The Connect- with Johnny Mitchell - The Shocking Truth Behind Kurt Cobain's Murder Revealed & Diddy Scandal Uncovered By Whistleblower
Episode Date: September 26, 2024Controversial investigative reporter Chris Todd returns to uncover startling new evidence that challenges the official narrative of Kurt Cobain's death, suggesting premeditated murder and revealing th...e involvement of multiple individuals. He dives into the suspicious details surrounding Cobain's final days, the inconsistencies in the investigation, and the shocking claims about who might have been involved. Additionally, Chris discusses exposes a major scandal involving Diddy, with allegations of abuse and incriminating material that could lead to significant legal consequences. Do you believe what Chris has to say? Let us know in the comments! Support Chris! Books: Ron's Revenge: https://www.amazon.com/RONS-REVENGE-Chris-Todd/dp/B08KTWGY64 Forest For The Trees: https://www.amazon.com/Forest-Trees-Indiana-murdered-teenage/dp/B0BKFKS1BL Email: investigatorla19@gmail.com Join The Patreon For Bonus Content! https://www.patreon.com/theconnectshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today, what I'm saying is there are obvious signs of premeditation.
The suicide note someone else is writing the last four lines.
That is not Kirk Cobain writing the last four lines.
And they believe Courtney Love wrote that because they found she was tracing letters in her backpack and trying to write like Kirk.
And just for your audience, I am going to name the killers today.
I've been given exclusive access to Kim Porter's Flash Drive detailing her abysing.
abuse and the witnessing of a lot of secrets on Sean Combs.
The rumor is there's other famous men that Diddy was having trists with.
I'm a whistleblower.
I fight for victims.
I'm the voice of the voiceless.
I'm undefeated in court.
Like, if you want to come at me, good luck.
That's when I see the lights behind me start to flash.
And I didn't even think.
I just hit it.
I was driving like my life depended on.
Then I parked the car, popped out.
I closed the door and I started running.
And he pulls out a burner, shang, it's like six inches.
And he passes it to me.
And he goes, here, that's yours.
Don't ever leave the cell block without this.
He was the reason I made it out of that place alive.
Chris Todd.
Welcome back, my friend.
Hey, good to see you.
Hey, Johnny.
You were a very polarizing figure on your first appearance on the Connect.
People threatened my life.
Really?
Because they hated you so much.
much. Oh, I got so many. I mean, black people still love OJ. I'll say that right now. I mean,
it's like, I didn't know y'all motherfuckers was on this bullshit. I'm unsubscribing.
Really? Do I owe you money for the unsubscribe? You know, I think I got him back. I think I,
worked on my- We got some new ones, probably. I hope so. I hope so. But don't you dare alienate our black
fan base, okay? We treasure them. I live in that world and, yeah. You know,
talking about it and thinking about it further.
Yeah.
Is there a possibility,
is there a possibility that he didn't do it,
that he didn't do the,
no,
there's no possibility,
that he was just there and witnessed it and said,
oh my God,
oh my fuck.
Does the mafia deal drugs?
Yeah.
Okay.
There's your answer.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure that.
Allegedly.
I'm not sure that was the slam dunk,
the proof that he actually did it.
But no,
look,
I believe it.
I believe it.
I'm convinced also that there was a second person there.
I thought you gave a very compelling argument.
And that's why I want to have you back because you actually have an update.
You didn't just come on here, spew a conspiracy theory and then disappear into the wind.
Right.
Yeah.
This is really fucking cool.
Yeah.
So let's frame it for people that don't quite remember how the OJ, how we wrapped
up the last OJ episode.
The, just to reiterate,
the Los Angeles
prosecutor's office, the DA,
refused to
include the evidence,
the blood evidence,
the hair evidence.
To this day,
to let me do anything.
Yes, refuses and refused
back then during the trial to admit
this evidence.
Right.
So now,
30 fucking years later,
tell us what's going on.
So we ended the last episode.
I think we talked about the lawsuit that Charlie had filed against the journalist,
Bob Norman in Miami.
And that's very fluid.
So we've had some new subpoenas go out.
Can you remind me of that lawsuit?
Charlie Ehrlich is...
Charlie Ehrlich versus the Miami New Times.
Right.
And Charlie Ehrlich is the alleged accomplice in the murders.
With OJ.
Yeah.
Who came forward on a tape and with a screenplay and a manuscript and all these things
with that it's been a rocky road for seven years.
I do have some new confirmation that on this tape is the parts of OJ killing them.
That he says that.
Like OJ is admitting on tape.
No, that Charlie is saying I watched OJ stabbed them to death.
Oh, gotcha.
Because remember, Charlie's not wanting to say he committed any murder.
So he acts like a witness.
Nobody would go on tape and go, yeah, I was stabbing Ron Goldman.
Right.
And that's and then, yeah, that's right.
And OJ in his book, if I did it, is basically pushing the blame under Ehrlich.
They're both blaming each other.
They're blaming each other and saying, you know, Charlie's in a panic.
But OJ says, you know, well, I blacked out and I don't remember what happened.
I grabbed the knife from Charlie and the rest, I don't remember.
So it's kind of a game they're playing.
But so basically the lawsuit, but it's fluid.
Every day something news happening.
So since I've been here, I've been subpoenaed and I've been deposed.
I was deposed this week.
why was he suing?
For defamation by implication.
Okay.
By hinting by we we helped reveal some of the select screenplay pages that talk about June 12th.
And also his drug dealing and Joey Apolito and the cocaine cowboys.
So this was filed three years ago in 2021.
So it's the three year anniversary.
So I was very recently subpoenaed finally after three years.
and I was deposed.
I can talk because I'm not on their gag order.
There's no protective order.
I'm not going to reveal secrets from the deposition.
It'll become public.
You know, these filings are public.
I'm not St. Trellis Law, has them.
Courthouse News.
Pacer is federal usually.
So I went to my deposition,
but what I didn't realize was that also
subpoenas have gone out for Marcia Clark,
Chris Darden and Mark Furman.
Wow.
That is fucking historical.
Think about that.
Marsha Clark, who's retired, I'm sure.
I'm sure all these people are like, they're all in their 70s.
Furman's on Fox News sometimes still.
Mark Furman.
Mark Furman.
And word Mark Furmanator.
Yep.
The Fermanator.
Wow.
And who else?
And I'm listed on the sheet with all of them.
So it goes like Chris Todd.
I mean, that's my stage name because everyone likes to point this out.
But let's just say it's Chris Todd, Mark Furman.
and Marshall Clark Chris Darden.
And I was like, wow.
Now, I talked to some of the legal representatives because I'm allowed to.
I represent myself on my own counsel through my Sixth Amendment privilege or right.
I had a conversation with a couple of people.
And I was like, wow, you're really going to go for it.
Like, are you out of your mind?
And then it dawned to me.
I go, oh, I know what you're trying to do.
You think they're going to come on and go, just OJ did it.
There was no Charlie or, like.
but there's a problem with that
because you guys all goofed it for 30 years
so are you believable
I think they'll fight it I'm already getting word
that they're going to fight it
what are they getting subpoenaed about
what are they going to ask what is the DA going to ask
I didn't know it'd be that Charlie's lawyer would depose them
okay so okay got it so what
a plaintiff's lawyer deposing them saying
you know you've seen this guy Chris Todd on the
I have no idea who he has they know
no no but what okay what is
Charlie Ehrlich's lawyer going to be asking Marsha Clark.
Do you think there was someone else with O.J. Simpson at the murders?
Do you have evidence that there was somebody else?
He wants them to say, O.J. did it so that he can go, see, my client didn't do it.
So then why would Marsha Clark be fighting that talking about it?
They want nothing to do with coming back 30 years talking about O.J. Simpson.
You think Furman wants to talk about the Furman tapes?
Right.
When he gets on there?
Yeah.
Right.
Did you plant the glove?
Like if that, what if that stuff comes up?
And look, these, the lawyers on both sides, I think they're good people.
I know them both.
And there's other lawyers.
They're in way over their head.
Way.
And I made a statement in the deposition that shook them, okay, both like they saw ghosts.
So you must have, I mean, I'm shocked that Erlick's lawyer would depose you.
It's crazy.
You're the one that's exposing Erlich for being the accomplice for helping commit the murders.
And he thinks he's going to battle me?
So is he going to let you, is he going to let that see the light of day?
They asked me to testify at the trial.
I said I will not go to Miami.
I'll do it remotely.
Why would they do that?
Why would they are lost, man.
They are flying.
It's like Fox and Mike Tyson with a blindfold.
Where can people look up this information that don't believe you?
Just Google Charlie Erlich Miami lawsuit.
Uh-huh.
Or you can also Google.
Google the case number, I'll say it's public case number. Florida case number 0-866-C-C-A-1.
What do you think if Marsha Clark, if they somehow lose the appeal to not be deposed to do the deposition,
what do you think will come of this? If they just go on there and say, yeah, we believe OJ did it and we
fought the case and we lost and that's just what it is.
Like what,
how could this change the course of events?
If everybody wants to pile up on Chris Todd, right?
And they want to like,
because remember,
they don't want there to be an accomplice either.
They don't want to look like they missed too for,
during the thing,
right?
So if,
if there depends what kind of mood they're in when they wake up,
which way the wind blows,
these are talkative,
smart people, right?
If they get in a hair up their,
you know what and they really want to go at it.
I think what they would say is they'd be like,
OJ did it. All the evidence says OJ did it.
This guy, Chris Todd is a wacko, right?
Charlie Ehrlich never heard his name until Chris Todd said it.
But the problem is they've missed since day one.
Tom Lang missed.
Van Adder missed.
They all missed.
That's the point.
That's what I'm going up against.
Yeah.
So it doesn't look like this is, to be frank with you,
can't see how this results in like a retrial of like because for me and probably for you the goal right
the dream is to get them to charge Charlie Ehrlich or just investigate them just just reopen the
case would they be allowed to charge him they would right yeah it's an open case it's not closed right
right right it's when I did the FOIA request it was denied from the LAPD sent the book back
it's an open case it's an open investigation we don't give out discovery files or any evidence or we call murder books
we don't give the homicide book to the public okay then what are you doing it's it's look to be real frank
it's a joke like this and when i went in this deposition like i said i almost felt bad for them
and i went to court on this before at the lea superior court i pity these people okay i'm not i'm
a knock on wood. I'm undefeated
in court. Like, if you want to come
at me, good luck.
But the truth is its own defense.
And they even cut the
deposition short. No more questions.
Once I started, once
I started on the evidence, they're like,
no more, I'm good.
I know you're good because you don't know
the story. You don't know the evidence.
You're dead
to rights. Do you think there
is a chance that if
you know, somehow there's
major publicity, like new
public pressure breath breathed into
this case. Do you think that
the new blood in the DA's
office could
arrest and try early? What answer do you want
from me? My real honest opinion?
Yeah, of course. Negative. Okay.
So what are you, what's your goal then? With this?
My goal has always been for the
HBO. A series.
No, no, no. No, I don't, that's, they own that. I don't own
the series on the scripted version. That's owned by
another producer. Everyone knows his name.
you can look it up.
That's his product.
I'm a whistleblower.
I fight for victims.
I'm the voice of the voiceless.
I am here for the Goldman's and the Browns
in our whole country to know the truth.
