The Cryptid Factor - 8: #008 The Stacked Issue (With Special Guests Taika Waititi and Arj Barker)

Episode Date: May 27, 2013

('Radio station days' archive) Buttons and Rhys by themselves again - as David is off watching movies in another country. In his absence, we have an impromptu special guest Taika Waititi and UFOlogis...t special guest Arj Barker! We also talk mine hunting honey bees, Forensic lab confirms paranormal evidence and an ultraviolet ghost in a library. Also a Crytpid dating app and a Maori myth that could be proven real!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Quintet Factor, with Rhys, Derby, and David Fadriar. The Quintet Factor, with Rhys, Derby, and David Fadriar. Woo! We are back. Wow. Well, we're here, which is good. We're just here. We are listening to the podcast version of this. We went up half an hour late tonight, but you wouldn't have known that. You won't know that if you've just downloaded this off the internet. Maybe what you should do is stop now, wait half an hour, be impatient,
Starting point is 00:01:13 and then hit play, and then that's what it will feel like for the real people that are listening right now, if you're listening on the podcast. Oh, there's a podcast listeners. I thought you were talking, giving me instructions, buttons. What? So confusing. Stop right now. Those that are listening live, sorry for the delay. But let's be honest, most of you are listening to this in the future. How many people, how many people do you reckon are listening live? Put your hands up. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Well, no one I can see visually. We've got some people walking past. He put his hand up. He's listening. No, no, he's not. Some dude yelled my name out. But those of you in your cars cruising around the Ponsonby-Grayland area, and your hot rods, they doing the old roundabout, you know, impressing the ladies with your big, what do they have, stacks? What do they got? Big exhausts. Stacks, you know, they got stacks too, stacks of it.
Starting point is 00:02:14 You car folk, you cool dudes, and you young whippers at home with your parents listening in on your tranny. Of course, you're listening to the cryptid factor New Zealand and potentially the world's only cryptozoological radio show that actually is entertaining and interesting. That has humour in it. I'm sure there's others, and I don't want to start a war here. But if we have to go to war with some of you other paranormal radio shows,
Starting point is 00:02:43 and I know you're listening, you are the paranormal radio shows around the world, you know, you think you've got the biz. What does that mean? We've got the biz. No, we've got the biz. We've got the biz. We've got the business. Right here, we are the business. And we've got the news, we've got the reviews, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:04 We've got the queues. But more importantly than anything, we've got the lulls. When do they come? I can't wait for those. Lulls. Sorry. Are we in one now? Is this a lull or a lull right now? We always start with a lull, and we build up. It's called Boomtown.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You've got to walk down the path to get there. And there's a few signs, you know, and some of them spin, so you don't know whether they're facing the right way or someone's gone there before you and spun it the wrong way and tried to set you on the wrong path. And I'm always hitting down those paths, always down the wrong path. And, you know, it's a weird tangent,
Starting point is 00:03:46 but I try and make my way back to the original track, the yellow brick road that leads to Boomtown. But it's difficult. I want to live in Boomtown too. That sounds awesome. We're hidden. That's great. I can't wait to do that. The show goes. You might have noticed, Ferry is not in tonight. No, he's in Sydney. He wouldn't watch the movie in Sydney.
Starting point is 00:04:05 He's pretty out there. It goes quite far to watch a movie, doesn't he? I tell you what, they invite him and he goes. It's a great country to watch a film. It'll be here next week. He can't go to a movie now unless he goes and interviews the celebrities afterwards. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I went to go watch a movie with him a little while ago, and he just hung around afterwards, expecting to meet the stars. Yeah, and I was like, yeah. He should just interview the people coming out anyway. Just going, oh, what do you think of that? You know, boring. So we've got a stacked show today.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Keywords stacked. Just full of news. We've got a little bit of movie review to do a little bit later on here. Really exciting. I watched a movie the other day. I'll tell you about that. Lucky you. That'll be a lull, guarantee it. I just came from the airport.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I've been on Wellington filming some... which nobody really cares. And I saw I raced here from the airport. That's why we've started a bit late. Sorry about that. Of course, I didn't bring my headphones. I kind of brought a set of headphones for me, which is nice of them. And the lead on them, from the air,
Starting point is 00:05:14 down to the place where it plugs in, is all of probably about 30 centimetres long. So right now, I'm crouched down. It's not a good look for you, man. The headphones look great, but you're having to bend down very low. It almost looks like you're doing something untoward there. It's like I'm hiding.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Just beneath me. Which I think is how I've designed it. Thank you. I wondered. I've also got Arj Barker on the show, with his UFO mania. That's coming up soon. Cryptid News, Cryptid Buzz, and all the usual situations and laughter.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Before then, let's kick it to some... Weekly World Weird News. Crazy. Freaky. Watch out. Weekly World Weird News. Not your average news, but the sort of news that might make you go, really? Is it?
Starting point is 00:06:08 Oh, wow. And that sort of reaction. That's actually what I do each time. Yeah, each time you do it. I'm sure some people just go, oh, yeah. There's people that wait all week for this moment, Rhys. Or even people. Heard it.
