The Cryptid Factor - 26: #026 The Sour Toe Issue

Episode Date: July 25, 2017

Its another week, and its yet-again another CryptidFactor Episode! Prepare your ears for stolen drinking Toes, passport control blunders, another million dollar reward for Bigfoot and it's a slow week... for hacktivists. Enjoy!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Cryptid Factor, with Rhys Darby and Dan Schreiber. Oh, we are back. Hello. Hello. Hello. We're really good at these intros. It was a bit of a delay there. I decided to go with a ho-ho.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I thought that would be a sort of Christmasy. Yeah. For no reason. And then Buttons finally came in. And then Dan. Dan in the UK. Hello from the UK. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Oh my God, we're so international. And Buttons and I are together in New Zealand, which is a first for a while. Isn't it weird? Because last one was we were all together in LA. And now, like, we are so global. Yeah. It's almost like we're doing it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Let's split up. OK, we've done. This is boring. Let's go to different places and see if it works. Hey, can I tell you guys a thing I read about New Zealand today, just while it's being talked about? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I read that in December of last year, New Zealand tourist was detained by immigration in Kazakhstan for two days because they didn't know that New Zealand was a country. Oh my goodness. Yeah, they thought she was lying. They thought it was a part of Australia, like a city of Australia. And so when she had this separate passport,
Starting point is 00:02:09 they were like, you've made this up. This isn't real. That is amazing. When did you say that was? This was last year. What? Yeah, or like June, sometime last year. And did you say Kazakhstan?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Kazakhstan? Kazakhstan. Because how dare they? Of all the places, that's the most made up place. The cheek. The cheek. I've never heard of them. How dare they get me on the phone with that guy.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'd like to see his passport. How embarrassed would you be, though, to be an official passport control person and go, this is the fact, and then go and Google it and go, is New Zealand an actual country? Wow. And then come back and have to go, okay, you can go through.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah, just Google it. Just Google it. Yeah, you were right. It is. It's part of the world. Gosh, I mean, what sort of geography qualifications do these guys need over there? Well, to be fair, there's probably a great number
Starting point is 00:03:06 of people listening to this podcast going, where is New Zealand? Is that like some mythical, like that's a made up place for the Lord of the Rings? And I like the idea that we're a bit made up, a bit mythical. Possibly don't exist. It fits in with the show.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Oh, man. Yeah. Well, what a wonderful way to start. It's bright and early here in New Zealand, and we've just had bagels. Dan, you're there in the UK. It's your night time. That's weird, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah. Yeah, drinking a wine. Having a wine. Oh, nice. Well, we're having wines as well. We're having bagels. We're having bagels with our wines. Actually, I've got a lovely flat white New Zealand's invention,
Starting point is 00:03:50 I believe, the flat white coffee. Is it? I thought that was... Don't say it. Don't you say it, Dan. Don't even go there. Don't say Australia came up with that, because I will fight you to the death.
Starting point is 00:04:03 But yeah, you could be right. I'm not sure. There's one other one of us. But I'm taking the glory here. I'm a New Zealand spokesman. I'm saying the flat white is a New Zealand thing. You're a New Zealand spokesman. Have you ever had a flat white?
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's the greatest coffee in the world. If you've ever... I mean, don't get one. If you're listening in America, don't get one from Starbucks. That's not... Do they do flat whites? They try to. They've got it on the menu.
Starting point is 00:04:27 But people don't know what it is, and then they try and make something, and it's like, what's that? I don't know. Is that it? That'll do. It's not it. It's not it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah. Get one made for you by Kiwi or a Nozzi. I don't push. And it'll smash you. So the cryptid factor, I mean, we cover all of the hot topics of the week. People at passport control have initiatives, coffee, choices, and we're best to buy.
Starting point is 00:04:57 That's all we've got time for this week. But, you know, keep getting weird, folks. To be fair, it's been a dry week of news, isn't it? We should have done a book review. Travel spots. With that, before we lose too many more, isn't it? Shall we crack into the guts of it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Okay. Weekly World Weird News. Crazy, freaky. Watch out. Well, what do we have this week? Dan, what have you got on your side of the world? Okay, I've got a headline that I came across. It happened earlier this year.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's to do with Britain, and it's to do with a mystery. It's regarding an ex-footballer who's been receiving mysterious posts once a month for the last 20 years. I'll leave it at that for now. What? That's interesting. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Okay. I'm intrigued. I also have a mystery. There's a Canadian hotel who wants to get its hands on whoever stole their human toe. Oh. Yeah. Intriguing, right?
Starting point is 00:06:05 That's awesome. What? Wait till you hear... Oh, I can't wait now. What the toe was used for. I don't know that I want to know now. I'm scared. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Well, my one is, Nessa is about to make a huge announcement about alien life according to Hectivist Group. I heard about this. I'm excited about this, although I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical too, but we can still cover it.
Starting point is 00:06:31 So, okay. Well, then Dan, fill us in. So, this is an ex-footballer in the UK called Gary Linnaker. Oh, he's famous. Yeah, well-famous. Yeah, yeah. Super big guy, and he's a major commentator here now in the UK.
