The Cryptid Factor - 41: #041 The Fairy Issue

Episode Date: February 25, 2019

Wow - Haven't you been patient?! This episode comes to you direct from the far distant past - and has been in editing limbo on Buttons' laptop for quite some time. But at last - here it is. The Crypti...d Factor's Fairy Special! Probably don't need to say anymore - apart, perhaps, from the fact that old James Bond makes multiple appearances!!! Whhhaaaat??? Enjoy... please?!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Cryptid Factor with Rhys Darby and Dan Schreiber. Hello and welcome to The Cryptid Factor. I'm Rhys Darby and with me of course my cohorts Dan Schreiber. Hello, hello. And the one and only Button. Hello. I don't know what happened then. I don't know how that came out of weird.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Sorry. Where are you? Are you sitting with the Queen? Hell yeah! You might be one of these people that assimilates to the person that they're with. You know, you get these people that... I mean, I'm a bit of one of those sometimes. You hang out with certain people who've got accents or whatever
Starting point is 00:01:25 or they've got a sort of a way of being and within minutes you sort of become them. That's what I do. That's exactly what I do. You do do that, don't you? Well that's sometimes when I'm around you, my voice goes all kind of squeaky and... Oh, how dare you? Well, I am around the Queen at the moment.
Starting point is 00:01:42 My friend Mike, I've come all the way to Vancouver. So I'm in Vancouver now, guys. Vancouver? Gosh, you're... Sorry, I'm talking. Gosh, you're hard to keep up with. What? Why are you there?
Starting point is 00:01:56 I don't know just for excitement. Top secret, is it? Top secret. I'm on the hunt. I'm on the hunt for something. Oh, okay. I don't know what I'm hunting for yet. Well, it's funny you should say that you're looking for something
Starting point is 00:02:09 because we're all looking for something, folks. And this week, it's really... I mean, that just sprung to mind as a nice springboard feature. God, I wish I hadn't started this paragraph. Paragraph. When you're talking, are they counted as paragraphs? I mean... I think when you're talking that much, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Ah! No, I think, like... I mean, it's not written down what you say. Imagine if you had to write everything down that you said. Like, everything you did was scripted. So you had to get up before you could speak to your wife or whatever. You had to write it down. And so...
Starting point is 00:02:51 And then all your conversations throughout the day, you'd sort of type it out first and you think about what you want to say, and it's all typed out. And then you've got to learn it. And then you do it. And if you go off script, the other person can tell them, they go,
Starting point is 00:03:07 you didn't write that down, did you? It'd be great, though, because you could get people to revise your script before you're talking like speech writers. You know, that way inclined, you could get people to make you sound a lot cleverer. That's right. You could, before you start talking,
Starting point is 00:03:24 just show whoever you're talking to, show them your script that you've written. And then they look at it and they go, oh, no, is that what you're going to talk about? I wouldn't say it like that. Yeah, and then you say, you go, hang on, how come you're talking? But have you written this down what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:03:42 And then he hands you a bit of paper and that's what he's written on it. Oh, you're not going to say that, are you? So he knew that your stuff was going to be crap. I mean, look. So let's pull it all back. Let's pull it all back to what I was going to say. Searching for things, searching for little things.
Starting point is 00:03:59 This week is the Fairy Special. Are you Fairy Special? Yes. Then listen to this Fairy Special. So this is the second in a group of shows we're going to do that sort of hone in on one cryptid. And this week we've gone with Fairy Folk, which is actually, as you'll see as we discuss them further
Starting point is 00:04:20 in the show, a huge world that isn't as tiny as you may think. Yeah, it encapsulates a lot of different beings from Fairyland. But listen, that's all coming up. It sounds like you're going to go, well, there's Hansel and Gretel, there is. Well, I'm just looking at what I've scripted.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Have you gone off script again? I have. And if you do go off script, you've got to write it in. So I'm going to have to just write a lot of what I just said in now. Hang on. You guys take over. Well, here's something weird. Buttons, you just said Hansel and Gretel,
Starting point is 00:05:05 and it's just occurred to me that that's a fairy tale, but there's no fairies in that tale. And I just realised, I don't know why we call them fairy tales. I have no idea. I know why. Oh. And we'll be getting to that later on in the show. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Yeah. So remember that question, and I'll sort of, I'll bring it up. Re-ask it. If you could re-ask that question a little bit later and pretend you didn't script that question and script it again a little bit later on. Before we hone in on Fairy Folk,
Starting point is 00:05:38 let's kick off with our normal routine, which of course is... Weekly World Weird News. It's crazy. Freaky. Watch out. Okay. Well, this week, we're just going to cover two news stories,
Starting point is 00:05:51 and they're both cryptid-related. The first is there's a mystery kangaroo spotted in Austria. Did you guys read about this? Certainly not. Yeah. Well, I saw it in the news. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's gone viral. It's everywhere. BBC picked it up, so you know it's real. It's usually in Australia. Now, close, but no cigar. Austria. Oh, no. I wonder whether...