Starting point is 00:06:24 That one's old, dude. That couple of years ago. That's not news. That's old. Have you heard this one, then? That is awesome. But the problem is, honeybees are not really an expendable commodity. They're important, anyway. You know, I'm worried about their numbers,
Starting point is 00:06:41 but here they are now hunting mines. Far out. Man, imagine the honey that would make. Anyway, well, my headline, one of my headlines, until I find another one, is, for real, I'm going to say,
Starting point is 00:06:57 until I find another one, is, forensic lab confirms paranormal evidence. Oh. Forensics. That's the real deal. We're talking CSI. This is CSI. This is DSIR.
Starting point is 00:07:13 This is all the other S's. All right, let's huck back to my one. Yeah, let's go to your one. Honeybees train to hunt mines in Croatia. Okay. Croatian researchers have been training honeybees
Starting point is 00:07:29 to hunt down their location of unexploded landmines. Amazing. Wow. More than 750 square kilometres of unclear minefields are still thought to lie within Croatia's borders. A relic of the Balkan Wars.
Starting point is 00:07:45 To tackle this problem, a professor from Zagreb University. What's what university? Zagreb. Cool. I know that one. Has come up with a novel way to find them by training bees
Starting point is 00:08:01 to use their strong sense of smell to locate the explosives buried in the ground. Did you know that bees had an extremely strong sense of smell? No. Well, of course, because they smell out flowers, right? Of course. But I didn't know
Starting point is 00:08:17 that their sense of smell was, you know, more than just for smelling nectar. And also, how far are we talking? How good is their noses? Well, it's not a common knowledge thing, is it? But how do you train a bee to smell explosives
Starting point is 00:08:33 instead of honey flowers? Well, you get this. The training method involves placing a mixture of sugar and TNT at various feeding points so that the bees learn to associate the smell of the explosive with the food. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Our basic conclusion is that the bees can clearly detect this target and we are very satisfied, said this professor, Kizik. What's his name? Kizik. Can I Kizik? Nicola Kizik. If the technique works,
Starting point is 00:09:07 then the bees could save many lives by locating unexploded devices which can then be safely disarmed. Do you know what the thing that my mind instantly goes, I mean, that's great, don't get me wrong, that's fantastic and less minds in this world the better.
Starting point is 00:09:23 But it's time to make sure you wonder what else can you mix with honey to make bees find? Exactly. Like car keys, car keys, imagine that, having little trained bees each time you lose, my wife's always losing her car keys, her purse. You can have
Starting point is 00:09:39 bees trained to find stuff around your house. Bees are amazing animals and, you know, they've now got this, this is the bee team. So they've got little tiny uniforms, they've got little helmets and they're a squadron. These guys
Starting point is 00:09:55 they've got a motto, you know, be safe. Around the minds, the hunting minds. They've got a real purpose in life, not just to produce nectar and be a slave to the queen. Which is not a bad purpose. They're serving us.
Starting point is 00:10:11 You know, not just serving us good spreads. This is, if there was like a hierarchy or like a bar, where all the bees went to afterwards. And there's all the normal honey bees, they just walk in there and their normal sweater
Starting point is 00:10:29 and their jeans and they just swan to the bar. The coolest bees in the town, that's right. Trying to chat. All the lady bees being, hey look, it's the bee team. The minds explosive, and all the honey bees, they just like Oh ladies, you guys are awesome
Starting point is 00:10:45 I love your jackets. That's all right. Hey, do you want me to sing to you? Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Kick it. Honey bees are flying today. Busy honey bees, if you love honey then you'll love honey puffs.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Love honey puffs. Honey bees are made to stay fresh, stay crisp, stay good all the time. If you're looking for the busy honey bees, honey bees are yours and mine. Thanks honey bees. It's not the song
Starting point is 00:11:23 that the bee team would sing. It is. Hey, there's Tyker. Tyker's just walking on. Doing the old fake phone call. Fake phone call. Hey, he's Tyker.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Tyker Reese is renting out his house on Oh, I'm done. Are you going to rent it? Too expensive. I know, yes. We haven't had anyone keen. It was a world famous director and writer
Starting point is 00:11:57 and actor. Tyker Waititi there. Special guest. Special guest on the show. So real estate agent. He's just revealed that I do have a house available if you want it.
Starting point is 00:12:13 But it is top end. It's not be honest. So you have to understand people. For Tyker just to walk past and not know. We're in a mall. We're effectively in a food court, in a shopping mall doing our radio station. This may be odd, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:29 But at least we get to see people like Tyker just wander on past through the food court. What brings you on town? Oh, you got the same phone as me. We've all got the same phone. We've got this giant phone. It's cool, man. It comes with a pin.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Is it a phone? Is it a phone? Is it a tablet? What apps have you got? Everything. I've got all this stuff on mine. Oh, the mirror app. Yeah, that'll be right. What do you got? Oh, the wrap app. Tyker's teaching myself how to do some wraps.
Starting point is 00:13:02 It's all good, man. Oh, it's all good. You've got this giant phone. You get a bit of flak from it. A lot of empty beer glasses in front of you, mate. So I'm down at the New Food Court down here in Ponsonby.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I'm about to try my hand at getting some Argentinian meat. Every time I've been here, they've run out of lamb. So I'm just hoping that this time I've got it. Because all I want is the meat platter. Everyone keeps talking about. I'm going to smash some shit out. I'm just getting sick of this.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Well, you heard that chorizo. What are they called? What are they called? Cisling chorizo. That's the name of the meat place. I thought it was just Meat Shack. Ponsonby Meat Shack. Open up a rival one.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Meat Street. Hey, come down to Meat Shack if that other place is packed. What do you think of the length of my head? I can't go any further than this. Resport me his headphones. I think he shorted them on purpose.
