The Cryptid Factor - 18: #018 The Free-Drugs Issue

Episode Date: September 6, 2015

In this issue, Rhys gets excited about inflatable space platforms, David gets excited about real estate, and Buttons gets excited about free drugs. Tonnes of Crypto goodness with an actual in-studio guest! Enjoy!

The Quintet Factor, with Rhys, Derby, and David Fadriar. Hello and welcome to The Cryptid Factor, the only podcast that exists on this planet about cryptozoology. We're all in the same room today, it's very exciting. My name's David. What's going on? And we've got Rhys Derby actually in the country. I'm in the room, I'm in the same room, and can I say it's worse when we're all together. It's even more haphazard than when we're all trying to scope in from different places. What was that? Weird stuff up there.

Oh no, it's just that my laptop started playing. Unfortunately we haven't got time to edit all this out, so we'll just keep rocking on through. Good to be back. Buttons, what's going on today? What's on the show? Well, today I've got some special content, which is really quite exciting, because I've got to admit for the last few episodes of The Cryptid Factor whilst Rhys has been away, I've got to admit we've been a little bit slack. In the old days we used to have people in and we used to, you know, expert in.

I think the research element of the show has really been lacking. We've been too busy. We want to do the talk, we're bringing in the articles and we're discussing stuff and having a good laugh and also keeping up to date on Cryptid News. That's right. But we have missed out on the guests. And so that's why today I dragged in a guest. Did you guys notice the random guy in the corner of the room?

Oh, let's have a look. Oh, who's that? That's Gordon. Hey, Gordon. How are you doing? Good. So Gordon, I haven't told you guys why Gordon is here. We'll go into that a little bit. That's a teaser. That's the thing that we've just learned most recently, isn't it?

You tease people so they stay tuned to the podcast. Oh, right. So we know there's a mysterious man called Gordon in the room, but we don't know why. He was already in the room. Can I just say, I thought we were sitting in Gordon's office and he was like working and just buttons had issued us into this place. Well, it is a little bit like that. I should have said ushered us, not issued. No one picked up on that.

Listeners. Doesn't ignore you. So anyway, I was an issuer at a theater once. So Gordon, you're OK to hang around? Absolutely, yeah. Should we crack into some weekly World Weird News? Yeah, and then we'll tease people with why Gordon is actually in the room. Weekly World Weird News.

Crazy, freaky. Watch out. This is where we basically spent the last week really just looking over the news and picking out the weirdest, craziest stuff that we think you need to know. Shall we go through headlines first, guys? Yeah, of course. So we've got my headline that jumped out at me, Purchase Buffalo Builds Place for $300,000. Wow.

Wow. More on that soon. That's going to be easy to beat. OK, what about this, guys? Inflatable 12-mile space elevator proposed. I heard about that. Yeah. I can't wait to chat about that.

My one might win the headline competition. It's Free Drugs. What? No, but I can elaborate on it more later. Just appealing to the use. Is that it? Free Drugs. It's gone to this, is it?

Always trying to be cool, eh? Always trying to have the cool headline. OK, that might not be a headline. That might be an offer. But no, I'll tell you why when it gets to my tune. Well, look, my headline probably was at least thrilling, and it's one of these headlines that sort of gave everything away in the actual headline. Well, it's just a real estate notice.

But in a nutshell, Silence of the Lambs. I don't know if you guys are big fans of that movie, but Buffalo Bill. Oh, I love it. Buffalo Bill. His creepy little house is now out for sale for $300,000. I'm surprised it's still standing. Yeah.

Owners Scott and Barbara Lloyd have called the place home since December 1976. The property was ultimately selected as a location on the film due to the house's entryway. They were looking for a home in which you entered the front door and had a straight line through, Barbara Lloyd said. They wanted it to look like a spider web with Buffalo Bill drawing Jodie Foster into the foyer, into the kitchen, then into the basement. So, I mean, $300,000. It's not that bad.

I mean, we live in Auckland where our property is completely out of control. Yeah. $300,000 for Buffalo Bill's house is kind of cool. You do wonder about the kind of creep that would want to own that house. Well, I've got to say. But then I'd like to own that house. Yeah, but for movie memorabilia, I think I could think of better things to spend $300,000

if you're just buying it for movie memorabilia, right? Is that how many houses more than memorabilia, you know? Imagine people turning up to their house and then watching Silence of the Lambs there. Hang on. Can I just interject? Is it not Buffalo Bill the cowboy's house? No.

No. No. No. No, not the cowboy. With the horse trough out the front. Well, that's what I thought you were talking about. That's why I said I'm surprised it's still standing. No, no, Silence of the Lambs.

I've got a little clip here. We might have heard this one. What's the problem, officer? Well, I'm investigating the death of Frederica Bimmel. Your name is? Uh, Jack Gordon. Mr. Gordon. Good.

