The Cryptid Factor - #096 The Trisand Effect Issue

Episode Date: July 7, 2024

In this episode - Rhys is ahead of his time, Dan is listening to the band 'The Lip Slitsticks' and Buttons employs the 'Trisand' effect - making it highly likely that this will be the most listened ep...isode ever! Also In here there's old men failing at reminiscing, Goonies Tridems, buried Mash, banned books on banned books, cheap top-secret Chinese military cartoons, free bee heaters, juvenile 'not-so-big' Bigfoot foot prints found, Turing test gets a pass, and the scariest sound of all time goes up against the loveliest sound of all time... and a Sasquatch caller!P.S - An important message from Rhys' publicist "DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS EPISODE!!" Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Cryptid Factor with Rhys Darby and Dan Schreiber Well, use advanced robotics to extend my limbs, turning me into a cartwheel with my cohorts fixed on either side, power peddling this wheel of wonder through the streets of space and time. Because approaching on your right. We're back. Very nice. Approaching on your right. Yeah. The amount of people that were just listening to that walking along a path
Starting point is 00:01:16 and expecting a bicycle, you want a bicycle to come racing up from behind. Two nerds glued to the side. If I can just turn one head, then I'll be happy. Oh, you can turn more than one head, buddy. Remember that time that we almost bought that tricycle that used to be in the classic old British comedy series, the Goonies, the goodies, the Goonies. Classic British series. And we were going to ride it into the Edinburgh Comedy Festival.
Starting point is 00:01:48 We still can. It's not a tricycle per se. It's a two wheeled bike with three seats and three pedaling devices. So yeah, if that's not a tricycle, what is it? It's a... No, I mean, I think a tricycle has three wheels. Yeah, tricycle has three wheels. Yeah, tricycle has three wheels.
Starting point is 00:02:06 That's a tandem bike. Yeah, so you get, yeah, it's a triple tandem. Triton, it's probably a triton. It could be a triton. Yeah, wow. Triton before you bite them. So for the American people that are our age, that would be like the bike that was in
Starting point is 00:02:19 the Berenstain beers. Yeah. No, though, the Hillbilly beers. God, I'm getting it. We're so old. We're so old. What? Oh my God. Yeah. No, though, the Hillbilly Bears. God, I'm getting it. We're so old. We're so old. What?
Starting point is 00:02:28 It'd be like getting the zip line in the Goonies. That's what it'd be like. What? What'd you say? You know the zip line? It'd be like getting the zip line in the Goonies. What would it be like? Yeah, no, like, you mean like the Flying Fox.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Of course, the American equivalent. Oh, no, but that's not a bike. Yeah, the Flying Fox thing. The hillbilly bears was a cartoon. Well they're all on the same bike. The whole family was on that bike. Remember? Oh, okay, right. And then the dad disconnects.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Right. The guy that mumbles. Mumble, mumble. That guy. That guy. And then everybody else is peddling. I don't know. I know the Berenstain Bears, but I don't know the Hillbilly Bears. I haven't seen that. Oh, you got to watch it. It's a kind of Barbera cartoon. It used to be on when it had the
Starting point is 00:03:17 Secret Squirrel, the Hillbilly Bears and Adamant. Wow. Look at that. Look at us reminiscing. Three old men reminiscing. If you haven't seen these things, listeners, go and Google hillbilly beers and you'll see what I mean. You've just reminded me. I've been thinking, as you were saying that, about what classic sitcom thing would I like to find.
Starting point is 00:03:40 And I've just remembered that I bought a book that I didn't know existed. It's by Alan Alda from mash. Yeah. So Hawkeye from mash, right? And it's a, it's a book of pictures from the final episode that were taken by his wife. And he's written all the commentary underneath it. And right at the end, he says one of the last acts that they did as a whole cast that they didn't tell anyone about is they put together a time capsule and they buried it on the set which was out somewhere and it's still out there.
Starting point is 00:04:11 No! There's still buried mash treasure. Are you kidding me? No! I've not heard about this anywhere else. Did they say what they put in it? No, no. He just says it. It's just a passing thing he says and it's probably still out there and it probably is. I know exactly where the location is. Oh've been there. One of the first places I went to when I got to LA was the site where they filmed MASH which is just out here out in the hills a little
Starting point is 00:04:37 bit it's not not very far there's a like a walk you can go on actually I should look it up because I'm starting to do more hikes with Theo. Yeah. And so when you go out there, they still have the sign that they had on mesh with all the different like New York this way, 2000 miles. Yeah. That is so cool. I think when you said they still have the, I thought you're still, they still have the song playing the theme tune playing there when you walk around. There's just got speakers.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah. Suicide is painless. You know who wrote that? That was Noel Harrison, who is the son of Rex Harrison from My Fair Lady and Dr. Doolittle. Wow. Really? Yeah, such a random connection.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I've got an even more random thing. You guys keep talking, I'll be back in a minute. Oh, here we go. Yeah, okay. Well, what I need to check is that I don't know if it's possible that they filmed the majority of the series there and maybe the last episode was overseas. So I'll double check that in case Reece goes hunting for no reason. Oh wait, wait I've got the wrong singer here.
Starting point is 00:05:40 No I've got the wrong song. Sorry. I got the wrong song. I don't know if this messes up with you. Noel Harrison wrote Windmills of Your Mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a circle in a spiral. He's the son of Rex Harrison.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It doesn't matter because I was just out in the desert last weekend for the inaugural stand-up podcast science festival that Matt Kersh and put on. Very successful, did really well out at 29 Palms. I did a set. Cool. And loved going out to the desert. You know, I go to the thrift store that we always go to guys and there's a record store next to it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I love this. And Finn bought some 45s. Nice. So he bought this one. What's that? And Finn bought some 45s. Nice. So he bought this one. Oh. What's that? That one is Paddy Smith Group, Because the Night. Because the night belongs to lovers.
