The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - Texas Gang Member On Running Multi-Million Dollar Meth Ring, Working With Zeta Cartel, Finding God

Episode Date: March 29, 2026

From the inside of Texas maximum-security prisons to the heights of a multi-million dollar drug empire, this is the story of Tim Griesheimer — a man who lived both sides of chaos and control. After serving time as a gang member, Tim walked out of prison with a plan… but not the one most would expect. Within months, he was deeply embedded in the underground drug economy, moving massive quantities of meth and marijuana, working alongside cartel-connected suppliers, and generating hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time. The operation was fast, calculated, and dangerously efficient. But with that level of success came constant paranoia, betrayal, and the ever-present threat of law enforcement. Raids, arrests, and close calls became part of everyday life. As the walls began closing in, Tim went on the run — continuing to operate across state lines while carrying the weight of a system determined to catch up with him. Eventually, it did. What followed wasn’t just another prison sentence — it was a turning point. Behind bars, stripped of everything, Tim found discipline, faith, and a new identity. Converting to Islam, dedicating himself to self-improvement, and learning the art of tattooing, he began rebuilding from the inside out. This episode explores the rise, fall, and transformation of a man who lived at the extreme edges of risk and survival — and ultimately chose a different path. A story about power, consequences, and redemption. Go Support Tim! IG: https://www.instagram.com/tattoos_bykriminalkustoms/ This Episode Is #Sponsored By The Following: Venice AI! Go to https://venice.ai/theconnect and use code theconnect for 20% off a Pro plan. Use AI. Just don’t surrender your privacy to use it. Hims! To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://hims.com/CONNECT Featured products include compounded drug products, which the FDA does not approve or verify for safety, effectiveness, or quality. Prescription required. See website for details, restrictions, and important safety information. Actual price will depend on product and subscription plan. Superpower! Head to https://superpower.com and use code CONNECT at checkout for $20 off your membership. Unlock your new health intelligence. 100+ biomarkers. Every year. Detect early signs of 1,000+ conditions. #superpowerpod Join The Patreon For Bonus Content! https://www.patreon.com/theconnectshow 00:00 Intro & Tim's Background 01:40 Getting Out of Prison & Making Contacts 04:05 First Days Home: Adjusting & Old Friends 06:41 Jumping Into the Drug Game 09:46 Early Hustles: Meth & Pills 12:38 Climbing the Ranks, Bigger Moves 15:44 Landing a Major Plug 20:42 Protect Your Privacy Against AI With Venice AI 22:02 Dealing with Paranoia & Moving Weight 25:32 Expanding Business & Facing Threats 31:12 Life in the Fast Lane: Money & Clubs 40:41 Networking in Strip Clubs & Money Stacking 45:02 New Plugs & Stash Spots 48:08 Get Simple Online Access To Affordable Care For ED At Hims 49:23 Surviving Competition & Paranoia 01:00:00 Busting Down the Numbers: Profits & Hustle 1:03:05 Detect early signs of 1,000+ conditions With Superpower 01:04:13 Going On The Run: Ohio Weed Pipeline 01:17:28 Law Enforcement Pressure & Homeland Security 01:30:00 Arrest & Jailhouse Savvy 01:40:41 Legal Nightmares & Second Prison Stint 01:56:48 Reflections, Identity & Prison Politics 02:10:10 Life Lessons, Parole & Turning it Around 02:20:00 Converting to Islam: Brotherhood & Change 02:30:00 Prison Race Lines, Finding Identity 02:37:00 Building Respect & Bridging Divides 02:44:00 Release, Parole, and New Beginnings 02:46:00 Tattooing, Redemption & Advice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Deepop where taste recognizes taste. So you're moving 12? 12 bricks a week, sometimes 15. Kilos, yeah, like clockwork. He gave you a key of meth? Of meth? Yeah, of clear, yeah. And he's like, just take 12 of them. And he's like, can you move bud?

He's like, man, I'll get it to you 250 a brick. I used to keep 40 Gs on me at all time, 10 racks in each pocket. That dude was making $10,000 for me a day. If I get caught with this, I'm done. It's a rap. This is Tim Greisheimer, the white blood gang member who survived seven brutal years in Texas maximum security prison. But his journey didn't end there, not even close.

Immediately upon his release, he fell in with members of the Gulf Cartel, and almost overnight, Tim became a multi-million dollar crystal meth dealer. He was also trafficking thousands of pounds of weed from the West Coast to his native Ohio, where he went on the run for years before finally being arrested again.

He ended up doing another Texas prison bid where, get this, he converted to Islam, turned his life around, and today is a thriving tattoo artist. If you're in Texas and you want to get a tattoo, make sure to DM him on Instagram. Link will be in the description. One of the most interesting criminal odysses I've heard in a long time, it's part two of Tim Greisheimer right here on The Connect with Johnny Mitchell.

What's up, everybody? Before we get going, as usual, if you haven't subscribed to the channel yet, please do me a favor and smash that subscribe button and click the alert bell. It helps us out so much. All right, you asked for him. You loved him. one of the all-time great guests on The Connect. It's part two with Texas, Tim.

Enjoy. And if you give a dirty UA, is that, is that it? It depends on no. See, Texas is actually light on that shit, bro. That's one of the reasons why I stayed here and I didn't leave. Because I have, like, family and friends in other states, but I was investigating parole in other states and, like, if you get, like, a dirty UA, they'll put you back in prison.

Right. But here they won't do that. They're not allowed to do it anymore. They can make you go do a program, but you got to, like, Or you might go to jail. Yeah, you might go to jail. In Oregon, they're not going to send you back to prison, but you might go, like, do a month in the county or something like that. But not behind, like, weed, you got to piss hot.

That's the only drug that I fuck with is bud. Right. And, you know, I don't fuck with hard drugs. I mean, I've done ecstasy before I tried Coke, like, a couple of times. Like, a little key bump when I was drunk, but like anything else on that, I've never, I don't. Drugs and that's never been my kick, dog. I like to be sober. I like to know what's going on.

Like, I don't even drink, like, you know, I don't do shit. Like, when I get off parole, I will smoke again. I don't know if it's going to make me paranoid or whatever, because they say if you don't smoke for a long time. But I at least want to smoke one more time before I die just because. So you weren't, so you were smoking in the pen? Yeah, but not all the time, bro, because if you get popped, you know, it's, you know, an automatic set off.

You go to closed custody. So I would smoke, but not a lot. When I went back to second time, I didn't smoke. I didn't smoke at all. Yeah. So you got home, you were, how old when you came home the first time? I was almost 24. Okay, but you're still young, but you've lived through some grown man trauma.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had to go to the halfway house. So, like, I had no, like, my uncle stayed here, but, like, I didn't fuck with him. None of them wrote me. My mom wasn't in the state anymore. And my uncle, you know, not the shit on him because he's cool as fuck. He doesn't stay here. I think he stays in, like, Minneapolis or some shit.

Oh. He was a drunk, you know what I'm saying? So I had to go to a halfway house when I came home. I had to do three months there. But about like the grown man shit, what's crazy is like when I was in prison, all my workout buddies were way bigger than me. But you fail to realize when you're in jail, you get, well, they feed you three times a day.

But I didn't even go to shower because I had so much commissary. I just spread all day long with my homeboys. I'm like, who's cooking, who's cooking? and then I'm working out. I'm small in prison, but when I come home, I'm bigger than all these motherfuckers. So I remember my ex-girlfriend,

I came home, I called my mom, and then she gave, she's like, hey, her name, she's like, her name was Bobby. So she was like, Bobby wants you to call her.

And I'm like, you still talk to her? She's like, yeah. So I called her, and they gave me like a four-hour pass from the halfway house to go, like, buy some clothes or whatever,

hygiene and shit. And, uh, we went to the mall. I remember we were walking and she was like looking at me. And I'm in a fucking white tea and like some dickies because that's how I used to dress and shit, right? So I'm in some white tea and some dickies. And she's like looking at me. And I looked at her.

She keeps looking at me. And I was like, what's up? And she's all like, she touches my chest. I was like, what you doing? She's like, man, you're a fucking man. And I was like, what? And she's like, man, I remember you were a fucking scrawny kid. She's like, you're a fucking man.

Right. And I was, so when we were walking, I'm like, why does everybody keep looking at me? Because I'm smiling. I'm happy. I'm glad I'm home. And she's like, because you look like a fucking wolf. Right. She's like, your eyes are different to him.

She's like, your eyes are different. She's like, I don't even want to know what you, I don't want to hear no stories. I don't even know nothing about you type shit. So you really, you jumped into the game. You jumped into the dope game. Quick. That was my whole plan. Okay.

Yeah, that was the whole plan. Were you making contacts behind the wall? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a motherfucker. Like a motherfucker. I'm making contacts. But, like, when I come home, all that switched up. So, like, a chick I had knew I grew up with her. She was a stripper.

She had came to see me in prison a couple times with my mom. My mom had contacted her and told her I was in the halfway house. So she came to see me at the halfway house. And we were talking. And then her cousin, me and him were like best friends coming up. So I was all like, I was like, where's Jeremy at? and she's like oh he's this and that she's like man he's bad and i'm like what do you mean she's like oh he's on that that ice and i'm like the fuck is ice and she's like meth so i'm like for real

so like a light bulb kicks off and she's like everybody out here's on this shit and i was like ain't that like some biker shit or some shit and she's all like she's like nah she's like man everybody's on it da da da and she's like you remember a friend of ours i ain't gonna say his name because uh he's home now he got out he got out the feds uh but he was my first plug And she's like, you remember such, such? I'm like, yeah, she's like, man, he's the guy. And I was like, for real? She's like, yeah.

So I was like, tell him I'm home. I want to talk to him. And so, she calls her cousin. Her cousin comes and sees me. I've never seen a person on meth before. This fool pulls up in a fucking white Dodge Ram, 3,500 diesel jumps out, hairs all crazy, scraggly beer, fucking

tweet gigging. I'm in the halfway house. I'm like, the fuck. I'm like, bro, you can't be pulling up here like this? And he's like, what's up? And I'm like, I'm like, dog. And I'm like, say, I'm like, hey, when I get out of here, like, I want, I want you to help me pump some shit and make some moves happen. He's like, just fly straight, bro.

Like, do the right thing. Like, just fly straight. Like, that was like the crazy thing. Like, so many people fuck with me so tough that when I came home from the pen, everybody who was like breaking the law, they didn't want me to break the law. They were like, bro, just stay home. Like, what are you doing? Like, you're tripping, bro. You just came home, like, and I was like, I don't, I was, because I was still institutionalized.

I didn't give a fuck about going back to jail. Right. Because I knew I could make it. Like, I was just like, man, I don't give a fuck. Like, I don't care about jail. Fuck these fools. Like, that's just where my mind was. So I did 90 days and a halfway house because they made you.

And then you have to give them your whole paycheck. Dude, so I made, I was working construction, dude. I was getting paid like $9.50 an hour. Some pussy-ass shit. man, I think I was making like 400 a week or some shit after taxes. And they took all of it besides $25. So I got paid every Friday or something. I might have been making $5.50 a week.

I don't remember what. How are they able to take it? Like restitution? No. So when you go to the halfway house, the rule of the halfway house is they take your check. So they put it in a savings for you. Oh, I see. So when you get out, like some people don't have nowhere to go.

So if you got all this money saved up, then you can fucking get an apartment or some shit. So I stacked up in like three months. I think it was like $3,300, $3,500, some bullshit. And as soon as I got out, that chick I was talking about that dancer, we went shopping and then we came back and then Jeremy went to go see the plug because the plug didn't want to deal with me at first because when I was younger, I was always jacking. So that's what they knew me for as Jackboy.

So he's like, I don't want to meet him Because they was afraid I want to be on the same shit Fool just came home from prison You know the stigma, you come home from prison crazy motherfucker Damn, he was banging down there with blacks That fool's definitely crazy So, uh, man a fool brings over a ball So I'm like, I'm like, all right, how are we gonna sell it?

So he's like, I'm gonna take you to this trailer park And we'll pump out the trailer park And I'm like, I, I had never, But like before then I had only dealt like Bud Like I told you, like the blue lunts and shit like that. So we go to the trailer park and there's all these meth addicts in and out of this house. They're playing this dice game called 10,000. I think it's called like Farkel too. Like you have like five or six dice and you try to roll like doubles and triples. They're sitting

around. They're passing the bolo around like the glass pipe and shit smoking it. So I'm looking at these motherfuckers and I'm like and everybody you always said this about me like man, you always on some mob shit. So I'm thinking in my head like, man, I'm going to go to jail quick doing this. So with ice, like with meth, you can sell it $10 a point. So you can sell it a hundred a gram. So my homeboy, he's telling me, he's like, look, there's two ways you can sell this shit.

You can either go point for point with this shit. He goes, which, you're going to get the most money. Even though he was a dope fiend, he was smart. So he was like, you're going to get the most money this way. He goes, but just think. He goes, you got a ball. You got three and a half grams. he's like say you sell it point for point you can make 350 off of it he goes but say it takes you a week to make that 350 you didn't make shit you dry risk going to prison he's like or you can dump this motherfucker off right now for 150 bucks and then hurry up and go re-up and he's like you got it for a hundred bucks so you make a quick 50 he's like and if it starts catching then your your your product is moving so i was like well let's do it the first way first so i'm trying to do the whole point for point shit motherfuckers like you know like the meth game it's a

real paranoid game, right? Like, it might be different now, but back then, like, you remember I told you about, like, the Snowden shit? Like, these motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, these motherfuckers are super paranoid. Like, you know, they don't want, when smartphones came out, they didn't want nobody bring everybody I dealt with.

They didn't want no smartphones around them. They didn't want even, like, DVD players. They're like, they're watching us. It's got a camera on it. Cover up the camera. Like, they were spooked about shit like that. So, like, it turns out they were right. They were fucking right, dog, right?

The first thing went through my head when I heard about Snowden, I was like, what the fuck? These fools were on to something. So, I mean, it took me, I don't know, it took me probably like three or four days to move that ball. And I was like, all right, fuck it, let's do it your way. So then we start getting a little action,

flipping a little bit. I'm selling some powder. My homie gets out the joint. We go to Houston. We pick up from another homie in the joint. We go to Acres homes and we get like some X-pills. This is when X-pills were good. Like, you would roll.

for like eight, eight hours. And you could sell them for like 25 a pill back then and like the 06 era and shit. So we are going to fucking Houston and getting pills and coming back. So I'm moving a little pills just like petty shit. And so I'm like basically a one-stop shop. But the Coke don't click.

The X pills, when I go to the strip club to hang out with the chick who why not becoming my girlfriend for a little while, I'm basically kind of giving them away, like trying to be cool, like get in with these dancers. I know they can plug me in with people. And then I'm slowly moving up. now I'm getting a quarter, now I'm getting a half a zip, and I'm not getting nothing fronted to me.

And then finally, I purchased my first zone. So, like, back then, like, zips were going for, like, a thousand. You know, you could let him go for like 1,500, 1, 1, 2,000, 9 was like a deal. Like, you were getting them for 9, just buying 1, you were getting a deal. But my plug was the guy, but I really don't know how good he's got it because he won't fuck with me. He's middlemanning me through my homeboy, but he knows me because we went to school together. So then finally he pulls up and my homeboy goes out there and chops it up with him. He's like, bro, why don't you just deal with Tim? Like he's the one doing it. He's not on that

shit no more. Dude's trying to make some paper. So he's like, all right, give me his number. So I had been home. I'd been out on the streets for like almost what, two months, something like that is getting close to Thanksgiving. So I'm moving, I'm moving a couple zips a week, nothing real serious. So this fool texts me. He's like, hey, bro, it's such, such. And I'm like, hey, what's the deal? He's like, I'm about to pull up, come outside.

So I'm like, all right. So I go and I jump outside with him. He's like, hey, I'm going to take you with me. Don't tell nobody what you see. So I'm like, all right, bet. So we go to one of his spots. He had multiple houses set up across town. This is a white guy?

No, he's a essay. All right. Yeah, he's a Mexican. You know, you want the real plug. It's got to be brown dog. You know what I'm saying? So we go to the apartment. He's like, don't ever tell nobody you came here.

Don't ever tell nobody nothing. And I'm like, alright. So he goes back and he's got this big ass safe. He's a short motherfucker, probably like five or something like that. It's got a little keypad. He spins a deal, unlocks it. I've never seen, like I've seen a pound of weed before, but I ain't ever seen no weight. And this motherfucker got, I don't know,

I guess to make probably like eight, nine keys, a coconut's, motherfucker. So he brings out five keys, leaves the safe open, and I see like these, like, Tupperware bowls. This was the first and last time I had ever seen it like this in real life. So he's got these Tupperware bowls like this big, but they're wrapped up. And that's what the clear was in, the ice. Shards.

Yeah. Just big ass shards. That's pure. Yeah. So he brings it in a, so he brings out the Coke, sets it on the counter, gets a fucking trash bag, cuts it open, and throws it over this, like, circular tape. So he fucking comes out with the triple beam. He puts them each on the triple beam. He's not telling me what he's doing. So then he gets a knife and he cuts open around the top of the key. And, you know, motherfuckers don't know, like, that shit's wrapped a lot, bro. Like, it ain't, you know, it's not easy to cut through. It's not easy to peel back. So he's like, I'll just want to peel, peel it back without at breaking. As he pops it back. And then he shows me the stamp on it. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, fuck is that. It's a scorpion. So he's like, like, like, I just want you to know where I'm, I was like, I don't know.

Honestly, like, I didn't want to know too much anyways. Like, because I don't want you thinking I'm telling on you. Because, you know, when somebody gets in trouble, the first thing, everybody says, they're telling it. They're telling it. So I don't, I'm the type of person. I don't want to know too much. But I'm a loyalist. Like, I told you, I'm about that tribe shit.

So to me, like, I look at my plug, like, he's feeding me. So I'm going to ride for him. Like, he's putting food on my table. So he gives me some gloves. He's like, you're still on paper? And I'm like, yeah. And he gives me a face mask. It's like, put that on.

So we start breaking down the powder. This is my first time ever seeing, like, powder like this. And we break down all those keys. And then I ride around with them, and he drops all that shit off, right? Running in, dropping shit off, coming back, whatever. And didn't collect any money. He just dropped all the shit off. So when we go back to the apartment, he goes into that safe, which he left open.

And he brought out one of those keys. And he hands it to me. And I'm like, what is this? and he's like, it's a key. And I'm like, how much is in here? And he's like 36 zips. I'm moving a couple zips a week, dog. Like, I'm like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this?

He's like, he's like, I'm going to give you two weeks to get rid of it. I said, bro, I don't know people that buy shit like this, dog. I'm moving grams and tinaers and balls and shit. He gave you a key of meth? Yeah, of clear, yeah. So he's like, he's like, look, he's like, do you know how much a brick goes for? And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, like a half a key.

and I'm like, no. He's all like, a half a brick goes. He's like from a good plug, 9,000, 10,000. You can let him go 12, 13. He's like, so the key is 20, 22, 23. He's like, I'm going to give this to you for 11,000. Wow. And I'm like, he's like, do you understand what I'm telling you?