Well, Frederica used to work for Mrs. Whitman. Did you know her? No, uh-uh. Oh, wait. Was she a great big fat person? Yeah, she was a big girl, sir. Yeah, I miss. No, I read about her in a newspaper.

Um, Mrs. Whitman had a son, or maybe he could help you. I got his card in here someplace. Do you want to come in while I look for it? Really? Yes. Thank you. Jody Foster talking there to Buffalo Bill.

So you're not the Buffalo Bill you're thinking of? Oh, so which Buffalo Bill are you talking about? So, Buffalo Bill was the guy, was he not, that had the pit and that had the girl at the bottom of the pit. You got it. And he was stitching together clothes out of... Yeah, a lot of people think when they think Science of the Lambs,

they think of obviously the main, you know, the main character. But, uh, Buffalo Bill was a huge part of that film. Oh, okay. So if you're bored this weekend, we can all go and watch Science of the Lambs. That would be amazing in Buffalo Bill's house. I must say, though, for $300,000, I'd probably rather buy, like, the DeLorean from Back to the Future,

or something a little bit more, um, nice. Weekly World Weirds. Shit, they're just... That's just a reminder what segment we're in. Reese, I'm really keen to hear your weird story. Well, we're all familiar with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. My favourite movie of all time, the original. Yes, and then indeed, the follow-up book,

The Great Glass Elevator. And I've often thought about how wonderful it would be if there was an elevator that went up to space, um, well, now they're making one. And it doesn't, uh, seem as far-fetched as it certainly seems. Because just that whole concept from that was so amazing, right, in elevators, because up and up and up, it, like, captured everyone's imagination.

The fact that you can see through it and you can just, you know, look out as you go higher and higher and higher. Uh, you know, at some point you're going to need an oxygen mask. But, uh, this, this particular concept, uh, comes from the idea of bypassing the need for expensive rocket launchers, which is something that all the money and space travel tends to go on the initial, uh, rocket launch. That's where it all goes. It's getting up into the stratosphere.

Once you're there, you're fine. You're away laughing, but it's that hard part. Uh, so therefore, the idea, uh, here is to build, um, an elevator, or if you're, uh, English, we'll call it a lift. Um, so there's a Canadian-based firm called Thoth Technology, T-H-O-T-H. That's a good name, isn't it? Thoth.

I work for Thoth. Sorry? Thoth. Do you have a lisp? Yes. Uh, don't work there if you do have a lisp. Uh, so it's 12 miles high. Oh, wow. Oh my God.

Amazing, isn't it? See, the amazing thing is though, is that, uh, this has actually been a concept that's been around for a very long time, isn't it? They actually had the idea of having an elevator going up into the stratosphere, like, a long time ago. Basically telling me that this is old news. That's what you're dithering about.

Dithering about in the corner. It was a real dither. This is old news. It's not. It's literally come out and it hasn't happened yet. It's still an idea. If the construction of such a tower ever does go ahead, then the resulting structure would be more than 20 times

the height of the world's current tallest building. And what I also enjoy about this is that, you know, they propose that it will be inflatable. So I can't help but think of those kids' inflatable slides, you know, the ones that you go to the farmer's market and the little kid takes his shoes off. You know, wouldn't it be great if that's how you came down from space in a massive, probably, you know,

someone will just take the pegs out or turn the genie off and the damn thing's going to start collapsing. He's so stressful. Help me! It'll be, you know, it'll be a mixture of the goonies and the, uh, the dithies. Well, that's an incredible story. And I'm into that happening.

Yeah, let's go for that. It's got, um, 26 likes and 17 retweets. So I think it's going to happen. I think it's going to happen. Okay, but I am sure that this, they've talked about this, like, hundreds of years ago. I'm sure of it. What? This elevator?

Hundreds of years ago? What are you talking about? Okay, I'm going to find it because I am sure that this uses hundreds of years old. I'm going to, okay, I'm going to go into my news, but then I'm going to find... Well, I'm curious to hear about free drugs. I'm sure you are. When are we being issued with the free drugs?

I think you're already on them. No! You've been taking them! Leon's been taking them for hundreds of years. Don't hold out on the free drugs! Okay, can I tell you what? You're about to get some free drugs right now. No bollocks.

We're going to, this is going to be the first time Weekly World News has turned into an actual live experiment on podcast. Okay, you ready? Yep. So my news about free drugs is actually about some researchers who've just been looking into this amazing thing.

Let me start again. It's when you look at him, I think. You put him off by looking at him. Don't look at him when he talks. This is tricky. You are on the drugs! No, here we go. Here we go.