Starting point is 00:06:34 She looks so cool on that car. Some deep purple hair, smoke on the water, classic. But check out this next one. Suicide is Painless. Oh, wow. My goodness. Yeah, so there you go. We bought that. If that's not Lazy Codes. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And it just comes up as soon as we get together. What? That's amazing. That's crazy. But even Smoke on the Water, didn't we talk about the... was that us laughing? Oh no, no, that was something else. Some other people in your life. We don't want to hear about your other other people in your
Starting point is 00:07:13 life. We're getting so dottery now. We can't recall the right TV show. We can't recall which friend group we're talking about. And we're only hitting, you're not even 50 yet, are you? Next year. Jesus Christ. Oh my God. And we're only hitting you're not even 50 yet This podcast is gonna be the battery on me and reminiscing Wow But not only that we're not even gonna have to worry about like articles We'll just pull some article out. We'll probably mentioned at the week before none of us will remember. Oh Shit the power's just gone oh so now he's frozen he's frozen that's a cute face that he's frozen okay powers gone back
Starting point is 00:07:52 on again can you guys see me hear me there you are you just lost power like what happened is that I was he was charging her car ah does that happen often that the whole power goes out? Yeah, sometimes. You might need to look at your wiring. Oh, totally. Hey, by the way, I'm recording in Margate today and I've made a new discovery at my house in the last few days, which is down at the fairground, which is about a half hour's
Starting point is 00:08:20 walk away called Dreamland. Oh yeah. They now do evening concerts out in the open, right? So it's like by the Ferris wheel. There's a massive stage. Love it. I went the other night to see Elbow and it was incredible. Amazing British band, if you haven't heard them every night.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Over the last few days, there's been live bands. If we're silent right now, I can hear the band that's playing live right now. So on Thursday night, we had Brian Adams playing. Oh wow. Brian Adams to this small seaside town. Last night was Madness. Yeah. I love Madness.
Starting point is 00:08:53 These are big names. Big names right. Classics. Literally I can hear them right now is Limp Bizkit. Oh. Playing down the road. Ahhhhh. That takes me back.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Limp Bizkit. We're doing it for the nookies. Yeah. Sort of just slightly hoping that you were going to say, it's the guy who wrote the mesh theme. He's on right now. If you listen carefully, you can hear suicide is painless. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:09:17 That would be lazy code too far. Even the universe wouldn't do that. Roger Williams. We should get his name out. Roger Williams. Do you know what? I just looked up because I thought Limp Bizkit what a weird name where did that come from I just quickly googled it and I discovered that they basically picked it so that people. Would not want to listen to them when they were checking out if a new band was worth listening to so we would only attract the type of people they want but Limp Bizkit was in a big list of names that they just plucked out. So here are the alternatives to what they could have been called.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Gimp Disco. Gimp Disco! Split Dixlet. Oh my god. Oh my god. Bitch Piglet. Woah. And Bloodfart.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Oh, none of which are any good. No. Split Dixlet is not. Geez. I'm not listening to any of them. So they were trying not to make it, huh? Apparently. Here they are.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Okay. In Margate. Wow. Yeah. Still rocking. Split Dixlet. Split. Split Dixlet.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And we've been Split Dicklist. Good night. No, what is it? Split Dixlet. Dick Split. Split. Split. Lick. Lick. Lick. Lick.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Lick to split. Dick split. Lick, lick, lick, dick split. Yeah. Whatever. All right. And on that note, let's now go to everyone's favourite segment. Weekly World Weird News. Crazy. Freaky.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Watch out. What do we have? Anyone got fancy headlines? I've got just a strange one, which is a fun one to say. Banned book is now a book that is banned. Dick slits, slits, dicks. Not the limp dick story. Banned this book is a book that's banned. A book about banned books has been banned is what you're saying, I think.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah. Right. That's all I've got No need for the article? No need for the article What have you got Dan? Scariest sound ever has been released to the public Oh brilliant
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'll see if I can outdo it Not that hard Oh right I thought you meant the headline You mean you're gonna outdo the scariest sound itself? Oh no the sound! Wow Yeah can't wait for that That's a challenge
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah try it I'm gonna do that challenge today scariest sound itself. Oh no, the sound! Wow. Yeah, can't wait for that. That's a challenge. Yeah, try it. I'm gonna do that challenge today. And also I've got some scary news. Basically the Turing test, you might be familiar with what that is. Oh yes. It has finally been passed for the first time. No.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah. Interesting. Those that don't know what that is, I'll be explaining that very shortly. But first, let's have a listen to Buttons as banned books that have been banned. Banned, banned books. Actually, I think we've got a point on that one. Let's move on to Dan. Well, I've actually got two book stories. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:12:01 So there was a book. This is a Florida story. So you know, the old Florida man, just crazy stuff that happens in Florida. Yeah. And this is a crazy Florida story where Alan Gratz, children's book, Ban This Book was published in 2017. And so seven years later, his novel for kids ages eight and older is at the center of a big debate. After a Florida school district last month took the title literally and banned the book.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Oh my God. I know they've basically vetoed to remove ban this book from the shelves. And they did so because they thought that it was bad to publicize the books that have been banned. So basically didn't want kids knowing that libraries banned books because it might make them go about trying to find the books that are banned. To write it well. And of course they should.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah, exactly. You're going to find it. And that's the problem with the internet these days is the point is like, how many kids are actually going to the library going now? Oh, yeah. Have you got a secret section somewhere here where I can get a book that I'm not allowed to read?