Now, the flip side of that is also
is for me to expose the media
for censoring this story.
That is my other side of this.
Okay. Wow.
Well, it's a victory still,
just getting them to ruffling their feathers
a little bit. I mean, I hope it goes further. I guess we'll see what happens with the lawsuit.
I guess we'll see what happens with. And you think of it this way. If there's a lawsuit,
if there's a lawsuit and it's in the public domain, why are no reporters even reporting on the lawsuit
at all? It's a media blackout. And, you know, I've challenged all these people if they
want to talk or debate or do anything. I have confirmation from multiple media outlets. They are
stopping me from talking.
Okay, so let's move on
now to the big Kahuna.
Kurt Cobain.
This is titillating.
Close to my heart is a Pacific Northwest
boy. Yeah, me too, Portland.
Yeah, exactly. What do you mean? You're from Portland.
I lives in Portland for many years. Oh, nice. Where?
Southeast Portland. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, I could see that.
Yeah, southeast. Yeah. Back when I was a hippie kind of.
Yeah, back when it was hippie. Now it's yuppie.
You know, it's mad, nice over there now.
So this is breaking, basically.
Would you call this breaking?
This is brand new.
Okay.
This is all brand new.
Okay.
So, you know, just to revisit it for the folks,
Cobain allegedly committed suicide, put a gigantic shotgun in his mouth.
Almost, it's almost like a cartoon, right?
About how he could have killed himself.
Like, it's impossible.
Tell what is the official story?
Sure.
If you could just, yeah, just reiterate it really quick.
Yeah, yeah.
So in April of 1994 on April 8th, Kurt's body is found about eight at eight in the morning by an electrician.
And right away, they're just yelling suicide.
They find a suicide note with a pen stuck through it, which they call a suicide.
We'll go over that.
And they literally within the same day declare it a suicide without any toxicology.
reports, without any fingerprint
testing, without any
interviewing any of the people that were
at the house for days
after and before the
murder. So
and this has been
30 years of cover up.
The Seattle PD did probably
the worst investigation I've ever seen.
Laffable.
Yeah. And I can prove
they covered up certain aspects of it.
Absolutely. And so, you know,
And Courtney read the letter and everyone sat in the park and MTV or they let her read the letter and she's crying.
It's none of your business.
But I want to read that, you know, she does all this weird stuff.
And everyone's just, you know, it was kind of a gut punch.
And this is two months before OJ.
And so when OJ happens, the media vacuum occurs, right?
And they're by-bye Kurt.
Suicide, found a gun, wrapped around his hand, shot himself through the mouth.
End of story.
Heroin addict, you know, dark lyrics, self-destructive.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, he was found in a dope house with scores of other heroin addicts living there.
You know, so there's definitely, you know, junkies when they're out of their minds
or when they need money or when they, you know, for whatever reason when they're,
when they're withdrawing, yeah, they become, they leave themselves.
Like a demon.
They leave themselves.
I know this because I had parents' friends who were murdered by junkies just off of the same kind of trip, right?
Right.
Coming down when they're dope sick.
So I do definitely see that.
I see that motive.
It was either something deeper or it was a crime of opportunity.
I will say.
What do you think?
I will say it's premeditated.
Premeditated.
Yes.
Wow.
Wow. It is.
Did Courtney Love have anything to do with it?
Yes.
Okay. So what do we now have, what do we now have that's breaking on this?
Okay. So right now, and just for your audience, I am going to name the killers today.
Okay.
And I'm going to name all the accessories slash witnesses.
Okay.
When we say what an accessory is versus a witness, there's a fine line.
So to give these people an out, I will call them accessories slash witnesses.
The two killers are killers.
I will name them today.
Before you name the accomplices, name the killers,
and we talk about this individual who came forward
and basically was interviewed about it, a witness.
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In the beginning, when I started to meet,
the accessories, witnesses, and to a degree,
I don't want to comment too much about the killers,
what I tried to do there with them.
But Courtney Love, I didn't want to say
was even really involved because she was in L.A. at the time.
So she has an alibi, right?
She's not at the house.
She actually was at the Peninsula Hotel.
She is not in Seattle during the murder.
A lot of people are bringing up questions
or there's some stuff leaking on Facebook and YouTube.
and they want to go after Courtney.
They've all wanted to go after Courtney for 30 years, okay?
Today what I'm saying is there are obvious signs of premeditation.
The suicide note someone else is writing the last four lines.
That is not Kirk Cobain writing the last four lines.
What are the last four lines?
They say like Francis and Courtney, please go on.
I love you.
I love you.
there's four lines total.
It just doesn't sound like him.
It's way too big.
His writing was very small when you look at his.
And it's not really a suicide letter.
I think it was kind of him saying goodbye to Nirvana.
And he was trying to take a break.
He was leaving Nirvana.
They canceled Lollapalooza.
They canceled the European tour.
Supposedly they were going to redo the European tour.
So that was like evidence that he wasn't suicidal.
Like they were, man, they were like this, man.
Okay, so he definitely wrote that note, but you're saying the last four lines were doctor.
Yes.
Okay.
And they believe Courtney Love wrote that because they found she was tracing letters in her backpack.
She left it at Rosemary Carroll's office.
And in the backpack, they found her tracing over letters and trying to write like Kurt.
Hmm.
And it said, get arrested on it.
What is the last time they had contact?
They were together.
Well, so Courtney.
they do an intervention for Kurt a few days before he's going to go to Exodus, they call it.
He flies down to L.A.
Okay.
They were together just a couple days before that.
She went down first.
I think it's the 26th of March.
She goes down to L.A.
With Francis.
And then he comes down, I believe it's March 30th, I believe, is the day he flies to L.A.
So it's a couple, it's the end of March.
Okay.
They see each other just days before that.
So how could she have gotten that note back up to Seattle?
Well, that's what, that's one of the, the mysteries.
Yeah.
Now, one of the witnesses says they saw the note in the house on the night of the murder.
They saw it.
Now, if that's true, then, that's why I say there's premeditation.
That note had to have already been written before she goes to L.A.
Sure.
It's not faxing it.
Right.
There's no, there's no email.
Right.
They're not, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
physically with someone hidden at the house.
So that's the best physical evidence.
Oh, there's way more than that.
Could you, Nate?
Could you give us a few examples?
Yeah, do you want to start into that?
Yeah.
The evidence?
Yeah.
Okay.
Physical evidence of her premeditation.
Talk about it just of her involvement in it.
Okay.
So, all right, let's just focus on Courtney Love for now.
Yeah.
Okay.
In all my cases, when I see deception, I turn the spotlight on you.
I talk about this and I don't take it off until I see something that really proves to me
and that never happens with her ever, not once.
Not in 30 years.
She constantly lied about everything.
She hid the witnesses.
She hid Callie DeWitt from Tom Grant.
She hid Dylan from him.
No one was ever interrogated.
Even the police never interrogated anyone.
Your husband.
Who are those people?
Tom Grant, Callie.
Tom Grant is the PI.
He's kind of a legendary figure from the case.
People are obsessed with him.
He was interviewed by Nick Broomfield.
he has a website Cobaincase.com or dot org.
He recorded Courtney.
He worked for Courtney.
But people think he's like a double agent.
He claims he didn't find the body at the house.
And he was actually there two days before.
Look, there's so much to it.
I'm going to just try to give your audience.
Really, like you said, if you have a younger audience,
they don't remember Kurt Dying.
It's in 1994.
There's been a lot of stuff that's happened.
But just if we focus on Courtney Love.
And I've already said this to some people is,
I'm not going after Courtney Love.
I'm not.
She's not there, right?
There's no check that she wrote, signed her name and said,
get rid of my ex,
my, get rid of my husband.
Right.
There's no proof of that.
She just received all of his musical royalties.
Overnight.
Yeah.
So she became a multimillionaire overnight.
But what I'm getting at is there's just a lot of deception by her lying to Tom
Grant,
lying to other investigators over the years.
There's a lot of blatant lies that she also sends up this guy, Eric Erlinson, from her band
hole who comes up to the house when Kurt's already been murdered.
He's there.
Do you want to know how many?
I'm going to tell you how many people were in the house when he was murdered.
You ready?
Eight.
Wow.
Eight.
And possibly one more, but we can't name it.
We don't know this person's name.
And none of them were interviewed.
None.
Wow.
That's unreal.
Years later, like the cops reopened.
it for like a second in like 97 or 98 and like interviewed one person. And it was like a joke.
It's it's it's really it's sad for Kurt Cobain. And that's why we're here today. This is what,
you know, I kill killers. This is what my books talk about. Okay. And we're here to kill the killers of
Kirk Cobain. Okay. Cool. So who are they? You want me to name them? Yeah. Sure. Dylan Carlson
and Daniel Clint Rich are the killers of Kurt Cobain. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Wow. Okay. Who are these?
And DC and DC. This is the mirror theory.
Who are these individuals?
Dylan Carlson was very good friends with Kurt and Courtney. He was a nanny.
Oh, no, he's not the nanny. That's Cali, Michael Callie DeWitt, and Renee Navarette.
They are the nannies who are heroin junkies.
Yeah.
But they're the nannies. So just wrap up.
For Francis. Their daughter.
Wow.
Dylan was in a band called Earth. He was a rocker. He was kind of known.
He was friends with Kurt.
kind of young he was younger than kurt um he was close to courtney he was a heroin junkie
he has interviewed in nick broomfield's documentary curt and courtney if you've ever seen that
and uh nick asks him do you know what happened to kurt and he just like kind of just
spaces out and just uh and bagged bagged all those years ago he was bagged but but because nick
Broomfield didn't know there were witnesses other than him being at the house.
He couldn't put it together.
He did this on Biggie and I solved, I like to think I solved the Biggie case.
Nick Broomfield, I'll say, I kind of know him.
I've talked to him before.
He's one of the best documentary filmmakers of all time ever.
He's investigative.
He did Biggie.
He did Curt and Courtney.
He was staring one of the killers right in the face.
And he knew that.
Dylan was allegedly the only one in the house.
No, there's eight people.
Right, and eight people, but I'm saying they, he was the only one that was interviewed.
He, by Nick Broomfield, he's one of the only people to be interviewed, yes.
Okay, so he was, and he was just friends, he was friends with Courtney and Kurt.
Was there an affair going on between him and Courtney?
No, I don't think so.
He was just a user.
He was just a smackhead, okay.
They all were heroin addicts.
Yeah.
I won't say Kurt was an addict because people get really,
off when I do this.
People try to say, oh, he was such an addict and he had such a high tolerance.
I don't believe that's true.
I don't believe he was that big of a heroin addict, they say.
Do you play in a rock band like that?
You can't be all smacked out playing these complicated progressions and singing.
And you just watch him when he plays even unplugged in Europe.
He's not all smacked out.
Maybe he did it in the morning or something.
But you can't do that.
The guy was a genius.
Yeah.
The guy was a musical genius.
Well, the Red Hot Chili Pepper's guitarist was a full-on dope shooter.
So I don't want to say it's impossible.
No, Jerry Garcia, too, they said was on heroin too.
Right.
But if you're that far gone, then, yeah, you can't be traveling around.
Yeah, right, right.
And he had some fullness to his face still, you know, like.
You wouldn't be able to hit the chords on the rhythm every time and rock out like that.
