The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - JD Delay Reveals The Truth About The Antifa ICE Protests In Portland

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

JD Delay joins me to break down what he saw at the ICE detention facility protests in Portland—beyond the headlines. We talk crowd dynamics, police/federal response, claims of funding/organization, ...nearby residents caught in the middle, and how to keep nuance in a polarized media environment. -Firsthand play-by-play from the protest zone -Whether Portland is “burning” or if unrest is concentrated -Guns, snipers on rooftops, and crowd escalation tactics -Arrests, releases, and who’s actually pressing charges -Free speech vs. violence, and how to consume media critically Go Support JD! YouTube: ⁨@JdDelay5150⁩ IG: https://www.instagram.com/jd_delay Join The Patreon For Bonus Content! https://www.patreon.com/theconnectshow 00:00 Portland “war zone”? Why JD went to see for himself02:15 Intent: document both sides, not legacy-media takes03:26 City snapshot outside the ICE site07:30 Pepper gas + first confrontations09:12 Crowd size & who’s protesting vs. agitating13:03 DHS snipers, de-escalation, and leaving before it pops off15:33 How the experience shaped JD’s views on Antifa17:08 Police/federal response & arrest questions20:21 Attacks on independent journalists (Andy Ngo, etc.)26:32 Guns at protests? BB gun vs. real firearms29:21 Media narratives, politics, and “revenge” cycles44:16 Police presence changes the temperature46:59 Terror/ RICO debate vs. First Amendment rights54:14 “Laser tag” flyer & risks to aircraft1:11:11 Is Portland 95% fine? The broader picture1:17:17 Independent media, swatting, and safety1:22:50 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:08 There are people out there that are funded. They all have expensive equipment that's brand new. DHS had snipers on the roof. I look up and I see them pointed down at us. I started getting attacked by a lot of these people. One guy flashed a gun at us three times. And that's what my fear was, was that some dude's going to pull a gun and pointed at one of my guys, and my guys are going to unload on this dude.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And then the snipers are going to act accordingly. and try to handle the situation. So let's talk about this, because I normally never defend my hometown. It's a beautiful place. To me, it's an irrelevant place when you look at America. It's a place where people have just go to, like,
Starting point is 00:01:56 get away from the rest of the country. You're my boy, but I am more liberal politically than you. you for sure. And I've chat GPTed some things. So I want to hear your take, first of all, what it was like going to Portland when you went to the ICE protest, Antifa riots, however you would characterize them.
Starting point is 00:02:23 But I am going to do a little bit of fact-checking, too, just to keep this fair imbalance. Because while my fans, many of them are shitheads, they're kind of politically astute. So they're not as syncophanic as like, a lot of right wing channels. So just so you know, I'm not trying to like, I'm not pushing back,
Starting point is 00:02:41 but we will be doing a little bit of fact checking because I really want to know what the fuck's going on. But I also, you know, you know, I watch Tucker Carlson and he's saying, Paris is burning, Portland is burning. Like, I remember this over the pandemic, right? The BLM riots protests.
Starting point is 00:02:57 They were like, Portland is burned down. So I, the truth usually falls somewhere in the middle. Tell us about what you, did where you went, what it was like. Okay, absolutely. And just so you know, bro, I take no offense. If you have pushback, push me, Zaddy. I'm not, I'm not opposed to opposing viewpoints. But here's what I went down there with the specific intention, man. I went down there to see what was going on, to observe, to see and document from both sides. I wanted to offer people my microphone because, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:30 if you're doing a lawful protest and you have the intentions of a protest, it's, generally to bring as much attention to your cause as possible, right? Like, that's usually what a protest is about. Now, these people are masked, so I didn't think it would be any invasion of their privacy. They're also recording everything. So, you know, it didn't seem like it would be an affront to them. I went down there with a couple veterans that wanted to go with me, both of which were medics, and, you know, had also worked as fire, one was a firefighter, one was an EMT, we brought medical
Starting point is 00:04:04 supplies. Yes, they wore body armor. Yes, they had concealed carries. They're legal to do that. They're not felons. I didn't have any of that. I just went down there to hear what was going on, see what was actually going on, because I don't trust the right-wing media, and I don't trust the left-wing media. And I know that everybody is saying that like Portland's a war zone, Portland's on fire. I made sure to go to multiple neighborhoods in Portland before I went down to the ICE detention facility. These other neighborhoods in Portland, which I've lived in Portland. I loved Portland back in the day.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Portland back in the day to me was quirky and fun, and there was a lot of cars to steal and a lot of trouble to get in. These neighborhoods, the other neighborhoods outside of the ICE detention facility is, you know, very worst. There's a bunch of tents. There's a bunch of fentanyl ferrets.
Starting point is 00:04:56 There's shit on the streets, human feces in the sidewalks and stuff. But it's normal Portland type of behavior for the last few years since I've been back in Oregon. That's just par for the course, bro. It's not super crazy. All of the, you know, crazy activity is focused on this federal building that is an ICE detention facility.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Now, I'll say this right now. I don't know enough about who they're picking up, what type of due process they're getting, you know, how they're picking them up, how they're being treated inside to make a proper educated assessment on what ICE is doing. I was there to see what's going on on the street between protesters and, you know, if it becomes a riot, the second you, if you're a protester, the second you start breaking laws and being lawless and attacking people to me, that becomes a riot. I went there to see what they're doing. I went there to see if I saw abuses from the federal agents against the people. I also wanted to see if there were agitators from the other side
Starting point is 00:05:58 trying to escalate. I wanted to see if maybe it seemed like some of these protesters were funded or being paid. You know, yeah, yeah, exactly. And like they, you know, they have the green helmet people out there that are literally funded lawyers that are out there observing everything to defend the Antifa protesters. Now, I want to be very specific about this. I wholeheartedly do not believe that everyone down there is Antifa. I believe that there are people down there who just truly did.
Starting point is 00:06:28 disagree with what's going on in this country. And they're not an organized thing. They're just down there to show support, you know. And I acknowledge that there's a huge difference. I do believe that there are people out there that are funded. They all have expensive equipment that's brand new. Most of these people are barely functioning derelicts. You know, you can tell like they're, most of them are probably on hard drugs.
Starting point is 00:06:53 They live in squats and shit. How are you getting $1,500 worth of gear? go and do this and be prepared when they start shooting gas, stuff like that. They were immediately aggressive. There was an absolute fucking asshole in a chicken suit wearing an upside down American flag who didn't even let us get to the sidewalk before he was calling me a proud boy. I have never researched the proud boys enough to make an educated assessment of the proud boys either.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I just always heard they were white supremac. I don't like white supremacist. So I was like, yo, fuck you. That sucks. Why are you calling us that? It's also irrelevant. First of all, there's a lot of Latinos in the proud boys. And they haven't been around since like 2018.
Starting point is 00:07:38 So that's a pretty... Update your insults, buddy. Anyways. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I've been more educated a little bit about the proud boys. I'm going to be probably doing an interview with Enrique from the proud boys just to get a different side. I'm also totally open to doing an interview with somebody who is an active Antifa member
Starting point is 00:08:00 to allow opposing viewpoints from either side, every side, every angle. I have an interview set up with an ex-Antifa member who's going to tell us about the structure of the organization, the hierarchy, the way that they organize and all of this. I want to know from real people, because I don't trust the media. I just don't. So when I got down there, you know, we walked right in. into a nice little plume of pepper gas. They had been shooting the pepper gas bullets, you know, the paintball bullets, because they had
Starting point is 00:08:35 been getting wily on them. We came at a great time to get a throat full of that shit. You have flashbacks to the yard, I'm sure. Yeah, dog, yeah, absolutely. And I just went and, you know, I had my little microphone and I just started going up to people and being like, hey, do you want to tell us what's going on? Like, you know, why are you here today? I had a great interview with a guy who was a former Oregon National Guardsman who just
Starting point is 00:09:01 happened to be down there and disagreed with them sending in the National Guard. So he wanted to go down there and, you know, speak his mind. Great interview. Totally. I mean, he was a little bit probably drunk, but he was still pretty articulate and he gave us his opinion on the situation. I spoke to multiple people who refused to be on camera. I spoke to a police officer who said, we've been told we cannot affect any arrests down here.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And he said, I didn't sign up for this. This isn't what I wanted to do. I signed up to protect my community. You have to understand, Johnny, that right across the street from this ICE detention facility is a large apartment complex that's full of families. I spoke to a couple people who live in that apartment complex. This has been going on since the No King's protest, which I went to that here in Eugene. too, totally peaceful, totally just a protest. I support everybody's First Amendment right to protest.