Starting point is 00:13:13 That's just going to go on the internet. Yeah. That's the thing. We got the internet. Exactly. This was more for our generation when we were at school, this kind of book, but you know, it's older people doing it. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:13:22 It's people our age or even older that are going, right? We're banning these books thinking that's the end of it. But all it does is it instigates Full reading of those books by kids who find out. Oh, those are banned. Let's go and find those ones on the internet Yeah, one of the most trusted sources of today's society School in Florida, It's a school district. This is a whole school district. And then of course the news article, and as, as always happens, they do the silly thing, it becomes a big international headline.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And then the articles have to start talking about the books that have been banned. And therefore, by doing so, they've published. We know what happens then. Yeah. Those articles are banned. Exactly. Oh yeah. We know what happens then. Yeah. Those articles are bad. Exactly. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:08 This is the Streisand effect. Streisand. You know the Streisand effect? Barbara Streisand. No, what's the Streisand? I think I've heard of it. Yeah, so this is a classic thing of the Streisand effects. There was a guy who was taking photos of the coastline of a bit of America and it just
Starting point is 00:14:21 so happened that her house was sitting on the coastline. He had taken all these shots and he was publishing it as part of a report but her lawyers got in contact saying we don't want those photos connected with that otherwise people will be able to see where she lives. And then that got reported that Barbara Streisand was trying to ban this thing and basically it went from what would have been a report that six people would have seen in its entire lifetime to it making global news and now everyone knew where she lived and what her house looked like. So the Streisand effect you try to suppress something and you amplify it. That's a real thing. I didn't know that was the terminology for it. I like that.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah. Do you know what? You've given me a great idea. Okay. I'm banning anybody to know where my house is So I do you want it to be known? Because then I'm gonna be as famous as Barbara Streisand that wasn't how she got big. Oh So you want people to find out where you live so they come round yeah, not that they will anyway Yeah, and they'll be like so what have you got?
Starting point is 00:15:32 No, thank you, I don't even know why I'm here You'll never make it you've got the wrong ideas on how to make it Also trying to ride the coattails of Barbara Streisand. That's not the Streisand effect. Here's a simple example of the Streisand effect. I used to do it at school, right? When I went into the library and I'd start talking and then the librarian would go, shh, quiet in the library.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So I'd then go, okay, shh, you be quiet in the library. Shh, and people would come in and I'll go, hey, shh, I can hear you walking. Be quiet in the library. Shh. And people would come in I'll go hey shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh sh What? Try sand effect. What'd you say? Yeah. Three sands. Isn't that what you're talking about? Oh my God. Try sand effect. It's got back to the tricycle thing at the beginning. The tricycle tricycle effect. Yeah. Is this real buttons today or have we got some weird AI buttons that's kind of not quite there?
Starting point is 00:16:38 Still quite not quite there. Is chat GP fucking three? Well, no, but I can, see this is the thing. Okay. So the Streisand effect would then, if we apply it to our podcast, if we publish a report that nobody should listen to our podcast, and then they go, hang on, what's this podcast that I shouldn't listen to? And then everybody goes, I've got to listen to that podcast that I'm not supposed to
Starting point is 00:17:02 listen to. Yeah. And then all of a sudden everybody in the world's listening to our podcast. Maybe that's a Tri-Sand effect that we need. Yeah. We need Reese's publicists in America to put out a press release asking people to specifically not listen to this episode. Yeah, that'd be good.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Right. And then people will be going, why doesn't Reese to this? What's going on? What was said on the podcast? Yeah. And then that's how we, that's how we get big. Quick Reese, say something that your publicist wouldn't want you to do on this podcast. No, that's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He still hasn't got it. This is why you shouldn't be in charge of the Patreon. Okay? Hey, I seem to remember Lady Chatterley's lover, that book, D.H. Lawrence. That was a book that was banned in its lifetime. Yeah. You couldn't get that anywhere. To Racy.
Starting point is 00:17:53 To Racy. It was banned in Australia, but Australia was so stringent on the banning of it that there was a book that was written about the trial of it being banned. They banned that book as well in Australia. Oh, come on. Yeah. So they tried to release like the story of the trial of this banned book and they're like no, because you got extracts in there and you're talking about the racy stuff from
Starting point is 00:18:10 that book that's banned. So it's a similar situation to this banned book being banned where it just keeps going. Yeah. That's a trisand effect. If there's three tiers to it, yeah, I think so. That's true. I'm really nervous, by the way, about something that happened earlier this year, which is that my Theory of Everything Else book won a school award.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So a library in the UK did a kind of best book awards and their students had to vote on it and the teachers. And my book won the award for like best nonfiction book. And it's for like, you know, 12 year olds through to 17 year olds. And it was obviously a huge honor, but at the same time, the book is laced with horrible things that kids shouldn't be reading. I literally write out an extract
Starting point is 00:18:56 from the Monster Erotica book, Come for Bigfoot. It's in the book. It's gonna be 12 year olds going, oh, award winning book on our library shelves. I've got the extract here. It's fucking Bigfoot, his Shelley. He's real for fuck's sake. Horror filled her eyes with a huge cock. Like that's in my book. It is? I don't remember that bit. I must have. It's a little footnote. It's right there. Oh, right at the bottom there. Oh yeah. I feel like maybe they didn't fully read the book when they nominated it for the award.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I feel like my book will be banned when someone realizes that is a bro. It's in there but that's nothing I mean especially in the UK yeah they love cuss words I know but it's talking about having sex with big foot it It's beyond its interspecies sexual relations. Oh yeah, but it's all in good fun, isn't it? But Harry Potter and Captain Underpants, those are books that have been banned in the past. Different cultures, different countries. Yeah, totally. That's such a weird one, the Harry Potter one.
