The Cryptid Factor - #094 The 'This Paranormal Life' Special Issue

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

**SPECIAL ISSUE** Rhys and Dan are in London - and take the opportunity to storm the secret studio of podcast cousins Rory and Kit from 'This Paranormal Life'. With Buttons dialed in, they catch up and cover off a great deal of usual weirdness, along with the unusual addition of some ghost stories! There's also time-traveling Albert Einstein and restaurants, dream-crashing men, Steven Speilberg stealing movie ideas, oh, and LOADS of Lazy Code!www.thisparanormallife.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Then freeze me stiff and give us a biff, I'm a living breathing shrine. We are back! I haven't done one of those for a while. So yes this is a very special episode in terms of it being different and also special. I'm only here with Dan. Dan is with me. We are missing the buttons.

Well, hang on, what do you mean you're missing me? I'm right here. Well, he's through the internet and he's on a laptop. But reason for it, we're in London. I'm here with Dan. I've just done the Weirdo Show. And Dan, what have we got today? This is amazing. We are sitting in the classified located home of this Paranormal Life podcast, which is an amazing sort of cousin of ours. It's a show that deals in the mysteries and the weirdnesses of the universe and we've been allowed

Access into the actual offices where this show is made you say allowed access But we actually stormed in here and tried to take it over We heard there was another podcast delving into the same stuff and I well my plan was to just shut it down But they're nice guys. Yeah, we accidentally did an episode of their podcast instead Anything complete opposite of our intention. Of course, you did it. You did it all without me. What the hell? You left me behind.

Yeah. Come on, not this. Sorry, buddy. But what's exciting is we're not just sitting the three of us in the room because we have Kit and Rory of this paranormal life here with us. Still here. We just did a kick ass recording of their show looking into an investigation buttons you would have loved it. It was all to do with a mysterious werewolf like character

that lives in Wisconsin. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was, it was awesome. Um, we can send you some pictures if we want. We got some pretty, pretty damning evidence. I would say. Yeah. So if you want to hear the episode, anyone who's listening now, head over to this Paranormal Life's podcast feed. Check out all the other episodes they've done as well. They're absolutely brilliant. But we were very excited. We couldn't leave having just done your podcast. We thought we need to grill you. We need to find out who our cousins are, you know, meet the family. Yeah, the weird cousins that you don't get see that often they kind of smell different than you

Eat almonds and aren't allowed to watch TV cool accents I'm annoyed with I'm the accent guy No, that's I don't know we're all from strange places not the accent guy the city cousins that are a result of relatives procreating, sort of those sorts of cousins. Fun cousins. Right, you guys came into the studio and you were like, well there's the two monsters we're investigating today.

Where's Kit and Rory? It's us guys, we're here, we're here. So Buttons, you would love this if you were here man, it's exactly like your cryptid cocktail bar. Like, there's a big shelf next to us full of there's a big foot caller. I'm the alien decanter please. Oh my hang on yeah no hang on a second that's exactly the right just talking about I've got exactly the same. And of great. I can't in my bar that's almost exactly the same. Men of Great Taste. I had decanter in my bar! That's almost exactly the same emptiness.

Well it's outer space vodka. Did it come with vodka in it? This is outer space vodka. This is like the Dan Aykroyd. Yeah. Yeah, nice. Yeah, my 16 year old son bought it for me. He faked ID and went to a bottle shop and bought it for me.

He loves me that much. I'll tell you what, rather than you running off for 20 minutes to find it, can we just assume that you're not lying and you hang out with us? But it's full of amazing stuff give us give us a rundown of how you guys came about to become a podcast seven years We hear yeah Well, the story we always say is that you know when when kit moved to London We always knew that we wanted to start a podcast together We just didn't really know what we wanted it to be about.

But we knew that everyone, whether they want to admit it or not, does have a kind of a passive interest in the world of the paranormal in some form, even if they don't really know it yet. There's always that video on the side of your YouTube browser that has a circle around the, like a dark corner, and you're like, all right, before I go to bed, I'll just watch this. Top five ghosts caught on camera so the joke when we started the show was that we were calling ourselves professional paranormal investigators without really knowing anything about what we were talking

about the irony being now of course that after 300 plus episodes you do have a wall yeah you start to know things are lot. Things have gone too far. What we were talking about earlier, which is you start to become part of the groups of people that usually you would cover on the podcast. You're the ones going out and investigating and finding things, and you learn to really love it. Do you feel as though you've solved any of these unsolved mysteries, or even come close to feeling like you've proven something. I would say we've probably muddied the waters even more than they were muddied when we began. But I feel like- We are cousins, that's what we feel too, you've done exactly the same.