Here we go. I'm sorry. I apologize. Okay, here's the headline. Steering into someone's eyes for 10 minutes can alter your consciousness. Okay, so researchers have found out that by steering into somebody else's eyes

or even into a mirror, steering into your own eyes, you can go into a full state of hallucinogenic... I thought you were going to say bliss then. Okay, let me read this out. This is slightly dodgy. The science here, but... No, we're going to check it out in just two seconds.

I never want to steer into your eyes. You're just about to. Two seconds. You're just about to. Okay, forget LSD, eyes of the new high. Of course, we're not talking about consuming them, but rather steering insanely into a pair for a prolonged period of time.

Apparently, this can make people enter an altered state of consciousness, i.e. free drugs. Oh, now I get it. The headline makes sense. Okay, so the intriguing discovery was made by vision researchers in the university in Italy.

Vision, vision... Man, I've been steering into somebody's eyes. Are you trying to say vision? Vision, vision, vision. Vision researchers in the university in Italy and what they've been... Some random university in Italy. That's a big country.

I can't read it. That's fine. Urbino University in Italy. And they got 50 volunteers and got them to gaze at their reflection in a mirror for 10 minutes in a dimly lit room. And most of them, after one minute or so, they started to trip out.

Their faces began to warp and change, taking on the appearance of animals, monsters, or even deceased family members. Oh, my God. A phenomenon imaginatively named the strange-faced illusion. Wow. But it seems the bizarre effects are even more dramatic

when the mirror is swapped for another person. So what I suggest is that we lower the blinds. Yeah. And whilst you maybe read out some more news, David and I will stare at each other and see whether or not we actually... And see what comes out. Yeah.

What do you reckon? Wow. Let's do the experiment. It's going to be great for the listener. You're going to do it at home, too. We promise that they are doing it. They're not just on Facebook. I'll give it a go.

I'm going to come over to you. You come over to me. Rhys is going to have to pull those blinds shut down a little bit. I'm going to shut the blinds here. So what we have to do is we have to be about a metre apart from each other. So we'll get to about a metre apart. Now, when this happened, time seemed to slow down.

Right. These people felt spaced out. And additionally, 90% of them saw their partner's face. They saw the other person's face become deformed. And 75% of them saw monstrous beings. For any what I'm seeing right now. What if your face is already deformed? Does it straighten up?

No. Okay. Here we go. No, it's fine. I can see you. Okay. So David, we'll commentate what actually happens if anything happens.

We're about a metre apart, right? Yeah. Okay. So if you read another thing and we'll let you know if anything happens. The other big story this week is the lost Nazi gold train. Possibly discovered in Poland. Now, this has kind of gone mainstream.

Everyone has probably heard this news. But we better mention it. Two people in Poland claim to have found a long lost train carrying a cargo of gold, gems and weapons. The train, which was said to be laden with hundreds of tonnes of gold, allegedly disappeared near to the city of Rokla in Poland in 1945. Just as the Soviets were advancing on the country.

For more than 60 years, the final whereabouts of the locomotive remained something of a mystery. But now two men in Poland have come forward claiming they know exactly where it is and will reveal its location to local authorities in exchange for a percentage of its cargo's value. Any, any updates on the steering? Nothing yet? Okay.

Are you supposed to leave your glasses on? I don't know. I would probably take your glasses off, wouldn't you? That make it worse. Okay, let's try the glasses off thing. Just about a minute. You haven't got much light as well. They're basically sitting in the dark.

Yeah, that's what we need to do. Hang on. Is that about a meter? Hang on. Maybe that's a little bit too close. Okay. I think they're a bit close, too. Here we go.

All right. So they've gone back to steering now. Speckless. Early indications suggested that the train could be 150 metres long with more than 300 tonnes of gold on board. However, at this point, it isn't clear if it really has been found. Oh, you've got a slight warp?

Yeah. That's interesting. Or is this story a hoax? So, I mean, it's really got out there on the internet. By the time you guys hear this podcast, we may know the truth behind this, whether there really is a hidden Nazi train that has been hidden for 70 years. I mean, it's quite difficult to hide a 150 metre long locomotive. It's got a warp?

Yeah. Leon's eyes are doing some weird stuff. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah. They're getting bigger. Your face is just kind of all the sudden kind of flat and weird. Oh, wow. This is exciting, guys.

Yeah. You're definitely something's going on. Brilliant. Yeah. The eyes are just getting... Yeah. So the BBC? I see a bit of a dog.

No way. A dog like. A doggy. There's a dog coming up. Yeah. You're sort of going all pale and going a little bit. Your eyes are getting a bit angry. Oh, that's weird.

Okay. Just to update you, listeners, we have Buttons and David staring at each other close to, I would say, 40 centimetres apart from each other. And they're just now starting to see weird things. You know, you guys, this is definitely working. Yeah. It's happening properly now. Wow.