Starting point is 00:20:00 The biggest kids toy shop in the UK, it's called The Entertainer. It's massive right so we get all your toys from they don't stock any harry potter because of its connections to witchcraft and the guy who owns it yeah he's a he's a big christian and he was like nope we're not having that in the shop so he just missed out on one of the biggest franchise toys merchandise labels because of his belief which is insane yeah there's some honor in that though as well. Good on him.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I mean, yeah, if that's what he believes. Yeah. All right. Moving on to... The only other book story that I had... Oh, you're still going? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was supposed to be the shittest article that I've ever read. And I had a little backup story just in case that story was, you know, rubbish. But then Dan, of course, brings all facts that makes it my terrible article. Really interesting. Well, no, me and Reece were just working our butt off to help you out there. I didn't realize we didn't need to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:57 So I did 20 minutes of material. I was about to be brought to my story and then you're pulling out another shitty book. What's this next one? I'm not helping at all this one. This better be good. I'm just here to test you guys. You're doing very well guys, you're doing very well and here's another shit article. See if you can do it again. No, this one's simply a Chinese military buff inadvertently bought four books of military secrets for under one dollar at a county fair
Starting point is 00:21:25 book recycling type situation. He went and bought four books for less than one dollar. Turns out it was full of Chinese military secrets and he's now posted them online and even though the book is bad. Oh wow. There you go. Fantastic. I know, so book news, book news. Anyway, I'm more interested in getting into the terrifying noise. Okay, well we're not there yet, and I will say one bit on that Chinese Secrets one.
Starting point is 00:21:52 It's like, quite unbelievable. There's no way that the commander would say, look, just do anything you like with that. You know, do you mind if I just go and sell this down at the thrift store? Oh yeah, I don't care. You know, we're not, we're sort of, those are last year's ideas. Do we know what was revealed? Do we have any juicy goss? Yeah. Well, apparently, cause he realized what he had and it was actually
Starting point is 00:22:15 happened in China when it turns out 200 top secret books were supposed to be shredded and the two military employees charged with shredding them decided to do the classic old, it's a bit hard isn't it, shredding 200 books. Actually my mate works down at the recycling centre and he'll just take them as paper waste and he'll recycle them down there. So 30 kgs of books and so they took them around to the recycling center got paid $2.75 for 30 kgs worth of secrets and then Instead of recycling them by you know turning them into waste paper the recycling center
Starting point is 00:22:59 I know these are too good to chuck away. Look the ring binding on them is fantastic Yeah, so put them out for sale at the front of his shop. But he's made a loss. He's made a loss of $1.75. He's made a loss. Maybe there was no interest so he put the price down a couple of weeks in. $1 for that basket now. Yeah, they were $75 each but under $1 now. Check out those bindings. You could probably use those as eating instruments or something. Glue them together as a straw. There's no way that they were top secret because anything military has top secret and confidential
Starting point is 00:23:34 written on every single page and they just do not get out of the hands of where they belong. So it's kind of hard to believe that story. Yeah. It is because the article here says, and this is associated press, so it's not like I'm reading it from some dodgy little site. It says, some of the secrets in the books appear to have been told in comic book style. Which is, I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Like cartoons? Yeah, it says, the latest series by the powerful state security agency that appears to be trying to draw in new audiences with dramatic stories. Some have been told in comic book style. What does that mean, draw in new audiences? Like if it's state secrets? Yeah. Not enough people are looking at these top secret orders guys.
Starting point is 00:24:23 We need to get them out to a wider audience. Hey John, you're pretty good with your cartoons. Why don't you draw how to kill a man in under four seconds using a special technique. Maybe like do a Popeye arms or something like that and have a bubble. Oh, you're dead now, mate. Okay, yeah, I'll get on to that.
Starting point is 00:24:41 No, no, I know what to do. I was listening to this podcast the other day that nobody's allowed to listen to because Reece Darby's publicist said it was nobody's to listen to it. And in that podcast they talked about a tri-sand effect that if we tell people to not look at these secret documents, then they'll make them even more known. Oh no, not the bike from the Goonies. We can't give away the secret that we've all got these tri-sand bikes.
