The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - LA Hood Legend Crip Mac Speaks On The Meaning Of Cripping, County Jail Fights & Feeding The Homeless

Episode Date: October 21, 2023

Crip Mac is a member of the dangerous 55th Street Crips in Los Angeles. He has spent his life in and out of county jail and state prisons. Mac joins the show to describe how life works in the Crips or...ganization, on the deadly streets of South Central, and the violent rules of gangs in prison. Check Out Crip Mac! IG: https://www.instagram.com/55thstreet_/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therealcripmac YouTube: @55thstreet_ and @macventures   This Episode Is Brought To You By The Following Sponsors: BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/connect Promo Code: CONNECT MOOD: https://hellomood.co/  Promo Code: CONNECT20, CONNECTFREE Join The Patreon For Bonus Content! https://www.patreon.com/theconnectshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:58 We know you gang bang. you on the streets now you're in here and sit you won't tell us where you're from all right you don't want to fade all right we got something for you what's up everyone today we have cripp mac on the podcast crit mac's blowing up all over the internet right now he's on the no jumper podcast with adam 22 he's a rapping sensation that's buzzing all over the streets of la he's on songs with snoop dog making tracks with corrupt uh the guy is blowing up and he's a crib he's from 55th street Crips right here in South Central. He's been in and out of jail.
Starting point is 00:01:34 He was talking to us about jail fights. What his key is when he's thrown hands in the county jail, his upbringing, and what he does now to give back to the community, he feeds the homeless. I mean, this guy is a real renaissance man. We love to have him as a guest. Of course, if you want extra Crip Mac bonus footage, sign up for the Patreon. Patreon.com slash The Connect Show. Without further ado, I give you CripM.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Mac, right here on The Connect with Johnny Mitchell. I also say, right, stay humble. Continue to feed the people. Continue to donate, continue to help people. That's when I see the lights behind me start to flash. And I didn't even think. I just hit it. I was driving like my life depended on.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Then I parked the car, popped out, closed the door, and I started running. And he pulls out a burner, shank. It's like six inches. And he passes it to me. And he goes, here, that's yours. Don't ever leave the cell block without this. He was the reason I made it out of.
Starting point is 00:02:30 that place alive. When you go to different cities around the country, you know, the Crips started, obviously, here in Los Angeles, and it got exported all over the country. So any Cripset, are you basically safe? Whether you go to Kansas City or New York,
Starting point is 00:02:46 are you still going to... It's a respect time, but you go different places. Yeah, you know. Yeah. So are you, you're from 55th Street? And what does that mean? 55th and what?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Normally, Dinker, Western Avenue. Yes, it's close to where we're at right now. And that's a hard. of South Central. And what set is that? What Crip set is that? Five-five neighborhood Crip, I say it proudly. Yeah. And you guys are, now, do you guys growing up, what was that like for you? I mean, shit, I came over there when I was a teenager. I was later. Oh, where are you from originally? Virginia, Ontario, California. Obviously, you're out there in the England Empire. Yeah. And what was it like? Was it gang banging out there? Out there's more so essays.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, for sure. For sure. Southsider, right? The Black Angels, essays, yeah. They live all around there. So you weren't really like tattooing yourself and doing all this Crips shit until you came to L.A. No, pretty much all my cousins since I was born. It's all Crips. They're all Crips. They're all Crips. I'm the youngest. How old are you? So I'm 30. My oldest cousin, 40. They all Crips, though. Yeah. So when I was young, that's all I seen was them Crips.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I was like, I'm going to do some. They all Crips. Fuck it. I'm going to see a Crips. It's like you motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah. I just don't have to see the most dangerous and the most five-Miss Crips out of all my cousins. Some might get mad. I don't get fuck. Homehood. What is, what is, what was Crippin like? What was Crippin like when you were, you know, really active in it?
Starting point is 00:04:05 You know, now you're a public figure and all that. No, just, I'm just, just a good man. He's the homeless and do great stuff. I have the community, you know, yeah, but it's dangerous. Tripping is dangerous. Because, because it's, but it looks different now because, you know, when you're down in this neighborhood, you don't see people out on the corners like you did back in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So it's like everybody gang banging from their living room? Like, what does that look like? My fuckers driving around in their cars. Yeah. You know? Driving around banging out of their Teslas and shit. Yeah. Selling dope?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Is that part of the game back in the day? That people make their increments. They do their thing. Mm-hmm. You know. Yeah. You got to eat. You got to take care.
Starting point is 00:04:44 You love five. Of course. Of course. What about the trap shops selling weed and shit? Is that still a hustle now that it's all legal? Weeds. It's legal now. So, you know, people that, yeah, they sell weed.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah. It's legal now. Right. Our Crips? are like, our gang bangers? still hustling weed, like, in the black market? I mean, they do that time. You got to eat.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, of course. So, because there's money in the game still, just because they're taxing the weed so much. I feel like, I feel like the... I'm pretty sure somebody could grab, you know, a couple of sacks themselves and say, hey, look, you know, I bought this and go ahead and, you know, make a quick little, you know, a little something. A little not. Yeah, but now they have these weed shops and everything.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Like, hey, people are not buying for motherfuckers hanging on the corn. Okay, even with the taxes, even what they're charging people? don't care. They'd rather go in the weed shot where they got the big booty, bloominable sit just to look at her, all of them in the weed shop, get their number and, you know, get a nice thing of weed and go somewhere. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a better customer service experience for sure. Right. Right. I miss... The air condition is real nice in there. Right. I see, where's your, uh, bring out the sponsor real quick. Bring out the sponsor the show. The old E. Oh, the old English, bro. You like old English? Well, I, I used to like it back when I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:05:56 bro. That's all we drank. I'd say probably like 2005, 2006. I drink this a little now. I like it, but, you know, I've been dealing with Cripp and Amigos. Yeah, for sure, for sure. You know what Crippin Amigos? No, I don't. I just said that.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Casamos. Oh, of course. Of course. You like Casamigos. Of course. I love tequila. That's the fly shit, eh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:14 That's king five fingers type of drink. That's cool. So you've really been elevating your game a little bit. Well, yeah, you know, now you got a little extra increments. You got a little better. Less of a hangover than this shit. Less of a hangover. You drink less of ease.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Your stomach would go. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You bought those, bro. I was, it reminded me like 1999. I was in the little Asian market. In a little Asian market.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I was six years old then. I was stealing Mama Bear's beer at five at her refrigerator. You were stealing this beer? She had it in her refrigerator. And so you were getting drunk at like five years old? I drank the shit out of that shit. Wow. But she'd whip me.
Starting point is 00:06:46 She gave me a spanking because as a kid, you can't do that. I sneak it when her and her boyfriend would go to sleep. Right, right. And ever says, I've been drinking. I love it. Yeah. I mean, we used to like, we used to use fake ID. and shit.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Oh, to buy it. Yeah, walking up to the, and they would be so bad that you could see, we would like put it. You know, gotta use fake ideas. I just get somebody in the corner and don't got no money, something. Yeah, that too.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Go in. Exactly. Exactly, bro. 250 each. I've never been the type to go in and, you know, help that young kids go get stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:15 You know. They don't need to be drinking this. Growing up how we did. Well, no, now young kids, they drink other stuff. They don't drink. What do they drink? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Hensey. Really? People like Hennessy. I mean, they always like Tennessee, but that's a little pricey. That's a little expensive. Kids got a couple increments. Yeah. How are the kids?
Starting point is 00:07:34 What are like the young gangbangers, like young Crippin, what are they into now? Are they into like online? Yeah, they get fast money. They're not going to work a job. But they never, but it's never been working a job. They didn't, you know, the dope kid's always been around. but are they into like, do you think like the smashing grabs you see? By the way, we talk, I'm not trying to get you to snitch.
Starting point is 00:08:01 We talk about crime on this podcast. Do you think like the smashing grabs? Do you think that's, well, because bad people are interested, you know, they don't know about L.A. A lot of these people, you know, this isn't like no jumper. You know what you could tell them. Go fight jail. They can learn every fucking thing in life. That's facts.
Starting point is 00:08:17 That's facts right there. When's the first time you went up? Jail? Yeah. I'll be going in and out of county jail when I was younger, though. Yeah, like downtown? LA County. L.A. County.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Seventh Division. Mincentral jail. Wayside. What's the roughest L.A. County jail? Ah, shit. I mean, CJ and Wayside. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah, it gets where it gets. You know, it's about pride and respect. You got to fight. Yeah, as soon as you get there, right? You got to. It's no choice. It's fade. You got to.
Starting point is 00:08:49 It's fade or you go to PC. You either fade or they might tie you up and take your clothes and shit. Still your commissary. Like, fuck, you know, I've seen that happen a couple guys, so I know it's bad.
Starting point is 00:09:01 By their own sets or by their own racists? Different gangbangers come up in there. We know you gang bang. We've seen you on the streets. Now you went here and sit,
Starting point is 00:09:09 you won't tell us where you're from. All right, you don't want to fade. All right, we got something for you. Yeah, it gets like that. And they tie your ass up. Yeah, win, lose or draw.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Five, your respect. Yeah. Your respect is everything. So who were you when you first get in there? there's like a shot caller that basically is organizing everybody and running itself. Just everybody from every hood is in there. Do Crips click up with Crips or is it different Cripp neighborhoods? Like 55th is together, Grape Streets together.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Every Cripp do they own Cripp thing. Everybody had their own car that they fuck with it on the streets. That's just how that is. Yeah. What was the wildest shit you've seen in L.A. County Jail? That's why they got tied up and got the commissary to it. How do you tie them up with like bed sheets or something? The sheets.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. Damn. Beat ass. Because they didn't want to fight. Wow. We know you from somewhere. We know you from somewhere. So.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You know, you got tattoos and you still not tell them motherfuckers where you're from. You scared to fight these niggas? Yeah. Oh, well. That's your loss. Who would you have to fight? Any fucking body I see, even if a motherfucker is as big as a gorilla. You got a fight car.
