The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - Sinaloa Cartel Member Exposes Endless Cartel Violence, Mencho's Death, & The New CJNG Boss: PART 2

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

El Diablo is back for Part 2 of this intense interview about cartel violence, the reported death of El Mencho, and the shifting power structure inside CJNG and the Sinaloa cartel. In this episode, El Diablo shares his version of what happened after Mencho was captured, explains why the violence exploded across Mexico, and gives his take on who could take over CJNG next. He also breaks down the ongoing war in Sinaloa, why he believes it won’t end anytime soon, and how cartel alliances are changing behind the scenes. The conversation also goes deep into the business side of trafficking: cocaine routes, marijuana smuggling, cartel logistics, foreign associates, money laundering, crypto, and why synthetic drugs are reshaping the entire underworld. El Diablo reflects on three decades in the game, the costs of that life, and why he believes it’s time to get out. This is Part 2 of one of the wildest cartel interviews on the channel. Join The Patreon For Bonus Content! https://www.patreon.com/theconnectshow 00:00 Aftermath of Mencho's Death 03:39 How Mencho Was Really Killed 06:31 Cartel Violence and Power Struggles 09:40 Succession, Alliances & Ongoing War 13:41 Life as a Drug Trafficker in the US 16:45 From Weed to Cocaine: Shifts in Smuggling 20:49 Drug Logistics: Air, Land & Water Routes 25:00 Family Legacy and Prison Stories 27:34 Retirement Plans and Loyalty in the Game 31:20 Behind the Scenes: Money, Partnerships, and Risks 36:41 Narco Culture, Corridos, and Fame 41:21 Money Laundering and Cryptocurrency in the Cartels 46:34 Changing Drug Trends & Generation Shift 48:03 Dangers, Addictions, and the Modern Cartel World 49:45 Scale of the Cocaine Trade 50:31 Reflections, Retirement, and Final Thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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When they caught Mencho, everybody started wearing buses, houses. They got shootings in Guanajato. They got a shooting in Guadalajara and Baja, in Baja California. But if Mencho's already dead, what is the point of all that violence? Is it just a, is it a message? That's before. Antis de that they killed. Because they say, if I don't show this motherfucker die,

the fucking country is staying in a chaos. How is that war in Sinaloa going to end? Look, Teboye I'll batisinae, so rapidito, I tell you something quickly,

and, without demore, equivocern me. If they don't kill Maito Flacco or kill Ivan, this war don't stop. They're getting worse.

This is part two of a sit-down I did with El Diablo, a drug trafficker who smuggles a metric ton of cocaine into the United States every month for the

Mayo faction of the Sinaloa cartel. We filmed this interview only a few days after drug Lord El Mencho was ambushed and killed by Mexican Special Forces in Halisco, Mexico. Now, El Diablo actually spoke to Meno's nephew the day we did the interview. He put him on the phone with me right next to him so I could hear it,

and he confirmed for us that Mentiono was in fact murdered by the military after he had surrendered, just like we suspected. Diablo also gave me an update on the war in Sinaloa and how Mentiono's death affects the C.J.N.G. alliance with the Chapisa, and how he said, this could present an opportunity for the Mayo faction to once and for all finish the bloody war that has been raging there for almost two years. And finally, he gives us more crazy stories from his three decades in the drug game and pulls back the curtain to reveal the secrets of his transnational cocaine empire. Ladies and gentlemen, it's El Diablo right here on The Connect

with Johnny Mitchell. It's funny that we speak, it's funny that we're doing this now three or four days after Mencho was killed. You told me something that none of the news is reporting on because you know somebody very close to Mencho. I won't say who, but we'll say that it's a familiar. And I know because you put me, you let me listen. He was not shot to death, like everybody's saying. Can you tell us how Mencho really died?

this is what said the people and the people think the people say the people just want something for speculated and make a movie

with something they want views but if you put attention and what I say that's true when they caught Mancho everybody start

wearing buses houses they got shootings in Guanajuanto, they got a shooting in Guadalajara.

They got shootings in in Baja California in every places. What is the purpose of that by the way?