Although we have actually credibility, we have three things that we've actually, we can say we've had some sort of involvement in proving, of course, and that is the Chupacabra. I told you off air about our little failed pilot when we went to Churro in Texas. That was proven. And also, the next one was the Thunderbird which Dan was involved in. Yeah. Give us a quick couple of sentences on how we proved that one. We flew over to Illinois and we went to the very location, the exact location, which was a sort of lake where a man called Chief Huffer back in the 1970s, he took footage

of this Thunderbird which is meant to be a sort of pterodactyl-like sized mysterious bird that shouldn't be there, a cryptid. And we proved it by, what did we do? We made a drone with some poles on it. Let's give credit to Buttons. Buttons made an experimental drone with massive wings and we went to the exact location where the original footage was taken, the exact tree, and we're in these little boats.

It was a little adventure, and then Button sent his droned fake Thunderbird up to the exact spot, the length of the wings was the exact same length of what the other one was, and then we took the same photo and it was the same size. So that was a proven Thunderbird in our books, well done. Proven, proven, and those were in the days when drones were quite rare and quite expensive. And we almost sent it into the actual water with the, with the Thunderbird attached to it. It was quite, quite nerve wracking. That would have been your company down a few Hyundai.

And the third one was the recent Nessie, obviously, with, with Chee Kelly. And so Buttons once again, saving the day by splicing together 70 photographs and turning it into a little video that then blew the world away with my name attached. Right what I'm gathering from this is it's mostly Buttons doing the work. I love this cousin, this is my favourite cousin. Have a list to say please Rory. Now check this out buttons, this is something that we've not yet achieved on the cryptid factor which is that this paranormal life have brought to the foreground their own cryptid

that no one else has really ever spoken about and not only are they getting the message out there but check this out you're gonna love this they have their own action figure of their own original cryptid and it is called the Dublin Gorilla Man. That's beautiful I need one of them in my cryptid bar I've got the vodka I don't have one of them. I think he's a one ofof-one to be fair. Like the beast himself.

Yeah, yeah, this is a bespoke made by a fan of theirs. But tell us about, because I know you, I know, I'm so sorry Kit, I know you hate hearing this story over and over, but tell us about the Dublin Gorilla Man. It's a real thing. It's a real story that happened to me. You know, I always tell people, it's kind of embarrassing that this is my only Paranormal story you know I wish I'd seen a UFO I wish I'd seen a ghost the only thing that I've experienced Similar to your friend who saw a potato with legs

All I saw was this gorilla creature down in Dublin He is actually referenced on our wall of evidence as you can see up there. We do, yes, that is a picture of the Sasquatch from the Patterson footage. But of course we have a big Dublin question mark red sign up there. I did look at that earlier.

Was the Patterson footage actually shot in Dublin? It's definitely not shot in Dublin. Okay. Patterson footage. But now I see where you're going with it. Yeah, wow. Why is there a pint of beer with the Dublin guerrilla man? Uh, I'm gonna go ahead and assume the Irish connection.

It's, it's, it's, he's in Ireland. It's a funny kind of stereotype. Yeah, but yeah, it's like, like, Guinness, if it's any kind of stereotype. So where did you see this thing? Dublin. Yeah, I know. What street? I'll give you three guesses. Uh is the problem. He doesn't know. That's why I hate this story

It's because he was about seven or eight years old. He was a small child I do know and it's a very real thing. I will say the the the details for this case are highly classified We've only ever given them out at this paranormal life live shows After we get every single individual to sign a waiver Saying that they will not disclose any information Okay, so it's highly classified. Yeah, unfortunately, okay buttons quickly give them a waiver All right divulge Alright. Divulge. I'd like to say, I don't know if Kit has any more exciting paranormal stories than I do. Unfortunately not.

That's the reason it's become such a hot topic is because despite investing in the paranormal for so long, we went in a skeptics, you know, and so I love that we that. We had, you know, I grew up in a really old house and don't get me wrong, things go bump in the night and stuff like that. I mean, and I did see a strange thing, a kind of strange meteor like object in the sky, you know, going back at least 10 years ago. But suffice it to say, our paranormal experience,

first-hand evidence is actually pretty limited. Well, I can actually tell you about one that we both experienced very recently at the same time. Oh yes, good one. I would say it's equally as embarrassing as the Dublin Gorilla Man. And I'm not entirely sure where this fits into the world of the paranormal, but Kit and I, I believe it was last year,

we were walking in kind of Northeast London. No, it was Camden. Is that not Northeast London? North London? Well, kind of Northeast London. No, it was Camden. Is that not Northeast London? North London? Well, yeah, North London. I think we were walking back towards like Islington or something. But anyway, I want to get, it's going to become very important. They're always quite shoddy on exactly where these things are happening.

We're at a rehearsal space in Camden and we're walking back towards like North London. Okay. We both saw Albert Einstein. No. What he passed us on the street and I was actually, Kit was on the phone and I saw him and I kind of did it quite a comical double take and but I was also kind of devastated in the moment because I was like, well, look, Kit was on the phone. How am I ever going to explain to him what I've just seen?

Yeah. And then you ended the phone call and immediately you were like, well look, Kit was on the phone, how am I ever gonna explain to him what I've just seen? And then you ended the phone call and immediately you were like, was that Albert Einstein? And it- I was like, okay, yeah, love you too, sweetie, all right, talk soon, was that Albert Einstein? Wow. And you were already thinking it was before he mentioned him.