Starting point is 00:10:19 No, seriously. You're laughing. You got a fight car. Do you remember like a big dude that you were like scared to fight or squabble? I was never scared to fight any fucking body now. Having something like, well, goddamn, I know I'm going to get fucked up real bad. That type of, it's happened, you know. It's a big, big, big, big motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah. You just tell yourself, like, this one's going to hurt. You know it's going to hurt. You know it's going to hurt. But you know what? The most you fight, the better you'll get. And it's your respect is on the line. So take that beating or go in and fight hard.
Starting point is 00:10:52 That's all you got to do. What about the tats? When did you get those? Oh, yeah, the gang tats. Oh, yeah, you got, yeah. When'd you get those? Ah, shit, I got them about a few years now. My, my, my, about three years, three years.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Did you get them in jail or on the streets? Streets. Hoover, Killa. Yes, sir. So for all the people don't know, Hoover is also a Crip set. I mean, are they? Some are, some are. They run themselves.
Starting point is 00:11:21 They Hoover. Hoover. So, okay, because Hoover is like a famous, that's named after Larry Hoover, who was the original. No, Hoover is named after Hoover Street out here. Okay, so Larry Hoover was different. I don't know nothing about the motherfuckers. I just know I don't like them. But I know there's a street called Hoover Street up the street.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Right. And are they associated with, but they're a famous Cripset, right? Yeah, yeah, they are. Are they associated with a color or do they mainly just say, we're Hoover, you're 55th? the motherfuckers were orange Really? Wow. So they're not even,
Starting point is 00:11:57 they're not red or blue. That's hilarious, bro. What about the Bloods? What about, what do you think is deeper on the streets of L.A.? The blue or red? It's all the same.
Starting point is 00:12:11 It's about 50-50? About all the same. When you go to jail, when you go to county jail, it's wherever you land. It's no, hey, you're from here. We're going to put you here. No, this is,
Starting point is 00:12:21 where you're going. Yeah. If your homie's going to pull you, they're going to pull you where you're going. Other than that, you're stuck. It's been times I've been stuck. They were trying to pull me. I'm like, I'm just going to stay here. Because you don't get pulled sometimes.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You just got to stay. And everybody that come in there off that, off the, CJ bus going the wayside, you got to find out where they're from. You go under the stairs. You fight them. It's called program. You got to get out with them. It's your respect.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And when you get, when you're fighting in there, when you first get in there and you've got to fight for your respect, do you get taken to the hole after they break it up or do they, the guards know this is just what happens you're just programming. I mean, shit is up
Starting point is 00:12:59 shit, shit happens how it happens. Do you get sent to the hole though? Sometimes you do sometimes you don't. Yeah. Yeah. Tell us how you do the shit. Are the guards in there cool or? I would never say they are.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Uh, would they just do their job, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But are some of them busters? Like I know they used to what motherfuckers ass in there. I never really. seen it like that. See, a lot of that stuff changed from back around the time, probably when you were younger.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Around that time, because now this not, that's just not probably cruelty where they just beat people to death. Yeah. Not no mo. Yeah. Yeah. They let the inmates do that. You disrespect the right motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:13:37 That's an officer. He'll put you where it's just going to see you and nobody else don't. You got to watch. Yeah. Respect goes a long fucking way. So they'll take you that. Oh, yeah. They'll take a problem and they'll just throw them into the wrong unit.
Starting point is 00:13:48 No, they just hold with this. where you land at. So this is, this is where you at. You're here. Yeah. And they already know you ain't got no fucking people in here. They know,
Starting point is 00:13:56 but they want to see what you're going to do. Because you is a big, bad, disrespectful motherfucker, right? Yeah. Right. Yeah. So they're going to see how you handle yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Did, uh, what, handle yourself accordingly? Will you, will a car ever, like an L.A. County will,
Starting point is 00:14:11 do, do Bloods and Crips ever run in the same car? As a Crips, uh, no. As blacks, In prison, you could say more we run as a car, but really everybody still has a separate thing. But as a race, yeah, that's prison, though.
Starting point is 00:14:28 You never did prison time? I've done a couple. Where? Waska reception and CRC. That was 2017 and 2018, and I just did last year and got out May 17th. And that was when North Kern State Prison, Kern Valley. Oh, up there by Baker's Beach. Delano, yeah, Delano.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Wow, so what, you just got out? Yeah, but I've been out four months. Four and a half months. Oh, but I swear I've been seeing you on the internet longer than that. Yeah, because when did Adam? You were still talking about me. So how did you, how did you first blow up on the internet? Adam, no, no, really was I had a cat and some Popeye's chicken.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And I just made videos with my cat. And I, you know, I just drink a couple beers and talk with the cat. We made, we made our own conversations. I thought that was interesting. Yeah. You know, but once they realized, hey, This motherfucker really has this tattoo
Starting point is 00:15:20 I let them know I said hey look I said yeah I got I'm gonna go to county jail I'm a fight That's what I'm always gonna do Right This tattoo they're gonna have to burn it off
Starting point is 00:15:28 It ain't never coming off And I let them know my name And this is what I stand about And then I've been going in and out of county jail And I just stand on the shit Yeah Today's episode is sponsored by BetterHelp Get a break from your thoughts
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Starting point is 00:17:34 Cases and shit Yeah, there's nothing really Something that, you know It just happens sometimes Yeah Yeah What'd you go to prison for? Yeah, that was Billy Weston
Starting point is 00:17:45 Say it again? Billy Western. What is that? You can't figure what a Billy Western is? No. Billy Western. No, I'm still, I'm not familiar. What does a Western man has?
Starting point is 00:17:58 Oh, Billy West. You got pop with a gun or something? Yeah, Billy Western. Ah, there we go. I got from Western Avenue. Yeah, here we go. There we go. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Nah, you'd be good. My producer should have the good mic arms out. I got it. I got it. You got pop with a gun. So are you worried then about like gang enhancements? Like because obviously you're obviously from a set. No, I'm worried.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I do a lot of great stuff with the community, out the kindness of my heart. And, you know, people, the life, different people live, is how they live, right? Yeah. At the same time, we do live in, you know, this is dangerous out here. But I'm saying, like, when you went in front of the prosecutor,
Starting point is 00:18:39 when you got hemmed up this last time, they didn't try to enhance you on gang stuff? No, because, I mean, it's just like this. I do music. I feed the omics. I do stuff like that. I'm not an active gangbanger.
Starting point is 00:18:51 So you never had any violence on your sheet? No, not so much. I don't think there's no type of violence. I've had an argument with a woman. Well, well, we all been there. I mean, if everybody went to jail for arguing with their chick, man, we'd all be locked up. No, nothing like that. So tell us about, so you started making these videos in and out of, you know, when you'd be on the street,
Starting point is 00:19:15 Right, right, right. Started making these drinking, drinking 40s or oldie 24s talking with your cat. And then how did it happen after that? Did Adam 22 see you? Yeah, about a year later. Okay, cool. And then he gave you your own show on the No Jumper? No, that didn't happen right.
Starting point is 00:19:32 It was, it was, we, it happened like that. He let me come in. I had an interview. I think that was the year of 2020. I'm not understanding. It was. One of them is 2020, 2020. One of the years I'll have it.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Yeah. And that's, and so we, because I kept seeing you in my feet and I'm like, who is this motherfucker? And, and, and then how long you've been rapping? This is a teenager. Not long. Because, yeah, you got some nice rap, bro. It's cool. I like the beats I put with them.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Do you make beats too? I do not. No. So what's your ambitions with all this internet content stuff? You want to be a rapper? You want to be... Well, I just do it all. People say I'm naturally funny.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So if I'm naturally funny, I guess I'm a comedian. You know, let them think I'm a comedian. That's what they're going to think. Well, I guess what I'm a comedian. I just do music sometimes. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of nice with the internet. You can kind of be everything.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You know, you're just a personality. Yes, yeah. Just naturally going to get rich. But stay humble. A lot of people get rich, and they say, fuck everybody. Yeah. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah. Now, what about like... You know, you got to stay humble. Who do you like from the... from South Central in terms of rappers. Are you a Nipsey? Hussle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah. Nipsey Hussum. Did you know him before he passed? I did know Nipsey Hussle. I used to work in the shop with Sloss and Brewster. Oh, man. I used outside the shop. Oh, no shit.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I did, yeah. Wow, bro. What was he like? It was a good man. It was cool. He's cool. Everybody loved him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:05 He was cool. What happened to the dude that shot him? Oh, I don't know. I don't know anything about it. Because, you know, he killed that man in cold blood. Didn't have nothing to do. You know, it was just over a grudge. I just don't think things are going bad by him in prison right now.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It got to be, right? Oh, yeah. Somebody like that, I mean, he's got to be in PC or else he's, they can't, they're not letting that guy walk the line. No, no, no, no, they are. No, they gave him a lot of time, I know, though. Yeah. And Nipsey was cool.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Man, he was such a good guy. It seemed like, anyway. He was, I knew him. He was cool. It's unfortunate because. And I still know Black Sam. Black Sam. It's Crother.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I know it's Crother. Yeah, it's Crother. Bro, so you don't fuck with the letter B much, do you? Every blue moon, because I'm a C. And I wear a blue rag. It's a C rag. Sometimes I throw a B and something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Sometimes. Not all the time. Right. That's fair. It's good. Like I tell the kids, get good grades. A or something active and C is something cracking. You know, that means just trying to get something. Get an A or a C, man.