Because they caught it. They want to do the same of the Kuliacanaso. They want to let the

government let it go. But if Mancho's already dead, what is the point of all that

violence? Is it just is it a message? That's before. Antis that they killed them because

him inside the fucking plane. They killed the motherfucker because they say, if I don't show this motherfucker die, the fucking country staying in a chaos. What did the government do? Kill them and show he's dead. You said they didn't, they smashed him in the head. That's the thing they do. They killed them. The government killed them. You know why? Because they don't want his stay alive. he's not dying for shooting. You can see the pictures. He's not dying for shooting,

but his face is a smack. Hmm. Do you think he really got set up by that influencer? Yeah. That chick? I don't think that, but I think

this is one of the problems with the Mexicans. We like pussy. Sure. They happen with Chapo, Cater Castillo. They happen with Mancho. They come with Pablo's Coire.

He's talking with his wife all the time. He won a girl. He get it. They make a fucking, um, what he said? Acordon. Yeah.

They want to stay for 40 days, surrendering because they know they need some medication. They need some. They need to show the face. He, he don't, he don't think, like,

he don't think smart because he needs to keep a bunch of medication. He's sick. Because he has a kidney disease. Yeah. Yeah. And he don't got it. What happened now? They counted because he needed the medication.

He needed everything because they watch it for a long time. Right. They say they watch him for a long time. But when he got in the fucking helicopter, I can't swear the government killed him because they see what happened on all the country. Right. What is the best option to don't return to the streets? Kill them.

Just kill him. But with the woman, you think she really, is he that stupid? Like, he, I mean, he's the biggest boss of the last generation. He's, he's one of the greats in terms of Nauticos, but he could, I don't know, I just don't believe that because it seems like, that's like obvious. Oh, yeah, let's follow one of his women. I don't know. To me, that seems like misinformation. I think they knew where he was the whole time.

And I think our government, the CIA or the DEA, the, the, the, The pressure finally became too much. And Claudia Shainbram, the president said, okay, go get them. That's what I think. I think the same with you. And they killed them. Because they see what the fucking going on. Because this is worse of the Kulia Karnaso.

You see. The two Kulia Kanasos, they do stuff. There's only one people there. But right here, it's a bunch of people die. Like 150, I think. I read something that I don't know if that's true. But they kill Mancho, bro. Because if they return it, they put it in a jail, they make a fuga.

Yeah. Or maybe they get out for the government. Because he got a good equipment. And his people is loyal to him. So there's a couple of people that are being considered to take his place to become the boss. But who really decides that? Like, do you think a guy like Mensho has like a will? Like, when I die, I leave my position, my impuesto de Hefe,

a yogurt or an other way, the double er, or... All jardiner or at 0.3. Right. So how does that play out? How does that happen? Does somebody... I mean, it seems like it's going to get violent. Look, and I think... this, he'd do that. You think the other cartoon members of his circle, they won that position. If he got the power, they fight for the position. They don't give a fuck if he makes you say something, he's dead.

He's dead right now. Got respect for him. I'm sorry, because a lot of people get mad on me, motherfucker, they don't want to stay saying shit, but that's the truth. He says something. He's dead. Next. I think 03 is the one of the position. I think WR or Cardinero can fight for that position. They deserve it too. Do you think his death will change the way that the cartels move?

Do you think the cartels will finally start being more cautious and low-key, seeing as there's so much pressure coming from your government and our government? That way he's a Javier Fuge. He's like... That's a cabron, my respect. That's like the president of El Salvador. Oh, Buckele too. He's like Buckel.

He is like Buckel. He's tough. So do you think that they're going to start falling back and doing less violence, or do you think it's going to actually be the opposite? What do you think? I think this got a lot of violence in a couple of months because the change of the mando.

Mm-hmm. Change of command. And another, on, and other that's what will pass. That's not for sure. That if they don't come to an agreement. Yeah, in agreement.

This is fucked up. The sapo and in Bayarta. Ombro's a caradero that's what are your people saying? Were they pretty surprised when it happened? They don't give a fuck. I depend for another people, you know?

And they, for them, that's good. I think Chapitos people, they need thinking because now that's the person that was I'm helping. Yeah, they were helping

the Chapitos because the Chapisa was losing to the Maiza and then they made that a quarrel last year with the CJNG. Do you think that will stick? You think that will hold?