I can't even describe to you how sure I was that it was him. And I know you think he's got quite a look, just the crazy hair in the face. Yeah. Yeah, it was him. We'll describe him it So what height are we talking? No, I don't actually know. Can we take actually can we just take a quick guess? I just thought just so we reinforce our own idea of what it might be. How high would you guess he was? I mean, I would I would say he'd be Five five six five, sort of. Right. Yeah. Kind of a shorter man.

Hunched over a little bit, you know, getting on a bit. Depends what time in his life it was. It's as if you were there, Reince, because he was slightly hunched over. I want to say jacket over shoulder or jumper over shoulder, something over shoulder. He was like, walking along, as if he'd had a bad day. There was, like, he was not striding. Slightly wobbly gait. It was very just ambling along. Like he'd just come back from. The old professors amble.

Yeah. Exactly. I mean, we were so convinced we started Googling like, is there a science fair on or something that a guy in period Albert Einstein costume would be wandering the streets. We're like, okay, we're in Caled Canada, we're sort of technically in the West End. This is how real it was, was we were literally looking up what West End productions are on. Is there something where someone would be,

have prosthetics to be exactly dressed as Albert Einstein? Here's a detail. Was he wearing socks? I didn't get a look at his feet, unfortunately. Well, we did watch him walk away, didn't we? I think we did turn to be like, he is still there. He kind of entered a portal as he faded, you know, kind of. And you didn't think to go, Albert!

In hindsight, that would have been a really good- Einstein! Good test, yeah. I think because you, because Ken was on the phone, I didn't wanna, there was a lot going on, but we should have yelled. But you know what, that gives me more proof that it could be him,

because when you see something paranormal, you're in a state of shock, and that's why people don't get their cameras out in time so I feel like yeah this really probably did strike you so especially when you straightaway got off your phone and that was the first thing you said and you already had that image so he was an elderly guy. Can we just back up one second to Dan's comment about was he wearing socks? Yeah actually there, we assume that there's a fact there. There's got to be something more in there.

Albert Einstein didn't wear socks, am I right? No, I've just always wondered what kind of socks he wears. So I was just more than disappointed. No, he didn't wear socks. Yeah, he didn't like socks. So that would have been a telltale sign. That makes me that challenges everything about the guy, because people who don't wear socks are... weird! Like, how can you wear shoes without socks? You're telling me Don Johnson's weird?

I'm sweaty! Come on, mate! True, good point. Okay, so that's... and you both think that that could be... Well, it's definitely up there as... probably the only thing that's happened with us both together at the same time seeing it. Yeah. And that is...

It's a cool one. ...mult is multiple witnesses. And I think if there is someone who would be traveling through time in different dimensions, it might be Albert. It could be a time slip. So we've talked about time slips before, Dan and I were talking about one yesterday. That's right. If you could remember that street, then that would be a street that people could go to. It would be a very boring podcast segment, but we definitely could figure it out We'll find it out. We'll let you guys know the route the walking route if you want to have a stroll before you leave London yeah, go Albert watching do you want to quickly do that time slip story?

I'm sure yeah, you guys must have covered this at some point But bold Street in Liverpool, which is the time slip Street Yeah, I was walking down the road and then suddenly a car comes past that looks like it's from the 50s. The shop that's a modern bookshop that he was walking into is no longer there and it's replaced by a ladies hat shop or clothing shop. And then it morphs back into normality and multiple people have claimed that they've gone back in time to the 1950s in Liverpool to see it. Yeah. And it excites me because as a massive Beatles fan, I feel like, wow, if I slipped in time, imagine if John and Paul were walking up the street, because it's

around the corner from the cavern. So they might've been at that time walking through that street bit. But yeah, I also do like the whole idea of, of tours. Like if you find that road that people can go and have a look and interestingly, just a nice bit of synchronicity, I know someone who has a tour that goes looking for Sam the sand down clown, which is on the back of their toy here. He's a friend called, yeah, he's a comic called Merrick Larwood, who he runs a thing called Cool Dudes Walking Club on the Isle of Wight. And that's one of the things, a seven foot tall alien robot that talks through a tannoy and two children claim to have seen this kid. And weirdly, the only bit of merch that I have that has to do with this

is he's made a little plasticine sand down clown. So I have that toy. Wow. That is on the back of your toy at my house as a key ring. That's incredible. Yeah, that was one of my favorite stories we've investigated. Absolutely bizarre, but so fun, so weird and unique. He's such an iconic character, I think, in the Paranormal Avengers, essentially.

It's great. What I'm hearing is we need to license this stuff. We need to get a whole line of these toys going. Get on the line to Hasbro Corporation. Get the Chupacabra in there. That would be great. Putting that aside for a second, your guys' podcast,

you do dive into the world of ghosts. And that's one thing we don't really do. We touch on pretty much every other paranormal weirdness. Although we've just taken a step back from the world of ghosts simply because ah can't be bothered not into it. It's too far in it. I mean it's a belief too far. So what I'd like to do is Rory and Kit if you could convince us in the next few however minutes we have with perhaps one of your best ghost story scenarios and yeah.