Starting point is 00:25:08 The tri-sands. I stole the idea from the popular Goonies show. Arm to the teeth, there's gonna be three soldiers at a time riding through. There's no way they're gonna stop us. Can you draw a cartoon of that and get it out to a wider audience. Yeah, maybe they are using reverse psychology. So if you put out all your secrets to the to the enemy, then there's no way they're going to believe them. Yeah, exactly. That might be. Man, this is getting deep. Interesting. I think we've lifted the lid on the whole Chinese military offensive that's about to take place. So you heard it here
Starting point is 00:25:40 third on the Cryptid Factor, folks. Oh well another good 20 minutes guys, you guys must be exhausted. That was really well done. Now I've got one other story here. Use tissue found on the side of a street. What can you do with that guys? I'm blowing my nose on it. I'm just going to say we've actually turned this podcast into something that possibly could be banned because we've given away some Chinese state secrets there.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Who cares when the world's definitely gonna win in about five minutes anyway when the Turing test has been passed so for those that don't know back in the nineteen fifties Alan Turing. Alan Turing, he's the famed mathematician, he's widely regarded to be the father of theoretical computer science. He devised a test to answer the question of whether or not computers are capable of exhibiting genuine intelligence. So the test required a participant to communicate via textual messages with both a human and a machine without being told which of them is which. In order for the machine to pass the test the participant would need to be unable to distinguish after conversing with both of them which of
Starting point is 00:26:55 them was the human and which of them was the machine. So throughout the 20th century they tested computers and none of them were able to come close to convincing someone that they were in fact a real person. With the advent of modern artificial intelligence systems, it looks as though the Turing test has finally found a winner. That is at least according to a recent study. So for the research, scientists asked 500 people to speak to four respondents. A human, an old 1960s era AI program called ELISA or ELIZA, E-L-I-Z-A, full caps, and two versions of OpenAI's modern chat GPT.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So you can see where this is going. Basically each conversation lasted five minutes and the participants had to work out which respondent was human and which was an AI. Incredibly, 54% of participants believed that the latest chat GPT was in fact human. Wow. Eliza, this old classic classic thing was limited to canned responses which greatly limited its capabilities also its name eliza sort of sounds like it's lying.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah. Eliza. Just psychologically. chat GPT fooled people and that does not surprise me but I think that's where we're at now that it's scarily and we've talked about this with regards to AI in terms of pictures and things. Now we're talking about speaking to someone on the phone just hearing a voice and you going back and forth with it and not being able to tell that this is not human. That is the scary point that we're at right now Holy jingoes. Yeah, that's nuts little side notes the thing that I keep thinking about with
Starting point is 00:28:52 No, he gave up. No, you can go you can go. I'm going Okay, it's only internet this crept up for a little Just out of curiosity. I just want to see if we've got a delay with each other. I'm going to say one, you say two, I'll say three. Are you ready? One. Okay. Yeah, two.
Starting point is 00:29:12 What? Was that a joke? No. Do it again? Reece, I'll do one, you do two, and then Buttons, you do three. Okay. One. Two.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Okay. No, come on. See, he's not taking it seriously. No, I'm doing it again. No, because, Rhys, you said two before he even said one. What? You've got time travel delay. You've got time forward delay. Oh. Time forward delay.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Told you guys, I was always the first in time. We developed that a couple of weeks ago. I'm at the head of my timeline. You are! I'm at the head of my timeline. You are! Oh my god, that is crazy. Even when you're second in the count, you're still first. Just a super quick side note, something that I read very recently is that Alan Turing, when he was devising the Turing test, he believed in telepathy so much that he insisted that all the rooms where the Turing test was being conducted were made
Starting point is 00:30:11 telepathy proof so that no one could cheat and work out who was the robot by seeing into their minds and so on. So yeah, and I don't know how he did it. I don't know if he if he implemented how he thinks you could stop telepathic thoughts entering or tinfoil hats Yeah, yeah, but as we've discovered that doesn't work it if anything it amplifies the signal So if you're wearing a tinfoil hat, you're actually making it easier for whoever's trying to read your brain One of my uncles put on a full tinfoil suit one Christmas and unfortunately ended up in the fucking oven. So he got rest his soul but we thought it was a turkey, it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:30:53 He's only a short guy but yeah he's gone now. It was a bloody good Christmas though. Tasted great. Yeah, it clearly was a bit of a turkey. It was a turkey. Yeah, but the interesting thing is, right, is that the slow creep of progress, you say that article now instead of going, what? Oh my God. You go, yeah, that makes sense because when I use chat GPT, it's starting to feel very, very believable as a human, as a thinking machine.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And we accept that. If somebody was to go back to the very first episode of this podcast and said to us, on this podcast one day, you're gonna reveal that the Turing test has passed, this is like 15 odd years ago, it would have blown our minds. We would have been like, what?
Starting point is 00:31:40 No, you're kidding me. Computers get good enough to fool us that they're a human within the lifespan of this podcast. It'd be insane. But because there's always a slow creep of progress, nobody right now is going, oh my God, this is crazy. Machines can pass as humans. Yeah. It just becomes a malaise of just like, oh yeah. As we progress through the trisands of time, we slowly adjust to the changes that are happening ahead of us. Still at that rate, it's still, I think applicable to say
Starting point is 00:32:14 that the buttons on this podcast today has not passed the Turing test. That's what I'm worried about. He's not human. Listeners, if you agree, please tap now. Which one of the cryptid factor today is an AI? That's the Turing test right there. That's the cryptid factor Turing test. Is it one, two, or?
Starting point is 00:32:40 OK, three. Three. I would actually argue that it's you Rees because you're counting faster than any of us can think. Yeah. It's way more likely to be you buddy. One of these cryptids is not like the other. One of these cryptids is not the same. Because one of these cryptids is doing his own thing Now it's time to play our game. It's time to play our game Okay, three See I'm slightly after you I'm a little bit slow but I'm more ahead in the number So I'm sort of like more advanced because I should come first, but I'm actually coming later.
Starting point is 00:33:27 So, you know, with the, the Turing test, you know how the movie about Alan Turing, the, there was the movie, the Imitation Game. Benedict Cumberbatch? Yeah. The Turing test is other name is the Imitation Game. That's what he called it when he came up with it in the 1950s and asked the question, can computers think or as he said, you know, Sorry, that was just a power cut. One of these cupcakes is doing his own thing. One of these cryptids is not quite the same. Because one of these cryptids is doing his own thing.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Now it's time to play the imitation game. One. Two. Three. Three. Three. I'm the third one, but my number's bigger. So I'm human. Guys!