And also sing.
And sing. You can't do it.
So he was probably just using to get himself up.
Yeah.
Or on days off.
Recreational.
Look, I have a history with this world.
He used it.
So do you.
He had stomach problems too.
So he used it to the opioids to kind of.
He finally cured that eventually.
He had the wrong prescriptions.
He did have a stomach issue.
I know what you're talking about.
Now, they tried to kill him in in Europe with rohybnal.
See, that was a murder attempt we believe by Courtney Love and.
And Callie, not Dylan.
I don't think Dylan was in Europe.
Okay.
This was a few weeks before he had OD'd.
Courtney kept saying, see, I told you, he's suicidal.
He's suicidal.
They drugged him with rohybnoll.
There's a lot, man.
This is a lot.
We're not going to get to everything.
They drugged him with, okay.
So did he, okay.
He almost died in Europe.
Why do you think Callie had something to do with it?
Because he's there in the other room and Courtney's there.
Hmm.
And we believe, I believe he wrote this note, possibly in Europe.
She was like sleeping with Billy Corgan.
She was, she disappeared.
She went to London.
Right.
And then came back and she tells the story like, he just wanted to get laid.
And I should just, I just should have let him get laid with me.
Like they had a fight when she came back.
Right.
And he was, I think he penned this note possibly in Europe.
Interesting.
It was on the back of an I hop menu.
Whether he carries it, look, what I want to say to the,
audience and to you is we're not going to have all the answers.
It's just like the other cases I work.
We're not going to know every little.
Oh, he doesn't know where the note was written.
He wasn't murdered.
Like, they do that all the time.
He's got the time wrong.
Let's bring justice for Kurt.
Okay.
So you think the note was written?
Yeah, that makes sense.
Days or weeks before.
Okay.
And he's quitting Nirvana.
Absolutely.
And is he leaving in that note?
Does he talk about leaving Courtney?
well let's talk about that real quick so are they breaking up that's important to know yes okay so rosemary
carol is the attorney for both of them now she is recorded by tom grant and she also does other
interviews too saying that curt said take her out of my will okay a little bit of a period of time
before the murder wow now Courtney calls up um rosemary carroll and says find me the nastiest divorce attorney
you can find.
There that's going down.
Yes.
Fact.
Absolutely.
Witness by Rosemary Carroll.
Okay.
So she knew it was coming.
Oh yeah.
She knew the divorce was coming.
Okay.
They had a pre-up, I guess.
I don't know why they have a pre-up.
Like,
I didn't know if Kurt was really wealthy when they got married.
They weren't together that long.
Right.
I think it's like three or four years max.
Yeah.
Their child is very young.
Right.
Like, so maybe Kurt, I guess Kurt wanted a pre-up, I guess.
So there was issues.
She inherited everything overnight.
Right.
Okay.
So by the time they're in Europe and he's writing this note and she's going off to
London to fuck Billy Corrigan, she already knows the end is coming for their marriage.
He's got to go.
He's got to go.
Kurt's got to go.
Why do you think that their nanny, his name is again, what is his name?
Callie DeWitt.
Why do you think he would have gone along with Courtney?
Because when Courtney promises you free heroin for the rest of your life and a bunch of money.
And if you look also after the murder,
she buys somebody a house
she sends she gives another guy 30 grand
sends another one to rehab
she is paying people off
Mark Lanigan came forward
he was the singer for the screaming trees
he was a good friend of Kurtz
used to wear the dress with the lipstick
they used to all cross-dress
these guys were way ahead of their time too
he came forward saying yeah Courtney
helped me pay for my rehab
and then he knew that Dylan Carlson
was getting paid too
she's paying them off for years
right to cover it up
she made she was worth like 400 million he was worth like four million or something when he died
it was like the thing was like quadrupled or like just crazy his estate is crazy crazy okay so
this day people wear full jumpsuits of nirvana house moms of course of course the royalties
are just from the spins on the radio uh okay whatever they call aff track whatever they call
yeah um okay so so my point with Courtney Love wrapping up Courtney Love because I don't
harp on her. We need to focus on what happened that night.
We need to happen on the nanny and the accessories. The male nanny. And the witnesses.
All right. Anyways. Well, would you, you have two male nannies that are both heroin addicts.
Right. Think about that. Right. Yeah, they had two female nannies because those were in case C,
child protective services ever showed up. There's two women nannies too. There's four nannies.
So the two nannies, they're there. Look, all celebrities, you know this. They all have drug friends.
where they get their drugs from
that they know they can trust.
It's like the people with Dennis Hopper
making sure he doesn't kill himself on the set.
Well, it's just like OJ Simpson selling Coke, right?
There's people they trust.
Yeah.
So Kurt and Courtney trusted Callie and Dylan.
To bring them their heroin.
Yes, and to shoot with them.
And look, Kurt, I'm not saying Kurt didn't like Dylan.
I'm sure he did.
All these guys were musicians.
They all jammed out together.
They all traveled together.
Right.
You know?
Right.
And the witness was from Dylan's,
band. He was there too who we're going to talk about. Right. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. All right. So after the
European tour, um, they come back to, they do the intervention. Right. There's some Geffen.
They think Gold Mountain and Geffen are going to lose money because Kurtz just canceled Lollapalooza for
10 million. Right. Wow. So, but at this intervention, if everybody around him are also
heroin addicts, who's part doing this intervention? There's other, there's, is this like an
Interscope rep.
Yeah, I was going to say.
This sounds like a label.
In Gold Mountain, they were called.
Okay.
So they do this intervention.
Courtney goes down to L.A.
Kurt stays in Seattle.
Is it a fact that both, this is the house where Francis.
This is on Lake Washington.
They're in their house.
So this is their house.
Yes.
And there's eight people there?
Yes.
Possibly nine.
There's always so many people.
Okay.
And they're all, we can safely assume they're all.
drugs, to shooting up, drinking beers, smoking weed.
Now is Francis, she's with her mom in L.A.
But she actually lives at that house with them when they're in Seattle.
They said it was cold and dreary and no furniture.
They didn't live there that long.
They had a house in the Hollywood Hills too.
Okay.
So, um, look.
I'm shocked.
So that's why they had the two non-drug addict nannies, if in case child
protective services.
Because to put a kid around in that situation is.
They need to have females there.
That's insane.
I see. It's insane. They lived a dirty lifestyle. And I don't mean that in this bad way. There's a funny, not funny, but they call it the dirty little room where Kurt was found in the greenhouse. They say, oh, it's just a dirty little room. When they asked like Dylan Carlson, why didn't you look in the greenhouse for him? You were there for days. Why didn't an electrician? Because you wanted the electrician to find him. And you didn't want to find him because you knew where he was. So, but let me say this real quick. So when we get to this, we have to understand that Kurt's going to come back from Exodus rehab.
He's not sitting in the house and a bunch of people show up.
They're already there when he lands.
So that's part of the story, but we can, we'll get to that.
Okay.
We'll get to it.
We're here.
Well, if you want to talk about the murder?
Yeah, yeah, but what does that have to do?
Is that important to the story?
Yes.
The ex, him coming back.
Yes.
So that's why there's so many people in the house because they're doing.
He doesn't even know they're there.
Okay.
He comes home.
Look, they live a rocker lifestyle, right?
Right.
And, you know, these are his good friends.
And even the one witness, Joe, that we were going to talk about, he talks about Kurt, like, just an average guy.
Like, he doesn't even, when I first met him, I was fascinated by how he just talked about him.
I'm like, he's your neighbor, your buddy, he was a good guy.
And, you know, he wasn't a dick.
And, like, and I'm like, this is the most famous grunge rocker of all time, like, helped MTV become a thing.
Yeah.
And he's just talking about, yeah, you know, Kurt loved my band.
He was a fan of mine.
Wow.
He was a drummer.
Wow.
It's awesome, man.
This is one of the greatest true crime stories I've ever heard.
I've ever been a part of.
So, but yeah, if we want to dive into it, it's going to be dark.
Yeah.
Well, we definitely do.
Okay.
So, um, okay.
So you have these.
So now the scene is set.
What are the two female nannies, the real Filipino nannies?
I believe they're, I don't know if they're Filipino, but.
Probably.
We can safely assume.
Seattle.
dated this other guy that I'm going to talk about.
But are they in the where, why are they not at the house?
They're in L.A.
Okay, because they're always following with the baby.
Okay, that makes sense.
Okay, gotcha.
I don't know if both of them are in L.A.
I know one of them is for sure.
She's at the peninsula.
Eric Erlinson's there.
She's there.
Her other dealers there, that's what Tom Grant talks about in Soaked and Bleach.
If you watch the movie Soaked in Bleach, you can YouTube it.
They kind of play out this story.
So anyway, she plays a game with them.
Okay. So to walk us through the night of the murder.
Okay. Because now we have all the elements in place.
Kurt gets back from rehab.
He flies back from Exodus on April 1st.
And the clock's going to tick to April 2nd over midnight.
He's like on a red eye.
Supposedly with Duff McCagan from Guns and Roses, they sit next to each other.
Okay.
So they land, whether it's 1130, 1150, whatever.
By the time he gets to the house in the limo,
it is now April 2nd.
It's about 1 a.m.
He comes home and there's a bunch of people in this house.
Right.
Okay.
So now I'm setting the stage.
Shooting up, playing music,
smoking cigarettes, smoking weed, drinking beers.
He's like, what's up?
Now, he's not super pissed at first.
Now, remember, this is a culmination of the witnesses,
the statements, the authors, the investigate.
This isn't just me saying it.
This has been six months of my life every minute.
Copy.
And going undercover on these people doing Chris Todd stuff that would make your head turn backwards.
Okay.
So here's the story.
Comes home.
He's not that pissed at first.
He actually eats his last supper with Joseph Burns.
Wow.
That's who he ate like a TV dinner together.
Okay.
Joe tells the story.
His name is out there.
I can say his name.
He's a great guy.
He's going to make history.
And we are going to protect him.
and if anybody wants to mess with them, I wouldn't.
I'm going to warn you.
Okay.
Go ahead, please.
Sorry.
I have to say that.
So they're kind of hanging out.
Kurt most likely is going to do some drugs with them, right?
You know, so, but he wants them to leave.
He asks them to leave.
They don't leave.
Now, supposedly, per the witnesses, multiple witnesses,
per some of the investigation over the years when they met these people,
Kurt comes down to the basement where some of them are.
They're scattered. They're not all in the basement.
Says, get the F out of here, dude.
And he kind of directs it at Dylan Carlson.
Right.
Because Dylan's like kind of the...
He's the handler.
He's the ringleader.
Yeah.
It's the ringleader.
People there are his friends too.
Right.
Kurt turns around and is assaulted by Dylan and Daniel Clint Rich.
Those two assault Kurt.
and they begin to shoot him up with heroin.
That is preloaded.
So this is where another sign of premeditation.
Now, I'm not saying they were going to kill him in front all these people.
Maybe when they would leave, right?
But it's on.
It's on.
It's prepped.
And the witness says that.
Joe Burns says that the heroin was prepped.
I'm not going to say the exact witness who says this.
Okay.
Because Joe Burns technically is not witnessing the hot shutting.