Starting point is 00:06:47 So, he revealed on Twitter a few months ago that for the last 10 years, for every month, sorry, for the last 20 years, every month he's received in the post a single sheet of used toilet paper. What? What?
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah. No. How often? Once a year? No, once a month. Once a month? No, once a month for the last 20 years. Someone from Bath in the UK,
Starting point is 00:07:17 because it has a sort of postal area code on the envelope, has been sending him this one sheet of used toilet paper. Now, the only reason we know this is because on Twitter, another famous commentator and former cricketer called Jonathan Agnew also tweeted that for the last 10 years, he's been receiving a monthly sheet of used toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:07:38 No. Yeah. So, Gary Linnaker spotted his tweet and said, by any chance, has it got a Bath postcode? And he said, yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So, they may be getting sent from the same dirty toilet paper man. That's so weird and freaky. What a commitment. Or lady, it could be lady. Yeah. I mean, it could be a lady, but I would put money on that being a man. That's a man.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Someone who's disgruntled with some football score or some behaviour back in the day. But also cricketer as well. You say he was a former cricketer player as well. Yeah. I think with Jonathan Agnew, the cricketer, I have a feeling there's something to do with he pooed himself out on the field or something.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It's a kind of reminder for him, I think. So, yeah. Linnaker. So weird. Linnaker, no idea. No idea what's going on. That is so freaky. What do you do about that?
Starting point is 00:08:37 I mean, you go to the cops. What are they going to do? I mean... Well, they can trace mail. They can find out where it's coming from, right? Yeah. Well, actually, earlier this year in Italy, police actually tracked down another pair.
Starting point is 00:08:50 This is a completely separate story of a pair of poo sending toilet paper criminals. Yeah. And the police tracked them down. They sent thousands over two years to just celebrities and all sorts of different people. And they found it was a 71-year-old former policeman and his partner.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Really? Weird and his partner. It's so weird. They were using pet poo. Oh, come on. Yeah. And they had... When they busted the house,
Starting point is 00:09:18 they'd had 110 pre-packed envelopes ready to go. Oh, come on. They've turned it into a factory. This is amazing. Oh, no, this is so weird. Rhys, what would you do if somebody started doing that to you? What do you do if you start... Once a month, you start going,
Starting point is 00:09:32 no, here it is again. Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. You would recognise the envelope when it came with the handwriting or whatever. Like they said, the postage stamp was from a bath or whatever. So as soon as you got another one,
Starting point is 00:09:45 you'd just start straight in the bin. I mean, you wouldn't. You'd know what it was. See, I would argue. You'd open the first one or two. Maybe the third just... Oh, no, it's still the same thing. Still poos.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Still poos. No change. Oh, I thought it might be money. Yeah. I would argue... It would affect you psychologically, though. Yeah, I would argue, though, that if you kept one envelope of pooey toilet paper
Starting point is 00:10:10 a month for 20 years and you kept every one of them and cataloged them all an amazing box that, like one of these sports celebrities would be able to sell that. Like that would be amazing. Oh, yeah. Imagine that as a collector's item.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Oh, yeah. You know, like people pay so much for sports mirror bill. Yeah. And imagine if one of these, you know, sort of former sports celebrities went, here you go, here is my massive trough of pooey toilet paper things that have been coming for the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I mean, it's actually an amazing art piece. Yeah. He should have been collecting them. Well, he may be. Well, he may be. That's contact. Yeah, I think it's definitely worth not only investigating, obviously,
Starting point is 00:10:50 to find the culprit, but to document the whole thing and film finding this guy. I mean, I would watch that doco on Netflix, you know, the shit senders. Shit senders. Shit senders. So keeping in line with human weirdness,
Starting point is 00:11:07 we have a stolen human toe situation going on in Canada. Yeah, a hotel in Canada's Yukon territory, we're familiar with the Yukon. That's right up the north there. Very vast, very bizarre, very northern part of Canada. Chile, you know, amazing animals.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah. They want to conduct a manhunt for a person who stole a human toe. Now, not just any toe. Okay, this is a toe that the downtown hotel in Dawson City uses in its signature drink, the sour toe cocktail.
Starting point is 00:11:46 What? Wow. Yeah. People come from all over the world to try this drink, which is basically a shot of whiskey with a dehydrated toe in it. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. Now, just to give you a brief history of this toe drink, I'm going to play this video here so you guys can hear the audio. My name is Captain Al Seder at the Sourdough Saloon in downtown Dawson City.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I do have a special talent for putting a severed human toe in people's drinks. It started by this man, Captain Dick Stevenson. It became a way for people who would visit Dawson
Starting point is 00:12:32 to become an honorary sourdough. It's not mandatory, but hey, it's a lot of fun. I'm about to take a nice little cocktail here, and I'm going to put Yukon Jack and a little bit of a toe in there. Add some spice. There it is.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Congratulations, Roger. Thank you. Welcome to the club. Okay, a lot of the art, a lot of this video is music. But anyway, just a long story short, basically there's this old guy.