Oh yeah so not even personal if you have a personal one great but what's like the best evidence of a ghost story you've covered on the show as well? I'm guessing it'll be something they've covered because they haven't really had too much personal touch to any of this stuff they came in as skeptics and they've left as well actually they haven't left yet. Albert wasn't translucent either. He was solid. He was solid I will say we we kind of come at it probably from a similar position as as you do I think you know, we don't like to pick favorites

But we do love our UFO cases or alien cases cryptids are always fun But ghosts spirits poltergeist, they're only very hard because when you get to the evidence portion, you know By definition the evidence is not tangible. They don't leave anything behind really, which is why I think there was one case that I really loved that we investigated. It was a case, I believe it was called the White Lady of Connecticut, and I think you guys would really like it because it was essentially a ghost that used to roam the roads of Connecticut. And what happened was at one point, I think it was maybe in the 80s or 90s, an electrical transformer exploded in the city and someone was driving down the road where this white

lady, the ghost, is often seen. And they actually hit the ghost with their car and... Wait, what? The assumption... How is that possible? The belief is... This is... The belief is that this... This transformer exploding, filling the air in the city with this electrical current actually gave this spirit, this poltergeist, a physical form for a moment where maybe the driver or the ghost itself still believed it was not, you know, of material matter and it was hit by a car and I think when things died down they were looking for the body

and it was not there but there was still a dent in the front of the car so I was like that's quite cool because it's a ghost story but it's physical, you know. I love that as a theory as well that the idea that oh, okay. Yeah. I know. Sorry. I'm just going to say this is I'm just having a wee moment here. We have this thing that we talk about Kitten Rory called lazy code, which is this crazy theory that we have that if this is a simulation and a matrix that coincidences and moments of like, you know, you just think of somebody and there they are. They are around the next corner. You haven't seen them for years.

The matrix has just gone. Ah, they just thought of that thing. Well, then let's code it. I was researching only about 10 minutes before starting this podcast in case we needed to do a weird news story. And this was going to be my news story about a museum that has opened up and one of the features in the museum is the white lady of Connecticut. Whoa! That is creepy. This really terrible statue of the white lady of Eastern Connecticut. And I've never heard of that white lady before. I was like reading it and looking at this terrible statue in this museum.

And then you choose of all of the ghost stories that you have in your plethora of stories, you choose the one that I was gonna talk about in our weekly Will and Edie's. That's even more spooky than the story itself. It's just what's just happened now. So in some ways it's almost, I feel like it's the ghost world saying to us, Oh yeah, you don't believe?

Well then check this out. Yeah. This is going to spook you out. Because it's all related. It's yeah, it's kind of like, obviously, you know, lazy code, but also synchronicity and it's the other and it's the world beyond what we can touch. And it's them kind of reminding us. Yeah. And with that, Cat and Rory, in all of the diggings and dealings and stories that you've heard,

have you developed any theories of your own? Like what are ghosts to you? Are they potential slips and rifts and dimensions? Are they memories left in the rocks? What do you guys reckon? It's a great, it's a great theory. Um, I know because of course that's part of the problem. We get into the age old discussions. Is it the place? Is it stone tape theory? Not to be confused with stone tape theory.

And lots of different reasons for why ghosts could be sticking around. Maybe it's because we've grown up in the age of like science and reason as well that maybe the idea of the transformer exploding. I'm just enough of a dumb person that if someone mentions quantum physics, I'm like, I'm in whatever you're about to say next. I'm all the way in. And so whenever people tell me that, you know, two kind of universes that are parallel might just be crossing over at a certain point. And that's kind of all these ancient ideas of the thinning veil. That's the point maybe where you are crossing over and people are, we're seeing kind of some sort of image of a person. That's actually a person in a different universe. I mean, I was fascinated by what you've been talking about recently, Dan, to do with imaginary friends and this idea that imaginary friends might not be so

imaginary. Yeah, I got, I think we mentioned this on a recent Cryptid Factor, in fact, where I was quite drunk in the Czech Republic at this point when I bumped into a dinosaur expert from Fields Museum in Chicago. Thank God he's the expert there. bumped into a dinosaur expert from Fields Museum in Chicago. Thank God he's an expert there. Oh my God, it's a Stegosaurus! You really were drugged there.