So you're getting warped. The same with you. It's going to go all bruised. Oh. You know, I remember looking at myself in the mirror and I have to admit I was on a substance and it really got evil. It got really evil real quickly. And I was on magic mushrooms at the time.

Don't do it, kids, but... Leon's getting uglier. It was a... I was forced at the time to eat the mushrooms. There wasn't anything left in the house. We were starving. And so we just ate the mushrooms. And unfortunately, they were poisoned.

So we got... You're fully deformed. We got high. And you do see really weird stuff in the mirror. And you know, I wouldn't do it again because it's not a pleasant experience. But what we're seeing here is two guys completely sober. No substances during the day, just staring at each other. Leon looks at times really monstrous.

So with you, your eyes keep on going bulging out in the sideways. Now I'm wondering whether we're seeing demons here or past lives. Perhaps what our souls really were. Maybe the future. Who knows? I go with the demon thing because Leon does look proper evil. Yeah. Even from this distance.

So with you, your eyes kind of like start separating and kind of floating away from each other. Yeah. Maybe is it just the fact that we're looking at the same object? Could you look at any object for ages and it would do this? I don't know. This is the experiment. Yeah, same. All right.

Well, there you go. It works. It works. Free drugs. Free drugs. It felt like it did feel very trippy when I was watching. Same. Oh, do you want to have a go at race?

No. No, I'm fine. I don't want any demons today, but I can see that that does happen. So if you're listening in, folks, do it at home. Would you recommend trying it in the mirror? I'd give it a go. Do it with your kids. Maybe get your kids and try it with your kids.

No, don't do it with your kids. It feels, it looks super weird. Yeah. Yeah, it really does. It does. If anyone has the answers to this, please let us know. Obviously, they're doing this sort of thing at university. And actually, it's good.

You don't need drugs. No, you don't need drugs. Because drugs are bad. All you need to do is stare at someone. But that's an old, the old stare, the stare off things, but not for years. You know, when you blink. Blink competition. It brings a whole...

I think this is taking it to another level though, isn't it? You were talking two minutes, three minutes in. And you can blink and stuff, can't you? You can blink in there. Yeah, so... All right. Wow, that was... Well, look, I just think for the sheer kind of amazement of a practical result,

I think maybe your news story was potentially whilst had not a great headline. Yeah. It was a really good story. So thank you, Buttons. Pleasure. Now, I'm never going to be able to look at you the same ever again. Have you guys got much cryptozoological news? Should we sort of have a shooter on the world of that?

What do you think? Well, there is a few animal updates. Let's play the sting and see what comes out. Here we go. Attention, old personnel, it's time for this week's Cryptid... Help me! Of course, that signals the start of cryptid news, but we really, you know, we disseminate all the information online and we just bring you the best stories related to cryptozoology,

the study and science of hidden animals. I have a brief story here about a new Bigfoot video that's emerged from Bluff Creek. Oh. Of course, this was Bluff Creek was where one of the most famous Bigfoot videos took place. And let's have a look here, this little headline. A researcher by the name of MK Davis has released a footage of a hairy human-like creature reportedly taking at Bluff Creek in 2008. Now, I know you go 2008, it's 2015.

This is old footage. Yeah, this whole episode we've really struggled with old news. But basically, Davis took the Bigfoot video himself, but didn't realize at the time there was anything to note. So, I'll show you guys. This is what we're talking about. It's sort of a little humanoid figure in the corner of frame, sort of next to a clearing. Or is that a river there running through the middle?

Yeah, so it's next to a river. I was there with Don Monroe and Keith Idons, both men were accounted for in the video. We don't know who or what this is and no one else was there with us. This previous August, there were lots of firefighters in the area, but this was definitely not a firefighter. So, that's all we know. It wasn't a firefighter. It's just a weird sort of human-like creature. Okay.

And it's Bluff Creek. Bluff Creek? It's a very good place to go. It's one of the original sighting locations. If you will, it's famous for it. There's that movie, Bluff Creek. And it's also a reminder that if you've been to any of these places where Bigfoot could have been, get out those VHS tapes, get out those DVDs, just watch the footage back again and again and again,

looking for something that you might have missed at the time. A lot of people, a lot of researchers actually just go around the general areas, filming everything and then go back and then scroll through the tapes and it's, you know, it's... Because you're always, you know, they can't pick up everything at the time. You know, they're getting in general and see a tree and there's another tree and there's a bird, but there's things you're missing that might be on that recorded vision. So, something to think about. Anyway, that's me.

From Cryptozoology News, we've got a researchers' encounter of Bigfoot in Missouri. The interesting thing here is that they say it made donkey sounds. A man in central Missouri on Tuesday said he and another person witnessed an animal that matched other reports of a Sasquatch. Bigfoot researcher Randy Savig told Cryptozoology News that he has been investigating the phenomenon for about three years. Savig has focused his efforts to finding audible evidence of the existence of the cryptid. It's always a good way to go because you can hear them for miles, knocking on wood or howling. Of course, vocalization of Bigfoot can be huge and very loud.