Okay.
someone else's. Okay. That woman's name is Bonnie Dillard. Okay. And the other woman's name is Jennifer
Adamson. And they, have they given any testimony or just talk to you? They have told people and given
statements, yes. So they have a rig with heroin. I did speak to Bonnie once. I tried to help her. She wanted to,
she's hostile witness right now. Okay. So they have a rig with heroin already loaded. Two of them,
both arms. One of the arms that's hit twice, and I think one in the other, but one arm has much
multiple track wounds. But again, people, the pundits can say, well, of course he has track wounds.
Like, they're going to do that. But was he a shooter?
He has a lot. Yeah, he's a shooter.
They have a lot of heroin in him, 1.52 milligrams per liter. That's a lot.
It's a lot. People can die at 0.4. Right. Right. And he's, and he's been off of it for the last
you know, couple of days. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of. That's where, look, you're going to get comments
that they're going to talk about this 1.52 milligrams per liter.
They're going to hone in on this.
And they're going to try to tell you that, like, some heroin addicts going to come on your comments and go, I could do it.
I could do that.
Listen, sorry.
You talk way too much about what they're going to say and criticize.
Fuck them.
Fuck that and fuck them.
Okay.
Please give us the facts.
Sure, sure.
Blow our minds.
Sure.
And just give it up.
Give the rest over to the universe.
Sure.
So they hot shot him.
And he is basic.
We don't know if he's dead or not at this time.
Okay.
So through my investigation, I cannot confirm he's dead when they walk him to the greenhouse, carry him.
Now, the witness, the other witness, sees him be carried to the greenhouse, okay?
Eyewitness.
And he could be alive in the greenhouse.
Remember, when the gun goes off in his mouth, the blood comes out of the ear and there's a puddle of blood.
if he was dead for hours and hours,
they wouldn't bleed, right?
It'd be post-mortem.
The heart's not pumping.
Everything would, like, freeze up
and start to atrophy, et cetera.
So is he dead when the gun goes off in his mouth?
I don't know.
He could be alive.
Right.
Okay?
But he's pretty much like...
But he's incapacitated.
He's totally incapacistic.
Right.
So does the...
Sorry to cut you off.
Is the witness...
Does the witness statement that they carried him,
you know, they beat him off,
hot shot at him and then carried him to the greenhouse.
Does that cooperate with Joe Burns?
Yes.
Because Joe Burns is dating Bonnie Dillard.
That's his girlfriend.
I see.
Now, did you interview them together or did you separate them to make sure that their stories,
they couldn't like, you know, get together and get their stories straight first?
We have Joe Burns' full statements already on tape.
Right.
Bonnie Dillard is hostile.
I see.
So she does not, she will not come forward at this time.
Okay.
But I know from the investigation before I got involved that she had already come forward and corroborated that those people were there and that that's what happened in the basement.
She's not in the greenhouse.
Right. She's still in the base.
Yeah. Yeah. But that's important because, you know, you want to have at least two. If I'm if I'm a jury member and I want to have two witnesses saying the same thing.
Correct. You know what I mean?
Away from, yeah. And look, remember, it's 30 years. So they could talk.
about it.
Yeah.
And they weren't together much longer after that.
They broke up.
So they go their separate ways and it gets messy.
But so now Kurt's going to the greenhouse.
Now they also,
the witnesses also corroborate that Daniel Clint Rich is there.
There's other witnesses that say he did a soft confession to them.
I hot shot at Kirk Cobain in the year 2000-ish, 20 years ago.
Right.
One of the investigators and the authors connected the dots.
took them 20 years.
They didn't even meet the witnesses for 20 years almost.
And they connected the dots and they go, yeah, that guy was there.
And that blew their mind like, oh, damn.
So anyway, they go to the greenhouse.
Now the witness is going to hear a gunshot single shot,
about 30 to 40 minutes after the hot shotting.
Right.
So this is April 2nd.
This is the day Kurt was murdered.
It's not April 5th.
Right.
It's not April 8th.
Right.
Seattle PD, you can kick rocks.
Yeah.
It's April 2nd.
Okay.
And he is dead by about 4 a.m. on April 2nd.
And the staging of that most likely carries into the next day.
And I can talk about some of the cover-up and staging.
It's not like staging, lock the door, we're done.
Right.
They stage the next day too.
They go buy shells.
And that, I believe, is Callie DeWitt dresses like Kurt, either wearing a hat.
They have the long hair.
It's dyed.
I know, man.
It's crazy.
shells, gunshot shells?
Yes.
They go buy the shotgun.
I know.
Why?
I'll explain it.
Why?
So because two reasons.
All right.
We believe they already had shotgun shells at the house.
Kurt did him buy the gun.
Dylan did.
I have the receipt in his name.
Kurt did not buy the gun.
Dylan says Kurt bought the gun with him because Dylan's a liar.
So Kurt never bought the shotgun.
The day the gun was bought was the day.
Kurt flew to L.A.
Now, it's close enough, like, he's going to buy a gun minutes before he's getting on an airplane.
Maybe.
I'm not saying it's not humanly possible, but the receipts in Dylan's name.
Right.
It's not in Kurt's name, and there's no shells.
He used a, so he, he registered, because you have to give your information when you buy your.
Shotguns, you don't.
Interesting.
Handguns.
But he used, so he used a credit card to buy his shotgun?
I don't know how he paid.
I have the receipt from the gun shop.
Okay.
It's online.
Wow.
In Dylan's name.
So we can, can anybody go.
Anybody can get it.
Just Google.
Google Dylan Carlson, gun receipt, Kirk Cobain.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shotgun receipt.
Curse thing comes up.
Wow.
That's in the Seattle.
That's in the Seattle PD's files that they released.
Right.
So everyone has access to it.
Okay.
So Dylan Carlson bought the shotgun.
Kirk Cobain did not buy the gun.
Right.
I don't care what anybody says they can, whatever.
So anyway, like you said, moving on.
So.
and there's a lot of other details with the limo driver driving Kurt to the airport and says he gave him the shells.
It's insane.
Okay.
Like he carried the shells to the airport.
Anyway,
did the gun shop give him shells for free and it's not on the receipt?
Maybe.
Now, why,
why buy?
I'm getting that.
Okay.
Because he's trying,
they're trying to make it look like it was a suicide, one shot.
So, yeah,
explain what the,
what the method is.
It's complicated.
Yeah, what their mindset is buying shells after the,
remember, I don't know what they're,
they're kind of like,
they're not Navy SEALs.
Yeah.
They're not assassins.
Right.
That's what I told that this people.
So here's,
let me just get this out.
Okay.
Let's assume they have shotgun shells at Kurt's house for a 20 gauge.
Dylan's already got him,
whether the guy gave him to him for free or he had him,
whatever.
They're in the house.
They shoot him in the greenhouse with those shells that are already in the house.
Winchester,
double A,
um,
20 gauge.
It's a Remington Model 11.
That shell.
It's a yellow casing.
Okay.
All right.
Now, in the morning, he goes out in a cab.
The taxi cab driver says it looked like someone that didn't belong in the neighborhood.
But he won't say it's Kirk Cobain.
He's Ethiopian or something like they don't know if he even knows, but he will not positively ID.
I see.
It's Cobain.
Okay.
That is not Kirk Cobain.
He is dead.
Okay.
That is Michael Callie DeWitt.
Right.
He goes out, he wants to get a receipt for shotgun shells and load the gun
and have a receipt with the box of shells because they find it by Kurt's foot in a bag.
And I want to point out something about this too.
But the gun source closed.
So when he goes out, he has to go to a diner first or a restaurant wherever he goes.
And a witness says they see who they thought was Kirk Cobain years later because they put the timeline together.
Oh yeah, it's all a mystery.
They all think Kurt's dead on the 5th.
So they all fall in line with like Kurt's.
I saw Kurt eating breakfast.
It's not Kurt Cobain.
It's Cali.
Then when the gun shop opens at like 10, 1030, then he goes to buy the shells.
Now he comes back.
Maybe it's 12, noon, 11, whatever.
Now they load the gun with those shells.
Watch.
And they remove the shells out of the box.
Whatever they do with those, bury them in the,
the yard, throw them in the garb it, whatever they do.
They need to put one shell beside him that's already been fired.
Right.
So they need to make up for that shell, remove a shell out of the box.
Because in the, in the autopsy, they find 22 shells in the box.
There's three missing.
Two in the gun.
One fired.
Yeah.
I see.
Okay.
So they need the proof to show, and it's in a bag by Kurt's foot.
Anyone can see the photo.
How does the shell?
How do you fire?
how would they explain that firing one shell
Kurt fires a shell into his mouth
fires now they load up the other two bullets into the gun
I see but what is how does it neatly land
after the gun goes off staged
how does it neatly land in a bag? It doesn't neatly land
no no it's not in the back the the other spent shells are in a bag
gotcha got you spent shell is on the wrong side of the ejection chamber
he's got the gun upside down right now he's lefty
but he's holding it with his left hand and they said he used
his right trigger. Then they tried to say, well, normally a lefty would use this, whatever,
that doesn't prove it. I'm just telling you. Right. He's got his left hand on the barrel.
Right. They say uses his right thumb. The gun's upside down. So where should the ejection chamber?
Where should the bullet be? On the other side. It's on the wrong side. So this is like rudimentary
forensics work. Yes. That the whole Seattle PD just fucked up, ignored, overlooked. Yes. It's just
massive incontence. Then when they see it later, that's why Tom Grant to a lot of these people
is a hero. So he has to have credit for doing what he did. He risked his life. They could have whacked him
for saying Courtney was doing it. He has 50 hours of tapes of her. He says that too. The bullets
on the wrong. It should have ejected to Kurt's right. It's on his left. It means they stuck it in
bang. Then they turn it around and then they stage it. And he says, oh, there's a death grip. That's not
true. When they die, people don't do it. They don't seize up all the time. That's not true. People die. They could die. They just fall. They don't like, they don't go like, you know, in boxers. They like some people freeze when they get knocked out. Well, your nerves are going off though as you're getting shot. It's different for everybody in a way. It's not true what he said. Right. He tried to say that like that's why his hand is gripping. Dude, it's staged. They wrap his fingers around. Now watch. There's no fingerprints on the gun. None. Not even Kurtz. Not Kurtz.
It's wiped down.
It's wiped down.
There's no fingerprints on the gun case.
Wow.
That's in the room.
There's no fingerprints on the shells.
Same.
They test some of the shells two years later and find no shells.
I was find no fingerprints.
There's no fingerprints on the pen that's stabbed through the suicide note, not even Kurtz.
Wow.
Right.
So there's all these.
Then the two heroin needles have caps on them that are in the cigarette.
garbox next to him. Like, so he shot up and he put the caps back on him. Right. Right. And then he grabbed the
guy. This is supposed to be a man distraught in like 15 seconds. This is supposed to be a man distraught on his last,
you know, his root beer. He's got the can of bark's root beer. Like, so they stage that. Okay. So he comes back
on April 2nd. Yes. The real date of the murder while April 1st, late, you know, late April 1st.
Yeah. Like clicks over. Yeah. So on April 2nd, he goes and buys the shells, comes back to the house.
are all eight people still there or have people left?
You're talking about Dylan.
Yes.
Yeah.
After he buys the shells, you know, dress like Kurt, he comes back to the house.
That's on April 2nd.
Yes.
He, they stage it up.