Starting point is 00:14:06 You can't see this from the comfort of your car as you're driving home and peeking out traffic. But the length of his headphone cable is literally about a foot. It's the one foot headphones. Well, we've got you here. Quick, any cryptozoological
Starting point is 00:14:22 wearing shoes. Any cryptozoological experiences or paranormal? No, it's what the show's about. Cryptozoology. What is that? Hidden animals. Do you have any experiences
Starting point is 00:14:38 with anything freaky like that? Nomes or... That's fairies. Any fairies. Any weird, unknown paranormal? You know what?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Actually, one time... Here we go. Backing music. Here we go. Meanwhile, people are taking my seat at the meat place. Eating your lamb. All the lamb's gone. Last piece.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Here we go. Here's this creepy backing music. I was talking to someone one day and then some... You guys can't see this, but someone... I felt like someone pushed my shoulder from behind. It shoved me. One of my shoulders went forward
Starting point is 00:15:27 and the person I was talking to was like... What are you doing? I turned around to see who pushed me. There's no one there. Devil's hand. Devil's hand. I don't know if it's a devil's hand or a ghost I owed money to, but it wasn't cool.
Starting point is 00:15:43 They turned around nothing there, but you've told me this before. That would have freaked you out. It stuck with me. Was there anything that you were doing prior to that, that would build up to that, a reason for it? I bummed this ghost without consent.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Oh, there you have it, folks. Tyka, a special guest, and that was great. It's good having you in the studio. How much do we owe you? Look at this. That's where they used to meet. Pizzas.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Don't pop the bubble. He's going down to the Argentinian meat shack now. Come on down and hassle me about Kickstarter or something. Give me some shit about my Samsung ad. Did you guys Samsung?
Starting point is 00:16:31 The Samsung Note 2. Hey, I saw the little video with you on the Samsung Note 2. Cool. That's awesome. That's one person. I suppose that's all over now. I pulled that out. That's gone.
Starting point is 00:16:47 No one's getting on that. Choice man, when's that movie coming out? Reese's actually got a really cool little part in a feature film that Jermaine and I have written and directed and also in. At the moment
Starting point is 00:17:03 we don't have a title for it, but our tentative title is What We Do In The Shadows. It's a documentary about vampires. About three vampires who flat in Wellington. But see vampires where?
Starting point is 00:17:19 Well, that's all cryptozoological. There's people believing vampires, werewolves, all that kind of stuff. We're really going to push the film when it does come out. It's right up our alley. So it'll be this year some stage? Yeah, or next year. 2018.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Doing it directly. Awesome. Thanks Tykes. Well done. Awesome. All the seats are gone. There's no more seats. He's lost his seat at the Argentinian
Starting point is 00:17:51 sizzling chorizo. One of the top Argentinian barbecue places in the mall. But it was lovely to see him. And that's New Zealand for you. You can get these dudes that just literally walk past you. People internationally listening to this now are probably thinking it's all planned.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But no, that's New Zealand. We literally just walk into each other. The four or five big celebrities that we have in the country are only ever a couple of hours away from knocking into each other during mill times. They do say if you
Starting point is 00:18:23 fly from Auckland to Wellington, our major city to our capital city, on a Monday morning at about 7 o'clock in the morning and you sit at the front of the plane, you'll most likely be sitting next to the prime minister. For reals, that's what they say. Do you want to have a word with the prime minister?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Just a ticket as simple as that. Oh, I've been recognised. He's moved on. I was just ordering some some yummy sushi there. Okay, it's time for
Starting point is 00:18:55 a little bit more of the of this. I can't reach the CD black as my head bone cables too short. Hang on, I'll just unplug. Fanny, you guys were here. There he goes, he's reached it. Weekly World Weird News.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Righty, okay, so my little bit of news to share with you today. Forensic scientists have proven the existence of the paranormal, which is very
Starting point is 00:19:27 exciting because for too long people have been saying, you know, it doesn't exist. It's now time to be able They believe there's another realm and they've got proof. Have they? They have. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Forensic lab in New York now believes ghosts do actually exist. Or at least that's what a group of Tennessee based paranormal investigators claim. Global paranormal services have been delving into the supernatural mystery
Starting point is 00:19:59 in their local library for every year now. And this Friday they'll be visiting again not only to do continued investigation but to unveil evidence that they say is definite proof of the afterlife. As you can imagine they're championing at the bit to
Starting point is 00:20:15 share their findings. They've been keeping it quiet and this Friday they're having quite a large unveiling of their findings. Oh yeah, a few drinks. Couple of drinks being together. But they're basically
Starting point is 00:20:33 a saying. Listen up, I've just got to have a I know, thanks everyone for coming. This is a big one obviously. I already had a couple to be honest with you, but certainly on my way. But anyway, yes, with regards to
Starting point is 00:20:49 this is it, the paranormal evidence you've all been waiting for. I know there's been years of people of poo poo, the idea of ghosts and other realms and life beyond death and such and so forth. But I knew otherwise
Starting point is 00:21:05 and it's just a matter of capturing not only the evidence but also the audience. And you're here tonight. Don't forget the canapes and get as much as you can. Some of them have come all the way from Wellington
Starting point is 00:21:21 and they've been reheated. But yeah, well without further ado, as excuse me, as I say, I've been on it since 5.30. It's a big day. It's a big day for us. Please like to unveil. What have we got? OHP? OHP?