A visual encounter took place in the area while he and his friend were investigating. Bernie has been my research partner now for over two years. It makes night ops much safer if you have someone else in the woods with you. A common knowledge there. My friend had been watching something for about 20 minutes in the shadow. It was about 400 feet from the camp. The Missourian explains, it's quite a cool term, being a Missourian. It sounds like an alien planet.

I'm a Missourian. I could see it too, he says. It looked like it was swaying side to side trying to stay behind some leaves. It looked like an old swayed side to side trick. And then the article runs out. Here we go, we're back on. Imagine that. Imagine my seat there.

No, that's a different article. Where's the end of it? This website always lets you down. Where's the donkey sounds? I don't know whether it's because I'm looking it on the mobile or not, but it just ends with dot dot dot. Maybe next episode. Long story short, it made noises like a donkey.

I think I forgot the actual recording here. So if you just hush hush, I'll play it. Hee! Hee! I find it fascinating because if they can mimic donkeys and they would hear donkeys coming up and down through over the years from the track, because people use donkeys to travel around while they're investigating, and maybe they can mimic.

I think it's an interesting thing. I mean humans can mimic. Birds are the great mimics. Can you think of any other mimics? Mainly birds, parrots. It's birds and humans, right? Which also means... Apes?

No, not really. They could be sign language, but they're not talking. Of course the greatest mimic of all time. No, not Marcel Marceau. Was the Australian lyrebird. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. He can mimic machinery. Params. Yeah, anything.

Anything. He's better than that guy of police academy. He's pretty good too. Well, I think it's an incredible story. And obviously Bigfoot, you know, Bigfoot is you can waste a pened on Bigfoot for putting himself out there occasionally and getting some good sightings on record.

We have crypto news that I've got here to share. Park Ranger claims he saw a lake monster, Moclem Mbembe. Oh, really? Moclem Mbembe. So this is... Moclem Mbembe is up in the lake, Tally, and somewhere in the Congo. Yeah, that's right. This guy, he claims to be a park ranger.

He only claims to be one. He's got no written proof. Already we're on a bit of rocky ground. He bought the hat and got that... Anyone can buy the gear. There's himself a couple of little sleeve inserts into his jacket. He says he spotted the dinosaur-like monster last Friday.

He's a 45-year-old man who disclosed his full name, but he wants to remain anonymous. He said that he was looking for illegal fishermen in the area where he and another person encountered the animal. A long neck went out of the water, he explained. He turned, looked at us, moved around, then disappeared underwater. The man said the creature was out of the water for about five minutes,

and that it had a black snake-like neck and red eyes. Wow. Which is pretty amazing. It's a great description. If it's out of the water for five minutes, it's actually quite pretty. And so no photograph taken? No, unfortunately no photograph taken.

Okay, claimed to be a ranger. But doesn't have a camera with him. But he's now famous. Best dicey. Where are you reading this article? What's it on? The same website that Reese is using. www.littlebitdicey.com

No, cryptozoologynews.com Well, that's good. That's good, because that's one of my favorite cryptids. The idea that there is still a living dinosaur in Africa. Oh, no, it's so exciting, isn't it? I mean, it seems to hold a lot more weight to me than, you know, the Loch Ness Mott stream. Well, yeah, because it's a lot more vastness there,

having been to a few of the countries in Africa myself and how much open land there is and the Congo in particular. And, you know, there's a lot of concentration of people in a certain area, and then there isn't anyone for a long stretch of land. And, you know, undiscoverable. Yeah, the idea of a creature sort of living there

fairly untouched by mankind, isn't that far off? And local villages and people sort of, you know, fearing the idea of it and not going anywhere near that sort of area. No, Western is coming in with massive, loud, you know, cameras and, well, actually, in this case, no camera, but, you know, big fake ranger outfits. Hey, look.

No, hang on, just before you move on, Rhys and I were talking just the other day about these lake sightings of monsters and about the crystal theory, about crystals, special crystals that are found on the bed in some of these lakes, actually turning into the area into effective little portals of time machines where you're actually looking at a projection of history.

Not something in the past. Yeah, and so that you're actually looking at a projection of actual dinosaurs in that actual lake. You're looking through a window of time thanks to the crystals. Right, I hadn't heard this theory before, but I like what I hear. Well, Giorgio brought it up on In Search of Aliens,

and I spoke to him the other day, and I brought this up with him, and he kind of... Oh, sorry. Giorgio from... Were you just hanging out with Giorgio from... Ancient Aliens. Oh, is that what you do? Yeah.