Start finishing it up.
Are other people still in the house?
Yes. All of them are still there.
Now, what is the, but they stay out of the green house?
What does Joe Burns say about them?
Like, wow, I know you're on drugs, but you just witnessed the biggest rock star being murdered by his friends.
And let's name them all right now.
Okay, great.
This is the perfect time.
We need to name them because I'm not going to be able to talk about them all.
Okay.
There's too much.
Okay.
So, okay.
Let's just start from the top.
Okay.
So the two killers are Dylan Carlson, Daniel Clint Rich, and there's a third person with them.
Joe cannot remember his name.
Okay.
There's other people that think they know who it is.
I can't.
I don't know.
Okay.
So I just focus on the two.
The other six accessory witnesses.
are Jessica Hopper, Michael Kelly DeWitt, Renee Navarette, Joe Burns, Bonnie Dillard, and Jennifer
Adamson.
Okay.
That's all of them.
All right.
And they remain in the house, even though they've just witnessed a murder.
Now, let's say who witnessed.
Bonnie Dillard and Jen Adamson witnessed the hot shotting of Kurt Cobain.
Yeah.
Joe Burns witnesses the movement of Kurt to the greenhouse and here's the gunshot.
Mm.
Is he in the greenhouse?
I hope he's not.
Did he lie to me?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe I've seen it before.
So now the real witnesses to the staging are Michael Kelly DeWitt, Dylan Carlson, Daniel
Clint Rich.
Absolutely.
Those are the three absolute accessory slash killers.
Okay.
So everybody's witnessed something.
Everybody knows that Kurt's been murdered.
We can safely assume that.
They pretend like no one says it.
Because when you talk to, when you get the testimony on tape and you also know the history of what Bonnie says to, they all kind of don't talk about it.
They stay in the house and do drugs for the next four days.
Okay.
So everybody's on a binge and that's why we think that they, they are just.
They're waiting for the police.
They're waiting for the cops and everybody's getting their story straight.
Probably.
Some are leaving and coming back.
They start to, when Tom Grant comes up there, it's, he flies up on.
Wednesday, April 6th, the clock ticks over again.
He goes to the house on April 7th.
No one's there.
So they've all scattered on Wednesday.
Remember, the killed on Saturday.
Courtney says, hires Tom Grant on Sunday.
She knows he's dead.
She hired now.
Tom Grant.
So she has an alibi.
She has to have somebody see her not be in.
And Tom Grant is the journalist.
He is the PI.
The PI.
Now, why would she hire a PI?
She calls him out of the phone book.
Okay, yeah.
Fate.
Why would, now why would she send Tom Grant up to Seattle?
She doesn't send him up until the Wednesday.
He doesn't go up because he has no jurisdiction.
He's a PI in California.
He can't do crazy stuff up in Washington.
Okay.
Now, like I said, there's a lot to it.
But in short is, I believe on the third, Courtney Love needs a PI to come over any sucker, anybody.
to so she can start someone's using my husband's credit cards that's what she says because someone is they have his credit card they did they had an allowance callie did okay so someone and she's using the card too it's complicated but and that begins tom grant's journey that he still talks about to this day he wrote a book why did he say what did he say the reason was that she gave him for sending him up to to you know start investigating
getting hurt. What's like the official reason?
Okay. He doesn't go up there for three days.
Did he want to go up there if I was a PI and you hired me?
Where's the first place? I'm going to look for your rich, famous husband. I'm going to get
on the next plane and go find him. He doesn't do, hold on. He doesn't do that. He stays in L.A.
He starts working the phones. He hires a guy up in Seattle to start taking pictures of the house and the
drug dealers. Courtney's feeding him all this stuff. So my point is, I don't know why he didn't go up.
My question is, what did Courtney tell Tom Grant that she needed him to do? What was the reason?
Who's using the credit cards. Okay. That's the reason. That's the official reason. Then later he goes,
I'm going to go up there. And she goes, save the American icon Tom as he's exiting to get on a plane.
I see. That's that famous line she said.
she knows he's dead.
Okay.
She's known he's been dead for days.
And she,
and she wanted him to go up there and have him.
Find the body.
Find the body.
Because everybody in the house,
if they find it,
you're already a suspect.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
So,
think of it this way too.
Let me,
not to cut you off.
I'm trying to squeeze it all in.
It's okay.
This is making sense now.
This is we're building the whole picture.
So think about this way.
Kurt's dead in the greenhouse for multiple days.
The people are in the house for multiple days.
Why don't they find?
find him because they know where he is and they don't want to find him.
He's above the garage.
Not that big of a house.
You throw a rock.
No, it's not.
Yeah.
And Tom Grant then eventually says, I didn't go check the greenhouse.
He's in the cover up.
Hang on.
Okay.
I know, man.
It's crazy times.
Hang on.
I'm not sure about that.
But so Tom Grant goes up on Wednesday night.
It clicks over into Thursday morning, April 7th.
Okay.
So April 7th.
is the official day.
He and Dylan.
Okay.
Together go into the house.
Right.
Dylan meets him and they go to a cafe.
And Dylan's got a key.
Yeah, but like they have to turn the alarm off.
So they have to call Courtney, turn the alarm off.
They come through a back window.
Something weird like that.
I would think he does have a key.
But supposedly they come through the back window.
That's the story from that.
Gotcha.
And that's when they find Kurt and call the-
They don't find the Kurt.
Kurt's found by the electrician on Friday, April 8th.
Wow.
That's what I'm telling you.
It's a full six days, five and a half, six days.
That none of them find them.
Right.
And they're in the property.
Was his body like decomposing by then?
Can it decompose after five days?
Yes, it can, but he is fully clothed.
So the pictures you see, you see his hand.
There's famous photos.
Yeah.
He's fully clothed.
I don't know how much decomposition there is.
Liver mortis is the pooling of blood.
Is there?
I don't know.
They cremated him after like a couple days.
Right.
The autopsy was done.
And then they, you know, my point.
is supposedly there's a photo of his face.
He doesn't look. He's not, he's not going to be skeletal.
He's in a greenhouse, which has a weird temperature too.
Right.
Remember. So it's like moist and wet in there.
Right.
It's literally a greenhouse.
Yeah.
So people try to, when I started talking to researchers and all this stuff,
they would argue with me kind of about like, he would have been way decommant.
He died on the fifth.
You're saying he died three days.
Bro, it's not going to decompose that much more in three days.
I agree.
Relax.
Yeah.
And it's in a control.
controlled environment. Right. He's not outdoors. He's not outdoors. He's not in the desert.
Right. He's in a warmer area. He makes you decompose faster than cold. Okay. Right. Right. Yes.
So he's in a greenhouse, which is weird, right? But my point is, they don't find him because they don't want to find him. They can't find him. They're suspects. Why they stayed there? I don't know. They should have all left. I don't know why they're staying there. They're shooting up. Maybe Courtney sent money up. Maybe the credit cards are cashing them out.
So after after the whole story's blown, the world knows Kurt's dead.
On April 8th, he's found by the electrician because Courtney Love tells them to go do wiring in the greenhouse.
She purposely puts somebody to go.
She's getting frustrated.
It's been days and days and days.
Can you guys go do some work on my greenhouse?
Okay.
But, okay, so what did Tom tell her on the seventh?
He called her and said,
It's not here.
It's not here.
Right.
And he's pretending like he didn't go in the greenhouse or in the garage.
He said it was raining and it was dark.
The garage is next to the house.
Could it be possible that he wasn't part of the cover up that he was just incompetent?
Then you have to say he's complete incompetent.
Right.
Moron.
Incompetency.
So he's just being paid by Courtney Love a large sum of money to make it look like,
she was trying to.
Correct. Right. Now you're getting it. Okay.
She's looking for him. She needs a pawn. He's the one that got picked out of the yellow pages.
And that's it. That's fate. He's kind of goofy. Like he supposedly they told him about the witnesses.
And he goes, no, that's not true. So they kind of told him a few years ago because people knew about
Bonnie and Joe. Yeah. Okay. So I'm not sure that that totally.
matters. I think the witness
to who, to this whole
conspiracy, I mean, look, the Seattle
police were literally that incompetent.
So it's possible that this guy...
I got a bomb show for you with the police too,
if you want to. Yeah, yeah, please.
Okay. So during the week, the witnesses
say the police show up
in plain clothes.
And they say it's Antonio Terry,
Detective Terry, who was killed.
He is dead. He was killed
in a random drug shooting
on the highway, like a
month two later, they thought it was related.
Supposedly, he shows up to the house on like, it's either Tuesday or Wednesday.
I don't know if he sees Kurt in the Greenhouse.
I don't know.
But something's weird.
And they say they see them at the house.
Wow.
And they don't report that.
The police didn't report.
Why did they show up?
Just drug, drug activity.
Courtney's telling them to go over there, see what's going on.
Make sure.
I don't know.
That's one of the.
Well, they would have that, they would have that, that recording of the phone call.
That's what I'm saying. They don't have it. They, they covered that up. Okay. So what are the police,
before we get into Joe Burns and, you know, his, his testimony, effectively, when his body's
found, walk us through how the Seattle police dealt with that. Sure. So I think his name's Gary Smith.
He, like, calls the radio station. Like at the same time, he calls the,
the police. So the radio is blasting it out in real time. Kurt Cobain committed suicide.
Like before anything's even happening. So anyway, police come. They seal it off. It's a big scene.
They have a woman there. She's like the PR lady. And they're just already yelling suicide.
There's a gun. We have a suicide note. And literally by the end of the day, they say it's a suicide.
They've not sent one toxicology report. They have not invested.
investigated anything.
They have not interviewed anybody.
That was at the house.
Who's at the house?
All the people that were at the house.
They know they're there.
Whoa.
Hang on.
You said all these people were gone.
They know that people were at living with Kurt at the house.
Like Dylan, Renee, Callie.
But they all happen to be gone when the electrician.
They're all gone when they find when the electricians there.
So I'm saying they didn't interview anybody.
I see.
Okay.
And literally even after that.
They didn't interview them still.
Right.
And that would have been any easy thing to figure out.
Did you hear Kurt shoot himself?
Then they make up stories.
Then Jessica Hopper says,
Kurt sat on the end of my bed and sang a song,
Skinhead Girl, because I had my head shaved.
That's a lie.
That's a lie.
That's an accessory to murder.
If you help someone before,
during, or after,
that's an accessory to murder.
Right.
She is blatantly lying,
saying Kurt saying to her in the morning.
He is dead.
he's been killed and she was dating Cali and that's why she's man I'm telling you man these people are
polluted their karma is messed up uh so yeah uh they ship his body off is there any like further
are there any higher ups in the Seattle homicide division that that try to step in detective Cameron
now they had some weird rule excuse me that beat cops could decide if it was a suicide
at the crime scene.
Beat cops.
I don't know why they have this policy.
You can look it up.
It's true.
So the detectives say,
the beat cops say it's a suicide.
So it's a suicide.
Then they induce some half-ass investigation.
Cameron's the big name that you'll always see.
Harvey Levin flies up with Tom Grant.
They go meet them.
And they say, are you looking at this as a murder at all?
I've seen enough suicides to know this.
He gets all, like, defensive.
Who's Harvey Levin?
From TMZ.
Right.
Part of the story
because he went with Tom Grant.