Starting point is 00:22:14 You're right. What, yeah, yeah. So are you out traveling? What kind of, where have you been since all this shit's been blowing up for you? Just, really just out here because, you know, everything that's going on. You know, sometimes in the Empire I was able to get a pass and go by Oakland.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I did a rap battle out there. We're active. He's pretty cool. He's from Grape Streets. He's a good guy. I did a rap with him, rap battle. It was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:22:46 It was in Oakland. And then after that, we were able to feed the homeless. Wow. So that was cool. I said, well, damn,
Starting point is 00:22:51 I could go different places and also feed the homeless different places. Yeah. And it's homeless everywhere. It's homeless everywhere. What do you think about that? Certainly homelessness has gotten worse in L.A.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Oh, you know what? L.A. is a place where if you don't grind, you don't eat. And I learned from my home boys like King Fife fingers and different people like that,
Starting point is 00:23:11 motherfuckeruckered to sleep in a fucking tent. They ain't doing no shit like that. No, no. You got to grind. You gotta get out there and get it. You got to get it. It's expensive.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You got it. You got it. You know. Were you ever homeless? Not so much homeless. I was staying from place by place. You know, I've been cripped crazy in my brain my whole life. I used to have a social security checks.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I was able to give a social security check to my auntie or a homeboy or something. I always had a spot somewhere. Yeah. And my beers had, you know, I want stuff to make my little money and I have a little spot. You know, but once I got into that parole shit, my auntie on 14. if it from Western, she wouldn't let me stay there the last prison time because she's like, you know, she smokes a little shit. So pretty much it wasn't a safe parole address.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah. They wasn't going by it. Yeah. They wasn't going by that shit. She was worried about her going to jail. Right. Because she's smoking dope or whatever. I mean, that's, that's, that's what's around.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah. That's what the elderly people. Yeah. I was going to ask that, you know, crack cocaine basically. Crack originated in South Central, where Rick Raw. in the 80s and everything. This was ground zero. Are the older...
Starting point is 00:24:18 So that's mainly an older generation thing, though. Yeah. Okay, so you don't see a lot of young people smoking crack anymore. Like 20-somethings? You see some burnt-out young sitches and young burnt-out niggas on crack. Yeah, wow. Up and down the street.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I was like, God damn, really? Yeah, seriously. What the fuck? Were you smoking your grandfather's crack? Right, right. How'd you be hooked on that shit? For sure, bro. What do you got a Jerry curl, too?
Starting point is 00:24:45 The old school motherfucker? He's funny as hell. We got to get you doing some open mics, bro. You know, I do stand-up comedy. I sure will. Bro, I got to get you open up for me a sudden. I would love to do that. Yeah, open mic.
Starting point is 00:25:00 That's cool. What about, do black people do meth now? Some people do, some don't. I would never say it's a race thing because a lot of people with different races do stuff. You know, Crip Mac's not a racist man. No, of course, and Johnny Mitchell's not either. I just remember from back in the day was, you know, I grew up in Portland, Oregon. So it was mostly the whites used meth and black people generally stuck with crack cocaine.
Starting point is 00:25:21 But I know now everything's changing. Everybody just does whatever they can. Yeah. Yeah. Are the streets fucking with fentanyl now? I heard that stuff that's called Chase the Dragon. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:25:33 It's like you get high off it, but you get so high. It's going to make you keep on wanting to go and go and go until you just kill yourself. Oh, I swear to God. I heard of a lot of people. There was a guy I was in prison with. And he told me his wife overdosed on that stuff when he came to prison. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Well, it's, dude. Well, Bargles my mind is it's so easy to OD on that. Yeah. It's so easy. Fentanyl. It's so easy. People are on that shit.
Starting point is 00:25:58 People are, like, I've had people die that have accidentally snorted a little because they thought they were doing Coke, right? But now these motherfuckers are just doing the fentanyl. They're not even like, it's not like,
Starting point is 00:26:10 I don't even want anything else. I want the thing that kills me. Of course, bro. We're just going to put on your flow. No, it's fine, man. Yeah, it's wild. Were there drugs when you were in jail or prison? Oh, people that, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:21 people are addicts everywhere around the world. Like, were they getting drugs into the jail? Oh, I do not know. You weren't using them, though? No, I don't use drugs. You're just a drinker. Oh, I love me some alcohol. I love me some fucking alcohol.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Did you drink when you were up top when you were in jail? I didn't have any increments to do that type of stuff. They didn't have, when you were, they didn't have somebody making the juice, the pruno. That type of shit, just lets your fucking fruit just riding. You can make it yourself. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:53 But I like stuff like that. You know, I like stuff like that. It does, it keeps your mind off your CM or your wife or whatever since you fucking. We're getting fucked out there on the streets while you're locked up. Most times they are. I'm not saying all, but most times it. So it fucks. your C.M. Your baby mama.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Right. That's what a C.M. It's your baby mama. You're a smart man. Well, so was she, did you have problems like that? Your girl running around on you while you were locked up? Well, I don't know. You're C.M. Maybe. Fucking snake. Shit. Live in five life.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Literally, five different lives and life. But then put it on your children, right? Hold on. Put it on your children. When I come home, everything's going to see all right, right? You put it on your kids. I know you don't even give a fuck about your kids. The whole time you got a man in prison.
Starting point is 00:27:43 We found out a man in prison come home. I come on. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so it just ruined me from having fun with other stitches that wanted a chance. I got other numbers that sitches wanted chances. They didn't get the chance because you ruin the shit.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Right. Because you was thirsty-five clock. See? Yeah. So you just got to watch things. Man, when I got locked up, bro, I tell you, I just let everybody who I was fuck with on the street, I just let them go.
Starting point is 00:28:07 because I if you think about what your girl's doing on the outside you can drive yourself mad bro you're gonna be they're gonna put you in that straight jacket to put you in that room no no no the padded room and shit did people kill themselves or hang themselves or do any kind of crazy shit when you were in jailed uh-oh i just i haven't seen that type of shit what's the what's the did you see like when you were in prison did you like did you hear about people getting stabbed or anything like that that's just that's just best part of that's part of life like getting locked did you get locked down like did you know have to lock everybody down?
Starting point is 00:28:38 They lock a lot of people down in prison. Prison is a very dangerous place. Prison is, don't go in debt. Mind your own seriousness and respect motherfuckers and keep your bed area clean. If they give you a chore,
Starting point is 00:28:55 do your chore and stay out of the other racist areas unless you're buying shit. You know what I'm saying? Give them their space. And I've learned that from prison. And I know some people that on the streets, they can't stay out with.
Starting point is 00:29:10 They go for a jail or prison. They get themselves right. I've seen it. Did you get yourself right when you were down, or do you think you just got worse? I would never say I got worse. I've gotten brighter. And I realize what people are snakes and what people aren't snakes. I realize that, and I realize everything that is going on with me is getting ready to make millions.
Starting point is 00:29:33 What I also say, right? stay humble continue to feed the people continue to donate continue to help people you know yeah but don't sell your asshole
Starting point is 00:29:45 your soul five million dollars because that's custard shit right don't do that are you uh do you keep protection like I know you're on paper
Starting point is 00:29:54 obviously right so you can't get caught with a Billy Western again right do you keep people around you that will keep you safe because you know everybody loved NipC
Starting point is 00:30:03 and he gave back to the community and look what happened to him So do you protect yourself? I just Crip. I'm a smart. I'm a smart Crip. I'm a smart guy. I'm a smart Cripp.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Show. As you go in nicer areas, you take care of citizens. You know, you do great stuff with the community. And remember, keep God first. God got us. Yeah. I'm starting to really believe that more and more. God got us.
Starting point is 00:30:30 No, seriously, he does. When you got locked up the last time, Right. You were already kind of popping on the internet. Did people recognize you when you went in? Oh, yeah. They get themselves pulled from dorm to dorm. I see five out of note.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'm like, I tell them how to fuck all these Hoover niggins end up right across from me? Literally. I'm like, oh, shit. This yard in the next hour. I got to go outside. And it ain't no staying in that motherfucking dorm. When it's yard time, you take your ass out there.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah. Yeah. And you got now you're a celebrity. You got a hood celebrity and you got Hoover Killer written on your forehead. Right. Yes, sir. So what's up? Are they trying to funk with you?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Are they like, do they like you? Because, you know, they like your content. Actually, you squabble with them. You know, you get their respect to. They like you. Then they let you know, hey, my wife likes your video. Some of them let you know, hey, my kids like your videos. You should put out some cartoon.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Like, you know, because after that, everybody, we have to live with each other. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, and plus all the other races and stuff. So we got to get along. But it's like, hey, it's something like, it's like drinking a cold old English or a cup of water. It's something you need. You got to get that shit out the way.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And that's just how the shit go. Yeah. That's how it goes. You got to get out of the way. So, all right, that's how we're going to do and do it. Like, well, fuck it. Let's go. Because my pride and my respect is 55th Street.
Starting point is 00:31:51 That's it. I love 55th Street. So, okay, how many of them did you have to fade? Oh, I had quite a lot of fades. But one-on-one, though, stand-up, right? It was head of faged. It was never a packhouse, no. It was head of fades, yeah, head of fakes, fair fades.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Did anybody get packed out? I never really see that that many times. You know, from other cars, that's not my cards. It's happened to people, you know, going in, you know, different holding tanks and stuff. But that's how that shit go. As you go on a holding tank, maybe somebody else's coming here. You get a head of fagg and they might want to come. They want to get anyone to pack you out.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Whatever. You know what I'm saying? Do you ever get anyone real good in a... I never, a pack out? Have I been packed out in the county jail? No, I haven't. On the street? On the streets I've been packed up.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Oh shit. What happened there? Those are 505th Street DPs. DPs are ahead of face. What's the DPs? Discipline. Right. Greetings.