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah, I wonder whether the kangaroo... I like to think maybe it was either backpacking or working in a pub in the UK. Got drunk and, you know, realised his two-year working visa had run out, and someone said, you got to better get back home, mate. And so, and he's sort of got on a train
Starting point is 00:06:38 because he's an Aussie. He's not too sure how to get home. I thought he'd go, you know, via Europe, which you can, obviously, from King's Cross, ends up over there, and he starts talking, oh, where's Australia? And next thing he knows, someone's pointed to Austria. They can't understand his accent.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And he's hopping around Austria. Well, you're not too far away from the truth because there is legit stories of people who have hopped on a plane, turned up in Austria in the middle of the snow and had nothing but board shorts and t-shirts and flip-flops, expecting to have gone to Australia where it's hot and warm.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And one story was actually covered in the news where a young guy actually had to then call his parents and get his parents to wire him money and explain to them how he had accidentally bought a ticket to the wrong country. What a terrible phone conversation to have with your dad. Hang on. Just because that happened, that doesn't confirm Reese's theory
Starting point is 00:07:40 about the kangaroo coming back exactly. I thought so. I thought that was, you know, I thought it legitimised it. That's not, no, no, this is probably true because I know this guy who... But look, isn't it great that there are that many stupid people in the world that that kind of stuff happens?
Starting point is 00:08:00 There's a little video of the kangaroo in question jumping around in a paddock. So you can see it here, right? Here's the video. There it is. There it goes. Amazing. Wow. So that's definitely a kangaroo.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's only a small one, as you can see. This is an interesting point that it's small because I was wondering what size it would be because in New Zealand, I found out that they actually have wallabies. And wallabies are effectively a little small rodent of a kangaroo who has exactly the same...
Starting point is 00:08:36 Are they part of the same family? They must be. Yeah, absolutely. They're the small ones. Yeah, but they're a lot smaller. And I only found this out because many years ago, I was riding my mountain bike through the forest in the middle of New Zealand and I came around the corner
Starting point is 00:08:52 and there's this little kangaroo jumping in front of me. And I had no idea that these creatures were in New Zealand. I all of a sudden had thought I had found a cryptid and I got very excited and I started whooping and hollering and yelling at other mountain bikers and they pulled up and said, yeah, it's a wallaby idiot.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And then kept riding on. And so it could well be, is it a wallaby or is it a kangaroo? Yeah, it looks wallaby-ish to me. No, well they say it's an actual kangaroo. They say it could be a Bennett kangaroo which can withstand cool temperatures well. And that's someone from the
Starting point is 00:09:28 Schmidding Zoo. So the theory is that it escaped from a zoo either in Austria or perhaps even Germany and has crossed the border. That's not the first time that's happened. Apparently in 2015, local media reported
Starting point is 00:09:44 sightings of the exact thing and escaped pet from Germany which had and you can see here this one on a soccer field as well. Are they breeding now then? Are they actually breeding
Starting point is 00:10:00 and is there a population of them there now? No, no, no, no. This is just two single instances. 2015 and 2018 could be the same one. The return of the kangaroo. There was another one in 2016 actually.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh, news Justin, is it? Yeah, Justin from two years ago. Possibly a pet called Paul who escaped. Ah, Paul the kangaroo. And the 2015 one was called Anton. Anton, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But see, this is my question. How do we know that there's not a population of them? They're presuming it's just one off. But there could be a population of them. How would they know? It's possible, yeah. You never know. When Europeans first saw kangaroos,
Starting point is 00:10:48 they thought they had two heads because they'd see the Joey coming out of the pouch and assumed that that was a sort of second mini head that belonged to the kangaroo. Oh, yes. I love that. I love that. So cool. Now, here's the weird part
Starting point is 00:11:04 that I didn't bring up. Whilst a kangaroo has been spotted in Austria, you're never going to guess what's happened in Australia. There's a Nazi who's been spotted. Well done, Dan. That is the joke I was going for.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But I wasn't going to bring up a Nazi because, first of all, well, first of all, that was... Nazi Germany was a long time ago. Now, we need to move on from that. I'm Austrian, so I could say that.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Oh, you are? You're part Austrian? Yeah, Schreiber. My grandfather's Austrian. Oh, of course. Was he... He wasn't a... No. He wasn't... No. I'm probably going to just... Actually, funny story.
Starting point is 00:11:58 No, I mean, a kangaroo. He wasn't a kangaroo. What did you think I was going to say? I mean, he wasn't... God. I think we need a new segment called Shribes Gets Away With It Again. And whatever we're talking about,
Starting point is 00:12:14 he'll pop in a little Nazi bit and I'll start going, hey, come on now. And then he'll go, come on. I'm from Austria. And... And my grandfather was a... Anyway...
Starting point is 00:12:30 And in the little tune... Shribes does it. Shribes gets away with it again. Shribes! No, Nazis were hurt in this recording. So, let's move on to the next cryptid sighting. A mystery sea serpent
Starting point is 00:12:48 filmed in Tynemith, in the UK. Have you guys caught up with this one? No. No, no, I haven't. I do everything. What are you guys actually... What have you been doing? I've been reading about fairies like I thought we had to. Oh, that's right. Good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Forgot about that. And we're going to get to that very soon. I know there's a few big fairy fans who are just on the edge of their seats. All right, well, who cares about sea monsters? When are we going to talk about the fairies? Get to the fairies already, bloody hell! Let me just briefly update you guys
Starting point is 00:13:24 on this mystery sea creature scene. In a river in the UK in Tynemith, there's a little video here. I'm going to do another... I'll do another share screen. He's going to do another share screen. Wish money money.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yes. Who is? Reese. What's he doing in here in the headquarters? He's going to do a share screen, for sure. Okay, James. Oh, look, I've spent
Starting point is 00:13:56 so much time on that, but I can't work out how to do this share screen. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Oh, wow, that's really good. It's pretty good. Kevin Burton gets the credit. Wow. That's the guy's name.