Is that what happens in LA? Well, yeah, in LA, you know, we run into each other all the time, these kind of explorers and me, and, you know, it's just cafe culture, really. But we'll actually get him on the show. Great idea. Great idea.

We'll talk about the next episode. So we'll go more into some of the expeditions he's been on but some of his fantastic theories, very, very plausible theories and stuff that where he says, you know, throw away the text box, because that's just someone... That's someone else's opinion. Texting.

Who's been thrusting it down, you know, everyone's next, you know, stopping a drone and go out there and actually come up with your own ideas, which is, I think, what mankind should be doing. Now, look, there's a new Bigfoot film called I've Seen Bigfoot. Oh, that's a great film.

A great, great title. What's it about? There's no indication as to what this is about whatsoever. So if you see this, as you see this film, it could be about anything. No idea, but it is called I've Seen Bigfoot. And if you want to go to the website, I have SeenBigfoot.com.

It actually has the world premiere this weekend. I can't believe they got the URL I've SeenBigfoot.com. I thought they would have been taken. You'd think they would have been taken years ago. It's a feature-length documentary, and it features eye-witness accounts, researchers telling the real stories of their own encounters with the elusive Bigfoot.

I've got a clip here that I will play. The best way for me to describe what I saw was a westbound end of the eastbound Sasquatch. One is 13 and a half, the other is 15 inches. Two different times I've had encounters I can't really explain. In my first experience, I ran when I saw it,

and I grabbed my car keys, but I wouldn't go back out in the woods for three days. Countless research groups, scientists, and eye-witnesses all have overwhelming stories to tell that have changed their life indefinitely. Yes, man has always had its monsters, or better known in North America. As Bigfoot, have you seen Bigfoot?

I saw one. I've seen Bigfoot. I've seen Bigfoot. Can I know Bigfoot exists? Because I've seen it. Hi, I'm Rhys Dabi, and I'm an alcoholic. It reminds you of that AA meeting where you stand up and you admit it.

And what if there is Bigfoot's Anonymous, where people meet who have seen, who have seen him, and they sit around and they tell their stories, and they introduce... I mean, you know, I mock it, but it could be out there. But look, this looks like a good one, because it is very real eye-witness accounts. It's a whole bunch of really good ones together in one film.

And it premieres this weekend, and for those listening right now, that's probably last weekend, or maybe six months ago, depending on how quickly Buttons turns around on this episode. Can I imagine you can find out details of how to get it at the website? Yeah, bring it.

What was that? Website again? I can't remember. But I got that off CryptoMundo. Hey, that's fantastic. We've got a great set of Cryptozoological news. Now, moving on to our next segment, and I think this is probably time to bring in my friend sitting in the corner there, Gordon.

Oh, yes! I've noticed there was a man sitting in the corner there, and I didn't want to say anything, because I felt that maybe we had just sort of intruded into his office. It's just awkwardly waiting for us to finish this podcast. Yeah, so he's actually going to be in the show. Oh, good, good.

I'm going to play the Sting, which is going to reveal why Gordon's here. You ready? Yes. Yep. Oh, what have you got there? Oh, great. Another eye-witness account. Account. Account.

Oh, we haven't had one of these in a very long time. Eye-witness accounts are difficult to get, but you have a secured one. I secured a real-life one, and it's here. It's Gordon, and he's in the room. Hello, Gordon. Hey, how are you doing? Gordon, it is nice to have you here,

but now, of course, I'm so curious to know what you witnessed with your two eyes. Yeah, so should I tell you all about it? I'd love to hear. I'm glad you pointed out he had two eyes. Just wanted to make that clear. How many eyes has he got? Actually, four eyes saw it, because I had a friend with me,

and we both saw the same thing. Oh, four eyes, okay. Okay, so you can collaborate this story if we did want to look into it. It can definitely be corroborated, yes. Okay, what have we got? Okay, so about a month ago, my friend and I, Paul Mills,

were driving from Panama City Beach, Florida to Appalachicola to go tarpon fishing for a week, and it was about midnight, I guess, so this is deep south, right, and no one's on the road. It's really humid. You've got to run the windshield wipers about every two minutes, because of the humidity,

so a lot of humidity, really hot, and we're driving in this rental car, and we're coming around this big, sweeping right-hand corner, and up in front of us, up in the distance, what looks like a pile of tires, and we just kind of look at it, and all of a sudden, as we get closer, we realize it's not a pile of tires, but an animal,

and it was probably two and a half to three feet tall, gray in color, and its fur was matted like wet, tangled, nasty, like it was wet, but tangled, and it was on its back legs, standing up with, it had kind of short front legs, sort of a smallish head, and it had its mouth open, and it had teeth, like really nasty teeth,