I've got a cut down. You knocked down the T-Rex exhibit and I bumped into a dinosaur. And yeah, she was sort of saying that the idea of an imaginary friend is actually space and time bumping into each other with two different dimensions. And so what is your imaginary friend in this universe? You're their imaginary friend in another universe. And she kept saying, and this is quantum. We know it's true. We've proved it. And it's like, oh, OK, cool. So that's a real person. So yeah, and I think it is fascinating. I like anything. I agree with you. I'm as soon as you say quantum and you sort of explain that scientists genuinely think that it's them allowing their brain to go into a place, which is just so

theoretical, I am hooked that someone was telling me a version of, um, what's it called? Uh, the suicide paradox or something like that. Can't remember what it's called now, but it's the idea that we are in multiple, multiple universes as ourself in different places, but every decision that we make crossing the road, maybe another one of us got hit by a car or something like that. And that if you're really feeling strong in your head about what's going on in the reality, maybe you're in the version that makes it to the end. Maybe you're the, and maybe you live forever.

This universe is in someone's head. Are we all in my head right now? We in Reese's, are we in yours? Or are we in your character? Yeah, exactly. And I don't fully understand it, but I want to learn more because it's science as a theory. And that's, yeah, I love shit like that. And very often that's what's cool too too is if you look back through history as well

sometimes the science overlaps with maybe religion or myth in a way that seems pretty compelling. Yeah. You know you'll be like oh that starts to sound a little bit like Tibetan Buddhism or you know whatever it is. Yeah. There's a thing on the wall here buttons that I've been obsessed with since I walked in and I so I need to bring it up because I want to hear if you've heard about it as well. But they have right on the wall behind here, it's like a wanted poster that you might put up in grocery stores around town. And it says, ever dream this man? And it's a face of a man. And then underneath it says, every night all over the world, hundreds of people see this face in their dreams. If

this man appears in your dreams too, or if you have any information that can help us identify him, please contact us. And then there's a website, thisman.org. That's crazy. Why don't you bring it up? Thisman.org. Well, what's the story? Is it a hoax?

Is it a... Do we know? Has anyone admitted to it? So I think it's... I think people have come out, the people who were responsible for this poster this poster began appearing All over the world in a bunch of different countries And I think if you went to the the website There was even a phone number that you could call and report your dreams

And they would all log somewhere And I think it was one of these things that, it was a bit of a creepy pasta, like an online mystery, that I believe some people then eventually did take credit for, and they were like, this was our hopes at doing a bit of like promo for our like short film or our indie project. But one of the reasons we covered it on the podcast was because this story was kind of the tip of the iceberg

into this strange phenomenon of posters popping up in cities where people are asking about dreams. Because this one, as I said, turned out to be kind of promo for a movie, but there's a lot of different stories from all over the world of telephone numbers popping up on a little tab of paper saying, if you've had any strange dreams call us People track the IP of the website or wherever and it goes to very strange places I quite often pull the little phone number things off. I'm the woman of your dreams I don't know whether that's that could be slightly different, but I've had some pretty freaky nights

Do you want me in your dreams? pretty freaky nights too guys. Do you want me in your dreams? But what the thing I find really interesting because as you say for a long while no one knew what this was and didn't know it was promo because obviously they were trying to get the promo out. Yes. And then you mentioned creepypasta and then obviously there's the story of Slender Man and Slender Man being it was a creepypasta story about a guy who's in your dreams, who comes real

and then he lives in a forest and he wants you to move in with him. And best book I've read, I think, in quite a long time by Kathleen Hale is the story about how two girls believed in Slender Man so much that they ended up stabbing a friend of theirs at school with a knife multiple times in this small town where they just didn't know how to deal with it at all. Fortunately, she survived. Most people think that the little

girl died and she didn't. She survived. But you can see when if you place something into the world, I bet there were people having that face in their dreams off the back of it. Oh yeah. They weren't already. And now as such, it's a sentient idea. I don't mean it's alive, but it kind of is alive because it's out there. It's a really good sociological experiment for sure. I don't mean it's alive, but it kind of is alive because it's out there Yeah, really good sociological experiment for sure. I've actually seen the film with the guy

That's always in your dreams and I feel like it might have just come out or not that long ago is a Nicholas Cage Movie buttons you if you want to check it out. It's actually quite good. It's He always makes the weird ones and that's certainly right up there. But there's a great, there's a whole collection. I forget what this type of story is. It's kind of like a creepypasta but set in the real world, almost like an augmented reality type game thing. And there's a bunch of great stories like that. I don't know if we've ever covered the secret cicada organization. Oh yeah yeah. 3701 or whatever it's called. 3301 maybe. Yeah. Is that a Nokia phone?

33 times. Yeah. But Cicada, whatever the numbers are. Very similar. You know, these posters and QR codes pop up. The big question is though, is it the secret Cicada society or is it the secret Cicada society? Yeah.

What would you say, Dan? Sorry, we had an episode where I pronounced cicada and it's currently cicada Yeah, ooh cicada it's like mine are more posh It sounds like something you'd order at a restaurant well actually when When cicadas chirp, it actually sounds like they're playing the harp it sounds like they're playing the harp. They're very fancy. Yeah, very much. Brrrring.