Yes, there's a minute who has more power yeah. And how is it? How is this? How is this whole thing? How is that war in Sinaloa going to end? You know, I tell you something quickly. And

sin temore equivocarme. Mahito flaco, he don't want to keep in dealing. He wants to fuck up the Chapitos. He want to kill them. You don't want to yell. Wanted dead. When

if they don't kill Mahito Flaco or kill Ivan, These war don't stop. They're getting worse. Because now they don't got chapitos. They're broken. And another thing, look,

when they keep kidnapping Ivan in Guadalajara, the people they kidnap it's a big guy. I don't know who, Hardinero, I don't know, he's 0-3, whatever he say, who do it. You think that when they do it, do you think they want to be partners with somebody kidnapped you?

you don't trust in that if they get you one time I almost kill you you need to be stupid to stay around him yeah yeah it seems like they should partner with the Mayo's

they should partner the CJN should partner with the myos and just get it over with eliminate the chapitos yeah I think is we receive a notice or news they

they're going to or want to get to one of them yeah I have one a question you're the distributor here in the United States. Your loyalty is to the Mayo's.

But just say, say your loyalty was to the Chapisa and you were moving your cocaine through their routes, through Mexico, and say one day, saccao and it all, everything changed to the Mayo's. Would you get a call and say, would they tell you, hey, you owe tax to us now? We own this plaza. That can happen?

Does that happen? Yes, sure. And what is what they want, they want production of money. What is what is what he did

the maito flaco, how debilito to the chaps? They're all the financiers. He started the guys make the money. Sin dinner,

it's a war with you to buy the ballas. So say that in English, they're killing the Maito Flaco. The Mayos

are killing all of the financieros are the guys make the money right what did they do if they don't go money for for sustained the war yeah they start running they start hiding what do they start coming to to usa everybody's all that's left is evan hide and seek he's the only guy left and alfred right and they're living like mencho in the mountains constantly moving right? No, that's almost

always always they're there are going to things and the

family of the people of the man and the people there's

many people there's they're a bunch of families so this war

could go on for years and that families they get strong let me ask you

this Ryan Wedding has heard Ryan Weding that way the Canadian

yeah the Canadianse. Yep. So So I just did a video on him for my channel. He was living, he was a foreigner living in Mexico City. Which cartel was he working with? I see not you could say of him.

No, no, no, but not to put you could say, signate with who hallows? I mean, I didn't, I was, I was in what, you and I was in, in other issue. Okay. Of that, I just, I just I just surprised. I just knew that

I saw that, I've heard of how would a guy like that, what is his function? So he's got all the clients in Canada. So he basically does what you do, but he lives in Mexico

doing it, right? Like he's got the clients and then he works with partners who help him move Coke through semi-trucks across the border of the USA and then through America, into Canada.

Am I about right? Does that, is that really how it works? Yeah. Look, I can say names, but there's a person that's a,

that's in, the Chappos, that are in, in, in, in Sinaloa. There's a fervoan, with,

with the fentanylo, with the pastillas, that way. Mm-hmm. The guy, the damas fuck, they get hired in Mexico,

and he got the connections over here. And he's an American? It's half Mexican, half, um, he's a, he's a Mexican-American because. He's a Mexican-American.

Yeah, I know him. He's a good guy. Wow. He worked with the, with the Chappas, the faction of the Chappas. It's crazy. I tell you, letting know who's the guy,

but that motherfucker. Yeah. You have all these Americans and foreigners fleeing to Mexico and then basically becoming like a associates of the cartels. And they're so valuable. They're the ones that have all the buyers, you know, and the cartels protect them from arrest, at least for a little bit. That's crazy. So tell us about you and the Colombians and your days of smuggling. What year did you

transition fully away from Mota to Kocayina? 2018. 2018? So you were moving weed up until pretty recently, 10 years ago. And what happened? Did your buyers just stop taking it? Is that how you knew the game was up? Then we start with the COVID.

I always sell coke, but not in these amounts. You know, we sell 10, 20 kilos. Right. I started doing a different. And actually, Believe me, I love sell wheat. Yeah. Because I'm maybe I sound stupid, but I think before, I want to be the Philip Morris or the wheat.

You want to be the Philomor's? Because they smuggling with tobacco. Right. That's what I want to do, sell wheat and do it legit and get all the permits. I can. But I want to do it. The wheat is the best thing to sell. They got a lot of money.

Yeah. How much did you make selling weed you think? A lot, bro. Me honest? No, we can, we can say it. I make $150, $200 for a pound. And I got a customer by $2,000, $3,000 at a time. Wow. A lot.

One of your guys from Atlanta or Baltimore, a black guy? Yeah, the Africans. Wow. And this is Mota. Where is it coming from? Sinaloa. Sinaloa. And it was a lot of much.