Starting point is 00:13:18 His name is... I'm struggling to find it on here now. It's very early in the morning here. It's very early in the morning. I'm just going to read what it says here. Yeah, here we are. Furious, Terry Lee, the hotel's toe captain, said,
Starting point is 00:13:43 Lee suspects a man from Quebec in the toe theft. Earlier in the evening, the man allegedly bragged about possibly stealing the toe. The guy asked... So this guy asked to do the toe after the 9 to 11 p.m.
Starting point is 00:14:00 toe time hours. So that's when you're supposed to do the toe drink. Any time between 9 to 11. So basically, yeah, it's a shriveled up severed toe. It's dropped in a glass of whiskey and you basically skull it. Now, of course, you don't swallow the toe. Because there's only one severed toe.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And there's one rule about drinking this concoction. You can drink it fast or you can drink it slow. But your lips must touch the toe. So that's, you know, you can see why people are coming from all over the world for this novelty idea of having a shot or something with someone's old toe in it. I mean, it's gross, obviously, but it's wonderful as well.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's one of the wonders of the world. Yeah, I've done it. I've done the toe type thing. It's probably the best Instagram you could ever send, right? Yeah, so this chap wanted to do the toe. But he wanted to do it outside of toe hours. And one of the new staff served it to him to be nice. You know, he probably shouldn't have. And I bet you that staff member's been fired.
Starting point is 00:15:08 But because now the toe's gone. This is how he pays her back. What a low life. Not a toe life. So that customer has taken off and the hotel plans to find this thief $2,500 unless the toe is returned. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So there's a reward out there for this missing, severed, shriveled toe. So if you are in the Yukon area or if you've heard of someone who's just said, hey, you know that famous toe from that drink? I've got it. Well, then go along with it and I'll give a look at it and then actually take it.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Grab it. Punch that guy in the head and return the toe, please, if you can, to the downtown hotel in Dawson City in the Yukon so that the sour toe cocktail, ladies and gentlemen, can continue because I, for one, want to try it. Where does the old toe come from? You want some history on that old, grotty old toe? Yeah, I want to know about the old toe
Starting point is 00:16:04 because I want to know because generally, toes come in pairs, right? So why don't they just sever off the other one and start dehydrating that one? Well, the... What do you mean they come on pairs? Whoa, you can't. Yeah, I was confused by that.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Can I have a look at your toes, please? Buttons only has two toes on each feet. No, you know what I mean, there's two big toes and then there's two toes next to it if it was a big toe. This might have been a problem which maybe is why they've specified that it specifically is a second toe,
Starting point is 00:16:41 the one next to the big toe because maybe people like yourself were finding loose big toes and bringing them back thinking you're going to claim the reward and actually it's the second toe. Some disparate guys might cut off their own big toe, shrivel it up and take it back there for the two and a half grand.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Well, now all the other bars in the world are going to be doing it, aren't they? They're going to be like, well, we've got the toe and who's going to know who's got the real toe and they'll say, no, we bought it, we bought the toe and we've got it and you've got to come and try and it's just all these imitation toes. This is what happens with religious relics all the time.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Oh, yeah. There's tons of, you know, bits of all sorts of saints and Jesus and Jesus's relatives as a result of this kind of thing. It goes missing and then people say, now we have it and so I think Jesus's grandmother has about seven heads around the world at the moment
Starting point is 00:17:37 while claiming. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, if you find a bit of civvied something and keep it in a jar, you've got a gold mine there. You know what, I just had an idea of opening a bar that just has a whole bunch of civvied weird stuff and you just say, like, can I have a whiskey
Starting point is 00:17:56 with a, you know, civvied... Goat's eyeball. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty gross but it's, you know, you could be onto a winner there. This is just, you know, this is the tip of the iceberg this civvied toe drink. It is. He started a thing and now that we've reported on it everybody's going to want to have a hoon on it.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I think now everyone knows. Yeah. And then the other thing is that potentially what happened is that person was like, oh, I have to, I was thinking that you were going to say that the toe, one of the rules is that the toe must not touch the lips. And then maybe this person was like, uh, freaked out at the part was going to touch the lips,
Starting point is 00:18:34 went to scream, opened their mouth, toe went in and they freaked out and they're like, oh god, I swallowed the toe and then they legged it. Yeah. I don't think this is the original toe, by the way. This is like the second toe from this institution. This hotel does the drink. The original toe, when Terry Lee came across, he perched this old shack in the middle of nowhere in the Yukon
Starting point is 00:19:00 and it came with all the stuff that was inside it. If you go to this Google the site and watch the history of the toe video, you'll find out about it. And when he got this old shack, the severed toe was in it. It was part of the stuff that was in it. So he was like, what am I going to do with this shriveled toe? I see nobody even knows where this toe came from.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think there is the story about the toe. But I can't recall it right now. I'm not going to pull it up. But all I know is that the toe captain, as he's called, this old sea hearty looking guy. Yeah, that's how we came across it. So I think the original toe was swallowed. Yeah, but we believe that this latest toe was swiped.
Starting point is 00:19:50 The replica toe. But you are asking for trouble. You're doing a shot drink and you're saying, don't swallow the thing. It's going to be pretty hard. People are already a bit drunk when they do it. Of course. How many times have you swallowed?