Starting point is 00:09:58 That's a constitutional right. I don't have to agree with what you're protesting for to still want you to have that right. And I will fight and stand up for your right to do that. You know, what I saw in Eugene was, you know, there was a lot of negativity and anger there. And people were voicing that. And that's part of protesting. You know, what I saw, in Portland was way different. It was a completely different animal. You know, the people that live... Tell us how many people were there in your estimation?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Uh, you know, hard to estimate because they're broken up over little areas and everything, 100, 150. Okay. Somewhere in that realm. Um, you know, when I spoke to the people who lived in the apartment complex, who absolutely refused to be like, cameras had to be down. Uh, microphone. and I had to show them it was turned off. They were terrified.
Starting point is 00:10:54 They've been dealing with this for over 100 days down there. They can't get sleep. You know, they're barely functioning at work. They have kids that, you know, they're trying to get their kids to school. And on one hand, they're also getting tear gas that's coming in through their vents. So on one hand, you have the people that are out there protesting that are making a huge fucking noise. They're attacking federal officers. And then the tear gas comes out. And I do wonder if they're being way too liberal with that tear gas, considering there are little kids that live
Starting point is 00:11:30 right across the street. You know, and that's kind of what I was trying to get the gauge for is like, you know, who's doing what? Where do I see things that I agree with or disagree with? And being able to just give people on the ground, you know, at home, what's going on on the ground instead of these tainted narratives from both sides of the media. Well, they didn't fucking like that. And they didn't like me. And they didn't like the look of veterans. I think we had too high of a testosterone count.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Not nearly enough rainbow flags. None of us had one of those furry tail butt plugs sticking out of our skirt at the bottom. But you did have skirts on. Oh, fuck yeah, dog. You know what I'm saying? We were rocking out. I came ready for the party, dog.
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Starting point is 00:12:53 Spirits not sold in Virginia and North Carolina. Drink responsibly. B-21. It's funny that you would say that because I do have a custom-made kilt collection. I have a friend, very good friend who makes custom-made kiltz. And I have a kilt collection of custom-designed kiltz that we've worked on. And I don't throw logs, but I had the Volusia County. record for axe throwing, competitive axe throwing.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I worked at an axe throwing bar, bro. It was really cool. But, you know, they immediately got agitated with our presence. And they started calling us Nazi, fascist, white supremacist. You know, they called us proud boys. The whole gamut, the whole array, when literally I'm down there like, hey, no, first off, I'm not a Nazi, tell me why you're here. Like, you know, why are you mad?
Starting point is 00:13:46 That quickly devolved into a situation where we had about 60 of them completely surround and encompass us with flashlights and bullhorns with emergency sounds on the bullhorns. They were screaming at us. Now, myself, I have CBTSD. So this is a bit jarring for me. You know, I'm having flashbacks of the prison yard, you know, but I'm staying calm. I'm staying cool. My intention was to go peacefully and stay diplomatic.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And up until almost the very end, I did that when I finally snapped a little bit and said, fucking do something. And I was like, it's time to go. All JD's coming out. It's time to fucking go. Right. And we also did drone reconnaissance before we went out there. So I knew where the snipers on the roof was.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Because they had, DHS had snipers on the roof. And we were snugly between two buildings that had snipers on the roof. And I look up and I see him pointed down at us. And I knew that my guys were armed. One guy flashed a gun at us three times. And I know that if he would have fully pulled it out and started to point it, it would have, my guys would have shot him. And then who knows if the snipers are going to start shooting?
Starting point is 00:15:00 And I started thinking, this could turn into a mass casualty event very quickly. Right. And that's not why I'm here. I'm here for peace. I'm here to document. I'm here to be a journalist. I'm not here to end up with anybody getting hurt. So, can you, I know it's, is this just a guesstimation, but what do you think, if there's 150 people out there, right, scattered into little groups on the lawn of this ice building, right?
Starting point is 00:15:28 How many are there to just protest peacefully to voice their, their discontent with what's going on? And how many are our Antifa or Antifa light there to start shit and just, disrupt the community? I would say it seemed like about two-thirds of the people were at least aggressive, agitating things there to try to kick shit off. It seems like they really wanted to escalate the situation. They wanted to elevate things to, they were trying to incite violence out of us.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You know, and I particularly, when somebody tries to manipulate me like that, I don't like to give them what they want. So I would say it was about two-thirds of the people that were there. Now, I've been watching the live streams every single night. It's become my favorite sitcom. It's my favorite reality show ever. And genuinely, there are people there that are just there 100% because they disagree with what ICE is doing. They disagree with the current administration.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I have qualms with our current administration on some things. I'm not Republican. I'm not Democrat. I think like you, a lot of the times the truth lands somewhere in the middle. But to be so aggressively pursued, they were instigating in a way that was very terroristic and threatening to try to get violence out of us. They instantly, I went there with an open mind and it instantly sort of, to me, radicalized me against, okay, this is who Antifa is.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You know, the stuff that I've been hearing about these people is true. So I started researching a lot of it and watching videos of their violent attacks, what they did to Andy No. What they did to Katie Davis court. The multiple times they've tried to attack Tommy Boy out there. And Tommy Boy is 2 in O for getting the knockout. The last time he didn't even drop his phone. And Antifa dude runs towards him and on video is raising a thing of Bermace to Bear Mace Tommy. And Tommy just goes, boom, and puts him down for a seven-minute cement nap.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Tommy got two knockouts twice in a row. That's gangster. And which you should. You should be knocked out if you're coming out somebody with bear spray. Well, look what they did to Nick Sortor as well, bro. They swarmed him. One giant water buffalo of a trans. So it's a dude who identifies as a woman who pretends to be a leather dog on their free time,
Starting point is 00:18:02 attacked Nick Sortor, an independent journalist. And then multiple others attacked him. And they stabbed him with an umbrella, knocked him down. and they were kicking at him. And he's the one who got arrested. And that's what got the attention of the White House. That video, you can plainly see it. They use umbrellas.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Their main tactic is when they're going to assault you. They have people surround with umbrellas to try to make it so that the cameras can't document the violent crime. And that's very apparent in Nick Sortor's video of his assault. It's on my only fans. I mean, it's on X. Okay, good. Well, send it to me.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Send me your only fans too, if you wouldn't mind. And I'll pay for it. You know, I'm not cheap. It's worth it to see you in a kilt and a ball gag with an axe. Now, that's fucked up. So you were saying the police told you that they didn't have arresting power or what happened? Surely some people, you know, you can't. I mean, I find it hard to believe that no arrests were made.
Starting point is 00:19:09 they were doing blatantly illegal things in the middle of the day filming themselves. So here's the thing is that the ICE agents have affected arrests of people that are getting violent with them. And they end up being immediately released. They won't hold them at MCDC. The prosecutors will not push charges through, even though it's on video and they attack federal agents, which is part of the fucking problem. my guy. The other thing is the police themselves are not, they were told not to arrest people
Starting point is 00:19:45 down there. They were told not to do anything that could be interpreted as supporting ice in any way, shape, or form. And so the first arrest that the Portland PD really made was Nick Sortor, the independent journalist who got attacked. They arrested him for disorderly behavior. after being assaulted by multiple of them, being stabbed with an umbrella, and that whole thing started because they lit an American flag on fire, and he went and grabbed it, put the fire out, and that instigated that with them. He didn't want to see an American flag be burned. And so they arrested him, and that's why he was at the White House two days ago,
Starting point is 00:20:25 speaking with President Trump and Pam Bondi and Cash Patel, that whole thing that was a pretty wild press conference, to see my buddy Nick Shirley, who was down there the night that they swarmed us. Nick Shirley was down there. Nick Shirley had multiple death threats while he was down there. Nick Shirley was in the middle of being threatened when one of the DHS snipers put the laser sight on the Antifa dude who was threatening him. And that was the only reason that dude didn't assault Nick Shirley.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And they followed him back to his car and pulled a gun on him and told him they were going to make him the next Charlie Kirk. You know, he was at the White House, Andy No, Katie Davis court, Nick Sortor, these people who've been investigating and doing on-the-ground journalism, who Nick's been attacked in multiple cities across the U.S. covering this. This isn't just a Portland, Oregon problem. He went to the Antifa riot that was in Paris, France, not too long ago. A few days after he was at the protests in the U.K. with Tommy Robinson. So, you know, these independent journalists continually get attacked.