Starting point is 00:14:12 What do you reckon that is? Is that an or... It looks like an or fish. Or an eel, but wait till you see. It's a weird shape and he eventually zooms out so you get to see the scale of it
Starting point is 00:14:28 and it looks like it's about six foot long. Some people have thought that it's just a bit of something, you know, a driftwood or not so much wood, but a bit of just something. See, look at it move there. Look at that. See?
Starting point is 00:14:44 No, it's not driftwood because it's moving and it's snaking. It is doing a slow serpentine movement, but there it is again and you can see it almost looks long and flat
Starting point is 00:15:00 in a vertical way. And you can see from when he zoomed out there that it's of a decent size. And he was apparently just having a cup of coffee and just filming that. Now, here's my question. Why not get up
Starting point is 00:15:16 at this point and go down? You can see how he just needs about 10 meters away, even scale that fence and get in the water and pick the goddamn thing up. If that's the ultimate moment of someone capturing something on and the guy decides in all
Starting point is 00:15:32 the wisdom to zoom out. I tell you what, people probably need to see this from a distance. I've got what I've done, my problem here is I've gone in too close. You've got too much detail. Yes, you should zoom out. It's Miss Money Penny.
Starting point is 00:15:52 What's she doing there? I forgot I was in Miss Money Penny's office. So, you've come here to show me that, have you? Yes. Why? Well, I'm hoping I can be a secret agent. Yes, well, I met him at the pub when I said to him,
Starting point is 00:16:08 look, calm down to Money Penny's. And so, can you do a screen share? And I was like, yeah, I can do, yeah, absolutely, on zoom. And so I said, well, bring your computer. Bring that down to Miss Money Penny's office and do a screen share with her and see what
Starting point is 00:16:24 she thinks. Sorry? She what she thinks. Sorry? She, she what she thinks. No, I'm not following that. All right, this is him. Oh, god, it's him. Look, it's him. Who's that guy?
Starting point is 00:16:42 It's me, Reese. Oh, great. Come through. Great. I'm in. Yep, you're in. You're on the next level. Oh, I don't know about us. What?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Are you saying, James? I don't know. I don't know. She's, oh, I got you. I took my, I took my teeth up today this morning and I haven't put them back in. Oh, god.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And that's why they're, that's why he's retiring. Is it? Yeah, they're looking for a new bond. How much would you pay, Reese, if you put a monetary value on it, to become a 008 or whatever it
Starting point is 00:17:30 would be, like to become a James Bond? Yeah. Well, here's, here's, here's my question for you. You're saying, let me get this straight, that I would have to pay money to be cast as James Bond. No, no, I can't. I'm a professional actor. I've done huge movies
Starting point is 00:17:46 and you're saying how much would you pay to be cast? That's the only way I'm going to be Bond? No way. It's just, I know a few producers, few film producers and they've told me that if, if you give them a little bit of money and
Starting point is 00:18:02 mate, you, sometimes I think you're away with the fairies. Oh, hello. Nice transition saved me from my own fate. That's exactly right. So now fairies.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Now how this is going to work, we're going to do a little bit of history. What, what fairies are, what, what are you thinking of them? Dan's got some facts, Buttons has got some eye witness accounts of people who have seen and little people. And by the way, when we talk about fairy folk,
Starting point is 00:18:34 we're also sort of expanding that out to anything mythical of a, of a small nature that has been around on this planet since millennia. Is that, is that a, is that something people say? In the territory, yeah. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And, and then I've got some, what I'm calling fairy fairies, which I thought was quite clever. Imagine saying that in a hurry. I can not only imagine it, I can do it. Watch, fairy fairies, fairy fairies. Yeah, it's not, it's not that hard.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah. And then we're going to end, of course, on, on another poem, another cryptid poem, which I've written. That's exciting. These poems, that was the best bit of the last show. Yeah. To be honest with you, I'm tempted to just skip to the poem now. But if we want to do a bit of this hoo-ha,
Starting point is 00:19:24 we might as well, might as well give it a whirl. For the first time, I've actually done some research and prepared, and you want to skip straight to the poem. I will say one more thing before we dive into, into fairies, and that's some unfortunate news, but this week
Starting point is 00:19:40 Derby's Disclosures has been pulled. What? What? Yeah. I actually, I've had to cut the segment. I actually got a letter from an unknown source. Let me, I'll read the letter. Yeah. Oh, no. I've got it here. This is a real problem, because when I say
Starting point is 00:19:56 I had researched, what I meant to say was I was going to research whilst you were doing Derby's Disclosures. So, this is a real problem for me. Oh, that is classic buttons. Oh, no. It spends eight hours getting the technical sides of things wrong, and then
Starting point is 00:20:14 when we start the show he then does his research. You know, there's other podcasts in the world that are completely prepared. You know, I've listened to a few and they're, they're scripted. They've got people who are, you know, sort of... Professional?