Starting point is 00:20:06 That's when you're not supposed to. Let's move on. What have you got? Let's definitely move on from that. Oh, my God. OK, well, from toes to space. Oh, good. So hacktivist group anonymous,
Starting point is 00:20:24 which is to be fair for a hacktivist group, very, very reputable, right? They've done some amazing things. Just to be clear, so it's an hacktivist group that hacks. Yeah. And so they've made up that word hacktivist. Hacktivist. Just to make the listeners clear.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah, that's right. Just so in case you didn't. It's clever, isn't it? It's clever. Just in case you haven't been alive. So the hacktivist. Hacktivist. And they do that because obviously they use their hacking
Starting point is 00:20:55 powers for the good of being able to. Yeah, reveal truth to the world. Reveal truth. That's right. And they've done things with, you know, they reveal stuff about the Westboro Baptist Church and Donald Trump and ISIS and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, in its latest YouTube video,
Starting point is 00:21:11 I'll give you in a second. Anonymous states that a NASA spokesperson called Professor Thomas Zabrucken told a recent US Science, Space and Technology Committee meeting that extraterrestrial life could soon be proven. Wow. I know. And so he's quoted as saying,
Starting point is 00:21:31 our civilization is on the verge of discovering evidence of alien life in our cosmos. And taking into account all of the different activities and missions that are searching for alien life, we are on the verge of making one of the most profound unprecedented discoveries in history. That's the one we're waiting for. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Literally why I'm alive. I'm waiting for the announcement. But the interesting thing is so many people have said that, right? And it doesn't sound like much of a headline because so many people have said, oh, we're going to find out soon. There's been movies about it.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Proof is on the way. It's not far. It's been in at 12 PM on Wednesday. They've generally... Just an ad for Subway. Exactly. Well, they... Sorry, but the footlongs are on special.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Gotcha. That was an alien. Alien aliens like him. More truth revealed on Thursday. You should be in marketing. That's a genius idea. Yeah, but this is from NASA. You've got to understand this is NASA
Starting point is 00:22:36 saying to space and science. Yeah. Can that's just NASA? It's not hack NASA or anything like that? Or HESA? HESA. It's simply NASA. But it says, obviously, this is speculation
Starting point is 00:22:49 at present. There's no evidence, at least none that we know of. But it proves that NASA is right in there, you know, that they are believers as well, that they themselves believe that we are closer than ever now
Starting point is 00:23:06 to proving alien life. And just last week, NASA discovered 219 new planets, 10 of which are rocky planets, and possibly not that too dissimilar to Earth, which could house extraterrestrial life as well.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So here's this little segment of the hacktivist video here. NASA Mankind is about to discover extraterrestrial life. This was stated by the spokesman of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Starting point is 00:23:39 during one of the last hearings of the Committee for Science, Space and Technology of the United States. Are you ready for disclosure? Or are you expecting little micro-organisms on a distant moon in our solar system? There are many who claim that unofficially, mankind has already
Starting point is 00:23:57 made contact with aliens, and not just little micro-organism floating around inside a massive alien ocean, but advanced space-faring civilizations. 25 years ago, we didn't know that planets existed beyond our solar system.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Today, we have confirmed the existence of over 3,400 dexoplanets that orbit other suns. Alright, man, I'm going to stop you there. That is fantastic. Thank you. Thanks for that news. Just a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I think, you know, when you're revealing astonishing news items, you know, maybe have a bit of intonation in your voice. Maybe sort of make it more exciting so that people don't switch off. I mean, that's why I'm hired
Starting point is 00:24:45 often as a voice artist, because I can go, did you know that it's going to be amazing? And you go, watch out, because you never know, because these things could happen. You know, that's exciting. When you talk like this, and don't you know that when they do this, there are different planets that are going to be
Starting point is 00:25:01 inside of us. We will find that there is alien bugs dust. That's the Hectivist Group calling card. We're in a mask, so you can't see who they are. Right, it is. They do it every time. It's so boring. It's so boring. But man, every announcement. Also, it feels like
Starting point is 00:25:17 a bit of a slow week for Anonymous if they're talking about the idea of maybe someone's going to find some evidence of alien life. They keep announcing these things, but there's no, I'd love to know the hit rate of things that actually they do, and is revealed to be true.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Because it's a lot of threats. Yeah, it could be their fallback position. So we haven't got anything this week. Let's do aliens. Do we have any updates on that? Well, we can talk about how there's 219 planets similar to Earth in the Goldilocks Zone, and there's bound to be some aliens.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Chuck NASA in there. Do the voice. Okay, I will do the voice. They'll go for it. I think that's the thing. They're anonymous. I think all of them have to talk in that voice to each other, so the meetings last for hours to try to get a conversation. Stephen Hawking is the CEO of Anonymous.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I will join this group, but you all have to talk like me. Did you guys see that there's other news from a NASA-related guy who's, he's an aerospace mogul. So he's a billionaire who works with NASA, and he was interviewed at the end of May
Starting point is 00:26:23 on 60 minutes, and he was asked does he believe that UFOs have come to Earth? So this is a guy who's very closely associated with NASA and development of stuff that they're doing. Oh yeah. And he said, this is a quote, he says, there has been and is an existing presence,
Starting point is 00:26:39 an ET presence. I have spent millions and millions and millions. I probably spent more as an individual than anyone else in the United States has ever spent on this subject. And they said, is this risky for you to be in public saying this, that you believe in UFOs and aliens? And he said, I don't give a