Yes. Brrrring. Is everything up here to do with a story that has been in a past episode? A lot of the shelves are fan stuff or some things that we've picked up, but the conspiracy wall behind Kit here, a lot of these are cutouts or pages

from things that we've covered before. So you've got of course Dublin Guerrilla Man, the Shag Harbor that landed in Canada, one of my favorites. We've got Roswell. We have pages from actual, these are actual FBI and CIA documents on astral projection, which is really cool. You've ever seen that very iconic picture of the human head in all of the cubes believe it or not. That's actually from government research Where they kind of thought using your brain you would be able to send your consciousness to a location Yes, and kind of you know perceive whatever information is being disclosed. Yeah location. Yeah

Yeah, which you regaler claims to also be part of that Experimentation they put a lot of money into it. There was millions of dollars over like 15 years where the one that I read about when I was Researching money kids book I put it in there as an example of how governments have been doing that was where they brought a Random psychic smile into a room and they said inside this envelope is the location of where we want you to go We want you to psychically read it and then project yourself there and it was Mars 2 million BC And and they started doing and you can read the thing I can see yellow sand everywhere and weird pyramid style things and stop you there. It should be read. Oh, yeah

The red planet red planets But maybe that distant future it has gone to a rather lush yellow. Yes, a distant past rather. Yeah. Oh I'm sorry. Were you overshot and went to Uranus? Yes. Excuse me.

Buttons, there's a baseball player here called Chipper Jones. Is he related to anything or is that just fun? I've just mentioned him quite a lot on the podcast before. He's my favorite baseball player. Yeah, shoehorning him into a carnival. Well, I also, I think I've told, I think I told a story before on the podcast where I had some spooky things happening in my house.

And anytime anything spooky happened, I would grab my autographed Chipper Jones baseball bat and go downstairs. And I think the baseball bat made such an appearance in a few episodes that a lovely listener from the States sent us the Chipper Jones. He gives you security, the bat and everything. I get that. He does.

I met a lady in Czech Republic who wasn't the dinosaur expert. It was another lady who was telling me that, and I'm going to hopefully get in contact with her to get the real story because her sister is the one who carries the story fully But she used to have this little Little toy of a witch which anytime you passed it would laugh it would do And it was a battery-powered kind of yeah but they hated the sound of it and they took the batteries out and then her grandmother passed away and Anytime they mentioned the grandmother's name in the house the witch would laugh

Despite batteries being gone. Oh my lord And any time they mention the grandmother's name in the house, the witch would laugh despite batteries being gone. Oh my Lord. Well, that kind of reminds me of, you'll see on the shelf, one of the investigations we did not too long ago was actually into Furbies. I don't know how familiar you are

with the phenomenon that is Furbies. God, they were the Christmas gift of 2007 or something, weren't they? Everybody's going crazy for them. 2003. I can't remember where it was. Just calling back to the episode we did with this for a normal life. I was about to do it, but I thought it wasn't worth it. Thank you, it was!

It's a cross podcast callback. But of course, Furbies are famous for the same thing. There's stories of people taking out the batteries and the Furbies continue to talk. They're activated by themselves in the dark in closets. And I think online, as we did in our episode, there's some guides you can follow that will quote unquote turn your Furby evil. And it's a series of, you know, putting your finger in its mouth a bunch, flipping it upside down, dropping it on its head. Oh, no, like.

And you kind of, it kind of, yeah, goes into a panic mode and the eyes change and there's videos online of this for me. It kind of does a primal scream sort of right before. It kind of goes, oh no, whoa, whoa. Quah! It's like a little kind of. Yeah, we actually.

We were quite taken aback. We caught one on camera in the episode and it it it properly lost its mind We had to take it on the back and shoot it in the head it was it was quite traumatic now We know buttons is being very polite here by waiting so long to mention what he loves to mention to every single human He comes into contact with but buttons we thought it might be fun for you to pitch your theory to the boys. Yeah. What? Do I have a theory? Yeah, there's a little theory that you sometimes bring up about UFOs and what you think they

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Okay, well only because you asked, otherwise I would have never wanted to talk about it ever again, I promise. But! This is the last time. This is I mean for this very special occasion, I will repeat my theory for you now. But it's more a thought experiment than anything else. Right. And, and I like it because it has the ability to be able to stretch people's brains and it's basically around UFOs and what the plausibility of UFOs could be.

And we've been fed for so long that UFOs are little green men from Mars. And then when Mars was ridiculous, it's further out into the universe. But what if UFOs are not from outer space, they're actually just simply us time traveling back from the distant future or from the distant, they're actually just simply us time traveling back from the distant future or from the distant, distant past when there may have been a civilization before being

wiped out. And people are going, let's go as far as we can to see whether or not we respawn or whatever. And they are effectively paleontologists coming to come and check us out. The proof points in that theory, I believe, are way more solid and believable. And as much that if you're going to come from the other side of the universe, the first thing you're going to do if you get to a civilized or at least an Earth like place is turn up and go, Hey, we're here. Can we have a chat about, you know, it's been a long journey. Can we just sort of maybe interact and take us to your leader?

