The Cryptid Factor - #107 The Stopped Pod Issue

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Cryptid Factor with Rhys Darby, Dan Schreiber and Buttons. 2025. What a year to be alive. They've said they would be back. As interest, there's no lack. We are back! Yay! It's been a hot second of lack of interest. Turns out there was a slight lack of interest, but they have returned. Has anyone been asking for it since it's been off? No! I don't know. Yes, Mick Perrin and the organisers of the Edinburgh Fringe Festival have asked if we could please return to the airwaves to promote the podcast that's going to be live in the
Starting point is 00:01:35 festival. That's exciting news, just casually dropped there. We're going back to Edinburgh for anyone who doesn't follow us online. We're going back for five shows at the Fringe. Yes. Isn't it amazing that our podcast is just becoming an advertising mechanism for us to promote our live podcast? That's about all we've got time for today guys. Thanks very much. We'll see you live on stage in Edinburgh.
Starting point is 00:02:00 If you've seen us in audio mode and you enjoy what you're listening to now, imagine us visually. Wow. So that's what we've realised, is that we're actually even better than this in person. Yeah, that's true. So yeah, last year, you know, we did Edinburgh, it completely sold out the run. We had a great time. It was chaotic and in some ways the more chaos the better. Yeah. But we did actually end up really fitting into a tight mode of how the live show should be run by the time we got to the London edition. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And now, so going into this year's second Edinburgh season for us, we'll already hit the ground running with the format that works. So we'll possibly be less chaotic, but it'd be nice to get a little bit of some chaos in there. That's the only thing that we've got to offer is chaos. No, that's what you've got to offer. I think that- Yeah, I think we need to nip this in the bud buttons. I think there's a lot of jeopardy with this one this time. We're playing a much bigger venue this time.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah. And it might be fine for you guys, but I've got a career here. I can't have this die on its ass. You two boys fly off back to Hollywood and New Zealand and I'm stuck here. Pick up the pieces. Yeah, read the reviews. Yeah. Meet the people back in London going, cool, that was painful, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, what was that thing you did with those other two weird guys? What was, why are you doing that? It's like experimental theatre, guys. It's like one of those things that you don't know what you're going to get until you got it. And that's what I love. to get until you got it. And that's what I love. Exactly. It was pure fringe.
Starting point is 00:03:28 So just to reiterate those dates again, guys, welcome to the Cryptid Factor ad. And this is an hour long, this one. But yeah, so August the 5th through to August the 10th, five shows, Edinburgh Fringe Festival, the venue. You can Google it. I have to say though, the thought of going back to Edinburgh is really exciting. The memories of being there with the live audience. It's a better podcast for the sake of having people in the room with us. So from now on in, we should actually probably just only do it live and only go on the road. Why don't we just live this life and just be on constant tour?
Starting point is 00:04:06 I agree. Guys. I've got three more years before my youngest is out the door. I think Dan's probably got quite a long time. But your... My kids have moved out of home. But then yours are pretty much gone. You've got three years and then you're sort of free as well, right?
Starting point is 00:04:21 We timed that one well. We did. Yeah. Dan, we'll see in how many... Well, you got like another 12 years or something. We're sort of, we timed that one. Well, we did. Yeah. Dan, we'll see in how many, what you got like another 12 years or something. We'll start touring. We'll start touring in three years. We'll start just touring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We would have done the world about, I don't know, seven times by then. So, yeah, I love the idea of the podcast just being advertisement for the live shows. podcast just being advertisement for the live shows. Although people if they do want to watch us live as such or see the visuals, we do actually it's probably cheaper to join our Patreon and just watch what we're recording now in each of our living rooms. Yeah. Oh, and it's a fascinating watch, particularly buttons when you forget to take it off the
Starting point is 00:05:01 screen show and we just stare at your computer background as your main shot for 20 minutes. Is that what it is now? That's what it is right now. Oh shit, sorry. What a watch. Guys, see, this is the thing. How else would you look at my laptop? Guys, join the Patreon.
Starting point is 00:05:18 You get to look at my desktop. It's so exciting. Yeah, the guy with more tabs than you could ever imagine. Over 50 tabs. Doesn't everybody have 50 tabs open? That's good management. You never forget what you were looking at back in like three weeks ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Never close a tab. That's one of your rules, isn't it? It is. It is. You know, I just thought of something. Yeah. You know how we sell ads on the podcast now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Like some successful podcasts, like your other two, Dan, actually have like people buy ad spots with the podcasters have to read the ad and talk about, Oh yeah. We should buy an ad spot in our own podcast so that we legitimately have to advertise our live show on our podcast. But who's reading it? Cause we can't afford Reese. Oh true. Good point.
Starting point is 00:06:07 So good point. Yeah. I tell you what, I'll pay for me cause I enjoy listening to me. Great. You just want to button here actually. There's an amazing podcast I heard the other day called the Cryptid Factor. Have you heard that? Oh right.
Starting point is 00:06:19 No. Yeah. Really good. What happens on that? So it's these three guys, kind of two sort of geeky guys and kind of cool Hollywood actor guy. And they basically, they share the love of unclassified scientific hidden animals.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Right, right. And they also talk about the weekly world weird news. Wow. It's just fantastic. The banter. One of them in particular, beautiful voice. Doesn't sound like my cup of tea, actually. Thanks for the recommend, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It sounds a bit dorky. Well, no, no, for buttons. Good news. The Hollywood actor and the two geeks, actually, one of the geeks left and got recast as this hot hunk from Hong Kong slash Australia. It's really up the sexual energy of the show. I've got to say as an avid listener now, I have to agree with that. Yeah, there's this young Hongkinese hunk. After 17 years of trying to make this podcast famous,
Starting point is 00:07:18 we never realised that's what we were missing was sexual energy. Sexual energy. That's when you bring more sexual energy. Dammit! Fools. Oh. That's what we were missing was sexual energy. Sexual energy. That's when you had to bring more sexual energy. Damn it. Fools. Since the day I met you, I knew what you were missing was sexual energy. Wow, that joke threw buttered off a chair just then. Anyone on Patreon, you'll see it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That looked like he was hit by a sonic boom. I was. A sonic joke. That was good, Rhys, that ad. The only thing is you forgot to go, Stop the pod! Stop the pod! Hey guys! Oh, is that what they do? Yeah. Ah. Yeah, well some of them.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But we haven't started the pod because we're still in an ad. Well, it should be more, get the pod going! Can we get the pod, guys? Get the pod going! We're gonna start the pod so we. Get the pod going. Can we get the pod guys? Get the pod going. We're going to start the pod so we can start the ad read. How come nobody's ever bought an ad on the Cryptic Factor? How come nobody's wanted to put their brand against this genius? How is that possible?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Have we missed an email? Maybe there's like 200 emails and some unknown cryptic factor ad inbox. I don't know. Like, please, can you please talk about my product on your amazing podcast? Well, let's put it out there now, guys. If you've got a product and you want us to talk about it, email Helena and we'll discuss the situation and possibly we'll do your ad. Yeah. Right now, Apple computers are going, great news guys, they're open to ads.
Starting point is 00:08:49 All we need to do is email Helena. We all know her email address, don't we? I've got it tattooed on me. Listen, it's Mike here from Nike. Would you guys be interested? We've got $20 million worth of advertising spend to put it to you. In the two section of the email we just wrote to Helena. And then we sent that email.