Starting point is 00:32:47 You fucked up. You're going to learn your lesson. You're going to learn. You're going to learn your lesson. How'd you fuck up the time you got packed out? I've been fucking up so much. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of fucking up.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah. But you do learn your lesson. Yeah. You know. Did you get jumped in? Is that part of the... Oh, you got to get put on, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And that's just a pack out? That's just a... Head off phase and pack out. Yeah. You've got to fight. Yeah. Multiple times, it sounds like. Yeah, if you just let them just beat up all you,
Starting point is 00:33:17 they're not going to put you on you. Right, right. It's just going to beat you today, put you in the hospital, hurt you real bad. Now you start fighting back. Oh, all right, what this motherfucker got a little surviving them. Yeah, you got some art.
Starting point is 00:33:25 You know, exactly a heart of a lion. Mm-hmm. You know? But yeah, you can't just let all them guys just beat up on you. You got to fight. Did you ever see, do you ever see, like, shootouts when you were coming up on 15th? No, no, no. It's a dangerous place, but we don't stop.
Starting point is 00:33:40 It's just dangerous to say it's dangerous. Just say you wouldn't just want to walk through there with your sandals on. I think you're just going to walk down that street. Really? Oh, it's dangerous. That's dangerous. Like for outsiders or for even people who live there? People that live there.
Starting point is 00:33:55 But outsiders also. It's like, well, why are you over here? You don't know nobody over here. Yeah, that gets dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you never saw anybody like get smoked or heard about anybody, like gunshots and anything like that?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Oh, no, no, no. That type of stuff. Really? No. How dangerous could it be then? Oh. You take your ass over there and find out. I think I'm going to go find out.
Starting point is 00:34:17 No, it's dangerous now. Yeah. Yeah. That's it dangerous. So you're locked up. You're a celebrity now. Are people like helping you out with like commissary? No, no.
Starting point is 00:34:28 No, no. They're not. They're getting their enemy homies. to get pulled so they can fight with me. That's what the fuck they're doing. They're giving me no goddamn conversation. So it's almost worse to be known. No, they want that cloud of they got down with me.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Right. Because they know when I get home, I never lie about any stories in that fucking jail. So they want to get that shit. They want to get home and be like, yeah, I faded with Crip in the county. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And they know they'll hear about it on a podcast. You know, so a lot of them will try to get them pulled. Bro, if you ever, God forbid, if you ever go back, God forbid. Right? You got to make some content from, from the inside. You know?
Starting point is 00:35:04 I know there's some TikTok. Some TikTok accounts from prison are fire, bro. You ain't seen those? No, I wouldn't see fucking with the phones in there. Yeah. None of that type of shit, you know? Well. Just want to just stay cool, do your time.
Starting point is 00:35:17 You ain't going back. Anyway. No time. Get your workout in. Yeah. Write some new music. Write some movie scripts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Oh, I wrote scripts too while I was down. Oh, did you? Let's hear something. A movie script? Yeah. You know what? Give out your fucking ideas. You want to just recite it?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Give out all your ideas. Man, well, I'll tell you what, I'm making a movie's hard. It's so, it's almost impossible now, but now that this podcast shit is, is blowing up, because this was like a decade ago
Starting point is 00:35:46 when I was writing. You get all the big booty sisters now, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What did your wife think about it? She doesn't like it at all, bro. It's fucked up. It's so fucked up. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:35:56 just a little bit, baby. Just a little bit. Let me just, let me just bust her cushion. an asshole little. Exactly. Why I'm out of town, right? That's it. That's all.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And look, and you come right home to her. And you love her even more. You know, that's what I notice is after busting out some cooches. That's something to do with fame. If you're in a real relationship, you got to stay loyal with it. Yeah, of course. You got to stay loyal with it. Because it's like, well, why are you wasting this person's time?
Starting point is 00:36:20 You might as well just see single. But then when kids and babies are brought in the situation, like, oh, let's try to work this out for, you know, the baby. Yeah, totally. You know how that goes. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm done, I've been running the streets for so long.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I want to settle down, you know? Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. But you're getting older. What about you? Do you have a girlfriend? I have a girl I deal with now. She's cool. We're expecting something bloominful around the hood day.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Wow. Congratulations. Your first? Well, the actual baby that they said is actually a real, real baby in her tummy, yeah. Yeah. So many that have lied, so many years. Really? Try to put a baby on you?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah. Is that a thing in the hood? Is that a thing everyone? It's a thing we know Cud get incremental Let's try to get some shit out of Cuff. Yeah. But she showed that there actually is a baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And all the dates add up perfectly. She even told me, she said, we'll get a DNA test. And she told me just like this, she said, if the baby is not yours, right, I'll give you $1,000. But when I know it is yours, you give me $1,000. I saw, that's easy. That's all right. So you're confident like that.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah, but once you know the baby's yours, you're going to be spending a lot more in a thousand. Tell you that, buddy. Yeah, it was just a bet. Of course, man, of course. It's been a lot. You got to make sure the baby has clothes. You know, food, hygiene, baby hygiene.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Everything it needs. Toys, TVs, all types and stuff. You got to make sure. I always say, because how I live in my lifestyle, right? Well, because now I'm just a public figure. Yeah. I'm a celebrity. That's what I am.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I'm not out here hurting people doing things. I'm just working, doing interviews and doing music and feeding the homeless. So I would want the baby to, you know, feed the homeless also, you know, stuff like that. Go with Mama Bear and feed the homeless sometime, some weekends. Yeah, yeah. You know, and it's going to show real crap Matt got his kids doing this. Why can't we have our kids also do some great stuff with the community? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And also talk with younger kids of the baby's age and donate toys because it's going to have a lot of toys. Don't donate your toys. Don't see selfish. These kids don't have anything. You find me just giving out the kindness of your heart. Yeah, times is hard around here, bro. Oh, yeah. I know sometimes it is.
Starting point is 00:38:28 It's about to get real hard. You're going to hit a recession. You're going to see a lot more. Are we going to recession? We're going to recession, bro. But that's all right. Cats like me and you're going to be fine because we got the internet, man. We got unlimited market out there, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You know, that's... Yeah, we're going to see a hard. Smash and grabs. I meant to ask you about that. Now, what's going on with the hood, man? I mean, I want to get down on this shit. Because they don't even stop you, bro. I'm like thinking about running in there and getting me a Gucci bag.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Is that like a new hustle in the hood? I've never been into that type of shit. You know, when I... You're old school, though, like me, man. I'm not old school. I just hung around older crips. My cousins, I told you they all older. They're up to 40 years old.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah. What is older Cripping? Like, what do they see about the hood now that they don't like or that's just different? I mean, older cribs, they're trying to get money with the younger niggas my age and younger. And a little older than me, they try to, you know, they try to get their money. You know, everybody's trying to feed, you know, feed their love five. The best they can. Everybody's trying to survive.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Mm-hmm. Yeah. What's the main hustle, though, for, for the, the streets, I guess. In your opinion, you ain't stitch it on nobody. A motherfucker that's on a crystal meth or a motherfucker that's just hanging out on the corner. What hustle? No, like, what's the moneymaker, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:38 Shit, I don't know me. I've met so many different people. Yeah. So many different people. I met some women. I don't judge because I know we're in a recession, whatever, like you said, I've had some girls I've deal with that fucking running Walmart and take clothes and shit and go for a jail and call.
Starting point is 00:39:56 me like I'm in jail. What the fuck are you doing? I'm still in clothes to sell to, but I do realize it's rough. Yeah. It's like, God damn, you're gonna fuck yourself over like that. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:08 You know, and this was a nice lady I knew in the desert. She lived in the desert. Yeah. And I can put her name out there. What, does your, are your parents,
Starting point is 00:40:17 your father, mother, where are they? My pops are still in Ontario, California. He just started communicating with me since he's seen how five minutes, really got.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Right. You know, and then there's a fake motherfucker on the internet to say he's my father. He's not my father. Was he a Crip? What? Was your father a Crip back in the day? No, he was,
Starting point is 00:40:37 he was never a Crip, but when he was in high school in Ontario, he used to work out and run with the SOS years ago. Yeah. Yeah. He did some football and shit. Yeah, you're a big guy. Did you play football?
Starting point is 00:40:51 I never tried to do nothing. Yeah. Did you graduate high school? No, I didn't. You were out in the streets already. Yeah, I was trying, I was trying to see. God damn, how can I see the best Crip I can? You know, because all my cousins is Crips.
Starting point is 00:41:07 That was my whole thing. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, you were born into it, basically. No, born in it, it's like born and raised out here. I wasn't born and raised out here, you know, from Ontario, California origin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And I meet a lot of people from Ontario, different people like, you know, different essays. And they also got the Fourth Street Hustler Crips. out there, people like that. And they're like, well, yeah, why you end up not in the face? Why didn't you end up being from out here or hood out here? I'm like, well, my cousins, it's from Compton, and I got also some cousins from Six-O and Uncle from Six-O, which is out here.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yeah. So it wouldn't make sense. Yeah. But once you got here, it was easy to get into a cousin's all your cousins. Yeah, I got a Codon City Crette, Compton Crette, two from Six-O. I got cousins. Six-O-S-E. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I also got two cousins from Hoover also, though. Wow. They owe her. Do you go to family reunions with those tattoos? I don't. I'm going to be able to tell you that. Also, my auntie Madeline, she'll tell you that. And she said we should, but she knows how they get.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That side of my family, they're Belize and. You know what Belizeon. You know what Belizean. That's what they are. They name is Vernon. That's their last name. And they kind of, you know, they get hot-headed real fast. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So she's like, well, y'all, you know, you can come to a family union, but they know once they get off that alcohol, It might not see good fight me, even though I'm really that cousin by the Crip Blue Flesh. Yeah, right, right. On it, like, in real life. It seems like a Crip is a Crip. It seems like a Crip is a Crip. I don't know why these different sets.