Starting point is 00:21:37 They gave Andy no a brain bleed. They kicked him in the head so many times while he was investigating them. They also another time beat him to a bloody pope, and he barely made it into a hotel. And the hotel wouldn't call 911 for him while these Antifa members waited outside for him. This has been an ongoing problem for years. Can we see if any arrests have been made in the assaults? of those two or three people. That happened in Portland, the Andy-Kno thing as well.
Starting point is 00:22:05 The Andy-No thing, I don't believe any arrests were made. They did just arrest the dude that pretends to be a woman, that pretends to be a leather dog who assaulted Nick Sortor. You should try to find the picture of him on the water park day. Yeah, I think that, I think that... He's only wearing a leather dog mask. Yeah, I think he's running for mayor. Oh, yeah, he'll definitely get it.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I think he's a frontrunner for a congress congressman of Oregon. Yeah. So, I mean, the arrests have mainly been, you know, they arrested a dude down there last night. I watched it on live stream. He's a veteran. He was trying to walk down the sidewalk. Antifa told him he was not allowed to walk down the sidewalk. He said, I'm a veteran.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I'll walk anywhere I fucking please in this country. And this dude who, he claims he's not a dude now, pushed a stick into his chest. He grabbed the stick and went like this. And of course, the dude coweres down. But then when he turns around to walk the opposite direction, they shove him. He goes back and hits the person who shoved him with the stick. And the police come and arrest him after he was assaulted. They've arrested Tommy Boy three times down there.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Every time. And it's on video. If I have the video, the Portland PD was given the video. Yeah. Like, dude walks up, kicks him. He knocks dude out. Yeah. Dude's on the fucking ground.
Starting point is 00:23:29 the second time with the bear Mace, he knocks dude out, and he gets arrested both times. It's crazy how they're only targeting people that aren't Antifa. But that means so these people get arrested, they go down, they get arrested by the feds. I don't know if it's ICE that does these arrests or it's just federal agents, right? They're arrested ostensibly they go down to the MCDC, right, the downtown Multnomah County Detention Center. I've been to that place, fond memories of that place. Yeah. But it sounds like then if they're being charged or try, if they're getting arrested by the feds,
Starting point is 00:24:09 it sounds like it's the assistant U.S. attorney, because if it's on the federal level, it's not the DA of Multnomah County. It's the assistant U.S. attorney, the AUSA, that's choosing not to charge these people, right? Like, well, what else could it be? That's honestly what it has to be, you know, because the, the, locals are not doing anything. The only time that the locals actually stepped up and started even having a presence down there was the day that Christy Noem came down there and had a talk with Tina Kotex, the tampon dictator of Oregon, and Chief Day, who is the police chief of the Portland
Starting point is 00:24:49 Bureau of Police, who walked out of that meeting looking like he got his shit pushed in all the way up to his throat, head down, face all red, looking like a dog who just got caught, eating his own shit. And that was the day that they actually did something. And they got a presence down there. Now they've gone down and they're actually doing something about it. And now that they're doing something about it and there's a police presence, all of a sudden the media is down there now.
Starting point is 00:25:17 All of a sudden, now that they're actually policing a little bit, the media is down there in the parts where it's just people in inflatable suits. They call them blowies. They're like furries, but they're in these blow-up suits, like the Antifa toad and, you know, all of that. And they're taking video of the dance parties, but not the violent assaults. You got all up Portland, dude. Keep Portland weird.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Even the Antifa's weird, dude. And look, listen, man, like the blowies, I may think that they're cringy, bro, but I support them. They're out there. If you're in a blowout. up inflatable suit. You're not assaulting people. You're just there exercising your First Amendment rights. I fucking have your back. Whether I agree with you or disagree with you. I could hate you. You are still an American citizen practicing your First Amendment rights. And I would hope
Starting point is 00:26:06 that you would do the same for me if my rights were under attack, bro. Well, that's my grandfather stormed the beaches of Normandy so people could wear blowies. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't in the war. I'm just kidding. I think he was he was well behind the lines dude we're a white educated family but so I guess the reason that that's curious to me though is that if they're arresting people for assaulting federal officers but then the U.S. government isn't choosing to charge them it kind of it kind of isn't consistent with what people like Tucker are saying where he's like it's the state and the state. cities that aren't doing anything, that's why the feds are coming in. But it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It sounds like it's the feds that are also not choosing to charge these people that commit a federal crime, assaulting a federal officer is a federal crime, is it not? So that's kind of why that's an important detail, though. But, you know, look, that could be changing, right?
Starting point is 00:27:10 That could be changing. Somebody needs to look into that because all of that is paperwork. And you know as well as I do, if it's paperwork, we could get that paperwork. So somebody needs to look into that. I haven't had time to do that. So I don't really want to speak to the validity or the invalidity of what you're saying because I just am not educated and I don't know for a fact. Right. But somebody looked that up. Really, really good point.
Starting point is 00:27:32 One of the fans look that up because that's a super important detail, right? It should be the Portland PD that are fucking arresting these people. But, you know, it's, yeah, it's a really, I'm trying to figure out, whether obviously I want to know if the fear mongering is justified right so that's why I asked
Starting point is 00:27:59 these questions now let me let me talk about like their armament you said one of them actually had a gun and was about to pull out that's wild to me because I never knew the Antifa especially the Portland Antifa to to carry
Starting point is 00:28:13 guns I always thought it was you know fucking whatever metal pipes and and bear spray and shit like that. I did not know them to actually be armed. That is terrifying. What is the status with that? Overall, are they starting to arm themselves?
Starting point is 00:28:29 I hope not. So we had one dude, and I can't vouch for the validity, like if his gun was an authentic real gun or not, to be honest with you. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. He was making it very well known that he had a gun. There's footage that surfaced day before yesterday. A dude brandished a gun at Tommy Bull.
Starting point is 00:28:48 because they know now that they can't knock him out because he's two and oh with them bitches. So this dude, this dude is like, oh, go, yo, bro, and trying to show his gun to Tommy. And Tommy's like, the police are everywhere. And Tommy's like, this dude's got a gun! This dude's got a gun! And the Portland PD walks slowly over, meander over. Sir, put your hands in the air. Like, super casual.
Starting point is 00:29:13 If somebody started yelling anywhere else that I had a gun in front of a bunch of cops, they're going to pull on me, bro. Like, it's super crazy to me their reaction here. And it's all on video and it's all out there on X. And it turns out that the dude was trying to intimidate them with a BB gun. So was it a BB gun? It very well may have been a BB gun that they were showing. That's inconsequential, though.
Starting point is 00:29:36 You could go, if you go rob a suit. My guys were legitimately armed, though. Right. My guys had the real shit. And that's what my fear was, was that some dude's going to pull a gun and pointed at one of my guys and my guys are going to unload on this dude. And then the snipers are going to act accordingly and try to handle the situation. And, you know, all of this is unnecessary, man.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Like, it doesn't need to come to violence is my thing. Lawfully fucking protest, dog. Do that shit. I support it. Yeah. So during the BLM protest that turned into riots, obviously tons of reports about agent provocateurs, places, you know, in Los Angeles where on the corners there would just be piles of bricks neatly stacked up, just in case you want to grab one and start smashing windows.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I saw none of that, none of that, just for the record. No, it's good. I saw none of that. I don't know if anybody down there was a Fed. You know, I never worry about the feds I can see. I worry about the feds I can't see. You know what I'm saying? But I saw nothing to that.
Starting point is 00:30:46 of court out there. Okay. Okay. Yeah, it's a real wild time, dude. It's a wild time and everybody, each side is blaming the other side and each side starting at the top politically is now taking revenge for what the last administration did. And then the next time the Democrats get in power, they're going to take further revenge on what the Republicans did, which was revenge for what the Democrats did. And now we're in a situation where we don't even know who started it. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how relevant who started it anymore. Like, it doesn't matter who started it. We need fucking adult leadership. It's ridiculous that our government is shut down right now because we hired people to do a job through elections. We pay them through our tax dollars. They have a fucking
Starting point is 00:31:36 job to do for the American people. And if this goes on long enough, uh, veterans aren't going to be getting their money. People on SSI aren't going to be getting their money. You know, there's all this shit that's at stake for the American people so that these people can have a dick measuring competition where they try to get 15 second sound bites on the news so they can get a little bit of clout the fuck. Yeah, they're still getting paid. They are absolutely getting paid. And, you know, so is Israel. Yeah. So there's that.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah. And that's another thing where I am more terrified of the state of Israel than I, of any Muslim country. I'll tell you that much. Because if Israel doesn't get exactly what they want, I mean, imagine this. I was thinking about this last night, and I have Israeli friends,
Starting point is 00:32:26 so I'm reading all the literature for when I have to argue with them because they try to drag you into an argument. Like when I speak on a podcast and I say something about Israel, I know I'm going to get four phone calls because they don't like freedom of speech. They don't even like their friends having freedom of speech because they're trying to argue an inarguable point.