Starting point is 00:26:55 damn, I don't care. So he has outright said that he believes that there is an ET presence already on Earth existing and has been existing. It's astonishing, and I mean, what do you guys think? Do you think that's true? Do you think
Starting point is 00:27:11 they're here? I mean, it's pretty obvious that these things are real, UFOs are real, people have seen them. I've seen things up in the sky that I can't explain. But when you take it to that next level and say they are amongst us and they are
Starting point is 00:27:27 either disguised or hidden or working with governments, I mean, that's taking that extra leap of faith or belief. But I mean, you know, where do you guys stand? I mean, I really, I just don't know. I want to
Starting point is 00:27:43 believe, but I worry. I do, because, you know, obviously it's exciting, and I think when you think about... He's just trying to get to telling us that you've been on X-Files again. This is actually contracted to use that line now. Reminds me of that time I was on X-Files.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah, I mean, it just, it makes sense, but I mean, if that's true, then where are we going with them? When are they going to reveal? I mean, I would love for the world now to be mature enough to go, okay, let's tell everyone.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Here they are, and a curtain opens and these, you know, slightly odd looking, still pretty humanistic looking, but maybe, you know, their eyes are slightly bigger or something like that come out and go, hi, well, yeah, I'm just working with George and Mike here.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I've been running a delicatessen on the corner for the last 30 years. I mean, would that, when I would change, I think they're worried that it would change the global mindset of humans so much that
Starting point is 00:28:49 our world would implode because of religion and everything, nothing makes sense anymore, but that is, we need to get to that truth point so that we can move on and go forward from here. Well, the thing that brings me back to my thing is that if
Starting point is 00:29:05 there are area 51s and, you know, these kind of secret zones for the government because they know something more than the normal human knows, there must be a bigger reason why they're keeping it secret, which brings me back to my theory about aliens being
Starting point is 00:29:21 time travelers from the future because that's a much bigger reason to keep aliens secret. But therefore, you're saying not really aliens, it's just it is just us. Time travelers. So you're involved humans. Because what would be worse,
Starting point is 00:29:37 I mean, I want there to be aliens and I want to believe as well. But if you think about it, if they needed to keep a secret, which is a bigger secret to keep, that people in the future have worked out the ability to be able to time travel and they come back and they look like
Starting point is 00:29:53 us little humans, but with bigger eyes and no hair because that's how we've evolved into that. Or that there is extraterrestrial life in that they're coming. I mean, for me, that would be a really brilliant reason for the government to set up
Starting point is 00:30:09 an area for time travelers to come back to. That's top secret. I read a book buttons that I should send to you. It's called Who Built the Moon and and it's really, it's, you know, I love these theories when someone's
Starting point is 00:30:25 put together a theory that's just covered at every corner and this is this is one of those where they talk about the fact that the moon is so improbable, so improbable the way it's positioned the size of it. It shouldn't be there. Life depends entirely on it and
Starting point is 00:30:41 I think it was Ian M. Banks, he wrote a novel which he said that if we ever did get visited by aliens, they would probably come just as tourists to watch an eclipse because how extraordinary that the moon and the sun are the
Starting point is 00:30:57 same size in the sky that just doesn't happen anywhere. So true. You would come to watch an eclipse. What an extraordinary coincidence. So they built this idea that the moon is artificial because NASA released this thing a long time ago. I don't know
Starting point is 00:31:13 how true it is, but they said that if you hit the moon, it rings like a bell suggesting it's hollow. I've heard that. Yeah. So the idea that it's hollow. So they write this whole book where they're talking about the fact that the moon is artificial and then they say well who built the moon and they conclude on the idea, it's a bit of a spoiler alert
Starting point is 00:31:29 that it was evolved advanced humans who had to travel back in time in order to create the moon in order that they existed all. So it's this weird time paradox that future humans created past humans and I don't know how that loop can begin
Starting point is 00:31:45 but I love that shit. I'm so, I love that. I love what that does to my brain. I'm like wow that is genius. I've never seen your eyes looking so fresh but it's actually yeah. You breathe life into my soul. Yeah, he looks magical.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Oh no, it's died back down. It's just gone to the normal. It's gone. It was a good moment though. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, I've always thought that I'm a keen believer in the alien moon bases as well because there has been these Chinese satellite
Starting point is 00:32:17 photographs of structures on the moon that definitely look man-made you know, don't look natural. And then there's the theories of why we haven't been back after the those NASA missions
Starting point is 00:32:33 and I'm looking forward to another nation like China or Russia and actually getting there and having a look for themselves. I'm sure NASA will pass on some information. I actually don't go because yeah, it's made of metal.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Well, it's not cheese. I thought it was cheese. No, it's not. There was more of a joke, the cheese there. Oh, I was like, oh, that's why we've got the whole New Zealand dairy manufacturing system. We built a rocket to collect cheese.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Well, I do pick up on the fact that you said either Russia or China getting there, but it could be New Zealand. We've made our own rocket. Yeah, we could be there next. We have entered the space race. Yeah, we have. I don't think Australia.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I'm just checking my Google here. I don't know whether Australia has. I think we've invented a beer that can be taken up to the international space. I think that's literally all the Aussies. Well, I think that's cool because the rocket we've made probably is big enough
Starting point is 00:33:39 to hold a beer. With our powers combined. I think we could put your beer into our rocket, maybe tape it to the side and shoot that up and that'll be the South Pacific's contribution. Genius.