You can control the street value now. He's like, all those people that you're selling balls to for this, for that. He said, tell them you got them for this number. He goes, watch what I tell you. They're going to come and you're going to start. He's like, he's like, bro, this shit's going to be gone in less than a week. He goes, this is fire, bro. Ain't nobody got this around here.

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Wow. So we go back, we go back to the house, and I remember I'm ryeing with this fool. And this fool, he's going to Houston, getting jewelry. he's fools dapper and a motherfucker diamond necklaces and we're riding i don't know if you ever heard that bumby song when bumby dropped that uh trill album when uh when pimpsey got locked up we're

running that good weed good drank big money man and this fool sipping serve and shit ride he got the motherfucking so like uh when people would sell serve like if you don't buy the whole pint they'll have it in a baby bottle so they can measure you know the ounces and shit so he got some baby bottle right there we're riding he didn't smoke weed or nothing. I did no drugs. So I'm like, I'm getting kind of intoxicated. I'm like, all right, this fool's, this is the guy right here. I'm with the right click. So boom, I go in the house. I call my homeboy and my other homeboy to the back room. They're both smokers, though. So we fucking get a knife. We cut all the wrapping and shit off the motherfucker and we pop open the bowl.

And it's these motherfucking long ass shards. Like, they're like yellow clear. You could shake it. if you put it in a bag and go like, it kind of sounds like change. Wow. Like that. And they're like, what the fuck? He's like, I told you. He's all super crunk because that dude, my homeboy,

he's the one that blew that cat up. Like that cat was like a low level dealer, but because of him, he blew him up. So he always has a soft spot for him. That's why he could put that word in for me to get in good with him. So like once a year, they do a sweep.

I don't know if they do it anymore. more, but they used to do a sweep in central Texas. So I moved that bird, and then he gives me one more, and that's right around Thanksgiving time. Next to you know, I'm getting a phone call the next morning. A fool, such that's been busted, they hit all the spots. Like, so what he would do is, remember I told you about the apartment with the

safe? So say he knew you, and he, because he would fuck with squares. He actually put me on to doing this, because he had told me, he said, bro, don't fuck with other dealers. Don't hang out with thugs, hang out with people who got jobs and shit. because he even had a job, even moving all that dope, he had a job. Like, he did construction. Wow. Like, because he was like, this is what you do.

He's like, don't drive, fly cars, just like hang out with people. He's like, because then if you hang out with people who don't do bad shit, you can fly out of the radar for a long time. So I'm like, I'm like, all right, bro. So I just kind of was blowing him off. But once he got popped, I took his shit into consideration. So what do he would do? Like, say he knew you.

And he'd be like, hey, bro, let me put you. You say you had an extra room in your house. He'd be like, you use that bedroom back there, that other room? You'd be like, nah. He'd be like, bro, let me put a safe in there and a lock on the door. I'm the only one that's going to have a key. And he's like, and I'll pay you like $10,000 a month. Who's going to say no to that?

Of course. But all those people that when they raided their houses and they had to bust in that door to get all of them turned on them. They knew there was working there. They didn't know how much. But, you know, they all told on him. But he actually wound up getting out on that first step action. Let's talk about AI, you guys.

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It's everybody's talking about. The streets are talking about. They came in and did this suite. So he's like, look, you're the only one that's got this shit, bro. And people are blowing us up. So now the people that we're getting, now they want more. Because the streets is dried up. So for like a couple of days, I'm spooked.

Like, I'm scared. I don't want to make no moves. And he's like, bro, you got to fade the storm. He's like, you say you want to eat. You say you want to make this money. this is how we're going to make the money. And I remember that day when he was talking to me, it was Thanksgiving Day.

And bro, I was like, fuck it, start answering the phone. Because everybody would call him. Nobody would call me because I wanted to insulate myself so nobody could talk to me. So everybody started calling him. Man, we got rid of that bird dog. Man, I don't even think it took 24 hours. That bitch was gone.

And I had all this bread. So I'm hearing that his people- You're selling it announces? Yeah. Yeah, straight. Dude is gone, dog. And I'm letting, and because there's none there, I'm letting them go for fucking 15.

Yeah. I'm like, now, if it's 15 across the board, I don't get a fuck how many you buy. Like, you got to give it to me. So now I got all this money, but I got no plug. So now I'm like waiting on a call because I know somebody's going to call me

for this bread, but I don't know what to do. So I'm driving down to this boulevard and simple, and I see my homeboy that I was in prison with, a Mexican cat. I see him. He's fucking got an SUV, and I'm like, what the fuck? So I bust a bitch, pull up in the gas station. I jump out.

I'm like, what's up, fool? This fool's actually like a fucking hardcore drug addict now, right? It's a fucking shame. He's got a mouth full of top and bottom gold. This is when, like, the grills were popping and shit. He's like, what's up? He's out talking, showing his grill and shit. I'm like, what you got going on, fool?

And he just fucking reaches in the center console of the SUV and pulls out a big ass pound fucking zip lock baggie full of fucking shards. he's like, this is what it is. And I'm like, so I tell him, I'm like, bro, I'm like, what's up? I got some paper. I was like, I'm trying, I need a plug. And he's like, oh, you fuck around? I'm like, yeah, I was like, my plug just got popped. Well, they know my plug. So he's like, who is it? And I was like, I don't want to say no names. Like, I don't want to, you know, say nothing, but he just got popped. I need, I, and he's like, well, what are you trying to get? I was like, bro, I'm trying to get a, a brick, have a brick, but like,

that's what I need. Like, what's up? He's like, all right, so we exchange numbers. He's like, I'm going to call you tomorrow. So I forgot to tell you. So at one part during the story, when I went to go meet him, my homeboy jumped in the car with him. And he had another Mexican in the car with him. So he was like, tell Tim to get in the car. So I went in there and I jumped in the car with him.

And there was another Mexican in the front seat that had just got out the feds. He's actually in the feds right now. So he's like, hey, what's up, fool? He's like, hey, this is my homeboy right here. And I was like, hey, what's up, dog? And he just looked back at me like that. And he's like, what's up, because. So like a lot of Mexicans, like in central Texas, they say cuss.

They're not like crips or nothing, but they just be like, what's up, cause? That's how they talk. So he's like, what's up, cause? So he's like, if anything ever happens to me, holler at this fool. So I'm thinking in my head, how am I going to holler? I'm going to fucking notice motherfucker. Well, that dude was a motherfucking plug, too.

So he's supplying my homie that I'm in the joint with. So the next day he calls me, we go out to the house. I take 50 bands out there. We go out to this house in the country in a little town called Belton. So we go out to the country. So when I go in there, he tries to sell me a QP. But there's a fucking Crown Vic on 22s or 24s all 5% limo 10. I can't see who's in it.

But I can see it's a car full of motherfuckers. And I'm like, I'm like, bro, I don't, fuck I ain't what the fuck. I don't need this. Like this, you already know, bro. Like, if you're moving weight, like, if I'm moving weight, like, what the fuck is four zip's going to do for me? Yeah, it's already gone. It's like, that ain't shit.

You're wasting my fucking time. Like, I got fucking 50 Gs in my bag. Like, I'm riding with a case. I'm on paper. You're fucking playing games homeboy. So he was just like, tell me who your plug is. And I'm like, bro, because they're trying to see if I'm a fed or not. That's what he's really doing.

And I'm like, bro, I'm not telling you who he is. But when I come out, I'm like, bro, when you got something for real, like, he's like, I can get you more. I said, well, then holler at me when you got it. So when I leave and come out, that dude that was in the car with my plug, he's, in that Crown Vic looking at me. So he immediately recognized me. So I jump in the fucking truck with my homeboy, and we're driving.

My home boy's driving. And I got a fucking burretta on me. One of them, you know, the barretta's, the nine millimeters, like the fucking 90 cop pistols. So I got this burretta on me and we're riding. These motherfuckers start following us. We're going down this lumpy-ass dirt road. My homeboy's in that big ass 3,500 I'm telling you about.

So he's like, you want me to leave these motherfuckers? I said, no, no, no, let them follow us. So we come out, we hit the, we hit the pavement, we bust a right, we're on the access road next to the highway. So we go to get on the highway. I said, get on the access road. Hurry up and pull a quick one. So he got over.

They follow us. So I'm like, me, what the fuck? And he's like, what you think they're trying to jack? I said, man, shit, fuck it dog. I said, it is what it is. Let's make this shit happen. So I said, pull over at the gas station. When you pull over, I said, I'm going to jump out.

If they're on some trip, shit, I said, I'm going to fucking bust on them. Just drive off, save that money and, you know, keep it what it was. Because like I told you, I'm like still institutionally. lies like I'm I don't care type shit so we pull up to the gas station and you know the truck is so big it has like that steps that metal step bar deal so I open up the door and I got on some baggy ass sweats and shit that's when big clothes were still in right like the shan john big shan john jeans and shit so I jump out and I put my right foot on the bar my left foot on the ground and I raise my shirt up and I'm like what's up fool but I got my hand on the pit I'm like what's up dog what y'all

want so fucking homie rose the window down and he's like he's like say cuss cuss come come here, but he's driving. He's like, come here, because I'm on this side. So I walk over and he's like, what's up, bro? And I'm like, because like I told you, I only saw half his face. But his voice I remember, I remembered. But I can't remember where I know it from. So I'm like, what's up, fool? He's like, I was in the car with home boy. Will you remember? I'm like, oh, shit. He's like, Ben, he just got busted. I said, I know. And he's like, what are you trying to do? And I was like, well, I owe him this bread and I'm waiting on a phone call. I was like, but I got my own bread.

I'm trying to make some moves. What's up? I got a fucking feeding frenzy on my hand. So he said, coming to my house. So we go deep into the motherfucking woods, go to his house, and fucking we go in the garage.

This motherfucker just pulls out one of them like big ass, like commercial black, fucking thick fucking trash bags, bro, sets it on the ground and he has like fucking like, you know, the tubes at the bank through the drive-through?

Tubes like that are fucking clear. And he's, I'm talking about this ho is stacked up, dude. Like, and he's, so he's like, how many you need? And I was like, well, what is it? And he's like, he's like, they're half bricks. And I'm all like, well, shit, bro. I was like, I got 50. So whatever you'll do for me for 50, he's like, what do you think you can move?

I said, well, I know. And I'm like, honestly, he's my best policy. So I'm going to be straight up with you. So I was like, well, this is what I'm moving. I don't know what I can get rid of, like how fast it'll move. I don't know. I just know that I'm, my shit's on fire right now. So he was all like, all like, all right, bro.

He's like, you think you can handle 12 of them? And then I was like, I don't know. I was like, I don't want to vouch for something. And then you're pissed off and you think I'm playing games and shit like that. And he's like, just take 12 of them. And he's like, can you move bud? And I'm all like, I don't know. I really don't fuck with it like that.

He's like, I got it for cheap. So like, back in the game before Droh started hitting down here, right? Everybody used to smoke that basic ass swag, that fucking backyard boogie shit. But in Cali, their Reggie is like real good. Well, back then it was, right? So here in Texas, they called that mint green, like popcorn bud. They called it popcorn weed. So they call it like high mids.

You know what I'm saying? And you could get that shit from Dallas like a motherfucker because like Dallas, I think it's like a hub for Cali kind of. You know what I'm saying? Because like the lien was out there at one point in time. Like when the lean dried up, like I would go out there and get pints from Dallas or Fort Worth for like 350, 250, shit like that when it got hard to get because I was fucking with that shit for a second.

but it was all coming from Cali. Like every time I dealt with somebody out there, this comes from Cali, this comes from Cali. So he had a fucking another trash can in the garage, fucking trash bag, full of that fucking bud. He's like, man, I'll get this shit to you, $250 a brick. Bricks were going for like $5,500 at that time.

I was like, for real? He's like, yeah, he had another thing full of Xanax bottles. And he's all like, he's like, I got a pharmacist, bro, our fucking whatever you need, I got you. He's like, just call me in a couple days. because da da da da da da i bet so we just start fucking running it like that and i was fucking with him for a minute and then uh so you're moving 12 12 yeah 12 bricks a week sometimes 15 yeah like like yeah yeah like clock like clock work are you how are you selling that out bro i got so spooked

when i got it like that's how i know when i hear motherfuckers be talking because the first time you land with some shit like that bro you're shitting bricks I can get fuck what you're talking about. Like, unless you're just like, I might have been kind of wild, but I put that shit in my car, and all of a sudden the realization was like, fuck, I'm going, if I get caught with this, I'm done. It's a rap.

Yeah, he's how well, you're like five months out of prison? Yeah, I'm like, oh, that's fucking, you got the burrata on you? Yeah. I mean, it's just so fucking, it's so country, bro. It's so, it's so federal, as we used to say. That shit is fatty. Man, I, I, dude, I used to be a pistol-packing motherfucker, bro.

I'm a weapon fanatic. I love, I love, that's the worst thing they did to me when I became a felon was, I love weapons. I'm just one of those, I like weapons. Like, not to hurt people.

I'm just fascinated with weaponry. I love them. Well, I had a homeboy that had a fucking horse stable out in the country. Like, that was the crazy thing about meth, bro. It was like, I got put on with so many people that had businesses.

Like, you would never know they're fucking with this shit. So I had people in all walks of life. So I called dude up. that was out in the country, he had a horse table. And I said, bro, I need to come out to your house

and holler at you real quick. So he's like, yeah. So I shoot out there. And he was a little, he was a smoker. You know what I'm saying? Actually, he didn't even smoke it.

He broke it down into liquid because he didn't want his wife to know he was doing it. So he kept a little dropper and he would drop it in his coffee. Crazy. And then I was all like, I was like, how do you go to sleep at night?

He's like, he's either take Xanax or he said sometimes I'll just play like, I'm a sleep. I was like, so you fake asleep at night with your wife next to you, motherfucker? Like, how long? Because you know, like, meth has, like, physical effects. Like, once you start staying up like that,

you start to look different. Their skin gets oily. You can smell the chemicals coming out of it. Like, it's a different effect type shit. So when I get out there, I was like, hey, bro, I got these birds. I was like, I need to hide them out here. So we wind up hiding him in his horse stable. And fucking, the people that were calling me,

like, say you called me for four, zips. I need four zips. I have basically repeated that dude's line. I said, what can you move, bro? And he's like, what do you mean? I'm like, what can you move? If you can move for, if I give you four, how long will it take you to get rid of the four that I give you? I was like, because I owe somebody some money, but I need to get this shit gone, like what I got. So I'll front you what you buy or I'll give you, if you can get, because, like, dude, just like, so there's people like in the game that they got mad clientele, but they, got the connect. And then there's people that got to connect, but they don't got no clientele.

So it's, you know, it's like that. But sometimes just because a motherfucker's only buying a QP, he might be able to move way more than that, but he just doesn't have the money. Yeah. You know, maybe he don't want to ask and be indebted for that type of shit. So basically what I was doing is I was trying to front out as much as possible. That's, I had my, I had everybody, I knew they were going to buy. And then I was just trying to dump off because it was like, I didn't want the shit near me. Like, I wanted to get rid of it. So, like, after, that basically my job was like every three four days i would just be riding around picking up money and i would always pay the connect first but it was a crew of us so um we were making so much bread

uh there was a group that like tried to extort us they never said nothing to me but they tried to extort them you know i'm saying a group that was that's it's a it's a prison group they were trying to extort them and uh they never said nothing to me i I know they were like watching. Like you were trying to get a group in prison, based in prison, was trying to extort dudes on the street. Yeah. That's like some Mexican mafia shit.

Yeah. Did you know about that? About Lime? I don't know about the rest of the country, but in California. They did that in Cali. They get street dealers to kick up money to them. It's like, dude, how are you that powerful? You're incarcerated, but you're demanding attacks off of all of your soldiers.

So from what I was told is, that the dude that's in the feds now, I guess he was fucking with them in the feds or something. I don't know if he was one of them. I never asked. But that was how that connection got made. And I remember when I went out to his house, he was like, hey, if these people come to you, he said my name was brought up. And I'm thinking, how is my name brought up?

Like, I don't even hang out with drug dealers. Like, I got insulated to the point to where, like, I didn't do, dude, I just made moves. Like I wasn't bro like I would be it so I would be in as soon as the sun went down if the sun went down at six seven o'clock I was on I 35 coming down here to Austin going to the strip club going to perfect 10 and round rock and going it's called rick's cabaret now but it used to be called joy I was in both those clubs down here on six street like I was a strip club bandit dog what was that strip club in Austin we I went to it was like 2013 it was a bring your own beer strip club shit might have been the pink monkey or, uh, I couldn't tell you, but it was some of the nastiest bitches I've ever seen. It was so perfect to be at like a bachelor party. These bitches had like B.O. One of them was like growing a tail. It was wild. And we were in there with a 24. Like it was a bring your own beer strip club. We were like, yo, Texas is different. Yeah. Dude, Texas is fully nudes, bro. Our fucking ratchet dog. Oh, we were dying laughing. Yeah. Like this shit is crazy. He's like,

creatures. They should have been called creatures. They'll be having gunshot wounds and shit like that. Like there was one in a fucking Waco called Sunny T's. And I remember me and all my homeboys, they wanted to come to Austin for my buddy's birthday. And then the one dude was like, no, let's go to Sunny T's. And I was like

Waco. And you know, Waco is like, you see like them motherfucking backwards ass white people like they like fucking like fucking the hills have eyes type shit bro, like straight up. And Waco like I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. Like, people say, like, Texas is like, like, a real racist place. Let me tell you something, dog, like, there's pictures you can look up of Waco where they were, like,

hanging motherfuckers and shit. Like, when you go to Waco, you feel like you step back in time. All right, class, settle down. Today's lesson is on the Argo Rewards app. Try to stay with me. The fundamentals are simple. Earn at least five cents a gallon in rewards, then redeem them later for up to a dollar off every gallon. Now here's where it gets complicated.

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Like, I don't fucking lie. So we wind up going to Sunny T's. Bro, I remember we went in there. It was so nasty. And I was like, dog, I walked out. I'm like, bro, I'm not coming in this motherfucker. Like, I need to be around some high-end shit. Like, I'm, like, I fucked around in the strip clubs, not to buy dances.