Starting point is 00:42:39 The Cripp is the best thing that's going on in life. Yeah. Mark that down. Can we use that as Clickmate? Can I be honest with you? I grew up in Portland, Oregon. You know, we had B's and Cs in the 90s because they moved up there to get their hustle on. Oregon, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:54 There's a lot of people in Oregon. Watched it, Oregon out that way. Yeah. Do you know about Bs up in, or excuse me, C's, bees. Do you know about any Cs up there in Portland? They got some Samoans out there, huh, Oregon? Oh, Samoans, yeah, I mean, maybe. I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:44:28 It was famous all over the world. It was in movies. But yeah, I was definitely more, I leaned more Crip. You wanted to meet Tuki Williams, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:36 When I was a kid, I wanted to meet Toki Williams. Did everybody must have, like, he was like a legend. Oh, he was a legend. Man.
Starting point is 00:44:41 They should have let him live. Arnold Schwarzenegger, man. He was doing great stuff. He was doing great stuff. Writing kids books and stuff. You want to know that? Yeah. Peace prize for that.
Starting point is 00:44:50 You know, yeah, exactly. You know, but they said it was over a bench, a pressing competition. where I guess he won. That's what I heard.
Starting point is 00:44:58 What do you mean? Tuki won the bench pressing competition working out with Arnold Schwarzenegger. See, I was talking with some OG crypts in prison. You know, they're about Tuki's age. They're about 65. You know, they really knew them. They were in prison with them.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So they was letting me know. I'm like, you know, it's good to meet OGs. They really know about the older, older Crips shit. And what I do realize, they say back then gang banging was so much worse than it is now. And I think they write. No, of course they are. I just hear stories.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I'm like, damn, they say, yeah, it was rough. That's wild. So Tucci Williams beat Arnold in, like, a Venice beach back in the 70s. That's what I heard. I heard that that story's true. So you might have to Google it. But though that's what the man in prison told me. That's a scoop.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Not everybody in prison is just a lying motherfuckerack. This old man knew Tudukey Williams. No, and I actually believe that. And so, because Arnold, bro, when he was so competitive. Yeah, they said they were doing that. He was so competitive when he would lose, when he would lose a bodybuilding, competition. He would go into a huge depression because that was his whole identity back in the
Starting point is 00:46:00 70s. He had just come from Austria. And so decades later, Tuki Williams is on death row. He's changed his life. He's in San Quentin. He's writing kids books. And they asked Schwarzenegger, his time came up to get the gas chamber. And they said, Schwarzenegger, look at everything he's done. He was governor. He could have just said, hey, clemency. And he said, like a Roman emperor. He said death, death. That could, that was 2005 around that time. That's when all my cousins, you know, all my cousins is Crips. So they called me and told me about it. Now I'm interested in what's going on with Crips.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. That's crazy. I think if you talk to Arnold now, I think times have changed even since 2005. I bet Arnold would feel bad about that. I bet he would say that was a mistake. Because, you know, like the attitudes towards racism, gang banging, quote unquote, and just the system being incarcerated, people making mistakes. It's changed so much.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. It's gotten so much better. You know, it really has. I mean, uh, I think now it would be a different story. But look. Yeah, I think gang bang and now, that's why I ask modern crips like you. I'm like, what is gang banging now? We know what it was back in the day because there was so much money on the streets.
Starting point is 00:47:16 But now it's like, it just seems like an association or like a brotherhood. It doesn't really seem like a bunch of people involved in like organized criminal activity. No, no, it's just more like your love vibes, your people. Yeah. Cousins. Yeah. Yeah. What people have been there five of you when you had nothing.
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Starting point is 00:48:16 That's right. It seems like the most serious banging, you know, is actually on the inside. because that's where all these cats In a county jail In the county, right? Well, that's where you got to fight. That's where you got to fight. It's banditory.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's just no, it's no choice. Yeah. It's no fucking choice. It's your reputation on the line. Yeah. Wayside, did you ever go to the one downtown? What is the like the Twin Towers? That's no, men's central jail.
Starting point is 00:48:43 That's the men's center jail. What's that like? It's rough. You land where you land. What happens, happens. So, you know, when you go, you're just like, fuck. Yeah, but you go there, you only stay like a week.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Yeah, what's the long... But now that the process, how it's going now, you went right now, you would only stay there probably like two days and then go straight to the wayside. Oh, really? Now, when you get to the wayside, you're a lot better off of finding at least a couple of homies that they're not in there with you.
Starting point is 00:49:13 They're right next door. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And what goes around and that motherfucker comes around. Right, right. So if you're not doing nothing fair on that motherfucker, karma's going to come get you. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:22 People got to watch that about you. What would happen to a guy like me, non-affiliated? I'm just in there for like... And changing all your fucking bees to seeds in there? Yeah. They're going to make you fight. You're going to throw you in the beehive. What I really...
Starting point is 00:49:39 The deputy's going to throw you straight in the beehide. You know what the beehive is, right? No, no. Nothing but Damus. Damus is a respect term towards the bloods. Damu? Damu. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Damu. Yeah. Mac 10. I remember that. Mac 10 Because he was a blood. With Lupe and a corrupt's concert, Mac 10. Oh, for real?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Yeah, MC8. And his friend told me that Mac 10 wanted to do maybe a song or something with me. Oh, that'd be fly, bro. That'd be sick. Yeah, I'm going to make sure I get my lyrics right. I got to make it real nice. So Beehive is all bloods.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That's the Beehive. Yeah. Where are the blood sets around here? They're everywhere. Just like Crips. They're everywhere. Yeah, yeah. But what would, can a guy who's not affiliated
Starting point is 00:50:24 who's not claiming anything. Like I got locked up back in the day because I was a big time, you know, I was really moving weed, right? I got locked up. What would, if I went to the, downtown, right? Men's jail. I'm clearly not.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I'm not black, Hispanic. I'm not a weird. I'm a wood, I guess. So would I have to fight a wood? No. I mean, if you go in there on some scary shit, yeah, they're going to press you. Yeah. You go on there on some cool shit
Starting point is 00:50:54 because you could go on cool but never let nobody take advantage of you or get over on you. You got to fight. Yeah. You know, I don't care if this motherfucker looks like Brock Lezler.
Starting point is 00:51:02 That's a big motherfucker. Yeah. You know, and they have a lot of woods. I was in prison with that big, like him. Right. You know.
Starting point is 00:51:09 It's just, yeah, it's respect dang in prison. Yeah, yeah. You can't go let nobody run over you. That's what it's about. Of course, man.
Starting point is 00:51:16 You know, not everybody, you know, fights the best, but the bottom line is you get in there, win, lose a draw.
Starting point is 00:51:21 that's how it is it's a respect thing and another thing that goes well with fighting is also stamina working out yeah I've been doing my program time for you yeah man I hate fighting I hate when you you'd have to fight though and when you first get in there and you got the sandals on were you fighting in your sandals yeah bro I don't like fighting this
Starting point is 00:51:39 because I'm next thing you know I'm barefoot you know I'm in fighting in the shower no in the bathroom in the bathroom why do you have your shoes on because they didn't give you shoes until you're in there for like a week you got to order among canteen and so it takes like a week or two to get in. How many years ago you was there?
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's, yeah, that's, that's one time. Now you get some black shoes that look like sandals, but they're not sandals. Yours were open sandals? Yeah, open sandals. No. Ours was like, like shoes. Oh, so as soon as you go in, they give you those. You got the black shoes.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Gotcha, so you got some footwear at least. Yeah. Oh, they get. I got open foot. I got sandals on. What year was this? 2010. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:18 See, yeah. I wouldn't go in there. I wouldn't go in there yet. I wouldn't know to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They give you, it was these hard, like, plastic sandals, and they would always rip, and they were just shitty. So you would have to wait, like, you would have to lose a week.
Starting point is 00:52:31 You better have to lose a week. You better have something on your commissary. Exactly. You're not getting a new pair. You get in there now, you get your black shoes. Yeah. You know, got a little nifty increments. Also got people like King Five fingers and different people, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Oh, I like to get the white shoes. You got to get the white shoes. It has grip on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got to fight with those on. You can't fight with those others. So when you went in the last. time you had some money on your books because you you had been making some money right?
Starting point is 00:52:54 I had some nifty increments, but it was starting to run a little low and at King Five Fingers helped me with a lot. Yeah. People helped my mama. It's a lot nicer when you got some money to spend in there. Oh, yeah. And then Lupe and my mama was helping me do, I was doing interviews on the phone. Yeah. And that kept a few hundred extra dollars in doing shoutouts and shit.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I'm like, all right, cool, you know. Yeah. You know, it started helping a lot. That goes a long way. Oh, yeah. It started helping once they realize, hey, this is where he is. And how can we do this? What time is he going to call?
Starting point is 00:53:30 They know exactly the time you're going to call? Oh. And once they get that type of stuff and they get it out there, they blow up. So they don't mind spending a few hundred dollars. Exactly. You know? Exactly. Some great soups and coffee.