Starting point is 00:33:55 We've got 25 minutes left before Rhys has to go and do some important media engagements. He's very important. He probably needs to tell you about his upcoming tour. One of the reasons I agreed to do this podcast today was just to
Starting point is 00:34:11 promote my tour. By the time this podcast comes out, the tour could well be over. I will say it went very well. I toured New Zealand and I also did some dates in Australia with my new show Mystic
Starting point is 00:34:27 Timebird. Very happy with how it went. I'm very nervous. I've written nothing. It went well. It went very well. Talk about time travel.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I do it all the time. I do it now. It's amazing. Let's do some cryptozoology. Here we go. Attention. Old personnel. It's time for this week's cryptid. Help me.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Let's do it in the same order. I've got a story here. This is quite exciting. A million dollar bounty for Bigfoot has been issued by a man in Pennsylvania who is known as the godfather of Bigfoot
Starting point is 00:35:15 in Pennsylvania. Tom Biscardi. We know this guy. Tom Biscardi. He's legendary. He's classic. Every story needs a villain. A bad guy.
Starting point is 00:35:31 He's money hungry. He's not a popular Bigfooter as far as I can see. I'm surprised I hadn't heard his name before and you guys obviously had. The shocking thing for me is you don't want to hunt Bigfoot. This guy looks like
Starting point is 00:35:47 he's wanted dead or alive Bigfoot. I may be misquoting him. I apologize if I am because he sounds very rich and can financially ruin me. He's put a one million dollar bounty for information leading to the
Starting point is 00:36:03 capture or delivery of a bona fide Bigfoot. That's just happened. It sounds like to me because this guy's been around for a long time and he I think he's got to the point now where he's had enough.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I need to see this thing. I need to know whether it's real or not. I'm putting a million bucks on the table. Please, someone bring me the body. Once it is done he'll get the fame from it. Someone will get a million bucks.
Starting point is 00:36:35 If he has a million bucks I don't know about that but if he does it's one thing. That's an invitation to so many hunters and it's quite scary.
Starting point is 00:36:51 We don't want that to happen and of course the forest region that these things live in I think there is you can hunt at certain times of the year in these parts of the Sierra Forest.
Starting point is 00:37:09 The thing that makes me think about a movie that we reviewed years ago on the Cryptid Factor and it has in it David Rash and I don't know if you remember David Rash he was Sledgehammer. He did this amazing
Starting point is 00:37:25 Crypta Bigfoot movie and I'm just looking up his IMDB because I can't actually remember the name of it but I will just play you this little quick thing that I remember editing way back when I was a little boy which is a little
Starting point is 00:37:41 segment of his quote which is a brilliant quote for the movie cut to the wonderful theme tune to his TV show Sledgehammer. Here you go. Wait a minute. What's a joke?
Starting point is 00:37:57 You don't think that Bigfoot really exists? I have a little trouble accepting. Accepting what? That there are over two million acres of uncharted wilderness in the Northwest? That there are conceivably animals on this planet that are as yet undiscovered by man?
Starting point is 00:38:13 What about the bones? He wants to know about the bones. Let me tell you about the bones. You really don't have to. No, I want to. Did you know the scientists believe that they buried their dead just like humans? Do you have trouble accepting the fact
Starting point is 00:38:29 that there are thousands of bears in the wilderness? And yet last year not one bear was found that died of natural causes. Not one! Trust me. I know what I'm doing. This case also reminds me
Starting point is 00:38:47 of that old adage which I could be just making up now on the spot, but those that seek the hardest or will never find. And I think that's the case of you look at these guys that
Starting point is 00:39:03 Percy Fossett who wanted to find El Dorado David Livingston people that are searching and searching King Solomon's minds, these things, and they spend their whole life and there's some biblical explorers
Starting point is 00:39:21 looking for tablets and the Moses Mountain although I think that one has been discovered, but I think and also those searching for the Holy Grail obviously is the big one and they don't
Starting point is 00:39:37 get there. And I think when people find something, it's often they come across it by mistake or you hear more readily that fantastical things are discovered just through sheer
Starting point is 00:39:55 earnest curiosity and also through mishap. And this guy, he's got money and he's going, I'm just going to offer this award and it's not going to happen. He sounds desperate.