Starting point is 00:20:32 Professional? I can't even say the word. I can't even come up with it. It's not even in my realm. But I think, I think you'll agree this is way more fun. Now, here's this letter. Now, let's imagine getting this in the mail. This is, I just, I've got it here.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I'll show you. Oh, it's an actual letter. A real letter. I'll read it. Dear Mr Derby, it's no name available here. You may have seen me following you around lately. It's not because I'm a fan,
Starting point is 00:21:04 although I am. I particularly like your latest work on TBS's Wrecked Tuesday nights, 10, 9 central. He's given a few details there. However, I regret to inform you that
Starting point is 00:21:22 your must-see segment, I don't know why he's put that in there, which by the way is excellent. Oh, he's fully into it. Derby's disclosures must be taken off air as soon as possible. Your life, and more importantly,
Starting point is 00:21:40 your career, is at stake. What? He's put here. More to follow. I love how your career is more important than your life. Look, I'm just reading what it's written here. He says, he ends with more to follow. See you tonight.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Oh, what? So that's where he ends it. Who's that? Who do you think? I don't know. Apparently, he's been following me around and he's got a little... Oh, he's put a stamp here. MIB.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Men in Blacks. He'd be the guy that ran into me at that Alien Con. The thing that concerns me, though, is if you're so prepared to become a double O, which is a spy, which there's somebody spying on you and you don't even know. Surely this is something...
Starting point is 00:22:28 How much would you pay to be one? Because, clearly, your skills are lacking. Look, somebody's writing you a letter and following you everywhere. Yeah. Look, for a start, you're asking me to become the world's most famous spy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:44 OK. So I think receiving the odd letter from someone is not really going to bear the truth. We're talking about James Bond here, who can't leave the house without people going, Morning Bond. Hello, James. Shaking not stirred, mate?
Starting point is 00:23:00 No, I'm not having a drink just yet. And you'll notice from that sketch, it was my voice as Bond, which is... I wasn't told no teeth. Yes, well, I wasn't... I wasn't asked to be on that sketch. LAUGHTER Can you get out of my house, please?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yes, actually, I was just passing on a message from Mr Money Bunny. Yes, what does she want? She liked the screen share and she's sorry she had to go. OK, fine, thank you. I was actually taken through to Im's office if you remember what was happening.
Starting point is 00:23:38 What... Why did she have to go? No, she's on lunch. She's on lunch. Well, that's great. I'm glad she's gone to have some lunch. Can you leave my house? Yes, sorry. Sorry, good to see you again, sir. LAUGHTER
Starting point is 00:23:54 God, bloody, he's following me. Maybe he wrote the letter. Did I think he... LAUGHTER Now, Ferries. Ferries. Oh, my God, we got here at last. Oh, God. It's just a couple of minutes
Starting point is 00:24:14 and then I've got to get on to this poem. It's just a couple of minutes. Oh, for goodness' sake. So when we decided to do Ferries, we're basically for the poetry because you had a really good word that rhymed with Ferries. LAUGHTER
Starting point is 00:24:30 I know which one we should do next week. Yeah. Yeah, and by the way, we won't be doing Bigfoot because I couldn't think of any rhymes. LAUGHTER So don't... You listeners, don't get upset. Don't expect it. Think of cryptids that are easy to rhyme with
Starting point is 00:24:48 and then we'll probably talk about them. Hmm. Trooper cover, no show. Absolutely no... No shafts. Sasquatch, though. Sasquatch, easy. Yeti. Yeti, easy. Yeti's, yeah. I think we should do Yeti next.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It's like, I just want to know how you're going to link the Yeti to spaghetti, though. How's that? He's holding their breath. LAUGHTER OK, so, Rhys, if we're going to start with Ferries,
Starting point is 00:25:20 I think it's only fair that you start in explaining exactly what Ferries are. Well, it's a big question, isn't it? I mean, most people, when they think of Ferries, they think of Tinkerbell these days. They think of a little... a little pixie thing with wings that flies around.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And of course, you remember back to that very famous photograph, which I think turned out to be a hoax. I'm not sure of the Ferries that were found in the back of someone's garden. Yeah. Remember that? I think the photo, do you know, Dan, the date of that?
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah, yeah. They were called the Kottingly Ferries. And they were found by two girls. One was 16 years and one was 9. And that was taken in 1917. And they were little... amazing photos to see online.
Starting point is 00:26:09 They're black and white, obviously, in 1917. They had a couple of days of photos. And it's two girls in a garden with little Ferries around them. And at the time, very convincing to a lot of people, including Arthur Conan Doyle, author of Sherlock Holmes,
Starting point is 00:26:25 who was completely... completely that they were real. And unfortunately, they were proved to be hoax. In fact, the two girls were, I think, almost ready to admit that it was a hoax immediately, to admit it, because once
Starting point is 00:26:41 Conan Doyle had said he believed in it, they thought, oh, God. We're going to make him sound like a complete mental. Now, I wonder, as a side, did he lose any credibility after... Or maybe in his lifetime,
Starting point is 00:26:57 the hoax was not... When did you say the hoax came out on that? I think he passed away by the time they admitted to it. I think people knew it was a hoax at the time, but he was very much into spiritualism and the afterlife. And an outspoken person for clairvoyance, and his wife
Starting point is 00:27:13 believed in that as well. So he was very much part of the mystic world. And so if it did damage his reputation, I don't think it bothered him, because at that time, mysticism was a bit bigger as well, wasn't it? You weren't seen as mad. You were almost seen as mad
Starting point is 00:27:29 for being the skeptic. Oh, absolutely. I mean, yeah, mysticism, the afterlife, being able to talk to spirits, that was the new rock and roll while he was alive. It was a big deal. And I was just thinking
Starting point is 00:27:45 why we're talking about that, that he won't necessarily be turning in his grave with the idea of the new animated movie Sherlock Gnomes. Because you think, you know, maybe he would, but what have they done with my books now?