Starting point is 00:34:25 Guys! Oh guys, guys, guys, go easy on me, I'm still half asleep. No, what I was trying to say is he came up the question, can machines think? Yeah. Right, that was the opening words of his University of Manchester paper that he wrote in 1950.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Just put yourself back in 1950 in Manchester and a dude, a scientist comes here and says, can machines think machines aren't even really invented yet. In people's heads a machine is a Morris minor car or how advanced is that guy's thinking that he's thinking to 2024? He is so advanced and it must have been so hard to live in his brain to try and convince people Hey, these machines that I'm building which are literally cogs spinning to try and decipher the enigma code And he's posing the question one day This is gonna be able to think.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yeah. And we have to have a test. He's writing that in 1950. It's insane. It's literally- He's a visionary. Yeah. And it made me think that he must've thought either he knew, often, you know, we talk about humans
Starting point is 00:35:37 feeling like we are machines anyway, because we are so amazing in what we can do and who the hell formed us. And if there's no God, what is God, you know, what is the purpose of this crazy creation that is us. And if now that robots are passing this test, it means that that's becoming what we are. And so we essentially are these things from the future that perhaps the whole society of humanity has come back from the future to the past and we landed at some point. And we are computer designed machines that are organic and structure and develop each other.
Starting point is 00:36:17 But we are the future. We are the future. Why not? Anyway. The future. We are the future. One of these good anyway. But on that note, how about a weird noise? Dan, what have you got? All right, well, listen, full disclosure, I found this story today. It was at the top of a list of new stories, but it's actually from late last year that it came out, but I think it's so cool that I'm going with it. Okay. This is something that everyone calls the scariest sound in the world and basically
Starting point is 00:36:50 scientists have managed to make a 3D model of what is discovered to have been an Aztec death whistle. Oh! So the whistle is based on a design that was found. It was a skull shape original that was discovered in Mexico that was found on a skeleton in the 1990s. And for a long time they didn't know why this skeleton was holding this whistle. They didn't know what it was. And then someone blew into it and discovered this sound that they did. And it's an extraordinary sound. So I'm'm gonna play it to you guys and this is via a presenter who's called James J. Orgel, who has done a whole video which is brilliant about this instrument.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Do we need a trigger warning if this is very scary? Yeah. You do actually, let's trigger it, do not listen to this sound. Younger weirdos warning, oh that's me listening to Dan too much again. But these terrifying sounds could be our trisand. Don't listen to this podcast. Everybody, your publicist could go out and say, don't listen to this sound. Do not listen to the sound. Please. This is a warning. Anyone who scares easily, please pull over or get off your horse get down from your tree
Starting point is 00:38:07 I know some of you are listening in your tree hut yeah please just be careful out there this is a scary sound don't go near your mother and if you're in a pool you know maybe hold on to your Lilo tight here we go here we go. Here we go. This has been deemed the most terrifying sound in the world. This is called an Aztec death whistle. Believe it or not this is not a human screaming. In 1999 an object was found held in the hands of a skeleton found in the ancient Quetzalcoatl temple in Mexico City. Archaeologists first thought that this must have been some sort of toy and they didn't think much about it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 It wasn't until 15 years later for some reason a scientist blew into the hole in the top of it and this is the sound that came out. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH SH It was a startling discovery because it sounded like a screaming human. This object came to be known as the Aztec Death Whistle. We aren't 100% sure what the Death Whistle was used for, whether it was just ceremonial or actually used during wars to strike fear into the hearts of the enemies. But it's clear that it was used during human sacrifices because the original skeleton that they found clutching the whistle actually had no head.
Starting point is 00:39:28 The sound that the death whistle makes innately strikes fear into your heart. So, there we go. How mad is that sound? And that's a whistle. That's up there with what I thought it was gonna be. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I want you to try and out beat that,
Starting point is 00:39:43 because if you make something scarier than that, I'm going to be too terrified. Yeah, I won't be able to do the opposite, but I will say one more thing. It does sound not too dissimilar to the Sasquatch whistle that we have, that we were given. I've got one. So I go, I'll go get it. Got one handy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 While you're gone, I'm gonna do a sound for Dan. All right. So I'm gonna now come up with the loveliest sound. This is the opposite. Yeah, this is gonna be something that's very lovely. And so after hearing that, you wanna hear something that puts your mind at peace and puts a smile on your face. And you feel okay, you feel comfort.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Okay, so that's the sound okay here we go what I must here we go Yeah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah!
Starting point is 00:40:51 Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah!