Starting point is 00:09:12 We haven't heard back from you. So we've had to spend the 20 million elsewhere. Sorry. Ah, damn it. Because that would have been my fee too. So I would have definitely have talked about. Oh, shit, I already have. I said the N I K E word. Damn it. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Oh, I was talking about the, the Greek goddess. Right. Yeah. Yes. And, and Dan was talking about those laptops that are powered by apples. You know, remember how you used to get apples and put metal rods into them and link them all up together to make battery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah. Yeah. That's the Apple computers that Dan was talking about. He wasn't talking about Macintosh. Yeah. So we're good. Okay, we're good. To be fair, that's more our level of company who will be interested in advertising those.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Guys, we're here to talk today about Apple computers. Now you only need 2 2700 apples all connected together with little pieces of wire and that'll power your laptop for 27 seconds. Thanks Buttons and can I also suggest you go for Red Delicious. Those have just got the most moist energy in them. Ah, are you bringing sexual energy again?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Are you bringing sexual energy?? Are you bringing sexual energy? Well at least he's recognizing sexual energy now. If you want your computer to run a little bit slower, go for Granny Smiths. And that's just an example of the advertising power that we could bring your company. That on the spot, clever, wit. That's amazing. So yeah, give us an email now. Send to Helena.
Starting point is 00:10:46 All right. Thanks guys. Hey, just a quick shout out actually. Going to Edinburgh once again, like last year, would not actually genuinely be possible without our incredible Patreon cryptid knights. Yes. Like, let's face it, even a sold out run in Edinburgh is not enough to fly hosts from LA and New Zealand. That's not possible without our Patreon cryptid night family.
Starting point is 00:11:14 So a big shout out to them and a big thank you because that's actually what makes Edinburgh possible. Right? Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, we do give back. Like, didn't you give one of them a TV or something? Oh yeah. Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:11:28 That's the thing. That's the reason to come to Edinburgh. There are massive giveaways in our show. Last year, we gave away a 70-inch television, I think. Yeah. Well, we've got more time to plan our trip. Last time, we were improvising stays in Airbnb castles and going up to Loch Ness.
Starting point is 00:11:43 That's right. We can really map this out now. There's new things going on. We could finally get to that town that we were told about where people leave crisp packets on the top of their cars. Oh yes, attracts the aliens. Yeah, it's the most visited alien hotspots in that bit of the UK. There's a new mysterious hum that people are reporting over in Scotland. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah. So that's exciting. Well, I think that's what we'll do. We'll do some investigations while we're there. And so when we do the show at night, we'll actually have relevant information from our daily investigations. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah. But here's the thing. It's not just us doing our show. Darbs, you're bringing the live show to Edinburgh and the UK. That's right. We should get that advertisement. And actually, I might purchase myself here and do it now. Hi, Rhys Darby. I've got my solo show. Stop the pod! Stop the pod! Stop the pod!
Starting point is 00:12:38 So you have to do it right. Oh, God. Sorry. I might actually do that. Reinstate the pod. What is it? Stop it. Go the pod. Go the pod. Stop the pod. It's the first time I've ever heard this, but you're obviously an avid podcast listener. Yeah, so Rhys Derby, The Legend Returns, UK tour and Ireland. So it's happening right now as you're listening to this.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I'm assuming this is coming out very soon. If not, the tour was a complete success. Every show was sold out. Thank you so much guys for coming. Guys, it goes to show the power of advertising on the Cryptid Factor podcast. Reece has sold out his show in the future. It just, he just. Wow. It's unsold at the moment. There's hardly any tickets and he just projected into the future
Starting point is 00:13:30 that's gonna be sold out from this ad, which might not even make it out in time. See, that's the power of it. Wow. Stop the pod. Stop the pod again, guys. This is a triple stop on this pod. Time travel.
Starting point is 00:13:42 That's right. Yeah, so basically check reesterby.com for your full details. But if I was to quickly Google it now, hey Google, when does the Reece Darby UK tour start? Rez Darby's UK tour, The Legend Returns, starts on Friday May 30th, 2025, in Nottingham at the Nottingham Playhouse. Who Darby was that? That's Rez Darby's show.
Starting point is 00:14:07 When's the restart? Have you seen Rez Darby's show? It is, he is huge right now in the UK. No! Apparently his podcast is sold out. Well yeah, because he manages to start it. The key to a good podcast is starting it. And Rez Darby is the king of starting podcasts.
Starting point is 00:14:26 He's a tryhard, that guy. I don't enjoy him. He's too, you know, prepared for my liking. But don't go see his show. Go and see my show. Yes. Which kicks off next week as well. The Nottingham Playhouse by any chance? Yeah, actually it is.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It's oh, God, that's embarrassing. I'm doing the same venue as. Why, you're opening! Oh no. You're opening for Riz Derby! Reece is opening for Riz. And he's always, Riz is always more popular with the ladies, obviously. So it's in the name. He's prepared. That's sexual energy.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's sexual energy. Prepare to sexual energy. Well, yeah, go to Reece's site. Book now. Yeah. Nottingham, 30th of May. And then I do the Alley Pally. This is the big one, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:03 The London show. The London show. The London show. The London show. Prepare to sexual energy. Yeah, go to Reese's site, book now. Yeah, Nottingham 30th of May. And then I do the Ali Pali. This is the big one, guys. The London show, the 31st of May. Guess what? Can I just put there, there may be a guest appearance. No.
Starting point is 00:15:17 The Ali Pali. Yeah. Well, have you cleared it with Riz? He's the one that's invited me. Oh, no. To be in the audience at Ali Pali. That's classic Riz because I would never invite you. You'd just turn up for me but he likes to be prepared. He puts invites out.
Starting point is 00:15:35 God I hate that guy, he's so slick. He's slick and I'm slack. So Buttons you're in the UK then, not in Tiladner bro, but you're going to come and visit Rees. Yeah I'm going to come visit Rees. I have to be in Germany a week before and then I'm gonna just decided now before you join this Zoom call, Dan, that I'm gonna pop over and go and hang out at the Alice Palace. Awesome. Very cool. That's gonna be a big one. Maybe I could do the opening act for Rees Derby before Rees Derby does the opening act for Riz Darby.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Oh yeah, so things start terribly and slowly get better throughout the evening. I like that. Alright, well moving right along, let's do the podcast. I think we're out of time. I think that's an hour's worth of bullshit advertising. Wow. Advertising's never been so exhausting. You can see why we don't do it on this show. Yeah. It's knackering.
Starting point is 00:16:34 That that's actually true. The most embarrassing part is I own an advertising agency. This is how I do it. Now you're starting to realise why things aren't working out so great. Exactly. Things are a bit tight at the moment. Unlike your ads. So stop the pod.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Stop the pod. UFO rodeo. On sale this week. Cheap advertising. If you like hour long podcast ads, just email Helena. And we'll do some advertising for you. Was that good? We've really fallen off.
Starting point is 00:17:10 If we put all of this out without editing, the promoters for the Edinburgh Fringe are going to say, okay, well this is why no one turned up. Alright, let's do the news. Weekly World Weird News. Crazy. Freaky. Watch out. Alright. What do we got? I got one, should I read it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah, I'll leave mine to the last because my one's the end of humanity, so. Ah, okay. We'll close on yours. Uh, chat GPT has started reading tea leaves and performing divination and as a result a woman has filed for divorce after chat GPT told her that her husband was starting an affair. No. Oh. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:50 This better not be one of those Shriver reveals, will we find out it's Finn. Hahaha! Zone 1! Are you having an affair with Riz Darby? That would be the clanger. Hey, when you've got all this sexual energy, it needs to go somewhere. Okay, well, here's my one. Seriously deep sleeper, not woken by ship crashing into his garden. No, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:21 No. That's interesting. Okay. Well, my one, which is a little bit of a downer is that scientists have basically, okay. Just come up with the headline and do it. You've had three months. I've just read that this article, a big warning came up on my article just that second on The Guardian saying, this article is more than three years old. Damn it. And I've been sitting on this one all week.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I know this is genius. This is brilliant. And the worst part is you said it was the end of humanity, but it's three years old. Damn it. It's turned into a good news article. Now you can say, good news guys, stop the pod. The end of humanity is not happening. Unless the headline in the article says, we've got three years before the end of humanity arrives.