Starting point is 00:32:47 They're defending something that's indefensible. So they just don't want anybody to talk about that. And now Larry Ellison, richest Zionist in the world buying TikTok, they're offering $7,000. I'm surprised you as a real influencer, has
Starting point is 00:33:03 not been hit up by the IDF. You know, you get $7,000 a pop for saying something positive every post on Israel. Did you know that? Nothing seven grand a post, dude. I think, I don't think that they, uh, I don't think they'd watch my content and be like, yeah, the dude's screaming about them being involved with Epstein. Uh, that's the guy. You know, the dude blaming Mossad.
Starting point is 00:33:26 That's the guy. We want to get him. I don't know. Maybe it would be a great thing to turn me. It is. Like you're not, it's not, it's not going to work. It's not going to happen. Um, and, you know, much like I was, I was actually offered money, uh, pre-election for the Democratic party to make certain videos. And I was like, I'm not doing that. No shit. There's absolutely no way. How did that work?
Starting point is 00:33:50 It wasn't $7,000 a fucking post. No, the Democrats don't have money. Influencers. No, they do. They have money, bro. But they pay a lot of their influencers. There's dark money. And just recently there was a TikTok scandal where there was a dark money group
Starting point is 00:34:06 that was, you know, exposed. And I'm sure that the right has that as well. Ben Chirio. I'm sure that there's certainly people on the right. you know, that the right just seems to be much more effective at it. Remember back in the day when everybody was like, the right is dusty as fuck and they can't meme. And now the right is killing the meme game, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:25 The right is killing the meme game. Everybody like, when I used to think of Republicans, I'm like, boomers, bro, boomers. People that probably still have their first Facebook account. Right. And now it's like, bro, they're killing it. And when the left does actually come out with a good meme, the people on the right are like, fuck yeah, that's my profile picture, which is the exact right way to handle it. They're leaning
Starting point is 00:34:46 into shit. You know, J.D. Vance is leaning into shit. Charlie Kirk, when he was on South Park, absolutely leaned into it, made Cartman as him, his profile picture, did a reaction video. You know, they're, they've become more relatable to the younger generation, which is a wild turn of events for me, personally. Send help is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. We're somewhere in the Gulf of Thailand. Getting us out of here should be your focus. I'm your boss. You work for me.
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Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah, I mean, memes are still propaganda, though. if you need to use propaganda, it's because you, in my opinion, your ideas don't hold real weight. And both sides use propaganda. I think what's,
Starting point is 00:35:53 I think what's become Republican now, real Republicans in the youth movement are not pro-Israel first. They're not, they're not people that like hate gay people, like old school, like Texas Republicans. I've been,
Starting point is 00:36:10 Texas. Old school Texas Republicans believe, you know, the abortion, the segregated schools, the, yeah, making war on everybody. To me, that's the Boomer Republican. And the Boomer Democrat is almost indistinguishable. They just believe in, Boomer Democrats are like Portland people who believe in essentially the same things that Republicans do, except, yeah, you can, you can commit crime in our city and smoke fentanyl and take a dump on the courthouse steps. That's like the only difference between the two. The problem
Starting point is 00:36:46 is the boomers. They need to go. And if my parents have to be the first ones, I love you. We'll see you next lifetime. You know what I mean? I think it's the boomers, dude. Honestly, bro, like if we would stop being so
Starting point is 00:37:01 indoctrinated by narratives that are fed to us through little screens constantly and we sat down and had discussions, I think that we'd have a much better chance at fixing our country. Because to be honest with you, and I'm saying this as a content creator, I'm saying this as an independent journalist, you know, the things that are coming through our phones can be incredibly toxic and it's incredibly easy to get stuck in an echo chamber. And to think that you, everybody who's on your side agrees with you and that's the whole
Starting point is 00:37:30 world and it's virtuous. And everybody's either like a woke person who wants to, you know, make your kid trans or everybody who's on the other side is a fascist or a Nazi. And the real truth is like, most of us are like Americans who would really like to be able to like fucking own a home at some point. Right. Who would like to be able to make a livable wage. Who would like people in our government that are mature adult leadership who are still
Starting point is 00:37:54 funny, still funny, but aren't trying to dig in our pockets and give it to foreign entities all the fucking time, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, the reason the government supposedly shut down right now is because they don't want to extend Obamacare under what the Democrats did during COVID. But it's like, guys, you're totally ignoring the fact that nobody has health care. And yes, let's just give another five billion to Ukraine, to Israel. Whatever you call it, we're sicker than any other developed
Starting point is 00:38:25 country. We're more suicide, more gun violence, all the metrics, dude. Like, why can't we have some fucking health care. Like nobody looks at the fact that people are hopeless. And that's why they go put on a pig mask and, and try to spray a fucking federal agent with bear spray. I got shit to do. I don't have time. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, and here's the thing, man. You know, we have a population of people that feel disenfranchised. Like they're not being heard. They're not being seen. They're not being represented. You know, these people promise us that they're going to work for us when they get in there until they get in there. And then they're clearly just their owned.
Starting point is 00:39:07 They're corporate butt puppets. And it's just a never-ending cycle. And I understood people's discontent and everything. But when it comes down to it, like burning down your neighborhood is not the fucking answer, bro. Robin, the Nike store and, you know, burning down the little Asian mart on the corner is not the fucking answer,
Starting point is 00:39:26 bro. So, you know, I like that they are focused with their situation in Portland right now on the federal building, but also attacking federal agents is going to come at a cost. Yeah, don't do that. That's just the reality, dude.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Like, it is. And, like, I started getting attacked by a lot of these people. When I started letting people know, hey, maybe don't make death threats against the president or, you know, the congressman you hate or federal agents on the internet,
Starting point is 00:39:54 because we can all see you, motherfucker. Like, we can, I know that you're slightly retarded, but, like, federal charges do exist. I promise you. I never thought that I would actually go to prison until I went to prison.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And I'm like, oh shit, this sucks dick. I hate this. Dude, consequences. So I was just trying to warn people, bro. And they started attacking me and calling me a fascist for literally trying to put them up on game, bro. But people are just so angry. They're so angry, bro. They're so tired of the status quo in this country.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Nobody feels like there's an American dream for them. But we know that past generations had it. I think everybody deserves health care, dog. I genuinely do. Do I trust our government not to fuck it up? No, dude, I don't. I think that, you know, if you look at, like, I have friends over in the UK and they have universal health care there and they're like, it's a fucking nightmare, dog.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It's a nightmare. It's terrible. I have friends in Canada who they're like, you know, I mean, it's okay. You have to wait three to six months to be seen and shit like that, which is kind of like what we have here in Oregon. And, you know, in Oregon, we have OHP. We've had it forever. You don't have to be a citizen to get it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 You don't have to be a resident to get it. You can just, you know, come here during the summer when it's livable as a homeless person. Get on OHP and, you know, get your butthole checked out and get new teeth or whatever you need. And then, you know, go back to Arizona. And, you know, you could seasonally be an Oregonian. And, you know, so that works. But it's so bogged down. And it takes so long to get anything done.
Starting point is 00:41:28 You know, I thank God that I'm able to afford health care for me and my family, you know, because we all have health problems, dog. But I really feel for people who don't have health care. I feel like it should be something that we fundamentally should be working on long before we give a single fucking dollar to any other country. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I have Canadian relatives. I mean, everybody complains about everything in every country. That's, we're complaining people as creatures. That's how things progress is we complain about shit.
Starting point is 00:42:03 You know what I mean? Like if it was dope to wear deer skins for underwear and live in caves, like that's what we'd be doing. You know what I mean? But we complain. But I hear the Canadian thing, yeah, you got to wait three to six months to see a doctor if you're on the kid. But in America, you're going to lose far more money.