And how were you, how were they moving it across? They put me in LA, they put me in Arizona. We got our, well, the backpack guys. So they would put it in backpacks. They just marched across the border. And you could get thousands of pounds at a time like that? Yeah, they said 20 mancuernas.

Manquarnas, they say two guys with 30 kilos. A guy, they can send you 10 guys with 30 kilos is when it's 300 kilos. It's 600 pounds. All right. They can send it daily. Wow.

They put a lot of weight. They got an 18-wheeler. I can show you later on. I should give you a, when they call me 3,700 pounds. I can give you the name of the truck driver and everything.

They got a, no, Oh, they picked it up. Yeah. So they would get it across the border. Did you pay for the transport, or did you just buy it once it got to America? They sent it to me. I just need to pay the flete. With the people I work, I just need to pay the driver.

Then make the money, send it back. Got it. Weeds a lot easier than Coke. That's way simpler. And they got it dead. You don't give a fuck. It's not too many times. And you send, you had 18 wheelers sending the weed across the country?

Yeah. I like the 18 wheelers a lot. And you're dealing with the same people who became your team when you started moving Coke? Yeah. And these are like Indian guys, you said. They're bunch of people, bro. Who? And it's a bunch of people.

They got different races. And the friends I know, they're from Africa. The African people, they, they, um, they, um, they got a bunch of Indus, Chinese, a bunch of people out of town to do delivery. That's crazy. It's amazing how many people, just ordinary working people, are willing to risk moving huge amounts of drugs just to make some money. You know what is the word thing? You see people doing it.

We see these motherfuck are dealing with drugs? I see in Mexico Mirroo West, that are pastores that have done that are

like priests I see teachers my messrs and doctors and doctor driving it across yeah and the

kilos in the border 20 kilos 50 kilos in the car they they buy the fucking

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Wow. But you didn't know who it was. Because that was your partner who was arranging all of it. Yeah. That's fucking wild. So you did well with the Mota. Yeah.

Did you consider, what about the Mexicans that I used to buy weed from that would go up to the mountains in Humboldt County and stuff like that? Did you ever get into like the good weed? You did? You got to South North California. Modesto or other places.

Medesino. Mendicino. Mendicino. Yeah. Did you buy from up there? No, I know people. And then those parts, but you never,

you just stuck with the Mexican weed until it stopped selling. Yeah, those 22 pounds bricks, remember? The big bales. Yeah. Crazy. Why did then Mexican, why did, so what happens now?

Do you think that created more violence in Mexico? Because now there's all of this. This whole industry has just collapsed. It's just collapsed. Yeah. The production of marijuana in Mexico, much people had to live in. Senora,

the menia, despotabond. Yeah. Trimming the weed. Kids and everything. Actually, the heroin, the amapola.

Yeah. They take the bulbs out and stuff. Yeah. It's weird because it almost, it was, the whole theory was like, well, if you just make drugs legal, it'll eliminate so much violence in a place like Mexico. But it weirdly has done the opposite. Because now people are forced to, yeah, be into heroin and phantanth, maybe extortion too. Cartels are into more extortion now because they don't have the weed money. That's true.

So then the smuggling of the Coke, I want to hear stories. You talked about being on Cessna airplanes. Did you actually fly that in? Hell yeah. And I make a stupid shit in the planes with my friends. Hold on. Tell us about where you would be flying it in from. I flying to, in that time I flying to Sinaloa.

A rancho that's a name, Los Pinos, Bairawato. And I remember one of my mind is. is that I'm on the plane and here and the other one with more weed in the plane. And I take my pants and put their house in the window. We do stupid shit, you know? Wait, you're flying in cocaine? No, no. We got some money and wheat.

Okay. When I sell wheat, I said, go to the mountains. And so you would pick it up in a plane? Yeah, and then a Cessna. They put a fucking 300, 300 kilos in his plane. And then you fly it up to the border? Yeah, in New Dallas. Holy shit.

Are they still doing, are they still flying up drugs? Maybe not weed, but are there still Pilotas in, in Sinaloa? Yes, sure. Also, that's all that. It's logistics. Right. Air, ground, and the water is logistic. Right.

That's the best, it's the best position in the carchel. The logistics. Yeah. that's what you were saying because you don't have to worry about buying it selling it laundering the money all you're doing is bringing it from point a to point B that's your money I don't you don't give a fucky the coke is not good you need your money you do your yep right I think owning the planes owning the trucks that's owning it is the best it's the transport you know and actually I'm sorry Actually, the drivers, you find the drivers of the pilots, you make money.