Starting point is 00:19:17 If you remember, my last news article was the fact that we're starting to use AI and large language models to be able to communicate with animals. So we all have to go vegan because once we start hearing what the cows and the sheep and all of these animals that we consume, once we know they have feelings, then we can't eat them anymore, moralistically. The headline of this article was that scientists have found a way to communicate with mushrooms and have discovered that they have a language of up to 50 words. Oh my God. Fascinating.
Starting point is 00:19:57 That's proving that plants can communicate and have feelings and a sentient effectively, and we can't eat the plants as well. And what is there left for humans to consume? Interesting. Shit. Fruit. No. Should we get into it, this one?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Because it is interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Well, let's get into it, yeah, because it's three years old, so we don't want to wait another 10 minutes. I think, so what are we thinking? Well, 50 words doesn't necessarily mean emotion. It means that it's using our language to recognise and give a label to what they're
Starting point is 00:20:32 doing. But what do you mean? I've only got 47 words and I can show that I've got emotion. Yeah, that's true. But we're not sure you definitely are sentient. We think that's what this podcast is. It's a big long-term experiment. With 47 words, can you prove that you have always thought that you're basically a human mushroom what are the words do we know what the words are? I know what buttons his ones are. I know his 47. There's hi guys!
Starting point is 00:21:09 That's two. That's two words. That's two. That's all you need. That's all you need. There's your mic on. Stop the pod! Stop the pod! Stop the pod? That's one of his new ones. When he comes out with a couple of new ones he hates them a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Thank you. Then he drops a couple of his old ones. You might not get high guys anymore. So what? High? What's high? It's gone. It's gone.
Starting point is 00:21:35 It's what you are constantly because you're a mushroom. I'm on mushrooms! I know what it is. It's I'm high guys. I'm high guys! This podcast is starting to feel like a psilocybin journey. That is actually what I'm starting to feel. Anyway, it's got an electrical language and they can like talk to each other
Starting point is 00:21:55 and they can now put, you know, probes down into the ground and like effectively measure that they are communicating with each other. And Professor Andrew Adamsky, hang on. Oh, hang on. Andrew Adamsky. Hang on. Isn't he a science fiction author? Is he?
Starting point is 00:22:12 No, wait. Adam Adamsky. No, he's not. He's a ufology name. Yeah, Adamsky. He's got something to do with tassels. Yes. He's the guy who invented tassels.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Like, he looked at some leather jackets and went, I'll tell you what these need. Was he the first guy? Adamski. It's a familiar name. Some of our listeners will know. Yeah, he's definitely UFO. Anyway, he says, we do not know if there's a direct relationship between spiking patterns and fungi in human speech.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Possibly not. Adamski said, on the other hand, there are many similarities in information processing and living substrates of different classes, families and species. I was just curious to compare. And so he compared split gills, which grow on decaying wood and whose fruiting bodies resemble undulating waves of tightly packed coral. That's actually what people have actually defined my body as in the past. People have actually said to me, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I've been taking my clothes off and getting ready for a bit of jiggy, jiggy time. And they have actually said to me, oh, your fruity body resembles undulating waves of tightly packed coral. That's what actually people have said. So I am clearly that proves your point. I am a mushroom. So, Oh my God. And do they still do the deed with you?
Starting point is 00:23:32 No, but yeah. But those ones, the split gills with the tightly packed coral bodies, they generated the most complex sentences of all. Like me, I've only got 47 words, but I turn them into very complex sentences that not many people can understand. Yeah, I mean, here's what I'll say. I think, you know, that's all very good and well. It doesn't really surprise me that, you know, living organisms of any sort have a connection
Starting point is 00:24:03 to each other, because that's everything on this planet I think is connected in one way shape or form and it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be eating each other because I think you know I think animals in general eat each other to survive it's just a part of life yeah you know small fish bigger fish slightly bigger fish it's just the way it goes yeah well that's true to say okay, everyone stop eating each other. All of you, all you animals, all you plants, that's it. Oh yeah, that's true. What do we do then?
Starting point is 00:24:30 What are we eating? Chocolate bars. I don't know. Okay. You just get round up all the fish. Okay guys, chocolate bars now, okay. Pup, pup, pup, pup. Tiny chocolate bars for you.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Now, oh, we should have taken the wrappers off some of these. The fish can't, open them. The final sentence of this three year old article says, though interesting, the interpretation as language seems somewhat over enthusiastic, which again defines me, over enthusiastic. See, this article was made for me. I think that's the main thing we've got from this article is that you're a human mushroom.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Well, there's also one outstanding element of you we've not mentioned that relates you as a mushroom. Yeah. You're a fun guy. Oh, there you go. There it is. I love the pause for effect my you big goblet of red wine. Well, that's one to watch on the Patreons, guys. If you're teetering on the idea of signing up for Patreon, there it is there. So you've got a beautiful video shot of Dan Schreiber with his glass of wine
Starting point is 00:25:38 and just relishing on the moment of giving his punchline through, which was, of course, perfect. And none of us saw it coming through, which was of course perfect. And none of us saw it coming. And it was the most basic. I mean, rewind it if you haven't heard it. It was obvious, but I still didn't see it. And then, wow, what a delivery. There we go. Sexual energy.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Oh my God, yes. With gags like that, we could have a chat to some people to see whether or not Dan Schreiber could open for Buttons. Oh, wow! Who's going to open for Reece Darby. who's going to open for Riz Darby. That's an honour. So you go on at 3.30pm. You put that one joke.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And I come on with my 47 word set. Oh yeah, I want to hear the 47 words just all laid out in the order that he got them in. Yeah. I'll be introduced to the stage. I'll stay silent for my entire 10 minute set until the last 10 seconds where I say, well, it's time to bring on your next act. What can I say about him? He's a fun guy. And there it is.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And there's the drink. Look at the glass. I mean, it mean it's amazing. But unfortunately, stop the pod, stop the pod, we do have to carry on. No, continue the pod, that's what you need to say, continue the pod, continue the pod. We can't stop it anymore, it hasn't even started.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Just to add, George Adamski is the name, Polish-American ufologist, most famous contactee basically of the world of UFOs. He was the first person who claimed that he was taken on a spaceship out into the universe and he wrote numerous books and kind of like really like popularized UFO encounters in his day. Died in 1965, like that's how old this idea was that he was. Yeah. He was born in 1891. So yeah, he said he met with a friendly Nordic alien called them Space Brothers. And he said he flew to the moon and other planets with them. Wow. That's amazing. I should have known that. I've literally have a film script that has
Starting point is 00:27:42 him in the film script in and around the professor Leon Festinger who came up with the term... what's it called? That term? Oh shit I'm outside of my 47 words. Yeah you're outside of your limit. Damn it! Unfortunately he got to 47. Damn it! Outside of the 47. Oh god. Hang on, I'll just get rid of a couple. Cognitive dissonance. Oh. Now I can't remember my mother's name. Oh, that's a shame. But I know cognitive dissonance.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Oh, that's good. That's good. Wow. Did you write the scripts? Is it a short movie? Like how many... How much mileage do you get out of those 47? He repeats them a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:20 He repeats them. There's a lot of repeats. Hi guys! Hi! Hi guys! Hi! Hi guys! Hi! Hi guys! Exterior day. George Shadamsky walks on to the scene. Says hi guys, the end. I think I read that one but I wasn't interested in the role. I turned it down. I didn't have two minutes of spare time to shoot it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Okay, here we go. Listen to this. Seriously, Deep Sleeper, not woken by a ship crashing into his garden. Helberg had been sound asleep when a 135 meter long container ship ran aground on Thursday. And I love to pronounce the place. I'll give it a bash. Trondheimshvord off Bündeset in Trondheim. Okay. What country is that? Norway. In Norway. Okay. So forgive me the Norwegians for my pronunciation, but I won't be too far out of the ballpark there. Maybe a
Starting point is 00:29:30 couple of streets over. Oh man this is so crazy. So basically this ship just ran aground just a few meters from his house. house. I've got to show you the video. Holy shit. What? It's the most weird photo. So we're looking at the photo of quite a large container ship that is just wedged into the, it's like the size of the house. This ship is like, well, let's count it.