It's because when I came home from prison the first time, when I went to a real club, there used to be a club in Temple called Denham and Diamonds. I had a panic attack because motherfuckers just walking and bumping me, brushing my back. And when I went to prison the first time, like, you don't get up on somebody's back dog. So, like, I was, like, looking, and there was a lot of the cops were in. in there and they knew who I was because like I told you when I had hit them licks on all them houses one of them was the sheriff so when you come home they let everybody know you're home so I'm not even supposed to be in this motherfucker but they're cool they ain't tripping and they

would come to me and they're like because I had took a beer and I poured it out because I wasn't even in their drinking I just took a beer and I went in the bathroom and poured it out and put it in my back pocket just in case and uh they were like Tim why don't you go home bro and I'm like what do you mean and they were like you look like you're not having a good time so when I went to the strip club the first time with that chick, I was calm because nobody could get up on me. I'm chilling. So why were you in there?

Why did you love going to strip club so much? Dude, because it was, hey, you get to see naked chicks. That's a good point. But, like, what a gay question I just guys. You get, but, but that shit kind of made me feel perverted for a little while, but that's why I never bought no dances. Like, the only time that I ever bought dances in the strip club is if I was extremely intoxicated.

Like I had to be like really drunk or rolling on ecstasy. And it would like break my morals down. But no, because when I went in there, because when that chick took me in there, she was introducing me to so many strippers. And you know the crazy thing about male and female dynamics? Is if you're, if a female can really tell that you're not trying to sleep with her, she'll fuck with you hard.

Oh, yeah. So when they saw that I wasn't in there, like trying to fuck with them, and then they saw I had money because I used to like fold my money in $100 stacks. So I, like I told you, I'm wearing Sean John jeans, rock-a-wear jeans.

Like when GZ said I can fit a hundred thousand in these shots. Dude, I used to keep 40 Gs on me at all time, 10 racks in each pocket. I'd bust out, boom. I'd be like, whatever, bro. And they're like,

why you ain't buying dances? I was like, well, what, it's a $20 a song? Here, sit here for four songs. Here, you need $100 bucks? Holler at me. Like, I ain't in here for pussy.

I'm just in here to chop it up because once, they realized that I wasn't in there for that, dude, they started fucking with me so tough. I would, like I said, I bounced between those two strip clubs all the time. They would call me, hey, come over here. It's live over here. I'm getting to go to VIP. I'm getting to hang out.

Just, just networking. Like, I met, you know, big stock market dudes that were trying to invest money for me. You know, that's like I got to ride. I'll say his name. I don't even know if he's still alive. His name was Bill. Like the first condominiums that were built in downtown Austin, they're off Lamar. like Lamar and 9th or something like that over there by the frescas or fresas or some shit like

right in that area yeah okay those are those were the those were the first if i'm not mistaken the first condos built in downtown austin and this motherfucker because of the strip club entered like started calling me he was trying to get me to invest my money because he was an investor and uh he had a fucking Porsche he had a Ferrari like he took me riding around in the shit brought me to his condo for after hours parties so you were were just kind of using it to, I guess, meet people. But you weren't meeting clients there. No, no, hell not, because meth at that time was still an underground game. Yeah. Like that was a very hush, hush game. Like, it was like an underground. I remember when

meth was really bubbling, no pun intended, in this era, the mid-2000s. Yeah. It was like this underground fraternity. And I had this dude who was really in the know. He was like, you guys don't know this yet, but like meth is this kind of like unspoken. an epidemic. Yeah. And then I went to jail and I really saw how how fucking prolific it was. Yeah. Because, you know, that's where you meet people that are involved in the game. And yeah, it's like, it's like this dude is hiding fucking 20 pounds of meth for me and he's a fucking doctor. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, yeah, it was really a fascinating era. I remember that. My homie that's in the feds right now doing 35, he had a doctor, uh, he had a doctor doing stuff like

that for him. Like he had a house and a boat. He had a fucking Mercedes. Yeah. The fucking like the E class, AMG kid or some shit. Like dude, he had all do white gold, white boy, uh, white gold and bottom. Like he had like 50,000 in his mouth. And I remember I asked him because he took us out on his boat. I'm like, how you got all that? How are you doing it with the money? Because I always flipped like hoodoo's. Like I always flipped cash cars. Right. Like I never like, I didn't buy jewelry. I just wore new clothes all the time. Right. But I was like a big time partier.

You know what I'm saying? And like what's crazy like that. So that click like of dudes, like the higher up the food chain, they would steal me. So that first dude that I was getting work from, somebody higher than him stole me from him. Right, right. And then it went all the way up until I was fucking with like one of the top motherfuckers.

Okay. Who was that? Tell us about that. That was the white boy. that was the white boy yeah he was he was doing his thing he was fucking yeah he was he was he was making it happen what you mean the white the white dude with the that that i told you that's doing 35 in the fed oh you mean but he's mexican though no no not he these are all essays but he's the only white boy but he's higher up and he's the one serving all the fucking mexicans that's crazy how long did it

take you to meet him after you started i mean i met him off the rip because we would like sometimes i'd come over and would they would all be over there or they had to be barbecuing and they'd be like hey come over and kick it cuss and uh they'd like i'll be like i'm about to go to austin no you always going to the strip club tricking with them hose and i'm like i ain't i ain't tricking like and then one time i took them out for one of them one of the dudes his birthday i was like bro you want to go to the strip club i was like bring your chick bro so we all went to the strip club and we got VIP and uh i was paying and they were paying too but i was i was trying to do it on my dime i'm just that type of person i'm a real generous person like i'm even i'm a

very good tipper. Like if we were to go to the bar right now, like I would tip like probably 50%. That's just the type of cat. So, uh, they saw that I actually didn't trick. And then I knew all these females were like, bro, how are you cool with these chicks? And I'm like, because they know I ain't trying to fuck them. So you also weren't using meth. No, no, no. They must have recognized that right away. Because most of the people that sell meth also use it. They use it. Yeah. I mean, most people that sell dope, any type of dope, they use their product or they'll eventually get to use their products. Even all those dudes used that shit. Yeah.

They used it. The white boy was using it. I didn't even know it. One time I went to his house and he spazzed out on me and he was like, motherfucker, who are you talking to? Because I got locked up on a case, on an assault case, and they had me on. They wouldn't let me bond out. And then

finally I bonded out. So the first thing people were saying was I was, there was, oh, he's telling, he's telling, he got out of jail. I'm like, on a misdemeanor assault. Right. Like what the fuck? So I went to his house because I owed him some bread. And I just showed up at his house because he wasn't answering the phone. So I went down, I went to his shit.

I seen his car was there. So I go and knock on the door. He opens up the door. He's all buck eye and shit, fucking skin all oily. I didn't even know he fucked around like that. And I'm like, hey, bro. He's like, when the fuck do you get out? And I was like yesterday.

So I go in there and I give him his money. And we're talking in the kitchen. And he's like looking at me all crazy. And he's got this goddamn fucking John Deer knife. you know the hunter's nice with like the it looks like a bone handle type shit he's like got this knife right there and i see he's got the bolo out with some clear on the thing and i'm like is this fool smoking and next of you know he's asking me some questions and work close to each other and he just like grabs the knife and turns and grabs me like that and he puts it up to him he's like

and he's done time before he's like you fucking you fucking ratting cuss you rat i'm like dog you're fucking tripping bro and he's so spazzed out his eye his puer pupils were so fucking big. And I'm like, but I was literally scared because I know he's crazy. He's like one of those, he's been shot and everything. He's a crazy white boy. Like he's known. He's on the east side.

Everybody knows him. So I'm out of temple? Yeah. So I'm like, bro, this. And what you know what's crazy is that he used to be a hardcore dope theme before he blew up in the game. He used to be a base head. He used to smoke rock.

Oh, shit. Yeah. And he blew up. So he like kind of like did it reverse roll. So how, how did he, how much was he, how much was he breaking you off? Like when you met him, did your business expand? The only thing that happened was I never went higher than what I was getting. The only thing that happened was the price got lower. Okay. So how much was he giving you? Are they selling it in keys or pounds? They were selling it. So when I

started fucking with him, he was giving him to me in half britt, like half in pounds. Yeah. So when I started fucking with him, he was giving him to me for like six. Six thousand a pound. Yeah. And I could let, I could let him go for 11, 12, all day long. And you would just wholesale him. Yeah, I would, I I dump them off. I'd be like, bro, give me eight. Like I was that type of guy, I'm like, bro, give me eight. You can come get this motherfucker. Oh, so these are flying off the show. Oh, they're fucking taking the fuck off.

Wow. So you could sell that. You could sell 12 kilos a week? Oh, easy. Every eight to 10 days. Every eight to 10 days, I was rotating. But I would always keep some back in case something happened. Okay, something, you wouldn't sell them all in case one of your dealers fucked up.

You still have more work. Yeah. You could get on. And a cool thing about being in that little crew was, like, say, I would call Homeboy, and he'd be like, I ain't got nothing right now. It's going to be a couple days. Then I could just call one of the other dudes and be like, hey, you hope, what you hold. I'm going to have to pay a little more for it.

But it don't matter because it's still a deal. I'm still winning. Nobody's getting it at this price. And keep your business. Yeah. A rectile dysfunction. Everyone's got it. Let's not even pretend anymore, okay?

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I thought you were talking about Barbie for a second. They call him Wetto. Yeah, I know you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about. He was raised, he's born in Nuevo Laredo, in Mexico, but he was raised in Laredo, Texas. I thought he was the guy you were talking about. He was your plug.

Yeah, no. But he was mostly, he was vicious. He was mostly in Mexico when he was making his moves. who was he, your white boy, your connect, he must have had the straight border brothers. Yeah, he did, yeah. He must have been working with, what year is this? This was, uh, 2007 era. So he was probably either working with the Gulf cartel.

This is a little before the Zetas time. The Zetas were a breakoff. They were security. I know they were. I dealt with one of them before. Okay. Yeah, he was crazy as fuck. Yeah.

Crazy as fun. Yeah, I met him in the strip club. That's how I got it linked up with him. Oh, wow. He was, I did one deal with him and I never called him again. You were like, man, I'm getting. Dog, he, I could, bro, like, you well, you've been to prison, but have, like, have you ever been around people who've, like, murdered people before? Sellmate.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know that. I look in their eye. Yeah.

Like, bro, like, I ain't ever laid no game down like that, bro. And when you're, when you're messing with somebody who's, like, really like that, you know, that's a different level of, of, like, mental, dog. Like, you're, it's like, and he was. very like edgy. Yeah. I didn't like it. I'm like, bro, I'm just trying to make some paper, bro. I ain't talking, I'm not on no bullshit, bro.

Like, I'm not here to play you. I just, every time I talk to him, it was very on edge, even in the strip club. And then when I decided to do a deal with him, he just made it even more sketchy that it needed to be. Yeah, because when I went and dealt with him, there was like an SUV. So he was right here. I was right here. The SUV was right here. And it was full of Mexicans, full of Pisa Mexicans.

looking at me fucking just like I was like dog gnaw like I'm not I'm good bro like I'm not on that game yeah for sure so yes but it was probably your plug was probably working with those guys yeah you know or you know those guys but but the lieutenants yeah on the other side because that's that's the only way you can get that kind of price yeah and he's able to hit off four dudes that still have the best price yeah whatever locale they're dumping it off right? That's insane. Oh, they were all moving.

They were, they were all moving. They were probably moving more than me. They were definitely moving more than me, bro. Especially Homeboy. That's, yeah, they were, they were, I don't even know truly what they were really getting, but I know that. But do you, this is millions of dollars.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, shit, you got, you got to think, you got to think, dog, I was doing 220, low end 180, 190, every eight, nine days, 22, 240, and a small-ass town. This shit happened overnight, basically. Yeah, overnight, bro.

Overnight, like, turned the fuck up crazy. And you're still checking in with your PO? Yeah, I'm still doing everything like it was nothing, dude. Like, it was nothing. Like, it was nothing. Did it blow your mind? Like, you came from this environment, this zoo.

Yeah. And you're kicking it with blacks. It's all blacks. And now your crew is, like, Mexicans and sketchy white guys. Yeah. Dude, so I had never seen like paper like that before, bro. So I remember he's a good friend of mine now.

His mom, she took care of me when I was in prison a second time. So, like, we grew up together. And I remember I was at his house. And he was living with his mom. He lived with his mom for a long time. Like, he's always been like a mama's boy. But like when his grandma, passed. He went through like a deep depression. So like, uh, I was at his house one time and I had just

went and rode around and picked up a bunch of bread and I came to his house and he does music. Like, uh, he does like hip hop music like the like the conscious rap hip hop shit. That's not popular. But he can play, yeah, but he can play the piano and shit. So he has like this old piano that his grandmother had from back in the game. And I remember I pulled out the bag, and I'm counting the money and I'm sitting on top of the piano in my. hands are going like this and my eyes started fluttering and I had to step back and I was like went like this and he was looking at me and he was smoking weed and he's like what's wrong bro and I was like I said bro do you know how much money is sitting right here dog and I hadn't count I'm just counting

everything but it's all lined up and I'm like do you know much money is sitting right here bro and he's like what I was like brother's $250,000 and he's like what I was like dog could you believe somebody like me would see money like this. And he was looking, he's like, that's really how much it is. And I was like, bro, count it with me. Let's count it. Like, and, because I was that type of dude, like, if we would go out and you would be like, I ain't got no money, like, say you worked and you're like, I don't got no money. And I'd be like, here, fool, I give you $500. Yeah. Let's go out. Well, I don't want to pay you back. It's yours. You don't owe me nothing, have a good time, act like it's

yours. Like, I just wanted people around me to, like, to be cool. and shit. Yeah. Yeah, I remember counting up, like, because I would routinely have that kind of bread. Yeah. I mean, especially if I was getting ready to go re-up or whatever. And I would just, bro, I would spend hours just, like, counting money alone.

Pre-Internet. Yeah. I think about that era, I'll never be more alone. I don't want to say it was lonely, but I'll never be more alone than 2010 at the top. I had this whole townhouse and I lived on the top floor. The bottom floor was a family. It was a super high-end area in Portland.

You would have never known. It just overlooked the Willamette River. And I would just, no smartphones, and I'm just alone looking at all this bread. And I was like, wow, I'm the luckiest motherfucker on earth. Because you get, because like the more bread. That weed money was a lot harder than the meth money. But I had a click into where it was just grab it, dump it.

get paid. Oh, nah, shit. I got a homie who just got out the feds last year from that area. Black dude, that motherfucker was dumping trunk loads. Crazy. He is killing it. Full got a Lambo and everything. I don't know if he sold it or whatnot, but I know he bought

my car for me, because the only coolest thing that I can say that I bought, because I never bought nothing like flashy and shit like that, but I had bought like an 88 Caprice Classic, Broham, L.S. Shortback, fucking long, in with the cat eyes, the real glass fucking headlights, bro.

I got it off this old white man. He had it. It was like, bro, it had like 78,000 miles on a quarter ragtop. Fucking pearl white paint job. It had like a little bit of chips in it and shit, but it still had the caprice white, like, with the white striped tires and the hubcaps. And I got it. I remember, like, had a 305 in it.

And I remember like a week later, started puffing smoke. But I had a couple of mechanics on my team. So one of the mechanics, he had the same. he had the same name as me, and I went to school with him, his name was Tim. So I'd go to his shop, and I'd give him work,

and we'd fix the car, but if he got too twacked out, this motherfucker would be like, goddamn, he had a flashlight on his forehead. He'd be like, goddamn fucking, uh,

uh, Kim, like, taking all shit, like, take it. I'm like, what are you doing, motherfucker?

So I had met, I had another mechanic that was a lick of mine, and I went to him, and we wound up taking the 305 out and putting the 350 in that motherfucker. Right. And then I had,

uh, the, uh, the muffler on the back. I put the muffler with the Chevy symbol on that bitch. I had it repainted fucking, fucking Pearl White with flakes in it. I had the quarter rack top redone. It looked like a brand new caprice.

I had that bitch sitting on 24s. I had the trunk all. Yeah, dog, I had the motherfucker. I had the truck all fucking banged out. I had the red wood grain steering wheel that I went and got from Houston. I'm going to, and then when I went on the run, and then when I went on the run, for the case that sent me back to prison, I had called my homie who just got out.

Like, he got out last year, I think of the year before. I called him and I said, bro, you want to buy it? You want to buy the Caprice? He said, what you want for it? I was like, what you give me for it? And he was like, shit, I'll get you $2,500 for it. I'm like, $2,500.

I'm putting how much money. He's like, shit, Tim. You obviously need the money. What you got going on? What you got to go on and run it? I'm like, I'm like, bro, I'm about the dip full. I was like, bring me to bread. I sold that car for nothing.

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Man, coolest motherfucker, bro. He had like five, six bodies on him. Like ice, water, cool dude. He was one of the dudes that vouts for me as a bounty hunter and stuff like that. I was writing him. I sent him some bread, and then he wrote me and asked me to stop writing him. Really? And to let him, yeah, he said, man, put this life behind you, bro.

Get on with your life. Do something positive. You know, you're too good for this, you know, stuff like that. Were there cell phones now? I didn't ask you that in the first episode. Are cell phones pretty big in Texas? Oh, fuck, yeah. They had cell phones the first time I was in there.

I saw one. Never used it. When I went back the second time, fuck yeah. Them old fuckers got cell phones. They got watches. But I mean, bro, if you get caught with that, you're talking like extra five years, seven years.

Crazy. And, bro, everybody's going to tell it. Yeah. They're going to tell it, dog. if you get caught with that motherfucker. So I didn't even play like that. Like when I went back to second time, I just wanted to go home.

Okay. So how long were you on the streets before you caught your second case? I was only on the streets a few years, bro. But you were moving the whole time. Yeah, yeah. I was, I was, mm-hmm. Dude, this is what's crazy.

So like- So you touched millions of dollars. Oh, for sure. Wow. For sure. Yeah, yeah. I know personally that I had saved up two mill. Yeah, that's why.

Yeah, I personally, I know that I had saved up two-mill dog. And I didn't own shit. Bro, what was so crazy is I was like a fucking nomad. Like, I would sleep on your couch. I'd go sleep on his couch. Nobody knew where I lived at. I had isolated myself so much. I flipped nothing but hoodoo wagons, like, stayed so low-key.

The only time you would ever see me is like that club I told you about in Temple was called Denham and Diamonds. Every Thursday night, college night, they play like four or five country songs and then four or five like rap dance songs, I'd be in that bitch every Thursday so you could catch me there. Otherwise, you'd have to catch me down here in Austin at the strip club.

Right. That was my low-key, kick it in the strip club, stay out the way, as soon as, like I told you, every night never fail, seven days a week. As soon as the sun started going down, I was gone. I was a ghost. You didn't know me.

I wasn't here. I didn't answer the phone. Like, when did you make your moves during the day? Oh, during the day, yeah. Yeah. Because I will wake up, bro, to like 25, 30 miss calls. Like it was, it was, dude, it was crazy dog.

Like my, all that we were doing was riding around picking up money. That was like, like, uh, like that, that lean, that drank. I had got caught up fucking with that shit for a second. Because you're using it? Yeah, I was using it. I bought it too. Like, I had to connect on it, uh, down here. He was originally from the H.