Oh, so they pay people just for finding people who want to move. Or for people driving with the stuff or fly with the stuff. Right. You mean you could. He made three or four trips at a week. And you stay in Mexico and he pay you $75 for a piece. you go with 100 kilos, 200 kilos, is $7,500, $50,000.

Went twice a week in Mexico. It's a bunch of money. That's huge money for Mexico. What happened to your family? You know, your whole, this whole Odyssey got started because your family was in it. Your father was, your father's from Sinai, and he goes way back with Mayo.

Yep. the original crew. What happened to them? What happened to your family? They were there, the Vuehuisthan. My abuelos. Dead madrosos,

too. Did they go back? Yes, in Mexico. Did they retire? Yep. Wow. And they never did time? My grandpa,

they covered with 18 tons of wheat. 18 tons? Yeah. Shit. Not too bad. The 74. And he did, he did time in America?

No, in Mexico. Okay. What is doing time in Mexico like? It's hard. You think it's harder there or here? If you don't got money, it's hard. If you got money, you do the time stuff. And the interior of the country, because you stay in the Mexicali and El Nongo does the tough jails right now.

Yeah, people get killed all the time. Yeah, no, El Ngo's fucking one of the words. Actually, Netflix got a, the commentary about that, yeah. Wow. Elongo. Wow. You put me on the phone with, when we were off camera, with some of your guys, these are real movers. And these are in the U.S.

You're getting ready to retire. Is the plan really for all of you guys to retire at the same time? Yeah. Because you got one guy talking about I can move 50. 50 kilos a week. This guy can move 30 kilos a week. I mean, that's, you guys are talking about it like it's nothing. He's nothing. See? That's nothing. Believe me. Damn. That's like a script out of a movie. One more deal, man. We're going to retire in two months. Yeah. Do you have, did you ever have a plan? Did you expect to be free? Or did you expect to, after all this

drug trafficking, did you expect to be in prison? Like, what was your mindset? Man, I want to be free. Of course. Nobody wants to stay in jail. Right. But, I mean, did you have, you know, a lawyer? Did you have a backup plan?

Yeah. If I got to jail, I'd kill myself. I was kidding. Nah. I don't know. Not kind of stupid. I got a, I think I got a good plan. I don't know if that works.

Did you ever move money out of the country? Were we ever ever able to buy property in Mexico or Spain, anything like that? Maybe. I can say yes or no. Maybe I say lies. You know, I say mentiras. Maybe say the truth. Maybe still keeping going.

Let's see. Because much people, your audience, I know they put a bond. some bad comments. I don't want to be like, oh, believe me, I know what I do. I prove you. Because people don't think like that. Because people start thinking they want to stay in this business for all his life. It's not the point.

You need to retire. Right. Put some business. Quit. Right. Quote while you're ahead. Yeah. Hopefully.

My crew is, it's old people. It's not young people. Everybody's in their 40s and 50s. Yes. Because that's what it takes. It takes decades to make the connections to build up the bank roll. Yeah, I just don't see a lot of young kids getting into it.

You know, but somebody will. But the thing is, when you put young people in the business, they start to do stupid shit. They fly cheese. It depends how do you grow the kids. Because right now, I see a bunch of wannabe gangsters stay with a bunch of money, chicken. Yeah. Well, let's go.

Come on. Fucking money. I do it in my past. Man, I don't like to you. But I say, this is what I really want. One time I stayed really, really drunk. Three days with lavender. My fucking nose is like rudo.

red. Yeah, you sniffed, didn't you? Oh, good shit. Fucking pass out. And I started watching so fucking lonely. But a bunch of people, I feel lonely. Say, I spend money and these motherfuckers don't give a fuck about me. They wet my fucking shoulder with fucking saliva.

Oh, I stay with you to the end and this, that. When you need something, the first one run. You don't got friends. You don't got family where you got money. No. And this is what I think. It's better alone. I help a lot of people.

He's fucking malagradezio. How do you say, ungratefuls? Yeah, ungrateful. Ungrateful, motherfucker. A fucking bunch of singers. Corrido singers? See? Really?

Really? Really famous. They show you right now. Who? Do you think a lot of Narcos support Corrido's singers as before they become very successful. Do you think they put money behind them? All the motherfuckers, almost 100%, they, because

the narcos give him money to his fucking career grow up. Right. Then some of those motherfuckers, they're so grateful. They don't remember you, help us. I show you who's the motherfax. I show you the motherfuckers say, oh, I remember when you feed my family, this and that. Now you talk to him.