Starting point is 00:28:03 But but because he's actually into these kind of things, you'll probably go, oh, about time, about time. I was actually going to write that. He'd be like, dammit, I missed a trick. Yeah, absolutely. That's what I should have been doing. So cool. So just getting back
Starting point is 00:28:19 on track, you know, this folklore on fairies seems to have been around forever. One might even argue that they are the original cryptid. Because, you know, it's really, we're looking round about
Starting point is 00:28:35 right back to the Middle Ages and even perhaps even earlier. And back then, of course, they weren't necessarily just the little tiny things we're talking about now. In fact, they are the same size as humans. And even
Starting point is 00:28:51 bigger, even bigger back in those days, well, these are this is what they've derived from. And if you think of elves, okay, because elves derive from the fairy folk. Elves, really, really Tolkien is responsible for kind
Starting point is 00:29:07 of helping that idea of making them bigger, creating the elves, the elf people. In fact, from Elfland, if you do a bit of research, you'll find Elfland and Fairyland is often the same thing. Really, what it is, is it's
Starting point is 00:29:23 mythical or mystical, I should say, beings who live in a parallel universe. That's really what fairies are all about. They live in another world, but can crossover into our world. They're in the same vein as also brownies,
Starting point is 00:29:39 have you heard of brownies? They're kind of like an uglier, hairier version, they're like a household spirit. And they're thought to be shape-shifting and interdimensional. And it's the same with fairy folk, and that's why
Starting point is 00:29:55 we're branching out even to gnomes. It's really the whole little people realm. And if we think fairies as cryptids, then we see them as a race of hidden people. And this is another idea going back
Starting point is 00:30:11 to the 15th century, where fairy folk were actual humanoids living in the forest that were perhaps an offshoot of humans. So if you go into the forest, don't go in there, you'll be taken
Starting point is 00:30:27 by the fairy folk, these mystical people who will capture you. And probably the fairies are probably sitting there saying, don't go out into the open, because the humans will get you, those scary human things. Yeah, and they have round ears. So don't go The scary round ears.
Starting point is 00:30:45 The scary round ears, and they're not as pretty as ours. So that's our thing with fairies, they're always depicted as quite beautiful. And when you look at the elves, that's the same thing with their very, very beautiful faces, large eyes, which helps with
Starting point is 00:31:01 their alluring quality. So if you get caught up with these elf and folk and get drawn into their world because you're attracted to them and if they say, come, come here, come and have a look at what I've got. And you'd probably go, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:31:17 And then you'd be gone. Be hard not to. Anyway, I felt like I've spoken too much. Buttons, what have you got? Well, the thing that I found about fairies is that it's really quite important to, you know, sort of know that there is these
Starting point is 00:31:33 two different levels of good and evil going on between them. And then going on to all of these other fairy tale creatures, if you like. There's actually a lot of dark and evilness to them. A lot of the eyewitnesses that I've been looking up, particularly in
Starting point is 00:31:49 around gnomes, have some terrifying, almost kind of ghost story type elements to them. Really? Yeah. I have actually found an eyewitness account of a couple of fairies that's on YouTube. And I thought maybe we could kick off with that.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So I'll just, if you could just get Miss Moneypenny back in the room, because I just need to share the screen. Well, I'm at my place now. I could kind of get hold of her. I mean, she's at lunch. I mean, I could get, I guess I could get old Bond to come back.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Could you? No. I'd prefer he didn't come back, actually, if that's all right. Do you watch me? Where were you? Just outside the door. I told you to leave that. Well, you've just been literally outside this door?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Yes. She said I had to go away. Well, that's weird. We were sort of waiting to come in, were you? Yes, just in case you needed me again. All right. Well, now that you're here, can you go? We're interested, Buttons wants to talk to Miss Moneypenny.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yes, I will. She's on lunch. Yeah, I know that. Could you grab her and bring her back here before she's got a shoot back to work? Yes. Good. Well, off you go. Thank you. Well, I shall get Miss Moneypenny. Thank you. Right, well, he's gone to get her.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Thank God he's gone. Does he scare you? He scares the shit out of me. Old Bond. You don't like old Bond? No. Yes, hello. Oh, God, he's back.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Sorry, no, we're just talking about you. Oh, yes, you didn't want to shoot me again? No. Now you go and get Miss Moneypenny. Yes. Yeah, good. God, he hangs around that door. I'm kind of concerned. He's the guy that's supposed to be saving
Starting point is 00:33:41 the world from the evil geniuses with nuclear bombs. He can't even get the secretary from lunch. Yeah, but he's very old now. He needs a daughtery. That's why he's retiring. That's why they're looking for a new Bond,
Starting point is 00:33:57 which I have had a meeting about, which I'll discuss later. How much did that cost you for the meeting? You're kidding me. OK. OK. OK. This is a very encounter
Starting point is 00:34:13 that happened in Perthshire, which is in Scotland. And so, this is a gentleman that had had, well, I'll let him say it in his own words. Oh, what have you got there? Oh, great. Another eyewitness account.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Account. Account. Account. It was 4 or 5 o'clock in the evening. It started getting kind of remarkable. And then out of this blue sky, I kind of whispered loud, came across and
Starting point is 00:34:45 it gaws like, I think, would describe it. You could easily see through it, but it kind of just kind of sort of drifted in. And so I was watching that thinking, yes, that's nice. I enjoyed the scenery. And then a very
Starting point is 00:35:01 small amount of dew vapor sort of came down from that. You know, you could just do that sort of tiny drops. There was some behind me, Shahalyan before me. It cast a rainbow sort of right over Shahalyan. It was like, yes. It was wonderful. It was, um,
Starting point is 00:35:17 there was a stream between me and the mountain. And then I was kind of tinkling away. And I started to hear it as music as, you know, I suppose what you'd term as fairy music or kind of Irish harp music or sort of some Scottish music
Starting point is 00:35:33 or some kind of sort of stuff. And on the edge of my vision, there kind of caught a movement with my eye, looked down, and there's this, um, small guy, a wee fellow, I suppose you'd call him,
Starting point is 00:35:49 be about four-four high, but what it's about is is rolling my shadow up. It's at my head. It's about halfway down the head. It's just like rolling away at the at my head. And then kind of lower down, I saw it, he kind of looked at me.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And then, you know, his eyes dropped. My shadow's quite long, 40 yards or whatever. But, you know, I could perceive that his, he kind of looked down at my feet. And I looked down to my feet, and there was this female counterpart a pair of silver shears, what do you call them, scissors really?