He's a club owner at downtown. He's still down there. And so I won't throw his name out there. But, uh, he fucking. And he had them pints. And, you know, the crazy thing about that drank dog is like when it went to the plastic pints, like people would cut it. So they'd get like that big ass syringe.

I think you can get it from the grocery store. I never did it before. But they would heat the bottom of it where like the bottle comes together type shit. And they had plunged into it and they would pull some of it out. And then they would inject it with like K-Roe or something. And they would melt it back together. So some of them, they were so good at it that you couldn't see the bottom. so like how you could tell if your fucking drink was cut,

your lean is you put it in the freezer and the the drink won't freeze. Yeah, but that shit was like candy dog, but I had got on that shit for like a second drinking it. And then I remember one night I woke up in my bed and I had money like all over me on the floor. I walked to the car, had money all over my car. And then like I usually like always kept like somebody with me 24-7.

So I came back in and I walked. I woke my homeboy up and I was like, hey, where'd all this money come from? And he's like, you don't remember? And I'm like, nah. And he's like, bro, we rode around last night and you were just picking up money. And then a couple weeks later, I misplaced $10,000 and I couldn't find it. And I hate losing money. Like, I just cannot stand it like.

And when I couldn't find that $10,000, like, I don't know where I put it, what I did with it. And my homeboy was like, well, you picked it up. And fucking, I never found it. To this day, I couldn't tell you. where it went to, I stopped drinking it right then. I didn't touch that bitch-ass shit again. Look, I don't know if you guys have had this experience,

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checkout for $20 off your membership. And when you sign up, make sure you tell them you heard about it on the Connect. So you were really about your paper, like way more than drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know when you did dabble. Yeah, no, no, I only wrote the ecstasy thing. Like when I had got caught up into ecstasy, my homeboy that I was in the pin with, he got me on ecstasy with him. And when I would go out, even in the street, strip club, I would be extremely tense. I wasn't fun to go out with because I would just be sitting there watching everybody.

Like I, even today, if I go to a restaurant, I sit watching the door. Yeah. Like, I'm still like that to this day. That's what your first prison bid did to you? Yeah, yeah. It's just like, bro, I still, when I take a shit, I take one one fucking boxer and leap it out

and I shit with one short sitting over there, sitting on the toilet. My girl coming to bathroom, she's like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, what you mean? You know, that's- Is everyone shit like this? Yeah, I'm like, bro, I can't, like, I can't go to sleep without any noise because prison is so loud all the time and they wake you up all the time.

I have to have, like, something going, like, I can't, if it's too quiet, because you know in prison, like, especially if you're in a violent prison, if it's too peaceful, you know something fucked up is about to happen. It's about to get gangster. So, like, you need that little bit of drama to keep things cool. So, like, I'm just, if it gets too quiet, I get paranoid, I'll get up and look around the window. You know, my girl, like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, you ain't hear that out there? Because even though I don't stay in a bad area, like where I stay at, like I stay right outside of downtown, like,

they're still fucking dofiends walking around. It's still shit, so, but, but yeah, I was about the money, bro. Like, I was. And you, you're picking up, like, lots of fucking meth. Yeah. I mean, 12 pounds of meth or something. Yeah, 12 pounds of meth at the time. Where did you have different stash spots?

Did you have people running it for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, well, dude, in the future, I wound up landing a plug, a West Coast plug, and he, I wound up meeting him through his cousin, and I got a West Coast Connect. So I eventually, like, stopped fucking with them dudes all together. Oh, wow. I got a West Coast Connect. Also a Mexican guy? Yeah, yeah.

And he would just send me to a stash house, which was in some rich-ass neighborhood. and I would just pick it up and fucking go and I would drop shit off and I would always go pick it up myself because I was always real slick about how I did shit and then like I had like I told you I had mechanics that could put like stash bots in the car and shit like that so like I'd be real slick right so I'd start up like an LLC and I you know have an LLC on there and I'd have I'd have like the magnetic stickers on the side of the car and then I'd put a button up shirt on and I didn't know how to do a tie so I'd have a clip on tie so I'd have a clip on tie. and I'd have long sleeves because at this time I didn't have my hands tatted so I only had my sleeves because I'm sleeved out and chest pieced out and I only had this gun on the side of my neck I didn't have this and I didn't have this

so I put on long sleeves I put on the clip on tie and I'd sit up straight and I would drive just like this and I'd have it in the spot and like the car never smelled like bud I even still to this day I drive on cruise control yeah yeah like you know that's like the number one way motherfuckers get busted a lot of times

It's like petty-ass traffic stops. Yeah. You know, so when I landed that plug right there. That was a better plug? Yeah. Sounds like it. You got a better ticket? Man, I was getting them hose for three Gs.

Three thousand a pound? Yeah. He gave him to me at five. You know how I landed that plug, bro? That's insane. That's like... Bro, I landed that plug through the military. What?

Straight up. Go in, dude. Do tell. My partner came back from fucking the whole. Iraq war and shit and a dude he fucking introduced me to this female because he knew

so he was deployed with her cousin and just by chance she stayed there he knew from him that his people fucked around like that so he talked to her because he didn't want to go straight to him because he felt like that dude was going to be like because that dude didn't fuck around

but his people did but he felt like if he went to him about it. He was going to be like, bro, what are you doing? We're not supposed to be? You know, that whole like military shit. So he introduced me to his cousin. Me and her started chopping it up and she made the phone call to him. And then he talked to me on the phone and then he introduced me to his family out there and he made the introduction. Yeah. Wow. That's fucking crazy. And that's how and that's how that happened. Yeah. You just never know. Yeah. And they flew me out there and we chopped it up and No. Where was he based out of? What part of Cali? No, no, it was A-Z.

Oh, you just said California? No, did I say, I said West Coast. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was trying to keep it. Whatever, but it was the A-Z. Yeah, it was the A-Z West Coast. That's still West Coast, ain't it? We don't, Cass from Cali don't consider it at the West Coast. Oh. You got to be Cali. I always called it, the West Coast shit. Yeah, I mean, it's the Southwest.

Yeah. Oh, so you were fucking with the Cinaloa Cartel then, because that's where they're, that whole area, They own Sonora. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They own right across the border. They own that whole plaza. So that's fucking, so you're getting, you're paying like $300 an ounce. Yeah.

It was stupid crazy. Wow. So it's just flying. And you, what's ironic is you never, you never got caught up on, because this is a huge federal case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you could have been doing like mandatory 10, 15, 20 years. And you got popped on some bullshit. On some bullshit.

Yeah. And it was like a half a zip. half a zone, yeah. A powder. I didn't even fuck with. Of cocaine, right. It wasn't even meth. You never got pop with any meth.

They never raided you. They never found any money, anything like that. That's fucking good job, dude. I just call it, I call it skill and dumb look. I was extremely paranoid. I never forgot where I came from. So like, when police go to creating rats, they don't when they want to bust like the people that are holding weight they go to the sewer first

so like i got a homie in the feds right now three people are on his paperwork he don't even know who the fuck they are maybe he does but he doesn't remember them so like say like so that first dude i told you about say he'd be in some trap house smoking dope he'd call me he'd be like hey you know a dude named johnny i'd be like nah i'd be like take a picture of him you know my have like the Motorola razor and all some bullshit like that. He'd take a grainy ass picture of you. You wouldn't even know it. Send it to me.

And I'd be like, who the fuck is that? And this fool talking about, he's got some work over here. He's talking about he buys it from you. He knows you. He describes you. He talked about the gun on the side of your neck.

He knows you. I'm like, what? I don't know that motherfucker. I don't know him. So like even like dancers, they would call me in Austin. They'd be like,

hey, Tim. I'm like, because I didn't ever like, I've had a couple licks up here, but nothing like that. It wasn't even up here like that. So they had come in, like, you know, this motherfucker, same shit. I'm like, I don't know who the fuck that dude is.

Like, so, like, I kept... What was that about? When your name's ringing like that, people just want to identify with you. Because, like, I had a very good name in the game because I didn't get high. Right. That was the thing. So people, even my licks would call me nicknames. So if they brought me up, they would never say my real name.

They all had, they would do it on their own. I never told them to do it. They would just give me a nickname. nickname and I would never wanted to meet anybody. I'm like, hey, don't, I don't want nobody over here. I don't need nobody seeing me. Like, let's not do it like this. You know, and I was very weird like that. Even when I was a small time or like, not to be on no fucked up shit, but like, oh, when I was just, like, when I first started getting paper, like, like when I first started kind of making it happen, like there was no black people that smoked that shit, right? So if I came in your apartment and you had a black dude in there, I'm walking out. I'm not saying shit. I'm turning around and walking the fuck out.

You come out, you're like, what are you doing? I'm like, what the fuck is he doing in there? Who is that? Or who is she? Black people don't fuck with that shit. So that motherfucker's either a jacker or a cop. Either way it goes, I'm not doing nothing. Motherfucker, like we ain't even playing that game, bro.

I'm not doing none of that. So you never sold to any black people. No, no, hell not. Because I didn't trust them not on no racial shit because they weren't in that game. They weren't in the game. They've since got in the game. They've gotten it now, yeah. In that era, 0809.

They were still fucking with cocaine. I never met any black dudes that sold meth. No, they're in it now, like a good, like, so my homeboy that I told you I grew up with, I told you his dad passed away. Like his, their little brother, their baby brother, he fucks with that shit. You know what I'm saying? He's incarcerated right now. He fucks with it.

So, yeah, now would be a different time, obviously. But back then, it was like, it's like, nah, a fool. Like, fuck, no. I'm not, I'm not. It's like maybe like when crack blew up and you saw a square-ass white dude come down there. you're like, what the fuck's this white boy doing down here buying fucking crack? Right. Although hell of white boys spoke crack.

Fuck yeah. But I'm just saying maybe when it first blew up or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, because, you know, back then, I'm, no, I wasn't alive. Like, it was like free base and shit. You know, the white boys probably weren't buying hard rock at that time. Right, exactly. So, you know, it's the same stigma.

You know, you see people who usually don't fuck with the shit. Now you up in here fucking with the shit. Like, nah, you ain't not around me. You're not. Yeah. Just like, if I, like, if you say, like, you rotated every three, four days. I heard from you every three, four days.

And then I didn't hear from you. I'm, make a call, you send you a text. You don't answer. Then maybe like, say, five, six days later, you call me. And then you're like, yeah, I just got out of jail. And I'm like, all right, I'm not going to think that you're telling. I'm like, what did you go to jail for? I went to jail for this or went to jail for that.

I'm like, okay, well, what's up? Oh, yeah, I need to get this. And you all of a sudden, like, maybe change up your buy pattern. I'd be like, oh, okay, even if it might be the same shit. But you can usually tell when somebody's conversation is different, right? Especially like me being from the streets and then me being in prison, I pay attention to conversation extremely well. So like, your conversation changes a little bit.

So then I'm going to be, I'm going to get off the phone, call a friend of mine, hey, run this dude's name. What's up? Like, what's up with them? I can't find nothing on them. But if I'm paranoid, I'm dropping. that phone, you're never talking to me again. As soon as I smell something funny,

I don't give a fuck if you're making fucking... You're not chanted. Yeah, I'm not even chance. It's not worth it. Once you start touching paper, real paper, bro, all that dumb shit goes out the window. Like, it's not even worth... It's not even worth the risk.

I had dudes burn me for so much money. I had a white boy named Trevor. Sure, shit, bro. Straight up, dude. Stay straight. White boy named Trevor, bro. Fucking gay ass name. Yeah. Trevor Wallace.

Was it Trevor Wallace? Bro, so my homeboy that, I told you his dad passed away, Ray, their youngest brother, he's in the joint right now. And he's fighting a case. I won't say his name. But it's crazy. He's in the joint, but he's fighting another case. So he's about to get extradited to another, they're waiting to see. So he's got to go fight a case somewhere.

So anyways, long story short, he introduces me to this white boy. He's like, hey, I got this white boy. He's on. He can make moves for you. So I'm like, all right. So I go over there and I see him. And he's like, I can do this and I can do that. And I'm all like, all right.

I was like, you can't? I was like, well, when can you make some moves? And he was all like, I can get off five zips right now. And I'm all like, well, we'll shut on. We ain't going to start there. I don't even fucking know you. And I was like, so let me see what you can do. Like, let like get them to come with the money.

I don't want to meet them. but get the money here. I'm not just going to front you something because he thought I was just going to chunk it to him because my homeboy told him he'll give you whatever because I would like if I knew that you could make bread I'd give it to you. I'm like what the fuck can you do?

Like you be like, hey, can I get a zip? And I'd be like, I didn't even sell zips anymore but just say it was that time. I'd be like, well, what can you really dump off in like a week's time? Oh, I could probably move like eight, nine of them. Well, bad, I'll just give you eight, nine of them, holler at me in a week.

And if you burn me for that money, then I just don't fuck with you no more. You're burning, you're cutting your, your own fucking throat. Yeah, because it's not, the price you're paying is like, it's not chocked out. Yeah, it's, it's chock up. So like this dude, that dude, Trevor, that dude was making $10,000 for me a day. Holy shit. Over the summer, I'm not lying. It was fucking insane. I'm like, how the

fuck is this, this fool is fucking, but he knew all these people in these little country towns. That's where the, that's where the meth got moved. Yeah. It's these invisible communities. Dude. The mainstream America, like I said, like I didn't, I didn't, I I didn't know anybody coming from Portland, Oregon. I had to go to jail to realize the epidemic because that's where these motherfuckers are coming from. It's like the suburbs, which you think is like, oh, the suburban,

that's where rich people live. Not no more, bro. Rich people live in the city because this is the most valuable property. Nobody wants to live in an ass suburb. God damn right. You know. Bro, but he burnt me for 50 racks. He just didn't come back?

Yeah, he just, I fronted it to him. and I kind of felt like it was going to happen because he had came up like a few times when he re-up with me because he wasn't even spinning with me I was just chunking it to him he was coming like a couple thousand short all this and all that

and he smoked he fucked around and you know tricking with the females and shit and a dude fucking I hadn't hit him off and he went in the hole with me bad and then he dodged me for like dude just could have been two three weeks I ran into this fuck at the Walmart

He looked like he saw a ghost And I'm like I'm like I'm like bitch come fuck with me And I'm like so I'm like I like try to be like a counselor or some shit I'm like bro if you if you're if you got burned Or if something happened Why don't you just call me and talk to me I'll help you get out of the hole

Just pay me an extra this or whatever on top of that Bro I gave this motherfucker some more This motherfucker just disappeared on my ass Disappeared I've never seen him again Oh he he smoked it all up Yeah yeah he was gone he was out in the fucking wilderness Somewhere with that shit Well, how much did you make off of them versus how much did you lose off of them?

If you made a profit, then. Yeah, I was killing. It was nothing. I was killing it. I was pissed off when he did that to me because I just, I don't know. I don't know why I got so pissed off. I remember I was doing like karaoke with some strippers. The karaoke place is still here today. It's off Lamar. So there's a strip club called Yellow Rose here.

Of course. And there's a plaza. So if you're coming from. like the north on north lamar there's a plaza where the wall i think it's a wall greens that's right there there's a plaza in there and there's an asian place it's a karaoke joint it's like b y o b and you run out a room and do karaoke so i was in there with a bunch of fucking like asian and you know white strippers and shit and i'm i remember i'm on the phone they're all singing fucked up and i'm on the phone i'm like blowing this fool up i'm like this motherfucker this fool

like playing with my fucking money i was pissed dude but yeah i never got it back i mean i've seen some crazy shit on that clear dog like i went out to the country like this how paranoid they were a childhood friend introduced me to this biker cat i go in the house he's got all these peckerwood white boys around him i'm like i and and what's crazy is is that game like there were certain cats that didn't want to fuck with me because they said i acted black right that's interesting yeah uh they must have thought you were one of them yeah they didn't they didn't they didn't but your accent is different like it's it's sounds you have a country accent to me, but to these bumpkins down here, you probably don't

sound like you're from Texas. No, yeah. And a- I love shitting on Texas. Anyways, go ahead. So this motherfucker, so he's got these white boys around them. They're all fucking got their shirt-offs and shit, fucking like some real country shit. And I remember he's got a fireplace going in the middle of the fucking summer. And I'm like, is this motherfucker really got the fireplace on? So as soon as I sat down, He's got a Sharpie and a piece of paper. And he writes, do not speak out loud and slides it to me. And I'm looking.

And then he hands me a piece of paper, gives me a Sharpie, and goes like this. And I was like, so what, like, what are you trying to buy? Because my homie introduced me to him.

So I wasn't bringing any work with me, but he was like making an interest, because he wanted to start fucking with me. But like on that shit that I just told you about how dudes don't fuck with me. So my homie, my homie's little. brother that's in the joint right now that's facing another case. There's a town outside of Dallas.

It's called like Greenville or some shit. Like, it's work pumping out that motherfucker. But he introduced me to some white dudes up there. And they were like some fucking family shit, some prison family. And so I go to meet them. And like they keep changing spots and stuff like that. And I'm like, I'm just, my plug told me he's like, hey, bro, shit's going to be dead for like a week.

So I'm like, I'm just trying to like pick some extra shit up. And the price was decent. So we like changed the spot like three different houses. And I'm, so I'm telling my home. I'm like, bro, these fools trying to fucking jack me. Now my, this dude's black. So he's all like, nah, these fools are cool. They're cool white boys.

So finally we go to a hotel, which I do not do shit like that. So I'm really like going some renegade shit right now. So we go in this hotel as these Peckerwood white boys. And they got some females with them. One of them, he's fucking massive. he's joked as fuck, you know, we're talking, and he's all like, dude, right in front of my homeboy, he's like, you talk like a fucking toad.

And I was like, what? So you could tell these cats were from the joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talking about to toes. And he's all like, man, I don't want to fucking deal with nobody like, you know, race trading motherfucker like you. And I'm like, the fuck. Like, we're here to do a fucking kilo deal.

You know, you're over here fucking awesome goddamn fucking, you know. Prison Nazi shit. like talking, yeah, and he's like, you know who the fuck I am? And I was like, bro, I don't give, like, like, when it comes to like we're doing business, like I'm like trying to be chill, like I'm not here to play this big tick contest. So then I just find outnumbered. I was just like, bro, and I'm outnumbered. I'm here by myself.