He's fucking really famous. He's a piece of shit. I don't know if you're talking about peso Pluma. No, no, no, no. But for example, his girlfriend came out with like a statement on Twitter right after Selecaio el Mencho, right? And she goes, if you think Narcos is cool, you need to check yourself. Stop, stop propoting, you know, stop hyping up Narcos. and then somebody else posted a video under that of Pesso Plumo,

her boyfriend, doing a Corrido for Mencho. Or singing a corridor for El Nini. El Nini, yeah, yeah. Rapido, that's can't know nothing about him, but they're so full as shit. I can show you who's the motherfucker and just because I'm not a sneeze because he can tell his name.

He's a pussy-ass motherfucker because I help him. I feed him and he forget it. So I'm grateful. I show you Ryan later on. What's the purpose of Narcos supporting young Corridos singers? Do they want to like launder their money? No, no, no, no. That's what the government think or the people think.

They help you. They help the people to start singing or something. Just because your thing is your friend because he's singing to you or, When you're drunk, he stayed with you, enjoy it. When I ended the day when he got whatever he needs, they run. They don't want to stay. Oh, no, no, no, no.

I don't know. Oh, man, what do you, remember, what you stay with him, pistealing? You know, remember, motherfucker? You stay fucking pass out in my fucking house. Yeah. Snoring at front of a fucking cute.

Because the heat's coming down on them. Like, these guys are getting sanctioned. A lot of their green cars are getting taken because the government can just say, Oh, you're linked to a cartel. You can't come to America anymore. Now, now's what? God's not going to be with you.

A motherfucker. Remember when I sell fucking kilos and you stay with me in? They forget it. They forget it for sure. Yeah, it's a pussy. Yeah, it's a pussy. I show you later. The singers are pussies.

That's why they're singers and not narcos. Because I know a bunch of them is... Chalino was not a pussy. That's a tough, motherfucker. But them to... I used talking in general, but I talk, just about two motherfuckers. But the other, I know fucking

Corridos, music, I got respect for them. They're that my fuckers. They're loyalties. Yeah. Old schools. What are a lot of the narcos? So tell us about your money because you owned

lots of businesses. You had a job. You don't have to tell us what you did for work, but the government, got to prove legal income, you know? Was that the hardest part, washing your money? Was it hard to sleep with millions of dollars in cash lying around? What was your method for cleaning it up, washing that money?

I can tell you on camera, but we got a bunch of money and I don't got nothing. That's the thing. I'm not a, I'm not a flashy guy. See, I'm a normal guy. Yeah. He wears the fucking sheep as clothes. I don't want to show to no one. I don't want to be respectful to their audience.

But I don't want to show them what I can do in the business. Because for some people, if they look you flashy, oh, the motherfucker does the tuffalo, and they don't get a fucking dollar in the pocket. So what happened? So you didn't get away with any of your money? You just spent it all? No, no. I am. Put some business.

I lost a lot of money in the business too. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't lost it. Sometimes one guy brought me, and I lost a lot of money in Mexico. Right here inside with the crew I got, we go all together. And he's our loyalty, motherfuckers. We make a little circle.

We can make something. I trust them more on my family. Wow. Because that sounds like what you guys are going to need to do. If all your guys are going to retire, they got to do something else, you know? So it's like it seems like you guys got to try to do something legit in the business world. Bro, if I tell you one of my friends, got a fucking hotels in his country and everything, he got money. Wow.

He's the richest one. The African guy? Yeah. Can you tell us what country in Africa? Africa. Nigeria, Senegal, one of those. But that guy, maybe he sees these because I promise that I don't say where. They got money.

Yeah. I show you a picture of him and he's, I'm sorry. What about these Chinese money launderers? How close was your relationship with them? No, just business. Did they ever get caught doing anything? Them? Yeah.

I don't know. But when they send somebody, everyone lose the same. I'm sorry, but I'll be honest to you. And how do they make the, how did you make those connections? Because I know people in Mexico,

they got the plug. This is not only me. It's a circle. It seems like these connections are passed down through the generations, right? Like, it's not like you go say, oh, I need a money launderer.

It's not like, it's not really how it works. It's... Only in the movie. He's the son in the movies. You get to know, you know, enough people for long enough, and that draws you into all of these people who help you. Is that right? Yeah.