and it was shrieking at something that was just out of our sight on the right, so as I was driving, we saw this, and I swerved to the left to go into the oncoming lane of traffic to avoid it, nobody was out there, and we go past it, and of course, because it's a right-hand big curve, we were then out of sight, and it was pitch black anyway,

and I looked at Milsie, my friend, and he looked at me, so this guy's a retired cop from South Auckland, so he's seen all kinds of awful stuff, right, and he was, like, stunned, and he said, what in the hell was that? And I was like, what in God's name was that? Because, I mean, you know, I've spent a lot of time in the bush, in the woods, in North America,

and I've seen stuff, but not like this. How long did you see this thing for? We were driving at 60 miles an hour. And all of a sudden, it was right there in the headlights, and then we drove past it, and then, of course, it's pitch black behind us, we can't see anything, and we thought about turning around to go look for it, but we were like, no way.

Only because of what it looked like, and I mean, I've never seen an animal like that. What would you like in it, too? Well, as a joke, I said, could that be Chubicabra? And he started laughing and said, it's possible, I suppose. Now, I'm pretty sure Chubicabra's a desert thing, like Texas or something, but this was not a raccoon or a possum. It was way too big for that.

It wasn't a dog, because it had small front paws, sort of a little head. The standing is bipedal at that moment? Standing, exactly, standing. Wow. And the look on its face as it was shrieking at whatever was in, I mean, I'm assuming it was shrieking, we were in the car, but it was definitely, it had its mouth open.

What did its face look like? Sort of, was it more dog-like, cat-like? Sort of in between the two. It was not a dog's face though, because it was a smallish head with sort of a little pointy snout, but I just remember its teeth, because the teeth were massive. And nasty, and this thing was pissed off. Could it be, I'm thinking, a giant beaver?

A beaver. I mean, it sounds crazy, but I don't remember having a tail, and beavers have a pretty good tail, you know. And going back to the fur, was it very unkempt? Oh yeah, it was, this thing was nasty. It was tangled and wet and horrible. It looked angry, it didn't look tame. And most mammals, I would imagine, take care of their fur.

And this was not, this was... Just a mess. It was a disaster, and it was really disturbing. Really disturbing, and was it on the road? Yeah, it was right at, so as you know, you drive on the right-hand side of the road there, it was right in the middle of the right-hand lane. That's why I had to swerve out into the other lane.

And about four feet tall, did you say? Oh no, two and a half to three. Two and a half, so you're looking... So it's good size. We had a little creature standing up on its legs. You know, like a raccoon would be, you know, smaller than that. This was too big to be a raccoon, and plus it didn't have any stripes on it.

It was all gray. And so, really, when you see it, and you pass, and you think, and you look at each other, nothing enters your head as to what that could possibly be, really. Other than, oh my god, what was that? Wow, that's so bizarre. Did it change your way you thought about wildlife after you saw that? Because you go through life, you know,

you can sort of identify everything. It's a little weird, but that might have been a deer, or that might have been a moose, or a bear. Exactly. This is this thing that you have no idea what it was. No idea, and was disturbed by it. That's the other thing. You're too scared to actually go back and look for it.

This was not like, oh, what was the fuzzy creature? You know, this, you know, like going through a yellow stone, like, oh, look, there's something like that. Yeah. This was gnarly, man. Yeah, I mean, it does sound like those little drawings you see of tuba cabras that are standing on their high legs. Yeah.

And the teeth as well that you say, those big teeth, make you think tuba cabra. And the short front paws, which I thought was strange. That is bizarre. And so we, I guess the only help that we can give people here is the location again. Yeah. So I was going from Panama City Beach, Florida,

south to Apalachicola. So this is the panhandle of Florida. So we're talking deep south. Yeah. Like ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah. I mean, there have been tuba cabra sightings around there. Skunk?

Yes, skunk. Yeah. But tubas have been spotted occasionally around that area. So I wouldn't rule that out. Well, look, if we've got anyone listening to this podcast, I know we do. If that rings a bell, if you're in that area, or if you've seen anything in that area,

please contact us on the Facebook or the Twitter and let us know if you've got any more information on this crazy creature. That is a fantastic sighting. What a great eyewitness account. Well, thanks. And I've got to say, it was pretty, pretty amazing. Gordon and I, I actually met him on an aeroplane

on the way back from the States. And I just happened to say, oh, you know, as you do as a friendly Kiwi, you know, you do the old g'day mate. How's it, you know, you're visiting us for long. Turns out, Gordon, you've lived here for what, 18 years, or something? Yeah, 18 years.

And it turns out, I go, hey, what do you do? Turns out he works with my brother-in-law in an orchestra. As is the way, two degrees of separation in New Zealand. That was classic. That was absolutely classic. And then, so, and then I started talking to him about, you know, as I do, straight away, oh, you know, oh, so have you seen anything weird?