I have no weapon. I'm in the country where you can come up missing. Like any city, I'll go in any city. Y' why I ain't saying I'm not scared, but I'll go in any city. But let me tell you something. When you go to the country, motherfucker, you'll come up missing out in that motherfucker. them why them motherfuckers will you will be fucked off and not found type shit like so i'm like bro i was like honestly i don't get fuck who you are i was like i don't know if you don't know who i am but i can

tell you this much and he's like we'll take your shit and i was all like well you can take my shit i'm not saying that you won't but i can tell you this much i'm not somebody that if uh i don't make it back home tonight i'm not somebody that people ain't going come looking for so i suggest you let me leave here. If you don't want to do a deal because of how I talked, then we ain't got to do that deal, but I can tell you this much, if you think y'all are going to pull some fucking gangster shit, like, you're fucking with the wrong cat, bro, because I'm not somebody that that people aren't going to forget about. Trust that. There's a lot of people depending on me, bro, you know, and I know that my plug, you know, I'm not saying they would have did anything,

but they definitely weren't going to, like, leave that alone. You know, you know what it is, bro. You make certain connections like you don't like there was no way i was walking away from that situation until i went to jail right i'm not saying like i was making like i was moving but once you kind of go to a certain error with people there ain't no you just stop fucking around yeah like you know you got to jail like it is what it is i can't just say hey i don't want to fuck around no more right you know too much yeah i've you know it's tricky because yeah in a place like mexico it's a lot more cut and dry because you can just get away with murder. Yeah.

So like, hey, there's a lot less fucking around probably. Because if you steal this from me and I go missing, like, you know what it is. We can, they'll locate you and they'll kill everybody. Yeah. But here it's like, are you bluffing? Like, you can get, in the country, yeah, you could dump my body. But also, you know, you might be caught. Yeah, exactly.

Like we have a justice system here. So it's a tough, yeah, that, yeah, it's a gray area. and the dope game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's usually not worth it. No. So what ended up happening? They let me leave.

I mean, I got up and walked towards the door anyways, because I'm not going to sit here and let you berate me like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? So they just didn't do the deal? No, they didn't do the deal. They didn't want to do the deal with me. And I bounced and fucking, then my homeboy, fucking he came and he jumped in the car.

And I was like, I was like, who the fuck are these people, bro? I'm like, you bring me to these motherfuckers? Like, I was like, bro, you know that I don't fuck with white boys like that. Like, you know that I, like, they don't like, they don't like me dog i'm not one of them they don't fuck with me i was like why would you he's he's like bro he's like they fuck with me i was like because you're black that's the difference dog that that's the thing like dude like i've met real racist white people like i haven't met too many true blue racist white people but i have met a few and they were on the streets like i met like

one in prison but you kind of expected there but when you meet them on the streets like they dislike white boys like me more than they dislike black people because to them I'm a race trader like oh you acting like them your disrespect like they that's fascinating yeah they don't like dude like me we we were in a country ass town going to hugh well we were outside of houston and we were just exploring like i just like to explore shit we went in this little ass town called viter texas they used to be like the most racist town in texas you can look it up i heard they had like a sign up back in the game they said don't get caught here after dark or something. some shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, I remember we pulled up to a gas station on the backroads and Viter. We accidentally went there. This before, like, GPS, like, you know, I think Tom Toms might have been out. And we stopped at the gas station to get something to drink. And I walked in and the way them white people looked at me and where we were at, I turned around and walked back out. I had my homeboy in a car.

He was black. And he was like, whoa, what's up? You ain't, because we used to, like, drink like the Arizona iced teas all the time. He's like, what's up with the Arizona? I'm like, shit. Fuck that Arizona. We getting up out of here. Yeah.

I can't believe they sell Arizona in a town like that. Yeah, I'm like, nah, let's get the fuck about here. No hot Cheetos or Arizona. Hs T's sold here. That's wild, man. Yeah, you don't think about that when you're insulated in like a bubble like Austin. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like how redneck and country these little pockets in Texas are and in the South. And cool and white boys like us, fly white boys like us or whatever. Like, you know, they don't like us, dog. now so when you did take a fall you said you went on the run after you got arrested i won't make you rehash the store basically you were at a you got in a teaboned yeah yeah yeah and the fucking the cops found a half a zip of coke yeah in that in that construction dumpster i told you about yeah yeah yeah yeah a bullshit bro just crazy bad luck yeah after all the work you moved all the federal chances you took now you got to stay

case. You say you bonded out and then you went on the run? Dude, so I was still on parole, dog. So I bonded out immediately. Actually, I'm lying to you. I didn't even bond out. My lawyer came and signed me out because they didn't take me to the hospital. So my lawyer came and got me out. They

pulled me out. He took me to the hospital. I had a concussion. And then he was like, if you fucking run, it's on me, you know, don't run or whatever. I was like, I'm not fucking going nowhere. So I was out for maybe two weeks and my parole officer called me. And I pick up the phone. I'm like,

what's up? He's like, hey, you need to come and report tomorrow by 12. And I was like, am I going to jail? Because they put a blue warrant out for me. He's like, yeah. And I was like, all right. He's like, don't make me look bad. I wasn't supposed to tell you that. But I know you're cool.

I ain't going to do it. You know, I'm going to let you know what's up so you can handle shit. And I was like, bad, I'll be in. So I went and I turn myself in. So in Texas, when you get a blue warrant, you can't bond out. So, man, I'm in jail for seven months fighting this case. I'm hiring and firing lawyers. Like, I'm changing socks.

dog. You got money now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm fucking, I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean, I had like five lawyers at a time working on my case. Like these, that's a bad thing. Like people, it's a good lawyer. There ain't no good lawyer.

He's a deal getter. He ain't going to get you free. Like, I'm trying to get free. They found this dope in a construction dumpster. Yeah. A little kid said he seen me toss it. They found, like, motherfucker, I ain't touched that shit. I never admitted to it.

Nothing. So, lo and behold, a fucking dude comes in on a parochie. You wouldn't even think it. A fucking, he was an A-B-T-Cat. Aaron Brotherhood of Texas. Yeah. We're chopping it up playing spades. And he tells me, I've been in the county like almost six months now.

He's like, you know you can request a parole hearing, right? And I said, what do you mean? He goes, you can petition the parole board to have a parole hearing. And if they, because the case was so shaky, he's like, if they agree to hear you and they think that you're not guilty, you can fucking get out. They'll reinstate your parole and you can bomb back out. And he goes,

and all the evidence has to be presented in the thing. So you know how jail is. Motherfuckers just be lying. So I'm like, huh, this motherfucker's on to something. So I go, we get done playing. I go get on the phone. I have my mom call one of my lawyers, the cool one.

He's actually passed away now, Scott Stevens. He was a good dude, man. He was a good one, bro. he was a good one man yeah it hurt me that he passed away he he was honestly trying to fucking get me out of jail dog like he he knew like even though i was guilty he knew that they didn't have the evidence and that was his thing like it don't matter if you're guilty if they can't prove it they shouldn't do dirty shit to fucking get you in jail so she called him and he answered he's like yeah if we can get the parole board to hear his case we could have a parole hearing so my people

start petitioning the parole board. I got homies, calling him everything. They agree to hear my case. So I hire like one of the best parole lawyers. He's probably still the best parole lawyer right now. This fool named Gary, Gary Cohen here out of Austin. Fly O.G. White dude. So we have a parole hearing. All the cops come. The kid comes. Everybody comes. So, uh, I don't know why I said it, but they couldn't bring the kid back there until he had to testify because it was in the jail. We weren't in a courtroom. We just went into like this little room. So there was three parole people from Austin and then my parole officer, then my criminal lawyer,

then my parole lawyer, and they're coming in. So they put me in a separation tank for some reason. I can't remember why. And then my lawyer goes, what do you want us to ask? Oh, I wasn't allowed to be in there when he testified or something for some reason. So they go, what do you want us to ask him? And I said, I don't know why I said this. I go, ask them what I look like. So when they go in there, they weren't even in there. I don't even think 10 minutes. All of a sudden, they come back and they let me out.

I never see the kid. The kid never sees me. We go in the room. My parole lawyer's grinning ear to ear. My fucking parole officers looking stupid as fuck. My lawyer's smiling. I leaned over next to him. And I go, what the fuck is going on?

He goes, Gary asked him, what do you look like? And I go, what do you say? He goes, he said, you were black. Oh. I said, what? And he goes, yeah. I said, so what's that mean? He goes, they fucked up.

They didn't have no field tests, no pictures, no nothing of the drugs, not a goddamn thing. So the three parole panel ladies, as soon as they come back in, they start fucking grilling my PO. They go, they got, you got this man in jail for seven fucking, not cussing, but you got him in here for seven months on this boo, boodoo-da-da-going in. and then the lady was like, so I remember it was a Wednesday. And she goes, you'll be reinstated. You'll be out on the streets on Monday. But I think it's like a five or panel and you need three people to get you out. So I was like, I was like, how sure that are you?

She goes, put it this way. And she did say these exact words. She like lean forward on the desk. She goes, I'm the head bitch in charge. And what I say goes. So when I vote, everybody votes my way. She goes, you'll be out. It'll take three business.

days for you to get out. She goes, today's Wednesday. We're putting it in right now. She goes, Thursday, Friday, Monday, this violation will be uplifted. And she goes, and if you can fucking bond back out on the bond you were on, you're on the streets and you can fight this case from the street. She goes, you shouldn't even be in fucking jail. This is crazy. And she called, she was like, this fucking hick-ass town. And they walked out. And I remember I looked at my parole officer and Monday morning, it was like 7.38 in the morning. They were like, Grisheimer, legal visit. I'll pop off the bunk, brush my teeth

real quick, fucking go down to the visit. He pans me my reinstation papers. And I was like, I appreciate it, bro. He's like, don't thank me. I didn't do it. And I just looked at him. I was like, what you're so bitter for, bro? I was like, I'm like, you know, like... So you're out, but they didn't drop the charges. No, they didn't drop the charges. I fought

the case. And they wind up, so we go, we go to start doing jury trial. So, when we go to start to go in to pick the jury, the judge pulls me, the DA, and my lawyer into the judge's chambers. And she was like, I'm not trying, we're not taking this to trial. We need to come to a deal right now. And she's like-

Is it why? Because it was such a shit case? Yeah, and the kid said I was black. Right. And he was literally their only piece of evidence. Yeah, there were only evidence. And then the DA, he's like going back and forth with her. And she's like, no, we need to come to a deal right now.

you guys figure it out and she's like, you know, and I'm looking, I'm not saying nothing. So we step out and they put me in this room and my lawyer's gone for a minute and he comes back, he goes, all right, and he's all smiling. He's like, uh, they agreed to probation. I was like, probation. I was like, bro, the fucking kid is saying I'm fucking black.

He's like, Tim. He's like, look, bro, if you take the case, you're going to, if you take it to try, because you're going to prison. And I was like, how? I was like, bro, they don't got no field tests. you've seen all the evidence in the parole here and he goes, Tim, they're going to bring up your background. He goes, bro, we're going back and forth. And he's just like, he kind of like raised his

voice at me. He goes, bro, the dope is yours. He's like, this is a fucking win. He's like, it's Bell County dog. They're not going to let you off. You think you're going to walk the fuck out of here? He's like, no, bro. He's like, this is a win. And you would just plead guilty to like possession? I was going to plead guilty to possession over four or less than 200. And then I was going to get probation. Yeah. And, uh... And it would just run concurrent because you were already on probation.

Yeah, well, I wind up, I wanted to, so I was on that probation. I discharged parole. I got an unsuccessful discharge, so, like, I never got a certificate. But I was still on that other probation, which hadn't ended yet. So they were just going to run them concurrent. So he was like, I'll get him to put a thing. It was 10 years, too. I was like, bro, 10 years?

He's like, I'll get him to put a thing to where if you don't violate in three years, we'll bring, they can get you. you taken off or some dumb ass shit like that. So they got it put in the paperwork that if I did three years, no violations. And it seems like with a half an ounce, you could have just said, I mean, even if they had more evidence, it seems like you could have just pled out in drug court. I mean, look, I don't know, you know, like a half an ounce, you could just say, I'm a user. Yeah.

But my whole thing was I was saying it wasn't mine. Right. And so I wind up signing for the probation. And this is why I wind up going on to run. This is how fucked up the system is. So my son, I'm on child support for my son. So when I'm in the county for those seven months, they're still charge of be child support, which is illegal, right?

They're supposed to stop payments when you're in the county. So when I come out, I'm in default or whatever they call it, right? So they bring me to, they have sheriff come to my house and tell me I got to go to child support court up here in fucking, uh, Williamson County. So I'm like Georgetown. So I'm like, all right. So, uh, I don't even know I'm in default because as soon as I come home, I start making payments. So they're like, oh, you owe us, dude, I think it was like $3,500 or some shit. It wasn't even nothing because it's like you miss the payments and they charge a 10 or 15% interest.

So I was like, you know, I was in jail this whole time. because they were like threatening to lock me up i'm like you're gonna lock me up i was like i just got out of fucking jail like i was like i was in jail this whole fucking time like you know so my lawyer sent paperwork to him and and uh everything else and uh i was like i didn't even know i was behind you guys didn't say nothing to me like because i well i had been out so anyways uh the system was so backwards back then so what i had to do was if you sign an agreement to pay this this money every month because i could have gave them the 3,500 right than and there, but I didn't want to because I'm like, fuck you hoes.

Like, I just hate the system, dog. I ain't lying to you. Like, I ain't, it's just, like, even me paying child support now, I fucking hate giving the people my money. Like, I just hate it, dog. And, uh, because I don't even get to see my, my son. Like, my son don't even want anything to do with me because of me being in prison all this time.

He don't fuck with me, bro. So, like, it's like, I'm paying for a kid who fucking hates me. Right. And, uh, which doesn't matter. But it's just the fact that they charged me when I was in jail. and you charge me interest. So you, like, you fucked me all the way. It's different if you say, well, just pay this because this is your son,

then I can say bet, but you put an interest on money that I couldn't even pay. So it's like, to me, I'm just, like, fucked up about it. So I'm like, okay, I'll agree to pay $750 a month until we catch up on the $3,500, on top of my regular payment. So how you had to pay child support back, then this is how Alice backwards the shit is. You had to go down to, like, Western Union or something, have them on the phone, send them the money, through Western Union, they had to fax a paperwork.

You had to go to like office depot or some shit. Sign some paperwork. Fax it back to them. And then they signed it. And that's how the payment happened. So the lady, you're supposed to send the payment to San Antonio. She has me send it to Austin. And I'm like, are you sure?

I was like, because the payment says it's supposed to go to San Antonio. Long story short, six weeks go by. A sheriff comes to my house. Because when you agree to pay, like if you owe back child support, when you agree to pay a certain time, every month. If you don't, if you don't meet that agreement, then they'll put you in jail. So he comes to my house and knocks on my door. I'm like, what the fuck? So I open up the door. He's like, hey, Tim. And I'm like, what's up? He's like, there's a warrant for your arrest.

I said, for what? And he's like, child support. I said, what the fuck? I was like, I pay my child support. He's like, I'm not going to take you to jail. He's like, just call it in and figure out what the fuck is up. I'm like, all right, bet. So I call them, but I got all the facts paperwork where they signed for the payment. So the lady. said, bro, she had you send it to the wrong thing. So she's like, you need to call Western Union to see if you can get that money back. The whole time Western Union's sitting on my money never calls me and tells me they got the fucking bread. So I call them the money still down there. I go get the money. I call back to

the Georgetown courthouse, Williamson County. And I'm like, hey, how can we get this warrant resolved? Because I'm on paper now. But what I don't know is that in the state of Texas, they can't violate your parole or your probation over a civil case. I don't know this at the time. So she goes, look, come down here. Since she fucked up and signed all that stuff, you didn't do anything wrong. Come down here to the courthouse. We're not going to incarcerate you.

She's like, come down here and give us that money. We'll drop the warrant. It'll take three business days for it to go away. I'm like, all right, bet. I jump in the slab, the caprice I told you about. I'm pumping it down to Williamson County. I get a call. Don't know the number.

I pick it up. Hello? It's a probation officer. Mr. Hernandez, fucking piece of strait. trash. This motherfucker calls me. Timothy. I'm like, yeah, what's up? Yeah, you got a warrant for your arrest. So I tell him the whole

story I tell you, right? He's like, I was like, I'm going on my way to go pay it right now. It'll be up in three days. I don't matter. I already talked to the DA. You violated probation. We already talked to the DA. They're offering you 10 years. Instead of me like staying calm and calling a lawyer,

I immediately freak the fuck out. And I'm like, so you're going to put me in prison for 10 years over a child support payment that I didn't fucking miss. I'm like, I'm already on child support. I'm already on probation for a fucking case, even though I'm guilty for you had no fucking evidence. You had nothing. You didn't even have a field test.

You didn't have nothing. You have a kid that says I'm black. So instead of me staying calm and calling the lawyer, I immediately freak the fuck out. I fucking turn my car around, call my homeboy. He comes and buys the fucking slab. I call one of my childhood friends who's down here in Austin right now he runs four restaurants

straight clean cut motherfucker I call him and I said hey bro I need you to buy me a fucking plane ticket and he's like where you disappear into and I was like out of the state I know he's not going to tell nobody I know he's a G like that

he might be one of those clean cut white dudes but he's a G and I'm like I'm like bro I'm everything in my house you can have everything just flat screens come get it I'm selling my car and I'm disappearing. He's like,

bet he got me a one-way playing ticket and I fucking disappeared that day. And I was on a run for like over two years. Wow. Something like that. Where at? In Ohio. And were you making moves up there? Oh, yeah.

But I jumped in your game, though. That's the weed. The weed, because it goes for so high up there. Of course. It goes for crazy high up there. Crazy guy. And I can get it for fucking dirt cheap.

I mean, Trow was like $3,600. a brick 4,200 a brick, 38. And you're getting it from Cali? Yeah, I was getting it from, well, I guess so. I was getting it from the same people. Right. So, yeah, wherever they were getting it from. So fucking, dude, I just, yeah, I just switched the game up and fucking. You were killing it? Dude, I was murder in the game.

Talk numbers. What kind of shit were you moving? Crazy, dog. We were dumping like a thousand a week. Wow. Thousand joints? Yeah, because all my family's up there. So I linked up with my uncle. And I'm all like, what moves up here? Because I'm on the run. So my whole thing is, is like, I'm trying to get as much money as possible. So I'm like, what moves up here?

And he's like, I can move the bud. I was like, what's it go for? I heard it. I already heard that it went for hire. You know what I'm saying? So he's like 36, 38 all day long. I called dude. I'm like, what can I get him for?

And he was all like, bro, I give him to you for a stack. Wow. Bro, I just fucking told my uncle. I said, look, I was like, how much money are you trying to make middleman in this shit? and I was like, I was like, bro, I was like, I'll give him to you for 25. He's like, I'm going to sell him for 36. I was like, no, don't. If I say, if I give him to you for 25, just let him go for like 32.

Yeah. 3,000, 332. Yeah, so they'll get gone, fool. Like, I ain't trying to be playing no games. Like, you already know my situation. Bro, it just took off. Wow. Like, we started fucking, we started making moves like a motherfucker.

And they would drop the butt off. Yeah. The plugs would drive it all the way from AZ. Yeah. What kind of weed was this? Was this outdoor, good outdoor? I think some of it was good outdoor. Some of it for sure was indoor.