Starting point is 00:30:05 It's one, two, three, four, five, six, about seven, uh, 40 foot containers long. So seven times 40 is, um, 40, 80. Oh, what are you rambling on about? It's just a giant ship guys. I'm just trying to work out the feet of it. It's a massive container ship. Four seventeen. Two ships at fourteen. A normal container ship.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Two fourteen's at almost thirty. And it's run aground on the beach right next to his house. Keep going Reyes, don't let him... Don't let him... Boat. Keep doing the math. It's a seven forty foot container so it's a thirty foot long ship. It's four hundred and forty three feet so it's a 30 foot long ship. It's 443 feet.
Starting point is 00:30:46 You could have just asked me. Right, there you go. He crashed in like at five o'clock in the morning. He was only alerted to the commotion by his panicked neighbour who had watched the ship as it headed straight for shore. The doorbell rang at the time of day when I don't like to open, he said. Don't tell me the bow of the ship came up and stopped right on the doorbell and went ding dong!
Starting point is 00:31:12 That would be amazing! Ding dong! No, not getting up at another hour of the day. Don't be stupid. I totally relate to the bits of the day where you don't open the door. I'm absolutely on board with the Norway man. Fair enough too. He says, I went to the window and was quite astonished to see a big ship.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I had to bend my neck to see the top of it. It was unreal. Amazing, isn't it? Incredible. I was sure that he was already outside, but no, there was no sign of life, the neighbour said. I rang the doorbell many times and nothing. And it was only when I called him on the phone that I managed to contact him, the neighbor said. So the ship itself had 16 people on board and was traveling southwest through the Trondheimfjord to Orkanger when it went off course.
Starting point is 00:32:02 No one was injured. Thank goodness. That's the best part about this whole thing. No one was injured in the incident. It is not known what caused the crash and Norwegian police investigating. The most interesting thing about this article is the fact that there clearly is a dilemma with the person who writes the article when they discover that not only have you got your headline, ship crashes on land, almost hits a house, but then the guy says, I'm a really deep sleeper so I didn't hear it, and they've gone, fuck, what do I do? That's really serious deep sleeping.
Starting point is 00:32:34 That's like a double headline, and then just didn't make a decision. We've got two headlines there. Oh yeah. Because what is it? It's seriously deep sleeper, not woken by the ship crashing in his garden. Yeah. The ship is almost irrelevant. We have found someone who is a serious deep sleeper here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And here's how deep it is. A ship crashed in his yard and he didn't know. What will he not wake up to next? Yeah! I mean, he should be in the seriously deep sleeping competitions if there is such a thing. There is sleeping competitions, yeah. Is there? Wow, this dude is sleeping competitions. Yeah, it's there Wow, this dude needs to enter. Yeah, absolutely
Starting point is 00:33:08 So the video on this one I know that was just an ad. Oh my god. You've played someone else's ad on our show. Oh, we have to pay them now There's the guy. Yeah, sound asleep. You know, I like to have a good sleep and put the ship... just came up to the door, rang the doorbell. The ship rang the doorbell. And I said, I'm not getting up this hour of the night.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Still dark, you know, 5am. You've got to be kidding me. I don't care how big a ship you are, you know. You can wait your turn. And I mean, I ordered some stuff from Amazon. I didn't expect it to come this quickly. But you know. Imagine that. A guy throws an Amazon package off the front of it
Starting point is 00:34:04 and goes, there you go. No, that is what he ordered. He ordered that. That's the opposite of what happens in my house, which is that we order something we think is normal size and it rides and it's like a little Barbie doll sized house thing, right? He hears his grandkid is staying over for the weekend. He's bought him a little container ship.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I love it. I love it. I love it. Do you know, I did read at the bottom of the article there, Reece, that that ship has ran aground last year as well. Really? Yeah. Maybe that ship's cursed. Maybe they were playing the song from Titanic, that cursed song. Maybe that came on.
Starting point is 00:34:41 There you go. Celine Dion. Celine Dion. My Love Will Go On. Yeah. Or that came on. Celine Dion. Celine Dion. My Love Will Go On. Yeah. Or whatever it is. Nice callback to an average story that Dan did a while back. Pretty memorable it sounds like. Okay, I take that back. This is about the only callback we've ever done in the entire podcast history so it must have been pretty good. Technically best story ever told then, yeah. The guy in the video by the way, I mean we were on a tiny screen because we still had the main thing open, but he looked very much like he could be related to Sean Connery.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Am I right in saying that when you were looking at it? That guy looked like Norways Connery. Could be. Norways Connery. He did actually. Looking at it now, no I don't think so. He doesn't quite have the looks there mate, it's just an old man. Nice thought though. Nice thought. Good thought though, right? I saw a sort of an older white guy with a bit of a scraggly beard and white hair. Would he be Sean Connery's twin? Well, you mock
Starting point is 00:35:36 it now, but when Buttons is making a callback to it 20 episodes from now, I think we'll find one of the golden moments of the show. The Sean Connery callback. Oh God, all right. One of the, for me personally anyway, one of the- Oh, this is just personally for you, is it? This is just personally for me, so everybody. Just go make yourself a cup of tea or something. Hey, just a personal moment for me here, guys.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm loving the show, but just a little personal for me anyway. Stop the pod. Stop the pod. I just want a personal moment here I'm paying for this time I've just bought this moment guys I didn't realise! This is marketing! People love personal stories Are you advertising personal stories? At UFO rodeo we tell deep personal stories UFO rodeo he's chucked that in so that'll be good Another $27? Is that how much it costs to have a classic?
Starting point is 00:36:27 If you're doing the podcast, can you advertise the UFO Rodeo personal story moments that we try and offer people? No, one of the markers of success for this podcast, for me, will be the point that we are given a research vessel, a ship to go into the oceans and basically go look for cryptids. And that ship there, take the containers off, it looks like a perfect research vessel. So I'm just thinking if now that it's been crashed and like it's free to a good home, then I'm just putting it out there that we could, you know, it's just a personal marker
Starting point is 00:37:04 of success to have a ship, a research ship. Yes. The other thing is too, just to interrupt that ad. Stop the ad! Stop the ad! AirBnBeasts. Yeah. We could get that guy's house there.