But they don't, they hide. And they get all secret and hide and a little bit sneaky. Like you would if you were a time traveler. Yeah, I don't know if he's sold this worse in the past, but I am in, this is a fantastic theory. Oh, your favorite cousins in mind. They're like, what? He did slip me a tenner before the podcast, your favorite cousins and my.

He did slip me a tenor before the podcast. I should disclose that now. It's a quantum theory. So just you can't. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm sorry. I kind of drifted off there for a moment. But quantum, you said. Don't worry, we'll do.

I'm back, baby. But yeah, but it does speak to I mean, it is quite similar to what we're describing. What if if things are crossing over in a time travel way or in a kind of quantum universe way, why would it only go one direction into a past of ghosts? And why couldn't it be, I mean, we're in someone else's past. Whoa, bros. So, but no, it's an amazing theory. What's jumping into my head was I don't know if you saw that I saw a headline a while ago that really tickled me because I saw a headline that was like Steven Spielberg said quote, what if aliens are us from the future? What? Yeah, we have, we have been known for giving away free movie ideas.

Yeah. Maybe Steven is listening. Yeah. So maybe Stephen is listening. Yeah. He's getting more great ideas. Well you know he's working on a new UFO movie now. And this is coming from the Hollywood insider. What? Me, by the way.

So yeah, he's actually doing, so you know, because he's always been into that stuff, obviously, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, ET, so he's making another one now. So if it comes out that it's about that, then we've gotta ask some questions. When you say you're the Hollywood insider, did you get that from someone high up

or did you just read Yahoo News? I was gonna say Hollywood insider.com. Or Hollywood insider.com. Well, yeah, credit where credit's due, I think it was a variety magazine. I need to pitch him the Dublin Guerrilla Man. We could have a whole trilogy set there. He's going to axe that project. I just thought it was very funny that he just said that as a non sequitur, so just as a headline, but it would make more sense if he was planning

a movie. It's become a popular thing. Worry, what do you think about this? Hey, I love this. And it makes a lot of sense to me as well, because if we're considering the possibility that aliens when they visit are creatures from a far off planet or galaxy, there is essentially no reason they should take

any form we can even see. They should be goo or gas. It's not that they should have eight eyes. They shouldn't have eyes at all. You don't even know what they should have. Right, well said. Thank you cousin. I appreciate you too. Love you bro. Your Christmas present road.

It's going to be amazing. So you know when we see these things that are kind of humanoid or tall and gangly or short but they still have limbs and eyes and things this just could be a couple million years down the line for humans. Yeah. Yeah. They're just coming back to look at the Neanderthals that we are right now. Yeah. And Rory, one of the other proof points is that let's say if there was a dinosaur expert from the Czech Republic who was sent back in time to the age of the dinosaur, it could bring something back to be able to

look at and to tell the life cycle and what the dinosaurs are eating and get all of this data on a dinosaur. One of the things that she would probably want to bring back is a poo sample. Mmm. Yeah. A bit of a word for poo, isn't there? Excrement. There's a more scientific word for poo. Coprolite. Thank you.

Excrement sample. Yeah, not fossilized. But then, like these UFOs, what do they do? There's reports of all of these people having anal probes. Whoa. And so it's going, they're coming back. They're taking out their eyes open right now. This is crazy.

Yeah. Now, what about the cattle mutilations? How do they come into that theory, Buttons? Yeah, well, just like we're saying, there's restaurants in the future that you can order steak from different times. Wow! 2000 year aged wagyu.

Right, a 400 year old cheeseburger. Yeah, probably. You don't get only asked, how would you like your steak? You get asked, when would you like your steak from? Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. I'm just-? Yeah. Not only could it be meat from long ago but they're like would you like to have your steak eaten yesterday? Because we can serve it then. Yeah I'm actually on a diet at the moment. I can't eat it. Exactly. Well no but you think about it it's actually not as silly as you think because if you were to get a steak from the 1950s there would be no microplastics about it. It's actually not as silly as you think. Because if you were to get a steak from

the 1950s, there would be no micro plastics in it. It would have no chemicals, you know, like from Monsanto or blah, blah, blah. You would be the cleanest. It would be like steak from a time before we were really polluting the earth as bad as we are. So I don't know. Could be something in it. There's another free idea for time travel in the future. Deliveroo for time travel, right? I'm on the train, I didn't have breakfast, I ordered Deliveroo, but can you send it to an hour ago when I was still at home so that I can eat it there and now be full and then you find yourself just full. But that would suggest then that you are at the very front of time. Right. Otherwise you'd already be full.

Otherwise you'd be full. You would have been at home and Deliveroo would have come and given it to you. So that's how you know if you're at the front of time. If you're hungry or not. If you're hungry. Oh my god. Well, either that or future news is fucking up. Guys, I'm never hungry. I think I'm at the front of time. You'd be at the back, you're at the back.

You're at the back. No, you're back. Because you're getting fat burgers from the future. No, no, wait. Oh wait, you're not hungry. I'm not hungry. Oh yes. Yeah.