I'm not really like a thousand a pee? Yeah. Some of it was good. It might have all been outdoor. I don't know. I'm not really like... But this is not like Mexican swag. No, this is straight up dro.

Bro. The packages were fucking vacuum sealed. The fluffy West Coast joints. Yeah. They had the name. written on it when it was packaged, like the name, Orange Cush, uh, fucking green crack, uh, AK-47 with the date when it was packed up. That's literally the exact kind of butt I moved. And people on the West Coast,

or the East Coast and in the Midwest, like Ohio, to them it was almost like it was indoor. Yeah. Like it was, it was really good weed. Yeah, it was, it was fucking fired. But it moved at that ticket. Yeah, hell yeah, it fucking moved, bro. It, that shit took the fuck off dude it was fucking gone so your uncle was the one getting it off yeah he was middle yeah he had all the yeah he had everything and he wasn't gonna let me meet nobody so it was all him making everything so you could make a hundred you're giving it to him for 25 you could make like 150,000 every drop easy oh love that easy love that it was fucking turning and burning dude it was it was and I was

trying to go like even bigger with it and he was just like he's like what are you doing he's I was like, bro, see if they'll do this, see if they'll do that. Because you know, like, you know, your plug is always going to kind of, like, push you to do a little more if you can. Like, if you're doing this, what can you do? So he's all like, he's like, no, man, he's like, you're trying to go too hard with it, you know, and he like did construction and shit. So he's all like, you know, he had his own little company and stuff like that.

And we worked together. So I would go work with them. And he's like, you're trying to go too hard with it. Like, what are you doing? And I was like, bro, like, it's good right now. Like, we just get it while it's good. it ain't always going to be good. Like, there's going to be times.

And I was like, and I ain't even trying to, like, bro, like, the run, like, it, like, it fucked with me mentally. Like, it caused me a lot of health problems and shit. Like, I wound up having a couple stomach surgeries from it. I think that's what it came from. Just from stress. Stress. Yeah, bro, because every time you see the police, you fucking, you get shook.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you just get shook. And, um. So you were trying to push him to move like, what? 2000? Whatever. Whatever we could. I knew he could do more.

I knew, I just knew he could do more because the people he was fucking with. I knew it. Like, if it was moving that good, that good, like, no hiccups. Like, there wasn't a hiccup. How would the plug, the cartel, how would they drop off? Do they come in semi-trucks? I don't know what they did.

They just had a spot to where you pick it up. Yeah, they had a spot to where I picked it up, yeah. Because when I went back up to Cali this time, I mean, Cali, when I went back to Ohio this time, there was a gang of Mexicans up there. There was a gang of Mexicans up there now. Yeah. And they own shit. They own shit.

They own restaurants. They own strip clubs. They own, dude, they had spots. I don't know if it's still like this because it's been so long. They had a spot I went in. You could buy food. And then they would have bitches come from the back and fucking G-strings and shit that would sit with you and dance with you. They'd probably sell you some sex.

I don't know. I was just like, okay. Like, you know, I was like this. Like, they ain't like. No, they figured out how lucrative Ohio is. Oh, yeah. They're making, they're fucking, bro, they got paper. They figured it out.

Yeah, they're not like, they're not like these Mexicans in Texas doing construction and shit, like, not to be fucked up. I'm not saying it like that, but they're up their own and shit. They're making, they're making shit happen for real. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're taking over here too.

They got their grocery stores. They moved together, bro. That's like my girl's Mexican. My daughter's half Mexican. Like, that's one of the reasons why I fuck with Hispanics so much because their family oriented a lot of them and stuff. And I'm very big on that, bro. I'm very big on.

on like loyalty like a motherfucker so like you know yeah that for sure and you didn't think about like so you're making a lot of money again so the money's the money's pouring in yeah and you're like me you save you just squirrel you stashed away did you think about calling your lawyer like was your lawyer calling you did they have your new number bro i didn't talk to anybody i ghosted every single motherfucker on the planet i dropped off the face of the fucking earth i did my homeboy that bought me the ticket Like him, I ghosted him. Fucking, I knew he wouldn't tell on me, but I told him when he took me to the airport,

I was like, hey, this is goodbye until I get caught up. And he was all like, he's like, bet, bro. And I was like, please don't tell nobody shit. He's like, you know, I'm not going to tell nobody nothing. I ghosted everybody. I dropped that phone. The only person that I talked to, bro, was my mom. Yeah.

That was it. Because I know my mom ain't going to fucking sell me out for nobody. So you basically, you've got. you've got a 10-year probation from what amounts to a possession charge. Not even a distribution charge for a half an ounce of cocaine. Because of all of this bureaucratic mix-up with your child support, that is what is going to trigger this probation violation that's going to get you all this time.

That's going to get me back in prison. That's fucking bananas. That's mind-blowing. Dude, so when they pull me over, I don't know what that I got yoked up by Homeland Security I don't know what it was like Obama was like he was like pressing the East Coast I mean the Midwest like stupid hard bro so like I was like they were they do checkpoints I don't know if they still do

but like they would do like these DUI checkpoints in the middle of the day up there so I'm always on the internet looking for these checkpoints because I'm making moves and I'm on the run so I'm like okay I'm looking and then um I'm always watching shit, but I'm always keeping up with news and what's going on, drug news, shit like that. So, like, I see, like, in Ohio and in Michigan,

they're, like, pulling motherfuckers over, like, oh, they caught, because, like, at this time, this is, like, that whole percocet epidemic where motherfuckers are going to Florida and picking up fucking... The opioid epidemic. Yeah, yeah, that's at this time. Dude, I had a homie up there. He never even got caught. He got rich and got the fuck out the way.

That motherfucker had a school bus painted purple with some goddamn red evangelist church and he had fucking like older middle age white people going to Florida getting scripts coming back with that shit it's just loaded with pills. Bro, he was killed. The pill games fucking retort was stupid retortals. I never dabbled in the game or whatever,

but it was like, it was crazy money. Yeah, they were fucking killing that goddamn shit. They're fucking, uh, the perk 30s or all that old. Like, I don't know. That ain't ever been my thing, but like, yeah, he was slaughterhouse in that shit.

And so I get yoked over by Homeland Security. What's crazy is I'm fucking with this stripper broad from Dayton. So she would come to Columbus because she had family there. And we'd meet at this hotel. It was like off the highway. And there was a bunch of like high-end hotels right there. So we meet at the hotel. So one day we go to the gas station.

And I lied to you like this is the first nice car that I ever bought. I had an infinity. G37S, two-door, like a blue, blue-gray, lowered, uh, fucking, uh, cream vanilla seats live as fuck. And, um, so we, we, we pull up to the gas station. We both get gashes. She's in her car. I'm in mine. And there's a white dude and a fucking, uh, underarmor fucking track suit in like a Ford escape or some shit, or the SUVs, the Ford Escape or some shit, like the smaller SUVs. And it's snowing outside. So me and her going to gas station, I'll buy a pack of Rillows.

I take a couple out. I give her the rest. And we give each other a kiss goodbye and stuff like that. And I see this white boy staring at me. He's standing outside his SUV looking at me. So I peel off. So a few minutes later, she calls me. And she was like, say, bro.

And I'm like, what's up? She's like, man, you remember the white boy that was, you said, what the fuck's this white boy looking at? And I'm like, yeah, she's all like, but at this time I'm like fly with it. I'm fucking white gold, goddamn fucking Stewie from Family Guy Chain. I'm white gold watch with diamonds, like diamond earrings. When that game, Angry Birds came out on the phone.

I had all these Angry Bird medallions. Keep it a low pro. Yeah, I'm not keeping a low pro. I'm like balls the wall right now. I didn't give a fuck. I was, dude, I'm like, fucking it is what it is, dog. Like I can show you videos of me. It's fucking crazy.

So she's like, he came up to me and asked me who you were. I was like, what? She goes, yeah, she goes, who is that? Who, he looks familiar. And she was like, he does music. Because I was fucking around with music at the time. So, uh, he's like, oh, for real? She's like, yeah. She's like, I don't think we should go back to that area anymore. And they were doing a bunch of like stops in that area. So we stayed away from that area for, man, I don't even think it was a month.

And then when she came down to see her family, she's like, you want to meet up, what hotel you want to meet up at? And I was like, oh, let's meet up in the same spot. because it's like a halfway point for her to jump on that part of the highway and go to Dayton. She's like, I don't think we should go there, baby, did it. I was like, man, we're all good. So I fucking go to get the hotel room and a fucking Columbus PD jumps behind me by the hotel room. Like he's sitting in the parking lot. He sees me and he jumps behind me.

So the hotel room's like off this like back road and it's like three of these nice hotels on the highway. But you have to take like an off road to get to them. So there's like a dip in the road with the bump. and I had got, so the G37S, like the ass kind of sat up like that, so I had it leveled out, so it was low. So I swerve around the bump. He does the same thing with me. I'm like, what the fuck?

So I pull up in the hotel, but I knew at this time from like looking shit up that cops aren't supposed to be allowed to go to hotels and just ask who's staying there. Like, they weren't supposed to be able to do that. So I'm sitting in my car and he just like parks behind me. And then he reaches his hand out. he grabs his light and it's snowing. He, like, flashes it on my car.

So I fucking jump out and I'm like, I'm like, what's up? What, what's up? And he just pulls off. So I'm like, maybe he thought I was somebody else. So I tell him, like, hey, I'm over here. This is the room. Well, for some reason, dude, I couldn't go to sleep.

I'm fucking annoyed as a motherfucker. I'm getting up. I'm looking out the window. There's a cop over at this other hotel facing our hotel. And I'm like, they're fucking watching me. And she's all like, what are they watching you for? You ain't doing enough. Like, you're not doing nothing.

nothing. So I was sick. I was throwing up all the time, bro. And I was going to the hospital and they thought that I was like on some type of opioids. And I'm like, bro, test my system. I'm not on no drugs. So that Thursday, I think this was like a Monday or Tuesday. That Thursday, I was supposed to go to the Ohio cancer research because they thought I had stomach cancer. So I got, I'm just throwing up all the time. Like for like multiple weeks out of the month, like two or three weeks, I could take like one bite of food and I couldn't eat nothing else. I had lost a lot of weight when I would try to brush my teeth, I would throw up. And then like maybe like one week or a couple days out of the month, for some reason I would be able to gorge on food. So those days that I wouldn't like lose my appetite and I could

eat, I will try to eat as much as possible. And when they gave me these pills, the pills that they give to cancer patients, those actually helped me be able to start eating. But I didn't know what what's wrong with me. So the next morning we get up, and we had like, I don't know, like a gram, a gram and a half. I didn't have like no dirt on me and nothing like that. And I was all like, you want to go and blow that real quick? And she's like, yeah.

Some weed. Yeah, some bud, yeah. So we go to the gas station. I pick up a mini rillo and give it to her. Come out the same gas station that the white dude was at in the track suit. So we pull up to the light. I'm sitting there looking around. It's a four-way stop in the highways right here.

to the left. So I cut, boom, I get on the access, I mean on the ramps start heading towards the highway. I'm driving and she's in the bag breaking up the bud and I'm looking over my shoulder, looking in the rear view, looking over my shoulder going like this. And as soon as I like come back up, I like see something. I put my head and I look back up. Bro, it's that fucking Ford Escape, blacked out, fucking two Columbus PD, two fucking sheriffs. Because I know their car because they're like midnight blue and they're the K-9 units because they got the jet black fucking fucking fucking state highway patrol. I'm like, what the fuck? She's like what? I was like, there's like, there's like fucking six laws back there, bro. She's like, they ain't coming for you.

I was like, that's that fucking Ford Escape. So I fucking put that bitch in sport mode and fucking punch it on the highway. Start cutting it in out of traffic. I'm trying to get to the next exit. And she's like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm trying to get to the next exit. I was like, I'm about to jump out this motherfucking car. And she's like, what are you scared for? all we got is a blunt. And I was like, bitch, I'm on the motherfucking run.

I swear you break it. It's where you break it to her. She's like, I knew you were a motherfucker. So dude, they fucking, that, the,

the, the, the canine unit fucking dumps in behind me, starts hitting the fucking the lights. I pull over. This is what's weird,

bro. Like, I don't know if somebody had told, somebody had to tell on me. Because as soon as he walks up to my car, I was going to, like, try to lie to him

and give him a fake name. Did you have a fake ID? No, I didn't have no fake. I was trying to get one, but like every one that I came across, I was like, this ain't gonna pass. Mexicans, bro. You should have talked to more of Mexicans. I know, I know.

And he comes up to the passenger side. So I was like, hey, how you doing, buddy? He's like, what's up, Tim? I was like, what the fuck? My heart drops. He's like, man, shut the car off. And I'm like, all right. So the walls pull up.

The dude gets out in the fucking track suit. And he's like, man, get out. Come talk to me. I'm like, all. We go in and we go when we get in his. his car, he puts me in the passenger seat, and he fucking, like, puts my fucking hand up to, like, my finger up to the scanner, and it scans my fucking thumb and my fucking face pops up. And I was like, what the fuck?

I was like, who are you? He's like, I'm with Homeland Security. And I'm like, what do you, like, what do you want with me? So he starts telling me, I know you're making moves, but he's not getting me no details. And I'm all like, I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. I do music dog. he's all like so he has another phone he's like bro i'll let you leave right now and you just take this phone he's like and give me 10 bricks of you know i need this and he's trying to get me to

and i'm like i'm like bro i don't even fuck around like that he's trying to get you to work yeah he's trying to get me to work and he was all that fast he goes i can get this bro think about that just process that viewers listeners at home you tell me the government isn't involved in drug trafficking yeah they completely are they didn't even they didn't even they didn't even pretend to want to arrest you. No. Just get working. Handing me a burner phone and then he's all like, man, you got that nice car. You got that fine-ass white girl right there.

And he's like, bro, you're from Texas. You ain't come out. This was his exact words. I'll never forget it to this day. He goes, you ain't come out the sandbox with these motherfuckers. He's like, I can get this warrant. I can get all this shit squash right now. Set up, set me somebody up.

We'll get the judge to sign off on everything. So it's legit before you do it. And he's like, and then you can fucking bounce out of here and go back home, a free man. And I looked at him and I was just like, I hesitated to answer him because I was thinking, well, he doesn't know what I'm pumping because he didn't, when he said, get me 10 bricks, he didn't say nothing about no bud. He said get him some brown or some white. And I didn't fuck with that shit.

I didn't even fuck with anybody who fucked with that shit. So I'm like, okay, so whoever's giving him info is giving him wrong shit. Were you dealing with anybody besides your uncle? No. That's what it's so weird. That's even still to this day, I'm captivated by how this even happened. I've even questioned. I, I don't like- Maybe some strippers, because weren't you going to these Mexican joints? I was still, I was going even in the regular strip clubs, but I never told anybody anything like I was, dude, nobody even called me my real name. Everybody called me Frank, because I went by, because I was doing rap music. So nobody even knew me as Tim. Nobody knew my name. I questioned my uncle when I, I, I questioned my uncle when I, I, I went by, because I was doing rap music. I was doing rap music. So nobody even knew my name. I, I question my uncle when I, I, I, I questioned my uncle, I I had got brought back. And I asked him, I was like, bro, did you, like, what, what's up, fool? Because this whole situation didn't make any sense. And it still doesn't.

To this day, I don't understand how it happened. It could have been, you know, they have, they have informants. Like, at that time, Obama was doing a lot of deportations. That's probably what the Homeland Security was about. So, you know, they know these Mexican spots. They know everybody in there is illegal, basically. So they probably have, it probably was just somebody who was. was like who got hemmed up a girl or somebody at the club and was like, hey, there's this white

guy comes in. You were flashy. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So they probably were just following you. Now, the car? Was it registered? Who was it registered to? It wasn't registered to me. It was registered to a female I knew. It's tough to know, man. But you've been in the system. Maybe they, maybe they had your biometrics and they were able to, I mean, that would be some unbelievable technology. If they could just take a picture of your eyes and then cross-reference it in the system and see if you had warrants out. And I guess by now the states, if you have a warrant in Texas, does that populate to the rest of the computers? Well, yeah, because after 9-11, 9-11 changed all that. That's how there's that whole nationwide database type shit. Yeah, I guess so. I mean,

to me, that sounds like the most logical thing. That's what the Patriot Act did, bro. If I'm not mistaken, that's exactly what the Patriot Act did. And all the different law enforcement bodies share the same info. So it was probably, I bet it was somebody in one of these places that you hung out with. Yeah. It doesn't sound like it's your uncle. No, no. I, and I've questioned them about it. I even questioned them about it since I've been home. We've talked

about it. And I've asked them questions again because, like, my mind's like a steel trap. Like, sometimes I can forget things, but, you know, like, especially when you're in prison, you remember a lot of shit. Like, shit comes back to you. And I was like, man, when I get out, I got some, I'm going to ask this motherfucker's

some questions because it didn't, you know, I just, I didn't, I, still to this day, I don't know how it happened. It was weird as fuck. Obviously, I told him no. So they fucking, you know, took me to jail. They let my, uh, that chick take my car and fucking, um, I went to extradition court. A couple days later, uh, the DA, I, I guess you can get a bond in extradition or something because he's like, I asked for no bond and I'm thinking they give you a bond.

And then, uh, so. he's all like uh texas has 14 business days to come and get them he's like if they don't come and get you 14 business days we're going to release you so the d a d a was like well i would like to extend it to 45 and he's like i'm not doing that and he's like he's already a felon and didda da da da and he was all like the judge was cool as fuck he's all like he's an ohio native he's like i'm not giving texas another day they got 14 business days to come and get him bro the fucking 14th day 12 o'clock at night It was like one in the morning

Something like that middle of the fucking night I'm like bro I'm getting released I'm thinking these motherfuckers got to come and get me You're giving your soups away Dog So they got me in a medical tank Because I'm fucking sick Right

So they come in get me And the guy's like hey come on you're getting let out He didn't know he wasn't on I'm like for real he's like yeah So I go They get me down to the front They're fucking having me sign paperwork

bring my clothes up, but I'm looking and I see two, like, they're marshals, but they're contractors. They're not like real cops. They're contracted to transport inmates. And then they're like, this is him, this is Griceheimer, and I'm like, fuck. They're like, yeah, we're here to take you back to Texas. And I was like, God damn, dog.

And so I'm thinking I'm like going to flyback or something, right? Yeah, fucking right, bro. They put us on a fucking van with like a roll cage on it. And the bench was probably like, that long. And we had, the bench could probably fit, man, it might have been as long as this table a little bit longer, like five, six cats, bro.

They had like nine of us on, they had dudes in the floor, they had dudes over there. Yeah, they get paid per head. Yeah, we were rotating butt cheeks off each other. Right, right. Like that and shit. Dude, that was the longest ride of my fucking life.