Starting point is 00:21:37 Unveil the evidence here of ghosts and so forth. Over to you, Dave. Okay, Mike. Well, I do find that we've got some evidence. We've stolen some evidence from
Starting point is 00:21:53 New York Laboratory as well as a vet clinic. But still of laboratory, they were forensically looking into the death of multiple dogs. Three. Three dogs that had died. So three dogs. And anyway
Starting point is 00:22:09 in the process, they've developed the technology to use ultraviolet light to find ghosts whilst they were looking into the death of the dogs. There it is, folks. Stumbled across this technology. Ultraviolet. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That's how I like my violet. I don't know about you, but I'm definitely going for the ultra. One more super. Superviolet. Oh, yeah. Superviolet. Well, no, only after only after a couple more. A couple more. Take it easy, mate.
Starting point is 00:22:41 So they've shown them the picture. The guts of the story. Here's the picture. You'll see here. What do you think of that, Gary? Woo. Ah. Woo. Ah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That was a low reaction. That wasn't the actual ghost, although it did sound like it. It did sound very much, very, very much like it. You can see here is an actual ultraviolet picture. And by that I mean it actually is the color of ultraviolet.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And then a figure in the picture stands out. And this is definite confirmation that using the right techniques, which I believe as we've already specified, ultraviolet we can then
Starting point is 00:23:29 see that ghosts and such and so forth from another realm make themselves visible through back to you, Dave. Who was that guy? Who was that guy? Who's that guy?
Starting point is 00:23:47 He's the chairman. The chairman. Yes, I've been the chairman now for a year and a half, and it's got root of you, Nigel, not to know me. You have drunk too much. I know this is a big hoo-ha, this is a big day and it's a big unveiling, but please
Starting point is 00:24:03 catch if you could be seated. Dave, carry on. Right, so from here, we're going to release our information on Friday. We're going to release it. Probably on Twitter, we will tweet. We're going to tweet to start off with.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Probably we may even picture this. We'll put it on the picture. Instagram. PictureGram. We'll pictureGram this one. Instantly pictureGram it. Everybody will see this up there and they will believe in ghosts. The New York laboratory
Starting point is 00:24:35 is going to confirm it for us this Friday and then nobody will have to be scared of ghosts anymore because they will know that they do exist, but it must say little boys and girls across the country now have something proper to complain to their parents about, don't they, to not go to bed?
Starting point is 00:24:51 They do. They go, well, mum, dad, it's been proven there are ghosts and I'm scared of them so I'm not going to bloody bed. That's true, but also I think once we know, because we're scared of the unknowing, that's what we're scared of. It's not the actual thing itself, it's the unknowing quantity of the thing. Once
Starting point is 00:25:07 we actually know it exists, it's like tigers. We know they exist, we're not scared of them, unless of course there's one in the room, but we know they can be tamed or they can be understood. You can't understand something that is unknowing, you know, and that's the fear, but a lot of people
Starting point is 00:25:23 really are into, obviously those that are listening to this, into the paranormal, unless your radio is stuck on 107.7 you're trying to flick it off, but you can't and you're having to sit through this. But get this, there's a paranormal
Starting point is 00:25:39 matchmaking site which is just launched. So if you like hunting for ghosts or exploring old graveyards, but you're tired of doing it by yourself, then Spooky Date may be the place for you.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It's a dating site for people into everything, from Jack the Ripper to zombies. Spooky Date's member's idea of a romantic evening isn't a dinner in a movie, unless of course it's a horror movie, but despite popular perception, these are just normal people with not so normal interests.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Wow. It insists Spooky Date founder Tony Hart Wilden. Wow, that's amazing. Spooky Date members can browse any of eight different categories. Zombies, vampires, horror
Starting point is 00:26:27 movies, the paranormal, that's a massive category. That basically involves all of them. Unexplained mysteries. Oh, that'll be good. I'll be into that one. UFOs. Yeah, that's good. Monsters and urban exploration in search of their
Starting point is 00:26:43 perfect match. So check it out. If you're into the paranormal and you want to get a hot date with another paranormal type, it's called Spooky Date. You'll find me on there. Just look for buttons and hook up if you're into my type
Starting point is 00:26:59 of person. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I just realized you UFO do Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:15 Hi, are you What did you think, Arge? Yeah, sounds good. You like that? Is that my theme song? That's your sting, mate. That's your theme song. I like it. Thanks so much for coming back on the show.