Starting point is 00:37:17 That's the perfect one. Yeah. We can add that to our list. Obviously there's not really a beast, but I guess the sea monster of the ship is the beast that came in. We pay to have the ship lift again. Oh, you sleep on the ship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Or, every morning at 5am, we reverse the ship and ram it into the house again, just to see if people can sleep through it. It's like an AirBnBeast challenge. I like it. Yeah. But hey, just on the mention of AirbnBest, my uncle, the three of us need to chat to, we should get him on the show to talk about it. He is a lifelong hotelier. He's a massively successful hotelier.
Starting point is 00:37:54 He loves AirbnBest, and he wants to help us run it. He wants to set it up and make it happen. Hang on. This might be the second ever callback. Is this, by any chance, Dean and Bettina? Is this by any chance Dean and Patina? Dean and Patina. Dean and Patina! The haunted hotel in Tibet.
Starting point is 00:38:10 The haunted hotel, which is a Shriver reveal about he was the ghost, the haunting of the hotel. And Dan was there and saw a levitating glass or something like that, that smashed. Yeah. That was the very famous, very first Shriver reveal, wasn't it? It was. It was. Oh my god, two callbacks on one episode. All about memorable moments, guys. That's my role here. 20 episodes after I say the thing. I thought the show was about tangents. Damn it, we're sad to lose that. But yeah, so I mean, this could be a real thing for us and we could have a haunted
Starting point is 00:38:45 ship in there. We can have that guy's house. It's very good. I love it. Yeah. OK, well, next time we're actually physically together, we should arrange a meeting. Edinburgh. Oh, yeah, there we go. Can we get Dean and Patina to Edinburgh to do a live on stage whiteboard session about how we buy houses and all of the cryptid hotspots around the world.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And people can see us work out our business model. Yeah. So the live shows will just be our business plan working together. Yeah. And people can be. I'm just looking at the tweets that we've just sold for the Edinburgh Fringe. I've just actually, I've just seen that somebody's asked to have them refunded. Just right there. Maybe that's not a good idea. Well, it's only the three of us know what's happening right now, so I think it's obviously one of us that have just asked for some refunds.
Starting point is 00:39:34 It was me, as I pointed out earlier. I'm actually quite respected in this country in my career. And you were originally going to take your family to one of the shows, but you've just asked for a refund from your own show. It's just going to be a business meeting. Two of your family members who were going to come to the show were Dean and Petina. You've just refunded their tickets for them. Oh, wow. Perfect. Okay. Well, Dan, why don't you do your stories?
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah. Okay. So a woman has ended her marriage because chat GPT has told her to because she had the new Area of chat GPT, which is a divination thing read the coffee grind the leftover coffee residue and the cup of her husband and it alerted her to the fact that he is going to be having an affair and that he was fantasizing about a woman whose name started with the letter E and That she was trying to destroy the family So he said she's often into trendy things one day She made us drink Greek coffee and thought it would be fun to take pictures of the cups and have chat GPT read them
Starting point is 00:40:42 He didn't take it seriously. he said I laughed it off as nonsense, she didn't, she told me to leave, informed our kids about the divorce, and the next thing I knew I was getting a call from the lawyer. And that man was... So, uh, Fenella's back on the market, which is great. I was gonna say the crux of that story is that guy married a loopy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I do have to say that is the problem though, that chat GPT is in these large language models, people are really genuinely starting to rely on them in really big ways. Yeah. My wife, Michelle, she's got some medical stuff coming up and she's quite anxious about it and she found herself talking to chat GPT saying, Hey, I'm a little bit anxious about this medical stuff I've got coming up. Can you talk me through it?
Starting point is 00:41:36 And she said after like a 20 minute conversation with chat GPT saying, Hey, look, don't freak out about it. This is what they do. And it's actually not as bad and it's fine to feel you know anxiety around medical stuff. She felt genuinely soothed and calm out the back end of it. Which is fantastic, that's so good. Until you start asking it, is my husband having an affair? Please look at my tea leaves. And it's not far, but I mean Michelle just said actually the other day she's drinking more tea. It's only one step away that she just has to take please look at my tea leaves and it's not far but I mean Michelle's just said actually the other day
Starting point is 00:42:05 she's drinking more tea and it's only one step away that she just has to take a photo and find out that... and find out what? Anyway I've run out of 47 words, 47 words guys, 47 that's all I've got. Well that was just that was lucky but the biggest story is exactly that. It's chat GPT and people's reliance on it. And it's getting really scary. And the very young are really relying on it. And according to, you know, your Sam Altmans, they're saying that the chat GPT, they're asking advice every day
Starting point is 00:42:39 as to what to do for the day. Or shall I go and do this? Shall I make, and with decision-making. That is the gateway drug there that you mentioned with Michelle. And that does work to actually get an analytical, straight up soothing reply from a brain that is telling you to calm down and logically think that this is going to be okay, which is sometimes all you need. Often humans don't even give that to you. And it's well within its range to be able to do that and you get something out of that and she did. But you're
Starting point is 00:43:07 in then and you think, right, also, oh, I've got another decision to make. Do I go this way or do I go that way? And then now you rely on it. Yeah. But to be fair, it's not that much different though from using astrology or tarot cards to inform a direction of your day. Yeah. And you can take the advice or not, but sometimes it gives you a left field answer that makes life more adventurous. And I don't know, weirdly, I feel like using AI in that respect is actually quite harmless. Yeah. Well, in some ways, the only challenge is one of the big fears of using these chat GBTs in such a big way, the large language models can start
Starting point is 00:43:48 to and is, they've proven, starting to emit words because they don't get used enough so it actually starts to purge words and actually starts to make certain words functionally redundant. Really? Yeah. Is that just your chat GPT though? Have they gone, oh he only has 47, we don't need the rest here. You've hit the limit. Get out bed, go work, now. Hey guys! Okay. But no, but in George Orwell's Animal Farm, that was one of the things they
Starting point is 00:44:22 said if you stop using the word freedom and omit that from the language, then do you know the concept of freedom and do you remove freedom by removing the concept and the word freedom? People are worried that using these language models, they can be engineered by these, as they say, godfathers of AI.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'd like to add, there should be some godmothers in there as well. They're too sensible. They wouldn't. Exactly. If we had more godmothers of AI we wouldn't be in this predicament. Yeah but listen what's the difference between the loss of language there and the loss of language that we have in our own day-to-day life? We now use text to speak. Oh yeah. And there must be a lot of words that we're dropping now. And punctuation. Yeah. I remember back in the day not using LOL because I just thought it was so bad. I thought it was cheapening the idea of humor. I'm not a big laugh out loud guy anyway. When I find something
Starting point is 00:45:18 funny I'll just like internally really embrace it in my mind. So I was very much like I didn't use it. And then you you know, weeks passed, and then eventually I went, no, I think it's quite easy to use, isn't it? It's quite good. So I ended up using LOL. But yeah, that is the world we're living in right now is the reliance on this AI, and it's getting scary.
Starting point is 00:45:35 You're gonna hear more and more of these types of stories. I've read one article with a woman who had an affair with her AI, left her husband for the AI, because she was getting the positive affirmations he wanted every time she asked it anything. And in the end, because depending on what your subscription is to it, when you reach your limit of questions or whatever,
Starting point is 00:45:56 then it completely resets. And so it wouldn't remember anything that she'd said to it the week before. And then she got really upset that, you know, the relationship she was having with this thing completely went, sorry, who are you again? What do you want me to do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Hang on, that's like a normal relationship with a dude. Well, certainly with me. Every week, Michelle's like, I told you last week. I'm like, sorry, I've reset. I've got a whole new 47 words. Yeah, or you've got to say this. Look, your subscription has reached its limit. If you do want to pay a little bit more, you get a whole bunch more memory.