They fed us goddamn, uh, quarter pounders with cheese and sprites all the way down there. And then they were refusing to give me my medication, so I'm throwing up all the time. And then finally, like at the last leg, they give me my medicine, get brought back to Texas, fucking, I go to, like, get booked in and everything else. And then they sit me down. They call you back up to the desk, like, multiple times.

And then she's like, all right, you got a bond for $40,000. And I was like, what? She's like, you got a bond for $40,000. I was like, $40,000. She's like, yeah, I'm like, bet. Got that. I get on the phone. I'm like, can I make a phone call?

And by the way, in Texas, 40,000, does that mean 4,000? Because you just need 10%, right? 10%, 15. Sometimes they charge 20. It just depends. But my bondsman, like, she's, I don't know if she's still in the game. I know the company where it was located is not there anymore. It's another one.

I don't know if it's still theirs. I couldn't even, I don't even know if she was alive. She was an older lady then, but she loved the fuck out of me. So I called my mom. And I was like, hey, She's like, what's up? And I was like, I got a bond. She's like, you do?

I said, yeah, I said, call Rosemary. Give me a fuck about this bitch. And fucking, she came and see me, and they made, but they made my mom put up, her and my stepdad. They made them put up their house because I had ran, like I had scondered. So they were like, you can't just bond out. Like, we got to have some property. So I'm like, bet. So my mom's all like, you better not fucking run.

I'm like, dude, I'm not running. Like, I'm done. Like, I'm good. It is what it is. So I fight my. case for a little while and I'm thinking the whole time I'm going to get reinstated because I didn't like do nothing I just stopped reporting right so they're trying to get me like some type of like fucking like pro some type of rehab or some shit right and I have stomach surgery and after I

have my stomach surgery they're like they put off my court date and then I tore my ACL so then I'm in there getting that worked on so I'm showing up to court and crutches and all that shit my leg locked up. So the DA's like, yeah, we're going to give you probation. He's all like, we're going to reinstate your probation. We're going to make you go do this like rehab thing. And we're just going to say you're on drugs. He's like, you can choose it. It's going to be an outpatient thing. He's like, there's a nice one in this town called Salado. And I'm like, all right, bet. Well, you remember my, my son's mom, the stripper? So she's always fucked with like high-end tricks, like lawyers, DAs. So the lawyer that she was fucking. So, she was fucking. So, she was

fucking with. His name's Perry Cortiz. He's in the feds right now doing 25 years. And, yeah, dog, it's fucking crazy. And then I don't know what happened to him, but I know he was facing a murder for hire plot in Florida because he was trying to have this mom and daughter, like, kill the witness. So like him and some other lawyers, they were working with people from like Nigeria and China, getting into people's like other big law firms, bank accounts and getting money. I can't remember my homeboy's mom sent me the article, but he got 25 and the Fed, well, this fucking piece of shit, because he's from New Jersey.

The DA was from New Jersey, so their homies. You know, they all eat at the same spot. They all know each other. So when I'm supposed to, so when I went in there for my, after my knee shit, he had the paperwork with the rehab on there. And I was like, well, let me just sign for it now. He's like, well, let you get out of the brace and walk.

And I'm like, let me just, let's start it now. It ain't, if it's outpatient, who gives a fuck? Like, let me just do it now. And he's like, he's like, dude, I got murders and robberies, like more shit you're not important to me i'm not worried about it dude when i go when everything is said and clear a couple months later i remember that dude had told my ex he's like i'm gonna because i was over there seeing my son and he for some reason didn't like me going over to her house to see my son because he thought that we had something going on but we didn't and i remember

he texted he's like i'm gonna get that motherfucker put in prison i'm gonna get him 60 years and uh i was like what is that dude's fucking deal so she called him and i got on the phone i'm like hey bro like I'm not over here messing with her like I'm just seeing my kid dude like it ain't even nothing like that bro you're because I had known her since I was like eight years old I'm like you we got history together dog like I've known her since I've been in Texas I was like you're tripping dude and um so when I go to go to my court I text my lawyer and I said I'm going to the courthouse now and he said come to the office and when he said that I knew something was up so we we go in he's got a DVD with my YouTube music videos on it and he goes who

Who's Frizzy White? And I go, what? Frizzy White. I said, Frizzy White. And I go, you mean Frank White? Yeah, who is that? I was like, I mean, that was me. My music name, what's up? The DA's got videos of you and y'all are holding up a bag of money and a gun.

And he's saying you're a big time drug dealer and da-da-da-da. And he's like, and he ain't giving you the, uh, the fucking the program no more. He's offering you 60 years. I said what? He goes, should have just bought gas stations without money, dude. Don't be, don't, don't try to wrap drug dealers out there. If you got motion, stay off the internet.

Well, I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, hold on, dog. So I bring up Perry Cortiz to him. I said, bro, that's the exact same fucking thing. So long story short, we wind up going to court. They enhance me because I'm a multiple felon. So all of a sudden they bring up some enhancement. They enhance me.

So now I'm facing 15. to 99 years. For possession. For possession. Because they enhance me. So the judge is like, what is this enhancement coming from? My lawyer didn't even know about it. And he's like, yeah, we're enhancing him.

He's a career criminal. And if I get enhanced one more time, that's 25 to life. So now I'm facing 15 to 99, which is basically 15 to life, for a fucking probation violation for just abscondering. And he's like, and we're offering him 60 years. And I remember I just started fucking laughing. And like, everybody looked at me. and I said 60 years.

I was like, bro, I was like, you could suck my dick. I ain't about to sign a, what? I was like, y'all gonna have to give me that shit. We're running that shit. And then the judge is like, excuse me? And I was all like, I'm not 60 years. I was like, bro, y'all just gave a fucking, because you know when you go to court,

there's like other people going. Bro, they gave a dude. It was like his fifth time fucking sex offender. Ten years probation. Yeah, they do that. Yeah, I'm like. We like pedophiles. Like, that's, this country, we know now from the

Epstein shit. The Epstein files, nobody's being arrested. We like sex offenders. We do. We like pedophiles. And I'm like, I'm like, you just let that fucking Chomo walk about this motherfucker and you're going to forgive me 60 years. She's like, you can't go to trial.

You're already guilty. I said, I can tell you this much. I'm not signing for a goddamn thing. You're going to have to give me that, bro. You're going to have to give me that time. You got me fucked up. So we went to court like a month later. My PO, who was my real PO, who is my real PO.

was cool as fuck. As soon as I got bragged, she's like, why the fuck did you run? And I told her what that dude, that Officer Hernandez cat did. And she's like, that fucking piece of shit.

So she testified on my behalf. And she was like, don't do this to him. Don't, you know, don't send him to prison. He doesn't deserve this. Da-da-da-da-da. He's passed every UA,

you know, blah, blah. She's like, you know, don't do this to this man. You're just going to turn him into a career criminal. And so the judge, she was all like, I got to give you something.

You abscond. So I'm going to give you the minimum. I'm going to give you two 15-year sentences. Ranking current, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all this old bullshit. And I'm like, I'm going to give you all your street time, this and that, da-da-da-da-da. And I'm like, I'm like, fuck it. So here we go. Fucking two 15-year sentences.

So you agreed to it. Well, I had no choice because I went to the sentencing because it's a probation violation. That's right. Yeah. So I can't fight it. There's no going to trial. Yeah. Because you already signed for it.

But I'm not signing no. plea bargain. I wasn't signing nothing. I don't care. Like, I'm not, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, if they would have offered me 15 years. But how did they give you an extra five years if it was only a 10 year probation? It was like, because they enhanced it. Dude, I think the enhancement was illegal. I still don't even know. They gave me a, they call it a paragraph. I would have like hired, because you had a lot of money, man. I would have hired some of the best lawyers to figure out how you could sue and get some money out of that. Dude, I, the last guy we had in here stands to make, no joke

and you believe that guy right John George Day stands to make and now this was the feds hundreds of millions of dollars in the feds you get paid by the second yeah like it's like a thousand dollars a second

yeah and he was like they'll never give me the whole thing but I'll probably get 10% of it and we did some quick math it's anywhere from 100 to 150 like you could have you could have whatever judge you need you could have somebody's head knock off. That's the kind of money they're going to pay you. So,

dude, that's fucking crazy. I don't know if you, maybe you should look into that. I've always thought about it. I'm like, I'm like, bro, if I ever blow up and make some fucking money, like I'm going to fucking, I'm going to, well, this, the judge, the, the, his lawyer is doing it on the strength, obviously. Yeah. He's doing it on commission because he sees. He sees. He sees how blatant it is. Yeah, I don't, I do, I don't know how it happened. And I'm like, I didn't catch a new case.

If you were going to give me a paragraph, you would have gave it to me when I caught the dope case, not now. It's not like I caught a new charge. And so yeah, dude, I didn't. Anyways. Yeah. And that's when I went back to the joint. So. Wow. And now, and now your whole life has changed. It's been years since you were gang banging and being involved in this prison politic and you've touched millions of dollars. Do you think you made more money with the weed or the meth? Probably the clear because I was in the game longer with him. Right. I wasn't in the, I was, I wasn't in the in the in the in the in the in the bud game as long but you probably were making millions I was made we were eating yeah and I and I wanted to go legal with it too because I

saw that there was you know in in Michigan they had they had shops and I was like I was like bro this is something we could we can already do right like we can go we can really like make some fucking paper off this shit and I'm a crazy motherfucker bro like I had even took a trip up to Michigan and went into a bud shop and tried to cut a deal with a shop like hey what's up bro like I'm doing this I'm doing that and he was like you you're fucking crazy. He's like, you don't even fucking know me.

But a lot of motherfuckers, that's the hustle everywhere. Buy it, buy it illegally, sell it. Yeah. So, you know,

I'm, you know, I'm down to fucking, try to fucking make some bread. So, uh, but nah, but the point is now you're in Texas state prison.

Yeah, you've been this like drug kingpin bro. So you, but your whole, that's like the most torturous thing is to be at this high level and now you're around the scum of the earth. And now you're around the sky. Yeah.

So it's like, that's a hard fall. fall psychologically. It put me, it's crazy that you said that because it put me in like a very depressive state. Yeah. Like a very depressive state. Like I wasn't really talking. I wasn't exercising. But they knew who you were from all those years before, right? Yeah, yeah. Your name was still good. My name was dude. So I popped up on that place I told you about earlier, Hutchins, Club Hutchins. Man, I went there and, you know, I got this five-nine tatted on my chest, but I'm not trying to, you know, be involved in nothing. So, um, when I was in last time, they had me on gang file,

but I signed paperwork to get off gang file. And I was on, they watched me for like six months. And then they finally let me sign paperwork to get off file. So when I went back in, they were like, what's up? Are you still? And I'm like, no, I already got up off the file. So I tell them I'm not doing nothing, which I, which I wasn't. It wasn't a lie. So they're like, all right, we're going to let you, you know, be out in population. We're not going to try to put you over here. And it's like, It's like a controlled wing area type shit. And, uh, man, I'm on the ranch that day. And the very next day, I'm walking a chowl.

And this crip dude I know, look out, Tim. Distinct-ass voice, I turn and look at him, fool name of Slow. Slow, everybody called him Slow Motion. And, uh, remember how I told you? I've seen motherfuckers like five foot two, 90 pounds, beat the fuck out, a big motherfucker horse jockey. That's what this fool was. Wow.

A fucking little black Bruce Lee fucking probably weighed one 19. I seen this motherfucker slide a dude like 6-6, like it wasn't shit. He had that dude doing the stanky leg in the day room. That boy hit like a ton of fucking bricks. I turned, I looked at him. I'm like, what's up, slow? He's like, what's up, baby? We're chopping it up.

So I'm back on the pod chilling. And then next of you know, I already knew who the bloods were that were in there. I ain't saying nothing. But I take a shower. You can see the 5-9 on my chest. So people are, you can tell they're questioning, but nobody's saying nothing to me. And all of a sudden all these blood fools come up in there. They go over, they start talking.

They're looking at me. So I see him look at me. So I start getting out of my clothes because I'm thinking they're about to come over there and try to fucking, you know, do something or whatever. And they walk over and they were all like, you Tim? I'm like, yeah, what's up? And they're like, damn, why you ain't let nobody know what's up? And I'm like, what you mean?

They're like, slow told us about you, man. He told us about how you was over on terror. And I'm like, I ain't doing that shit no more. That's why, dog. They're like, what, you ain't? I'm like, nah. And I was like, if y'all want me to cover up the five, nine, like I will. If y'all trying to fucking throw hands or some shit, you know, we can do that.

I was like, uh, but no, no, I'm, I'm too old, bro. Like, I'm, I'm done with that shit, fool. Like, I'm moved on. I still got love, you know what I'm saying? We can be cool or whatever. Like, I ain't going to watch one of y'all get jumped in front of me or anything like that. But, like, I'm not, I'm not involved anymore. And, um, they were like, nah, homeboy, ain't nobody tripping with you.

we were just, you know, checking in, what's up? And then they're like, you ever want to come back to the dog food, you know, dog bowl, come holler at us, blah, blah, blah. But then there's, like, I told you back in the game, like there wasn't a lot of, like, two, five, four cats there. Well, now two, five four is big as fucking that motherfucker. So all my homies from Temple that know me, when they find out I'm there, they just fall over the pot.

So once a week, these motherfuckers are over on the pod, and we're fucking eating big, fucking chilling, chopping it up. It starts getting me out of that depressive state. then I wound up having a tattoo artist cover up the 5-9 on my chest when I got my chest piece done. I had them cover it up even though I didn't have to get it covered up. I knew when I hit the real penitentiary, the ID unit, they might say something different.

They might be like, hey, if you ain't going to get down and you need to cover that shit up. And so I just did it to kill all the problems type shit. And fucking was chilling over there, fucking started drawing and shit, got into art and stuff like that. because I had met a couple dudes who were like tattoo artists on the streets and had shops and they caught cases. But I was like I got to switch addictions and they looked like they were living the drug dealer lifestyle but with tattooing. So I was like, let me get into art.

I didn't know how to draw shit. So I started doing that. And then like a dude that I used to bang with on Terrell unit who had laid it down and become a Muslim way back in the day he had a life sentence under the old law. right so if you got an L under the old law like before 96 here in Texas you only had to do 15 on it and you can make parole. Right. Yeah. So he came in on a parole violation and too many dirty UAs and then he got caught with like a blunt or some shit. Like so they violate him.

He did, I dude he did like a year or something over there. So he came in there and as soon as he seen me, he's like, he heard my voice. And then he walked over to me. He's like, hey, bro, were you on a tarot unit? And I was like, yeah. He's like, is your name Tim? I'm like, yeah, and his name was Tyree. He's like, you remember me?

I'm like, yeah, I remember you, bro. He's like, why you ain't say nothing to me? I was like, I didn't know if you remember me or not. So we started chopping it up. He's like, you're still banging? I'm like, nah, I got that shit covered up. I was like, bro, I'm chilling. And he's like, hell yeah, bro.

So he's like, super stiff. So I'm like, what are you back in here for? And he's like, because I'm smoking weed all the time. He's like, he got caught with a blunt or a couple of blunts, and that's why they violated him. He's like, bro, I'm never getting off this shit. He's like, I told him I'm going to smoke. But so he was like a stiff Muslim.

He was a stiff Muslim then, like praying five times a day, like always in his Quran and shit. He was, he was a practicing Muslim on the streets. And so the discipline factor is what attracted me. Definitely. A lot of people. Yeah. And Muslims, dude, are very, like, well read.

Like, they will study like a motherfucker. So I was like, I was like, oh, what's up with the, what's up with Muslim thing? And da, da, da, da. and like when I was on taral unit there was one white Muslim there the whole time but he had no respect he was really a hoe like he was really in it for protection

most of Muslims didn't like him he had a bunch of money and so you know I knew about him you know he was the S2 so he like never had to worry about no real problems type shit so he started bringing me down to like Talene and shit that's like the service they have on Wednesday

and then Juma like their churches on Friday, but if you're not a Muslim, you're not allowed to go to Jumah. So I was going to Talin, and then eventually they were like, hey, you can, uh, you can come to Jumah. So I wound up going to Jumah a couple times and they had, like, people from the Middle East coming in there and teaching and stuff like that. And, um, just started super studying super hard, you know, was telling my mom about it. She was against it, obviously. She was like, not anything to do with, like, Muslims, but she was just like the whole 9-11 shit, right?

Right. She's like, don't do that. So, like, a lot of people don't know. Like, Mom, that was Israel and the United States. Yeah. But the Jews. It's just, you know, she, she. Not the Muslims.

Yeah, for real. It definitely was, yeah, yeah, hell. Yeah, we can get on that for sure, dog. I'm definitely on that shit. But I, I won't, but anyway. So I'm like, I'm like, mom, I was like, you don't, you know, chill out. Da, da, da, da. So what a lot of people don't know is, when you become a Muslim in prison, they, they, it's not a guarantee.

they're going to do it. So when you take your shahada, like when the guy from the outside comes in and does it, he tells you this. He's like, you know that they can put you on a terrorist watch list for this. Because during the whole war, there was people that got out of prison and went over there to fight with al-Qaeda or ISIS. Like, that's happened, right? So they know that people get radicalized in jail type shit. And I was like, okay. And he's like, are you sure you want to do this? And I'm like, yeah. So I wound up taking my shahada there. Full-blown Muslim. fucking praying five times a day, fucking working out, fucking pork free tray like a motherfucker, shit like that. So then I get shipped off the farm. You know, I got my prayer rug with me. So fucking, you know, when you get transferred, you're going to different things. But they got to let you keep your prayer rug and your Quran. So I'm taking my prayer rug with me.

And as soon as I'm hitting these units and walking and people see me, they're going to shoot out the call. Slam al-a-lakem. They're going, they're going hit you with the Salam-a-Lakum. So, you know what I'm saying? Well, like him as alam. What's up, brother? What you need, brother? They're going to shoot SSIs down there to you.

Yeah. Like, I ain't going to lie to you, man. Like, it's some real fucking brotherhood type shit. Like, they're fucking with you, like, for real. So I make it to the real farm. Go to UCC. They see I'm a Muslim. They see that I used to be a gang member.

And then they were like, are you going to be chilling here or what? And then I was like, I was like, yeah. So I had caught a shank case back my first time. right they didn't do nothing to me they didn't hit me with no time nothing like that so they held up a picture of the shank and they were like are you getting down like this anymore and i was all like if my back against a wall and that's how i got to come out swinging then obviously i was like but bro i'm in my 30s like i'm just trying to chill and go home dude i haven't had no fuck up since i've been locked up i'm just trying to chill and i think if the rank would have been white they would have tried to put me on a

fucked up a real fucked up building but all the rank at torres unit is mexican it's like 90% mexican on the farm like they run that motherfucker so they sent me to a straight pod because they politics stupid tough on torres unit like stupid it's stupid tough and um so i get over there fucking as soon as i hit the pot i got my prayer rug and stuff like that so the few muslims that see me they come up they just come straight up to the cell salm alayin we're all we're chopping it up So they kind of run me on my knowledge See if I know my prayers My voodoo

Like if I can say it all in Arabic and stuff like that To make sure I'm not like faking the funk Like I'm just trying to do it for protection Because they do protect you Like if you're in a gang And you try to get out of your gang To become a Muslim and say the gang is like Nah that ain't happening

Then Muslims will step in And they're gonna be like Well if we gotta go to war for this brother Then that's what's happening And then they'll be like Or y'all can smash them out You can D him up right now and do what you got to do.