Starting point is 00:27:31 What have you got for us this week? Well, this week I want to discuss the famous case flight Japan Airlines flight 1628. Okay. Which is it's a pretty well known case.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I mean, it's easy to find information about it, but it's one of the better cases because of the quality of the witnesses and multiple witnesses and also radar. I think I think I know this case actually and for those that didn't hear last week,
Starting point is 00:28:03 so Arge Barker although incredibly talented in his acting and his comedy also incredibly talented in his knowledge and passion for ufology, which we're really excited about, which way he's one of our good mates.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And so give us a run down, Arge. Oh, thanks. Okay. Well, let's see. They were flying a cargo flight from Paris to Narita, Japan. It was a it wasn't a passenger plane. It was a 747 but it had most I think it was, I think I read somewhere
Starting point is 00:28:35 that was filled mostly with wine. They're bringing some good wine back to Japan and they were on their way to three fuel and anchorage when the crew the three pilots noticed two two craft that were sort of shrouded in darkness
Starting point is 00:28:51 and they were they were they were sort of difficult to get a good look at them but then suddenly they saw a massive ship, what he called the mother ship Oh my god. Now, the senior captain
Starting point is 00:29:07 he was a pilot with 29 years flying experience over 10,000 hours former ex fighter pilot Hengu Herauchi described the object as being somewhat
Starting point is 00:29:23 the shape of an unshelled walnut excuse me, just a walnut in a shell. Wow. It's kind of circular and it's got a kind of ridge around it. Yeah, yeah, right. So not as flat as a traditional sort of flying saucer shape but a little bit bulky
Starting point is 00:29:39 but here's the amazing part. In his own words it was twice the size of an aircraft carrier. Wow. And they were followed for I'm sorry, I don't I don't have all the facts. I don't retain numbers very well. Yeah. Too many years on the road but
Starting point is 00:29:55 you and me both. I believe close to an hour by the by the ship and the other the other smaller ones were darting around he described it as I'll read a quote for you here I mean it's just amazing case and now you got to think about this guy
Starting point is 00:30:11 he's 29 years senior Japan Airlines pilot it's a big deal for him to come out to the U.S.A. Yeah, absolutely. Obviously throwing his career on the on the back burner there. Well, I would I would
Starting point is 00:30:27 you know there's nothing that's going to stop me if I see something like that I'm not going to go well you know that's that's my flying car I mean this is when you see something as obvious as that it has to be said how do you keep that to yourself these pilots do often get laughed out of the sky
Starting point is 00:30:43 no out of the what do they call it the pilots hangout the coffee room that's right they get laughed out because they're like yeah pilots must be the one the one profession that sees them the most
Starting point is 00:31:01 there is a culture of secrecy among pilots among especially commercial airline pilots well maybe as well military because it's flipped upon as sort of a crazy thing but there's so much to this case anyway I'm reading this quote
Starting point is 00:31:17 he described the aircraft were darting around the thing was flying as if there was no such thing as gravity it sped up then stopped then flew at our speed in our direction so that to us it appeared to be standing still wow the next instant it changed course
Starting point is 00:31:33 in other words the flying object had overcome gravity oh my god wow the reverse thrust that's in quotes caused by a bright flare for three to seven seconds when they flew right in front of the 747 he described feeling the heat
Starting point is 00:31:49 on his face they were that close wow that's insane you know and the thing you said the thing you said we used to about you know I would have reported too but in the world we live in people expect comedians to be UFOs you know
Starting point is 00:32:05 what have they done with it what have they done with their comedy party you wouldn't believe what happened to me on the way to the club tonight they don't expect the boy that cried wolf I mean this guy has a lot of respect as a pilot and then it comes out
Starting point is 00:32:21 he actually was grounded for some time and given an office job for a while after this because most airlines I think if not all commercial airlines discourage pilots
Starting point is 00:32:37 coming forward to this kind of thing there's another case when they saw UFO right at the bloody O'Hare airport in Chicago right outside the airport yeah just right yeah this is a real quick one and again anyone can look this stuff up and read more about it
Starting point is 00:32:53 this it was seen by a lot of ground crew in the United Airlines area I'm sure you've been through O'Hare it's a massive airport and it's one of United's biggest hubs several people saw it and it was again it was a circular craft
Starting point is 00:33:09 and it was just sort of loitering above there and this is where it gets almost lappable it shot up through the clouds at such a speed and it punched a circular hole in the cloud like something out of a cartoon
Starting point is 00:33:25 that's all the smoke circles this thing is on radar there's also the FAA radar clock this thing and there was a government meeting after that where they said they looked all the evidence and they said no one's ever to talk about this
Starting point is 00:33:41 it was a real hush hush thing but the senior at the FAA that's the Federal Aviation Administration John Callahan he's the division chief of accident investigations he came
Starting point is 00:33:57 forth he kept copies of the records and the data and there was also so that's all we have a lot of this information still and it's out there what the fun thing to do is you can go on YouTube and you can actually hear the transmission
Starting point is 00:34:13 between the pilots and the radar and the guys in the tower you can actually hear them saying we don't know what this thing is and I love it when you can actually hear real recording we should maybe play yeah we'll play some later
Starting point is 00:34:29 there were two more there were two more subsequent sightings within I wish I shouldn't brush up on this before I go on your show just make it up mate there were two more sightings shortly after one was from a military jet
Starting point is 00:34:45 excuse me a military radar they picked up something large shaped object on January 30th, 1987 and also another Alaskan Airlines flight and their
Starting point is 00:35:01 radar on the plane clocked it at shooting off at a speed of 18,000 miles per hour what that's ridiculous