Starting point is 00:46:32 You're on the 47 word limit. I so hope that, what's his name? Who writes Black Mirror? I hope he's listening to this. Charlie Brooker. Charlie Brooker is listening to this. He goes, brilliant, brilliant. He's not listening to this.
Starting point is 00:46:43 He's not listening to this, isn't he? You don't know! We're giving him a free ad here. Charlie Brooker, if you're out there listening to this, email Helena. Yeah, get yourself an ad on here. Get yourself a decent ad on here. Or, remember we did those ones where we do the ads and then if they don't pay us for the ads, what did we used to do?
Starting point is 00:47:04 I did some of those for the alcohol and stuff, remember? You did, you did. And I said, if you guys don't pay up, well, I'll never drink this again. Remember, that was what we did. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Rhys, I don't know if it counts, if you do callbacks to your own callbacks.
Starting point is 00:47:19 You can't, you can't. I see what you're doing. He's trying to get in my memorable moments. You step away. I generate memorable moments. Magic memory moments. Look, the tangents isn't working out for me anymore. Okay, I'm switched up to memorable moments. It seems to be the new trend.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Bring back your own memorable moments. Oh. You guys will remember one of my ones, eh? At any point now, you guys will remember an amazing moment that I took. Oh yeah, oh hell yeah. So many. Too many. I was out the other night with a few people who work in academia and they all use GPT
Starting point is 00:47:57 now. All of them. And they're not even hiding, no embarrassment about it. They're like, it works. We asked for deep dives on academic papers that we're writing and it comes back and it's properly sourced and we double check it. Yeah, so sure, yes, but like it's working. So, you know, we'll have a lot of listeners right now going, shut up Dan, don't push the agenda of the chat GPT and
Starting point is 00:48:21 I'm not. I'm reporting. That's a report. Yeah. That's from the field. Yeah. I think you've just got to have a healthy relationship with it. Every week. A healthy relationship for a week and then reset that healthy relationship. Or pay a bigger subscription so it remembers you. But yeah, having an AI mate, big trend right now with all the loneliness in the world. Yeah, but I don't know if it gives you resilience because being a friend means that you have to be
Starting point is 00:48:51 there for messy moments for people and be there to help pick them up when they're down and have to put up with being disappointed and all that concept. Well, that's actually being a friend with me. I know that's what all of my friends report on being a friend with me. But you know what I mean? With the chat GPT, if it's always happy, if you know, I kind of been disappointed. It's one way. Yeah. And it goes, great question, Leon. I know that's not a great question. That's an average question. Just stop trying to pump up my tires. That's what I feel with them. I've had a little bit of a dabble. So a little bit like cheesy and a little bit like desperate.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And like as Kiwis and, you know, Hongkinese people, we kind of were a little bit less susceptible to the bullshit. Guarded, more guarded is one of our things. So we, someone goes a little bit over the top with their, oh, great to see you. Hey, no, we need to do this. We love your thing. And we go, oh yeah, is that right, mate? I mean, that comes from the British psyche as well, I think. We're very much like,
Starting point is 00:49:49 nah, whatever, mate. We're not listening to that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Doubt it. Absolutely. That reminds me, guys, remember back on that episode quite a while ago when I introduced ChatGPT and we did those scripts, ChatGPT wrote those movie scripts and I brought Chet GPT to the table. I'm not sure we've done that. And I did that. When was that? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:50:12 And there was that really memorable moment where I introduced Chet GPT to the podcast. Not ringing any bells. I'm angry because I do really remember that and I remember even where I was because I was at Metacana. I was in the spare bedroom. Memorable moment. Yeah, it was beautiful sunlight coming through the blinds. Yeah, there you go. Oh, no, but that's that's next level.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Memorable moment. Reece remembers the sunlight. The room he was in. Oh, my God, am I winning memorable moments? I've taken over from your memorable moment buttons and I've made it my own. I've added a few more details. The sun was coming through the blinds.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It was beautiful. I could hear the ocean as well. That's memorable memories of memorable moments. Do you know the sad thing is, I remember those moments better than I remember my moment and I wasn't even in that moment to remember Yes Good, but I remember that was a long time ago. You might have been the first one to introduce your chat GPT to the world
Starting point is 00:51:20 Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I think I did the same thing with Zoom. That's right. You invented Zoom. Yeah. Another memorable moment. To be fair, you have introduced us to the future quite a lot of times. It's future buttons. It is future buttons and he's so ahead that we forget where we first met it. But yeah, you introduced our listeners to Zoom, not only us, you know. If the owner of Zoom is out there now and wants to email Helena with my shares in Zoom for helping come like this. Just send those shares through please. To Helena. Thank you. She's our money penny.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Hey, we should say quickly, Helena has just been on Everest for the last month, which is... Oh my god, yeah, what was that about? Yeah. You just send your kids off to Nepal and let them climb Everest? What kind of responsible parents are you? No, I'm kind of a little bit gutted. So, Helena just decided all of a sudden with her really lovely partner, I can't remember his name, I've run out of words, I think.
Starting point is 00:52:25 No, Stepan. They just decided to go off Nepal. And this is the challenge. It's the one place I desperately want to go is to Nepal and to the Himalayas. Yeah. And do you know that a number of years ago, I came up with an idea for a TV show, which ended up getting made called Everest Rescue, the helicopters that go up and rescue people.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And I was like, that's a TV show. It ended up getting made, but I got totally cut out of the deal. And everybody, even some of my own staff went to Nepal, went all the way up to Everest Base Camp. I didn't get to go. And now my daughter rubs it in my face and she goes to Nepal before me. I'm 50 years old. I still haven't gone to Nepal.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And she goes and she had a great time. You know, the one thing that she did do for me though, she took the, you know, the, the Hillary backpack for Christmas last year. She made for me a replica of the expedition flag from Hillary's expedition. So she took that back. So now this replica flag has been to the Himalayas. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah. I've seen that photo. That was cool. Yeah. She had a fantastic time. No discovering yeti, sadly. Okay. Though she did go to base camp.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Not Everest base camp, a different base camp. Which base camp? That's a place that sells tent pegs and stuff. It's down at the bottom. It's near the airport. It's called base camp. She gots and stuff. It's down at the bottom, near the airport. It's called Basecamp. She got a little sleeping bag. What's the internet like up in Nepal? Because this might make sense why we haven't got any of our Apple, Zoom or Nike ads in.