Starting point is 00:36:21 Sort of like sheep shears or something, old fashioned things. Like my tongue. My sensation was, you know, like, what's going on here? This is outrageous. And then, you know, I just sort of went, Oi! You know, it's...
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah, it's just like that. Oi. And he looked at her, and she looked at him, and puff, you know, they'd gone. They'd just gone. Do you remember what they looked like, to have a detail?
Starting point is 00:36:53 There was some facial hair. There wasn't being close, and I could see the facial hair on her, and it was substantial, if you like, but not what you'd call bearded. Felt like, you know, like, you know, I'm a builder, my hands get dirty with these fingernails,
Starting point is 00:37:09 but, you know, they were seriously, seriously in bad shape, could do with a wash. The clothes were all made of leather of some kind, kind of like chamois leather, with small hats, tied around the middle, with some kind of fabric underneath it,
Starting point is 00:37:25 and equally manky. I've many times tried to recreate, you know, the kind of feeling, I've wondered through the holes, you know, in a laxityzical fashion, waiting for something like this to happen again, but nothing, yeah, drawn up blank every time.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I've seen rainbows, you know, I've heard streams, but I've never heard, you know, like that music. I've never seen a cloud appear in the sky from nowhere, and then produce a rainbow to entrance me. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:57 So just to clarify, I mean, my connection wasn't great, but did he say that they, two of them appeared, one from across the way, and then a female counterpart down by his feet, and she had some scissors,
Starting point is 00:38:13 and was trying to cut out a shadow or something? So the male gnome was at his head, rolling up his shadow, and then there was the little female gnome down by his feet,
Starting point is 00:38:29 starting to cut out the feet, like they were cutting out his shadow. It was almost like Peter Pan-esque, you know, they're trying to steal the shadow. And the thing is, this is actually from a documentary, that's an excerpt from a documentary called The Fairy Faith,
Starting point is 00:38:45 which is a little short documentary. It's really good though, because it has these people like that, that you look at him, and he looks like a totally credible guy, he doesn't look like he would be on hallucinogenic drugs, and he's just going for a walk in the Highlands,
Starting point is 00:39:01 and he's had this experience. And apart from the fact that he sounds like he should be mates with your mate Bond. Old Bond? Old Bond, incredibly credible and legit experience.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And there's actually a society called The Fairy Investigation Society, and they've been around since basically about 1912, and have amounted 450 odd fairy encounters over the years. So there is still
Starting point is 00:39:33 lots and lots of, like, fairy gnome type encounters. They're still happening today. But notably, a lot of them are happening in America. Really? Yeah, particularly gnomes. And there's some really
Starting point is 00:39:49 spooky encounters in and around barn houses on farms. And it's quite a common thing. There's one example of a farm that had some people move into, and around 2004
Starting point is 00:40:05 a family moved into a farm. All of the animals just wouldn't go near this barn. And they would give it a wide birth when they're walking near it. If they tried to take an animal into a barn, it would be, you know, rearing up and freaking out. And then after a little while
Starting point is 00:40:21 the occupants saw this little gnome, this really ugly little gnome with a really sort of jaggedy teeth, brown smile and deep, sunk eyes and was just sitting in the air laughing. And they saw this gnome multiple times, terrorizing them.