Oh shit. Yes. Always. Dabby's at the front of time. But who's feeding you? Is this your simulation? I did have an epiphany the other day. I was like, thinking about the Matrix and simulation and busy thinking about how

amazing it is that this whole world is created for me and all of you guys and NPCs in my world. And then I stopped and thought about it for a second. I was like, no, I'm definitely in Reese's Simulator. I'm definitely in Reese's Simulator. Of course you are! I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula-

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I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- I'm definitely in Reese's simula- Top three, top three cases that you guys think that you've dealt with in the last seven years. Ooh! In five minutes. I know Kit's got a favorite one that he doesn't like to bring up around me because it was one of our, the few cases where at the end he said it was real and I said it was false. Because let's just reiterate, at the end of each episode, there are like a yay or nay on whether they believe the case is real or whether it's false. I won't belabor it, but this is my buttons UFO theory

that he does not want to hear ever again. You've probably heard of it, but the Zimbabwe UFO incident in the 90s at the school. One of my absolute favorites. And I don't need to tell the whole story, but so many elements of it that I think are too juicy. The new documentary is fantastic. Give the basics. It's a group of school children was it?

UFO landed at lunchtime at a primary school and then a series. And now it sounds silly saying that it was like 60 odd kids saw something and maybe a couple of adults and you say, oh, well, what good are the kids? But all the kids still know that they're in their thirties. they still say that it happened and it affected them in pretty profound and negative ways. So lots I love about that. And even the description of the craft, the way the aliens moved was almost like nothing I'd ever heard of before. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I love that one. I'm on board with that one too. Okay. Well, let me hit you with this one in a a little manor in Atholhampton,

there is allegedly the ghost of a monkey that lives in the rafters, and visitors have seen him masturbating in the shadows. A masturbating ghost monkey. Masturbating in the shadows. Like a silhouette. The transparent monkey. Oh, really?

I believe it was the pet of someone who used to live in the castle, and he was probably not taken very well care of But along with the family that still resides there the pet ghost is still seen sounds like it was taken great care of Myself I want to see the three stages of realization of you walking and going, oh, it's a ghost Wait, is that a monkey ghost? Yeah Wait, is that a wanking monkey ghost? Oh, what's that on the curtain?

Oh, the ectoplasm. Yeah You quickly go from fear to curiosity to disgust I love it Yes But it is those very bizarre, silly ones that really kind of stick with you Because we live in a bizarre bizarre silly world, you know, and there's a lot of darkness on this planet and I love that you guys as well as us focus on the lighter side of things because it's entertainment and the best part of humanity is to divulge into

mystery but have fun with it and don't get caught down rabbit holes that are evil. Yeah. So yeah, congratulations on your guys show. It's been a pleasure to work with you today. Just two last final things before you continue this beautiful wrap up, Reese. One thing is how have you guys been going half the amount of years as us and have three times the amount of episodes? That's the red science.

There's some time travel shit going on there. Yeah, that is actually freaky-daky. Yeah, luckily we've been getting episodes from the future and uploading them now. That's clever. It's a little... We're not at the front. We're not at the front of time.

You just get them sent back to you. Yeah. It's quite easy, actually. It helps that you have a time traveling Einstein on your crew. That helps somewhat. Yeah. Amazing. The other thing is what I have here, just in a lazy code moment, what have I got here?

But my little time table. There it is, exactly the same one. I've got exactly the same Alien Head vodka that was bought to me by my illegally from my son. But there is one thing that I would love to do because this bottle of green vodka that I have here had mysteriously was opened and some of it was drunk. Oh, nobody is owned up to it. Nobody is actually because I was going to keep it sealed because my son bought it for me. And I'm looking at you and at the back of the camera there and it looks to be that it's almost exactly the same amount of liquid gone from this one as to your one.

So I'm wondering if our bottles are kind of linked in some way whenever you drink from that one, it comes out of my one. There's some sort of like quantum drink. Pick that one up Dan. That is strange. The level on both of these alien heads is very similar. We need to take a photo of it and get a line of exactly how empty it is and check it against my one because this is a bit lazy codish. Wow. Is your seal broken?

Our seal is broken. We've had a few shots before. Both broken are sealed. I mean, you know Einstein talked about this, right? Spooky action at a distance. Did he? Yeah. It's a real phenomenon.

I mean, we've talked a lot about quantum nonsense. That is a real quantum phenomenon of if you collide particles together or something, something, they even if you, they've literally moved particles from, you know, across the particle accelerator, one set of particles sitting in France, one sitting in Switzerland, and then you affect one and then it changes the other.

They're completely disconnected and they call it spooky action at a distance. Maybe that is what is depleting your vodka, or it's your son. He bought it as a gift for himself really. What a lucky kid with a very obvious stealing of your alcohol. You're like, what? Paranormal activity. So lucky to have you as a dad. Getting away with everything, yeah.

I love it. And on that note, I think we should wrap it up there, but thank you so much for having us and thank you so much for coming on our show. Big hand to Rory and Kit and that paranormal life. This paranormal life. Thank you so much.

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