Starting point is 00:53:57 We're sending all that to her inbox and she's in Nepal climbing mountains. No wonder. She needs to facilitate her ads better. climbing mountains. No wonder. She needs to facilitate her ads better. One little piece of news I haven't laid on you guys yet is the other person coming to the Edinburgh live shows is Helena. No way! Game on! Not the Himalayan expeditionist. Yes she's coming. She can maybe open for us and talk about her expeditions. She can open before Dan. Before me. Before Dan opens me. Before opens like. Her stuff must be really bad. It's going on just after lunch. Oh, that's cool. I like that the editor of the show is having bigger adventures than any of us. Yeah, that's true. The show. Can I just bring us back into the world of sort of like content for a second? Yes, okay, briefly.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Just an extra note. I mean, it's now about two hours long, this unedited podcast, so we should briefly just put some content into it. Just quickly. Just a super quick bit. I don't mean to ruin the show. But just as an extra added bit to talk about George Adamski earlier, a bit in my head kept just clanging around going,
Starting point is 00:55:09 what the hell did Reese mean that they came down with tassels? Who's this tassels thing? He had a thing which was called the interplanetary travels that he did with the Space Brothers and that spread out to other UFO investigators who became obsessed with it and had their own supposed encounters that included Howard Menger, Daniel Fry, Truman Betherem, and George Van Tassel. There it is. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:55:36 And they all spread the message of the Space Brothers. They did it through books, lectures, conventions, particularly the annual Giant Rock UFO convention. Yeah. That is where George Van Tassel is. And that is where a couple of years ago, Reese and I and Helena, not Buttons, had an expedition. I was there the year before. And if you do actually employ the services of UFO rodeo and you come into our boardroom, you will find on the shelf a series of pamphlets and magazines from the UFO conference in the 1950s
Starting point is 00:56:18 at Giant Rock. Of the very year. Not reproductions, the actual pamphlets. Wow. It was fascinating. I was flicking through them the other day because we've got no work on it at the moment. I was just sitting in the boardroom, just staring at the wall. Wondering how am I going to pay for all this? Yes. Need to get more ads. I don't need to. Get more ads.
Starting point is 00:56:38 There's some ads on that podcast of yours. Haven't you guys got a popular podcast that you do very irregularly? Yeah. Yeah. Charlie Brooker listens to it for Christ's sake. We need to- Get on there. Yeah. I was flicking through it. And it's amazing how many, back in the 50s, the clubs- Ah, so good. One of them is literally the UFO, not even UFO, the Flying Saucer, amalgamated clubs of America. And there's just dozens and dozens and dozens, like hundreds, I would say, of UFO,
Starting point is 00:57:12 sorry, again, before UFO was a term, Flying Saucer clubs all through America. It was huge. I think we forget how popular it was to actually believe in UFOs. Yeah, it wasn't even fringe, was it? It was just very in the now. That was obviously a very hot spot time of sightings. It's not brought up enough that that should in itself be proof. There was stuff going on at that point when a massive percentage of the population were happy to join these clubs.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Now you're far and few between you've got move on. I mean, the clubs are bigger because you've got the connectability from the internet and stuff. But back in those days, it was just little meetups and small towns and homemade magazines. And back to George Adamski and the movie script that I have that Reese has yet to agree to be a part of. I haven't got time.
Starting point is 00:58:05 That was Leon Festinger, who was the professor who came up with the term. Um, uh, God, I've just run out of words. How I just purge or just purging my wife's name. Purge my wife's name cognitive dissonance. Here you go. Can't remember. I'm married to, I remember cognitive dissonance now. The way he proved cognitive dissonance, which is the theory that if you believe something deeply enough, if you're proven wrong, you're more likely to be driven
Starting point is 00:58:34 more into the belief than out of it. Back then in the 1950s, the way that he proved his theory was to send students proved his theory was to send students into a UFO cult who believed that on Christmas Eve in the 1953, I think, that a UFO was going to come along and beam them up and save them because humanity was going to end. So he sent students to pretend to be in this UFO cult to watch what would happen when the UFO didn't come down Yeah, right. on Christmas Eve to prove that they would then go deeper into their belief. Right. And it was clearly a thing that UFO cults were just common.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yes. Yeah, they were. So we went and found one that had a prediction to go and prove it. And so that movie script is out and available now. Charlie Brooker, if you're there, email Helena. I've got a copy of it. I can get Helena to email that to you. Feel free to hit me up.
Starting point is 00:59:31 What was the name of the guy? Leon? Festinger. Festinger, see I'm so glad because I thought earlier when you said George Adamski and Leon Festinger, you'd run to your limit and you forgot your own name. I was like, I'm just not even gonna mention it. He doesn't remember his own actual name.
Starting point is 00:59:50 So that's good to know that this is a real person. That's coming, to round out this episode. He's gonna get rid of his own name. So he's lost his mom, his wife, and he's gonna end by losing himself. To remember cognitiveness in us. It's tough being me. Well, that's amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:09 And I was just thinking when you're saying that they all subsided and fell away, all these clubs, you know, due to eventual interest dropped. It's because I think some of them probably got culty. And then when the things didn't come down for them or whatever, people sort of eventually sort of gave up on it. But also Project Blue Book. Project Blue Book was the government... Convincing everyone that they weren't real.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah, and also creating the stigma of being loopy. If you say that you saw a flying saucer, that's at the point that people stopped talking about seeing weird things in the sky because they successfully created this narrative. So they changed the psychology of everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Through Project Blue Book. Wow. Wow. This is great stuff, guys. Really big, really cool.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Really cool. Hey, speaking of movies, though, stop the pod. Stop the pod. One last thing that we need to advertise, if it's okay, if I can advertise one of my own projects, is that opening up and cinemas across America this month is a documentary that I was lucky enough to shoot and be a producer on and Michelle, my wife, be the director of, of the documentary of Jacinda Ardern, our former prime minister.
Starting point is 01:01:27 It's called Prime Minister. It'll be out in cinemas near you if you're in the States soon and the rest of the world, probably later in the year, but do go and see it because once again, we've got no money. If you buy two tickets, even if there's only one of you. Do you get a little bit of the proceeds from that? Like eventually, maybe. Yeah, okay, good.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Right. I was there on Sundance when the film was premiered and it is fantastic. So yeah, if you get a chance, go see Prime Minister when it comes out. When's it coming out? It would probably be out now by the time this podcast is edited, middle of June.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Okay, so it's been and gone. Yeah, something. So was your tour. It was a sellout. Honestly, I made so much money. I made so much money from that film. Thanks for Yeah, something. So was your tour. It was a sellout. Honestly, I made so much money. I made so much money from that film. Thanks for going everyone. I mean, the cinemas were half empty. They were half empty, but they were full, paid for because everybody went by themselves and bought two tickets. Right. So there's actually only half full, but they were sold out. So if
Starting point is 01:02:21 you go to this movie, and there's not many people there, just remember it is actually sold out. So if you go to this movie and there's not many people there, just remember it is actually sold out thanks to you. Well done. Guys, I'll be honest, I'm not sure about this whole new just pushing our shows as part of the show. I just think it's really tacky. I'm just not sure what we're achieving with it. I don't know why they're doing it. I appreciate you guys need the work. You need the money, but I think it's a little sad. You're not wrong. So Dan, what are you reading at the moment? What sort of books are you reading? What's on your table these days? I've just been wondering what you're reading. What's really hard to read anything, because I've actually got glued to my hands, my book, The Theory of Everything Else,
Starting point is 01:03:03 which is still available in all good bookshops and online in the UK. Hey, what's... Um, I know a lot of this is visual, but if you are on the Patreon right now, you're really getting some free advertising here. It's my advertising as well, and Dan's. The thing for me to now enact you to be able to talk about your product, Reece, for Dan, he's holding up his two books. I had to say, what's, what are you reading at the moment? For Reece, I have to say, so Reece, what are you watching on
Starting point is 01:03:34 your DVD player these days? What's in your Blu-ray? Well, DVDs are back. That's the big news. Are they? Great. Well, DVDs are back. That's the big news. Are they? Great. People are sick of not having a plastic case and a tangible disc.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Yes. Yeah. So yeah, DVDs are back. That's the big news. So I've got a couple here. Reiss Derby this way to Spaceship and it's Reiss Derby night. Those sound good. Actually, what's that? Oh, look at that! It's made by... they're very quality DVDs made by a company called Augusto, which is
Starting point is 01:04:10 part of UFO Rodeo, isn't it? So those are the ones that you made, Button, and not the one that I made. Is it because the one we made, Reece, has sold out entirely, but you're left with lots of Augusto stock? Yeah, you cannot get the original one. Went platinum, obviously, in New Zealand. I think that was so old that that one's only available on VHS. What's in your VHS player these days, Reece?