Starting point is 00:42:24 If something happens to you, You're going to spend years working to try to make up what you lost because you broke your leg or you had appendicitis or you had to take a fucking an ambulance because something happened to you. You know what I mean? So it's, yeah, I guess I guess what I'm saying is as human beings, it's kind of natural to want violence against people above you that are actively working against you. but that you owe money to in taxes. It's like biologically ingrained. Like that's what happens when differences. It's the Bernie Sanders effect, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You know, Bernie Sanders, before he was a millionaire, was constantly talking shit about the millionaires. Now he's a millionaire and it's all, it's the billionaires. You know what I'm saying? It's like as you progress. It's the billionaire out, JD. Yeah, bro. Like, you know, it's always aimed upwards.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But that's how we deal with problems that become irreconcilable. There's nowhere else to go. No. We got to set the funk off. That was the Civil War. There can be no more slavery. It's a moral travesty. It's wrong. And the other side is like, no, this is our lifestyle. There is no reconciling. And that's when it becomes the violence. Do you believe that that's why it was cracked off? Definitely, definitely. I have to, I can't believe I hear people again like Tucker, who I really want to get on board. with some of the shit, but he just talks out of his neck like a stupid, racist, pandering jackass. Like, actually, so many Americans died in the Civil War. Yeah, dude, you deserve to die if you, because I've studied the history of the slave trade and American slavery.
Starting point is 00:44:11 There is no comparison to the Irish slave trade to the Muslim slave trade. It was the most brutal, institutionalized, profitable enterprise that built the country that built England with all the cotton we sent over there, built the modern world. And these, it was a genocide, five to 10 million, five to 10 million black people enslaved Africans died just on the middle passage coming over. Okay? The way they were treated in, in Haiti was even worse in Jamaica, even worse than the slaves that we had here. So yes, I fully support killing as many people that support that kind of evil. as it takes to become free.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I'm freedom first in everything I do. I think freedom, for all people. So but so I hear now this talk of civil war. Like that's like the, that's clickbait. Everything I see now is like civil war. Civil war in Europe. Civil war in, civil war in the United States. But I don't see like I feel like we're being,
Starting point is 00:45:18 I feel like it's a sciop, dude. I feel like they're trying to get people. They're just coming up with excuses. It's immigration, its attack on federal agent. I don't think these are big enough issues to make people want to kill each other. We want to kill the government. That's like the violence people feel. They don't want to externalize it on their neighbor.
Starting point is 00:45:39 These Antifa guys hate ICE because it's a, well, look, they're, I'm not defending them, but I'm just playing devil's advocate. They're battling against what they see as this evil government. that we see as evil too. It's just the means are different. I feel like we're being played. Well, I can tell you from my experience with Portland, both being there on the ground
Starting point is 00:46:04 and watching live streams from, you know, I have people that are on the protesters side and the counter-protester side whose live streams I check into every night for hours at a time, because I'm kind of obsessed. I'm like, it's my new autistic stem is to check this shit out.
Starting point is 00:46:23 It's like me, Bitcoin. That's all you watch Bitcoin videos. Yeah. So like here's the thing is that like I do I do not think that it's necessary at this point to bring in the National Guard. I think that what we needed was for
Starting point is 00:46:39 somebody to come in from the feds, spank Chief Day, spank, you know, Cotex, tell them do your fucking job or we're going to come in here. I think it was a leverage game. Yeah. And it kind of worked because now the police actually have a presence down there. And it's good that the police have a presence down there.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It's calmed the temperature down. Yeah. Just to have police presence so that the protests can be peaceful protests and these attacks can chill out. Now, there's still people that are agitated and agitators on both sides. Yeah. On both sides, bro. You know, and they're still- Were there counter-protesters down there?
Starting point is 00:47:17 When I was there, no, but there are now. Okay. Okay. There are counter-protesters down. there now. You know, it actually started, the first thing that I saw where there were counter protesters in force was a bunch of high school kids from out of town. I don't know if they were from boring or Sandy or one of these places that isn't Portland,
Starting point is 00:47:38 Portland, you know, showed up with their big trucks. For those of you that don't know Oregon, those are the sticks. Yeah. So they showed up and they just stood there and they chanted USA, USA, USA. say, and they were counter protesting Nick Sortor being arrested. Now, the Portland PD, in my opinion, still they're not. I have not seen them arresting actual Antifa members. The dude who attacked Tommy Boy, the third dude, they did arrest him because they had no
Starting point is 00:48:05 choice. It was a robbery. You know, he assaulted Tommy. He stole his phone. Tommy ended up getting it back. There was a chase. The dude fell down a ravine into the Willamette River and swam out to the Ross Bridge Island. And they found him out there soaking wet with hypothermia bleeding profusely at like 1.30 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So they arrested him, but he was out within a couple hours. You know, just the Portland PD down there and showing their faces more than just riding their bites through. It seems like that declaration of you're not allowed to intervene in any way, shape, or form. It seems like they've rescinded that. Good. And so that's good. I don't think sending in the National Guard is the answer. Do I think that Antifa as an organization, the designation of them being a domestic and foreign terrorist organization is appropriate?
Starting point is 00:48:59 1,000%. I believe that they're being funded. I believe they need to be dismantled. I don't believe everybody out there is Antifa. Like, I 100% with my soul believe that there are people out there who are an organized, you know, terrorist organization that have bad intentions. and they're funded by bad people. You know, the White House just announced yesterday that they have found $100 million of American taxpayer dollars
Starting point is 00:49:27 that were funded into Antifa. And, you know, they're being bused from Seattle into Portland to instigate, being bust back and forth. They have a little headquarters set up, a block away in an apartment where they're taking showers and shits and shifts, which honestly, I think that's great because they're not doing the Portland,
Starting point is 00:49:49 Portland norm of just shitting on the sidewalk. Right. At least they're using the toilet. That's great. But I don't, I want to stress this. I want to stress this because I think it's always important to protect people's First Amendment right to gather in protest. I don't believe that it's all of them. I believe that they're 100% there.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's well documented. These independent journalists have been documenting who they are and doxing them for years now since the 2020 shit erupted. and these people have been just non-stop doing this. And I 1,000% think that they need to figure out who's funding them. They need to dismantle that organization. Those people are going to do horribly in prison. When the twink who doesn't know what gender he is and hates, you know, white supremac gets to, you know, a federal prison full of white supremacist.
Starting point is 00:50:40 It's going to be a bad deal, bro. And I keep telling these people when they scream at me on X, like, hey, bro, like, chill out with admitting your Antifa. You know, half of them are like, Antifa's just an idea, not an organization. And then the other half are like, I'm Antifa, motherfucker. What are you going to do about it? Well, first off, sir, my broom has better physique than you. So calm your tits. I know you've got a lot of hormonal issues raging inside of you, maybe a little demonic possession going on. But stop saying that on the internet, dog, because the feds is here. The feds is 1,000% on the internet. So I think it's necessary. The feds are on the internet, but also it seems like the feds, you know, not in this
Starting point is 00:51:21 case necessarily, you know, but it seems like the feds are also behind a lot of this provocateuring when, especially when the protests are bigger. This is only 150 people. You can't really, you stand out as a Fed if you're trying to instigate, but that's what's, that's what the mind fuck is, right? I know you haven't done the interviews with them yet. I wish you had. That's, I can't wait to see those. Where is, where could the, where could the, money be coming from? Is it people say, you know, it's George Soros and these like left wing billionaires, but then you said it was $100 million worth of taxpayer money.
Starting point is 00:51:56 So how does that work? I think that we're going to be getting a full report of all of that from the FBI really soon. But, you know, they came out and announced it. Anna Paulina, Luna has been coming out and talking about this really strongly. I'm not, I don't support politicians. I don't care if you're left or right. I will support policy, but you're never going to catch me being like,
Starting point is 00:52:28 I'm in this party and I'm a supporter of this person. I look at each and everything they do, and I go, is this morally consistent with what I think is best for our country? Because that's what matters to me. And I don't mean the government. I mean the fucking people. Anna Paulina Luna,
Starting point is 00:52:43 I like and, uh, you know, I find myself consistently a great. with things that she says. Other things, not so much, but the majority of the things that she goes after,
Starting point is 00:52:54 she was the one who really pushed for that law in Florida that if you get caught raping somebody 13 or under, that you're eligible for the death penalty. And she's trying to make that national. So clearly, as somebody who,
Starting point is 00:53:07 the only party I support is the Woodchipper party, Woodchipper 2028, make pedophiles afraid again. Clearly, I'm going to be, you know, kind of a fan of that law. I wish I had one eighth of your marketing ability, dude.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Well, you know, I do actually have in process of getting wood chipper plushies made. So if you want a nice soft wood chipper to cuddle with at night, I got you. My fear about, I totally agree these people need to be rooted out and arrested if they've committed a crime. the problem with designating, especially U.S. citizens as terrorists, and you already know what I'm going to say, calling somebody terrorists or labeling something as terrorism gives the government wide birth to break the Constitution, to really get rid of your First Amendment rights,
Starting point is 00:54:05 and to lead us down a path, a dark path that we have not seen in our lifetimes, but that other countries know very well, and that's arresting political prisoners. You know, Trump calls, they call the people terrorists that are on drug boats bringing cocaine, which, by the way, they're all probably still doing both parties, right?