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! Oh! Gah! But I'm like shivering like the hairs on the back of my neck I want somebody to turn that into a whistle. They just blow a whistle and that's how it comes out Reese was just teeing up the fact that he couldn't do the scariest sound but what he could do was the loveliest sound the exact opposite of something you hear
Starting point is 00:41:18 What I love is that as he said here it is the loveliest thing that we will ever hear on our planet And then the next thing we hear is Hey guys what did I miss? What's going on? And I suppose arguably that is Yeah What is more beautiful than the sand planet? Stole my thunder Stole my thunder Now you've asked about the Sasquatch whistle.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Have you got it? Yes. Yeah. Let's have a listen to that. It's in my little field expedition kit from the Cryptid Bar. Oh, that's a beautiful bag. It's got a full expedition case. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Oh, what's in there? First of all, most importantly, a hip flask of whiskey and a little hip flask that comes with three little cups with it, which I bought on the side of Loch Ness with Dan on our little expedition. So that's in there, which is very important to keep your warm on your expeditions. You got grease of hip flask as well, didn't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:22 He filled it with the water from Loch Ness and I still have that. It's at my house in New Zealand. And there's also a lot of knives and torches and night vision goggles and other bits and pieces. But the Sasquatch cooler is in here, because obviously if we go on a hunt we're going to need to call some Sasquatches. And this was from our Chupacabra expedition. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Okay. And here is the sound. Why don't you just quickly play the scariest sound of the world and let's see if this can match it. Reese, you close your eyes. Okay. And like the AI test, like the Turing test, you have to guess which one is the correct one.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Okay, my eyes are closed. Ah, this is the Turing test! It's the Turing test, okay, but Reece doesn't know who's going first, so let's quickly communicate who should go first. I'll take these headphones off and look away as well. Okay, do you want to go first or should I? Whoever raises the largest number on their hand goes first. Yeah, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:31 So that's good. Okay, you ready? Yeah. Don't look. Okay. So here is the first... Here is the second scariest noise in the world. Hi guys, what did I miss? The second scariest noise in the world Let's go let's go again. Let's go get this time
Starting point is 00:44:16 The dead giveaway is where I can hear Leon go I had to get enough steam to get it going properly. Get steam away from the mic. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oh, that's good. That is good. Yeah. I could definitely tell which one was the recording for sure, but they're quite similar. And I am worried now that you're going to have a few Sasquatches heading towards your house as well.
Starting point is 00:44:46 You might want to have a look out your windows. I've just finished reading up on the Aztec whistle and apparently the original whistle sounds less sharp and shriek like than it is displayed in the sound we heard and the actual sound produced is far softer described as atmospheric noise generated by the wind. But yeah, just a pretty amazing discovery. 15 years going, what is this? And then someone blows into it and you hear, you know, that's a wild discovery. There is nothing worse though, right?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Than the sound of the scream of a child. And that does sound like that, you know, like it's the worst. As I think we have evolved to hear that. So we're used to it. Yeah. Because when you hear a screaming child, you know, to run, you know, do towards it, obviously to, to help it. Some would run the other way, but like, definitely there's an instinct that's in
Starting point is 00:45:42 our brain, part of our DNA process that we respond to shrieking, to screaming. And that's why screaming will always win over the wolf whistle. Yeah, yeah. You would hope so. You would really hope so. I wonder what the origin of the wolf whistle is because is it supposed to attract wolves? Why is it the wolf whistle?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Oh yeah. Let's see. Has the wolf whistle gone the way of the dodo? Oh, let's hope so because it's like the precursor to sexual harassment. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, here we go. The name comes from the wolf character in the popular 1943 Tex Avery cartoon, Red Ridinghood, who whistles in this way at the sexy female character Red.
Starting point is 00:46:35 No, no, no. You said Red Riding Hood, I think, but this is Red Hot Riding Hood. What? Oh, Red Hot Riding Hood. It is too. Red Hot Riding Hood. What is that? What? Oh, Red Hot Rod, it is too, Red Hot Rodding Hood. What is that?
Starting point is 00:46:46 It's a much sexier version, which is a animated cartoon short directed by Tex Avery in 1943. This is says, according to the censor, believed it was dirty minded and thought the film would promote bestiality between a woman and a wolf. Much like my book is promoting sex between Bigfoot and human in all good children's school libraries. Ah, it's so true. Fucking weird world. But it's about time to, uh... No. Okay. And I think, um...
Starting point is 00:47:23 Is that it? No? Okay. And I think... Sorry, somebody just rebooted my AI. It's that button's GPT delay. But you're right, you're very right. It is about time to move on to Cryptid Buzz before we finish this epic episode. Attention, all personnel! It's time for this week's Cryptid... Help me! So attention all personnel. It's time for this week's cryptid I've got a man here who has discovered some mysterious footprints in remote Kentucky woodland. Yeah alleged big footprints have appeared and This chap's not sure whether they're left by a human or something other. Something other? Yeah. I'm going with something other. So this article was in the Mirror. Mysterious
Starting point is 00:48:12 fresh humanoid they're calling them. Fully formed humanoid footprints. Wow. A man reckons he might have stumbled across big Prince while walking along a remote trail. Aaron Theil has just that. What? I know. I was just going to say the way you said Bigfoot Prince kind of sounded a little bit like he's come across Bigfoot Prince. I think that's because he has, you know, that's the whole issue of the article.
Starting point is 00:48:40 They're just Bigfoot Prince, but are they Bigfoot Prince? They're just big foot, but are they big foot? So Aaron said he was paying attention to the ground. He was walking along this trail. It was super muddy He didn't see anyone else around it was raining the whole time He said towards the end of his walk Aaron said he noticed a weird footprint now. This is actually interesting Dan because it was Darren said he noticed a weird footprint. Now this is actually interesting, Dan, because it was raining and so we know
Starting point is 00:49:07 that sometimes weather can extend an already put frint. What's he saying? Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha! Anyway, he's got a photo here. So if we can just share screen, I'll show you the photo. Share screen! Share screen. You went all Connery when you said that. here so if we can just share screen I'll show you the photo I know it's an issue I have now you'll see the issue with this photo too so there's the photo and off his foot. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But he has to the side but it's cropped out. No, it's just cropped out. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Jesus. And it can't just be one footprint, surely. It can't just be one piece of mud. Yeah. And that just seems crazy. It was muddy and definitely not a path to walk barefoot on, he said. He described the tracks as fresh and said they were imprinted much further into the mud than his shoe tracks, even though he weighs 300 pounds.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Big boy. Right, there you go. In some of the images, he lined his own size 12 boot next to the footprints showing them to be roughly the same size he admitted they were rather small for a Sasquatch but I think that's why he's cropped his own foot out manances in which he found them was still made him very suspicious What? In the fact that they were just feet? Hey let me share another one because he's taken another one And you'll see this one, this is from another walk Have we got his foot?