Starting point is 01:04:33 What are you watching on VHS these days? You should ask. I'm watching a lot of Reece Derby stand-up. I need to remember what my routines were so that I don't repeat them for the new show. Yeah, good for it. Always a recipe. I still remember seeing Reece live in London where he made a callback to something that wasn't in the set that he was doing. But from a set he did earlier that night in a different club. That's right. A tie callback?
Starting point is 01:05:02 Yeah, yeah. It was to do with a dinosaur and everyone just loved it still, but I was like, that's not in this set. What you just did is... I didn't do that joke. Yeah. It was so good. I had a real problem with that, because you do sometimes do three gigs a night on the circuit in London, and by the third one, honestly, you feel like you've already done all those
Starting point is 01:05:21 jokes like you've just done them in the same set that you were on right then. I just remember I purged another word. The word I was trying to remember before is functional obsolescence. And that's the word with a chat, and that is actually the value of having DVDs. Because even though it may well exist, having things online only, and if they drop off, if they, you know, get pushed out. Yes. Case in point, my show Wrecked is gone. See? That one Wrecked I did with TBS for three seasons. Yeah. I cannot get it now.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Which is Genius, which is an amazing series. I mean, genius is a strong word, but it was pretty funny. It was good. I still remember some of the jokes from it. Well, you were there half the time. I was, yeah. On a cruise some of the jokes from it. Well, you were there half the time. I was, yeah. On a cruise ship. Were you? You turned up on set.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Was he ever in shot? No. No, no, but he was like handing out biscuits and things. I was, I was, I was making cups of tea for people. You had your Spice Girls mermaid t-shirt on. That's right. And Jermaine Clement was on there. And funnily enough, tonight I'm seeing Jermaine Clement's wife, Miranda.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Here we go. You better not tell chat GPT to blow that in the chelates. Scrub that, scrub that, scrub that. But that's why it's important to keep DVDs around and actually why DVDs should come back in all seriousness is so that things cannot. Imagine if you could buy the Rict DVD set like you used to be able to. We're back to DVDs in our house. I bought a DVD player a month ago.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Yeah yeah we're back because there's so many things I can't find to show my boys but on top of it I know technically you can probably get it online but all the extras, all the commentary, all the, there's so much. No you can probably get it online, but all the extras, all the commentary, all the... There's so much. No, you can't. They were art pieces. Not to mention how hard it is to find things online now. We're almost at that dead internet phase, where there's so much bullshit out there,
Starting point is 01:07:15 it's hard to wade your way through to find the thing you want to get. Yeah, that's so true. But yeah, so they are back. And look at this beautiful object. It's gorgeous. One of the ones that you helped make. Augusto, part of UFO Rodeo, a group of creative companies that have the ability
Starting point is 01:07:30 to be able to advertise and market your product. Call us now on... 0800 HELENA. HELENA. Call us on 0800 HELENA. Beautiful photographs. Oh, that was a good set. I mean, that was the high point of my career
Starting point is 01:07:44 when we paid for a set building company to build a giant town on stage. Yeah, so cool. The Civic. Look how glorious the actual stage is there. Amazing. The most beautiful theatre in New Zealand. I would argue, though, that the show itself wasn't the greatest. But get the DVD. There's some good bits in there. The set is amazing. Get it for the set alone. Oh no, and just to finish it all off, lolz. lolz? lolz? no! In this description and the words on the back of the DVD cover. Written in the description. Read it out, read it out to us. Hey partygoers, look who's back.
Starting point is 01:08:27 This is the long awaited return of me on DVD. So this is the second one I ever put out after your one Dan. I developed this show on the road and received big lols in LA, London, Edinburgh and parts of Australia. Only parts of Australia. Only parts of Australia. Adelaide didn't do so well. Finally I toured my home country, New Zealand. It was absolutely choice-ome.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Oh my gosh, and I've put in brackets choice plus awesome. I tried to make up a new word there. Choice-ome. Pretty good. Oh, choice-ome. Oh, that could now become a word. Now that GPT, we can put it in. So let's ask it to choice them.
Starting point is 01:09:06 It rambles on and then so 55 minutes for the show and then extras on the DVD. 47 minutes. There you go. That's what it's about. That's what you're getting kids these days. Wouldn't even know about extra features. I remember the hidden, the Easter egg ones that you had to sort of click to a certain menu and go down and click on a certain
Starting point is 01:09:25 button and I remember authoring DVDs back in the day in the early days of UFO rodeo Stop the pod stop the pod. Oh, no, don't don't worry about it Well, no, like just while we're connecting things together My son wolf very randomly the other day said dad Can we watch Jumanji? And I said, oh, Robin Williams. And he said, no, the new one.
Starting point is 01:09:49 And I was like, oh, you know, daddy's friend is in that. And he was like, oh, no way. And he watched it. Buttons? Buttons is in that? Yeah, he's handing out biscuits. You can't see it. It's sort of like off shots in the extras. He probably was there actually.
Starting point is 01:10:07 So at the very beginning of the movie it said, stay tuned after the movie for extra bloopers and bits that didn't make it into the film. And my son went, why? It's not even part of his psyche. Like you, Button, saying about animal farm and losing that as a concept. Yeah. It's gone.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Why are they making us stick around? Yeah. What do we have to watch extra stuff for? Well, back in the day, it used to be a pleasure to watch a little bit more extra stuff. Why? That's funny. How weird though that that was on Jumanji though.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Very weird. Lots of lols. Alright, well I think we should leave it there guys. Well the only reason we should leave it there is we've run out of things to advertise. I'm struggling to think of anything else we've got. Ultimately this is a big promo for not only Edinburgh and everything else we've advertised, but also it's really advertising the fact that next episode we're going to do some cryptid news. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:07 It's becoming increasingly on brand that we did no crypto news in our cryptid podcast. I think that seems to be our thing these days. Yeah. It's been replaced by amazing memorable moments. So we can probably change the name of the podcast to Memorable Moments. Memorable Moments with Rhys Darby. We look back at the 25 years of a show that was once good and now it's just a compilation of old memories that no one cares about.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Mixed with people just reading the back of their own DVDs. Choices. We always have a dodgy one when we come back. That's why you've got to try and stay in the game. A lot to unfold there and definitely Helena's got her work cut out for herself to make something tight out of all this. Good luck. Good luck Helena.
Starting point is 01:12:04 At least she gets mentioned. I can guarantee you all the stuff that mentions her name in it will definitely be in there. It'll be in there. I love also just to end out on is that Dan Schreiber started this podcast with a goblet of wine and is ending up with a chuppa chump. Yeah, such a party animal. One glass of wine and a chub a chub.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Alright, then it's off to bed. Um, okay, well... How do we finish these things again? Thanks for tuning in everyone, and as we say, we promise we are back. Next week, all cryptid news. That's the exciting thing. Wall to wall cryptids. So we'll see you then.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yay! Bye! Bye bye! Bye! Bye! Do you guys remember that one time that I actually did a great sign off? Oh, I remember that. If this is the tag, I'm very disappointed.

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