Starting point is 00:53:43 What did you get in there on the, on your, would you buy? I like the tuna spreads. Tune spreads are good. The hot chips, the summer sauces. you know, the chunks of chicken. Yeah. Make good spreads there. You can make your big caritos, put everything up in there.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I never made a carrito. Oh, you love them. I never made a carrito. What happened right? What is this tattoo? The Falcon? Well, it's such a team I like. Oh, that's Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:54:08 That's the Atlanta Falcons. No, no, but I'm saying that, is that the Atlanta Falcons? Because everybody realizes this is a real shitty team. Is that terrible? They are, but you know, that's the logo I like. So would you say this is your least favorite tattoo? No, no, I wear the hat. I wear it back.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I let my gang tats show, but I'd wear the hat. But I'd wear the hat. that's side. And when a guy like you goes in, goes into the system because you've been in and out so much now, do they take pictures of all the tats? And they take pictures and they put you in there. And they ask you where you're from? No, they already know. They already. It's already in record. I'm going in 2014. It's already in record. Yeah. They only got pictures of you. There already know. Right. A lot of them, they see me. It's just been times, hey, I wasn't. Um, CJ. And this time I was, I was at CJ and then I came home. CJ is what? Men's Central jail. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I was there and I came home. And it was the canteen lady, chocolate dark skin lady with a fat ass. So I get out of prison and I'm with the girl. I was with at the time just getting out recently from prison. And I see the canteen lady. She gets a picture with me. She said,
Starting point is 00:55:12 I remember you. So you didn't say shit to me. She said, I can't because it's my job. And I've seen her. I'm just thinking if I wasn't with this girl at the time, this one's a snake. I wouldn't wear out. I tell that's such a coochian asshole up.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I hope you hear me. Oh, goddamn. But yeah, it was like, wow. Wow. Look at that. Look at that. Yeah. Love that, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 What do you do? Man, it's fucking sucks missing, missing Cucci when you're locked up, bro. It fucking sucks. You wish you could just forget about it. You wish you were like, I'm on these hair pills now to keep from going bald, and I don't, I don't miss Coochie. You know what it does? I wish I took him when I was in there, bro. In jail, you fight you.
Starting point is 00:55:49 You fight just more on your workouts and stuff like that because you don't want to stress out over that shit. Right, right, right. You don't. What about the, you know, those cats that are sweet, right? The homosexuals, is it true? I heard in L.A. County, they put the gay dudes in, like, pink jumpsuits. Is that true? That's not true.
Starting point is 00:56:08 They're in powder blue. Powder blue? Yeah. But so they put them in different. They put them in their own little unit. They put them in their own unit. We got some gangbangers. We don't mention names.
Starting point is 00:56:18 They'll go in those powder blue fucking things just to go fuck with the punks. Really? Just to pull a mission? Is that what you call a mission? That ain't part of gang banging hood. A mission. To get some coochie hole.
Starting point is 00:56:34 We don't want to say B. Wait, so you mean... Oh, that's a cold goddamn. So, no, but there'll be some, there'll be some cats that will pretend to be gay just to go to the gay unit. Yeah, but they'll ask them different questions through processing to make sure
Starting point is 00:56:51 they want to make sure so where's the gate nightclub and all this old bullshit they want to make sure you're just not trying to get over here so you could disrespect this man's asshole that's not part of gang bang
Starting point is 00:57:02 so they'll ask you what kind of other questions they ask I don't know I've never been there I just hear about this shit you like would you make your voice go higher
Starting point is 00:57:10 or would you I wouldn't do none of it I don't that's not my getting on you know I beat your zone though um what is it you must have some gay cousins.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Nah, I don't have any gay. Isn't that what they, every black guy I know says, you know, every rapper, they're like, you know, everybody got a cousin in their family that's a little sweet. If they're gay, nobody know about it. None of my Crip cousins is gay. Not even the Crip cousins from Hoover I know is gay. That's surprising. The Beletians.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Yeah. Well, they really don't fuck with play that gay shit. No, collegians don't play that. No, collisions don't play that at all, bro. They barely eat pussy those island cats. You heard this? I eat pussy. I believe you eat pussy, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Look at you, your big soft sweetheart. Pound it, bro. You're big, soft. Oh, we're going to take care of and baby snaps out and beat his ass. You big soft, what? No, no, no, that was endearing, bro. Oh, it's a joke. It's endearing, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:04 No, because you're a very, you're a nice guy. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm cool. That's how you get those chicks to keep putting money on your books, you know? Some of them would try to see how much money they could get out of you. Why are you in that fucking? Oh, that's crazy. Oh, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:18 The snakes. Snakes. It's like I got my, you know, you know, when you meet a real woman when you meet her. Yeah. You know, you could, it's, it's in the air. It's different, right? It's in the air. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Is this, is this woman now that you're dealing with? Oh, she's a great woman. Yeah, she sees somebody I keep around. Are you excited to have a child? Hell yeah. It'll be fun, man. Yeah. That gives meaning to it.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And now you're making money. Now you got something to keep working towards. I keep the increments coming in, but yeah, the baby can have all the stuff. stuff it won't. Well, do you think it's your biggest moneymaker? If you don't mind me asking, is it the podcast? Is it like, is it rapping? Is it promoting? It's all of it. Now, because I'm working with China Mac. It's just the comedy shit with the Mac Venture shit. But yeah, the rapping is here and there. Yeah. People buy the features, but so many people are scamming my pages so they don't know where to get the shit no. Oh, they're making fake pages of you and shit.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah. That means you made it online. They come through, but I, a lot of, of people, and I do realize a lot of people are going through stuff. It's around the first of the month, so I let the people, they pay their rent. That's what they tell me. Hey, after I pay this rent, you know, let me pay my rent. I say, hey, I'm real cool. Go ahead and pay your rent. They'll hit me up in a couple days later.
Starting point is 00:59:33 That's when everybody, they tap it. But, you know, make sure you pay your rent. You don't want to live in a tent. No, no, no, no. Take care of your kids. Although a lot of people... The features are a great price. You can get them whenever you want them.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah, yeah. They're not going nowhere. Right, right, right. Yeah, they're not going nowhere. I really want one of those, bro. Those look delicious. No, no, no, no, no. I want them, but I'm not going to know this.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I can't have it because it just, I'm off some different shit. You know, when I'm off the 24 ounce old of gut, as we used to say, man, I'm a different person, you know. Oh. I'm like your Belizean cousins, bro. I'm trying to squab. I'm trying to, you know. Oh, you're one of them type of motherfuck. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:09 malt liquor, malt liquor just doesn't jive with my body anymore. You know what? I was talking with corrupt, you know, corrupt. Yeah, yeah. dog found. I was talking about him. Matter of fact, last week, me and Lupe was on the phone. Who's Lupe? Fiasco? Yeah, Lou's, no, no, no, Lupe. She used to drive me around. You probably seen her? No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Lupe. She's been on, uh, okay, she'd been on the podcast and she? She's been on podcast. Oh, okay, cool, cool, cool. She said, neighborhood borough. Oh, okay. You got to check her out. That's what's up. I will, yeah. But yeah, Lupe, she, uh, she pretty much knows how people they were, they were drinking. Yeah, yeah. So what did a corrupt say, though? Corrupt can't drink it either? No, he said, if he drank this, he said he'd be right back over there in the hood, just gangbanging all day, every day. No, he said, it's say, do shit to people. It does, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It's like it's its own drug, man. It's its own drug. The old English is, you got to respect it. It has to stay ice cold. It has to. It has to. It's like the sea, man. You got to respect the ocean because it's powerful, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Respect the ocean. Yeah, we used to drink bottles of that. What did you like? We also drank Mickey's. I'm not a Mickey Monkey type of guy Yeah, you never fuck with Mickey's. All right. My granny bear drinks and she calls it Mickey Monkeys.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah, yeah, we call them grenades. Those, those like round bottle shits that look like grenades. You pop them a green all day, bro, all day. What else? St. Nides back in the day. Oh, that's shit so nasty. Oh, it's so nasty, bro. That's just nasty.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Oh, steel reserve. It tastes like apples to that. Oh, steel reserve. I can't. I can't do it, bro. I can't do it. Silver can't. no steel reserve. Hell no. We used to, dude, we used to make, what do we call it? That 2-11,
Starting point is 01:01:48 they remind me of my good homeboy I had. He loved that. Dude, do you remember we used to fucking put orange juice when we drank the glass bottles, oldie? But ask monkeys, we used to pour the OJ into the... You gotta remember when you drink, you gotta eat. Oh yeah. Yeah. And also, when you drink, you got to drink, you got to drink all day with no water. You're gonna snap. You're going to pass out. You're going to pass out. Cuk your guts out. You're going to get up in jail.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Something's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see a lot of cats like withdrawing in jail, like coming down off dope or alcohol or anything? You know, most, most different people from off the streets, they'll come off of like heroin and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:02:30 They should be twitching and angry and shit. I remember they'd be wick screaming in the middle of the night. Yeah. Yeah. They'd be kicking the fucking thing. But, you know, you keep kicking it like that. if they're your race, right? You can fight them.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Oh, okay, yeah. You know, because you're disrespecting everybody else to sleep. Right. You're not respecting the program. You got to respect the program. You got to respect the program. You got to respect the program. You got to respect the program.
Starting point is 01:02:54 The other thing was, like, farting, I learned. Like, if you got to pass gas, you've got to sit on the toilet and flush that shit, bro. Yeah. You don't be fucking crop dust in a whole car. Yeah. That shit ain't cool, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I saw somebody learn that the hard way when I was down. Oh, did they beat them up real bad? They beat them up, bro, bro. and and I was like that's wrong. And then five days later, I was like, I get it. You know, when you're in there long enough. What's the longest county stretch you did? That's a year.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Man, that's so long, bro. Would you rather be in prison? I did the dumbest shit to go in and do that time. But when I came home, I got my show. What'd you do? Come on. I stole a psych over there on Vernon. A psych?