Starting point is 00:35:17 this is on Wikipedia so it's got to be true with every sweep of their radar about one second apart the object added five miles to its distance translating to a speed of 18,000 miles per hour these things are doing I think the main point here is
Starting point is 00:35:33 you know either this is a craft that's made by another intelligent or and this would be almost as big of a cover up the government has technology that they're keeping from the public
Starting point is 00:35:49 which would change the face of the earth overnight I don't believe in the latter because I just don't see what that technology is for what the purpose of it would be for when we know the top end of the technology
Starting point is 00:36:05 is to get into outer space and things like that we would have seen this happen now they would have used it there are those that argue that they are using it and there's a secret you can go as deep as you want you can go online and you can read
Starting point is 00:36:21 about how there's Mars is already colonized and there's a secret space program and this and that but I don't buy it either because I just think it's too hard to cover up and also descriptions of craft doing these amazing things have been going on for decades
Starting point is 00:36:37 so even if we're getting close to having something you know that could stop or do a right angle turn at a thousand miles an hour which I don't believe we are anyway even if we were I don't think we had that in 1967
Starting point is 00:36:53 no not at all and that's the case I'll be talking about next time which I've already picked my next case the West Hall UFO case I like ones in multiple witnesses yeah you do you do one final thing I'll say about this one
Starting point is 00:37:09 I love the fact that with the second case you brought up with punching the hole through the cloud is that physical hole in the cloud I mean that's massive evidence that an actual object went through it so that's really big for me as well
Starting point is 00:37:25 because you get these things where it's like a weather phenomenon or something that's translucent that doesn't it's not an object and I have this idea that some of them are just huge giant living organisms
Starting point is 00:37:41 but I don't know it's a lot of questions but I think that what I termized from this case is that there was something out there and we just don't know what it was but whatever it was
Starting point is 00:37:57 it had technology that seems to surpass ours yeah absolutely especially here in New Zealand alright well thanks Arge yeah no problem guys we'll have another chat next week yeah let's forward to that alright man take it easy
Starting point is 00:38:13 cheers very much Arge Barker our regular correspondent weekly correspondent on all things uefology and obviously catching us up on all the cases that we need to know we're kicking it with the big cases
Starting point is 00:38:29 there's favourites multiple witnesses into which I think is a great level to be on because they're just more believable more than one person have seen the same thing and now it's time for cryptid buzz
Starting point is 00:38:49 alright nice little addition of Chewbacca there at the end of our cryptid buzz yeah he likes to you know call in from time to time and have his two cents worth yeah got on him thanks mate alright where you going mate
Starting point is 00:39:05 you got another film coming up haven't you mate thought you guys were shooting in England he must be on leave hiatus sounds like a disease isn't it down to the doctors what's the problem I've got hiatus
Starting point is 00:39:25 oh no seriously yep three weeks oh no no it's terminal it's terminal you've actually been kicked off your shows been cancelled you've got terminal hiatus hi hiatus hi hiatus
Starting point is 00:39:41 hi datads that's the other one that's a weird one that's a farming anyway I digest Loch Ness Monster a new picture of Nessie question mark yeah that's what I'm talking about alright there's a YouTube clip
Starting point is 00:39:57 that goes with it so there's a new are you going to play us the YouTube clip can you give us some details well there's a new clip it's doing the rounds shows something strange in Loch Ness the photographer
Starting point is 00:40:13 is Dan Sohan so I wonder maybe we should play we can play the clip but of course it is a it is an image we can find out what's on the clip if you like
Starting point is 00:40:29 okay play it to me and I'll explain to people what I'm seeing now make it come through the scenario I looked at it before and they're driving along the Loch and as most most people do they always film
Starting point is 00:40:45 the Loch as we call it when you're driving along just in case you see something just in case and what these people have done and which I've never done actually and I've been over there a couple of times and I've done the same thing filmed it as we've been driving and on
Starting point is 00:41:01 I've never gone back on my footage and looked at what I filmed and so the zoomed in had the capabilities to zoom in and just check out just scan what I've filmed in case because you know you're going to miss it by the eye the video is going to pick it up
Starting point is 00:41:17 if there's something that sticks out that's out of the ordinary and something clearly has with this chap and he's zoomed in on it so what we're seeing here is that they've been filming out their window they've been driving along they have been taking photos
Starting point is 00:41:33 or video they're looking seeing whether or not they could find anything and they do actually have I mean they've zoomed in quite a lot anything could have happened after you zoom in that much the pixels can blur and stuff but in saying that it is very much looking like
Starting point is 00:41:49 a head shaped long necked object poking out of the water at a great distance but also the convincing part if you're looking for conviction is that they've also identified by drawing a great big reds so shape around it
Starting point is 00:42:05 they've shown the shape of a shadow in the water that does look very kind of a dinosaur-y water creature-y and yeah That's how I expert analysis is that
Starting point is 00:42:21 what they've done here is they've circled or made out a shadow that goes with the neck which you know because obviously the first thing you think of is when you see something and the is that it's a bird a bird taking off birds are always generally
Starting point is 00:42:37 the culprit to anything that you think might be the neck of a a plesiosaur generally some birds taking off so you know obviously this could still be that but it's airing towards it possibly not being which makes it quite interesting
Starting point is 00:42:53 the chap here where I got this off did you get it off him he's gone into hiding no I was just going to say that oh here we go there's one comment on this webs on this