Starting point is 00:51:15 See this one here, now this one's Hey! It's smaller than his foot! It's smaller than his foot! He's saying this is a juvenile smaller than his foot! It's smaller than his foot! He's saying this is a juvenile He's saying in this picture, he's the big foot This is crazy! I think this is my favourite story we've ever done No, but in the second photo, he has got his foot in the photo, which is great. But he's wearing long jeans and the jeans cover where the heel is, so you can't even
Starting point is 00:51:56 see where the foot starts. You can only see half of his shoe. Half of his shoe, you can only see where the toe is. Worst foot to hominid measurement ever created. Someone has said, it looks like a foot that has been in a shoe. Be careful. What? It could be some nut that hangs out in the woods preying on hikers.
Starting point is 00:52:19 What does a foot that looks like it's been in a shoe look like? Doesn't that just look like a foot? No, it's got a tightness to it It's not all splayed out. So if you've never worn shoes You know if you don't wear them very often like Leon. Yeah, you'll be able to see that his toes quite openly Splay out right. Okay. That's a great lesson for me generally about when looking at you know Is it a basketball is foot? Yeah, is it a basketballer's foot? Is it a foot that has seen a shoe before?
Starting point is 00:52:48 These are new things. These are all new. Brilliant. I'm glad I've offered some, uh, some advice on my story, even if it's just for you guys. Thanks for that advice. But ultimately people are also saying, look, it's just a guy without shoes on. A third person says people walk in the mud on purpose because it's good for their feet but this guy's adamant that he's come across at least two bigfoots.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Listen he's trying though. Well see that's the reason why I walk around with bare feet as much as I possibly can. A because it's good for you with the mud squishing between your toes. But also so that later on, when I do go hiking barefoot, people are left wondering more. It's like it could be because look at it's laid out. It hasn't really had shoes on. It could be a juvenile Bigfoot. Or a juvenile podcaster. An aging podcaster
Starting point is 00:53:49 Alright, please do we have any other cryptic news? I've just got a slightly fun story here a little girl little three-year-old girl who had just seen the movie Monsters Inc Yeah Started claiming to her mom and dad that there was a monster in the walls of her room. She had a monster basically in the cupboard. They thought it was very cute. They gave her a bottle of water, said it was monster spray so that she could spray the
Starting point is 00:54:15 monsters away at night. She kept complaining, kept complaining. They thought her overactive imagination has created a monster. Anyway, after a few months they discovered that in fact she had 60,000 bees living in her room. No! Just breaking through the ceiling. Yeah, they'd spent eight months building a giant hive which was just in the outer layer
Starting point is 00:54:40 of her room. That's freaky. And her parents just gave her a bottle of water. A bottle of water. There you go, love, you'll be right. Sprinkle a bottle of that on her. Apparently the whole time she's freaking out every night going, seriously, mama, dad is a monster in my room. Oh yeah, yeah. Then this beekeeper come over and he took over 65,000 bees out of the wall. That's amazing. And relocated them to a honeybee sanctuary so they all survived. Oh good.
Starting point is 00:55:08 But it ended up costing the parents more than $20,000 in damages. Wow. Which perhaps might have been avoided had they listened to their three year old to begin with. Yeah sometimes as a parent you know yes kids have a bit of an imagination but there's always something truthful in it so please look into these matters a little bit more carefully. Don't just shrug them off. I did actually go look at an office once to move into and they said that they had to block
Starting point is 00:55:35 up all the vents because the exact same thing happened. Bees made a hive in the wall and they only found it because one day somebody lent against the wall and this one particular spot and the wall was burning hot and the middle of winter and they were like, is there some kind of heater behind here? Like, cause you could put your hand against the wall and it was almost too hot to touch the wall. It turns out there was a beehive in there and they generate so much heat that it hot to touch the wall. Turns out there was a beehive in there
Starting point is 00:56:05 and they generate so much heat that it was coming through the wall. It was almost like a heater. So in some ways what they've just done by spending $20,000 is removing a free heater in their house. They could have just left the bees there. Would you have?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah. Of course. Of course. Yeah, sure, there's 50,000 bees in that wall there but feel the heat on that. That's bloody good in the winter. I mean honestly. And what's that tap for coming out the side of the wall? Well, you get your toast, turn the tap on, free honey. Honey mate. We've got honey, we've got warmth, and if you have trouble sleeping at night, there's a nice little...
Starting point is 00:56:47 ... It'll get you off to sleep. That and the constant thought that there's 50,000 bees just through that wall there. Sweet dreams! Alright, so we're probably winding up there. It's been a hell of a ride. Alright, that's right. I've got an encore of a Limp Bizkit concert to go outside and listen to. So I'm going to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I'm so jealous. I can't believe Dick Lix's are playing in your band. Dick Lix, Dick Lix, Dick Lers! Split Dix-lixers! Split Dix-lixers! If you really want to go meet the band afterwards, you should quickly now get a couple of white t-shirts and make some fan art t-shirts of their alternate band names. He's wearing a blood fart shirt! Get him in backstage! He's clearly a big fan! Genius. Okay guys, I'm going to go and reboot my AI so that I can actually think today yeah yeah yeah I look forward to seeing the genuine buttons next week yeah all
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