Starting point is 01:03:39 A bicycle. They gave you a year for a bicycle. I stole it I drove off on that motherfucker I was at the Popeye's chicken on King of Western Oh so you took it You took it off a guy who was riding it
Starting point is 01:03:53 No no I didn't snatch That probably would have been more gangbanging Like no I'd just seen it out That's more gang banging That's some gang bang That's gang bang That's like Grand Tifado Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:02 Just punch him off his bike and take it No it wasn't no shit like that It was just I've seen it It was all Crip blue Nice That's a nice bike Oh Crip Blue It was a
Starting point is 01:04:17 Not a huffy A beach A beach rider A beach yeah Beach cruiser Yes I took it And I drove off
Starting point is 01:04:25 Now I don't get it Down there And I came all the way up West All the way to King And western Yeah I was that Popeye's chicken
Starting point is 01:04:33 Drinking old English Ordering chicken All right least pulled up About 10 deep Oh no A couple of motherfuckers came And say Cull stole my sight
Starting point is 01:04:41 I said, Cah, you're telling on me and you're crap. Oh, no. I said, I went to file jail. I did a whole fucking year off of a bicycle. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:50 because they said it was granted, follow this and that type shit. Like, I guess. Is that why you got the bicycle on your hand
Starting point is 01:04:58 that's crossed out? Well, I'm a rich brother. I'd rather have a car. That's a little better. Show the camera that, bro. You got a bicycle
Starting point is 01:05:05 tattooed on your hand, bro. You got a psych. Ah! My hand thingy. Bro, so you didn't have a good lawyer, I guess. I'd have increments to get shit. Because now you got some lawyer money now.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I got a little nifty income. I didn't have no income. What year was that? 2015. Oh, see, because now, bro, I was going to say, now you can shoplift almost as much as you want. They're not even going to send you downtown for that. I don't want to shoplift.
Starting point is 01:05:35 For a psych, but I'm just saying, like, that's how much times have changed. Like, we've gone so far the other way. You know, like a year for a psych is too much. You don't have to shoplift. What's that? You don't have to shoplift. No, you don't have to shoplift.
Starting point is 01:05:49 No. What are you kidding? You're looking how white I am, dude. But, but no, I mean, that's wild, bro. That's wild. County time is the worst. I was locked up fighting my case for eight months, but I was facing like five. I was facing Fed time.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Was that the max? Five years was max. Five years was max. Yeah. Oh, well, you know how you do that? a lot of people do when you're in the inside and you're just stuck in there. I say, all right, the max is five years.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You're definitely not going for a trial if you know something's not right with it. Right, right. Don't do that. But I've seen a lot of people say, fuck it. Let me go trial and just bang their whole fucking self out. Like, you didn't give a fuck about nothing. And they just max them out.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And how are you going to just continue to just lie to the judge and the police when they got the camera? I know, right? And it's just like, what the fuck? But you know, some people don't want to go up fight prison and do the little time. Right. But I would rather, but my whole thing was like, get me to the penitentiary. Never go for a trial.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I wouldn't ever. Even if you were innocent, though? Even if you did not guilty? I think they might lie and say I did. I just, I won't, I won't chance to shit. Yeah, yeah. Did you see anybody go in who was genuinely not guilty and beat their case? I ain't never seen that shit like that, no.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Some people have, some people don't. As a matter of fact, I do know a couple people that have, they beat a couple of murder cases, but they brag so much. They just took them and booked them on the same shit. The police system's some thirsty motherfuckers. So you just got to take care of yourself, take care of your love fives, and just stay out the way, man. Yeah, you got to stay out the way. And after you catch a couple of cases, that's really when you got to say, all right, I'm done. Because if you keep going back, they're just going to, they're going to spank you harder and harder and harder.
Starting point is 01:07:40 That sounds so fucking sick. You're a sick man. I'm sorry. That's how I'm a little sick. I'm a little sick, but you know what? Are we all? Yeah. Do they put, do they put like homeless people?
Starting point is 01:07:57 Do they separate? Oh, no. The homeless, they'll give you COVID. They hang out in the holding tank with you. Oh, night straight. It's terrible. Yeah, right. But do they separate them from like the gangbangers and the roof?
Starting point is 01:08:09 No, no. The homeless people, they don't know. The homeless people, they, they can go where they choose. Yeah. No, I'm saying when you get locked up. No, wherever they choose. Oh, okay. You got a choice where the fuck you want to go.
Starting point is 01:08:18 So I can go with this car. I can go with this car. No, not that. I'm talking about where, for a GP or you just want to just, I don't know. People choose their different little shit. Do the, the CG, Central Jail, Wayside? Do they have, like, a wing for, like, people that got bad paperwork? Is that a thing?
Starting point is 01:08:37 Like, shit, if you have your paperwork. like that and you choose you want to go on the mainline do it. It's a show, show choice. It's just got the consequence. Do they have paperwork checks in county in L.A.? People find out stuff. Yeah, yeah. People find out stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Do people, if you ever see people with bad paperwork get packed out? I've seen them leave in the middle of the night. Really? Oh yeah, in the middle of the night. That's how they sneak out, right? Yeah. You got county jail and prison and something else, and then you've got the South, the Great Southside.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Yeah, they watch their people sometimes in the night To make show, you don't want to go and sneak up out this motherfucker Right So, you know, the night they watch Right Watch to make show Right, and if they catch you sneaking out They're gonna put out
Starting point is 01:09:25 Oh, gosh, they don't give a fuck If they're gonna spray you down with that gas or not Start shooting that shit at them, they don't give a fuck They're coming after you Oh yeah At any time Wow There's some brave motherfucker shout out to South Siders
Starting point is 01:09:37 South Siders The Mexican, you know, set in there, Mexican car in there. South Siders, I would say South Siders, I don't know if it's safe to say South Siders, the blue rags, I would say Mexican Crips just because I respect the South Sides.
Starting point is 01:09:50 You know what I'm saying? But yeah, South Siders, yeah. They wear blue. Yeah, interesting. Blue bandanas. And then you think like the North, Nortanos, North Sondos. More like the Damos.
Starting point is 01:09:59 It's a respect. A little red, little red. A lot of red. Little purple, purple. Purple. Red. No. Where's purple?
Starting point is 01:10:06 All red. All red, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes sense, too. Kind of makes sense to me. You know why? They have their own program. Isn't this funny? Because, and maybe call me crazy, South Side, L.A., South, Southern California, blue for the Dodgers, maybe like red for the 49ers, Northside, North Carolina, North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:10:28 It sounds, it sounds right. Maybe a connection there? I don't know. I don't know. Where did you learn that? I just came up with it, man. I don't know. I just come up with a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Cool how you just did that, though. Hey, this is what I do. That was cool. Yeah, man, maybe you should start doing stand-up, bro. I will. Hook me in with it. I'll do it. I'll go to comedy nights.
Starting point is 01:10:49 You got to work hard, though. I definitely will. Do you feel like you're a hard worker? I'm a nifty worker. Right. You should work smart. Grip smart and work nifty. Because you wanted to get started at noon.
Starting point is 01:11:00 You got here to the studio before I did. You're punctual. Yeah, I'm on John. It comes from, do you think it comes from being locked up? Because you've got to get up early when you're in jail. You got to, I wake up early every morning. You see my videos every fucking morning. I'm working out hard as a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Yeah. Do you think you got that from jail, though, from being inside? I'm waking up early in jail. Yeah, it's constant now. And I just stay on that same program. And I do realize with the day, a lot of times the day has a lot. I got to do it with different stuff. So if I can get a workout in in a day, John, and sometimes if I get it twice, in prison, I was doing a thousand push-ups every morning. Get the fuck out of here
Starting point is 01:11:38 No lie How fast can you do that? It wasn't fast Probably like 30 minutes For a thousand push-ups That's pretty fast No but you keep going You do sets of 50 sets of 50
Starting point is 01:11:48 Just like that That's your water And then we had A tablet You know the phone tablets They have now And I play my music I had some gang banged music in there
Starting point is 01:11:59 Wow I remember I checked out some stuff there And Snoop Dogg had a song It was a Crip song I would work out to that crips. Yeah, yeah. I got to remember what the name movie was. A super crit.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Yeah. Super Crip. That was a super Cri. That's nice. Hell of a record. That's nice. So I would work out a Super Crips record. Who's your favorite?
Starting point is 01:12:21 Crip. Yeah. Who's your favorite Crip? Who's your favorite Crip rapper in that order? Favorite Crip? Got a lot of favorite. I give you five favorite. Yes, please.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Yeah. You say Normandy have BS, King five fingers, baby snaps. Little Crip Mac, little snaps. And we could say the lowdowns and the whack whiz, let's just put them all together. Can we put them together? Sure, absolutely. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Absolutely. Now, uh, my five, yeah. Favorite Crip rappers. Oh, I have a couple more. Okay. Sorry. Uh, I got to say a scrap and Zay cat. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Bet. Oh. And they go all. long with Frank. Okay. Same thing. Just let it go. Shout out.