Starting point is 00:43:13 and the comment is photoshop is clearly visible here anyone use photoshop anymore I think we've moved on from that I've got to say crypto zoology proof has not been aided by the
Starting point is 00:43:29 development of photoshop technology and it being widely acceptable because everybody now just looks at any image and goes you could have made that up yeah anyway that's the news that's the cryptid buzz that is a new nessie photo out there check it out
Starting point is 00:43:45 google it check it out if you want or not because we've done it for you but also New Zealand was actually in the cryptid buzz this week we were actually it might have been last week but the weeks were very close together
Starting point is 00:44:01 but we were actually in the independent which is a huge newspaper in the UK you know the independent I'm independent myself I know independence very well that's why I'm joining the ghost paranormal dating site
Starting point is 00:44:17 because I'm very independent well good luck with that so newsflash we were in the independent I'm not myself in buttons with his new independence which his wife and four kids don't know about
Starting point is 00:44:35 by that I mean New Zealand a creature from New Zealand folklore and the independent are telling us that it really existed a Maori legend about a giant man-eating bird
Starting point is 00:44:51 has been confirmed by scientists now it's called the Tohokoi there was a huge black and white predator with a red crest and yellow green tinged wingtips
Starting point is 00:45:07 visualize that in an account given to Sir George Gray an early governor of New Zealand it was said to be named after its cry so you can imagine the cry was something like HOKUI
Starting point is 00:45:23 that's what I'm imagining that's the name you see scientists now think that the stories handed down by word of mouth over the years and depicted in rock drawings refer to Haast's eagle
Starting point is 00:45:41 a raptor that became extinct about 500 years ago Haast's eagle was discovered in swamp deposits by Sir Julius von Haast in the 1870s but it was first to be thought to be a scavenger
Starting point is 00:45:59 because its bill was similar to a vulture's but a re-examination of skeletons using modern technology including CAT scans at Canterbury Museum in Christchurch and the University of New South Wales in Australia showed it had a strong enough pelvis
Starting point is 00:46:17 to support a killing blow as it dived at speeds of up to 80 kilometres per hour do you know what this makes total sense and you know there's Maori mythology, obviously Mario the indigenous people of New Zealand they've been here for hundreds of years
Starting point is 00:46:33 there was mythology that is around the stories of bird women oh wow and bird women used to come down and swoop and steal children now of course they do predict that the Haast eagle or this bird they're talking about
Starting point is 00:46:49 has such a huge wingspan that it would have actually been plausible that it could actually take children away it says here that the bird's talons were as big as a tiger's claws and apparently it was certainly capable of swooping down and taking a child
Starting point is 00:47:05 and that's coming from the creator not the creator, the curator that just came from the creator, God God just gave us that and that's a direct quote from the creator there thanks Goddy thank you
Starting point is 00:47:21 that's from the curator of vertebrae zoology at the Canterbury Museum they had the ability to not only strike with their talons but to close the talons and put them through quite solid objects such as the pelvis
Starting point is 00:47:37 so they would close their talons basically turning them into two massive spikes or swords and then just fly straight down and stab straight into the through the pelvis it's his here design basically these things as absolute killing machines
Starting point is 00:47:53 now I tell you this and I ask you this we tell and ask at the same time it's a tell and ask situation land of the mighty birds that once were obviously we had the mower
Starting point is 00:48:09 and by the way the main prey of the Haas eagle would have been the mower that's what they say imagine that fight a flightless bird that's massive with massive legs like an emu and a massive hawk like that would be an awesome fight
Starting point is 00:48:25 that's the other thing the other Haas eagle which is the gigantic eagle that can pick up children stab massive mowers through the pelvis those two giant animals giant birds
Starting point is 00:48:41 were here they were here and they're gone but to hark back to yesteryear when that sort of shizz was happening in this old land I mean buttons is right but that
Starting point is 00:48:57 and it's no longer you know and it's sad but because we don't we have a lot of beautiful birds here and we have you know I think one native mammal which is a bat that's essentially a bird and then it's just sort of farm animals and you know deer
Starting point is 00:49:13 a few wild pigs and the cryptids of course the moose that possibly exist in Fjordland other than that you know nothing no poisonous spiders, no snakes no nothing and people would think
Starting point is 00:49:29 oh you're next to Australia you've got snakes you've got you know deadly spiders no we've got one deadly spider apparently that no one's ever seen but that's it it's called bury the deadly spider we've not seen it but apparently to think that we did have
Starting point is 00:49:45 these intense things you know especially the Haas eagle which was as I say a killing machine much like the croc for killing and you know it's lived you know what these giant eagles here massive gone
Starting point is 00:50:01 why? how? that's my question hunted probably maybe they're the hunter there's nothing there like the lion of the forest I mean they're big obviously they're big they're easy targets but I mean how are they being brought down maybe there's just no bow and arrows the Maori didn't have
Starting point is 00:50:17 bow and arrows so what were they throwing their spears sneaking up behind them I think it's just sneaking up and grabbing them and riding them they're very sneaky riding them that's what they're doing riding them now that's where Avatar got it from
Starting point is 00:50:33 right here in New Zealand that's why James Cameron's moved here because the inspiration we're full of inspiration how much would you pay Rhys Darby if somebody came to you and said there's I've got a time traveling machine and take you back and see the Haas eagle
Starting point is 00:50:49 fighting the mower see this is the thing this is why imagine that sentiment there that's what's driven people to make time travel in the future which look like UFOs and people are coming back because they're really passionate to come back