Yeah. I'm down with them, you know, a bunch of the people that is not right in the business. The ones in my team, that's the solid guys. Yeah. And I know of Tito WP, he sell Coke. and his father sell coke. He's a corrido singer? Yeah.

He sells shit. He's pretty more than Pesso Pluma. And I got a friend. He's in jail. He's a musician. He gets out. And they ask him for Pesopuma.

Detritant in a case. That's what I don't want to say to my shit I can prove. Is there, because remember when Pesopuma tried to play in Tijuana? Yes. And he got a threatening message.

from, I think it was Cartel, Halisco, Nueva, Han, that's gonna'Ano? Yeah, they don't want it. Why not? What problem do they have with him? Because they, they, they,

his career started with Nini, you know, we start singing the Rapido, he do the, he's gonna have a not sure, they start singing. He got a lot of problems for that because he's close to them. And,

also the group arraigado, when Panthers stay in Arrisgado, panter bellico, they say, they, they, they sing. and they killed him, and he's when he broke up with the group. Ardisgal, you don't hear that?

No. I mean, it's so crazy that's so much drama in Mexico and politics and bullshit, you know? And everything. Everybody's just gotten away from the drug trafficking. You know what I mean? Like, at the end of the day, I can't believe these organizations don't, like, take a breath and say, hey, we're here for the money. Like, let the past be the past.

you know. What's the people do? They love money. Everybody get money. When the problem is coming, everybody run. The singers, a lot of singers, especially the one I told you, I can say his fucking name, but they like it, give us some money. You put their fucking career on the top.

That's it. And people say, you invest money and them and laundry the money is not that way. They make millions yet, but they can help you later. You want to move something. hey, can you make me a favor? I got like a half a million over there, buy a car, and you give me the money in Mexico. Sometimes they can do that.

But they're there because I'm a lawyer if I say they make a money and or something. That's, that's. They just want maybe a favor down the line. Yeah. That makes sense. Try to make them back the favor they do it for, put you in the career in the top.

Do you think cryptocurrency actually purchasing drugs wholesale with crypto? Yes. Is that a thing or will that become a thing? They, they don't, I think they do the, it's not buying the drugs. They send the crypto to the people invest in land and properties. And that people, it's like like the way you got $400,000. You want to buy a house. And I know you and I say, hey, Johnny, I got some money, it's dirty money.

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then, look, if I, what was your monthly re-up? How much were you giving the Colombians every month? A million? Yeah, put them for a million. So imagine you were just using Bitcoin and you never even had to use cash and you just bought it with Bitcoin, you sent it.

Actually, you're dealing with a ghost money because sometimes they don't see the money. Exactly. It's a ghost money. No, nobody wants... Everybody's scared about the transdust transaction, they don't want to use the names. Like me, I got my business.

I don't make a wire transfer to nobody. Either way, use my kid or is my daughter or something. I don't use it. Did the money ever get fucked up? Did the Chinese, the money launderers ever fuck the money up? Yes. Really? Yes, sometimes, a lot.

I got a question. You've been ripped off for drugs. You've been ripped off for money. if you're part of, if you're loyal to the Mayos, La Maisa, can you call up a hitman? Are Americans or Traficantes with you here in the United States that are making all this money for the cartels?

Are you able to call in a favor? If you wanted to, in theory, of course. Call in a favor? Like, send somebody to take care of somebody. Oh, no, me? No, I don't have to. But could you? I can do it.

If I want to do, if I got an enemy, I can do. But I don't need it because the crew, what I got is different of the one. That's what I got too many years in the business. Right. Because we work is family. Yeah. He's not like ghetto people. Yeah.

You know? They dealing with my guy, he got his customer for almost 20 years. The same customer. Crazy. Because they low key. Yeah. But if I need some, they got people. people. They got people.

Yeah. They can, they can ask him his people they sell it. Hey, I got a problem with this guy. You can take care. They can take care. Yeah. I don't, I don't need to do it. But why? Because I got the good people. We just stay with sitting with good people. You don't need to do that. Wow. You don't need to wash your bag. Somebody to stab you. Yeah.

I got a good, good team. That's crazy. I'm fascinated how Yeah, I'm fascinated by what's going to happen How it's all going to evolve, you know It doesn't seem like it can keep This like, I don't know, maybe you can't Maybe you can go on forever

But this whole war on drugs It's crazy It's like insanity, you know? It's insanity. The same thing that happens over and over. If you see now And the world of the drugs is changing a lot. They start giving permit for the weed is legal now.