Starting point is 01:13:07 And now what about Crip Rappers? Crip rappers. Let's say no sense from 40s. We would say Nipsey Hustle. Mm-hmm. Ah. Snoop Dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Dobsy. Yeah. Ice Cube. Ice Cube's not a Crip. Is he a Crip? That is from 111. That's what I've heard from. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Okay. Oh, the Cribs. his age, 111. People were telling him he was Shade dog. That was, but I don't know if it's true. Corrupt? You like corrupt? Oh, yeah, corrupt.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Most definitely corrupt. Dog pound is corrupt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even, like, the East Side is. I like a big trade. Oh, yeah, man, they were nice. Shout off Big Trady from Insane. I like your music.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah, yeah. Oh, good. Yeah, I like music. Cuck, so hard with the gang bang and shit, but his lyrics is just like, just make you want to just hop up start Cripwalk. Are you a good Crip Walker?
Starting point is 01:14:07 I Crippwalk real nifty. Dude, all I wanted to do back in the day growing up was Cripwalk good. That's all I wanted to do. I just fucking do it. It was like, it was like go to the league, playing the NBA, Crip walk. Yeah, I'm going to the league. Do you, do you, is that something that you have to learn or is everybody like,
Starting point is 01:14:27 obviously you're not born learning at a Crip walk, but did you pick it up pretty quick? Crip walk. There's something that Crips do. You know, but yeah, if we was young, I was talking, I was just talking with a baby stretch, normally he had BS. He was about five years old. He's about, he's like a year or two older than me. But he said when he was younger, right, he would, he would Crip Walk.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Yeah. He's about five years old. You know? Wow, getting it on. It's a tradition, man. Yes, it's a Crip tradition. Do Crips absolutely have gone from this, like, street organization to this gang to now this culture? Oh, like me.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I bring it in. Community Revolution and Progress. Right. What do I do? Feed the homeless. That's giving back five the community. Dude. And if you look at out of the... And if you look at how the Crips started, Tucky Williams, they were a community organization. Oh, yeah. He was a big motherfucker that hurt you. But guess what? At the same time, he gave back. And he did. Yeah. Yeah. Crips, yeah. They had something that... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:28 And I think it was just... It helped a lot of people. I think it was just a violent time. And it was also a time where so much money was drug money was on the street that a lot of people just naturally got into it. But I never seen Tuky. They said he was a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, huge. Huge. But, um, but my point is like, the reason that Crips and Bloods and gang banging from L.A.
Starting point is 01:15:54 in general, the reason that it got associated with violence is because those guys got into it, because it was part of the times. You know what I mean? Yeah. We live in much less violent times. We live in fucked up times, but not as violent, and therefore the organizations aren't as violent. Because at its heart, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:16:16 the organization was set up for exactly the reason of what you're doing, giving back and representing the culture and the people and a place. The left way. What is the left way? The right way. My rag hangs on my left. Oh, okay. I represent, I represent this shit.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Right, right. That you fifth. You're cripper. And so it's all coming to full circle. Yes. From the 70s until now, bro. Took you would have liked you, man. I know.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I wish I would have met come. Can I see? A lot of older crips like me when I go by jail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I meet a lot of different older crips. That's older and they tell me. What are older crips? I would love to get an older crip on this show just to hear the stories, man.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Older cribs. What do they go to jail for still? I thought they had all chilled out. I find you an older Crip that we could get on here on this podcast I know some older Crips Can we see the back of your head I love what's 50-fifth
Starting point is 01:17:13 Yeah yeah Brian we're gonna zoom in on this in post Oh Turn around Oh I'm sorry man Look at that Look at that show the camera Oh yeah I like it bro
Starting point is 01:17:27 Did you get that fresh fresh faded in? Oh yes 5 5 I can't keep a cutting And when I'm in jail, you just have a little razor with the thing. Yeah. They cut it. And then I pay them, you know, a lot of people, it's part of life. They're hungry. Would you say, thank you for that.
Starting point is 01:17:46 We're almost, we're going to do some extra time for the Patreon. But, and then we'll let you get out of here because I know you're a busy man. Do you, what's the greatest lesson that you learned while you were out there on the street and then in jail? The greatest lesson in jail? Yeah. Respect. Respect. Respect.
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Starting point is 01:18:49 And after that, we're going to keep it as respect five as we can. Yeah. And that's it. It's respect. Yeah. Don't run. You know, none of that shit, no cister shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:01 No custer cat activity. I bet a few cats. are scared to squabble with you. You're a big boy, man. I'm a big motherfucker. I hit hard. All I need to know is I need some, I got to get my legs stronger
Starting point is 01:19:12 because I was in the car accident. That fuck my legs on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everybody in jail needs to work on their legs, man. Everybody wants to work on their upper body. I was actually on crushes in 2016. Fuck my both my legs out.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Oh, no. How are you doing now? You recover? Oh, yeah. I crippleck like a motherfucker. I'm just strengthening them now. I do squats every day. Squats you would do it.
Starting point is 01:19:33 That shit hurt like a motherfucker. I'm like, I'd rather I just did a hundred push-ups. Yeah. But you know what? It works. And then I do my jumping jacks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I do some nifty jumping jack. Did you ever knock somebody out with one punch in there and a jail fade? Oh, it was about, yeah, but that, he was a smaller man. Right, right. This happens. It has. So he's just laid out cold? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Because I think under the wayside stairs, everybody's around. They can't go no fucking way. So that's what, you're not running me out of stamina and it's scientifically proven. I can take some nifty punches, but I'm going to come with that hard fucking right. And what I tend to do is I put all my weight. I force my whole body into it.
Starting point is 01:20:19 So when I connect, if you don't move, you're going to get knocked all the way to sleep, but I'm going to fall with you because I'm going to put you out. Right. I have a strategy when I fight, and I've learned it through the county jail and taking these 50th Street beatings, these last fucking 10 years.
Starting point is 01:20:34 But, hey, enough DPs. We can't keep taking these, but, you know what? But you know what? But you know what? No, I got about five of them. Five DPs, man. Yeah, I keep count.
Starting point is 01:20:47 But, you know, you learn from your lesson every time. Yeah, it took you five times, but. Yeah, you learn, you learn. So fucking up. And then sometimes, it's like, hey, you know you fucking up. It's like, well, you already know you're going to get your ass, bitch, well, you know, so it's like, you can either make the situation a little better
Starting point is 01:21:04 or you're like, how bad, how bad that the situation is going that you don't like what's going on where you want to continue it because you already know you're going to get your ass beating. You get what I'm saying? How do you make an ass beating less bad? Oh, less? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Like how do you make, you know, say, okay. Shit, you got to go take care of it, man. But you mean you make your peace with God and then just know that you're going to get fucked up or do you try to fight back? I never, no, I love Jesus. I'm a Christian. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Right. When I'm going in these DPs, I just, I'm just going to fight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got to fight.
Starting point is 01:21:41 How did you get out of line? Like, why are you getting packed out by your own? I did. Some crazy shit. Disrespecting? Oh, sometimes.
Starting point is 01:21:52 Or sometimes I might say the wrong shit. Mm. How does that? How do you say? What wrong thing can you say? To your own kind, to your own set, to your own hood?
Starting point is 01:22:02 You can say different shit. to wear different people that we get along with through some other shit and you say something about them and we're close with them and it'll fuck up something and it's just, it's no, how you say,
Starting point is 01:22:16 it's no getting around you. You know, nobody's bigger than the program. You fucked up, you know, all right, you gotta get this house away because at the same time, we fuck with these motherfuckers. These are our homeboys
Starting point is 01:22:27 so he can start a whole fucking war or we're gonna take care of you. That's just how it's gonna go. So you just gotta go and take care of your issue like a man. Right. So most of these DPs... Nobody's bigger than the program.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Right. Were most of these DPs in jail then, it sounds like? I never got D.P. in jail. Okay. So it was on the streets. Always in the 55th Street alley. Ha, ha. Dude, you got to take us to this alley sometime, man. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Get you a friendly fade, huh? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that'd be fun. That'd be good contact. Give me a friendly... Give me a 55th Street DP? You can't get D.P. You ain't from the set, but you could get a 50th Street friendly ass beating.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Oh. That sounds actually... better. A friendly ass beating? I think I could deal with a friendly ass beating. Yeah. Mack, where can they find you? Oh, yeah. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Instagram is 5-5-T-S-T-R-E-E-T-R-E-T-U-School. By the slow, slow, slow, slow, slow, slow, slow, slow motherfuckets on wood. It's at 5-5-T-H-S-T-R-E-E-T-U-T-R-E-T-U-S-T-R-E-T-R-E-T-R-E-T-R-E-S-R-E-E-R-E-S-R-E-R-E-S-R-E-R-E-S-R-I-C-R-M-A-C. Yeah, all over TikTok. I'm on TikTok. TikTok. TikTok.
Starting point is 01:23:48 I'm the real Krip Mac. Okay, cool. The real K-H-E-R-E-A-L-C-R-R-C-R-M-A-C. And then your podcast. Tell us about the YouTube stuff. Oh, the YouTube, MacVentures. And that's part of the No Jumper. No, MacVentures is myself in China, Mac.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Oh, okay. Oh, my YouTube is 55th Street 5. So, it's 5, T-H-S-T-R-E-T-5. Cool. Yeah, go fuck with him, man. And then, you know, you might see him out on tour with me. You never know, doing comedy. Oh, yeah, we should do comedy on tour.
Starting point is 01:24:23 That sounds great. You got the chops, man. can tell. And you're a fuck up. That's what comedians are always fucking up, man. If I was a, if I was a gangbanger, trust me, I'd be getting, I'd be getting D-Ped. That meant something else when I was growing up. But anyways, thank you so much. We're going to switch over, chit-chat a little bit on the Patreon. Thank you so much. We love you. See you next time. Did you know if your windows are bare, indoor temperatures can go up 20 degrees? Turn the temperature down with blinds.com and get up to 50% off custom window treatments like solar roller
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