And it turns out he, he... Wow. That's always worth asking. It is. It's a great icebreaker. Yeah. Seen anything weird lately? Let me get my recorder out.

Don't you guys ask that? Ask that of everybody? No, but I think I might do from now on. You're courageous. Gordon, thank you. There was an amazing story and I was well told. Yeah. And I am, I'm convinced you saw something very, very strange.

I would love a sketch of that from your imagination. I draw something close. I can have a go at that, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, we'll put it up on our Facebook page. Yeah. All right. That would be superb.

And then we might get some more info on it, too. That's amazing. Cool. Okay, guys, well, that almost brings us, I guess, to the end of another fantastic podcast. Well done. All in the same room. It's nice to be breathing the same oxygen,

you know, in the same room occasionally. Once a year at least. And, but before we, of course, we wrap this show up, I just wanted to bring up a couple of things from the last couple of podcasts. Last week, when we obviously announced that your involvement in the X-Files remake. Yeah.

That should be exciting. It's just a t-shirt. It's not a remake. It's not a remake. It's a new season. New season, mate. Get it right. Get it right.

Okay. What are you wearing there, Rhys? Oh, this X-Files t-shirt. Oh, where'd you get that from? Rhys has got the classic, the poster that was on Fox Mulder's office wall. I want to believe with, of course, that beautiful picture of the UFO.

It's got that sort of official crew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to do the show, really, to get the shirt. All right. But I don't think we need to talk about this too much.

It's a funny thing. Well, no. The reason why I wanted to bring it up, sorry, Rhys, is that whilst I was flying back from the States the other day, I was listening to my music on my little cell phone, and all of a sudden, I went to one of the old podcasts, and I was like, oh, this would be funny.

Listen to our own podcast. I had listening, and it was one from a few months back. Now, I just want to play an excerpt from it here. There's some news I'm quite excited about that's semi-related to cryptozoology, and that is that the X-Files is coming back next year for a six-episode run. Yes!

And of course, the X-Files is really, it was one of those shows before, you know, all these other sort of networks. There you go. How was that? That is nuts. That's what I'm talking about. And I mean, you know, I'm excited.

I'm also, again, it brings up that feeling of jealousy inside me. Yeah. You know, I'm sharing the news of my favorite show, and one of you, lot bloody Rhys, goes off and just happens to burn it. I think it's part of the zeitgeist when we come up with news items.

No, it is so cool. But isn't the world so weird, though, that we can be talking about that news, and then you're in the show, and we'll all be watching that show in different ways when it comes out. It's so random, and I think what it is, is that, you know, we've managed to stretch ourselves

out there into the world and actually become part of the weirdness we're talking about. That's amazing. And the other little thing that I wanted to mention about last week's podcast is that, of course, Rhys announced that he had two things. He had some really amazing news to announce, which was the ex files, which is great.

The second one he announces that he had presents for us to give to us that episode. That's right. And then never gave them. Yeah. One thing led to another, and in this case, or in this case, it didn't. I forgot to hand them out, but when I was in Seattle,

I picked up some cool things from one of the many gift shops they have there, and I didn't realize at the time that Seattle was pretty much the capital of Bigfoot Mania. So there's a lot of stuff available. So I got you each a Bigfoot pocket journal. And they're both slightly different, and I've got a different one again, but... Oh, my goodness.

And you can see in there... Beautiful. It's a Bigfoot looking out onto a beautiful lake. Yeah. A nice little notepad for you to write down your sightings. Each page has a small Bigfoot in the right-hand bottom corner. And on the back, there's a little slip there for you to put there. Oh, if found, please contact, and you put your email...

Put my name there. ...and your phone number on. And please... And this one has got how to identify Bigfoot, and it's got circles around the hands. The specific hands? Yeah. This is so cool.

Thank you so much. That's pretty sweet, right? This is great. Thank you. It's a field journal. Yeah. Worldwide Bigfoot Research Team member. Yeah.

So we're members now, too. Yep. We are official members. Great big members. Thanks, Rhys. That is so wonderful. Guys, it's been great to be together for another edition of The Cryptid Factor, the world's only podcast

about the wonderful subject of cryptozoology. I know that's true, but that's our claim. If there are others, we've never heard of you. And you're probably not doing as well as us, because we've got a lot of listeners. Yeah, thanks for listening. It's really good of you. It's appreciated.

Without you, listeners, well, we'd probably do it anyway, wouldn't we? Oh, we do it. In fact, we do do it, and often don't bother recording it. So if this is being recorded, it's a bonus for you. Oh, am I recording?

I don't care if you're not. All right, we'll see you guys again soon. Thanks for tuning in. Bye. Bye, everyone. Bye. Bye. Thank you.

Thank you.