Tom Grant was like murder, murder, murder,
and this is confusing.
And I don't know if he's trying to get fame from it.
I don't know what Tom Grant's doing at this point.
By saying it's a murder.
Courtney's involved.
She's not even there, dude.
Like she's in L.A.
You saw her.
But if you're trying to,
you see the problem with that is,
if you're trying to tie Tom Grant to the conspiracy
to have this is a murder,
then why would he be shouting murder?
I can't explain it all.
Pointing the figure at Courtney Love.
I didn't think they're in on it.
I didn't think Tom Grant was in on it up until a week ago.
Okay.
Literally.
Okay.
Can you explain why?
Because I just, as I keep deep diving and I had new sources come forward, new researchers, new fans,
started to come to me, tell me their stories about the teeth of Kirk Cobain about
Steve Albini saying, Kurt was murdered, his old producer from in utero.
like there was all these things
and then they started telling me about Tom Grant
and I'm like God that kind of makes sense
how could a PI not go to the greenhouse
he's a PI
it's right when you pull in the driveway
you're staring at it
so to me I'm like oh it's a cover up
there's no way he would not look there
if he was a cop too
he was like a sheriff for like a year
he got fired yeah
come on man let me ask let me just ask it to you
okay you're Tom Grant
you got paid
couple grand. You're trying to find
this famous rocker.
You're going to be the hero, man.
If you find his body,
you're not going to look in the garage in the greenhouse.
Aren't you going to look everywhere on the property?
I don't care if it's dark. I don't care if it's raining.
It's next to the house.
That's why. So my gut tells me
something's wrong.
Okay. Okay. So
what does Courtney do?
She does the pity party,
reads the suicide.
suicide letter to the public over MTV or the radio.
You can look that up.
Right.
And she's just crying.
And she's now Tom's asking to interview Callie and Dylan.
And every time he tries to interview him, because he thinks it's a murder, he does.
In a way, supports us supposedly, they will, they dodge them.
They start flying out of town.
And what about Callie and Dylan?
They're never interviewed by the cops?
No.
To this day.
Correct.
That's so crazy.
Now, what about the official Filipino nannies, we'll call them?
I don't know what happened.
They're two white girls.
I don't know if they were really ever.
No one was interviewed.
No one was interrogated.
And if someone wants to prove me wrong, go ahead.
It's fine.
If they say, oh, they were.
But of the nine people, none of them were.
The other nanny, maybe one, but like, like, crazy.
It's so fucking crazy.
Now, in the wake of this, when does Courtney love,
get the money.
Right away.
So the will gets executed.
Next of kin.
Next of kin.
Her and the daughter right away.
Right away.
Like within weeks.
Whatever probate has to do, it's immediate.
And then she goes and buys...
She pays them off.
She buys a guy a house.
Bys the guy a house.
Do we have proof of that?
Yes.
We have proof.
Not that maybe the money came from her.
We have proof that the guy that had no money
bought a house in Tarzana.
Right. What in the wake in the years since, the decades since this, are all of the people that were in the house when the murder happened? Are they still alive?
Jen Adamson is dead. She is the sister of McCauley Culkin, the child actor. She's half sister. She's the daughter of Kit Culkin, who is Kieran and McCauley's father. She died of a dirty heroin shot in 2000, whether it's a hot shot, dirty heroin or OD.
D, she dies, everybody else is alive.
Dylan, Renee, Callie, Daniel, all of them are.
And they remain in the Northwest.
Jessica Hopper's a journalist in Chicago, works for Courtney to this day.
Wow.
Yep.
And are they, the rest of them are in, on drugs still?
I don't know if they are.
I think, from what I understand, Dylan has bad kidneys or has a health issue.
He could die.
Joe's not going to live much longer.
Joe has health issues.
The others seem to be pretty cleaned up.
Renee dated Chloe Savigny, the actress.
Renee's good-looking kid.
He dated her for a couple years or so.
He's kind of known.
Callie DeWitt's known.
He's a designer, I think, in L.A.
A couple of them still live in L.A.
Okay.
You know, I tried to help them.
I tried.
You know, and, you know, Chris Todd comes knocking.
I already got you.
I already beat you.
I wonder what the, what staying silent.
does or doesn't do for them.
You know what I mean?
After this, there's not going to be,
they're going to probably have to comment.
So you think Joe, this interview,
now Joe Burns, now 2024, 30 years later,
a full 30 years later.
He finally talks.
This guy, Joe Burns, the rocker,
the heroin addict, friends of Kurt.
20 Joe Burns in the country.
So there's Joseph Burns, J-O-S-E-F.
Joseph Burns, the drummer from Earth.
He comes.
forward. Who's the first person he approaches with this confession?
There was a gentleman. I can't say his name because he's been going off the rails lately.
There's a lot of groupies. There's a lot of investigators. I thank all of them for what they've done.
I'll be the sword. They are the ones who showed me the map of where the treasure was.
Joe Burns and Bonnie Dillard met an author and another investigator who is outside of the country.
and those two people met them first.
Okay.
And they started to squeal.
Got it.
They didn't know they were being recorded
and they didn't know what they were going to do with it.
But supposedly they were going to make a documentary.
And they wanted to come forward, Bonnie and Joe.
And if they got paid, great,
but they kind of like, this was during COVID, I think.
Okay.
And so we fast forward four years now.
Yeah.
And then I was lucky.
and I'm grateful for the person.
I was introduced this through a private investigator
who asked me to look at it with him.
And you think he got that tip from the people in Europe?
Okay.
Not Europe, one in Europe and one in America.
Okay.
But they together went, it's hard to explain.
The PI, someone had approached the PI on Facebook
and says, do you want to solve Kirk Cobain's murder?
He responded, absolutely.
and then this guy, not one of the two people, someone close to them,
because this is how it happens, man, it's the people talk.
And he started to tell the story.
Then he introduced them to those two people.
Okay, gotcha.
So.
Then he called me and goes, you're Mr. 90s.
Yeah.
Do you want to do it?
And I was like, I was a suicide.
I had no clue what I was stepping in.
Wow.
When did you finally meet, Joe?
I finally got to.
to talk to Joe for the first time probably two, three months ago.
Okay.
So this took a long time after years.
Why did it take so long for him to talk to you?
At first, he was afraid of me and wouldn't talk to me.
So we had to use the other guys, the two guys, the key guys, as handlers to bring him.
And then I had to basically, basically offered to write his book and to do a documentary and to change his life and to help him.
The interview that he actually did online that people can look up.
We'll even maybe put a cutaway, Brian.
Yeah, it's on YouTube.
We'll put a cutaway, a snippet so our fans can see what he looks like.
If you want, if they let you be careful with the copyright issues.
I don't know.
There's other people involved.
Just be careful.
We can just say it.
It's on there.
They can go look up Joe Burns.
Cobain.
Cobain and it'll pop up.
Yes.
And it's a cool video.
Now, who are those people that interviewed him?
There's multiple people involved.
Yeah.
And I don't want to say they're not.
names. I am close to them and I'm willing to help them because those people, I didn't fly there
and interview them. Right. They kind of did it behind my back a little because they knew once Chris
Todd grabbed it, right? They kind of salivated and just ran, which is okay. But can they watch like how
long is that interview? Can they basically get two hours of him? Okay. So and does he say everything that
he tells you? No. Okay. So tell us what he told you and how long you guys talked for. I still need to
get one more bit of information out of him because he told me he's withholding something from me.
Okay. Which is the trigger man. Okay. Okay. But what what can you tell us that he told you thus far?
Everything I just basically said. Okay. Yeah. There's nothing. That's where does he, where did he say he went
as they, as they, when they knew that they needed to get out of the house? First of all, does he say,
Courtney Love, tip them off, that, hey, this guy is coming up from LA.
Courtney Love tipped off Callie that Tom is coming up.
Okay.
And Joe knows that for sure.
They all know that.
They all know that.
Courtney admitted that to Tom.
And Tom admits that, too, that she said, oh, I won't tell anyone.
And then, but I told Callie, he won't tell anybody.
Where did they say, where did Joe go after they all left the house?
I am not exactly sure where they all go after.
Some fly out.
Jessica Hopper flies to Chicago, Minnesota.
Cali, I believe, goes to rehab in Arizona.
He leaves, she flies out.
Everyone goes back to L.A., I believe.
I think Joe and Bonnie lived in Seattle.
So they somehow just stay in Seattle.
Okay, and they were dating.
They were dating.
All right.
And they were users and dealers.
Does he express, like, the gravity of how they were feeling?
Or are they all in such a deep heroin state that they're all kind of just numb?
It's a good question.
And I was all over him about.
that. I will say this, Joe has a hard time being coherent and remembering this event. This took a long
time for me to get this out of him. And he jumbles the days. He thinks like it's the third.
He doesn't know what day the murder really was. It's, it's sad. Okay. The guy's, he's kind of fried.
How can we believe him then? Because I use the entire investigation. I'm not just, not just about
you never do that.
But he tracked, but basically what he said.
He corroborates. He's there. He corroborates.
Bonnie's there. He corroborates. They're all there.
He corroborates the killers.
Show up and start acting weird.
And he's like, what's going on? Something's going on.
Like so.
When did he, when does he say the killers show up?
Like how far before Cobain gets there?
We don't know. At first he told me.
And I'm sorry, do they know that Cobain is flying in, flying back to Seattle from Exodus?
Yep.
They're tucked off by Courtney.
Okay, they do know that.
Okay.
They think he might be in L.A.,
but I think she probably says he just skipped Exodus
because he called her and left the message.
I'm at Elizabeth.
Here's the number.
There's just so many details that'll make your head spin.
But the point is they know he's coming.
And now...
But they don't know what's...
The other people in the house don't know what's about to happen to them.
Correct.
The killers don't tell them.
Correct.
Okay.
Now, Joe gives two different stories.
The first story was everyone was there, but then he would vacillate.
And then it was Dylan and Daniel Clint Rich showed up without a car,
meaning they didn't park there.
They somehow walked in.
So I don't know if they're all there or they'd show up after.
Either way, it doesn't really matter.
Okay.
So, but good.
So they didn't know the killers show up last.
If they show up like that.
Yeah.
And they know that Cobain is coming in.
He'll be there in a couple of hours.
They all start getting high.
When you see your friend, your friend, Kurt Cobain, being assaulted,
why did nobody step in to try to help him?
The women see it.
Right.
Are they screaming?
Women usually scream.
I don't know because Joe's not downstairs.
Right.
He's not in the basement.
Bonnie needs to come forward.
And so he only saw the body being carried.
out like kind of like think like NFL guys carrying somebody off a field right over the shoulder
like you know like you're carrying them off what did he say he thought was happening when he saw
that he says just to stick up for joe too for the sadness of the story for him and the guilt
I should have done something he's like those guys were pussies I should have done something
I was with the hell's angels and you know I shot guns and I I should have done something they
kind of stop him. He's trying to follow.
He's kind of like what's going on.
And as they go, the guy, one of them turns around and is like, stops them from going
out of the house. I see. I see. And where are the other men besides those two?
I don't know if Jessica Hopper witnessed this. She might not be in the basement.
I cannot prove if Callie DeWitt and Renee Navarette are in the basement.
Okay.
They may be. The original story was that they were in the basement.