Starting point is 00:40:37 After a while they moved out of that house. And very much like all of these great ghost stories another family moved in in 2010. And without knowing any of the previous stories of that family they had started having
Starting point is 00:40:53 exactly the same experiences. They put in a fish pond, they would sort of see this little gnome there giggling away at the side of the pond and eating the koi fish straight out of the pond. And even going around and messing with they had actual garden gnomes in their garden
Starting point is 00:41:09 and they would see it over by the other gnomes sort of mucking around with them and smashing them and what have you. So like these are as recent as 2010 in America. So the eyewitnesses are still happening. It's amazing. I just didn't
Starting point is 00:41:25 factor in that globally that would still be a big thing fairy sightings just. It's amazing that that's so prominent in their societies looking for them and it's very cool. Yeah and of course
Starting point is 00:41:41 back in the day like I said earlier the fairy folk were sort of encapsulated as the other. So you've got to get hard to get that kind of tinkerbell image out of your head but if you disregard Disney whatsoever
Starting point is 00:41:57 and even with gnomes I mean what made them less evil? How could they what did popular culture do? They put little funny hats on them you know and even gave them miniature fishing rods
Starting point is 00:42:13 to you know to make them more fun. But the reality is and like this chap here from this eyewitness account is that you know if these things are real and they can transcend dimensions
Starting point is 00:42:29 then like any species there's got to be good and evil and if some bad ones there's a guarantee that some bad ones are going to come through at some point and steal the fish from your pond. That's probably where the fishing rod thing came in. I bet that's part
Starting point is 00:42:45 of the folklore is that they do love eating our fish. And they say it's interesting there was a study done in 2014 on fairy sightings and
Starting point is 00:43:01 they said that there seems to be a trend more recently that alleged fairy sightings are getting nastier, more sinister and ominous as time goes by with reports of small but aggressive fairies, tree monsters and grumpy gnomes dressed as
Starting point is 00:43:17 Oxford scholars. You know I mean when was this published? 2014 I was going to say because they did film the Harry Potter movies in Oxford largely some of the
Starting point is 00:43:37 some of the names outside the trailers I wonder more I'm hearing about fairies and thinking about Tinkerbell in Peter Pan I do actually wonder which way round it is
Starting point is 00:43:53 did J.M. Barry in Disney do a lot of research that is actually incorporated because if this guy is saying that he saw two fairies trying to cut a shadow off has he been influenced by Peter Pan or is it the other way round? Is that a thing that fairies do?
Starting point is 00:44:09 Do you remember in the movie Hook there's a moment where Tinkerbell wants to kiss Peter Pan Robin Williams and she's able to grow herself in an instant and it takes a lot out of her but she manages to sort of break
Starting point is 00:44:25 into whatever she needs to do so I wonder if that's actually an incredibly well researched story or is it people feeding off there I don't know. It's definitely that way around I think intense research
Starting point is 00:44:41 is done and it's also folklore but particularly when you are creating anything fantasy you need to you sort of you deal with with historical facts and myths because
Starting point is 00:44:57 that's the base of the character that's where and so yeah the cutting out of shadows and also the shape-shifting which is what I mentioned earlier is what these mystical creatures who come from another realm are supposed to be capable of doing
Starting point is 00:45:13 Hey a little movie nugget just while we're talking about hook so the screenplay was written by someone but the script specifically the dialogue for Tinkerbell was written by someone else do you know who wrote it
Starting point is 00:45:29 no it was Carrie Fisher Princess Leia yeah she was a script doctor outside of being an actor and an author she used to go and rewrite scripts and she was brought in specifically to do Tinkerbell and hook Wow that is awesome
Starting point is 00:45:45 it's nugget all you needed to do there if you could have just dropped a Nazi in their shrubs then then we could have done your little sting just got away with it again shrubs I do also
Starting point is 00:46:03 have a couple of fairy facts my favorite I've discovered I quickly get to that before the poem yeah okay I've got two favorite fairy facts here's number one between 1658 and 1663 there were four deaths that were
Starting point is 00:46:19 registered in Cumbria in England and those four deaths that were registered in the record read as frightened to death by fairies what you're kidding me officially there were four casualties written down in a book
Starting point is 00:46:35 in the parish of Lample a lamploo in Cumbria wow fairies I was just going to say that ties in nicely with the idea that seems to be almost more evil intent from the fairy world
Starting point is 00:46:51 than a positive nature you know what I mean so these people were scared to death by them at the same time we don't necessarily know they might have been nice fairies going hey how's it going but the shock of seeing them
Starting point is 00:47:07 frightened to death also yeah they might be evil well actually now come to think of it maybe the tooth fairy all along you're not supposed to be leaving the tooth that have fallen out under your pillow maybe the tooth fairy is actually something that came and just ripped teeth out of your mouth
Starting point is 00:47:23 at night time maybe we got this all wrong thanks very much Stephen King you know children listen to this sorry sorry no that's not true that wouldn't happen at all
Starting point is 00:47:41 fact number two fact number two is that do you guys know the dog Corgis you know how like the Queen of England used to have her Corgis it is said that in Wales
Starting point is 00:47:57 the same way that we would ride horses into battle fairies used to ride Corgis into battle oh wow cute that is a very cute image well I mean and it's a very tied in image to the possibility that there's a
Starting point is 00:48:13 the myth of it is sort of it's not someone just saying oh wouldn't that be interesting if this was the case the word itself Corgi is G which is dog in Welsh and Cor is dwarf so it translates as dog of the dwarves
Starting point is 00:48:29 there you go the story is that there were two tribes of fairies who were going into a big battle the twiwith tag and the guillian and it resulted in the death of the twiwith tag so two children
Starting point is 00:48:45 who were walking through the woods in Wales happened upon a tie with tag funeral procession that was going on and the gifted the little surviving tie with twang gifted these Corgis that were no longer needed by their warriors
Starting point is 00:49:01 to these two children and yeah and the markings on a Corgi they say if you look at the pattern on the side of a Corgi it's in the same shape of what a saddle would look like because that's how the saddle used to sit on them which the fairies used to