Yeah. You know, they only dangerous drugs, fentanyl, meth, the fucking ketamine, all the kinds of drugs. They start a new era when a new drug does what I want to quit. My team say the same shit because we sell some Coke, but people that only the old people is that one use crack. Right. Now it's start with the fucking, you go to go to Chicago, you look fucking walking dead people.

Right. And the alleys, a bunch of people stayed in drugs really bad. That's what the people start. The Coke is the queen of the drugs. Yeah. The Coke will always be there. Yes. But now, in this new era,

everybody's scared for the fentanyl. the catamine for the mat. And that's what everybody want to get. That's it. Right. There's too many shit in the streets. They rape the kids. They raping one motherfucker they see in the news.

They rape a fucking dead deer. A deer? A deer. And he fucking fuck him up. Is that even illegal to rape a dead deer? I don't know, but it is not legal. It's insanity. It's immorals.

Yes. But that's what happened with drugs. It's illegal before God, for sure. Yeah. That's something weird. Right. And that happens for that kind of drugs. It's only chemicals.

Yeah. Yeah, the synthetics. Really synthetics. Co-co gas, a lot of chemicals, too. But not nylon. That one is only powder. What about ketamine? Where does that come from?

They use it for the horses. Right. But that's not a drug that's mass produced in Mexico or South America. That one coming for Germany. Byyer, do it. Bikers? By year. The B-A-Y-E-R.

Bayer? Bayer, they made it. Oh, shit. They sell for kilos. They use it for the horses. Right, right, right. Damn. That's what I say.

They start doing really weird drugs. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just wonder, are there going to be any, like, young guys like you? Because they're all, Coke's moving, dude. Will there ever be any young guys like you? You're, you know, 20 years ago, 25 years ago, coming up in the cartel, I don't know.

That's what happened with Nini. He's really young when he comes to the cartel where he started like a hitman. These lot of young people in the cartels right now. Yeah. You can see a lot of young people. Yeah. And they use it because they got in his mind, oh, I mean, I got famous. I got yours.

and go kill people for free, just for trying to show off to the kimpings. They do stupid things. That's what my crew and I, I say, I think it's time to. You want to keep in going with the guys, do it by yourself, but you're not thinking they drag you to yell.

I don't want that. Yeah. Yeah. They can put me in jail. You can wait seven, 10, 10 years, and they got something. They put me in fucking jail. And you know that.

Yeah. Shit, dude. People don't care about nothing, only about the money. Cartels don't trust and no cartels. No. No. Yeah, it's fucking, it's pretty insane to think. And that's probably why you see a lot of foreigners moving to Mexico and getting in the game.

Because so many people are dying, it's so, cartel members are on drugs. Most kingpins are also addicts themselves. You know, you were, you had a pretty decent Coke habit. So I think that's the reason a guy like Ryan Wedding can be like, I can traffic drugs better than Mexicans. Let me become part of this thing. Yeah. In Europe, in Europe, it's a bunch of drugs.

How many customers do you think your Colombian plugs had? How many people did they distribute to? I know for sure. He got like three or four. Guys, just like you. No, no, no. me, I'm a piece of shed with that people.

She's like. Yes. Because I got the plugin global but we got half a ton me and my partners. Right. But that guy's by two, three, three tons of Coke. A month.

Yeah. Wow. They're different. They big. You know? Yeah. You get enrolled. It's a bunch of stuff

where I get. And that level of the people, I'm nothing. I'm good, I'm good, you know. He's 600 kilos, bro. Yeah, you didn't want the, you didn't want the 2,000 bricks. It's a bunch. It's a fucking world or dope.

That's so much Coke. It's a lot. I give you a video you can post it in this interview you want to show them. I don't like to them. He's not not faking it. And they can see what they cook in it. The video I send it to Tommy. with his name.

And I try to do something one with the connect. Yeah, I want to go talk to these Colombians. Yeah. I want to go see. I might be trying to get out of this podcast game, dude. Nah. This is good. This is one of the best podcasts I see.

You're talking with the real, real people. Mostly. I tried to. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Diablo, man. Oh, that was an odyssey. Thank you so much for coming in, bro.

Thank you. I wish you had social media, but we know we can't do that. Not yet. Look out for the movie. All right, you guys. We'll see you later. Peace. Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile.

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