeah yeah people gotta be able everybody's got to be able to say the title of it yeah we gonna get it right on the next sign I'm like I'm like an old school music manager I'm like we gotta make you a star you got to change your name no man it's you know it's been a pleasure dude all right yeah man yeah check him out real Nino breeze uh up and coming for sure um and And yeah, we'll see you guys next week. Take care.