Starting point is 00:40:13 He says, I want a creature I'm done with pictures, done with prints, done with hair samples, done with fecal matter. So he's obviously done with it all and he's not getting younger. Done with fecal matter. So that movie was Bigfoot, The Unforgettable Encounter
Starting point is 00:40:29 from 1994 which basically on IMDb was great, gets four out of ten on IMDb and it says A solid four? A solid four? A boy's discovery of a legendary forest creature results in a media
Starting point is 00:40:45 frenzy and the arrival of bounty hunters. So it's a great movie to watch if you're into your crypto movies but that is basically that depicts, it's almost like perfect depiction of our guy
Starting point is 00:41:01 and I've got to say what's that going to do, a million dollars? I mean, you know, like that's you know. Well you can buy a good Tesla for that but look we talk about desperation of the hunt
Starting point is 00:41:17 and you really want something I mean, you know the same can't be said for life in terms of if you really want something in life if you work hard you can get out there and get it but
Starting point is 00:41:33 when it's something that is of a mystical quality I think there you're pushing shit uphill Yes, Indiana Jones found Holy Grail but let's not forget that was a fictional story.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And also he didn't believe in it Yeah, true. No, he didn't believe he was going to find it. Yeah, exactly. So if you take it that way, yeah, he didn't think he was going to find it so I think that's the key. Well also just make sure you're staying aware in the moments where you're not desperately looking for it.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Last year there was a team of researchers last year in Australia who were searching for Aboriginal evidence in a certain bit of Australia and they pulled over because one needed a piss and he went over and he had a pee and he looked down and noticed he was
Starting point is 00:42:23 peeing into this clearly occupied ancient cave and it turned out to be the oldest example of an Australian Aboriginal habitat home that we found so far it was completely unexpected and he was pissing on it
Starting point is 00:42:39 he was literally pissing and I spoke to an explorer in Venezuela, I don't know if he's lying or if he's telling the truth but and he's the guy very similar to Biscari here, he's had a character based on him in a movie which
Starting point is 00:42:55 is the explorer in the movie Up in the Pixar movie. And he was out in because he lives in Venezuela, he was out in the forest and he had a poo and he said he looked down in between his legs just to make sure nothing was going to bite him he was having a poo and he saw
Starting point is 00:43:11 glistening gold and he claims he's now found Eldorado while having a poo like he wasn't looking for his he wasn't looking for the city. Well talking about coming across things by mistake or in your travels as opposed to
Starting point is 00:43:27 you know on a purposeful seek as we discussed earlier in South Africa some footage has been revealed it's about three minutes long and it shows a pack of dogs and a human-like figure running along on four
Starting point is 00:43:43 legs with the dogs so you know people putting out the term dogman and dogman is, this is on cryptozoologynews.com dogman is a cryptid reputed to live in the northwestern
Starting point is 00:43:59 quadrant of Michigan's lower peninsula although other sightings have been reported in different locations such as Kentucky so it makes absolutely no sense that this dogman of course is in South Africa so it's a different dogman
Starting point is 00:44:15 and it is clearly a human on four legs but what I was astonished with is how freaky and how easily this human gets about on four legs and
Starting point is 00:44:31 just the general movement and the gate of the movement is sort of off-putting when you look at it and you know this car has just come alongside the road and just someone's just filmed this and so I'll show the video you guys want to have a look at the video at the same time and we'll have a quick
Starting point is 00:44:47 discuss of it here so push play now are you watching it Dan? Yeah, I am, yeah. So there's a car driving along So he knows he's seen something? Yeah and then he's pulling it up now
Starting point is 00:45:03 and you can see it over in the distance and I think it's because of this distance that you're looking at it it does look, it looks weird and you can see there's other, it looks like a human crawling on all fours. Yeah, which
Starting point is 00:45:19 isn't easy to do anyone can do it but it's not a comfortable thing but then you watch that's definitely not faked either as well it gets better as the car reverses here and
Starting point is 00:45:35 they have a lock. Oh they're brave people Well brave but also you can, it's a dude on four legs, it's kind of like I'll check this out but just the movement this movement here is really good it looks like a horse. Yeah so it's trotting
Starting point is 00:45:51 really well. Do you think it's something like Tarzan being raised by the animals? Well it does come across that way more movement coming up that is equally off-putting
Starting point is 00:46:07 you know it's just part of this horse pack or this dog pack because also you can't tell what the person's sort of wearing or whatever and it just looks it looks like a freaky animal. See look there the movement's really good there look it's just walking along
Starting point is 00:46:23 Oh that is definitely the freakiest video I have seen in a long time Yeah that's really weird. Yeah when I first saw it. See look there it's quite good Oh my god No you couldn't you couldn't face that either No the movement there is
Starting point is 00:46:39 so natural. But it's three minutes worth of video as well. If I was to try and do that you might be able to do it for 20 seconds faking it but this is clearly how this animal gets around. This is it's natural. It looks like
Starting point is 00:46:55 it couldn't even stand up. It looks like if I was to try and stand up and walk bipedally it looks like it wouldn't be able to do it because it's whole back and everything is all arched in a way that is wow that's amazing. Definitely go and watch it and hit us up on
Starting point is 00:47:11 Facebook if you give us your theories on that because that's... Well you can but also if you read the article there's a reveal there's a reveal just below there's another video of what appears to be the same you say animal