Starting point is 00:54:29 Like, to me, if you do cocaine or have done cocaine, you have no right to get mad at the people that supply it. You just don't, you know what I mean? So he blows up this alleged drug boat, which is already illegal, because you people have the right to a trial. They have the right to, you know, a defense
Starting point is 00:54:48 and to be tried before a jury of their peers. They're not even Venezuelan, by the way. They were Colombians. Most cocaine doesn't come out of Venezuela, yet they're using terrorism as a way to push us closer and closer into invading Venezuela. What does that do?
Starting point is 00:55:07 We're shut down. The government shut down, and they're trying to invade Venezuela. How does that help our country at all? How does it stop fentanyl? By the way, they produce no fentanyl in Venezuela. So do you see what I mean? That's my only fear with putting a label like terrorists on people.
Starting point is 00:55:28 If they commit acts of terror, of course, that's what you have. That's what our law enforcement bodies are here for. But when you bring politicians into it, that's what makes me nervous. You let the courts deal with it. what I mean? So here's the thing is they need to be looked into as as the terrorist organization. They've done enough, you know as well as I do, you only need like really a couple prerequisites to catch a RICO act. You know what I'm saying? And these people have this group, this organization that swears that they're not an organization until they're mad and they're like, I'm an
Starting point is 00:56:03 chief of bitch. But they've executed so many different absolutely terroristic, uh, types of things. And they organize and they have hierarchy and structure. Like, look at what they were planning for Saturday. You know, just this Saturday, they had flyers around the streets of Portland. Now, I don't know if it was them that put them up or the feds that put them up. But either way, you know, you can debate the validity of anything that you see. But we're going to assume it's them, though. There are flyers around the streets of Portland about a laser tag party because they are very,
Starting point is 00:56:40 that they've had the ghetto bird out there. They've had a chopper out there since the first night was the night that I went down there. And they actually shut down the airspace, so our drone had to cease and desist. Otherwise, I would add drone footage the entire time we were out there from above, you know, in crystal clear 4K because we had a commercial drone operator that was there with us to be able to get footage. But, you know, that ghetto bird's been out there since then. And it's been, what, like 10 days, some shit like that. they're mad about that.
Starting point is 00:57:11 So they've organized a party where they're all going to bring lasers and shine lasers at this federal helicopter in a metropolitan area. Do you know what happens to a fucking metropolitan area if a helicopter crashes in it, dog? It's a mass casualty event. The people, if they can determine that people in this organization were involved in trying to organize that event, That's a terrorist attack. Those people should be found, given due process, and if found guilty, they should spend the rest of their lives in fucking prison.
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Starting point is 00:58:10 Savings of up to $1 per gallon redeemable with $20 rewards dollars in your loyalty account at participating locations. Terms and conditions apply. Well, sure. I mean, I don't know about the rest of your life, but whatever. That's up to this is why we have a court system. And this is why we have its division of separation of powers. So I'm okay with the U.S. attorney in Portland taking down a group of agitators. that do this.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Charging them with Rico, right? Or whatever, criminal conspiracies. But be very careful when you hear politicians start labeling everybody as terrorists. And that's a classic dictator autocratic move, you know, that they've used in different countries all throughout history in order to justify what people call fascism and what I would agree with that.
Starting point is 00:59:05 It's fascistic, you know. The danger, of course, would be that you weaponize that against people that are political dissenters. Right. Of course. You know, that aren't trying to plan out these violent attacks and everything. So if we're taking them at face value, which you can never really do with any government, I don't care what government it is. I think governments are inherently corrupt just by nature. Um, you know, if, if you're taking them at face value, though, the idea of finding people who are, have perpetrated terrorist attacks or planning terrorist attacks and, you know, shutting them down, dismantling them,
Starting point is 00:59:40 putting them in prison, that's great. How they go about doing that completely different. It's the same way I feel about what they're doing with the ice and the ice facility in Portland. The right-wing media loves to put the sex offenders that they catch. And then I'm like, it gives me a little tingle in my fucking nutsack. I get all bricked up. Christy Nome's like, oh, so what were you convicted for?
Starting point is 01:00:03 and dude goes, a minor, and you're like, yeah, pedophile, get him. But how many Pablo's out in the field that are just like legitimately have been here for years, have families, are established, are paying into taxes that they'll never receive social security for or anything. You know, the illegal immigrants taxes are over $100 million a year in this country, what they pay in taxes. I think that's way understating it. But yeah, go ahead. It very well could be, just traceably. Traceably from a simple glance.
Starting point is 01:00:39 When it comes to the top Fortune 500 corporations in this country, it's about a little over 400. It's like $460 million. So almost they're doing almost a quarter of what the biggest corporations in this country are paying into taxes. And they'll never receive Social Security. They'll never receive benefits back from that. Now, in states like Oregon, California, Washington, are they getting health care and EBT and things like that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:06 But it's like it's very, a very minuscule number compared to what taxes they're actually paying into the system. So, you know, I don't know enough about who they're arresting or what due process they're getting to be able to give an educated opinion on that, which is why I don't. And that's why I just wanted to go out there and get everybody else's opinion as to why they were there. And they didn't like that. So they got very intimidating. They got aggressive. They got threatening. And I'm just not really one for that.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah, you're right when you basically said it's not the what. It's the how. It's not what you do. Yes, arrest people that are breaking the law, especially people that are breaking the law that want to cause mass casualties. Yes. But it's the how you do it. And that's the whole rub with America. It's like they got to find you.
Starting point is 01:02:01 It's not on you to prove that you're innocent. It's on you cock suckers to find enough evidence to prove me guilty. And that's what, you know, people like, again, I just point to Tucker because I really, because I'm a liberal person, you know, I'm liberal most, you know, except for like finances. You know, that's why I'm in Texas. I'm just dodging taxes. But like, I watch Tucker and I'm like, I want to like you, bro. But this guy wants freedom and limited guys.
Starting point is 01:02:29 government, but he wants our streets, he wants our streets to look like Dubai. He wants us to look like Singapore, where you can just get caned for jaywalking. I'm like, you mother, people have to realize if you want to live in a democratic free society where the government, where we have power over the government, not the other way around, you have to accept an element of risk, right? You have to accept that if you want to have guns, you have to, you kind of got to be prepared for some homicides, for some shooting deaths. Be careful. They got mad at Charlie Kirk for saying that.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Be careful. Exactly. But I'm just, I'm stating the fact, like, you don't want people, do you think all drug users should be in like the El Salvador prison? Should we have that here? No, here's the thing. And let me play a little devil's advocate to you, because I don't think that people should be caned.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I don't think that, you know, we need. need to, I honestly personally find it offensive that we mark people that are caught for simple drug possession as felons for the rest of their life. I think that's insane. Totally. That somebody who's caught with my first felony, I had $15 worth of meth. And for the rest of my life, I'm checking that box that says convicted felon. And it's very defeatist and it doesn't help from a recovery standpoint. Stigmatizing people like that is super counterintuitive to helping them get their life put back together. So I think that there's balance, though, because, you know, like what I see going on
Starting point is 01:04:03 as far as people getting busted for sex crimes, it's absolutely reprehensible that they are getting such little time. It's absolutely reprehensible that we have the dude who was out there in Colorado, who was arrested for multiple sex crimes and just repeatedly released. And then he ran up on a school, on the school yard, and just tried to swoop up kids. kids and he was caught and then immediately released a judge said he wasn't fit to stand trial so he goes right back out to the streets. I think again, this is one of those situations where rationality, common sense, and critical thinking would land you towards the middle of the two really overly
Starting point is 01:04:44 sensationalized sides of the political spectrum. Totally. Totally. Totally. I thought you were going to push back more. I thought we were going to, I thought we were going to clash. I thought we were going to sword fight, Bro. I'll sort of fight with you that way, baby. Yeah. Dude. Well, yeah, but like it starts at the top, right? Like, if Galane Maxwell had gotten a life sentence for aiding and abetting in sex crimes,
Starting point is 01:05:07 that sets the standard for the rest of the country. Like, this is what we do with people that commit the worst evil. And that's the, that is the worst evil. Do you know what I mean? So it's like the government doesn't teach us, the government doesn't, there's no leadership. Like you want it, you want us to act one way, but yet you want to cover up when you motherfuckers do it. Does that make any sense? 100%.