Right.
It's possible. But for me, I just know it's,
Gotta be with Bonnie and Jen
because I know something secretive about them.
Okay.
So possibly the other men didn't see
correct being walked into the greenhouse.
Just maybe it was just Joe.
Correct.
But the staging, they are involved.
They all know he is dead.
Hmm.
Wow.
So they're all accomplices to murder.
They're all guilty.
Accessories.
Accessories to murder.
So.
Or witnesses, like we said,
there's a blurred line here.
Yeah.
Now Joe's thing is what we want to do is,
we don't expect the police to reopen the case.
I'm not, I've already spoken to the Seattle PD.
I'm not talking to them again.
They want to do something.
Go ahead.
You can find my number, okay?
What we are doing is we will have a prepared statement for Joe as a whistleblower.
He had the right under the Fifth Amendment to remain silent.
He was not interrogated.
He did not obstruct justice.
He was never interviewed.
He has the right to remain silent.
Okay.
He is not an accessory.
He is.
a witness and he is whistleblowing for Kirk Cobain.
What do you think this will do if this can really get out, you know, they can, you know,
some some real outlet will just really blow this up.
It's so hard to make anything stick in the zeitgeist and especially something that happened
30 years ago, even if it was Kurt Cobain, right?
Right, they could put an article out and no one cares.
You know, it's crazy.
But what do you think this will do?
due to like Francis, Francis Bean.
She was in SoCal.
Knowing that her mother may have had something to do with this.
I say it this way.
This is truly how I feel about Courtney.
Courtney, I don't blame you for it.
What do you mean?
She orchestrated it.
I'm going to jump on Johnny because he just interrupted me.
Who cares?
I love when they say that.
Who cares?
This guy's ripping this guy.
They're morons.
That's a great question to interrupt you on.
If she, why do you not blame the bitch that you claim spearheaded the whole goddamn conspiracy?
Okay.
That doesn't make any goddamn sense.
Okay.
Can I?
Can I?
Is it just me?
No, it's okay.
But now it's my rebuttal.
Sure.
Okay.
Your honor or lawyer.
Okay.
Courtney, I do not blame you for the murder of Kirk Cobain.
I think maybe you might have whispered to them.
Maybe in the heat of the moment you did want it to have.
happen. Maybe you were part of the Rohybnol. Maybe you did. I don't care. I have to focus on the people
that are at the house that are physically doing it. I'm not saying I'm either for her or against her.
I'm just trying to say as for 30 years, everyone has said her name over and over again. Just focus on
Dylan and Danny and the people in the house. Those are the ones first. Whatever Courtney wants to make a
statement. She's wealthy. She has fame. She can do whatever she wants. She has PR people. If she wants to
make a statement, she will. I did not come here to go after her. I kill killers. That's what I do.
Okay. I can never prove she paid them to murder Kurt Cobain ever. Unless somebody came forward and
could prove it to me. Well, but motive is. Back to Francis.
Motive is important though. So. Well, they want Kurt.
too free heroin maybe they uh you know he pissed him off by saying get the hell out of the house
maybe dylan wanted to get rid of him i don't know no no no but if it's if we're going to believe
there's a hot shot ready to go then there's premeditation then there's premeditation i vacillate because i
i try to cover as many of the bases i don't want to like my point with francis bean is this she's
going to make a comment she can come forward she can do what she want i'm sure she has suspicion
that her dad was right okay albini thought he was i'm sure davy thought he was i'm sure davy
Grohl and Chris Nova Selich probably think he was murdered.
Right.
But in the public eye, and look, it's like, you know, it's, it's hard to deal with.
It's a, it's a wound that they don't want to reopen.
Right.
I get it.
But this is what I do and I need to whistleblow for Kurt Cobain for his family.
He has other family members.
His mom died.
Wendy's gone.
He had the grandfather.
I think he passed.
One of the uncles is still alive.
I can't remember if Kurt's father might be still.
alive. And, you know, this is a big picture. This is, there's millions of fans. And for me,
what really drives me is they just did this thing where they said Kurt unalived himself at the
rock and roll museum in Seattle or something for him. Stop. Stop. We went to many people, I did. And so did
some of my investigators to many people. When we said, we believe Kurt was murdered, we're going to
prove it. We got nothing but
attitude called a bunch of names.
Why? Because we're sticking up for Kirk Cobain.
What's your motive to say he killed himself?
Why do you keep harping on that? And other people kill
himself because of Kurt. Right.
He's made the poster child. And I want to say this.
There's a, hopefully I remember these two quick things.
There's really not any suicide. You could maybe show me one
where you leave a receipt to a gun and a receipt to the bullets at the
crime scene. I've never really seen or heard that.
Right. Okay. And I looked up musician suicides. I found two. Michael Hutchins and the guy from
the prodigy. And even Hutchins is they don't even know if that was a suicide.
Joplin didn't commit suicide. Morrison didn't. Hendricks didn't. Okay, these were ODs or
accidental ODs. Most of these rockers do not off themselves.
Sure. Bottom didn't kill himself. Cliff.
Cliff didn't kill him.
Like, these are accidents or drug overdoses.
So to say, Kirk Cobain worked his ass off playing an Olympia in Portland and Seattle, right?
Going through three drummers, four different band names.
Right.
You mean to tell me he had a daughter?
He's just going to off himself?
Right.
I don't think so.
I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
He loved his music.
He was a very dark dude.
He was a very dark depressive dude, though.
Which doesn't help us with the investigation.
There's toys.
He's sticking the toy guns in his mouth.
There's those famous pictures like that.
That doesn't help us.
The note that says,
I'm a death rocker.
And I can't imagine my daughter,
people thinking, you know,
or my daughter thinks everybody's going to be good to her.
And is she safe?
And that just drives me nuts.
That's in his letter.
So,
but like this guy made a good point,
this researcher saying that.
Why would you offer yourself if you're at the peak?
Yeah, he might leave Nirvana.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, a lot of these artists, I'm not saying artists don't kill themselves.
What I'm saying is, I don't think he was at that point to do that.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't either.
It doesn't, but, you know, people, Chris Cornell, you know what I mean?
Like literally on top of the world.
Right.
Although I think you actually-
Was he a suicide?
Uh, yeah.
Brutal suicide.
Really?
Okay.
He was off his.
But, you know, I actually think.
Elliot Smith, maybe murdered, not a suicide.
I actually think you kill your suicide.
like Anthony Bourdain, for example, when you're on top of the world.
Because you got nothing else to live for.
And all the high from the 80s and 90s, the come up is the most fun.
Like, I'm getting ready to kill myself because we've made it on the show with the podcast.
I'm not saying it's not possible for sure.
But, like, I do think people on the upswing have less of a reason to kill themselves than people
that are already, like, you know, have been famous for decades at the top of their field,
can't really top their best work.
Like Cornell, you're saying, like it's kind of the, it's over.
Like he's been fucking rich for so long and Soundgarden.
How do you top the early Soundgarden albums and the audio slave and shit like that?
But anyways, this is all kind of just.
We never know what someone could really do in general.
Yeah, yeah.
And he was just saying it just doesn't add up.
Sure, sure.
No, none of it does.
It doesn't.
It doesn't add up.
And the police work is so sketchy and fucked up.
And yeah, there's huge, glaring mass of holes.
And I'm not a conspiracy guy.
and I but the reason so me bringing you on the show is not to make light of anything it's because
I think there's real veracity to this is there a world where or have you is there any evidence
that could or motive to show better than just there's free drugs right if we kill Kurt we can
take the money he has on him like what is that no no being paid for years by possibly the
rich woman. No, no, no, but I'm trying to leave Courtney out of it for a second. Is there a world where
it's just the two killers acting of their own accord with their own agenda? Is there any world where
that exists? Sure. Yeah, if they're angry and jealous of Kurt, sure. It's possible. If we remove Courtney
and say they got in a fight and they were pissed, like you said with the junkies and coming down or
it's late at night and like, yeah, sure. If they got mad, they could kill them and easily
ODium.
The gun in the mouth is overkill.
They could have basically just left it that he died of an overdose.
Totally. Totally.
You see what I mean? So I don't know what...
It's a way more believable.
Right. Oh, he OD, we were all high.
That's almost, that seems a little less intrusive and incriminating.
Of course.
So I don't know what's what that's why it's kind of, maybe there is premeditation to show he killed himself.
Right. But yeah, they could attack him.
I mean, me and you could get in a fight and I whack.
you over the head with a baseball bat and grab a bunch of heroin if I was a heroin user and shoot you up to show you right right okay so is is there a world where the
Seattle PD even though they said they won't reopen the case is there if you got sorry what is her name
Bonnie Bonnie if you got Bonnie to spill as candidly as Joe Byrne spilled is that enough I wonder for the Seattle PD if there was a DA that would be
you think they could reopen?
Yes.
If you had two witnesses corroborating.
Right.
And they are willing.
Basically, what I would do, I'm not a lawyer.
I'm not a judge.
But I work in this world every day.
I get it.
I represented myself in two other cases.
I will say this.
If a DA, if the district attorney of King County, right, which is Seattle.
Yep.
Yes.
They could grab Bonnie and Joe, sit them down and go, I will give you a proffer.
Queen for a day.
you squeal.
Did you witness this?
Will you testify?
Right.
If they both say they'll testify, absolutely.
And then they go to the grand jury basically, right?
And they decide if there's enough evidence to then go arrest Dylan and Daniel Clint Rich.
Wow.
So let's name these fucking cock suckers real quick.
One more time.
Daniel Clint Rich.
And Carlson.
Dylan Carlson.
The two killers.
and then the accomplices.
All of them?
Yeah.
I'll just,
I'll say it clean then.
So our killers are Dylan Carlson,
Daniel Clint Rich,
our accessories are Jessica Hopper,
Jen Adamson,
Bonnie Dillard,
Joe Burns,
Michael Callie DeWitt,
and Renee Navarrett.
Right, right,
okay.
With one mystery guy,
if that person exists.
And then what about Tom Grant?
Tom Grant.
Where is he now?
He's an older man.
He's still.
jab in his jaws
and he keeps trying to tell the story.
Does he still maintain that he thinks...
He's still telling the same story.
But is he maintained that it's a murder though?
He says it's a murder,
but he has no evidence of a murder.
He just keeps railing Courtney Love.
Right.
Like he even says Dylan's innocent.
So you see what I mean?
He's lost.
Yeah, this doesn't make any...
That's the most convoluted part of this whole...
He harps on Courtney Love.
He's obsessed, but I think he's a double agent.
I think he kind of like it's just away for him to get fame.
I do look, I do it too.
Come on, man, I wrote four books.
I just wrote my fifth book.
Yeah, we get it.
We're all trying to build a brand and make our name.
But, dude, they told you there were witnesses.
Why didn't you investigate that?
They told them years ago.
Because I'm not the first person they came to.
Right.
Even the PI wasn't either.
Right.
But they didn't have the courage to do it.
So he's somebody that they need to subpoena and actually bring in and to-
They could.
Give us your tape.
Yeah.
Give us the evidence.
You testify against Courtney.
They're never going to get Courtney love.
The only thing you really have to be honest is if you had two eyewitnesses,
but you're going to use two heroin addicts and you deal?
You know what I mean?
The defense attorney is going to rip Joe to shreds.