And after that, it's over with. And that's usually what takes place and stuff like that. So I was in Islam practicing heavy dog for a minute, bro, down there. And I was tattooing and shit. I learned how to tattoo in prison. Okay, that's where you learned how to tattoo in prison. I was drawing real quiet, didn't fuck with anybody, worked out six days a week, sometimes seven days a week.

That makes the time fly. Yeah, it makes it fly. and then like a Muslim, bro. Like, okay, so I always kind of felt hurt deep down that like, I guess white people in Texas didn't accept me, right? Because I know that I'm white and I'm a race realist. I know that ethnicity is real and I know that culture matters. And I think it always kind of bothered me deep down that my culture,

unless there were fly white boys didn't accept me. Like, I think it bothered me, right? This is me thinking years later after I made the choice that I made. But, like, there was things going on in Islam where, like,

it was still the, the biasedness towards white people. And you were always hearing the white this, the white dad, like certain things, conversations, oh, well, the white, and it was like, it was like, damn, I got to deal with this shit now, again, in religion.

like I wasn't really a spiritual man and I wasn't really a religious man I was really in it for the brotherhood and the discipline so it kind of felt like I was faking the funk anyways being a part of something but I was also still trying to identify with like the black culture too right because I was I grew up around that but I've never really I've never had a problem with white people because I've had white friends and we always hung out I thought fly white boys like me school like school boy white boys like I've never I've always been that guy like in school I I fucked with the weirdos, all types of shit. So, like, I just started having a problem. Like, deep down, it was, like, bothering me about things. And then, like, a Muslim brother of mine, who's now in the fucking feds, I wouldn't even think he did a 25-type man, Waheed, here from Austin.

He just caught his case, like, two years ago. I never think he would get involved in anything like that. He started exposing me to Jewish propaganda. He started exposing. me to things about black history that weren't real, that were falsehoods, things about white people that were lies. A lot of these, a lot of these like things. And I guess like, I don't know what it was, but I just like started, I started to drift. And there was a white from Islam. Yes, I started to talk to more white dudes. So like this one white dude who was an ex-A-B-T named country, he came up

to me. He's out right now. We're friends on Facebook. He came up to me. He was drunk off wine. And I had just came back. I was working in the commissary. Like where you go canteen, where you go and buy shit. So as soon as I come home from work, I immediately come in to woo-doo say my prayer and I pray, right? Right off the rip before I do anything. As soon as I come home, I hit my prayer. And he told me, he jammed me up on the stairs. I was about to work out. And he came to me. He's like, man, Tim, he's like, you know, the whole time you've been on this farm, I've been here for a couple years now, like four years. He's like, uh, I never wanted to like you, but I've always respected your discipline and you're cool as a motherfucker. He's like, I just wish you were on our team.

And, uh, I was like, I was like, hell, I was like, I appreciate, I appreciate you saying that to me, bro. And he's like, he's like, I know I'm drunk. He's like, but I just wanted to let you know that there's been times that I've looked down at your cell and wanted to come down there and hit you with something because I'm like this solid-ass dude, but he ain't even fucking with his own people. And I was like, that's because my own people decided not to fuck with me. Because y'all wouldn't respect me for who I am. So now there's a thing in Texas prisons where fly white dudes are woods, but they call them like hoodwoods. So they're hoodwoods. They might have banged in the world, maybe not, but because they have a thing down there

now called the woodpile. It's basically like the tango blast, but like white people. They call each other homeboy, they heart check each other, shit like that. So you got a bunch of fly-ass white boys who listen to rap, fucking act, you know, hood, you know what I'm saying? They're stupid cool with black people, stupid cool with essays, but their hood woods. So I started like, you know, fucking with the whites, the hood woods, some of the regular woods, stuff like that. And we just really started clicking. And I started to drift away from Islam. And I guess I just just like was like identifying with just you know you know white people i guess like kicking it with white people like like chopping it up with them giving them a chance to talk and then there was

the country white boys that weren't fucking with me and um you know there was a couple of x abt cats there because those were the cats that beat the fuck out of me you know what i'm saying yeah way back in the game so like we talked about that and they were like yeah that's some bullshit they shouldn't have did that to you and we were just chopping it up getting cool so there was a white dude there my boy texts man he's out right now good people dog um he was a Crip in the world and he would lock up with the Crips but then one day i seen him shoot bolts with my homeboy so like the whites we have a handshake here where he's shaking you like they shoot bolts like that so i seen him shoot bolts with my home boy so one day i jam up i'm like he i'm like what's up text and he's like you know he says

the N-word and everything in jail like that's kind of like affluent now essay say it like you'll hear people saying this shit right yeah yeah so uh I'm like, what are you, fool? And he's like, what do you mean? I was like, are you a Crip? Or are you a wood? Because I've seen you shoot bolts. Like, what's up?

He's like, oh, no, I'm a wood, bro. I'm a hoodwood. He's like, we just be locking up fucking around. That's my home boy from the world. They know what's up with me. And I was like, so how did you grow up? So I started talking to him because I'm like deep down having conflicting issues. It's really bothering me because there was dudes on this unit that knew me from Terrell.

Like dudes that didn't know I was a blood. when I pulled up there and they seen me and they were like, bro, you, you were on tariff? So they started telling. So it's like the whole process again. Oh, you know, like this scriptful name Pat from Fort Worth. He's like, bro, he's like, I was on medium custody with that white boy. That white boy goes hard. So everybody's like, you were a blood because I had the five, nine covered. So I just let sleeping dogs lie. I didn't tell no, because I just didn't want to answer for it, I guess. I didn't want to talk about it. Like, I didn't want to like feel like I owed somebody an explanation or some shit because I kind of like feel like it's like bro I'm not gonna explain myself like I ain't got time I'm a

grown ass man fool like but at the same time you know it's a delicate situation so you don't want to act like I ain't got time to fucking talk I ain't you know I ain't got to answer your questions and they'd be like well shit motherfucker well what's up catch that shower fool since you ain't got time to fucking answer no quick so you know it's it's kind of annoying but at the same time it has to be done so I'm like how did you go from being like this and rolling like this to now rolling with whites like what is the thing and it was the same it was the same thing that i was i guess having a problem with he's like i'll never be them i'll never be them i'll always be the outcast he's like black like i'll never that's their thing yeah i'll never be that he's like he's like he's like it ain't

no beef he's like i ain't got no uh you know no nazi signs he's like i ain't over here on no shit like that he's like he's like but i'm white and he's like you know i'm never going to be fully accepted by them. And he's like, and I would rather roll with the group that's going to accept me fully. And he's like, so my decision, he's like, I didn't make it quick. He's like, I was solo when I first came here. He's like, but, you know, I've met some good woods in here. And they're my homies.

And he's like, so, you know, I want to ride with him. So there was some shit that had kicked off with the Mexicans in there, a K2 debt. And so like a riot had. happened a couple years before I got there because a white dude caught out owing some money on a K2 debt. So a riot happened between like the whites and the blast. And then after the riot happened, they were like, they had made a deal that any white dude or like maxing.

And if somebody caught out owned a drug debt that it wouldn't kick into a race riot, right? So there was a homeboy on the, on another building that caught out, like, oh, and like $350 on a tune debt. And, um, fucking, uh, so my homeboy was out of place over there, and he had some contraband on him. He's out now doing this thing, legit, owns an oil change place and shit like that.

So he had some contraband on him. So like fucking five whites got smashed by like 30 Mexicans. He's over there out of place with some fucking contraband that can catch him free world time like a motherfucker. So instead of staying and getting involved in the riot, which would have been stupid as fuck, the door was shutting because he was out of place. But his job let him move around like that. But he wasn't supposed to be over there, but his boss let him go over there to handle some business.

He jumped out of the pod and then shot out and then made it back to our building. So the whites that got smashed, some of them I was stupid cool with. So now there was like this bit, all this politic. And it was about to be like there was riots that popped. off on multiple sections. You know what I'm saying, between the whites and Mexicans. And then, you know, it was like blast had got involved in there. And bro, that unit was probably like maybe 10% white. And out of that 10%, maybe 3 was stiff. So they're just getting fucking aired out. So the whites that I'm kicking it with, we've gotten super close, like really

super close. And, you know, you got to, it's kind of like a weird situation because they know that I used to bang. Then I, I was a, I've been a Muslim on this unit for almost five years. years now and now I'm starting to hang out with them. So there was whites that weren't feeling that shit. So like, like if you're solo, you're not supposed to speak on gang business. So now the, the woods were fucked up with my homeboy for jumping out and burning off with that shit on him. So he's like, bro, what am I supposed to do? Fucking catch a free world charge for what? A fight I can't win? Are y'all stupid? So I got fucked up about that. So I wound up speaking on that business. And then And they were like, you know, you can't speak on nothing if you ain't down with us.

And I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, I know you're right, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, but this is some bullshit. So like the tensions were kicking off. There was all these meetings going on. And so my homeboy who's back in the pen right now, he just got a fresh eight. He was kind of like a mentor to me, my boy Derek. He could see that it was bothering me that I couldn't like speak up for guys that I had grown fond with. You know what I'm saying?

And he came over to me and he was like, What's up, home boy? What are you fucked up about? And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, I see you like looking at us and stuff like that. And I was like, I was like, bro, I really fuck with y'all, dog. Like, I really cut with y'all. And I was like, and I bet.

So by this time, within like the past couple weeks, I slid back from Islam. Like, I went and I gave him my rug. I gave my Quran, my Kofi, like everything. And they're like, what's up? And I would, and I just told them straight up. I was like, I guess I might be going through like an identity crisis right now. but I don't know. I'm just going to slide back from this.

And they had already kind of seen it anyways. So, and it's very hard for me to explain this emotionally, like to make it make sense what, like somebody say they're identifying with like, you know, their culture or something, if you want to call it like that. But, um, so they like had a meeting and my homeboy came down.

He's like, hey, bro, we're about to fall out of place to this pod and go and fucking and get it with these Mexicans. And I was like, for real, he's like, I need you to make a phone call to my people. And I was like, bro, let me go over there with y'all. And he is like, man, you can't do that. You ain't with us. I said, man, I don't give a fuck fool. Like, this is my homeboy tugboat.

He's out right now, too, doing good. And I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Like, I'm like, fuck it. Like, I'm riding with y'all type shit. And he's like, well, you can't do that. And I'm like, I'm going. Like, regardless, I'm wrong with y'all. So he leaves.

Then they all wind up talking. And my home boy, Derek comes back over there. He's like, hey, bro, let us holler at you real quick. So I go over there and we go up in the cell and he's all like, you're trying to start shooting boats or what? And I was like, I don't know if I'm trying to start shooting boats, but I know that I fuck with y'all. And for some reason, I just feel like I want to get out with y'all.

Like, I don't want to see y'all get aired out like this. Like, I want to, I don't know. I just like, I can't really explain it. And then they were like, well, bro, if you're trying to get out with us, then we need you. Like, we ain't fucked up with you. We already made a call. So there was another white dude on the other side.

He was the main shot caller. White boy, he's out now, too, doing good. Name Chief, big-ass white boys. Fucking one-hitter quitters. They sent word over to him already behind my back, like, hey, we want to, we want Tim to get out with us how you feel about us. And he liked me. So he was all like, yeah, fucking get him in. So they were like, what's up?

You're going to get out with the crackers or what? And I'm like, fuck it. Let's ride. So joined up like that. It was crazy because me getting down like that, it really bridged a gap with the other races because seeing how I used to get down with the blacks, even the Mexicans felt like they could trust me more.

So when that racial tension was kicking off, my homeboy who was on the other side of the fence, we're co-workers. So we're about to get after it with his click. he sends a kite to me and says, hey, let's meet up in a chahaw and talk. So we go and link up in the chow hall. He said, we need a dead this bitch-ass shit, bro.

And he's all like, I know I can trust you. I know you're not like, you're not a racist. I know you're not prejudiced. Because even before I got down with them, I went and talked to the Muslims first. And I said, well, how would y'all feel about me becoming a peckerwood? And they were like, that's your people, bro.

Like, we always thought it was weird that you didn't do it. So then I had some homies from the world. over there that I knew that are black. And then I had some blood homeboys that I knew from the world that were there. And I knew had blood homeboys who were on tarot unit with me. So I went and talked to all them individually because this was really bothering me on the inside to go from one thing to another. It's like one extreme to the next. It really, I lost sleep behind it. It really bothered me. And because I felt like I was betraying black people, right? Like it was just a very, very mentally draining situations. So I went to them and I was like, how would y'all feel about me being down

with these fools? And they were just like, even my homeboy still today. I talked to him yesterday. He was all like, he's like, he's like, you're white. Like, I thought thought you were crazy as a motherfucker fucking with us. He's like, you're white, bro. Like, those are your people. He's like, we know. Of course, black. And that's how awesome black people are. They get it. Yeah, they get. They're not, they're not tripping. They're like, bro, you're white. They're like, bro, that's your people. bro, we know who you are. And then they even said the same thing. They were like, bro, he's like,

what's cool is it's kind of going to kind of bridge a gap because we know we can trust you. We know deep down you got love for us. You're not going to come and talk to us and then walk off and say, oh, stupid ass, toe, as dumb. We know you ain't built like that. So did that riot or that beef get squashed? It got squashed.

But what's crazy is that I wound up hiring a parole lawyer. There were still racial tensions. So like, they wind up taking our bench on one pod and then we had to go over there and get our bench back and you know it shit kept dominoing for like six months and then my homeboy made parole who was about to go home so he's like I'm nominating you for speaker so he's like so I'm gonna start we're gonna start doing this I'm gonna start showing you all this stuff so we're he's grooming me for his position when he leaves so we're going to talk and we're meeting up

with the leaders of each building in the chow hall chopping it up stuff like that talking about business and stuff like that and then um fucking i make parole then then then then then and then and then i'm so yeah so i dude i think i was like a Muslim for five years five over five years i think i had my timeline off yeah it was way yeah it was yeah because i was only a wood for like almost two years and then just like that you make parole and that was six years ago. And you're still on paper, though. Yeah, I'm still on paper.

Got a couple more years. Got a couple more years. Wow. And will this be the first time? I mean, six years, this is the longest you've been on the streets, right? Yeah. Pretty much? Yeah.

Wow. And you've been on paper since you were 17 years old. Yeah, yeah. You're 43 now. I'm 43, about to be 43 next month. And I'll be, what, 40. I'll be 44, about to be 45 when I get off in a, in a, and fucking um

2028 dog damn near 30 years yeah and then like my piece so like I'm like on the lightest parole you can be on so like I only have to report by the phone like every 90 days yeah but the UA's are random

so they just call you at random be like hey you're on the UA list coming in you got like 24 hours to go in so I'm at the gym uh two days ago and uh today's Friday right so it was Wednesday So I'm talking to my brother My PO calls me

I'll pick up, I'm like, what's up, bro? And I'd be talking to him like a regular person I'm like, what's up, what's up, bro? How you doing, man? Because I mean, we ain't trying to beef with these motherfuckers. Like, they can fuck your life all the way up. Like, I don't need that shit. So he's all like, hey, bro, he's like,

your name came up on the UA list. And I was like, for real. And he's like, yeah, I was like, bad when you need me to come in. So he's like, can you come in tomorrow morning? And I'm like, yeah. So he's like, I want you to know something that they have.

some new thing. I couldn't really hear him too well, but then he was all like, I recommended you to be put on like annual visits. He's like, it already got approved by my supervisor. We're just waiting for Austin to see what they'll say. And I was like, bet. And he's like, you know what that means? I was like, no. And he's like, that you only got a report once a year. And he's all like, you know, you got two years left. He's like, you deserve it. No violations. You've been chilling. He's like, you really changed your life. He's like, you know, he's like fucking, you know, you deserve it. So he's like, hopefully, he's like, it could take like a month for that to come back. And so hopefully that's that's that.

Amazing, man. Amazing. Well, congratulations. That's an odyssey. So for people who didn't see the first episode with you, you're now like a private tattoo artist. You're kind of a tattoo artist on demand. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you work between like Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio. So shout your Instagram out because then people can get a hold of you. They can DM you. And if you got some bread to spend. Yeah, hell, yeah, man. You're not doing a $50 joints. Come with some real fucking money. You heard how much money this cat was getting.

So they could DM you and then you'll arrange to come to them, basically. Yeah, yeah, I'll just get up a studio and they can come to the studio and get in with me. And it's criminal customs, tattoos and designs. And I'm actually not expensive, bro, because I understand the economy right now. and I understand people don't have money like that. And my job, if you want to call it, like what I'm selling is not a necessity. It's a want.

So I'm competing with tennis shoes and clothes and going out on dates. And I understand people don't have bread like that, but they want good work. So I work with people's budgets. So like I'm not going to fucking tax you some stupid crazy because I want you to get the work. And it's like,

I'm not really a special. spiritual person, but tribal nations still to this day, and back in the game, packs were made through blood. And a tattoo is a scar. I'm actually performing minor surgery at the proper level, and I'm installing a pigment in a scar, because that's what the needle was doing. It's cutting you open at the right depth. And I'm installing a pigment into you, and it's healing over, and it's proper. So to me, it's like a spiritual thing because I'm scarring, you. We're shedding blood together. I'm putting you through pain. That's why when I tattoo somebody, I say, do you want to listen to music or do you want to talk?

And you'll hear them. They want to talk. And I chop it up with them. I talk to him about shit. Tell them about shit. I throw your podcast on in the background. I'm going to tell you that again, bro. Like, I always bump your shit, man. For real, dog. And I work with people's budgets, bro. So I don't charge an arm and a leg for tattoos. Like, I probably should. I deserve it. My mom, she found out how much I charged last night when I went out of town. She's like, how much you charge for that tattoo? And I told her, and she's like, son, you're ripping yourself off. Well, but the point is you'll work with people.

Yeah. So, so yeah. Shout out. We'll put the link in the description. And man, that was an odyssey, Tim. Thank you so much, brother. Hey, thank you for having me seriously, bro. Of course, man.

All right, you guys. Take care. We'll talk to you soon. Hit him up. He's got the tattoos, bro. And he's licensed? Yeah. Nice.

Yeah, hell yeah. This is no prison tattoo. No, this ain't no prison tattoos. brother. All right, you guys. We'll see you next time. Take care.