Starting point is 00:49:17 ride them on into battle this is fascinating and isn't it great that it seems to be obvious now that why the queen has Corgis because they were a gift from the fairy folk and when you think about Corgis
Starting point is 00:49:33 there's not many other people who have Corgis no they're not the obvious dog to go for but also they're actually really quite an aggressively dog I mean they well they're a battle horse for fairies yeah my sister had
Starting point is 00:49:49 her lip chewed through by a Corgi when she was a little kid they just jumped up and bit her through the lip it was like you know like cute cute angry bite how old was she you know 11 or something oh she's quite tiny
Starting point is 00:50:05 was she into fairies did she have a fairy vibe because a lot of young girls do and those battle Corgis they're just harking back to the day of running through the forest and
Starting point is 00:50:21 attacking that's quite possible that is quite possible see how everything's linked guys well we can see that now alright well just a couple of last sort of fairy theories and ideas first of all
Starting point is 00:50:37 I'll say that fairy folk little people any of that nature are more likely to be found at either dawn or dusk did you know that and usually around sacred places
Starting point is 00:50:53 and dawn and dusk is the time when the dimensions converge if you ever want to travel to another dimension you're more likely to find the entrance way at dusk or dawn
Starting point is 00:51:09 the bridge between worlds is accessible at that time I've never heard that before okay so that's just news Justin what's that from is that your theory well no that's
Starting point is 00:51:25 written down in the ethos in the internet and stuff and the other thing I'll say is and this is more of my theory is that we hark back now and I've been saying get that image out of your mind
Starting point is 00:51:41 but if we go to tinkerbell again we've started with tinkerbell so let's end on her also have you heard of willow the wisp yeah little lights so that's a similar sort of thing isn't it when you think of tinkerbell willow the wisp
Starting point is 00:51:57 ghost lights they call them in america jack o lantern type lights in ireland but without going too much into that you can actually also think about orbs can't you you think about orbs
Starting point is 00:52:13 very similar kind of thing all related and then when you think about orbs you think of crop circles because they're done by tiny lights by tiny orbs and basically what I'm trying to say is it's aliens
Starting point is 00:52:29 wow you got there you got the aliens wow have you just received another letter another letter's coming oh no it's another letter from dear mr. darby
Starting point is 00:52:45 available here again just heard what you said and if I was you I'd make a run for it oh that's and he's just delivered that see you tonight he says at the bottom how did he get past bond
Starting point is 00:53:01 yeah that's what he gets past bond bond old bond isn't he he hasn't shown up again hello anyone there old bond does you die it's right in front of your face he's your guy following you around
Starting point is 00:53:17 I've been saying this since the start you think it's old bond hello old bond yes what's going down are you writing these letters to me no oh yeah
Starting point is 00:53:33 let's have a look at the handwriting oh no I haven't got handwriting that good your voice is changing too you've gone weird yes my teeth are coming out I've got to go to the dentist no listen I've got mish money printing here for you oh okay good
Starting point is 00:53:51 hello hello mace I'm just having lunch I've got a couple of minutes good here's your receipt your receipt don't talk about that remember you paid me to get an interview
Starting point is 00:54:07 to be bond air here get out sorry mish money you weren't supposed to reveal that information he paid $900,000 to have an interview get out both of you
Starting point is 00:54:25 oh god it's okay did you my picture fell off the wall oh no it's okay it's not damaged lucky okay
Starting point is 00:54:41 I better go as I say things are really happening here I've got a poem to read okay here we go one more thing before you do how do we get the word fairy tales ah because as I did
Starting point is 00:54:57 thank you Dan for remembering this well done as I did hint on this earlier that fairies is the original cryptid so when you're talking about the tales you would always
Starting point is 00:55:13 it would be called a fairy tale because it was always about the mystical or mythical creature that could usually come and take you away and that's what they were kind of stories to scare kids yeah so they were called fairy tales and then as we're going to other stories
Starting point is 00:55:31 yes exactly that makes total sense alright so here's a poem I've written I hope it's good it's going in the book I stood beside the garden deck, eyeing the flowers below when suddenly I fell away
Starting point is 00:55:49 to Elfland I did go great to see you Mr Man we've been expecting you for a while the fairy folk have been watching you ever since you were a child what is this realm I said to Plonker the tiny little elf
Starting point is 00:56:05 it's where us tiny people live beyond the garden shelf we want you pleased to be our king now that you've come of age and all the things you say and do they really are the rage listen listen Plonker I can't stay long I'm a big deal
Starting point is 00:56:23 back at home so off I went with him in hand my brand new garden no that is amazing I'm a big deal back at home now off to Elfland I've got an interview for Plon
Starting point is 00:56:47 can all of your poems from now on just get that line in there I'm a big deal back at home what I'm going to try and do is without these different cryptids usually I'm going to star in them and I'm going to meet them or whatever and then it's about me trying to get back home
Starting point is 00:57:07 because you know I'm a big deal they all want you to be the lord of their kingdom that's the loose theme that we're going to it's a great poem I can't wait for this book to come out and it's worth just saying to everyone
Starting point is 00:57:25 that we try to start the show we took about 15 minutes working technical problems and you just started writing that poem that's incredible well thank you that's it for this week that's fairies I think it was a fairy interesting
Starting point is 00:57:41 well and the truth is we only really scraped the top of the fairy issue because we didn't even talk about Reykjavik and Iceland and the fact that they've made highways around rocks that they believe have fairy communities in them
Starting point is 00:57:57 so there's so much more to go into depth on but we're going to have to do the subject again I think we've proven that there is a lot of content here I love it and there's a lot more rabbit hole to go down and I think you're right a part 2 on fairies would be great at a later date
Starting point is 00:58:13 and if anybody's seen any out there make sure you touch base with us yes that's right and hopefully I'll be back next week if I'm not the new Bond or the king of the fairies it depends how much money I've got in the bank
Starting point is 00:58:33 bye bye you

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