Starting point is 00:47:27 there's a person. Philip, his name is 19 years old but get this his surname is Oliphant Philip Oliphant. So if you had that as a surname you'd think, yeah I'm gonna... Is that how he just decides to get around? Well he claims to love dogs, he loves dogs
Starting point is 00:47:43 and it's made him behave just like them so there's another video here it's still freaky but look there he is again there he is just on the streets but he has like baked bean cans
Starting point is 00:47:59 or something on the end of his leg, the end of his arm so it makes them longer so I think he's just done this he's been doing this his whole life and he's sitting down like a dog so his friends are filming If you knew this, why wasn't your
Starting point is 00:48:15 article video of Philip pretending to be a dog? No because I wanted to take you through the weirdness of it and you know I'm not saying definitely this is Philip again but if it is, Philip please contact us
Starting point is 00:48:31 Well he's very impressive Philip is very impre... like it's not... I don't know that it deserves to be then in cryptozoological news but thanks for your story
Starting point is 00:48:47 5 minutes well this will lead us to Mystic Timebird throughout New Zealand 19 different towns my very quick story you have things still playing video still Philip
Starting point is 00:49:03 still everybody's laughing at Philip there you go here's my story Pennsylvania man says 8 white humanoids are killing wildlife and troops ok so this isn't Bradford in Pennsylvania and
Starting point is 00:49:19 this resident of Bradford is asking for help dealing with these unusual creatures this man has said that he sees these creatures 24-7 they are living in the higher parts of pine trees
Starting point is 00:49:35 and he says that these 8 white creatures are able to blend in with trees and like a chameleon as easy as that they just blend into a tree they become one with the trees their hands and the trees become rooted
Starting point is 00:49:51 together when they rest he explains he says he's afraid of going and investigating on his own because he is seeing dead animals in the area he said I saw some of our troop dead over there
Starting point is 00:50:07 and I'm afraid to go there by myself when they say troop whether or not he means military personnel or maybe he meant coop, you know like chickens but but he said he's definitely seeing dead animals and he's quite freaked out
Starting point is 00:50:23 he says this is no joke he says somebody needs to come and take a look and help him he hasn't got any video evidence or anything like that unfortunately I did read this article and go it just sounds like he's on drugs but in late 2016
Starting point is 00:50:39 two people from Arizona claimed to have been chased by a group of humanoids that looked very similar to the way he's describing these ones in the summer of 1955 a family of in Hobsonville, Kentucky reported to have suffered a similar
Starting point is 00:50:55 experience on a rural farmhouse and in 2015 a man in Connecticut said his backyard had been taken over by a group of humanoids that he claimed to be living in pine trees oh wow this is the first I've heard of
Starting point is 00:51:11 these kind of tree dwelling humanoid creatures but I did think that as we've only got a couple of minutes left I thought that another great piece of audio that we haven't played in a long time which relates beautifully
Starting point is 00:51:27 to this is our 911 call should we play our 911 call out because you haven't heard this have you Dan no I haven't okay well let's play that actually play that for legit now because this is freaking amazing we like this because we we used to play this quite a bit back in the day
Starting point is 00:51:43 I mean let's not forget this show's been around since 2008 and when we started in a radio studio we had access to far more computer sound by situations than we do now with
Starting point is 00:51:59 our old sticker laden laptops on a crappy desk and buttons beach house but you know the mood and the wonder is still there
Starting point is 00:52:15 can I say one more thing before we go here we go breaking news I just did a bit of googling the stolen toe from sour toe cocktail has been returned this is our first ever breaking news
Starting point is 00:52:31 on the crypto that's like a real live update it's been returned with an apology note and it's in a satisfactory condition and it's going to head right back into it's a time slot for
Starting point is 00:52:47 sour toe cocktails excellent and that has happened during our show so obviously because this goes out live so the people have heard my call for it and someone someone listening to the cryptid factor has gone you know what I love these guys
Starting point is 00:53:03 I can't do this any I'm dishonest I've taken the toe I'm going to return it so thank you whoever that was I feel I feel this is great I feel like we've really done something our last eight years of podcasting has all
Starting point is 00:53:19 amounted to this we've made an effect on the world a positive effect the toe has returned hey and well done for toeing the line here's a no one one call see you later dad see you next week bye love you
Starting point is 00:53:55 I didn't see any cars all I saw was my dog coming over the fence 911 what are you reporting we got someone or something crawling around out here did you see what it was was it a person or an animal or I can't tell all I know is that my
Starting point is 00:54:11 center light came on and I just happened to glance and see this thing running across the yard a good sized man or something looks like a man I don't know what it was just it ran across the yard okay you've had problems in the neighborhood before yeah my dog was killed here just recently I don't know what it was
Starting point is 00:54:27 whatever it is just running I couldn't catch it if I was going to chase it so whatever it was it was standing up I'm out here looking through the window now and I don't see anything I don't want to go outside Jesus Christ you better come on see him hello
Starting point is 00:54:43 get somebody out here what's going on now sir that son of a bitch is about six foot nine I don't know do you see him now sir yes I'm looking right at him hello okay hang on he's right is he in your yard sir
Starting point is 00:54:59 yeah he's big okay what's he doing in your yard he's looking at me and the guy is on foot I don't know it's a big real big person that's all I can say okay but it is a it is a person
Starting point is 00:55:15 yeah I'd say it was a person somebody really big white male did you actually see what or was he just wearing black he's all black and he's big he is big you

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