Starting point is 01:05:32 1,000%. And so you're trying to bring out the conspiracy theorist and the extremist in me at the same time. I 100% believe in public execution. When it comes to child sex crimes, horrific child sex crimes, I pay-per-view that shit, bring down the national debt. You know what I'm saying? Bring back Gladiator arenas. Dana White involved. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:55 Pedophile versus Woodchipper. Pedophile versus steamroller. Pedophile versus all that shit, bro. Can we get Rogan? Can we get Rogan announcing it? He would do it, dog. He would do it. And then when you talk about Galane Maxwell,
Starting point is 01:06:10 like, bro, like, why is she still being painted as his associate, his secretary, somebody who facilitated when she was his fucking handler? Look at her, look at who her dad was. Look at the fact that she, you know, she can pilot a submarine, a helicopter, an airplane. That bitch was
Starting point is 01:06:29 Mossad, bro. She was Epstein's handler. Straight up, bro. And Epstein was an asset for Mossad until he got busted in Florida and got a sweetheart deal and unnamed parties involved got complete immunity. And he got a sweetheart deal
Starting point is 01:06:45 where he was like, in work release and like he could go out and, you know, do his thing and just had to sleep in jail a couple hours a night. And the AUSA, the AUSA, the A, just sorry to cut you off, but the AUSA, the assistant U.S. attorney that gave him that sweetheart deal, went on record saying that he was told by higher-ups from Washington, D.C., to do that. Well, because he made a deal with the FBI, and we have the paperwork for that now. We have the paperwork saying that he cooperated and he's going to continue to cooperate with the FBI. See, I believe that he was a Mossad asset up until then.
Starting point is 01:07:21 And then I believe he was a shared mutual asset because, I mean, who isn't going to want blackmail material on some of the most powerful people in the world, Doug? You know what I'm saying? You got Prince Andrew out there. You got people from the Middle East out there. You got people from all around the world out there. And he's got videotape of them just wallering out kids. That's valuable in the world of, you know, just world powers. And when you see Netanyahu today, dog,
Starting point is 01:07:51 walking our politicians, it's hard not to think, hey, that blackmail is paying off. You know what I mean? Donald Trump, the way that he's handled the situation with Epstein is the most damning evidence against him, hands down categorically across the board. You know, the shit that he said in the past about, you know, if she wasn't my daughter, she has a really nice rack, you know, I'd be dating her and telling a 10 year old, I'll be dating you 10 years from now. Like, that's, you're fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:08:21 bro. Like that grab her by the pussy shit, that's fucking weird. But the way that, like, he gets immediately defensive when you talk about the Epstein situation now, like, you're weak-minded. I don't want you as a supporter if you care about the elites in the world raping little
Starting point is 01:08:37 kids. He's, dude, my guy, you're telling on yourself, bro. Yeah. Like, you're telling on yourself. That's the most obvious, conspicuous, confessional type shit I've ever seen. And it's like, mind-boggling that he doesn't see. He doesn't see it and that there's people out there that don't see it. And then, yeah, yet, not Netanyahu
Starting point is 01:08:56 blatantly telling people that he runs the U.S., uh, yeah, but he's kind of, in a blue dress, homie, Bill Clinton in a blue dress. Yeah, it's, he's kind of not wrong. And that kind of leads me to what I was saying earlier. And I know this is kind of off topic because we're talking about in Tifa in our country, but this, so he's being forced now to at least have a ceasefire over what's happening in Gaza and, you know, all the atrocities back and forth. He needs his war so bad. I feel like if he doesn't get everything he wants, bro, he's going to start, A, assassinating American high, top-level American leadership, and they have the capability to do it. Do you go look at what Charlie Kirk was saying, bro? He was straight up scared of those people. They're bugging,
Starting point is 01:09:44 they're putting surveillance shit around the White House. Fact. And, and he's, and he's, and, And he could, they have a nuclear weapon if it looks like, if we pull out, like if the next government, because Zionism is done amongst the young people. So when our next government comes up, whether it's right or left, and they say no more aid to Israel, you fucks, learn how to live peacefully, we're not giving you any money. I feel like they might just start nuke. They have a nuclear weapon. They could fire that bitch off to, even if it's not at us, to Iran.
Starting point is 01:10:19 and literally light up the whole world. And if that happens, Russia starts lobbying, could get us involved. I mean, it's, it's terrifying. It's terrifying. And this is why we don't get those $7,000 checks, my guy. But listen, Netanyard, if you're listening, BB, baby, I take it all back. DM me at I am Johnny Mitchell. And I can be bought, dude.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I'm not making JD delay money. JD, I'm not going to say it on camera, but JD told me what he's knocking down every month. He don't need your money. I need it. We're expanding. We need it. Oh, man. It's good to see you, buddy.
Starting point is 01:10:56 You're throwing me to the wolves, buddy. It's good to see you, man. I appreciate you. And I know that we don't see everything eye to eye. I just want you to know. I always love you. I always respect you. You open my eyes and you educate me about things.
Starting point is 01:11:08 And those are the most important people in my life for the people who don't agree with me about everything because I need that. I refuse to live in an echo chamber. I feel like it's counterinteching. to my growth and development as a human being, both morally, spiritually, emotionally. So I thank you for your friendship, man. And that's the way I feel about everybody that is respectful when they come to me, bro. Jady, I am astonished.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Your look says I am from Alabama, and I have these colors don't run on the back of my truck. But you just gave us the most balanced, reasonable, nuanced, analysis of what's going on, you should be, and you may be a politician someday. I know you don't want to, but like you have, you speak with like, you speak like an adult. Like you're really, that was just a lovely chat, dude. Bro, I'm just a convict. Nobody should take their political news or takes from me. I'm just a dude who really fucked up in life and I was blessed.
Starting point is 01:12:13 God gave me a second chance that I really don't feel. that I've earned. I try to live up to it every single day by trying to do things to make my community in the world a better place. But I'm just open, bro. I'm open-minded. And in defense of the people of Alabama, I went out to Alabama. I met some incredibly intelligent, articulate, well-rounded, educated people out there. I got to do a bust, a pedophile bust with Chris Hansen and the Blunt County Sheriff's Office. I'll always stick up for Alabama, bro. You know who you got to have on? this cat that used to, he's like a billionaire Mormon from Utah, and he used to fund international, like fund,
Starting point is 01:12:53 put his money behind like international mercenary pedophile busts, like all over the world, Thailand, Colombia. You should talk to that cat, bro. I'd love to, man. That's your lane, man. That's your lane. Yeah, dude. That's all I got.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Right on, brother. Hey, thank you for having me. on. I know your community is going to talk a lot of shit about me. It's okay. I still love you. Make sure to leave a comment about how much you hate me and you think I'm a fake piece of shit because it honestly will help Johnny's views and he
Starting point is 01:13:26 deserves it because he's a real life good guy. Bro, so are you, man. And I miss Oregon. What's your final assessment? Like, I think Portland is actually turning around. Like, I have a buddy who's working on like a whole ass, they're investing in like a whole ass farmer's market
Starting point is 01:13:42 downtown. Like, I just, can you tell the people that, like, Portland is actually, 95% of it is actually everything that people assume that it is. It's a beautiful city, nice people. There's a lot of creativity there. This is only, this is only 3%. This is Foster. This is Powell and Foster.
Starting point is 01:14:05 This is deep Portland, bro. This is not, you're not going to see this if you visit Portland. I promise you. Well, it depends, man, if you're going to like Troutdale or Lake. Oswego or whatever. There are neighborhoods in Portland that absolutely look like a third world country. And it sucks because I remember the Portland that I lived in years and years and years ago. But, you know, these were never really super vibrant neighborhoods anyway. They were party neighborhoods. You know what I'm saying? It's just gotten a lot worse. But I feel like in perspective,
Starting point is 01:14:34 because I go all around the country, fentanyl really had that effect on a lot of places. So there's always going to be neighborhoods in any metropolitan area that are going to look third world country war-torn type shit. The real dangers, you know, that are more than any other normal metropolitan area, are all focused at this one area. That's what all the debate is about. And, you know, the right will keep saying Portland, when they should be saying, you know, there's this area in Portland outside of the ICE detention center.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And, you know, the people on the left are saying, oh, it's a vibrant, beautiful city. Well, honestly, as far as businesses go, a lot of it's a ghost town. A lot of the places are boarded up still since 2020. Well, it's somewhere in between. Downtown's a little boarded up, a little vacant because after the pandemic, everybody, things just went, what do you call it? Everybody work from home. So, but that's the case in a lot of cities, man.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Like, I'm in Texas. I'm in a red state. Austin, dude, a mile and a half down from where the studio's at, there's a couple of homeless people fucking in the 95 degree heat right now for all of the Friday traffic. You know what I mean? I can smell it through my screen. Do you know what I'm saying? So it's a national problem.