Starting point is 00:51:05 and see their forefathers these amazing animals that are extinct now come on science expeditions and they pay lots of money so if I was to invent any machine that could make me lots of money what would it be it would be a time traveling machine that looks like a UFO because then of course if you get spotted
Starting point is 00:51:21 in your UFO machine it's just a UFO it's just a UFO that's why I reckon that theory stands you know and that's what's happening money making scheme dvd review sometimes books dvd what was that sometimes books
Starting point is 00:51:41 sometimes books and what was the other thing I don't know I didn't hear it I've never reviewed a book no we did once we did once we did once we should review more books we should if only we had time to read them just review covers
Starting point is 00:51:57 covers of books and titles of dvd's ok so the dvd that I have to review today is a dvd suspiciously called cryptid brilliant well that's perfect isn't it
Starting point is 00:52:13 2008 made in 2006 and it's based in South Africa now the general premise of the movie is is that there's a whole bunch of farmers in South Africa who are just going missing getting killed gruesomely killed and they go wow is that a murderer
Starting point is 00:52:29 and then cause people start bringing back this a legend who is told of a cryptid animal who did this went around killing people and you know it was pretty full it's a very very low budget film good
Starting point is 00:52:45 not many people have viewed this the director who sounds like he's got a very memorable name I was like oh what has he done I can't quite remember what he's done Spielberg? No almost it was something that sounded very similar to that James Dryden
Starting point is 00:53:01 I'm like James Dryden he sounds familiar here's the writer I was like what else has he done IMDB'd him looked it up a movie called cryptid well that's a big one then he went back to being a nurse
Starting point is 00:53:17 at the local hospital but it was fun while he made it anyone can do a movie exactly there's top build cast there's Laurie Petty she plays Dr. Lean Karlin and just IDB'd her now
Starting point is 00:53:33 also known for Free Willy well that's a big movie well that's amazing I know a league of their own and Tank Girl which is one of my favourite movies of all time do you know those are good flecks so she's in there which is really good
Starting point is 00:53:49 Sandra Tellies is also in there she was in cryptid she should be on the telly drop dead gorgeous and dear devil all movies that you wouldn't have heard of so anyway so the general the general gist of the film is that these scientists
Starting point is 00:54:05 are called over to South Africa come over here you scientists we've got some murders come over here we've got murders come and have a look crazy shit happening we're gonna call the police no we'll call scientists you guys might know more about it
Starting point is 00:54:21 I don't know where that guy's from but where is he from? he's from New Zealand but he spent a bit of time in the UK but he overstayed and so he got booted out he doesn't feel yeah so he went to Africa and then he went to South Africa because he saw the North Africa
Starting point is 00:54:37 but he's always had this fascination with scientists and yelling so he's put two and two together and he's made it into this film well I gotta say we are come over here you scientists and they came over
Starting point is 00:54:53 well they did come over they looked at the murders I won't ruin it because you don't ruin it in reviews do you no because I think we're all gonna see this we are you're all gonna see this it's really good so this international team of scientists come over
Starting point is 00:55:09 to an area which is considered by some to be the cradle of civilization oh boomtastic tell me about it we're in boomtown right now folks couple of minutes left in the show we're talking about the cradle of civilization Africa this is how we roll
Starting point is 00:55:25 I'm gonna play the trailer to this movie because you'll just get an idea of some of the action and some of the things Reese is gonna kindly read out some of the some of the little titles that show up but obviously you can't hear
Starting point is 00:55:41 as they come up he's gonna kindly do that for us and we're just trying to hit play here here we go people around here do they think it's real three eyewitnesses footprints probably DNA
Starting point is 00:55:57 a scientific expedition an unsold mystery a legend that will not die I can hardly hear it's better wow big gunshot there some running through some scrub
Starting point is 00:56:55 dude with a torch a silhouette of something someone being plummeted screaming wow what is that oh another gunshot I gotta say it doesn't look too bad
Starting point is 00:57:17 it's not too bad but for something of such a low budget the trailer certainly had a lot of action in it and the other thing is they never gave away no now I have to ask is there actually a cryptid in it
Starting point is 00:57:33 there is it's not spoiling it because I mean if there wasn't it would seriously not be worth it but they obviously there's something killing a lot of people they don't know what it is scientists come over and they
Starting point is 00:57:49 the scientists very luckily have guns they capture it maybe I'm not going to ruin it there's one to watch folks cryptid so what do you give it out of 5 bigfoot see I didn't realise that lady was actually also on tank girl so that just went up 2 points
Starting point is 00:58:05 so it's now at 3 3 bigfoot out of 5 looks to me like a possible winner if there's nothing else on that night watch cryptid I guarantee it will change your life
Starting point is 00:58:21 is there any clothing that comes off there's a little bit of clothing that comes off not boom boom well we've finally reached Boomtown here we are thank you for listening
Starting point is 00:58:37 the cryptid factor I think it's probably episode 5 about 5 this particular season good news is we're hosting on the podcast world we are releasing our first season because on podcast as well
Starting point is 00:58:53 which is our is it include the George is that George of BFM it's George FM I think back in the George days back in the George and then possibly into BFM I'm not sure but these are our new ones
Starting point is 00:59:09 Feria will be back next week we'll have the threesome it's always slightly better connected why? I don't know what it is about him he's a journalist he's in the titles and you're not Buttons one day I'm going to make those bloody titles
Starting point is 00:59:25 I'm going to just remake them are you the guy that's actually making him not here and he's supposed to be are you telling him to go and do other things I've killed him see you next week

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