Well, maybe you flip the,
you flip the two killers.
That would be,
that would be them to flip on the other.
Yeah.
And then they both flip on Courtney.
If she did it.
If she's involved.
Yes.
I would, I mean, look, it's a real mess.
but I think to answer your question is yes it's possible if a DA had the balls and the courage
and look we're lucky I'm not a cop and a lawyer because I would slay yeah I mean dude I could if I
imagine if I had a badge I solve murders from my kitchen right with zero budget well there's bureaucracy
you know in the real world there's bureaucracy there's bureaucracy there's politics right and
there's restrictions and there's ego yeah and they're you know uh ds don't like to lose so um but joe and
bonny are the key if you sat them down and go you two sit down you want to go to jail or not what do you
want to do right there's no statute of limitations on murder in any state right if i really got a hair up my
ass i could take all of you down right now are you willing to testify against dylan and danny
yes or no that's it right and even if we went mob style street
style. It's the same way.
What do you want to do? Because I
already got you beat.
Yeah. Wow. Okay.
So one more time, where should people go
to watch Joe Burns'
confession?
God bless Joe Burns.
And God bless Bonnie Dillard.
Please come forward.
And you can just
Google search Joe Burns
Cobain on YouTube.
And you'll see. There's also a website
called who killed curt.org.
And you can go there to see the same video.
And I believe by the time this airs, there'll be other videos.
Okay.
Okay, cool.
Let's amazing.
Thank you.
That was fucking great.
Thank you so much.
My mind is blown.
I don't know.
I don't hold that much hope like you that this case will be reopened.
But I sure hope so.
Let's talk real quick about, let's tease what you got coming up because this is fun.
as fun as
you did this to me last time where you put me
on the spot and then we teased Cobain
but yeah I can tease it with you
exclusively today
okay uh cool yeah let's talk about
diddy he's topical
Sean Colmes yeah
yeah I call him I call him puff daddy
because I'm from the 90s like yeah exactly
I call him puffed so puff
still puffed um
and I think it's an important story
I've been given exclusive access
to someone that
um
is working with Kim Porter's
Flash Drive and memoir.
Kim Porter, the baby mama of his original two kids.
Three children.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Three children.
And then she had another child with Albi Shore named Quincy.
Yeah, she sure could pick him.
She had, yes.
Let's not blame.
Let's not victim blame.
No, no, no.
What a stupid bitch.
She has twins with Diddy and then a son, Christian, with Kim.
Okay.
Kim died in 2018.
There's suspicion of whether she was poisoned or did she really die of low bar pneumonia.
we have some investigators looking at it.
Right.
That's kind of old news.
It's six years ago.
But she has a flash drive.
Supposedly, I don't know too much about this right now.
I'm just giving you kind of from the outside.
I've been granted the option to be involved.
Okay.
I don't know if I'm going to be involved.
But supposedly she left a flash drive and a memoir that has some tapes on it, graphic.
and also a multi-page diary slash memoir
detailing her abuse
and the witnessing of not only these freak-offs
that they called them,
but just a lot of secrets on Sean Combs.
Okay, and what were some of those secrets involving her?
Like, he would beat her.
There was, they leaked some stuff already, supposedly, has been leaked.
What's the leak stuff?
About the abuse.
of that she experienced it by his hand.
And then also supposedly the memoir is highly sexualized.
So a lot of it is her shaming him for being bisexual.
Ah, okay.
Interesting.
Which we could totally see.
We already know because Cassie's lawsuit, Little Rod's lawsuit,
these are public domain.
And these were, and right, Diddy was paying male prostitutes to fuck these women in front of him.
and he was jacking off.
Yes. Filming it.
Was he actually, was there ever any eyewitnesses of him doing gay shit with these male prostitutes?
Yes.
Right.
Okay.
So we totally see that.
And also with other celebrities, I don't want to name them here.
But the rumor is there's other famous men that Diddy was having trists with, I say.
Trists, that's a nice word.
I try to, I think that's the right.
Rumps.
Rumps?
Uh, okay.
They're very famous people, too.
What do you hope to do with this?
I don't know if I'm going to fully get involved with it because obviously it's a dangerous situation.
They have to play out Little Rod's lawsuit.
There's five other civil lawsuits.
He's changed attorneys.
What's his what, what, like, were they able just, just on it?
Supposedly the feds have the videos already.
Right.
So what's the, why, what's the holdup?
You know, there was all this, this was the biggest dues in America four months ago when they raided his, his pad here in L.A.
and then in Miami.
Yep, yep.
What do you think,
what do you think they're doing right now?
What's your speculation?
Some of that might be a smokescreen.
Like,
you're going to search for his stuff now
after 20 women came forward for over two years.
Now you're searching his safes and his houses.
I think there's a little bit of a show there.
You know,
they cuffed Christian.
He walked him out with their freaking salt rifles.
Right.
I don't know.
I heard he flew the stuff out of the country,
the tapes.
I know that there's people that have them.
and right now I have a source saying that someone shopped
the Bieber tape in Hollywood.
What's the Bieber tape?
Of Bieber, a sexual tape with Justin Bieber on it.
This is not a morning, this is not a good morning America.
That's really all I should say.
Blowing Diddy?
I didn't say that.
Sucking Diddy's cock?
Hey, hey.
Would you really say that?
Throat.
I'm saying it right.
I'm saying it right now.
Throading ditties.
Mr. Combs is
Wow.
Uh, rather,
rather generous.
How do you know it's,
how do you know it's generous?
I had just speculating stereotypes about African-American men.
So, I mean,
it'd be wild if he had a small one.
Uh,
that would actually make me think it's,
this is less bad.
But, uh,
I'm kidding.
I know you have no fear because I know your story pretty well.
I have no.
I don't give a shit.
I know,
but that's amazing to me because your Columbia story,
that thing you told was like,
I was blown away. If you shocked me, so here's my point. Okay, I get it. You're going for it. I'm not going for it.
But that's what so, but this is, I didn't even hear about the Bieber tapes. You just said it.
But I didn't, but, but I didn't even know this was a thing. Like, is this, had this surfaced yet? Or is, are you giving us an exclusive? Or is this? No, it's, it's rumored. Okay. Got it. Because there's, you know. If you read it, if you go to Reddit, if you go to Reddit or black Twitter or deep into the, you know, deep into the, you.
these like again, I don't want to call them black, but they are. No, not even the dark web.
Just, just YouTube influencers or people to hear about this shit. They say there's a tape that
exists. I still watch CNN. So I only get the mainstream news when it comes to this shit.
That's a problem. So, no, of course I don't watch it, but I don't go deep. The only way to get
information about what's going on with Diddy is either to go deep into the bowels of the
internet or just read what officially the government has on them.
Sure.
And right now, all the government has are a bunch of lawsuits alleging the same stuff,
sexual abuse, you know.
Trafficking, drugging them.
Right, right, right.
So Cuba Gooding is named in there.
Right.
What's for abusing Little Rod, I believe.
Right.
Yes.
Little Rod was the videographer, right?
Yeah.
He was working for Diddy?
Yeah, I think he was an artist.
too, producer too.
And that alleges, are they like raping him or are they just
There's a lot of stuff in his.
I read Cassie's A to Z, this disturbing.
Her whole lawsuits online.
She settled.
They settled.
Did he should never have let that lawsuit come out.
I don't know what he was thinking.
Like, because he paid her like $20 million the day after.
I don't know what he's thinking.
Okay.
He's obviously, from what I hear he's getting arrested.
Like he's going down.
That's what we want basically.
That's how we'll get off.
There's a grand jury.
they're already in New York.
It's already convened.
He's, he is most likely going down.
He's going down.
Yes.
Okay. Gotcha.
Do you think he's protecting anyone?
You know, there's all these stupid conspiracies?
Politicians.
You think they were at his freak-offs?
Who?
Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles?
No.
Can you imagine?
Don't say Jimmy Kimmel's name because you're going to, they're going to get sued.
Dude, you think Jim?
No, we're in Brett Farr.
Aaron Rogers when he said the Epstein tapes.
And he's like, oh, I.
I know Jimmy Kimmel hopes those don't come out.
Do you think Jimmy Kimmel was at the freakoffs?
Oh, Jimmy.
Who do you have me on a show?
Do you have any rumors of what politicians were at the freakoffs?
I got a rumor.
I can't say the politician's name,
but I got a rumor that a politician is doing that rant,
with a 14-year-old.
Wow.
High-level politician?
On tape.
Are we talking?
Can you say mayor, governor?
What level?
Senator?
I'm not going to say that.
Let's just say,
known. Okay. So when, all right, so we'll just look out for that. We'll just hope, hopefully you have.
By the time this airs, there's going to be a lot of stuff that's going to come out. Okay. There's already parts of her memoir they've leaked. Okay. There's a couple of pages. Right. The bloggers are already showing it.
Got it. Okay. So once there's more, uh, it'll open up to this story. Yeah. To specifically to, uh, her memoir,
What's her name?
Supposedly, if Bieber's underage, they can't show it.
So someone asked me to release it.
I don't have it.
But I'm saying, I've not seen it.
Okay.
I'll be straight.
But I've been offered because I'm Chris Todd and they think I'm the craziest dude in Hollywood.
I've been offered to release it.
Okay.
So, yeah, once this develops more, we'll have you back on.
Cool.
because this is obviously
this is the new story
of the fucking decade
when it comes to like
he's the black Epstein
for sure
or worse
he might be
I don't
I would never say he's worse
than Epstein
but he's worse
than Weinstein
yeah for sure
he's way worse
than Weinstein
yeah he's a bad dude
yeah he's a bad dude
and he brought this
upon himself
and
yeah and they all have
the kind of the same
all of these stories
of these predators
kind of have
the same characteristics
to them
money auditioning
taping and drugging them.
And it goes way back.
And there's all this weird shit.
Just like with Weinstein, just like with Epstein.
Takes decades to get them.
Yeah.
There's all this weird shit.
And you kind of like, in hindsight, when you go back and look, you're like, oh, yeah,
there were signs throughout the whole fucking run.
It's insane.
It's crazy.
But, well, we hope he gets arrested.
But we'll see as this breaks.
We'll have you back on.
Chris Todd, plug where they could go.
find your stuff.
What's the best place?
Thank you very much.
First of all,
Johnny,
for having me on again.
So much.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Love being here.
Chris Todd,
you can find me online.
My number's online.
My email,
Investigator,
LA19 at gmail.com.
And I have,
I'm on YouTube.
I'm on Facebook.
I'm on Instagram.
Reach out to me anytime.
My door's always open
and my phone number's online.
And I think in my Facebook.
Any tips?
They can reach out.
Any tips?
Anybody on any of the
cases that I work, I write everybody back and I, I re-engage everybody unless it's something really
that I can't comment on or do with.
But I will say this.
One last thing.
Someone just wrote me the other day saying Elon Musk has some dirt.
Something like that or that he has some dirt against him and they want me to come forward
on Elon Musk.
But for me to take on Elon Musk.
Diddy, I think I'm going to pass.
Yeah, I'm not even
crazy. I don't think, yeah, throw Trump
in there too. But no.
So thank you so much, Johnny, for having me.
I really appreciate it. Absolutely. Thank you guys.
Go check out Chris Todd.
And we'll see you next time.
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