Starting point is 01:15:52 And I think to like pick on like blue cities, you're, you're looking past the, you're looking past the real issue, which is why are people, why are so many Americans destroying, they feel so hopeless, they're destroying themselves with deadly drugs. You know what I mean? It's a spiritual thing. I still just think I would absolutely implore people not to trust the mainstream media. Regardless of what sides you're getting it from, whether it be CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, don't trust the mainstream media narrative. Understand that even, and this was really eye-opening to me when I went down to your studio in Compton, you know, thinking of Compton, you think, you know, heavy gang activity, all this, all that.
Starting point is 01:16:38 And then you go there and everybody's got community gardens and shit. Kids are walking down the street, completely unattended, well-dressed, looking clean, like their clothes are freshly pressed and all that. And, you know, just understand when the media is trying to tell you that, you know, this place is atrocious and it's a war zone, there's probably kids that walk to and from school there, bro. So, like, don't let the fear and the panic of the narrative from either side dictate to you what your opinion of the world is going to be.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Actually try to get independent media sources. For sure. and take both, because independent media kind of is the mainstream media now. Tucker is kind of the mainstream media. More people watch him than Fox. Joe Rogan is kind of the mainstream media. I tell people watch both,
Starting point is 01:17:25 try to travel and use your common sense and try to get somewhere in the middle, try to glean information from both sides of the independent political spectrum. You know what I mean? And try to arrive somewhere if you can, in the middle. See, I'm a hipster.
Starting point is 01:17:43 You're naming off huge names, and I do consider them, we agree on that. I consider them mainstream media. I'm talking about people that go out and live stream when this shit goes down. You know what I'm saying? People that are just the eyes on the street
Starting point is 01:17:54 that are normal citizens that, you know, have fucking day jobs or, you know, hopefully, thank God, I hope every single one of them gets to the point where, you know, where they're like where Cam Higby is, you know, where he can go out,
Starting point is 01:18:07 Nick Sortor, where they can go out and make this their, whole-time job. Nick Shirley, the biggest up-and-coming independent, right, journalist I've seen, puts himself at constant risk to go and show people what's really going on and gets assaulted everywhere that he goes and still refuses to take anybody with him. We're down there with them completely swarmed by Antifa and I'm like, they're screaming at us and they're screaming at him and I'm like, hey, homie, we're going to take off. Do you want to come with us so we make sure you get back to your shit safe and he's like no and i'm good i'm gonna be down here i like to be on my
Starting point is 01:18:41 onesie and uh you know almost got almost got assaulted by a dude and dhs stopped him with the with the laser pointer yeah and then on his way back to his car has a gun pulled on him and and his life threatened that dude does not get nearly enough clout bro nick shirley is a beast that nick shirley and i hate to shout this guy out but andrew callahan uh he's kind of more of a liberal he kind of has the more liberal perspective. So watch both of those dudes. You know what I mean? And then I'd like to see you doing more of this. You know, I know me and you are a little older, so we don't like to, we don't like to put our neck out as much. But I like, I like to see you doing this shit, bro. So maybe do some more of it. I mean it. You're very good at it, bro. Absolutely going to happen.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Absolutely going to happen, man. I just, you know, for me, traveling is really difficult. I'm a family man, bro. You know, I've got my wife. I've got my kids. I've got my elderly parents that I look after. But, you know, as much as I can be in the streets and loan people my platform from any side, bro, literally, as long as you're not a fucking pedophile, I would love to be able to give your opinion to the millions of people who tune in. I get, I get an average of 100 million views every month on YouTube. Right now I'm on an upswing.
Starting point is 01:19:56 It's like 137 million views in 28 days. I would like to be able to take your voice in your opinion. opinion and share it with the people who watch, whether I agree with you or disagree with you, just like I like to support people's protest constitutional rights, man. I think all of us should be hurt. So. Amen. Amen. Go. J.D. delay. You don't even need any more plugs. But if you're coming, if you're just seeing him for the first time and you're coming from my channel, go check him out. Check out that, when is that Antifa interview dropping? You got to, I want him on my shit too, bro. I will get you plugged in with him. I will get you plugged in with him. I will get
Starting point is 01:20:33 you plugged in with him. He's here. He's a local here in Eugene. So I'm nailing out a time to get him on here. I'm educating myself on the proud boys. And I know Enrique wants to come on and talk about it. I'm looking for someone who's active Antifa who wants to, you know, speak what their shit is, man, because I want to be able to cover it from all sides and give everybody a voice. But I'll link you with that, dude, Johnny. Okay. And then if you are active Antifa, you know, somebody that can that is active antifa do you want to give out your email right now absolutely not definitely not no the last time i did that bro it was i got such horrific shit and i've got such an influx of death threats right now bro just from like oh cool a message request and my dms on it's
Starting point is 01:21:22 oh okay cool you're threatening my family i've been swatted multiple times recently no i'll find somebody i live in eugene bro throw a rock it'll be fine my venmo is james Mitchell comic if you want JD's email. Wait, wait, wait, wait, you got swatted and then I'll let you go. What is that even, you're kidding me. That's like a serious, that happened? No, I've been swatted twice, bro. I've been swatted twice.
Starting point is 01:21:47 What does that mean again? So it's where, here's, here's what happens. Somebody calls the police and they say, hey, I'm JD Delay and I just killed my wife and daughter and I lit their bodies on fire and I'm about to kill myself. is what they did this last time. But to try to make extra steps, to try to cover their tracks, they called a veteran suicide crisis line to do this
Starting point is 01:22:09 so that they would have to call the police and have the police come out here. So, you know, what swatting is, is they try to say something so crazy that the police come and kick your door in with guns drawn. Right. You know, and they've done this to me twice,
Starting point is 01:22:24 but here's the thing that they don't understand is I'm not violently retarded like you. I'm not new at this. I'm not a mental. midget. When I moved back to Oregon and my platform was big, I got a hold of law enforcement because I'm a law-abiding citizen today and I don't have a problem with law enforcement. Call me a bootlicker in the comments. Make Johnny more money. But, you know, I called him and I let him know, you know, hey, this is who I am. This is where I live. This is what I do. Expect some
Starting point is 01:22:51 swatting calls. Here's my number. If you get a call, please have it on file with my address with the 911 dispatcher that, you know, to give me a call first so you guys don't get too worked up. And both times they've called me on their way out here. Hey, is everything okay? Yeah, dude, what do you mean? Like, chilling. You know, the last time they came out, I gave the officers some white monsters and some of our Halloween candy, probably the only trick-or-treaters will get this year, chopped it up with them because, you know, one of them had been involved in one of my high-speed chases back in the day. You know, some of them, you know, some of them, bro. Bro, like local law enforcement know who I am.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Some of them watch the content. They know what I'm doing today. You're not going to get them to come kick my fucking door in, homie. It's just not going to happen. I get a phone call and you waste their time and resources they could be using to go out there and catch a pedophile or a murderer or, you know, a child trafficker. And this last time really pissed me off because they used a veteran suicide hotline resource. And while they were dealing with this.
Starting point is 01:23:57 fake call, there could have been a veteran in crisis out there who didn't make it because this person is so up there badly phed pussy about something I said on the internet that they took up that resource and tried to do something fucked up like that. That's so fucked up. That's, yeah, don't do that guys. Don't do that. It's literally retarded. It's a state crime and it's a federal crime.
Starting point is 01:24:23 And they are tracing the numbers back. They're working on it. I believe it probably came. It may have been a local Antifa member who I pissed off, or it may have been somebody out in a state like Utah or something like that. And I will fly out there and I will testify against you. I don't care. I'm a citizen today.
Starting point is 01:24:42 You can call me whatever the fuck you need to. It doesn't bother me. I'm going to pursue it because you involved veterans. You fucking selfish, horrific piece of shit. Yeah. And you can get people killed. So we don't do that. And yeah, fuck him.
Starting point is 01:24:57 No swatting. J.D. Dude, my fucking man. So good to see you. So good to talk to you. And I'll see you and Eugene very soon, dude. I'm going to come do that comedy club. We're going to hang.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Yeah, bro. Let's do a show together down at Olson Run. It'll be fucking hilarious. It'll be a blast. And we'll definitely have a good time, man. I love you, bro. J.D. LA all over the internet.
Starting point is 01:25:20 America's savior. And I will see you guys soon. Take care of one. God damn it. Ha ha ha ha.

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